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C
C
This
is
a
nine
person
committee
whose
primary
function
is
to
give
design
review
for
projects
located
in
one
of
the
city's
three
designated
design
review
areas
downtown
the
riverfront
and
the
new
hotel
overlay
zoning
district.
This
is
a
mandatory
review,
voluntary
compliance
process
with
one
exception
and
that's
for
hotels
seeking
to
skip
council
review
hotels.
Taking
advantage
of
this
incentive
must
receive
a
positive
recommendation
from
this
committee.
C
All
committee
members
and
staff
are
participating
virtually.
We
appreciate
your
patience
as
we
work
through
committee
meetings.
A
bit
differently.
We
are
streaming
live
on
our
virtual
engagement
hub,
which
is
accessible
through
the
virtual
engagement
hub
link
on
the
front
page
of
the
city
website,
and
also
linked
on
the
committee
page.
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C
When
we
get
to
the
public
comment
section,
you
may
dial
this
same
number
and
press
star
3.
for
those
of
you
out
there
with
us
today
welcome.
I
will
now
go
through
and
introduce
the
committee
members
who
are
participating
virtually
please
make
sure
to
mute
your
microphone.
If
you
are
not
speaking
and
when
you
have
a
question
or
would
like
to
speak
unmute
your
microphone,
please
remember
to
mute
your
microphone
again
after
you
are
done.
Speaking
committee
members,
as
I
call
your
name,
please
say
a
quick
hello.
C
We
have
some
new
members
today
and
there's
going
to
be
introductions
after
the
roll
call,
but
for
now
catherine
and
kaya,
hello,
hello,
christina
booer,
hi,
hi,
jeremy,
goldstein,
hello,
kimberly
hunter,
she
emailed
and
said
she
was
going
to
be
late.
So
I
don't
think
she's
joined
us
yet
stephen
lee
johnson.
A
C
And
I
am
robin
reigns:
the
temporary
vice
chair
and
now
we're
going
to
have
new
member
introductions-
and
I
guess
just
say
something
about
yourself-
say:
quick,
hello,
kate
and
kaia.
E
F
You
got
it
hi.
I
am
a
designer
at
laura
hudson
architecture
in
nashville
and
I
also
grew
up
in
asheville
and
was
gone
for
a
little
while
in
charlotte,
but
I'm
happy
to
be
back
and
excited
to
join
the
team.
G
C
To
help
our
audience
follow
along
I'm
going
quick.
First,
I'm
going
to
go
through
the
administrative
and
unfinished
business
on
the
agenda
so
to
help
our
audience
follow
along
I'll
state
each
section
of
the
agenda
aloud
and
do
a
vocal
roll
call
for
each
vote.
If
there's
a
vote
taken.
Additionally,
I
ask
that
committee
members
raise
their
hands
to
speak
and
I
will
call
upon
them.
We
will
begin
with
administrative
items
in
any
unfinished
business
and
first
on
the
administrative
items,
are
the
approval
of
the
minutes
from
the
february
17
2022
meeting.
D
C
Okay,
that
is
approved
then,
and
we
have
to
do
a
roll
call
vote
so
catherine
and
kya.
I
know
you
weren't
here,
but
you
still
have
to
vote.
I.
D
G
C
G
C
And
I
am
an
eye,
and
the
next
item
on
our
minutes
is
the
election
of
chair
and
vice
chair.
I
don't
really
know
how
we
do
this
well.
B
Just,
however,
I
think
maybe
there
should
be
a
nomination
and
then
perhaps
a
second
or
just.
If
folks
are
interested,
we
have
multiple
candidates
for
a
chair,
then
you
know
each
person
will
vote
and
choose
the
person
that
they're
voting
for
and
there's
only
one
person.
Maybe
it's
just
an
up
or
down
vote.
B
D
Been
angry
yeah.
Thank
you
robin
since
we
don't
have
a
nominated
committee,
since
this
is
a
committee
of
a
as
a
basically
a
smaller
committee.
I
would
just
like
to
make
a
nomination
if
I
can
start
with
that.
I'd
like
to
nominate
our
current
highly
qualified
vice
chair,
who
has
done
a
great
job
in
leading
our
meetings
over
the
last
few
months,
and
I
think
it
would
be
great
to
put
her
in
the
full-time
chair
position
for
the
next
period.
C
All
right:
well,
thanks
I'll.
E
C
Jeremy
hi
kimberly
steven
lee.
A
I
C
G
C
F
C
D
G
C
And
I
am
an
I
okay:
now
we
will
move
to
a
new
business.
The
informal
design
review.
The
first
item
on
our
informal
design
review
was
72
broadway
street
to
create
some
of
the.
C
I
was
gonna
say
that
that
was
being
oh,
we
start
with
the
formal.
I
skipped
it.
Sorry,
let's
go
back
to
the
formal
that
is
the
swannanoa
greenway
segment.
One.
B
Great,
thank
you
good
afternoon.
My
name
is:
will
tomquist
I'm
a
planner
with
plenty
of
urban
design?
I
apologize.
My
camera
is
having
technical
difficulties,
but
I
I
am
here
and
I
am
wearing
green.
If
you
all
have
problems
hearing
me
or
seeing
my
screen,
let
me
know,
but
I
think
otherwise,
things
are
working
on
my
end.
B
B
You
all
might
have
watched
this
already,
but
folks
viewing
eating
remotely
or
viewing
afterwards
might
find
benefit
to
watching
this.
It's
only
five
minutes,
so
I'm
gonna
play
it
and
the
audio
should
come
through
on
your
end
as
well.
So
if
it
doesn't,
then
let
me
know
find
another
way
of
doing
it,
but.
B
No,
I
don't,
I
thought,
maybe
it
would
work
as
I
shared
it.
Can
you
try
it.
K
Will
yeah
yes,
lucy,
try
to
open
it
up
through
the
youtube
channel
and
see
if
that
works.
K
B
Yeah,
maybe
it
would
be-
I
guess
what
I
might
do
he's
gonna
write
the
link
into
the
chat.
L
L
L
The
swannanoa
greenway
is
the
westernmost
section
that
would
complete
the
trail
traveling
from
near
azalea
park
and
connecting
to
the
wilma
dickman,
greenway
and
asheville's
river
arts
district.
The
fossil
flora
trail
is
part
of
the
north
carolina
state
trail
system
and
as
a
priority
for
many
partners
and
nc
state
parks.
L
L
L
The
greenway
will
connect
to
several
commercial
hubs
and
access
safer,
pedestrian,
bicycle
mobility
and
an
opportunity
to
connect
to
public
transit.
The
feasibility
study
identified
segment
one
as
a
priority.
This
segment
is
from
glendale
avenue
to
the
existing
greenway
at
walmart,
as
well
as
a
newly,
fully
accessible
greenway
up
to
bleachery
boulevard,
which
connects
to
swananoa
river
road,
the
area
shown
in
light
green
or
segment.
One
is
one
mile.
L
L
Now
that
you've
seen
the
big
picture,
let's
look
at
the
details.
This
wanna
know
greenway
segment
when
designed
the
12
foot
wide
greenway
is
shown
here
as
a
white
line.
Let's
look
at
the
details
starting
near
the
intersection
from
glendale
avenue
and
thompson
street.
The
greenway
will
travel
along
the
river.
Quick
access
will
be
provided
via
a
trailhead.
A
L
Some
parking
and
storm
water
treatment
that
ensures
water
runoff
from
the
greenway
is
treated
before
entering
the
river.
A
trail,
kiosk
and
plantings
will
also
be
part
of
the
arrival
experience
near
brewery
curses
cheme,
a
boardwalk
and
retaining
wall
will
be
constructed,
protect
several
mature
trees
that
stabilize
the
riparian
floodplain.
L
L
When
the
greenway
nears
wood
avenue
an
ada
accessible
connection
will
travel
up
to
wood
avenue
with
important
connections
to
commercial
and
a
transit
stop
just
south
of
the
greenway.
The
greenway
will
continue
on
traveling,
underneath
both
wood
avenue
and
interstate
240,
where
it
will
connect
into
the
existing
riverbend
greenway
near
walmart.
L
The
city
is
pursuing
additional
funding
for
a
connection
up
to
and
through
the
walmart
parking
lot
that
will
connect
freeway
users
to
bleachery
boulevards
bridge
and
the
swannanoa
river
road
intersection.
This
addition
will
be
a
separated
and
buffered
greenway.
Here's
a
detailed
redesign
of
the
bleachery
boulevard
bridge
to
accommodate
the
greenway.
L
L
You
might
be
asking:
when
is
the
green
wing
going
to
be
built?
The
great
news
is
the
voters
passed
bond
funding
in
2016,
so
there
is
money
to
build
the
greenway.
The
project
timeline
for
segment.
One
of
the
swannanoa
greenway
has
a
milestone
this
spring
of
2022
with
all
designs
or
construction
documents
complete
in
summer
of
2022.
The
city
will
bid
the
project
out
and
in
fall.
2022-2023
construction
will
occur
for
further
updates
about
this
project
and
the
greater
swannanoa
greenway
corridor
visit
the
project
page
on
the
city's
website
shown
here.
B
All
right,
thank
you,
sasha
for
playing
that
that's
a
good
overview
for
folks.
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
share
some
plans
of
greenway.
B
It
starts
at
glendale
avenue.
This
is
the
new
parking
area
and
trailhead
with
kiosk.
B
Travels
along
the
river:
this
is
the
wood
avenue
connection
and
spurf
located
here
travels
under
wood
avenue,
the
i240
bridges,
and
then
it
meets
with
the
connecting
the
existing
greenway
shows.
The
white
outline
here
just
north
of
walmart's
parking
lot
and
the
new
segment
is
built
on
a
parallel
to
the
existing
one,
but
it
goes
up
to
blue
tree
boulevard,
sorry
and
connects
across
the
bridge.
B
Zoom
in
on
that
plan
some
more
detail.
You
can
see.
The
stack
report
noted
10
spaces,
but
I
believe
these
are
two
spaces
as
well,
so
there's
actually
12
spaces,
gravel
parking
lot
with
a
concrete
sidewalk
that
connects
to
the
kiosk
and
then
to
the
green
one
itself.
B
Back
on
this
segment,
you
can
see
this
section
of
a
boardwalk
and
that's
kind
of
due
to
the
terrain
of
the
of
the
riverbank
there,
and
then
the
boardwalk
is
going
to
be
constructed
of
concrete
permatrac
treads
and
I'm
talking
about
materials
I'll
mention
too,
that
other
elements
of
the
greenway
design
include,
as
noted
in
the
staff
report,
the
erosion
control,
blankets,
bamboo
shield
barriers,
steel,
detectable
warning
plates
for
pedestrians,
retaining
walls
of
boulder
and
segmental
block.
B
Let's
see
on
the
next
segment
of
the
greenway,
I
believe
it's
relatively
unobstructed,
no
bridge
crossings
or
boardwalks.
Necessarily
you
can
see
there.
B
That
will
be
surrounded
by
chain
link
fence,
and
that
is
for
the
the
monitoring
wells,
which
is
north
just
at
the
north
end
of
thompson
of
simpson
street.
So
that's
shown
in
more
detail.
There.
B
This
is
an
overview
on
the
route
of
the
greenway,
some
of
the
details
about
the
elements
of
it
as
well,
then,
as
far
as
stats
review
of
the
guidelines
and
the
riverway
master
plan,
I'll
give
a
brief
summary
of
that.
So
this.
B
In
the
swannanoa
river
west
and
swannanoa
river
east
design
sectors
as
referenced
in
the
river
district
design
review
guidelines,
the
guidelines
are
a
little
more
focused
on
building
projects.
But
there
are
elements
of
you
know
new
projects
or
designs
that
are
relevant
to
this
greenway,
even
though
it
doesn't
have
greenway
guidelines
necessarily.
But
let's
talk
about
items
such
as
signage
sidewalks
parking
and
kiosks
and
overall
staff
found
that
the
proposed
greenway.
