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A
She
has
a
an
empty
chair
in
one
of
our
boxes
here
on
the
screen.
E
Welcome
to
the
february
3rd
planning
and
zoning
commission
meeting
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
will
hear
public
comments.
Only
on
items
that
appear
on
the
agenda.
Presentations
by
the
public
should
be
limited
to
no
more
than
10
minutes
for
the
main
spokesperson
for
a
group
and
no
more
than
three
minutes
for
other
individuals
and
that
doesn't
really
apply
right
now,
but
anyway,
additional
information,
as
always
may
be
conveyed
to
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
in
written
form
and
we'll
begin
with
approval
of
the
minute.
So
no
we'll
begin
with
roll
call.
E
F
C
Commissioner,
you,
commissioner,
levi
here,
commissioner.
G
D
E
H
E
G
C
All
right,
so
this
probably
looks
a
little
bit
familiar
to
some
of
the
commissioners
when
we
brought
before
you
some
previous
160d
amendment.
C
C
It
is
a
chapter
in
the
north
carolina
general
statutes
that
were
adopted
as
part
of
a
session
law
in
2019,
and
it
becomes
effect
it
became
effective
in
of
in
june
of
last
year.
So
it
replaces
the
old
160a
chapter
or
much
of
that
168
chapter,
not
all
of
it
and
153a,
which
was
the
county's
corresponding
chapters,
and
these
are
the
chapters
that
contain
all
of
the
land
use
laws
of
the
state.
C
So
it
takes
those
two
chapters
for
city
and
county,
combines
them
and
then
also
clarifies
some
things
reorganizes
some
of
the
information
and
actually
just
sort
of
modernizes
a
lot
of
it.
So
it's
it's
a
it's
generally
felt
to
be
an
improvement,
and
it's
not
necessarily
something.
That's
meant
to
be
controversial.
C
So
the
focus
of
today's
160d
amendment
is
about
discretionary
decisions
and
in
addressing
these
discretionary
decisions
we
basically
have
two
options
and-
and
let
me
back
up
for
just
a
moment-
to
talk
about
discretionary
decisions.
So
what
I
mean
when
I
say
that
is
throughout
the
ordinance.
There
are
instances
where
you
have
a
requirement
and
then
there
will
be
some
language
that
will
say:
oh,
but
the
planning
director
can,
you
know,
grant
an
extension
or
the
traffic
engineer
can
make
an
exception.
C
So
anytime,
a
staff
person
is
given
some
authority
to
make
some
sort
of
subjective
or
discretionary
decision
is
inconsistent
with
160d.
So
160d
clarifies
that
any
of
these
sort
of
subjective
or
discretionary
decisions
can
only
be
made
by
certain
bodies
like
the
council
or
the
board
of
adjustment
or
the
hrc.
C
C
So
in
our
case,
when
we
go
and
we
sort
of
examine
all
of
those
different
places,
we
realize
we
basically
have
two
options.
One
is
we
can
just
remove
the
authority
that
gives
you
that
ability
to
make
an
exception,
or
you
can
add
some
clear
and
objective
criteria
by
which
an
exception
can
be
considered.
So
some
examples,
here's
a
case
where
we
may
just
want
to
remove
that
language,
and
this
has
to
do
with
permit
validity.
This
particular
example,
so
a
zoning
permit
is
good
for
one
year
and
the
existing
language
includes
that
sentence.
C
C
What
kind
of
justification
so
there's
just
a
lot
of
questions
there,
and
so
in
order
to
just
you
know,
make
it
simple
and
clear.
C
Maybe,
and
it
always
raises
a
lot
of
questions,
and
it's
always
a
little
bit
confusing,
and
you
know
when
do
you
grant
it
and
when
do
you
not
and
who
grants
it
and
under
what
circumstances,
and
what
kind
of
information
do
we
need
to
justify
it?
You
know
it's
it.
Just
it
just
raises
more
questions
than
than
the
benefit
it
provides,
so
that
is
the
majority
of
the
revisions.
C
Here's
another
example
with
sidewalk
standards.
Sidewalks
are
required
as
set
forth
and
seven
eleven
eight
and
then
here's
an
instance
where
it
says
that
they
have
to
be
10
feet
wide
or
the
city
engineer
may
approve
an
alternative
width
based
on
the
context.
So
here's
another
case
where
you're
asking
one
person
the
city
engineer
to
look
at
the
context
and
determine
whether
or
not
an
exception
can
be
granted.
C
C
You
know
it's
a
10
foot
wide
sidewalk
that's
required,
but
the
applicant
just
simply
does
not
have
the
physical
space
between
an
existing
building
and
existing
transportation
facilities.
So
here's
an
instance
where
maybe
we
want
to
consider
an
alternative
or
we
want
to
add
some
objective
criteria.
C
So
that's
what
we've
done
now
we
didn't
do
it
under
the
sidewalk
section.
We
did
it
under
the
fee
in
lu
section,
so
we're
saying
that
you
can
pay
a
fee
in
lieu
of
that
sidewalk
if
these
conditions
exist
and
we
came
up
with
seven
different
situations
where,
if
you
met
this
objective
standard,
then
you
could
pay
a
fee
in
lieu
of
that
sidewalk.
C
So
the
very
first
one
you
see
there
is
that
there
is
that,
where
the
sidewalk
is
proposed
to
be
constructed
that
there
that
there
basically
isn't
wait
is
that
the
right
standard?
So
I
was
proposing
construction
existing
right
away.
C
Yes,
where
the
there
isn't
sufficient
easement
width
without
reducing
the
existing
transportation
facilities
and
the
adaptive
reuse
of
preservation
of
an
existing
building
or
structure
prevents
extending
the
sidewalk
onto
private
properties.
So,
in
those
past
instances
where
you
heard
variances,
you
won't
be
seeing
these
variances
any
longer,
because
somebody
can
just
pay
a
fee
in
lieu
of
of
being
required
to
do
that.
Sidewalk
or
I
anticipate
that
you
won't
see
any
variances.
C
C
Another
example
are
our
table
of
uses,
there's
been
in
a
besides
160d
there's
been
other
case
law.
That
says
that
that
says
that,
basically,
what
we
do
in
our
ordinance
where
it
says
if
it's
not
listed
as
a
permitted
use
in
that
zoning
district,
it's
prohibited.
You
can't
do
that.
C
So
here
is
a
case
where
we
are
not
only
correcting
that,
based
on
that
case
law,
but
we're
providing
some
some
criteria
by
which
to
evaluate
if,
if
a
use
is
not
listed
in
the
table,
the
zoning
administrator
will
use
these
criteria
to
determine
what
it
is
most
similar
to.
So
here's
an
example
where
we're
trying
to
kind
of
give
some
objective
criteria.
C
So
there
are
really
only
three
spots
in
this
draft
ordinance
where
we
do
that,
we
do
that
with
sidewalk
fee
and
lou.
We
do
it
with
the
the
standards
for
the
permitted
uses
and
we
do
it
with
flexible
development
standards
and
most
of
the
flexible
development
stuff
has
to
do
with
setbacks
and
parking.
C
C
C
Yeah
so
you're
suggesting
your
recommendation
is
to
change
that
language
from
the
applicant
shall
have
one
year
to
obtain
the
required
building.
Building
permits
to
say
that
they'll
have
one
year
to
apply
for
the
required
building
permits.
Is
that.
D
I
F
Question
on
that
sidewalk
fee
and
lose
shannon.
I
mean
that
so
the
fee
in
lieu
is
only
for
the
part
that
they
couldn't
do
I
mean
in
reading
that
right
I
mean
the
one
that
instantly
comes
to
mind.
Was
that
one
on
south
lexington,
even
though
there
was
a
sidewalk
already
there,
but
let's
just
say
it
wasn't,
they
could
only
build,
say
a
six
foot
sidewalk.
F
F
F
Okay
and
then-
and
this
kind
of
I
think,
gets
into
that
the
discretionary
thing
in
looking
at
those
red
lines
you
sent
on
page
six,
where
it's
talking
about
it's
in
the
urban
place
district.
It
talks
about
you
know
providing
pedestrian
amenities,
fifty
50
reduction
on
the
number
of
parking
spaces
if
they
provide
transit,
shelters,
pedestrian
amenities
and
bike
racks,
and
then
the
part
that
gets
cut
out
is
if
those
amenities
are
determined
to
offer
significant
multimodal
transportation
benefits
is.
C
Yeah,
let's
look
at
that
section.
Can
you
tell
me
again
what.
F
It
was
page
six
on
the
pdf.
Let's
see,
let
me
go
up.
It
is
section
seven,
eight,
twenty
five
number
9c
yeah
right
there.
C
F
C
C
F
C
That's
the
subjectivity
that
we're
trying
to
get
away
from
so
we
would
need
to
in
order
to
include
that
we
would
have
to
like
basically
define
what
is
significant,
multimodal
yeah,
and
I
guess
that's.
F
Kind
of
where
I'm,
where
I'm
I
don't
know
the
solution
to
it,
but
I
would
hate
to
just
say:
oh
the
developer
has
you
know
they
put
up
a
transit
shelter
and
they
got
a
little.
You
know
three
bike
bike
rack
out
there
and
it's
called
like
that's
it.
Then
they
could
get.
The
reduction
like
it
seems
like
there
needs
to
be
some
quantitative
standards
for
what
would
permit
them
to
have
that
for
50
reduction.
Does
that
make
sense.
C
Yeah
and
that's
exactly
what
we
need
are
those
quantitative
standards,
so
we
would
need
to
know
what
that
is.
So
I
get,
I
guess
when
we
reviewed
this
with
the
transportation
staff,
they
felt.
Okay,
that,
in
this
particular
urban
place,
is
a
very
urban
oriented
development,
so
we're
expecting
it
to
to
not
have
as
much
surface
parking,
so
we're
kind
of
giving
them
an
easy.
Fifty
percent
reduction.
Okay,
there
isn't
a
lot
of
urban
place
land
right
now,.
J
F
C
Yeah-
and
this
is
probably
not
the
only
section
where
this
will
occur-
open
space
fee
in
lieu
is
also
included
in
this,
and,
of
course,
we
have
an
open
space
draft,
that's
kind
of
in
the
works
right
now
that
might
get
amended
moving
forward,
but
in
order
to
comply
with
the
deadline,
we're
we're
just
trying
to
remove
that
discretionary
language.
