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From YouTube: Reparations Commission – April 24, 2023
Description
Regular meeting of the City of Asheville Community Reparations Commission.
Access the agenda and other meeting materials at the City of Asheville website: https://www.ashevillenc.gov/department/city-clerk/boards-and-commissions/reparations-commission/
Participate before and during the meeting on our public engagement hub: https://publicinput.com/X5652
A
A
That
would
be
a
problem
at
this
stage
in
the
game,
though,
we
are
halfway
through
and
your
conversation
should
be
loaded
and
very
fruitful,
we're
hoping
to
provide
an
opportunity
for
you
to
be
informal
and
conversing
with
each
other
over
a
day's
setting
and
possibly,
and
so
we'll
keep
you
up
informed
on
that
of
date
and
place
and
time-
and
you
might
get
a
note
for
me
personally
regarding
some
some
other
kinds
of
forms
of
input,
but
right
now
what
I'm
getting
and,
from
my
absence
I'd
like
to
say
to
you,
you
may
not
be
aware
of
each
other's
responses,
and
so
it
was
enough
for
me
to
say
to
you
thank
you
for
the
support
and
condolences,
I
appreciate
it.
A
It
was
a
tough
month
and
many
of
you
came
by
the
house,
you
emailed
me
and
I
appreciate
it.
It
did
help
seriously
being
part
of
the
community
matters
and
in
terms
of
that,
what
I
found
as
you
made
contact
with
me,
several
of
you
all,
talked
to
me
about
time
and
time
and
then
showed
signs
and
tensions
that
may
have
erupted.
These.
B
A
So
if
you're
looking
at
in
in
dates,
that's
what
they're
looking
for,
and
so
this
is
what
my
chart
remind
you
of
we
started
at
the
end.
We
started
with
the
disparity
studies
regarding
five
public
policy
areas.
This
is
where
the
ifas
are
divided
on,
but
let
me
remind
you
City
and
the
county
apologize
and
charged
us
with
also
offering
recommendations
reparations
regarding
enslavement,
segregation,
invention,
mass
incarceration
and
urban
renewal
were
all
explicitly
stated
in
the
resolutions
passed
by
the
city
of
County.
We
need
to
think
about
those
and
talk
about
how
to
approach
them.
A
A
C
All
right,
Dwayne,
Barton,
Norma
Maine
here
Renata
Conyers,
yeah.
D
A
C
I
hope
everybody
had
a
chance
to
review
our
meet
our
meeting
minutes
from
March
20th
meeting,
and
so
I
would
like
to
approve
the
agenda,
as
is
unless
anyone
has
any
changes
that
they
were
like
same
made
so
moved.
Second.
E
Thank
you
good
evening.
Everyone
I'm
Christine,
Edwards
I,
am
the
project
manager
for
the
community.
Reparations
commission
happy
to
be
here
once
again
with.
E
I
wanted
to
just
go
over
really
quickly.
The
survey
response
data
from
the
March
20th
meeting.
You
know
you
all,
hopefully,
you've
had
a
chance
to
read
these
responses.
What
I'll
do
is
just
read
through
a
couple
of
the
suggestions
just
to
let
you
know
that
we
are
mindful
of
your
suggestions.
A
lot
of
folks
have
commented
on
sharing
the
IFA
update
and
really
appreciating
having
that
IFA
update
shared
at
every
meeting.
E
Also,
there
were
some
comments
about
making
sure
that
we
have
enough
time
for
our
speaker,
so
that
is
something
that
we
have
taken
into
consideration
as
well,
and
really
just
some
comments
about
just
timing
and
just
making
sure
that
we're
spacing
out
the
meeting
appropriately.
So
we
did
have
17
service
responses,
our
doors
and
our
emails
remain
open.
So
we
we
do,
encourage
you
to
to
send
your
feedback
and
we
want
to
let
you
know
that
we
are
incorporating
your
feedback.
Any
questions.
E
E
So
as
a
reminder,
so
as
a
reminder,
so
during
these
updates
we
have
15
minutes
for
each
IFA,
spokesperson
and
group
to
present
their
update
also
with
the
housing
and
the
criminal
justice
Isa.
Her
group
has
submitted
some
additional
documentation,
so
that
has
been
provided
in
their
meeting
package.
So
if
you
want
to
read
further
along,
she
has
provided
that,
for
you
also
I'm
going
to
be
keeping
time,
and
this
is
just
a
way
just
to
keep
our
meeting
on
track.
E
So
when
you
are
nearing
the
two
minute
Mark
two
minutes
left
I'll
put
up
this
sign.
That
says
two
minute
warning
and
then,
when
the
time
is
up,
I'll
put
up
this
sign.
That
says
time
is
up,
but
but
don't
worry
because
after
each
IFA
presents,
we
have
an
additional
15
minutes
just
for
a
follow-up
discussion
and
questions.
So
please
do
write
your
questions
down.
E
I'm
going
to
pass
out
some
comment
cards
make
sure
you
you
know
hold
on
to
those
questions,
so
you
can
ask
them
in
the
the
discussion
period
I'm
going
to
start
my
timer
now.
H
H
G
G
I
feel
like
I
lost
my
mic.
If
that
was
my
mic,
yeah,
okay,
all
right
great.
So
what
I
want
to
say
starting
off
is
the
housing.
Ifa
is
really
putting
in
the
work.
This
is
a
dynamic
group,
they're
passionate
about
what
they're
doing
they're
passionate
about
the
recommendations
that
we're
working
on
and
I
just
wanted
to
applaud
them
for
the
great
work
that
they're
putting
in
they
are
working
hard.
G
So
we
have
we
meet
on
the
second
and
third
Tuesday
of
every
month
at
the
grant
center
from
six
to
eight
there's
two
members
that
I,
don't
think
I
think
there's
one
member
who
might
not
know.
F
G
We
want
to
stop
gentrification
in
Black
communities
and
we're
looking
at
the
lack
of
competent.
Let
me
say
that
again
competent
financial
literacy
programs
for
black
people,
one
of
the
recommendations
that
we've
come
up
with
and
I
think
you
all
are
familiar
with.
That
is
immediately
return.
All
urban
renewal
land
that
is
being
held
in
moratorium
by
the
city
of
Asheville
to
be
placed
aside
for
reparations.
This
is
a
little
different
than
our
initial
recommendation
that
we
came
out
with
which
just
was
to
return
the
land
to
black
people.
G
Now
we're
saying
immediately
return
the
return,
the
land
to
black
folks.
Our
second
recommendation
that
we're
looking
at
is
explore
the
acquisition
of
underutilized
and
vacant
land
so
that
it
will
be
returned
in
lieu
of
urban
renewal
land
that
was
taken
from
the
black
community
and
our
third
is
create
a
land
acquisition
program
that
required
at
a
minimum.
The
amount
of
acreage
that
was
taken
from
black
people
during
urban
renewal,
so
we're
saying
yes,
we
want
the
urban
renewal
land
back,
but
we
also
want.
However
much
name:
you
took
their
urban
renewal.
We.
E
To
the
next
one
there
you
go
all
right.
G
Okay,
so
I
stopped
at
our
recommendation
overview
and
it
doesn't
have
all
the
information
up
there
that
I
just
read
to
you
all,
but
the
document
that
I
created
that
has
to
be
a
different
additional
information.
All
of
that
is
contained
in
there,
so
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
Babette.
So
she
can
talk
about
the
IFA
over
that
she's.
Looking
at
me,
like
she
didn't
know
that
was
coming.
I
I
Health,
healthy
homes
promote
good
physical
and
mental
health.
Good
health
depends
on
having
homes
that
are
safe
and
free
from
physical
hazards.
In
contrast,
poor
quality
and
inadequate
housing
contributes
to
the
health
problems
such
as
chronic
disease
and
injuries
and
cabinet
harmful
effects
on
childhood
development.
I
To
it
says,
long-term,
stable,
well,
resource
housing
is
an
absolute
necessity
for
all
people.
It
is
particularly
important
for
black
people
with
criminal
records
and
their
families.
Given
the
barriers,
these
records
create
the
neighborhoods
that
people
return
home
to
after
prison
are
often
the
same
neighborhoods.
K
I
The
trauma
that
results
from
a
lack
of
public
goods
and
service,
including
safe,
affordable
housing,
Economic
Development,
home
ownership,
allows
households
to
accumulate
wealth,
create
General,
generally
wealth
equity
in
a
home
and
social
status,
and
this
is
the
basis
for
a
number
of
positive
social,
economic,
family
and
Civic
outcomes.
Two-Thirds
of
all
U.S
households
who
own
their
homes
currently
are
enjoying
these
benefits.
G
Thank
you
so
I
would
like
to
add
about
the
community
buy-in
and
the
community
engagement
that
we're
doing
in
our
IFA.
So
we
did
have
a
collaborative
session
with
the
RJC
and
my
shout
out
to
the
RJC,
if
anyone's
here
for
the
hard
work
that
they
put
in
for
this
event
on
April
the
15th,
it
was
awesome.