B
Discussed
in
detail
are
are
supported
by
those
by
those
river
district
design
guidelines
regarding
those
elements,
there's
also
the
wilma
dickman
riverway
master
plan,
which
is
adopted
in
2004,
and
that
provides
the
vision
for
a
new
riverway
along
the
french,
broad
and
swan
middle
rivers
and
the
riverway,
as
described
in
the
plan
as
a
continuous
road
and
trail
system,
combined
with
a
series
of
concentrated
nodes
of
development
that
will
dramatically
improve
the
quality
of
life
in
asheville
and
the
main
the
main
recommendation
out
of
that
plan
is
the
trail
recommendations
and
there
are
a
few
different
typologies
of
trail
described
in
the
plan
that
would
run
along
parallel
to
this
riverway
kind
of
roadway
system,
and
one
of
them
is
a
multi-use
major
multi-use
trail
and
that's
described
that
these
trails
are
usually
associated
with
developed
high
use
areas
where
a
lot
of
traffic
is
anticipated,
which
should
be
10
to
12
feet.
B
B
Managing
the
stormwater
off
the
greenway
is
another
important
component
of
this
project,
and
the
plan
also
talks
about
paving
and
site
materials
and
plant
materials,
so
those
are
all
supported
by
by
this
plant
as
well
as
far
as
other
bodies
reviewing
the
project,
the
the
asheville
area
river
front
redevelopment
commission
reviewed
the
project
and
provided
some
comments
and
discussion
back
in
on
february
10th,
and
there
are
a
number
of
things
discussed.
B
Overall,
one
was
regarding
the
segments
east
of
this
one
which
would
be
located
along
swan,
noaa
river
road
and
that's
going
to
be
a
few
years
out
from
now,
and
it
will
be
designed
in
conjunction
with
ncdot's
rebuilding
of
that
road,
since
it
is
an
ncdot
road
and
there
was
a
lot
of
discussion
about
you
know,
the
road
is
really
close
to
the
river
and
as
erosion
continues,
the
road
and
potentially
greenway
will
be
imperiled.
A
B
Overall
discussion
about
how
to
either
you
know,
reduce
the
water
volume
that
goes
into
the
tributaries
of
the
swannano
river,
to
help
with
erosion
and
also
improving
the
quality
of
that
storm
walker
that
eventually
enters
the
river
and
that's
you
know,
obviously
more
of
a
system-wide
approach
than
just
the
screenwrite
would
address,
but
but
obviously
has
big
implications
long-term
for
the
health
and
quality
of
the
river
and
then
there's
there
was
a
discussion
about.
B
You
know
how
property
owners
and
nearby
residents
have
responded
to
this
proposed
greenway
and
lucy
mentioned
that
there
was
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
support
for
the
project
as
they
went
out
and
did
their
public
engagement
over
the
last
few
years
and
then
finally,.
B
Discussion
about
you
know
how,
if,
as
properties
redevelop
along
this,
you
know
further
sections
of
the
greenway
such
as
swan
and
over
road.
B
How
would
that
potentially
jeopardize
the
proposed
alignment
of
the
greenway,
and
you
know
that's
something
that
can
be
addressed
to
some
degree
with
you
know,
projects
that
have
conditional
zonings
attached
to
them
where
there
are
specific
conditions
for
their
approval
and
if
they're
in
that
section
of
sanono
river
road,
there
would
definitely
be
conditions
about
easements
for
the
greenway
or
even
some
projects
have
already
built
trail
segments
and
greenway
segments
into
their
projects.
B
So
overall
staff
supports
the
proposed
greenway
project
and
recommends
approval,
as
the
project
is
in
alignment
with
required
with
requirements
and
guidelines
and
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
You
also
have
lucy
crown,
who
is
the
project
champion
from
the
transportation
department
here
to
address
any
other
questions
too?
So
I'll
open
the
floor
to
the
drc
unless
lucy
wants
to
give
a
brief
overview
or
comment
on
anything,
I've
said
or
correct
me
isn't
even.
D
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
that
we
support
this
greenway
effort
and
the
designs
that
were
submitted.
C
I
was
going
to
say,
I
think
we
need
public
comment
before
we
do
this.
We
did
have
one
emailed
public
comment.
Some
concerns
about
pedestrian
access
at
wood
avenue
south
tunnel
road.
C
Wood
wood
avenue.
Yes,
the
the
comment
was
regarding
the
wood
avenue
connection,
so
the
com,
the
commenter
says
this
is
a
sub-park
connection.
Given
there
is
no
safe
pedestrian
or
bike
crossing
at
the
nearby
intersection
of
wood
avenue,
south
tunnel
road,
swannanoa
river
road.
Anyone
traveling
to
or
from
the
business
district
along
south
tunnel
road
cannot
safely
cross
over
the
wood.
C
E
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
make
one
comment
that
I
live
down
in
this
area,
and
this
area
is
the
is
more
commercial
and
suburban
and
and
just
could
really
use
and
really
benefit
from,
like
the
creative
materials
and
signage
that
we
see
in
other
areas
along
our
greenways
and
so
just
to
point
that
out.
When
we're
thinking
about
materials,
signage
plantings,
that's
a
real
opportunity
to
pull
what
we
all
love
about.
Asheville
and
extend
it
into
this
part
of
our
community
as
well.
C
C
Okay,
then
I'm
gonna
run
through
and
we
can
vote
kate
hi,
christina
hi
jeremy,
hi
steven
lee.
D
C
D
C
A
C
B
Great
so
at
this
time
yes,
stimuli.
D
I'm
going
to
need
to
recuse
myself
from
this
review,
but
I'm
going
to
be
here
to
watch.
B
Thank
you.
Are
there
any
other
members
of
the
committee
that
you
do,
jeremy.
B
We
are
welcome
to
listen
along
and
as
participants
listening.
That
is
fine,
and
this
is
an
informal
review.
You
know
we'll
we'll
invite
the
applicant
to
share
their
screen
and
present
materials
as
they
as
they
would
like
and
then
get
some
feedback
from
the
from
the
committee.
So
I
don't
know
who
always
going
to
take
the
lead
on
that.
H
Laura
hudson
is
our
architect
will
take
the
lead
on
that.
Okay,.
B
Do
you
want
to
share
your
screen
lore
and
present
the
plans?
Do
you
want
me
to.
N
N
F
F
Got
it
speaking.
N
Sounds
good
all
right
well
hold
on.
I'm
sorry!
I
was
not
quite
ready.
I
was
expecting
this
to
be
a
little.
Oh.
N
F
We
emailed
them
to
you
this
morning,
laura
they
should
be.
They
will.
N
J
N
Yes,
okay,
sorry
about
that,
I'm
now
opening
it
up
so
hi
everybody.
My
name
is
laura
hudson.
I
am
an
architect
here
in
town
and
I'm
working
with
jeremy
goldstein
on
a
new
project.
In
the
river
arts
district,
we
are
constructing
a
61
unit
apartment
building
with
hotel
component
over
a
parking
structure.
N
So
it's
mixed
use
and
it
is
at
the
end
of
artful
way
up
the
road
from
the
project
we
just
completed,
which
is
called
brad
view
so
hold
on.
I'm
almost
there
to
getting
this
guy
open
for
you.
N
I'd
also
like
to
say
that
we
have
the
rest
of
the
team
on
this
call,
which
includes
suzanne
godzi
with
sight
work
studios,
and
I
believe
we
have
someone
from
our
civil
engineering
brooks
engineering
is
here,
so
we
kind
of
wanted
to
presented
the
entire
project
as
a
site,
development
and
architectural
project
and
how
this
kind
of
has
all
evolved.
It's
typical
for
asheville,
it's
a
small,
complicated
site
with
a
lot
of
topography,
so
we're
going
to
walk
you
through
how
we've
created
our
form
and
so
to
share.
N
Okay,
so
this
is
a
rough
site
plan.
I
I
don't
have
the
map
up.
I
can
pull
up
google
maps.
If
you
want
to
see
it,
would
that
help
orient
you
a
little
bit
before
we
get
started.
N
Right,
okay,
so
here
we
are
we're
going
down
to
the
river
district
right
down
in
this
area
and
turn
on
the
topography.
So
right
here
this
is
the
clingman
coming
down
to
haywood.
This
is
roberts
right
here
and
depot
there's
riverside
in
the
river
we
just
completed.
You
can
see
its
skeleton
right
here,
a
project
called
rabview
and
it's
a
four-story
mixed-use
project
and,
as
you
come
up
this
little
road,
it
was
renamed
artful
way.
It
comes
across
a
bridge
right
here
it
was
the
thunder
road
bridge
from
the
bootleg
movies.
N
I
don't
know
what
year
40s
and
then
it
dead
ends.
N
Okay,
1958.,
it
dead
ends
at
this
little
knoll
and
it
at
one
point
at
this
road.
Interestingly
enough
did
cross
and
connect
over.
Here.
That's
why
it
was
all
called
park
avenue,
but
when
the
clingman
haywood
came
through
it,
it
kind
of
busted
up
that
connection,
so
it
kind
of
it
ends
said
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
bridge
and
you
might
have
remembered
there
was
a
burned
down
house
or
that
burned
down
several
years
ago
and
it's
kind
of
over
the
great
eagle.
N
So
the
house
has
been
demolished
and
so
we're
looking
at
a
piece
of
property.
That's
about
like
this,
and
so
I
guess
just
that
and
here's
kliman
avenue
extension
does
that
make
sense.
Everyone
know
where
we
are-
and
this
is
the
big
rad
lofts
project
that
has
been
in
the
works
for
a
decade.
N
Okay,
so
going
back
to
our
site.
This
little
bridge
is
a
little
bit
problematic
it.
It
has
not
it's
kind
of
been
worn
down
over
the
years
and
it
is
no
longer
capable
of
carrying
any
traffic
over
two
tons.
Or
is
it
two
times
roomy
or
is
it
well
whatever?
It's
a
low
limit,
ten
tons
and
ten
tons,
which
is
actually
very
low
for
a
bridge.
You
don't
want,
you
know
we
couldn't
be.
We
wouldn't
be
able
to
get
our
fire
access.
N
Large
trucks.
Construction
would
not
be
able
to
use
that
bridge,
even
though
artful
way
is
the
front.
This
is
the
frontage
and
it's
the
only
frontage
for
this
project
this
this
piece
of
artway
that
ends
right
here
we
had
to
get
creative
to
try
to,
and
also
there's
a
really
large
change
in
elevation
from
up
high
down
here,
there's
a
steep
hill
and
then
it
kind
of
levels
off
so.
M
H
And
the
reality
is
we
had
to
come
up
with
access
from
down
below
because
you
couldn't
build
anything
by
because
with
what
laura
said,
fire
access
won't
go
on
that
bridge
until
the
city
fixes
it
so
and.
N
As
you
can
imagine,
this
is
this:
until
now,
there
was
only
one
house
up
at
the
end
of
this
road,
so
this
bridge
was
not
high
on
any
lists
to
be
fixed.
So
we've
come
up
with
a
solution.
We
have
a
24
foot
easement
from
this.
This
is
a
different
property
owner
on
clingman
avenue
extension
and
originally
we
had
a
12
foot
easement
for
utilities,
but
now
we
have
a
small
driveway,
but
now
we
have
a
24
foot
easement,
which
means
that
we
can
have
ingress
and
egress
from
below.
N
So
we've
worked
it
out
with
the
fire
department.
They
can
get
their
ladder
truck
in
there's
enough
space
for
them
to
maneuver
and
have
access
to
perimeter
of
the
building
from
down
below.
So
that
means
that,
while
the
front
of
our
project
and
you'll
see
in
elevations
technically
is
it
as
is
an
arc
away?
N
All
the
vehicular
access
for
even
visitors
to
the
site
will
come
from
driveway
down
below,
as
you
can
see,
we're
in
a
here's,
our
property
line
and
it's
pinched
in
every
direction
and,
as
you
start
to
look
at
like
the
typology
of
residential
units
overlaid
onto
a
parking
structure
grid,
I
will
note
that
this
is
also
unique
in
that
we
had
to
build
force.
We
were
limited
to
four
stories,
but
they
had
to
start
up
high
at
clingman.
N
I'm
sorry
an
artful
way,
but
there
is
a
what
is
it
10
27
foot
difference
in
elevation
from
artful
way
down
below,
so
we're
building
a
two-story,
concrete
parking
structure
for
the
parking?
I
think
it's
42
parking
spaces
and
what
that
it
effectively.
It
provides
the
parking
for
the
site,
but
it
also
lifts
the
building
up
so
that
we
can
then
interface
here
at
artful
way
and
start
to
kind
of
meet
the
zoning
requirements
required
at
the
front
facade
here,
property
line,
it's
pinched.
