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B
All
right,
the
meeting
will
now
come
to
order.
Welcome
to
the
february
28
2022
city
of
asheville
board
of
adjustments
meeting,
my
name
is
pratik
bhakta
and
I'm
chair
of
this
board.
The
board
of
adjustments
is
a
quasi-judicial
body
that
is
governed
by
the
north
carolina
general
statutes
and
the
city's
unified
development
ordinance.
We
are
authorized
to
hear
requests
for
variances
from
the
city's
unified
development.
B
All
committee
members
and
staff
are
participating
virtually.
We
appreciate
your
appreciate
patience
as
we
work
through
committee
meetings
online
and
a
bit
differently.
We
are
streaming
live
on
our
virtual
engagement
hub,
which
is
accessible
through
the
virtual
engagement
hub
link
on
the
front
page
of
the
city
website,
and
also
linked
on
the
board
of
adjustments
page.
B
I
will
now
go
through
the
and
introduce
all
the
committee
members
who
are
participating
virtually
please
make
sure
to
mute
and
unmute
your
microphone.
If
you
are
speaking
or
not
speaking,
when
you
have
a
question
or
would
like
to
speak
unmute
your
microphone,
please
remember
to
mute
your
phone
after
you're
done
speaking
committee
members,
as
I
call
your
name,
please
say
a
quick
hello
bill
newman
good
afternoon.
There,
paul
wazinski,
here
carter,
webb
here
and
andrew
garrard
alternate
here.
B
Hey
also
with
us
today-
is
our
assistant
city
attorney.
Eric
edgarton.
I'd
also
like
I'll,
also
ask
that
anyone
speaking
today,
including
staff,
to
state
their
names
and
titles
for
the
record
before
speaking
and
be
sworn
in,
if
you
haven't
done
so
at
the
beginning,
to
help
our
audience
follow
along
I'll
stage
each
section
of
the
agenda
out
loud
and
do
a
vocal
roll
call
for
each
vote.
Additionally,
I'll
ask
the
committee
members
raise
their
hands
or
you
can
chime
in
to
speak,
and
I
also
I
can
also
call
upon
them.
B
B
I
have
a
motion.
Do
I
have
a
second
second?
Second,
any
discussion
now
I'll.
Take
you
to
a
vote
bill
newman,
hi,
paul,
bazinski,
hi,
spiderweb
aye,
andrew
gerard
hi,
and
I
from
me
as
well
minutes
have
been
passed.
B
B
These
rules
are
different
from
other
types
of
land
use
decisions
like
rezoning
cases
which
are
legislative
in
nature.
This
decisions
are
constrained
by
the
standards
in
the
city's
ordinance
and
the
facts
presented
at
the
hearing
the
board
hears
and
considers
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing
and
applies
the
standard
step
forth
in
state
law
in
the
city's
ordinance.
The
board
must
base
its
decision
upon
competent
material
and
substantial
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing.
If
you
will
be
speaking
as
a
witness,
please
focus
on
the
facts
and
standards,
not
personal
preferences
or
opinions.
B
Participation
is
limited.
This
meeting
this
meeting
is
open
to
the
public.
Everyone
is
welcome
to
watch
parties
have
rights
to
participate
fully.
Parties
may
present
evidence
call
witnesses
and
make
legal
arguments.
Witnesses
may
testify
as
to
facts
to
which
they
are
competent
to
testify
so
long
as
those
facts
relate
to
the
legal
standards.
In
addition,
lay
or
non-expert
witness
testimony
is
limited
to
facts,
not
opinions
for
certain
topics.
This
board
needs
to
hear
a
penis
opinion.
Testimony
excuse
me,
opinion
testimony
from
expert
witnesses.
B
These
topics
include
projections
about
impacts
on
property
values
and
projections
about
impact
on
traffic
safety,
for
variance
requests.
Four-Fifths
of
vote
of
the
board
is
required
to
grant
the
variance
for
all
other
hearings
and
matters,
including
the
adoption
of
the
minutes.
The
decision
will
be
made
by
some
of
the
majority
vote
of
the
board.
Witnesses
must
swear
or
form
their
testimony.
At
this
time
we
will
administer
the
ode
for
all
the
individuals
who
intend
to
provide
witness
testimony
if
you
would
unmute
your
microphone
for
a
second.
