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A
Foreign,
we
are
live
all
right
thanks,
Kira
good
afternoon
everyone
I'm
chair,
Anna
priest,
night
I,
actually
officially
changed
my
name
yesterday.
So
we
can
make
record
of
that
on
my
very
last
meeting
of
Stacy.
A
I
would
like
to
welcome
you
all
to
this
sustainability
advisory
committee
on
energy
and
environment.
This
is
our
November
meeting
of
2022.
All
committee
members
and
staff
are
participating.
Virtually
we
are
streaming
live
on
our
virtual
engagement
Hub,
which
is
accessible
through
the
virtual
engagement
Hub
link
on
the
city's
front
page
website
and
also
linked
on
our
committees
page,
and
we
have
an
option
for
the
public
to
Listen
by
phone
and
for
those
of
you
who
are
out
there
with
us
today.
A
Welcome
I'll
now
go
through
and
introduce
all
the
committee
members
who
are
participating
virtually
please
make
sure
to
unmute
your
microphone
to
say
hello.
Actually
we're
not
going
to
do
that.
We're
just
gonna,
wait
and
do
that
for
now
I
guess
we
do.
We
have
to
do
a
roll
call.
Sorry,
everyone,
I'm
I,
have
super
brain
fog.
Today,.
A
Okay,
one
thing
to
note:
there
was
a
September
public
comment
that
was
missed.
A
A
Okay
was
there
any
public
comment
for
this
meeting.
However,.
A
B
B
We
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
food
scraps
drop
off
we're
just
celebrating
one
year
of
public
opportunity
to
do
to
participate
in
the
food
scrap
program.
We've
diverted
193,
000
pounds
or
132
tons
at
the
four
public
opportunity
sites
so
far
with
the
newest
one
opening
in
West
Asheville
just
this
fall
so
excited
about
that
programs
Evolution
and
the
move
towards
operationalizing
that
here
in
the
city
and
the
county
see
they'll
use
Plastics
I.
B
Think
most
of
you
are
aware
that
at
the
October
11th
meeting,
Council
directed
The
sustainability
staff
to
continue
to
do
public
engagement
in
a
two-phased
approach,
so
sort
of
took
our
recommendation
to
move
forward
with
the
leaf
bag,
ordinance
update.
B
So
looking
forward
to
that
ongoing
engagement
in
and
finally
with
the
municipal
climate
action
plan,
y'all
have
been
quite
involved
with
that.
So
thank
you
for
your
work
there.
To
date,
the
project
page
is
up
to
date.
We
do
have
our
first
draft
in
hand,
so
we're
excited
to
be
reviewing
that
with
our
departmental
partners
across
the
city,
there
will
be
an
opportunity
for
Stacy
to
review
a
draft
in
January
and
committee
specific
opportunities
to
engage
with
that
and
continue
to
offer
feedback
as
we
move
towards
a
draft.
B
Our
final
report,
I,
should
say
going
to
council
for
adoption
in
February
of
next
year,
so
continuing
to
move
that
project
along
happy
to
answer
any
questions
provide
additional
input
and
then
we'll
also
direct
folks
who
are
listening
and
the
committee
back
to
the
memo
that
is
included
in
the
agenda.
E
Own
life,
fails,
it
never
fails.
It
never
fails.
I
have
a
number
of
questions
actually
just
to
really
information
gathering
on
the
I
guess
to
start
start
with
the
MCAT.
You
said
you
had
a
first
draft
in
hand.
Does
that
mean
at
first
draft
in
your
hands
only
or
is
there
one
available.
B
It
is
in
our
hands,
currently
we're
doing
internal
review.
We
just
received
it
so
we're
working
through
kind
of
working
that
in
our
departmental
stakeholders
by
high
input
activity.
So
the
intention
with
that
plan
is
to
we
have
two
rounds
of
of
input
with
the
Consultants
on
drafts
that
are
happening
through
the
end
of
the
calendar
year
and
then
we'll
move
to
graphics
and
so
looking
forward
to
I.
B
Think
there
is
a
climate
resilience
working
group
review
with
the
safety
climate
resilience
working
group
on
the
calendar
in
December
and
that's
the
primary
opportunity.
And
then
it
will
come
back
to
Stacy
for
a
review
in
our
January
meeting.
E
Okay
I
understand:
there
are
open
meeting
restrictions
on
discussion
and
the
like,
but
will
the
draft
be
available
for
every
everybody.
B
To
CC,
as
a
group,
that's
correct:
there
is
an
opportunity
at
the
working
group
level
for
working
groups
to
review
the
draft.
I
can't
tell
you
exactly
when,
because
I
don't
know
where
that
fits
into
the
timeline.
But
yes,
but
a
draft
will
come
to
the
larger
body
in
the
the
January
public
meeting.
Yes,.
C
Kira
I
wasn't
aware
that
all
the
work
groups
were
going
to
have
I
thought
this.
The
resilience
work
group
was
reviewing
it.
Are
you
saying
all
the
work
groups
are
because
that's
not
I
knew.
B
F
Oh
sorry,
no
speak,
I'm,
sorry
Steve.
This
is
Michael
Totten
I'm
I
have
to
dial
in
this
time
so
I
don't
know
how
to
break
my
hand,
a
phone
call
but
I
just
wanted
to
reinforce
with
Steve
Steve
and
I.
Both
are
on
the
energy
committee
and
there's
we
have
so
much
discussion
about
climate,
so
I
certainly
hope.
There's
no
lost
opportunities
for
getting
involved
early
as
we
can
to
see
and
review
it.
F
E
A
I
mean
this
is
an
important
undertaken
document.
Now
everybody
I
think
not
not
even
Just
Energy
Group
at
all
of
us
I
think
should
be
and
we'll
be
in
engaged
when
the
opportunity
arises.
That
was
I
was
just
asking
about
timing,
food
scraps,
question
few
questions.
E
Memo
says:
1900
households
was
that
right,
which
I
calculate
to
be
given
the
other
numbers
about
a
hundred
pounds
of
scraps
per
household
per
year.
Is
that
are
these
numbers
a
lot
or
a
little?
How
do
you
measure
success?
E
How
much
does
the
program
cost?
What
are
the
prospects
for
expansion,
a
question
on
question
but,
as
you
wish.
B
Yeah
so
far,
we're
really
impressed
with
the
community.
That
is
definitely
a
lot.
I
mean
we
don't
the
way
that
we're
collecting
data
to
date
is
through
registration
data,
so
we're
not
able
to
exactly
correlate
the
households
that
are
actually
participating
versus
those
that
registered.
So
presumably
that
means
some
of
those
households
are
providing
less
than
that
and
some
are
providing
more
than
that
in
terms
of
their
diversion.
B
But
to
your
your
broader
question
around,
how
are
we
measuring
success
and
how
are
we
planning
for
expansion
in
the
future
that
we're
the
current
phase?
So
we've
been
in
two
pilots?
Basically,
the
first
one
was:
will
this
work
at
all?
Will
anyone
Drive
their
food
scraps
around?
Let's
open
one
at
stevensley
and
see
how
it
goes
raging?
Success
people
it
turns
out,
are
willing
to
drive
their
food
scraps
around
pilot.
B
Two
is
what
does
this
look
like
as
an
expansion,
so
Stevens
Lee
was
a
lot
of
infrastructure,
a
larger
shed,
so
we
thought
okay,
we
want
this
to
be
more
neighborhood
based.
B
So
we're
currently
in
phase
three
which,
coming
back
to
your
question,
is
where
we
think
about
how
to
operationalize
both
the
existing
pilot
programs
and
also
think
about
continuing
to
strategize
with
the
county
around
expansion.
What
does
that
look
like?
How
do
we
get
to
the
four
corners
from
our
perspective,
the
four
corners
of
the
city
and
haven't
really
been
a
neighborhood-based
initiative
and
better
being
able
to
calculate
and
articulate
return
on
investment
in
terms
of
who
can
access
them?
B
How
how
much
diversion
is
this
really
contributing
to,
and
how
does
it
fit
within
a
wider
conversation
of
waste
reduction,
which
is
where
it
becomes
relevant
to
the
goals
that
we're
operating
underneath
into
the
goals
of
this
committee?
So
I
don't
know
the
answer
to
those
yet,
but
we're
looking
to
translate
what
we
do
know
in
terms
of
how
we
have
been
collecting
data
into
some
wider
Trends
and
to
be
able
to
extrapolate
on
that
data
to
make
better
planning
decisions.
As
we
operationalize.
E
I
must
say
this
all
sounds
great
and
I'm
I'm.
You
will
think
ill
of
me,
but
I
I'm
I'm,
quite
surprised
that
the
that
there's
been
such
apparently
good
participation,
I
I,
would
have
imagined
and
I
never
realized.
