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everybody
a
heads
up,
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member
from
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communications
and
public
engagement,
cape
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city
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C
We'll
now
begin
with
the
atlantic
knowledge
welcoming
members
staff
and
the
public
good
afternoon,
I'm
chair
of
the
human
relations
commission,
tanya
rodriguez,
and
I
would
like
to
welcome
you
to
the
august
19
2021
human
relations
commission.
Virtual
meeting
we
are
coming
to
you
live
from
the
cherokee
homelands
where
the
eastern
band
of
cherokee
indians
remain
a
sovereign
nation.
To
this
day,
we
will
now
call
our
meeting
to
order.
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C
All
committee
members
and
staff
are
participating
virtually.
We
appreciate
your
patience
as
we
work
through
committee
meetings.
A
bit
differently.
We
are
streaming
live
on
our
virtual
engagement
hub,
which
is
accessible
through
the
virtual
engagement
hub
link
on
the
front
page
of
the
city
website,
and
also
linked
on
the
committee
page.
C
We
also
have
an
option
for
the
public
to
listen
by
phone
by
dialing,
eight,
five,
five,
nine,
two,
five,
two:
eight
zero
one.
Once
again,
that
number
is
eight
five,
five,
nine
two
five,
two
eight
zero
one
and
by
entering
meeting
code
nine,
seven,
two
three
for
those
of
you
who
plan
to
speak
during
our
live
public
comment.
Today,
you
will
need
to
hit
star
three
to
be
put
in
the
speaker.
Queue
for
those
of
you
out
there
with
us
today.
Welcome
welcome
ashby
roll
call.
C
I
will
now
go
through
and
introduce
all
the
committee
members
and
staff
who
are
participating
virtually
for
our
committee
members.
Our
commission
members,
please
make
sure
to
mute
your
microphone
if
you
are
not
speaking
when
you
have
a
question
or
would
like
to
speak,
click
raise
hand
and
when
recognized
by
me,
mute
your
microphone.
Please
remember
to
mute
your
phone
after
you
are
done
speaking
as.
A
C
C
A
Miles
aaron
miles,
I
believe.
F
C
C
C
C
Let's
see,
would
tiffany?
Would
you
like
to
be
our
timekeeper
today.
G
C
And
so
we'll
you
know
I'll
call
out
the
amount
of
time
pretty
much.
It's
each
speaker
gets
three
minutes
states
their
name,
three
minutes,
and
then
we
move
forward
awesome.
Thank
you,
commissioner
devil,
though
all
right
approval
for
minutes.
Five
minutes.
Do
we
have
minutes
and
did
everybody
review
them?
D
C
Review
of
today's
agenda
no
motion
needed.
Did
everybody
take
a
look
at
the
agenda
today.
A
C
Yep
do
do
we
need
to
have
a
roll
call
vote
to
approve
the
agenda
brad
just
checking
in
and
making
sure.
C
B
Oh,
I
just
want
to
say
good
evening
to
everyone.
I
know
a
few
of
you
through
the
community
susie
I
forgot.
We
had
met
some
time
back.
We
were
in
class
together.
I
think
so
it'll
be
a
pleasure
to
work
with
you
and
michelle
when
you
find
those
minutes,
if
you
could
send
those
to
me
as
your
liaison
I'll
make
sure
that
those
get
posted
and
will
happen
for
the
next
meeting.
So
welcome
thanks
everybody
for
the
great
welcome.
C
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
While
we're
introducing
people,
I
know
she's
already
had
a
chance
to
say
hello,
but
I
also
want
to
specifically
point
out
that
assistant
city
attorney
aaron
miles
who
is
with
us
today,
will
be
the
primary
attorney
representing
and
supporting
the
city's
office
of
equity
inclusion.
H
Although
this
department
will
always
have
the
full
support
of
myself
in
the
office
in
its
entirety,
we
felt
it
was
important
to
have
a
very
specific
attorney
dealing
with
their
day-to-day
focus,
wanted
to
introduce
her
specifically
to
this
group
as
she
will
become
a
fixture
in
future
human
relations
committee
meetings.
So
aaron
has
been
with
us
for
a
little
over
a
year
and
has
truly
been
an
exceptional
asset
to
our
office
in
the
organization.
C
Thank
you,
brad.
That's
absolutely
wonderful!
We're
looking
forward
to
it.
Bringing
all
of
the
powerful
figures
together
in
a
room
full
of
greatness
is
an
amazing
thing.
Commissioner,
neues
had
their
hand
raised.
D
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
remind
folks
that
I
stepped
down
from
secretary
a
couple
meetings
ago
and
have
only
taken
minutes
twice.
So
just
wanted
to
name
that.
C
Reminder,
commissioner,
we
appreciate
your
service
in
keeping
up
with
minutes
as
best
as
we
can.
This
is
a
volunteer
position
to
sit
in
this
commission,
and
so
it
does
ask
for
quite
a
commitment
and
we
thank
you
for
your
service.
C
Moving
on
to
next
item
of
business,
working
group
updates
I'm
going
to
spend
about
15
minutes
in
this
agenda
item,
I'm
going
to
ask
for
you
to
be
brief,
with
your
working
group
updates
and
so
first
up
we
have
commissioner
chandler
regarding
health
data,
racial
disparity
and
covet.
C
I
Thank
you,
sir
woman.
I
sent
right
on
the
the
heels
of
commissioner
doublelow's
email
with
her
updated
data.
I
Some
prepared
research,
some
data
on
health
disparities,
with
a
full
commission
to
review
it's
a
it's
a
lot
of
information,
and
it's
a
lot
of
information
that
we
primarily
know
already
that
our
the
health
disparities
are
are
racially
divided,
even
the
the
vaccination
rates
and
the
outcomes
of
our
community
members
of
color.
I
If
I
can
get
my
notes
to
pull
up,
I'd
be
happy
to
share
that
with
you.
It's
taking
its
sweet
time
as
an
overview.
The
documents
that
were
included
were
the
vaccination
rates,
including
those
the
impacts
of
of
covid
on
on
the
different
communities
within
our
asheville
citizens,
and
then
a
third
one
was
was
health
disparity
data
in
general.
I
J
Yeah
I
apologize.
My
camera
is
still
not
working,
but
I
was
wondering
if
the
the
group
that
susie's
group
that
was
just
speaking
was
connected
with
the
bipa
asheville
buncombe
institute
for
parity
achievement
and
their
collection
of
data.
I
I'm
not
sure
I
was
I
was
using
my
spouse
as
a
public
health
professional
who
works
for
mayheck,
and
I
believe
that
she
deals
with
a
pippa
some,
but
I
can
certainly
look
at
that
resource.
Thank
you
for
naming
it.
J
Yeah,
I
think
abipas
would
be
probably
the
first
place
to
go
if
you're
looking
at
health
and
health
parity
in
the
community,
they
do
really
good
work.
Just
a
suggestion.
Thank.
I
C
Brenner
susie:
are
you
complete
with
this
agenda
item
with
your
working
group,
update.
I
Yes,
and
so
is
my
cat.
Yes,
ma'am.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Moving
on
to
our
next.
C
G
Thank
you,
chief
woman
at
this
time,
so
well
good.
Everyone
welcome
aaron
and
congratulations
glad
you're
aboard
brenda.
G
Just
to
give
you
an
update
of
united
way,
I
couldn't
get
my
hands
on
the
end-of-year
data
report
that
they
usually
put
out
and
again.
