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reminder
to
all
the
Commission
members
to
say
your
name
when
you
are
either
making
a
motion
or
making
a
second
and
also
when
you're
voting
we're
going
to
go
down
the
roster
so
that
and
and
you're
gonna
focus
at
that
time.
The
only
time
you
need
to
unmute
yourself
is
when
you're
about
to
speak
and
Lynn
I
was
told
that
it's
difficult
to
hear
you
on
the
on
line.
So
we
can
hear
you,
but
your
voice
is
not
as
loud
as
it
needs
to
be
for
those
watching
online.
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B
F
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B
C
C
Madame,
chair
I
was
going
to
offer
that
we
don't
have.
We
don't
have
the
work
plan
up
on
a
screen
and
if
folks
have
their
copies
of
the
work
plan,
they
can
work
from
those.
But
if,
if
everybody
doesn't
have
their
their
work
plans
in
front
of
them,
then
it
might
be
something
to
hold
on
to
until
the
next.
Until
a
meeting
we're.
B
So
we're
going
to
that
item
pronounced
so,
and
the
next
item
is
to
discuss
our
Community
Engagement
subcommittee
planning
meeting
in
our
last
meeting.
We
talked
about
creating
a
subcommittee
and
I
believe
it
was
Brandon
Kathryn,
d'alene
and
myself.
Who
is
going
to
be
on
that
to
talk
about
the
monument
and
acts,
we'll
start
the
plan
about
that
and
reaching
out
to
our
community.
So
we
have
not
had
a
chance,
so
we're
gonna
put
that
on
the
table
and
hopefully.
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C
Good
afternoon,
everyone
Kimberly
Archie,
the
director
of
office
of
equity
and
inclusion
for
the
city
of
Asheville
I.
Don't
have
a
whole
lot
to
share
with
you
today
whether
there
folks
were
able
to
make
it
to
the
call
today
with
a
virtual,
we
haven't
met
since
March
and,
as
you
all
know,
Lots
has
gone
on
since
that
time,
and
the
the
Commission
has
been
named
in
a
number
of
things
or
attached
to
a
number
of
things.
C
Since
then,
as
far
as
the
work
that
the
city
he
and
the
county
are
doing,
which
I
just
wanted
to,
let
you
know
that
we
did
conclude
or
eeling
Rachel
thing
that
that
we
had
earlier
in
the
year
came
to
Lowe's.
We
have
a
father,
we've
had
a
number
burned,
I
feel
like
we
learned
to
ensure
better
community
engagement.
We
heard
from
folks
and
just
as
a
reminder,
we
asked
the
eight
organizations
that
worked
with
us
on
those
racial
healing
grants.
We
asked
them
two
questions,
the
okay.
We
asked
them
two
questions.
C
One
question
was:
what
does
equity
look
like?
What's
your
vision
for
equity
in
the
city
of
Asheville,
and
the
second
question
was:
how
should
your
city
government
be
involved
in
racial
healing,
and
so
we
took
the
voices
of
the
folks
that
were
a
part
of
that
that
mini
grant
process
and
put
it
into
a
report?
I
have
an
available
full.
It's
going
to
be
posted
on
our
on
our
web
page
on
the
city's
website
and
I
can
also
share
it
with
all
of
you.
C
C
Yep,
so
I
will
introduce
our
first,
our
second
speaker,
I'm,
going
to
approach
I'm
going
to
not
protest.
Sorry
I'm,
going
to
present
about
the
african-american
heritage,
Commission's
connection
to
the
Vance
monument
task
force
and
then
you'll
hear
from
Ben
woody
from
the
development
services
department.
He
has
a
request
for
the
african-american
Heritage
Commission
to
play
a
role
in
the
street.
Naming
these
two
items
came
from
there
as
a
result
of
the
protest
demands
that
have
happened
since
George,
Floyd's
murder,
the
there
was
a
coalition.
C
C
But
the
city
wanted
to
definitely
communicate
that
that
that
there
are
things
that
we
know
that
we
can
work
on
within
that
time
frame,
and
there
are
things
that
we
can
begin
to
work
on
that
are
longer-term
solutions.
So
in
though,
in
the
vein
of
those
those
demands,
one
was
around
the
Vance
monument
and
another
one
was
around
street
names,
and
so,
as
we
go
into
the
presentations,
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
the
resolutions
and
how
they
connect.
C
B
C
So,
at
the
end
of
this
presentation
on
how
the
rest
of
the
Commission
and
so
I'm
gonna
just
go
over
the
application
and
appointment
plan
for
the
joint
Vance
monument
task
force,
I'll
talk
about
the
recommended
scope
and
expectations
that
have
been
approved
by
the
Commission,
the
County
Commission
and
the
City
Council,
and
also
talk.
Give
you
a
little
bit
of
information
about
the
staffing
details.
How
we
plan
on
staffing
the
task
force
and
then,
lastly,
make
the
request
so
on
June,
9th
and
June
16th.
The
count.
C
City
Council
and
Buncombe
County
Board
of
Commissioners
respectively,
approved
a
resolution
to
remove
two
Confederate
statues
located
at
the
Buncombe
County
Courthouse
impact
Square
Park,
as
well
as
establish
a
jointly
appointed
task
force
to
recommend
actions
regarding
the
removal
or
repurposing
of
the
Vance
monument
and
to
honor
the
local
history
of
african-americans.
The
task
force
is
to
consist
of
up
to
12
members
appointed
in
equal
numbers
by
the
two
governing
boards.
