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A
Brian
moffitt
and
I
would
like
to
welcome
you
to
the
meeting
of
the
asheville
downtown
commission
for
june
10th
2022,
the
asheville
downtown
commission
was
created
by
the
city
council
for
the
sustainability
and
continued
development
of
downtown
a
vital
urban
center
of
western
north
carolina's
economic,
cultural
and
visitor
activity.
The
downtown
commission
provides
city
council
with
recommendations
on
downtown
policies
and
initiatives.
A
In
addition,
downtown
commissioners
currently
fill
four
out
of
nine
seats
of
the
city's
design
review
committee,
which
reviews
development
projects
within
the
central
business
district,
the
river
arts,
district
and
hotel
projects
outside
of
those
areas.
The
downtown
commission
also
has
the
opportunity
to
provide
input
on
projects
outside
of
the
scope
of
design
review.
All
committee
members
and
staff
are
participating
virtually.
We
appreciate
your
patience
as
we
continue
this
process.
A
We
are
streaming
live
on
our
virtual
engagement
hub,
which
is
accessible
through
the
virtual
engagement
hub
link
on
the
front
page
of
the
city
website,
and
also
linked
on
the
committee
page.
We
have
an
option
for
the
public
to
listen,
live
by
phone
and
for
anyone
out
there
with
us
today.
Welcome
this
time
I'll
go
through
and
introduce
the
committee
members
who
are
participating,
you
folks
know
how
to
mute
and
unmute.
A
A
Good
morning
I
thought
yeah
ruth
summers
present,
hey
ruth
and
sage
turner.
Our
city
council
representative,
will
be
logging
in
a
little
later,
as
I
understand
very
good
at
this
time
to
help
our
audience
follow
along.
I
will
state
each
section
of
the
agenda
and
and
walk
through
it,
and
we
will
also
do
a
roll
call
as
we
vote.
Our
first
item
on
the
agenda
is
the
approval
of
our
minutes.
A
You're
great
draft
action
minutes
a
motion
to
approve
or.
A
I'll,
second,
that
there
you
go
very
good.
The
motion
to
approve
was
by
robin,
and
the
second
was
by
geo
I'll
go
through
the
roll
kimmy.
D
G
D
C
A
Perfect,
thank
you
as
we
launch
into
the
agenda.
First
of
all,
do
we
have
any
public
comment.
A
Very
good,
thank
you.
Our
first
item
of
new
business
is
a
development
impact
review
for
create
a
project
called
create72
broadway
and
I
think,
will
is
going
to
provide
this
to
us.
I
know:
we've
we've
looked
at
this
a
couple
of
times
go
ahead.
Geo.
G
Regarding
this,
could
you
plea
use
a
I
was
trying
to
picture
exactly
where
it
is
on
broadway.
Can
you
tell
me
what
the
adjoining
buildings
are?
I
just
can't
place
it
in
my
mind,.
A
It's
it's.
If
you're
standing
looking
at
the
masonic
temple,
there's
the
masonic
temple,
there's
the
parking
space
and
then
it's
the
space
right
beside
their
parking
lot.
A
That
help-
and
you
know
I
think
you
folks-
have
our
draft
impact
checklist
again.
We
can
look
at
design.
Obviously,
dr
this
is
coming
to
drc
on
the
something
that's
next.
A
Thursday,
we've
looked
at
this
several
times.
I
think
we've
looked
at
it
here
as
well,
and-
and
I
think
this
is
their
final
submission
submittal.
I
think
the
applicants-
the
architects-
are
here
to
answer
any
questions
we
have
and
I
will
turn
it
over
to
will.
I
Great
thanks
brian
will
pompous
with
planning
and
urban
design.
I'm
going
to
share
share
some
of
the
submitted
plans.
B
I
Are
also
in
the
there's
a
link
to
the
submission
folder
through
the
downtown
commission
meeting
materials,
so
you
can
check
out
the
other
submissions
at
your
leisure
I'll,
just
start
with
this
graphic
here,
as
mentioned,
this
is
a
proposed
mixed-use
project
located
at
72
broadway
street,
located
between
rowan
coffey
and
the
masonic
temple,
and
their
parking
lot
what's
being
proposed
is
a
total
nine
story,
tall
building,
it's
about
a
quarter,
acre
lot
zone
cbb
and
it's
in
the
traditional
downtown
core.
In
the
intermediate
height
zone.
