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B
Environment
good
afternoon,
everyone
I
am
chair
and
a
priest,
and
I
would
like
to
welcome
you
all
to
the
sustainability
advisory
committee
on
energy
environment
because
amber
just
said
that
thank
you
amber.
Our
committee
is
comprised
of
one
two
three
four,
five,
six,
seven,
eight
nine
board
members
and
we
also
have
three
staff
members
joining
us
today
as
well.
B
B
So
for
those
of
you
who
are
out
there
with
us
today,
thank
you
for
joining
us
and
welcome
so
I'll
now
go
through
and
introduce
all
the
committee
members
who
are
participating
virtually
and
please
make
sure
to
keep
your
microphones
on
mute.
If
you're,
not
speaking,
and
if
you
have
a
question
or
would
like
to
speak,
please
unmute
your
microphone.
B
B
B
B
B
Awesome,
thank
you,
keith,
and
I
will
just
go
through
the
list
again
and
you
can
tell
me
if
you
approve
with
an
I
or
a
nay,
kim
austin
hi
tim.
C
G
B
H
B
B
Thank
you
amber
okay,
so
item
number
three
on
the
agenda
is:
updates
we're
gonna
get
updates
from
each
of
our
working
groups.
The
first
group
is
the
energy
group,
hoping
that
chris
was
going
to
give
us
a
quick
update,
but
from
what
I
understand,
steve
you've
been
attending
these
meetings
as
well.
Would
you
be
willing
to
give
us
a
update
on
the
blue
horizons
project.
H
I
don't
know
how
much
I'm
muting
will
add,
but
yes,
I
can.
I
can.
I
think
I
can
at
least
contribute
in
part,
maybe
keith,
if
you
have
anything
to
follow
up
with.
That
would
be
great,
and
if
I
can
procrastinate
long
enough,
maybe
chris
will
show
up.
I,
the
the
main
thing
that
comes
to
mind,
for
me
is
the
a
couple
of
things.
H
One
is
that
the
there's
been
a
newly
formed
working
blue
horizons
committee
subcommittee,
the
strategic
planning
group,
and
they
have
been
working
on
trying
to
focus
on
concrete
tasks
that
the
blue
horizons
group
can
undertake
to
move
forward
on
the
community-wide
goal
to
the
goal
to
achieve
community-wide
and
in
this
instance
it's
not
just
city
but
county-wide
goal
of
100
renewable
energy,
and
most
of
that
most
of
the
effort
thus
far
has
been
trying
to
get
a
baseline
to
identify
who
what
the
various
sectors
in
the
area,
what
kind
of
energy
consumption
there
has
been
and
the
focus
is
now
turning
to
what
concretely
can
be
done.
H
One
on
on
that
last
point:
one
of
the
discussions
that's
been
occurring
in
the
tech
group
committee
is
the
possibility
of
a
heat
pump
initiative
in
which
the
tech
committee
would
work,
incl,
first
information
gathering
and
then
work
in
collaboration
with
perhaps
high
efficiency,
heat
pump,
hvac
manufacturers
and
vendors
to
provide
information
to
customers
and
and
to
promote
high
efficiency
systems.
H
That's
under
discussion,
there's
sort
of
another
initiative,
that's
underway,
that
overlaps
in
part
part
of
the
I
should
back
up
part
of
the
reason
for
this
initiative
is
that
there's
been
a
growing
understanding
that
it
appears
that
a
number
of
a
good
number
of
those
in
who
who
of
vendors
and
to
some
extent
manufacturers,
don't
fully
appreciate
the
efficiencies
and
benefits
cost
benefits
of
high
efficiency,
hvac
systems.
So
that's
sort
of
what
got
things
started
as
a
as
a
step.
H
The
the
related
piece
is
that
the
there
is
a
group
called
the
energy
savers
network
that
works
in
conjunction
with
green
built
alliance
and
brad
rouse
is
working
on
an
initiative
to
try
to
get
funding
for
repairing
or
installing
new
high
efficiency
heat
pumps
in
in
some
low
income.
A
number
of
low-income
homes
in
the
city
and
I've
been
talking
to
him
about
the
possibility
of
joining
the
two
initiatives.
H
If
we
go
forward-
and
maybe
I
know
the
city
historically
has
provided
some
funding
for
that-
maybe
providing
some
kind
of
recommendation
and
boost
to
that
effort
as
well.
So
that's
what
comes
to
mind
for
me.
I
don't
know
keith,
I
don't
know
if
you
have
anything
more,
you
wanted
to.
G
And
the
solarize
program
is
up
and
running
and
has
been
overly
successful.
You
could
say
very
successful
and
I
think
lots
of
people
are
signing
up
and
participating
and
they
have-
and
you
probably
have
heard
they
have
two
vendors-
and
we
went
into
some
detail
on
this
before
but
they're
moving
forward
and
I
think
they're
locked
in
at
the
lowest
rate
possible,
there's
continuing
to
sign
people
up
and
I
don't
have
the
details
on
the
the
energy
that
will
be
produced
through
this
initiative.
G
Thus
far,
but
I
I
know
it's
steve,
you
might
have
more
details
on
that.