C
This
task
force
is
to
gather
citizen
input,
particularly
and
especially
from
those
most
impacted
by
the
monuments
and
participate
in
public
dialogue
at
the
end
of
the
task
force
they're.
To
present
the
governing
boards
a
final
report
of
recommendations,
and
that
is
to
happen
within
three
months
of
the
appointment,
the
completion
of
the
appointment
of
all
members.
C
This
gives
you
an
idea
of
the
plan,
the
timeline
that
Buncombe
County
put
together.
They
open
their
applications
on
June
23rd.
They
closed
on
July
7th
folks
were
able
to
apply
online
as
well
as
download
a
paper
application
and
submit
that
the
board
is
now
in
the
phase
where
they're
reviewing
and
rating
applications.
They
also
plan
to
hold
interviews
at
their
July
21st
meeting
and
then
the
six
appointees
who
reside
outside
the
city
of
Asheville
city
limits
will
be
announced
at
their
August
4th
Commission
meeting
the
city
of
Asheville
has
an
aligned
process.
C
The
applications
for
city
of
Asheville
residents
opened
on
July
29th.
They
closed
tomorrow
that
July
10th
at
5:00
p.m.
City
Council
will
review
the
application
beginning
the
15th
of
this
month,
going
to
the
27
and
6
appointees,
who
reside
inside
city
at
the
cities
of
city
limits,
will
be
announced
at
the
City
Council's
July
28th
meeting.
C
Just
to
give
you
some
idea
of
what
the
task
force
is
to
do
and
the
expectations
as
I
already
said,
the
scope
that
was
outlined
in
the
rest
in
the
resolution
is
around
recommendations
for
removing
or
repurposing
the
Vance
monument,
also
to
identify
and
recommend
african-americans
to
honor
the
local
history
of
Asheville
and
Buncombe
County.
The
additions
that
were
made
to
their
expectations
and
to
the
scope
included
adding
fiscal
implementations
for
those
final
recommendations.
C
Initially,
the
expectations
were
for
them
to
meet
within
the
first
two
weeks
of
August
that
will
need
to
be
adjusted
because
the
county
commissioners
are
making
their
decision
their
final
decision
on
August
4th.
So
it
may
add
another
week
to
this
expectation.
However,
once
they
start
meeting,
they'll
have
a
minimum
of
12
weeks
or
90
days
to
complete
this
first
phase
of
their
work,
which
is
the
recommendations
along
with
the
price
tag
and
identifying
african-americans
local
African
Americans
to
honor
we're
expecting
80
percent
attendance.
C
We
asked
folks
just
to
anticipate
a
meeting
per
week
and
participate
in
planning,
gathering
and
input
of
evaluation
of
the
facts
and
alternatives
and
come
up
with
consensus
on
a
final
report.
Also
the
group
is,
or
the
task
force
is,
to
connect
with
other
boards
and
commissions.
This
commission,
the
Human
Relations
Commission
of
Asheville,
the
historic
Resources
Commission
and
the
public
art
Commission.
C
This
just
delineates,
who
are
the
representatives
that
are
are
the
representative
departments.
I
should
say
that
are
on
the
city
of
Asheville
team,
as
well
as
the
Buncombe
County
team,
and
we
also
have
the
expectation
that
a
city
manager
and
the
county
manager
will
identify
the
staff
who
layeth
task
force,
as
well
as
support.
That
supports,
will
provide,
as
this
liaisons
to
the
task
force,
not
limiting
to
providing
communications
and
resource
to
support
contracting.
C
With
an
independent
facilitator
and
providing
access
to
public
data
information
as
well
as
legal
guidance,
so
the
request
that's
being
made
is
for
the
african-american
here
Commission
to
discuss
it,
decide
how
you
would
like
to
connect
with
the
task
force,
especially
since
previously
the
african-american
Heritage
Commission
was
asked
for
for
its.
You
know,
opinion
and
recommendations
regarding
the
fence
monument
and
wanting
to
ensure
that
there
is
a
strong
connection
and
that
you
all
get
to
decide
or
offer.
What
that
connection
looks
like.
C
C
C
Okay,
Atlanta,
it's
hard
to
hear
you
again
so
so
I,
that's
my
presentation,
I'd
like
to
leave
it
up
to
the
to
the
Commission
to
decide
how
they
would
like
to
connect
as
a
body
to
this
task
force
that
some
a
time
limited
term
limited
body
around
the
the
Vance
monument
and,
if
you're
interested
in
holding
that
discussion
until
you
hear
from
Ben
woody,
since
he
has
a
request
of
this
body
as
well.
I
think
that
might
be
helpful.
C
Okay,
no
problem
I
was
just
saying
that
I
would
leave
it
up
to
you
to
lead
the
discussion
on
and
decision-making
around
the
role
that
the
connection
that
the
african-american
Heritage
Commission
would
like
to
have
with
the
task
force
as
well.
I
said
you,
you
might
want
to
wait
until
Benwood.
He
makes
his
presentation
because
he's
also
making
a
request
of
this.
This
commission,
as
well.
C
G
Thank
you
so
I,
like
Kimberly,
brings
up
the
presentation.
I'll
just
kind
of
get
started
a
little
bit.
My
name
is
Ben
woody
I
am
the
development
services
director
here
for
the
city
of
Asheville
and
you're,
probably
wondering
why
Development
Services
is
providing
a
presentation
on
the
street
name,
change
initiative
and
just
to
give
some
context,
so
my
department
actually
is
responsible
for
addressing
and
assigning
street
names.