What
we
found
is
a
lot
of
what
we're
speaking
about
in
the
housing
IFA
mirrors.
G
What
community
is
feeling
so
I
believe
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
I
believe
I
may
have
shared
notes
from
that
and
if
I
didn't
I
can
share
notes
from
that.
The
recommendation
about
immediately
returning
urban
renewal
property
came
from
that
meeting.
So
what
we
were
hearing
is.
G
Tired
of
talking-
let's
do
something.
So
if
we
want
to
see
that
the
city
and
the
county
is
serious
about
the
work
that
we're
doing
in
reparations,
we're
going
to
ask
that
they
return
that
land
immediately.
What
we
did
after
the
meeting
is
I
sent
over
the
recommendations
to
both
Branham
and
Michael
frug
to
take
a
look
at
them
and
they
did
provide
some
feedback.
They
didn't
say
no,
which
is
good.
Thank
you,
gentlemen.
They
didn't
say
no,
but
they
did
say
that
you
know
there's
some
questions
and
there's
some
concerns,
but.
F
G
Are
optimistic
because
we're
not
going
to
take
no
for
an
answer,
we're
still
going
to
put
those
recommendations
through
and
I
believe
that
we
have
some
some
valid
rapper
workarounds
when
it
comes
to
this,
so
that
completes
our
presentation
for
the
housing
IFA.
Does
anyone
have
any
questions.
K
Yes,
I
can
appreciate
that
you
mentioned
that
you're
working
with
different
neighborhoods,
but
being
aware
that
many
of
the
legacy
of
communities
in
particular
are
working
on
their
2025
2035
plan
and
always
knowing
what
the
right
hand
is
doing.
In
the
left
hand,
are
you
checking
with
that,
because
many
communities
have
their
wording
and
what
they
want,
and
it
would
be
I
think
a
wise
idea
to
check
with
all
five
Legacy
communities
to
get
their
input
right.
G
That's
a
that's
great
I
know
that
Babette
by
The,
Who
you're
reading
the
Shiloh
right
right
in
some
town
and
having
conversations
around
that
we
have
not
met
with
other
Legacy
neighborhoods,
but
we
will
put
that
on
our
list
to
be
able
to
get
feedback
from
them
as
well.
So
thank
you
for.
L
G
F
M
H
N
Maybe
the
chair
can
help
us
with
this.
We
may
need
to
go
back
and
add
Northside.
L
G
You
all
just
kind
of
say
your
names
as
you
speak,
so
that
we'll
know
I'm
doing
this
for
the
meeting
minutes.
If
you
can
just
say
your
name
as
you
speak,.
F
O
Question
is:
have
you
all
began
to
discuss
who
the
land
will
be
given
back
to
will
be
given
to
the
original
landowners,
or
have
you
considered
other
possibilities
so.
G
I'm
gonna
I'll
start
and
then
I'll,
let
Mr
Richardson
finish
it
off
for
me.
So
we've
had
conversations
one
of
the
questions
that
came
about
in
the
meeting
or
the
community
engagement
meeting
on
April.
The
15th
is
when
the
land
is
given
back.
Where
would
it
who's
going
to
hold
that
right?
Which
is
not
conversations
that
we've
been
having,
but
we're
starting
to
have
those
conversations
now
because
we
do
want
to?
We
do
want
to
figure
that
out.
G
What
we
understand
is
the
land
that
we're
asking
for
right
now
is
being
held
in
moratorium
with
the
city,
and
so
we've
asked
the
city
or
we're
going
to
ask
the
city
to
place
that
land
aside
for
reparations
now
who's
going
to
hold
that
we've
talked
about,
maybe
there's
the
creation
of
a
non-profit.
That
does
that.
Maybe
it's
conversation
with
rsaa
and
seeing
you
know
if
that's
something
that
they
can
do.
There
was
the
actual
Buncombe
City,
no
Asheville
Buncombe
Community
Land
Trust.
Thank
you
looking
into
that.
G
But
there
was
concerns
about
that,
because
when
you
do
that
with
abc2
abclt,
they
hold
the
land,
so
you
don't
own
the
land.
You
just
own
the
property,
so
definitely
having
conversations
we're
starting
conversations
on
that
and
we'll
be
speaking
on
that
in
our
next
our
next
meetings.
Thank
you.
You're
welcome,.
F
Was
there
discussion?
What's
your.
A
G
Next
month
we
will
be.
We
will
be
discussing
that,
so
there
was
what
came
up
as
definitely
around
seniors
and
them
not
having
to
pay
property
taxes
and
I
I.
G
Correct
me,
if
I'm
wrong
about
the
conversation
that
we
kind
of
had
and
Michael
fruit
was
in
the
the
room
with
us
at
that
meeting
about
the
fact
that
the
city
and
the
county
does
not
pay
taxes
right.
So
is
there
a
way
for
us
to
come
up
with
a
program
where
the
city
and
the
county
could
be
or
the
county
could
be
put
on
the
deed
of
homes
owned
by
black
people
right,
so
they
don't
have
to
pay
taxes
and
then,
when
they
get
ready
to
sell
the
homes,
they're
pulled
off
the
deed.
G
A
G
Yes,
so
one
of
the
things
that
we
talked
about
is
underutilized
land.
So
one
question
came
up
during
that
meeting
was
builtmore
I,
guess,
force
right,
Biltmore
force
and
taking
that
land
back
for
Shiloh,
okay,
we're
getting
close
and
they're
a
Township.
G
So
that's
not
something
that
can
be
taken
back
from
our
understanding
right,
but
we're
looking
at
underutilized
land
if
there's
any
property,
that's
currently
under
underutilized
by
the
city
or
the
county,
and
seeing
if
we
can
get
that
that
land
back
and
also
again
land
is
not
urban
renewal
land,
because
we
want
the
amount
of
Acres
that
was
taken
that
amount
to
be
given
back
and
in
interest
as
possible.
So
you're.
F
Q
N
Quickly,
it
has
come
to
the
attention
of
everyone.
I'm
sure
you
all
are
aware
that
a
lot
of
the
land
that
was
taken
by
urban
renewal
and
that
remains
unused
is
small
plants
that
are
less
than
hat
Baker
in
some
cases
less
than
a
quarter
acre,
even
though
they
are
small
in
nature.
I
think
that
each
of
the
five
focus
groups
could
make
use
of
those
small
plats.
If,
for
example,
the
wellness
IFA
wanted
to
do
a
some
sort
of
Wellness
Center
on
one
that
was
a
small
building
and.
F
C
F
G
G
It
was
gonna
be
good,
though
again,
I
want
to
apply
the
hard
work
that
is
being
put
in
to
are.
G
Are
there
any
other
of
our
criminal
justice,
IFA
members
here,
The
Wanted
letter
and
shakiki
jobs
by
is
not
here
with
us
this
evening,
but
again
they're
putting
a
lot
of
hard
work.
I
also
want
to
recognize.
Forgive
me
Sasha
with
the
county,
helps
us
with
housing,
so
I'm,
going
back
to
housing
for
just
a
minute,
but
Tiffany,
umacho
and
I.
Think
Terry
Bellamy
helps
us
on
that
end
as
well
with
criminal
justice,
so
just
want
to
acknowledge
all
the
help
that
we're
getting
in
this
room.
G
The
work
that
we've
been
doing,
one
of
the
things
that
came
out
of
our
work
is
that
we
wanted
to
come
up
with
a
mission
statement
for
criminal
justice
to
help
to
guide
the
work
that
we're
doing
when
it
comes
to
recommendations.
So
the
mission
statement
that
we
came
up
with
is
the
mission
statement
of
the
Asheville
and
Buncombe
County
reparations
commissions.
G
G
Is
the
disproportionate
rate
black
students
are
being
criminalized,
the
lack
of
awareness
of
juvenile
custodial
rights
and
elimination
of
the
school
to
prison
pipeline
and
then
I'm
going
to
share
the
mic
or
share
the
cookie
as
they
call
it
and
let
some
other
people
speak.
So
who
wants
to
speak
on
the
recommendations.
I
Good
evening,
everyone
thank
you
for
the
opportunity,
the
first
recommendation
and
they
are
one
through
three
create
and
Implement
culturally
Covenant
black
restority
I.
Think
Justice
is
supposed
to
be
uncertain
into
there,
her
students
prior
to
them
being
involved
with
the
justice
system,
and
while
they
are
involved
with
the
justice
system
to.
O
Okay,
so
for
the
IFA
overlap,
the
criminal
justice
I
have
to
overlap
school,
but
all
the
other
ifas
specifically
as
it
pertains
to
this
recommendation.
There
are
clear
overlap:
education.
O
F
O
Educated
as
a
black
person
was
criminalized
in
North
Carolina
state
law,
so
during
like
the
Black
Codes
the
time
of
the
black
code,
so
that's
not
something
that
we
will
Overlook
as
we're
developing
recommendations.