So.
F
F
C
All
right:
well,
if
there
aren't
any
more
questions,
I'll
stop
presenting
and
someone
if
someone
would
like
to
recess
the
hearing,
we'll
pick
it
back
up
on
friday,.
C
I
think
you
can
just
say
you
know
just
call
the
person's
name
and
they
would
they'll
just
say
yay.
E
E
C
All
right
and
I'll
just
for
the
record
say
that
mr
rodriguez
gave
us
a
thumbs
up.
So
his
vote
isn't
is
an
eye
hi.
G
C
E
For
clarity,
ms
levi,
that
was
a
yes
or
a
no.
I
I
C
All
right
well
we're
ready
to
move
on
to
the
next
item.
Then.
E
So
the
next
item
is
another
zoning
text.
Amendment
consideration
proposed
zoning
text,
amendment
chapter
7
of
the
unified
development,
ordinance,
meaning
articles
2,
3,
5,
eight,
nine
and
seventeen
in
order
to
adopt
new
standards
regulating
hotels
staff,
coordinating
review
is
stacy
merton
and
shannon
tuff.
A
Thank
you,
stacy
and
playing
the
zoning
commission
todd
o'clocheny
planning
an
urban
design
director.
A
If
you
recall
we
were
we
actually
presented
to
some
of
you
last
fall
when
we
first
had
our
initial
public
hearing
and
some
discussion
on
changes
to
the
hotel
overlay
map,
of
where
hotels
may
be
possibly
permitted
by
right
and
new
hotel
development
regulations,
and,
after
several
more
months
of
discussions
with
the
community
boards
and
commissions
and
after
two
more
council
work
sessions,
staff
is
coming
back
before
you
tonight
as
part
of
a
public
hearing
to
present
our
final
recommendations.
A
Just
to
start
off
with
a
couple
of
key
takeaways
after
the
last
year
and
a
half
of
going
through
this
hotel
development
moratorium
and
researching
hotels
and
how
they
could
be
regulated
that
hotels
can't
be
banned
outright,
that
a
hotel
as
a
land
use
is
not
something
that
north
carolina
state
statutes.
Allow
us
to
ban
outright
that
staff
believes
the
development
impacts
of
hotels
can
be
managed
and
that
we
are
proposing
several
new
creative
tools
to
help
regulate
hotel
development
approvals
within
the
city.
A
This
process
started
in
september
of
2019
and
since
then,
staff
has
worked
with
the
community
and
contracted
with
an
organization
called
the
urban
land
institute
to
help
provide
some
research
and
recommendations
pertaining
to
how
we
could
potentially
regulate
hotels
in
the
future
staff
also
prepared
what
was
called
a
briefing
book
in
the
early
part
of
2020
that
identified
trends
in
in
hotel
development
over
the
last
10
years
or
so
and
tried
to
quantify
impacts
of
hotel
development
so
between
the
impacts
of
hotels
and
the
recommendations
by
urban
land
institute
city
staff
carry
forward
some
of
those
recommendations
that
pertain
to
hotels
as
a
land
use,
and
we
are
recommending
new
development
regulations
pertaining
to
hotels
in
the
spring.
A
A
As
I
mentioned,
we
did
hold
a
number
of
different
community
engagement
sessions
throughout
the
last
year
or
so,
and
we've
made
a
lot
of
revisions
from
where
we
first
started
with
this
proposal.
A
Some
of
the
ones
are
just
highlighted
on
the
screen
here,
such
as
reducing
the
extent
of
areas
suitable
for
hotel
development.
We've
we've
drastically
reduced
areas
within
our
new
proposed
hotel
overlay
district,
where
small
hotels
could
be
permitted.
We've
made
a
lot
of
adjustments
to
our
public
benefits
table,
including
a
lot
of
additional
options
that
the
community
and
city
council
felt
were
priorities
to
them,
and
we
made
some
other
changes
based
on
that
input
from
and
feedback
from
the
community.
A
What
we
want
to
do
is
is
provide
a
quick
recap
of
what
we
heard
from
city
council
from
work
sessions
that
we
held
in
the
fall
of
last
year,
as
well
as
conversations
that
staff
has
had
with
council
members
in
the
early
part
of
of
this
new
year
in
2021.
A
What
we
heard
from
council
is
that
there
is
an
interest
in
removing
some
areas
from
the
overlay
district
and
we've
made
a
number
of
changes,
such
as
removing
the
asheville
mall
area
from
the
hotel
overlay
district
map.
We've
removed,
the
river
ridge
marketplace
shopping
center
in
east
asheville.
A
We've
also
removed
some
areas
in
the
central
business,
district
or
downtown
east
of
south
charlotte
street,
between
woodfin
and
college
place
and
again,
this
feedback
was
based
on
council
and,
and
we
also
had
feedback
from
boards
and
commissions
and
some
community
members
about
reducing
the
overall
size
of
the
the
overlay
district
council.
Also
in
the
work
sessions
last
year,
asked
staff
to
consider
a
potential
minimum
spacing
requirement
between
hotels.
A
This
is
something
that
we
looked
at
extensively
and
at
this
time,
staff
does
not
recommend
a
spacing
requirement
for
a
number
of
reasons.
First,
we
we
worked
a
lot
on
creating
a
new
hotel
overlay
district.
We
where
we
thought
that,
based
on
certain
criteria,
that
hotels
would
be
most
appropriate
in
those
areas
and
that's
really
our
tool
for
kind
of
dictating
where
new
hotels
may
or
may
not
be
permitted
within
the
city.
A
One
of
those
consequences
could
be
that
a
developer
could
potentially
purchase
lots
in
certain
areas
of
the
city
that
are
identified
on
the
hotel
overlay
map
and
hold
on
to
those
properties,
and
then
nothing
happens
with
those
properties
in
order
to
prevent
another
competitor
from
purchasing
that
lot
to
redevelop
it's
possible
with
the
spacing
requirement.
A
It
would
also
create
market
volatility
that
a
developer
might
purchase
a
piece
of
property
and
then
their
neighbor
proposes
a
hotel
application,
and
that
would
create
volatility
in
the
marketplace
and
then,
finally,
a
spacing
requirement
might
actually
end
up
pushing
hotels
into
other
areas
of
the
city
where
they're
not
desired.
A
What
staff
is
recommending
is
that
we
can
update
the
living
national,
comprehensive
plan
to
address
the
concern
of
clustering
of
too
many
land
uses,
such
as
hotels,
and
to
encourage
a
mix
of
uses.
The
the
plan
has
a
future
land
use
section
where
we
think
it's
appropriate
to
add
additional
language
in
the
near
future.
That
could
address
that
concern
about
a
clustering
of
hotels
and
provide
some
some
additional
tools
for
when,
when
decisions
are
made
about
about
hotels,
the
clarification
of
definitions
for
hotels
is
something
that
we've
also
worked
extensively
on.
A
In
particular,
there
was
a
concern
about
how
short-term
vacation
rentals
are
addressed
within
staff's
recommendations,
short-term
vacation,
rentals
for
for
individually,
owned
or
managed
or
operated
short-term
vacation.
Rentals
are
not
something
that
we're
we're
addressing
with.
With
these
changes,
currently
short-term
vacation
rentals
are
prohibited
throughout
a
majority
of
the
city,
except
for
a
zoning
district
called
the
resort.
A
Zoning
district,
which
is
a
very
limited
area
within
the
city
and
includes
such
parcels
such
as
the
crowne,
plaza
hotel
and
the
grove
park
inn
what
we
are
managing
and
addressing
with
this
proposal
is
what
we
call
large
hotel,
which
is
over
35
rooms,
small
hotel,
which
is
under
that
that
room
count
and
another
definition,
an
existing
definition
that
we've
modified
for
something
called
an
extended
stay
hotel,
and
I
will
maybe
ask
shannon
tuck.
C
Sure
todd
can
I
get
you
to
stop
sharing
and
then
I'll
or
I
guess
you
don't
have
well
okay.
Thank
you.
D
C
Okay,
so
the
ordinance
that
was
included
in
your
packets
included
the
first
two
definitions,
hotel,
comma,
small
and
hotel
comma
large.
We
are
actually
proposing
a
couple
minor
changes
to
those
two
definitions
that
were
not
included
in
your
ordinance
and
then
to
add
a
third
definition
for
guest
room.
C
Between
the
last
time,
we
had
an
in-depth
conversation
with
the
commission,
and
this
conversation
we
added
language
to
say
to
to
address
extended,
stay
units
or
hotels,
so
that
that
red,
strikethrough
language,
if
you
look
at
your
ordinance
as
it
was
submitted,
this
would
not
be
struck
through,
would
not
be
read
as
just
black
like
we
added
additional
text,
it
would
be
highlighted.
C
And
we
didn't
want
people
to
get
kind
of
bogged
down
in
like
well.
What,
if
I
have
a
little
suite
and
there's
a
pull-out
couch?
Does
that
count
as
a
guest
room
like
so
we
wanted
to
try
to
clarify
what
exactly
is
a
guest
room
and
that's
probably
more
applicable
for
extended
stay
hotels
where
you
may
actually
have
separate
bedrooms,
especially
you
know.
If
we
get
into
some
of
the
boutique
offerings
like
in
the
downtown,
where
you
might
actually
have
two
or
three
bedrooms.
C
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
the
impacts
of
those
units
are
measured
appropriately
and
that
we're
using
the
same
standard
between
a
regular
hotel
and
an
extended
stay
hotel.
So
we're
just
looking
at
the
guest
rooms
to
determine
what
is
large
or
small.
So
we
think
this
is
a
better
way,
a
more
clear
way
to
define
those
large
and
small
thresholds,
and
that's
all
so.
We
would
just
ask
that,
when
it
comes
time
to
vote
that
you
vote
with
this
small
correction.
A
And
and
just
add
some
additional
context,
thank
you.
Shannon!
The
in
extended
state
hotel,
the
ways
to
find
in
the
udo
currently
is
that
it
includes
it
is
a
hotel.
It's
managed
by
one
one
management
company,
one
entity,
and
it
includes
some
additional
amenities,
such
as
a
kitchen
and
or
a
living
room.
A
Those
extended
state
hotels,
kind
of
look
like
apartments,
you
know
in
the
inside,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
this
definition
is
reflecting
also
kind
of
current
land
uses
and
what
we're
seeing
today,
one
of
those
types
of
land
uses
is
something
called
for
lack
of
a
better
word.