N
We
are
trying
to
get
the
grid.
You
know
of
18
feet
for
parking
space,
24
drive
aisle
and
then
overlay
the
residential
unit
layouts
on
top-
and
it's
then
we're
down
here.
We
have
to
provide
a
certain
amount
of
access
for
the
fire
department,
so
when
all
and
as
well
as
dumpster
access
down
here
in
the
corner-
and
when
all
that's
said
and
done,
we're
really
left
with
one
form.
I
mean
it's
really
hard
to
build
much
besides
it.
N
You
know
it
starts
to
dictate
the
form
of
the
building
which,
as
you'll
see,
is
an
l
shape.
You
come
in
below
for
parking
and
then
you
wind
up
as
a
ramp
to
the
second
level,
all
right
so
moving
on
now
to
here's
a
little
bit
of
an
illustrated
kind
of
idea,
we're
just
showing
this.
This
property
does
not
belong
to
us.
We
don't
know
if
they're
going
to
turn
it
into
parking
or
just
keep
it
as
gravel.
N
It
was
just
shown
as
part,
and
we
might
even
remove
that
so
our
project
starts
comes
in
here
and
we
then
create
a
plaza
at
the
upper
level
at
artful
way.
I'm
going
to
let
suzanne
kind
of
take
over
on
some
of
the
site
issues
as
we
progress,
but
we,
as
you
know,
the
zoning
allows
you
to
go
straight
up
for
four
stories.
N
If
you
do
provide
plaza
frontage
and
it
also
creates
a
little
more
of
a
welcoming
area,
especially
because
this
won't
have
a
lot
of
vehicular
traffic,
we
think
this
could
be
something
really
really
nice
up
here.
We'll
start
with
some
3d
views
so,
like
I
said,
the
form
of
the
building,
it's
l-shaped
that
allows
us
to
have
the
parking
and
then
a
double
loaded
corridor
for
residential
units
and
then
we've
started.
We
bring.
N
You
can
see
these
stair
towers
that
come
up
so
the
building
is
it's
75
feet,
we're
70
feet,
we're
really
limited
to
four
stories
of
type
5a
construction
over
type,
1
podium,
and
so
these
stairs
then
allow
fire
access
one
exiting
to
the
public
way
down
below
and
one
exiting
up
at
artful
way.
So
we're
looking
at
the
project
as
we'll
see.
N
Let's
talk
about
design
a
little
bit,
there's
so
many
residential
projects
being
built
in
asheville
right
now,
and
very
often
that
typology
follows
a
more
suburban
type
of
massing
and
they're
very
long,
and
they
try
to
break
up
the
facade
vertically
with
kind
of
pushing
things
in
and
out.
I
think
sometimes
it's
almost
to
give
it
a
sense
that
it's
multiple
buildings
instead
of
one
large
building,
so
our
building
is
actually
not
that
large.
It's
it's
not
over
150
feet
long.
N
We
do
have
a
break
at
the
front
where
the
that's
going
to
be
the
entrance
to
the
project
and
there
will
be
retail
all
along
the
first
floor.
I
can
show
you
elevations
as
well,
so
this
is.
This
idea
is
that
it
becomes
very
kind
of
like
open
and
lively
along
the
arc
away
facade
and
then,
as
you,
we've
layered
the
four
layers,
and
rather
than
break
it
up
vertically
we're
looking
at
breaking
it
up
horizontally
by
using
a
metal
panel
which
we
think
is
a
appropriate
material
for
this
district.
N
N
N
The
state
stair
towers
were
cladding
with
a
really
high
density,
fiber
cement,
similar
to
it'll,
probably
be
american
fiber,
cement
or
swiss
pearl,
and
what
we're
proposing
is
different
textures
of
this
material,
but
all
in
the
same
color
and
there's
a
rough,
a
smooth
and
a
ribbed
you
can
see
over
here,
and
so
that
will
allow
us
to
kind
of
start
to
play
with
some
variation
and
add
texture
to
these
large
masses,
because
a
lot
of
times
these
are
the
exit
stairs
and
don't
have
windows,
while
at
the
facades
themselves
we're
just
keeping
the
metal
panel
and
the
the
gradient
we're
showing
large
windows
and
there's
a
lot.
N
We
can
do
with
fenestration
to
add
sort
of
interest
to
these
facades,
but
they're,
not
that
big
you're
looking
at
basically
four
units
along
this
front
facade
and
we're
using
pups
of
color.
Just
you
know,
we've
looked
at
all
kinds
of
ideas
of
going
crazy
with
color
and
we
keep
scaling
back
and
we
just
want
it
to
be
something
very
minimal,
just
a
little
bit
of
jewelry
kind
of
added
to
it
that
something
that
doesn't
it's
something
that'll
age.
N
Well,
hopefully,
as
you
can
see,
then
this
is
along
the
klingman
avenue
extension
side
when
you
come
in,
so
we're
screening
the
parking
deck
all
the
way
around.
We
are
using
natural
ventilation
and
we
are
showing
screens
and
we're
wanting
these
to
be
kind
of
industrial
kind
of
low-tech.
Nothing
too
slick
that
we'll
have
maybe
a
welded
wire
mesh
with.
Then
we
could
throw
in
we're
starting
to
pick
up.
N
You
saw
the
circle
in
the
front
facade
right
here
that
takes
you
into
this
kind
of
like
entry,
lounge
area
and
then
we're
starting
to
pick
up
that
language
a
little
bit
as
you
go
a
little
bit
on
the
interior
and
then
kind
of
around
the
the
screens
tying
that
in
let's
see
coming
around
the
building.
N
This
piece
pops
out
just
a
little
bit,
but
the
fenestration
pattern
changes
mostly
because
we're
too
close
to
the
property
line.
We
have
to
start
adding
rated
glazing,
but
it
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
kind
of
change
up
this
pattern
on
this
piece
of
facade
right
here
and
then,
as
you
can
see,
we're
sloping
the
roofs
of
the
stair
towers,
partly
just
we
just
didn't-
want
to
create
big
bathtubs
up
high.
So
that
way
we
can
pitch
water
down
to
the
roof
and
drain
off
the
the
larger
flat
roof.
N
I
think
we've
experimented
in
lots
of
different
ways.
Breaking
up.
I
mean
throughout
this
looking
at
color,
looking
at
plane,
pushing
planes
in
and
out,
and
we
just
don't
want
it
to
become
too
busy.
It's
it's
not
as
big
as
you
might
think,
and
we're
just
kind
of
sort
of
playing
with
the
forms
that
you
see
of
the
gradients
with
this,
the
the
slope
of
the
towers,
so
that's
kind
of
our
just
our
approach.
So
far
we
will
hopefully
have
some
green
screens
on
part
of
this.
N
You
can
see
this
is
the
ramp
that
takes
you
from
level
one
to
level
two
and
that
will
have
a
green
roof
element
right
there.
We
do
have
an
outdoor
kind
of
gathering
space.
This
isn't
quite
updated
to
what's
shown
today.
N
I
think
we've
got
newer,
renderings
the
outdoor
element,
just
kind
of
an
amenity
space,
but
other
than
that
there
won't
be
any
kind
of
high
intensity
use
for
the
public
other
than
just
the
folks
that
live
or
stay
in
the
project
and
then
parking
will
ingress
in
egress
from
down
below.
Let's
see
this
is
the
current
site.
Well,
here's
our
photo.
There's
the
rad
view
project,
here's
the
road
and
then
it's
the
house
has
been
demolished.
There's
a
handful
of
shacks
and
different
levels
of
disrepair
that
will
come
down.
N
There's
the
great
eagle
right
there
and
we'll
be
coming
in
and
out
of
the
project.
N
Let's
see,
here's
some
more
views,
there's
the
bridge-
and
you
know
I
know
folks-
don't
want
to
see
sometimes
development
in
this
area,
but
we
certainly
believe
this
is
an
improvement
to
what
exists
right.
Now,
it's
not
really
in
that
great
of
a
shape.
We
will
do
a
tree
study
and
include
that
and
suzanne
can
talk
more
about
it.
There's
the
house
that's
been
knocked
down.
N
O
Yeah,
the
landscape
plan
would
be
a
good
place
to
start.
Okay,
good
luck:
okay,
hi
everybody,
I'm
suzanne,
godsey,
with
site
work
studios,
it's
great
to
be
here
today.
I've
enjoyed
working
with
jeremy
on
this
project
and
laura
as
well
so
as
laura
was
defining
all
the
constraints
that
we
had.
One
of
the
things
that
popped
into
my
mind
was
like
well,
this
site
kind
of
just
made
itself.
You
know
you
you.
O
Your
access,
you've
got
sidewalks,
you
need
to
get
in.
You've
got
your
building
that
meets.
You
know
a
program
for
the
client,
and
so
what
you're
left
with
as
a
site
designer
is
like.
Okay,
let's
get
the
missing
pieces
into
place,
and
and
once
those
minor
pieces
are
in
place,
the
rest
of
it's
just
gravy,
it's
it's
all
fun.
So
laura
had
mentioned
to
me
that
her
interiors
theme
is
kind
of
80s.
Punk
rock
she's
got
the
pop
of
the
purple
color.
That,
of
course,
got
me
super
excited.
O
It
makes
me
think
of
color
in
the
landscape
and
playing
with
texture,
getting
a
little
funky
with
planters
and
benches,
and
that
kind
of
thing,
so
our
sight
furnishings
are
going
to
relate
to
that
theme.
So
what
we
have
on
artful
way
as
we've
got
a
required
sidewalk,
but
we've
also
got
a
plaza
that
gets
you
into
the
space.
It
gets
you
into
our
commercial
doors,
as
well
as
into
the
open
plaza
that
we've
got.
We've
got
a
terrace,
that
is
on
the
northern
side.
O
It's
shaped
a
little
bit
differently
than
what
laura
had
originally
shown,
we're
still
playing
with
that
shape,
but
I
kind
of
like
where
it's
going
right
now
replicating
that
circle
that
you
find
on
the
building
elevations.
So
I
think
we
might
move
forward
with
that.
It's
also
a
little
bit
larger.
It
gives
the
users
of
that
space,
some
more
room
and
some
more
room
for
some
sight,
furnishings
so
not
too
terribly
much
to
highlight
in
terms
of
the
site
plan.
O
We
are
required
to
landscape
the
parking
deck
per
code,
so
we
will
be
screening
ourselves
off
from
the
great
eagle
as
well
as
the
east.
I
think
that's
the
eastern
side
with,
I
think.
That's,
mr
fingers,
piece
of
property
between
us
and
clingman
avenue
extension.
We've
got
some
required
street
trees.
We've
got
two
that
are
in
the
landscape
and
two
that
are
in
tree
grates.
O
I
selected
these
square
grates
for
a
reason
in
a
curved
road,
it's
a
little
bit
challenging
to
do
the
longer
grate,
so
it
will
still
have
the
silver
cells
underneath
it
it's
just
easier
to
turn
a
curve
with
the
the
shorter
grate.
So
that's
why
those
five
by
fives
are
selected.
O
We
do
have
to
screen
a
little
bit
of
that
retaining
wall,
that's
between
the
dumpster
and
holding
up
the
slope
up
on
artful
way
other
than
that
it's
pretty
much
it
for
compliance
stuff.
So
again,
all
the
rest
of
this
is
just
fun
laura.
If
you
want
to
go
down
to
that.
First
plant
palette,
perfect.
O
Okay,
so,
like
I
was
saying,
let's,
let's
get
some
fun
color
in
here,
we've
got
some
of
this
florida
sunshine
anise,
which,
typically
on
a
normal
day,
is
not
my
favorite
plant,
but
I
do
like
it
in
this
application.
I
I
think
it's
gonna
look.
Fantastic.
O
We've
got
some
playing
with
texture,
we're
playing
with
different
colors.
We've
got
a
good
mix
of
evergreens
and
some
grasses,
as
well
as
some
flowering
plant
material
for
summer
spring
and
summer
interest,
and
then
we've
got
some
fall
interest,
as
well
with
the
ginkgos,
which
will
turn
that
beautiful,
yellow
and
the
autumn
fern
turns
a
really
nice
bronze
in
the
fall
and
in
the
winter
months,
and
then
the
next
one
laura.
Thank
you.
This
is
some
hints
of
some
product
imagery
that
we're
playing
around
with.
O
We
are
looking
at
doing
a
green
screen.
