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A
You
scroll
up
just
a
little
bit
or
whoever's
driving
this,
so
I
think
you
probably
did
that
and
I
think
that
was
the
right
move
for
massing,
but
man
that's
not
right
that
that's
a
lot
of
forehead
on
that
guy
some!
I
don't
know
what
to
do
there,
but
it
something
needs
to
happen
on
that
that
big
element,
I
like
that.
I
like
the
move,
but
that's
a
there's
just
so
much
forehead.
I
don't
know
maybe.
C
A
It
it's
like
it,
it's
like
you
designed
it
and
then
you
just
like
well,
I
know
it
needs
to
be
taller,
so
here
we
go
and
then
I'm
I'm
struggling
a
little
bit
because
so
so,
like
you've
got
clearly
to
find
pieces
on,
you
know,
building
up
and
then
even
wrapping
around,
but
then,
like
the
material
changes,
I
can't
figure
out
why
material
changes
and
what
and
it's
like
it's
a
there's,
this
corner
brick
piece
and
then
it
becomes
the
balcony
and
then
it's
the
the
what
you
know
then
it
becomes
the
ephis
and
then,
above
that,
it's
the
like
that,
whatever
that
is
cement,
fiber
or
metal
panel,
those
don't
I
don't
understand,
what's
going
on
very
much
with
with
with
those
I
don't
know,
if
anybody
else
is
can
can
see
that
the
way
I'm
seeing
it,
but
I
just
still
feel
like
there's
some
material
changes
that
are,
that
feel
a
little
arbitrary
and
I
don't
know
why
they
happen
and
when
they
happen,
and
you
know
why.
A
Why
does
the
brick
extend
up
and
then
it
becomes
metal
panel
at
that
line
versus?
I
don't
know
that
that
p,
that
piece
is,
is
puzzling
to
me
in
in
this
in
this
elevation
and
then
there's
the.
I
think
it
does
the
same
thing
on
the.
It
makes
more
sense
to
me
in
a
way
flip
to
the
3d
perspective,
northwest
drc
that
one
so
like
that
piece
makes
more
sense
to
me
because
it
stops.
But
then
it's
got
this
weird
little
thing.
A
Well,
you
can't
see
my
marker,
where
it
wraps
around.
I
don't
know,
there's
just
something
odd
about
some
of
the
material
change
when,
when
materials
change,
I
feel
like
it's
it's
it's.
I
still
want
to
read
separate
buildings.
Maybe.
C
D
I
agree
with
that
ryan
about
the
material
change.
I
think
that's
what
bothers
me
about
it
that
I
couldn't
put
my
finger
on
one
comment
I'm
gonna
make.
It
may
just
be
me
this
brick
piece
that
goes
all
the
way
up.
I
kind
of
want
the
windows
in
it
not
to
be
asymmetrical.
I
kind
of
if
you're
going
to
nod
to
a
traditional
thing.
I
kind
of
want
those
windows
to
feel
a
little
more
traditional.
I
think
for
me.
D
B
We
looked
at
different
types
of
windows
and
I
I
anticipate
that
in
the
brick
veneer
that
will
be
a
different
style
window
than
say
in
the
metal
panel
facade,
but
I
don't
know
that
we've
gone
into
too
much
investigation
strategies.
You
know
options
of
what
those
could
be
but
I'll.
I
will
definitely
write
that
down.
B
E
E
E
F
This
one's
got
this
is
this,
is
one
of
the
ones
that's
sort
of
the
reverse
of
what
we
had
before,
where
it's
it's
already
more
impervious
than
probably
what
we're
going
to
end
up
with
or
pretty
close.
C
E
Reason
I
bring
it
up
eric.
Is
that
our
conversations
in
the
project
before
I
think
directly
apply
to
this,
and
I'm
just
bringing
this
up
on
each
project
that
I
think
it
applies
to
and
I'm
not
saying
anything
they
don't
but
curious.
If
the
other
members
have
comments,
but
why
not
have
a
very
substantial
green
roof
on
this
project?
E
Given
heat
island
effects
in
this
urban
location,
this
water
from
this
building
goes
directly
into
a
storm
sewer
that
then
directly
goes
to
the
most
polluted
waterway
in
all
of
buncombe
county,
and
that
is
reed
creek,
and
my
question
is
why
why
not
have
it
on
this
building.
B
And
stephen
lee
kate
did
145
biltmore,
so
she
may
be
able
to
give
you
some
more
insight
onto
that.