My
own
personal
bias
that
driving
food
scraps
around
would
not
be
high
on
my
list
of
adding
things
to
do
just
because
not
because
I
wouldn't
want
to,
but
just
because
of
the
having
another.
Yet
another
thing
to
do
and
as
a
convenience,
I
think
is
clearly.
E
You
know
debate
the
ticket
to
getting
this
thing
really
amped
up
and
the
like.
Has
there
been
there
haven't
been
any
hasn't
been
any
discussion
with
I
know,
there's
a
private
organization
that
will
come
to
your
house
right,
you
pay
a
fee
and
they'll
bring
it
to
bring
back
dirt
for
you
to
use
in
your
garden.
E
That
sort
of
thing
has
there
been
any
it
probably
not
maybe
premature,
to
even
think
about
talk
about
some
kind
of
public-private
collaboration
that
could
you
know
that
could
make
this
thing
super
convenient
for
people
if
they
could
just
leave
it
out
without
maybe
paying
the
paying
the
fee.
I
don't
know
I
just
throw
that
out
there
I.
B
Don't
yeah
I
mean
certainly
be.
This
is
one
piece
of
the
puzzle
and
how
do
we
divert
Organics,
because
we
know
that
we
have
to
meet
people
where
they
are
and
and
figuring
out,
what's
the
right
fit
for
some
people,
and
so
we
have
for
many
years
emphasized
with
City
operations
supporting
people
in
backyard.
Composting
I
feel,
like
we've,
really
made
strides
they're,
offering
instruction
offering
resources,
and
so
this
is
sort
of
the
next
iteration
of
well.
We
know
people
live
in
multi-family
housing.
B
We
know
people
are
concerned
about
bears,
we
understand,
there
are
people
who
really
want
to
compost
the
cant,
and
so
that's
sort
of
The,
Next,
Step
I.
Think
as
we
continue
to
think
about
addressing
as
many
audiences
as
possible-
and
you
know
the
largest
return
on
investment
or
carbon
calculation
would
include
less
vehicle
miles
traveled
with
your
food
scraps
right.
So
if
you
could
walk
in
or
bike
it,
then
it's
the
it's
the
best
equation,
so
I
think
there's
a
combination
of
thinking
about.
B
When
do
we
really
max
out
on
the
people
willing
to
move
their
food
scraps
around
at
all
and
then
what
is
it?
What
are
what
what
are
the
next
phase
options
look
like
and
how
do
we
bring
it
to
more
people
and
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
ways
that
that
conversation
might
go
over
time.
Allison.
Do
you
have
your
hand
up.
G
G
B
The
current
program
is
a
residence
only
program
from
a
capacity
and
kind
of
capture
standpoint,
so
that's
definitely
a
big
sector
that
is
not
addressed
through
this
opportunity.
There
are
private
haulers
that
service
restaurants
and
and
retailers
in
our
community
currently,
but
we
know
that
that's
a
hole
in
the
in
the
bigger
picture
in
in
the
long
run
all
right
thanks.
E
I,
have
one
single-use
Plastics
question:
Cooper?
Can
you
can
you
just
if
you,
if
you
guys
have
focused
I,
had
time
to
focus
on
it
yet
which
in
getting
the
public
feedback
that
you're
that
you're
starting
you're
about
you're,
I,
guess
you're
going
to
start
in
February
or
something
yeah
to
do
that?
My
question
is:
who
do
who?
Which
groups
do
you
plan
to
focus
on?
E
In
particular,
I
would
think
that
small
businesses
and
even
large
businesses
that
may
be
effect
affected
by
this
and
how
it
would
affect
their
business
and
timing
of
implementing
this
thing.
I
I
hope
that
that's
high
priority
on
on
the
list
of
getting
getting
feedback.
B
B
So
part
of
what
we're
doing
with
our
first
round
of
internal
engagement
is
is
doing
talking
to
our
colleagues
here
in
the
city
and
and
understanding
where
those
connections
currently
live
and
how
we
leverage
that,
in
order
to
get
out
specifically
into
the
business
Community
underserved
communities
of
residents
and
really
understanding
how
what
the
impacts
are
positive,
negative
known
unintended
to
really
flesh
out
a
bigger
picture
of
what
what
it
would
look
like
to
roll
out
any
kind
of
plastics
reduction
initiative
going
forward.
A
Three
unfinished
business
3A
approval
of
the
2022
annual
report.
Thank
you
all
so
much
for
getting
your
sections
of
the
annual
report
in
in
a
timely
manner.
That
was
super
helpful
for
us
this
year
to
to
get
that
together,
we're
in
no
risk
of
missing
the
deadline.
This
year,
like
we
did
last
year,
so
we're
good
to
go.
A
We
will
need
to
approve
the
report.
We
can
go
ahead
and
do
a
motion
in
a
second
and
then
do
the
discussion
if
there
were
any
edits
that
anyone
wanted
to
make
at
that
time.
So
let
me
know
if
anyone
would
like
to
make
a
motion
to
approve.
B
A
A
A
C
A
The
if
we
are
in
favor
of
approving
Ann
Keller
I.
C
A
F
A
H
A
A
A
We
gave
you
all
a
heads
up
at
the
retreat
in
September
is
that
in
September,
whenever
that
retreat
was
that
both
Ann
and
I,
chair
and
by
share
respectively,
will
be
rolling
off
next
month.
So
Tim,
Arman
and
Steve
Barron
have
volunteered
to
take
on
these
roles
respectively,
Tim
and
the
position
of
chair
Steve
in
the
position
of
Vice
chair.
A
A
Okay,
so
we
will
need
a
motion
to
approve
the
nomination
of
chair
and
vice
chair,
as
stated
previously.
A
C
I
H
A
That
right,
yeah,
the
salary
usually
consists
of
a
free
bus,
pass
I
think
we
all
get
that
and
free
tickets
to
the
basketball
game
or
something
like
that.
C
Yes,
I'm
in
favor
of
Tim
and
Steve
taking
those
positions.
Thank.
A
A
A
H
A
C
Foreign,
yes,
everybody
had
an
opportunity
to
review
the
bylaws
I
feel
like
we
did
this
a
few
years
ago,
but
I
can't
remember
exactly
when
and
I,
don't
know
that
it
says
it
anywhere.
That
would
be
another
nice
thing
to
add
Kira
as
I'm
thinking
about
it
at
the
bottom
of
it
is
put
the
the
date
lasted.
Maybe
it's
down
there
somewhere
I.
Just
don't
remember.
C
Yes,
but
not
there,
oh
see
we
don't
know
when
it
was.
That
would
be
nice
if
they
have
typed
at
the
bottom.
Anyway,
it's
been
a
while
at
the
very
least,
it's
been
a
few
years
before
covid
before
that,
so
three
or
four
years
ago,
probably
at
the
most
and
what
we
wanted
to
do
was
to
go
through
and
look
and
see
if
there's
anything
that
needed
adjusting
or
anyone
had
things
they
wanted
to
comment
or
question
about.
C
So
those
of
you
that
have
already
seen
it
you
can
see.
There
are
several
different
questions
and
comments
that
were
made
here.
C
I'll
just
say
the
ones
I
made
I
started,
reading
it
and
realized
that
right
away
at
the
very
at
the
very
top,
it
says
sustainability,
advisory
committee
for
energy
in
the
environment
at
the
very
top
of
the
page.
You
can't
see
it
right
now,
but
it
there
and
then
down
here
in
this
first
paragraph.
C
It's
show
it's
it's
reduced
to
sustainability,
advisory
committee
and
I
started
thinking
about
that.
Isn't
that
interesting,
and
is
that
a
maybe
a
more
appropriate
description
which
doesn't
name
any
particular
aspect,
just
all
of
sustainability?
That
can
include
anything
from
Green
infrastructure
to
flooding,
resilience
to
energy,
to
table
scraps
any
of
that
stuff,
and
that's
why
I
wondered
if
it
might
not
be
a
good
idea
and
ask
the
question
to
drop
those
particular
terms.
I.
C
Think
Steve,
you
know
had
another
idea
that
it
was
good
to
call
those
out,
but
I
started
with
it
because
there
it
is
in
in
the
actual
bylaws,
where
it's
dropped.
So
are
there
any
thoughts
about
that.
E
But
I've
deferred
anybody,
I've
I've
indicated
a
few
in
the
in
the
in
the
comments
here
and
I
can
I
can
I
can
speak
to
that
if
you
wish
or
or
defer
to
others
who
want
to
comment
to
this
point.
C
Let's
just
see
if
anybody
who
hasn't
written
anything
has
a
comment
Steve
anybody
else
have
any
thoughts
about
the
title
of
the
now
just
to
clarify
too
Kira
looked
for
us
and
and
was
told
that
we
can
approve
changes
to
our
bylaws
ourselves
that
not
but
I
think
the
title
of
the
commission
committee,
whatever
it
it
is
depending
on
where
who
you're
talking
about,
has
to
be
approved
by
city
council
because
of
the
ordinance
that
or
the
resolution
that
named
so
that
part,
we
would
have
to
send
back
to
city
council
to
approve.
