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Three
of
those
members
are
appointed
by
the
asheville
city
council,
three
appointed
by
buncombe
county
board
of
commissioners
and
three
are
appointed
by
six
appointed
members.
The
commission
is
to
advise
the
city,
council
and
county
commissioners
about
the
preservation,
interpretation
and
promotion
of
african-american
arts,
history
and
culture.
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B
Please
make
sure
to
mute
your
microphone
if
you
are
not
speaking
when
you
have
a
question
or
or
would
like
to
speak,
click
click
raise
hand
and
when
recognized
by
the
chair
unmute
your
microphone,
please
remember
to
mute
your
phone
after
you
are
done.
Speaking
committee
members,
as
I
call
your
name,
please
say
a
quick
hello,
aaron
griffin,
hello,
everyone.
That's
me
ashley
wilberton,.
B
B
To
help
our
audience
follow
along
I'll
state,
each
section
of
the
agenda
allowed
again.
I
ask
committee
members
to
click,
raise
hand
and
be
recognized
to
speak.
Please
state
your
name
each
each
time.
You
comment
just
a
reminder
that
the
public
is
listening
on
the
phone
and
this
keeps
them
up
to
date
on
the
order
of
the
meeting
and
who
is
commenting
or
speaking.
B
This
action
action
needed
go
ahead.
I'm
sorry.
B
Please
take
a
few
minutes
to
review
and
I
need
a
motion
with
a
second
for
the
both
sets
of
the
minutes.
Once
you
have
a
motion
and
second
ask:
if
there
is
any
further
discussions
of
the
minutes,
you
all
need
to
read
that.
B
This
is
great,
so
aaron
griffin.
B
E
B
All
right,
next,
on
generally,
we
have
updates
brenda
mills,
city
liaison.
A
Good
evening,
everyone
brenda
mills
staff
liaisons
for
the
african-american
heritage,
commission,
I
don't
have
very
much
I'm
going
to
be
talking
a
little
bit
more
about
your
meeting
structure
later
on
the
agenda,
but
I
do
want
you
to
start
thinking
and
ahead
of
time
about
whether
you
would
like
to
go
back
in
person
or
be
virtual.
A
Just
keep
it
in
mind
that
when
you
do
so,
you
have
to
stay
whatever
format
you
choose.
You
have
to
stay
that
way
for
for
the
next
year.
This
is
coming
before
I
believe
city
council
on
tuesday,
so
we'll
know
more
about
the
next
steps
for
meeting
format
after
next
tuesday
city
council
meeting.
Thank
you.
Everyone.
B
Thank
you,
county
liaison
leonard
jones.
F
Yes,
I
just
have
a
few
things:
I'm
leonard
jones,
with
buncombe
county.
One
thing
I
would
like
to
just
make
you
aware
of
is
that
in
collection,
in
partnership
with
our
special
collections
at
pac
memorial
library
on
friday
september
23rd,
they
are
partnering
with
the
state
historical
record
advisory
board
on
a
free
workshop
that
will
focus
on
working
with
community
members
to
preserve
buncombe,
county
stories
and
narratives
in
our
collective
past,
present
and
future,
and
so
that
regional
workshop
will
be
on
friday
september.
F
The
23rd
at
9
30
a.m
to
3
30
p.m,
at
pac,
memorial
library
in
downtown
asheville
at
67
haywood
street
in
asheville.
I
also
would
like
to
remind
everyone
today
that
they
still
have
the
north
carolina.
Black
architects
and
builders
exhibit
at
peck
memorial
library,
and
that
is
occurring
and
those
panels
will
be
up
at
the
library
they've
been
up
since
august
the
first
and
it
will
be
that
exhibit,
will
continue
until
october,
the
10th
and
just
a
gentle
reminder.
F
F
B
Thank
you
leonard.
Next
we
have
city
council
liaison
sandra
kilgore.
G
Hello,
everyone.
First
of
all,
it's
only
a
couple
of
updates.
I'd
like
to
give
you
the
last
city
council
meeting
the
city
council
voted
a
six
to
one
to
a
budget
update
for
the
city
of
asheville
apd.
Basically,
what
happens
comes
from
the
forfeiture
fund?
Basically,
which
is
a
fund
that
basically
is
formed
from
monies
or
or
whatever
that
are
collected
from
from
drug.
You
know
deals
and
things
like
that.
G
This
particular
money
is
set
to
be
it's
divided
actually
into
three
groups,
and
it's
a
federal,
the
state
and
the
city,
and
that
particular
front
fund
actually
made
available
to
the
city
of
asheville
419
000,
to
be
utilized
for
for
projects
that
they
have
that
they're
in
need
of
the
projects
that
they
actually
voted
to
actually
use
them,
for
was
over.
Two
hundred
thousand
was
used
for
a
new
bomb
detective
machine.
G
This
particular
bomb
apparatus,
basically
hours
that
we
have
is
outdated
and
it's
old
and
this
particular
equipment
actually
serves
not
only
buncombe
county
but
also
regions
around
buncombe
county
another
one
of
the
200,
I
think
it
was
240
000
was
used
toward
a
new
dna
analyzer.
The
dna
analyzer
is
used
to
expedite
basically
analyzing,
basically
used
to
helpfully
help
efficiently.
G
Okay
recognize
when
crimes
are
being
committed,
that
we're
able
to
figure
out
who
actually
is
responsible
for
the
crimes
which
makes
it
a
much
more
efficient
system
and
the
other
amount
was
used
for.