G
Actually
we
don't
usually
pick
the
street
names,
but
whenever
a
development
occurs
and
somebody
builds
a
subdivision
or
anything
like
that,
my
office
will
then
take
the
street
name.
You
make
sure
there's
not
a
duplicate
name
where
it
doesn't
already.
It
exists
and
then
make
sure
it's
addressed
properly,
so
we
kind
of
manage
the
street
names
and
that
whole
process.
So
that's
why
I'm
gonna
try
to
share
some
background
information
or
just
some
information
about
the
street
naming
process
kind
of
what
the
initiative
is,
and
you
may
are
with
that.
G
Then,
of
course,
is
Kimberly
said:
ask
for
that's
the
aah,
see
what
role
or
what
support
you
may
want
to
provide
in
this
this
process,
so
Kimberly
so
go
to
the
next
slide.
So
we
give
a
little
background
information
on
just
the
initiative
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
current
policies.
So
how
do
we
actually
change
the
street
name
in
Asheville
there's?
That
is,
it
seems
like
it's
simple,
but
it
surprisingly
has
a
lot
of
challenges
that
go
along
with
it.
G
So
we'll
talk
about
that
a
little
bit
just
to
make
sure
the
Commission
kind
of
understands
what
it
takes
to
actually
change
the
street
name
and
then.
Finally,
of
course,
my
ask
of
you
as
a
commission
to
perhaps
play
a
role
or
a
leadership
role
in
this
process,
and
then
you
know
we
can
talk
about
what
net
next
steps
will
look
like
if
that's
something
the
Commission
wants
to
do
so
next
slide.
Kimberly.
G
Okay,
so
in
actually
Kimberly
covered
some
of
this
already,
which
is
helpful,
but
as
you're
aware,
the
there's,
a
black
actual
demands
website,
which
includes
a
list
of
demands
that
they
have
brought
forward
to
the
city
and
to
the
county
and
really
to
the
community
to
what
the
city
did
in
response
to
that
is
the
city
developed
what
we're
calling
a
30
60
90
day
action
plan?
So
that's
really.
G
It
in
red,
I'm
gonna
read
it
for
those
that
don't
have
to
be
able
to
see
this,
but
one
of
the
demands
reads
as
follows:
we
demand
the
streets
named
after
former
slave
owners
also
be
replaced
with
the
names
of
historic,
local
black
leaders,
so
that
that's
kind
of
the
task
that
we
were
provided
as
city
staff
was.
How
do
we
address
that
specific
demand?
If
you
can
do
the
next
slide,
Kimberly.
G
G
Kourt's
we're
not
going
to
click
on
the
narratives,
but
one
of
the
things
that
we
did
initially
was
try
to
develop
a
vision,
narrative
and
again
that
should
be
linked
from
the
staff
report
you
have,
but
that
was
just
an
attempt
about
the
staff
they
kind
of
kind
of
described,
I,
guess
the
impact
that
the
street
names
have
on
the
community
and
the
importance
of
creating
spaces
that
are
comfortable
people
that
reflect
our
values.
G
G
You
can
link
to
that
and
see,
and
I
will
tell
you,
we've
done
some
research
on
this,
and
there
are
probably
I
mean,
quite
literally
hundreds
of
street
names
in
the
city
of
Asheville
that
are
either
associated
with
a
former
slave
owner
or
even
associated
with
families
that
have
connections
or
ties
fantasy,
Confederacy,
anything
similar
to
that.
So,
but
you
know
I,
think
a
lot
of
that
work
is
to
be
done
by
the
community,
and
so
what
we've
done?
G
If
you
look
at
the
inventory,
we've
identified,
seven
I
think
pretty
mostly
obvious,
but
seven
streets
I
think
that
really
are
well-known
streets
that
are
connected
with
probably
what
I
would
say
as
well
an
old
slave
owner
names,
and
so
we
kind
of
got
that
list
started
again.
You
can
look
at
that
and
see
some
of
those
the
street
I'm
going
to
show
you
a
map
of
that
in
a
second
and
so
really
I
think
what
the
staffs
role
would
be
in
the
street.
Naming
initiative
is
to
helping
community-based
group
in
the
community.
G
Develop
a
framework
around
this,
you
provide
any
research,
that's
needed,
help
click
data
whatever
we
need
to
do
basically
work
with
the
group
to
co.design
and
community
engagement
process
and
build
the
information
that
the
community
needs
to
make
good
decisions
around
this.
The
next
slide
can
really.
G
So
this
is
I
wish
some.
Hopefully
you
can
see
this
map
and,
of
course,
some
of
you
were
on
the
phone
and
what
I
did
with
people.
What
we
do
is
those
seven
map,
there's
seven
streets,
that
we
kind
of
identified
as
having
named
associated
with
former
slave
owners
they're
only
snap
and
you
can
see
they're
big
streets
like
Patton,
in
big
streets
like
Merriman
and
those
have
a
red
label.
That's
because
they're
actually
NCDOT
maintained
streets
and
then,
of
course,
there
are
other
smaller
streets
that
have
become
a
blue
label.
G
Those
are
streets
that
are
maintained
by
the
city
of
Ashland.
Now
I'll
tell
you
why
that's
important
in
a
second,
but
you
can
see
this
is
just
seven
streets,
and
this
is
just
focus
on
the
downtown
area,
but
there's
a
lot
of
different
than
unique
streets
in
the
city
that
can
be
considered
for
renaming.
