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A
Have
a
good
meeting,
thank
you
and
good
morning,
everyone,
I'm
sage,
turner,
your
chair
and
city
councilwoman
for
asheville
I'd
like
to
welcome
you
to
the
june
24th
2021
asheville
regional
housing
consortium
meeting.
Thank
you
for
being
here
today.
All
committee
members
and
staff
are
participating
virtually.
We
appreciate
your
patience
as
we
work
through
committee
meetings
in
a
bit
different
way.
We
are
streaming
live
on
our
virtual
engagement
hub,
which
is
accessible
through
the
virtual
engagement
hub
link
on
the
front
page
of
the
city's
website,
and
also
linked
on
this
committee's
page.
A
A
Let's
see,
please
make
sure
to
mute
your
microphone
unless
you
are
not
speaking
throughout
this
meeting,
so
we
can
kind
of
keep
the
background
noise
down
and
as
I
call
your
name,
if
you
could
unmute-
and
let
us
know
that
you
are
here-
let
me
get
to
the
list
here:
okay,
I'm
going
to
go
off
the
agendas
order
of
committee
members,
so
I
myself
am
here
how
about
ben
woody.
C
A
Okay,
thank
you
andrew.
C
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D
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E
A
Here,
oh
there,
you
are
great,
let's
see
barbara
volk.
F
G
It's
actually
for
madison
county
forest
gillum,
I'm
their
rep.
G
He's
designated
me
before
the
last.
A
G
A
A
Carmichael
alex
caitlyn
finkel
here
good
morning.
J
Griffin
and
jonathan
can
be
removed
from
our
list.
Okay,.
A
Okay,
we
also
have
some
staff
with
us
we'll
announce
them
as
they
begin
speaking
on
items.
Okay,
so
andrew
marone,
you
were
logging
in,
but
I
do
see
you
here.
You
may
not
have
heard
your
roll
call,
but
I
see
you
present.
A
K
E
A
We
can
give
him
a
minute
to
rejoin
if
he
likes
or
maybe
nope.
I
see
him
again.
Okay,
so
william
high
is
trying
to
be
present,
we'll
mark
him
as
present
for
now,
unless
he
continues
to
have
problems.
A
Okay,
so
first
up
on
the
agenda
and
for
those
of
you
listening
at
home,
I'll,
go
through
the
agenda
and
announce
each
item,
so
you
can
follow
along
we're
at
item
one.
The
framework
for
meeting
and
google
meets
I'm
actually
not
clear
if
there
was
someone
on
staff
that
wanted
to
explain
this
agenda
item,
but
it
is
not
one
that
I
created.
A
Does
someone
know
why
paul
are
you
here?
Hi.
L
A
A
See
william
is
still
having
trouble
if
there
are
no
comments.
Revisions
changes.
If
I
could
get
a
motion.
B
A
C
E
B
A
A
A
A
Let's
see
who
else
karen
approved,
okay
and
I
think
we
lost
to
william-
and
I
think
I
got
everyone.
If
I
didn't
get-
you
speak
up
now,
okay,
you
know
we
will
begin
meeting
again
in
person
in
the
future.
We
won't
have
these
roll
call
votes,
but
let's
move
on
to
the
next
one
march
25th.
So
any
changes
addendums
questions
about
that
particular
meeting
minute.
C
C
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G
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E
A
Okay,
great,
we
have
approved-
oh
karen,
sorry,
karen
approved
okay.
I
think
because
your
video
is
not
on
all
right.
Thank
you,
everyone
for
that.
So
now
we're
going
to
go
to
membership,
so
you
can
see
that
this
google
sheet
is
attached.
So
I
heard
a
couple
things
and
I
assume
maybe
christina-
maybe
you
can
adjust
these
in
real
time,
I'm
not
sure
who
owns
that
sheet.
So
if
you
who
spoke
up
earlier
to
say
that
we
had
replaced
someone,
there
were
two
people.
G
J
And
the
the
roster
was
correct
for
transylvania
2..
I
just
want
to
clarify,
because
I've
gotten
some
conflicting
information.
So
if
the
population
threshold
is
35,
then
we
can
have
two
members,
but
if
it's
higher
than
that,
then
I
would
be
an
alternate.
I
guess.
F
F
Voting
members,
kate,
would
be
our
alternate
okay.
F
And
sorry,
one
other
update,
I
am
no
longer
the
interim
planning
director.
I've
been
moved
to
just
the
planning
director,
but
well,
congratulations.
Thank
you.
E
D
For
my
listing,
the
zip
code
is
incorrect.
It
should
be
28802.
D
M
N
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E
L
Other
changes
why
sage
paul
here
with
the
citizens,
while
we
have
this
attached
every
month,
a
lot
of
stuff
changes
and
all
that's.
We
really
like
that.
Everyone
is
taking
a
look
at
that,
so
we
have
always
updated
in
current
list
and
there's
some
information
at
the
bottom
of
the
agenda
on
how
to
if
somebody's
going
to
switch
like
how
to
properly
do
that
with
the
letter
and
all
that
it's
at
the
bottom
of
the
agenda
just
fyi,
but
thanks
everybody
for
updating.
A
A
L
This
is
just
a
informational
way
to
share
that
those
are
our
priorities
that
we
focus
on
from
the
five-year
consolidated
plan,
the
high
priorities,
no
priorities
so
as
we're
always
thinking
of
funding
decisions
in
the
future,
we're
remembering
those
staff
created
just
this
simple
thing
for
us
and
we
just
thought
we'd
share
it
out.
A
L
So
just
informational
sharing
here
that
we're
hearing
other
consortiums
forming.
So
I
think
haywood
counties
looking
at
some
surrounding
counties
around
their
area
and
looking
to
form
a
consortium
and
have
already
talked
to
hud
and
our
hud
rep
about
that.
So
just
an
fyi
and
then
there
was
talk
of
rutherfordton
wanting
to
possibly
join
our
consortium,
but
they
are
now
working
with
the
folks
down
in
gastonia
and
I
think
polk
county
in
that
direction
to
possibly
form
one
in
the
future.
L
A
Okay,
okay,
any
questions
or
comments
about
that
all
right,
moving
right
along
number:
three
item:
c:
p,
j
sub
recipient
monitoring.
L
Sure
so,
I'm
going
to
flip
it
over
to
mary,
brooke
cox,
our
cd
analyst,
just
to
talk
about
our
role
as
a
participating
jurisdiction
to
do
our
own
sub
recipient
home
monitoring.
Mary
brooke
have
a
brief
update
and
then
we'll
have
more
as
we're
completing
that
work.
Right
now,
mary
brooke.
M
So
we
are
working
to
develop
an
annual
monitoring
monitoring
plan
to
meet
those
requirements.
This
spring
staff
conducted
a
risk
assessment
on
all
home-funded
projects
for
the
last
three
program
years
and
from
those
we
selected
five
projects
to
monitor.
We
are
still
actively
monitoring
but
we'll
provide
a
more
detailed
update
in
september.
L
Sure
the
consortium
had
asked
to
kind
of
just
see
where
the
balance
was
of
some
of
our
home
funding
and
previous
projects.
So
that's
kind
of
a
part
of
our
normal
agenda
items
now
for
information
sharing,
and
so
we
updated
those
for
this
meeting.
A
E
K
Can
I
step
back
to
the
audit
issues
as
I
understand
that
as
city
staff
is
conducting
an
internal
audit,
but
this
is
not
an
audit
in
conjunction
with
hud
or
a
formal
audit?
Is
that
correct.
A
K
M
K
But
I
do
we're
now
on
to
the
the
funded
project.
Can
we
pause
here
and
have
some
discussion
and
get
a
bit
of
an
update
on
you
know,
yeah,
I'm
glad
to
see
that
some
of
these
projects
are
moving,
but
we've
had
discussions
in
the
past
about
the
need
for
rental
assistance
and
I'm
wondering
if
any
of
the
the
city
staff
could
kind
of
update
us
on,
for
example,
the
housing
authority,
tbra
funds,
tbra
funds
particularly
look
like
the
ones
that
aren't
moving
and
I'm
curious.
K
A
Sorry,
yeah,
it's
been
an
ongoing
problem.
I'm
hearing
I've
heard
for
years
right.
This
is
not
a
new
problem.
I
don't
know.
I
know
there
are
some
initiatives
in
the
community
to
improve
education
and
to
seek
out
landlords
and
initiatives
to
improve
those
relationships,
and
even
is
everyone
familiar
with
thrive.
That's
operating
in
asheville.
A
Some
of
I
see
some
head
nods.
So
that's
a
program,
it's
a
non-profit
that
started
and
recognized
this
as
an
issue
and
has
been
working
to
contact
landlords
and
connect
landlords
with
tenants
and
working
with
the
housing
authority
and
trying
to
even
they
got
some
gap
funding
even
to
cover
what
the
voucher
pays
and
market
rent
so
that
little
bit
extra
they
receive
some
grant
money
to
close
that
gap
and
to
work
with
the
landlord.