It's
like
a
short-term
vacation
rental
hotel.
A
What
is
that?
We
we've
seen
some
applications
or
some
proposals
that
have
come
through
more
recently,
where
a
hotel
is
managed
by
one
management
company,
but
they
advertise
the
units
on
a
platform
like
airbnb
or
vrbo.
They
might
also
we've
seen
large
companies
like
marriott
or
hilton.
Also
utilize.
That
model
where
you
could.
A
You
could
secure
your
your
hotel
room
on
marriott
or
hilton,
but
you
could
also
look
on
airbnb
and
find
those
individual
units
available
for
for
for
rent.
A
So
we
are,
we
want
to
make
sure
we're
capturing
that
with
these
these
new
definitions
and
essentially
in
in
staff's
view,
it
doesn't
matter
if
it's
noticed
on
a
platform
like
airbnb
versus
a
main
corporate
webpage.
It's
still
we're
talking
about
hotel
use,
that's
managed
by
one
operation
or
entity,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
that
we've
clearly
defined
that
in
the
udl.
A
G
E
G
A
So
let's
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
the
new
development
review
process
would
look
like
in
this
proposal.
Essentially,
what
we're
recommending
is
a
two
option
process
and
the
first
option
shown
on
the
left
hand.
Side
of
the
screen
in
green
is
a
staff
level
review,
whereas
the
option
on
the
right
would
entail
a
city
council
review
via
conditional
zoning.
So
the
first
question
we
would
ask
is
whether
or
not
a
new
hotel
project
is
located
within
our
newly
established
hotel
overlay
district.
A
H
A
H
I'm
not
seeing
the
presentation
on
my
screen.
Okay,
I'm
just
seeing
a
black
face.
A
A
Okay,
great
so,
under
this,
the
staff
review
staff
level
review
option.
A
What
those
thresholds
are?
It's
a
hotel,
that's
under
115
rooms,
the
the
size
of
a
of
a
hotel
if
it's
mixed
in
with
another
land
use
such
as
an
office
or
residential
use,
we
would
still
look
at
the
overall
size
of
that
that
office
or
residential
use
and
that
cannot
exceed
100
000
square
feet
for
that
that
particular
use.
A
So
these
are
our
thresholds
that
we
have
in
here,
as
well
as
a
an
overall
building
height
of
100
feet,
maximum
anything
that
exceeds
115
rooms
or
exceeds
100
feet
in
height
or
if
it's
a
mixed
use.
Building
that
has
a
hotel
mixed
in
with
another
use.
A
Our
goal
really
here
is
to
limit
the
geographic
extent
of
where
hotels
are
are
located
to
appropriate
locations
throughout
the
city.
We've
used
a
number
of
different
criteria
to
help
establish
this
map,
and
again
we
received
a
lot
of
feedback
pertaining
to
the
map
and
made
a
lot
of
adjustments.
A
A
We've
used
a
number
of
different
methodology
in
helping
us
to
to
identify
those
those
neighborhoods
and
to
adjust
our
overlay
map
to
try
to
limit
impacts
on
those
neighborhoods.
A
We
also
want
to
encourage
historic
preservation
and
adaptive
reuse,
so
we
you'll
see
in
the
map
that
we
avoid
some
of
our
historic
areas
of
the
city,
such
as
our
traditional
historic
core
of
our
downtown
and
then.
Finally,
we
want
to
try
to
protect
some
of
the
view
shed
corridors
into
the
downtown
area
for
the
hotel
overlay
map.
We
are
have
identified
basically
two
areas
where
hotels
might
be
permitted
by
right
again
if
they
provide
public
benefits
and
other
criteria
and
meet
other
criteria.
A
A
Yes,
thank
you.
Sorry,
I
can't
see
everyone
so
just
yeah.
I
appreciate
that
verbal
notice,
but
I'll
zoom
in
first
to
kind
of
give
you
an
idea
of
what
it
looks
like
in
the
downtown
area
and
the
riverfront
and
tunnel
road.
A
A
One
change
that
that
I
would
like
to
mention
that
we
would
make
is
that
we
would
remove
the
there's
a
parcel
for
the
the
great
eagle
music
venue
that
we
would
remove
from
the
small
hotel
overlay
and
we
would
move.
We
would
recommend
removing
that
from
the
map
and
some
of
the
criteria
that
we
used
again.
We
we
looked
at
available
infrastructure,
whether
these
locations
were.
A
If
they
were,
public
transit
was
available
in
these
locations
if
they
were
located
near
commercial
corridors
to
address
some
of
the
vehicular
impacts
of
hotels,
other
infrastructure
such
as
utilities
and
water
and
sewer.
A
A
This
overlay
map
represents
less
than
eight
percent
of
all
of
land
in
the
city,
so
we're
only
talking
about
a
very
small
area
in
the
city
where
hotels
could
potentially
be
permitted.
If
this
proposal
is.
A
Approved
the
other
element
of
the
development
standards
for
hotels
are
that
we're
making
changes
to
our
udo
or
unified
development,
ordinance
to
address
site,
building
design
and
operational
standards
for
hotels,
so
examples
of
site
development
regulations
would
be
like
the
setbacks
of
hotels,
for
example,
building
design
we
have
new
requirements
for
fenestration
or
windows
of
hotels,
for
example,
and
operational
standards
would
pertain
to
things
like
the
drop-off
area
for
hotels
and
we
have
new
standards
for
for
all
these
three
categories.
A
There's
a
new,
a
new
standard
that
I
particularly
like
related
to
the
building
design
is
for
actually
activating
requiring
ground
floor
activation
of
hotels
at
50
of
of
that
that
ground
floor
facade,
and
that
was
a
recommendation
that
we
added
to
try
to
improve
that
ground
floor
activation
with
with
active
uses
for
hotels.
A
The
second
main
element
pertains
to
the
public
benefits
in
a
table
we've
created
in
a
new
scoring
system,
so
the
public
benefits.
What
we
heard
from
council
council
members
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
had
options
for
reparations.
As
you
can
see.
On
the
right
hand,
side
of
the
screen
we've
added
three
options
pertaining
to
a
monetary
contribution
to
a
new
reparations
fund.
A
The
the
benefit
would
range
from
two
thousand
dollars
per
room
up
to
four
thousand
dollars
per
room
and,
as
you
can
see,
the
number
of
points
increase
depending
upon
the
the
level
or
amount
of
the
contribution
so,
for
example,
a
100
room
hotel
if
they
chose
to
contribute
to
the
reparations
fund,
that
would
entail
a
contribution
of
400
000.
A
We
think
that
this
is
a
good
start
to
help
funding
reparations
in
the
city.
We
we
do
obviously
need
to
continue
to
define
reparations
and
a
policy
around
reparations
in
the
city,
but
this
is
a
what
we
think
is
a
good
start
toward
funding
that
reparations
fund.
We've
aligned
the
the
definition
of
that
with
our
reparations
resolution
that
was
adopted
by
city
council
last
year.
A
A
Five
of
those
options
are
related
to
the
city's
housing
trust
fund,
where
a
hotelier
or
developer
could
choose
to
contribute
money
to
the
city's,
affordable
housing
trust
fund,
which
historically,
we've
used
to
help
fund
both
for
some
for
sale
units
is
but
mostly
for
rent,
affordable
units
in
the
range
of
thirty
percent
area,
median
income
and
all
the
way
up
to
eighty
percent
area.
A
Median
income
staff
is
recommending
that
we
we
keep
these
options
for
the
housing
trust
fund
as
a
way
to
help
support
the
housing
trust
fund
program
and
continue
to
let
our
community
development
staff
manage
how
those
funds
are
are
distributed
for,
affordable
rental
projects
in
the
city.
A
We've
also
included
two
options
to
to
actually
build
affordable
housing
units
and
integrate
those
as
part
of
an
affordable
housing
project
and
that's
at
80
percent
area
median
income.
A
A
So
hopefully,
everyone
can
see
the
the
attachment
here,
a
pdf
of
what
the
entire
public
benefits
table
looks
like,
and
what
staff
is
recommending
is
is
a
tiered
based
system
where,
depending
upon
where
the
hotel
is
located,
we
would
require
a
certain
number
of
points.
And
again
this
is
an
incentive
based
system.
A
So,
if
a
hotelier
chooses
to
comply
with
this
new
public
benefits
system,
they
would
have
the
opportunity
to
be
reviewed
and
possibly
approved
at
a
staff
level
if
they,
if
a
project,
does
not
meet
the
this
system
and
they
do
not
meet
a
certain
number
of
points,
then
automatically
that
would
trigger
a
city
council
review,
and
this
is
a
way
for
us
to
have
a
very
standard,
clear
process
for
new
hotel
development
applications
that
everybody
is
playing
by
the
same
rules
and
everyone
is
aware
of
what
what
our
expectations
are
at
the
beginning
of
a
project
at
the
top
of
the
screen.
A
We
would
require
a
higher
number
of
points
and
it's
based
on
the
room,
the
hotel
size.
So,
as
you
can
see,
a
hotel
room
under
35
rooms
would
be
required
to
achieve
100
points
from
this
table.
A
larger
hotel
would
be
required
to
achieve
180
points
for
suburban
hotels,
which
are
areas
located
outside
of
the
central
business
district
were
outside
biltmore,
village
or
outside
the
river
arts
district.
We
have
a
a
different
scoring
system
for
those
areas.
A
We
have
three
groups,
and
the
first
group
really
pertains
mostly
to
to
incorporating
green
building
elements
as
part
of
the
hotel
group
two
includes
all
of
our
affordable
housing
options,
an
option
for
employee-owned
business
benefit,
lit,
providing
living
wages,
a
transportation
benefit
and
something
called
a
b
corp
certification,
which
is
a
a
process
where
that
includes
a
business
that
has
sustainability
elements
baked
into
that
organization.
A
Living
wages
is,
is
also
sometimes
part
of
that
and
contracting,
as
I
mentioned,
or
supporting
minority
women-owned
business
enterprises,
and
we
have
two
options
related
to
mwbes.
A
As
I
mentioned,
we
also
have
three
options
for
contributing
to
a
new
reparations
fund
and
all
the
descriptions
are
shown
on
the
right
hand,
side
of
the
screen
and
what
staff
is
kind
of
requiring
it's.