We've
worked
with
living
roofs
on
a
lot
of
green
green
roofs
in
town
garage
apartments,
145
biltmore,
this
building
12
south
lexington,
was
one
of
the
original
ones,
so
we
will
definitely
revisit
the
idea
for
sure,
and
if
we
can
get
that
into
the
owner's
budget,
we
would
be
happy
to
to
do
that,
but
we'll
definitely
need
to
verify
those
those
instances.
E
And
I
think
that,
in
addition
to
all
of
our,
we
all
work
with
clients
as
well
addition
to
owner
budget,
you
know
we
have
a
very
special
job.
We
have
to
do
on
this
committee
right
now
and
we've
got
to
feel
comfortable
about
what's
moving
forward,
especially
with
hotels
like
this,
even
though
this
is
somewhat
mixed
use,
but
I
think
it's
extremely
important
to
re
iterate,
the
necessity
of
well
for
for
one
the
approval
of
this
group,
but
also
how
dramatically
what
the
dramatic
impact
might
be
to
public
opinion
with
this
project.
E
If
you
had
a
functional
green
roof
on
it,
that's
my
only
comment.
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
kate,
it
sounds
like
y'all
worked
on
145,
so
you
all
might
be
able
to.
You
may
be
able
to
help
answer
some
questions
on
this
as
well.
Thank
you.
C
Yeah
I'd
love
to,
and
yes,
the
145
biltmore
project,
and
I
want
to
take
this
opportunity
to
just
distinguish
between.
We
talk
about
green
roofs
and
we
all
think
of
the
same
thing
typically,
but
there's
a
lot
of
different
ways
to
build
them
and
design
them,
and
so
the
difference
between
the
145
biltmore
project.
That
was
what
we
call
a
utility
green
roof.
It's
up
there
not
for
anyone
to
look
at
it's,
not
an
amenity.
C
It's
not
decoration,
it's
strictly
up
there
to
help
with
storm
water
and
all
the
other
co
benefits
that
I
talk
about
too
much
so
that
was,
you
know.
We
use
an
overseeding
a
plug
system,
so
it's
a
lot
more
affordable
than
like
a
pre-vegetated
or
tray
system.
You
don't
put
a
copper
gutter
on
every
single
project.
You
select
that
out.
So
it's
the
same
thing
when
we
think
about
green
infrastructure
and
and
green
roof.
C
So
I
think
that
there
is
an
opportunity
here
and-
and
we
were
so
thrilled
about
the
145
biltmore
project
we
came
in
at
the
end
I
mean
I
think
we
did.
We
consulted
a
little
bit
on
the
design,
but
we
mostly
built
it-
is
that
we're
doing
this
everywhere
about
asheville
we're
seeing
this.
The
reason
that
all
these
other
municipalities
are
are
incentivizing,
green
roofs
and
and
mandating
them
in
some
ways,
isn't
because
they
love
them.
It's
because
it
makes
economic
sense
for
their
cities
in
terms
of
infrastructure.
C
It
makes
environmental
sense
so
just
to
say
that
we
should
start
thinking
about
these
as
true
building
systems
and
infrastructure,
and
if
we
want
to
make
them
accessible
and
an
amenity,
we
can
do
that
too,
but
but
to
to
stephen
lee's
point.
You
know
the
stormwater
impacts
on
this
could
be
tremendous.
C
The
the
garage
apartments,
green
roof,
what
6
200
square
feet
of
green
roof
that
has
a
100
volume
and
peak
flow
reduction
for
every
small
storm,
so
zero
water
is
coming
off
that
roof,
we're
looking
at
volume,
reductions
up
to
87
compared
to
conventional
roof.
That's
a
lot
of
water
and
just
to
evapotranspiration
alone,
and
this
is
specific
to
garage
apartments.
So
I
want
to
brag
on
this
a
little
bit,
especially
because
eric's
here
is
that
you
know
these
are
true
numbers.
These
aren't
just
hypotheses.
C
We
ran
storm
water
calculations,
so
we're
looking
at
almost
120,
000
gallons
of
storm
water
that
don't
enter
the
public
storm
drain
and
enter
our
our
streams
just
through
evapotranspiration
alone.
So
these
are
significant
numbers
and
we
need
to
start
looking
at
this
and
and
taking
this
a
little
bit
more
seriously
as
opposed
to
let's
throw
a
green
roof
up
on
here.
It
might
be
nice
to
look
at.
Let's
really
start
thinking
of
these
things
as
systems.