Economic
Development.
We
recognize
that
when
a
person
is
not
economically
stable,
it
affects
all
aspects
of
their
lives.
Unfortunately,
at
times
leading
them
to
behaviors
that
can
cause
them
to
become
involved
in
the
criminal
justice
system
and
not
always
by
choice
and
most
likely,
not
my
choice.
O
Additionally,
this
limits
on
their
record
causes
a
domino
effect
that
affects
other
areas
of
their
lives,
such
as
housing,
employment,
education,
Etc
housing,
as
mentioned
in
the
previous
bullet,
haven't
been
involved
in
the
criminal
justice
system
directly
affects
the
housing
choices
for
those
with
records,
health
and
wellness.
We
haven't
had
much
conversation
on
effects
on
an
individual's
health
and
wellness
regarding
the
criminal
justice
system,
but
we
have
talked
about
mental
health.
We
talked
about
re-entry
programs
and
need
for
re
for
medical
health,
medical
wellness
and
medical
health
support.
O
We
are
aware
that
mental
health,
anxiety
and
post-traumatic
stress
disorder
are
some
of
the
items
that
rise
on
top.
Regarding
the
effects
of
incarceration
or
involvement
in
the
criminal
justice
system,.
R
And
also,
although
we're
here
about
reparations,
there
are
some
Community
buying
initiatives
that
we
need
to
start
talking
about
right
now,
and
one
of
those
would
be,
for
example,
that
when
you
get
that
summons
to
show
up
for
court,
please
don't
act
like
you're,
a
rich
white
person
and
try
to
get
out
of
it.
We
need
you
in
the
we
need
you
in
that
box.
R
G
A
My
question
is
their
records
for
juveniles.
That
are,
you
know,
by
the
courts,
but
they're
also
records
held
by
the
schools
are
both
of
those
sealed
at
the
at
some
point,
as
a
way
of
disrupting
the
pipeline.
I
don't
know
is
because
if
because
they're,
digitized
and
I
don't
know
how
you
still
digitize
records.
G
Right,
that's
a
great.
I
Our
school
system,
as
you
know,
they're
the
cheap
way
65
percent
of
all
juvenile
complaints
come
in
this
city
can
really
because
their
County
compliance
in
a
criminal
justice
system
come
from
the
school
systems,
and
that
is
that
is
urgent
if
they're
juveniles
generally,
that
record
is
suppressed.
The
other
part
that
we
found
was
interesting
was
that
administrators,
and
this
is
highly
violent
and
threatening,
have
the
ability
to
script,
to
have
discretion
not
to
prosecute
and.
I
S
Have
you
all
had
any
conversations
with
law,
enforcements
or
lawyers
or
anybody
from
the
school
systems
and
discussions
with
your
recommendations
or
is.
G
You
for
that
question,
that's
a
great
question.
We
actually
wanted
to
meet
with
education
on
that,
and
then
we
had
Sergeant
Captain
Captain
Lamb
with
APD.
He
attended
our
last
meeting
and
he
was
sharing
some
information
with
us,
so
we'll
definitely
be
reaching
out
to
him
to
get
some
more
information
on
this.
G
Q
G
I
I
I
Top
down
it
starts
from
the
type
of
command
and
chief
Zach
has
done
a
pretty
good
job,
as
well
as
lamb
and
some
of
the
other
Command
Staff.
I
I,
don't
know
if
that
answers
your
question,
but
that
is
what
discretionary
Authority
can
do
and
what
it
cannot
do.
It
can
change
lives
and
they
have
the
authority
to
do
so.
Unless
it's
a
life-threatening
situation.
The
young
people
that
you
saw
in
the
young
black
girl
that
came
here
and
presented
before
us
was
one
of
those
24
black
students
and
it
changed
her
life
forever.
More
I
intend
to
see
her
being
a
real
Community
activist.
R
Discretionary
Authority,
quite
simply
is,
is
that
when
a
black
child
violates
whatever
rule,
they
are
more
likely
to
be
charged
than
a
white
child,
so
they
are
doing
that
dispersionary
Authority
all
the
time.
It's
just
not
benefiting
us.
Instead
of
seeing
him,
we
we
want
to
make
sure
that
that's
a
Level
Playing
Field
if
they
can
discretionary,
decide
not
to
arrest
or
send
a
white
kid
into
the
criminal
justice
system.
We
want
that
same
in
place
for
our
kids.
Q
G
R
R
Some
of
these
kids
most
of
these
kids
are
already
at
risk
already
behind,
so
anytime
they're
suspended
they're
just
piling
up,
so
we
want
to
eliminate
that,
but
we
also
have
to
put
something
in
place
for
if
they
cannot
be
in
the
classroom,
we
want
to
provide
some
type
of
instructions
for
them.
If
they
have
to
be
suspended,
we
want
them
in
front
of
good
select.
R
R
J
D
D
I
I
Oh,
of
course
it's
a
two-part
it's
a
question:
I'll
be
real,
quick
I,
know
black
man,
your
Monday.
Are
you
also
involved
in
the
County
School
System,
because
to
it
and
I
say
that,
because
maybe
two
or
three
weeks
ago
a
young
black
girl
committed
suicide
and
she
was
at
Reynolds,
so
yeah
I
know
it's
a
broad
spectrum
and
I
know
that
the
county
has
sometimes
difficulty
in
letting
people
inside.
R
E
B
B
First
thing
I
started
to
ask
myself:
is
it
a
black
person
in
my
neighborhood,
but
the
more
I
look
through
them
eyes?
I
was
able
to
say
you
know,
I
guess
it
was
around
DUI,
and
so
they
were
going
through
the
motion
trying
to
get
him
to
walk
the
line
at
all
of
this,
which
is
in
one
sense,
it
was
entertaining
too,
but
it
was
amazing
how
long
it
took
them
for
them
to
figure
out
whether
or
not
they
need
to
go
to
the
next
level.
B
B
B
See
that
scene
and
all
that
played
out
with
that,
because
it
was
a
young
lady
in
the
car
with
her
and
she
got
out
and
she
disappeared.
I'm
like
where's
she
going,
but
I
want
to
go
back
to.
The
point
is
sometimes
I
have
to
make
that
decision,
whether
to
go
around
them,
go
past
them
or
maybe
turn
around
and
go
back,
and
that
happens
a
lot
of
times
as
I
walk
over
the
city.
I'm
headed
to
a
North
Asheville
I'm
coming
y'all
pray.
For
me
all.
J
Hi
hi
everyone,
I'm
Tara,
Brown
I
support
the
economic
development
IFA
this
evening.
We're
going
to
have
Mr
Richardson
talk
about
just
one
of
our
recommendations
unless
we
just
one
okay,
which
is
a
big
one,
which
is
around
the
ongoing
fund
for
reparations
I
know
a
lot
of
Commissioners
are
interested
in
what
this
might
look
like.
J
We
have
a
draft
recommendation
for
that
here
that
says,
establish
a
private
fund
for
reparations
that
can
accomplish
goals
and
accept
funding
from
private
entities
that
the
city
and
county
may
not
be
able
to
accept
funding
from
or
accomplishment
telling
you
might
not
be
able
to.
I
do
want
to
share
briefly
that
you
have
24
draft
recommendations
in
a
lot
of
different
categories:
So
Small,
Business,
Development,
Workforce
Development
waging
compensation,
larger
Economic
Development
projects,
asset
building
like
Financial,
coaching
direct
payments
to
people
to
alleviate
poverty;
things
like
that
and
accountability.
J
So
what
is
the
ongoing
process
going
to
look
like
for
ensuring
you
know
an
extended
impact
and
oversight
of
this
process,
so
I
have
copies
of
our
draft
recommendations,
we're
very
much
open
to
feedback.
I
appreciate
everyone.
That's
contributed
to
these
so
Mr
Brighton,
you've
heard
from
already
who
has
a
recommendation
around
small
business
incubators
and
historically
black.
J
J
So
we
have
a
lot
of
people
who
contributed
Mr
Olive,
so
I
have
copies
of
this
happy
to
send
it
out
and
we're
going
to
continue
working
on
them
as
we
meet
the
first
Thursday
of
every
month,
and
you
know
we're
going
to
Mr.
Richardson
has
talked
about
our
big
one,
so.
N
J
N
To
be
imperative
that
we
come
up
with
an
alternative
way
to
to
to
bring
in
funding
to
to
create
funds
for
this
project.
To
that
end
and
and
before
I
even
start
this,
let
me
let
me
say
that
there's
a
million
reasons
why
we.
N
A
million
reasons
why
it's
not
legitimate,
there's
a
million
reasons
why
we
may
have
difficulty
accomplishing
it.
All
of
that
aside,
we
have
to
figure
out
a
way
to
work
it
out
and
create
an
entity.
501C3
is
what
I
have
in
mind
that
has
a
tax
exemption
that
can
serve
as
a
fundraising
body,
also
a
a
body
that
can
receive
funds
and
work
in
conjunction
with
the
commission
going
forward
now
finding
that
individual
that
group,
whoever
that
may
be,
would
be
difficult.
