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From YouTube: African American Heritage Commission – April 13, 2023
Description
Regular meeting of the City of Asheville African American Heritage Commission.
Access the agenda and other meeting materials at the City of Asheville website: https://www.ashevillenc.gov/department/city-clerk/boards-and-commissions/african-american-heritage-commission/
Participate before and during the meeting on our public engagement hub: https://publicinput.com/U4703
A
C
C
The
commission
is
to
advise
the
city,
council
and
County
Commissioners
about
the
preservation,
interpretation
and
promotion
of
the
African-American
arts,
history
and
culture.
All
committee
members
and
staff
are
participating.
Virtually
we
are
streaming
live
on
our
virtual
engagement
hub,
which
is
accessible
through
the
virtual
engagement
Hub
link
on
the
front
page
of
the
city
website,
and
also
link
to
the
committee
page.
C
855-925-2801
and
enter
in
meeting
code
9409
for
those
of
you
who
plan
to
speak
during
our
live
public
comment.
Today,
you
will
need
to
hit
star
three
to
be
put
in
the
speaker.
Queue
I
will
now
go
through
and
introduce
all
committee
members
and
staff
who
are
participating
virtually
for
our
committee
members.
Please
make
sure
to
mute
your
microphone
if
you're,
not
speaking
when
you
have
a
question
or
would
like
to
speak,
click
raise
hand
and
when
recognized
by
the
chair,
unmute
your
microphone.
C
B
C
Okay
and
I'm
Aaron
hi,
everyone,
staff
and
guests
attendant.
We
have
Brenda
Mills,
director
of
equity
and
inclusion
city
of
Asheville,
good.
C
E
C
C
Please
state
your
name
each
time
you
come
in
just
a
reminder
that
the
public
is
listening
on
the
phone
and
this
keeps
them
up
to
date
on
the
order
of
the
meeting
and
who
is
coming
or
speaking
so.
First
on
the
list,
we
have
approval
of
the
minutes.
We're
gonna
move
on
to
number
two.
We
will
have
quorum
so
we'll
come
back
to
that.
C
We're
going
to
do.
Staff
updates,
City
staff
liaison
Brenda
Mills.
B
So
just
a
few
updates:
the
city
is
in
the
process
of
the
budget
for
fy24
the
next
budget
work
session.
The
fact
that
this
past
one
was
this
Tuesday,
the
fourth
I'm.
B
Sorry,
this
Tuesday,
the
11th,
the
next
one
will
be
April
28th
and
you
can
see
all
of
those
meetings
on
YouTube
or
go
to
the
city
council
webpage
to
catch
all
of
those
I'd
like
to
keep
you
in
in
the
loop
on
that
and
then
the
other
thing
is
the
next
reparations
commission
meeting
is
Monday
April
24th.
That
is
an
off
week
because
there's
an
event
at
the
Civic
Center.
We
normally
meet
the
third
Monday
of
the
month
at
six
o'clock,
but
it
will
be
April
24th
at
6.
A
Hello,
everyone
I
just
want
to
give
a
quick
update
about
the
the
Buncombe
County
creative,
equal,
Equity,
mural
projects.
We
just
announced
our
three
artists
and
they
are
Gabrielle
Gabriel,
ingos,
Leslie,
renati,
lanko
and
Jared
Wheatley.
A
They
will
be
providing
art
for
three
different
projects:
three
different
walls
in
Buncombe
County,
the
submission
there
were
21
submissions
and
we
were
able
to
have
three
selected
and
it
will
be
a
reflection
of
the
people
in
a
sense
of
place
in
Buncombe,
reflection
of
racial
Equity,
reconciliation
and
restoration,
positive
contributions
to
committee,
appearance,
enhancement
and
or
character.
Vendor
experience
and
capacity
to
implement
project
and
project
implementations.
A
C
Thank
you
so
unfinished
business.
Well,
the
pack
Square
visioning
project
we're
supposed
to
have
be
releasing
a
draft
on
the
17th
of
April,
but
being
that
the
plan
is
so
big
we're
we're
targeting
May
15th.
So
that's
that's
where
we
are
right
now,
so
you
know
it's.
C
D
D
What
we
decided
to
do
is
you
have
a
current
Communications
and
public
engagement
plan
and
we
really
focus
on
the
five
goals
that
you
all
came
up
with
on
your
work
plan
so
goal
one.
We
had
awareness,
preserving
history,
I'm
going
to
share
the
screen,
so
I
can
show
you
the
document
hey
window.
Let's
see
okay
right
here,
so
we'll
continue.
Can
you
see
it.
B
D
D
Thank
you.
So
what
we
did
was
we
wanted
to
attach
a
task
to
each
goal.
So
we
came
up
with
in
discussion.
I
know
we
don't
have
a
quorum
today
for
approval
for
us
to
move
on,
but
it
was
nice
to
get
some
great
ideas
on
paper.