A
lot
of
the
information
that
I
am
about
to
share
does
reflect
the
year
prior
to
covet
so
because
the
school
year
hadn't
been
in
full
effect
for
the
year
of
1920
and
2021,
there
isn't
any
real
core
data,
so
most
of
it
is
based
from
between
2015
and
2018
of
what
I'm
about
to
share.
G
I
also
shared
three
three
attachments
in
an
email
with
just
what
I'm
gonna
cover
real
brief
about
the
data.
So
if
there's
any
questions
that
you
may
not
have
right
now
just
feel
free
to
just
jump
back
on
that
email
and
then
you
can
shoot
me
any
questions
or
next
steps,
but
just
pertaining
to
our
last
conversation
regarding
updated
information
of
student
data
and
discipline
rates.
G
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
first
that
black
students
in
the
whole
asheville
city
schools
district,
make
up
make
up
20.7
of
the
school
population
versus
their
white
peers
and
counterparts
which
make
up
62.5.
G
The
thing
that
has
been
an
issue
in
alarming
is
the
disparity
piece,
so
the
disparity
piece
is
looking
at
school
suspensions,
which
black
students
that
make
up
that
20
percent
overall
make
up
59.5
in
disciplinary
rates,
so
just
with
school
suspensions,
meaning
they're
pulled
out
of
class
for
x
amount
of
days
between
5
and
10
days.
That
number
is
at
59.5,
whereas
looking
at
their
white
counterparts,
that
number
is
at
23.
G
So
looking
at
out
of
school
suspension,
so
now,
students-
that's
they're,
not
even
in
the
building
black
children,
make
up
57.5
of
that
20,
while
their
white
counterparts
make
up
26
of
the
out-of-school
suspension
rates.
G
What's
what's
interesting
to
me
that
I
gathered
in
research
is
the
fact
that
0
of
black
children
were
expelled
versus
all
the
children
that
were
expelled
based
on
the
data
report
were
white.
G
G
So
just
looking
at
that-
and
this
is
just
my
interpretation-
I'll-
definitely
open
it
up
for
any
more
conversation
and
some
next
steps,
but
just
looking
at
the
disparities
of
of
children,
of
color
being
pulled
out
of
the
classroom
not
receiving
instructional
time,
yet
they
only
make
up
30
of
those.
That's
really
going
forward
to
be.
You
know
where
the
law
has
to
get
involved.
G
G
They
were
pulled
out
for
various
reasons,
and
so
now
the
data
looking
at
so
43
of
the
decrease
in
discipline
rates
in
black
children
was
due
to
the
fact
that
there
is
no
school
for
anyone
for
the
2021
school
year.
G
Now
we're
moving
into
the
21
22
school
year,
where
all
students
are
now
being
placed
into
the
buildings.
So
I
just
wanted
to
share
just
the
disparity
pieces.
There's
a
lot
of
information
that
you
can
read
upon
your
leisure.
If
you
want
to
just
expound
more
just
on
this
subject,
these
numbers
are
specific
to
asheville
city
schools,
district.
G
C
I
didn't
see
who
raised
their
hand.
First,
I'm
gonna
go
with
commissioner
young
councilwoman
rooney.
K
Well,
yes,
my
question
is,
since
we
know
what's
the
problem
is
what
can
we
do,
but
we
can
implement
getting
getting
some
guys,
the
community
involved
in
these
schools,
where
they
can
be
used
as
a
peer
support
for
the
kids.
K
Instead
of
calling
these
polices
putting
these
discipline
acts
on
these
kids
ruckus,
that's
gonna
be
following
them
for
the
rest
of
their
life
and
I
think
that's
the
target,
and
this
is
a
basic,
the
pipeline
to
prison
all
this
stuff
that
has
been
singling
out
towards
our
kids,
whether
it's
black
or
white.
We
need
something
need
to
be
done.
K
We
can
have.
We
can
put
the
community
in
the
schools
as
peer
supports
for
that
child.
That
child
is
having
a
problem.
You
see
somebody,
they
know
it
it'll
be
a
better
way
to
de-escalate
the
problem.
Well,
we
can
talk
to
the
kid
and
counsel
them
a
little
bit
instead
of
scaring
our
kids
with
these
police
officers.
These
are,
I
mean
right
now,
everybody
looking
at
the
police
as
terrorists,
and
I
mean
it's
not
changing
until
that
change.
G
Well
carefully,
remember
that
due
to
covet
and
just
cdc
people
that
even
so
we're
gonna
have
to
look
at
the
community
for
support
out
of
school,
because
new
buildings
in
themselves,
through
the
department
north
carolina
department
of
public
instruction,
is
restricting
community
support
levels
in
the
buildings
for
this
school
year.
C
Council
councilwoman
ronnie.
L
Apologies,
so
I
would
be
so
thankful
to
have
that
report
from
the
working
group
to
include
in
the
minutes
that
I
take
and
their
rough
draft
minutes,
but
to
include
so
when
I
send
the
report
to
council
from
this
meeting.
They
could
be
included.
B
Brenda,
if
we
could
everyone
that
had
a
report,
I
think
you
emailed
it
to
the
committee,
but
you
may
not
have
emailed
it
to
your
liaison
and
city
staff.
So
if
you'll
just
send
that
to
me
tomorrow,
I'll
compile
it
because
your
reports
will
go
in
your
meeting
documents
online,
so
everybody
can
have
those
and
then,
when
we
I'll
report
back
out
to
everybody,
how
about
that?
C
Commissioner
doubleo,
would
you
be
interested
in
forming
a
working
group
to
dive
deeper
into
these
disparities?
C
I
hear
something
in
here
that
that
can
be
really
amazing,
that
a
working
group
can
put
that
a
working
group
can
get
to
the
bottom
of
and
and
I'm
hearing
yeah
and
I'm
hearing
that
people
are
starting
to
lean
more
with
pulling
police
out
of
schools
and
doing
a
more
community
based
program.
Like
commissioner
young
was
talking
about,
and
I
feel
that
by
a
working
group
bringing
in
the
amount
of
data
that's
needed
to
support
a
thing
like
that
that
we
could
probably
get
a
lot
of.
C
Break
through
some
barriers
of
resistance
to
putting
that
into
action
and
then
bringing
that
to
city
council,
I
think
that
that
is
something
that
we
can
have
a
lot
of
influence
in
doing
so,
if
you're
interested
in
doing
that,
it's
rock
and
roll.
G
I
would
definitely
love
to
do
that,
and
also
looking
at
whoever
is
interested
in
joining
is
low
stakes.
So
I'm
not
going
to
be
looking
for
so
much
of
your
time,
but
I
think
also
as
a
human
relations
commission
joining
the
movement.
That's
taking
place
in
asheville,
so
united
way
has
a
monthly
group
called
united
for
youth.
We
can
just
be
a
presence
in
some
of
these
spaces
and
some
of
the
silos
that
you
know
where
the
youth,
just
that
whole
concern
is
coming
up.
G
So
if
anyone
is
interested
just
get
with
our
chairwoman
and
she'll
get
with
me.
C
Thank
you.
Next
up
is
daniel
young
bringing
an
update
with
from
the
ymi
cultural
center.
Commissioner,
young
the
floor
is
yours,.