A
new
recommendation
from
staff
is
that
at
least
50
percent
of
benefits
of
the
required
points
and
the
benefits
come
from
this
grouping
which
includes
affordable
housing,
living
wages
and
reparations.
So
at
least
50
percent
of
the
points
should
come
from
this
group.
A
We,
after
a
lot
of
discussions
with
the
community
and
boards
and
commissions
and
council.
We
really
felt
like
these
public
benefits
related
to
affordable
housing
and
reparations,
for
example,
were
really
the
major
priorities
for
council
and
for
the
community.
I
A
A
Yes,
sorry
and
this
table
this
table
doesn't
include
everything.
We
have
some
definitions
that
that
explain
how
some
of
these
benefits
work.
A
The
the
supporting
minority
women
on
business
enterprises
is
a
benefit
which
is
a
monetary
contribution
of
six
hundred
dollars
per
room,
and
that
would
go
to
support
the
city's
business
inclusion
office,
which
is
housed
in
our
community
and
economic
development
department
contracting
with
minority
women
owned
business
enterprises
is
a
benefit
that
would
occur
during
the
construction
phase
of
a
project
where
we
would
where
the
project
would
have
to
meet
certain
minimum
requirements
for
contracting
with
an
mwbe.
H
Todd
it's
kia.
Yes,
I
just
wondered:
does
that?
Does
that
exclude,
for
example,
mwe
certified
architectural
and
engineering
firms
working
on
the
project.
A
Does
it
exclude
I'd
have
to
take
a
look
at
the
definition,
I'm
not
sure
stacey
or
vadilla
might
be
on
the
line.
If
one
of
you
might
might
be
able
to
pull
up
that
definition.
A
Yeah
and
again,
these
are
these
are
options,
so
it's
the
table
definitely
has
a
lot
of
flexibility
built
into
it,
but
but
not
a
not
a
requirement
to
to
do
any
of
these,
but.
J
If
you'd
like
this
is
vadilla
so
just
to
quickly,
let
you
know
the
definition
for
contracting
with
mwbe
states.
That
means
the
procurement
of
business
services
from
a
company
that
is
at
least
51
percent
only
controlled
by
women
or
minority.
So
that
could
be
for
design
or
construction.
B
And-
and
I
also
just
wanted
to
reiterate
that
we-
you
know-
we
consulted
with
the
staff
of
the
minority
and
business
program
and
got
their
input
on
this.
So
this
was
a
you
know.
These
recommendations
were
derived
with
input
from
the
staff
who
run
those
programs.
A
Thank
you,
vanilla
and
stacy,
so
that
the
third
group
here
includes
other
improvements
related
to
improving
the
neighborhood
and
there's
monetary
contributions,
for
we
define
certain
neighborhood
improvements,
supporting
public
art,
creating
additional
outdoor
public,
plaza
space
and
creating
or
building
public
structured
parking.
A
G
Yes,
I
had
a
question.
I
don't
know
if
it
was
before
just
this
one
is
minus
10
that
there
was
a
discussion
at
the
council
level,
including
urban
renewal
map
and
an
overlay
to
preserve,
to
designate
the
certain
areas
for
future
land
use
is
determined
for
the
future
projects
and
just
asking
about
the.
Why
is
the
map
in
the
draft
for
the
formations
of
the
commission?
Is
it
getting
closer.
A
So
we
we
we
undertook.
Last
year
we
begun
a
staff.
We
worked
with
a
student
from
nc
state
to
to
start
to
map
and
and
research
urban
renewal
areas
within
the
city
and
urban
renewal
properties.
A
A
A
What
we
recommend
is
we
that
we
continue
to
look
at
that
data
and
refine
it
and
understand
that
data,
because
currently
the
the
urban
renewal
map,
as
I
mentioned,
it's
in
very
draft
and
preliminary
form,
there's
a
tremendous
amount
of
research
that
has
happened
and
has
to
happen
to
refine
and
understand
that
data.
But
our
understanding
is
that
the
the
boundaries
that
are
shown
on
that
preliminary
urban
renewal
map
are
more
for
what
the
study
area
was
for
urban
renewal,
but
not
necessarily
that
study
area
doesn't
necessarily
include
all
parcels
or
not.
A
Every
parcel
within
that
study
area
was
either
impacted
or
acquired
via
urban
renewal,
so
we
we
think
we
we
really
need
to
try
to
better
understand
that
map
and
that
data.
The
preliminary
research
shows
that
at
least
along
cox
avenue
we
we,
we
are
still
researching
to
see
if
any
properties
were
acquired
via
urban
renewal.
It
so
far
doesn't
appear.
So
some
of
those
properties
seem
to
occur
on
ashland
avenue
and
then
the
other
area
in
the
urban
room.
A
On
the
urban
renewal
map,
where
there
is
some
overlap
with
the
hotel
overlay
district
is
in
depot
street
area
and
again
we
we
haven't
un
uncovered
yet
any
specific
parcels
that
were
required
by
urban
renewal
and
that's
some
of
the
additional
research
that
we're
we're
currently
in
the
process
of
doing
and
trying
to
to
find
out,
but
but
with
the
exception
of
depot
street
and
and
ashland
avenue
and
cut
in
some
areas
of
cox
avenue.
Those
are
the
only
areas
where
there
was
some
some
overlap
with
that.
G
And
a
college
student,
is
he
engineer
or
professional?
Something
is
just
chosen
by
the
committee.
A
I
I
I
I
didn't
hire
that
person,
I'm
not
sure
what
their
you
know,
what
their
current
credentials
were,
but
we
have
a
number
of
actually
several
departments
that
are
involved
and
were
involved
last
year
on
helping
to
to
to
really
understand
what
the
data
means
in
the
research.
A
If
there's
a
lot
of
records
research
through
through
various
organizations
to
to
try
to
get
that
data
and
understand
it,
but
we
currently
we've
had
the
city
manager's
office
involved
staff
from
our
it
department,
our
planning
department
and
our
community
economic
development
department,
all
involved
in
in
trying
to
work
and
refine
the
map
and
and
the
data
and
understand
that
data.
So
we
have
a
lot
of
people
involved
on
this
effort
right
now,.
H
A
We
we
could
certainly
present
that
to
you
all
and-
and
I
think
that
that
map
as
it's
refined
will
become
a
a
really
useful
tool
for
the
city.
We
could
certainly
come
before
playing
zoning
as
we
as
we
have
a
more
refined
map
to
review
the
the
information
displayed
on
that
map
and
what
it
means.
We're
happy
to
come
back
and
do
that.
C
We
we
also
may
end
up
discussing
this
a
little
bit
later
in
the
agenda
under
the
upcoming
priorities
for
the
commission
or
what
to
recommend
to
city
council.
I
think
it
was
commissioner
archibald
had
added
to
the
the
list
of
items
to
consider
the
a
map
of
the
urban
renewal
areas
so
that
that
will
be
something
that
seems
like
that
is
likely
to
be
worked
on
more
in
this
coming
year.
H
I
just
I
just
feel
that
it
deserves
a
lot
more
in-depth
review,
as
opposed
to
just
a
a
comment.
So
I
I
would
like
to
see
the
development
of
a
future
meeting.
Some
some
feedback
from
the
staff.
C
I
also
in
response
to
mr
hoax's
question
about
the
credentials
of
the
individual
who
was
working
on
that
map.
I
got
a
text
from
another
staff
member
who
said
that
it
was
a
graduate
student
at
nc
state
and
he
was
a
graduate
student
in
their
gis
program.
So
he
does
have
some
some
background
in.
A
That
there's
been
a
lot
of
interest.
You
know
in
this
effort,
as
you
can
imagine
from
the
community,
and
we've
had
several
conversations
with
organizations
like
the
racial
justice
coalition,
so
we
we
agree.
It's
a
very
important
map
that
that
we're
working
on
and
we've
begun
to
look
at
it
to
see
where,
where
over
potential
overlap
is
with.
You
know,
with
this
overlay
map
that
we've
prepared
for
hotels.
F
Todd
just
while
we're
keeping
on
that
is
there
any
or
was
there
any
staff
consideration
of
perhaps
temporarily,
maybe
pulling
out
those
areas
that
are
at
least
initially
identified
like
you
mentioned
the
depot
street
area
and
perhaps
the
cox
avenue
area
from
from
this
hotel
overlay
district,
I
mean,
I
know
the
other
one.
You
know
there's
still
the
south
slope
quarter
study
it's
not
a
quarter
study.
F
That's
south
slope,
visioning
plan
that's
going
on
and
I
wonder
I'm
just
curious
if
that
was
was
discussed
at
all
the
idea
of
just
kind
of
yeah.
Maybe
this
can
get
added
later,
but
maybe
right
now
we
should
pull
it
out.
A
Certainly,
you
know
an
option
for
for
consideration.
You
know
we.
We
really
felt
like
so
far.
The
the
data
that
we
have
is
inconclusive
and
we're
trying
to
understand
and
sort
through
the
data
for
for
urban
renewal
areas,
but
but
certainly
that
that
that
is
an
option
that
that
could
be.
You
know
considered
if,
if
that's
the
direction
of
this
commission.
I
Thanks
going
back
to
the
minority
women
business
enterprise,
could
you
all
please
send
me
some
information
on
that?
I
feel
like
we
didn't
really
get
in
depth
on
that
discussion
as
much
as
I
would
like.
A
A
A
The
first
project
is
the
create
broadway
project
in
downtown
was
a
138
room
hotel
project
under
the
the
proposed
public
benefit
system
that
we
have
largely
due
to
the
displacement
of
businesses
for
this
project.
A
A
The
next
project
is
the
hotel.
Eris
in
downtown
was
a
138
room,
hotel
and
mixed
use
project,
and
this
project
would
have
come
pretty
close.
We
would
have
required
180
points
and
sorry
180
points,
and
this
project
would
have
achieved
170
points,
as
approved
by
council,
so
this
project
would
have
been
again
would
not
have
met
our
public
benefit
threshold
for
points
and
would
have
been
reviewed
automatically
by
council
unless
the
project
included
additional
public
benefits,
above
and
beyond
what
was
approved
as
part
of
the
project.
A
This
was
another
project
that
they
provided
some
up
to
ten
thousand
dollars
for
bus
enhancements
and
for
public
art,
and
ultimately,
this
project
would
have
received
10
points
where
120
points
would
have
been
required.