B
And
just
to
let
all
the
members
know
that
all
of
these
projects-
these
are
you
know,
mha-
marks
peter
albury's
sort
of
projects
too,
so
it
is.
It
is
important
to
us
as
well
to
be
honest
with
you,
so.
E
D
Thanks
because.
G
Thank
you.
I
I'm
gonna
turn
it
back
to
the
architecture
a
little
bit.
I
absolutely
agree.
I
think
it's
a
great
point
on
the
on
the
green
roof
discussion.
That's
especially
this
type
of
project
is
it's
a
great
opportunity,
but
I'm
gonna
turn
it
back
to
the
to
the
architecture
a
little
bit.
You
mentioned
that
you
know
you
had
done
a
lot
of
work
and
I
have
to
be
honest.
I
just
don't
see
it.
There's
a!
G
I
see
the
changes
along
the
base,
but
other
than
that.
The
only
thing
that
I
you
know
I'm
looking
at
the
the
previous
submission
right
next
to
the
current
one
and
the
only
the
only
real
difference
I
see
is
you
know,
there's
some
some
banding
in
the
brickwork
and
then
that
that
lower
portion
of
the
front
facade.
G
G
I
think
it's
a
shame,
but
you
know
if
you
know,
if
there's
no
way
around,
that,
there's
no
way
around
it
and
to
to
brian's
point
about
you
know
like
the
jigsaw
nature
of
this.
I
think
that
to
me
the
word
is
frenetic,
it's
a
little
frenetic
and
I
think
you
would
be.
I
think
you
would
benefit
from
setting
some
rules
as
to
you
know
how
the
materials
come
together
where
the
materials
come
together.
You
know,
there's
a
there's,
a
there's,
a
really
interesting.
G
You
know
potential
here
in
the
in
the
in
the
parts
and
pieces
of
this
building
that
can
really
help
you
to
set
rules,
and
you
know
make
the
make
the
design
better.
G
A
couple
of
couple
of
things
like,
for
example,
along
that
front
that
that
base.
You
know
it's
you,
you
have
a
you,
have
a
small
threshold,
I'm
you
know
moving.
You
know
left
to
right.
You
have
a
small
threshold
into
the
retail
and
you've
got
the
retail
window
bumped
out.
Then
you
got
the
big
entrance
into
the
garage.
Then
you
have
a
deep
recess
for
the
entry
and
then
it
goes
back
out.
You
know.
Could
all
of
that
move
back
to
at
least
you
know
like
take
the
take
the
the
line.
G
You
know
the
living
space
line
and
and
normalize
that
across
that,
so
that
you
know
at
least
at
least
the
sense
of
that
gaping.
You
know,
as
far
as
I'm
concerned
gaping
wound,
that
is
the
entry
to
a
parking
garage.
At
least
that
gets
a
little
bit
of
you
know
blends
in
a
little
bit
better
by
having
more
depth
more.
You
know
more
spatial
depth
along
that
front.
G
At
that
whole
front
and
then
going
up,
you
know
to
floors
three
and
four
there's
a
two
balconies
there
is
that
is
there
an
opportunity
there
and
I
know
I-
I
looked
at
the
floor
plan
and
I
know
how
that
unit
is
laid
out.
So
I
know
that
you're
you're
trying
to
come
into
the
living
room
and
then
you've
got
the
dining
room
and
and
and
the
kitchen
beyond,
which
is
the
natural
way
to
enter
an
apartment
or
or
a
room.
G
You
know
a
space
whatever,
but
is
there
an
opportunity
there
to
flip
that?
So
you
can
take
that
you
know
that
balcony
and
actually
push
it
against
the
vertical
element
to
allow
that
vertical
element
to
get.
You
know
a
little
bit
more
expression
and
I
don't
know
what
that
you
know
what
happens
when
you
look
at
the
other
side,
the
ones
who
do
that,
but
that
I
think
you
know
that's.
Those
are
my
comments.
G
I
think
the
the
biggest
thing
is
that
I
think
I
think
it
needs
some
rules,
get
a
system
of
rules
in
place
and
and
let
that
because
it
has
a
lot
of
opportunity
for
that,
you
know,
like
I
said
lots
of
you
know
lots
of
recesses.
Lots
of
you
know
lots
of
planes
and
you're
moving
in
and
out.
So
you
can
really
clarify
that
if
you,
if
you
apply
a
set
of
rules
and
that's
all-
I
have.
D
Okay,
if
anybody
else,
if
nobody
else,
has
any
comments,
then
we
can
move
on
to
the
next
agenda
item,
which
is
future
discussion.