The
company's
name
is
green
screen
and
we
are
looking
at
putting
cross
vine
on
the
green
screen,
which
I
think
will
be
very
successful.
We've
got
green
theory
planters.
These
planters
are
great.
They
are
custom,
custom-made
planters,
we've
used
them
on
other
projects,
they
have
really
great
plant
palettes.
O
They
can
do
custom
colors,
so
we've
got
some
hints
of
some
color
palettes
that
we
might
pull
off
of
complementing
either
going
with
the
pink
or
complementing
the
pink
something
of
that
fashion
and
then
putting
in
some
really
cool
plants.
Inside
of
the
planters
for
interest,
and
let's
see
what
else?
Oh
the
other
thing,
we
know
that
as
you're
entering
the
site,
you're
going
to
see
the
building
off
to
your
right,
but
you're
also
going
to
kind
of
be
faced
with
the
dumpster
screen.
O
O
I
think
that's
really
cool
and
it
goes
with
the
building
really
well
and
or
we'll
do
some
type
of
veloured
screening,
something
that's
a
little
bit
unique
or
different,
but
just
give
you
something
great
to
look
at
visually
as
you're
coming
in
before
you
head
into
the
parking
deck
so
that
those
are
our
thoughts
and
and
design
concepts
to
date.
If
anybody
has
any
questions
or
wants
to
go
back
and
look
at
the
landscape
plan,
we
can
do
that
too.
G
Thank
you
yeah.
I
wanted
to
say
it.
I
I
really
like
this
design.
This
is.
I
think
this
is
very
a
very
nice
balance
of
you
know
contemporary
modern.
Look
that
I
think
fits
asheville
very
well.
I
have
a
one
question:
the
about
the
roof.
Can
you
speak
to
you
know
what
that
might
look
like.
You
know
mechanical
units,
if
you're
going
to
have
any
screening
anything
like
that.
N
Yeah,
so
this
will
be
a
flat
roof
project
and
there
will
be
a
lot
of
mechanical
units
up
on
the
roof.
The
parapets
should
do
a
pretty
good
job
of
screening.
Anything
you're
going
to
see
they'll
be
inset
from
the
edges
a
bit
toward
the
center,
and
this
will
be
one
of
the
highest
points
in
this
area.
I
don't
think
anyone's
going
to
be
really
looking
down,
so
it
is
our
intention
that
the
parapet
will
pretty
much
screen
all
of
the
mechanical
units.
G
I
was
also
going
to
suggest
that
it
looks
like
the
the
north
elevation.
You've
got
that
bit
of
of
roof
sticking
up
on
the
on
the
stair
tower
that'd
be
a
cool
place
for
a
little
pop
of
color,
because
you
can
see
that
as
you're
coming
down,
clingman
right.
N
Yeah,
you
know
we've
we've,
we
have
toyed
so
much.
I
mean
that's
just
something.
I
think
we
love
you
a
little
feedback
on.
You
know:
we've
looked
at
colored
panels,
we've
looked
at,
you
know
we
are
thinking.
We
could
these
little
fins
that
pop
out
around
the
windows
and
we're
trying
to
create
this
language
that
follows
through.
You
can
see
them
on
the
side
that
at
each
you
know,
so
the
windows
are
at
the
end
of
every
unit
and
they're
large
to
really
because
the
units
aren't
very
large
themselves.
N
So
we
bring
in
lots
and
lots
of
daylight
and
views
through
large
windows
and
then
at
the
the
sides
we
switch
to
something
a
little
smaller
and
wrap
them
with
these
little.
You
know
steel,
pink
fins.
If
you
will
little
pops
here,
we're
still
trying
to
figure
out.
What's
the
balance,
the
right
amount
of
color
and
so
sure
I
mean
we
can
add
some
more.
I
Ready,
so
I'm
not
going
to
talk
about
all
the
things
I
love,
if
that's
okay,
because
there's
too
many
talk
to
me
a
little
bit
about
why
you're
doing
a
gradient
and
you're
not
playing
with
it
more
like
blocks
like
I,
I
you're
doing
a
lot
of
subtle
things.
Let
me
let
me
back
up
so
on
your
stair
towers,.
K
I
Gestalt
of
the
thing
itself
and
then
you're,
really
playing
a
lot
with
the
window
patterns,
are
kind
of
making
one.
It's
got
this
great
l-shape
with
the
top
on
it,
and
then
it's
got
some.
You
know
fun
things
going
on
inside.
I
One
of
the
things
I
noticed
when
I
was
looking
at
your
elevations
is
that
there's
a
lot
of
subtle
differences
in
the
stories
in
the
in
the
in
the
window.
Fenestration
patterns
the
spacing
and
the
mullions
themselves,
but
they
almost
get
lost
in
the
gradient,
and
I'm
wondering
if,
instead
of
doing
a
horizontal
gradient,
have
you
looked
at.
I
I'm
sure
you
have
of
doing
like
more
of
a
block
of
color
like
if
you've
got
like
a
dark
gray
is,
is
one
big
piece
and
then
you've
got
the
lighter,
grays
or
other
big
piece
a
little
bit
more
similar
to
what
you
did
on
the
first
building.
I
Yes,
thank
you.
I
don't
know
if
you've
looked
at
that
or
thought
about
it,
and
I'm
really
nitpicking
here
laura
because
this
is.
This
is
a
lot
of
fun
to
look
at
well.
N
I
mean
I,
I
appreciate
that
so
yeah,
you
know
it's
funny.
We
have
as
we
break
up
this
facade.
We've
looked
at,
like
you
said,
using
the
blocks
of
color,
but
then
we're
wondering
does
it
get
too
busy
and
well,
I
feel
like
so
many
people
try
to
highlight
the
verticality
in
in
in
so
many
of
our
residential
projects.
It
no
one
ever
really
plays
with
the
layers.
You
know
the
horizontal
layers,
and
so
I
hope
this
doesn't
sound
cheesy,
but
it's
kind
of
that
blue
ridge
gradient.
N
You
know
that
you
kind
of
see
that's
kind
of
what
we
were
playing
with,
whether
it's
successful
or
not.
I
mean
I
guess
we
can
debate
that,
but
that
was
the
the
I
guess
the
the
take
on
on
this.
We
were
afraid
I
don't
know
if
we
block
color
too
much.
Will
it
just
start?
You
know
with
so
many
windows.
N
If
anything
it,
you
know
you
can
see
we
flipped
just
as
the
subtle
variant
right
here.
You
know,
there's
the
zigzag
of
the
little
window
moves,
but
we've
left.
N
I
Can
you
go
to
the
three
point
the.
I
So
so,
when
I'm
looking
at
this
you've
done
such
a
really
nice
job
of
establishing
a
hierarchy
of
masses,
so
I've
got
the
stair
tower.
I've
got
this
really
nice
trends.
You
know
transparent
on
the
bottom
piece
you're
doing
this,
you
know
l-shape
a
negative
space
all
over
the
building
and
you've
got
that
block
like
in
the
in
the
main
one
right.
There
you've
got
that
big
block
coming
at
me
and
then
you've
got
a
negative
space
in
between
and
then
another.
I
Yeah
and
when
when
when
we
were
doing
our
internal
crit
of
this,
since
we
received
it
ahead
of
time
and
looking
at
it,
we
just
kept
thinking
man
she's
doing
some
really
fun
things
with
the
the
fenestration,
but
they
almost
get
lost
in
the
gradient,
because
the
gradient
is
such
a
strong
design
piece
so
that
that's
what
I'm
just
I'm
just
asking
if
you've
looked
at
it,
I'm
not
saying
it's.
I
If
you've
looked
at
it-
and
this
is
the
you
think
this
is
a
more
successful
read,
I
don't
necessarily
disagree,
then
I
would
just
say:
okay,
are
you
expressing
it
as
elegantly
as
you
are
like
the
transition
between
between
the
the
floors?
Are
you
expressing
it
and
as
elegantly
as
you
are,
I
just
feel
like
the
stair
towers
are
so
much
more
they're.
They
feel
farther
along.
F
I
The
detailing
between
the
the
the
floor
elevations
right
now,
and
I
don't
know
if,
if
I'm
just
really
nitpicking
also,
we
were
just
curious
why
certain
windows
got
the
little
the
little
outlines
in
that
main
image.
You
can
see
yeah
those.
N
We
were
they're
just
because
they're
so
small
everything
else,
they're
they're,
just
these
little
outliers
and
it
just
it-
gives
an
opportunity
to
to
kind
of
highlight
them
with
and
to
bring
a
little
color.
In
I
mean
I
hear
what
you're
saying
I
mean
yeah
they're,
not
I.
N
N
That
was
the
idea
these
little
these
little
fins,
they
don't
read,
but
that's
how
they,
I
think,
if
you
go
to.
E
N
It
depends
sometimes
they're
in
bathrooms.
You
know
and
we're
adding
a
little
bit.
You
know
the
fan
is
angled
just
creates
a
little
bit
of
a
kind
of
privacy,
kind
of
okay.
I
Right
there,
just
as
an.
N
I
Yeah
from
that,
I
think,
it'll
be
good
and
I'm
putting
on
the
slightly
more
of
a
regulatory
hat,
it'll
be
good
to
storyboard.
This
thing
what
it
looks
like
you
know
the
elevation
of
what
it
looks
like
next
to
the
great
eagle.
What.
I
N
So,
but
going
back
to
the
metal
panel,
another
thing
we've
looked
at
at
rad
view:
we've
changed,
we
kept
the
color
the
same,
but
we
changed
the
the
ribbing
pattern,
just
between
layers
to
create
a
little
just,
a
slight
subtle
textural.
This
one
we
were
looking
at
using
color,
but
keeping
the
pattern.
The
same
we've
also
been
looking
at
like
if
you
look
at
like
lorca,
no
hurlihi
in
la
or
if
you
look
at
marlin,
blackwell
people
that
use
a
lot
of.
A
N
I
I
Got
the
really
subtle
variations,
and
I
really
would
keep
that
as
your
special
piece.
Okay,
when
you're
doing
your
elegant
subtle
variations,
and
then
I
just
still
think
that
there's
some
there's
something
going
on
like
I
need
more
of
a.
I
need
to
see
more
of
a
line
or
less
of
a
line
between
the
gradients.
I
don't
know
how
to
describe
what
I'm
I'm
seeing
it's
just.
C
I
think,
maybe,
if
the
metal
panel
didn't
break
in
the
same
place
every
time
I
don't
mean
all
the
way
around
the
building,
but
I
mean
like,
like
the
the
the
horizontal
divisions,
are
the
same
height
and
it
makes
sense,
but
maybe
it
would
seem
more
gradient
if
the
bottom
one
was
six
feet
tall
and
the
next
one
was
eight
or
something
I
mean.
That's
just.
I
That's
a
really
good
yeah,
okay,
so
so
one
of
the
things
I
think
I'm
reacting
to
is
the
the
you
know.
A
lot
of
architecture
is
mediated
through
how
we
draw
now
and
this.
This
feels
like
a
revit
model
that
got
colored.
F
I
And
I'm
really,
you
know
you
see
a
lot
of
those
down
around
town.
They
just
look
like
that.
Somebody
just
hit
3d
print
on
a
shaded
model
and
seeing
the
floor
lines
so
clearly
yeah.
I
think
you
might
be
right,
like
the
the
bottom
one
you
know
comes
up
to
just
one
height.
I
don't
know
you
could
play
with
that
like
bring
it
up
to
the
underside
of
the
mullion
or
something
like
that.
I
J
I
N
See
what
you're
saying
I
mean-
I
mean
honestly
this
one
on
the
right's
kind
of
divorced
from
anything
else.
That's
happening,
I
mean
it.
Could
it
could
be
its
own
volume,
the
rest
of
it
does
kind
of
con.
They.
N
It
does
I
mean
we
could
definitely
look
at
that.
I
I
mean
I
do
also
think
about
constructability
and
how
we're
already
using
you
know.
I
mean
I
know,
I'm
already
going
to
be
cursed
for
the
the
stair
towers.
Just
the
you
know,
the
patterns
we're
creating
there,
and
so
I'm
trying
to
you
know
if
I
were
to
play
with
kind
of
the
so
the
gradients
weren't
so
regular,
and
we
we
moved
them
around
a
little
bit,
which
I
kind
of
like
that
idea.
