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B
C
We're
good
morning,
everyone
welcome
to
this
strange
morning
meeting
a
remote
special
meeting
on
february
5th.
There
will
be
no
public
comment
taken
at
this
meeting.
As
always,
information
can
be
submitted
in
a
written
form
and
we
will
begin
with
roll
call.
C
A
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
The
this
item
the
commission
heard
on
their
regular
meeting
on
the
on
wednesday
this
last
wednesday
february
3rd.
At
that
time
the
hearing
was
recessed
and
formally
closed,
24
hours
later
so
sometime
thursday
evening.
So
this
is
the
point
now
where
the
commission
can
just
deliberate
ask
any
clarifying
questions
or
go
ahead
and
make
a
motion
and
move
forward
with
the
vote.
So
I'm
here
to
answer
any
questions.
Janice
ashley,
our
city
attorney
also
assisted
with
this.
C
You
have
a
motion
in
a
second
we'll
conduct,
a
vote.
Miss
levi.
B
F
C
Next
item
on
unfinished
business
is
consideration
of
a
proposed
zoning
text.
Amendment
chapter
7
of
the
unified
development
ordinance
amending
articles;
five,
eight,
nine
and
seventeen
in
order
to
adopt
new
standards,
regulating
hotels,
planner
and
coordinate
or
excuse
me
planner
coordinating
reviews
are
stacy
merton
and
shannon
tuck.
A
Thank
you
so
same
this.
This
item
was
the
public
hearing
was
on
february
3rd.
Actually,
the
public
hearing
started
back
in
september.
You
all
may
recall
that,
and
there
have
been
a
couple
of
intermittent
discussions
and
then
concluded
thursday
evening
when
the
24
hour
period
expired
so
again,
opportunity
to
ask
clarifying
questions.
Deliberate
amongst
the
commissioners
and
staff
are
standing
by.
If
there
are
any
questions.
G
I
can
I
can
go
ahead
and
answer
that
we
certainly
heard
the
comments
and
we
incorporated.
We
made
some
changes
to
the
design
review
process
based
on
those
comments,
but,
as
those
commissions
did
not
vote
to
agree
with
the
design
reprocess,
I
can't
say
that
we're
totally
in
agreement
with
them.
I
think
todd
pointed
out
last
time
that
the
goals
that
we
started
out
with
for
this
project
to
in
compliance
to
keep
the
process
in
compliance
with
living,
asheville,
comprehensive
plan
and
the
uli
report.
There
was
some
conflict
there.
G
E
So
well,
todd
stacier
todd.
So
essentially
it's
going
forward
the
way
what
we
saw
it
on
wednesday.
E
F
G
No
did
you
know
you,
the
joint
design
review
committee
would
do
all
the
design
review.
The
staff
would
present
the
project
to
both
of
those
commissions.
Initially
without
the
developer
having
to
be
at
those
meetings,
I
mean
they
could
be
there.
Obviously
if
they
wanted,
but
and-
and
we
would
take
comment
from
those
commissions
and
that
comment
wouldn't
could
include
technical
comments
and
design
comments.
Anything
that
was
technical
technical
would
be.
A
And
I
would
add
to
that,
like
any
non-technical
comments
that
might
have
more
to
do
with
say,
like
economic
impacts
or
other
kinds
of
concerns
that
would
be
just
reflected
in
the
body
of
a
staff
report.
Every
staff
report
has
a
section
that
discusses
like
if
it
were
to
go
on
to
council.
It
would
discuss
like
what
was
discussed
at
these
different
commissions
or
different
reviewing
bodies,
and
we
would
be
able
to
put
some
you
know
if
there
was
concern.
We
could
say
the
river
commission
expressed
concern
regarding
the
following.
F
F
Comment
as
they
do
now,
yes,
okay
and-
and
you
know-
and
I
just
want
to
say-
I
do
appreciate
all
the
comments
that
that
we
did
receive
and-
and
I
certainly
appreciate
the
work
that
both
of
those
design
review
you
know
boards
have
done
for
those
two
areas.
This,
I
would
say
you
know
this
is
kind
of
one
of
those
where
I
am
definitely
torn
between.