So
the
first
one
was
go
number
one
awareness
so
help
they
would
love
to
help
reparation
short
support.
The
African-American
Heritage
commission
we'll
be
having
a
boards
and
commission
fairs
we're
going
to
have
three
and
the
this
commission
would
be
a
part
of
the
fair.
D
Our
first
one
would
be
May
the
18th
and
that's
going
to
be
at
the
senior
Opportunity
Center
from
four
to
six
May,
the
20th
in
big
Ivy
and
then
we're
gonna
have
one
in
June
or
July
to
support
the
Emma
Community.
It
will
be
support
our
brown
and
black
folks.
That's
there.
The
event
is
going
to
be
in
Spanish
and
I'm
excited
about
that.
D
We'll
have
information
about
the
commission
at
hola
Carolina
on
June,
the
10th
we'll
be
there.
We
decided
that
we
wanted
to
do
some
talking
points.
How
did
we
get
here?
What's
the
mission
describe
the
goals
and
current
activities
of
this
commission
we'll
have
African-American
Heritage
Grant
review
teams
in
the
future?
That's
one
of
the
goals
that
we
want
to
get
to
a
point
where
we
can
offer
grants
to
our
community
to
support
the
Arts
in
this
community
and
preserving
history,
go
to
is
preserving
history
and
some
of
the
tasks.
D
Aaron
was
a
part
of
the
why
my
archives
project
that
will
continue
through
the
fall
with
special
collections
with
Buncombe
County
Pat,
Square
library,
and
it
was
fantastic.
So
it
happens
that
the
wine
mod
gave
us
photos
and
we
got
to
look
through
the
photos
and
a
lot
of
photos
were
about
Goon
Bays
across
the
years,
and
then
we
found
this
other
photo
that
really
had
a
picture
of
the
urban
renewal
committee
that
was
here
in
Asheville
and
made
us
those
decisions.
It
was
just
such
a
rich
history.
D
We
had
a
lot
of
great
conversation.
How
do
we
preserve
this
and
be
honest
and
be
transparent
when
we
give
our
information
to
our
community,
so
we're
going
to
continue
to
do
this
each
month?
I
think
the
next
one
will
be
in
June
the
last
week
of
June.
We
want
to
continue
to
invite
our
commission
members,
the
wine
pie.
The
county
is
seated
to
be
a
part
of
that
process.
D
It's
really
going
to
be
a
beautiful
process,
so
we
talked
about
still
having
that
conversation
about
preserving
the
pool
and
the
space
right
at
Walton.
That's
that's
one
of
the
goals
of
this
commission.
We
wanted
to
rekindle
the
connection
with
UNCA
because
we
recognize
they
have
a
lot
of
great
about
historical
history,
about
Asheville
at
the
at
their
Library
photographic
items
at
the
Asha
airport
and
the
Chamber.
D
Wouldn't
it
be
beautiful
when
people
come
to
Asheville
and
see
our
African-American
history,
when
people
come
in
here
and
start
having
those
conversations
not
just
a
book
that
they
can
pull,
we
want
to
look
at
the
shallow
and
Riverside
Cemetery
or
pot
plots
and
repairs
in
upkeep
right,
that's
important.
So
this
group
wanted
to
do
like
a
walk
through
in
these
areas
and
see
what
needs
to
change
and
look
at
the
repairs.
D
We
want
to
develop
a
special
spot
and
a
special
collections
that
anything
and
everything
this
commission
does
will
be
in
that
library
right,
so
people
have
easy
access
to
it
throughout
the
years.
Your
kids,
your
grandkids,
your
great
grandkids
they'll,
have
all
that
information,
so
that
means
go
to
and
then
we
have
a
create
a
process
ongoing
documentation
right.
So
we
have
this
beautiful,
Palm
car
and
we've
been
giving
it
out.
We've
been
getting
out
of
many
many
places.
D
I
gave
it
out
today
at
a
conference,
the
women's,
the
Western
women's
small
business
conference,
and
they
have
a
lot
of
questions
about
the
commission.
So
I
was
excited
about
that
and
also
trying
information
to
reparations,
keeping
that
connection
to
it.
We
are
going
to
have
a
video,
so
I
just
need
a
date
and
kind
of
a
walk
around
in
Asheville
and
Buncombe
County
and
talk
about
the
history
and
what
it
means
to
the
commission
members
reach
out
to
Winston-Salem
about
their
African-American
Harris
commission.
What
do
they
do?
What's
their
Community
engagement
process?
D
Who
are
they
connecting
to
right?
So
then
we
have
goal
number
four
established
relationships
right,
because
we
definitely
need
to
do
that.
Establish
relationship
with
our
continued
employees,
external
internal
or
Buncombe
County
in
the
city
of
Asheville.