C
But
anyway,
does
anyone
have
any
thoughts
about
the
name?
Does
it
matter?
Does
it
not
matter?
What
are
your
thoughts.
H
I
would
say
that
anytime,
you
can
reduce
the
number
of
acronyms
and
letters
within
an
acronym
is
kind
of
nice.
You
know
for
that
reason
alone.
I'd
support,
it
I
think
sustainability
advisory
committee
is
Broad
enough
to
include
almost
anything
we
talk
about
or
have
interest
in,
so
I
would
support.
It.
I
think
the
broad
public
also
understands
that
sustainability
is
Broad
as
well.
They
you
know,
the
only
reason
not
to
would
be
energy
and
environment
is
specific,
but
I
don't
I,
don't
think
it
is
enough
to
keep
it.
C
And
Chris
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
happened
way
back
in
the
day
when
it
started.
What
was
that
2007
or
eight?
There
was
a
huge
emphasis
on
energy
reduction
and
Maggie
Ullman,
who
was
the
sustainability
manager?
I.
Think
that
might
have
been
the
title
at
the
time
was
very
big
on
getting
funding
to
do
a
lot
of
energy
use,
reductions
by
the
city
and
all
over
the
you
know,
street
lights
and
schools,
and
it
was
a
big
effort
and
they
made
a
lot
of
progress.
C
So
I
think
that
might
have
been
initially
the
big
focus
of
the
effort.
So
that
was
another
piece
that
came
to
my
mind.
F
D
C
I
think
it
it
yeah.
It
just
stood
out
to
me
that
it's
like
yeah,
it's
it's.
Why
do
we
call
that
out?
Why
shouldn't
we
call
Food
scraps
out
or
you
know
any
of
these
other
things
we
focus
on.
It
seems
to
me
that
naming
it
as
opposed
to
just
leaving
the
whole
big
umbrella
was
was
a
little
bit
off
and
I
do
think
it's
from
history,
I
think
that
was
the
big
thing
at
the
time.
You're,
probably
aware
of
it
at
the
time,
so
it
might
be.
D
Yeah
I
think:
if
it's
beneficial
to
drop
it,
then
we
should
consider
it
and
if
it
doesn't
really
have
a
bearing
on
our
scope,
then
maybe
keep
it
the
same.
I
A
I
I
think
it's
a
I
think
we
we
do
a
broad
scope
and,
and
and
keeping
that
open,
is,
is
a
good
idea.
If
it's
an
easy
change,
go
for
it.
E
Need
it
no
I
know
you
must
have
been
right.
You
must
be
right
Ann,
but
let
me
let
me
just
say
a
few
a
few
little
things
here.
E
What
one
is
on
your
if
you
could
scroll
where
it's
where
am
is
pointing
out
a
little
up
above
from
where
it's
showing
now
that
it
just
talks
about
sustainability,
I
mean
I,
think
that
I
mean
the
parenthetical
is
Stacy
right
and
and
the
the
name
Stacy
does
come
as
an
indicated
directly
from
the
resolution
which
created
this
committee.
E
So
if
there's
an
important
reason
to
go
back
to
the
city
council
and
say
we
need
to
broaden
things
I'm
all
for
it,
because
I
don't
think
we
should
be
restricted
on
sustainability
issues
having
having
said
that,
you
know
food
scraps,
all
the
other
things
that
I
have
seen
that
we've
been
doing
really
can
come
under
the
rubric
of
environment
as
well
as
energy
and
I.
Don't
see
that
we
are
as
Tim
indicated
or
or
came
on
the
on
the
on
the
one
side
of
it.
I.
E
Don't
think
that
we
have
been
restricted
by
this
and
or
are
restricted
by
having
the
reference
to
energy
in
the
environment
on
it.
So
you
know
these
are
just
words.
We're
gonna
we're
gonna
continue
to
do
what
we
need
to
do.
E
If
you
I,
don't
see
that
we
are
actually
restricted
in
any
ways
the
Practical
matter.
So
this
is
maybe
much
you
do
about
not
very
much.
E
The
one
other
minor
thing
I'd
say
is
that
on
an
article
three
purpose
and
where
you
had
indicated
after
after
suggesting
we
shouldn't,
we
should
only
reference
sustainability.
You
had
inserted
environmental
sustainability
and,
if
we're
going
to
do
that,
I
think
we
we
should
go
back
to
including
energy
environmental
sustainability.
That's
in
the
first
line
of
article
two
purpose,
I
think.
C
I,
don't
know
where
that
I
I
was
cutting
correcting
sustainability
and
that's
what
I
did
environmental
sustainability
because
they
had
sustainable
principles.
That's
a
wrong
term.
It's
a
bad
word.
It
doesn't
make
sense,
you
don't
have
sustainable
principles,
so
I
was
correcting
the
sustainable
principles
to
make
it
accurate.
It's
not
that
right.
Okay,.
E
In
any
event,
you
know
bottom
line
for
me
is
this:
doesn't
I,
don't
think
I,
don't
think
it's
going
to
change
what
we
do
one
way
or
the
other.
If
we,
if
it
people
feel
that
we
want
to
go
back
to
city
council
and
ask
them
to
allow
us
to
change
our
name,
fine
I,
don't
think
it's
I
wouldn't
do
it
I,
don't
think
we
need
to
but
I'm
I'm
good.
F
A
My
perspective
from
someone
who
has
to
do
you
know
a
fair
bit
of
public
engagement
with
our
name.
I
rarely
introduce
myself
as
a
member
of
Stacy,
because
nobody
knows
what
that
means,
and
more
often
I
introduce
myself
as
a
member
of
the
sustainability
advisory
committee
and
even
more
often,
do
not
ever
add
on
verbally
energy
and
environment,
just
because
it's
so
cumbersome.
A
G
Allison
I
also
want
to
concur
I
think
that
even
when
I,
you
know
first
moved
here
and
heard
about
this,
I
was
like
really
is
it
Just
Energy
and
for
a
time
it
did
focus
a
lot
of
energy.
Only
but
I
do
I
agree
with
Chris
that
Simplicity
is
good
and
it
it
is
kind
of
a
mouthful
to
say
sustainability,
advisory
committee
on
energy,
the
environment.
You
know
like
people.
C
I
guess,
because
we
have
to
go
through
this
little
by
little,
there's
only
there's
not
that
many
I
don't
know
that
we're
gonna
have
this
much
conversation
about
the
rest
of
them.
But
do
we
need
to
decide
as
a
group
I
don't
know,
do
we
need
to
vote
Kira?
Do
you
think
that
and
Anna
the
best
way
to
do
it
is
to
get
a
vote
on
this
particular
Park.
C
How
are
we
going
to
separate
okay,
so
are
we
going
to?
Are
we
proposing
to
drop
the
energy
and
environment
piece
out
here?
We
have
to
know
what
we're
going
to
vote
on
at
the
end.
That's
why
I
was
asking
because
there's
going
to
be
other
comments,
other
questions
as
we
go
farther
down,
there'll,
be
other
things
to
agree
or
disagree
about.
C
What
I'm
asking
Chris
yeah
we
could
do
that
at
the
end.
Yes,
that's
what
I'm
asking?
Are
we
yes
or
no
on
changing
it?
That
has
to
be
written
down,
so
we
can
go
forward
and
then,
in
the
end
we
can
vote
that's
what
I'm
getting
at
so
are
we
we
don't
want
otherwise
we're
gonna
have
to
vote
on
every
topic.
That's
what
I
was
getting
now
so
do
we
do
people
think
we
should
take
the
last
part
of
the
scent
of
the
name
out
and
just
leave
it
sac.
A
C
C
G
C
E
I'm
gonna
be
a
good
team
player.
Okay,.
C
E
And
just
and
that
I
take
it.
If
that
happens,
that
would
include
deleting
the
first
line
under
purpose,
energy
and
environmental,
and
we
just
say
sustainability-
is
that
correct.
C
Yeah,
it's
a
very
if
you
read
that
without
my
changes
in
there
is
in
integrating
sustainable
principles,
which
makes
no
sense
to
me.
This
happens
all
the
time
there
are
sustainable
principles
have
nothing
to
do
necessarily
with
sustainability.
They're
principles
that
you
can
sustain
so
I
was
correcting
what
I
see
as
a
wrongly
written
sentence.
E
C
That
would
be
what
we
would
change
it
in
integrating
sustainability
principles
into
City
operations
through
the
following
activities,
and
then
those
were
written
down
again.
