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B
B
Non-Members
will
be
speaking
if
one
if
you
need
to
during
our
public
comment
section
and
before
we
get
started,
it
doesn't
look
like
we
have
quorum,
so
we
won't
be
able
to
vote
on
decisions
until
we
have
quorum
and
I'll.
Let
you
know
when
and
if
that
changes,
but
we'll
move
through
our
agenda
as
much
as
we
can
today,
considering
that
we
don't
have
quorum
right
now.
So
the
first
thing
I
want
to
do
is
take
a
quick
roll
just
so
I
can
officially
see
who's
on
the
call.
B
So,
commission
members,
when
I
call
your
name
this-
is
for
voting.
Commission
members,
please
unmute
and
let
me
know
that
you're
here
and
then
you
can
re-mute
so
doesn't
look
like
dwayne
barton
is
on
the
call.
Yet.
B
Here
beverly
miller
here
and
I
did
get
a
call
from
miss
georgia-
shannon
she
has.
She
won't
be
able
to
be
here
today,
but
it
is
an
excused
absence,
so
she
didn't
make
contact
with
me.
So
first
thing
I
want
to
do
is
welcome
our
newest
commission
member,
miss
beverly
miller
beverly.
I
don't
want
to
put
you
on
the
spot,
but
if
you
want
to
say
a
few
words
you're
welcome
to
at
this
time.
A
Thank
you,
and
I
appreciate
everyone
for
having
me
here.
I
am
retired
paramedic
operations
supervisor
from
banking
county
and
I
really
look
forward
to
being
a
part
of
this.
Thank
you.
B
C
Yes,
I'd
just
like
to
say
I'm
very
happy
to
be
here
and
to
meet
and
work
with
you
all
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
all
of
us
working
together
to
make
an
impact
here
in
asheville
that
no
one
will
ever
forget.
B
D
B
You
so
much
so
we'll
just
start
to
move
through
the
agenda.
The
first
thing
on
our
agenda
is
our
work
plan
and
I
just
want
to
remind
everyone
what
our
mission
is
for
this
commission
and
the
mission
for
the
african-american
heritage
commission
is
to
advise
asheville
city,
council
and
buncombe
county
board
of
commissioners
on
issues
concerning
the
enhancement
of
the
economic,
social,
cultural
and
recreational
lives
of
african
americans
in
asheville
and
throughout
buncombe
county.
B
So,
as
we
move
through
this
work,
let's
try
to
keep
our
mission
in
the
forefront
of
our
minds
so
that
we
won't
get
distracted.
So
I
think
all
commission
members
have
had
an
opportunity.
We've
been
working
through
our
work
plan,
and
the
last
thing
I
understood
from
our
meeting
in
november
was
that
we
were
going
to
just
make
sure
there
were
not
any
additional
changes
or
updates.
So
commission
members,
if
you
have
any
additions
or
anything
you'd
like
to
see
added
to
the
work
plan,
you
can
unmute
yourselves
and
talk
about
it
at
this
time.
B
So
thus,
when
we'll
circle
back
when
when,
if
we
get
more
members
on
the
call,
but
thus
far,
it
looks
like
we're
going
to
start
building
and
working
from
our
work
plan
and
implementing
that
and
more
meetings
to
come.
But
that
has
been
a
work
in
progress
and
we've
made
a
couple
of
edits
and
I
think
our
last
meeting
we
had,
we
wanted
to
open
up
the
floor
to
give
one
more
opportunity
to
make
sure
that
everyone
was
happy
with
the
language
in
the
work
plan.
B
Our
goals
that
we've
outlined
and
I'll
just
go
over
them
really
quickly.
Since
we
have
a
little
time.
Our
first
goal
is
to
establish
the
commission
as
a
community
forum,
where
information
impacts,
expression,
issues,
impact
policy
and
program
impact
funding,
contribute
to
the
investment
in
artifacts
around
at
the
vance
monument
about
impactful,
african
americans
and
important
african
african-american
neighborhoods
and
finally
prioritize
an
advocate
for
funding
in
african-american
communities
to
support
an
environment
where
african-americans
feel
about
asheville
buncombe
county,
like
tourists
feel
about
asheville
buncombe
county.
B
So
those
are
the
goals
that
we
outlined
for
the
commission,
as
well
as
our
mission
statement.
So
we'll
just
move
forward
on
our
agenda,
so
one
of
the
things
we
talked
about
in
our
last
meeting
was
to
revisit
the
renaming
and
streets
in
our
city.
So
I
think
at
our
last
meeting
we
talked
about
wanting
to
move
forward
and
having
set
aside
street
names
as
they
move
forward,
to
name
these
street
names
versus
revisiting
and
renaming
old
street
names
so
brandon
and
beverly.
B
I
want
to
open
up
the
floor
and
and
councilwoman
and
richard
please
feel
free
to
join
in
the
conversation.
Should
you
choose
to
about
street
renaming?
We,
as
a
group
talked
about
just
the?
How
impactful
would
it
be
if
we
wanted,
if
we
reached
back
to
change
names
rather
than
moving
forward
and
as
the
city
created
new
streets
we'd
rather
have
a
reservoir
of
names
to
use
for
those
new
streets
going
forward
any
thoughts
or
comments
on
that.
C
The
only
thing
I
was
going
to
say
is,
I
think
I
think
lynn
had
sent
that
report
every
night.
We
talked
about
that.
I
think
yeah.
We
talked
about
that
and-
and
I
actually
thought
that
was
a
great
plan
and
especially
with
the
growth
that
we're
experiencing
now
and
with
all
the
streets
and
all
the
different
highways
and
different
things
is
coming
in.
We
have
a
great
opportunity
to
make
an
impact,
so
I
think
that's
one.
B
Yeah
my
personal
feelings
as
a
business
owner,
I
think
about
what
that
would
and
what
that
would
do
to
a
small
business
having
to
go
through
the
changing
of
their
street
address
when
they
already
have
things
printed
up.
They
have
an
online
presence,
have
customers,
and
I
think
that
would
cause
a
lot
of
difficulty
for
a
small
business
owner,
and
my
words
in
our
last
meeting
is
excuse
me,
that's
just
not
a
hill
that
I
want
to
die
on.