We
want
to
do
local
communities
like
our
neighborhoods,
our
community-based
organizations,
Faith
leaders,
everything
we
have
a
lot
of
things
on
our
list,
the
associations
to
be
present
and
talk
about
how
this
Great
Commission
can
be
and
where
we
want
to
go
in
the
future
right,
because
we
want
this
to
last
forever
homework.
D
Downers
Rivers,
Arts
District,
going
out
there,
some
beautiful
artists
here
right,
all
right,
so
people
of
color.
How
can
we
like
highlight
their
word?
How
can
we
bring
them
on
this
commission
highlighted?
D
They
don't
have
to
look
the
same,
but
I
do
want
you
to
know
it
is
twenty
eight
hundred
dollars
in
that
funding
and
the
African-American
Heritage
commission
wants
to
move
on
that
to
be
able
to
support
South
Side.
So
that's
my
report.
We
still
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do.
We
need
some
more
kind
of
tasks
and
then
once
we
get
the
task
going,
I'll
put
it
back
on
this
plan
up
here
here,
but
we
are
moving.
We've
got
some
things
going
and
we'll
schedule
something:
I'll
send
an
email
out.
F
C
F
I
love
that
you
mentioned
South
Side
several
times
in
your
in
your
breakdowns
and
that
that's
that
warms
my
heart,
I'm
glad
that
I
did
show
up
today.
Foreign
but
I
do
want
to
say.
Yes,
we
need
black
artists
and
black
photos
at
the
airport
when
people
come
in
to
see
that
there
are
black
people
here
in
Asheville
and
we
do
amazing
work.
So,
yes,
I
agree
with
that.
F
Connecting
with
the
river
Arts
District,
you
know,
I
kicked
my
foot
in
the
door
got
Jenny
Pickens
up
on
the
container,
then
my
baby
girl
was
up
there
for
like
three
and
a
half
years
with
her
artwork,
but
just
making
those
connections
down
in
the
river
Arts
District
and
South
Side
United
neighborhood
association
is
getting
ready
to
move
in
like
wait
a
minute.
We
need
some
support,
so
they
got
a
team,
that's
getting
ready
to
start
motivating
and
going
down
in
there,
the
markers
Rashida.
Yes,
we
need
to
still
have
that
discussion.
F
Lucy
invited
me
to
this
meeting
because
we
still
have
to
do
those
Town
Bridge
or
the
nasty
Branch
signs,
and
so
just
really
getting
our
community
to
show
up
because
I
don't
know
all
of
the
South
Side
history.
I
just
know
the
49
years
that
I've
been
here
on
this
Earth
infinity,
50.
and
there's
a
whole
lot
of
history.
F
That
I
don't
know
and
a
whole
lot
of
photos
that
I
haven't
seen
and
so
I'd
love
to
see
the
photo
of
those
folks
with
the
whole
Urban
removal
of
our
communities
and
especially
the
South
Side
Community,
because
it's
one
of
the
most
gentrified
communities
and
so
I'd
love
to
see
that
and
if
I
have
to
go
to
the
library
to
look
it
up.
I
will
and
that's
all
I
have
as
far
as
commenting
on
what
you
just
presented:
Miss
Washita
Hall,.
C
And
thank
you
Miss
Harper
I,
any
any
more
comments.
No
okay!
So
we're
gonna
move
on
to
five
new
business
new
business.
G
Hi
everybody.
Let
me
share
my
screen.
G
G
It
is
a
Greenway
project
that
is
a
paved
pathway
for
walking
and
biking.
We
plan
to
build
this
in
the
summer
of
2024..
The
greenway
is
three
quarters
of
a
mile
long
with
and
we'll
have
10
large
double-sided
interpretive
signs
that
tell
the
history
of
the
South
Side
Community
before
it
was
raised
during
Asheville's
urban
renewal
project.
G
So,
just
to
give
you
a
visual
of
what
the
greenway
project
looks
like
this
is
Depot
Street
on
the
bottom
left
hand,
side
with
the
grant,
Center
the
asterisk
symbolizes,
the
trailhead
location
and
the
green
dots
are
where
the
signs
will
be
located.
The
the
trail
goes
through
the
field
of
the
grant
Center
behind
the
fire
department
up
to
Ralph
Street.
G
It
crosses
Ralph
Street
and
goes
over
a
small
pedestrian
bridge
that
crosses
the
Town
Branch,
which
is
also
known
as
the
nasty
branch
and
we'll
go
through
the
woods
that
are
below
the
Eddington
Center
and
then
through
the
open
field
at
Congress.
This
is
all
paralleling
Choctaw
and
then
we'll
cross
Choctaw
and
go
through
a
section
that
parallels
old
Ashland
here
and
we'll
finally
end
over
here
between
Hart
funeral
home
and
Keystone
Labs
on
pifer
Street.
G
These
blue
squares
symbolize
markers
at
intersections
that
let
people
know
that
you're
on
the
greenway.