These
are
small
edits
just
to
make
it
more
accurate
as
a
or
better
written
or
whatever
the
phrase
might
be.
H
While
you're
doing
that,
I'll
add
that
just
because
we're
talking
about
changing
our
name
doesn't
mean
we
remove
the
words,
energy
and
environment
from
anything
below
it.
You
know
we're
still
going
to
be
doing
it
and
I
think
it's
actually
good
to
include
those
words
because
they're
tag
words
and
you
know
just
because
it's
not
in
our
name
doesn't
mean
we
can't
mention
it
as
our
purpose.
In
my
opinion,.
C
Yeah
I,
don't
know
where
else
it
is
in
there
to
be
honest
with
you,
but
but
sure
I
mean
I,
don't
even
know.
C
C
Sac,
yes
and
Bridget
made
these
comments.
She
did
not
want
it
to
be
stipulated
as
on
July
1st
each
year.
I
think
that's
originally
well,
maybe
is
was
because
of
the
city's
calendar
in
July,
but
she
thought
it
would
be
better
because
people
get
off
at
different
times
like
we're
getting
off
in
January
in
December
that
it
would
better
just
to
have
for
one
year
from
the
time
they
were
elected.
I
C
F
C
C
C
D
C
No
okay,
we're
done
with
that
and
that
oh
there
was
a
comment
in
there.
That
said
something
about
oh
buy.
These
rules
and
I
wondered
what
these
rules
were.
So
I
just
corrected
it
and
said
in
these
bylaws,
unless
there's
otherwise
provided
for
in
these
bylaws
Robert's
Rules
will
govern
all
points
of
order
and
procedure.
I
C
C
Oh
he's
good:
there
you
go
Steve,
oh
this
was
a
conversation
here
about
whether
if
you
have
a
some
kind
of
conflict
of
interest
or
something
that
you
would
make
it
clear
at
the
start
of
the
meeting
that
you
were
going
to
recuse
yourself
from
voting,
because
you
had
a
conflict
of
interest,
I
think
Steve's
thought
was
that
you
should
still
be
allowed
to
participate
in
the
discussion,
because
your
point
of
view
might
have
merits,
and
so
that's
I
think
the
rewriting
that
that
you
did
here
right.
E
I
think
that's
basically
it
I.
The
important
very
important
thing
it
seems
to
me
is
that
if
people
have
a
financial
or
other
personal
interest
in
a
matter
that
it
be
disclosed
up
front
up
front,
it
seems
to
me
doesn't
need
necessarily
need
to
be
at
the
beginning
of
the
whole
meeting
as
a
whole.
E
It
could
be
at
the
just
before
discussion
of
the
particular
agenda
item
if
not
before,
but
in
my
experience
when
folks
have
seemed
to
have
something
of
a
of
an
interest
in
something
having
disclosed
it,
they
nonetheless
may
have
something
useful
to
bring
to
the
discussion
table
and
we
ought
not
to
cut
off.
E
You
know
everything
on
the
table
about
about
what
the
pros
and
cons
of
various
actions
that's
been
my
experience
with,
of
course,
the
important
restriction
that,
once
things
are
discussed
after
having
expressed
where
you're
coming
from
you
can't
vote
on
the
matter,
so
I
think
it's
helpful
to
allow
that
flexibility
for
discussion.
C
I
will
say
that
I
understand
this
is
a
little
slightly
different,
but
it
is
Food.
For
Thought
I
understand
that
state
legislature
passed
a
law
recently
that
says
no
elected
official
can
advocate
for
or
vote
on
any
particular
budget
item.
They
can
vote
on
the
big
picture
budget,
but
not
for
anything
that
they
had
personal
connections
with,
and
this
is
a
little
different
but
I
think
it
has
that
same.
E
C
Cannot
advocate
for
or
vote
on,
and
it's
all
elected
officials
from
my
understanding
throughout
the
state
that
you
cannot
do
that
for
anything
that
you
have
any
you
know,
conflict
of
interest
with
or
special
affinity
for
whatever
the
right
you
know
term
is
that
lawyers
would
use.
So
this
is
a
little
different
from
them
because
we're
not
elected
so
I'm.
Just
throwing
that
out
there
there
and
I
don't
I,
don't
know
what
the
rest
of
y'all
think
at
all.
Anybody
have
any
concerns
or
questions
about
that.
H
No
I
support
this
change.
I
like
the
idea
that
Steve
mentioned
about
being
able
to
participate
in
a
discussion,
but
let's
not
be
able
to
vote.
D
The
change
sounds
reasonable
to
me:
I'm,
not
sure
if
there
are
any
precedents
legally
or
you
know
some
kind
of
case
history
that
would
preclude
discussion,
but
it
sounds
reasonable.
C
C
Okay,
I
guess
we're
gonna
go
with
Steve's
edits.
C
E
If
you
scroll
up
just
for
a
moment
to
just
start
on
the
roll
call,
maybe
we
actually
can
get
rid
of
that
last
sentence.
There.
C
H
A
C
E
C
Yeah
Carrie,
you
could
go
back
to
achieve
for
achieving
and
maintaining
sustainability
just
take
the
rest
of
it
out,
like
you
said,.
E
D
I
I
B
So
I
do
have
a
recommendation
and
chatting
over
here
with
Ben
because
of
the
process
implications
of
the
name.
Change
I,
recommend
that
we
don't
change
it
in
the
bylaws.
It
could
be
a
recommendation
for
pursule,
but
if
we
want
to
approve
the
bylaws,
we
should
not
approve
the
bylaws
with
a
new
name
that
is
not
yet
gone
through
process.
Okay,
I
think.
B
C
E
C
Know,
Steve
I,
don't
think
that
needs
to
be
done,
because
what
we're
doing
is
de-emphasizing
a
particular
part
of
stuff,
even
if
the
name
didn't
change
which
I
don't
see
why
they
would
care
honestly
I,
don't
know
why
they
would
say
no
we're
not
changing
the
name,
but
I.
Don't
think
that
we
should
keep
it
in
there
pers
pursuant
to
them
changing
the
name
of
the
of
the
committee,
and
then
we
got
to
go
back
through
it
and
fix
all
of
that
afterwards.
E
C
Care
all
saying,
if
I'm,
not
if
I'm,
not
misunderstanding,
Kira
and
Ben,
is
that
there
will
be
a
recommendation
through
some
means.
I,
don't
know.
If
Ben
does
it
or
somebody
else
to
city
council
that
we
update
the
name
of
the
committee
to
just
be
sustainability
advisory
committee.
We've
already
updated
our
bylaw.
So
we
don't
have
to
say
that
I
guess,
but
it
just
becomes
now
known
as
sac
and
they're
not
going
to
weigh
in
on
the
bylaws.
Otherwise
right,
Kira
yeah.
B
E
J
That
or
another
person
I'm
not
going
to
have
the
specific
ants
first
of
all,
Ben
Woody
assistant
city
manager.
Thanks
for
letting
me
sit
in
today
and
listen
to
the
conversation,
I
think
everything
that
Karen
Ann
has
said
so
far
is
correct.
J
I
will
say
that,
in
terms
of
the
process
for
initiating
and
changing
your
name,
what
I'll
do
is
so
that
we
have
a
board
that
actually
recently
did
that.
So
the
tree
Commission,
probably
about
three
years
ago,
went
through
the
process
of
changing
their
name
to
the
urban
forestry
commission.
So
there
is
a
precedent
and
example.
J
So
what
I
would
suggest
is
let
Pierre
and
I
go
look
at
how
they
did
that
and
the
steps
that
were
taken
then
maybe
we
can
bring
that
back
to
you
and
then
just
do
the
same
thing:
to
initiate
the
name
change,
because
I
actually
think
when
they
did
the
name
change,
they
may
have
cleaned
up
a
couple
of
elements
of
their
enabling
ordinance
as
well,
but
we
can
get
that
process
for
you
great.
That's.
C
C
So
I
guess
where
we
are
now
is:
we've
agreed
to
whatever
changes
were
on
there
and
people
edited
and
so
forth.
Sometimes
things
that
were
proposed
and
we
now
have
gotten
to
an
agreement
that
we're
happy
with
this
we're
just
waiting
to
update
the
name
of
the
committee
based
on
city
council
votes
be
taken
whenever
that
is
I,
don't
know
when
the
next
opportunity
comes,
but
Ben
and
Kira
will
tell
us
I
guess
the
next
meeting
of
Stacy
won't
be
till
January.
C
What
is
what
is
it
called
when
you
just
put
it?
Stick
it
at
the
front
of
the
meeting
and
it's
like
a.
C
J
C
E
One
last
question:
I'm
sorry,
I'm,
not
sure
I
understand
the
the
last
article
of
the
bylaws
about
when
the
vote
at
which
meeting
the
vote
can
be
taken
to
change
the
bylaws.