G
I
I
think
if
I
heard
robin
correctly
she's
saying
you
know
the
the
one
on
the
bottom:
maybe
it
just
comes
up
midway
into
the
mullion
pattern
and
then
the
next
one
goes
slightly
taller
or
something
you
know
the
in
the
in
the
lighter
colors,
the
wider
or
vice
versa,
ricardo.
I'm
sorry,
kate.
I
need
to
quit
talking.
G
So
I
I
had
some
thoughts
that
kind
of
touch
on
everything
that
you
guys
have
been
talking
about.
One
another
question
I
had
was,
I
don't
know
about
a
question,
and
you
know,
maybe
you
guys
are
too
early
and
designed
to
really
be
to
really
have
an
answer
for
this,
but
the
you
know
I'm
assuming
this
is
all
concealed.
Fastener.
K
G
Pink
fasteners,
so
the
trim,
so
the
you
know
the
the
trim
like
in
in
in
this
view,
really
in
all
the
views
where
you
know
that
that
the
band
of
color
is
ending
right
at
the
top
of
that
window.
Right.
A
N
N
It's
not
big
at
all,
but
and
it's
if
you
looked
at
the
rad
view
project,
it's
the
same
same
detail
as
far.
F
A
G
G
We're
not
building
high,
so
this
building
actually
allow
you
know
force
you
the
the
the
opportunity
to
to
highlight
that,
because
it's
not
that
big.
You
know
it's
tall
enough
and
it's
not
that
not
that
big
in
plan,
so
you
can
actually
do
this
and
give
it
a
unique
flavor
on
the
drawings
we
got
the
the
opera
I'm
assuming
these
are
operable
windows.
G
N
N
In
and
most
of
it's
glass,
I
mean
it's
kind
of
we're
trying
to
connect
you
since
they're,
not
huge.
So
I
think
in
the
previous
one
you'd
seen
we
may
have
split,
but
now
we're
showing
these
as
one
unit.
G
N
But
we
did
like
you
said
we
did
flip-flop,
just
the
operable
portions.
I
you
see
a
lot
of
projects
today
where
windows
don't
line
up
and
I've
done
that
before,
and
I
think
it
can
be
a
really
great
kind
of
design
tool,
but
it
just
it
looked
like
it
was
just
unnecessary
on
this
one.
G
Well,
on
the
on
the
previous
version,
where
you
had
them
split,
I
think
you
know
I
was
gonna
say
I
I
think
that's
a
really
great
opportunity
if
the
if
the
floor
plan
allows
it
to
actually
like
shift
them,
you
know
shift
them
in
in
in
the
vertical
plane
as
well.
I
mean
not,
you
know
in
and
out
obviously,
but
just
side
to
side,
because
you
had
a
basically
you
had
a
unit
that
you
were,
you
know
flip-flopping
around,
but
that
unit
was
staying.
G
Staying
still
as
opposed
to
shifting
you
know
where
you
have
the
thin
windows
over.
G
And
I
don't,
I
don't
know
that.
That's
necessarily
good.
You
know
you
guys
are
heading
in
a
different
direction
and
you
know
with
the
with
the.
I
don't
know
how
that's
gonna,
how
that
plays
out.
If
you
start
switching
the
the
depth
of
the
colors,
but.
G
On
the
stair
towers,
I
also
really
like
what
you've
done
since,
because
on
the
on
the
drawings,
we
got
the
stair
tower.
Had
it's
the
what
what
you
have
on
the
3d
renderings
that
looks
yeah.
This
is
the
newer
one
right,
uh-huh.
A
G
A
G
G
Yeah
but
then
at
the
top
you
allow
it
to
continue,
as
opposed
to
you
know,
continuing
that
that
pattern
that
you
had,
which
was
then
getting
chopped
off
by
the
diagonals,
and
then
you
know
here,
you're
you're,
stopping
that
horizontal
at
the
roof
line
and
then
staying
vertical
above,
which
actually
looks
a
lot
better
and
looks
like
it's
actually
responding
to
the
fact
that
the
stair
tower
is
about
to
end,
and
it
makes
I
think
it
makes
the
diagonals
even
more
interesting
because
with
the
other
one
I
was
like.
You
know.
G
F
G
E
Okay,
so
I'm
gonna
shift
gears
to
the
site
and
landscape,
and
I
just
really
want
to
acknowledge
that
I
feel
like
you
know,
I
really
appreciate
avoiding
the
suburban
massing
and
architecture
and
structures,
but
I
just
think
you
all
did
it.
At
least
you
know
looking
at
the
renderings
a
tremendous
job,
avoiding
that
in
the
landscape,
which
just
doesn't
happen
here
in
nashville,
we
design
these
great
buildings
and
like
very
forward
thinking
and
then
like.
We
do
like
just
the
minimum
compliance
and
you
and
I
mean
so.
E
I
just
really
want
to
commend
like
the
thought
and
the
effort
that
went
into
all
these
leftover
spaces
around
the
building
and
it
would
have
been
very
easy
to
just
you
know,
throw
in
a
few
things
and
that'd
be
enough,
and
it
that's
that's
no
simple
task,
so
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
that
if
you
could
go
to
the
rendering
page
and
when
I,
when
I
talk
about
this,
I
really
appreciate
you
know
we're
seeing
containers
we're
seeing
terraces
we're
seeing
traditional
graded
trees,
so
we're
we're
stitching
vegetation
in
very
creative
ways.
E
These
are
also
ways
that
are
very
easy
to
be.
Like
value
engineered
out
as
we
begin
the
budgeting
process
and
going
into
value
engineering-
and
I
would
really
encourage
you-
know
the
client
and
the
design
team
to
I
mean
that's
what
makes
this
special
this
site
special,
and
so
if
that
ends
up
being
cleared
out
or
diminished,
then
I
think
it
won't
be
as
strong
or
special,
and
I
I
think
that
that's
a
really
important
point
to
make.
Let's
see
I
have
just.
I
really
think
this
is
landscape
forward.
E
When
I
look
at
the
renderings,
though
I
see
these
like
really
fluffy
leafy
large
trees,
which
again
I
love
seeing
like
larger
canopy
trees,
as
opposed
to
flowering
understory
trees,
which
I
love,
but
just
in
you
know
in
in
this
context
it
would
be
nice
and
but
I
saw
just
the
gingkos
on
the
planet
list
so
just
wondering
if
maybe
there
are
some
other
like
larger
canopy
trees.
That
could
be
worked
in,
and
I
think
so,
then
I'm
also
going
to
get
on
my
like
so
box
about
green
infrastructure.
E
I
love
seeing
the
green
roof
and
the
and
the
living
facade
incorporated
in
there.
I
just
also
like
to
point
out
that
you
know
green
infrastructure
in
terms
of
green
roofs
are
really
nice
to
look
out
onto
that's
nice,
but
I
mean
that
large
upper
roof
isn't
a
huge
square
footage
that
a
very
thin
lightweight
system
that
maybe
doesn't
look
great
all
the
time
like
this
beautiful
garden,
could
really
be
operating
as
a
utility,
green
roof
or
as
a
utility
building
system.
O
Thank
you.
I
can't
speak
for
the
client
on
value
engineering,
but
I
can
say
from
a
precedent
standpoint.
We
were
very
pleased
that
jeremy
accepted
our
design
for
rad
view
and
installed
our
design
without
one
change.
C
H
C
H
H
We
could
do
all
sorts
of
things
with
this
building
and,
like
she
had
mentioned,
I
mean
we
just
kept
pulling
it
out
after
we
put
it
in,
but
I
do
recall
her
speak
to
it,
but
she
had
talked
about
and
in
terms
of
the
horizontal
design,
about
mimicking,
not
just
the
the
gradient
of
the
mountains,
but
like
the
train
cars,
it's
sort
of
this
sort
of
delineation
and
again
you
guys-
are
a
lot
smarter
and
designed
you
know
than
I
am
but-
and
I
appreciate
all
those
suggestions,
but
that's
sort
of
yeah
we've
played
with
a
lot.
H
N
G
N
H
E
I
have
one
more
quick
question
about
that:
the
road
that
comes
up
to
the
front
of
the
building
that
I
think
will
be
used
more
by
pedestrians
does
that
in
the
site
plan
it
looks
like
it
ended,
but
does
it
actually
connect
through.
H
It
does
not
it's
a
dead
end
road.
However,
I
did
purchase
a
remnant
dot
piece,
so
I
am
all
about
if
we
can
have
some
pedestrian
connectivity
in
the
future
or
work
with
the
greenways
to
have
it
go
through.
I
mean
I
that
is
the
bus
stops
right
down
there.
That
would
be
ideal.
N
Right,
there's
a
so
I'll
go
back
to
the
overall
image
really
quickly
so
you're
coming
up.
You
could,
if
you're
do
well
coming
up
this
way,
art
away,
you
could
right
before
crossing
the
bridge.
You
could
turn
around
right
here.
There's
a
turn
around
back
up,
but
other
than
that,
and
we,
I
don't
know
jeremy.
Will
we
end
up
with
a
sign
that
says
you
know
dead
end,
I'm
assuming
we
will
yeah.
H
N
But
it
would
be
wonderful
to
see
a
connection
you
know,
so
you
could
literally
come
and
come
all
the
way
up
this
way
and
around
and
then
yeah.
So
that's
that's
the
hope.
C
Well,
this
looks
great
guys
and
if
anybody
else
has
any
comment,
let's
try
to
wrap
it
up
so
that
we
can
move
on
to
our
next
agenda
item.
So
we
did
have
a
public
comments
via
email
about
someone
wanting
the
driveway
to
be
an
artful
way
yeah
and
that
the
thought
about
the
part
that
there
was
too
much
parking
but
with
the
bridge
wait
only.
A
C
N
And
and
actually
that's
something
to
keep
in
mind,
you
know
the
river
arts
district
is
going
to
probably
get
rid
of.
You
know
any
reduction,
and
I
don't
know
about
how
you
guys
feel.
But
you
know
urban
urbanism
is
killed
by
the
car.
So
yeah
I'd
like
to
see
you
know
the
parking
minimums
go
away
in
a
sense
force.
Other
options.
G
N
So
getting
in
trouble,
so
I
I
guess
my
next
question
is:
when
we
come
back
and
then
have
a
formal
presentation,
is
there
an
opportunity
to
even
send
something
ahead
of
time
and
get
some
feedback
if
we're
going
to
play
around
with
some
of
the
metal
panels?
C
I
You
can
send
it
through
staff.
I
would
think
that
talked
to
will
and
sasha
about
that
we've
had
we've
had
other
materials
come
to
us.
I
And
as
long
as
we,
you
know
anything
that
we
communicate
with
and
to
you
is
published,
you
know
so
that
public
can
see
it
and
search
it.
I
I
wouldn't
think
that
would
be
an
issue
there's
no.
It's.
I
Any
of
those
rules-
okay,
so
but
but
but
we
just
want
to
keep
a
good,
a
good
record
of
it,
but
I
don't
know
why
we
couldn't
do
that
kind
of
informally
ahead
of
time.
H
C
B
Great,
I
believe,
aaron
bowman's,
on
the
line
with
us
welcome
aaron.
P
Yes,
that's
correct.
Can
everybody
hear
me?
Okay,
yes,
good!
Well,
as
well
said,
my
name
is
aaron
bowman,
I'm
an
architect
working
with
buckeye
community
hope
foundation
on
the
call.
Today
we
have
some
other
folks
from
buckeye
who
were
here
and
I
believe
I
saw
elijah
wakefield
with
miguel.
Our
civil
engineer,
I
think,
mary,
whether
our
landscape
architect
had
a
conflict,
I'm
not
sure
she'll
be
able
to
join
us
today,
but
we
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
jump
in
here.
P
P
Okay,
let's
see
all
right
is
everyone
seeing
my
screen
now?
Yes,
okay,
so
I
guess
I
can
start
with
a
simple
orientation
of
kind
of
where
we
are
so.
This
is
the
property
that
we're
seeing
here.
So
if
I
zoom
out
a
little
bit,
you
can
see
swannone
river
road,
here's,
the
walmart
and
240.,
so
obviously
the
greenway
that
we
saw
in
the
first
presentation
you
can
see
sort
of
looping
around
here.