I
think
it
was
about
not
sure,
but
it
was
used
towards
the
forensic
basically
forensic
developers,
the
one
that
actually
read
the
forensic
information
and
one
other
project.
We
had
two
other
projects
that
we
actually
approved
the
city
of
asheville
approved.
All
of
those
were
unanimous
for
a
couple
of
housing
projects.
G
One
of
the
projects
is
the
319
billboard.
Basically,
we
all
voted
unanimously
to
sell
that
particular
property
for
one
dollar
to
the
laurel
street
development
out
of
charlotte.
This
is
a
black
woman-owned
developer
that
will
be
actually
providing
a
companion
units
for
the
maple
crest
development.
So
it's
on
319.
This
particular
development
not
only
will
have
affordable
housing,
but
it
also
have
market
rate
rents,
which
is,
and
also
some
commercial
space
will
be
used.
G
For
that
too,
the
other
developer
was
mountain
housing
requested
a
850
000
loan
to
purchase
land
that
was
on
tunnel
road.
Basically,
this
particular
development
on
16
restaurant
is
the
address
and
what
it
would
actually
do
would
provide
between
50
and
60
units,
and
all
of
these
units
will
be
affordable
of
these
affordable
units.
A
certain
percentage
is
set
aside
for
basically
children
that
have
grown
out
of
the
system
as
far
as
the
foster
homes
and
what
happened
a
lot
of
times
foster
home
kids
are
basically
left.
G
A
lot
of
these
kids
basically
become
homeless.
So
what
we've
actually
did,
I
think
we're
setting
aside
20
to
be
utilized
to
house
basically
a
lot
of
the
foster
kids
who
have
aged
out
of
the
homes
and
that
we're
looking
forward
to,
because
that's
something
that's
definitely
needed
other
than
that.
That's
about
it.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
Thank
you
councilwoman,
so
number
of
next
on
the
agenda.
We
have
unfinished
business
unless
anyone
have
any
questions
or
anything,
we
can
move
on
everybody
good.
B
So
so
we
have
a
recommendation
requested
for
the
walton
street
pool
landmark
destination.
I
hope
everybody
had
a
chance
to
look
over.
B
Look
at
look
at
look
over
it
and
also
we
have
alex
code,
the
historic
resources,
planning
and
urban
design
play.
You
can
take
it
over
alex.
H
Thank
you,
chair
griffin,
nice
to
be
here
with
all
of
you
today
and
I'm
just
going
to
give
a
brief
recap
of
the
last
what
we
talked
about
the
last
meeting
since
you'll
have
new
commissioner
today.
H
H
It's
a
it's
kind
of
a
two-track
project
that
we've
been
working
on
for
the
past
eight
or
nine
months
with
parks
and
so
parks
has
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
make
improvements
at
walton
street
park.
Those
are
improvements
to
features
or
amenities
other
than
the
pool
and
pool
house
themselves
so
parks.
H
So
at
this
point,
they're
diverging
a
little
bit
because
parks
is
working
on
doing
some
some
planning,
you
know
preliminary
conceptual
designing
for
the
amenity
features
and-
and
now
I'm
moving
along
with
the
designation
to
get
a
recommendation
from
you
all
and
then
from
the
historic
resources
commission
and
then,
ultimately,
it
will
go
to
city
council
in
october,
hopefully
for
their
final
decision
on
it,
and
so
we've
done
a
really
significant
amount
of
engagement.
H
H
We
did
publish
a
survey
earlier
in
the
summer
and
then
based
on
feedback
from
the
south
side,
united
group
a
couple
of
months
ago,
when
we
had
decided
to
close
the
survey,
they
asked
us
to
leave
the
survey
open
and
publish
it
to
the
wider
community
so
that
that
survey
has
been
open
to
the
whole
to
the
whole
community.
H
For
the
last
I
think,
month
or
so-
and
it
just
I
think,
closes
this
week,
so
I
was
hoping
to
get
updated
data
on
the
survey
from
parks
today,
but
they
I
didn't,
get
that
information
from
from
them.
But
we
had
an
internal
meeting
on
on
monday.
I
think
we
got
close
to
about
300
recipients
that
would
have
been
about
240,
230
or
so
more
than
we
initially
had
when
we
just
were
engaging
the
south
side
community.
H
Specifically,
I
think
that,
statistically,
it
stayed
roughly
the
same,
and
so
the
ask
on
the
historic
designation
was
about
70
in
support
of
the
designation,
either
designation
as
a
local
landmark
or
listing
in
the
national
register,
and
then
there
was
about,
I
think,
65
or
so
percent
of
recommendation
that
both
designations
occur.
At
this
point,
we're
just
talking
about
the
landmark
designation,
because
we
received
an
application
from
one
of
our
community
non-profits
to
formally
designate
the
the
park
as
a
liberal
day
mark
that
doesn't
mean
we
won't
pursue
the
national
register.
H
We
just
haven't
gotten
there
yet
because
we've
been
busy
with
with
this
other
part
and
the
national
register
goes
through
a
different
process.
So
I'm
just
gonna
now
really
briefly
go
through
my
staff
report
and
and
then
just
turn
it
over
to
you
all
to
ask
questions.
Do
you
have
any
questions
about
my
recap
of
how
we
got
here
that
I
can
answer
before
I
jump
into
my
short
little
staff
reports?