We
can
I
just
want
confirmation
that
we
can
make
these
changes
at
this
meeting
and
doesn't
have
to
wait
for
the
next
meeting.
I
B
C
Okay,
is
everybody
all
right
with
that,
and
we
will
also
then
pursue
and
Anna
and
Maya's
absence,
though
you
will
continue
this
and
Ben
and
Kira
will
do
what
needs
to
be
done
relative
to
getting
the
name
to
the
city
council,
the
name,
change
and
I.
Think
that
might
be
completed.
Is
everybody?
Okay?
Now
we're
good
any
other
questions
or
thoughts
or
comments.
A
All
right
item
4B
on
the
agenda:
blue
Horizons
project
fiscal
year,
22
contract
review,
welcome
Jamie.
The
microphone
is
yours,.
L
Hi
everyone
I'm
Jamie
wine
I've
met
some
of
you
before
and
I've
seen
some
of
you
on
the
blue
Horizons
project,
Community
Council
I'm,
here
to
give
an
update
as
a
majority
of
the
funding
for
blue
Horizons
project
and
Energy
Savers
Network,
like
65
75
percent,
comes
from
a
contract
with
the
city.
The
Greenbelt
Alliance
won
a
couple
years
ago,
so
the
weather
they're
related
next
slide.
L
L
So
Greenville
Alliance
is
a
local
non-profit.
We
advance
sustainable
living
through
a
lens
of
Justice
climate
Justice
and
then
collaboration
and
Community
engagement.
So
it's
a
really
good
fit
with
the
blue
Horizons
project,
which
is
to
set
the
course
for
clean
energy
in
Buncombe
County
in
2042..
So
there's
some
photos
here.
The
top
one
is
a
solar
install
for
neighbor
to
neighbor
and
the
bottom
one
is
one
of
our
staff
here,
Hannah
again
doing
some
caulking.
So
let's,
let's
go
to
the
next
slide,
please
so.
L
The
blue
Horizons
project,
I'm
gonna,
start
with
blue
Horizons
and
then
I'll
talk
about
Energy,
Savers
Network,
just
to
kind
of
re-familiar
re-familiar
your
eyes.
All
of
you
about
it
is
the
the
it's.
A
group
effort
and
the
priorities
that
have
been
set
are
to
Green
the
grid,
Electrify
everything
and
embrace
efficiency
and
through
those
three
different
core
objectives.
L
The
people
and
businesses
in
Buncombe,
County
and
city
of
Asheville
will
be
able
to
get
to
100
renewable
energy,
but
it
takes
partnership
with
all
these
groups
with
it
with
the
the
funding
from
the
county
and
the
city,
and
then
we've
got
Duke
Energy
at
the
table
because
without
them
there's
no
way
we're
going
to
be
able
to
Green
the
grid,
and
then
we
do
a
bunch
of
Outreach
was
what
that
photo
was.
So
the
community
council
structure
is
actually
three
or
four
committees.
L
The
membership
committee
is
more
like
a
task
force
that
they
appoint
the
new
members
for
the
following
year
and
the
100
renewable
committee
is
actually
funded.
There's
a
staff
position
on
that
by
the
candida
foundation,
and
so
that's
one
of
those
examples
of
being
able
to
leverage
these
City
funds
to
go,
get
additional
resources
and
then
there's
the
tech
committee
and
the
community
engagement
committee
that
rounded
out.
Let's
go
to
the
next
slide.
L
Please
so
Community
engagement
committee
can
help
set
the
strategy
of
where
we're
going
to
go
and
what
we're
going
to
do
to
do.
Engagement
this
year,
coming
out
of
covid
we're
focusing
really
hard
on
being
out
in
the
community,
going
out
to
festivals
and
fairs
presenting
to
community
groups,
but
then
we
also
do
a
bunch
of
videos
online
still
for
folks
that
aren't
getting
out
and
about,
and
we
have
one-on-one
chats
as
well
with
individual
people
about
their
specific
situation.
L
So
this
year
is
really
focused
on
events
and
Community
engagement
in
our
talks
with
the
city
and
internally,
we're
and
and
with
the
council,
it's
like.
Well,
we
also
need
to
get
commercial
businesses
on
board.
How
do
we
reach
them?
What
does
that
look
like
and
then
it's
a
matter
of?
How
do
you
reach
the
trades
people
to
switch
to
heat
pump,
HVAC
systems,
and
so
things
like
that
are
going
to
be
less
of
events
and
Community
engagement
in
the
future?
L
L
Really
we
focus
on
energy
in
the
built
environment,
and
so
we
have
a
couple
folks
who
are
on
the
blue,
Horizons
Community
Council,
who
work
with
land
of
Sky,
Regional
Council
that
does
a
lot
of
Transportation
stuff
and
so
getting
them
more
engaged
is
one
of
our
our
Foci
this
year
into
the
blue
Horizons
projects
to
make
sure
that
we're
leveraging
all
the
resources
available,
but
yeah
there's
other
options
that
the
technology
the
committee
is
looking
at
and
the
meeting
two
weeks
ago
we
looked
really
deeply
at
heat
pumps
and
how
that
would
look
in
the
Strategic
plan,
so
these
committees
really
interplay
with
each
other.
L
A
lot
next
slide,
please.
So
one
of
the
programs
that
we
do
is
a
custom
Zoom
session
and
we
get
folks
on
the
phone
and
talk
about
their
specific
house,
and
then
we
get
them
engaged
with
other
resources.
These
are
generally
folks
who
are
moderate
to
high
income.
A
lot
of
them
have
already
done
some
green
building
stuff,
but
they're
trying
to
make
sure
they
check
all
the
boxes,
and
this
is
a
great
way
to
answer
people's
questions
more
in
depth.
L
The
staff
here
that
are
working
on
doing
the
Outreach
so
summer
and
I
have
been
talking
about
going
out
into
these
Outreach
events
and
having
volunteers
or
other
helpers,
do
the
Outreach
piece
and
like
doing
live
home
energy
chats
at
the
event,
so
that
we
can
capture
folks
attention
right
away
next
slide,
please
so
neighborhood
neighbor
solar
is
kicking
back
off.
L
We've
got
funding
from
the
city
and
the
county
to
do
16
ish
systems
where
there's
issues
with
supply
chain
stuff,
like
everybody
else,
is
having,
and
so
it
this
number
has
kind
of
flexed
a
little
bit
depending
on
what
how
big
of
a
system
we
can
install
and
what's
going
on
with
with
the
materials
costs,
but
we
hired
sugar,
haulers
Hollow
solar
through
a
competitive
bid,
they're
a
local
solar
installer,
and
this
photo
here
is
of
a
install
at
somebody's
house.
L
Next
slide,
please
so
solarize
is
over
from
last
year
the
systems
have
been
installed
and
it
was
able
to
fund
a
system
at
the
Beloved
Asheville
new
building.
That's
the
building
on
the
right
there.
It's
not
installed
yet
the
photo
on
the
left,
I'm
cheating
a
little
bit.
That's
from
from
Highland
Brewery,
but
the
system
has
is
designed
and
I'm
not
sure
when
it
will
happen,
but
any
day
now
so
it's
exciting
next
slide,
please
we
were
able
to
do
180
systems
and
produce
a
whole
bunch
of
energy.
L
As
you
all
know,
though,
this
is
a
drop
in
the
bucket,
so
we
need
to
keep
pushing
so
we
can
get
as
much
generation
as
we
can
get
locally
next
slide,
please
so
Energy
Savers
network
is
under.
This
is
funded
primarily
by
the
city
and
it's
part
of
the
blue
Horizons
project.
L
There's
like
this
branding
thing,
but
Greenville
Horizons
is
running
both
right,
so
Energy
Savers
has
low
income
upgrades
for
low-income,
Energy
Efficiency
upgrades,
and
it
actually
has
some
wraparound
services
that
are
pretty
cool
that
I'm
going
to
touch
on
later
on
that
provide
low-income
folks
with
even
more
support.
So
let's
go
to
the
next
slide,
please
so
we
do
free
home
energy
upgrades
and
repairs.
We've
never
charged
anybody
any
money,
so
people
initially
are
like
well
wait.
A
second!
Is
this
real?
L
So
a
lot
of
our
our
leads
come
from
Word
of
Mouth
we've
done
about
500
850
homes,
the
there
are
over
18
that
because
we
do
mobile
homes
and
we
do
stick
Built
Homes
they're
about
18
000
mobile
homes
in
Buncombe
County,
so
we
have
a
long
way
to
go,
but
we've
got
a
good
start
next
slide.
Please
there
is
a
income
threshold.
You
have
to
be
under
200
of
federal
poverty
guidelines
but
and
separate
from
the
weatherization
that
are
different
from
the
weatherization
assistant.