K
The
update
we
got,
then
we
got
a
five
hundred
thousand
dollar
along
with
a
grant
fund
for
the
upkeep
of
the
wyoming
and
right
now
we're
doing
we
we're
also
offering
community
outreach
through
the
wyoming
and
that's
dealing
with
the
trauma.
If
you
need
trauma,
we
teach
we
helping
with
job
training
through
transit,
we're
working
on
a
plan
to
help
the
the
black
men
in
the
community
get
the
colonoscopy
screening
for
free,
that's
needed
for
us
since
we're
the
high
risk.
K
Let's
see
what
else
we
got
doom
bait
is
coming
up.
Hopefully
we
don't
get
shut
down
by
this
culvert
situation
and
right
now
I
think
the
ymi
is
really
doing
great
things
for
our
community.
I
mean
for
the
last
what
10
20
years,
the
wine
my
has
been
kind
of
quiet
and
right
now
I
think
we
we
all
know
we're
on
a
road.
We
could
use
a
lot
of
help
from
the
community
a
lot
of
more
people.
Speaking
on
our
behalf,
so
we
can
do
more.
K
Right
now
we're
just
trying
to
speak
out
for
our
community
to
make
sure
we're
doing
what
is
right
and
whatever
we
ain't
doing
right,
we
can
get
some
input
on
that
so
from
the
community
to
what
we
can
do
to
make
it
right.
I
know
we
can't
save
everything
I
stop
what's
going
on,
but
together
we
can.
We
can
try
to
fix
everything
and.
K
Often
phlebotomy
classes
they
graduate
next
week.
We
start,
then
we
got
eight
eight
women,
that's
doing
that
we're
doing
the
the
home
ownership.
This
is
offered
at
the
wyoming
as
well.
E
And
I
think
that's
about
it.
You
know
I
do
want
to
address
something,
though,
if.
K
I
can
I
talked
to
the
community
in
shallow
about
getting
some
cameras
put
up
for
the
for
the
safety
of
their
community
and
they
said
they
reached
out
to
the
city
for
some
help
and
it
was,
they
was
told
noah,
whatever
the
problem
was,
and
the
police
has
been
really
not
giving
them
no
kind
of
support,
no
protection,
and
I
I
don't
know
if
whatever
we
can
do
to
help
shallow
get
cameras
on
their
block,
so
they
can
be
protected.
I
mean
we
got
had
a
little
child.
K
E
K
We
are
the
human
relations.
We
need
to
voice
our
opinion
and
support
them.
If
they,
I
think
shallow,
has
has
enough
funds
where
they
can
get
it
up,
but
then
they
got
to
get
duke
mb
haynes
to
come
and
put
it
up
the
cameras
up
for
they
for
their
safety.
They
also
had
a
complaint
about
getting
speed,
bumps
put
out
there
and
I
think
the
dlt
denied
them
that
so
I
mean
what
can
we
do
to
assist
them?
My
man,
I
think,
thinking
something
neat,
so
I
need
to
be
done.
G
If,
if
I
could
jump
in
real
quick
commissioner
young,
I
just
took
notes
of
what
just
as
my
role
tonight
as
the
time
keeper.
I
didn't
want
us
to
jump
the
gun
on
the
agenda.
But
I
wanted
to
make
sure
I
captured
what
you
mentioned
so
that
we
can
continue
to
move
forward
on
the
agenda,
but
that
we
can
still
revisit
what
you
said
so
that
we
could
have
a
solid
plan
to
support
shallow.
G
But
I
think
that's
a
wonderful
piece
of
information
for
us
to
know.
C
Yeah,
thank
you,
commissioner
debola.
That's.
That
is
definitely
really
important.
Information
and
I'd
encourage
commissioner
young
to
make
a
list
for
us
so
that
we
can
bring
to
deborah
and
then
maybe
we
can
figure
out
what
are
the
most
pressing
issues
we
need
to
address,
and
then
we
can
form
a
working
group
around
that
and
and
and
and
do
what
we
can
do
to
bring
these
things
to
city
council
to
be
heard
and
addressed.
C
B
K
Well,
I
spoke
to
them.
They
said
they
were
like
the
cameras
not
just
around
the
center,
but
like
different
areas
of
the
of
their
community.
Okay,.
B
And
then
so
let
me
just
give
you
a
call,
so
I
can
follow
up
with
you.
I
know
that
apd
community
engagement
attends
their
neighborhood
meetings
every
month.
They
are
connected
with
those
folks.
So
if
they're
did
you
talk
with
some
of
the
association
members
or
just
members
in
the
community.
K
I
talked
to
some
of
the
members
there
right
now
they're
working
on
a
petition
to
get
everybody
in
the
community.
Okay,
with
wanting
the
cameras
up,
okay-
and
I
asked
him
to
do
that
first
and
then
I'm
gonna
submit
it
to
them
to
us
and
then
maybe
we
can
move
forward.
Okay,.
C
Young,
are
you
complete
with
your
point
of
business
today.
C
Yeah,
send
me
an
email
on
whatever
we
can
do
and
then
you
know
we'll
put
it
together,
so
we
can
make
it
happen.
Okay,
you
know,
go
for
it
all
right.
Moving
on
to
the
next
item
of
business
staff
updates,
community
concerns
and
complaints,
did
you
have
anything,
has
anything
come
in?
It
seemed
as
though
that
there
were
no
emails
regarding
this
meeting.
C
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Yes,
the
rfps
were
due
august
6..
We
have
a
team
of
seven
people
that
reviewed
them
by
august
13th
and
we
met
tuesday
with
the
city
manager.
We
have
chosen
a
company.
I
would
prefer
not
to
give
the
name
until
we
finalize
the
contract,
but
we
should
have
that
finalized
by
next
week
and
we'll
give
you
information
so
we're
excited.
We
had
a
unanimous
support.
The
company
we
chose
has
done
local
work.
B
This
company
was
a
subcontractor
for
the
disparity
study
has
worked
on
minority
business.
Stuff
knows
the
community
pretty
well
lived
in
the
area
for
a
number
of
years,
so
very
excited
to
have
them
on
board,
so
just
just
not
to
jinx
anything.
We're
gonna
work
on
getting
that
contract
finished,
and
we
will
report
back
to
you
as
soon
as
we
have
something-
and
there
will
be
an
update
to
at
council
about
this
as
well.
G
Thank
you
for
the
update.
A
question
came
through
hrca
a
few
months
ago
about
the
group
and
just
to
see
if
anyone
like
anyone
can
represent
from
hrc
with
the
group
in
the
process-
and
I
don't
know
it
was
just
a
lot
of
different
things
happen
in
christ.
So
just
wanted
to
see.
If
that
can
be
a
possibility.
B
I
would
ask
you
to
apply.
We
should
be
having
a
process.
Once
we
get
the
process
manager
on
board,
we
will
be
putting
together
a
process.
I
would
ask
you
to
apply
so
whatever
our
process
is,
we
will
let
you
know
the
community
know
it's
half
and
half
neighborhoods
and
then
the
other
half
will
represent
the
five
areas
that
were
listed
in
rp,
so
we'll
make
sure
that
you
know
about
that.
So
if
you
want
to
choose
a
couple
of
people
that
might
be
interested
in
serving,
that
would
be
great.
C
B
Would
suggest
that
whoever
serves
on
that?
I
will
be
your
liaison,
so
I'll
be
glad
to
give
you
updates
and
then
whoever
is
your
who
who
is
chosen
to
serve
on
that.