P
This
was
one
of
the
intersections
that
was
mentioned
with
the
aldi,
so
we're
this
property
here,
it's
sort
of
a
kind
of
a
rhombus
triangular
sort
of
shape,
that's
that's
currently
vacant
and
the
project
that
we
are
here
to
talk
about
and
I'll
start
with
this
kind
of
site
diagram
here
is
a
70
unit,
affordable
housing
and
it's
going
to
be
a
senior
living
facility.
P
P
Initially,
we
were
targeting
a
little
over
40
units
for
this
site
and
in
some
of
our
preliminary
conversations
through
trc
with
the
city,
we
heard
a
strong
desire
and
support
to
try
to
increase
that
number.
So
we
did
a
series
of
design
studies
to
sort
of
see,
at
least
from
a
kind
of
massing
and
site
diagrammatic
standpoint.
P
What
we
felt
we
could
fit
within
the
site
make
work
with
our
parking
and
other
sort
of
constraints,
and
so
we've
we've
gotten
to
70
units,
and
just
this
week
we've
received
some
data
back
from
the
state
housing
authority
that
the
market
study
suggests
that
there
is
a
strong
need,
as
as
we
heard
and
suspected
so
we're
pursuing
70
units
for
this
site.
P
So
this
project
is
pursuing
funding
through
the
low-income
housing
tax
credit
program,
so
that
the
sort
of
final
application
for
that
will
be
in
may
and
part
of
that
is
that
we,
you
know
we
need
to
have
the
zoning
in
place
prior
to
that,
so
we're
still
at
a
fairly
conceptual
level
of
design
in
terms
of
resolution,
I'm
sort
of
working
to
get
zoning
in
place
and
then,
if
we're
successful
and
notified
later
in
the
summer
around
august
that
we
have
funding,
then
we
would
really
proceed
into
full
design.
P
So
that's
kind
of
where
we
are,
I
guess,
in
the
process,
so
you
can
see
on
the
overall
site
here.
This
is
swannano
river
road
down
below
governor's
view
up
here
on
the
top,
so
the
site-
currently,
if
I
can
switch
back
over
to
google
you
can
see-
is
empty
surrounded
by
some
light
industrial.
Obviously,
some
big
box
we've
got
the
walmart
over
here-
aldi
store
here
car
wash
here,
but
there
is
a
residential
neighborhood
to
the
north
sort
of
up
the
slope
up
the
hill.
P
So
the
this
site
is
just
a
little
over
three
acres,
so
fairly
constrained
for
the
program.
This
northeast
corner.
The
little
flag
here,
is
fairly
wet
portion
of
the
site,
so
we're
trying
to
stay
away
from
that.
P
There's
one
existing
access
off
of
governor's
view
road
and
we're
proposing
to
shift
that
slightly
a
little
bit
to
the
east
and
then
add
a
new
one
along
the
west
side,
so
that
we've
got
a
loop
circulation
through
the
parking
lot
there
and
then
providing
enough
for
for
sort
of
fire
access
around
the
building.
P
You
have
the
parking
located
along
governor's
view
road,
which
is
obviously
a
much
much
smaller
road,
so
that
that
pushes
the
building
back
a
little
bit
towards
swannanoa,
which
is
larger,
higher
traffic
road,
we're
trying
to
keep
a
good,
east-west
orientation
so
that
we've
got
good
solar
exposure
and
you
can
see
there's
some
sort
of
conceptual
landscaping
indicated
here.
I
think
you
got
a
copy
of
our
sort
of
draft
landscape
plan
as
well.
That
includes
a
lot
more
of
our
buffers,
as
well
as
our
street
trees
and
planning.
P
This
was
something
just
sort
of
diagrammatically
prepared.
The
building
is
an
l-shaped
party,
very
simple,
layout,
of
a
double
loaded
corridor
which
we'll
look
at
in
a
second,
but
you
can
see
again.
We've
got
primarily
parking
to
the
north,
and
then
we
have
our
outdoor
amenities
they're
located
on
the
south
side,
and
those
include
you
know:
we've
got
some
walking
trails
sort
of
loop
around
the
site,
there'll
be
outdoor
picnic
areas,
some
raised
garden
beds.
P
That
sort
of
thing
that
at
this
point
again,
we
just
sort
of
have
conceptual
placeholders
for
those,
but
we're
working
with
our
landscape
architect
to
sort
of
integrate
those
into
our
planting
plans,
just
some
other
sort
of
site
design.
P
Things
to
note
this
property
is
in
a
flood
plain,
so
we
will
be
elevating
the
building
pad
and
parking
lot
lots
up,
which
will
require
some
retaining
walls
along
the
perimeter
of
the
site
that
you
can
see
here
so
it'll
be
similar
to
what's
actually
at
the
aldi
next
door,
where
there's
kind
of
a
step
down
as
it
moves
towards
the
road
we
are
proposing
sidewalks
along
both
sides,
along
with
sidewalks
connectivity,
north
south
through
the
site.
P
There
is
an
existing
bus,
stop
there
that
we've
been
working
with
the
traffic
department
through
trc
to
work
about
sort
of
shifting
that
out
of
the
floodway
and
looking
at
the
best
location
for
that,
but
that
that
is
going
to
remain
and
we'll
actually
get
a
new
shelter
and
not
just
the
sort
of
stop
as
part
of
this
project.
P
But
all
of
that,
along
with
a
sewer
easement
that
exists
here
along
the
south
property
line,
has
actually
pushed
the
building
up
to
the
north,
another
probably
10
to
12
feet
since
this
has
been
developed,
which
gives
a
little
bit
more
open
space.
We
hope
between
swannanoa
and
the
building
so
hopefully
to
help
support
those
outdoor
amenities,
including
the
seating
areas,
and
that
sort
of
thing
as
we
move
around
so
again.
This
is
a
sort
of
typical
floor
plan,
so
we
have
70
units
across
four
stories.
P
It's
a
mix
of
two
and
one
bedroom
units,
so
the
two
bedrooms
are
the
orange
ones
that
you
see
here.
The
one
bedroom
units
are
the
sort
of
green
color.
The
kind
of
pink
or
magenta
sort
of
color
represents
tenant
amenities.
So
we
have
these
existing
on
every
floor
within
the
building.
P
So
you
know
we
recognize
this
is
a
senior
living
project
and
while
the
outdoor
amenities
are
nice,
they
might
not
be
you
know,
usable
all
year,
so
we
have
multi-purpose
rooms
inside
as
well
as
libraries,
fitness
rooms
and
that
sort
of
thing
that
occur
at
each
level
throughout
the
building
so
that
they
can
have
access
to
that
year-round.
This
project
is
going
to
be
100
percent,
affordable
too.
P
So
I
think,
based
on
our
current
financial
model,
which
is
a
little
bit
beyond
me,
but
as
I
understand
it,
we're
targeting
between
30
and
60
ami
for
all
of
these
units.
So
you
can
see
we
have
accessible
units
on
the
first
floor
here
and
those
will
include
both
mobility
units
as
well
as
speech
and
hearing
units
as
well.
We
do
have
elevators,
obviously,
but
we're
keeping
all
of
those
on
the
first
level
as
you
move
up
through
the
the
primary
difference
in
the
floor.
P
Plans
occurs
here
in
the
center,
where
we
have
the
office
a
sitting
area
and
kind
of
the
main
gathering
spaces
for
the
building
where
you've
got
a
nice
clean
access
through
to
the
outdoor
amenities
to
the
south,
as
you
enter
from
the
parking
lot
side
as
you
transition
up
through
the
building,
essentially
these
spaces
with
this
being
the
ground
floor
here,
those
simply
become
another
one
bedroom
unit
as
you
move
up,
and
so
then
the
the
third
and
fourth
floors
are
are
sort
of
copies
of
the
second.
P
As
it
moves
through.
You
can
see
sort
of
stairs
at
the
end,
really
simple
double
loaded
corridor
scheme.
Here
you
can
see
some
storage
laundry
areas
as
well
as
other
amenity
spaces
that
are
located
as
you
move
through
the
building
in
the
bend
of
the
l,
so
taking
advantage
of
areas
that
don't
necessarily
have
the
greatest
light
for
some
of
our
service
areas
like
the
elevators
and
storage.
P
So
you
know
I
realized
the
elevations
here
came
through
uncolorized,
so
not
the
the
most
helpful,
but
you
can
see
our
at
least
some
of
our
our
legend
over
here
and
I
can
sort
of
zoom
in
on
what
we're
looking
at.
So
you
know
we're
we're
working,
obviously,
with
a
somewhat
limited
funding
capacity
and
trying
to
be
you
know
judicious.
I
guess
I
could
say
with
our
our
choice
of
materials.
P
We
currently
have
another
project
with
the
north
carolina
housing
authority,
where
we
we
designed
around
a
series
of
stucco,
brick
and
cement
board,
and
just
because
of
cost
escalation,
we're
now
in
a
process
of
redesigning
that
as
it's
on
its
way
to
construction,
just
because
the
agency
doesn't
have
the
funding
to
support
that.
So
we've
been
asked
to
to
move
back
and
look
at
options
of
vinyl
siding
and
that
sort
of
thing.
P
So,
with
this
project
we're
we're
trying
to
sort
of
start,
there
proactively
think
about
how
we
can
really
prioritize
materials,
and
so
what
I
would
say
is
probably
our
our
bigger
design
move
is
we're
looking
at
using
a
synthetic
stone
veneer.
So
what
we're
showing
here?
Something
like
a
cultured
stone.
You
know
it
could
be
el
dorado
stone
or
any
of
the
other
sort
of
manufacturers.
P
We
haven't
necessarily
nailed
it
down
yet,
but
the
idea
of
this
sort
of
river
rock
and
a
combination
of
siding
so
both
vertical
and
a
board
and
batten
pattern
horizontal
and
some
shakes
and
looking
at
that
in
combination.
So
again
nothing,
that's
relatively
you
know,
super
innovative
or
unique
to
this
housing
typology,
but
something
that
we
know
can
be
successfully
employed
and
so
trying
to
use
this
stone
to
give
the
building
a
strong
base
and
sort
of
anchor
it
down.
P
And
you
know
obviously,
listening
to
previous
conversation
hearing
the
the
discussion
of
you
know
the
typical
strategy
that
we've
employed
here
of
using
verticality
to
break
this
up.
You
know,
I
think
that
you
know
you're.
All
aware
of.
I
would
imagine
some
of
the
the
constraints
that
were
under
it.
It
is
a
200
foot,
long
facade,
particularly
you
know,
on
this
long
side,
the
other
side
of
the
l-
it's
not
quite
as
long
so
we
do
feel
that
some
sort
of
articulation
is
necessary.
P
It's
well
is
required
by
the
housing
design
guidelines.
So
we
have,
you
know
certain
distances
we
can
go
before.
We
have
to
have
sort
of
breaks
and
plane
of
the
facade,
our
you
know,
break
in
the
plane
of
the
roof
and
that
sort
of
thing.
So
you
know
there
is
there's
a
strong
sort
of
push
towards
this
sort
of
traditional
approach,
but
that's
certainly
something
that
that
we're
open
to
discussing
you
know
as
as
we
move
forward.
P
You
know
for
this
site,
and-
and
you
know
what
the
committee
feels
is
important,
but
you
know
the
sort
of
horizontal
transitions
are
something
we
tried
to
avoid,
because
that
comes
with
a
sort
of
mandatory
trim,
band
and
color
change
at
each
level
and
that
sort
of
candy,
striping
layer
cake,
I
think,
is-
is
really
not
going
to
be
successful
on
a
building.
That's
that's
got
this
sort
of
length
of
facade,
so
we've
tried
to
avoid
that
to
keep
a
restrained.
P
Pallet
of
you
know,
sort
of
continuous
applications
of
of
materials
to
get
a
variety
of
texture
where
we
have
the
shakes
on
these
sort
of
main
vertical
elements,
siding
horizontal
siding.
Excuse
me
on
these
elements,
sort
of
in
between
and
then
anchoring
at
the
ends
with
our
vertical
siding,
and
so
that's
a
strategy
that
essentially
carries
around
the
building,
as
well
as
these
stair
towers
that
are
here
on
the
end,
keeping
them
very
simple
trying
to
get
some
windows
in
there.
P
So
we
have
nice
light
at
the
end
of
the
stairs
and
then
all
of
these
looking
at
sort
of
a
more
muted
palette
of
earth
tones.
So
this
is
not
a
building.
That's
trying
to
really
sort
of
stand
out.