L
It's
a
program,
that's
run
by
Community
Action
opportunities.
Those
are
tax
dollars
coming
from
the
federal
government
to
help
low-income
folks,
whether
as
a
home,
they
do.
They
have
a
much
harder
qualification
and
they
do
a
lot
deeper
work
at
people's
houses,
but
they
only
do
like
20
or
30..
So
we're
able
to
serve
a
lot
more
people,
it's
different
programs,
but
we
work
together
to
try
to
serve
as
many
people
as
we
can
next
slide.
Please
there's
a
lot
of
room
for
winning
on
Energy
Efficiency.
L
As
you
all
probably
know,
these
are
the
item
things
that
we
do
in
the
house
as
to
refresh
our
memory.
We
do
air
sealing
so
like
we'll,
take
the
registers
off
and
we'll
seal
inside
the
register,
but
then
we
also
do
custom
built
storm
windows,
seal
around
AC
units
weather
stripping
things
like
that.
We
did
have
funding
from
Red
Cross
to
do
smoke,
alarms
and
carbon
monoxide
detectors
that
has
since
gone
away,
but
the
smoke
detectors
and
carbon
monoxide
detectors
continue
to
be
installed.
L
So
that's
one
of
those
matching
things
that
Greenbelt
Alliance
is
bringing
unrestricted
funds,
because
it's
important
for
the
program
next
slide,
please.
So
we
are
look
at
all
these
great
numbers.
It's
always
good
to
put
numbers
on
a
slide
at
4,
40
PM,
as
you'll
see
things
have
increased.
2020
was
a
bit
of
a
blip
Energy.
Efficiency
is
an
in-person
thing,
so
covid
definitely
affected
it
and
it's
in
2021.
We
we
picked
back
up
and
got
up
to
187
houses.
So
that's
very
it's
very
exciting.
L
L
So
this
is
the
leveraging
opportunities
piece,
so
the
we
do
a
bunch
of
other
stuff
that
fits
into
just
whether
I
think
focuses
homes.
So
I
already
mentioned
Community
Action
opportunities-
and
we
talked
I-
talked
a
bit
about
neighbor
to
neighbor
solar,
but
these
other
ones
down.
Here,
like
the
Dogwood
Health
Trust,
we
were
last
year,
we
were
able
to
secure
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
we're
hoping
to
do
125
next
year
to
do
home
repairs
in
people's
homes.
L
So
when
we
get
in
there,
other
other
places
call
this
pre-weatherization
doing
things
that
help
with
indoor
air
quality
like
air
sealing
like
repairing
drywall,
repairing
roof
leaks.
There's,
as
you
can
see,
there's
like
we
built
this
bridge
to
get
into
this
person's
house
because
they
had
Ada
issues
so
across
the
board,
just
ways
to
improve
People's
Health
at
home.
It's
been
really
exciting
to
do
that,
because
it
improves
people's
lives
much
more
than
just
saving
on
their
energy
bill.
L
It
makes
it
much
more
comfortable
on
their
home
and
it
has
dirt
to
durability
to
the
low-income
folks,
housing,
which
is
always
a
problem.
Getting
getting
repairs
done.
Duke
Energy
gives
us
some
money.
It's
last
year
was
about
eight
thousand
dollars
to
pay
for
some
of
the
incentives
that
we,
some
of
the
items
that
we
install
like
the
water
measures
and
the
light
bulbs.
L
So
we're
trying
to
leverage
that
money
and
tier
two
Energy
Efficiency
is
coming
out
so
that'll
be
like
attic
insulation,
duct
ceiling,
stuff
like
that,
and
so
we're
trying
to
that.
The
dock
has
been
filed
with
the
North
Carolina
Utility
Commission,
but
it
hasn't
been
approved
yet,
and
then
the
city
and
county
have
brought
Opera
funds
to
the
table.
L
That's
where
we
were
able
to
install
some
solar
panels
this
year
and
then
there's
a
HVAC
replacement
and
repair
program
as
well,
where
we're
able
to
install
minutes
so
Mini
Splits,
we're
able
to
repair
some
systems
and
we're
able
to
completely
replace
some
low-income
folks,
HVAC
system.
So
that's
that's
where
the
other
funding
is
coming
from.
It's
these
other
programs
that
are
helping
provide,
wrap
around
services
for
our
clients.
L
H
I
have
a
quick
question:
Jamie
thank
you.
You
mentioned
earlier
about
the
I
think
the
neighbor
to
neighbor
program
you're,
targeting
16
systems
I
believe,
is
that
goal
for
to
be
spent
next
year
or
over
the
next
three
or
four
years.
What's
that
timeline
like.
L
L
20
24.,
okay,
so
it's
over
a
couple
years
and
it's
eight
systems
and
Buncombe
N8
systems
in
Asheville
City,
but
we
when
talking
with
Sugar
Hollow,
they
could
take
more
up
front,
so
we
might
be
able
to
get
it
done
sooner
than
the
end
of
the
contract.
E
Yeah
yeah
a
couple
things
one
is
I
want
to
I,
really
want
to
applaud
your
Community
engagement
efforts
getting
out
to
events
and
the
like.
It's
really
been
amped
up
in
my
experience
over
the
last
year
and
I
hope.
It's
I
hope
it's
yielding
some
fruit.
I
I
wanted
to
ask
you
first,
what,
in
your
opinion,
is
which
which
of
the
Blue
Horizon
Project
Specific
activities
or
events
have
been
the
most
effective
this
past
year
and
along
with
that?
L
So
I'm
I'm
not
sure
about
priors
going
forward,
but
we've
had
some
discussions
because
of
the
efficacy
of
some
of
the
events
or
lack
thereof.
Some
of
the
events
have
been
fantastic
like
we,
we
went
to
like
the
honey
Festival
in
June
on
the
festival
was
bees
and-
and
that
was
amazing
because
we
talked
to
a
ton
of
people,
people
really
cared.
We
went
to
the
sourwood
festival
and
it
was
awful.
It
was
a
lot
of
hours.
L
We
didn't
have
make
a
lot
of
connections
and
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
sign
people
up
to
do.
Energy,
Savers,
Network
or
home
energy
chat,
or
get
them
to
do.
Energy,
Efficiency
programs
that
are
offered
by
Duke
but
yeah
this
hit
or
miss
and
like
goombay
Festival,
was
really
great
the
first
day
and
then
it
rained
for
two
days.
So
you
know
it's
been
really
hit
and
miss.
L
So
we
are
pivoting
now
that
it's
getting
colder
and
there's
fewer
events
into
doing
the
community
presentations,
and
so
we
put
together
a
list
and
we're
gonna
make
phone
calls
and
go
out
and
talk
to
folks.
But
in
that
conversation
it's
kind
of
evolved
where
the
staff
has
has
been-
and
we
haven't-
talked
to
Kira
or
Bridget
about
this.
Yet,
but
we've
started
talking
about
how
do
we
reach
commercial
folks
who
aren't
reached
by
like
the
big
commercial
contractors
like
Honeywell
Johnson
Controls
like
not
Mom
and
Pop
stuff
or
non-profits
or
churches?
L
And
so
what
has
evolved
is
well
what?
If
we
instead
of
going
out
and
giving
presentations
to
organizations,
we
had
like
a
barn,
raising,
Energy
Efficiency
event,
did
some
light
bulbs
and
some
water
measures
at
the
church
or
the
nonprofit,
and
then
try
to
recruit
the
people
that
are
there
to
do
the
Energy
Efficiency
themselves,
because
we'll
recruit
the
volunteers
that
are
at
that
organization
and
so
we're
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
leverage
our
energy
in
doing
the
community
outreach
into
the
most
tangible
results,
because
right
now
we're
counting.
Where
do
we
go?
L
How
many
people
show
up
who
signs
up
for
home
energy
chats
and
it
hasn't
been
great
there?
It
has
been
not
as
fruitful
as
I
had
hoped,
but
being
out
there
getting
the
visibility
getting
our
feet
on
the
ground.
Shaking
hands
has
been
really
helpful
in
getting
the
Layla
land
and
so
in
the
next
six
months.
The
following
Year's
contracts,
I
think
there'll
definitely
be
some
pivots
to
really
focus
in
on
some
some
different
Community
groups
and
some
commercial
efforts.
E
Thank
you.
Good
I
had
Weiler
one
other
quick
one.
You
listed
Duke
Energy
progress
as
being
one
of
the
important
Partners
up
front.
E
I
will
say
you
know,
I
sort
of
I,
sometimes
as
Jamie
knows
periodically
sit
in
one
or
two
committees
here,
and
my
observation
is
that
the
level
of
participation
I
do
with
the
group
has
fallen
off
substantially
since
the
the
days
of
the
energy
innervation
task
force
the
predecessor
to
to
this
and
I
wonder
if
this
has
been
an
issue
or
concern
for
you
all
or
if
I'm
just
mistaken,
and
there
are
there's
and
there's
a
participation
of
support
in
weight
by
Duke
in
ways
that
I'm
unaware.