D
B
Do
I
do
I
do
all
right,
I'm
going
to
hand
this
over
to
mr
chris
collins
to
present
our
first
case.
E
I
can
take
the
first
one
chris
thanks
matt,
okay,
this
is
matt
card.
I'm
a
urban
planner
with
the
development
services
department
kind
of
on
behalf
of
ricky.
Today,
I'm
going
to
present
two
of
the
cases.
The
first
case
is
at
let's
see
here,
the
petitioner
suzanne
godsey,
also
with
site
work
studio
on
behalf
of
the
owner.
5
rock
place.
Llc
is
requesting
a
variance
to
the
sidewalk
standards
found
in
section
7,
11
8
b3
of
the
unified
development
ordinance.
E
A
F
The
public
input
link
was
missing
from
the
meeting
setup
we're
used
to
those
being
put
in
for
us
for
the
board
of
adjustment,
but
some
sometimes
something
was
missed.
It's
in
now.
I've
put
it
in
manually
for
us
and
I'm
hoping
that
the
page
is
showing
us
streaming
now,
because
everything
else
is
working.
It
was
just
that
missing
link
from
the
setup
it
can
anybody
go
to
the
live
page
and
see
if
it's,
I
might
be
able
to
do
it
through
an
incognito
page.
It
wants
to
open
up
the
admin
page.
A
E
Okay,
take
two
so
we're
looking
again
at
a
215
foot,
sidewalk,
basically
at
what
was
formerly
5
rock
cliff
place,
but
is
now
25
choctaw
street.
E
E
Boulders
and
a
lot
of
obstructions
along
the
street,
as
you
can
see
in
the
staff
report
in
the
exhibits
that
have
been
provided
to
the
board
of
adjustment
you'll,
see
pictures
photo
evidence
map
evidence
all
to
support
this
request.
We
also
have
the
petitioner
against
suzanne
godsey,
who
can
probably
speak
a
little
bit
about
what
is
going
on
on
the
ground
itself,
and
this
really
concludes
my
presentation.
Unless
you
have
any
questions.
D
Well,
good
afternoon,
everyone,
I'm
suzanne
godsey
with
site
work
studios,
and
I
apologize
for
having
to
come
back
to
you
and
ask
for
an
additional
40
linear
feat
of
sidewalk
variance
request.
When
we
came
to
the
board
in
june
of
2020,
there
was
a
lot
of
existing
vegetation
out
there.
It
was
summertime.
D
We
did
not
have
a
very
good
and
complete
survey,
so
we
were
working
off
of
some,
not
inaccurate
information,
but
not
as
accurate
as
it
needed
to
be
in
order
to
appropriately
ask
for
certain
linear
footage.
So
during
construction,
if
you've
ever
been
by
the
side
or
you
went
by
the
site,
when
you
were
taking
a
look
at
the
application,
you
know
the
site
is
now
it's
winter.
It's
denuded
there's
been
construction,
and
what
we
have
uncovered
is
that
for
an
additional
40
feet,
there
is
a
large
existing
tree.
That's
up
slope!
D
So
I
went
out
and
took
a
couple
of
additional
photos,
and
the
gentleman
in
the
picture
is
the
geotech
who
wrote
a
letter,
that's
also
in
the
application
packet
in
his
application.
He
stated
that
there
should
be
no
additional.
Thank
you
for
pulling
that
up.
If
you
go
to
conclusions,
oh
well,
either
one
yeah
so
there's
the
these
were
the
photos
that
were
originally
submitted
in
july
of
2020.
D
So,
as
you
can
see
lots
of
vegetation-
and
you
can
see
the
outcrop
and
the
reason
why
you
guys
granted
the
variants
in
the
first
place,
we've
got
a
lot
of
site
constraints
to
build
a
sidewalk,
essentially
on
one
side
of
the
street.
There
is
sidewalk
on
the
other
side
of
choctaw.
That
does
go
down
the
full
city
block.
D
So
this
was
our
original
request,
matt
and
that's
just
showing
what
it
would
take
to
install
a
sidewalk.
This
is
what
it
would
take
to
install
a
sidewalk
with
a
5
foot
planting
strip,
so
that
made
it
the
walls
even
worse.