That's
not
a
fight
that
I
want
to
proceed,
I'm
more
about.
B
What's
going
to
unify
our
community,
and
I
don't
know
that
that
will.
But
I
do
think
if
we
look
to
the
future
and
we
and
we
come
up
with
a
list
of
names
and
we
do
our
community
engagement
and
our
community
outreach
so
that
we
can
have
a
large
pool
of
names
to
use
and
that
we
can
give
to
the
city
and
county
for
that
matter
and
recommend
like
these.
Are
people
we'd
like
to
see
streets
named
after
going
forward?
B
I
think
that
be
more
celebratory
and
inclusive
as
we
move
forward
and
from
our
shameful
past.
Quite
frankly-
and
we
can
revisit
that
if,
if
we
need
to
take
an
official
vote
on
that,
we
certainly
can
do
that.
I
just
don't
know
that.
B
That's
where
we,
I
know
we
talked
about
it
in
our
last
meeting,
but
I
wanted
to
bring
that
back
around
because
ben
from
the
city's
office
had
reached
out
to
me
on
this
subject,
and
I
just
wanted
to
have
more
of
an
official
statement
that
I
could
give
to
ben.
I
just
referred
him
to
our
last
meeting,
but
I'd
rather
have
something
that
we
could
just
say
formally.
This
is
our
stance
on
the
street
renaming,
so
we'll
move
forward
any
more
questions
on
that
any
more
comments.
B
Okay,
so
in
our
new
business
we
were
talking.
Oh
no,
I'm
sorry!
Next
next
is
our
terms,
so
my
term
is
ending
katherine's
term
and
so
is
marvin
chambers
term.
So
this
is
the
time
I
wish
to
be
considered
for
an
additional
term
on
the
commission
and
I'll
make
my
wishes
known
to
the
correct,
I
think
I'm
on
from
buncombe
county.
So
I've
told
our
commissioners
that
I
want
to
be
reconsidered
for
an
additional
term
on
the
commission,
but
I
did
want
to
get
katherine
and
marvin
chambers
wishes.
B
As
you
all
may
or
may
not
know.
The
advanced
monument
committee
voted.
I
think
it
was
with
one
and
opposed
to
removing
the
monument.
All
others
voted
to
have
the
monument
removed
and
right
now
it's
in
the
hands
of
the
city
to
proceed.
B
B
So
I
guess
sandra
I'll,
open
up
the
floor
to
you
just
to
talk
about
the
the
monument
you're,
muted.
C
No
well,
of
course,
like
I
said,
I'm
quite
sure.
Most
of
you
have
sort
of
heard
about
my
stance
on
how
I
feel
about
the
monument.
In
fact,
what
I
will
do
is,
after
the
meeting
I
will
more
or
less
sort
of
send
out
just
sort
of
a
basically
just
a
journal.
C
Like
thing
I
wrote
about
the
monument
and
how
I
feel
about
it,
why
I
took
have
taken
such
a
stance
and
basically,
if
you've
seen
the
one
that
was
in
mountain,
express
that
was
sort
of
like
a
sanitized
version
of
basically
what
I
will
be
sending
out,
and
I
just
want
to
share
it
to
you
and
and-
and
the
thing
is
with
me
is,
I
know
we
all
have
different
points
of
views
and
how
we
do
things
and
and
that's
good,
that's
good,
because
that's
the
way
we
have
that's
the
only
way
we're
going
to
grow.
C
That's
the
only
way
we're
going
to
learn
and-
and
I
guess
for
me
for
for
taking
that
stance.
Basically,
I
feel
that
what
is
what
has
happened?
I
really
believe
that
we
are,
and
I
you
know
we're
in
a
reckoning
period.
I
think
we're
in
a
rebirth
rebirthing
period,
a
renaissance
period.
C
I
think
black
people
are
finally
and
given
an
opportunity
to
actually
move
a
lot
of
things
forward
that
we
have
not
been
before,
and
I
think
that,
because
of
this
reason
I
think
that
there
are
so
many
ways
for
us
to
get
more
benefits
to
us,
and
so
with
me
I
always
look
at
because
you
gotta
understand
with
black
people.
We
have
always
been
able
had
to
make
lemonade
out
of
lemons.
I
mean
we've
just
been
given
all
kinds
of
situations
in
life.
C
You
know
even
with
the
cotton
gin
or
even
they
were
picking
cotton.
Of
course
they
come
we'll
come
up
with
a
way
to
do
it
better
and
that's
what
we've
done
all
through
history,
we're
very.
What
do
you
call
it
inventive
and
basically
that's
what
we've
had
to
do
so:
we've
adapted
to
all
types
of
situations.
So
when
people
throw
things
at
me
that
are
curveballs,
I
don't
look
at
the
negatives.
I
don't
really
look
at
what
it
actually
is.
C
I
look
at
how
it
can
benefit
me
and
when
I
first
took
this
stance
on
this
whole
situation,
I
looked
at
this
as
a
way,
basically
is
to
be
able
to
control
because
pretty
much
downtown,
asheville
blacks
have
been
sort
of
just
nothing.
There
there's
nothing
there
that
we
have
left.
Of
course
we
have
the
little
eagle
market
street
thing
that
they're
trying
to
actually
get
back
black
businesses
in,
but
other
than
that
we
have
nothing.
C
So
I
look
at
this
as
an
opportunity
to
be
able
to
control
a
piece
of
downtown
land,
okay,
which
the
price
of
it,
if
it
actually
went
on
the
market,
would
probably
be
million
two
billion
plus
so,
and
I'm
saying
this
is
a
platform
that
we
can
finally
use
to
basically
sort
of
amplify
our
voice
and
our
our
our
fight
and
our
struggle,
because
what
I
found
out
when
I
was
traveling
with
the
airline,
I
found
out
a
lot
of
times
whenever
I
discuss
people
in
different
countries
and
places
and
on
the
flights
or
whatever,
and
I
always
wanted
to
find
out
what
did
they
really
think
of
black
people?
C
Or
what
did
they?
You
know,
because
it
always
sort
of
amazed
me
and
what
I
found
out
is
basically
a
lot
of
times,
because
they
did
not
have
enough
information.