A
So
that's
one
example:
it's
an
ongoing
problem
in
the
community
and
if
there
are
any
ideas
around
solving
it,
we
shouldn't
be
having
that
discussion
in
general
yeah.
L
L
Wlos
is
working
on
a
voucher
story
to
talk
about
the
need
for
the
community
to
be
a
part
of
the
solution
and
landlords,
particularly
some
of
the
smaller
ones
or
even
larger
apartment
complexes,
accepting
vouchers
so
they're
working
on
a
story
I
know,
and
then
otherwise
the
coordination
with
how
we're
bound,
but
still
working.
A
I
did
also
recently
see
I'm
sorry
andrew.
I
did
also
recently
see
that
the
housing
authority
was
looking
at
an
initiative
to
improve
the
voucher,
the
gap
after
the
voucher
between
market
rate
and
go
ahead
andrew.
What.
K
Are
you
gonna
say?
Maybe
this
is
an
item
that
we
can
put
a
pin
in
for
for
future
discussions
and
perhaps
get
kind
of
ongoing
updates
from
city
staff,
because
I
know
there
was
an
emphasis
on
our
spring
meeting
to
to
push
a
lot
of
these
funds
towards
rental
assistance,
and
then
there,
I'm
sure,
we'll
get
to
it
later.
K
It
looks
like
there's
still
an
ongoing
policy
issue
with
kind
of
setting
a
floor
of
20
of
our
award
to
go
to
our
rental
systems,
but
if
those
funds
aren't
actually
being
able
to
be
used,
despite
you
know
the
need
in
the
community,
that's
something
we
need
to
be
aware
of.
You
know
it
would
help
us
make
informed
decisions
for
future
funding
cycles.
K
If
you
know,
for
example,
if
the
housing
authority
still
has
two
or
three
contracts,
outstanding
we'd
love
to
see
them
use
those
funds,
perhaps
we
direct
funds
to
something
that
can
be
more
immediately
useful,
but
it
is.
A
It
is-
and
you
know
just
here
in
asheville
I'll-
let
you
know
on
tuesday
this
of
this
week
we
had
a
council
meeting
and
we
voted
on
and
approved
a
amendment
to
our
luigi
policy.
Our
land
use
incentive
grant
where
an
existing
before
it
had
been
for
new
construction.
So,
if
you
were
constructing,
you
were
coming
to
the
city,
you
could
receive
incentive
dollars
in
the
form
of
a
property
tax
rebate
like
a
synthetic
tif,
basically
to
include
and
incorporate
affordability
into
your
project
with
a
percent
percentage
required
to
accept
vouchers.
A
So
that
was
the
old
way
and
that's
way
still
exist,
but
we
have
expanded
it
to
existing
landlords
as
of
tuesday.
So
now,
if
you
own
a
fourplex,
an
eight
plex
150
apartments
and
you
wish
to
seek
property
tax
rebate,
you
can
come
to
us
and
request
that
with
a
certain
percentage
of
affordability-
and
I
believe
what
we
approved
is-
it
must
be
20
for
20
of
units
and
then
half
of
those
units
must
accept
vouchers.
A
So
I'm
sharing
this
because
all
of
our
communities
as
we
look
at
this
voucher
acceptance,
I
don't
want
to
say
failure,
but
we
return
about
half
of
the
funds
every
year
in
our
community
that
we
need
to
keep
our
eyes
open.
How
each
you
know
of
our
areas
and
regions
and
cities
is
operating
and
that's
been
a
really
big
move
for
our
city.
So
I'd
encourage
your
cities
to
look
at
it
as
well,
but
thanks
and
I
think
it's
a
good
idea
to
brainstorm
on
this
on
the
future.
M
Really
quickly,
this
is
mary,
brooke
cox
again
to
address
andrew's
concerns
with
tenant-based
rental
assistance
and
those
funds
flowing
those
funds
are
actually
moving
pretty
well,
despite
there
being
a
lot
of
money
in
rental
assistance,
so
the
housing
authority
is
currently
submitting
draw
requests
for
their
1819
contract.
That
will
be
closed
out
soon.
If
you'll
remember,
there
was
a
delay
in
the
city
getting
the
1920
funds,
so
we
just
now
are
sending
contracts
to
homer
bound
for
their
city
and
county
tenant-based
rental
assistance.
M
So
a
lot
of
that
is
more
of
a
hud
delay
and
we're
trying
to
get
contracts
signed
and
executed,
so
they
can
draw
down.
So
it's
kind
of
a
little
bit
of
a
timing
thing
there
and
then
just
just
further
there's
also
rental
assistance
money
in
the
cdbg
cv,
funds
that
homer
bound
and
pisco
is
doing
a
really
great
job
of
moving.
A
It's
a
great
reminder,
mary
brooke,
thank
you,
and
I
mean
this
might
be
the
first
time
in
my
history
in
this
city
that
we've
had
so
much
rental
assistance
available.
So
you
know
kudos
for
that,
but
we
have
to
especially
especially
stringent
in
our
review
and
maintenance,
and
you
know
getting
updates
on
how
it's
being
spent
so
good
questions
today.
Anyone
else
on
the
subject
before
we
keep
moving.
I
Sage,
this
is
matt
cable.
I
just
wanted
to
potentially
pose
an
item
for
an
upcoming
meeting
where
we
discuss
particularly,
I
mean
I
think
the
impetus
of
this
group
is
to
try
to
get
funding
out
as
quickly
as
possible,
and
we
understand
that
you
know
there
are
delays
from
hud.
There
are
things
that
happen
that
create
delays,
but
we
probably
need
to
look
at
at
what
point
we,
as
a
group
and
through
a
policy,
may
be
able
to
rescind
allocations
from
prior
years
and
take
those
back
and
reallocate
or
how
that
process
works.
I
I
just
you
know
I
hate
for
funding
to
be
stuck
and
the
staff
of
the
consortium
not
have
an
ability
to
come
back
to
us
and
say
what
do
we
do
with
this?
How
do
we
move
this
project
forward?
I
One
of
the
comments
is
that
they
were
unable
to
reach
one
of
the
recipients
right
like
they
can't
even
reach
that
individual,
and
so
I
think
maybe
we
look
at
you
know
what,
if
the
staff
could
bring
back
to
us
at
a
future
meeting,
what
parameters
they
have
to
make
adjustments,
how
we
would
reallocate
funding
if
we
can
and
have
a
discussion
about
you
know
what
point
we
would
want
to
to
have
those
conversations
so
that
we're
not
focusing
on
individual
projects
but
kind
of
looking
at
it
holistically.
I
I
think
all
of
us
when
we
look
at
this
list
are
thinking
we
have
so
much
need
and
we
still
have
money
from
17
and
18
that
hasn't
been
expended
right
like
we
could
have
potentially
impacted
a
project.
Now
with
that
funding
and
again
it's
nothing
against
the
applicant.
It's
just
what
processes
do
we
have
in
place
if
we
could
could
visit
that
at
the
future
meeting?
I
think
that
would
be
great.
A
I
think
that's
a
great
idea:
matthew
we've
been
dealing
with
that
in
other
areas
of
funding
with
our
housing,
trust
fund
and
stuff,
and
what
happens
when
a
project
falls
apart
and
simply
can't
continue,
and
you
know
how
do
we
receive
that
money
back
in
a
diligent
and
timely
manner
to
be
repurposed?
I
think
that's
a
great
idea
and
I'll
record
that
for
a
future
agenda
item,
any
other
questions
comments
about
this.
I
One
thing
I
meant
to
add:
I'm
sorry
it's
just
when
we
do
future
allocations.
If
there
are
some
time
parameters
too,
that
might
be
helpful
like
if
we're
allocating
and
we
kind
of
set.
This
is
when
we
expect
it
to
be
or
you're
going
to
be
up
for
reallocation.
I
A
E
A
Okay,
I
believe
we
are
done
now
with
item
three
and
moving
on
to
item
four
old
business
and
we've
got
a
hud
environmental
review
update.
I
know
if
you
haven't
seen
the
email
from
me
that
was
shortly
before
this
meeting.
I
do
request
that
you
look
at
it,
but
it
pertains
to
some
of
this.
So
I
know
folks
have
a
lot
of
things
to
share
on
this.
So
has
everyone
been
able
to
read
the
update?
Do
we
see
staff?
Did
you
want
to
share
anything
particularly.
L
So
we
have
this
since
our
monitoring
with
hud,
I
think
back
in
october
or
yeah
october
of
2019.
We
have
worked
through
all
of
our
issues.
The
one
that's
remaining
that
was
remaining
back
in
january,
is
still
dodd
meadows
and
trying
to
move
them
forward
with
their
project.
L
Speaking
about
older
funds
that
are
still
sitting
out
there
and
and
trying
to
work
with
our
habitat
friends
down
there
in
henderson
and
then
for
the
city's
plan,
which
I
think
is
item
for
discussion
that
when
it
comes
to
full
environmental
assessments,
we're
kind
of
offering
two
options.