D
So
that
was
the
original
application.
This
application,
this
exhibit
six
photo
if
you'll
hold
that
for
just
a
second
matt.
These
are
pictures
that
were
taken
in
january
and,
like
I
was
mentioning
without
vegetation,
you
can
really
see
some
of
the
site
constraints
and
you
see
that
large
tree,
that's
at
the
top
of
the
slope,
that's
being
kind
of
held
in
place
it.
It's
kind
of
a
question
of
is
the
tree
holding
the
slope
in
place,
or
is
the
slope
holding
the
tree
in
place?
D
It's
kind
of
one
of
those
I
think
they're
working
together
right
now
to
hold
all
of
that
into
place.
So
this
last
little
portion
between
where
you
see
the
brand
new
poured
concrete
and
that
flag
in
the
distance
is
the
additional
amount
of
variance
that's
being
requested
that
yeah.
If
you
can
see
that
right
there,
so
the
geotech
was
out
there
at
the
time
he
was
taking
a
look
and
making
some
calculations
of
the
existing
slope.
D
How
steep
it
was
the
quality
of
the
slope
and
based
off
of
that,
he
basically
stated
that
you
know
there
should
be
no
disturbance,
no
more
disturbance
on
this
slope
if
possible.
So
with
that,
I
open
it
up
to
any
questions
that
you
guys
may
have
of
me
again.
I
wish
we
had
asked
for
more
to
begin
with,
but
we
thought
we
were
requesting
a
fair
amount
and
what
was
right
and
and
not
being
over,
egregious
in
our
request,
and
so
that's
why
we're
back.
B
Okay,
questions
for
miss
vatsi.
D
The
variance
was
granted
to
waive
the
sidewalk
requirement
for
175
linear
feet
along
choctaw
street,
so
we
could
go
back
matt.
Do
you
want
to
go
yeah?
We
can
look
at
that,
drawing
matt
either
one
there.
We
go
okay,
so
the
sidewalk
that
we
were
requesting
to
be
eliminated
goes
from
the
west
property
boundary.
So
that's
page
left.
D
All
the
way
to
to
above
the
building
and
to
where
you
saw
the
sidewalk
installed
so
where
I've
got
this
purple
solid
hatched
area,
that's
our
additional
request
is
through
there.
We
had
originally
thought
we
could
bring
the
sidewalk
all
the
way
to
the
end
of
that
purple
area.
However,
we're
now
knowing
that
we
cannot.
B
B
Any
other
further
questions
for
ms
godsey.
F
B
Okay,
I'm
gonna
close
public
comments.
C
F
It's
so
weird,
because
I
can
hear
them
I
can
hear
them
through
the
conference
bridge.
That's
going
on
my
phone
right
now.
I've
never
had
this
glitch
happen.
This
is
new
for
me.
F
F
F
No,
we
cannot,
did
you
try
hanging
up
and
calling
back
into
the
conference.
F
F
I
guess
I
could
try
to
like
relay
what
they
want
to
say.
Would
that
be
an
option.
A
I
haven't
haley,
I'm
wondering
if
that's
an
option
to
you,
would
we
be
able
to
hear
them
if
they
were
like
on
a
split?
What
are
they
on?
Is
that
a
speaker
phone
option
that
you
have
going
with
them
right
now.
F
G
H
F
G
Haley,
can
you
hear
her
okay.
F
G
H
H
H
We
have
a
location
for
like
a
drop
off
at
373
biltmore,
which
connects
to
choctaw
it's
on
the
corner,
and
so
what
our
question
simply
was
is:
would
the
expansion
of
the
walkway
would
there
be
an
anticipated
impact
to
the
parking
spaces
at
our
373
biltmore
property.
H
It's
right
on
the
corner
with
choctaw,
so
they're
right
there
connected
to
each
other.
You
turn
on
choctaw,
and
it
just
so
happens
that
our
address
is
slightly
different,
so
the
the
streets
connect.
So
my
question
was
was
just
simply:
would
the
expansion
of
the
sidewalk
and
come
near
our
area
which
could
potentially
pose
a
parking
impact
or
if
it
was
not.