Is
it
in
Kimberly?
If
you
can
go
to
the
next
slide,
I'm,
not
sure,
let's
see
if
I
try
to
add
a
last
minute
there,
it
is
I'm
glad
it's
in
here.
So
I
tried
to
zoom
in
on
the
map.
G
A
little
bit
I
took
wood,
Finch
Street.
This
is
just
an
example
to
kind
of
talk
about
what
what
a
street
renaming
process
would
look
like
and
kind
of
what
that
means.
So
we've
been,
is
an
example
of
the
street,
that's
associated
with
a
former
slave
owner
there's.
Actually,
this
looks
difficult,
but
actual
there's
multiple
streets
that
have
the
name,
wood
Finn,
so
I
just
took
two
that
are
close
together,
a
wood
Finch
tree
that
is
a
city
of
actual
maintained
Street.
G
Then
a
woods
been
placed
that
is
the
NCDOT
maintained
street,
so,
for
example,
on
wood,
Finch
Street.
If
that
were
a
street
that
were
being
to
be
renamed,
it
would
affect
seven
businesses,
2020
residential
units,
three
government
nonprofit
buildings
would
then
place.
On
the
other
hand,
which
ironically,
is
a
much
shorter
street,
but
actually
has
a
hundred
and
four
business
addresses
only
in
one
government
address
so
I
just
want
to.
G
You
illustrate
that
the
length
of
the
street
matters,
but
also
there's
a
lot
of
businesses
and
and
residents
that
are
almost
rates
that
have
current
addresses
associated
with
those
streets.
If
you
can
go
to
the
next
slide,
Kimberly
and
that
kind
of
that
kind
of
leads
into
what
are
some
of
the
challenges?
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
all
the
current
policy
which
could
be
challenging
of
itself.
So
basically,
if
there's
a
street
name
that
the
community
decides
or
anybody
decides
that
they
would
like
to
rename
there's
two
ways
that
that
can
happen.
G
So
there's
two
ways
to
rename
the
street.
What
is
City
Council
has
the
authority
to
do
that
and
then
the
other
way
to
rename
a
street
is.
There
is
a
petition
process.
The
petition
requests
both
those
are
can't
be
difficult
processes
and
both
those
require
a
public
hearing.
So
once
once
you
know,
city
council
decides
to
change
a
street
name
or
if
there's
a
I'll,
tell
you
more
about
the
petition
in
a
second.
G
If
there's
a
petition
request
once
that
successful
it
goes
for
a
public
hearing
which
is
you
know,
the
City
Council
would
take
comments
from
the
community
and
then
make
a
decision
if
you're
going
to
the
next
slide
can
well
I'll
talk
about
the
petition
request.
The
petition
request
is
probably
a
difficult
request:
that's
a
difficult
way
to
change
a
street
name
because
it's
not
it's
not
terribly
accessible
to
the
community.
G
So
the
petition,
the
community-based
petition
to
change
the
name
of
the
street
is
requires
the
signature
and
really
basically
more
than
50%
of
the
owners
and
the
residents
of
that
street.
So,
for
example,
if
you
live
in
Asheville,
but
you
don't
own
property
or
you
don't
live
on
that
Street
would
thing.
For
example,
then
you
don't
have
the
ability
to
petition
for
a
street
name
change,
so
access
to
that
petition
process
is
actually
pretty
narrow
than
the
city
of
Asheville
and
that's
what
makes
a
petition
process
difficult
because,
again,
not
everybody
has
access
to
it.
G
G
You
know
it,
but
that's
a
lot
of
probably
negative
news
or
I'm,
giving
you
things
that
make
this
difficult,
but
there
are
success
stories
too,
and
a
good
example
is
in
1984
more
than
four
hundred
persons
along
what
was
in
pond
street,
signed
the
petition
and
successful
successfully
how
the
city
county
we'll
change
the
name
of
that
street
Martin
Martin
Luther
King,
jr.
drop.
G
G
And
again,
I'm
just
sharing
some
of
the
technical
background
information.
So
we
all
kind
of
understand
what
really
takes
to
have
a
street
name
change
occur
some
of
the
challenges.
These
are
just
general
challenges
that
that
exist
with
a
street
name.
Change
now
and
they'll
probably
exist
as
challenges.
If
this
commission
and
the
community
or
any
other
body
decides
to
move
forward
to
try
to
meet
the
objectives
of
that
actual
demand,
so
some
of
the
challenges
are
it's
costly.
G
It
costs
money
to
advertise
to
do
all
the
work
it
takes
to
actually
change
the
name
of
the
street,
but
then
also
there's
financial
calls
to
the
effective
property
owners,
particularly
businesses.
I
gave
an
example
of
would
fin
every
one
of
those
businesses
would
have
one
change,
rather
than
they
have
to
probably
change
all
their
marketing
information
and
contact
information.
So
there
isn't
a
cost
even
for
residence,
she's
going
to
change
on
your
credit
card
bills
and
utility
bills,
and
things
like
that.
Additionally,
the
you
know,
public
hearings
are
necessary
and
a
good
thing.
G
The
public
hearings
are
always
challenging
back
to
my
earlier
point:
roads
that
are
maintained
by
the
state.
They
actually
require
participation
from
the
state,
so
that
would
just
be
another
agency
that
you've
got
to
have
involved
in
the
name
change
process
and
then,
finally,
what
if
you
can
get
through
all
those
things
but
may
actually
be
the
most
difficult
piece
of
this.
G
G
So
really
the
next.