Maybe
it's
a
group
that
already
exists.
N
Maybe
it's
a
group
that
we
create
within
this
group
ourselves.
We
don't
know
yet,
but
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
explore
the
idea
of
creating
that
energy
that
can
that
can
serve
as
a
fundraising
wing
and
that
can
receive
the
funding
now,
obviously,
we'll
have
to
have
the
appropriate
fiduciary
terms.
I
think
that
one
of
the
things
that
we
should
consider
if
we
do
this
is,
is,
if
and
and
Brad
can
speak
to
the
legalities
of
this
and
I've
been
fortunate
to
talk
with
him
a
little
bit
about
it.
N
I,
wouldn't,
dare
quote
an
attorney,
that's
dangerous
territory,
but
there
are
possibilities
and
things
that
we
could
potentially
achieve,
and
so
I
think
that
we're
going
to
have
to
continue
to
have
the
discussion.
Having
said
that,.
N
N
In
the
state
of
North
Carolina
we
have
two
professional
sports
franchises,
the
Carolina,
Hornets
I
think
it
is
and
and
the
Carolina
Panthers,
and
so
imagine,
if
you
will,
that
the
reparations
commission
501c3
was
tax
exempt
and
those
in
the
National
Football
League
60,
that
higher
of
most
rosters
are
young
black
men,
even
higher
numbers
in
the
National
Basketball
Association.
Imagine
if
you
will
45-man
roster
of
the
Carolina
Panthers.
So
let's
say,
let's
say
for
just
numbers,
then.
F
N
Of
those
individuals
are
young
black
men
number
15-man
roster
for
the
NBA
team,
that
10
of
those
are
black,
so
collectively
we
have
35
individuals,
all
of
which
are
multi-millionaires
will
have
to
pay
taxes
on
an
annual
basis.
If
we
were
a
501c3
that
was
in
position
to
receive
those
funds
and
to
give
them
a
tax
credit
for
it,
they
could
work
together
with
us
to
to
to
make
their
tax
dollars
go
to
a
greater
use.
N
One
of
the
things
that
the
white
Community
is
very
very
good
at
is
wealthy
people
create
non-profits
and
they
pay
their
taxes
in
in
a
way
that
benefits
their
community
and
you
can
let
them
that's
it.
That's
what
we
need
to
try
and
accomplish,
and
so
having
said
that,
if
we
could
lend
our
minds
to
collectively
to
each
IFA
lend
our
minds
towards
creating
that
entity,
we
don't
know
what
it
would
look
like
yet
have
had
those
discussions,
but
Economic
Development
affects
every
area.
Crime.
N
N
N
I
Get
thank
you.
Mr
Richardson
I'll
be
very
grateful.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity,
as
within
any
at
least
Monero
Institution,
which
is
501c3,
you
have
a
capacity
to
be
a
full
community
development
corporation,
which
has
its
own
board
of
directors
authorized
under
the
rules
of
the
IRS
under
Section
501c3.
That
would
entitle
this
entity
to
have
donations
and
also
yes,
it
would
not
be
liable
to
pay
income
tax
on
any
properties.
Put
your
loans
as
well
I
would
say
to
you
that
there
are
other
Limitless
possibilities.
I
For
a
further
conversation,
we've
had
some
of
those
and
basically
I
know
we
were
talking
about
the
city
ascribing
its
name
to
a
deed,
so
that
homeowners
wouldn't
have
to
pay
taxes
but
per
General
statutes
of
North
Carolina
they're
monuments,
Clauses
that
govern
that
really
rule
against
that.
The
only
way
around
that
is
a
501c3.
Now
there
may
be
some
some
hybrids
that
are
out
there,
but
none
that
would
comport
with
the
ability
to
be
tax
exempt
on
everything
that
you
did,
except
for
some.
I
Corporations
that
you
might
set
up
as
subsidiaries,
social
Enterprises
are
the
going
thing
now
fee
for
services.
That
is
another
thing
that
you
might
want
to
consider
as
you
set
up
this
Corporation
there's
a
lot
of
a
need
and
I
think.
I
According
to
the
disparity
study
that
the
city
is
doing
right
now,
which
is
probably
going
to
show
a
need
for
more
ethnic
minority
on
firms,
you
could
full-wheel
Charter
some
fully
viable
commercial
firms
and
make
a
killing
off
of
it
or
become
a
public
contract
and
go
after
those
dollars,
but
those
are
other
intimate
conversations
that
do
need
to
be
held
and
held
held
to
benefit
the
community.
So
thank
you,
Mr
Richardson.
If
you
have
any
questions,
I'll
answer
those
other
community
I'll
just
take
a
seat.
F
N
Think
that
we
would
be
wise
as
a
group
to
engage
Brad
attorney
to
speak
to
us.
N
The
possibilities
if
there
are
ways
that
we
can
structure
this,
if
there's
an
approach
that
would
be
prudent
for
us
to
try
and
accomplished
it
to
to
embark
on
this
path,
but
I
think
one
way
or
another.
It
comes.
J
N
The
fact
that
we're
never
going
to
get
from
the
city
or
county
the
amount
of
money
that
we
will
need
to
accomplish
our
goals
so
simply
put
we'll
have
to
find
another
way,
just
as
we
have
as
a
people
across
time
had
to
figure
it
out
one
way
or
another
how
to
get
done,
what
we
need
to
get
done
so
the
sooner
we
embark
on
the
mindset
of
creating
that
entity,
that's
one
more
day
that
will
be
closer
to
that
goal.
Thank
you
for
listening.
C
Have
y'all
had
any
conversations
with
the
minority
development
groups
across
the
state?
All
the
minority,
Credit
Unions
across
the
state
have.
N
Not
Advanced
that
far,
yet
we
are
in
the
process
now
of
trying
to
that
the
the
concept,
the
idea
is
just
sort
of
being
shaped
and
trying
to
decide
what
the
possibilities,
what
the
logistics,
what.
J
Q
F
C
It
doesn't
have
to
be
a
CDF,
but
it
can
be,
it
can
be
like
there
are
many
minority
Credit
Unions
across
the
country,
I
mean
we
if
we
could
get
in
with
one
of
those
and
kind
of
you
know
talk
about
how
do
they
set
themselves
like
here?
C
We
tried
that
years
ago
in
self-help,
and
it
was
it's
just
hard
to
get
it
done.
But
if
we
have
this
group
that
might
be
able
to
push
something
like
that
through
that
may
be
able
to
happen.
There
are
many
minority
economic
development
organizations
across
the
state
that
we
could
tap
into
and
be
a
part
of
what
you're
talking
about
doing,
and
it's
it's
so
easy
to
to
not
create
the
wheel
and
to
join
the
wheel.
N
F
D
J
N
Experience
and
and
in-depth
knowledge
that
you
assess
and
what
others
do
to
to
help
us
put
together.
This
would
be
something
that
will
have
many
moving.
Parts
should
have
many
disciplines
to
accomplish
to
accomplish
the
goal,
so
I
think
that
it's
time
to
start
that
conversation-
and
maybe
the
group
would
want
to
consider
creating
a
new
IFA
I,
don't
know
exactly
what
how
to
praise
this,
but
a
new
group
that
would
be
intended
to
to
have
a
representative
from
all
of
the
ifas
from
leadership
from
RJC.
J
N
And
come
together
to
talk
about
and
and
legal
because
we're
going
to
get
anywhere
until
they
sign
sign
off
on
it
but
I,
but
where
there's
a
will
there's
a
way
and
I
feel
that
there
have
to
show
us
how
to
create
that
pathway-
and
you
know
expression
we
all
were
raised
them
and
God
helps
those
help
themselves.
So
we'll
need
to
help
ourselves
and.
C
N
N
Q
Thank
you
for
the
presentation,
so
two
things
that
I'm
thinking
about
one
is
direct
impact
and
small
wins
and
looking
at
your
recommendations
overview,
it
seems
It's
really
broad.
So
as
an
IFA
as
the
economic
development
IFA
are
you
are
you
looking
at
specifically
small
strategies
of
implementation
or
all
these
bullets
are
the
recommendations
and
I
do
hear
you
when
you're
saying
you're,
putting
the
ask
out
there
for
all
all
of
us
to
collectively
think
together,
but
is
your
Isa
focused
on
specifically
certain
wins.
F
I
E
Just
real
quickly,
thank
you
for
that
comment
and
thank
you
for
that
question,
because
that
was
going
to
be
the
same
thing
that
I
suggested
for
your
group,
which
clearly
you're
already
working
on
it
to
miss
Harris's
point
about
the
minority,
credit
unions
and
organizations.
Perhaps
one
of
the
recommendations
in
addition
to
the
supplier,
Development
Council.
Maybe
you
could
have
a
summit
where
you
have
a
convening
of
all
these
different
groups.
Come
talk
together,
information
sharing
or
have
a
series
of
summits,
or
something
like
that.