I
They
are
proposing
22,
hotel
guest
rooms,
18
condominium
residential
units
and
about
2
000
square
feet
of
commercial
space
on
the
ground
floor,
there's
also
43
structured
parking
spaces
proposed
with
one
level
being
below
ground
and
then
two
levels
of
parking
above
ground
total
gross
square
footage
is
just
under
100
000
square
feet.
I
This
is
a
level
two
size
project,
so
it
will
be.
It
will
go
to
design
review
committee
next
thursday
and
pending
a
positive
outcome
from
that.
It
would
then
go
on
to
planning
zoning
commission
for
a
ministerial
review
just
to
confirm
that
the
project
meets
all
the
requirements
in
the
unified
development
ordinance.
I
So
let
me
see
here,
I'm
gonna
zoom.
In
a
little
bit,
you
can
get
a
better
sense
of
the
building.
I
You
can
kind
of
see
the
the
two
level
kind
of
base
of
the
building
that
aligns
more
or
less
with
the
adjacent
commercial
building
where
rowan
coffee
is
it
steps
up
to
four
stories
which
matches
for
the
most
part,
the
overall
height
of
the
masonic
temple
further
north.
This
is
kind
of
a
street
wall
height.
So
a
lot
of
this
building
is
designed
around
the
the
cbd,
design,
standards
and
requirements.
So
at
the
four
stories
they
have
to
step
the
building
back
for
at
least
two
thirds
of
the
frontage.
I
As
you
can
see
here
with
these
these
balconies,
the
there's
been
a
little
bit
of
changing
about
how
the
vehicles
will
access
the
parking
that
was
originally
proposed
off
the
rear
on
the
alley.
But
there's
been
some,
I
guess
issues
with
securing.
I
I
guess
access
via
that
private
alley
for
the
building,
so
they
have
moved
the
the
access
for
vehicles
onto
broadway.
So
you
can
kind
of
see
here
on
this
on
this
curb
cut
parking,
a
few
street
trees
and
an
entrance
that
I'll
I'll
show
later
in
a
better
view
that
they
provided
as
far
as
like
materials,
go
see
here.
I
I'll
put
to
this
page,
proposing
a
few
main
materials
kind
of
the
center
center
elements
being
this
kind
of
synthetic
insulated
wall
system
in
a
a
brick
pattern,
this
medium
iron
spot
color
with
a
light
gray
banding.
I
So
you
can
kind
of
you
can
see
that
on
these
on
these
renderings
and
on
the
elevations
as
well,
we
kind
of
solidify
the
center
bay
of
design,
there's
also
a
limestone
colored
stucco
material,
which
you
can
see
kind
of
wrapping
around
sides
of
the
building,
and
this
it
looks,
got
a
beige
in
this
color,
but
and
then
also
the
a
couple
different
options
for
like
a
metal
gray,
a
metal
panel,
as
you
can
see
in
this
lighter
color
as
well.
Here.
I
As
mentioned,
the
public
realm
improvements
include
a
10
foot
wide
new
sidewalk
with
brick
banding
and
a
brick
plaza
for
the
main
pedestrian
entrance
here,
which
is
recessed
off
of
the
main
main
kind
of
front
wall
of
the
building.
You
can
see
the
new
street
trees
bicycle
parking
identified
here,
and
here
there's
also
some
opportunity
for
some
public
art
that
they're
considering
commissioning
as
well.
I
So
this
project,
as
mentioned,
was
informally
reviewed
by
the
design
review
committee
about
four
times
total
and
the
project
has
kind
of
evolved
along
the
way
you
know
last,
the
last
review
back
on
may
19
spoke
a
lot
about
you
know
using
a
consistent
material
in
the
center
feature
center
bay
of
the
building
which,
which
they've
done
in
this
final
review
and
final
submission
trying
to
make
the
material
changes
around
the
building
less
busy,
which
I
think
they've
accomplished,
kind
of
rationalizing
some
of
those
material
changes
and
making
things
a
bit
more
unified
trying
to
make
the
relationship
between
the
lower
floors
of
the
building
and
the
upper
floors
more
related
and
consistent,
and
then
also
just
to
provide
more
renderings
of
what
the
building
would
look
like
at
the
ground
level.
I
So
they
have
provided
a
number
of
views
of
this
building
I'll
just
step
back
here
briefly,
so
this
is
kind
of
looking
north
east
throwing
coffee
to
the
to
the
south.
Here
this
is
looking
kind
of
behind
the
building
from
north
market
street,
looking
northwest
the
parcel
kind
of
zigs
and
zags.