H
Yeah
I
well,
I
think
there
are,
I
think
there
are
over
500
sign
ups
and
the
the
hope
is
that
this
it
will
add
up
to
a
capacity
of
like
over
600
kilowatts
or
0.6
megawatts,
which
is
which
is
far
more
successful
than
than
they
had
hoped
at
the
beginning,
and
I
should
add
that
the
the
energy
savers
group
on
heat
pumps
is
sort
of
look,
has
sort
of
looked
to
solarize
and
is
in
talks,
I
think,
maybe
with
mitsubishi
about
whether
a
similar
bulk
pipe
bulk
buying
program
could
be
implemented
for
heat
pumps.
G
And
there's
also
an
equity
component
with
the
neighbor
to
neighbor
low
to
middle
income
program
where
they
and
where
they're,
connecting
with
folks
and
getting
folks
set
up,
who
are
not
necessarily
in
the
highest
income
bracket.
And
so
that's
really
positive
steve.
I
don't
know
if
we
want
to
also
mention-
and
maybe
we
won't
mention
in
any
detail
but
the
micro
grid
group
and
and
that
got
started.
G
We
met
with
a
micro
grid
group
who
some
of
you
may
have
interacted
with
in
other
ways,
but
they
they've
also
proposed
something
to
the
city
and
proposed
something
to
blue
horizons
group
to
have
an
essential
services,
microgrid
downtown
and
I
think
they're
still
in
the
process
of
figuring
out
where
and
how
that
might
happen
and
and
beginning
to
do.
The
assessments,
along
with
a
group
from
unc
asheville,
more
details
than
that
steve.
No.
G
And
one
other
thing
that
you
will
probably
see
from
our
group
in
the
near
future
is
we
met.
Recently.
We
met
with
a
audubon
student
group
student
and
faculty
group
from
unca
and
and
broader
from
asheville,
who
are
proposing
a
lights
out
policy
initiative
that
that
will
aim
to
protect
birds
and
we
we
are
in
the
process
of
working
with
them
on
honing
in
what
that
might
look
like
and
bringing
it
to
the
larger
group
at
some
point
down
the
road
when
it's
ready
so
or
when.
H
B
Awesome.
Thank
you
for
that
update.
That's
super
important.
I
know
I've
been
I've
participated
in
the
solarize
actual
program,
I'm
not
to
the
point
where
I'm
ready
to
buy
yet,
but
I
called
them
and
we
did
a
meeting
actually
this
morning
it
was
super
informative.
So
I
encourage
everyone
else
on
it's
listening
in
to
you
know
see
what
kind
of
deals
you
can
get
and
yeah
I'm
really
excited
about
it.
Glad
to
hear
that
it's
been
so
successful
for
our
community.
B
We're
going
to
jump
down
to
the
resiliency
group,
because
anne
has
to
leave
early
today,
so
I
hope
you
don't
mind:
allison
we're
going
to
jump
to
going
over
the
municipal
climate
action
plan
with
ann
keller.
Take
it
away.
F
Oh,
thank
you
very
much
anna.
F
I
think
that
once
I
give
a
little
intro
here,
amber's
gonna
put
in
some
more
details
because
the
city
has
made
some
decisions,
but
the
resiliency
subgroup
that,
in
this
part,
was
tim,
foreman
and
myself
kim
didn't
review
these.
As
I
recall,
we've
reviewed
two
responses
to
the
city
of
asheville's
call
for
proposals
for
developing
a
municipal
action
plan
for
the
city,
and
this
was
in
the
first
week
or
so
of
may.
F
If
I
remember
right,
there
were
several
proposals,
some
of
which
didn't
meet
the
required
equity
components
as
well
as
the
rfp
being
submitted,
and
so
in
the
end
we
reviewed
two
of
them
from
energetics
and
aecom
and
aecom
has
as
one
of
its
partners
fern
leaf,
which
is
here
in
town.
Many
of
you
have
worked
or
know
them
worked
with
them
so
there
that
was
a
really
nice
thing
and
they
just
seemed
to
tim
and
me.
I
think
both
the
the
better
competitor
of
the
two
that
we
were
able
to
review.
F
They
were
selected,
and
do
you
want
to
the
general
idea,
is
to
put
all
these
resolutions
and
the
sustainability
city
sustainability
plan
and
other
things
together,
weave
them
in
try
to
figure
out
how
to
prioritize
them,
connect
them
to
where
funding
sources
might
be
within
the
city,
so
that,
instead
of
just
you
know
all
these
sort
of
things
being
out
there
and
not
coordinated
that
there
would
be
some
some
ability
to
decide
where
which
ones
to
pick
next
and
how
to
how
to
come
up
with
the
funding.
For
that
amber.
A
Sure,
thanks
ann,
I
think
you
did
a
great
job,
giving
a
high
level
overview.
I
believe
that
kyra
is
pulling
up
the
staff
report
and
there's
also
a
link
that
is
broken
or
I
shouldn't
say
broken,
but
one
of
the
links
to
the
agenda
is
incorrect.
So
the
staff
report
is
in
your
sustainability
advisory
committee
folder
for
your
review.
Hopefully
you
were
able
to
find
that,
and
it
does
give
a
little
more
detail
that
we
provided
to
city
council
on
this
effort.
A
So
for
many
of
you
that
have
been
committee
members
for
some
time,
you'll
recall
that
both
in
the
100
renewable
energy
goal,
as
well
as
the
climate
action
plan
and
even
if
or
the
climate
emergency
excuse
me
and
even
if
you've
been
here
a
bit
longer.
This
has
been
the
intentions
of
the
office
for
some
time
to
bring
together
all
of
council's
sustainability
goals.