They
didn't
really
know
us.
There
were
concepts,
you
know
the
different
concepts
or
things
that
they
felt
that
we
were
or
whatever,
but
after
they
talked,
we
talked
they
I
found
out.
They
were
like.
Oh
okay,
I
didn't
know
that.
C
I
didn't
know
that
and
once
people
know
who
you
really
are,
then
guess
what
they
have
a
certain
respect
and
understanding,
and
I
feel
that
that's
what's
been
missing
with
the
black
community.
We
don't
have
a
strong
foundation
and
ourselves
and
as
for
so,
if
we
don't
have
a
strong
foundation
nation
ourselves,
then
guess
what?
C
C
So,
like
I
said,
I
look
at
that
as
an
opportunity
for
that,
especially
when
we
found
out
that
with
the
underneath
the
time
capsule
and
it
included
that
black
newspaper-
and
I
say-
and
I
I
guess
that
may
not
mean
a
lot
to
a
lot
of
people,
but
it
meant
a
lot
to
me
and
I
guess
the
reason
it
did,
because
I
was
trying
to
figure
out.
We
don't
know
how
that
happened.
C
We
don't
know
if
it
was
some
type
of
inclusion
that
that,
basically,
that
the
they
were
trying
to
do-
or
we
don't
know
if
it
was
the
caretaker
who
basically
was
responsible
for
putting
that
time.
Capsule
in
there
did
he
actually
go
and
say.
Let
me
slip
this
in
here,
because
I
want
my
black
people
to
know
that
we
were
present
and
we
were
here.
C
So
we
don't
really
know
the
history,
but
we
do
know
it
was
there
and
our
people
were
there,
and
our
people
were
evidently
doing
pretty
well
to
be
able
to
have
newspapers
that
they
were
actually
working
together
as
a
community.
So
that
to
me,
just
meant
a
lot
to
me,
regardless
of
how
it
happened.
So
I
and
like
I
said
by
being
an
art
major
travel
all
over
the
world.
I've
seen
these
monuments
all
over
everywhere.
Cities,
states
everywhere,
and
the
thing
is
about
those
things.
C
Black
history
is
good
to
have
you
know,
because
we
that's
the
way
we
are
using
it
to
sort
of
educate
our
children
and
educate,
but
we
will
not
really
receive
the
amount
of
of
of
what
do
you
call
it
a
respect
that
we
really
need
until
our
history
is
merged
within
history
itself,
white
history,
let
me
call
it
white
history,
because
guess
what
there's
only
one
history
so
therefore,
I
think
that's
a
good
way
to
sort
of
merge
the
histories
where
we
become
one
and
that
way
like
I
said,
we're
looking
at
more
of
an
inclusive,
the
equality
that
we
all
thrive
for.
C
I
just
think
that
it's
just
an
opportunity
to
educate
not
only
our
our
children
to
have
a
place
to
go
and
to
learn
history,
and
when
I
talk
about
repurposing,
I'm
not
it'll
start.
I
tell
people
it's
like
a
living
document.
I
don't
know
how
it's
gonna
work,
it's
gonna
be
the
whole
community,
but
the
first
thing
to
be
is
just
tell
the
whole
story
tell
about
the
struggles
tell
about.
C
Basically,
you
can
talk
about
dance
or
whatever
and
how
he
basically
use
people
in
our
labor
to
actually
build
all
these
different
things,
so
we're
actually
the
ones
that
put
in
the
labor.
So
I'm
just
saying
it's
a
way
to
tell
the
history
and
how
we
actually
were
thriving
doing
well
and
all
of
a
sudden
urban
renewal
comes
through
and
you
know
we
can
talk
about
the
reconstruction.
We
can
talk
about
all
that
stuff.
C
So
when
we
take
our
children
downtown,
they
could
walk
around
and
read
the
history
which
would
stimulate
them
to
go
further
and
say
wait
a
minute.
Let
me
see
what
really
else
what
else
happened
you
know
so
and
not
all
I'm
saying
is,
and
not
only
that
so
when
people
visit
this
city
over
11
million
people
visit
all
you
know
whatever
they
come
and
they
said.
C
Oh,
my
gosh,
I
didn't
realize
black
people
were
doing
all
these
things
and
see
and
and-
and
I
just
think
it's
just
a
good
way-
that
we
can
actually
get
our
voice
heard
and
get
the
respect
that
we
have
been
so
deprived
of.
You
know
because
we
are
strong
resilient
people
and
sometimes
I
think
that
sometimes
things
that
we
do,
I
and
I'm
gonna,
tell
you
I'm
just
gonna,
be
honest
with
you,
don't
be
straightforward,
I
think.
Sometimes,
when
I
hear
people
say
oh
the
monument
it
hurts
us.
No,
that
bothers
me
tremendously.
C
We
are
not
a
weak
people,
our
people
have
died
and
been
hung
and
all
this
stuff
and
then
it
hurts
us
to
see
that
they
were
in
pain.
What
have
we
become
is
that
we
want
to
send
our
young
children
that
that
they're
weak,
that
you
know
they
can't
stand
the
idea
of
hearing
the
history
of
knowing
the
history,
because
guess
what
they're
going
to
need
to
be
strong
and
they
don't
need
to
face
all
these
issues.
So
we
have
got
to.
C
We
have
failed
our
children
in
a
way
by
not
making
sure
that
they're
educated
on
who
they
are
and
who
their
ancestors
were.
Because,
like
I
said
that
has
been-
and
I
think
that
what
happened
with
us,
because
my
mom
and
dad,
they
taught
me
these
things
and
most
of
the
elders,
their
parents
taught
them
these
things.
But
what
happened?
Because
of
all
the
things
that
we've
been
going
through
and
and
and
and
being
able
to
with
the
integration
and
having
us
out
here,
working
and
trying
to
give
our
children
everything.
C
We
were
giving
our
children
everything,
but
we
did
not
give
them
the
strength
and
that
they
needed
or
the
knowledge
that
they
needed
to
stand.
Strong
and
fight
like
our
parents
gave
us
and
we
were.
I
think
we
are
failing
those
kids
and
when
I
I
spoke
with
some
of
the
kids
at
unca,
and
I
looked
at
the
young
kids
and
they
were
telling
me.