In
case
you
don't
start
at
the
bigger
Trail
heads.
So
it's
three
quarters
of
a
mile
long.
We
do
have
a
project
page.
So
if
you're,
looking
at
your
presentation
in
in
your
agenda,
you
can
you
can
get
this
link
to
our
project
page,
which
has
all
of
the
signs
that
I'm
talking
about
today,
and
it
will
also
have
our
updated
timeline.
G
This
slide
shows
a
drawing
of
what
the
monument
sign
design
will
look
like
they'll,
be
very
large
about
five
feet
wide
and
six
eight
feet
tall
with
this
brick
section
here.
G
This
brick
design
is
supposed
to
reflect
some
of
the
brickwork
that
were
on
buildings
at
the
South
Side
neighborhood
before
urban
renewal.
So
this
is
a
decorative
Motif
and
the
signs
that
we're
working
on
will
be
right
here
about
three
by
five
feet
in
size.
They'll
be
printed
on
metal
plates
that
will
be
able
to
screw
into
the
monument
sign
frame
so
we'll
be
able
to
replace
them
if
they're
damaged
or
through
time.
If
you
would
like
to
change
the
story
that
are
in
the
signs,
they'll
be
able
to
be
replaced
with
new
signs.
G
When
the
greenway
was
designed,
which
was
probably
10
years
ago,
it
was
before
I
started
working
at
the
city,
a
historian
that
was
on
the
greenway
design
team,
created
a
series
of
signs
for
this
Greenway
and
it
was
done
by
Matthew,
Rich
Matthews
I
almost
forgot
his
name
and
it's
an
incredible
amount
of
work.
It's
very
academically
accurate
and
has
a
lot
of
pictures
in
it,
but
we
found
them
to
be
kind
of
dry.
G
If
you
were
a
graduate
student
somewhere
or
really
loved
architecture
or
sociology,
maybe
you
would
have
had
a
real
interest
in
these
signs,
but
we
felt
like
they
just
lacked
a
little
bit
of
human
Connection
in
the
side,
so
we're
a
little
bit
too
dry.
So
we
really
wanted
to
readdress
the
messaging
of
the
signs
and
we
had
a
series
of
goals.
G
G
Another
goal
was
to
make
it
more
comprehensive
for
people
of
all
ages
because
of
the
length
of
the
greenway
Which
is
less
than
a
mile.
It's
very
flat.
We
do
anticipate
a
lot
of
people
coming
to
visit
the
greenway
of
all
ages,
so
people
who
might
have
trouble
walking
in
other
parts
of
our
mountainous
Town,
some
I
mean
older
people
when
I
say
that
and
also
much
younger
kids
and
families.
We
anticipate
coming
being
only
three
quarters
of
a
mile.
Long
is
a
perfect
field
trip
visit
for
local
schools.
G
And
we
wanted
to
reflect
the
heart
of
the
South
Side
Community
as
it
existed.
While
we
were
doing
our
public
engagement
and
as
we
continue
to
do
so,
we
keep
hearing
what
a
wonderful
Community
it
was
and
the
tight-knit
family-oriented
community.
And
so
we
have
signs
like
this
one
that
talk
about
the
grandmas
of
the
neighborhood
and
the
cornbread
that
they
made.
G
G
We
and
shivanda
was,
and
Rashida
actually
were
helping
in
2019
trying
to
get
some
people
from
the
older
community
that
had
grown
up
in
the
south
side
to
come
together
and
reflect
on
their
lives
in
the
South
Side.
We
had
a
couple
of
dinner
meetings
to
do
that
and
then,
sadly,
the
pandemic
hit,
and
we
decided
it
just
was
too
much
of
a
risk
to
try
to
move
forward
with
our
engagement
at
that
time.
So
we
put
it
on
pause.
G
We
started
again
when
the
South
Side
Rising
neighborhood
association
started,
and
we
came
out
and
introduced
ourselves
and
then
internally
we
had
a
lot
of
Staff
shortages,
so
we
had
another
pause,
but
we
were
able
to
pick
it
up
again
with
full
speed.
This
February
coming
back
to
the
South
Side
neighborhood
meetings.
We
also
started
an
online
survey
for
people
to
give
us
information.
G
We
had
an
exhibit
at
the
grind
down
on
Depot
Street,
so
that
people
could
come
and
see
and
have
the
survey
available
there,
and
we
also
had
a
presentation
on
WLOS
asking
people
to
do
the
survey
and
the
signs
were
up
at
the
grant
Center
until
after
the
survey
went
down
right
now.
G
I,
don't
know
if
you've
had
a
chance
to
look
at
the
signs
on
the
project
page,
but
every
one
of
the
signs
right
now
has
this
Banner
on
top,
which
was
an
example
of
the
possibility
of
having
a
photo
Banner
throughout
the
sign
of
people
who
live
in
the
south
side
or
or
people
who
had
lived
in
the
South
Side
relatives.