A
The
other
example
is
the
formerly
known
as
the
extended
stay
on
biltmore
avenue
it's
now.
The
residents
in
this
project
would
have
been
required
to
achieve
120
points,
and
this
project
actually
proposed
benefits
such
as
affordable
housing,
transit
passes
and
some
neighborhood
improvements,
and
this
project
would
have
received
150
points.
So
this
project
would
be
an
example
of
a
project
that
would
have
been
reviewed
and
approved
at
a
staff
level
instead
of
a
city
council
level.
A
The
third
key
element
is
related
to
our
proposed
design,
review
process
and
revising
that
process.
A
What
we
heard
from
council
about
the
design
review
process
is
that
it
was
felt
it
felt
like
we
already
have
a
lot
of
boards
and
commissions
in
the
city.
I
think
we
have
something
like
over
40
boards
and
commissions.
A
A
What
we
also
heard
is
that
existing
commissions
have
expertise
in
geographic
areas
such
as
the
downtown
riverfront,
and
we
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
this
new
design
review
process
took
that
into
consideration.
A
There
was
an
interest
in
having
more
representation
from
existing
commissions
on
a
design
review
body
that
the
existing
design
guidelines
for
the
downtown,
riverfront
need
updating
and,
finally,
there's
an
interest
from
some
council
members
about
potentially
having
city
council,
make
some
appointments
to
the
design
review
body.
A
Our
other
goal
is
to
to
try
to
make
the
process
more
efficient
for
the
design
review
process
that
you
know.
Currently,
we
have
multiple
design
review
bodies
such
as
subcommittees
for
the
downtown
riverfront,
and
that
we
have
an
opportunity
to
to
have
a
more
streamlined
and
more
efficient
process.
A
A
What
staff
is
recommending-
and
this
is
a
change
from
our
recommendation-
our
initial
recommendation
from
last
year-
that
instead
of
creating
a
new
design
review
board,
our
recommendation
now
is
to
combine
the
two
existing
design
review
committees
of
the
asheville
area,
riverfront
redevelopment
commission
and
the
downtown
commission
design
review
subcommittee
into
one
new
committee.
A
The
the
chart
on
the
left
tries
to
demonstrate
what
the
existing
process
is.
So
again,
as
I
mentioned,
the
the
riverfront
commission
and
downtown
commission
today,
both
have
a
subcommittee
that
provides
a
design
review
function.
A
The
commissions
for
the
riverfront
in
downtown
then
vote
on
the
design
of
the
project
and
the
project
type.
Is
that
they're
reviewing
what
we
call
major
works
projects?
These
are
larger
development
projects
in
the
central
business
district
and
in
the
riverfront
areas,
including
larger
hotels
and
residential
and
office
type
type
uses
mixed
use,
buildings
that
are
in
the
downtown
riverfront.
A
Our
recommendation
is
to
again
is
to
combine
the
two
subcommittees
for
downtown
riverfront
into
one
joint
downtown
design.
Review
committee
and
the
committee
would
would
review
continue
to
review
all
of
these
larger
development
projects
in
the
central
business
district
and
in
the
riverfront
area,
with
an
additional
responsibility
of
reviewing
all
hotel
projects
citywide,
and
this
is
a
way
to
try
to
improve
the
design
of
hotels,
not
just
within
the
downtown
riverfront,
but
again
all
hotels
throughout
the
city.
A
This
this
slide
tries
to
demonstrate
what
the
flow
chart
would
look
like
for
this
process.
So
after
staff
reviews
the
application
we
would
we
would
look
at
at
the
design
guidelines.
We
have
new
proposed
design
guidelines
for
hotels
and
we
would
also
again
for
other
land
uses
within
downtown
riverfront,
such
as
office
and
residential
uses.
We
would
look
at
the
current
design
guidelines
for
those
areas
and
see
how
that
project
complies
or
aligns
with
those
guidelines.
A
Staff
would
then
present
to
either
the
downtown
riverfront
commission,
which
is
a
similar
process.
We
have
today
for
projects
that
are
located
within
the
downtown
or
the
riverfront.
So
staff
would
continue
to
present
to
those
commissions
to
solicit
feedback
on
the
the
operation
and
design
of
the
project.
A
We
would
then
take
that
feedback
that
we
received
from
the
downtown
or
riverfront
commission,
and
we
would
enter
that
into
a
report
and
staff
and
the
applicant
would
then
present
the
project
to
this
new
joint
design
review
committee
that
consolidates
those
two
subcommittees
for
the
downtown
and
the
riverfront,
and
then
that
committee
would
be
the
voting
committee
for
the
project
with
the
sole
purpose
of
reviewing
the
design
of
the
project
and
how
that
project
aligns
with
the
design
guidelines
that
are
established.
A
The
other
change,
as
I
mentioned,
is
that
this
joint
design
review
committee
would
review
all
hotels
citywide
in
terms
of
the
membership
of
the
committee
staff
recommends
that
the
committee
would
have
nine
members
that
the
downtown
and
the
riverfront
commission
would
each
designate
four
members
to
serve
on
that
joint
design
review
committee.
A
A
Finally,
the
joint
design
review
committee
would
also
appoint
one
member
as
a
community
member
at
large
and
in
total,
that
would
be
again
would
result
in
nine
members
on
that
joint
design.
Review
committee
in
terms
of
the
qualifications
of
the
the
committee
staff
has
put
together
some
language
that
the
member
should
have
a
special
interest,
experience
or
training
in
architecture
and
or
design
or
planning,
and
what
this
means
is
that
we're
you
know
we're
looking
for
design
professionals,
but
we're
also
ensuring
we
want
to
ensure
that
there's
diverse
representation
on
that
committee.
A
So
the
language
in
here
that
pertains
to
having
a
special
interest
would
would
try
to
to
help
encourage
other
applicants
that
aren't
necessarily
an
architect
or
a
certified
planner,
but
it
could
be
someone
who
has
a
special
interest
in
design
as
well,
and
then
preference
would
be
given
to
persons
with
disabilities,
transit
users
or
seniors
and
again.
This
would
just
be
some
of
the
the
criteria
we
would
look
at
and
some
of
the
qualifications
and
again
some
of
the
outcomes.
A
This
kind
of
relates
back
to
some
of
the
goals
of
the
design
review,
this
new
design
review
process,
but
again
we're
trying
to
strengthen
design
review
throughout
the
city.
We've
created
new
design
guidelines
for
hotels,
we're
expanding
that
review
of
design
of
hotels
to
be
city-wide,
not
just
within
the
downtown
and
riverfront
we're.
A
And
then,
finally,
we
fill
out
this
process
results
in
still
retaining
involvement
from
from
folks
in
the
downtown
riverfront,
because
those
commissions
would
still
be
appointing
members
to
serve
on
this
committee
and
those
commissions
would
still
be
updated
and
they
would
be
able
to
provide
input
on
the
project
that
we
would
then
provide
to
the
design
committee.
A
I
should
mention
for
for
this
new
design
review
process
you
you
have
received
as
part
of
your
packets
comments
from
from
some
members
of
the
downtown
and
riverfront
commissions,
some
of
the
concerns
that
have
been
expressed
about
this
process
from
the
riverfront
perspective.
A
They
they,
the
chair,
was
able
to
poll
members
of
the
riverfront
commission
and
remember
some
members
were
concerned
about,
but
that
by
combining
two
existing
committees
they
would
have
additional
responsibilities
above
and
beyond.
Just
the
one
geographic
area
that
they
review
projects
for
today,
so
members
of
the
committee
would
be
reviewing
projects
not
just
in
the
riverfront
but
also
downtown,
and
then
hotel
citywide.
A
There
was
a
concern
that
that
might
be
too
time
intensive
for
those
for
those
design
professionals.
A
There
was
also
a
concern
with,
I
think,
just
the
overall
process,
or
maybe
a
preference
to
keep
the
process,
as
is
that
that
the
downtown
commission
would
continue
to
review
projects
in
the
downtown
riverfront
commission
would
continue
to
review
projects
for
for
design
in
the
riverfront
and
then
that
a
new
joint
committee
could
be
formed
only
to
review
hotels
that
are
outside
of
those
two
geographic
areas.
So
that
was
a
recommendation
that
was
provided
in
that
feedback.
A
From
from
the
chair
of
the
riverfront
commission,
there
were
a
number
of
other
concerns
again,
provided
you
know
provided
in
your
packet.
What
I
would
say
is
we've
looked
at
a
lot
of
different
options
for
design
review.
It's
a
very
complicated.
It
can
be
a
complicated
process.
A
Our
intent
was
always
to
try
to
align
our
recommendation
with
the
goals
that
we
that
we
established
and
we
really
tried
to
listen
to
feedback
that
we
received
last
year
from
those
commissions
and
tried
to
make
changes
to
ensure
that
those
commissions,
the
downtown
riverfront
commission,
we're
still
involved
in
the
this
process,
and
we've
made
changes
to
ensure
that
there's
representatives
from
those
commissions
that
would
serve
on
this
new
joint
committee
for
for
design
review
this.
A
This
is
a
process
that
we
feel
has
worked
having
one
design
review
body
that
has
worked
well
for
us
for
for
her,
our
historic
resources.
Commission.
As
you
might
be
aware,
we
have
four
local
historic
districts
throughout
the
city.
A
We
don't
have
separate
design
review
bodies
for
each
of
those
districts
as
unique
as
they
might
be,
but
we
have
one
design
review
body,
the
historic
resources
commission
that
that
performs
that
review
for
all
of
those
areas
we
were.
We
were
also
able
to
look
at,
I
believe,
about
10
to
15
cities
throughout
the
southeast,
and
you
know
asheville
is
unique
in
that
we
have
multiple
design
review
bodies,
currently
all
cities
that
we
looked
at
have
one
design
review
body
and
not
multiple
design,
design
review
commissions,
so
we're
comfortable
with
this
process.
A
But
we
also
understand-
and
we
understand-
and
we've
heard-
the
concerns
from
some
members
of
the
downtown
riverfront
commission
and
and
definitely
to
open
to
any
any
feedback
that
you
all
might
have
on
this
process.
A
The
last
item,
I
would
just
repeat
that
some
council
members
expressed
an
interest
in
having
council
appoint
all
or
some
of
the
members
that
might
serve
on
that
joint
committee.
Again.