One
is
that
the
developer
can
work
with
their
environmental
group
that
they
already
have
for
their
phase
one
when
an
environmental
assessment's
done
in
coordination
with
a
phase
one,
it's
more
efficient
and
it's
cheaper
for
the
developer
to
move
forward.
L
We,
of
course,
are
the
participating
jurisdiction.
It's
our
job
to
minister
that
and
follow
along
with
that
environmental
assessment
as
where
the
participating
jurisdiction
and
responsible
entity.
So
we
give
the
developer
that
option,
which
we
think
has
worked
well
in
an
example
from
this
past
year.
L
Otherwise
they
can
choose
to
work
with
us
where
we
are
going
to
be
contracting
out
with
the
wood
group
who's
currently
under
contract,
to
where
we
will
do
the
ea
through
that
service
still
walking
through
it,
with
our
weekly
or
bi
weekly
meetings,
we're
responsible
and
we're
working
in
heroes,
and
so
just
the
clarity
that
cd
staff
feels
that
that's
the
best
way
to
work
through
these
based
on
capacity
and
expertise.
L
And
we
have
worked
with
talking
with
our
hud
home.
G
L
About
how
other
municipalities
do
this,
and
so
the
two
options
we
have
for
the
developer,
to
do
it
on
their
own,
where
it
adds
it's
a
soft
cost
which
is
eligible
with
the
policy.
It
adds
about
twenty
five
hundred
dollars
for
combining
a
phase
one
with
an
ea.
L
Otherwise
we
would
do
that
through
the
wood
group,
who's
under
contract,
currently
with
the
city.
If
we
didn't
have
anyone
under
contract,
I
believe
we'd
have
to
rfp
the
environmental
assessment
every
time.
So,
as
we've
worked
through
this
review
from
hud
and
again
five
items
or
four
items
that
were
found,
three
of
which
were
from
before
our
times,
we're
working
through
this
our
capacity,
what
makes
the
most
sense
for
projects
etc?
So
that's
where
we
are
going
to
go.
L
I
might
let
nancy
discuss
that
if
and
she's
on
the
call-
if
I
understand
it
correctly,
our
hud
environmental
review
person
wants
to
separate
out
certain
aspects
of
the
build
so
that
certain
land
can
never
be
built
on.
So
we
have
to
work
to
get
the
covenants
done
for
a
very
odd-shaped
piece
of
land,
so
ron's
been
trying
to
work
through
that,
and
it's
been
very
difficult
he's
trying
to
work
with
his
legal
folks.
It's
not
something
that
we
would
do
to
draw
that
out
or
anything.
L
O
It's
ron,
lauter
is
working
on
getting
the
covenants
in
place
for
the
wetlands
in
the
watershed,
and
so
we're
just
not
been
on
hold,
and
basically
it's
been
ready
to
go
for
place
since
january,
and
so
we're
just
on
hold
with
him
working
with
his
legal
team
and
getting
it
all
pulled
together.
H
Okay,
the
reason
I
ask
is
I
was
the
grant
administrator
for
the
county
and
did
the
environmental
review
for
the
dodd
meadows
project
for
the
community
facility
and
the
water
sewer
and
street
improvements
back
in
2013,
and
I
was
surprised
to
see
this
to
be
a
concern
when
an
environmental
was
completed
and
finalized
and
released.
The
funds
were
completed.
That
project
was
completed
long
ago.
So
I
was
surprised.
O
So
when
that
was
done,
the
city
and
the
consortium,
as
the
responsible
entities
needed
to
take
note
about
the
changes
in
the
revisions
with
the
addition
of
the
community
center
and
the
revision
to
the
road
layout
and
the
whole
subdivision
layout,
and
that
was
what
our
environmental
rep
noted
in
our
finding
was
that
so
this
was
years
ago,
this
was
like
really
old
and
so
basically
came
back
and
then
with
the
addition
of
the
land.
O
What
the
environmental
rep
said
is
that
he
wanted
to
do
an
environmental
review
for
the
whole
33
acres,
and
so
we
have
gotten
that
done
with
their
environmental
firm,
which
is
alpha
environmental,
and
then
we
were
just
waiting
on
getting
the
language
in
the
covenant
done
and
getting
that
recorded.
O
G
H
So
it
wasn't
so
much
that
the
phase
that
was
the
water
sewer
streets
and
the
community
center,
it
was
the
bigger
picture
of
the
entire
facility,
the
entire
subdivision
site.
D
O
O
I
O
H
L
K
Right
so
I
think
yeah.
There
are
two
issues
here,
which
is
the
the
final
close
out
of
that
audit,
which
is
from
2019,
and
I
think,
we're
all
probably
as
anxious
as
the
city
staff
is
to
get
that
wrapped
up.
It's
not
ever
great
to
have
open
audit
findings
hanging
over
you,
particularly
as
year
after
year.
K
Funding
comes
in,
and
you
know
I
I
know
lynn
would
as
well-
and
I
know
certainly
you
know-
lynnwood
is
very,
very
technical
and
precise
in
what
he
wants
to
see
and
can
it
can
really
potentially
affect
a
project.
If
lynn,
would
you
know,
for
example,
in
a
new
award
wants
to
see
certain
things
that
can
affect
the
timing
of
projects,
so
I
think
clearing.
K
That
is
something
we
should
yeah
emphasize
and
I'm
glad
you
guys
are
doing
that
and
then
there's
the
other
issue
of
kind
of
what
we
do
going
forward,
and
I
want
to
come
back
to
that
as
well.
But
I
think
last
thing
on
the
monitoring
report.
Would
it
possibly
be
helpful
for
the
board?
You
know
karen
me
anyone
else
who
wants
to
join
as
well
as
city
staff
in
linwood
to
get
together
and
have
a
call
and
kind
of
talk
about
some
of
the
last
items
that
we
need
to
resolve
and
kind
of.
K
K
You
were
not
the
chairman
at
that
time,
but
julie
mayfield
was,
and
we
had
a
bit
of
a
discussion
on
this
matter,
last
fall
and
didn't
really
come
to
a
final
agreement
on
how
we
were
going
to
proceed,
or
rather
how
city
staff
is
going
to
proceed
with
our
approval
for
this
issue,
and
I
was
a
little
distressed
to
see
that
then
the
spring
applications
that
was
included
in
the
the
questionnaire
for
many
applicants
are
you
willing
to
pay
for
the
environmental
review
that
dialogue
last
year
again
with
council,
former
councilman
mayfield
was
that
you
know,
should
the
city
decide
to
pursue
that
it
was
going
to
be
something
that
would
affect
their
admin
costs,
and
I
think
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
perhaps
come
to
a
point
on
this
discussion
today.
K
Now
that
we
have
a
public
meeting
is,
is
what
is
our
path
going
forward?
What
is
the
board
comfortable
with
and
what
is
the
city
comfortable
with,
and
I
can
say
just
as
my
own
opinion
as
a
board
member,
I
just
want
it
done
done
promptly
and
done
right,
so
these
projects
can
move
forward
if
the
city
doesn't
feel
that
they
have
the
capacity
to
do
that.
That's
understandable,
but
I
think,
having
kind
of
a
formal
idea
of
what
we
do
is
a
really
good
idea
and
kind
of
building
on
paul's
note
earlier.
K
I
would
not
be
comfortable
with
asking
developers
in
particular,
but
applicants
to
identify
and
pay
for
their
own
environmental
review.
I
know
it's
a
modest
cost,
but
you
know
I've
done
these
things
before
and
and
there's
an
inherent
conflict
of
interest
there.
That
could
be
problematic.
I'm
not
comfortable
with
that
idea.
What
I
am
really
comfortable
with
is
taking
from
admin
from
home
and
contracting
with
someone
to
do
that.
K
If
it's
this
group
would
or
lambda
sky,
let's
come
up
with
a
plan
to
just
get
this
done,
make
it
fluid,
and
I
don't
know
if
that's
a
point
of
discussion
for
us
today,
but
from
again
my
one
board
member
perspective.
I
would
really
like
this,
you
know
again
from
admin
to
contract
with
an
entity
that
picks
up
these
reviews.
K
I'd
really
like
to
address
this
today
and
figure
something
out,
because
that
would
then
affect
the
fall
meeting,
and
you
know
you
deal
with
a
lot
of
developers.
Chairman
turner,
I
mean
a
month
two
months,
three
months
in
an
environment
like
this,
that
can
mean
lumber
prices
go
up
that
can
fundamentally
affect
the
project.
So
I
really
would
like
to
come
to
a
consensus
between
the
board
and
the
city
on
how
we
handle
this
and
that
you
know
I
don't
know
if
anyone
else
wants
to
speak
up.
A
Thing,
let
me
just
say
the
first
question:
it
sounds
like
nancy
and
paul,
and
maybe
perhaps
mary
brooke
can
gather
amongst
themselves
and
see
if
they
need
additional
support
for
many
board
members
who
would
like
to
welcome
them
into
the
conversation
with
that
particular
project.