Oh
I'm
so
tired
of
the
struggle
and
they're
fighting
and
they're
fighting
and
they
feel
like
they're
beating
their
heads
up
against
the
wall.
C
And
I
listened
to
him
and
I
was
like-
and
I
felt
sorry
for
him
because
I
know
I
was
like
that
when
I
was
in
college
at
unc,
I
was
fighting
and
fighting
and
feel
like
they
need
the
direction
from
us.
The
elders
who've
already
been
through
certain
things.
They
need
our
guidance.
Only
way
we'll
ever
be
able
to
get.
The
change
we
need
is
a
multi-generational
approach.
The
young
people
are
yelling
out
to
us.
C
Saying:
hey,
listen,
we're
out
here
we're
voicing
these
opinions,
we're
doing
this
and
that,
but
what
they
do
not
have
is
they
don't
have
direction
and
that's
where
we
come
in
and
I
just
think
it's
a
great
way
to
start
bringing
all
these
things
to
the
forefront.
I'm
sorry
took
up
too
much
time,
but
that's
it
thanks.
B
Thank
you,
brandon
beverly.
You
want
to
share
your
thoughts.
E
So
sandra,
as
I
was
listening
to
you,
I
I
was
going
back
and
forth
in
my
mind
because
I've
been
debating
about
this
because
I
looked
at
the
monument
and
I
looked
at
the
monument
I
say:
okay,
this
is
a
symbolism
of
of
of
hatred.
I
look
deeper
into
it.
I
say
on
a
personal
level,
if
my
granddad
had
been
murdered
by
someone
and
no
matter
what
that
person
was
doing
in
the
business
world
and
building
up
the
economy
in
the
city,
would
I
want
that
person
to
be
memorialized?
E
Would
I
not
pass
that
down
to
my
children?
But
if
we
look
at
it
and
say
well,
it
wasn't
our
grandfather,
so
we
can
kind
of
turn
our
eye
to
it.
I've
never
looked
at
it
from
the
heart
perspective,
as
you
said,
like
just
looking
at
it
as
art,
it's
a
massive
massive
structure
and,
as
we
were
talking
I
said
well,
you
know
what.
E
E
Okay,
it's
gonna
be
a
fight.
We
still
no
matter
how
we
feel
live
in
a
white,
supremacist,
run
government
and
everything
so
everybody's
gonna
fight,
I
mean
we're
gonna
get
tired.
Our
ancestors
got
tired,
we're
all
gonna
have
to
fight.
So
to
me,
the
monument
I
mean
it's
recognizing
a
time
frame
in
our
life.
It's
it's
it's
celebrating
someone
who
was
a
victor
in
the
battle.
That's
the
way
I
look
at
it.
It's
a
war
and
that's
someone
who
was
victorious
at
the
time
this
area
celebrated.
E
I
I
don't
I'm
not
really
for
just
leaving
it
up
and
celebrating
them,
but
I
mean
to
me
there
there's,
there's
different
things
and
avenues
and
ways
to
go
about
it
to
to
help.
I
don't
think
taking
it
down
is
going
to
change
the
condition
of
black
people
in
this
area.
I
don't
I
really
don't.
I
don't
think
that
by
removing
that
it's
going
to
change
our
condition
at
all,
I'm
with
you
on
the
educating
look
in
order
to
make
any
advancement.
Well,
we
have
to.
We
have
to
tear
this
structure
down.
E
It
is
what
it
is.
That's
400
years
head
start
man,
we
have
a
fight
on
our
hands
for
real
and
it's
bigger
than
monuments,
it's
bigger
than
street,
naming
it's
it's
systemic.
We
talk
about
it,
but
we
don't
really
face
the
reality
of
what
it
is.
I
mean
it
affects
us
in
every
aspect
of
our
lives,
so
we
have
to
take
the
head
on
and
we
have
to
fight.
So
the
part
of
that
fight
requires
leaving
the
monument
up.
Okay,
so
be
it.
E
B
A
Problem,
I
do
agree
with
councilwoman
kilgore
and,
yes,
it
is
gonna,
be
a
fight,
and
this
is
part
of
our
history,
and
I
do
believe
that
it
does
need
to
stay
up.
B
I
will
share
my
thoughts.
I
hope
that
the
council
will
honor
the
decision
and
the
recommendation
from
the
task
force.
The
task
force
put
a
lot
of
time.
I
served
on
the
staff
side
of
the
task
force.
The
task
force
put
a
lot
of
time,
energy
resource
and
discussion.
They
were
very
mindful
of
the
community's
voice.
The
community
was
very
clear
in
what
they
recommended.
Even
the
vance
family
was
very
clear
in
what
they
recommended
and
wanting
the
monument
to
be
removed.
B
B
B
B
Granted
you
didn't
say
that
they
would
decide
the
factor,
but
it
just
feels
very
reminiscent
of
a
lot
of
things
that
happen
in
city
and
county
government.
Give
us
your
own
input.
Let
us
know
what
you
think.
Oh,
we
don't
really
care
what
you
think
we're
gonna
do
whatever,
and
I
have
a
lot
of
thoughts
about
what
I
heard
councilmember
say
today,
but
the
gist
is.
B
I
hope
that
the
council
as
a
whole
will
respect
the
recommendation
that
the
task
force
was
assigned
to
do
that
the
community
put
their
thoughts
into
and
and
if
you
look
at
the
calls
and
the
emails
most
people
were
in
favor
of
having
the
monument
removed,
not
just
african-american
people.
As
I
said,
the
family
advance
was
one
of
the
first
callers
on
a
call
one
night
requesting
that
the
monument
be
torn
down
because
of
the
pain
it's
caused,
and
if
we
don't
it
start.
B
If
we
are
in
the
habit
of
not
acknowledging
our
own
pain,
then
we
will
forever
be
in
the
habit
of
not
acknowledging
our
pain
and
I
just
don't
think
that's
the
way
to
go.
Are
there
any
other
thoughts
from
commission
members
around
the
monument,
and
I
just
want
to
remind
you
that
the
ones
who
are
on
the
call,
who
are
not
a
part
of
the
commission,
feel
free
to
comment
on
whatever
we've
discussed
today
in
our
public
comment
section
we
will
have
a
time
for,
for
you
all
to
speak.