The
current
process
that
we're
recommending
is
that
the
downtown
riverfront
commission
would
would
be
able
to
appoint
members
to
serve
on
this
committee
so
that
they
would
ensure
that
there
are
folks
serving
on
the
committee
that
have
expertise
and
are
familiar
with.
The
issues
that
are
are
that
they're
experiencing
within
the
downtown
riverfront
areas.
A
H
Todd,
yes,
if
I
might
I'd
like
to,
I
spent
the
afternoon
kind
of
filming
my
thoughts
about
the
design
review.
This
new
design
review
committee-
and
I
read
all
of
the
information
that
that
staff
shared
with
us
about
the
public
responses.
H
I've
been
a
designer
for
over
32
years.
I've
been
a
landscape
architect
for
32
years,
and
I
have
been
involved
in
the
review
of
literally
hundreds
of
projects
in
many
different
commissions
and
boards,
and
the
thing
that
I
like
about
pulling
design
out
of
the
current
process
and
putting
it
in
one
body
is
because
the
language
of
design
which
we,
those
of
my
colleagues
here
who
have
been
to
architecture
school
those
principles,
do
not
change,
and
I
want
to
reiterate
the
design
principles
are
balance
rhythm
emphasis
proportion
and
scale
movement,
contrast
and
unity.
H
It
is
not
engineering
talk,
it
dwells
more
on
the
artistic
side
of
our
our
profession
and
whether
it's
I
I
pulled
out
some
quotes
and
one
of
the
quotes
was.
These
are
very
different.
D
H
Of
expertise
and
issues
correct,
but
those
commissions
will
still
be
dealing
with
policy
and
and
goals
and
so
forth.
This
new
board
would
be
simply
looking
at
design,
as
I
just
stated.
There's
also,
I
pulled
out
a
a
quote
that
says
the
riverfront
commission
has
reviewed
hotel
projects
within
their
jurisdiction,
but
they've
also
reviewed
residential
commercial
park,
open
space
park
and
open
space,
greenways
public
art
and
urban
design.
H
H
So
I
I
like
the
fact
that
you
have
pulled
that
you
are
recommending
that
you're
pulling
members
from
both
the
the
downtown
commission
and
the
riverfront
commission
and
maybe
adding
a
few
more
to
just
get
to
to
to
mix
it
up
a
little
bit
and
and
get
some
special
interest
going,
but
I
really
emphasize
the
the
the
use
of
of
design
professionals,
mostly
because
we
can
speak
the
same
language
when
you
get
a
bunch
of
design
professionals
in
a
room,
and
we
start
going
with
this
stuff.
H
H
We
can
speak
that
same
language,
and
I
I
really
really
believe
that
this
is
the
way
to
go
is
to
combine
all
those
design
functions
under
one
one,
singular
board
or
commission,
and
and
let
us
let
us
work
with
the
the
designer
the
the
project
designer
as
the
downtown
commission.
The
downtown
design
review
commission
does
where
it's
a
back
and
forth
iteration
and
you
end
up
getting
a
much
better
project
out
of.
H
I
Okay,
ask
a
clarified.
Question
guillermo.
I
wanted
to
know
you
mentioned
engineering,
and
I
know
that
there's
a
member
of
the
downtown
commission
river,
you
that
I
believe,
is
a
storm
water
engineer
and
I
feel
like
his
inside
is
pretty
valuable
to
that
reward.
You're.
H
Expertise
that
can
help,
and
one
of
the
things
I'm
glad
you
brought
that
up
really,
because
I
don't
the
several
years
that
I've
been
on
the
planning
commission,
the
fact
that
we
have
architect
engineers,
architects,
all
working
together.
H
Maybe
we
don't
all
know
the
particulars
of
the
materials
that
we
use,
but
we
all
complement
one
another,
and
I
have
learned
so
much
working
with
my
fellow
professionals
that
I
think
the
same
thing
can
happen
in
one
commission
where,
if
you
may
not
have
a
specific
knowledge
of
something,
there's
someone
going
to
be
there.
That
can
jump
in
and
help
you
and
make
us
understand
what
what
that
particular
issue
is.
H
D
Talent,
I
have
a
question
as
it
relates
to
hrc
a
review
that
they
may
have.
Where
is
that
in
the
process?
Is
it
before
the
design
review
committee?
Is
it
early
on?
Is
it
late
in
the
in
the
process.
A
I
I
might
let
stacy
merton,
maybe
speak
to
that
who
was
formerly
managing
that
program
for
us,
but
but
ultimately
the
hrc
reviews
what
we
call
major
work:
applications
in
the
city,
it's
a
very
specific
application
and
I'll.
Maybe
let
stacey
try
to
answer.
B
Yeah,
so
the
hrc
would
do
the
design
review
if
the
project
is
in
a
local
district.
The
design
this
new
committee
would
not,
so
we
actually
had
that
on
one
of
our
slides.
I
think
we
tried
to
simplify
a
little
bit,
but
that
the
hrc
process
would
continue
the
same
as
it
is
for
the
local
districts
and
basically
it
would
be
biltmore
village
in
this
case,
where
the
overlay
does
apply
so
the
hrc,
and
so
it
would
not
go
to
both
design
review
bodies.
B
C
Unless
it's
a
landmark,
if
it's
a
historic
landmark
or
in
a
local
historic
district,
then
our
hrc
would
have
the
jurisdiction
and
they
would
perform
the
design
review.
But
if
you're
in
a
national
district,
you
know
like
say
in
our
downtown
or
some
other
area,
then
then
it
would
be.
This
new
design,
review
body.
D
One
other
question
I
have
as
it
relates
to
the
design
review.
You
had
mentioned
that
the
riverfront
commission
would
still
be
involved
in
the
process
as
a
recommendation
body.
As
a
former
member
of
that,
we
always
con
project
after
the
design
review
group
had
looked
at
it
in
this
process
that
you
set
out.
They
would
be
reviewing
it
before
the
design
review
process.
B
Right:
that's
that's
correct!
We're
trying
to
get
the
input
from
those
commissions
first
so
that
we
can
incorporate
that
into
the
design
review.
B
F
F
F
If
the
residential
density
can
be
increased
up
to
50
units,
an
acre
if
they
do
20
affordable
for
at
80
ami
for
15
years,
but
the
city's
stated
goal
is
20
80
20,
so
it
just
seems
like
that
should
align
that
verbiage.
That
text
should
should
be
similar.
Instead
of
you
know,
this
kind
of
essentially
is
20
80,
15.
F
and
then
also
the
definition
for
affordability.
It
just
says
80
and
again
it
seems
like.
Obviously
it
doesn't
because
the
affordable
that
that
benefits
table
has
it
a
different
percentage-wise,
but
it
seems
like
it
should
be
80
for
20
years
again,
just
kind
of
consistency
over
the
the
course
of
the
city's
goals
for
affordable
housing.
A
H
A
F
Yeah
I
mean
it's
just
yeah
changing
a
couple
numbers
on
the
ex
on
that
benefits
table.
I
I
really
would
applaud
staff
on
this
and
and
all
the
feedback,
obviously
from
different
boards
and
and
groups,
and
and
council
I
mean
you
know,
adding
the
reparations
part,
I
think
is
great
the
part,
the
other
two
affordable
housing
options,
I
think,
are
wonderful.
Having
that
you
know,
option
to
get
actual
for
sale
units
is
good
and
also
having
it
that
fifty
percent
of
the
points
have
to
come
from
that
group
too.
F
I
it
seems
to
me
that,
on
the
group
four,
where
it's
talking
about
you
know
it
has
the
displacement
of
business
or
housing
as
negative
20
points
per
business
or
housing
unit.
It
also
seems
like
and
again
it.
It
may
not
come
up
many
times,
but
it
seems
like
that.
Note
should
also
apply
to
the
demolition
of
a
historic
structure.
In
other
words,
it
that
note
should
just
carry
over
that.
If
you
know
it's
not
just
if
you're
demolishing
four
historic
structures,
it's
negative
40.,
it
should
be
negative
40
for
each
one
of
those.
F
So
maybe
that's
just
again.
Another
clarifying
part
to
it.
I
also
wondered
about
in
that
group
too,
and
this
may
get
a
little
convoluted.
You
know
it
says
like
take,
for
instance,
the
affordable
housing
part.
It
says
that
only
one
of
those
seven
options
could
be
selected
it
it
seems
like
it
would
be
good
if
someone
could
select
one
of
option,
one
through
five
and
then
also
option
six
or
seven
like
you
know.
F
That
would
be
a
wonderful
thing
if
they
did
and
to
provide
that
as
a
maybe
more
incentive
for
the
for
them
to
to
give
more
public
benefit.
And
the
last
comment
I'll
have
on
that
is.
I
think
this
is
a
wonderful
table
and
I
would
love
to
see
it
kind
of
as
a
as
a
blueprint
for
a
lot
of
other
development.
F
I
can
think
of
some
that
we're
probably
going
to
see
in
the
coming
months
that
have
already
created
a
huge
public
stir
where
a
benefits
table
like
this
would
just
be
able
to
say
here
developer.
These
are
the
things
you're
going
to
need
to
meet.
You
know
these
are
the
things
that
we
want
to
start
seeing
so
yeah.
I
think
that
that
to
me
that
public
benefits
table
is
is
is
just
a
huge
win
out
of
this
whole
situation.
A
One
point
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
mr
archer
bald
is
that
for
the
table
you're
right
right
now
we
have
it
structured
where
we're
saying
you
can
only
choose
one
of
the
seven
affordable
housing
options,
but
for
the
the
other
grouping,
it's
for
living
wages
and
b
corp
certification
that
out
of
those
two,
you
can
only
choose
one
of
those.
A
If
you're
gonna
choose
those
options,
but
not
we're
not
saying
that
you
can
only
choose
like
living
wages
or
supporting
minority
women
and
women
own
business
enterprises,
it's
only
the
the
the
either
or
is
the
living
wages
or
b
corp
certification.
I
Yes,
I
do
really
appreciate
the
public
benefit
table
as
well.
I
know
I
keep
harping
on
it,
but
the
mwbe.
The
reason
I
have
an
issue
with
the
weighted
points
is
because
you're
actually
weighing
higher
paying
the
city
600
for
recognition
as
that
designation
for
city
projects
and
hotels
or
not
steady
projects,
so
that
doesn't
really
make
sense
to
me
and
also
I
haven't,
received
any
documentation
or
found
any
on
that
particular
line
item
in
the
table
in
the
documents
on
the
website
and
a
lot
of
that
information
has
been
formulated.