You
all.
B
Yeah,
I
have
one
question.
You
said
the
national
registry
part
is
where
so
I
can
understand.
Where
are
you
guys
with
that.
H
Sure
so
the
national
register
just
to
give
an
explanation
of
kind
of
the
difference
between
the
two
programs.
The
national
register
of
historic
places
is,
is
a
federal
program
that
is
administered
by
state
historic
preservation,
offices
and
it's
like
probably
the
most
recognized,
widely
recognized
historic,
designation.
It's
primarily
honorific
in
nature.
It
doesn't
carry
any
like
design
restrictions
or
anything
like
that.
It.
It
does
go
through
a
different
process,
though,
that
takes
about
a
year,
maybe
longer,
because
the
state
office
has
been
short
staffed.
H
Just
like
you
know,
most
of
our
municipal
government
agencies
have
been
so,
but
we
we
are,
you
know,
certainly
planning
to
do
that.
It
seems
like
the
community
supports
us
doing
that
and-
and
that
would
also
make
give
us
some
inroads
to
grant
funding
for
potential
programming
or
brick
and
mortar
or
anything
else
to
honor
and
and
help
enhance
the
pool
structure
itself
and
the
pool
building
for
whatever
they,
whatever
the
community
wants
to
reuse
them.
As
so,
that's
certainly
a
goal.
H
J
I
just
wanted
to
interject
that
the
preservation
society
contracted
me
to
submit
a
local
landmark
nomination
and
a
national
register
nomination
and
so
I'll
be
doing
that
on
on
the
preservation
society's
behalf.
Once
I
get
all
of
the
feedback
from
the
state
historic
preservation
officer
because
of
the
they've
been
reviewing
the
local
landmark
nomination.
D
Yes,
this
is
michael
hayes,
so
I
want
to
make
sure
I
get
an
understanding
of
this,
particularly
because
I
had
an
opportunity
to
talk
to
some
residents
on
the
south
side
as
well.
So
you
say:
there's
500
000,
that
is,
you
know,
for
every
for
everything
to
be
like
refurbished
redone,
with
the
exception
of
the
pool
in
the
pool
house
right,
but
then
there's
still
that
interest
for
those
who
are,
you
know
really
want
to
fight
for
the
pool
now
and
we
become
we
get
to
register
and
whatnot.
D
Does
that
prevent
us
from
changing
anything
if
the
money
was
to
arise
for
the
for
the
pool
and
the
pool
house
to
be
completely
refurbished.
H
Sure
that's
a
great
question.
Definitely
one
probably
the
one
I've
been
asked
the
most.
So
one
thing
that
is,
I
want
to
make
super
clear
is
that
historic,
designation,
either
as
local
landmark
or
as
on
national
register,
doesn't
preclude
making
changes
to
the
features
that
are
included
in
the
historic
designation.
If
it's
a
local
landmark,
it
just
means
there's
a
process
for
reviewing
those
proposed
changes
to
ensure
that
the
proposed
changes
basically
preserve.
H
What's
you
know
the
historic
character
of
the
park
and
what's
determined
to
be
historic,
which
obviously
we
talk
a
lot
about
the
pool
and
the
pool
house,
because
those
are
you
know,
like
probably
the
the
highest
level
historic
resources
in
the
park.
So
I
it's
easy
to
see.
How,
like
I
mean
I
can
understand,
where
there's
a
lot
of
confusion
and
sort
of
like
wondering
why
the
why
the
city
is
asking
again
because
it's
hard
to
separate
the
use
from
a
pool
right
from
a
historically
used.
H
You
know
that
was
historically
used
as
a
pool.
The
pool
used,
obviously
has
is
being
moved
to
the
grant
center,
but
there's
definitely
opportunity
to
reimagine
how
that
pool
space
can
be
utilized
as
an
amenity
for
the
community.
We
definitely
don't
want
to
like
freeze
it
in
time
and
make
it
a
feature
that
isn't
something
usable
and
what
that
becomes
remains
to
be
seen.
You
know,
I
think
it
will
just
take
some.
H
D
So
that's
what
that's
the
concern
of
the
community
at
you
know.
You
know,
so
it
was
like
kind
of
double
speak
right.
It's
like
okay,
so
we
we
we're
we're
going
to
we're
going
to
do
this
and
no
it
doesn't.
It
doesn't
exclude
us
later
on
down
the
line.
You
know
raising
money
to
get
everything
refurbished,
but
we
have
to
reimagine.
D
So
when
you
say
reimagine-
and
we
start
speaking-
that
type
of
language
to
the
community-
that
we're
trying
to
you
know
understand
the
person
preservation
of
that
pool
means
more
than
just
a
pool
that
was
one
of
the
you
know
it
was.
It
was
one
of
the
secret,
the
pools
that
were
segregated
right.
It
was
that's
where
the
black,
so
it's
more
than
just
and
I'm
speaking
for
the
community,
because
these
are
conversations
that
we've
had
mr
griffin
myself,
that
we've
had
over
since
the
last
time
we
met.