L
L
I
would
really
like
to
get
folks
that
are
involved
in
the
carbon
plan
and
involved
into
the
integrated
resource
plan,
the
IRP
to
be
on
our
committees,
because
they're,
the
ones
that
are
going
to
be
making
these
large
grid
level
decisions.
We
had
a
so
Lindsay
Lindsay,
she's
she's,
the
daughter
of
the
president
of
Duke
Energy.
What's
her
their
last
name
anyway,
she's
been
volunteering
with
us
on
the
ground,
so
we
set
up
this
thing
to
go,
get
a
get
a
meeting
with
him
and
he's
retiring.
L
So,
like
you
know,
sometimes
you
get
a
break
and
sometimes
it's
not
as
big
of
a
break
as
you're
hoping,
but
getting
so
we
we've
met
one-on-one
with
Duke
and
we've
met
with
the
city
in
the
county,
and
now
it's
like
okay.
Well,
how
do
we
dream
together
going
forward
so
that
we
have
this
better
shared
Vision
to
get
Duke
to
play
more
integrally
into
what
we're
doing?
Otherwise?
It
won't
really
work.
C
C
K
Hi
everybody
thanks
to
Anna
and
Bridget,
for
this
opportunity
to
address
Stacy.
For
now
your
name
may
be
changing
soon
and
thank
you
for
the
important
advice
that
you
give
our
city
council
thanks
to
Kira
and
Allison,
for
help
in
preparing
this
presentation.
My
hope
is
for
Stacy
to
add
sustaining
pollinators
and
biodiversity
to
Asheville's
sustainability
priorities.
K
Thank
you,
I'm
here
today,
as
the
founder
and
director
emerita
of
BCD
USA
and
a
board
member
of
Asheville
GreenWorks.
In
my
background,
I
was
campaign
director
for
Blue
Ridge
forever
and
I
participated
in
nemac's,
Community
resilience
assessment,
I'm,
a
graduate
of
Al
Gore's
climate
reality,
training
and
I've
served
on
a
couple
of
Asheville
commissions,
I
used
to
be
the
director
of
leadership
Asheville.
Those
are
just
some
highlights
on
on
who
I
am
we
bring
flowers
to
funerals?
K
K
K
The
colonists
introduced
honeybees
to
America
the
Americas
in
the
1600s,
but
our
native
bees
and
other
pollinators
were
already
well
established.
They
just
didn't
make
honey
or
wax
the
honeybees
Thrive,
because
they're
generalist
feeders,
unlike
many
of
our
pollinators,
that
are
specialist
feeders
and
there's
20
000
different
species
of
bees
in
the
world.
K
Oh,
these,
lady,
sweat
bees
here
have
really
packed
a
lot
of
pollen
on
their
legs.
It's
the
only
source
of
protein
for
them
and
that's
what
makes
bees
the
most
important
pollinators
in
the
temperate
World
pollen
carries.
The
plant
species
unique
male
DNA,
and
so
that's
why
the
plant
needs
the
bee's
help.
K
Recognizing
the
urgency
we
got
busy
and
we
created
B,
City,
USA
and
I'm
so
proud
to
say
that
in
2012,
our
very
own
city
council
unanimously
passed
the
very
first
resolution
in
the
nation.
Our
mission
is
galvanizing
communities
to
sustain
pollinators
by
increasing
the
abundance
of
native
plants,
providing
Nest
sites
and
reducing
the
use
of
pesticides.
K
K
We
transferred
responsibility
for
our
local
program
from
Public
Works
to
Asheville
GreenWorks
and
then
in
2018
we
merged
V
City
USA
into
the
National
Organization,
the
Xerxes
Society,
with
the
largest
pollinator
conservation
program
in
the
world
in
2021,
we're
very
happy
to
say
that
the
office
of
sustainability
became
the
sponsoring
department
for
Asheville's
BCD
USA
program
and
Kira
became
our
liaison,
and
so
we've
been
celebrating
our
10th
anniversary
all
year.
Long.
K
Thanks
to
the
office
of
sustainability
for
Contracting,
with
Greenworks,
to
do
some
of
this
work,
we're
so
lucky
to
have
Greenworks
leading
Asheville's
program.
We
have
a
leadership
committee.
We
have
events
year
round,
including
pollination
celebration
during
National
pollinator
week
in
June
we
have
a
garden
certification
program
and
we've
already
certified
more
than
150
Gardens
in
our
area.
We
have
a
species
of
plant
species
list
and
support
supplier
list
for
those
plants,
and
we
have
many
many
public
gardens
that
we're
working
on
and
you
can
see
some
of
them
on
the
French
Broad
River
Greenway.
K
As
we've
evolved,
the
commitments
Affiliates
make
have
also
evolved.
Our
original
Focus
was
more
on
European
honeybees,
but
we
soon
realized
our
native
pollinators
needed
much
more
help.
So
when
you
compare
the
original
commitments
with
our
current
commitments,
we've
taken
out
the
beekeeping
ordinance
we've
allowed
cities
to
delegate
responsibility
for
managing
their
obesity
program
to
a
non-profit
like
Asheville
GreenWorks
and
we've
added
the
requirement
that
they
create
their
plant
and
supplier
list
and
create
an
integrated,
Pest
Management
plan
and
then
integrate
those
plans
into
their
Master
plans.
K
K
You
may
have
seen
this
article
in
the
New
York
Times
magazine
in
2018.
It
raised
the
question:
what
is
the
insect
apocalypse
mean
for
the
rest
of
life
on
Earth,
including
humans,.
K
K
We
could
not
have
had
a
better
task
force
for
our
latest
update
for
Asheville's
B
City
plant
list,
which
includes
282
species
of
Wildflower,
shrubs,
trees,
Bunch,
grasses
and
Vines.
Is
it
I
want
you
to
notice
the
column
headings
here?
This
is
just
a
sample
page.
We
have
scientific
and
common
names
when
they
flower
and
maybe
the
most
important
column,
the
value
of
value
value
to
pollinators.
We
have
local
suppliers
who
are
being
very
responsible
with
their
their
Pest
Management.
K
K
We're
grateful
that
the
city
has
committed
to
hiring
an
urban
Forester
and
updated
the
Udo
to
provide
more
tree
protections.
Urban
canopies,
not
only
sequester
carbon
and
cool
heat
Islands
among
some
of
the
some
of
the
things
they
do.
They
also
sustain
pollinators
Greenworks
and
the
urban
Forest
commission's
work
are
important.
We
know
because
of
recent
research
that
female
bees
gather
pollen
from
trees,
even
the
wind
pollinated
ones,
including
pine
trees,
to
supply
vital
protein
to
their
developing
young.
K
K
Trees
are
literally
Meadows
in
the
sky
for
pollinators.
Thousands
of
species
of
pollinators
are
in
on
under
our
trees
year
round
in
various
phases
of
their
life
cycles
or
migration.
It's
a
myth
that
all
pollinators
need
is
pollinator
Gardens.
The
truth
is
wildflowers
are
essential,
but
pollinators
need
lots
more
than
just
wildflowers.
K
K
Even
more
recently,
we
added
the
integrated
Pest
Management
plan
commitment,
and
this
is
a
publication
here,
one
of
many
many
many
Publications
that
Xerxes
does
to
support
this
effort
to
educate
communities
about
Pest
Management.
That
picture
you
see
in
the
center
of
is
of
our
very
own
New
Belgium,
brewery,
landscape.
K
Pest
plants
or
insects
often
become
resistant
to
pesticides
and
become
super
pests.
Agricultural
pesticides
and
mosquito
barrier
spraying
kills
or
harms
non-targeted
insects.
Pesticides
are
sometimes
applied
together
and
or
they
mix
with
other
pesticides
in
the
environment
to
create
entirely
new
chemical
toxins.
But
these
combinations
are
not
tested
on
insects,
pesticides
often
leach
into
the
soil,
water
and
air.
70
percent
of
bees
actually
nest
in
the
ground.
So
it
has
a
direct
impact
on
our
bees,
but
it
also
impacts
all
of
us.
Many
many
pesticides
are
found
in
the
umbilical
cords
of
babies.
K
K
You
can
see
here
the
growth
of
our
leading
insecticide
problem,
the
neonicotinoids
when
it
was
introduced
in
the
1990s
and
then,
when
you
compare
it
with
in
2014
in
this
graph,
you
can
see
that
the
growth
has
been
explosive
and
now
U.S
crops
annually
treated
with
neonits
cover
an
area
equivalent
to
the
state
of
Texas
annually,
but
we
are
using
them
for
landscaping
as
well
and
nobody
is
measuring
that
impact.