So,
as
you
know,
we
work
with
waste
reduction,
food
policy,
renewable
energy,
energy
efficiency,
carbon
mitigation,
climate,
as
well
as
equity
in
climate
justice.
A
So
this
is
an
opportunity
to
review
all
of
the
resolutions
that
have
been
passed
by
council
and
look
at
the
2009
sustainability
management
plan
to
be
able
to
update
these
items
and
find
the
most
high
impact
projects
that
are
helping
to
fulfill
the
goals
and
the
two
buckets.
I
think
that
we
can
look
at
are
carbon
mitigation
and
climate
resiliency.
A
What
is
going,
what
projects
are
going
to
get
us
to
the
goal
line
and
how
much
do
they
cost?
So,
when
we
are
speaking
to
council
about
facility
needs
and
just
the
needs
in
general
of
the
city,
we'll
have
figures
and
possible
accidents
to
bring
forth
to
them.
So
they
can
think
about
how
they
would
like
to
plan
for
budgeting
in
the.
A
A
Yes,
the
aecom
proposal
proposes
that
they
need
32
weeks
to
begin
this
project
to
finish
and
because
we're
up
against
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year,
it
won't
be.
It
won't
begin
until
july,
2021
we're
presently
working
on
getting
the
contract
documents
ready.
So
when
the
new
fiscal
year
opens
we'll
be
able
to
move
the
contract
forward,.
G
I
have
a
few
questions
quickly.
I
think
I
think
there
are
quick
questions.
One
is:
is
it
a
2030
time
frame
for
the
plan
itself
and
given
given
that's
a
time
frame,
or
does
it
go
beyond
that
and.
A
Let
me
answer
your
questions,
one
by
one
yeah,
one
by
one,
that's
better,
so
that
is
yet
to
be
seen
because
right
now
we're
trying
to
gather
all
the
resolutions
when
all
the
resolutions
have
different
timelines
and
figure
out
what
is
what
is
achievable
by
the
date
set.
So
you
know
if
it's.
If
the
timeline
for
the
renewable
energy
goals
2030,
then
they're
going
to
be
providing
information
on
how
to
achieve
that
by
that
time,
in
the
cost.
G
Thanks
and
my
next
question
is
related
and
it's
about
the
comprehensive
plan
I
didn't
see
that
mentioned
in
their
materials
and
I'm
just
wondering-
is
there
a
plan
to
also
integrate
all
these
ideas
and
plans
with
the
comprehensive
plan.
A
That
is
a
great
question.
What
I
can
tell
you
is
that
the
staff
from
planning
and
urban
design
will
be
a
part
of
this
committee.
This
internal
committee
that's
being
put
together
to
work
on
the
plan.
I
know
that
the
rfp
did
reference
the
city's
comprehensive
plan.
However,
I
would
say
this
is
really.
A
G
Great
thanks
and
I
see
that
this
was
funded.
So
congratulations
that's
very
exciting,
but
it
also
makes
me
wonder
about
the
waste
plan.
Did
that
get
funded.
H
Hello,
I
had
a
couple
thoughts
and
questions.
First
of
all,
I
think
I
think
this
is
really
a
great
great
idea
to
do
this:
consolidation
and
collaboration
and
and
prioritize
what
the
high
impact
projects
should
be
for
reaching
our
various
climate
goals.
H
And
what
do
I
know,
but
it
strikes
me
that
seven
months
is
an
awfully
aggressive
timeline
to
to
accomplish
all
of
this.
So
I.
D
See
that
I
see
that
in
the.
H
In
the
proposal
by
acom
that
that
they
are
going
to
be,
it
will
be
intend
to
present
rust
as
part
of
their
step,
two
engagement
to
get
our
thoughts
on
prioritization,
and
I
would
very
much
look
forward
to
that
and
I
would
hope
this
is
anticipatory.
H
But
I
would
hope
that
that
would
not
necessarily
be
the
end
of
our
participation
that,
when,
at
the
actual
development
of
the
roadmap
and
priorities
were
being
made,
that
we
could
have
continued
to
have
input
in
helping
shape
and
develop
what
the
roadmap
and
the
priorities
will
actually
be.
So
I
let
me
pause,
I
hope
that's.
A
A
Secondly,
I
felt
it
was
very
important
that
the
sustainability
advisory
committee
be
a
part
of
this
process,
because
one
most
of
the
resolutions
passed
have
come
through
the
sustainability
advisory
committee
and
been
made
recommendations
for
adoption
by
council
two.
I
think
it's
important
to
have
you
all
part
of
the
process,
because
you
advise
counsel-
and
I
think
whatever
this
end
product
looks
like-
will
need
to
be
supported
by
the
sustainability
advisory
committee.
A
So
I
think
that,
although
the
consultant
has
stated
exactly
you
know
for
many
as
consultants,
do
they
let
you
know
how
much
time
you're
going
to
receive.
So
I
think
that
if
there
is
more
that
the
sustainability
advisory
committee
would
like
to
say,
there
will
be
opportunities
to
be
able
to
communicate
that
with
the
resilience,
work
group
and
the
work
and
then
the
point
contact
there
can
work
one-on-one
with
our
office,
and
I
think
that
that
should
also
help
to
keep
it
streamlined
as
well.
H
No,
you
missed
the
one
that
I
haven't
made
yet.
The
last
observation
I
had
was
that
I
noticed
that
the
you
know
the
resolution
explicitly
mentions
on
this
is
on
the
100
renewable
energy
goal,
the
goal
to
achieve
by
2030
100
renewable
energy
for
municipal
operations
on
this
sort
of
goat.