D
H
H
I
definitely
have
had
very
limited
number
of
folks
like
reach
out
to
me
directly,
even
though
I
think
my
name
is
out
there
in
terms
of
the
historic
preservation
piece,
but
it
is
complicated
to
communicate
around,
and
I
understand
that,
like
kind
of
it's
it's
a
little
bit
confusing
in
a
gray
area
of
like
well,
does
the
designation
mean
that
it's
you
know
gonna,
be
you
know
just
that
way
forever,
and
I
would
say
the
answer
is:
is
no
we
again
we
want
the
community
to
utilize
those
assets
to
enjoy
them,
not
for
them
to
just
be
you
know
empty
spaces
and
remain
that
way.
H
You
know,
I
think
a
lot
of
people
think
preservation
means
that
something
is,
you
know,
preserved
yeah.
It's
just
you
know
it's
like
a
museum
piece,
but
that's
not
I
envision
this
as
a
I
envision
preservation
as
a
living
breathing
dynamic
tool.
You
know
I
I
like
adaptive.
H
You
know
figure
out
like
planning
for
those
for
those
features
to
be
reimagined,
because
I
don't
want.
I
would
be
remiss
and
recommend
recommending
a
designation
if
we
kind
of
breathe
a
new
life.
You
know,
if
I
didn't
see,
you
know,
avenues
for
breathing
new
life
into
into
those
futures
with
the
community's
input.
Of
course,.
E
Alex
really
good
to
see
you
again,
but
I
have
a
question:
are
you
aware
that
there
are
currently
federal
funding
programs
to
restore
pools
and
other
amenities
that
attend
to
that?
At
this
very
moment,.
H
Yes
and
we've
just
been
to
be
honest
with
you,
I
am
one
person
we've
been
working
on
two
other
really
big
grant
funded
projects,
one
with
that
was
like
our
african-american
heritage
resource
survey,
which
I
kind
of
put
that
I
put
that
in
here.
In
my
as
like
number
one
bullet
point.
In
my
background,
we
started
that
work
in
2018
and
that
was
as
a
real
result
of
us.
H
You
know
our
conversations
with
you,
catherine,
when
we
were
talking
about
the
potential
designation,
historic
designation
and
east
end
and
looking
at
our
gis
and
realizing
that
there
are
some
pretty
big
holes
in
our
architectural
survey,
which
is
basically
the
inventory
that
we're
responsible
for
keeping
and
maintaining
in
terms
of
historic
resources
throughout,
not
just
the
city
but
buncombe
county.
H
Our
program
covers
both,
and
so
we-
and
that
would
be
the
holes-
were
specifically
historically
african-american
neighborhoods-
that
hadn't
been
docu
researched
and
documented
to
document
the
historic
resources
in
those
areas.
So
we
started
that
project
in
2018.
We
didn't
have
a
huge
budget,
so
we
were
only
able
to
capture
about
75
historic
resources
and
when
I
say
that
I
mean
like
features
in
the
build
environment,
we're
talking
about
historic
resources,
they're,
like
actual
tangible
spaces,
and
so
we
obviously
we
have
a
lot.
H
We
have
a
lot
more
to
do
because
there
are
a
lot
more
resources
than
that
citywide,
and
so
so
we
kind
of
are
like
working
our
way
through
it
in
chunks
and
so
the
second.
The
second
project
we
ended
up
working
on
was
a
project
to
help
burton
street
update
their
survey
so
that
we
could
create
a
pattern
book
from
them
for
them
and
that
was
sort
of
evolved
organically
out
of
the
I-26
mitigation
work.
H
So
that
was
something
that
we
sort
of
got
ripped
into
without
kind
of
setting
that
as
a
specific
goal
in
terms
of
our
programmatic
goals.
So
my
I
said
that's
a
long
way
to
answer
your
question,
catherine,
to
say
that
we
definitely
know
that
there
are.
You
know,
big
pots
of
money
that
we
would
like
to
apply
for,
including,
like
national
trust,
funding.
The
national
park
service
has
funding
the
national
endowment
for
the
communities,
and
arts
has
funding,
there's
funding
through
the
covington
foundation,
so
we
definitely
have
some
resources
on
our
list.
H
I
hate
to
use
the
word
reacting
to,
but
we
are,
we
did
receive
the
landmark
application,
and
so
we
have
to
follow
the
process
for
the
application
to
be
reviewed
and
moved
through
that
process.
So
so
it's
not
just
that
the
landmark
designation
or
national
registry
designation
has
to
occur
for
us
to
be
eligible
for
funding.
It's
just
sort
of
happening
a
little
bit
more
organically.
I
guess,
if
you
will.
E
H
Absolutely
I'll
send
a
list
to
I'll
share
it
with
miss
brenda
and
she
can
forward
to
you
all,
because
there's
definitely-
and
I
get
a
lot
of
emails
that
are
like
from
these
different
agencies,
with
different
grant
and
funding
opportunities
that
maybe
even
outside
something
that
the
city
might
apply
for,
but
you
might
know
other
people
or
community
partners
that
would
be
interested.
So
there's
there's
definitely
a
lot
of
money
out
there
to
support
african-american.
A
Alice,
I
just
want
to
make
a
note,
because
we
have
people
we
may
have
people
on
the
line.
Listening
if
you'll
repeat
the
question
that
michael
asked,
that
would
be
great.
H
Sure
so,
okay,
so
my
background
is
sort
of
I
just
went
through
really
we
we
received
the
preliminary
application
for
local
landmark
designation
back
in
the
in
the
winter.