I
You
know
just
as
soon
as
I
started
on
the
planning
board,
so
I
apologize
for
not
being
up
to
date,
but
I
still
don't
think
it
makes
much
sense.
I
think
it
should
be
way
more
for
just
contracting
with
in
wbe
in
the
first
place,.
J
And
I
can
chime
in
for
a
minute
if
you'd
like
me
to
on
that
todd,
we
can
definitely
take
a
look.
It's
it's
true
that
the
supporting
mwbe
doesn't
have
a
lot
of
documentation,
because
that
is
actually
a
program
at
the
city,
that's
being
developed,
and
we
can
try
to
try
to
get
more
information
from
the
program
manager
on
that.
But
the
idea
was
any
developer
is
going
to
have
to
contract
for
services
to
build
the
hotel,
whether
it's
design
or
construction.
J
So
the
incremental
cost
of
choosing
mwbe
services
is
not
significant,
so
they
shouldn't
be
getting
a
significant
number
of
points,
whereas,
if
you're
contributing
the
six
hundred
dollars
per
room
to
a
new
city
program
to
further
support,
mwbe
business
growth
and
a
pr
and
that
program
that
that
that
is
a
gets
more
points,
because
it's
not
something
inherent
to
hotel
development.
A
And
just
to
add
to
that,
I
think
with
some
recent
conditional
zoning
applications
contracting
with
mwbe
has
be
has
to
me.
It
seems
like
it's
becoming
more
of
a
standard.
A
You
know,
rather
than
an
exception,
that
it's
something
that
some
of
these
new
development
applications
that
are
being
approved
by
council
are
are
starting
to
incorporate
that
into
their
their.
D
Recommendations
did
we
include
or
modify
it
from
a
previous
comment,
I
made
that
necessarily
a
a
bus
pass
if
they
provided
some
form
of
transportation
for
their
employees
that
the
company
would
take
care
of,
but
that
would
qualify
as
a
as
one
of
the
transit
benefits.
A
Yes,
the
the
transit
benefit
means
that
it's
we
define
it
as
an
employer-procured,
actual
transit
system
pass
or
other
relevant
employer-provided
transportation
is
offered
to
all
employees
at
no
expense.
E
So,
what
what
would
that
be?
Besides
the
transit
pass.
F
Okay,
I
I've
kind
of
seen
that
as
more
the
you
know,
like
hey,
we'll
pick
up,
you
who's,
paying
us
a
lot
of
money
at
the
airport
or
something
but
yeah,
not
necessarily
the
employee.
F
Shuttle,
I
think
the
only
other
recommendation
I
would
have
is
is
going
back
to
that
discussion.
We
had
about
the
urban
renewal
map
and
in
those
areas,
would
be
to
kind
of
look
at
pulling
those
sections
out
pulling
out
the
sections
where
the
current,
whatever
you
want
to
call
it
proposed
in
in
process
urban
renewal
map
overlay
with
the
hotel
overlay
district
map
pulling
those
areas
out
of
the
hotel
overlay
district
map.
You
know,
like
you,
mentioned
todd
that
one
specifically
on
depot
street.
F
That's
always
that
little
leg
that
runs
down
depot
that's
in
orange
is
always
just
seemed
a
bit
odd.
To
me
I
mean
I
realize
that
part
of
that
incorporates
is
the
glenn
rock,
but
that's
apartments
now
so.
F
F
But
otherwise,
again,
thanks
to
staff.
I
know
you
guys
have
put
a
lot
of
work
into
this
and
I
think
it
really-
you
know
hopefully
the
the
community
and
the
public
will
feel
a
lot
better
about
this.
Moving
forward.
C
Before
we
entertain
a
motion,
if
there
isn't
any
more
discussion
and
before
we
entertain
a
motion
for
a
recess,
I
just
want
to
clarify
with
todd
and
stacy.
Did
you
guys
intend
to
present
also
on
the
overlay
map
separately,
or
was
that
I
know
todd
sort
of
touched
on
that
in
his
presentation?
C
No,
I
don't
think
it's
necessary.
I
think
the
commission
could
even
potentially
recess
both
items
at
the
same
time
if
they
so
chose
to
do
that.
When
it
comes
time
to
vote,
we
will
vote
on
them
separately,
but
I
think,
to
recess.
I
don't
think
that
that
would
necessarily
be
a
problem.
I
janice
can
correct
me
if
that's
not
a
good
idea,
but
I
think
it
would
be
fine.
D
Time
I
would
have
one
question
about
the
overlay
map
and
that
is:
did
you
follow
tax
parcels
or
common
ownership
in
in
drawing
those
lines?
So
there's
no
split
parcels
that
half
of
it
might
be
zoned
overlay
and
half
not.
D
That
that
was
my
follow-up.
If
you
will
that
you
know
you
may
have
one
piece,
you
may
have
a
parcel
that
fronts
on
say
tunnel
road,
but
you
have
another
parcel
behind
it:
common
ownership
that
the
two
of
them
together
would
make
a
commercial
parcel.
B
B
C
C
So
if
it's
I
I
I
couldn't,
I
couldn't
guarantee
this
of
course,
but
I
suspect
there
isn't
a
lot
if
any
of
the
situation
you
describe
but.
F
C
C
B
And
if
I
mean
we
didn't
get
any
comments
from
anyone
about
that,
so
not
to
say
that
there
aren't
any
that
are
out
there,
but
we
didn't
receive
any
comments
of
anyone
asking
for
an
adjacent
parcel
to
be
included
because
it
was
in
joint
ownership
or
also
you
know.
That
person
also
owned
a
parcel
that
was
in
the
overlay.
A
I
A
Thing
I
want
to
mention
too,
because
I
think
this
is
this
is
a
really
helpful
section
in
the
ordinance
is
starting
on
page
two
of
the
hotel
development
regulations
is
where
we
we
have
all
these
new
definitions
that,
where
some
of
them
align
with
language
that
you'll
see
in
the
public
benefits
table.
So
that's
where
we
were
referencing
some
of
the
definitions
we
have
like
what
is
contracting
with
minority
and
women-owned
business
enterprises
mean
or
what
does
displacement
mean?
A
E
I'd
like
to
make
a
couple
other
comments
before
you
start
go
ahead,
based
on
my
past
work
with
developers,
hotel
developers
included
as
well
as
attending
some
of
the
early
meetings
on
this
topic.
E
I
think
that
the
ordinance
does
a
good
job
of
providing
clarity,
because
I
think
one
of
the
comments
that
I
frequently
heard
from
developers
was
just
the
the
unknown
of
of
trying
to
come
into
if
they're
not
from
here
many
are
from
here.
So
I
should
clarify
that.
But
if
they're
coming
to
asheville
and
they're
not
familiar
with
the
ordinance,
they
they
didn't
know
what
they
needed
to
do
in
order
to
carry
the
project
forward.
E
I
think
there's
an
opportunity
under
transportation
benefit
or
benefits,
to
expand
that
and
maybe
clarify
it.
You
know,
transit
passes
are
a
start,
but
I
think
there's
there's
some
wider
opportunity
there
to
do
something.
As
we
all
know
with
just
about
every
development
project
that
comes
before
us,
the
opposition
almost
uniformly
includes
transportation
concerns
and
if,
if
we
can
incorporate
requirements
for
other
forms
of
transportation
or
something
that
addresses
that
issue,
I
think
we
begin
to
whittle
away
at
the
transportation
problems
we
have
in
the
city
and
certainly
ours,
don't
compare
to.
E
You
know
places
like
los
angeles
and
houston,
but
they're
growing
and
they're.
Obviously
a
major
concern
for
everybody
and
with
that
I'll
turn
it
back
over
to
you,
joe.
F
F
F
You
know
direct
payment
and
again
that
that
transportation
option
or
you
know
in
the
benefits
table
could
expand,
and
you
know
I
think
I
didn't
mention
this
before,
but
I
will
make
this
the
last
comment.
I
I
would
hope
that
this
is
kind
of
more
of
a
living
document
that
it's
not
just.
F
We
don't
look
at
this
public
benefits
table
for
10
more
years
until
people
you
know
kind
of
get
fed
up
with
hotels
again
that
it's
kind
of
maybe
not
every
year,
but
maybe
for
the
first
couple
years.
It
needs
to
be,
but
it's
some
there's
some
regular
at
least
like
cursory.
Does
this
make
sense?
Is
it
working?
Are
we
seeing
these
hotels
if
the
hotels
start
coming
through
and
they're,
hitting
300
or
400
points?
We
need
to
kick
it
up
like
we
need
to
just
like
make
it
harder.
F
You
know
just
kind
of
keep
inching
this
whole
thing
up
and
up
so
but
yeah.
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
to
recess
until
our
next
meeting
on
friday
february
5th
the
consideration
for
the
zoning
text
amendment
and
also
the
zoning
map
amendment
for
the
hotel
overlay
district.
I
G
E
C
G
C
So,
as
mr
houser
has
indicated,
this
is
a
what
we
call
an
initial
zoning
designation,
not
a
rezoning
and
it's
for
a
portion
of
the
property.
That's
outlined
in
red
here
on
the
exhibit
b
map,
and
you
can
see
the
context.
It
is
a
parcel.
That's
located
off
of
oak
hill
drive
and
circle
and
more
crest
road.
It
has
the
address
of
nine
nine,
nine,
nine
nine
more
crests,
and
that
is
because,
of
course,
it's
undeveloped
properties.
So
this
particular
parcel,
I
think,
is
a
little
over
an
acre.
C
The
property
owner
boonville
properties
also
owns
the
parcel.
That's
directly
adjacent
to
the
east,
which
is
a
smaller
parcel.
All
of
the
property
to
the
east
is
inside
the
city
limits,
but
about
a
half
acre
of
the
subject.
Property
is
located
outside
the
city
limits.
The
property
owner
is
interested
in
building
a
a
small.
I
think
10
to
12
lot
single-family
subdivision
and
would
like
to
have
all
of
the
lots
within
that
subdivision
served
by
city
services.
C
So
the
request
for
annexation
is
moving
forward
on
a
separate
track
and
when
it
arrives
at
city
council,
we
will
also
once
if
the
if
council
should
approve
the
annexation,
then
we
would
recommend
a
zoning
designation
for
that
property.