Should
it
be
design
review.
Should
those
two
design
review
boards
be
the
final
one
or
should
there
be
a
joint
one?
F
And
you
know
at
some
point
I
know
kind
of
design
review
in
general
for
asheville
has
come
up
before,
and
certainly
with
one
of
our
past
commission
members,
laura
hudson,
you
know,
was
certainly
an
advocate
for
it.
It
does
seem
like.
Maybe
this
is
the
one
of
the
first
step
towards
a
design
review
commission
for
all
projects
in
asheville,
so
while
it
it
may
feel
like
these
two
commissions
right
now,
downtown
and
aarc
are
kind
of
having
some
of
their
responsibility
pulled
away.
E
D
F
And
I
certainly
would
like
to
to
piggyback
on
what
carl
just
said
too.
I
think
staff's
done
a
great
job.
I
mean
I
mentioned
it
wednesday
night.
I
think
the
benefits
table
is
wonderful.
I
really
hope
the
public
kind
of
dives
in
I
had
a
couple
of
conversations
with
people
in
the
past
couple
days
and
a
few
kind
of
had
known
about
the
benefits
table,
but
hadn't
really
looked
and
I
was
like
you
really
need
to
look
at
this.
F
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
good
that
has
that
is
in
this
ordinance
that
I
really
do.
I
really
hope
that
public
benefits
table
is
the
blueprint
for
projects
every
large
project
in
asheville,
so
yeah.
F
B
Yeah
I
wanted
to
ask
about:
is
this
table
gonna
be
used
for
council?
If
and
when
something
does
in
fact
have
to
go
to
council.
B
A
Kim,
can
you
restate
your
question
correct?
Okay,
so
I
would
say
it's
it's
a
baseline.
A
If,
if
a
project
goes
to
council,
it's
a
conditional
zoning
and
they
could
one
reason
you
might
go
to
con
to
a
council
for
conditional
zoning
is
you're
unable
to
meet
one
of
the
development
requirements,
and
this
public
benefits
table
is
one
of
those
development
requirements,
so
they
could
basically
ask
for
a
modification
or
an
exception.
They
could
ask
for
it,
but
I
think
council
has
invested
a
lot
in
this
public
benefits
table
as
well,
and
they're
going
to
use
it
as
a
basis
of
evaluation
and
staff
would
certainly
provide
that
analysis.
A
A
Did
that
answer
your
question?
Okay,
are
there
any
other
questions?
I
think
guillaume
was
ready
for
a
mission.
E
Okay
hearing
none,
let
me
go
forward
I'll
move
to
approve
the
proposed
boarding
amendments
to
articles
two
three
5
8,
9
and
17
of
the
udo,
where
the
conditions
that
number
one
the
changes
to
the
definitions
to
small
and
large
hotels
and
the
addition
of
the
new
definition
of
great
room,
guest
room
as
presented
by
staff
on
february
3rd,
be
included
and
two
a
revised
to
a
revision.
To
section.
E
7-8-41
d-1
change
the
density
bonus
for
projects
incorporating
affordable
housing
by
increasing
the
affordability
period
from
15
years
to
20
years
and
to
make
the
same
change
in
the
residential
expansion
district
and
find
that
the
proposed
amendments
are
reasonable
are
in
the
public.
Interest,
are
consistent
with
the
city's
comprehensive
plan
and
meets
the
developments
needs
of
the
committee
community.
H
C
E
C
C
Our
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
a
zoning
map
amendment
to
city
initiated
requests
to
apply
a
new
hotel
overlay
district
to
certain
properties
located
within
the
city
of
asheville
corporate
limits,
planner
coordinating
planners
coordinating
or
stacy
martin
and
vadilla
sotpaka.
G
So
I
guess
for
the
same
same
situation
here
this
hearing
began
in
on
september
the
2nd
and
was
subsequently
continued.