They
can
also
give
an
update
as
well,
and
the
meetings
will
all
be
public.
Just
like
yours
are
now
so
you
can
call
in
live.
You
can
give
live
comments.
You
can
send
emails.
All
of
that
will
be
the
same
thing.
Yeah.
B
B
C
That
is
that
possible
for
you
to
put
that
together
for
our
next
meeting
to
invite
the
process
manager
to
be
here.
G
J
B
That's
a
great
question:
we
will
be
working
with
all
groups
in
our
community,
so
as
you
as
the
hrca
identify
groups
that
maybe
I
might
not
know,
racial
justice
is
at
the
top
black
asheville
demands
all
the
groups
that
do
any
kind
of
racial
equity
work
are
invited,
but
we're
collaborating
with
everyone.
A
C
Moving
on
to
the
next
item
of
business,
unfinished
business
discussing
potential
retreat
dates,
let's
see
we
can
probably
do
something.
I
believe
we
might
have
a
few
new
commission
members
joining
our
commission
over
the
next
few
weeks.
C
So
maybe
it
might
be
a
interesting
opportunity
to
get
everybody
on
board,
maybe
by
sometime
before
halloween
somewhere
in
october,
maybe
mid
october.
If
that's
okay,.
C
Looks
like
it
might
have
to
be
live,
and
hopefully
it
everybody
is
vaccinated.
So
if
everybody's
vaccinated,
we
might,
we
might
be
able
to
do
it,
live,
but
probably
might
have
to
do
it
virtual
as
well.
So
looking
to
maybe
a
ballpark
around
october,
brenda.
B
I
just
want
some
clarity,
so
you're
having
an
additional
meeting
beyond
your
meeting
a
retreat
beyond
your
meeting
and
right
now
we
are
not
meeting
in
person
so
that
that
can't
happen.
It
has
to
be
virtual.
So
I
would
suggest
that
if
you
want
to
do
that,
keep
your
regular
meeting
date
but
start
earlier.
C
Well,
the
retreat
we've
had
one
treat
before
one
retreat
before
and
it
was
a
all
day
event
that
everybody
went
to
with
different
exercises
to
team
build,
and
so
I
don't
know
if
we
could
do
that
where
it
would
be
before
the
meeting.
Or
it
would
be
another
time
that
we
would
all
take
to
get
together
online
and
maybe
do
a
team
build
a
la
building,
bridges
style
where
we
all
have
a
main
group,
and
then
we
can
do
go
into
groups.
B
C
Right
so
an
online
or
a
retreat
for
us
would
look
like
being
able
to
take
these
future
agenda
items
and
addressing
the
future
agenda
items
in
a
way
that
we
can.
C
What
is
the
most
pressing
issues?
What
do
we
hear
from
the
community
that
needs
to
be
addressed
and
establishing
a
definition
of
what
equity
is?
What
diversity
is?
What
inclusion
is
building
ourselves
as
a
commission
as
a
team
so
that
we
can
bring
the
strength
of
a
team
and
the
strength
of
our
influence
to
city
council
to
initiate
change,
positive
change
in
the
city,
commissioner,
weinberger.
J
I
think
that's
been
long
in
the
talking,
but
I
don't
know
that
we
have
actually
put
together
a
firmed
up
document
that
we've
all
contributed
to.
So
one
of
the
deliverables
that
I
see
that
we
really
need
on
this
commission
is
a
is
a
solid
work
plan.
A
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Just
as
a
point
of
order,
it
certainly
sounds
like
this
particular
proposed
retreat
might
be
applicable
under
the
open
meetings
law
as
well.
So
just
be
aware
that
we
would
probably
have
to
make
this
a
public
meeting,
since
you
will
be
touching
on
potential
business
that
the
commission
will
be
undertaking.
C
Thank
you
brad.
So
might
it
be
he's
able
to
do
something
like
that
before
the
holidays,
so
that
we
can
bring
in
awareness
for
the
upcoming
new
year,
so
maybe
sometime
in
october?
Would
that
be
a
sufficient
amount
of
time
to
plan
something
like
that
out.
H
Right,
I
I
I
think
I
may
defer
to
brenda
on
some
of
this,
because
there
is
a
a
big
staff
component,
especially
with
these
virtual
meetings.
There's
quite
a
few
staff
members,
even
ones
you're
not
seeing
right
now,
who
are
potentially
necessary
to
manage
these
online
public
viewings.
But
we
can
certainly
look
into
that.
We
also
have
to
obviously
deal
with
schedules
and
there
are
time
frames
involved
with
scheduling
a
special
meeting.
L
Thank
you.
So
this
is
a
common
request
that
I'm
making
of
all
the
boards
and
commissions
to
which
I'm
the
liaison
and
it's
an
honor
to
be
the
liaison
to
the
human
relations
commission
that
during
retreat
planning
and
work
plan
setting.
I
would
certainly
be
grateful
to
hear
your
professional
and
lived
experiences
around
our
council
retreat
goals
and
appreciate
consideration
for
the
living
asheville
plan.
C
If
you
feel
something
towards,
I
don't
want
to
say,
resonate
because
we're
not
empty
people
without
we
don't
resonate,
we
vibrate.
C
So
if
you
connect
with
any
of
these
items,
please
let
me
know
send
me
an
email
and
then
we
can
move
forward
with
the
working
group
on
them:
a
training
on
process
of
allocation
of
minority
city
contracts,
so
bringing
in
the
person
who
does
the
training
for
minority
city
contracts
into
speak
at
a
commission
meeting
to
give
us
an
idea
of
what
they
do,
how
they
do
it
and
then
possibly
giving
feedback
on
how
to
make
that
better.
C
Working
together
with
that
person,
training
in
city
mandated
equity
and
inclusion
process,
what
goes
into
equity
and
inclusion
process
for
the
city
is
equity
being
used
as
equity
involving
barrier
assessments.
What
is
being
done
to
bring
in
a
level
of
equity
to
the
city?
That's
not
equity,
wrapped
in
in
diversity
and
and
making
sure
that
those
are
being
walked
in
an
integral
way.
Collaboration
with
city
to
create
a
complaint
form
for
residents
to
the
city.
C
Is
there
a
complaint
form
for
residents
to
the
city
and
is
the
complaint
form
based
in
a
equitable
process,
with
barriers
removed
so
that
people
can
get
their
complaints
to
the
city
in
a
way
that
they'll
be
heard
accountability
pipeline
for
complaints,
process
for
city
of
asheville
for
city
employees
and
resident
complaints?
C
C
Anytime,
anytime,
you
want
to
jump
in
also
lgbtq
discrimination,
protections
and
complaints
process.
C
C
Do
we
have
a
creation
of
volunteer
mentorship
program
to
support
returning
citizens?
I
believe
we
have
a
couple
of
commission
members
that
are
really
interested
in
creating
a
volunteer
mentorship
program
to
support
returning
citizens
and
what
does
that?
Look
like
health
equity,
we're
on
it
a
statewide
hrc
meeting
in
asheville,
possibly
next
quarter,
I'm
working
on
bringing
that
here
to
asheville,
maybe
even
inviting
public
safety
into
our
meetings.
What
does
that
look
like?
C
I
heard
brenda
talk
about
earlier
apd
community
engagement,
maybe
bringing
in
an
apd
community
engagement
representative
to
speak
about
what
apd
is
doing
in
the
community
and
how
we,
as
the
hrca,
can
provide
a
support
for
the
residents
of
asheville
and
also
apd
people
are,
residents
of
asheville
are
dying
and
police
officers
are
dying,
and
so
how
do
we
bridge
the
gap
between
the
community
and
policing?