H
Then
we,
as
I
said
we
plugged
in
with
parks
to
do
some
community
engagement,
which
was
really
great
for
us
because
as
a
department,
we
don't
usually
have
the
opportunity
to
to
plug
in
in
the
same
ways
that
our
parks
department
does
so
we
we
did
several
different
community
events
in
the
spring
and
then
the
survey's
been
open
all
summer,
and
I
know
that
park
staff
has
been
going
door-to-door.
H
We
made
sure
that
we
create
a
mailer
that
went
out
to
every
household
in
the
south
side,
they've
been
to
goon
bay
and
I
know
they've
been.
They
went
to
one
of
the
burton
street
neighborhood
meetings
and
there
we
put
the
mailer
in
all
the
different
community
centers
around
town,
so
we've
really
tried
our
best
to
make
sure
that
the
voices
that
need
to
be
heard
or
heard
on
this.
I
know
some
of
the
comments
in
the
survey.
Were
you
know?
Why
is
this
being
opened
up?
H
You
know,
on
the
contrary,
why
is
this
being
open
up
citywide
for
comment,
or
you
know,
voting
surveying?
It's
it's
a
it's
a
challenge
for
us
to
necessarily
always
you
know,
direct
engagement
at
just
the
voices
we
want
to
be
heard.
You
know
it's,
it
can
be
challenged.
So
I'm
glad
that
we
opened
it
up
community
wide
to
be
honest
with
you,
because
we
do
recognize
that
it
is
a
community-wide
asset
and
historic,
important
historic
resource.
H
So
so,
but
once
that
survey
data
is
available
and
updated,
I'll
definitely
share
that
with
brenda.
Also,
so
she
can
pass
that
along
to
you
all,
so
the
local
landmark
historic
pro
local
historic,
landmark
program
is
housed
within
my
department
manage
the
umbrella
of
historic
resources
for
the
city
and
county.
H
It's
a
program
that
what
a
property
has
to
have
special
historic
significance
to
be
elevated
to
the
level
of
local
historic
landmark
and
the
landmark
local
store
landmark
designation
is
a
it's
a
responsibility
delegated
to
the
historic
resources
commission
by
state
statute.
But
as
I
mentioned
at
the
last
meeting,
you
know
the
sort
of
resources
commission
and
myself
really
wanted
this
group's
buy-in
and
recommendation
since
you're
obvious,
and
you
know
obviously
a
stakeholder
in
this
conversation.
H
So
it's
unusual
for
us
to
have.
We
have
we
have
some
city-owned
landmarks,
but
this
is
the
first
time
I've
shepherded
one
through.
So
it's
been
an
interesting
process.
So
far,
we've
got
49
local
landmarks
in
buncombe
county.
H
If
walton
street
is
dead
named,
it
would
be
the
50th
and
there
are
some
examples
down
at
the
bottom
of
the
page,
but
we've
also
got
all
the
all
of
the
local
landmarks
on
our
on
the
city's
website,
if
you're
interested
in
seeing
but
some
that
stand
out
related
to
african
american
history
are
the
ymi
stevens
lee
and
south
asheville
cemetery
and
the
ymi
and
south
asheville
cemetery
are
both
national
registered
listed
and
local
landmark
designated.
H
So
the
thing
that's
different
about
local
landmark
designation,
as
I
also
said
before,
is
that
it
just
means
that
if
it's
designated
any
proposed
changes
would
go
through
the
historic
resources
commission
for
review
to
make
sure
that
the
that
the
proposed
changes
were
consistent
with
this
work
character
of
the
part-
and
you
know
we
can
certainly
also
like
loop-
this
commission
in
on
any
you
know
of
those
proposed
changes
in
the
future.
H
If
that
is
helpful
to
do,
and
so
then
the
the
timeline
for
next
steps
for
us
are
it's
on
the
we're
planning
to
do
some.
Our
communication
staff
is
planning
to
include
this
in
our
neighborhood
newsletter
in
a
couple
weeks,
but
it
will
go
to
the
historic
research
commission
for
public
hearing
on
october,
the
12th
that's
wednesday
at
4
p.m,
and
the
historic
resources
commission
is
meeting
in
person
since
their
quasi-judicial
body,
and
then
it
is
scheduled
to
go
to
city
council
on
october
25th
for
the
final
public
hearing.
H
So
this
will
be
additional
opportunities
for
public
comment
to
the
recommending
and
decision
making
bodies
and
so
yeah
that
that's
my
that's
the
summation
of
my
staff
report.
But
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
other
questions
that
you
all
might
have.
B
I
hear
you
say
your
interpretation
of
preservation
that
it
doesn't
necessarily
have
to
be
like
it
was
right.
Is
that
what
you're
saying.
H
Yeah
I
mean,
I
think
you
it
like
it's
a
balance
right.
Let's
say
we
had
a.
We
created
a
board.
I
don't
think
we
published
it
to
the
community
because
we
were
like
I
don't.
We
don't
know
what,
where
we
are
with
trying
to
we're
hovering
somewhere
in
between
with
giving
ideas
and
setting
up
an
expectation
that
we
had
funding
to
do
something
right,
the
second
with
pool
of
space
itself,
but
we
did
a
bunch
of
research
on
you
know,
ways
that
pool
spaces
were
reused
and
there
were
some
pretty
cool
ideas
out
there.
H
They
were
like
little
mini
amphitheaters
or
like
a
a
community
garden
or
some
kind
of
entertainment
venue
or
something
so
anyways.
