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B
Thank
you
well
good
afternoon,
I'm
chair
darren
green
I'd
like
to
welcome
you
to
the
january
28
2021
asheville
area
river
redevelopment
commission
meeting
before
we
get
started.
I'd
like
to
welcome
our
newest
and
councilwoman.
We
have,
commissioner.
Today
we
have
commissioner
parker
sloan,
our
newest
buncombe
county
commissioner,
as
well
as
councilwoman
sage
turner,
representing
the
city
of
asheville.
C
D
Well,
yeah,
hey
folks,
good
to
see
you
all
sure
wish
we
were
doing
this
in
person.
I'm
really
excited
to
to
learn
more
about
the
the
history
of
this
group
and,
what's
on
on
your
minds,
I
think
that
that
survey
we
filled
out
and
seeing
those
results
was
was
really
cool
and
really
helpful
for
me
to
help
understand
what
you
know.
D
What
we're
thinking
about
with
with
this
commission
as
it
moves
forward,
but
yeah
I'm
just
really
excited
to
to
be
here
and
yeah
to
improve
our
riverfront
with
all
of
you.
B
Thank
you
and
we'll
go
back
to
councilwoman
turner
when
she,
when
she
logs
on
just
a
quick
reminder
that
the
purpose
of
the
asheville
area
riverfront
redevelopment
commission,
is
to
recommend
to
the
city
and
county
an
overall
policy
for
the
continued
development
and
sustainability
of
the
regional
river
front.
The
commission
provides
recommendations
to
the
city
and
county
for
effective
management
of
the
public
resources
for
the
districts
and
actively
pursues
and
assists
private
sector
investments
in
these
districts.
B
The
commission
is
made
up
of
13
members
representing
the
city
of
asheville,
the
council
of
independent
business
owners,
riverlink
asheville
city
council,
buncombe,
county
commission
and
the
town
of
woodfin.
Our
committees
consist
of
planning
and
design
review,
networking
river
economy,
all
commission
members
and
staff
are
participating
virtually.
We
appreciate
your
patience
as
as
we
work
through
committee
meetings,
a
bit
differently
pursuant
to
the
north
carolina
general
statute,.
B
161668-19.24
f,
this
will
be
a
remote
meeting
which
the
public
can
access
by
any
of
the
following
means.
We
are
streaming
live
on
our
virtual
engagement
hub,
which
is
accessible
through
the
virtual
engagement
hub
link
on
the
front
page
of
the
city
website,
and
also
linked
to
the
committee
page.
We
also
have
an
option
for
the
public
to
listen
live
by
phone
by
calling
855-925-2801.
B
E
E
H
I
K
I'm
not
chair
green.
This
is
staff
steph
munson
doll,
debbie.
There
is,
if
you
hover
your
cursor
over
the
bottom
of
your
screen.
There
should
be
a
microphone
on
the
left
that
you
can
tap
and
untap
to
mute
and
unmute
yourself.
B
Well,
while
we're
waiting,
councilwoman
turner,
I'd
like
you
to
have
an
opportunity
to
say
hello
and
introduce
yourself.
H
Sure,
hello,
everyone
and
thank
you
for
that.
Welcome
it's
a
pleasure
to
be
here.
I,
as
you
know,
I'm
new
to
council
and
new
to
this
commission
and
I'm
excited
to
get
involved.
I've
been
pretty
involved
in
the
city
for
a
while,
particularly
around
downtown.
I
was
recently
chairing
our
downtown
commission
and
been
on
the
commission
for
a
number
of
years
and
I
think
of
downtown
in
a
similar
way.
H
As
I
think
of
the
riverfront,
you
know
bustling
active,
dense
areas
and
I
look
forward
to
getting
more
informed
on
what's
been
happening
and
what
the
plans
are.
I've
been
reading
up
and
I'm
just
excited
to
be
part
of
it.
So
hi
everyone.
B
Okay,
gotcha
all
right
roll
call
is
complete
all
right
to
help
our
audience,
follow
along
I'll
state
each
section
of
the
agenda
aloud
and
do
a
vocal
roll
call
for
each
vote.
Additionally,
I
ask
that
the
committee
members
raise
their
hand
to
speak
or
unmute,
and
I
will
call
upon
you
all
right.
We're
going
into
administrative
items.
B
Did
everyone
have
a
chance
to
review
the
minutes
from
the
from
the
november
meeting?
Wait!
I'm
sorry!
Yes!
From
the
november
meeting.
L
G
B
Thank
you
now,
I'm
going
to
have
to
go
through
the
roll
call
again
and
when
I
say
your
name,
please
say:
hey
irony,
I'm
sorry,
my
internet
is
is
spotty,
so
I
apologize.
E
J
H
G
A
G
H
B
And
I
also
vote
I,
the
minutes
are
approved
all
right.
Moving
on
to
new
business,
we
have
a
design
review
and
a
consideration
for
a
vote.
Regarding
the
alignment
between
the
reverend
grant
southside
center
expansion
with
design
guidelines,
I
believe
steph
or
sasha.
You
are
going
to
present
the
staff
report.
A
B
L
A
You
all
can
hear
me
sounds
like
yes
thank
you,
chair,
green,
my
name's
sasha
vertinsky,
I'm
on
staff
here
planning
in
urban
design.
A
I'm
just
going
to
introduce
this
topic
generally
and
then
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
dorothea
schultz,
with
clark
nixon
architecture
to
go
through
the
project
with
you.
This
is
a
design
review
for
the
grant
center
expansion.
I
think
most
of
you.
Hopefully
all
everyone
knows
the
grant
center
down
on
livingston
street
and
that
space
has
is
a
city
facility,
as
you
know,
and
has
been
planned
to
be
expanded
for
a
number
of
years
and
now
it's.
Finally,
we
finally
have
money
through
our
bond
funding
to
expand
it.
A
A
A
M
Yeah,
hello,
everybody.
I
lost
my
my
mouse
closer
here
for
a
second,
I
apologize,
I'm
dorothy
schwartz,
I'm
architecture
for
clark
nixon
on
the
call
is
also
chad,
roberson,
also
with
clark
nixon
and
I'm
here
to
just
give
you
an
overview
what
we've
planned.
I
will
present
my
screen.
Give
me
a
second
until
I
navigate
there.
A
While
dorothea
does
that,
I
should
sorry
while
dorothea
does
that
I
should
have
also
shared,
I
believe,
pete
wall,
who's
with
parks
and
recreation
and
dustin
clemens
who's
with
capital
projects
are
also
on
the
call
go.
M
A
M
Okay,
pretty
good,
it's
just
confusing.
M
Every
every
program
works
a
little
differently,
so
make
sure
you
see
it
so,
as
sasha
already
explained-
and
I
want
to
repeat
too
much
of
what
you
said-
we're
looking
at
the
expansion
of
the
existing
dr
wesley
grand
senior
southside
community
center,
which
is
the
building
that
can
be
seen
here
in
the
sort
of
like
bird's
eye
view
on
the
left
and
the
addition
that
is
planned
is
to
add
a
large
kind
of
a
gym
with
one
basketball
court
to
have
an
exterior
basketball
court
kind
of
adjacent
to
it
kind
of
around
the
corner
on
the
toward
the
west.
M
We
would
have
kind
of
the
general
support
spaces,
bathroom
office
and
so
on.
Mechanical
spaces,
as
well
as
program
space
for
flexible
programming
and
also
to
the
side,
is
where
the
new
pool
the
new
outdoor
pool
will
be
planned.
The
pool
is
meant
to
be
a
community
pool,
so
it's
mainly
centered
around
kind
of
a
multiple
generation.
M
That
kind
of
connects
the
multitude
of
uses
that
are
happening
on
the
site
and
that
also
features
kind
of
a
stormwater
management
system
that
basically
captures,
for
example,
this
roof
runoff
and
creates
an
inviting
planted
bioswale
with
trees
with
other
features
that
will
get
into
a
little
bit
more
later.