I'll
leave
that
on
them
it's
their
choice,
but
this
next
one.
So
what
I'm
hearing
is?
You
know
I
will
speak
from
the
developer
side
when
we
carry
out
environmental
testing
and
studies,
the
phase
one
phase,
all
of
it.
It
is
easier
to
combine
those
efforts.
Now.
A
What
I'm
also
hearing
is?
Do
we
want
to
pass
that
additional
cost
on
to
those
developers?
So
I
guess
I'm
hearing
three
things:
do
we
want
to
pass
the
cost?
Do
we
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
expedited
and
efficient
so
that
these
projects
aren't
held
up
because
to
andrew's
point,
hold
ups
are
expensive
and
do
we
if
we
don't
feel
that
we
can
handle
it
in-house,
because
we
also
have
a
capacity
problem
and
have
not
created
any
new
positions
to
help
with
this
capacity
building,
then
the
third
party
option.
A
So
I
don't
know
that
everybody
on
this
committee
has
had
enough
time
to
even
I
mean
this
wasn't
a
particular
agenda
item
to
discuss.
I
don't
know
if
everybody
has
the
ability
to
discuss
and
adequately.
You
know
create
a
decision
today,
but
I
think
it
is
something
we
can
do
on
a
future
agenda
meeting
and
if
there's
other
comments
or
kind
of
questions
about
you
know
what
this
means
or
if
there's
other
layers
we
want
to
add
to
it
in
a
future
discussion.
I
guess
this
would
be
the
point.
L
Can
respond
quickly
just
to
a
couple
things
sage,
I
appreciate
all
the
offers
to
help
out
with
dodd
meadows.
Please
know
that
nancy
and
I
are
in
pretty
constant
communication
with
ron
just
emailing
over
the
weekend
about
hey
how's
it
going
with
legal
what's
up
with
the
covenants
and
he
is
responding
back
that
he's
still
working
through
it.
So
the
ball
has
been
in
his
court,
but
we
are
there
checking
in
pretty
much
weekly
or
bi-weekly
to
see
what
we
can
do
there
and
then
regarding.
L
We
did
look
and
worked
with
our
home
hud
donna
anderson
about
this
and
regarding
the
fact
of
developers,
seem
to
like
the
idea
that
of
the
efficiency
moving
through
quicker,
the
very
low
soft
cost
of
2500,
and
what
we
like
about
that
is.
It
provides
the
two
options
and
other
municipalities
do
this,
and
we
still
as
the
participating
jurisdiction
and
we're
responsible
for
the
entities.
L
We
don't
just
turn
it
over
to
the
environmental
folks
we're
with
them
in
weekly
and
bi-weekly
meetings,
which
nancy
can
talk
about
that
we
work
through
them.
Through
the
entire
process.
Ask
questions.
We
usually
have
a
big
meeting
towards
the
end
where
a
few
of
us
are
brought
in
on
the
call
so
we're
following
along
the
whole
way,
but
we
find
that
it
moves
very
efficiently
and
so
far
the
developers
like
it,
and
then
we
do
have
the
other
option
where
we
would
do
that
with
the
contractor.
L
We
do
have
wood
group
under
contract,
so
that's
easier
than
rfping,
and
then
we
can
work
through
that.
What
I
also
like
about
it
is
the
fact
that
the
environmental
review
experts,
who
are
the
experts
and
who
do
this
every
day
versus
us
once
a
year.
They
are
in
this
type
of
work
all
the
time
they
are:
the
experts,
noise
levels,
all
those
controls,
10
years
down
the
line,
etc.
So
we
feel
like
it's
a
a
great
opportunity
as
a
participating
jurisdiction.
L
You
know,
I
think
I
think
sarah
turlinger
is
on
this
call
like
within
the
purview.
I
don't
know
if
this
is
something
that
the
consortium
votes
on
with
us
as
our
capacity,
but
we
do
appreciate
the
conversation
very
much,
but
we
have
looked
to
make
sure
that
other
municipalities
do
this
and
we
feel
like
we're
offering
two
options,
both
of
which
can
be
moved
forward.
I
Typically,
you
are
reviewed
in
terms
of
documentation
and
practices
and
policies,
and
then
you
receive
you
know
a
letter
of
findings
and
a
time
frame
in
which
to
respond,
and
so
and
then
you
provide
a
response
right,
and
so
what
I
think
you
know
for
the
benefit
of
the
public
and
also
for
the
the
consortium
is
just.
F
I
Mean
because
you
know
at
some
point,
this
should
close
out
and
it's
usually
a
pretty
short
time
frame
and
what
I
think
we're
looking
for
is
an
understanding
of
you
know
what
has
been
provided.
What
items
remain
open
in
terms
of
preventing
that
the
closing
of
the
findings
right,
so
we
can
see
that
the
city
staff
has
taken
corrective
action.
I
They've
provided
additional
documentation,
they've
modified
policies
and
procedures,
they've
sought
out
training
for
staff
they're,
looking
at
different
approaches-
and
I
think
you
know
what's
not
clear-
is
we
don't
have
that
final
close-out
letter
right
we're
not
seeing
what's
closed,
but
we're
also
not
100
clear
on
what
is
a
remaining
open
item
like
what
is
the
hold
up
exactly
and
if
it's
just
god
meadows,
I
think
getting
that
clarity
like
what
what
has
been
provided.
What
has
been
the
feedback
from?
I
Why
isn't
it
closed
yet,
and
so
again,
I
just
wanted
to
bring
up
the
point
of
about
how
these
processes
work
and
kind
of
what
the
normal
procedures
are,
and
it
sounds
like
you
know.
The
city
keeps
actually
moving
this
direction,
but
making
sure
we
understand
what
the
hold
up
is
and
so
that
we
can
get
this
closed.
L
L
We
are
waiting
on
this
final
part
from
the
developer
and
we
want
to
be
a
good
partner
to
ron
who's
really
been
in
this
for
many
years
and
again,
that's
the
last
thing
we're
waiting
on
to
submit
what
this
update
is,
which
is
our
our
corrective
action
letter
back
to
lenwood,
but
that
is
what
we're
waiting
on
and
we've
even
had
the
discussions
that
there's
only
a
year
left
to
spend
this
funding,
and
we've
talked
to
ron
about
that.
L
That's
a
concern
money,
that's
sitting
on
the
table
that
we
of
course
recognize
but
balancing
that
act
between
being
a
good
partner
working
through
you
know
some
some
difficulties
where
you
know
some
folks
didn't
think
we
even
needed
to
do
an
environmental
assessment
again
to
karen's
point
on
this
whole
33
acres,
but
we
were
directed
to
and
so
yep
and
that's
why,
for
this
we
have
this
review
for
you
all,
just
as
an
update
that
this
is
where
we're
at.
L
But
the
synopsis
is
waiting
on
dodd
meadows,
trying
to
be
a
good
partner,
not
sure
when
we'll
pull
the
plug
and
but
trying
to
make
it
work
for
him.
D
Thank
you.
Thank
you
both.
I
wanted
to
say
that
you
know.
One
of
the
things
that
is
most
important
to
me
is
that
we
don't
consciously
or
unconsciously
do
anything
to
increase
the
cost
of
developing
affordable
housing.
You
know
that's
for
me,
that's
just
basic
to
everything
that
we
do.
D
I
do,
though,
really
appreciate
contracting
with
the
woods
group
to
get
this
done,
and
I
think
that
satisfies
the
concerns
that
I've
had
about
environmental
reviews
being
done
by
city
staff
and
passing
on
that
cost
or
and
or
passing
on
that
cost
to
developers.
So
I
really
appreciate
the
steps
that
you
take
it
in
that
direction.
A
I
agree
robin
it
sounds,
like
you
know,
expeditious
sure
enough
assureness
of
how
to
even
do
this.
So
a
third
party
does
seem
like
a
great
thing,
because
I'm
hearing
that
staff
it's
too
much
and
I'm
hearing
that
we
don't
want
to
put
it
on
the
developer
themselves.
So
I
think
that's
a
good
solution.
I
don't
think
something
we
need
to
actually
vote
on.
Andrew
did,
I
see
your
hand,
go
back
up.
K
Yes
and
I'd
like
to
to
come
back
to
a
comment
paul
may
that
I'd
like
to
clarify-
and
I
think
it
may
inform
the
tbr
esu
as
well.
The
point
you
made
paul
about
sarah
twilliger
being
in
the
room-
and
I
think,
kind
of
verifying
that
with
I
guess
the
c
clerk's
office-
is
that
your
interpretation
is
that,
regardless
of
guidance
from
the
board,
for
example,
on
the
environmental
reviews
and
how
we'd
like
you
to
conduct
them
that
decision
and
that
authority
is
ultimately
with
city
staff,
and
that
is
not
a
board
decision.
K
K
A
Paul
andrew
I'll
find
out
as
your
chair.