There
was
discussion
in
september
and
october
and
I
believe
in
november,
and
it
was
continued
until
wednesday
february
3rd
and
then
the
public
hearing
closed
last
evening
after
the
24-hour
period
and
we're
here
today
to
answer
any
additional
questions
you
might
have
and
and
to
vote
on
the
project
or
in
the
proposal
with
this
hotel
overlay
zoning
map
amendment.
E
I'm
sorry
go
ahead,
I'm
not
just
very
one
quick
question.
What
is
the
that
note
that
says,
with
the
condition
that
might
be
amended
to
remove
the
property
located
at
185
klingman?
I've
heard
several
mentions
to
the
grey
eagle
project.
E
G
Todd,
maybe
you
can
address
that
question.
H
This
change
was
in
response
to
concerns
that
we
heard
from
some
council
members
about
that
property,
and
we
were
asked
to
take
a
look
at
by
council.
We
were
asked
to
take
a
look
at
cultural
institutions
and
venues
throughout
the
city
and
just
to
see
how
the
overlay
map
aligned
or
didn't
align
with
with
where
those
cultural
venues
are
are
located.
H
And
after
looking
you
know
at
the
map,
we
we
felt,
like
the
the
great
eagle
you
know,
may
not
be
appropriate
for
for
zoning
that
would
allow
it
was
just
a
small
hotel,
not
a
large
hotel
and
we
we
are
recommending
to
remove
it
and
we
felt
like
this
is
not
like
a
spot
zoning
type
of
situation.
It
was
at
the
edge
of
our
district,
a
small
hotel
district
in
the
river
arts
district.
So
the
stats
recommendation
is
to
remove
that
parcel
from
the
overlay
map.
F
F
What
mr
hoke
had
brought
up
originally
on
wednesday,
and
then
I
had
brought
up
or
continued
that
discussion
as
well
on
wednesday
about
the
what
is
now
still
in
a
very
preliminary
phase,
the
racial
equity
mapping
project
that
has
been
going
on
in
the
city
and
how
that
overlays
with
this
hotel
overlay,
district
and
potential
areas
that
we
may
want
to
remove
from
what
is
now
shown
on
the
hotel
overlay
district,
two
of
those,
in
particular
being
the
area
along
depot
street
from
lyman
towards,
I
believe,
it's
bartlett
and
then
also
an
area
around
cox
avenue.
F
I
believe
those
were
the
ones
that
that
todd
had
mentioned
at
least
initially
again
in
that
preliminary
mapping,
that
the
city
has
done,
that
there
were
some
overlays
so
again,
just
wanting
to
bring
that
up
for
some
further
discussion.
E
Motion
I
moved
to
approve
the
zoning
action
to
apply
a
new
hotel
overlay
district,
with
the
condition
that
the
map
be
amended
to
remove
the
property
located
at
185.
Clingman
avenue,
the
gray
eagle
property
from
the
overlay
district
and
after
the
week,
and
that
did
request
is
reasonable,
is
in
the
public
interest
is
consistent
with
the
city's
comprehensive
plan
and
meets
the
development
needs
of
the
community
in
in,
in
that
it
will
number
one
encourage
responsible
growth
that
aims
to
control
and
offset
impacts
of
hotels.
Number
two
limit.
C
C
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second.
We
will
take
a
vote
as.
C
H
C
Moving
on
to
our
next
zoning
map
amendment
item
a
request
to
assign
an
initial
zoning
designation
of
residential
multi-family,
high
density
rm16
to
a
property
expected
to
be
annexed
and
located
off
of
oak
hill
circle
and
moore
crest
road.
The
property
is
a
0.47
acre
portion
of
pin
9629807863
as
identified
in
the
buncombe
county
tax
record.
A
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
This
is,
as
I
described
on
wednesday
during
the
hearing.
This
is
a
request
for
the
commission
to
make
a
recommendation
for
zoning
to
apply
to
property
that
is
currently
not
in
the
city
limits.
The
property
owner
has
petitioned
the
city
to
accept
this,
almost
half
acre,
parcel
or
piece
of
a
parcel
into
the
city
limit
so
that
the
developer
could,
you
know,
have
all
of
his
property
served
by
one
entity.
Rather
than
have
it
be
split
jurisdiction.