M
We
heavily
looked
at
how
to
integrate
the
new
for
the
new
building
and
the
extension
with
the
existing
building,
so
we're
seeking
not
only
in
kind
of
general
kind
of
massing
and
materiality
to
bring
those
two
together,
so
that
they
really
create
one
hole
and
that
there
is
not
as
much
distinction
between
original
and
and
new
we're
matching
brick
we're
using
metal
wall
panel,
which
also
fits
kind
of
into
the
hose
of
the
materials
where
you
fit
into
kind
of
wider
river
art,
district,
materiality
and
kind
of
slight
industrial
character,
as
well
as
story
characters.
M
We're
matching
materials
such
as
you
know,
window
mullions,
and
then,
when
it
comes
to
certain
kind
of
accents
such
as
this,
we
have
a
one
feature
element
which
is
in
order
to
have
visibility
into
the
neighborhood.
We
really
were
looking
to
have
a
glazed
surface
here
to
the
south,
but
for
not
only
glare,
but
also
for
sustainability.
M
We're
shading
this
with
a
decorative
louvered
sunscreen.
It's
kind
of
an
example
here
of
like
a
typical
kind
of
bluebird
sunscreen.
Here
you
can
optimize
shading
the
site
plan,
it's
fairly
simple,
in
a
sense
that
most
of
the
front
kind
of
phase
the
parking
lot
stays
close
to
where
it
is
right.
Now
we
were
working
to
incorporate
additional
parking
spots
so
that
we
have
you
know
the
desired
capacity
and
also
required
capacity
for
the
facility
for
the
additional
users,
so
we're
adding
some
parking
spaces
to
the
existing.
M
M
M
We've
also
incorporated
some
edible
plants
such
as
service
berries,
and
I
think
blueberry
bushes,
at
this
point,
that
kind
of
tie
into
sustainability
and
community
goals
for
the
city
to
have
those
kinds
of
features.
We're
also
looking
at
some
kind
of
berms
and
hills
kind
of
in
the
sense
of
providing
always
a
little
bit
of
differentiation,
but
also
availability
for
some
seating
at
the
court.
M
Way,
finding
through
a
new
kind
of
sidewalk,
the
current
sidewalk
kind
of
comes
around
the
side
here
and
then
to
connect
with
a
series
of
paths
to
other
activity
areas
into
also
the
sidewalks
neighborhood
at
large
there's
also
sidewalks,
generally
tying
the
building
together
around
egress
doors
and
then,
of
course,
the
pool
area
is
more
off
on
its
own.
Hardly
this
is
due
to
requirements
for
pools
to
be
fenced
in
in
order
to
be
secure
and
to
be
kind
of
like
their
own.
Their
own
areas.
M
Let's
see
there
was
something
else.
Yes,
I
think
some
of
the
elements
that
are
interesting
for
the
cider
is
also
lighting,
so
we
just
kind
of
showed
on
this
feature.
The
types
of
lighting
that
we're
seeking
to
incorporate
the
outdoor
cord,
as
well
as
the
pool,
would
have
a
pole
mounted
led
light
or
also
building
mounted
led
down
lights,
are
designed
to
just
kind
of
achieve
levels
that
allow
you
know
use
of
these
areas.
M
Once
the
sun
goes
down,
there's
some
lighting
bollard
lighting
along
the
main
pathways
to
be
incorporated
just
to
kind
of
light
those
areas
and
make
them
more
friendly
during
the
night
and
also
more
safe
and
then
for
any
other
building
lighting,
that's
for
egress
or
for
just
general
kind
of
area.
Illumination
along
these
egress
paths.
We
have
simple
wall
sconces
that
would
be
placed
around
the
building.
M
If
I
missed
anything,
there's
a
few
kind
of
smaller
features
here
that
were
mentioned,
there's
a
small
kind
of
bridge
for
just
this
storm
swale.
It's
a
little
bit
hard
to
see
here.
We
try
to
get
it
in
there's
a
bit
of
a
seating
element
that
we're
looking
at
and
then
also
potentially
some
kind
of
new
signage
right
at
the
end
store.
That
might
also
include
some
wave
finding
in
order
to
get
to
the
different
users
on
site.
M
I
think
that's
all.
If
you
have
questions,
if
I
missed
something
or
there's
something
in
particular
of
interest,
we
have
more
drawings
and
more
material
and
I'm
happy
to
navigate
there
and
explain
your
work.
B
Thank
you
dorothea.
I
will
open
it
up
for
questions
and
if
you
all
would
like
to
raise
your
hand
or
unmute
I
can.
I
can
call
on
you.
I
G
I
I
I
can
briefly,
we
did
not
have
a
formal
review
of
this
project.
We
had
an
informal
review
and,
like
I
say
we
did
see
an
earlier
project
which
was
much
much
smaller
in
scale
and
we
at
the
time
reviewed
it
and
had
comments
related
to
some
particular
things,
hand,
rails,
lighting,
things
like
that,
but
some
of
which
has
been
addressed
in
this
and
as
staff
presented
to
the
committee,
we
had
questions
that
were
some
of
which
were
addressed.
G
I
appreciate
it
by
dorothea,
I
assume
back
to
us.
You
know
in
regards
particularly
to
the
parking
lot
consideration
and
the
wall
that
was
shown
on
the
floor
plan
on
the
ground
plans
or
that
were
around
the
outdoor
basketball
court
and
those
seem
to
have
gone
away
so
that,
I
think,
was
just
an
error.
Graphic
error.
I
think
what
else
I
know
from
my
perspective.
I
still
have
concerns
about
drainage
there.
There
is
a
and
it
shows
up,
I
think,
dorothea,
on
your
site
plan.
G
There
is
a
was
an
existing
vegetative
swale
that
ran
now.
It
goes
under
the
pool,
the
dotted
line,
that's
shown-
and
I
can't
read
your
drawing
so
but
I'm
concerned
about
that
and
as
to
what
happens
with
the
vegetative
swirl
on
the
water
that
was
conducted
into
that
originally.
G
But
I
think
you
know
other
than
that.
You
know
I
think
they've
and
there
were
some
concerns
about
landscaping
around
both
the
species
selection
of
the
of
the
trees
in
in
junction
with
the
riverfront
district,
where
the
landscaping
was
in
terms
of
parking
and
on
the
pool
side
of
the
facility-
and
you
know,
dorothea
or
and
again
I
apologize
dorothea.
G
G
So
I
don't
know
if
that
helps
them.
You
know,
that's,
I
think,
a
general
review
and
again
we
did
not
have
a
formal
review.
We
had
an
informal
review
on
the
project
came
late
and
we
had
a
little
time
so.
B
Okay,
dorothy:
do
you
want
to
touch
on
anything
to
jane.
H
M
Gladly
yeah,
so
thank
you
jane
for
the
comments
and
and
feedback
for
the
swale
here
we're
fully.
We
fully
understand
that
we're
basically
creating
changes
here,
and
I
also
apologize.
M
So
the
site
plan
kind
of
captures
general
ideas,
but
there
is
still
some
work
that
we're
working
on
as
we
speak
to
just
kind
of
make
sure
we
capture
those.
Yes,
the
pool
goes
over
the
existing
swale
and
we're
basically
working
to
capture
all
of
the
runoff
that
would
have
previously
gone
into
that
swale
and
kind
of
redirected.
We're
also
looking
to
establish
a
new
swale
that
basically
captures
also
the
additional
runoff,
as
well
as
some
of
the
existing
buildings
kind
of
toward
the
low
point
of
the
site
here,
possibly
also
over
here.