I
I
And
then
looking
to
be
kind
of
west
as
well
a
few
more
views
included.
This
is
a
good
kind
of
site
site
plan
view.
So
this
is
the
proposed
building,
as
as
proposed
in
the
site,
existing
commercial,
the
south
side
temple
to
the
north.
I
So
that
you're,
looking
south,
you
can
kind
of
see
the
relationship
of
the
building
to
other
taller
structures
in
the
downtown
and
the
relationship
of
you
know
significant
other
buildings
nearby
as
well.
I
All
these,
but
this
is
a
good
view
showing
the
proposed
building
here:
rowan
coffee
adjacent
to
it,
and
also
the
masonic
temple
and
the
proposed
building
as
well.
And
then
this
is
from
market
street.
Looking
north,
seeing
the
building
off
to
the
left.
I
You
see
here,
I
will
briefly
go
through
some
of
the
development
impacts
themes.
We
talked
about
a
little
bit
about
parking
and
multi-modal,
so
you
know
it
would
be.
It
would
be
better
if
the
vehicular
access
was
all
off
the
alley,
but
that
is
kind
of
an
issue.
Given
the
private
alley
nature,
they
are
improving
the
the
streetscape
and
you
know,
with
street
trees
and
better
materials.
So
that's
you
know
urban
design
consideration
that's
being
improved
as
well.
I
They're,
also
adding
some
ground
floor
retail
to
help
with
economic
development
in
the
area.
The
property
currently
is
just
a
surface
parking
lot
livability
in
24,
7
mixed-use
districts.
You
know
it
is
a
mixed-use
building
with
with
hotel
use
and
also
residential
and
commercials.
That
kind
of
will
enliven
this
area
of
downtown
in
general,
as
well.
I
Regarding
sustainability
elements,
they're
considering
some
kind
of
green
roof
or
or
similar
design
feature,
as
you
can
kind
of
see
in
some
of
these
renderings,
they
have
not
decided
on
that
aspect.
Yet
some
of
that
is
is
the
consideration
around
the
required
public
benefits
for
hotels.
I
So
there
are
points
awarded
because
it's
a
fewer
than
35
35
rune
hotel
use
they'd
have
to
have
140
points.
Some
of
those
points
could
be
provided
with
leed,
certification
or
other
kind
of
environmentally
friendly
building
design
elements
they're
also
required
in
regards
to
equity
and
racial
justice.
They
are
required
to
have
at
least
50
percent
of
their
points
come
from
areas
such
as
kind
of
donation,
so
to
speak
or
or
funds
going
to
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund
or
the
reparations
fund
based
on
the
number
of
proposed
guest
rooms.
I
And
then
you
know
in
general
alignment
with
the
downtown
master
plan
and
living
asheville
comprehensive
plan
and
that
you
know
that
provide
opportunity
for
a
growing
region
places
for
people
to
live
and
that
sort
of
thing
the
materials
are
really
mostly
consistent
with
surrounding
buildings.
So
the
you
see
the
brick
a
lot
of
historic
brick
buildings
in
the
area
that
this
this
design
will
kind
of
help
to
be
in
alignment
with.
I
Pretty
much
it's
all
the
highlights.
We
also
have
the
architect
peter
alvarez
from
mha
works
architecture
on
the
line
he's
around
to
answer
any
any
questions
that
the
committee
members
might
have,
I'm
also
glad
to
answer
any
questions
as
well
and
show
any
other
views
or
exhibits
that
the
committee
would
like.
A
But
before
stephen
lee
gets
started
on
the
streetscape,
I
just
wanted
to
ask
if
we
actually
knew
what
points
they
were
going
for,
since
this
is
a
final
submittal,
and
I
think
this
is
the
this
is
the
last
time
it
comes
to
this
group
is
that
right
will.
A
Yeah
sure
I
just
I
just
was
secure,
I
mean
you're
saying
well,
they
might
do
this.
They
might
do
that.
They
might
do
this.
They
might
do
that.
It's
it's
a
little
hard
for
us
to
provide
input
on
all
the
might
do's
right.
So,
okay,
I'll
hush
and
let
them
let
them
address
that
and
then,
if
there
are
any
other
questions
or
comments
that
the
commission
might
have.
J
Brian,
the
yes,
we
will
be
making
the
the
contribution
based
on
35
guest
rooms
to
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund,
the
other,
the
two
choices
that
we're
weighing
right
now.