That
could
be
one
of
the
recommendations.
C
Right
that
convenes
well,
we
go
into
additional
follow-up
discussion
and.
J
A
Listening
to
these
ifas
I'm,
sorry
I
understood
the
last
meeting.
May
I
encourage
you
to
not
hold
back.
Do
not
abbreviate
give
us
what
you've
got
you
talked
about
in
developing
Collective
materials.
We
need
that
all
all
of
what
you've
got
don't
go
back
up.
C
So
we
actually
have
five
minutes
for
additional
follow-up
discussion.
We
also
have
some
note
cards
that
I
can
pass
out
and
as
we
progress
in
the
meeting
and
some
comes
to
you,
please
write
it
on
the
note
cards
and
make
sure
that
we
can
get
it
better
respect
them
ifas.
C
The
moment
so
I
will
pass
these
out
and
then
Christine
we're.
E
On
the
office,
all
right,
so
we're
gonna
move
to
Old
business
and
we're
doing
pretty
good
on
time.
So
the
next
item
in
your
agenda
package
should
be
the
RFP.
The
request
for
proposal
is
called
the
comprehensive
audit
sees
harm,
impacted
the
African-American
Community.
This
is,
of
course,
a
result
of
the
work
that
the
audit
work
group
put
in
several
weeks
ago
and
also
a
result
of
the
immediate
recommendation
that
you
all
passed
so
kudos
for
that
the
RFP
has
been
published.
E
This
is
public,
it
is
available
everywhere
and
if
you
want
to
just
look
through
this
RFP
packet,
it
is
a
solicitation
where
the
city
and
county
this
is
being
facilitated
by
Buncombe
County
they're,
looking
for
a
vendor
to
facilitate
the
services
that
are
listed
in
this
scope.
So
thank
you
to
those
who
serve
on
the
audit
work
group
Bob
at
Mays,
Bernard
oliphance
assigned
in
the
Peters
Angie
Williams
the
deadline
for
the
RFP
or
the
proposal
response
is
June,
8th
yo.
This
is
a
mouthful
as.
A
You're
reading
it
it's
both
legal
and
Technical,
and
if
you
want
to
really
get
to
some
of
the
heart
of
what
over
Lodge
will
reparations.
Commission
I
would
point
you
to
the
subtitle
scope
of
work.
It's
5.0
in
the
middle
of
the
report,
but
the
scope
of
the
work.
E
That's
the
information
that
we
have
right
now
again,
it's
available
for
y'all
to
read
and
share
that
you
might
know
of
some
vendors
that
might
be
good
for
this
particular
work.
Foreign.
A
A
As
you're
reading
through
this
I'm
digesting,
we
probably
will
have
a
question
if
there's
nothing
but
Clarity,
please
Focus,
please,
please
send
the
email
directly
to
Christine
or
to
me,
but
I
can't
believe
we're
actually
running
on
time.
Schedule
it'll
be
really
great.
As
far
as
we
can
begin,
our
new
business.
Q
I
just
have
a
question,
and
this
is
really
just
speaking
about
the
art
of
the
RFP,
but
if
someone
sits
currently
on
the
reparations
commission-
and
they
have
the
capacity
to
apply
for
this,
but
they
have
to
come
off
the
commission
like.
Is
there
a
conflict
of
interest
with
that?
Yes,.
E
F
I
O
Reading
the
scope
of
the
work
I
get
the
impression
that
the
auditor
will
be
examining
various.
I
I
I
don't
know
if
that
answers
your
question,
but
that
is
within
the
realm
of
asking
the
public
entity
to
be
recountable
for
taxpayer
money
and
any
of
its
sub
recipients,
whether
they
are
501c,
threes
or
community-based
organizations.
They
are
likewise
held
accountable,
should
have
the
same
transparency.
A
The
effect,
if
you
look
at
further
on
in
the
report
appendix
a
list,
the
agencies
and
offices
of
the
city
and
county
that
are
subject
for
that
means
that
I
think
are
the
offices
that.
O
This
kind
of
research
and
varying
the
data
or
or
delaying
the
data
are
just
two
of
the
strategies
tonight,
so
it
must
be
alert.
E
Audition,
so
that's
a
good
question,
so
the
awards
it
looks
like
if
on
the
RFP
schedule
in
this
little
table
up
here
the
award
announced
by
July
3rd.
So
if
the
RFP
proposal
is
due
by
June
8th
and
then
the
contract
is
awarded
by
July
3rd,
what
were
what
I
believe
we're
going
to
be
asking
a
vendor
to
do
is
to
develop
a
timeline
and
that
timeline
is
going
to
be
based
on
the
criteria
of
this
board.
This
commission,
so
that
and
that's
the
evaluation
criteria.
It
is
based
on
application.
E
Applicant
experience,
alignment
with
Express
wishes
of
the
community
reparations
commission,
timeline,
approach
and
cost,
and
so
that
is
the
criteria,
and
so
we
know
that
we
want
to
get
these
results
and
we
want
to
know
the
results
of
this
audit
in
a
timely
manner.
So
we're
going
to
be
working
alongside
this
process.
J
A
We're
a
little
bit
past
our
time
for
whole
business
to
begin
with
a
presentation
from
Tiffany
I
I
love,
you
the!
Where
is
the
title?
She's,
the
director
of
public
county
Justice,.
M
But
you
do
have
slide
back
in
your
packet
and
this
amount
of
Correction
you
will
add
an
updated
version
to
the
websites.
I
am
not
1051,
slides
all
right,
I
use
what
it
makes.
You
guys
had
some
information
about
the
criminal
justice
system,
because
it
is
deep.
It
is
wide.
It
packs
folks
in
our
community
and
it's
very
complex
and
do
us
so
I'll
just
start
I'll
introduce
myself.
M
Some
of
you
may
know
me
already,
but
for
others,
just
some
Basics
about
the
criminal
justice
system,
elderly,
viewed
directly
about
the
services
that
we
provide
about
the
county
and
then
I'll
introduce
some
local
data,
followed
by
any
questions
that
you
all
may
have
and
I
didn't
bring.
My
watch
so
I
think
all
right.
Hopefully,
I
will
get
done
sooner
rather
than
later,
and
many
of
one
of
the
partners
with
the
criminal
justice.
Ifa
we've
been
talking
a
lot
about
this
data.
M
This
information
I'm
just
so
good
about
myself,
I'm
the
director
for
the
Justice
Services
Department,
a
newly
created
department
for
the
county,
wanted
to
strategically
put
all
of
the
like-minded
services
that
we
provide
in
one
entity
to
create
an
overall
mission
to
advance
Public,
Safety
and
work
with
those
folks
directly
and
indirectly
involved
in
the
criminal
justice
system.
I
also
have
a
background.
As
a
licensed
clinician
I
do
a
lot
of
work
working
in
behavioral
health
and
substance
abuse
personally
I'm
going
to
raise
New
York.
F
M
I
work
as
a
lot
around
public
service,
and
especially
folks
in
my
community,
and
also
a
family
board
member
of
Asheville
Kids
Academy,
where
our
chair
also
served
on
the
board
as
well
as
the
chair
of
the
admission
all
right,
so
criminal
justice
I
am
no
expert
in
criminal
justice.
However,
I've
worked
a
lot
with
partners
and
trying
to
understand
the
complexities
in
which
folks
who
have
become
involved
in
have
to
learn
to
navigate
so.
E
M
M
I
do
have
some
links
available
that
I'll
just
for
you
to
look
at
criminal
justice
101
is
a
video
that
we
published,
maybe
probably
pre-covered,
it's
an
eight
minute
video,
but
it
just
talks
in
as
late
terms
as
possible
about
the
interfacing
when
someone
has
to
interact
with
criminal
justice
system
from
the
point
of
injury
to
kind
of
the
re-entry
aspect.
There's
a
lot
of
data
and
dashboards
that
we
are
continuously
developing
as
capacity
to
look
at
data.
M
M
Had
a
task
force,
a
racial
equity,
a
lot
of
their
programming
and
recommendations
are
aligning
that
program,
security,
recommendations,
kind
of
aligning
the
same
conversations
we're
having
here
locally
and
then
our
criminal
justice.
If
they
presented
on
the
school
of
prison
pipeline,
the
state's
recognize
that
as
well
and
they
are
encouraging
communities
to
develop
a
school
to
Justice
partnership
that
looks
at
reducing
the
amount
of
Youth,
especially
disproportionately
effective
black
communities
being
impacted
by
the
school
of
prison
pipeline.
M
So
getting
stakeholders
together,
I
wanted
Buncombe,
County
they're,
just
starting
to
work
coming
out
of
covet
they're.
Looking
at
some
of
the
same
recommendations
that
you
guys
are
talking
about,
not
criminalizing
our
youth
and
what
are
other
graduated
responses
or
other
diversionary
efforts
that
can
be
done
to
support
Youth
Development.