M
So,
where
there's
like
a
few
things
in
flux
between
utilities
and
in
storm
water,
but
we're
working
to
resolve
those-
and
you
know
the
addition
of
the
pool
here,
unfortunately
necessitates
some
changes,
but
we're
confident
that
we
can
resolve
all
of
this
and
create
a
good
design
for
the
landscaping.
M
I
I
know
some
specific
species
were
mentioned.
I
know
that
the
landscape
architects
have
worked
to
select
species
that
are
basically
for
the
one
like
a
part
of
the
the
species
that
that
you
would
like
to
see
in
in
this
in
this
area,
but
also
that
can
deal
with
these
fairly
varying
conditions
of
soils,
water,
different
kind
of
like
high
water,
low
water
conditions,
and
we
we're
taking
all
of
the
the
commons
in
consideration
to
fulfill
them
as
good
as
we
can
for
the
design.
M
I
don't
have
the
final
selection
today,
since
we
just
got
those
comments,
but
we
were
working
to
address
all
of
those
and
for
the
pool
side
planting
based
on
what
we
understand.
How
typically
parts
and
wreck
pools
have
certain
needs
for
kind
of
transparency
to
to
the
neighborhoods
or
to
the
dental
parks
area.
We
are
not
planning
on
any
kind
of
screening
or
planting
here,
but
you
cannot
just
kind
of
leave
that
open.
M
F
Yes,
dorothea,
when
we,
of
course,
when
we
did
look
at
the
preliminary
plans,
the
basketball
court
was
the
outdoor
basketball
court
was
proposed
to
have
a
roof
over
it,
and
I
see
you've
removed
you've
taken
that
off.
F
M
M
There
is
a
pavilion
that
also
kind
of
acts
a
little
bit
as
a
backstop
for
kind
of
runaway
balls
in
the
planting
plan,
so
maybe
up
front
before
I
kind
of
go
into
so
many
details,
actually
we're
trying
to
stay
away
from
fencing
or
from
around
around
this
basketball
area,
but
to
rather
have
it
really
be
very
open
and
inviting
to
the
community,
and
then
we
feel
confident
that
between
you
know,
horrendous,
like
you
know,
every
once
in
a
while.
M
I'm
sure
the
ball
might
fall
over
here,
but
it
feels
due
to
the
distances
and
the
little
bit
of
berms.
We
have
on
the
side,
the
plantings
we
have,
that
we
can
kind
of
capture
most
of
those
occurrences
kind
of
as
they
come
through
and
have
like
features
like
this
also
kind
of
put
a
little
bit
of
a
stop
to
that.
M
To
kind
of
balance.
I
guess
the
the
need
for
openness
to
the
community,
especially
on
this
front
edge,
with
with
the
use
that
it
will
have
a
little
bit
of
a
activity
there
and
not
a
little
bit,
but
it
will
have
activity
and
there
will
be
some
balls.
I'm
sure.
D
I
had
a
quick
question.
I
guess.
First
of
all,
I
think
it's
outstanding
that
the
basketball
courts
open
like
that
and
inviting
that's
that's
great.
That's
fantastic!
I'm!
I
guess
maybe
going
back
to
your
overhead
view.
What
help
me
understand
what's
planned
for
the
square
footage
in
between
the
the
gymnasium
and
the
pool
for
that
yeah?
What's
plan
for
that
area,.
D
M
Yeah,
so
basically
the
gymnasium
is
here:
the
outside
court
is
not
shown
on
this
particular
drawing,
but
I'm
just
using
the
floor
plan
so
that
you
can
see
more
so
what's
what's
planned,
it's
mainly
kind
of
support
spaces
here,
so
there's
pool
equipment,
bathrooms
and
office
and
storage
as
well.
As
you
know,
mechanical
room,
I.t
room,
those
kind
of
like
miscellaneous
items
and
then
up
here
at
the
north
we
have
a
program
space,
which
is
a
volume
I
can
kind
of
show
you
also
from
outside.
M
It's
a
little
bit
easier
to
see
from
the
site.
For
example,
it's
kind
of
like
a
more
like
standalone
volume,
which,
how
is
it
you
know
it's
like
programmable
space
and
has
a
divider
in
it
and
different
kind
of
community
uses
it
could
be,
could
be
housed
in
there
and
then,
of
course,
this
area
here
also
becomes
kind
of
the
face
of
the
pool.
So
there's
some
changing
rooms
at
the
entrance
into
the
bathrooms
and
so
on,
and
that's
kind
of
how
this
site
sort
of
plays
out.
D
B
M
So
we
were
not
as
much
charged
with
it
with
a
particular
scope,
and
I
don't
know
if
maybe
somebody
else
like
pete
or
wants
to
kind
of
jump
in
on
that.
I
can
kind
of
give
you.
There
was
a
community
engagement
process
kind
of
before
we
started
where
there
had.
There
had
been
extensive
meetings
with
the
community
to
establish
what
their
needs
were
for
the
site
and
kind
of
early
on.
M
We
were
working
on
kind
of
general
options,
understanding
how
you
know
a
majority
of
those
users
could
be
housed
on
site,
and
I
think
there
have
been
kind
of
there
has
been
some
further
further
reach
out
to
the
parks
department
to
the
community,
but
the
details
I
would
like
to
refer
to
maybe
pete
or
somebody
from
the
parks
department
to.
L
Hey
everybody,
I'm
pete
wahl
parks
department,
so
yeah.
We
had
this
project's,
been
in
the
making
for
over
a
decade
now,
but
the
most
recent
kickoff
of
engagement
around
this
project
was
related
to
the
bond
program,
and
so
this
project
went
through
public
engagement
related
to
the
bond
referendum.
That
happened
in
2016.
B
L
And
so
I
would
use
that
as
an
answer
to
your
question.
The
bond
passed
overwhelmingly
in
support
of
the
project-
and
this
was
one
of
the
bond
projects
that
was
associated
with
that.
L
That's
correct,
yep.
We
we
currently
staff
the
existing
building
and
run
all
the
community
programming
that
goes
on
in
there
today,
which
includes
some
of
the
pods
that
we're
working
with
asheville
city
schools
on
right.
H
B
Neighborhood
great
well,
it
looks
like
a
wonderful
addition
to
the
neighborhood
and
it's
really
a
bridge
between
the
river
arts
district
and
the
south
side
community.
So
I
for
one,
am
excited
to
see
these
runnings
and
and
see
this
exploration,
so
I
think
a
great
job
from
the
architecture
firm
from
all
the
hard
work
that
you
all
have
put
into
it
engaging
with
the
community-
and
I
know,
as
a
commission,
we
certainly
look
forward
to
watching
this
progress.
H
I'd
like
to
make
a
few
this
stage,
so
you
know
this
is
my
first
meeting.
I've
just
got
these
documents
yesterday.
I
did
not
know
about
this
project
so
embarrassed
to
say,
but
also
that
means
that
I
am
just
like
10
times
more
excited,
because
this
is
the
first
time
I've
seen
it.
So
I
think
it's
a
great
project,
design
wise.
I
appreciate
the
careful
walkthrough
I
actually
felt
really
caught
up.
Just
in
that
detail,
I
did
want
to
know
little
things
is
any
of
the
landscaping
edible.
H
M
Some
edible,
we
have,
I
think,
service,
berries
and
blueberries.
At
this
point
there
was
some
concern
to
add
other
items
such
as
I
think
persimmons
might
have
had
something
else
that
keeps
in
mind
right
now,
just
from
because
of
this
kind
of
so
close
to
the
front
into
the
parking
lot
in
order
to
not
have
what's
going
on
a
maintenance
issue,
possibly
so
we're
kind
of
like
focusing
on
the
smaller
ones,
but
yeah.
So
like
we're
incorporating
some
edibles
into
this.
That's
great.
H
I
love
all
the
green
touch
points
too,
and
the
storm
water
and
biospheres
all
it's
all
wonderful.
It's
almost
idealistic,
so
I'm
thrilled
to
hear
it's
even
a
bond
project.