D
So
the
sidewalk
that's
installed
now
is
is
that's
adjacent
to
your
piece
of
property
is
as
far
as
that
sidewalk
is
gonna
go
and
the
variance
request
is
actually
for
sidewalk.
That's
moving
away
from
your
property,
so.
H
B
Okay,
none
all
right
public
comment
is
now
closed,
I'll,
open
it
up
to
the
board
for
discussion
and
or
a
motion.
I
D
Correct,
okay,
that's
correct:
had
we
have
had
had
a
little
bit
more
accurate
survey,
information
and
potentially,
if
we
had
been
applying
in
the
winter
time
and
we're
able
to
see
sort
of
how
that
tree
is
being
held
in
place
and
and
these
small
little
stone
walls
that
were
in
there,
we
would
have
added
that
40
feet
to
our
original
request,
but
we
didn't
have
the
luxury
of
that
information
at
the
time.
So
now
that
construction
has
happened-
and
you
know
winter
has
come
and
you
know
there's
been
grading
activity.
It's
unearthed.
B
All
right
seek
a
motion.
B
Okay,
any
any
discussions
or
thoughts
or
further
discussion,
none,
okay,
I'll,
take
it
to
a
vote
bill
newman,
paul,
wisinski,
hi
carter,
webb
hi
and
andrew
gerard
hi,
and
it's
eye
for
me
motion
passes
motion.
Is
I
mean
bearish
is
granted.
B
All
right
next
on
our
agenda
item
is.
C
B
Is
andrew
smith,
requesting
variance
for
side
set
back
requirements
in
section
784,
f5
setback
standards.
A
A
Excellent
okay,
as
described
this
is
a
set
of
excuse
me,
a
variance
request
from
the
side
setback
at
21,
oakwood
street
and
specifically
within
this
rs8
zoning
district.
The
udl
requires
a
six
foot
side
setback
in
this
case
the
applicant's
requesting
a
1.5
foot
side
setback.
So
that's
a
4.5
foot,
variance
or
75
reduction
in
that
requirement,
and
they
are
doing
so
to
construct
an
accessory
structure
in
the
rear
yard
of
an
existing
single-family
home
lot.
A
A
And
the
approved
site
plan,
as
you
can
see
here,
there
was
a
an
accessory
building
approved,
along
with
the
construction
of
a
pool
to
the
rear
of
the
existing
home.
A
When
this
was
approved
just
a
little
history
on
this
one,
the
original
site
plan
did
not
represent
the
sidewalks
and
generally
staff
would
have
asked
for
that
to
be
on
the
sidewalks.
The
setbacks
staff
would
have
asked
for
that
information
to
be
included,
but
both
our
zoning
review
and
building
review
staff
within
the
development
services
department
did
not
get
into
that
information.
So
therefore,
this
was
approved
with
a
less
than
compliance
setback.
A
And
they
did
get
through
the
process
with
the
construction
completely
built
before
anyone
caught
that
and
proceeded
with
a
stop
work
order.
One
thing
I'll
note
about
the
neighborhood:
this
is
the
same
aerial
photo.
We
saw
before
again
subject:
site
highlighted
what's
been
circled
here
are
all
the
accessory
structures
in
rear
yards
in
this
neighborhood.
A
Now
no
measurement
has
been
taken
on
these.
These
are
all
in
private
property
that
wasn't
really
an
undertaking
we
can
do,
but
a
visual
scan
shows
you.
These
are
all
either
on
or
very
close
to
their
property
lines
with
the
neighborhood.
So
there
is
somewhat
of
a
precedent
set
here
of
accessory
structures
that
are
likely
encroaching
into
that
side.
Setback.
A
It's
the
same
thing:
it
was
a
little
easier
to
see
sort
of
the
aerial,
but
that's
the
same
concept
being
demonstrated
here:
here's
a
photograph
taken
showing
the
the
newly
built
structure
on
your
left.
I
believe
property
line
and
another
accessory
structure
on
the
joining
property.
So
that's
where
normally
to
be
compliant.
We
would
have
six
feet
off
of
that
red
line.
A
And
that
is
the
end
of
the
that's
the
last
slide
I
have
for
you.
There
were
some
building
issues
initially
too
building
code
issues
with
the
structure
being
that
close
to
the
property
line,
but
that's
been
resolved.