M
I
won't
go
through
these
slides
as
much
but
I
think
it's
important
to
note
that,
especially
as
we're
doing
this
work
in
my
career
recommendations
and
we've
been
talking
a
lot
in
IFA
and
with
the
county
City
local
municipalities
have
control
over
and
what
part
of
Criminal
Justice
is
a
function
of
the
state
and
what
would
be
some
things
that
require
like
the
legislative
agenda,
to
help
get
things
you
know
in
an
effort
to
reduce
disparities,
so
our
highest
court
in
Buffalo
County,
where
felonies
are
herd,
are
civil
suits
over
a
certain
amount
and
the
appeals
are
seated
in
our
Superior
Court
and
if
anything
higher
than
that
it
does
go
to
the
state.
M
The
administrative
office
of
the
courts
is
the
governing
body
for
the
courts,
but
many
here
locally
are
elected
elected
officials
a
lot
of
times
the
criminal
justice
or
the
Justice
related
ballots
are
kind
of
sparse
and
a
lot
of
people
focus
on
other
municipality
elections.
But
these
are
elected
officials,
our
district
court
judges
are
elected
as
well,
and
they
do
misdemeanors
and
civil
cases.
M
There's
two
rotations:
the
magistrates,
so
just
real,
quick.
The
judges
kind
of
hear
cases
and
set
bonds
right
into
sentencing
mad
shits
are
reviewing
are
the
ones
that
are
filing
the
charges
after
the
police
make
their
arrest
based
no
probable
cause
and
then
va's
responsibility
is
Prosecuting
the
cases
so
cases
have
to
be
charged.
M
M
M
We
have
to
request
to
the
state
and
we've
been
working
on
doing
our
own
public
records
requests
for
some
of
the
data
that
has
been
identified
for
the
criminal
justice,
IFA,
there's
kind
of
a
representation
for
those
who've
been
charged.
The
IDS
public
defenders
no
and
then
the
local
private
defense
bar.
M
And
the
school
person
fight
for
once
a
law
enforcement
officer
by
its
cause.
They
don't
charge
youth,
it's
another
word
and
I
was
escaping
me
right
now
and
they
get
referred
to
Juvenile
Justice
North
Carolina
was
the
last
state
to
raise
the
age
we
were
arresting
and
charging
17
and
16
to
17
year
olds
until
2019
2022..
M
The
state
also
provides
us
funding
locally
to
fund
Community
programs
that
we
invest
about
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
programming.
So
if
someone's
referred
to
Juvenile
Justice,
they
do
a
lot
of
trying
to
divert
the
youth
firm
involvement
and
they
will
refer
when
appropriate.
To
these
programs.
Like
team
Court
structure,
Day
program
and
community
service
and
restitution
programs,
I
will
say
our
jcpc
has
become.
M
And
they're
asking
questions
about
race
and
demographics
of
the
program,
their
last
allocation
cycle.
They
were
asked
to
be
the
programs
who
are
you
serving
based
on
age
and
demographic,
racial
demographic,
then
again,
the
prisons
and
criminal
and
the
probation
and
parole
are
State
agencies.
M
When
it
comes
to
local
municipalities.
There
are
several
law
enforcement
agencies.
The
sheriff
is
responsible
in
addition
to
the
other
kind
of
local
law
enforcement
structure
requirements.
They
also
have
to
provide
security
for
the
court
and
responsible
for
those
that
come
into
the
jail
we
have
enough
in
Buffalo
County,
which
is
unique,
essential
way
of
keeping
a
master
name
record.
M
The
state
system,
the
court
system
and
the
county
systems
do
not
talk,
and
our
governments
have
partnered
up
I
believe
they're
in
30
years
of
existence
to
ensure
that
there's
a
master
name
record
and
we
could
try
to
understand
someone's
involvement
as
much
as
possible.
Using
the
centralized
data
entry
and
then
specifically
I
mentioned
the
county
has
adjusted
Services
Department.
This
is
not
statutorily
required
of
counties,
but
we
were
investing
a
lot
of
money
and
different
Public
Safety
initiatives
so
creating
a
space
where
we
can
collectively
work
to
reimagine
Justice.
M
There
are
several
different
programs:
I
don't
have
time
to
talk
to
them
about
the
mall,
but
these
links
on
the
website
can
just
show
you
how
to
learn
more
about
the
program
but,
of
course,
we're
operating
the
Family
Justice
Center.
Those
are
folks:
who've
been
impacted
by
domestic
violence,
intimidating
violence,
specifically
sexual
assault,
child
abuse,
development
abuse.
We.
M
M
Someone's
relatively
safe
with
the
community
but
may
need
some
more
support
to
ensure
they
come
back
to
court,
and
then
we
have
treatment
Courts
for
those
who
are
struggling
with
addiction
and
mental
health,
and
so
we
also
try
to
coordinate
efforts
and
look
at
issues
that
address
the
kind
of
the
system
through
the
coordinated
Community
response,
domestic
violence,
all
right,
Justin,
Bieber's,
advisory,
Council
and
I've
already
mentioned
the
juvenile
provision
Council.
M
M
To
use
data
in
our
decision
making
process
I
have
a
lot
of
different
data
talks
about
the
way
people
are
being
impacted.
Aggregately,
so
I've
presented
a
little
bit
about
a
data
about
each
of
our
programs
and
then.
M
About
virtualization
is
the
word,
and
it's
supposed
to
have
been
impacted
and
I
think
the
less
was
just
our
jail
population
with
the
community.
People
want
to
know
more
about,
so
we
have
a
dashboard.
We
capture
free
trial,
Services,
it's
right
now
in
PDF
form,
but
overall
there
in
February
there's
about
600
people
on
pre-trial
160
of
those
identified
as
black.
So
that's
about
24.
So
when
we
look
at
our
just
our
disparity
rate,
our
population
of
Bumpkin
County
has
a
big
black
individuals
roughly
five
to
six
anything
over.
M
That
is
important,
but
in
the
lives
of
our
program
data
roughly
the
lines
in
our
jail
data.
So
when
it
comes
to
compliance,
that
means
someone
did
not
get
a
new
charge.
F
M
On
pre-trial
they
it
did
not
get
into
charge,
they
didn't
violate
the
condition
of
their
release
and
they
came
to
court.
They
call
that
compliance
rate,
so
68
of
black
people
were
compliant
compared
to
62
of
white
people.
So.
M
M
White
being
enrolled
in
programs
at
14
African-Americans,
our
completion
rate
for
blacks
is
slightly
higher
at
16
percent,
but
we'll
also
want
to
look
at
the
time
it
takes
somebody
to
complete
the
program
and
we're
looking
at.
How
do
we
reduce
this
barrier
and
equalize
creating
equity
in
how
long
some
entrepreneurs
we
also
so
our
diversion
program,
basically
they're
getting
a
misdemeanor.
J
M
The
day's
office
has
agreed
to
dismiss
the
case
and
why
this
is
important
is
collateral
expenses.
You
did
that
on
your
record
and
expunged
into
cases
dismissed
and
so
I'm
just
saying
people's
impact
with
having
these
records,
you
look
at
How
likely.
Someone
is
completing
the
community.
M
F
M
So
we
are
having
these
conversations
interesting
enough.
We
compare
What's
called
the
relative
rate
index
groups,
the
likelihood
of
some
experience,
the
closer
you
are
to
one.
That
means
the
group
are
having
the
same
experience,
letting
what
three
times
more
likely
than
life
to
appear
on
the
calendar,
but
they
are
more
likely
to
be
eligible,
however,
they're
less
likely
to
enroll.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
understand
why
folks
aren't
enrolling
if
they're
eligible.
M
We
also
have
a
felony
drug
version,
so
folks,
who
have
been
charged
with
possession
also
can
have
their
felony
charges
dismissed
if
they
complete
the
program
we
broke
that
down
by
race
as
well.
When
we
looked
at
the
program,
let
people
were
more
likely
to
be
bonded
or
excuse
me
booked
on
these
charges
that
were
compared
to
the
community
population
three
times
more
likely
to
have
the
charges
eligible
for
the
program.
However,
white
people
were
more
likely
to
enroll,
so
bro
they're,
enrolling,
they're
completing
they're,
the
ones
getting
their
cases
dismissed
right.
M
So
how
do
we
create
equity
in
ensuring
people
can
get
their
charges
dismissed?
At
the
same
rate,
we've
had
our
treatment
courts.
For
years,
we've
known,
they're
not
been
diverse
in
termination
rates
for
black
clients
were
33
compared
to
the
determination
for
whites.
What
is
termination
based
on
new
charges
non-compliant
with
the
program
and
so
they're
more
likely
to
be
terminated.
The
numbers
are.
M
M
A
small
percentage
of
black
people
that
are
enrolling
in
two
out
of
three
of
those
did
not
successfully
complete
compared
to
the
eight
exit
individuals
who
are
identify
this
white
and
then
the
black
people
that
lead
the
program.