I'm
sorry!
I
don't
know
all
this,
but
it's
I
think
it's
wonderful.
I
was
excited
about
the
programmable
space.
I
heard
mention
of
pods
because
it
sounds
like
there
is
already
some
pods
set
up
here,
so
this
actually
might
help
that
if
that's
the
direction
we
go.
That's
wonderful!
H
L
Design
yeah,
so
we
do
we
do
have,
but
we
do
have
not
a
lunch
program.
I
wouldn't
call
it
lunch
program,
but
for
our
participants
we
do
have
an
opportunity
for
a
room,
but
we
don't
prepare
food
in
the
centers.
H
Yeah
interesting
well,
it
looked
like
there
was.
I
was
kind
of
looking
at
the
parcel
and
looks
like
there's
still
some.
C
H
I
Cameron
green.
I
just
would
like
to
say
that
I,
I
think
we
a
lot
of
I've,
seen
the
plans
in
the
lobby
of
the
green
center
for
a
rent
center
for
a
long
time.
So
it's
great
to
see
something
actually
coming
from
that.
So
thank
you.
H
And
I'd
like
to
ask
one
more
question:
just
because
I'm
new-
and
I
don't
have
the
background,
so
this
must
be
tied
to
why
the
walton
pool
is
being
closed
and
has
there
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
community
opportunity.
It
sound
like
this
is
the
last
review
for
this
project.
Has
the
community
weighed
in
on
the
walton
pool
closing
and
this
being
the
pool
instead.
L
Yeah,
so
we're
again
we're
we
took
this
to
council
in
november
to
add
the
pool
to
this
project
scope
and
at
that
time
staff
did
targeted
outreach
due
to
covet
to
community
stakeholders
about
that
decision,
and
then
our
office
of
equity
and
inclusion
and
our
cape
office
are
working
on
working
with
a
neighborhood
group
to
do
additional
outreach
regarding
specifics
on
the
walton
street
park
site
and
that
focuses
around
recognizing
the
history
of
the
park
and
developing
what
the
community's
vision
for
improvements
in
that
park.
L
D
L
Right
so
we
did
make
improvements
last
summer,
but
right
before
cove,
that
was
in
march,
we
made
some
improvements
to
try
to
get
that
pool
open.
It
is
in
it's
been
past
its
useful
life
for
quite
some
time
now,
and
so
there's
no
plans
for
the
parks
department
to
close
that
pool
until
there's
an
operable
pool
at
the
grant
center.
We
will
probably
anticipate
some
more
repairs
and
sort
of
band-aid
approach
to
the
next
two
seasons.
L
While
we
get
through
this
project
but
yeah,
we
plan
on
opening
that
pool
this
summer,
along
with
our
other
two
pools
this
summer,
we're
working
on
that
plan
right
now.
Thank
you.
Yeah.
B
So
jane
as
the
chair
of
the
design
and
review
committee,
would
you
like
to
make
the
motion
there's
a
copy
of
one
on
the
copy
of
the
staff
report
at
the
bottom
of
the
page.
B
I
I
Usually
when,
when
something
comes
to
us
like
this,
it
has
gone
with
the
usually
a
recommendation
from
the
review
committee,
so
I'm
just
I'm.
I'm
wondering
why
this
seems
to
have
come
through
a
different
way.
I
don't
just
having
trouble
understanding
that.
A
A
The
subsequent
revisions
addressed
those
questions,
but
the
big
addition
was
the
pool
so
the
pool
at
our
last
meeting.
We
really
didn't
have
time
for
a
vote,
and
so
I
think
that's
why
ms
matthews
is
talking
about
it's
not
as
formal.
So
I
guess
that's
where
we
are
today.
G
I
I
would
just
it
came
to
us
very
late
tim
it
didn't.
It
didn't,
allow
us
time
for
any
kind
of
formal
review.
We
also
had
another
project
on
the
dock
at
that
day
already,
so
we
did
not
have
a
formal
review
and
it
was
more
than
just
the
pool
there
was.
There
were
site
changes
as
well,
so.
B
J
My
sense
of
the
consensus
of
that
meeting,
taking
jane's
concerns
in
hand,
was
that
no
one
seemed
to
think
maybe
except
for
jane,
but
maybe
not
that
there
was
no
basis
to
approve.
You
know
there
wasn't
a
basis
to
disapprove
this.
At
this
point
there
were
some
questions
and
some
on
you
know,
some
of
which
were
answered,
but
my
sense
from
everybody.
There
was
that
you
know
it
was
a
project
they
would
still
report
support
so
and
that
in
that
regard,
I
would
make
a
motion
to
approve.
B
L
B
H
H
H
G
B
A
A
It
is
the
parcel
that's
vacant
right
now
across
from
aldi's
across
swananoa
river
road
from
the
walmart
center,
but
across
the
smaller
street
trucker's
place
from
aldi's.
The
committee
had
a
great
discussion
and
really
kind
of
got
into
the
core
issues
of
that
site.
It
is
in
the
floodplain
and
they
have
to
elevate
and
and
I've.
A
Let
the
committee
know
that
there
was
discussion
about
the
orientation
of
the
building
and
the
materials
and
they
were
they
were
proposing
a
long
building
with
very
little
detail,
just
all
metal
paneling
along
swananoa
river
road,
and
I
think,
they're
looking
at
turning
it
so
the
front
doors
facing
swananoa
river
road.
A
But
I
did
notice
on
the
last
site
plan.
I
saw
that
they've
got
some
issues.
They
need
to
go
through
with
staff.
It's
a
level
one
project
and
they've
got
a
they've
got
a
couple.
Big
barriers
they've
got
a
msd
easement
in
the
front
and
power
lines,
so
I
think
they're
going
to
start
their
level
one
process
and
work
some
of
those
details
out
and
then
either
come
back
to
the
committee
or
correspond
with
the
committee
in
some
way.
G
Sure
the
the
applicant
was
really
receptive
to
a
lot
of
review
by
the
committee
that
made
some
suggestions
on
orientation
and,
as
as
sasha
pointed
out,
what
they
came
to
the
commission
committee
with
was
a
building
that
was
a
blank
basically
a
blank
wall
with
utilities
and
exit
door
facing
flying
over
whatever
road
and
the
entrance
kind
of
very
back
in
the
site.
G
So
you
know,
suggestions
were
made
in
realizing
some
of
their
limitations
and
some
of
their
challenges,
and
they
had
actually
previously
looked
at
a
scheme
that
oriented
the
building
and
sasha
said
with
the
front
facing
swan
and
noah.
So
they
they
were
going
to
go
back
and
look
at
that.
They
do
have,
as
sasha
pointed
out
some
challenges
with
landscaping
and
buffering
with
msd
lines
that
run
close
to
the
property
lines.
But
I
think
those
are
things
that
they
can
get.
G
Not
variants
for
but
alternative
compliance
for
some
of
the
landscaping,
but
they
they
made,
they
were
making
some
concessions.
They
came
with
a
pretty
much
standard
developer,
prototype
building,
that
is
in
every
city
across
the
us,
but
they
were
looking
at
taking
the
best
part
of
that
and
and
giving
it
to
the
street,
which
I
think
will
help
help
a
lot
for
compliance,
appreciated
their
willingness
to
work
with
us
and
appreciate.
I
B
I
hope
everyone
had
an
opportunity
to
read
through
the
survey
results
that
we
did
internally
on
our
commission.
Did
everyone
have
an
opportunity
to
glance
through
this?
So
what
I
did
I
actually
went
through
and
kind
of
picked
out.
Some
of
what
I
thought
were
some
key
observations,
but
before
I
kind
of
go
through
those
I'd
like
to
turn
to
councilwoman
turner-
and
hopefully
you
had
an
opportunity
to
read
through
these-
and
my
question
to
you-
is
how
do
these
priorities
align
with
city
council's
anticipated
priorities?