This
is
only
my
third
meeting,
but
I
too
have
these
questions.
You
know
what
is
the
role
of
this
board
in
this
advisory
capacity
in
this
voting
capacity,
I
did
inquire
a
little
bit
and
learned
that
you
know
traditionally,
the
board
has
really
met
twice
a
year
to
work
on
allocation
and
reallocation
in
the
fall,
and
so
I'm
a
little
confused
as
well,
and
because
it
seems
that
we're
moving
into
more
frequent
meetings
now
meeting
quarterly
and
I
saw
in
an
email-
maybe
a
request
for
more
often.
A
So
what
would
that
look
like
you
know,
and
what
does
that?
What
does
that
purview?
Look
like?
I
looked
at
our
bylaws
and
so
on,
but
I
need
to
catch
up
on
that,
and
that
is
something
that
perhaps
I
could
start
by
following
up
with
you
on
andrew
and
if
it
needs
to
be
an
agenda
item,
or
perhaps
I
could
issue
an
update
to
the
consortium,
but
I
think
that's
probably
the
next
step.
A
A
D
Hear
you
it's
back
up.
Okay,
go
ahead.
I
just
wanted
to
offer
a
little
bit
of
historical
information.
That's
a
little
different
than
what
you
just
shared,
and
I
barbara
bulk
is
not
here.
So
I
think
I'm
probably
the
person
on
here
who's
been
around
the
consortium
the
longest,
and
I
know
that
in
kind
of
the
the
2000s
you
know
prior
to
2010,
the
consortium
met,
I
think,
bi-monthly
and
had
a
variety
of
things
that
they
discussed
on
the
agenda,
which
wasn't
always
about
allocations.
D
I
know
in
my
capacity
as
an
attorney
at
pisco
legal
services
I
presented
to
them
on
fair
housing,
so
it
was.
I
think
it
was
a
little
different
than
it
is
now
and
that
might
have.
I
don't
know
the
reasons
for
that,
and
I
don't
know
that
they
necessarily
matter,
but
I
think
that
we
as
a
board
could
decide
how
often
we
wanted
to
meet
and
what
we
wanted
to
talk
about,
and
maybe
it's
just
because
I
like
talking
about
housing
and
housing
stuff
and
like
talking
about
it
with
other
smart
people.
L
Just
to
jump
in
quickly,
I
think
all
you
all
know
just
that.
Our
commitment
from
the
city
side
has
been.
You
know
when
I
first
came
to
the
city.
It
was
like
just
the
kind
of
frantic
funding
meetings
and
I
don't
know
if
that
was
just
that
time.
But
we've
committed
took
a
look
at
the
bylaws
to
be
like.
Let's
do
this
quarterly
we're
trying
to
share
as
much
information
out
as
possible
whenever
we
can,
which
is
we
enjoy,
and
the
educational
opportunities
around?
What
is
home
funding?
How
does
it
work?
L
What's
the
best
way
to
distribute
it,
taking
a
look
at
who's,
not
spending
funding
from
the
past,
so
we
are
actually
enjoying
these
other
quarterly
meetings.
The
non-funding
meetings,
as
an
information
sharing
to
kind
of-
maybe
I
don't
know,
get
back
to
the
way
it
used
to
be
back
then
robin
but
possibly
you
know
the
good
discussions
that
could
possibly
happen
and
sharing
and
then
and
then
exactly
what
the
role
is
on.
Certain
things
can
be
figured
out,
but
I
know
it's
the
participating
jurisdiction.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Everyone,
I'm
getting
a
little
worried
about
time,
because
we
didn't
really
set
aside
time
to
have
this
broad
discussion.
So
what
I'm
going
to
suggest
is
that
I
learn
more
about
the
past
and
the
history
and
then
continue
to
work
with
staff
on
the
bylaws
and
such,
and
we
may
actually
need
this
as
an
agenda
item
in
the
future,
along
with
the
frequency
of
meetings.
So
what
it
is
we
are
doing.
What
it
is.
A
H
Karen,
I
would
completely
agree
and
request
that
we
have
this
as
at
our
next
meetings
on
the
next
meetings
agenda.
I
think
this
is
an
important
conversation
that
we
need
to
have,
particularly
when
it
comes
to
active
projects
so
that
we
can
stay
on
top
of
projects
that
are
falling
behind.
I
think
this
would
greatly
support
keeping
projects
on
task
and
on
within
their
time
frame
and
meeting
the
project
program.
Mild,
post
milestones.
A
Great,
thank
you,
and
you
know,
there's
always
ways
to
do
better
right.
So
I'm
going
to
use
this
opportunity
to
restate
what
I
said
in
my
email,
which
is
it
is
always
okay,
and
I
will
actually
request
at
this
time
that
if
you
have
things
you
want
as
future
agenda
items
or
topics
or
concerns
email
me
call
me.
That's
fine,
but
please
do
not
email
the
group
in
a
discussive
manner,
because
that
is
not
allowed
and
can
be
construed
as
having
public
or
non-public
conversation.
A
And
when
we
are
a
consortium
and
we're
responsible
for
doling
out
funds,
it
is
imperative
that
we
maintain
these
conversations
in
the
public
and
in
a
proper
order,
so
that
if
there
was
you
know
if
everyone
on
this
commission
or
consortium
wasn't
ready
to
talk
about
that
and
we
started
to
move
and
vote
on
it
or
discuss
it
in
email
and
be
very
problematic.
So,
let's,
if
you
have
things
for
future
agenda
items,
I'm
keeping
notes,
but
if
you
want
to
reach
out
to
me
directly
and
have
that
conversation
and
suggestions,
please
do
okay.
A
M
Yes,
so
this
this
is
great
timing
for
this
hello.
Again,
everyone,
mary,
brooke
cox,
vision
properties,
was
awarded
home
funding
for
two
consecutive
grant
years,
so
they
were
awarded
in
2018,
2019
and
then
2019
2020.
The
total
of
both
awards
is
60
000
city
staff
reached
out
to
the
developer
on
several
occasions.
M
This
this
particular
these
two
projects
never
went
to
contract.
For
various
reasons.
M
We
followed
up
with
a
developer,
trying
to
come
up
with
a
plan
to
figure
out
how
to
get
the
money
spent
in
a
timely
fashion
and
unfortunately,
the
developer
cannot
meet
that
timeline,
so
the
money
will
need
to
come
back
to
the
consortium
and
be
re
reallocated
in
september,
but
we
do
have
an
official
close
out
of
both
of
those
grants
where.
A
L
And
just
this
is,
it
is
interesting.
You
know
we
never.
You
know
talking
about
to
matt
cable's
point,
which
is
a
good
one
about
rescinding
funds
and
all
this,
but
that
I
think
some
of
y'all
particularly
stage
have
seen
our
work
around
cdbg
and
really
trying
to
guide
that
funding
about
who
we're
awarding
who's
got
the
capacity
to
move
funding.
And
all
of
that-
and
it's
the
same
thing
here-
that
we've
tried
to
do
as
well
with
home
funding.
That
said,
it's
always
rough
to
be.
Like
sorry,
we're
going
to
take.
L
You
know
we
want
to
be
good
partners
and
take
it
as
far
as
we
can
dodd
meadows
being
an
example
now,
unfortunately,
vision
properties,
we
could
never
get
to
contract.
I
know
several
folks
know
that
here,
and
so
it
is
an
interesting
line
to
walk,
and
we
do
appreciate
the
guidance
and
help
on
that.
L
It's
always
tough
to
pull
funding,
but
it
does
mean
that
we
need
to
do
our
best
to
make
sure
information
sharing
on
the
front
end
before
we
do
the
awards
to
a
group
that
might
not
be
able
to
move
a
project
forward.
A
Agree
and
to
matthew's
point
earlier:
you
know
from
the
very
beginning
understanding
what
that
process
looks
like
for
both
our
and
and
the
developers.
End
will
only
benefit
the
project
itself.
So
we've
got
that
on
for
next
item.
We
don't
need
any
actual
movement
on
this.
This
is
an
fyi
on
the
vision
properties.
A
D
I
have
a
question
real
quick:
do
you
think
we'll
have
this
money
available
to
reallocate
at
the
ball
meeting?
I
think
that's
the
goal.
A
E
A
Okay,
now
we
are
on
to
item
4c
home
policy
addendums
for
clarity,
second
round
funding
and
applications.
Paul
did
you
want
to
speak
to
this
and
we've
got
some
highlighted.
A
L
So
we
these
we
we
put
on
for
discussion
with
just
some
general
guidance.
You
know
with
just
us
city
staff
trying
to
think
about
some
things
that
we
notice,
especially
in
the
funding
and
the
second
round
funding
of
some
clarity
of
you-
know,
a
loan
versus
grant
or
whether
it's
the
language
in
january.
I
think
similar
to
probably
what
will
happen
today.