This
comment
sort
of
goes
to
keith's
question
about
you
know
what
what
goals
are
we
reaching
and
what's
the
timeline?
H
The
the
the
the
resolution
also
does
mention
and
incorporate
the
climate
emergency
resolution
and
as
part
of
that,
the
there
is
a
goal,
also
a
2030
goal
to
obtain
community-wide
city-wide
100
renewable
energy,
which,
along
with
the
city's
support
of
the
counties
community-wide
100
renewable
energy
gold.
H
And
so
that
was
just
a
comment:
it
doesn't
there
wasn't
an
explicit
mention
of
community-wide
renewable
energy
goals,
but
those,
I
think
are,
I
hope,
are
going
to
be
really
high
prior
high
priority
on
the
on
this
exercise.
A
Right-
and
one
of
the
reasons
why
you
don't
see
it
mentioned
is
because
this
is
for
municipal
operations,
so
it
is
what
we
need
to
do
as
a
city
to
be
able
to
achieve
the
goals
that
we
committed
for
municipal
operations,
which
is
a
part
of
the
community-wide
goal.
However,.
H
Yeah,
I'm
you
need
to
help
me
understand
because
I
may
be
confused,
but
the
client,
my
recollection,
is
that
the
climate
emergency
resolution
stated
as
a
goal
not
just
100
renewable
energy
from
municipal
operations,
but
also
to
the
extent
possible,
with
assistance
from
state
and
regular
state
and
federal
regulatory
assistance,
but
also
city-wide
100
renewable
energy,
which
I
interpreted
to
mean
not
just
city
operations
themselves,
but
our
our
the
city
community.
People
who
live
here
is
that
a
misunderstanding.
H
And,
and
will
this
this
climate
action
plan
will
be
broad
enough
to
encompass
and
set
priorities
to
achieve
help
achieve
move
forward
to
that
larger
goal?
Not
just
municipal
operations.
H
A
A
A
A
F
A
I
think
that
there's
there's
multiple
reasons
I
think
just
yes,
and
that
is
one
of
the
reasons.
Another
one
of
the
reasons
is
to
move
it
to
a
non-profit
is
so
there
could
be
more
fundraising
and
flexibility
outside
of
government
control.
A
So
what
the
way
it
is
set
up
and
what
we
have
done
is,
as
I,
as
many
of
you
have
heard
me
say
before,
is
similar
to
florida
and
minneap
minneapolis
is
that
the
city
and
the
county
contribute
funds
to
support
the
work
plan
of
the
blue
horizons
project
community
council.
The
work
plan
of
the
blue
horizons
project
community
council
should
be
focused
on
at
all
times,
really
implementing
the
community-wide
goal.
D
Great
thanks,
anna
and
I'll
mention
that
the
waste
reduction
group
deals
with
all
kinds
of
solid
waste,
including
food
waste,
as
well
as
solid
waste
in
the
form
of
recycling,
landfill
and
composting.
D
So
you
may
recall
that
we
pot
we
passed
a
resolution
to
dedicate
april
as
food
waste
reduction
month,
so
that
happened
and
in
april
we
had
many
celebrations
and
a
social
media
campaign.
The
save
the
food
campaign,
so
maggie
gulick
is
the
other
person
well,
maggie
and
kim
are
both
on
this
subcommittee.
The
the
waste
reduction
subcommittee
so
maggie
might
want
to
chime
in
a
little
bit
as
well.
D
E
Thanks
allison
yep
problem:
okay.
Well,
so
the
food
waste
challenge
was
conceived
by
the
western
north
carolina
food
waste
solutions
group
and
it's
a
it's
a
group
of
people
that
are
part
of
the
yeah
allison's,
just
shared
the
website
there.
E
It's
a
basically
a
coalition
of
people
who
are
involved
in
the
food
policy
council,
various
groups
like
bountiful
cities
and
food
connections
and
mana
food
bank,
and
it's
it's
essentially
a
community
of
volunteers,
of
which
I
am
a
part,
and
so
we
put
together
this
food
waste
challenge,
which
was
just
to
sort
of
promote
food
waste
reduction
month
and
as
allison
mentioned,
there
were
a
lot
of
activities,
including
some
food
waste
audits
conducted
at
several
rec
centers
around
the
city
work
around
a
food
scrap
waste
site
or
collection
site.
E
I
should
say
let
me
look
at
my
notes
before
I
ramble
on.
E
D
Website
for
people
who
are
listening,
it's
wnc
food
waste,
dot
org.
So
you
can
check
out
the
website
for
more
details
and
also
we
had
a
lot
on
social
media.
So.
E
I
will
I'll
just
alice
and
I'll
just
speak
to
the
food.
Wait
the
food
based
challenge
quickly
and
then
I'll.
Let
you
get
back
to
it.
So
the
food
waste
challenge
was
essentially
the
social
media
campaign
to
support
the
food
waste
reduction
month,
the
city's
food
waste
reduction
month-
and
it
was
it-
was
designed
to
get
people
involved
in
sharing
food
waste
reduction
tips.
E
There
was
a
sort
of
an
education
campaign
around
that
about
how
to
how
to
reduce
your
food
waste,
and
the
challenge
itself
was,
you
know,
featured
a
lot
of
like
sustainable
local
purveyors
of
let's
see,
fermenti
was
involved
to
the
brim,
a
refill
store
where
items
from
valley
view
farms,
and
they
were
all
just
sort
of
sustainable
food
and
food
waste
reduction,
prizes
prize
packages
that
we
put
together
and
just
yeah.