B
I
know
that
you
haven't
had
your
full,
I
guess
strategic
planning
meeting
yet,
but
can
you
give
us
some
insight
and
some
input
as
to
how
you
see
these
kind
of
connecting
with
one
another.
H
H
There's
a
whole
lot
of
process
left
left
to
happen
to
determine
priorities,
but
I
do
sense
that
this
is
a
common
theme,
whether
it
be
the
udo,
the
downtown,
the
riverfront,
the
hotel
moratorium,
there's
a
larger
design,
review
and
updating
of
ordinances,
that
is
I'd,
say,
surfacing
and
has
been
known
for
some
years
and
had
we
not
hit
or
encountered
this
awful
pandemic
and
hit
the
economic
times
that
we
had,
it
probably
would
be
near
the
top
of
the
list.
So
you
know
we
all
need
to
check
in
on
where
that's
at
now.
H
Looking
at
the
other
priorities
I
saw,
I
mean
it
almost
looks
like:
let's
see,
the
economic
value
had
some
strength
behind
it,
but
a
lot
of
them
were
equally
split.
You
know
I
didn't
gain
from
the
conference
of
plan
one
it's
all
kind
of
yeah,
it's
just
a
goal:
the
improvements
to
stormwater
everybody's
goal,
but
it
didn't
sense
from
this.
You
know
how
those
were
ranked.
So
maybe
the
commission
could
fill
me
in
a
little
bit
more.
We
could
come
up
with
a
collective.
H
You
know
this
is
you
know,
maybe
what
some
narrative
around
this?
I
guess
would
be
more
helpful
and
I
would
share
that
with
council,
but
you
know,
I
think,
all
eyes
on
the
river
right
now
it's
one
of
the
reasons
I
wanted
to
get
involved.
H
I
think,
after
the
success
of
rad
tips
and
new
greenway
opening
all
of
the
wonderful
projects
happening,
I
think
we're
going
to
see
a
lot
of
activity
in
the
next
several
years
down
there,
particularly
once
rad
loft
kicks
off,
and
you
know
so
I
think
we
should
you
know
just
I'm
new
here
and
you're,
probably
very
organized
and
have
all
your
goals.
But
I
want
to
say:
let's,
let's
get
collected
and
loud
about
it,
because
what
we
do
now
and
plan
ahead
is
going
to
determine
decades
of
what
this
riverfront
looks
like.
B
B
I'll
keep
going
some
of
the
key
observations
that
I
noticed
I'll
go
through
the
following,
so
like,
like
councilwoman
turner,
suggested
over
75
percent
of
the
commission
still
view
securing
funds
to
update
the
design
guidelines
as
a
top
one
and
two
priority.
B
The
other
point
I
noticed
was
likely
due
to
the
impact
of
covid
and
the
completion
of
the
rad
tip
the
priority
of
the
transportation.
Mobility
is
considered
a
two-three
priority
by
about
fifty
percent
of
the
commission
in
a
level
six
priority.
25
of
the
commission
advocacy
for
improvements
to
storm
water,
water
quality
and
flood
impacts
are
nearly
split
evenly
as
a
priority
by
the
commission.
B
The
question
of
which
of
city
councils
to
better
align
with
the
thing
that
the
subject
that
kept
coming
up
was
equity
and
inclusion,
initiatives
for
the
businesses,
artists,
community
and
surrounding
underserved
neighborhoods
under
the
three
new
ideas
reviewing
the
effects
of
pandemic
and
how
to
best
adapt
advocating
for
the
implementation
of
some
of
the
recommended
improvements
from
the
rad
watershed
study
completed
by
riverlink.
B
B
Share
with
the
city
are
counting
for
the
next
18
months,
redevelopment
of
city-owned
property,
public
art
and
design
guidelines
where
the
top
three
most
recognized
dancers
from
our
group.
Now
I
want
to
throw
it
out
there
to
the
rest
of
the
commission
to
make
any
other
observations
inputs
on
this
priority
on
these
priorities.
D
Darren,
I
don't
know
that
I
wanted
to
go
first,
but
I
I
did
want
to
mention
a
couple
things
about:
sedimentation
erosion,
control
and
construction
related.
D
You
know,
regulations
it's
kind
of
the
purview
of
of
county
government
in
in
this
in
this
area,
and
I
think
I
put
that
down
as
number
one
just
because
that's
where
my
head's
at
on
the
survey
at
least
one
thing
we're
looking
at
we're
in
the
early
stages
with
at
the
county
with
the
staff
level
now
is
to
create
possibly
create
a
french
broad,
french,
broad,
cleanup
task
force.
That
would
be
a
temporary
committee
that
looks
at
runoff
issues.
D
Sediment
erosion,
control
related
to
construction
activities,
as
well
as
runoff
from
septic
and
sewer
and
agricultural
operations
to
to
try
to
get
e
coli
out
of
the
river
and
out
of
the
newspaper,
and
so
we're
looking
to
put
together
a
committee
to
review
all
those
all
of
those
those
challenges
and
provide
back
with
recommendations
to
city,
council
and
and
the
county
commission.
And
I'm
I'm
realizing
here
in
the
moment.
D
Maybe
that's
something
we
bring
back
to
this
group
as
well,
but
that's
something
I'm
excited
to
work
on
and
to
push
forward
and
would
love
your
love
all
of
your
feedback
on
on
that
as
well.
If,
if
and
when
that
committee
gets
gets
formed
so.
B
Yes,
thank
you.
Yes,
please
keep
us
informed
and
I'm
sure
there'd
be
one
or
two
commissioners
who
would
be
willing
to
step
in
and
sit
on
that
in
the
ad
hoc
committee,
if
you're
you're
opening
it
up
to
others.
So
thank
you.
I
I'll
put
my
hand
up
on
that,
I'm
no
longer
on
a
committee,
that's
aarc
and
that's
something
that's
been
important
to
me
for
quite
a
few
years.
I've
been
vocal
about
it,
so
I'm
available
for
that.
B
So
I
know
sage
and
jane
both
raised
your
hands
and
david
brown.
I
don't
know
if
you
raised
it
recently
or
it's
still
up,
but
why
don't
we
start
with
sage
and
then
we'll
go
jane
and
david.
B
H
Oh
sorry,
I
was
also
muted
on
my
phone
commissioner
sloane,
that's
exciting,
to
hear-
and
I
think
it's
the
benefit
of
this
commission-
that
you
have
such
widespread
engagement
across
different
governments,
because
the
city
also
recently
approved
the
idea
of
a
stormwater
task
force
that
you
may
want
to
join
forces
with
or
maybe
more
of
a
collective,
and
maybe
someone
from
this
commission
also
on
there.
But
yeah.
That's
interesting
and
hopeful
and
maybe
talk
about
it
with
large
buildings
and
other
udo
changes
out
there
in
the
county.
G
This
is
jane
matthews.
I
I
wanted
to
comment
on
what
parker
also
said,
and
I
think
it's
really
important.
You
know
that
when
we
look
at
the
design
guidelines
that
we
integrate
into
the
design
guidelines,
the
issues
of
stormwater
control
that
can
be
managed
on
site
better
and
maybe
more
environmentally
stewardship
wise,
and
I
think
that
you
know
that
can
be
done.
You
know,
through
a
design
guideline,
parameter
that
we
don't
currently
have.
That
would
strengthen,
I
think,
the
environmental
treatment
of
water
that
moves
off
of
the
river.
So
thank
you,
parker.
I
B
All
right,
then,
we
will
move
on.
I
know
that
david
chairman,
vice
chairman
brown,
myself
and
steph,
will
be
working
on
an
updated
2021
priorities
to
submit
to
city
council,
so
that
will
be
happening
in
the
next
few
weeks.