A
C
C
C
So
I
appreciate
the
comment
bringing
that
to
our
attention.
The
other
part
of
the
comment,
as
is
so
frequently
the
case,
relates
to
the
concern
about
traffic
that
that
comes
with
development
and
I'm
not
sure
that,
when
a
project
falls
below
the
threshold
for
a
traffic
impact
analysis
that
these
sorts
of
comments
ever
get
addressed-
and
I
had
some
discussion
with
others
recently
about
the
table
that
we
just
approved
or
voted
in
favor
of
in
association
with
hotel
development.
C
It
just
creates
a
bigger
problem,
so
we
need
to
start
looking
at
other
ways
of
dealing
with
transportation,
and
I
believe
that
when
developers
move
into
our
community,
whether
they're
native
or
they're,
moving
from
somewhere
else
that
they
are
benefiting
from
what
we
have
here
in
asheville-
and
this
applies
to
every
locality
they're
benefiting
from
the
the
things
that
that
exist
here
now
and
I
think
there's
it's
not
unreasonable
to
request
that
they
make
a
a
contribution
to
maintaining
the
community
and
facilitating
a
transportation
system
that
works
more
effectively
for
all
types
of
users.
C
C
I
would
like
to
suggest
that
for
this
person
that
that
submitted
this
comment,
that
transportation
will
look
at
this
more
closely.
Once
there
is
a
plan
for
a
project.
F
Thanks
tony,
I
was
going
to
mention
that
that
that
person
had
made
a
public
comment.
I
certainly
would
second
your
comments
even
to
the
extent
that
you
know,
developers
shouldn't
just
be
maintaining
what
we
have
here,
but
but
enhancing
and
improving
what
we
have
in
regards
to
transportation.
F
Excuse
me,
the
other
comment.
Excuse
me,
and
I
made
it
on
wednesday.
Night
too,
is
that
you
know
this
is
this?
Is
the
preliminary
rezoning?
You
know
we
don't
know
what
is
going
to
be
built
there,
and
the
actuality
is:
is
that
you
know
the
zoning
that
we
would
be
proposing,
isn't
any
more
than
what
is
currently
allowed.
So
you
know
we're
we're
not
we're
not
today
voting
on
a
development.
That's
going
to
happen.
We
have
no
idea.
F
A
Property
and
I'll
just
say
too
that
I
did
reach
out
to
that
that
individual,
who
submitted
that
comment
and
thanked
her
for
pointing
out
that
text
in
our
agenda.
That
suggests
that
people
could
take
three
minutes
for
public
comment,
and
that
was
confusing.
So
I
we
did
correct
that
for
this
meeting
and
moving
forward,
so
we'll
we'll
be
sure
to
leave
that
language
off
until
we
can
meet
again
in
person.
A
A
All
right,
well
I'll,
put
something
there,
and
just
since
we're
talking
about
public
comment
just
to
just
for
the
record
and
for
anybody
who
might
be
listening
all
of
the
comments
that
were
received,
the
emails,
the
letters
everything
was
shared
with
the
commission
and
has
been
added
to
the
meetings
folder,
so
so
people
who
submitted
emails.
Thank
you
very
much.
Everything's
been
shared
with
the
folks
who
need
to
see
you.
F
Yes,
thanks
for
saying
that
shannon
we
probably
should-
and
I'm
glad
tony
brought
up
the
fact
that
we
did
receive
that
one
comment
I
wanted
to
make
a
point
of
that
today,
like
since
we're
not
meeting
in
person,
people
may
think
oh
they're
not
paying
attention.
Well,
we
are
getting
these
public
comments,
so
your
your
comments
are
being
heard.
So
thank
you
all
in
the.
F
F
I
move
to
approve
the
initial
zoning
request
to
residential
multifamily,
high
density,
rm16
and
future
land
use
map
designation
of
traditional
neighborhood
and
find
that
the
request
is
reasonable,
is
in
the
public
interest
and
is
consistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan
and
other
adopted
plans
in
the
following
ways.
The
initial
zoning
will
one
support:
orderly
growth
and
development
by
assigning
a
zoning
and
land
use
designation.