One
is
to
go
for
a
single
green
globe,
certification,
which
would
bring
us
to
140
required
points
or
because
part
of
this
building
will
be
staffed
because
it's
a
hotel
to
set
set
it
up
to
have
to
meet
the
living
wages
requirement,
which
would
be
more
points.
But
it's
something
that
the
owner
developer
does
anyway
on
all
their
their
other
projects.
J
So
right
now
what
what
they're
doing
is
weighing
the
the
desirability
of
one
or
the
other
they're
interested
as
a
separate
item,
whether
it's
screen
globe
certified
or
not.
Looking
at
the
idea
of
the
green
roof
as
a
as
a
stand-alone
item
that
they
would
put
in
knowing
that
there's
not
points
for
that,
unless
it's
wrapped
into
a
green
globe
or
lead
type
of
certification,
which
is
why
we're
we're
showing
it
here.
J
But
just
so,
everyone
understands
that's
one
of
the
options:
they're
weighing
right
now,
so
they're
they're
comfortable
with
the
the
required
points.
It's
just
that
they
haven't
made
the
decision
yet
on
whether
to
go
with
green
globes
or
living
wages.
I
at
the
moment
they're
leaning
more
towards
the
living
wages,
because
that's
something
that
they're
they
try
to
do
internally
to
support
people
financially,
who
work
for
their
company
there's
a
lot
of
the
the
management
and
senior
staff
who
work
with
them
started
out
managing
hotels
or
working
cleaning.
J
A
So
so
peter
they,
they
feel
like
they're,
going
to
provide
the
living
wage,
whether
or
not
they
claim
points
for
it,
so
they
might
as
well
get
go
ahead
and
get
points
for
it,
but
then
the
the
other,
the
other
option,
the
green
globe
option
which
just
so
everyone
understands
that's
a
third
party
certification.
It
doesn't
necessarily
change
the
design
of
the
building
it.
It's
it's.
A
How
we
look
at
getting
30
third-party
certification,
on
the
design
and
and
then
and
then,
as
part
of
that
option,
is
the
potential
for
a
green
roof,
but
the
green
roof
may
come
in
whether
or
not
they
do
the
green
globe.
Have
I
summarized
that
correct.
A
So
the
two-
the
two
things
were
most
likely
to
get
out
of
this,
then
for
public
benefit,
would
be
the
the
trust
fund
contribution
and
then
most
likely
a
living
wage
certification.
Is
that
correct,
correct?
Thank
you.
C
Hey
thanks
brian
hey
peter,
just
a
couple
of
thoughts
on
this
well.
First,
a
question
on
the
north
face
of
the
building
on
the
second
level:
there's
some
bright
green
items
in
the
illustration.
What.
C
J
The
purzu
patel
he's
interested
in
using
green
roof
or
some
type
of
landscaping
where
the
building
steps
back.
So
that's
just
an
idea
that
we
had
that
at
that
corner
we
could
introduce
some
type
of
green
scape
on
that
set
that
step
back
and
that's
probably
the
only
place
where
we
would
do
that,
because
we're
contemplating
and
at
some
point
the
masonic
lodge,
may
build
a
new
building
or
a
parking
structure
north
of
us.
We
wouldn't
want
to
create
a
situation
where
there
would
be
plantings
of
that.
J
That
would
never
have
any
daylight
hit
them
here
is
to
this
is
part
of
another
component
of
this,
which
is
a
sculptural
piece.
That
berger
would
like
to
commission.
J
That
is
on
the
corner,
that's
sort
of
shown
in
that
light,
green
color,
that's
actually
a
metal
sculpture
that
would
wrap
the
corner
and
would
also
have
a
a
pylon
element
out
in
the
sidewalk
similar
to
there's
a
pylon
element
on
lexington
north
lexington
near
downtown
brooklyn
news
where
the
crosswalk
is
we're
thinking,
maybe
something
similar
to
that
and
what
that
would
do
is
well.
If
you
can
zoom
back
out
a
little
bit
or
go
to
the
go
to
the
view
on
either
of
the
street
views
on
broadway.
J
I
know
the
other
one,
the
yeah,
that
well
yes
right
here,
where
the
center
for
craft
there
will
be
the
installation,
that's
that
they're
partnering
with
the
the
cherokee
nation
to
do
apartheid
and
coming
up
or
south
on
biltmore
or
broadway.
At
that
point,
there'll
be
an
installation
on
the
right
hand,
side,
that's
an
art
piece,
we're
proposing
to
do
a
an
installation,
that's
more
tied
in
with
the
architecture
of
the
building
that
you
would
see-
heading
south
on
the
left
hand
side.