J
B
I
understand
I
understand
that
that's
that
sounds
great,
but
that's
the
only
place
my
grandparents
could
go
swim
and
you
know
it
kind
of
bothers
me
to
try
to
erase
that
you
know
we
couldn't
go
to.
They
couldn't
go
to
melbourne
hills,
they
couldn't
go
nowhere
else
and
for
someone
to
say
to
me
that
you
know
not
not
you,
I'm
not
talking,
I'm
just
saying
in
general
that
oh,
we
can
just.
We
don't
have
to
do
that
pool
we
can
do
something
else.
B
B
You
know
we
drop
the
ball
with
a
lot
of
other
historical
sites
with
stephen
lee
and
burke
street.
We
dropped
the
ball
in
a
lot
of.
We
cannot
afford
to
drop
the
ball
with
this
one.
It's
right
here
for
us.
We
have
an
opportunity
to
do
something
great
and
that's
what
so,
I'm
that's
what
I'm
hoping
you
know
and
I'm
still.
B
I
did
notice
that
more
flyers
went
out
since
the
last
meeting,
so
good
job
for
that,
but
there's
still
some
people
even
on
oakland
road
right
behind
there
don't
know
anything
about
it
and
I'm
also
afraid
that
most
of
the
people
in
that
community
with
the
age
you
know
they
don't
really
know
they.
This
is
that's
why
I
say
this
is
an
opportunity.
They
don't
really
know
the
history
of
that
and
a
matter
of
fact.
Maybe
a
lot
of
people
in
the
city.
B
Don't
know
the
history
of
that
it
can
be
so
big,
it's
so
huge
and
so
educational
it
can
make.
We
can
actually
do
something
great,
not
just
the
plaque,
not
just
a
destiny,
not
just
that
we
can
do
more.
We
have
an
opportunity-
it's
right
here
before
us,
so
that's
my
piece
on
that
and
thank
you
so
much-
and
I
was
hoping
you
guys
would
come
back
this
this
time
around,
because
I
really
I
really
care
a
lot
about
that.
That
area.
Well,
all
asheville.
B
All
of
asheville,
but
I
just
feel
like
we
have
an
opportunity
to
do
it
right
and
make
it
big
and
educational
and
we
can't
keep
a
racist
stuff.
You
know
we
got
to.
We
got
to
confront
these
these
things
we
got
to
confront
it.
We
can
make
it
beautiful.
We
can
make
it.
You
know
record.
We
can
do
all
those
things
that
that
you're
saying,
but
that
pool.
Isn't
it's
it's
important
anybody.
Oh,
we
got
some
hands:
oh
who's,
first
sandra
or
sandra
sandra.
G
First
of
all,
what
I'd
like
to
say
is
this
and
the
whole
thing
about
this
when
we
were
doing
the
grant
center
pool?
G
So
this
gives
an
opportunity
to
expand,
like
you
said,
to
actually
make
the
pool
big
enough
and
useful
for
the
community
and
still
preserve
it's
it's
it's.
You
know
it's
original
history,
so
I
think
that
is
a
better
route
that
people
would
be
more
interested
in,
because
that's
what
we
were
concerned
about
the
the
kiddie
pool
the
pool
down
there
did
not
allow
us,
the
you
know
the
community
to
be
able
to
have
a
real
swimming
area.
You
know
area
for
that.
G
So
that's
the
way
we
could
look
at
it
air
and
that
way
we
actually
could
preserve
it
for
what
it
is
expound
on,
especially
getting
our
children,
early,
education
and
swimming.
You
know
things
like
that
that
they
don't
really
have
access
to,
so
it
could
actually
work.
You
know
tremendously,
so
that's
the
route
like
you
said.
G
I
hope
that,
like
you,
said
the
preservation
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,
preservation
means
abuse
and
for
use
we
won't
don't
want
to
use
it
for
anything
other
than
you
know
a
pool,
and
so
I
think
yeah
so
we're
on
the
all.
On
the
same,
you
know
a
track
as
far
as
what
we'd
like
to
see,
and
I
think
the
community
would
love
to
see
that
too.
A
Everything,
that's
been
said
has
been
great.
I
actually
want
to
make
sure
you
asked
alex
a
question.
I
think
she
answered
your
question,
but
I
don't
think
you
understood
we're
not
changing
that
to
be
something
else,
we're
just
preserving
the
fact
that
it's
historic,
if
you
raise
the
funds
and
you
want
to
put
a
pool
back
there
and
the
city
wants
to
match
those
funds,
absolutely
a
pool
can
go
back
there.
What
she's
saying
to
you
is
we
don't
have
any
plans
to
do
anything.
A
H
You
know
I'm
wasn't
part
of
that
decision-making
process,
so
I
was
sort
of
on
the
sidelines
watching
all
of
that
happen
so
fast
forward
to
where
we
are
now.
I
think
you
know.
Preservation
means
that
we
are
honoring
the
history
first
and
foremost,
and
that
you
know
if,
if
we
can
get
down
the
road
and
that
use
can
still
be
in
city
staff,
that
or
you
know,
city
council
agrees
that
they
want
to
fund
it
to
be
a
pool
use
again,
then
we
are
all
for
that.
H
H
So
so
I
really
appreciate
you
all
hearing
me
and
all
my
spiel.
I
know
it's
a
lot
of
information.