The
next
thing
I
wanted
to
talk
about
was
was
basically
a
request
to
this
commission
so
and
I'm
gonna.
Look
at
my
notes.
I
can't
see
this
the
correct
slide
on
the
screen,
but
basically
what
work?
What
we're
asking
of
the
african-american
Heritage
Commission
today
and
the
staff
group
is,
is
number
one.
What
would
you
as
a
commission
be
interested
in
playing
a
leadership
role
in
this
process
and
chime
trying
to
meet
the
the
actual,
the
black
actual
demand
of
addressing
these
street
names?
So
what
that?
What
that
would
entail?
G
What
that
would
involve
is
working
with
staff.
We
would
be
your
support
and
providing
resources,
but
developing
more
background
information
on
this
initiative-
probably
more
importantly,
trying
to
co.design
an
engagement
process.
So
what
does
it
look
like
and
how
we
engage
the
community
around
this
important
issue,
beginning
to
identify
streets
for
potential
renaming,
as
well
as
identifying
historic
black
leaders
for
potential
replacement
names.
G
So
those
are
some
of
the
items
that
I
think
that
commission
would
have
to
help
work
with
the
staff
and
the
community
to
work
through
and
additionally,
as
the
slides
continue
to
load.
Another
piece
of
this
is
with
that
information
in
hand.
Then
there
has
to
be
a
public
engagement
process
that
again,
the
Commission
would
be
the
lead
on
and
the
staff
would
support
and
what
that
public
engagement
process
would
do
is
educate.
G
The
community
I
think
that's
important
and
then
empower
the
community
to
try
to
make
what
I
believe
would
be
a
transformative
decision
around
some
of
these
street
names
that
exist
at
Asheville
and,
of
course,
once
that
community
engagement
process
is
done,
the
research
is
done.
The
background
information
is
pulled
together,
then
the
Commission,
with
staff
support
with
developed
community
based
recommendations
that
would
go
to
the
city
manager
and
the
City
Council
for
their
consideration
in
that
region.
That
really
concludes
my
presentation
today.
G
That's
a
whole
lot
of
information
that
I
just
felt
for
this
commission
and
at
this
point
Kimberly
or
myself
can
answer
any
questions
you
have
and
again.
I
would
certainly
welcome
the
opportunity
to
work
with
this
Commission
on
this
important
project.
If
that's
something
that
you
feel
is
appropriate.
Thank
you.
D
Yes,
I
do
have
some
questions
and
it's
gonna
be
a
lot
of
questions
a
few
parts
it
is
first,
do
we
have
access
to
the
30-60-90
day
plan
first
on
the
way
of
access
to
that,
and
did
the
community
have
any
input
in
the
30
60
90
degree
a
second?
The
third
thing
is:
why
are?
Why
is
the
the
statute,
removal
and
the
banning
of
the
streets?
D
Why
are
those
items
that
are
being
addressed
and
all
all
both
of
those
items
seem
like
long,
tedious
processes
and
it's
like
busy
work
uh-huh
with,
and
you
just
really,
you
just
really
share,
no
hope
of
us
really
getting
it
done
when
you
talk
about
residents
on
with
these
wooden
streets
and
Mary
streets,
unless
the
only
property
on
those
streets,
but
anyway,
with
that
being
said,
why?
Why
aren't
we
talking
about
bigger
points
so
so
whose
decision
wasn't
to
come
to
bring
these
up?
D
These
points
to
the
african-american
Heritage
Commission
was
I
can
understand.
You
know
what
African
American
Commission
that's
cool,
but
is
this
being
brought
to
any
other
Commission's
or
any
other
group
of
people
that
the
city?
That's
that's
under
the
city's
commissions
and
boards.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody
understands
what's
going
on.
Is
anybody
else
hearing
about
this
and
are
there
any
other
points
we
can
start
talking
about
from
the
black
asks
the
demands
list,
my
reparations
and
redistribution
of
wealth?
On
those
points,
are
we
not
talking
about
those?
G
C
I
apologize
I
had
to
go
out.
I
had
to
go
out
for
a
moment,
because
my
connection
was
bad.
I
I
know,
I,
heard
a
part
of
what
mr.
Hayes
said
and
based
on
a
conversation
that
I
was
in
yesterday,
I
kind
of
know
what
he
means
between
small
potatoes
and
what
the
big
potatoes
are.
The
big
potatoes
are
the
economic
pieces
of
the
demands
right.
Mr.
Hayes,
yes,.
D
You're
right,
and
so
the
first
one
I
really
want
to
know,
is:
do
we
have
access
to
this
30
60
90
day
plan
that
has
been
implemented
and
did
the
community
have
any
input?
Is
that
can
we
see
that
and
if,
if
these
are,
if
the
are
y'all
presenting
to
any
other
Commission's,
these
opportunities
to
I,
don't
know
change
the
names
of
the
streets
and
remove
statues
and
be
a
part
of
those
committees,
because
I
just
think
that
that's
I
think
that
we
have
been
women
left
of
the
planning
of
all
of
these
things.
D
First
of
all,
and
now
we
have
enough,
you
know
we're
giving
us
opportunities
to
be
a
part
of
this
naming
of
the
streets
and
it
just
seemed
like
there's
no
hope
or
it's
a
long,
tedious
process
that
we
as
a
community
just
do
not
have
time
for
so.
My
question
is:
why
are
we
talking
about
the
bigger
piece?
Is
the
redistribution
of
wealth
and
reparations,
and
what
that
looks
like
for
a
school.