J
So
the
idea
is
that,
because
there's
such
a
a
main
emphasis
on
promoting
the
art
galleries
on
broadway
and
biltmore
avenue
that
this
would
be
an
opportunity
to
do
some
type
of
a
gateway
from
the
north
heading
south
into
downtown.
So
that's
the
logic
behind
that.
We
know
that
at
some
point
there
will
be
a
new
building
in
the
parking
lot
between
us
and
the
masonic
lodge.
So
we
need
to
pull
whatever
we
do
as
close
to
the
northeast.
J
C
I
have
a
question
about
the
green
roof
you're
coming
to
design
review
next
week.
For
the
last
time,
I
guess
for
final
review.
Yes,
so
I
think
it's
going
to
be
important
in
that
meeting,
if
possible,
to
to
be
able
to
say,
there's
going
to
be
a
green
roof
or
we
are
not
proposing
a
green
roof
and
not
have
it,
it
is
not
being
proposed
not
having
it
on
the
rendering.
C
Just
because
I
think
it's
such
an
important
aspect
of
being
able
to
accept
new
hotel
projects
like
this
downtown,
but
a
question
for
you
that
just
popped
into
my
head,
peter,
you
designed
a
building
on
biltmore
just
down
the
street
from
the
orange
peel,
and
it
was
a
similar
scale,
maybe
not
quite
as
big,
but
it's
a
residential
building.
C
When
you
came
through
design
review
on
that
you
and
you
did
not
present
the
concept,
I
don't
believe
the
concept
of
a
green
roof
on
that
building,
but
there's
a
green
roof
on
that
building
today,
and
I
don't
know
if
anybody
else
knows
that
other
than
city
staff,
but
there's
an
incredible
green
roof
on
that
building.
I'm
just
curious
why
there
was
a
financial
reason
to
do
that
there
had
to
have
been,
but
why
did
y'all
end
up
putting
your
green
roof
on
that?
It
looks
fantastic.
J
J
So
stephen
lee,
I
understand,
I
think
we
need
to
pick
a
lane
before
next
week
and
make
a
decision
on
it
on
the
145
bill
more
project.
If
you
haven't
seen
it,
if
you
stand,
you
walk
down
lexington
or
stand
at
the
front
door
to
the
co-op
and
look
south.
You
can
see
it
about
a
week
or
so
ago,
all
the
wild
flowers,
bloomed
yeah
and
looked
phenomenal
and
where
this
will
be
the
third
green
roof
project
that
we've
done.
J
The
first
one
was
the
roof
on
the
garage
apartments
that
and
it
those
flowers
a
little
bit
different
and
it
bloomed
as
well.
But
the
nice
thing
about
the
the
green
roof.
The
the
way
it's
set
up
is
it.
It
doesn't
require
a
whole
lot
of
work
to
maintain
it
and
it
provides
so
much
benefit
to
the
project.
So
we're
encouraging
the
patels
to
go
ahead
and
do
this.
J
They
like
the
idea
of
helping
with
storm
water
mitigation
and
some
of
the
projects
that
they
have
underway
in
in
florida,
for
example,
where
they
need
to
deal
with
storm
water
mitigation
more
than
we
do
here.
They've
start
to
really
open
up
to
the
idea
like
it,
so
we're
we're
going
to
pursue
it,
we'll
just
and
have
a
decision
one
way
or.
C
The
other,
well
I
I
think
that
I
won't
speak
for
the
other
design
review
committee
members,
but
for
me
next
week,
when
we
review
this,
I
think
it's
really
critical,
that
the
owners
include
this
green
roof
in
this
project
and
we're
especially
given
your
expertise
in
this
and
the
number
you've
done,
but
I
just
think
it's
incredibly
important
that
this
go
in
not
just
for
the
stormwater
reasons,
but
for
the
impact
this
is
going
to
have
to
the
general
public
and
the
perception
of
the
building
physically
and
mentally.
B
A
Okay,
that's
fair
peter
for
for
next
week.
I'm
gonna
want
to
zero
in
on
that,
as
we're
looking
at
this
image
on
the
screen
that
that
that
that
front
corner
right
there,
that
north
corner
on
on
yeah
that
one
right
there
there's
a
couple
images,
but
I'm
gonna
want
a
really
good
rendering
of
what
that
looks
like
because
that's
man,
so
many
people
enter
the
city
that
way
and
that's
gonna,
be
the.
A
I
want
it
to
wow
us
and
I
think
I
think
you've
worked
on
it
pretty
hard.