E
I
mean
the
idea
was
just
to
get
people
to
to
post
their
information
about
their
own,
their
own
food
waste
reduction
tips
and
then
to
participate
in
a
home
food
waste
audit
so
to
track
their
own
food
waste
for
a
week
at
a
time
through
the
month
of
april,
and
to
share
that
with
with
us
on
social
media-
and
it
was
I'd,
say
it
was
a
good
first
challenge.
E
Hopefully
we
can
make
it
a
much
bigger
thing
in
the
future,
but
overall
I
would
say
it
was
pretty
successful
in
terms
of
creating
a
lot
of
engagement,
wnc
food
solution.
Food
based
solutions
has
now
has
like
over
250
followers,
or
I
guess
it's
nearly
300
now
and
it
just
you
know,
began
earlier
this
year.
So
so
that
was
exciting
and
I
would
say
successful
overall
and
just
just
one
part
of
the
whole
food
waste
reductions
month.
D
Great,
yes,
exactly
so
two
sanitation
trucks
have
saved
the
food
asheville
logos
on
them
now,
so
that
was
part
of
it
as
well.
Like
maggie
said,
there
were
three
food
waste
audits
conducted
at
three
different
rec,
centers
and
kira
has
a
little
information
about
the
public
food
scrap
drop
off.
I
don't
know
if
kira
wants
to
say
more
about
that
or
not
oh
there.
She,
okay,
sorry.
I
Yeah
yeah,
I'm
happy
to
do
that.
So
I
think
we
may
have
included
this
in
an
earlier
update
and
there's
a
little
update
on
our
timeline.
We
are
rolling
out
a
pilot
project
to
collect
food
waste,
so
food
waste
recycling
and
working
with
danny's
dumpsters
as
a
hauler,
and
that
will
be
the
shed
was
installed
today
at
stevens
lee
recreation
center.
I
So
we're
doing
some
bear
proofing
and
making
sure
that
it's
aesthetically
pleasing
and
hopefully
not
offensive
to
the
olfactory
senses
and
that
will
be
open
for
city
employees
and
for
the
stevenslee
recreation
center
on
a
trial
basis.
I
This
summer,
when
everything
goes
successfully
and
everything
is
moving
smoothly,
it
will
be
open
and
available
for
the
public
to
drop
off
their
food
waste
scraps
there
and
then
they'll
be
hauled
off
and
composted
at
danny's
dumpsters,
and
that
is
in
collaboration
with
the
natural
resource,
defense
council,
food
matters
program
and
then
also
in
tandem
with
a
grant
that
we
that
we
received
through
ncdeq
the
department
of
environmental
quality
and
partnership
with
sanitation
department
to
promote
backyard
composting.
I
So
we're
distributing
little
kitchen
counter:
top
food
scrap
collection,
totes
through
asheville,
greenworks
and
and
some
of
our
own
channels
to
encourage
folks
to
collect
food
scraps
at
home
and
eventually
be
able
to
bring
them
to
stevenslee
rec
center
to
drop
off.
So
that's
the
update.
Hopefully
that
will
be
open
to
the
public
in
the
fall
and
we're
in
conversation
with
county
and
other
folks
to
to
begin
thinking
about
tracking
that
understanding,
some
metrics
and
thinking
about
potential
replications.
In
a
year,
two
project.
D
Thanks
kieran,
that
ties
in
one
other
announcement
is
that
we
had
a
memorandum
of
understanding
with
nrdc
on
this
grant
and
cura
is
part
of
a
cohort
southeastern
u.s
cohort
of
cities
working
on
that
grant.
So
that,
like
she,
said
that
this
all
these
initiatives,
kind
of
link
and
we're
going
to
continue
for
a
second
year
on
that
grant,
so
thanks
kira
for
everything
you've
been
doing.
For
that.
D
I
don't
know
if
there's
any
more
announcements
about
the
the
food
waste,
but
I
did
want
to
say
one
thing
about
solid
waste
that
maggie
and
I
are
also
working
with
collaborators
to
address
some
challenges
with
recycling
at
public
housing
locations
in
the
city
of
asheville.
So
that's
an
ongoing
initiative
that
we're
working
on
as
well.
E
I
guess
we
could
mention
the
plastic
waste
reduction
month,
which
was
sitting
in
part
of
the
plastic
reduction
task
force,
and
we
we
just.
I
guess
we
both
participate
on
the
task
force
and
just
put
together
sort
of
oh,
my
gosh,
I'm
blabbering
again,
I'm
so.
D
Sorry
I'll
do
it
month
of
may
okay.
Yeah
so
may
is
mind.
Your
plastic
may
yeah.
Sorry,
maggie
so
mind
your
plastic
may
and
again
you
could
even
though
may
is
over.
You
can
go
back
and
find
it
on
social
media,
it's
actually
in
collaboration
with
greenworks,
asheville
greenworks
and
then
there's
also
going
to
be
plastic
free
july.
So
there's
actually
two
months
of
the
year,
drawing
attention
to
plastic
reduction,
mind
your
plastic
may
is
more
of
a
local
thing.
Plastic
free
july
is
a
global
initiative.
D
So
yes,
we
that
plasma
production
task
force
is
still
going
and
we're
also
trying
to
promote.
You
know:
awareness
at
the
individual
and
household
and
city
level.