C
You
are,
we
can
make
the
30-60-90
day
plan
public.
It
was
presented
to
City
Council
at
the
beginning
of
where
in
July
now
so
at
the
first
meeting
in
June,
and
so
those
slides
are
available
and
I
can
share
them
share
them
with
this
group
in
particular.
They
are
on
the
city's
website,
though,
on
the
city
council
page,
but
I
can
make
sure
that
we
send
the
slide
deck
that
has
the
30-60-90
day
plan
the
items,
the
exact
items
of
the
30-60-90
day
plan
onto
to
this
commission.
C
So
that's
one
piece:
the
plate
is
being
presented
to
a
number
of
focus
groups
to
get
feedback
from
those
groups
about
the
about
the
plan
right.
So
not
much
has
been
implemented
on
the
plan
itself,
but
the
plan
has
been
in
front
of
community
members,
some
community
members
and
the
more
community
members
over
the
next
month
to
get
feedback
on
exactly
what
you're
talking
about
mr.
page.
Well,
is
it
that
the
community
wants
to
see
us
do
or
what's
the
community's
reaction
to
this
and
are
there
gaps
are
bites?
C
C
We're
working
on
getting
into
it
the
reason
that
the
the
earth
Monument
observed.
The
reason
that
the
street
names
is
being
brought
to
this
group
is
because
the
purpose
of
the
Commission
lines
with
the
street
naming
piece
and
the
idea
of
wanting
to
recognize
and
celebrate
local
leaders
and
African
American
leaders.
So
this
group
is
the
first
thought
resident
or
stop
for
working
to
work
on
that
particular
demand
of
changing
street
names.
I
understand
what
you're
saying
about
it
being
a
tedious
process,
and
we
want
to
work
with
you
all.
C
That's
that's
the
ask
that
Ben
is
bringing
is
to
work
with
the
Commission
to
come
up
with
the
street
names
that
that
community
members
who
are
offensive
and
or
traumatizing
and
then
work
to
come
up
with
the
names
of
folks
that
are
identified,
the
african-american
local
leaders
that
are
identified
to
replace
those
names
and
to
work
with
the
larger
community
to
get
more
community
a
voice.
So
this
really
is
our
ask
for
our
ask
a
staff
to
work
with
this
commission
to
create
an
engagement
plan
and
implement
that
plan
for
the
purposes
of
that
street.
C
C
Don't
think
that
they've
been
necessarily
brought
out
for
for
folks
to
really
understand
what
that
what
those
plans
aren't
there
were
things
that
were
already
in
the
works.
I
know
for
a
fact
that
we've
been
working,
the
office
of
equity
inclusion
has
been
working
with
the
business
inclusion
office
and
we're
doing
things
to
support
more
black
business
owners
in
Asheville
and
and
that's
all
I
can
think
of
right
now.
C
G
I'll
say
real
one
quick
thing,
then
I
think
Kathy,
mister
hazeh
I
tried
I
tried
to
be.
You
know.
I
saw
this
I
guess
to
your
point
about.
It
seems
like
it's
almost
impossible.
I
just
wanted
to
be
honest
and
transparent
in
that
it's
not
easy
process,
but
I
do
want
to
say
you
know
the
optimist
by
nature,
but
I
do
want
to
say
that
you
know
City
Council
has
the
ability
to
change
your
street
name
without
a
petition
process
so
that
that
body
can
can
do
it
through
through
through
there.
G
You
know,
you
know,
because
they
own
the
City,
Council
and
then
also
I
would
say
just
think
big,
and
if
the
petition
policy
is
problematic,
then
we
can
recommend
to
change
the
policy.
Let's
change
the
problem
so
again,
I
apologize
for
making
it
feel
so
difficult,
but
I
also
wanted
to
be
honest
about
that,
but
also
say
that
you
know
we
can't
do
this
and
there's
changes.
We
can
make
around
that.
So
I
appreciate
your
question.
Yeah.
D
Babies,
don't
need
to
apologize,
maybe
I'm,
just
being
this
really
and
that's
the
way
expect:
that's
what
we
won't.
We
won't
transparency.
That's
why
I'm
asking
these
questions
because
of
their
plans.
That's
already
happening
and
we've
been
the
African
American
Heritage
Commission.
We
are
Commission
on
the
city.
I.
Just
think
that
there's
a
lot
more
that
we
should
really
know
what's
going
on,
so
that
we
represent
our
communities
and
the
African
American
Aires
Commission,
you
know,
is
made
up
of
a
lot
of
you
know.
People
of
color,
then
I
think
I.
D
Just
think
this
is
I.
Think
it's
important
that
we're
all
that
everybody's
transparent,
that
the
city
is
transparent,
so
that
when
we
go
back
to
our
communities
we
can
really
tell
them
what's
going
on
all
right.
So
that's
what
you
know
the
big
things
and
the
small
things
in
you
know
just
to
know
that
the
City
Council
can
actually
make
that
vote
to
change
that.
It's
something
that
you
know,
I'm
glad.
You
said
that
I'm
glad
you.
Let
us
know
that
cuz
now
we
have
another
way
that
we
can
move
trying
to
make
that
happen.
B
E
Ma'am,
sorry
about
that,
this
is
kind
of
following
up
on
Michaels,
and
this
is
in
no
way
disrespectful
to
anyone.
But
from
what
I
gathered
from
all
of
that
is,
a
group
of
people
came
up
with
an
idea,
a
job
placed
it
on
the
a
ahc
said
that
there
would
be
plenty
of
support
given
to
the
ahc.