We've
spoken
with
our
building
safety
staff.
Everything's
been
done
that
needed
to
be
done
to
allow
that
wall
to
remain
that
close
to
the
property
line
from
a
building
code
perspective.
C
A
There
are
you
know
this
is
my
understanding
of
how
the
situation
played
out
there's
several
different
inspections
that
have
to
occur
throughout
the
construction
or
the
inspection
and
permitting
process
of
a
structure
like
this.
I
believe
the
first
inspection
that
happened
was
a
footing
inspection.
There
were
some
issues
with
that
floating
inspection
and
I'll
say
that
floating
inspection
is
usually
that
first
check
to
make
sure
you're
meeting
that
setback.
A
A
B
So
chris,
what
would
happen
if
this
variance
is
not
approved.
A
So
if
the
variants
were
not
approved,
the
structure
would
be
required
to
meet
the
six-foot
setback
pack,
the
structure
is
in
place,
has
passed
all
its
building
inspections.
J
Thank
you,
everybody
here
and
I
apologize
for
any
inconvenience.
I
did
not
know.
We
were
going
to
end
up
here
from
the
beginning
and
thank
you
chris
as
well.
I
know
you're
helping
out
with
ricky
stuff
who
I've
been
talking
to
from
the
beginning
and
appreciate
you
presenting
my
stuff
there
yeah,
I'm
not
really
sure,
either
how
we
got
this
far
along
and
everything
I
do
know.
J
2020
was
a
mess
and
you
know
it
was
a
mess
for
me
as
well,
I'm
in
the
restaurant
industry
and
it
has
not
been
a
fun
couple
of
years.
I
probably
wouldn't
have
undergone
this
project.
J
If
I
knew
what
everything
was
happening,
I
ended
up
taking
a
large
equity
line
loan
and
you
know
to
do
this
project
and
we
ended
up
getting
kind
of
hung
up
and
I'm
glad
I
had
the
line
because
being
in
the
industry
through
that
period
of
time,
I
needed
it
for
other
things
too.
At
this
point,
I
need
to
finish
it
off,
so
I
can
refinance.
J
With
rate
hikes
coming
up,
then
I've
got
myself
in
another
bind,
but
it's
been
a
couple
years
full
of
binds.
So
it's
okay,
but
the
what
we
ended
up
doing
with
the
footers
was
there
were.
We
were
having
trouble
with
water
at
the
beginning,
and
we
had
people
out
for
footage
quite
a
few
times,
and
it
took
a
long
period
of
time
to
get
the
footers
to
be
approved
as
well,
and
we
had
to
do
some
serious
work.
We
put
a
ton
of
gravel
back.
J
There
dug
out
some
huge
spaces
to
make
the
footers
work
where
they
are
as
well,
which
would
be
another
problem
for
for
moving
a
building,
although
I'm
really
not
sure
how
that
would
work
at
all,
but
regardless
of
it
we
did.
We
did
figure
out
how
to
get
everything
dry
and
we
also
solved
a
couple
of
our
neighbors
drainage
issues
along
the
way
too.
So
it's
it's
much
drier
back
there
and
doing
quite
a
bit
better.
J
My
direct
neighbors,
who
have
a
very
large
outbuilding
right
on
the
property
line
as
well,
are
the
ones
one
of
the
reasons
we
put
the
building.
There
was
because
it
makes
sense
in
these
long
shotgun
lots
that
the
outbuildings
are
on
the
sides.
J
Would
have
gone
through
this
process
in
2020
and
I've
been
more
aware
and
I
apologize,
but
with
these
long
you
know
narrow
lots,
it
just
makes
sense
to
have
outbuild.
That's
why
they
all
are
on
the
edges
of
the
lots,
so
they
have
a
large
cinderblock
building
in
all
honesty,
it's
not
the
most
attractive
building
in
the
world
and
putting
a
nicer
newer
building
out.
There
felt
really
good
for
my
situation.
J
I
just
wish
I'd
done
this
first,
so
my
apologies
again
the
I
looking
through
this,
though
also
I
thought
the
application
was
for
five
feet
with
a
one.