B
Councilman
sandra,
I
interrupted
you.
Oh.
C
No,
that's
no
you're,
fine,
you're
fine
and
I'm
really
happy
that
we're
having
this
conversation,
you
know
it's
been
wonderful
and
what
I
wanted
to
address
basically
was
like
one
of
the
things
that
you
said
that,
and
I
I
hear
people
say
that
a
lot
that
we've
we
commissioned
this
council
to
do
certain
things
and
we
should
but
see
a
task
force.
C
But
I
look
at
task
force
as
basically
that's
what
they
are:
a
task
force
to
come
up
with
information,
more
information
to
give
us
information,
but
I
don't
look
at
them
as
being
superseding
the
elected
officials
or
the
overall.
You
know
people
as
far
as
making
decisions,
because
if
that
were
the
case
that
mean
that
task
commission,
a
task
forces,
would
be
in
control
in
making
decisions
they're
there
to
bring
back
information
to
council.
C
So
I
don't
look
at
their
work,
it's
something
that
we
have
to
take
in
consideration
and
have
to
agree
with
it.
That
I
mean
that's
when
I
look
at
task
force.
But
as
far
as-
and
the
thing
is
with
me,
is
I'm
not.
I
don't
have
any
objections
with
the
task
force.
I
think
the
task
force
did
exactly
what
they
were
commissioned
to
do.
C
I
think
that
when,
if
you
look
at
the
order
of
the
first
task,
when
they
called
for
the
task
force,
they
were
looking
for
people
to
be
on
the
committee
that
were
affected,
I
feel
like
they
were
hurt
by
it.
So
I
felt
that
that
was
subjective
in
nature
and
more
or
less
directed
the
narrative
because
you're
looking
for,
if
you're
looking
for
people
that's
been
affected,
then
of
course
the
outcome
would
be
what
the
people
that's
affected
would
feel
so
and,
like
I
said,
I
was
just
my
concern
with.
C
I
felt
that
on
lan
and
brandon
I
felt
that
more
information.
I
think
the
way
it
was
presented-
and
you
know
with
presentation-
you
can
pretty
much
present
anything
and
people
will
agree
with
it.
So
I
think
presentation
is
important.
C
I
think
that
what
I
was
concerned
with
is
when
I
got
out
here
in
the
community,
and
you
gotta
understand
most
people
I
talk
to
are
my
guests
are
sort
of
in
my
age
group.
You
know
you
got
that
type
of
thing
going
on
and
I
found
that
most
of
people
were
saying.
Oh
no,
I'm
I'm
not
opposed
to
that.
You
know
what
I
mean.
I
I
you
know.
No
one
asked
me
and
I
found
out
a
lot
of
people
in
asheville.
C
This
is
what
I
found
when
I
got
back
to
asheville
that
sort
of
disturbed
me
because
by
being
in
real
estate,
when
I
was
in
florida,
most
of
my
clients
were
very
active
with
emails
and
social
media.
When
I
got
to
asheville
in
2012,
I
wasn't
able
to
sort
of
reach
the
populace
and
the
reason
I
wasn't
able
to
reach
the
populace
because
they
weren't
on
social
media
or
they
didn't
have
emails.
A
lot
of
my
clients.
I
said
you
got
email,
no
one.
I
mean
not.
No
one
very
few
have
emails.
C
So
basically,
I'm
having
to
do
things
manually
and
what
I
was
concerned
about
was
the
voice
of
the
people
in
asheville
is
being
heard
by
the
ones
that's
on
social
media
or
the
one
that's
actively
out
there
and
then,
once
I
start
reaching
out
to
people
that
I
said,
don't
not
on
social
media
talking
these
people
they
were
all
like.
No,
no,
the
monument
does
not
affect
so
I'm
sitting
up
here,
saying:
where
did
they
get
their
consensus?
C
And
all
I
was
asking
is
for
it's
not
a
matter
of.
I
could
not
that
I
could
care.
I
could
care
less
really
about
the
monument
being
removed
or
whatever,
but
my
concern
is
that
we
start
finding
a
way
to
communicate
with
all
the
people,
especially
the
black
media
people
in
the
community,
because
we
have
there's
that
silent
part
of
the
black
community.
That's
never
been
heard,
it's
only
those
ones
in
social
media
and
the
loud
ones,
that's
being
heard.
So
do
we
allow
them?
C
You
know
this
small
sector
to
pretty
much
control,
what
asheville,
blacks
or
whatever
actual
people
feel
and
that
that,
and
so
I
said
all
I
was
asking
for-
was
to
table
it
for
a
minute.
Maybe
we
could
sort
of
get
out
here
and
sort
of
find
out
really
what
the
people
really
want.
It
may
be
something
you
actually
want
to
do
put
on
a
ballot,
you
know,
and
that
and
and
maybe
you
can
have
a
breakdown
on
how
many
black
was
the
black.
C
But
I'm
just
saying
I
felt
that
something
for
that
magnitude
that
could
possibly
affect
basically
the
equity
and
inclusion
programs
that
we're
trying
to
get
off
because
see
what
people
don't
what
I
found
out
a
lot
of
people
that
affect
different
things.
They
don't
talk
about
it,
the
people
that
have
sudden
control
of
different
things
and
whether
our
programs
get
through
or
whether
out
guess
what
you're
not
going
to
hear
about
it,
because
there
is
a
silent
majority
that
controls
everything.
C
C
It
can
always
be
knocked
down,
but
it
can
never
be
brought
back
and
I'm
saying
guess
what
let's
explore
every
opportunity
or
everything,
that's
open
to
us
just
see
see
it
as
it
makes
sense
because,
like
I
said
you
can
never
go
back
and
and
that's
all
I'm
saying
we
just
need
to
sort
of
look
at
benefits
or
whatever
and
and
when
I
and
and
people
it's
not
about
dance.
That's
what
I'm
saying
it's
not
about
dance!
It's
just
telling
the
story
of
history
without
history
being
a
part
of
it.
It's
not
about
dance.
C
Like
I
said
I
couldn't
not.