L
So
if
we
need
to
set
up
an
all-day
meeting
in
september
for
a
lot
of
these
discussion
items
or
a
half-day
meeting,
because
it'll
be
funding
as
well,
we're
just
trying
to
you
know,
get
guidance
from
the
consortium
about
number
one,
the
biggest
thing
being
the
second
round
language,
which
I
think
we've
come
to
a
good
language.
L
Sorry
a
good
way
to
say
that
so
that
when
august
happens
for
the
second,
when
the
tax
credit
awards
are
announced-
and
we
have
additional
funding
which
we
should
I'm
assuming,
then
we
immediately
try
to
go
back
out
with
the
second
round
application
of
eligibility.
If
you
all
can
see
in
the
attachment
the
highlighted
language
again-
and
I
we
don't
have
to
make
this
an
official
addendum
at
the
moment.
L
But
this
is
us
just
trying
to
get
to
a
point
where
this
is
the
language
we
want
to
put
out
for
this
august
if
we
have
additional
funding-
and
we
just
wanted
to
see
if
everyone
was
comfortable
with
that
any
suggestions-
matt
cable-
I
know
last
year
you
had
a
lot
of
thoughts
on
this-
that
hopefully
we
incorporated
and
we
staff
really
worked
on
it,
but
that's
our
second
round
language.
L
L
It's
really
important
for
us
sage
to
get
the
word
out
once
we
know
we
have
funding
to
share
that
to
everybody
and
to
be
real,
clear.
A
K
Yeah
as
a
general,
please
yeah
sorry
as
a
gym
as
a
general
principal
I'm,
not
in
favor,
of
placing
too
many
restrictions
on
what
we
can
consider
as
far
as
an
application,
whether
in
the
first
cycle
or
second
cycle,
but
there
are
two
in
particular
here.
I
want
to
kind
of
point
out.
One
of
those
is
related
to
the
the
cottages
at
oklahoma,
which
the
the
note
says
is
still
kind
of
struggling
to
to
fill
out
their
funding
gap,
and
that
is
a
choto
product
project
as
well.
K
It's
a
hack
project,
so
I
wouldn't
want
to
exclude
the
potential
to
bring
that
project
back,
particularly
if
we
have
a
concerto
need.
You
know.
So
I
wouldn't
you
know
it'd
be
great
if
we
had
another
cheddar
project,
but
I'd
like
to
be
able
to
consider
that
one
again,
if
a
small
reallocation
of
home
funny.
L
Andrew
did
bullet
point
two
cover
that,
because
we
put
that
in
there
there
for
bullet
point
two,
where
you're
thinking
about
older
projects,
so
in
bullet
point
two
projects
that
were
fully
funded
or
previous
year,
projects
that
have
not
gone
to
contract
that
can
show
a
demonstrated
need
for
additional
funding.
Okay,.
K
It
just
yeah-
hopefully
you
guys-
can
communicate
with
hack
that
we'd
like
to
see
them.
I
think
that's,
okay,
yeah,
that's
a
project
for,
I
think
developmentally
disabled
adults
and
I
think,
would
have
a
really
really
strong
impact
for
that
community.
The
second
is-
and
I
saw
it
I
think
in
one
of
the
other
documents
as
well.
K
This
was
kind
of
in
the
preamble,
but
really
don't
want
to
move
forward
yet
with
a
20
dedicated
to
tbra,
until
we
can
have
again
just
a
broader
dialogue,
and
I
think
in
particular
with
the
with
the
tbr
resources
that
are
coming
into
this
area
right
now.
The
funds
that
are
hung
up-
and
you
know
again,
I
think,
a
concern
I
articulate
at
the
last
meeting
is
you
know
I
represent
buncombe
county
and
I
you
know
my
immediate
and
primary
concern
is
buncombe
county,
but
you
know
some
of
these.
K
Other
communities
may
be
disadvantaged
because
they
don't
have
entities
that
can
really
access
those
tbra
funds.
So
if
we
set
aside
20
percent,
madison,
transylvania
and
henderson
folks
may
be
a
slight
disadvantage,
and
I
I
just
don't
want
to
see
that
affect
funding
before
we
come
to
a
full
decision.
E
L
And
I
know
it'll
be
a
great
discussion
that
we
have,
and
unfortunately
our
homeless
folks
couldn't
be
here,
because
of
course
they
want
to
see
as
much.
You
know
tbra
and
we
need
to
get
the
rental
assistance
out.
But
again
we
put
these
out
there
for
just
good
discussion
points
for
us
to
figure
out
doesn't
have
to
be
figured
out
today.
We
always
need
more
time,
but
it
is
something
that
I
think
you
know
as
we
try
to
get
guidance
on
the
funding.
L
We
appreciate
the
conversation
so
again
to
the
end
game
here.
If
we
need
to
have
an
all-day
meeting
in
september,
sage
are
happy
to
do
it.
F
G
A
Okay,
I
saw
matthew
cable's
hand,
go
up.
I
I
Because
of
the
time
constraints
you
know
turning
those
around
taking
an
in-depth
look.
If
it
wasn't
in
some
way
restricted,
you
could
be
looking
at.
You
know,
10
new
applications
that
you've
never
had
to
evaluate
before
in
addition
to
existing
open
applications.
So
I
think
it
is
sensible
and
reasonable,
and
it
looks
like
what
they've
described
is
basically
any
application
that
we
already
have
on
file,
whether
that
project
scope
may
have
changed
and
require
some
additional.
I
You
know
submittal
of
documents
or
if
the
scope
was
as
originally
proposed
and
wasn't
fully
funded,
it's
basically
allowing
anyone
who's,
basically
existing
as
a
recipient
and
anyone
who
didn't
receive
initially,
you
know
so
who
has
applied
in
the
last
year
to
be
considered.
So
I
feel,
like
you
know
this
language
speaks
to
that
and
really
just
preserves
staff
time
to
manage
things
like
project
oversight
and
administration
and
the
other
aspects
of
what
they
have
to
do,
while
not
taking
on
another.
I
B
B
It
is
a
priority
in
our
consolidated
plan.
I
think
it
was
deemed
a
high
priority
if
I'm
wrong,
paul
or
staff
correct
me
on
that.
But
I
don't
have
the
plan
in
front
of
me,
but
I
feel
like
it
was
a
priority.
As
part
of
that
plan
we've
adopted,
I
don't
know
that
20
is
the
right
number
necessarily
and
I
understand
the
other
jurisdictions
have
different
needs,
but
I
also
know
that
tbr
a
is
a
useful
funding
stream
and
you
know
asheville.
Obviously
we
have
to
deal
with
the
brunt.
B
So
I
would
I
do
like
the
idea
of
since
that
is
a
priority
in
the
plan
having
some
acknowledgement
or
trying
to
fund
some
of
those
requests,
and
maybe
a
policy
supporting
that
again.
Maybe
20
is
not
the
exact
right
number,
but
I
just
want
to.
I
feel
like
I
need
to
say
that
that
is
a
really
big
issue
in
the
community
in
our
community
and
something
that
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
totally
discount
and
nobody
on
this
call
is
going
to
do
that.
P
Good
afternoon,
actually,
it's
still
morning,
ben's
correct.
The
consolidated
plan
was
a
huge
process
with
public
meetings
and
to
modify
that
you'd
have
to
go
back
and
do
all
those
public
meetings
all
over
again,
because
it
would
be
a
significant
modification
to
your
plan.
P
So
this
really
would
be
a
discussion
for
the
next
time
when
you
redo
your
plan,
not
really
stopping
in
midstream
and
trying
to
reinvent
a
program
that
the
community
already
bought
into.
So
I'm
here
on
an
advisory
capacity,
but
I'm
trying
to
save
you
a
lot
of
time
and
effort
at
the
same
time.
So
it's
not
really
the
time
for
that.
G
G
G
G
It
sounds
like
we're
having
a
challenge
to
scale
we're
all
kind
of
the
same
boat.
We
just
it's
hard
to
say
for
sure
that
concerns
me,
but
I
understand
what
we
need
to
do,
but
to
say
now's,
not
the
time
you
know,
I'm
not.
Okay
with.
A
So
this
comes
up
in
august
right,
I'm
wondering
if
the
best
thing
to
do
here
because
of
the
timing
is
for
me
to
follow
up
with
your
individual
communities
like
eu
forests,
who
may
not
be
able
to
apply
this
in
the
way
that
we're
applying
it
to
your
community
and
just
to
further
discuss
it
and
see
if
there's
something
that
we
can
relay
back
to
staff
around
20
percent
versus
18
or
15,
or
what
that
might
look
like.
L
And
sage
paul
here
again
I
if
to
make
a
recommendation,
you
know
we
do
have
the
funding
meeting
in
september
and
summer
time.
I
guess
when
people
are
getting
back
out
there,
but
but
perhaps
these
two
issues
again
where
we
look
at
you
all
for
policy
guidance
here
that
you
know,
perhaps
these
two
items,
whether
it's
you
know
the
tbra
or
loan
versus
grant.