I
mean
this
is
a
a
very
quick
colorized.
Rendering
study
that
we
did
to
to
show
sort
of
the
effect
of
you
know
some
of
the
entry
where
you
can
start
to
see
the
stone
base.
P
So
again,
all
of
these
colors
are
sort
of
you
know
first
draft
at
some
materials
that
we
might
use
to
try
to
work
with
this
kind
of
natural
material
palette.
I
think,
beyond
that
you
know
we
we've
got.
This
is
the
landscape
plan
here,
where
you
can
start
to
see
some
of
the
other
additional
landscaping
that
I
was
talking
about,
and
some
of
these
paths
and
things
that
we're
working
to
to
better
integrate.
P
Looking
at
options,
you
know,
particularly
here
at
the
entry,
possibly
at
the
you
know
the
picnic
areas
where
we
could
do
some
sort
of
accent
paving
whether
that's
you
know
an
actual
change
in
material
of
pavers
or
perhaps
we
could
look
at
even
just
a
something
as
simple
as
a
creative
score
pattern
and
and
use
of
some
stain
on
concrete
just
to
create
something.
P
That's
a
little
bit
more
of
an
interesting
focal
point
where
we
have
these
kind
of
outdoor
seating
areas
for
people
to
move
around
and
then
obviously
the
the
plant
list
as
well.
You
can
see
what's
proposed
for
that,
beyond
that
we
have
some
some
civil
drawings
that
I
think
were
included,
and
we
could
look
at
some
of
the
the
other
sort
of
technical
grading
challenges
and
that
sort
of
thing
on
site
if
you're
interested.
P
C
Thanks,
does
anybody
have
anything
right
off
the
bat.
P
C
I
am
an
architect
and
I
do
lie
tech
and
I
totally
understand
the
need
to
keep
materials
inexpensive.
That
is
a
problem
that
I
deal
with
as
well,
so
my
comments
aren't
related
to
the
material
choices.
It's
more.
Some
of
the
volumes
I
think
are
confusing
to
me
like
when
I
look
at
the
north
elevation.
C
It
feels
off
and
some
of
the
roofs
poke
up
higher
than
the
main
roof,
and
I'm
not
sure
why
the
stair
towers
poke
up
and
then
there's
another
one
that
pokes
up
higher
than
the
main
roof,
and
I
just
feel
like
the
masting
and
the
roof
doesn't
really
make
sense
to
me
yet,
and
I
I
the
the
stone
at
the
stair,
where
it's
cut
out
to
me,
makes
it
seem
like
fake
stone.
C
Okay,
so
I
I
don't
personally
like
that
little
notch
with
the
stone
floating
over
because
I
feel
like
it
reads
as
as
thin
stone.
So
I'd
also
like
to
see
some
more
detailing
in
the
stone,
if
possible,
like
a
header
or
some
kind
of
lentil,
or
something
to
give
it
a
little
more
realness.
C
And
you
know
we,
I
would
love
to
see
some
more
color
images
of
this
and
the
verticality
breaking
up
vertical,
I
think,
is
fine
because
they
do
have
these
regulations
where
you
have
to
step
back
and
things
like
that.
But
I
don't
know
if
that
means
every
piece
needs
to
be
repeated.
Maybe
then
it
could
step
back
and
the
materials
don't
have
to
change
or
something
to
some
have
some
more
of
a
cohesive
language
without
it
being
a
change
at
every
step.
Back.
C
And
the
entry
piece
where
the
redwood
common
sign
is,
I
I
I
want
that
piece
to
be
more
special
than
the
other
two
that
are
just
like
it.
I
want
that
one
to
kind
of
draw
you
in
maybe
the
roof
is
more
special.
Maybe
the
there's
a
color
if
you
do
want
to
use
less
of
a
muted
color,
maybe
there's
a
good
opportunity
for
it,
but
those
are
just
some
thoughts
that
I
had
right
off
the
bat
anybody
else
have
any
feedback.
P
Thank
you
for
those
comments.
I
I
guess
one
thing
that
I
think
it
just
and
I
don't.
I
don't
really
know
the
I
guess
formal
process
here,
but
and
it's
a
little
weird
because
I'm
not
sure
how,
when
I'm
presenting
to
see
y'all
as
well
as
what
you're
seeing
on
my
screen,
but
some
of
this
with
the
stair.
I
think
that's
a
good
comment
with
the
notch
I
mean
we
need
we
need
to.
P
We
do
need
to
provide
a
covering
at
that
exit,
and
you
know
we're
trying
to
find
a
way
to
to
do
that
without
just
sort
of
sticking
something
else
on
the
building.
That's
gonna
become
a
leaf
trap,
but
I
think
we
can
find
a
way
to
do
that
that,
maybe
doesn't
you
know
it
reads
pretty
harsh
with
these,
you
know
sort
of
rabbit
shadows
that
you're
seeing
here-
and
you
know
part
of
this-
is
the
ability
to
get
we're
trying
to
use
the
stairs
just
to
get
up
into
the
attic.
P
But
you
know
we're
also
talking
about
some
of
this
potentially
moving
to
a
flat,
roof
and
and
then
sort
of
using
the
vertical
elements.
Maybe
it's
something
that's
sloping,
so
I
think
we
could
probably
find
a
way
to
do
that,
potentially
using
roof
hatches
or
something
and
not
just
sort
of
taking
the
stairs
up.
But
that's
you
know
just
sort
of
a
weird
thing:
that's
driving
it,
but
I
see
what
you're
saying
it
is
funny
that
it's
sort
of
the
only
thing
within
the
plane
of
the
roof.
C
G
G
You
know
two
volumes
next
to
it
and
as
far
as
those
cutouts,
so
as
far
as
the
entrance
yeah
I'd
want
to
see
that
be
more
exp,
you
know
more
expressed
and
and
maybe
that
that's
an
easy
way
to
to
also
kind
of
help
that
that
repetition
that
robin
was
talking
about
is
if
that
guy
actually
gets
a
little
bit
wider
right
and
the
and
the
roof
is
actually
pitched.
G
You
know
forward
and
or
rather
you
know
to
the
side
so
you're,
seeing
the
the
gable
and
then
that
that
can
help
to
separate
it,
and
you
know
from
from
the
other
two
as
well,
for
you
know
to
break
up
that
repetition
and
then
on
those
cutouts
on
the
stair
too.
They
they
do
seem
a
little
bit
out
because
they
it's
a
very
you
know
it.
G
The
the
language
of
the
of
the
building
is
very
traditional,
but
that
looks
like
a
very
modern
contemporary
move,
so
I
you
know
I
as
much
as
I'd
like
modern
contemporary
moves.
I
would
I
think
I
would
want
to
see
that
cut
out,
come
back
down
to
the
ground
and
not
float
like
that,
and
I
agree
on
the
on
the
stone
work.
G
I
think
it's
a
great
comment,
but
just
on
the
massing
of
that
of
that
point
on
the
you
know
and
then
question
and
be
remiss
if
we
didn't
talk
about
this,
I
mean
you
are
right
across
the
street
from
that
greenway
and
looking
at
the
at
the
site
plan.
It
looks
like-
and
I
I
you
know
I
know
I
know
what's
going
on
you're
you're
fighting
grades,
but
the
the
connection
to
the
sidewalk
on
swananoa
river
road
is
all
the
way
on
the
opposite
end.
G
A
G
I
mean
if
you're
you
know
and
if
you're
somebody
coming
down
and
just
land
right
there
and
you
cross
the
street
and
you're
you're
on
the
greenway.
I
mean
not
right
now,
obviously,
but
soon.
P
Yeah,
I
think
that
the
the
challenge
I
think
I
mentioned
that
that's
driving
that-
and
you
know
this
doesn't
mean-
there's
not
a
way
around
it.
It's
just
that.
It's
that's
the
floodway,
so
just
the
the
technical
challenge
of
sort
of
flood
resistant
design
versus
versus
bringing
someone
down
here.
But
you
know
it's
it's
a
it's
a
sort
of
catch-22,
because
you
still
have
to
then
sort
of
move
through
the
floodway.
G
We
couldn't
and
you
couldn't
just
bring
them
down
there,
because
then,
when
that
floods,
that's
you
know,
then
com,
it's
it's
blocked.
So.
P
G
P
Yeah,
so
you
know
certainly
something
that
that
we
can
study,
I
mean
because
we,
you
know,
we
obviously
recognize.
P
As
you
said,
getting
to
this
corner
from
a
pedestrian
connectivity
standpoint
is,
is
very
important
and
you
know
particularly
with
what
we
saw
earlier.
You
know
I
hadn't
seen
that
video,
so
that
was
that
was
really
interesting
for
me
to
sort
of
learn
about
that,
but
it
knew
the
greenway
was
over
there,
but
didn't
realize
the
sort
of
timeline
of
development.
So
I
mean
I
think
that
makes
that
corner
all
the
more
important
for
us
to
consider
from
a
site
standpoint.
So
that's
a
great
comment.
Thank
you.
F
P
Yes,
I
guess
I'm
assuming
you're,
probably
exterior
renderings.
You
really
had
one
that
was
a.
A
P
F
I
said
just
I
am
going
to
comment
on
the
materials
I
understand.
The
limitation
of
you
know
your
finances,
but
I'm
just
curious.
If
there's
not
some
some
inexpensive
materials
that
could
be
other
options
that
don't
it
feels
dated
to
me
and
I've
worked
on
a
couple
of
these
projects
and
I
think,
there's
opportunities
for
some
different
materials
that
maybe
are
still
in
the
same
price
range.
With
a
less
dated
look
possibly.
P
I
mean
you
know:
we've
we've
talked
a
lot
about
you
know,
party,
siding
is
one
thing.
You
know
they
obviously
have
panelized
systems.
You
know
you
don't
necessarily
have
to
step
up
to
something
like
you
know
the
equitone
or
nichiha.
That's
a
higher
end.
A
P
Has
you
know,
essentially,
four
by
eight
panelized
system
that
you
know
we
could
explore
for
some
of
these?
That
would
give
you
know
more
penalized.
I
mean
part
of
the
challenge
of
this
too,
with
the
the
verticality
of
it.
You
know
the
scale
of
the
thin
siding.
You
know
the
board
and
baton,
especially
I
think
moving
vertically
is,
is
you
know
not
as
successful
as
I
would?
I
would
hope.
I
think,
sort
of
larger
scale.
P
Panelized
system
probably
would
would
read
a
little
bit
better.
So
you
know
it
might
be
that
that
we
maybe
still
have
a
base
material
where
we
might
have
some
sort
of
vinyl,
but
I
think
you
know
our
our
stone
or
our
masonry.
You
know
sort
of
base
which
you
know
we're
hoping
to
keep
this
stone
and
then
maybe
there's
there's
some
sort
of
in
between
I
mean.
Is
that
a
fair?
Is
that
what
I'm
hearing
you
think
yeah.
F
And
I
just
agree
with
robin
about
maybe
the
detailing
between
the
transition
of
materials,
and
maybe
that
would
help
a
lot
with
the
just
breaking
it
up
or
creating
some
some
type
of
language
there.
It
just
appears
very
flat.
P
C
Yeah
in
that
rendering
I
was
looking,
and
I
mean
the
windows
are
so
small
and
there's
so
much
space
between
them,
especially
where
the
bedrooms
are
and
those
bump
outs
that
that
vertical
siding
yeah.
I
think
if
you
could
pick
something.
Maybe
that
was
larger
and
I
don't
know
it
would
feel
like.
There
was
less
less
of
a
vast
space
between
the
windows,
yeah.
P
I
think
that's
fair,
I
mean
it's,
you
know
several
you've
mentioned
the
you
know,
you're
familiar
with
this
sort
of
typical
repetitive
nature
of
this
trying
to
find
you
know
the
balance
of
economy
and
variety.
So
I
mean
I
think
these
are
all
the
really
great
comments.
You
know,
there's
obviously
been
studies,
you
know
what
gets
to
be
a
double.
What
gets
to
be
a
single?
How
do
you
you
know?
I
think
that
could
potentially
be
something
that
we
could
revisit.
P
We
also
frankly
have
one
window
in
this
again
in
an
effort
to
economize.
We
could
potentially,
you
know,
start
to
study
something.
That's
it's
maybe
a
little
bit
smaller.
You
know
as
it
moves
across
the
facade.