K
Yeah
that
that's
right,
as
tim
schaller
said,
we
dissolved
one
committee
last
year.
So
now
you
have
remaining
the
executive
committee
and
the
networking
committee
and
the
design,
planning
and
design
review
committee.
So
we
wanted
to
just
check
in
since
we've
had
some
turn
over
here
to
see
who
today
can
tell
us
that
they
are
not
assigned
to
one
of
those
committees.
H
K
K
And
we
do
just
as
a
reminder:
we
just
still
have
a
vacancy
open
for
the
expired
seat
for
carlton,
collins
and
council
will
be
making
an
appointment
at
first
meeting
in
february.
Perhaps
maybe
second.
K
Okay,
so
thanks
thanks
for
that.
I
know
that
david
and
darren
will
talk
to
all
of
you
about
what
the
committee
work
plan
might
look
like
this
year,
we're
going
to
try
to
heavily
align
committee
work
plans
with
the
priorities
that
you've
discussed
today
and
through
the
survey
and
make
sure
that
everybody
has
something
to
contribute
to
and
or
learn
from
and
participate
in
any
questions
about
that
for
staff
or
david
or
darren.
B
Thanks
dad
I've
turned
my
camera
off.
My
signal
is
so
poor,
so
I'm
trying
to
hold
on
here,
let's
get
into
steph,
let's
get
into
city
staff
updates
sure.
K
I'll
do
some
some
staff
updates.
Let
me
start
with
the
noise
ordinance
I
just
wanted
to.
Let
folks
know
that.
Oh
actually,
I
need
to
get
an
update
on
this
myself,
so
I
know
that
the
public
safety
committee
of
city
council
met
the
other
day
with
staff
and
probably
provided
some
feedback
to
them,
but
the
staff's
current
intention
was
was
to
hold
off
on
implementing
any
changes
to
the
noise
ordinance
till
the
end
of
the
year.
K
So,
while
we
may
have
a
public
hearing
say
in
march,
which
will
give
us
more
time
to
talk
to
a
variety
of
different
stakeholders
that
may
or
may
not
have
participated
in
the
last
couple
years
with
with
the
noise
ordinance
holding
it
off
until
the
end
of
the
year,
will
give
a
lot
of
businesses
who
are
concerned
about
the
impacts
of
the
noise
ordinance
to
them
time
to
think
through
the
implications
and
work
with
the
city
on
that
so,
and
I
think
it
was
interesting.
K
This
morning
I
was
at
a
waba
meeting
west
nashville
business
association,
and
it
was
asked
why
why
are
there
changes
being
made?
And
you
know
for
your
information?
It
is
probably
the
area
we
get
the
most
complaints
about
in
the
city,
so
it's
a
huge
concern
for
a
lot
lots
of
times,
residential
neighborhoods
and
residential
neighbors,
so
something
that
we've
been
working
on
for
a
while,
rad
tip
red
tip
is
closing
up
and,
as
we
mentioned,
we're
going
to
be
having
a
grand
opening.
K
You
all
should
have
received
an
email
from
me
today
or
yesterday.
They're
all
blending
together
about
the
one
month,
long
celebration
that
we're
going
to
have
covet
safe
crowd
sourcing,
some
content,
a
lot
of
it
will
be
video.
It's
self-guided,
it's
going
to
be
a
super
fun
time
where
we
get
to
celebrate
everything
that
the
community
has
done
early
in
the
past
10
years.
K
That's
culminated
with
the
completion
of
this
project,
and
so
we've
got
some
great
partners
on
board
already
like
asheville,
on
bikes,
we're
talking
to
greenworks
and
for
the
wilma
dykman
legacy,
because,
of
course
we're
tying
this
into
wilma,
dykman's
101st
birthday
and
we'll
be
working
with
plenty.
K
Invite
to
you
is,
do
you
or
your
organization
want
to
be
involved?
Somehow?
Would
you
like
to
celebrate
all
that
has
happened,
contact
me
and
we
can
figure
out
a
way
for
you
to
do
that,
so
we're
getting
real,
creative
and
I'll.
Give
you
I'll
give
you
a
sneak
peek,
so
we're
going
to
be
crowdsourcing
a
red
tip
playlist,
so
that
everybody,
when
they're
walking
on
the
greenway
they
can
put
on
some
tunes
and
I'm
sure,
take
me
to
the
river,
probably
both
versions.
K
Maybe
three
versions
will
be
on
there,
so
you
know
you
got
ideas
come
to
me
for
that
and
okay
hotel
moratorium
of
a
big
update
for
you.
That
is
that,
as
you
know,
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
is
going
to
be
having
a
public
hearing
on
the
hotel
development
project
on
wednesday
night.
The
meeting
is
at
5
00
pm
any
of
the
staff
report.
Materials
probably
should
be
up
tomorrow
afternoon
on
planning
and
sony's
website.
That's
part
of
this,
the
city's
websites.
K
You
all
should
know
where
to
find
the
the
map,
but
I'm
looking
and
I'm
like
we
do
have
some
new
people.
I
know
sage
will
know
parker.
You
might
not
know
where
to
find
the
map
that
shows
you
if
it's
small
hotels
or
large
hotels,
allowed
or,
and
also
the
public
benefits
table
which
a
developer
will
have
to
try
to
meet
a
certain
point
of
requirement.
K
They
could
do
so
through
affordable
housing
and
sustainability
and
public
art
and
all
kinds
of
wonderful
things.
They
also
can
lose
points
if
they
displace
businesses
or
demolish
historic
buildings.
So
all
of
the
things
are
available
to
you
and
I
want
you
to
know
how
to
access
them
and
not
have
to
search
through
all
your
emails.
K
So
just
drop
me
a
line
if
you,
if
you
want
to
see
that,
but
the
big
update
is
really
that
staff
has
been
noodling
really
hard
on
the
input
that
we've
got
from
the
downtown
commission
and
from
you
all
to
come
up
with
a
way
that
we
can
satisfy
the
desire
by
the
community
at
large
that
we
have
some
design
processes
for
these
hotels,
no
matter
where
they
are
at
and
also
make
sure
that
we
kind
of
hold
on
to
some
of
the
integrity
of
downtown
and
the
river
and
the
interest.
K
Thank
you
sage.
The
interests
that
are
going
on
there
and
what
we
have
landed
on
as
a
recommendation
to
planning
and
zoning
into
city
council
at
this
point
is,
is
that
we
would
like
for
all
hotels
to
be
reviewed
by
a
joint
committee
of
the
downtown
design
review
committee
and
the
riverfront
design
review
committee.
We
would
like
not
only
that
that
committee
reviews
all
hotels
but
that
they
they
review
all
projects.
K
So
what
this
would
be.
What
this
would
look
like
is
that
you
maintain
your
full
commissions
and
the
full
commissions
are
going
to
review
projects
so
say:
there's
a
hotel
in
the
riverfront
you'll
see
that
first
before
it
goes
to
design
review,
you'll
get
to
be
able
to
you'll
get
a
staff
review
and
you'll
be
able
to
have
conversations
about
anything.
K
So
I
don't
want
to
get
into
too
many
details
because
we
probably
don't
have
time-
and
I
didn't
give
you
any
information
to
discuss
ahead
of
time,
because
this
is
brand
new.
But
I
think
it's
important
that
you
know
and
have
the
opportunity
before
planning
and
zoning
on
wednesday
night
to
think
about
this.
So
we're
going
to
send
you
some
slides
that
outline
what
the
previous
process
for
design
review
was
and
then
outline
what
the
changes
are.
K
You
have
a
lot
of
control,
and
that's
one
point
I
want
to
make
here
is
that
the
say
the
riverfront
commission
will
be
in
charge
of
a
dedicated
of
picking
four
members
and
they
can
be
members
from
the
commission
or
they
can
be
members
from
the
public,
and
that
is
up
to
you
all
to
put
on
this
joint
design
review
committee
downtown
would
have
that
same
ability
and
then
that
design
review
committee
gets
to
pick
together,
the
ninth
member
okay.