G
Thank
you
for
all
that
yeah.
I
have
a
quick
question
for
thinking
about
plastic
and
this
might
get
too
in
the
weeds
too
quickly,
but
I
just
started
noticing
these
all
aluminum
to
go
cups
and
in
an
era
of
to
go
and
in
a
town
with
lots
of
to
goes,
it
seems
like
that
is
a
reasonable
alternative
to
plastic.
To
go
cops,
and
do
you
know
anything
about?
Is
that
something
that
the
city
is
looking
at?
I
know
it's.
Kirby
is
kirby.
G
D
I
B
B
All
right
so
we'll
move
on
to
item
3b
on
our
agenda,
update
from
the
open
space
task
force,
we'll
go
back
to
maggie.
E
Yeah,
okay,
so
allison
and
I
have
been
participating
on
the
open
space
task
force
and
it's
it's
a
group
of
folks
reviewing
the
open
space
amendment
recommendations
and
I
will
say
I
have
a
planning
background
and
it's
complicated.
I
mean
we're
trying
to
discuss
a
tiered
system
for
ensuring
that
the
tree
preservation
ordinance
is
balanced
with
steep
slope,
ordinance
balanced
with
buffer
zones
and.
E
Flood
plains
and
developable
areas
and
amenities
spaces.
So
it's
it's
a
it's
a
good
group
of
people.
We've
got
developers,
neighborhood
association,
folks,
landscapers,
designers,
architects,
and
so
it's
we've
had
a
lot
of
good
discussions
and
I
would
say
we're
kind
of
approaching
some
final
final
answers
around
that,
but
we're
looking
to
just
improve
the
quality
of
development.
That's
happening
around
asheville
and
in
maintaining
open
space
where
it
serves
both
residents,
as
well
as
the
sort
of
more
ecological
goals
that
we
have
yeah.
F
Has
it
progressed
beyond
where
it
was
when
you
and
I
and
allison,
and
one
or
two
others,
I've
gotten
right
now
were
involved?
Like
I
don't
know,
I
forget
if
it's
before
covet
or
last
year,
while
we
were
all
in
jail
or
what,
but
we
did
have
a
lot
of
discussion
and
talked
about
lots
of
options,
and
it
seems
like
what
you
mentioned
were
among
those.
Do
you
feel
like
there's
been
any
you
know,
movement
and
towards
some
resolution,
because
I
think
we
have
made
some
good
progress
with
them,
but.
E
F
E
Yeah,
I
do,
I
do
think
it's
we've.
You
know
dived
in
a
bit
more
to
some
of
the
we've
dived
into
the
weeds
really.
But
I
think
this
is
a
more
this
group
is
it's
definitely
I
would
say
it's
a
got,
a
larger
range
of
perspectives.
E
You
know,
there's
more
developers
being
represented
in
this
particular
group
that
we're
that
we're
a
part
of-
and
I
don't
know
allison-
do
you
have
anything
to
add.
Yeah.
D
And
your
memory
is
good,
it's
super
complicated
and
they're.
I
mean
I
don't
want
to
get
too
much
in
the
weeds,
but
we
could
easily
get
there.
There's
some
issues
about
whether
the
central
business
district
should
be
exempted
from
open
space,
which
it
is
at
the
moment
and
whether
the
river
arts
district
should
be
exempted,
which
it
is
at
the
moment,
there's
issues
about
overlap,
double
counting
of
areas
and
there's
also
another
spin-off
sub-sub-committee
on
tree
planting
and
sort
of
city,
trees,
street
trees,
sidewalk
sidewalk
width.
D
So
what
we're
finding
in
this
year
of
meetings
is
that
there's
so
many
sort
of
domino
effect
things
or
where
things
are
overlapping,
so
I
agree
with
maggie.
We
know
we're
getting
somewhere,
but
we
keep
thinking
of
like
exemptions
or
you
know,
challenges
so
at
a
minimum,
we're
we're
talking
and
and
yeah
we
don't
have.
We
haven't
agreed
on
the
language
of
the
the
new
ordinance
yet.
E
Yeah
there's
a
lot
of
nuances
to
each
piece
and
so
many
different
typologies
and
characteristics
that
we're
trying
to
take
into
consideration.
And
it's
it's
a
lot.
So
we'll
come
up
with
a
something
more
concrete
for
you
all
once
we
once
a
decision
has
been
made
so.
F
What
I'm
encouraged
by
is
that
it
seems
really
holistic
and
rather
than
rushing
to
a
solution
which
we,
which
was
sort
of
the
mode
at
the
moment
when
we
were
working
with
the
tree,
the
for
the
urban
forestry
commission
and
others
about
this.
E
Yeah,
I
would
say
it's
been
a
really
good
multi-stakeholder
process,
just
really
just
bouncing
ideas
back
and
forth
in
a
way
that
you,
you
don't
see
as
often
as
you
you
might
want
to.
So
I
think
we're
getting
there.
F
I
think
having
developers
in
there
is
another,
realistic
and
really
smart
move,
because,
if
you're
going
to
have
ordinances
and
situations
where
everybody's
going
to
be
arguing
constantly
and
bringing
it
up
and
never
really
kind
of
following
the
letter
barely
but
not
really,
the
intention
you'd
end
up
not
with
the
best
outcome.
So
again,
I
think
sounds
like
it's
really
going
in
a
good
direction.
A
A
E
Yeah,
okay,
so
we've
got,
I'm
gonna
have
trouble
with
all
the
names.