C
And
one
moment
I've
got
just
two
more
fair
and
equitable
housing
see
if
we
can
get
somebody
on
here
from
housing
that
can
help
us
bring
in
fair
and
equitable
housing
practices
and
also
environmental
climate
concerns,
as
we
brought
in
a
couple
of
meetings
ago
to
protect
the
houseless
community
during
the
event
of
inclement
weather
from
inhumane,
encampment
removal
like
that
happened
on
february
1st.
G
I
just
had
a
question
pertaining
to
going
back
to
talking
about
complaints,
so
just
for
clarity's
sake,
originally
we
weren't
dealing
or
handling
complaints,
and
so,
as
a
commission,
what?
What
does
that
look
like
for
us
when
you
mention
complaints
from
community,
especially
complaints
around
racism
and
whiteness
in
the
workplace?.
C
Who
I'm
not
entirely
sure
who
had
their
hand
up?
Because
I
clicked
and
was
that
you
or
brenda
brad.
G
Did
you
guys
hear
me
okay?
So
yes,
just
going
back
to
how
are
we
really
going
to
handle
complaints
coming
from
community
when
you
mentioned
it,
I'm
just
wondering:
are
we
just
bringing
them
in
to
share
their
concerns
experiences
and
then
connect
them
to
someone,
or
are
we
really
going
to
walk
them
through
a
process?
That's
going
to
alleviate
what
they're
actually
going
through
when
it
comes
to
reporting
on
racism
and
just
biases
in
the
workplace,.
L
That
question,
I
think,
that's
a
great
question,
but
we
would
also
need
to
look
at
an
example
of
our
non-discrimination
ordinance
and
what
the
process
looks
like
for
when
someone
brings
forward
a
complaint.
L
I
am
not
clear
on
that
and
I
wouldn't
pretend
to
be
able
to
make
that
up
on
the
spot.
So
I
would
seek
assistance
from
the
city
attorney's
office
and
from
our
new
officer
of
equity.
Inclusion
to
have
a
better
understanding
of
the
process
looks
like,
which
is
totally
appropriate
for
this
group,
if
you're
the
ones
that
are
handling
the
complaints.
C
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
both
because
this
is
a
really
important
thing
that
we
can
bring
influence
to
and
break
those
barriers
down
to
create
an
environment
that
does
provide
the
space
for
people
to
be
heard
and
things
to
get
handled
in
a
in
in
the
proper
way.
L
And
there
is,
there
is
a
process
in
place
where
a
group
of
staff
members
will
review
the
complaint.
But
I
think
that
this
group
needs
a
presentation
on
it
to
have
a
better
understanding.
H
Yeah,
thank
you
councilwoman
roney,
madam
chair.
I
I
think
that
we
are
very
lucky
and
fortunate
to
have
one
of
the
primary
drafters
of
this
joining
us
in
miss
aaron
miles.
She
was
actually
instrumental
in
that
process
and
is
probably
the
city
expert
right
now
on
our
new
non-discrimination
ordinance,
and
I
would
happily
ask
that
she
and
a
future
agenda
provide
some
specific
information.
F
I
would
be
happy
to
put
a
together
a
presentation
for
this
group,
and
I'm
sure
me
and
brenner
can
talk
about
it,
since
it's
a
joint
with
her
office
and
legal
in
order
to
make
sure
that
we
are
enforcing
the
ordinance
appropriately.
C
Thank
you
very
much
erin,
commissioner
venable.
M
Hey
good
afternoon,
everyone
evening,
I've
been
listening
very
tentatively
throughout
this
whole
process
here
and
one
of
the
things
that
is
troubling
me
as
far
as
a
citizen
of
the
city
and
as
a
native
of
the
city
and
someone
who's
probably
about
to
go
to
is
a
news
article
that
came
out,
and
this
ties
into
everything
we're
talking
about
here
about
how
we
have
one
of
the
largest
black
exoduses
in
the
south
right
now.
M
As
far
as
our
per
capita
black
people
we're
not
gaining
black
residents,
we're
losing
them,
and
it's
a
reason
for
that.
Folks,
it's
because
we
can't
survive.
Here
I
mean
everybody.
We
can
dance
around
elephants
in
the
room,
but
elephants
don't
move
as
fast
as
people,
so
we're
dancing
and
we
need
to
correlate-
and
this
is
great
work
everyone's
doing.
M
But
I
want
folks
to
pay
attention
to
what
the
bottom
line
is,
because
we
have
a
huge
exodus
of
minorities
leaving
this
city
and
it's
because
they
can't
afford
rent
jobs,
transportation
and
basic
discrimination,
and
we
have
a
board.
That
is,
seems
very
interested
in
being
able
to
curb
these
ailments,
but
yeah,
I'm
listening,
but
that
to
me
that
that's
the
bottom
line
I
just
want
to
just
put
that
out
there
that
black
people
are
leaving
here
in
droves,
and
it's
not
a
good
look
for
our
city.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you,
commissioner,
venable,
that
I
I
read
that
article
and
it's
striking
the
what
the
census
has
revealed
for
this
area,
and
I
would
I'd
really
be.
I
I
think
that
you
have
a
wonderful
and
unique
perspective
and
I'd
love
for
you
to
form
a
working
group
to
get
down
to
the
bottom
of
that
and
to
form
a.
C
Options
and
tools
for
us
to
bring
in
that
we
can
recommend
to
city
council
and
maybe
even
bring
in
the
major
barriers
that
are
causing
these
things.
I
think
that
that's
something
commissioner
venable
you!
You
are
uniquely
positioned
to
do
and
I
would
love
to
see
you
put
together
a
working
group
to
get
down
to
the
bottom
of
what
you
just
shared.
M
I
would
be
interested
in
doing
a
working
group,
but
I'm
going
to
tell
you
one
of
my
one
of
the
reasons
why
I'm
very
hesitant
to
do
things
like
that
is
because
you're
in
a
certain
demographic
and
you're
already
in
a
position
where
you
you
have
to
be
self-made
here,
because
when
you
do
certain
things
and
you
have
the
color
and
the
anatomy
that
I
have
you
get
castigated
into
certain
parts
of
society
to
where
you
get
black
ball
ostracized,
and
you
have
to
be
on
kind
of
witty
about
how
you
navigate
things,
and
I
would
not
want
to
put
anybody
else
in
the
situation
that
I
myself
or
others,
even
my
parents.
M
I
watched
them
and
it's
ridiculous
like
how
people,
when
you
do
certain
types
of
work,
it's
not
safe
and
when
then,
once
that
work
gets
done
it
did
it
didn't
change
the
dynamic.
Here
I
mean,
I
hope,
people
kind
of
understand
what
I'm
saying
you
know.
I
can
only
speak
from
my
own
experience
and
I've
been
an
astronaut,
my
entire
life.
M
The
only
times
I've
ever
left
here
was
to
go
to
college,
and
I
left
here
for
one
period
of
time
for
eight
years
to
go,
live
with
my
husband
and
another
city
which
was
derm,
and
I
learned
a
lot
there
and
then,
when
I
came
back
home
and
I
saw
what
was
happening
here,
it
was
frightening
to
me
and
especially
during
covet,
I
have
watched
disparities,
go
completely
off
the
the
radar
and
it's
getting
worse
from
school
children
to
housing.