K
So
so
I
think
it's
between
I'm
trying
to
see
if
I
have
any
good
points,
so
you
you
get
the
do
the
input
in
advance
and
see
the
project
and
talk
about
it
in
any
way.
K
You
want
you
get
to
appoint
the
people
that
are
on
that
design,
review
committee,
and
then
I
think
one
of
the
other
benefits
I
was
thinking
about
it
is
that
you
were
all
talking,
and
you
mentioned
how
collaborating
with
the
downtown
commission
was
a
priority
and
how,
two
years
ago
we
went
on
a
joint
retreat
with
a
downtown
commission
to
atlanta
and
how
cool
that
was.
K
G
Man,
hi
jay,
so
stephanie,
can
you
explain.
I
mean
this
sounds
like
your
original
proposal
for
a
joint
commission
or
a
joint.
I'm
sorry,
I'm
using
their
term
wrong
joint
committee
designing
like
an
urban
design
review
committee,
and
that
was,
I
thought,
pretty
heavily
negated
by
this
commission
that
we
talked
about
it
and
we
felt
like
we
should
keep
it
a
riverfront
commission,
but
it
sounds
like
you've
gone
right
back
to
what
you
originally
brought
to
us
months
ago.
Is
that
correct.
K
I
can't
tell
you
if
it
sounds
like
that
to
you:
it's
not
what
it
sounds
like
to
me.
What
I
what
I'd
say
to
you
is
that
we
are
trying
to
what
I
said
is
maintain
the
integrity
of
keeping
both
of
the
commissions
and
allowing
you
to
have
control
about
how
that
design
review
is
performed
in
a
little
bit
of
a
different
manner.
K
So
it
definitely
has
some
of
the
same
aspects
of
the
original
proposal
that
we
have,
but
we
have
adjusted
it
so
that
it
also
includes
some
of
the
comments
that
we
heard
both
from
the
downtown
commission
and
from
the
public
and
from
the
riverfront
commission,
which
were
not
all
the
same.
We
did.
We
did
note
that
that
there
was
a
concern.
The
biggest
concern
that
we
heard
was
that
this
commission
wanted
to
be
able
to
review
projects.
G
But
what
I'm
hearing
you
say
I
mean
you
know
we
were
pretty
clear
about
that.
The
priorities
of
the
commission
were
embedded
in
the
design
review
and
now
this
new
committee
has
to
be
embedded
in
both
commissions
in
a
sense
in
terms
of
their
priorities
and
design
which
are
radically
different.
I
mean
they
have
similarities
and
you
know
they've
been
pointed
out.
There
are
some,
you
know
similarities.
It
is
a
growing
development.
G
You
know
community
in
both
areas,
but
they
are
different.
In
my
opinion.
As
an
architect,
you
know
different
design,
standards,
different
design
guidelines
and
maybe
different
ultimate
goals
in
terms
of
what
the
community
needs
versus
you
know,
riverfront
versus
downtown.
So
to
me
they
aren't
the
same
you're.
Just
lumping
two
design
entities
into
one
to
do
both
work
is
what
it
sounds
like.
K
Well,
what
we
really
hope
is
just
as
if
in
the
riverfront,
when
you
review
trucker's
place,
and
you
have
to
look
at
a
design
that
is
for
a
more
industrial
or
modern
industrial
area,
and
you
have
to
consider
the
needs
of
that
community,
which
is
out
on
swannanoa
river
road
versus
looking
at
the
historic
core
of
the
river
arts
district
and
the
traditional
brick
buildings.
K
H
I
was
just
going
to
share.
I
was
going
to
share
this
in
my
update,
so
I'll
just
do
it
now.
Gene
the
same
concern
came
from
the
downtown
commission
and
there
how
we
were
addressing
it,
because
the
downtown
commission
was
reviewing
more
projects.
I
think
and
more
impactful
projects,
and
you
know
we
got
involved
in
all
these
hotels
and
things
and
what
we
ended
up
doing
was
trying
to
separate
within
the
commission
itself,
a
design
review
process
and
a
impact
review
process.
So
we'd
have
two
agenda
items.
H
One
would
be
the
design
review,
we'd,
carry
it
out,
we'd
vote
and
then
we'd
talk
about
impacts
and
we
were
always
a
voluntary
compliance
board.
So
whether
we
voted
down
a
project
or
not,
it
got
to
continue
moving.
So
one
of
the
things
I'm
seeing
could
happen
here
is
that
the
design
review
bodies
can
become
experts
in
the
ordinances
that
we
craft
and
change
and
hopefully
completely
update
this
year.
H
But
then
those
and
my
understanding
is
that
the
downtown
commission
and
assuming
the
riverfront
would
still
hear
those
projects
and
give
that
input
and
stephanie
correct
me.
If
I
am
wrong
about
that,
but
I
did
have
an
update
today.
That
said,
the
downtown
commission
would
continue
to
review
the
project.
It
just
wouldn't
be.
G
Well
to
me
it
seems,
like
I
mean,
if
hotels
were
the
issue
driving
this,
then
it
seemed
to
me
that
it
would
make
some
some
sense
if,
if
they're
in
hotels
in
both
communities
to
have
a
joint
committee
to
review
hotels,
but
what
you
have
expanded
it
to
is
is
everything
which
doesn't
to
me
make
any
sense,
but
a
hotel's
guest.
That
would.
I
could
see
that
that
would
be
a
beneficial
maybe
to
have
both
mines.
G
If
you
need
a
central
core,
you
have
huge
groups
of
people
who
are
embedded
in
thinking
through
design
principles.
Now
you
have
different,
you
know
different
kinds
of
hotels
and
different
places.
You
know
a
downtown
hotel
may
be
different
than
something
that
shows
up
in
the
river
that
shows
up
in
tunnel
road,
but
you
know
it
it's
still.
It
would
be
beneficial
to
have
the
design
minds
together
working
on
those,
if
indeed
that
is
what's
come
out
of
the
one-year
moratorium,
but
to
take
it
further
into
everything.
H
I
appreciate
that
input
and
I
would
welcome
any
of
you.
I
made
this
invitation
to
the
downtown
commission
today
as
well
to
reach
out
to
me
about
this
particular
issue,
because
you
will
hear
in
my
update
that
it
is
coming
very
soon.
Pnz
will
hear
it
on
the
third.
They
will
vote
two
days
later
on
the
fifth.
Then
council
will
hear
it
on
the
ninth
and
then
we
will
vote
due
to
coveted
terms.
We
have
a
delay
in
voting,
so
we
will
vote
on
the
23rd,
but
there
will
be
no
more
hearing
that
day.
H
The
hearing
is
the
ninth
we'll
vote
on
the
23rd
and
that's
the
day
the
moratorium
expires.
So
if
you
have
thoughts
on
this,
please
do
reach
out
to
me.
I
will
advocate
for
these
review
bodies
as
a
downtown
commissioner.
I
felt
that
it
was
depowering
us
and
I
was
concerned
as
well,
and
I'm
happy
to
convey
that
message
to
council.
F
My
question
was
jane
touched
on.
It
was
whether
this
was
just
for
the
hotel
issue
or
was
it
for
all
design,
review
issues
and
it
seems
like
you
are
proposing.
It
would
be
for
all
of
the
design,
review,
issues
or
projects
that
come
out
it
is
I
well
I
I
kind
of
echo
some
other
comments
in
that
you
know
both
the
downtown
commission
and
the
riverfront
commission.
Both
were
opposed
to
this.
F
B
I
C
The
biggest
projects
to
update
you
on
the
moment
are
two
major
greenway
projects:
the
inca
heritage
trail.