B
H
I'm
with
you,
I've
been
really
excited
to
work
on
this
because
I
feel
like
it's.
It
is
like
you
said
it's
opportunity,
it's
the
first
word
that
came
into
my
mind
to
to
help
celebrate
the
community,
especially
since,
as
the
report
you
know
thoroughly
highlights
how
how
how
impacted
this
part
of
our
african-american
community
was
affected
by
our
renewal
projects
over
time,
and
we
don't
have
very
many
institutional
resources
and
community-wide
resources
like
this
left.
So
we
definitely
want
to
want
to
help
the
neighborhood
honor
it
as
best
we
can.
J
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
say
here
here
to
all
that
was
just
said.
I
would
love
to
see
this
pool
become
a
swimming
hole
again
and
if
this
body
decides
to
pursue
any
sort
of
grant
applications,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
you
know
that
any
of
the
research
that
I
did
any
of
the
writing
that
I
did
I'd
be
happy
to
help
or
assist
and
share.
However,
I
can,
I
think,
it's
a
really
important
project.
D
I
raised
my
hand.
This
is
michael
hayes,
commissioner,
hayes
that
race
manages
to
say
thank
you
for
offering
that
we
know
that
as
we
apply
as
we
start
looking
for
stuff,
we
know
that
you
know
having
this
information
is
going
to
be
vital
in
order
for
us
to
you
know,
pursue
funding.
So
thank
you
for
offering
that
to
us
joseph
greatly.
I
greatly
appreciate
it.
Thank
you.
A
On
chair
griffin,
yes,
ms
cole
is
here
for
you
to
give
a
motion
and
approval
to
move
forward
to
go
to
historic
resources,
and
then
the
city
council,
with
the
landmark
designation,
so
we'll
need
a
motion
to
wreck
that
the
african-american
heritage
recommend
moving
forward
with
the
landmark
designation
application.
A
B
B
Next,
we
have
josie
ward
president
of
the
preservation,
no,
no,
no
okay!
So
next
brenda
we
have
you
next.
A
Yes,
so
I
just
want
to
give
you
just
a
really
quick
update
about
our
vacancies.
You're
currently
at
six
board
members
we're
needing
to
replace
three
diamond
couch
replaced
beverly
miller,
whose
term
ended
in
july.
A
I
just
talked
to
leonard
before
we
started
meeting
leonard
jones,
our
representative
from
the
county,
and
we
are
advertising
for
the
vacancy
left
by
the
resignation
of
ms
lynn,
michelle
smith,
miss
georgia.
Shannon's
term
ended
in
june
july,
11.
she's,
a
commission
appointment,
and
so
next
time
we
get
applications.
A
You
guys
can
make
the
recommendations
for
the
board
members
and
then
you
can
choose
to
appoint
another
person
to
replace
miss
georgia,
and
then
we
did
vote
to
replace
stephen
blunt
according
to
his
resignation,
so
they're
they're
advertising
again
in
october.
So
hopefully
we
will
have
most
of
these
seats
filled
by
the
end
of
the
year.
Just
wanted
to.
Let
you
know
that.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
Yeah
did
you
want
to
say
anything
else
about
the
meeting
format
or.
A
Yes,
so
this
is
coming
to
council,
I
believe
on
tuesday,
michael,
you
have
a
dancer
behind
you.
A
That's
great
that
warmed
my
heart,
but
the
count
we're
we're
looking
at
polling
the
advisor
boards
as
to
whether
you
want
to
go
back
in
person
or
stay
virtual.
The
only
caveat
is,
if
you
decide
to
stay
virtual,
you
must
stay
virtual
for
a
year.
If
you
go
back
in
person,
you
must
be
in
person
for
a
year
short
of
another
pandemic,
praise
the
lord.
A
We
don't
have
another,
you
would
stay
in
person
if
you
decided
to
go
back
in
person,
so
I
just
need
to
know
what
you
what
you
all
would
like
to
do
and
then
once
we
hear
from
council
on
tuesday
I'll
know
more
from
the
clerk's
office.
B
E
Just
weigh
in
all
right,
okay,
then
I'll
I'll
give
my
opinion.
I
would
prefer
to
remain
virtual
because
it
allows
us
the
flexibility
of
continuing
without
regard
for
weather
and
weather
conditions.
D
Okay,
I'm
telling,
on
my
mic,
see
I'll,
hear
the
chaos
that's
going
on
in
my
house
right
now,
so
so
so
I
like
virtual,
because
it
allows
me
to
do
other
things
while
we're
having
these
meetings,
but
virtual
or
not
man.
D
Of
course,
we
all
in
the
community
talking
to
community
members
right
so
virtual
or
not
man.
I
just
want
us
to
be
persistent
in
how
we
keep
connecting
and
building
on
what
we're
doing.
Now
I
love
the
group
that
we
have.
I
can't
wait
to
get
new
new
members
in.
I
don't
even
know
how
long
my
term
is.
I
don't
know
how
much
longer
I
got
left.
D
I
do
know
this
works
for
me,
so
virtual
is
cool.
I
would
love
for
us
to
be
in
person
because,
of
course,
y'all
know,
I'm
a
people
person
I
love
being
around
folks,
but
virtual
allows
me
to
do
what
I
need
to
do
and
still
take
care
of.
My
family
still
take
care
of
your
mojo,
and
you
know
my
business
and
still
be
able
to
be
present
so.