E
Let's
urban
forestry,
commission,
the
urban
yeah,
the
urban
forestry
commission
and
I
would
say
that
there
is
sort
of
there's
our
faction,
which
is
sort
of
more
focused
on
open
space,
from
an
ecological
standpoint
and
maximizing
that
open
space,
balanced
with
amenity
areas
and
then
there's
sort
of
the
developer
faction.
And
then
there's
the
neighborhood
association.
Small
business
faction.
D
E
Yes,
the.
E
Association
and
gosh
private
private
developers
and
the
center
for
biological
diversity.
D
No,
that's
urban
forest
service
commission
and
then,
of
course,
we
have
planning
and
zoning
trc
and
the
city
development
office.
D
A
The
information
you
gave
was
great
just
curious
what
other
boards
and
commissions
were
participating.
It's
good
to
hear
that,
there's
a
diverse
perspective
coming
to
the
table.
C
Yeah
I
appreciate
that
I
had
a
similar
question
about
who
was
comprising
the
task
force
and
specifically,
if
there
was
someone
knowledgeable
about
stormwater
impacts
and
green
infrastructure
as
it
relates
to
open
space.
E
Yeah
the
urban
tree
commission
is
edward.
Macy
is
probably
the
strongest
representative
there
and
karen
certain
with
her
last
name.
E
Really,
not
that's
been
part
of
the
focus
is
just
keeping
the
open
space
agenda
in
mind
and
it
gets
there's
a
lot
of
overlap
with
other
other
pieces.
So
it's
yeah.
D
E
I
was
at
the,
and
that's
that
was
one
of
the
challenges
at
the
beginning
was
to
sort
of
identify.
What
is
what
is
open
space?
What
is
its
purpose?
What
how
can
we
make
it
meet
all
these
needs
and
then
have
a
common.
You
know
discussion
around
this
common
goal.
Instead
of
constantly
having
you
know,
different
different
goals
for
what
open
space
should
be,
and
so
that's
that's
been
an
ongoing
discussion
as
well.
It
comes
into
every
comes
into
every
conversation.
F
You
know
tim,
I
think
that
was
a
great
question
and
I
will
try
to
remember
well,
I'm
sure,
since
marshall
is
on
the
storm
water
task
force
with
me,
that
you'll
get
the
document
when
it's
done
right.
Aren't
you
his
business
partner,
yep
yeah,
but
we
could
share
it
with
everybody.
It's
getting
close
to
being
done.
I'd
say
in
the
next
month
we
should
have
it
finished
and
it
might
lend
some
information
about
green
infrastructure
and
other
pieces
that
you
guys
could
benefit
from.
F
It
won't
be
very
long
like
seven,
eight
pages
with
maybe
some
amen,
addenda
and
links
and
stuff,
because
you
know
we
wanted
to
keep
it
short
enough
that
people
would
actually
look
at
it
but
be
able
to
go
farther
if
you
wanted
to.
So
I
think
we
just
need
to
remember
to
get
it
to
you
when
you're-
and
I
said,
like
I
said
tim-
I
know
you're
gonna
get
it
anyway,
but
anybody
else
who
wants
it
when
we're
done.
We
can
also
share
it.
C
E
C
E
I
mean,
I
would
say
any
wisdom
that
you
want
to
share
with
us
to
pass
along
would
be
very
welcome.
We
are
have
been
trying
to
look
at.
Have
those
discussions
through
the
lens
of
you
know
green
the
impacts
of
green
green
infrastructure
and
open
space
on
storm
water,
but
it's
only
been
a
small
part
of
the
conversation.
F
Since
the
romans,
I
think
the
idea
of
green
infrastructure
is
still
a
little
nerve-wracking
and
scary.
They
imagine
it
being
really
hard
to
maintain
and
more
costly
and
it's
well.
F
In
the
conversation
we
just
don't
have
the
time
we
don't
have
the
money,
we
don't
have
the
training
and
that's
constantly
the
response.
We
need
to
help
people
understand
how
beneficial
and
positive
in
multiple
ways
putting
green
infrastructure
in
suitable
places
can
be
to
the
city
to
climate,
to
people's
health.
To
water.
I
mean
there's
just
so
many
ways
to
water
quality.
You
know,
and
we
should
really
be
kind
of
spokespeople
on
the
side.
For
this.
I
think.
E
I
will
say
tim
there's
a
you
know
the
tree
planting
group
that
allison
mentioned
that
might
be
worthwhile
for
you
to
sit
on
it's
sort
of
a
an
offshoot
of
the
open
space
group,
but
they're
they're,
getting
they're
talking
more
about
like
street
street
tree
design
and
bios
whales,
and
that
level
of
discussion
is
happening
there.
So
if
you
wanted
to
participate
in
some
of
those,
I
think
that
would
be
worthwhile.
I'm
pretty
sure
that
would
be
something
that
could
be.
C
E
He's
the
the
planner
who's
sort
of
organizing
that
so.
G
I
have
a
quick
question
about
roofs
and
the
extent
to
which
that's
continued.
To
be
part
of
the
conversation
I
was.
I
was
part
of
your
team
way
back
in
the
day
and
there
were
incentives,
but
I'm
not
sure
if
that,
if,
if
that
has
carried
on
and
what
others
think
of
those
incentives
and
what
that
might
look
like
living
roofs
in
particular
but
but
other
ideas.