To
all
of
these
determinants,
which
are
health
determinants.
M
These
are
things
that
the
cdc
sees
as
diseases
within
communities
and
it's
very
frightening,
and
I
don't
think-
and
thank
you,
chairwoman
rodriguez,
I
it,
I
think
it's
more
than
a
working
group
like
I
said,
I'd,
be
interested
in
doing
a
working
group,
but
I
think
this
is
something
that
it's
going
to
take
a
whole
board
to
be
deliberate
about,
instead
of
a
group.
Does
that
make
sense
to
anyone?
Maybe
I
don't
know.
C
And
good
points
and
social
justice
work
is
dangerous.
I
mean
people
put
targets
on
their
backs
just
for
speaking
out
against
these
issues
and
you're
right.
C
You
know
and
sometimes-
and
I
think
we
had
a
really
good
example
of
a
a
working
group
of
one
today
when
everybody
brought
in
their
working
group
reports
and
there
were
working
groups
of
one,
everybody
was
a
working
group
of
one
that
brought
in
their
working
group
reports,
and
if
this
is
something
that
you
can
feel
that
you
can
ask
some
people
do
some
research
at
least
start
to
break
down
the
barriers
so
that
it
isn't
unsafe
anymore.
I
think
that
that
might
be
a
really
good
thing.
C
I
I
hesitate
to
bring
this
into
a
whole
group
where
we
discuss
at
every
meeting,
because
then
then,
when
we
bring
it
to
the
meeting
without
just
doing
anything
in
between
meetings,
then
that
that
kind
of
creates
a
process.
That
is
a
start
stop,
and
so
I
I
think
that
it's
important
to
bring
in
the
a
team
that
can
help
you
launch
this
into
action
so
that
you
don't
feel
so
alone,
so
that
you
don't
feel
unsafe
and
that
you
feel
supported
by
us
as
a
commission.
C
M
You
know
this
is
actual.
It
is
what
it
is.
You
know,
I
think
I
I
kind
of
need
to
see,
especially
when
people
have
you
know
within
this
board
have
felt
some
type
of
way
about
me.
I
need
to
kind
of
like
and
that's
why
I'm
being
real,
quiet
and
kind
of
trying
to
get
a
feel
around
for
folks,
just
like
people
had
to
give
me
a
chance,
I'm
trying
to
give
people
a
chance
to
see
if
this
is
something
that
is
tangible
for
this
board.
C
Next
point:
business
is
our
community
announcements?
Are
there
any
community
announcements
that
we.
C
We
can
bring
towards
the
greater
collective
of
asheville
and
those
listening
and
watching
this
meeting.
D
Yeah
as
far
as
environmental
impacts
of
this
hurricane
fred,
recently
sunrise
had
put
out
some
studies
on
the
weather
here
in
the
past
several
years,
so
I'm
just
going
to
read
off
some
stuff
that
they
came
up
with
and
it
and
it
relates
to
development,
and
it
relates
to-
and
I
think,
relates
to
affordable
housing
as
well,
which
is
kind
of
what
delores
was
speaking
to
you
know.
D
Minorities
are
getting
pushed
out
and
I
think
that
development
and
affordable
housing
has
a
lot
to
do
with
it.
But
in
the
meantime,
these
weather
events
are
really
affecting.
Our
people
too.
In
2021
asheville
has
already
seen
a
30
increase
in
precipitation
over
2020
an
already
abnormally
wet
year,
meaning
that
floods
are
becoming
more
likely
extreme
weather,
isn't
the
only
cause
of
more
flooding,
undetectable
and
poor
infrastructure
is
also
to
blame
roads,
parking
lots,
metal,
roofs,
logging.
D
All
of
these
decrease
the
amount
of
water
that
can
be
absorbed,
which
allows
rain
and
pollutants
to
quickly
run
over
land
and
into
streams.
Warmer
weather
means
more
rain,
and
more
development
means
more
runoff,
and
this
is
really
bad
news
for
the
french
broad
river
and
then
there's
just
some
facts
about
the
french
broad.
The
period
between
2005
and
2021,
recorded
34
floods
compared
to
only
14
between
1988
and
2004.
D
So
that's
more
than
a
twofold
increase
in
frequency
and
this
week
fret
the
fred
flood
peaked
at
26
000.
I'm
not
sure
what
that
measurement
is
much
more
than
past
years,
but
among
the
top
highest
10
levels
in
the
last
30
years
so
yeah.
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
tie
together,
climate
justice
and
social
justice
and
racial
justice
in
that
way,
and
kind
of
figure
out
what
kind
of
working
groups
we
can
put
together
to
kind
of
feel
like
we
are
making
an
impact.
So
thank
you.
M
Can
I
just
add
something
to
that?
Please
yeah,
okay,
okay,
I'm
sorry!
I
just
wanted
to
add
with
what
commissioner
moya
said.
M
One
of
the
things
that
I
have
personally
witnessed
is
the
before
there
was
an
exodus
of
black
people
out
of
the
out
of
this
area
completely
as
far
as
people
leaving
western
north
carolina
to
other
places,
black
folks,
minorities
especially,
was
before
that
there
was
an
intentional
displacement
of
people
that
were
black
and
native
out
of
asheville
during
the
late
70s
early
80s,
all
the
80s
and
early
90s,
and
that's
when
we
started
seeing
redevelopment
here
in
the
city
take
place
was
in
the
90s.
M
We
started
seeing
black
people
being
pushed
into
the
county
to
where
they
did
not
have
transportation,
not
just
black
folks
either
it
was
people
poor
folks,
let's
just
keep
it
all
together,
so
they
took
and
pushed
poor
people
out
of
housing
out
of
the
city
limits,
and
now
these
are
the
same
people
who
are
in
that
newspaper
article
that
have
been
forced
out
of
north
carolina.
All
together
to
south
carolina,
because
the
majority
of
these
people
do
live
in
upstate
south
carolina.
M
Some
of
these
folks
even
live
in
upstate
north
upstate,
south
carolina
and
work
in
north
carolina,
many
of
them
being
healthcare
personnel,
and
the
only
reason
why
I
know
this
is
because
I
work
in
the
healthcare
industry
and
for
folks,
like
us,
but
it's
cheaper
to
go,
buy
a
house
down
the
street
in
south
carolina
and
get
north
carolina's
pay
rates,
because
south
carolina
doesn't
pay
health
care
workers.
The
way
that
north
carolina
does
so.
M
I've
seen
people
and
I
live
in
one
of
the
most,
the
second
largest
neighborhood
in
asheville.
They
are
selling
their
homes
and
running
for
the
hills.
I've
never
seen
anything
like,
and
it's
very
scary,
because
when
we
see
people
afterwards
get
away
from
here
and
everybody's
flipping,
their
houses
like
turnkeys.
M
C
I'll
be
right,
and
I'm
just
going
to
want
to
share
this
real
quick.
Both
commissioner
venable
and
commissioner
neues
bring
up
something
really
really
powerful,
that
I
think
that
we
can
create
a
standing
subcommittee
that
focuses
specifically
on
justice.
So,
whatever
issues
that
come
in,
we
have
a
standing
subcommittee
that
focuses
specifically
on
justice,
whether
that
be
climate,
justice,
social
justice,
whatever
anything
that
has
anything
to
do
with
justice.