Who
might
have
passed
away
that
people
would
be
willing
to
share
their
photographs
for
us
to
put
into
the
banner?
G
In
order
to
make
that
successful,
we
would
need
about
at
least
four
dozen
photographs
to
be
able
to
use
it,
so
they
wouldn't
be
so
repetitive,
and
we
just
found
that
with
our
staff
limits
and
our
technology
limits,
we
just
found
that
a
little
bit
too
daunting,
so
we're
considering
taking
the
banner
down
and
or
possibly
replacing
it
with
pictures
of
the
architecture
that
was
missed,
because
that
is
available
in
the
North
Carolina
room
and
easy
to
replicate.
G
But
the
additions
that
we
would
like
to
add
to
the
signs
are,
and
one
of
the
signs
that
honors
Mr
Green's
grocery.
As
we've
heard
in
the
south
side,
that
was
a
very
important
and
an
important
grocery
in
an
area
where
there
was,
it
was
very
hard
to
find
groceries
and
Mr.
Green
was
a
leader
in
the
community.
For
that
reason,
we
also
want
a
panel
that
shows
the
original
boundaries
of
the
South
Side
Community,
which
we
understand
were
much
larger
than
what
we
consider
now
going
all
the
way
up.
G
Depot
Street
to
the
roundabout
there
and
also
Ashland
to
Hilliard,
and
then
the
third
panel
that
we
would
like
to
do
is
dedicated
to
the
food
culture
of
the
South
Side,
we've
heard
of
a
lot
of
restaurants
and
people's
grandmothers
owning
restaurants,
and
we
have
the
privilege
of
having
Hanan
Shahbaz
still
alive,
to
be
able
to
hopefully
be
able
to
interview
her
and
be
able
to
dedicate
one
of
the
panels
to
food
culture
from
the
south
side.
G
So
our
next
steps
are
to
create
the
second
draft
of
Science
and
gather
feedback
on
those
we
plan
to
be
doing
that
through
the
spring
and
would
like
to
finalize
the
signs
in
the
summer
and
then
I
see
that
I
think
that
this
is
correct.
The
in
late
fall,
The
Greenway
project
will
go
out
to
bid
if
all
goes
well,
but
I
put
the
construction
would
start
in
the
summer
of
2024,
mostly
because
our
capital
projects
department
is
very
short
on
Project
managers
at
the
moment.
G
So
if
they
are
able
to
hire
someone
who
would
be
able
to
take
on
this
project
earlier,
then
we
certainly
will
but
right
now.
The
timing
is
the
summer
of
2024
and
it
will
take
a
year
to
construct
The
Greenway.
So
at
that
time
we
will
put
up
the
panels.
It'll
be
the
last
thing
that
goes
up,
so
our
hope
is
to
have
the
signs
finished
early,
but
they
will
need
to
wait
for
the
construction
of
the
greenway
to
be
installed
on
the
greenway.
C
Thank
you
so
much
Miss
Crown,
oh
I,
do
have
a
question.
I
have
a
question.
Yes,
so
you
have
the
African-American
Heritage
Trail
and
the
the
River
Arts
District
I
know
a
signage
for
both
it
is
going
to
be
signage
for
the
African-American
Heritage
Trail.
So
I'm
just
wondering
how
the
communication
with
those
two
different
groups
as
far
as
coordinate
you
know.
So
it's
don't
be
look.
You
know
so
jammed
up
and
we
figured
out
something
with
that.
G
It
I
found
out
not
too
long
ago
that
what
I
had
known
was
a
project
that
was
mostly
in
the
East
End
and
the
Triangle
Park
had
been
much
more
expanded
and
will
go
down
into
the
south
side
and
up
Depot,
and
there
is
a
possibility
that
there
will
be
duplications
in
the
information.
But
I.
Don't
think
that
that's
necessarily
a
bad
thing.
I
think
that
the
greenway
will
be
really
more
directed
to
the
people
who
are
interested
in
enjoying
the
greenway
I.
G
Think
a
lot
of
younger
people,
families
will
be
attending
the
greenway
and
our
signs
are
designed
for
people
from
8
to
88
to
be
able
to
enjoy
where
I.
In
my
opinion
and
I'm
Catherine.
I
really
hope
that
you'll
jump
into
I
think
that
Catherine's
project
is
a
much
more
sophisticated
message
that
older
an
older
audience
will
be
able
to
enjoy
and
will
have
the
endurance
to
go
through
the
entire
trail.
That
goes
to
much
much
greater
distances
up.
The
East
End
through
the
south
side
and
Beyond.
C
Yeah
so
I
mean
pretty
much
is
this,
you
know:
it'll
go
through
East,
End,
I
think
downtown
South
Side
as
well,
and
also
you
know
the
the
the
train
is
has
has
a
lot
to
do
with
it
too.