That's
part
of
the
inca
record
recreation
destination
project
that
is
moving
along
we're
waiting
for
an
approval,
or
we
were
waiting
for
an
approval
that
I
believe
was
made
by
city
council
on
tuesday
night
for
a
project
near
the
greenway
that'll.
C
Allow
us
to
sign
the
easements
that
we
need
to
begin
the
process
of
design
for
that
we've
got
our
preliminary
feasibility
work
done,
we're
looking
to
move
to
construction
drawings
over
the
next
few
months.
In
conjunction
with
that
project,
we
are
moving
forward
with
the
design
for
the
turfing
at
the
banking
county
sports
park
and
those
facilities.
C
We
anticipate
having
finalized
designs
within
the
next
30
days
and
then
we'll
be
going
through
value
engineering
on
that
to
see
where
we
line
on
cost
with
the
woodphone
project,
the
greenway
we're
working
to
work
through
ncdot's,
new
contracting
procedures
or
a
new
price
list
for
our
design
on
that
project.
So
as
we
continue
to
move
through
that
process,
we're
hoping
to
actually
move
toward
a
more
rapid
continuation
of
that
design
in
the
next
month
or
two.
So
with
that,
I
can
entertain
any
questions.
Anybody
has.
B
All
righty
we're
gonna
go
next
to
any
other
community
updates
christie.
As
the
chair
of
the
networking
committee,
what
what
do
you
have
to
tell
us
today.
E
Well,
I'm
not
getting
out
talking
to
anybody,
but
crime
is
an
issue.
I
was
kind
of
surprised
to
see
that
that
was
not
a
higher
priority,
but
I
guess
we'll
deal
with
that.
As
time
goes
on
and
that's
kind
of
it,
things
are
closed
down
for
now,
but
the
greenway
is
extremely
active
and
everybody
seems
to
be
getting
out
and
and
using
it
when
they
can
and
we'll
just
see
what
happens.
E
But
I
think
that
we
do
have
some
issues
down
there
still
to
deal
with
with
crime
and
just
making
sure
that
the
trash
cans
and
and
all
the
things
that
people
need
are
are
down
there,
but
otherwise
all
good
for
now
very
quiet-
and
I
do
I
do
think
that
the
stormwater
task
force
is
is
a
huge
priority
and
we've
talked
about
that
because
of
course
you
know,
my
street
gets
closed
all
the
time
and
I
think
the
more
that
we
can
work
together
on
that
and
and
clear
that
stuff
up.
E
G
No,
I
think
I
think,
we've
taken
up
most
of
the
meeting
tonight
I
mean
we've
covered
the
things
that
we've
met
about,
and
you
know
I
think
we
you
know.
I
appreciate
you
know
knowing
that
we
might
have
sage
as
a
an
advocate
for
us
in
terms
of
getting
some
professional
guidelines
development
for
this
this
committee,
I
I
think
it
would
be
a
great
help
not
only
to
us
but
to
protecting
what
the
city
has
invested
in
terms
of
millions
of
dollars
on
riverfront.
I
think
that's
always
been.
G
B
Thanks
jane
and
I
would
like
to
add
an
update
from
our
city
councilwoman.
H
Sure
so
we've
been
touching
on
a
few,
I
mentioned
the
stormwater
task
force
that
y'all
should
probably
connect
with.
I
know
stacy
is
undertaking
some
new
kind
of
planning
strategies
as
well.
I
don't
know
if
we
have
a
liaison
to
that,
I'm
on
it,
so
maybe
I'll
be
it,
but
I'm
just
new
there
too,
but
I'll
keep
you
informed
on
their
activities.
H
You
got
the
dates
on
the
moratorium.
You
got
the
details
about
the
committee,
you
know.
One
thing
I
had
thought
of.
I
have
been
pushing
so
hard
for
these
guidelines
for
both
riverfront
and
downtown
that
I
thought
and
I'd
love
to
hear
your
input
on
this.
You
can
reach
out
to
me
you're
just
kind
of
nod.
You
know
what
about.
If
the
guidelines
were
updated,
would
we
feel
better
as
commissions
passing
off?
That
review?
Has
you
know
considering
we
had
input
in
how
they
were
done.
H
You
know,
and
I
I
mentioned
that
early
on
and
I'll
mention
it
again.
I
think
we're
kind
of
getting
down
to
the
deadlines
here,
but
I
do
wonder
and
jane
as
you
reach
out
to
me
and
let
me
know
how
you
feel
about
that.
That
would
be
helpful.
H
Other
big
things
on
our
radar
planning
retreat
so
two
days
in
february,
it'll
be
the
15th
and
16th
and
if
you
have
recommendations,
priorities,
budget
requests
like
medio
and
guidelines,
please
chime
in
then
or
buy
them,
so
we
can
have
them.
I
assume
the
chair
will
kind
of
wrap
that
up
for
you
and
I
think
that
is
it
for
now.
B
D
Yeah
I
mean
I
I'd
echo
that
as
well,
if
I'm
happy
to
do
an
update
every
time
as
I
have
stuff
to
update
folks
on,
but
I
guess
I
just
start
by
saying
you
know
if
you'd
asked
me
what
what
I
thought,
the
most
important
thing
I'd
ever
do
in
life
or
as
an
elected
official.
I
probably
would
have
said
that
the
the
new
buncombe
county,
comprehensive
plan
will
be
the
most
important
thing
I
ever
do
and
that's
probably
going
to
get
overshadowed
by
vaccinating
a
quarter
million
people.
D
So
if
you
do
have
questions
about
the
vaccination
program
or
how
that's
going,
don't
hesitate
to
call
me
email
me
or
shoot
me
a
facebook
message
that
aside,
we
did
send
out
the
county
comprehensive
plan
rfp
yesterday,
and
so
the
the
second
step
in
that
process
will
be
putting
together.
D
Another
committee:
that's
what
we
talk
about.
Isn't
it
a
task
force,
probably
14
member
task
force
for
the
for
the
buncombe
county?
A
steering
committee,
I
think,
is
what
we're
calling
it
a
steering
committee
for
the
the
new
county,
comprehensive
plan
to
really
talk
about.
D
You
know
the
growth
we've
seen
as
an
entire
community
and
and
trying
to
to
get
people
feeling
better
about
a
balance
of
development
and
get
an
understanding
of
you
know
where
we
want
this
community
to
to
go
and
grow
and
where
and
how
we
build
things
and
how
we
want
our
economy
to
expand
from
from
here
as
well.
So,
if
you're
interested
in
that
in
that
task
force,
we
really
need
a
diverse
array
of
expertise
and
backgrounds
and
regions
from
the
county.
D
So
again
again,
like
I
said,
shoot
me
a
facebook,
email
or
phone
call
about
that.
I
think
that's
all
I
wanted
to
say
about
the
the
county,
comprehensive
plan
and
and
hell
looks
like
another
committee,
the
planning
board
the
bunker
county
planning
board.
We
have
three
vacancies
on
that
as
well,
so
we
need
to
appoint
one
person
from
the
city
limits
of
asheville.
D
I
think
at
a
minimum
at
the
moment
to
the
buncombe
county
planning
board
we're
accepting
applications
for
that
through
the
end
of
next
month,
so
yeah,
if,
if
you're
interested
or
know
anyone
interested
in
serving
on
yet
another
board,
don't
hesitate
to
to
reach
out
to
me.
D
This
is
exciting.
I'm
glad
to
be
here
great
to
meet
you
all.
Zoom
is
really
terrible,
but
it's
not
so
bad
when
you
get
to
meet
people
that
you
haven't
seen
in
a
long
time
or
or
have
never
met
before
at
all
so
great
to
be
here.
B
Thank
you.
We're
really
happy
to
have
you
and
councilwoman
turner
as
our
new
liaisons
steph.
Let's
move
to
the
public
go
ahead.
H
B
Steph
was
there
any
public
comment.