E
Yeah,
I
would
I
mean
allison,
feel
free
to
chime
in.
I
would
say
that
it's
a
controversial
issue
for
some
people
who
feel
that
you
know
a
green
roof.
Definitely
does
it
should
count
as
open
space,
currently
just
any
roof
accessible
roof
space
that
can
be
used
as
a
public
amenity
is
counted
as
open
space.
So
there's
this
balance
between
something
that's
considered
a
public
amenity,
an
outdoor
space
versus
something
that's
serving
more
of
a
an
environmental
function.
E
In
terms
of
you
know,
heat
island
effect
and
storm
water
mitigation,
and
that's
got
that
kind
of
thing
so,
but
currently,
I
believe,
just
any
any
roof.
Space.
That's
accessible
is
considered
open
space.
D
E
And
we
have
talked
about
the
you
know,
the
permeable
aspect
of
that
paving
but
yeah,
that's
still
still
being.
D
G
I
think
amber's
question
was
the
timeline
for
bringing
it
to
city,
council
and
and-
and
I'm
wondering
also,
if
there's
a
way
for
you
to
share
that
the
waiting
that
the
valuating
that
you
have
at
the
end
or
towards
the
end.
That
would
be
interesting
for
all
of
us
to
and
as
to
how
that
influences
the
ultimate.
The
final
policy.
E
We
can
reach
out
to
vadilla
and
see
he's
you
know.
We
basically
work
off
of
his
presentation,
all
right
for
each
meeting
and
and
he's
got
one
one
chart
in
particular
that
that
sort
of
does
aim
to
show
the
values
of
and
how
they
line
up.
In
different
circumstances,
I
mean
I'm
sure
we
could
ask
him
to
share
that
and
as
far
as
a
timeline
goes
as
the
best
thing
that
I
know
at
the
moment
is
that
the
planning
department
is
eager
to
come
to
some
conclusion
quickly,
but
I
don't
know
allison.
D
It's
we
almost,
we
almost
called
it
done
and
then
it
was
reopened,
which
I
think
is
good.
Like
ann
said,
I
think
it's
actually
better
to
come
to
consensus,
rather
than
think
it
was
fine
and
then
implement
it
and
then
realize
that
there's
a
ton
of
loopholes
or
whatever
yeah
so
there's
no
specific
end
goal
date.
F
C
G
G
When
we
had
the
early
discussions,
we
also
were
aiming
to
build
in
contingencies
that
if
we
met
if
a
certain
policy
was
not
turning
out,
as
we
had
hoped,
there
was
a
chance
for
corrective
action
that
we
could
say
at
three
years
or
at
five
years
or
whatever,
maybe
that
we're
losing
far
more
open
space
than
is
healthy.
Is
that
still
part
of
the
conversation.
B
E
It
is
yeah,
it
is
still
part
of
the
conversation.
I
think
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
allison,
but
I
think
it
was
determined
that
three
years
was
kind
of
a
quick
turnaround
time
to
revisit
some
of
these
things.
It
wasn't
enough
time
to
really
see
the
impacts
of
some
of
the
decisions.
D
Keith
you're
remembering
a
lot
of
stuff
that
hasn't
been
discussed
lately,
but
I
think
what
we've
moved
to
and
I
think
it's
helping
is
we're
looking
at
sample
on
properties
that,
because
the
tr
remember
the
tree,
the
new
tree
ordinance
just
came
into
effect
in
january.
So
we're
still
seeing
the
impacts
of
that
and
then
we're
looking
at
how
the
tree
preservation
ordinance
might
overlap
with
open
space.
D
Is
it
already
providing
enough
open
space,
and
some
people
on
our
committee
want
to
reduce
the
amount
of
open
space
required
because
they
say
it's
prohibitive
to
development?
So
so
I
think
I
think
yeah.
I
I
just
think
we
we're
thinking
it
through
more
now
and
in
the
sort
of
review
period
hasn't
been
brought
up
lately.
B
B
I
know
it's
not
ideal
circumstances
to
meet
quarterly
and
virtually
and
in
smaller
groups
also
virtually,
but
I
think
we're
doing
a
really
great
job,
and
I
just
want
to
give
kudos
to
everyone
on
stacey
for
continuing
their
hard
work
and
good
work
and
just
really
proud
of
you
guys,
you're
doing
great
when
amber
and
I
and
ann
met.
Last
week
we
were
still
under
the
impression
that
we're
gonna
be
continuing
the
virtual
meetings
schedule
indefinitely
until
we
hear
otherwise,
so
just
keep
post
amber.
Did
you
have
anything
to
add
to
that.
A
Yeah,
thank
you.
I
just
heard
today
that
they
are
checking
just
heard
today
that
that
could
be
changing
soon
and
I
will
keep
you
all
posted,
but
I
suspect
the
next
time
we
come
together
in
august.
We
should
be
able
to
do
that
in
person.
B
B
Okay,
awesome:
well,
I
guess
that
we
can
officially
adjourn
an
hour
early.
This
was
a
quick
meeting
this
time
we
had
not
a
lot
to
discuss
or
a
lot
to
discuss,
but
not
a
lot
to
vote
on
and,
like
I
said,
I
think,
we're
all
doing
really
good
work
really
excited
about
all
the
the
initiatives
that
we're
doing
and
have
been
doing
the
spring
and
we'll
continue
to
do
this
summer
and
I'm
excited
to
see
you
all
in
person.
Hopefully
in
august,
it's
exciting
all
right.
Well,.