So
it's
sort
of
the
same
some
of
the
same
areas
you
know
and
with
the
trail
I
mean
with
the
trail
I
know
it's
going
to
be
kiosks.
C
A
few
key
three
like
three
kiosks
downtown.
So.
G
Okay,
so
this
is.
G
Well,
this
is
McCormick
field
and
Memorial
Stadium.
So
there's
a
series:
these
red
tacks
are
the
signs
locations
in
the
East
End.
G
G
A
three-sided
kiosk,
with
a
view
of
the
wedge
building
placed
in
the
grass
continued
down
the
sidewalk
on
the
east
side
of
the
river,
are
where
you
arrive
at
Lyman
Street,
so
I.
If
you
I,
don't
know
exactly
how
they're
all
laid
out
but
yeah,
but
judging
by
the
location,
there
probably
is
one
about
the
railroad
and
the
jobs
that
it
created
there,
which
we
also
have
a
sign
of
in
our
in
in
the
cell
side
and.
F
Lucy,
could
you
email
that
map
to
me
because
I
I,
I
and
I
love
those
locations
in
the
river
Arts
District,
because
they
need
to
know
that
they
in
in
the
community
that
used
to
be?
And
so
yes
so
where
the
the
the
the
the
greenway
signs
are
might
not
be
connected
out
there.
Then
you
got
the
Heritage
signs,
that's
gonna,
be
there.
G
Yeah
I
mean
I
think
just
in
a
nutshell,
they're
four
different
type
of
audience.
This
is
for
an
older
crowd,
people
who
are
seeking
the
history
and
Heritage
and
areas
and
can
absorb
a
an
older
message
where
the
greenway
I
think
will
be
for
a
broader
audience
and
directed
more
towards
kids,
really.
G
So,
even
with
duplication,
I,
don't
think
that
I
think
it's
better
to
have
duplication
than
no
story
at
all
and
I.
Don't
think
the
duplication
is
a
bad
thing
in
any
way,
just
based
on
who
I
think
the
audience
will
be
for
both.
F
F
C
Next
we
have
who
do?
We
have
who's
the
lucky
one
Zakia
Bell
Rogers.
We
have
the
daughters
of
American
Revolution
marker
and
is
that
together
both
with
Mylon
Patton
yeah.
E
Was
was
the
key
is
pulling
it
up
again.
Thank
you
for
for
having
us
we.
We
should
not
take
the
entirety
for
20
minutes.
We
want
to
definitely
open
up
to
discussion
whenever
we
finish
or
throughout,
feel
free
to
ask
questions.
E
A
I'm
trying
to
find
it
this
is
the
share,
is
very
different
than
okay,
so
is.
A
B
A
And
so
my
outlet,
Myla
and
I,
have
been
in
a
group
working
with
the
daughters
of
the
revolution
of
the
American
Revolution
and
they
like
to
be
called
Dar
and
not
Dar,
so
if
you're
ever
like
in
a
meeting
with
them,
but
they
like
for
you
to
call
them
by
the
Dar.
And
so
this
is
our
presentation
to
you
all.
A
The
daughter
of
American
of
the
American
Revolutions
Edward
Buncombe
chapter
is
requesting
to
unveil
a
new
plaque.
They
had
a
plaque
there
before,
but
they
wanted
to
update
it.
The
intent,
an
intent
with
the
additional
silence
it.
The
signage
is
a
tell
the
full
story,
recognition,
commemoration
and
expression
of
commitment
to
repairing
the
harm
and
building
a
more
Equitable
feature.
A
E
And
it's
here,
maybe
before
we
get
to
the
monument
test,
to
sort
of
set
the
scene
a
little
bit
further
on
the
research
after
we
got
this
request.
E
At
least
four
of
the
individuals
were
involved
or
played
a
role
in
the
Rutherford
expedition
in
Buncombe
County.
This
is
something
that
that
is
known
as
like
a
scorched
Earth
really
really
negative
and
Sinister
way
about
wiping
and
ethnically
cleansing
Native
Americans
from
their
lands.
They've
been
it's
been
documented
that
in
the
early
Revolutionary
War
they
raped,
they
pillaged
literally
burned
the
land
of
Native,
Americans
and
sort
of
a
preemptive
strike
again
in
the
early
Revolutionary
War.
So
from
that
information
we
began
conversation
with
the
Daughters
of
the
American
Revolution.
E
We
said
how
can
we
tell
a
full
story
of
these
individuals?
We
understand
that
your
intent
is
to
recognize
their
contributions
to
starting
our
nation,
but
how
can
they
tell
our
story?
We've
established
commitment
to
both
black
history
and
Legacy
and
Native
American
history
and
Legacy.
So
we
wanted
to
tell
this
full
story.