So
so
that's
where
the
commission
comes
in,
we
would
like
the
commission's
recommendation
to
zone
that
portion
of
the
property.
C
We
would
like
to
if
we're
successful
in
annexing
the
property
change
that
would
have
the
effect
of
changing
the
jurisdictional
boundary.
So
it'll
move
from
sharing
the
same
line
as
that
blue
line
along
the
north
edge,
and
it
will
shift
it
up
to
wrap
around
that
little
half
acre
piece
and
so
we'd
like
to
zone
that
rm16
as
well
to
go
with
to
match
the
rest
of
the
surrounding
property.
C
C
C
The
steps,
as
I
mentioned,
the
commission
would
make
a
final
vote
on
this
initial
zoning
in
february
the
resolution
to
set
the
public
hearing.
It's
a
two-step
process
at
city
council.
You
have
to
first
adopt
a
resolution
to
set
a
public
hearing,
and
then
you
have
to
conduct
the
public
hearing
and
under
our
remote
meeting
laws.
That
public
hearing
is
two
steps
just
like
it
is
with
the
commission.
C
So
the
resolution
is
to
be
heard
february.
9Th
the
public
hearing
is
tentatively
scheduled
for
the
23rd
and
then,
of
course,
the
council
vote
would
occur
later
in
march.
So
it's
it's
that
february,
23rd
and
march
9th
meeting
that
the
initial
zoning
would
also
occur,
and
that
would
happen
after
the
council
votes
on
the
annexation.
C
F
This
is
more
of
a
comment,
shannon
and
kind
of
more
of
a
comment
just
so
it
goes
in
public
record
for
anybody
that
may
be
watching.
It
is
unlikely.
Excuse
me
that
this
commission
would
see
any
development
proposal
for
that
may
come
forward
for
that,
because
it's
not
going
to
meet
any
thresholds
correct.
C
C
I
probably
should
have
mentioned
that
the
r3
designation
that
buncombe
county
currently
has
assigned
to
that
portion
of
the
property
is
their
higher
density
residential
district.
So
it
does
allow
higher
density
multifamily
similar
to
the
rm16,
so
we
felt
like
that
was
relatively
consistent
and,
of
course,
it
matches
the
balance
of
the
property
that
it
belongs
to.
F
And
I
might
as
well
go
three
for
three.
If
there's
no
other
comments
to
move
to
recess
this
one.
G
I
E
E
C
And
if
it's
helpful,
I
put
this
together
at
the
last
minute
and
I
will
go
ahead
and
share
this
with
the
commission.
E
C
Okay,
so
this
is
what
was.
This
is
sort
of
a
an
edited
version
of
what
had
been
included
in
the
annual
port
to
city
council
last
year.
So
I
shared
most
of
this
with
you
guys
previously
saying.
Well,
it's
that
time
of
year
again
to
start
to
look
at
these
recommendations
and
just
kind
of
focus,
the
interest
of
the
commission
in
the
coming
year,
the
council
will
be
meeting
I
believe
february.
Todd
is
that
correct
late
february.
A
Sorry
yeah
you're
talking
about
the
council.
A
That's
happening
on
february
15th
and
16th.
C
Yeah,
so
the
city
clerk
usually
reaches
out
to
the
commissions
and
asks
you
know:
do
you
have
any
thoughts
you'd
like
to
share
with
the
the
council,
and
we
always
like
to
take
that
opportunity
to
to
kind
of
emphasize
some
priorities
in
the
coming
year?
So
that's
what
we're
kind
of
looking
at
based
on
some
of
the
feedback
that
I
got
from
commissioners,
I've
kind
of
edited
this.
This
was
the
the
text
that
was,
as
I
mentioned,
provided
in
the
annual
port
last
year.
C
C
Joe
you
mentioned,
and
mr
hoak
mentioned,
the
the
map
for
the
urban
renewal
areas
sounds
like
work
has
already.
C
You
know
started
on
that,
so
I
put
that
under
this
kind
of
what
we
expect
to
come
before
the
commission
in
the
coming
year,
as
opposed
to
these
recommendations
that
we
want
council
to
study
and
devote
more
resources
to.
So
that's
why
I
put
it
in
that
category,
but
I
I
kind
of
defer
to
the
commission
to
really
decide
how
they
want
this
represented
and
where
do
you
think
it
best
falls
and
then
below
the
2021
recommendations
to
counsel
on
needed
studies
and
resources?
C
Again,
this
is
you
know
more
or
less
clipped
from
what
was
in
the
report
last
year,
but
I
added
some
of
the
things
that
commissioners
had
just
emailed
me
back
on
when
I
first
sent
this
out
so
kim
had
recommended,
in
addition
to
looking
at
downtown
design
requirements
that
we
also
look
at
the
river
district
design
requirements
and
then
joe,
I
think,
added
a
couple
items
about
working
with
buncombe
county
as
they
undertake
their
comprehensive
planning
process
and
look
to
you
know
potentially
update
some
of
their
development
regulations
and
then
also
something
about
affordable
making,
affordable
housing
a
priority.
C
So
this
is
just
an
opportunity
to
discuss
amongst
the
commissioners
and
I,
whatever
your
feedback
is,
we
can
add
it
to
this
list.
We
can
remove
it
from
the
list
and
add
it
to
the
report
and
share
it
with
councils.
So
it's
it's
not
a
something.
That's
set
in
stone,
it's
not
as
though,
if
six
months
from
now
something
really
important
comes
up,
that
we
can't
kind
of
shift
our
focus.
C
I
C
I
think
well,
we
can.
We
can
play
with
the
wording
of
it
if
it's
something
you
all
want
to
consider,
but-
and
I
will
also
comment
on
that-
but
then,
if,
if
joe
would
like
to
elaborate-
because
this
was
one
of
his
comments-
I
I
think
you
know
affordable
housing
is
always
a
priority.
C
It's
it
is
in
our
comprehensive
plan,
but
I
think
this
this
is
basically
sending
the
council
a
message
that
you
think
it's
among
the
highest
priorities
and
whatever
we
can
do
to
look
at
ways
to
try
to
you
know
include
some
affordable
housing
and
some
of
these
larger
scale
development
plans
that
this
is
something
that
the
commission
might
like
to
explore.
So
joe
did
I
capture
that.
Would
you
like
to
elaborate
further.
F
Sure
so
it's
partially
it
is
that
it's
the
you
know.
Council
knows
it
is
a
priority.
So
it's
not
necessarily
a
recommendation
to
counsel
it's
perhaps
more
encouragement
to
counsel,
but
it
also
is
is
an
encouragement
to
my
fellow
commissioners
and-
and
I
don't
want
to
name
projects,
but
I
think
some
people
on
this
commission.
F
Some
of
my
fellow
commissioners
know
some
of
the
projects
that
are
likely
to
be
coming
down
the
pipe,
maybe
this
year,
certainly
in
the
next
within
the
next
say,
18
months,
and
I
think
it's,
it
would
be
my
saying
what
I
put
down.
There
is
kind
of
my
encouragement
that
you
know
all
of
us
need
to
really
look
at
this
as
we
review
those
larger
scale
developments,
and
I
know,
there's
going
to
be
public
pushback,
but
we
really
need
to
start
weighing.
F
What
is
this
doing
to
to
get
to
some
of
these
goals
that
the
city
has
that
council
has
said
we
want
to
meet
that.
You
know
planning
staff
that
this
commission
and
previous
you
know,
planning
and
zoning
commissions
have
said-
are
priorities
and
we
really
need
to
kind
of
just
keep
those
things
in
in
the
forefront.
So
it's
it's
almost
more
about
that
than
it
is
about
telling
council
to
do
more.
Secondarily
to
that,
though,
it's
it's
interesting.
F
You
know,
I
know
right
now,
there's
kind
of
that
you
can
really
only
have
three
dwelling
units
per
property.
That's
a
dsd
thing
I.e.
You
could
have
a
duplex
in
an
adu,
but
you
can't
necessarily
have
a
a
house,
an
attached,
adu
and
a
detached
adu
like
that.
Doesn't
they
won't?
Really?
I
don't
think
you
can
do
that.
So
there
may
be
some
other
creative
things
as
we
move
forward
that
we
can
look
at
to
to
increase
options.
A
C
F
That's
really
an
example.
I
mean,
I
think,
there's
multiple,
you
know
another
another
thing
that
comes
to
mind
is
the
the
tiny
home
development.
You
know
that
was
coming
that
drew
had
brought
for
east
asheville,
and
I
know
there
was
some.
You
know
that
went
through
a
couple
iterations
of
trying
to
find
the
right
zoning
to
make
it
and
other
things.
So
I
I
just,
I
think
they're
and
I
don't
know
exactly
how
it
needs
to
be
done
again.
Perhaps
it
falls
under
that
number
five.
F
You
just
had
up
there,
the
rewrite
of
the
udo
that
may
take
care
of
a
lot
of
these
things
that
that
free
up
some
of
the
constraints
that
currently
exist
to
being
able
to
have
alternative
housing,
typologies
that
missing
middle,
that
the
dell
is
always
talking
about.
C
F
C
C
All
of
those
things
I
mean,
I
think
it's
sorry
kim,
I
gotta
mute
you
for
some
reason.
You
get
a
feedback
when
you're
unmuted
it's
you
know.
I
think
it's
something
that
can
inform
deliberation
and
discussion
amongst
the
commissioners
during
specific
development
review
projects,
it's
something
that
we
could
highlight
and
discuss
in
more
detail
and
really
kind
of
do
a
deeper
dive
during
a
retreat,
and
it's
something
that
we
communicate
to
council
as
being
a
priority.
C
C
I
think
this
is
a
topic
that
we
could
try,
certainly
explore
the
idea
of
doing
like
a
remote
retreat
like
not
an
all-day
retreat,
like
maybe
a
half
day,
or
something
like
that
and
kind
of
round
up
some
materials
and
some
information
and
kind
of
get
into
that,
or
we
could
wait
until
later
in
the
year
and
see
if
we
want
to
try
to
do
an
in-person
retreat
if
things
improve.
C
I
don't
know
that
we
have
to
decide
that
tonight,
but
maybe
it's
something
you
guys
can
think
about
in
addition
to
the
equity
and
zoning,
if
there
are
other
very
specific
topics
you
would
like
to
cover,
you
know,
let
us
know,
and
we
will
try
to
put
something
together.