I
We
both
didn't
know,
I
would
prefer
virtual
with
it
with
this
being
on
thursdays.
I
just
for
the
work
day
and
what
that
looks
like
for
me.
I
prefer
the
flexibility
of
staying
virtual,
although
I
would
love
to
meet
in
person.
I
think
the
flexibility
of
virtual
is
important,
especially
on
thursdays.
For
me,.
C
K
Diamond
and
ashley
y'all
don't
have
to
lie
to
kick
it
with
this
group.
Y'all
don't
have
to
pretend
like
y'all
would
like
to
meet
us
because
we
can
always
meet
outside.
Of
these
things.
Don't
give
me
that
okay
now
brenda
this
is
for
you.
What
is
this?
A
K
Oh,
thank
you
yeah
all
right,
but
I'm
cool
with
virtual
okay.
I
think
that
it
does
give.
I
mean
y'all
y'all
know
me.
I
go
crazy
with
these
kids
so
like
to
be
able
to
do
that
and
then
make
it
downtown.
I
I
don't
know
I
think.
Like
michael
said,
you
can
get
other
things
done
like
as
soon
as
someone
says
something
you
could
be
right
there
and
check
it
out
and
be
like
all
right
yeah.
We
can
make
this
happen,
so
I
prefer
virtual,
but
I
would
like
to
meet
diamond
and
ashley
though
okay.
A
Was
gonna
say
that
I
was
gonna
suggest
that
you'll
have
to
do
that?
I
can't
send
you
an
email
and
get
you
all
together.
It'd
be
nice
if
you
invited
me,
but
if
you
want
to
meet
like
somewhere
and
have
a
drink
or
dinner
or
something
as
long
as
you
don't
trust
discuss
business.
Let's
do
it.
A
A
But
I
do
think
it's
important
to
have
that
interaction
when
you
can
do
it
at
a
little
more
leisurely
schedule.
I
know
it's
hard,
I
don't
know
to
me.
A
Maybe
something
happened
during
the
pandemic,
but
since
the
pandemic,
I
think
traffic
is
worse,
but
I
also
think
I
know
that
a
lot
of
people
have
moved
to
asheville
since
the
pandemic
so
either
way
works.
For
me,
I'm
fine
to
do
virtual.
You
know
we've
been
doing
this
for
what
two
years
now
going
on
three.
So
we'll
be
fine.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
all!
That's
it
for
me,
chair
griffin,
I.
D
Chairman
griffin,
yes,
sir,
can
I
ask
commissioner
mitchell
a
question?
Please
absolutely,
commissioner
mitchell
are
you
all
are?
Are
you
all?
Are
you
all
open
right
now
at
your
place,.
E
Well,
when
what
do
you
call
open.
D
You
know
for
us
to
engage
in
conversation.
That
is
not
particularly
about
the
commission,
but
for
us
to
meet,
because
I
think
your
place
holds
a
historical
value
that
I
think
we
all
need
to
visit
in
order
to
understand
what
we
can.
What
we
can't
accomplish.
D
E
B
K
Poll
anyone
hip
to
those
I
am
okay,
michael
then,
you
just
self
nominated
to
make
a
doodle
poll
for
us
to
get
a
time
together.
Let's
really
knock
this
out.
This
is
big
to
me.
This
is
like
really
really
big.
I
think
it
is
for
everyone,
it's
gonna
for
you
for
y'all,
that
don't
know
me
yo,
I'm
silly
and
I'm
down
for
pretty
much
whatever,
but
it's
like
we
can.
K
We
can
do
this
if
we
all
come
together
because
individually,
ain't
gonna
shake
for
us,
so
let's
use
our
power,
but
also
at
the
same
time,
let's
get
to
know
who
we're
supporting,
who
we're
standing
out
there
with,
because
this
is
a
battle
man
only
ain't
playing.
All
of
this
has
to
do
with
specific
terms.
It's
a
battle,
just
mention
it
in
certain
rooms.
K
So
I
like
to
look
on
both
sides
and
know
that
the
person
right
there
is
going
hard
just
like
I
am
I
like
to
know
what
they're
going
hard
for
so
I'll
tell
you
I'll
go
hard
for
my
family,
so
the
future
generations
don't
have
to
go
through
as
much
of
the
bull
as
we
do.
I'm
not
asking
for
complete
clear
that
would
be
cool,
but
in
reality,
just
like
a
little
bit
less,
maybe
know
how
to
navigate
this
thing
called
life
a
little
better.
All
right,
I'm
gonna
mute
off
y'all
my
bad!
Thank
you.
K
B
All
right,
so
anyone
else
brenda
do
we
have
anyone
waiting
in
a
live
comment
section
we
do
not
chair
griffin.
We
do
not
all
right
so
and
there's
any
future
agenda
items
we
no
okay.
B
So
the
next
regular
meeting
is
scheduled
for
thursday
october
the
13th
2022,
and
we
will
notify
the
public
if
we
will
continue
well,
we
already
know
but
continue
virtually
or
in
person
once
the
state
of
emergency
is
lifted,
which
is
this
check
the
city's
engagement
hub
for
more
directions
on
how
to
participate?
Oh
man,
this
is
great.
B
I
will
now
join
the
meeting
unless
it's
in
objections
so
adjourned
y'all.
Thank
you
have
a
good
one.
All
right
good
evening.
Welcome
diamond
everybody.
Welcome.