I
mean
we
have
the
small
ones
and
the
landings
at
the
stair,
but
that's
a
little
different
there.
Those
are
sort
of
at
the
ends,
but
within
the
main
facade
you
know
that
might
be
something
that
we
can
look
at
to
include
a
little
bit
more
variety.
P
To
help
to
help
create,
I
guess
rhythm,
but
not
be
so
repetitive.
I
guess
is
maybe
what
I'm
hearing
is
that
fair.
E
Yeah,
just
be
real
fast,
just
a
couple,
quick
comments.
If
you
could
go
back
to
that,
rendering
that
you
just
showed
so,
I
think
that's
indicative
of
what
the
parking
lot
is
going
to
feel
and
look
like.
It's
really
open.
It's
sunny,
it's
hot
there's
a
lot
of
asphalt!
E
I'm
not
going
to
want
to
so
just
to
say
that
in
your,
I
think,
in
your
the
landscape
plan.
The
trees
in
those
islands
is
a
more
pure
middle
tree,
so
think
about
something
that
maybe
is
a
little
bit
more
broader
branching
that
can
cast
more
shadow
to
help
with
just
the
heat
off
that
asphalt
parking
lot,
not
just
to
make
it
more
environmentally
sound,
but
just
more
pleasant.
I
think
it
would
be.
E
And
then,
if
you
could
go
to
the
landscape
plan,
the
planting
plan
understand
about
the
budgetary
constraints.
E
E
A
C
Mr
great
kate,
thanks
did
anybody,
help
have
anything.
C
G
Robin's
gonna
hate
me,
so
I'm
I'm
looking
I'm
just
thinking
about
the
it's.
It's
kind
of
back,
going
back
to
the
to
the
first
project,
a
little
bit
or
the
previous
project,
rather
the
the
the
way
that
the
stone
is
coming
up
to
the
windowsill.
G
It's
it's
kind
of
you
know
it's
kind
of
just
coming
up
and
kind
of
choking
up
against
it.
I
think
I
would
suggest
pulling
it
down
a
little
bit
from
that
window,
sill
and
letting
letting
the
window
you
know
giving
some
breathing
room
around
that
window.
It's
also.
It
also
gives
you
an
opportunity
to
play
with
that
stone
pedestal.
As
you
go
around
the
building.
F
G
Know
right
now
you
have
basically
two
heights.
You
have
you
know
the
the
recesses
are
down
to
the
first
floor
window
sill
and
then
the
bump
outs
are
coming
up
to
the
second
windowsill.
I
don't
you
know
I
might.
I
might
even
get
rid
of
the
stone
at
the
recesses
where
it's
so
low
anyway,
I
don't
know
if
you're
looking
for
some
sort
of
protection,
for
you
know
almost
like
a
you
know,
vertical
most
strip
sort
of
sort
of
thing,
but
you
know
you
can
you
can
achieve
that?
G
You
know
in
in
different
ways
too.
If
you
know,
if
you're
still
looking
to
you
know,
get
that
siding
off
the
ground
and
then
that
you
know
that's
what
that's
gonna
allow
you
to
do
is
take.
You
know
the
same
materials
that
you
have.
You
know
it's
the
same.
You
know
square
footage
of
material
of
stone
that
you
have,
and
you
know,
horse
trade
around
the
building.
G
So
you
can
you
know
going
back
to
that
entrance.
For
example,
you
can
maybe
you
can
bring
that
stone
higher
up,
even
all
the
way
up
at
the
entrance
and
then
bring
it
a
little
bit
lower
on
the
at
the
corners
and
then
bring
it
down
at
the
you
know
the
the
flanking
bump
outs
but
yeah
my
you
know.
The
comment
is
really
like.
You
have
that.
G
Do
you
have
those
two
datum
lines
and
they're
just
they're
just
tight
against
that
window,
and
I
don't
I
think,
giving
that
window
you
know
and
and
and
the
material
around
the
window
time
to
resolve.
You
know
space
to
resolve
itself.
A
G
Will
will
will
help.
P
Okay,
yeah,
I
understand
we
we
do
have
a
part
of
the
requirements.
Are
a
sort
of
continuous
masonry
base,
there's
a
minimal
dimension,
but
that
might
be
something
you
know
that
that's
sort
of
written
for
a
general
case,
so
it
might
be
something
that
we
can
talk
to
them
about.
If
we,
if
we
did
sort
of
take
that
out,
you
know
like
you're,
saying
in
certain
areas
as
a
trade
for
others.
P
You
know
that
could
be
something
that
we
can
look
at,
but
I
think
I
think
either
way
you
know
the
comment
about
the
the
transition
at
the
sill.
I
mean
it's,
you
know
it's,
it's
again,
a
fairly
sort
of
abrupt.
You
know
we
do
have
a
you
know
the
sort
of
fill
cap
that
comes
with
these
stone
systems,
but
it's
really
only
like
an
inch
and
a
half
two
inches.
So
it's
not.
P
You
know,
like
maybe
a
row
lock,
brick,
that's
got
a
little
bit
more
depth
and
even
with
you
know,
we're
anticipating
a
little
bit
of
a
projection.
For
you
know
water
management
as
well
as
just
shadow
lines.
I
I
don't
think
it.
You
know
it's.
It's
not
going
to
read
like
a
very
strong
sort
of
datum,
so
that's
something
we
can
look
at
the
relationship
to
the
windows.
Thank
you.
C
We
had
a
public
comment,
email
about
the
entrance
from
governor's
drive.
This
person
was
concerned
about
the
narrowness
of
governor's
drive
and
was
wondering
if
there
was
any
talks
to
use
the
entrance
to
the
aldi
that
shared
or
have
that
be
a
shared
drive.
So
I
mean
I
don't
know
what
the
deal
is
with
that,
I'm
just
letting
you
know
what
the
comment
was.
P
Yeah,
there's
really
swannanoa
is
complicated
as
an
entry
point
for
a
number
of
reasons,
a
lot
of
it
just
because
of
the
the
proximity.
I
can
switch
back
over
the
site
plan
to
that
intersection.
I
guess
we
can
see
it
here.
You
know
trying
to
get
the
the
distance
where
we
need
to
be
sort
of
away
from
that
and
have
manageable
traffic
and
and
otherwise
work
with
the
site.
It's
very
difficult
so
and
again,
just
with
the
flood
way
down
in
the
corner.
P
Even
in
our
initial
conversations
in
trc
we
we
started
with
sort
of
one
entrance
here,
one
entrance
here
and
we're
trying
to
make
that
work
and
just
with
the
the
parking
requirements
and
traffic
flow.
You
know
we
feel
it
just
works
a
lot
better
and
makes
a
lot
more
sense
along
governors.
M
Yeah,
I'm
actually
the
person
who
wrote
the
email
about
the
governor's
view
access,
I
think,
to
use
the
light
and
the
driveway
that
goes
to
aldi,
where
a
driver
could
just
turn
to
the
right
at
to
go
into
aldi
or
turn
to
the
left.
To
go
into
this
parking
lot
makes
a
hundred
percent
more
sense
than
chewing
up
governor's
view.
I'm
sure
the
construction
process
itself
is
gonna,
it's
gonna
destroy
governor's
view
road,
but
hopefully
that'll
get
it
dealt
with.
M
So
I
really
believe
it's
not
a
matter
of
putting
a
driveway
that
avoids
that
intersection,
but
it's
to
use
that
intersection
as
the
access
point,
the
primary
access
point
off
swananoa
river
to
go
up
that
extension
of
bleachery.
I
don't
even
I'm
not
sure
if
that
belongs
to
aldi
or
if
you'd
have
to
get
an
easement
or
right
away.
M
M
M
P
P
Okay,
well,
I
mean
a
couple
of
easy
things
for
sustainability.
I
did
fail
to
mention
you
know
as
part
of
this
process.
This
will
be
pursuing
a
green
building
rating.
At
this
time
we
anticipate
doing
energy
star
for
multifamily,
that's
typically
what
we
use.
So
we
have
a
third
party
consultant
who
will
be
part
of
our
team
to
help
us
sort
of
guide
through
that
process.
You
know
at
this
time
we're
still
very
early
in
design.
P
You
know
vegetated
roofs
and
you
know
solar
panels
and
that
sort
of
thing
you
know
haven't
really
been
discussed.
You
know
it's
a
wood
frame
building,
you
know
the
vegetative
roof
is
is
possible,
but
bit
challenging
plan
at
least
planning
for
solar
panels
is
something
that
you
know.
I
think
we
will
definitely
be
discussing
all
that's
down
the
road.
I
can't
promise
that
it
would
be
included
because
again,
a
lot
of
this.
P
You
know
it's
just
sort
of
subject
to
the
the
funding
that
we
can
get
and
those
are
simply
not
sort
of
base
design
requirements
for
the
state,
so
they're
typically
not
funded,
unless
we
can
find
a
good,
creative
way
to
work
them
in,
and
you
know
hopefully
we'll
be
able
to
do
that.
You
know
in
terms
of
access,
you
know
the
access
that
that
was
mentioned
goes
through
the
adjacent
property.
P
So
you
know
it's
hard
to
see
here,
but
if
you
can
imagine
this
little
flag
that
I
talked
about
in
this
you
know,
adjacent
property
you
know
is,
is
just
different.
That's
again,
yes
off
our
site.
That
would
be
cutting
us
off.
So
you
know
we're
really
not
in
a
position
to
to
get
that
easement,
so
governor's
view
again
is
the
simplest
access
that
we
can
get.
So
that's
what
we're
proceeding
with
for
now
and
to
the
question
of
massing.
P
Yes,
I
mentioned
in
my
presentation
that
you
know
we
did
start
out
as
a
two
to
three
story:
building
in
a
lower
number
of
units.
You
know
in
our
discussion
with
the
city.
You
know
we
heard
support
for
us
to
explore
going
to
a
larger
building,
and
so
we
did
that
and
that's
you
know
how
we
arrived
at
70
units
so
and
that
pushed
us
up
to
four
floors.
P
P
So
you
know
we,
there
are,
you
know,
sort
of
one
and
a
half
and
two-story
buildings,
big
box
development
around
us,
so
we've
we've
tried
to
again
sort
of
push
the
building
to
the
middle
of
the
site
to
kind
of
mitigate
the
scale,
particularly
along
governor's
view,
which
is
a
more
narrow
road
but
yeah,
and
I
think
otherwise,
just
the
articulation
of
the
massing.
You
know
again
trying
to
break
down
the
scale
of
the
building,
but
it
is
a
four-story
building.
In
this
context,.
C
C
If
not
do
you
think
I
have
any
future
discussion
topics
for
the
next
meeting.
P
I
do
have
sort
of
a
a
process
question
just
kind
of
for
my
edification.
If
you
don't
mind
so
so,
as
I
mentioned
we're,
you
know
on
a
relatively
tight
timeline
to
sort
of
get
our
zoning
stuff
done
so
we're
you
know
we're
planning
to
submit
for
the
april
design
review
meeting
for
our
our
formal
review.
I
guess
I
should
say
so
with
that
you
know
that's
gonna
be
before
we've
really
gone
for
our
final
application,
which
would
be
dependent
on
it,
and
then
you
know
obviously
I
talked
about.
P
We
would
have
sort
of
additional
design
that's
going
to
develop
later
in
the
year.
So
at
this
point
you
know,
like
I
said,
we're
kind
of
at
a
height
scale
in
mass
and
we're
moving
towards
architectural
direction,
materials
finalization.
You
know
within
the
purview
of
this
committee.
I
guess
I'd
like
to
just
sort
of
get
an
understanding.
P
You
know
several
of
you
knowing
kind
of
the
process
that
we're
in
you
know
what
sort
of
what
we're
able
to
submit,
knowing
that
that
there
is
still
going
to
be
some
additional
design
work
that
has
to
happen.
So
I
guess
just
sort
of
making
sure
we
understand
the
requirements
and
expectations
along
with
you
know
our
process
in
place.
B
We
can
speak
more
about
that,
maybe
offline
aaron.
It
depends
on
on
the
scope
of
the
additional
designs
and
then
have
the
timing
work
together,
whether
it's
like
a
phased
approach
or
or
whatever.
Let's
talk
offline
and
figure
out
the
best
way
forward.
For
that.
C
Thank
you
and
thanks
everybody
welcome
new
members,
it's
great
to
have
you
and
see
you
next
time,
bye.