I
Hey
good
morning,
everyone
or
afternoon
this
is
brian
goldman
attorney
in
asheville.
I
spoke
a
few
meetings
ago
when
this
was
again
up
for
consideration
in
informal
review.
I
just
first
want
to
thank
the
committee
for
letting
us
speak
at
this
time.
I
do
represent
the
folks
that
own
property
at
52
broadway,
so
just
up
the
street
just
a
little
bit
south
of
72
broadway
and
thanks
to
architects
for
modifying
that
main
entrance
off
of
broadway
street
from
the
back
alley.
I
Again,
I
was
I
I
just
want
to
reiterate
that
that
we
don't
think
that
the
access
up
the
alley
is
a
appropriate
nor
legal
in
the
sense
of
rights
that
the
hotel
sits
on
a
couple
of
lots.
Three
in
particular
lots,
seven
and
or
eight
and
nine,
and
then
a
big
lot
lot
number
three:
the
the
access,
the
deeded
access
that
lot
three
has
not
only
off
of
broadway
is
through
a
ten
foot
alley
behind
the
masonic
temple,
and
so
I
do
appreciate
that
they
are
changing.
I
The
architects
have
indicated
that
they're
changing
that
alleyway
access
to
just
a
service
entrance.
I
still
don't
think
that
they've
got
the
legal
right
to
do
it
and,
moreover-
and
more
importantly,
is
that's
not
a
city
maintained
public
alley
and
or
street.
There
is
no
power
bill
funding
that
the
city
gets
to
maintain
that
street
the
power
bill,
funds
money
to
municipalities
so
that
they
can
maintain
repair
and
construct
streets.
I
It
also
is
for
the
benefit
of
traffic
control,
and
so
without
the
funding
there
really
will
be
able
to
do
in
that
alleyway
and,
of
course,
traffic
control
is
going
to
be
important
when
you're
exiting
and
entering
that
site,
and
so
again
I
just
I
wanna
thank
the
architects
for
that.
I
I'm
happy
to
talk
to
them
further,
but
I
would
hate
to
but
my
clients
don't
have
any
opposition
to
the
development,
but
do
have
an
opposition
to
the
use
of
of
anybody
through
that
alley
to
access
the
hotel,
and
so,
as
that
is
part
of
a
design
element.
I
I
thought
it
would
be
appropriate
to
comment
about
that
at
this
time,
and
so
that's
that's
where
my
comments
are,
is
basically
the
legal
hurdles
that
the
developer
would
have
to
go
through
to
gain
access
through
that
alleyway.
Thank
you.
D
D
Okay,
then,
do
I
yes,
ricardo.
G
Do
we
have
any
information
or
any
movement
or
any
plan
on
updates
to
the
design
guidelines?
I
know
we've
talked
about.
We've
talked
about
that
stuff
in
in
downtown
commission.
We
talked
about
it
here
as
well,
how
they're
outdated-
and
you
know,
I've
you
know,
reading
through
some
of
them,
I'm
I'm
seeing
things
that
are
actually
in
in
conflict
with
some
of
the
things
that
we're
talking
about
these
days,
for
example,
the
up
lighting.
G
H
Yeah
and
as
that
I
don't
have
an
update
at
this
time.
I
know
it
remains
a
priority
to
update
both
the
downtown
design
guidelines
and
the
riverfront
district
design
guidelines.
I
can,
I
can
check
with
our
director
and
get
back
to
you
about
what
might
be
a
feasible
time
frame,
but
you
know
obviously
it's
something
that
everyone
agrees
is
a
priority.
Then
we
can
start,
I
think,
making
some
progress
on
it.
H
It
might
might
might
take
a
while
so
might
as
well
get
started
sooner
than
later
on
it
right,
but
definitely
understand
that
as
a
priority
for
the
community
to
start
working
on
that.
E
I
know
brian
has
as
well
he's
not
here,
but
he
has
through.
H
Okay
yeah,
I
spent
around
that
invite
for
the
open
house
and
really
really
know
exactly
what's
going
on.
C
H
Great,
thank
you
yeah
it
that
noon
to
130s
they're.
I
guess
we're
calling
it
a
kickoff
meeting
for
for
this
kind
of
publishing
or
the
pilot
aspect
of
it.
I
guess
they've
had
some
meetings
before,
but.
B
D
All
right,
and
if
nobody
else
has
anything,
then
we
can
adjourn
and
thanks
for
hanging
out
for
this
long
meeting
today.
You
guys
see
you
next
time,
thanks.