But
yet
after
all,
the
information
is
taken
in
and
community
is
met
and
talked
about.
J
So
I'll
answer
you
mr.
Oliver
I
think
we
we
check
in
with
councilmembers
today,
and
they
know
that
this
meeting
is
happening
and
they
know
about
this
process.
So
they're
supportive
of
this
group
working
to
come
up
with
recommendations,
I
would
I
would
be
surprised
if
they
didn't
support
the
recommendations
as
they're
supporting
the
black
Asheville
demands.
So
I
don't
think
it's
for
naught.
J
It
is
ultimately
up
to
Council
and
we're
understanding
now
that
the
framework
of
government
that
we're
working
on
working
under
is
broken,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
things
that
need
to
be
improved
and
we're
trying
to
do
that
incrementally,
which
I
think
is
frustrating
in
and
of
itself.
It's
frustrating
for
us
as
well,
because
we
know
it
doesn't
work
for
all
the
members
of
our
community,
so
I
I
am
definitely
more
optimistic.
The
council
is
asking
this
group
to
say
help
us
prioritize,
which
of
these
streets
need
to
be
changed.
J
Help
us
make
recommendations
for
that,
and
once
we
get
your
support,
we
would
be
able
to
move
forward
with
it
so
that
that
is.
That
is
what
I
was
saying.
One
I
wanted
to
go
back
when
I
heard
Mr
Hayes
ask
some
questions
about
the
the
30-60-90
day
plan
and
it
got
really
really
confusing
because
there
were
two
there
were
police
ones,
and
then
there
were
city
administration,
ones
and
the
city
ones.
The
ones
that
came
from
our
city
manager,
Deborah
Campbell,
came
straight
from
the
Asheville.
J
Black
demands
those
were
exactly
taking
taken
from
the
request
from
that
group
of
people,
so
we
are
trying
to
respond
to
exactly
we
should
when
Ben
showed
you
that
slide.
It
was
exactly
exactly
the
slide
that
came
from
them.
So
when
he
said
who
came
up
with
that
30-60-90
day,
it
came
from
that
group
and
so
we're
trying
to
be
responsive
now.
J
I
think
you
all
probably
know
that
there
is
the
request
to
have
a
resolution
on
the
meeting
on
Tuesday
about
reparations,
and
so
there
is
much
bigger
work
to
be
done
and
it
will
come
along
we're
just
trying
to
right
now
like
chunk
it
out,
so
that
we
can
get
some
of
the
work
done.
So
there
I
hear
what
you're,
saying
and
and
I
don't
fully
understand
it.
That's
why
we
need
to
have
conversations
like
this
and
be
able
to
be
transparent.
J
We
don't
fully
know
and
understand,
what's
most
important,
we're
we're
doing
the
things
on
the
list
as
we
get
them
and
can't
do
them
like
the
man's
monument
and
the
other
monuments
and
then
the
street
names,
and
then
we
will
continue
down
and
work
on
the
wealth
building
and
they're
in
the
reparations.
So
I
I
fully
expect
to
see
those
things
move
forward.
This
is
just
one
of
the
steps
and
moving
us
along
this
path
of
totally
changing
how
we
work.
E
J
So
I
don't
know
that
there's
one
person
who
can
say
or
that
there's
an
elected
group
that
says:
okay,
we're
done
now
because
you
all
know
for
400
years
it's
been
going
the
other
direction,
so
I
think
it's
I,
don't
think
we'll
be
done.
I
think
we've
got
so
much
work
to
do
that.
It
will
simply
be
trying
to
tackle
the
next
thing
and
the
next
thing
and
the
next
thing,
but
you
know
you're
you're,
working
with
a
group
of
people,
including
myself,
who
has
32
years
of
local
government.
D
But
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
understand
that's
one
of
the
points
that
I'm
making
I'm
saying
what
I'm
saying,
because
there
are
decisions
being
made
I
know
about
the
30-60-90.
They
planned
that
the
black
ass
with
demands
I'm
talking
about
the
36,
not
a
plan
at
the
government
that
our
city
government
and
our
police
department
have
I
also
know
where
access
to
death
I
know
a
lot
less
ask
for
demands.
D
So
my
thing
is:
if
we
already
know,
we've
been
hurting
for
a
long
time
and
if
you
know
that
we've
been
hurting
for
this
long
and
we
have
an
opportunity
to
really
make
some
things
happen.
Uh-Huh
I,
I,
just
don't
want
a
lot
of
time
being
spent
on
renaming
streets
and
there's
other
routes.
We
can
go.
That's
just
my
opinion.
I
think
we
have
enough
powerful
voices
on
african-american
Heritage
Commission
enough
connection
with
community
enough.
We
have
enough
power
within
this
this
commission
to
really
do
some
powerful
work
and
I.
D
Think
I
work
should
be
substantial,
not
just
and
I
know
we're
talking
about.
You
know
neighborhood
streets
like
that's
the
start
of
the
list,
but
at
the
very
start
of
the
list
I
know
you
talked
about
reparations
of
wealth
building.
First,
so
I
mean
I.
You
already
answered
that.
That's
what
I
make
sure
we
put
that
out.
There
then
I
put
that
out
there
I
speak
for
myself.
Thank.
J
J
J
But
if
you
will
help,
if
we
will
help
you,
if
you
will
tell
us
what
you
need
and
what
you
want
to
see
happen
with
these
street
names
and
if
you
all
say
hey
we,
you
know
we
don't
want
to
spend
the
time
we
get.