C
Our
subcommittee
on
justice
addresses
that
takes
that
in
us
a
recommendation
to
the
whole
group,
and
in
that
way
we
can
have
this
space
and
use
it
efficiently.
C
So
whatever
that
sub
committee
brings
in
finds
out
gets
to
the
bottom
of
we
can
put
onto
the
agenda
and
we
can
move
the
meeting
in
an
efficient
way,
while
also
making
sure
that
things
get,
but
things
happen.
People
are
heard
and
city
council
has
new
agenda
items
on
their
list,
and
I
will
personally
and
commission
councilwoman
ronnie,
and
I
spoke
earlier
that
so
that
I
will
personally
bring
these
items
to
city
council
to
make
sure
that
they
are
heard
and
so
that
we
can
bring
in
what
we
do
to
city
council.
C
In
a
way,
that's
efficient
and
and
make
sure
that
what
we
do
here
doesn't
kind
of
go
off
into
the
ethers,
and
we
wonder
what
happens
to
it.
So,
commissioner,
double
up,
maybe
we
could
work
that
out
in
our
retreat.
G
That
was
well
said
everyone
just
to
add
to
it.
I
just
want
to
remind
us
to
be
collaborative
and
remember
the
organizations
that's
been
doing
the
work
thus
far
and
that
we
want
to
collaborate
with
those
organizations
so
that
we
don't
have
burnout
on
ourselves
and
that
we're
really
maximizing
on
what's
happening
around
the
city,
but
I
definitely
love
to
be
a
part
of
that
conversation.
G
My
my
update
was
just
a
community
update
just
putting
a
call
out
there
for
any
volunteers
interested
in
and
supporting
and
helping
with
goombay.
G
N
N
N
We
see
this
on
a
local
scale,
with
refusal
to
ever
alter
the
status
quo,
despite
all
reason
and
logic,
pointing
towards
the
need
for
change
and
with
blatant
favoritism
and
special
privileges
given
to
developers
and
hoteliers.
I
thank
you
all
for
your
time.
I
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
as
effective
immediately
I'm
resigning
from
the
hrca.
G
I
love
your
passion
and
your
your
transparency.
You
will
be
missed
with
your
voice.
I
just
would
love
to
add,
too,
that
it
took
us
400
years
and
we're
still
not
there.
So
I
don't
think
four
years
with
the
hrca
is
going
to
get
us
any
closer,
but
you
will
be
missed.
C
Definitely
be
missed
yeah.
I
almost
quit,
commissioner,
commissioner.
Quite's
voice
in
here
is
really
powerful
and-
and
that
was
that
that
was
a
bang
right
there
and
I
don't
not
disagree
with
a
lot
of
what
they
shared,
and
you
know
if
there's
thing
that
that
needs
to
be
lit
a
fire
in
us,
whether
it's
a
place
of
passion,
compassion
and
and
getting
getting
things
done.
C
I
think
I
think
that
that
is
a
really
good
wake-up
call
for
all
of
us
to
to
put
whatever
it
is
aside
and
to
join
together
as
a
group
as
a
team
as
an
influential
advisory
commission
that
can
really
bring
solid
change
to
this
community
commission
available.
M
Yeah
that
kind
of
struck
me
too,
because
I'm
going
to
tell
you
the
truth.
I
was
about
to
do
the
same
thing
today
almost
and
then
I
said
to
myself.
If
I
do
that,
what
type
of
example
am
I
setting
for
like
folks
who
come
after
me,
you
know,
especially
because
I
am
a
black
person,
a
black
native
and
a
black
woman
here
and
yeah.
M
I've
been
on
this
board
since
this
incursion,
and
it's
been
a
lot
of
times,
especially
in
the
here
lately.
M
I
want
to
just
say
it
ain't
worth
it
not
to
my
personal
expense,
not
to
my
mental
health,
not
to
my
financial
standpoint,
not
to
anything,
and
I
I
would
like
to
I
sympathize
with
commissioner
court
and
I
would
like
to
ask
if
in
30
days,
do
you
think
if
we
as
a
board,
could
speak
with
you
individually,
that
it
would
change
how
you
felt
about
that,
because
what
I
do
notice
is-
and
I
think
this
board
is
made
of-
of
a
lot
of
people
with
broken
hearts.
M
A
lot
of
us
got
broken
hearts
here.
I
I'm
taking
the
words
from
one
of
our
black
elders
here
in
the
city.
90
year-old
black
man
named
matthew,
bakote
and
his
grandson
was
part
of
our
incursionary
board.
M
So
what
I
would
ask
miss
court
is:
is
there
someone
that
you
would
have
as
a
replacement
for
yourself,
because
you
know-
and
that's
why
I
was
talking
about
the
exodus
of
asheville
people
are
leaving
because
they
don't
feel
as
though
they
have
a
place
here.
You
know
what
I'm
saying,
and
this
is
just
another
way
of
showing
that
to
me,
and
so
I
would
like
to
see
if
maybe-
and
it
comes
from
a
lack
of
support-
and
it
does,
it
comes
from
a
lack
of
support.
It
comes
from
a
lack
of
empathy.
M
It
comes
from
a
lack
of
understanding.
It
comes
from
a
lack
of
everything
that
you
can
think
of
lack
is,
and
this
is
where
we
have
the
chance
to
bridge
your
gap,
because
if
we
can't
bridge
your
gap
within
our
board,
what
we
doing
out
here
in
the
city,
what
this
is
very
touching
to
me,
because
I
had
been
asked
before
to
step
down,
I
was
asked
to
not
be
here
anymore,
and
so,
when
you
have
people
that
feel
that
type
of
way,
commissioner.
M
M
Nobody,
our
board,
did
this.
They
said
members
that
were
speaking
on
behalf,
I
guess
of
other
folks
that
reached
out
to
me-
and
nobody
ever
you
know,
like
I
said-
sometimes
I'm
sometimes
the
last
one
to
find
out
about
stuff,
and
so
it
does
make.
You
feel
some
type
of
way
when
you
hear
all
this
chatter.
In
the
background,
so
I
would
like
to
say
that
one
of
the
things
that
we
need
to
do
as
a
board
is
probably
think
about
doing
a
in
person.
M
We
all
don't
come
from
the
same
backgrounds
and
we're
not
all
from
the
same
ilk
so
to
speak,
quote
unquote,
and
we
all
have
these
very
special
skills
that
we
bring
and
when
you
or
or
you
live
in
a
place
that
deliberately
tries
to
silence
people
we're
the
best
support
metrics
that
we
have.
M
So
we
need
to
be
more
supportive
of
the
people
that
we
see
here
on
the
screen,
and
sometimes
you
have
to
ignore
the
outside
noise
in
order
to
do
the
work
that
needs
to
be
done,
and
I'm
very
sorry
that
ms
corp
feels
the
way
she
feels.
I
feel
it
every
day.
I
know
a
lot
of
us
have
felt
it.
I've
heard
it
I've
seen
it.
I
know
it.
M
We
can
move
forward
from
this,
and
I
hope
that
miss
court
will
give
30
days
because
we
all
have
a
reason
to
be
here
and
if
the
city
council
didn't
think
that
we
had
a
purpose,
they
wouldn't
put
you
here.
So
your
purpose
is
very
intentional
and
needed
miss
court.
So
I
would
challenge
you
to
please
reconsider.
E
K
I
I
do
want
to
address
some.