C
J
Setback,
I
didn't
know
it
got
changed
to
one
and
a
half,
I'm
not
sure
if
it
will
make
a
difference,
I'm
just
not
sure
exactly
where
the
property
line
is
so
one
and
a
half
may
be
fine,
but
originally
it
was
one
I
just
didn't.
I
didn't
know
that
change.
So
that's
a
question
I
have
I
guess,
but
I
do
think
there
is
a
precedent
set
here.
You
know
and
if
anything
I
think
I've
really
helped
the
neighborhood.
J
This
was
an
old
rundown
house
for
the
jungle
in
the
backyard
and
it's
it's
a
whole
different
whole
different
thing
in
my
neighborhood
now
my
neighbors
love
me.
I
love
them.
This
neighborhood
is
great.
I
have
three
little
boys
that
are
in
this
backyard
all
the
time
and
it
would
not
have
been
applicable.
J
You
know
two
and
a
half
three
years
ago
at
all,
so
you
know
I
I
think,
I'm
I
think,
I'm
a
good
part
of
the
neighborhood,
I'm
a
good
neighbor,
I'm
a
businessman
in
the
area-
and
I
appreciate
you
guys-
you
know
hearing
me
out
and
you
know
won't
happen
again
for
me
either.
I
promise
I've
learned
my
lesson
we'll
do
this
in
the
front
side
of
things.
B
Okay,
do
we
have
any
questions
for
mr
andrew
spence.
B
Okay,
none
do
we
have
any
colors.
C
L
You
could
yeah,
I
don't
think,
there's
anything
anything
prohibiting
you
from
doing
that.
The
the
the
meeting
was
noticed
with
the
one
and
a
half
foot
in
there,
but
I
think
that
we've
been
discussing
this
issue
publicly
and
if
anybody
has
any
comment
on
the
revised
motion,
they
can
be
heard
now.
But
I
don't
think,
there's
anything
prohibiting
you
from
revising
it
to
one
foot.
C
C
K
C
If
there
isn't
any
other
discussion,
I'll
move
to
approve
the
request
for
the
variance
sub
subject
to
changing
it
from
one
and
a
half
feet
to
one
foot.
C
B
Okay,
what
I
see
is
right
now
the
applicant
is
asking
for
1.5
foot
on
the
request,
which
is
a
75
reduction
and
we're
saying
we're
giving
him
one
foot
side
request
which
is
roughly
83.
Is
that
correct
paul.
C
C
I
B
Okay,
okay,
all
right,
no
further
discussions,
then
I'm
gonna
take
it
to
a
vote
bill
newman,
hi,
paul,
wisinski,
hi
carter,
webb,
hi,
andrew
guard,
all
right
and
I
for
me
motion-
carries
variance
is
granted.
Thank
you.
B
B
E
All
right,
I
can
take
this
one
again.
This
is
matt
card.
I'm
an
urban
planner
with
the
development
services
department,
the
petitioner
jeremy
goldstein
on
behalf
of
the
owner,
rad
vue
asheville
llc,
is
requesting
a
variance
to
the
sign
standards
in
section
7-8-29,
4.3,
f,
and
that's
for
specifically
a
crown
sign
and
we'll
talk
about
that
here.
In
a
second
of
the
u-d-o,
the
petitioner
is
seeking
a
modification
to
the
design
standard,
requiring
a
crown
sign
to
be
painted
directly
onto
the
building
wall,
to
allow
flush
mounting
of
painted
metal
lettering.
E
The
new
building
will
be
located
at
20
artful
way
and
is
identified
in
your
packet
of
information.
Let's
go
through
the
exhibits
and
packet
information
here.
E
So,
as
you
can
see
here
in
exhibit
one
that's
been
provided
by
the
petitioner.
We've
got
the
proposed
sign,
they're
using
on
the
facade,
they've
got
a
ribbed
metal
finish
to
it,
which
they
cannot
paint
a
crown
sign
on
it.
So
they're
proposing
this
type
of
sign
instead,
which
projects
out
of
the
wall
just
a
little
bit
about
two
and
a
half
inches,
is
what
it
looks
like
so
exhibit
three.
Looking
at
the
the
metal
panel
that
they're
using
for
the
project
here
exhibit
four
is
a
aerial
of
the
project
itself.