You
know
care
less
about
this
man
or
whatever,
and
then
you
sort
of
ask
yourself:
where
does
it
go
samuel
ash?
Basically,
he
had
slaves
and
I
don't
really
know
a
whole
lot
about
him.
But
do
we
look
at
his
past
and
say
that's
who
asheville
was
named
after?
After
do
we
start
changing
this?
The
city
name
from
ash?
C
But
you
ask
yourself
how
much
it's
gonna
cost
to
redo
that
part
and
where's
the
money
gonna
come
from
the
pit
of
despair
already
is
sort
of
guesstimated
at
13
million
right
there
on
that
part
of
town,
okay
and
they've
got
like
a
urban
plan,
a
little
plan
for
it.
Okay,
now
you're
looking
at
13
million
now
you're
looking
at
downtown
monument,
which
basically
I
said
all
this
money,
all
the
stuff
going
on
right
now
we
make
we
have
to
sort
of
look
at
what's
important
at
this
time.
C
You
think
about
redoing
that
park
area
once
you
tear
it
down
or
whatever
they're
going
to
put
some
money
into
it,
ashley's
not
going
to
let
anything
sit
there
that
that
looks
bad,
so
say
if
you
say,
7
million,
so
you
got
now
you
got
set.
You
got
14
million,
plus
7
million
to
redo
this
little
park
area
that
you
want
to
tear
down
right
now.
Now
we're
talking
about
money
that
we're
trying
to
get
for
reparations,
okay
reparations
that
can
help
the
community
to
help.
Now,
where
is
this
money
going
to
come
from
you're?
C
Looking
at
all
this
money,
and
I'm
just
saying
we
just
sort
of
need
to
prioritize
what
is
important,
what
can
make
the
biggest
impact?
What
can
change
black
people's
lives?
What
can
help
us
and
not
deal
with
things
that
we
can
deal
with
later,
which
is
not
affecting
anything?
That's
all.
I
think
just
give
it
time
more
or
less
we
can
do
like
I
said,
do
some
more
research
but,
like
I
said
whatever
the
community
decide,
that's
fine
with
me.
C
C
We've
got
to
have
to
start
looking
deeper
into
repercussions
and
a
way
to
to
make
things
benefit
us
because,
and
I
just
like
the
little
kid
girls,
I
was
telling
you
about
the
little
kids
at
unc
and
they
were
beating
their
hairs
above
the
wall
and
I'm
looking
around
saying
wait
a
minute
if
they
just
look
around
they'll
find
an
open
door
where
they
can
walk
through
that
door
and
do
things
they
need
to
do
and
get
the
resources
they
need
to
do,
but
instead
they're
looking
straight
ahead.
C
So
I'm
saying
I
just
want
people
to
start
opening
their
eyes
and
looking
at
that,
we
cannot
keep
being
led
subconsciously
up
subliminally
by
things
that
really
does
not
benefit
us
because
a
lot
of
times
I've
seen
us
just
been
used
in
movements,
people,
they
they're
they're,
doing
movements
for
one
thing,
and
then
they
attach
themselves
to
black
people
and
then
all
of
a
sudden,
it's
you
know
they
use
us
because
guess
what
we
get
leverage
we've
got
to
start
using
other
people
and
other
things
to
benefit
our
movement.
That's
all
I'm
saying.
E
E
Didn't
listen
in
councilwoman
kilgore.
I
do
agree,
the
entire
community
is
not
being
touched
and
the
voice
that
is
being
heard
is
certain
ones
that
are
on
social
media
and
email.
I
have
gentlemen
in
my
group
that
are
email
connected
like
that,
but
they
have
a
strong
voice
and
opinion
about
things.
So
I
I
completely
agree
with
you
on
that.
It's
it's
difficult!
We
have
to
we.
We
have
to
I
really
like
what
you
said
about
man.
They
use
us.
E
They
use
our
energy,
our
momentum,
our
fire,
because
I
was
thinking
today
where
where's
all
the
black
lives
matter,
signs
where's
all
the
the
the
blackout,
things
where's,
all
the
fists
that
were
up
we're
a
fad,
we're
a
fan
and
we
get
used
like
that
and
we
have
to
stop
so
I,
like
you,
you
do
you
have
to
look
around
at
avenues.
I
appreciate
you
saying
that
so
thank
you.
B
So
next
on
our
agenda
right
now
I
want
to
talk
about
city
liaison
and
county
liaison,
so
county
liaison
our
communications
team.
They
are
in
the
process
of
hiring
a
communications
specialist
who,
I
believe,
will
serve
as
our
county
liaison.
B
So
right
now,
I'm
doing
dual
roads,
dual
roles
in
a
sense
until
they're
able
to
fill
that
position-
and
richard
is
interim
equity
and
inclusion.
Director
edition,
in
addition
to
being
assistant,
city
manager,
so
he's
serving
as
our
liaison
right
now
on
the
city's
behalf,
and
he
and
I
met
a
couple
of
days
ago-
and
I
just
want
to
I'm
working
on
a
solution-
hopefully
just
to
kind
of
keep
in
the
back
of
your
mind,
but
we're
talking
about
the
need
to
move
our
commission
readings
to
quarterly.
B
For
now,
because
the
city
has
to
broadcast
every
commission
meeting
every
committee
meeting
via
youtube
live.
So
I've
been
talking
to
ashley
and
we're
having
some
conversations
on
the
side
to
see
if
we
can
create
a
workaround
so
that
our
commission
can
continue
to
meet
on
a
monthly
basis
without
putting
a
burden
on
the
city.
So
I'm
asking
questions
about
what's
permissible.
B
So
best
case
scenario
we'll
be
able
to
meet
monthly
via
zoom,
but
worst
case
will
be
on
a
quarterly
basis.
But
if
there's
something
that
comes
up
in
the
in
the
interim,
you
can
get
with
me
and
we
can
have
a
meeting
sooner
if
we
need
to
so
just
keep
that
in
mind.
B
Okay
and
I'm
looking
over
my
notes,
somebody
came
up
with
me:
brandon.
E
E
And
lynn,
I
think
if
we
can
push
to
be
monthly,
I
think
that
will
be
best.