I'm
sorry
that
the
young
woman
feel
like
that,
and
one
thing
about
this
community
work
that
we
doing
it's
gonna
be
a
bumpy
ride.
It
ain't
fun.
If
anybody
just
gonna
give
up,
we
can't
give
up
on
our
community,
no
matter
how
you
feel
or
whatever
this
is
supposed
to
be
bigger
than
us.
K
The
stuff
that
we
are
trying
to
do
is
for
our
kids
and
our
kids,
kids,
but
I
I
I
I
want
to
speak
about
something
about
the
justice
stuff
with
the
city,
the
courts,
helping
this
with
the
judge
getting
convicted
for
sexual
assault
in
a
boy,
a
young
man,
young
kid-
and
this
judge
was
a
white
judge.
K
K
They
showing
us
our
community
that
our
kids
do
not
matter,
because
this
judge
knew
what
he
was
doing.
He's
he's
a
person
that
supposed
to
have
high
standards
and
our
justice
system
just
failed
us
they'll
put
a
black
man
in
jail
just
being
accused
of
a
rape
or
whatever,
and
give
us
10
to
12
years
better.
Yet
they'll
give
us
10
years
for
for
20
what
for
we,
but
this
this
judge
get
two
years
for
touching
our
kids
and
the
child
got
thirty
five
hundred
dollars.
K
This
child
is
gonna,
be
emotionally
messed
up
for
the
rest
of
his
life.
For
what
this
judge
did,
and
this
judge
he's
benefiting
off
being
a
white
guy
having
a
white,
I
mean
his
opportunities,
he
I'm
pretty
sure
the
dna
is
still
his
friend
and
he
he
had.
He
had
to
be
registered
for
30
years
as
a
sex
offender,
but
look
what
he
did
to
this
child.
K
Why
didn't
ty
williams
or
why
is
not
the
community
an
outrage
about
this?
We're
just
trying
to
hide
this?
We
got
people
in
these
courtrooms
and
stuff,
allowing
this
stuff
to
go
on
todd
williams.
He's
need
to
go.
Everybody
in
that
courtroom
need
to
be
be
removed.
We
got
15
months
to
vote
on
everything.
That's
going
wrong
in
our
community,
that's
with
the
city
council
members.
If
they're
not
doing
their
job,
we
need
them
removed
the
judges
we
need
them
removed.
K
I
mean
this
right
here.
This
is
bad.
I
got
I
got
four
kids,
I
mean:
do
you
just
just
think
what
what
would
you
do
if
that
was
your
child
two
years?
Is
this
judd
gonna
be
free
to
do
this
again
because
he's
not
gonna
be
rehabilitated
in
prison.
He
should
be
in
there
for
the
rest
of
his
life
two
years
for
what
he
did
to
this
child,
and
this
time
williams
come
on.
We
got
rid
of
ron
moore.
K
K
What
can
we
do
about
this?
Because
this
is
bad?
This
I
mean
our
reality
is
messed
up,
we're
showing
our
kids
that
they
don't
matter
the
school
system's.
Failing
us
and
the
courtrooms
is
following
us
here
in
actually
we
got
a
two-way
justice,
one
for
the
white
folks
and
one
for
the
black
folks
and
one
for
the
black
folks
is
continuing
taking
us
men
from
our
kids
from
being
followers
being
a
voice
in
our
community.
Then
we
do
come
back
out,
guess
what
our
kids
are
grown.
K
They
don't
know
us,
we
don't
know
how
to
how
to
get
back
into
in
the
community
as
as
being
productive,
I
mean
brad
or
aaron.
What
what
can
y'all
say
about
this?
I
mean
y'all
up
down
the
courthouse.
Why
haven't
y'all
as
a
group
spoke
out
about
this?
K
K
I
mean
that
child
gonna
be
dealing
this
for
his
whole
life
rest,
his
life,
two
years
for
what
this
lord,
this
judge
did
come
on
the
preacher's,
not
speaking
about
it
out
about
this
stuff
and
this
stuff
back
when
martin
luther
king
and
malcolm
x
and
everybody
civil
rights
leaders
were
speaking
out
about
now.
Church
is
not
even
doing
it,
but
our
churches
are
steady,
getting
money-
I
guess
from
the
government
or
whatever
from
the
city,
to
be
hush
about
situations
like
this.
K
K
I'm
sorry!
That's!
That's
it!
Brad
y'all
speak
about
this.
I
mean,
what's
your
thoughts
about
this,
what
can
be
done.
H
Commissioner,
young,
I
I
want
to
say
I
appreciate
your
passion.
This
is
something
that
can
only
be
described
as
a
horrific
event.
We
absolutely
share
your
condemnation
of
the
actions
of
this
particular
individual.
H
Generally
speaking,
we
try
to
maintain
our
independence
from
commenting
on
the
actions
of
individual
judges
or
the
justice
system,
so
that
we
can
provide
an
unbiased
opinion
and
service
to
the
city
as
attorneys
for
this
particular
local
government,
but
certainly
am
always
happy
to
hear
members
of
public
such
as
yourself
who
have
strong
opinions
about
what's
going
on
and
can
share
that
publicly
in
this
forum.
C
Whoo
wow,
thank
you
all
for
showing
up
and
the
truth
that
has
been
revealed
tonight.
I
know
that
that
we
are
doing
our
best
with
what
we
were,
what
we
can
right
now
and,
like
commissioner
doubleo
shared
for
some,
it
was
400
years
for
another.
That's
here,
600.,
so
yeah
this
stuff
has
been
around
for
a
long
time.
C
You
know
some
people's
indigeneity
started
in
the
1600s
and
some
people's
indigeneity
started.
You
know
5
000
years
ago,
which
is
really
important
to
to
to
bring
in
you
know
10
000
years
ago.
C
So
what
I'd
like
to
leave
with
us
and
the
community
tonight
is,
is
a
commitment
from
the
hrca
that
we
will
do
the
best
that
we
can
with
what
we
got
being
an
advisory
commission,
a
volunteer
board
in
service
to
the
community
of
asheville
to
make
sure
that
the
community
is
asheville
is
heard,
honored
witnessed
and
we
will
join
together
to
make
sure
that
things
get
and
and
in
the
most
in
the
possible
way
that
we
can
that
we
can
make
things
happen.
C
Removing
what
is
preventing
these
things
from
getting
done
and
we
got
a
little
look
into
the
that
are
invested
in
it,
not
only
in
this
commission
and
outside
of
this
commission
and
things
not
getting
done
and
so
and
and
and
bring
awareness
to
that
too,
because
that
is
a
barrier
in
and
of
itself,
and
so
once
we
get
through
that
and
it'll
take
some
time,
and
so
that's
something
that
is
a
journey
for
all
of
us
to
do.
It
is
time
at
seven
o'clock.
C
Thank
you
very
much
for
being
here.
Thank
you,
brenda.
Thank
you,
brad.
Thank
you.
Erin
welcome.
Welcome,
welcome!
C
C
So
moved
I
get
a
second
daniel
young
offers.
A
second
roll
call
vote,
susie
chandler!
Oh,
do
we
do
a
roll
call
vote
for
that
or
do
we
just
adjourn.
H
H
C
Thank
you
very
much
all
right.
Thank
you,
asheville
for
tuning
in
and
we'll
see
you
next
month
have
a
good
night
and
treat
each
other
good
and
be
well.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.