J
M
D
M
M
People
end
up
going
back
to
daily,
they
have
a
sick,
they
have
a
place
to
stay
and
then
the
Nexus
employment
application
cell
phone
and
the
right
employment
so
actually
acquiring
the
job
that
they're
important
in
our
racial
Equity
action
plan.
The
county
issue
there's
a
section
specific
to
our
Justice
Services
work.
M
M
M
Victimization
in
Asheville,
and
that
again
is
people
that
have
been
recipients
of
a
crime,
memories,
victims
of
a
crime.
So
the.
M
Justice
Center
data
is
about
51
of
white
people
that
have
been
using
the
fjcs
for
services
prepared
to
14
of
African-American.
There's
a
lot
of
work
to
be
done
in
in
FJ
fjc
space
and
so
we're
working
to
continuously
refine
How,
We,
Do,
IBD,
Central,
assault,
child
abuse
and
elder
abuse
in
our
community
and.
F
M
At
data
this
setting
was
done
by
Asheville
Police
Department,
the
partnership
with
the
American
prosecutors
Association.
They
did
a
conference
here
and
we
looked
at
data
over
the
past
10
years,
they've
been
an
interesting
crime,
40
to
6
400
to
600.
We
know
our
population
is
increasing
as
well,
but
the
percentage
of
black
residents
has
dropped
from
13th
to
11..
However,
one
a
third
of
all
violent
victims
are
black
and
that
number
increased
from
148
to
20
percent
to
236
and,
as
you
can
see,
you
guys
have
done
a
lot
of
work
in
urban
renewal.
M
If
you
see
the
red
spot,
I
bet
you.
If
you
overlay
that
with
the
urban
riddle
Maps,
you
will
kind
of
see
the
same,
and
then
they
pointed
out
where
they're
seeing
these
products
at.
M
From
a
four-year
period,
33
of
all
Violent
Crime
Victims
are
black,
despite
comprising
of
11
percent
of
the
population,
and
this
is
for
Asheville
City
I
mentioned
five
percent.
That's
Buffalo
counties
census
demographic
makeup,
so
this
11
is
specific,
so
specific
to
those
in
Asheville.
For
that
five
percent,
getting
straight
down,
28
of
those
45
homicides
were
black
and
over
the
past
five
years
the
violence
has
increased
and
38
of
all
victims
and
violent
crime.
Reporters
so
similar
in
having
the
discussion
with
housing,
IFA
criminal
justice
recognizing
where
people
are
being
harmed.
M
We
are
doing
work
in
that
space
as
well.
We've
received
a
lot
of
grant
money
to
Workforce
developments,
but
even
looking
at
improving
the
built
environment,
Community
healing
initiatives
looking
at
other
communities
and
what
they've
done
Coalition
building
and
then
offering
mental
health
support
for
those
that
have
been
impacted,
but
also
ensuring
we're
interrupting
vicarious
trauma.
M
M
We
asked
how
many
to
understand
better
people
are
not
coming
to
court.
There's
really
no
way
to
attract
how
many
times
people
Miss
court,
because
the
data
overrides
itself,
so
you
only
get
the
most
recent
court
date.
So
there's
no
historical
Data
Tracking
to
understand
that.
M
That's
just
the
way
they
built
the
system
when
the
IT
people
were
like.
Oh,
let's
do
this
and
not
understanding
what
the
data
needs
are.
Hopefully
they're
trying
to
get
computerized
have
that
sense
of
historical
data,
so
the
blue
is
just
kind
of
what
we
started
out
with
looking
at
from
a
decision
Point
imbalances.
M
This
is
where
we
kind
of
see
disparities.
We
talked
about
demographics,
you
prepare
the
housing
demographics
to
the
Detention,
Facility
demographics,
it's
the
deepest
bearing
so
just
for
some
contacts.
We
looked
at
the
population
based
on
how
many
people
are
coming
into
the
jail
and
how
long
they're
staying-
and
that
gives
you
a
sense
of
your
average
population.
M
This
economy
explains
it,
so
the
average
daily
population
is
19
difference.
The
average
number
of.
M
J
F
M
Decision
points
I
would
suggest
you
take
a
look
at,
but
the
first
one
is
charge
and
initial
bail.
How
many
people
are
being
released
on
what
type
so
one
is?
Are
they
able
to
post
bond
not
even
posted,
do
they
have
to
post
upon.
M
F
M
M
M
There
are
a
lot
of
different
factors.
You
have
conversations
conversations
about
why
this
occurs
and
those
are
there's
a
lot
of
Storytelling,
but
the
data
does
it
kind
of
a
lot
of
writing?
The
things
that
we
were
trying
to
like
focus
on
is
what
I
just
highlighted
specifically
for
higher
level
felonies
black
women
in
custody
or
the
average
14
days.
M
M
And
then
trying
to
encourage
people
to
show
up
for
court
or
call
their
attorney
or
make
arrangements
so
they're
not
getting
orders
of
arrest.
We
are
seeing
in
the
moment
in
our
court
provider
system
at
about
the
same
rate,
so
people
about
everyone,
who's
been
offered
to
sign
up,
are
signing
up
at
the
same
rate.
E
Believe,
that's
all
I
have
so
oh
you're
doing
good
on
time.
Thank.
J
F
L
Oh
yeah,
Miss
Tiffany:
do
you
have
a
working
cell
that
we
can
use
I'm.
N
Giving
all
the
information
that
you
presented
to
us
what
would
be
the
best
way
for
the
commission,
the
criminal
justice
IFA,
what
what
would
be
the
best
way
for
for
them
to
connect
with
with
your
office
if
you
will,
and
and
bring
to
bear
the
data
that
that
you
have
learned
what
would
be
the
best
way
for
that
IFA
to
work
with
you
to
better
the
overall
situation.
Our
experience
within
the
clinical
justice
system
actually.
M
C
She
is
definitely
there
for
every
meeting.
Dwayne
yeah
I've
got
a
couple
of
questions
when
it
comes
to
the
data.
R
M
Both
data
APD
publishes
it
in
a
disaggregated
way
available.
I
think,
like
we
I,
think
one
meeting
we
did
look
at
it
and
I
think
it's
how
to
make
it
more
meaningful.
It
was
just
data
on
the
spreadsheet
of
like
who's
arrested
where
by
who,
whatever?
How
do
we
make
it
statistically
significant
I
think
just
working
with
the
space
for
or
I
hear
your
question
too
whether
the
system
is
designed
to
continue
to
do.
M
No
one
has
to
do
anything,
but
what
their
job
is
and
that's
why
we
see
the
outcomes
that
we
see
there's
a
lot
of
statutory
power
and
authority
and
statutory
requirements
that
it
doesn't
matter
who's
in
what
position
you're
going
to
see
disparities?
So
that's
why
it's
important
to
look
at
the
policy,
but
then
yeah
we
talked
about
it
to
figure
out.
How
do
you
figure
out
what
to
change
right,
the
waiting
process,
cases,
but
also
the
impact
of
poverty?
M
E
One
thing
I
know
that
the
IFA
facilitator
has
submitted
that
data
request
recently
I
saw
that
come
through.
So
that
is
something
that
we
are
requesting
for
our
data
team
to
look
further
into
I.
Just
wanted
to
put
that
out.
M
G
Q
My
question
goes
back
to
the
Juvenile
Justice
portion
So.
When
you
say
services
for
undisciplined
and
delinquent
juveniles.
Does
that
mean
students
with
attendance
issues?
Do
they
fall
under
this,
so
I
don't
use
that
language.
F
M
K
M
You
have
been
referred
to:
Juvenile
Justice
for
juicy
youth
had
been
charged
or
being
charged
with
vaping
fighting
some
things,
I
heard
about
that
we're
doing
what
so
I
think
have
those
conversations
and
they
are
having
about
how
to
give
power
to
schools
to
break
their
own
disciplinary
responses,
instead
of
just
referring
the
DJJ
or
to
the
sres.
Q
Q
That
too,
but
I'm
also
just
looking
at
the
language,
and
we
know
that
the
data
just
across
the
board
is
65
of
our
black.
Children
only
make
up
14
of
the
school,
but
they're
65
percent.
As
far
as
the
behavior
issues
or
DJJ,
so
I
was
just
wondering
is
that
based
on
violent
crime
or
truancy,
we
can
Harvest.
M
M
R
M
We
do
have
that
data
on
school
referrals
by
referrals
by
race
and
the
data
by
judges
other
jurisdictions
do
judicial
report
cards.
I,
don't
I
think
usually
a
non-profit
finds
that
data
to
report
on
it,
but
we
could
make
a
request
to
the
state
require
a
public
record
request
to
get
yes.
O
A
I
really
appreciate
your
presentation.
I've
done
this
work.
I
can't
believe.
You've
got
this
far
with
it,
and
congratulations
I
really
encourage
you
to
continue
because
I
don't
think,
there's
some
other
areas.
For
example,
just
this
tracking
the
courts,
that's
tedious
time
consuming
label
intensive
equipment.