We
could
really
ask
everyone
to
to
take
a
look
at
those
and
and
be
prepared
to
speak
on
them
in
september.
L
L
About
the
second
round
language,
I
think
again
repeating
myself.
If
the
homeless
folks
were
here,
they
would
fight
for
tbra.
I
think
the
overall
message
is:
we
need
more
landlords
to
accept,
accept
time
to
pay
for
rental
assistance
across
our
consortium
and
then
also
you
know
what
constitutes
a
loan
and
a
grant
where
we're
trying
to
understand
you
know
home
funds
in
general
are
to
be
paid
back,
but
we
do
feel
there's
some
opportunity
for
some
grant
opportunities
there.
L
So
not
sure
what
you
think
there,
but
again
if
we
did
a
half
day
or
full
day
meeting
in
september,
you
know,
maybe
everyone
could
bring
back
their
points
and
we
could
decide
or
not
decide
and
leave
like,
for
example,
hey
we're
gonna,
look
at
all
the
applications
every
year
and
look
at
who's
got
the
best
application,
whether
it's
tbra
or
not,
while
remembering
our
priorities,
so
just
a
thought
there,
based
on
time.
A
Yeah
and
I'm
I'm
thinking
about
the
september
meeting
and
the
length
of
it
and
the
many
important
items
that
will
be
on
it.
It's
making
me
wonder
to
robin's
point.
If
occasionally,
we
need
a
an
additional
meeting
to
really
look
at
procedure.
A
You
know
how
we
operate,
what
the
policies
are
when
to
you
know
something
I'm
thinking
about.
If
we
get
to
that
point
with
adding
so
many
items,
we
might
need
to
do
that.
A
I
So
you
know
we
receive
these
documents
and
I
it
doesn't
sound
like
anyone's
ready
to
move
forward
and
I'll
just
touch
on
the
tbra
aspect,
briefly,
which
is
I'm
not
in
favor
of
having
any
set
aside
for
any
particular
type
of
sub
program,
not
that
that
program
doesn't
merit
being
recognized,
but
our
job
is
to
evaluate
programs
on
their
merits
in
comparison
to
each
other,
because
we
have
a
limited
amount
of
funding.
I
But
you
know
I
think,
with
these
items
going
forward,
particularly
if
we
know
what
action
it
is
that
we're
asked
to
take
right.
If
this,
if
city
staff
is
sending
this
item
forward
to
us,
is
that
in
our
purview.
So
this
speaks
to
a
larger
item
of
what
are
we
in
charge
of
versus
what
you
know
is
delegated
as
kind
of
the
admin
arms
capacity.
I
But
if
we're
being
asked
to
take
an
action
on
an
item,
getting
real
clarity
on
what
the
action
is,
that
is
requested,
and
then
finally
I'll
just
say
that
I
think
an
additional
meeting
might
be
warranted
because
talking
about
the
number
of
items
that
we've
already
said,
we'd
like
to
bring
back
and
trying
to
do
that
in
the
same
time
frame
we're
looking
at
reallocating
money
that
that
exercise
in
itself
is
exhausting
the
application
exercise.
I
So
I
don't
know
that
we
could
handle
all
of
those,
and
that
would
be
also
for
the
benefit
of
the
public.
I
mean
their
ability
to
dedicate
that
much
time
to
follow.
What's
happening
with
this
group
would
also
be
somewhat
limited.
So
I
think
an
additional
meeting
might
be
beneficial
to
talk
about
these
things.
These
items
as
well.
A
I'm
tending
to
get
there
with
you.
I
appreciate
that
input,
matthew
and-
and
even
thinking
on
this
end,
that
when
creating
an
agenda,
I
can
do
better
to
isolate
items
like
this
needs
action.
This
is
info
only
etc.
So
let
me
just
do
a
little
kind
of
some
of
you
have
your
videos
on
some
of
you.
A
Don't
or
maybe
that's
just
my
connection,
but
if
you
can
just
kind
of
throw
up
your
hand
about,
do
you
think
we
should
have
an
extra
meeting
in
august
and
you
could
visually
throw
your
hand
or
digitally
throw
your
hand.
Everybody
be
okay,
yeah.
So
I'm
sensing
that
okay,
I'm
gonna,
it's
not
as
simple
as
just
saying
we'll
do
that,
because
it's
virtual
and
there
are
schedules
and
timing-
and
you
know
all
this
publication
and
production
behind
the
scenes.
A
So
I
will,
I
will
be
in
touch
about
that
and
throw
out
potential
dates
and
a
better
draft
agenda
on
all
these
things
that
we're
discussing
today.
Okay,
all
right,
I
think
that
moves
us
on.
I
don't
see
any
other
hands
up
we're
gonna
move
on
to
the
next
item,
which
is
item
four
c.
Two
loan
versus
grant
and
let's
see.
A
L
Sure
so
paul
here
again
with
city
of
asheville,
so
I
think
all
of
you
have
heard
this
and
it
was
in
january.
I
think
that
we
were
informed
that
mars,
hill
and
marshall
were
not
added
properly
to
the
consortium
by
2013
before
our
time,
so
we've
been
working
on
trying
to
figure
out
exactly
how
to
add
them.
This
did
hit
priority
on
our
desk
and
christina
harris
has
been
helping
with
this.
L
We've
been
working
with
our
legal
team
as
well,
and
the
idea
is
just
to
correct
that
we're
in
process
right
now,
christina.
N
Yeah,
thank
you
paul,
so
we
have
received
the
the
amended
agreement
from
town
of
marshall
and
I'm
working
with
karen
kina
for
mars
hill
as
we
speak
to
receive
that.
We
do,
however,
have
a
bit
of
a
delay
in
our
schedule,
because
here
the
city
we
are
doing
end-of-year
closeouts
in
munis,
which
is
kind
of
the
the
host
that
we
can
put
this
amendment
into.
So
we
won't
be
able
to
initiate
the
completion
of
these
officially
until
after
the
new
year.
So
but
we
are,
we
are
definitely
working
on
it.
N
We
are
definitely
a
lot
closer
than
we
were
before
and
you
know
we'll
just
keep
you
all
posted
on
what
we're
doing
with
that.
H
So
what
I
can
add
to
that
christina
is
the
town
of
mars
hill.
Who
is
the
board
that
will
approve
the
appointment
three
that
will
be
signing
it?
I
spoke
with
mars
hill
last
week's
agenda
was
specifically
about
approving
the,
but
in
the
new
year
budget.
So
we
were
not
able
to
get
on
to
that
agenda.
They
will
not
be
having
a
july
meeting
because
they
had
two
meetings
in
the
month
of
june.
L
And
then
sage
just
quickly,
I
think
it's
next
spring,
like
usually
spring
of
2022,
that
we
have
to
renew
our
membership
with
the
consortium.
I
think
it's
every
three
years
we're
under
auto
renew,
but
I
think
we
will
be
looking
at
the
overall
agreements
just
to
make
it
simpler.
A
L
Correct
so
we
got
a
notification
from
hud,
I'm
sure,
with
all
the
arpa
funds
coming
down,
that
4.7
million
dollars
will
be
coming
down
in
home
funding,
so
I've
attached
the
award
letter
as
well
as
how
the
national
community
development
association
who've
really
upped
their
game
by
the
way
as
an
organization
kind
of
shared
out
money
in
general,
that's
coming
down
to
community
development
and
housing,
and
all
of
that
so
two
really
good
reads
there.
In
sharing
information
regarding
the
4.7
million
dollars,
we
had
a
meeting
with
our
hud
rep.
L
I
think
it
was
in
the
second
or
third
week
in
may
about
this
funding
to
recognize
it
in
our
annual
action
plan.
L
So
when
we're
aware
of
funding
coming
our
way,
we're
supposed
to
recognize
it,
even
if
we
don't
know
what's
going
to
happen
with
it
in
our
annual
action
plan,
but
in
reaching
out
to
teslin,
she
advised
us
not
to
recognize
that
funding,
even
as
a
notation
that
we,
this
money
has
come
our
way
because
there's
no
guidance
around
this
funding
as
of
yet
so
she
let
us
know
that
the
funding
guidance
should
be
happening
sometime
in
august
or
september,
where
we
actually
figure
out
what
we
can
do
with
this
money.
L
What
that
looks
like,
etc.
What
I
do
know
at
this
time
is
that
if
you
read
that
letter,
it's
going
to
be
for
the
benefit
of
homeless,
I
have
recently
heard,
but
not
confirmed
this
myself,
that
it'll
be
all
grant
funding
and
we
will
have
2030
until
2030
to
spend
this
I'm
assuming.
L
But
I
don't
want
to
assume
that
it's
going
to
come
to
the
consortium,
I'm
assuming
that's
a
yes,
I
assume
once
we
get
the
guidance
in
august
or
september
that
we're
going
to
have
to
come
up,
possibly
with
a
whole
process
around
new
applications
and
figure.
All
of
that
out,
there
was
a
hud
meeting
that
I
just
I
think
I
signed
up
for
for
july
1st.