E
The
Daughters
of
the
American
Revolution
have
been
willing
to
collaborate
with
us
so
again,
I
wanted
to
give
you
that
sort
of
sort
of
briefing
on
the
research
and
the
collaboration
and
how
that
channel
began
and
this
new
plaque
they're
going
to
be
rededicating
a
plaque
and
creating
a
new
plaque,
but
we
as
a
county
are
also
procuring
and
creating
a
plaque
that
sort
of
goes
to
tell
this
Fuller
story
and
reaffirms
the
County's
commitment
to
not
just
repairing
and
accounting
for
Past
Farms,
but
building
a
better
future.
E
So
with
that,
we
have
sort
of
a
draft
Monument
text,
that's
going
to
go
on
on
the
next
slide
again
we're
reaching
out
throughout
the
community
we're
wanting
to
get
out
before
we
in
the
finalizing
things
wanted
to
ensure
that
we
got
it
in
front
of
your
eyes
to
hear
your
thoughts,
not
just
about
the
text
but
about
the
process.
This
is
the
first
slide.
This
is
actually
a
two-parter.
It's
a
lot
of
words,
so
we
put
it
on
two
different
slides.
E
A
B
A
Sorry,
you
go
ahead.
Okay,
and
this
is
what
the
proposed
look
of
the
Monument
will
look
like
from
Buncombe
County.
E
It's
going
to
sit
outside
of
the
courthouse.
This
is
currently
where
their
marker
sits.
So
it's
going
to
sit
in
close
proximity,
if
not
directly.
Next
to
theirs
it's
going
to
be
in
a
poll,
and
then
it's
gonna.
This
is
going
to
be
two-sided,
whether
whether
it
be
aluminum
bronze,
some
other
material
again,
the
text
is
not
yet
completely
finalized.
We
may
do
some
for
building
around
with
the
design
and
the
font
location,
but
this
is
just
a
rough
conception
of
what
it
may
look
like.
Just
for
your
infinite
information.
E
C
Yeah
I
have
a
question
yeah
sure,
so
is
it?
Is
it
going
to
be
a
place
where
you
can
go
to
like
really
get
more
information,
because
I
I
mean
it's
it's
a
good
overview.
You
understand
what
I'm
saying
yes,
yeah
so
I
mean
to
really
hear
some
of
the
true
stories
like
what
really
really
happened.
You
know
what
I
mean
yeah.
E
No
worries
no
worries.
I
do
two
part
two-part
answer
to
this.
First
there's
going
to
be
a
link
or
a
reference
to
Buncombe
County
Special
collections
at
the
bottom
of
this,
so
we
we
didn't
fiddle
around
we're
gonna
have
the
dedication
date
and
we're
going
to
also
link
it
to
Buncombe
County
Special
collections,
which
has
an
extensive
array
of
resources,
so
not
just
Native
American
history,
but
also
black
history,
but
specifically
related
to
this.
So
there
will
be
a
link
for
folks
passersby.
E
In
addition,
this
is
not
the
end
of
the
project.
We're
also
going
to
have
a
collaborative
dedication
ceremony
to
happen
in
July,
wherein
they
will
not
just
you
know,
dedicate
their
plaque,
but
we
will
dedicate
ours
and
we
will
have
a
program
if
folks
from
the
Native
American
Community
would
like
to
would
like
to
share
we're.
Looking
at
a
person
from
the
African-American
Community
again
to
tell
that
full
story,
it's
not
just
going
to
be
this
plaque,
but
we're
really
going
to
have
a
collaborative
event
that
answers
your
question
and
Zakia.
E
You
and
this
is
the
timeline-
we've
been
involved
in
again
Community
engagement
for
the
past
few
weeks.
We
wanted
again
to
make
sure
that
we
got
a
chance
to
get
in
front
of
the
Heritage
commission.
We
were
looking
to
have
this
sort
of
finalized
earlier,
but
we
knew
this
is
your
next
meeting.
So
we
want
to
have
this.
E
We
want
to
make
sure
we
get
to
y'all
first
looking
to
order
the
plaque
in
the
coming
days
and
finalize
the
language
receiving
the
plaque
again,
that's
just
sort
of
internal,
but
when
we'll
get
it
but
we're
looking
to
have
it
installed
either
by
the
end
of
the
month
or
the
first
week
before
the
dedication
event
to
happen
in
July,
the
18th
and
again
that's
going
to
be
a
collaborative
thing.
E
E
Next
steps
again,
the
finalizing
Monument
details,
we're
reserving
the
event
space
so
we're
looking
to
have
it
at
pack,
Square
Park
we've
submitted
the
application
right
there
at
the
amphitheater
area,
we're
continuing
to
coordinate
Dar
on
the
dedication
event,
agenda,
speakers
and
Logistics
and
then
beginning
to
execute
the
communication
plan
to
ensure
that
we're
reaching
as
many
people
as
possible.
We
aren't
just
going
to
put
a
plaque
up
and
have
folks
ask
her
what
was
going
on
and
we
don't
want
to
just
have
this
event
and
there's
no
news
about
it.