What's
going
to
have
to
be
done.
M
So
I'm
looking
at
it
from
like
what
other
jurisdictions
can
do,
and
you
guys
made
a
point
about
the
community
buying
insurance
for
jury
duty.
There
are
other
jurisdiction,
they
do
Judicial
Court
cards,
they
do
Court
watching
they
sit
in
court.
They
are
active
on
the
councils.
We
have
two
councils
that
are
criminal.
Justice
represented
the
volunteer
in
team
Court.
There's
a
lot
of
like
about
Community
buy-in
about.
How
do
we
getting
to
know
when
you
have
an
election
ballot
like
who
is
writing
for
office,
like
those
type
of
things
could
also
help
Drive
change?
P
M
R
R
M
That's
the
thing
about,
like
the
system
is
desired.
It's
the
adversary
system,
even
with
the
judge,
is
the
most
impartial
judge,
they're
getting
facts
and
findings
from
other
parties
too.
To
help
draw
their
decision.
We
get
information
from
the
DA's
office.
Instead
of
getting
information
from
the
public
defender's
office
is
getting
information
from
the
police
department,
they're,
getting
them
information
from
the
victims
like
these
systems
and
how
they're
perpetuate
to
design.
If.
A
We've
been
having
questions
and
answers
throughout
the
evening.
I'll
probably
get
you
the
IFA
reports.
We
soaked
into
the
round
table
check-in
with
commission
members
if
there
are
other
things
that
need
to
be
addressed
now
is
the
time
to
bring
it
up
and
I'd
appreciate
any
comments
you
might
have,
even
though
we're
short
on
time,
we
don't
have
any
public
comments.
So
our
time
until
is
yours,.
S
Did
you
try
to
make
it
like
Peter,
so
we've
we've
discussed
a
lot
about
collaboration
between
the
ifas,
so
I
think
it's
important.
If
we
can
put
on
you,
know
our
agenda
or
our
job
discussing
about
a
retreat
that
we
can
spend
the
majority
of
our
time
doing
that
so
that
we
can
kind
of
cross
collateralize
our
ideas
and
put
them
together.
I
think
that
would
be
Tom
most
value
and
use
for
future
new
business
meetings.
O
E
And
I
do
want
to
just
comment,
because
the
The
Retreat
is
something
that
the
project
management
team
is
working
on
in
addition
to
other
community
engagement.
So
that
is
something
that
we
want
to
do
as
a
you
know,
just
for
the
commission
to
talk
amongst
themselves
and
to
work
across
ifas
and
to
collaborate,
and
that's
really
all
I
can
say
now,
because
it's
still
a
very
high
level
in
terms
of
planning.
But
that
is
something
that
we're
working
on
and
we're
putting
resources
together.
H
B
C
Last
thing
this
is
the
this:
is
the
round
table
so.
Q
I
just
wanted
to
bring
to
the
reparations
commission
attention
of
an
event.
That's
coming
up.
It's
a
national
conference
in
Atlanta,
it's
a
three-day
National
Conference,
hosted
by
the
decolonizing
wealth
project
and
it's
pretty
much
for
everyone
who's,
a
part
of
either
reparations
conversation
or
sitting
on
a
commission
and
I
wanted
to
see
if,
by
sharing
this
information
to
our
commission,
if
anyone
here
would
like
to
go
because.
E
Q
A
cohort
from
Asheville
already
going
and
Rob
Thomas
from
RJC
is
going
to
also
be
on
the
panel
along
with
Nicole
Hannah,
Jones,
tanahisi
coats
and
others.
So
I
think
it
would
just
be
a
great
way
for
Asheville
representatives
to
kind
of
be
out
there
and
be
seen
and
be
on
the
map
in
regards
to
Revelations.
H
C
K
Must
say
that
I
felt
rather
scattered,
there
was
so
much
information
coming
and
it
looked
like
information
wasn't
being
adhered
to.
I
must
say
that
I'm
better
thanks
to
staff.
That
talked
me
through
some
issues
and
I'm
glad
to
see
things
happening,
especially
around.
At
least
we
introduce
the
word
legacy,
communities
and
the
fact
that
it's
being
heard
there
are
many
communities
that
I
wonder
if
they
exist.
I
I
We
we're
a
group
that
we
agreed
to
disagree
and
still
work
together
and
at
the
end
of
the
end
of
our
time
that
that,
even
though
we
have
come
to
a
consensus,
so
we
invite
you
all
to
come
to
our
meeting.
At
least
if
both
of
you
can't
come
at
the
same
time,
just
partner
up
one
with
the
other
and
just
to
see
what
we
were
doing.
The
work
that
we
are
doing.
C
I
would
like
to
see
us
go
back
to
the
beginning
where
we
talked
about
what
the
definition
of
reparations
is.
We
never
addressed
that
so
maybe
just
Revisited,
some
of
those
things
in
the
beginning
that
we
skipped
over
and
I
feel
like
all
of
the
ifas.
C
We
have
our
recommendations,
we've
shared
them
and
every
time
we
meet,
maybe
one
is
added
or
taken
away
or
updated,
and
things
like
that
that
we
maybe
start
these
meetings
of
brainstorming
session
to
kind
of
work
through,
because
I
feel
like
we're,
maybe
stuck
and
not,
can
and
cannot
move
forward
with
our
recommendation
work
without
getting
input
from
everybody
to
say.
You
know
like
like
Miss
Harrison
shared
with
us
information.
We
can
look
into
that
now.
You
know
and
just
help
us
to
move
along
in
our
recommendations.
C
Now
to
say
we
can't
do
that,
but
I
feel
like
we
need
to.
We
need
a
next
step
or
start
moving
in
The
Next
Step
way.
You
know
so
just
but
I'm
thankful
to
everybody
for
presenting
and
and
great
information
right
times.
C
I
can't
agree
with
Tiffany,
because
we
have
it's
so
much
that
we're
doing
that
each
IFA
is
doing
so
much,
but
they
all
interact.
We
haven't
had
the
chance
and
the
opportunity
yet
to
interact
and
to
share
I
can't
go
to
a
lot
of
meetings.
I
love
to
go
to
economic
development,
but
because
of
the
meetings
that
I
do
with
the
IFA
and
the
housing
is
very
hard.
I
hear
some
of
the
stuff
that's
happening,
but
I
can't
always
get
my
input.
I
answer
a
lot
of
things
and
I'm
an
economic
development
person.
C
So
for
me,
when
I
hear
stuff,
I
like
to
be
able
to
give
input
and
so
I
think
the
retreat
would
be
a
bigger
place
to
be
able
to
do
that
and
to
share
I've
worked
so
much
with
with
child
care
with
with
new
business
own
business,
development,
banking,
Credit,
Unions,
setting
up
different
venues
or
whatever
I
can't
be
at
everything
and
do
all
the
things.
But
I
would
like
to
share
the
information
that
I
have
up
here
so
that
it
works.
B
J
F
J
T
Yeah
I
think
I'm
gonna
tell
him
what
MZ
was
saying.
I
think
everybody
needs,
so
we
need
all
the
ifas
need
to
be
looking
at
accountability
of.
What
does
success?
Look
like
so
as
you're
developing
as
we're
developing
recommendations.
T
D
Everyone
I
think
that
the
information
has
been
very
informative,
I'm
sitting
here,
trying
to
absolve
most
of
it,
but
it's
hard
because
there's
so
much
information
but
I
know
that
we
will
come
to
the
right
conclusion
and
we
would
have
the
right
answers.
You
know
that
we
need
and
I'm
just
grateful
to
be
part
of
it.
D
L
Elephant
I'd
like
to
Dove
tap
on
something
Mr
Richardson
brought
up
earlier
and
that
we
as
a
body,
really
need
to
dig
into
identifying
ways
that
we
can
generate
resources
to
make
what
we
want
to
happen
happen.
We
cannot
do
it
with
the
resources
that
would
probably
be
provided
to
us
or
already
been
identified.
We
need
additional
self-generated
resources
and
a
management
structure
to
make
sure
those
resources
are
properly
implemented
to
do
what
we
want.
P
Okay,
I
did
have
something
to
say:
I
didn't
have
it
until
after
I
listened
to
everybody.
I
would
just
ask
everybody
to
maybe
start
transitioning
the
way
you
think
about
this
reparations
Commission
in
the
way
of
like
we
got
this
goal
of
like
in
two
years.
This
is
going
to
be
done
and
I
would
say
no
like.
P
When
are
you
actually
done
with
Public
Safety?
When
are
you
done
with
making
sure
the
water
system
works
when
you've
done
with
education?
When
are
you
done
with
any
sort
of
service
for
local
government
and
you're?
Not
so
I
think
maybe
we
should
start
also
thinking
about
this,
isn't
something
that's
actually
a
done,
and
how
do
we
incorporate
that
into
our
recommendations?.
P
A
You
appreciate
you
we're
at
the
point
of
a
German
in
term
motion,
so
moved
all
those
opposed.