It's
kind
of
the
first
meeting
on
this
funding.
I
don't
know
if
they're
going
to
have
all
the
guidance
sewed
up
that
day.
L
I
don't
anticipate
that,
but
we're
just
following
this
and
so
more
to
come.
We
are
waiting
for
the
guidance
of
exactly
how
this
money
can
be
spent,
and
we
assume
this
will
be
a
good,
probably
six
month,
process
to
figure
out
how
to
get
applications
in
maybe
by
the
end
of
the
year.
I
don't
know
yet,
as
we
find
out
we'll
do
our
best
for
updates.
A
Thanks
paul-
and
this
is
a
significant
amount
of
money-
and
I
appreciate
you
sharing
the
letter.
I
know
I
received
an
email
about
the
timeliness,
so
I
will
own
that
as
chair,
it
actually
did
not
occur
to
me
to
inform
everyone
of
this
letter
all
right,
because
I
knew
behind
the
scenes.
We
were
still
kind
of
forming
what
this
could
look
like
what
the
allocation
rules
would
be.
A
So
I
apologize
for
that
and
I
think
it's
one
of
the
things
that
communication
in
general
that
we
can
talk
about
and
roles
and
responsibilities
in
this
august
special
meeting.
I
agree
paul
that
it
almost
feels
like
a
separate
process,
because
it's
a
one-off
experience
so
defining
what
that
looks
like
and
I'm
happy
to
see
the
uses
of
this
funding.
It's
a
pretty
extensive
list
and
very
applicable
to
the
current
need,
at
least
in
the
community,
that
I'm
in
any
questions
or
comments
about
this
from
anyone
or
excitement
go
ahead.
Andrew.
K
I
have
a
brief
question
and
it
kind
of
informs
one
of
the
things
that
buncombe
county
has
been
saying,
but
is
this
money
available
potentially
immediately?
You
know,
I
know
rachel
nygard
likes
to
say
it's
already
hit
our
account,
but
you
know
if
we
were
to
have
a
process
than
an
award
funds.
You
know.
I
know
that
there's
there
was
the
system
times
arc
of
this
week
about
domestic
violence,
service
providers
and
the
lack
of
funding
they've
experienced.
K
I
think
it
was
vawa
or
volca,
but
I
think
there
may
be
some
of
these
uses
like
the
support
of
services,
that
that
maybe
have
a
little
more
of
an
urgency
behind
them.
I'm
curious,
maybe
not
always
maybe
we
talk
about
when
exactly
these
funds
will
be
available
and
then
you
know
a
question.
That's
come
up
with
our
arka
funds
and
I
I
don't
know
if
we
have
the
guidance
yet
as
well,
but
it
would
be
interesting.
Do
these
funds
carry
the
full
kind
of
raft
of
federal
compliance
requirements?
K
Would
you
have
to
do
an
environmental
review?
Would
you
have
to
do
you
know
that
could
affect
the
use
as
well?
But
that's
that's
going
to
be
a
curious
matter,
because
you
know,
for
example,
if
they
require
environmental
review,
a
a
project
that
was
a
you
know,
help
made
a
new
shelter
that
could
extend
that
years
or
months
down
the
line
and
they
may
not
be
interested
but
yeah.
Otherwise,
it's
very
exciting
and
those
are
just
a
few
items.
I
think
you
know
we'll
wait
for
the
hug
guiding
song.
L
And
all
very
similar
questions
so
many
unknowns,
which
is
why
we
were
hesitant
to
just
shoot
it
right
out
of
the
gate
back
in
april,
because
we
don't
know-
I
mean
I
know
4.7,
we
it
hasn't
hit,
our
accounts,
benefit
homeless,
grant,
2030
and
then
the
2030
is
interesting
because
they
really
wanted
to
be
targeted
to
the
immediate
needs.
Yet
they
gave
us
till
2030.
So
that's
confusing
on
how
that
works.
L
So
hey,
if
you
all
hear
anything
as
well,
but
I
believe
july
1st
is
the
first
meeting
I've
seen
from
hud
hud
exchange
to
talk
about
this
funding,
so
hopefully
we'll
find
out
more.
A
And
I
think
you
know
andrew
and
I
had
a
chance
to
talk
before
the
meeting
and
catch
up,
but
one
of
the
things
we
talked
about
was
you
know,
for
transparency,
reasons
and
community
and
partnership
reasons.
Can
we
kind
of
create
a
bit
of
a
timeline
and
knowing
it
might
change?
But
you
know
when
we
might
receive
the
money
when
we're
trying
to
define
how
we'll
allocate
it
when
this
board's
going
to
meet
about
it
and
discuss
when
it
might
be
available
to
the
community
and
partners
and
so
on.
A
Just
so,
we
have
a
clear
picture.
I
know
it
would
help
me,
but
I
think
it
would
also
help
the
consortium
and
partners
out
in
the
community,
and
I
think
that's.
A
Right
right,
but
I
mean
when
we
as
we
learn
to
try
and
dial
in
on
that
and
then
report
back
to
the
consortium.
So
we
have
some
just
more
information,
I'm
realizing
we
need
you
know.
If
we're
only
going
to
meet
quarterly,
then
I
can
be
updating
you
monthly,
perhaps
as
things
that
are
happening
in
between
sessions
and
meetings.
I
I
will
just
add
that
I
do
think-
and
we've
discussed
this
about
the
various
funding
sources
that
are
becoming
available.
What
this
presents
is
an
opportunity,
perhaps
to
be
an
influx
of
funding
for
some
of
those
programs
that
we
find
it
difficult
to
balance
within
our
regular
allocations
of
home
awards.
I
It's
what
it
sounds
like
it
will
likely
do
and
that's
what
we've
seen
with
a
lot
of
the
other
funding
is
that
it
can
help
with
a
lot
of
program
support.
So
I'm
I'm
generally
positive
and
hopeful
about
what
we
see
as
final
guidance.
Hopefully
like
some
of
other
programs,
we're
not
relying
on
faq
sheets
to
guide
us
initially,
but
we'll
see.
A
Yeah,
it's
interesting
to
have
the
money.
Without
the
plan
we
usually
have
the
plan
without
the
money,
so
we're
all
learning
and
we're
stuck
in
this
timeline,
but
we're
going
to
get
there
together.
Rob-
and
I
saw
your
point
in
the
chat-
I'm
glad
you're
excited
I'm
very
excited.
I
was
thrilled
to
learn
this
information
and
gives
me
great
hope
that
our
federal
government
is
kind
of
paying
more
attention
to
these
issues,
whether
it
was
in
response
to
a
pandemic
or
an
ongoing
need
that
the
pandemic
just
exacerbated.
A
A
A
Thousands
of
people
watching
this
y'all
just
kidding
all
right
so
last
item
number
seven
is
our
quarterly
meeting
schedule.
These
are
the
dates,
we're
going
to
ask
you
to
hold
on
your
calendar
and
then
I'm
going
to
be
in
touch
via
email,
about
a
special
potential
special
meeting
in
august
to
go
over
some
of
the
items
we
discussed
today.
L
So
sage,
to
that
point-
and
we
do
appreciate
everyone
taking
a
look
at
those
dates
and
putting
them
on
their
calendar,
do
you
want
us
to
change
that
to
an
all-day
meeting
in
september
for
this
group,
so
that
we
can
tackle
the
funding
and
also
some
like
a
couple
other
items,
and
we
can
change
that
to
all
day.
I
think
community
development
can
clear
their
schedules
or
I
can.
A
A
Sound
good,
okay
and
paul
I'll,
be
in
touch
with
you
about
that.
Otherwise,
folks
keep
these
dates
on
your
calendars
and
depending
on
the
other
comments
or
questions,
we
can
adjourn
anyone
else.
Okay,.
A
A
L
I
just
wanted
to
say
just
remind
everybody
at
the
bottom.
There
is
a
way
to
keep
informed,
particularly
the
community
development
update,
to
sign
up
for
those.
We
don't
kill
your
inbox,
but
it's
community
development's
way
of
sharing
information,
some
interesting
stuff
partner,
stuff
opportunities
for
funding,
a
lot
of
the
stuff
like
regarding
the
second
round
of
funding
we
communicate
through
there.
So
it's
easy
to
sign
up
for
our
community
development
updates.
With
that
link.
A
It's
a
very
thorough
update.
I
appreciate
reading
it
and
the
ongoing
nature
of
its
updates.
It
also
details,
sometimes
things
like
when
we
have
doled
out
rental
assistance
in
the
past.
How
far
into
that
funding
are
we?
How
much
is
left
how's
it
going?
So
there's
a
lot
of
good
information
in
there
and
if
your
community
is
not
doing
something
similar,
I
suggest
you
do
all
right.
I
think
that's
it
everyone
and
we're
five
minutes
early.
I
appreciate
everyone's
time
today
and
I
will
be
in
touch
about
august
all
right.
Thank
you.