K
To
summarize,
if
Asheville
wants
sustainability
and
resilience,
biodiversity
is
key.
Nearly
90
percent
of
flowering
plants
rely
on
pollinators
to
reproduce.
Plant
diversity
depends
on
pollinator
diversity
and
vice
versa.
At
least
a
quarter
of
twenty
thousand
bee
species
specialize
on
very
certain
plant
pollens
and
most
butterflies
and
moths
have
specific
larval
host
plants
native
trees,
shrubs
wildflowers
and
bunch
grasses
support
native
pollinators,
and
they
are
well
adapted
to
local
conditions,
often
requiring
less
pampering
than
exotic
species.
K
So
we
could
think
green,
like
this
metallic
green,
sweat
bee
conserving
pollinators
doesn't
represent
a
large
budget
expenditure
of
rash.
Well,
it's
simply
a
matter
of
planning
and
education.
Sometimes
it's
even
less
expensive
than
conventional
Landscaping.
By
contrast,
not
conserving
pollinators
is
very
costly
due
to
the
impacts
on
food
security
and
the
domino
effect
on
the
loss
of
other
animal
and
plant
species
and
intensification
of
climate
change
impacts.
As
a
result.
K
The
good
news
is
that
we
have
opportunities
for
safe
habitat
literally
in
our
own
backyards.
Almost
50
percent
of
American
landscape
is
in
agriculture
and
most
of
the
rest
is
developed,
but
Urban
and
Suburban
areas
have
the
same
or
more
pollinator
diversity
than
rural
areas,
lawn
and
turf
constitutes
more
than
40
million
Acres.
As
of
2005
in
the
continental
U.S,
and
it's
growing
by
500
000
acres
per
year,
based
on
NASA
data,
75
percent
or
more
of
landscaping,
plants
tend
to
be
exotic,
not
native,
which
Native
pollinators
generally
don't
recognize
as
food
or
habitat.
K
So
what
if
Asheville's
Landscapes
were
more
pollinator
friendly?
Is
it
and
here's
even
more
good
news?
Bee
cities?
Across
America
are
proving
we
can
change
conventional
Landscaping
paradigms,
opportunities
for
cost
savings
and
increasing
habitat
abound.
You
can
reduce
Lawns
and
mowing
frequency
and
expenses
and
energy
emissions
and
increase
healthy
habitat.
We
can
reduce
yard
waste
collections
like
leaves
and
tree
branches
and
increase
healthy
habitat.
We
can
manage
pests
without
pesticides,
and
my
friends
at
Xerxes
have
even
already
offered
to
help
develop
Asheville's
IPM
plan
for
free.
K
With
that
I'll
close
and
invite
questions
either
now
because
I
know
it's
late
or
at
my
emails,
these
needflowers
gmail.com
thanks
Kira.
F
I
have
a
question:
okay,
have
you
done
anything
along
railroad,
size,
embankments,
I,
know
in
Europe,
there's
some
work
that
there's
a
stretch
that
comes
through
our
community
where
they're
planting
grass-
and
it
just
seems
to
me
that
I've
raised
the
issue.
It
does
nothing
for
pollinators
and
they're
pushing
back
that.
It's
the
easiest
way
to
keep
clear
because
of
I
guess
if
they
don't,
the
railroads
will
spray
pesticides
to
keep
it
clear.
F
But
yet
I
bicycle
along
the
railroads
for
miles
on
end
and
I,
see
that
it's
there's
no
grass
on
either
side
of
it.
It's
usually
got
education,
so
I'm
wondering
if
you
have
any
experience
along
the
railroad
embankments.
F
K
Michael
I
love
your
question
and
that's
an
area
of
great
discussion
and
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
work.
That's
already
being
done.
If
you
expand
that
notion
out
to
All
rights
of
way
along
roadsides,
and
just
you
know,
let
your
imagination
go
wild
with
utility
lines.
K
That
sort
of
thing
it
is
a
great
opportunity
for
pollinator
Corridor
habitat,
and
so
there
are
a
number
of
organizations
in
the
country,
including
the
Xerxes
Society,
doing
a
lot
of
work
with
that
and
some
of
our
Affiliates
around
the
country
are
on
board,
definitely
and
are
working
with
their
dots
doing
roadside
work
to
get
the
dot
to
moles,
especially
during
critical
Bloom
times,
for
example,.
F
F
I
have
another
one
of
others.
Don't
you
the
another
issue,
that's
coming
up
in
my
interaction
with
landscape
Architects.
Is
that
they're
saying
that
native
pollinators
are
now
facing
problems
with
climate
variation,
and
so
the
question
is:
when
do
you
think
about
bringing
in
other
than
native
pollinators,
given
the
climate
variability
wondering
if
you
how
you
address
that.
K
That's
a
huge
issue
of
research
and-
and
we
know
that
the
phonology
is
really
wreaking
havoc.
The
plants
are
blooming
at
different
times
than
the
pollinators
are
emerging.
That's
a
fear
we
have,
and
when
you
look
at
that
statistic
about
the
Bumblebees,
they
can
handle
cooler
climates
and
they
come
out
earlier
in
the
morning
and
and
work
later
in
the
day
than
the
honeybees
for
example.
So
they
are
a
real
Bellwether
for
what's
happening
with
climate
change.
K
So
we
don't
really
know
I
mean
it's
all
over
the
map
and
scientists
around
the
world
are
are
dealing
with
that
question.
We
know
that
the
protein
content
of
many
many
flowers
seems
to
be
reducing
as
an
impact
of
climate
change
in
the
pollen.
K
So
it's
it's
just
a
huge
question,
but
in
terms
of
introducing
new
pollinators
to
try
to
keep
up
with
the
changing
climate,
I,
don't
think
anybody's,
suggesting
that
yet
we're
just
trying
to
hang
on
as
many
of
our
pollinators
as
we
can
and
if
we
support
them
by
providing
the
native
plants
that
they're
accustomed
to
and
that
they
co-evolve
with
over
millions
of
years.
That's
our
best
shot.
E
Yeah
Phyllis
I
I
too,
want
to
add
my
many
thanks
for
a
great
presentation
and
for
your
patience
and
waiting
through
all
that
came
before
to
give
it
I
I
should
disclose
that
I
have
a
personal
interest
in
this
matter.
My
wife
and
I
recently
this
spring
be
qualified
our
garden
to
become
a
certified
pollinator
habitat.
Well.
E
Happy
to
do
that
and
when
you
say
every
time
you
say
Buzz
though
I
worried
about
getting
stung
to.
E
Honest
so
my
my
only
I
had
two
questions.
One
is:
where
can
you
get
more
information
about
the
integrated
pollinator
plan
and
two
is
in
general?
Is
there
anything
that
occurs
to
you
that
the
city
of
Asheville
can
be
should
be
anything
more
that
the
city
should
be
doing
at
this
point.
K
Well,
thank
you
for
that
question,
Steve
and
but,
as
I
say,
we're
grateful
to
the
office
of
sustainability
for
giving
Greenworks
a
contract
to
do
some
of
this
work.
Of
course,
it
doesn't
pay
for
all
of
the
work
that
we're
doing
at
Greenworks,
but
we
would
love
to
see
the
city
of
Asheville
come
up
to
speed
with
the
new
commitments
that
other
Affiliates
are
making
across
the
world
to
include
an
IPM
plan
and
to
adopt
the
native
plant
list
or
some
version
of
that
as
the
city.
K
And
so
we
we
continue
to
hope
that
the
city
will
become
interested
in
developing
an
IPM
plan.
That
would
be
huge
and
then
the
city
could
model
the
behavior
that
they
want
the
rest
of
the
community
to
use
on
their
own
city-owned
property.
If
that
were
to
happen.
C
I
have
a
quick
question
Phyllis.
What
is
the
reason,
as
far
as
you
know,
that
protein
content
in
pollen
would
be
going
down
due
to
climate
change?
Is
that
because
they're
stressed
and
they
can't
store
as
much
or
what
what's
the
deal.
K
They
don't
know
this
came
out
of
some
study
in
Asia
and
I
was
at
the
international
national
pollinator
conference
at
UC
Davis
when
the
scientists
announced
that.
So
it's
a
really
new
area
of
research,
but
it
has
something
to
do
with
the
plants
being
under
stress.
Definitely
yeah.
K
Thank
you
and
I
sure
hope
that,
as
Stacy
looks
at
the
broader
issue
of
sustainability,
that
you
will
add
the
commitments
that
the
city
of
Asheville
made
when
it
adopted
that
BCD
USA
resolution
to
Stacy's
priorities
as
well.
K
A
A
Details
on
that
I
think
I've
already
been
sent
out
via
a
calendar.
Invite
and
I
hope
you
all
have
a
wonderful
evening.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
attending.