I
mean
I
think
we
need
to
our
window
of
opportunity
is
closing,
and
I
think,
but
we're
gonna
have
to
show
some
calls
for
it.
We're
gonna
have
to
get
some
things
done,
so
I
support
being
monthly
whatever
we
have
to
do,
I
don't
want
to
get
pushed
to
accordingly,
just
because
we're
not
as
important
as
maybe
a
different
board.
No,
we
are
just
as
important.
So
if
they're
going
to
be
monthly,
then
we're
going
to
be
monthly
too.
B
B
But
we
don't
want
to
cut
the
community
off,
but
I
certainly
hear
you
and
agree
that
we
don't
want
to
because
it's
so
easy
to
start
to
lose
touch
if
we
move
to
quarterly
and
it's
been
difficult
enough
with
the
pandemic
and
trying
to
stay
connected
and
that's
having
meetings
sporadically.
So
I
agree
wholeheartedly
and
support
us
staying
on
monthly.
So
I'll
do
what
I
can
to
see
that
we
can
do
that
and
I'll
just
be
in
touch
with
you
all
to
let
you
know
where
we
are
with
that.
But
it's
not
impossible.
B
B
I
have
talked
to
every
commission
member,
either
via
email
or
on
our
last
meeting,
but
I've
gotten
commun
verbal
commitments
from
everyone
on
our
commission.
So
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
your
commitment
to
the
commission
and
hopefully
moving
forward.
We
can
get
back
on
a
schedule,
regular
schedule
and
continue
to
build
momentum
so
that
we
can
really
dig
down
into
the
work
that
we've
created
and
mapped
out
in
our
work
plan.
Get
back
to
that
basics.
B
Remember
what
we
started
our
commission
for
and
really
see
how
we
can
work
with
the
city
and
county
so
that
we
can
make
this
vision
for
our
commission
broader
and
really
more
successful.
For
years
to
come,
so
at
this
time
I'm
going
to
open
up
the
floor
for
public
comments.
If
you
have
a
public
comment,
feel
free
to
raise
your
hand,
and
let
me
know
or
unmute,
and
the
floor
is
open
at
this
time
for
public
comments.
F
Okay,
hey
everybody
glad
to
be
able
to
participate
and
listen
in
there
were
a
variant
of
opinions.
So
it's
not
practical
for
me
now
to
try
to
dissect.
F
I
would
like
to
say
this:
I've
tried
to
get
on
this
board
before
and
I'm
going
to
request
again
that
I
have
access
to
this
board.
My
voice
needs
to
be
on
this
board.
It
is
a
necessary
voice
and
I
don't
understand
why
I
am
not
being
able
to
penetrate
and
be
on
this
board.
B
Mr
mcafee,
thank
you
for
your
comment.
You
and
I
have
talked
before
so
I
will
let
you
know
that
there
is
a
process
to
be
on
the
board
when
there
is
a
vacancy
available,
the
city
and
county,
depending
on
what
site
it's
on,
will
publish
that
there's
a
vacancy.
You
can
complete
an
application
for
consideration
at
this
time.
B
We
don't
have
any
vacancies
and
I
we
had
one
that
miss
beverly
field
and
I
don't
recall
seeing
your
application
come
through
for
consideration
if
it
was,
and
there
was
I
I'm
sorry,
I
can't
hear
you
miss.
F
Yeah
I
I
wouldn't
know
that
the
position
was
available.
I
came
to
several
of
the
meetings
before
governor
19..
F
I
spoke
with
you
if
there's
a
process
that
I
need
to
be
up
to
demand
it
on,
so
that
a
position
becomes
available,
it's
filled,
and
then
I'm
told
about
it.
After
the
fact.
I
find
that
disingenuous.
B
We
did
not
receive
the
application
was
who
who
appointed
beverly
was
a
city
or
county.
There
was
a
commission
the
board.
We
did
not
see
his
application
on
the
commission
on
the
county
side.
Well,
no.
C
Yeah,
you
didn't
see
it
on
the
county
side
and
we
didn't
see
it
in
council
because
they
have
a
boards
of
commission,
basically
that
they've
appointed
in
council
that
basically
decides
that
so
yeah
his.
But
his
application
was
there.
C
B
So,
mr
mcafee,
what
I
can
do
is
I
can
reach
out
to
that
commission
and
find
out
more
information
about
your
application.
I
did
not
see
it
because
it
didn't
come
through
on
the
county
side,
and
this
was
a
county's
county
slot
that
was
filled,
not
a
city
slot.
F
Well,
if,
if
politics
are
involved,
if
I
need
to
talk
to
someone
in
order
to
get
on
the
board-
and
I
need
to
have
the
information
to
do
that-
but
right
now
I
feel
like
I'm
an
ostrich
with
my
head
in
the
sand.
I've
made
the
time
and
the
effort
to
get
involved,
which
is
exactly
what
you
guys
all
say.
We
need
to
do
yet.
Every
time
I
seem
to
get
involved
when
it
comes
to
this
board,
I
seem
to
hit
a
brick
wall
and
I
I
don't
find
that
to
be
a
coincidence.
B
B
I
have
not
seen
your
application,
nor
have
any
of
our
commission
members,
so
I
don't
know
how
to
advise
you
going
forward,
but
what
I
can
do
is
I
can
reach
out
to
the
commission
that
the
city
has
just
to
see
if
there
was
something
missing
on
your
application.
I
don't
know
anything,
unfortunately,
to
offer
to
you,
and
nor
would
I,
in
this
public
forum,
but
feel
free
to
email
would
be.
F
Fine
with
me,
okay,
could
I
just
say
one
thing
very
quickly:
anything
that
I
do
where
I
am
volunteering,
my
time
and
effort.
I
am
only
doing
that
for
the
betterment
of
my
children.
That's
my
passion,
that's
what
I
care
about
so
because
I
have
passion
I
could
possibly
run
from
people
the
wrong
way.
F
F
B
B
G
My
first
question
would
be
what
constitutes
a
quorum,
and
how
do
you
develop
a
form?
G
This
particular
meeting,
and
one
of
the
things
that
always
have
irritated
me,
is
to
be
involved
in
something,
and
you
are
stopped
stifled,
because
two
or
three
people
or
four
people
don't
show
up
and
you've
got
single-minded,
single-hearted,
hard-working
people
putting
all
their
efforts
in
and
they're
stopped
because
of
a
quorum.