E
This
is
really
a
unique
thing:
I,
don't
know
if
the
Daughters
of
the
American
Revolution
has
done
something
as
collaborative
position.
We
we
certainly
have,
and
in
terms
of
this
you
know,
engagement
is
public
private.
So
this
is
something
new
for
both
of
us
and
I
think.
E
This
is
something
we
definitely
wanted
to
respect
their
tradition,
as
well
as
their
purpose
of
honoring,
the
American
Revolution
Patriots,
but
we
also
wanted
to
really
stand
by
our
County
ideals
of
equity
and
repairing
past
forms,
and
we
saw
that
the
Daughters
of
the
American
Revolution
are
really
receptive
to
that
and
we've
been
working
throughout
this.
So
we
will
continue
to
coordinate
and
execute,
but
we
really
did
want
to
get
out
into
the
community.
So
we'll
love
to
hear
your
thoughts
about
how
we've
gone
about
this
process
as
far
ways.
E
F
A
The
team
has
done
a
lot
of
work
and
it's
been
a
lot
of
you
know,
give
and
take,
and
so
we,
but
we
know
Milan
and
I-
will
also
be
attending
one
of
their
meetings
in
May.
To
also
you
know,
give
more
information
to
the
group
and
receive
information
from
the
group
so
we're
doing
our
best
to
educate
and
learn
and
in
in
the
midst
of
educating
as
well.
C
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
presentation.
It's
awesome,
yeah
appreciate
your
work
and
thank
you
for
coming
as
well.
Anyone
anyone
else
have
anything
in
the
comments.
E
No
thank
you
I
like
to
note
that
if
y'all
have
any
questions
or
comments
in
the
coming
week
or
coming
weeks,
please,
our
inboxes
are
open.
We're
really
working
hard
on
this
week,
as
you
saw
at
the
beginning,
we
have
a
pretty
big
team.
The
key
has
been
been
here
since
day,
one
just
really
really
working
hard
on
this,
so
we're
grateful
to
be
here
and
thanks
for
having
us.
Thank
you.
C
All
right
so
we're
moving
on.
B
C
Okay,
so
we're
gonna
prove
the
minutes
for
what?
What
was
that
March
9th.
C
C
So
I
hope
everyone
had
a
chance
to
look
over
the
minute,
so
we're
going
to
approve
the
minutes
for
the
March
9th
meeting
any
questions
or
concerns
anything
any
put
about
the
last
meeting.
C
So
if,
if
not
I
need
a
I
moved
to
approve
those
minutes
there,
you
go
I.
Second,
that
thank
you
all
right.
So
we
got
roll
call,
Ashley
wilberley,
yes,
Brandon
Oliver,.
B
C
B
C
C
I
know
well
me
personally,
I
would
like
to
see
if
we
can
re
reconnect
with
UNCA,
they
came
and
gave
us.
Oh
I'm.
Sorry
Brenda
go
ahead.
I'm,
sorry.
C
Miss
Mitchell
she's,
raising
that
she
managed
to
hand
the
vote
on
the
minutes.
Okay,
yeah
we
some
months
ago,
we
had
UNCA,
come
and
give
us
a
presentation,
I
wonder
if
we
can
just
circle
back
around
with
them
and
see
what
they
you
know
what's
going
on,
maybe.
B
C
B
B
I'll
I'll
Circle
back
with
you
and
make
sure
that's
what
we
want.
Okay
and
I'll
see
if
I
can
find
that
in
a
minute
because
see
what
we
can
do,
okay,
sure,
absolutely
and
then
I
wanted
to
add.
You
need
to
do
election
of
officers
so.
B
Would
you
like
to
put
together
a
nomination
committee
that
would
be
three
persons
from
your
from
your
commission?
That
would
talk
with
the
members
to
see
who's
interested
because
you
need
advice,
you
need
a
chair,
analyze,
chair
that
way
a
chair
can't
make
it
you've
got
someone
that
can
stand
in
and
run
your
meetings
right.
B
B
Will
you
be
chatting
with
the
members
to
see
who's
interested
I,
think
I
think
that
would
be
good?
Yes,.
C
C
Okay,
so
our
next
meeting
is
scheduled
for
Thursday
May,
11th
2023
and
the
African-American
Heritage
commission
remains
virtual,
checked
on
the
city's
engagement
hub
for
more
directions
on
how
to
participate,
if
there's
not
any
more
questions
or
concerns
or
anything.
Thank
you
all
for
attending.
Thank
you
all
for
having
me
absolutely
thank
you
for
thank
you
for
coming,
and
you
know,
sharing
I
appreciate
everyone.
C
If
that's
it,
that's
it
any
objections.
All
you
want
to
say
is
that
it?
No!
No,
that's
okay!
So
adjourned.
Thank
you.
Bye-Bye.