That
I
mean
that's
what
we
we
got
to
keep
it
real
right,
I
mean
if
you
say
we
don't
think
this
is
worth
our
time
and
we
want
to
work
on
different
things.
Then
we'll
hear
that
voice
as
well
and
that
that
would
be
good.
B
B
F
This
is
Aaron,
hey,
no
better
ones.
Well,
I
agree
as
well.
You
know,
I
think
think
we
have
bigger
things
to
do
in
a
smaller
time
too.
You
know,
as
far
as
it
focused
I
would
I
don't
mind.
You
know,
put
my
input
as
far
as
the
monuments
in
and
assign
the
street
names,
but
we
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
and
it
just
seemed
like
it's
a
lot
of
busy
work
and
the
way
things
have
been
done
and
our
government
is
they.
F
B
And
we
certainly
have
the
option
to
opt
out.
If
that's
what
we
feel
as
a
group
that
it
sounds
like
this
far
I
wanna
hear
from
Miss
Catherine
and
antonette
and
Brandon
as
well,
and
miss
Doran.
If
she's
still
on
the
line
about
your
thoughts
about
our
the
role
that
the
african-american
Heritage
Commission
would
want
to
play.
And
if
we
have
that
time
commitment
to
commit
to
these
things
or
do
we
want
to
focus
on?
As
Michael
said,
the
bigger
things
miss
Katherine,
I.
H
My
thought
is,
and
I
agree
with
Michael.
My
thought
is,
though:
I
would
rather
have
some
input
in
everything,
even
if
it's
the
small
things
so
to
that
extent,
I
believe
that
there
are
enough
of
us
on
the
know.
One
person
has
to
get
stuck
with
a
whole
bunch
of
busy
work.
So
having
said
that,
if
others
don't
renaming
I'll
be
willing
to
participate
in
that
process,
I
don't
know.
If
that,
then
would
be.
H
You
know
enough
where
it
to
be
the
Commission
involvement,
if
it's
only
one
or
two
people,
but
I
will
say,
as
someone
I
used
to
live
on
Pine
Street
at
144,
Pine
Street
in
the
first,
when
my
dad
passion
was
146,
so
I
remember
the
process
of
changing
the
name
to
Martin
Luther
King.
It
was
definitely
a
hard
process,
but
it
also
came
as
a
result
of
redlining
and
a
whole
bunch
of
other
stuff.
So
probably
the
easiest
route
would
be
to
go
with
a
presentation.
H
I
D
D
B
B
I
B
D
We
can
be
a
Volvo
to
hit
it
up
and
in
what
capacity
we
could
be
involved,
I
mean
we
have
some
people
like
this
cast
was
already
doing
some
things,
a
lot
of
us
already
connected
with
black
hats
for
the
men.
So
we
know
what's
going
on
with
that,
but
I
just
don't
think
what
we
do
should
be
because,
as
because
black
Asheville
demands
it's
like
the
priority
for
the
city,
I
think
our
priority
should
be
what
our
Barnes
here
is
and
I
know
either
of
the
city
and
it's
for
our
people.
J
E
Yes,
yes,
ma'am,
because
I'm
sure
that
some
of
the
community
knows
names
of
some
people
that
they
might
not
not
just
be
willing
to
talk
to
other
people
like
through
our
relationships
with
community.
There
are
stories
and
people
that
are
not
really
known
of
in
mainstream
Asheville
amongst
historic,
blacks.
A
long
time
a
lot
of
blacks
have
been
kind
of
pushed
to
the
side
and
their
names
not
remembered
so
I
think
it
would
be.
It
would
be
awesome
if,
if
we
could
get
the
list
together,
but
that's
probably
bad
as
far
that's
probably
about
it,.
G
Mr.
Oliver
I
think
that
would
be
helpful
and
I
just
I.
Just
want
to
say
is
thank
you
to
this
commission
for
your
discussion.
I
appreciate
your
time
and
they
not
all
so
whatever.
Whatever
capacity
you
think's
appropriately
blew
it.
Welcome
that
as
a
staff
group
so,
and
certainly
don't
want
to
put
any
busy
work
on
this
commission
and
I
would
expect
the
staff
to
do
the
busy
work.
So
whatever
you
feel
like
is
I'm
good
with
that
I
appreciate
your
time
and
just
would.
K
I
C
C
B
B
B
B
B
B
Render
any
thoughts
about
that
I
don't
have
any
thoughts.
I
have
applied
I'm,
just
full
disclosure
I'm
on
this
side
for
County
for
the
task
force.
I
did
apply
to
be
on
the
task
force.
However
I'm,
not
certain
that
I
want
to
do
that.
I
can't
do
both
I'm
aware
that
I
don't
know
if
I'd
rather
stay
on
this
last
time,
because
I
wonder
about
the
time.
Commitment
and
I
also
wonder
a
little
bit
about
the
safety.
B
B
H
I
C
C
Is
on
the
city's
website,
so
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
if
there's
a
different
decision
that
you
all
want
to
make
at
this
meeting
or
wait
until
the
next
meeting
to
decide
how
you
want
to
maybe
advise
the
City
Council
on
that
list
of
demands,
and
then
the
only
other
thing
madam
chair
was:
we
have
public
comments
and
announcements
that
I'm
not
sure
that
we
have
any
public
comment
there
before
this
call.
Before
we
began
there
were
no.
There
was
no
prior
to
the
meeting.