E
And
within
staff
report
and
staffs
exhibits,
you'll
find
the
let's
see
the
requirement
and
what
a
crown
sign
actually
is
here
is
the
requirement-
and
this
is
specific,
with
the
rad
form
based
code
and
t,
they
have
specific
signs.
Allowing
crown
signs
and
essentially
what
a
crown
sign
is,
is
just
a
painted,
a
large
painted
sign
at
the
top
of
the
building
and
it's
supposed
to
be
painted
and
not
project,
and
it
specifically
says
in
there.
E
I
think
that
pretty
much
concludes
my
presentation.
Unless
there's
any
questions
about
this.
B
So
I
have
a
question
so
when
this
went
through,
all
the
the
approval
processes
you
know
was
was
the
crown
sign
taken
into
account
for
when
that
was
being,
you
know,
designed.
E
Yeah,
usually
we
don't-
I
mean
with
a
conditional.
I
think
this
was
actually
a
level
two,
if
I
remember
correctly
so,
usually
we
don't
with
a
level
two
project.
We
do
not
look
at
the
details
of
signage
and
things
like
that.
They'll
come
back
later
and
apply
once
they've
already
gone
through
the
process,
approval
process
and
typically
constructed
the
building,
they'll
come
back
to
city
staff
and
and
submit
a
sign
permit
for
the
sign
specifically
and
so
in
a
level
two
project.
We
don't
look
at
that
ahead
of
time
or
with
that
development
review.
H
E
K
Hi,
my
name
is
laura
hudson.
I
am
the
architect
representing
the
project
for
jeremy
goldstein
and
this
one
caught
us
a
little
bit
by
surprise.
It's
very
straightforward.
K
The
rad
form
code
is
relatively
new,
so
as
we
go
through
the
process
and
you
use
a
different
sign
standard
for
rad
form
code
than
you
do
for
the
rest
of
the
udo,
and
so
as
we
started
to
look
through
it,
we
realized
that
they
specifically
single
out
crown
signs
as
the
sign
that
goes
force.
You
have
to
be
a
four-story
building
and
it's
the
area
kind
of
at
the
top
of
the
parapet,
and
it's
it's
a
little
unusual
in
that
it's
very
prescriptive
that
has
to
be
painted.
K
Unfortunately,
we
built
our
building
out
of
a
corrugated
metal
panel,
which
is
allowed
appropriate
and
encouraged
in
as
a
facade
material
in
the
rad
district,
and
at
this
point
painting
this
panel,
it's
it's.
The
intent
is
to
provide
a
flat
sign.
That
is
part
of
the
architecture.
K
K
It's
we
I
mean
we
want
to
design
according
to
the
intent
of
the
crown
sign
ordinance,
but
we
really
feel
like
this
is
a
better
solution.
It
allows
us
to
keep
a
simple,
clean,
much
smaller
crown
sign
than
if
we
had
to
paint
directly
onto
this
surface,
so
that
is
kind
of
the
idea
behind
what
we're
asking
for.
C
Okay
yeah,
this
is
paul.
I
have
one
question:
are
you
are
you
proposing
to
to
add
what
is
seven
individual
letters
or
are
are?
Are
you
putting
seven
individual
letters
on
a
background
and
attaching
that
whole.
K
No
we'd
like
to
just
attach
seven
individual
letters
and
that's
how
we
would
go
about
if
we
were
to
paint
the
sign,
that's
exactly
what
we
would
do
as
well
just
paint
the
word
rad
view
on
the
top
of
the
parapet,
but
because
our
surface
is
corrugated,
we
it's
in
its
heart.
We
can't
a
painter,
can't
get
up
there
and
paint
something
like
this
up
there.
Okay,.
B
Okay,
close
public
comment,
open
it
up
to
the
board,
I'm
seeking
emotion
and
or
comments.
B
Second,
do
we
have
any
discussions
on
the
motion?
B
No
okay,
I'll,
take
it
to
a
vote
bill
newman,
hi,
paul
wozinski,
hi
carter,
webb
hi,
mr
gerard
hi,
and
and
I
from
pratik
vodka
motion
is
granted
a
variance
is
approved.
G
B
Think
that
does
that's
all
in
our
agenda.
If
there
are
no
other
objections,
we
will
adjourn.