So
what
constitutes
a
quorum
for
this
committee.
B
B
B
I
don't
know
I
think
that
is
pretty
much
set
in
how
it
has
to
be,
because
you
don't
want
to
make
a
decision
for
the
body
when
the
majority
of
the
people
aren't.
Here.
I
hear
what
you're
saying-
and
I
agree
to
your
point-
that
it
does
stop
progress,
you're,
absolutely
correct,
but.
G
G
Okay,
so
if
the
forum
cannot
be
organized
or
instructed
after
two
or
three
consecutive
meetings,
it
has
to
go
because
you're
stopping
progress
on
the
movement
of
your
goals
and
objectives,
reflecting
back
on
some
of
the
things
that
were
discussed
today,
it
was
an
awesome
meeting.
I
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
participate.
Equity
and
inclusion
were
the
key
cornerstones
of
our
actions
for
the
events
monument
discussions.
G
G
It
was
a
painful
discussion
and
process
to
get
that
part
switching
to
another
subject:
community
involvement,
it's
an
absolute
must
otherwise
people
will
say
that
fateful
few
made
the
decision.
I
had
nothing
to
do
with
it.
I
don't
know
where
they're
coming
from.
I
don't
know
who
came
up
with
that
discussion,
but
you've
got
to
have
community
involvement
and
if
that
involves
nightly
meetings
that
involve
meetings
without
zoom.
If
that
involved
meetings
without
google
meet,
we
have
to
find
a
way
to
do
it
because
you've
got
to
reach
those
people
that
are
not
automation.
G
Literate
you've
got
to
reach
those
people
that
are
generationally,
disconnected
you've,
got
to
reach
all
generations
and
keep
them
involved
in
the
process.
That's
absolutely
critical
for
people
to
have
ownership
into
what
was
decided
and
move
on.
If
you
want
the
city
to
be
involved,
they've
got
to
have
involvement
and
they've
got
to
know
what's
going
on,
so
it
might
be
an
effort
put
forth
to
spread
the
word
a
little
better
on
what
is
being
discussed.
G
G
G
B
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
wisdom.
I
agree
you're
right
and
there
are
things
that
we
can
do
that
we
can
improve
in
those
areas.
We
have
talked
about
moving
the
time
of
our
meetings
to
allow
for
more
people
to
be
able
to
engage
and
have
access
to
us.
That's
still
on
the
table
as
far
as
finding
the
right
time
that
all
this
can
work
and
come
together
and
we
have
to
be
able
to
be
accessible
to
our
community.
You
make
some
very
valid
points
about
the
generational
disconnect.
B
We
we
want
to
be
able
to
work
on
that
and
be
better
at
that
and
as
far
as
quorum.
You
know
there
are
policies
and
procedures
that
we
have
to
have
in
place
for
order,
so
we
have
to
be.
It
goes
back
to
being
inclusive,
but
if
people
aren't
able
to
be
here,
we
have
to
come
up,
have
different
conversations
and
maybe
that
time
could
solve
a
lot
of
that.
That's
moving
to
a
different
time.
Slot.
B
Okay,
any
other
comments,
mr
mcafee,
please
unmute.
I.
F
Don't
know
that
we
need
to
get
rid
of
the
forum,
we
need
to
find
people
that
are
committed
and
dedicated
and
being
present
when
they're
supposed
to
be,
and
if
the
people
on
the
board
now
cannot
fulfill
that
role.
I
recommend
one
of
them
get
out
of
the
way
for.
C
C
G
B
I
just
understood-
and
I
appreciate
your
thoughts
and
your
comments.
I
appreciate
brandon.
E
I'm
gonna
say
in
regards
to
the
keeping
the
community
involved
comment
that
there
is
a
community
engagement
academy
meeting
tonight
from
6
30
to
8..
I
have
not
attended
one.
I
am.
I
cannot
speak
on
what
it
is,
but
I
do
understand
that
it
is
for
us
and
it
starts
the
roots
of
building
community.
E
C
That
you
know
any
about
that,
is
that
the
one
brandon
is
that
the
one
that
they're
doing
with
the
healing
process
of
preparing
us
for
the
stages
of
working
with
the
reparations
is,
I
think,.
C
Yes,
yes,
and
what
it's
actually
doing
is
it's
set
up
and
what
they're
doing
is
it's
going
to
be
basically
on
storytelling
where
people
come
together,
because
what
we're
doing
is
preparing
the
stage
for
actually
identifying
the
people
that
would
be
on
the
reparation
commission
and
and
basically
they
set
it
up
in
three
different
phases
and
what
happens?
C
The
first
phase
is
what
we're
in
now,
where
we're
connecting
with
the
community,
so
people
can
come
out,
tell
their
stories
and
what
they
think
of
what
you
know,
different
things
that
sort
of
bring
us
together
and
then
from
there.
I'm
not
sure
I
don't
have
all
the
little
plans.
You
know
steps
in
front
of
me,
but
this
is
the
first
step
of
preparing
for
the
reparations
resolution
or
getting
that
in
place.
Thank
you.
A
B
So
we
don't
need
to
have
to
vote
to
adjourn,
but
I
just
want
to
thank
everyone
for
your
attendance
for
your
comments
for
your
passion,
for
your
care
and
concern
for
being
here.
I
love
a
good
discussion.
We
don't
always
have
to
agree,
but
we
always
have
to
be
mindful
and
hear
others
when
they're
speaking
and
respect
their
opinions,
but
hopefully
we'll
be
moving
forward
I'll,
be
reaching
out
to
you,
mr
mcafee.
B
Okay
and
thank
you
for
being
here
and
just
being
a
part
of
our
commission
and
coming
to
our
meetings,
you've
been
doing
this
for
a
while.
So
it's
good
to
see
your
face
here
today
and
mr
olef.
Thank
you
for
your
work
that
you've
done
on
the
task
force
and
for
being
here
today
and
to
council
member
kilgore
and
richard.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
attendance.
We
really
appreciate
it.
B
Thank
you.
So
if
no
further
comments
or
questions
we'll
dismiss.