I
can.
I
can
tell
there's
a
lot
of
effort
in
that
I'm
just
going
to
want
to
streetscape
kind
of
a
really
good
rendering
of
just
that
piece.
Does
that
make
sense.
A
Yeah,
it
looks
like
a
that's.
What
I
was
concerned
is
that
all
I
see
is
like
placeholder
and
I
want
the
architecture
to
speak
well
enough
that
I
don't
need
a
placeholder.
Maybe
that's
silly,
and
maybe
other
people
have
a
different
idea
about
that.
But
anyway
I
I'm
gonna
want
to
talk
about.
It
is
where
I'm,
where
I'm
pointing
you
to
ruth,
go
ahead.
D
Yeah
I
just
I
just
had
a
question.
I
know
that
section
of
broadway
pretty
well
and
I'm
just
curious.
If
transportation
has
looked
at
this
entrance
and
exit
because
that's
a
pretty
busy
corner
you've
got
that
leading
right
hand
turn,
and
I'm
just
wondering
I
can
just
see
all
kinds
of
accidents,
especially
if
somebody
tries
to
turn
left
out
of
that
parking
lot,
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
ken
putnam
and
his
group
has
looked
at
this.
Thank
you.
D
J
Let
me
try
to
answer
that
question
right
now.
There
are
two
curb
cuts
going
into
that
parking
lot
and
there's
no
way
to
circle
around
the
parking
in
order
to
exit
the
parking
lot.
If
it's
full
so
there's
times
when
cars
actually
back
out
into
broadway
to
get
back
on,
be
either
going
north
or
south.
What
we're
doing
is
we're
eliminating
one
curb
cut
and
the
depth
of
the
entry
is
is
deep
enough,
so
that
two
cars
can
stack
either
going
in
and
coming
out
and
right.
Now
people
come
out
of
that
parking
lot.
J
They
can
come
out
simultaneously
and
both
be
trying
to
make
either
a
left
hand
or
a
right
hand
turn
where
reducing
that
possibility
and
making
it
so
that
no
one
is
ever
going
to
back
out
into
the
street
they'll.
They
can
turn
around
inside
the
garage
and
come
straight
back
out
again.
So
I
think
we've
to
the
best
that
is
possible
with
this
type
of
site,
we're
able
to
mitigate
that
problem.
B
Hey
peter
so
I'll
quickly,
just
asked
about
lighting
on
this
particular
side
of
the
street
on
the
opposite
side,
there's
a
lot
of
glass,
and
so
that
glass
is
reflective.
Therefore,
street
lighting
that
the
heaviness
of
street
lighting
isn't
as
needed
or
necessary,
because
the
reflection
also
helps
with
visibility.
B
But
with
this
beautiful
kind
of
entryway
that
you
guys
have
done
with
the
brick,
it's
absorbed,
it
absorbs
light,
and
so
I
just
you
know,
want
to
know
kind
of
what
the
lighting
package
looks
like,
because
it's
very
different
on
the
other
side
and
surrounding
buildings.
Thanks.
J
Yes,
there's
on
the
front
elevation
of
the
building
there'll
be
at
least
four
sconces.
That
will
be
on
all
the
time
that
will
light
the
sidewalk.
You
can
see,
then
there's
one
on
either
side
of
the
entrance
and
then
one
at
each
retail
space,
so
they'll
shine
down
like
the
sidewalk
and
give
it
you
know
light
winning
when
it's
necessary
that
when
it's.
A
Any
other
comments
or
questions
ricardo
go
ahead.
E
Hi
peter
yeah.
D
E
For
next
week,
I
think
one
one
thing
that
I'd
like
to
talk
about
is
the
the
the
articulation
of
the
of
the
brick.
You
know
the
detailing
on
the
brick
and
and
really
the
the
patterns
of
the
materials
in
general.
E
If
we
have,
if
we
have
a
metal
panel,
you
know
what
what
is
the
pattern
of
that
metal
panel?
What
is
the
the
joint
pattern?
You
know?
What's
the
trim
like,
and
you
know
I
realize
that
these
may
be.
These
may
be
a
little
bit.
E
E
You
know
there
are
other
things
that
are,
you
know,
jumping
out
now
that
you
know
we
can
see
better.
You
know,
plus
you
know
you
have
changed
some
of
the
fenestration
on
all
of
that.
So
I
think
something
that's
going
to
be
important
is
how
how
these
materials
are.
The
the
pattern
of
the
materials
themselves,
you
know
the
like,
I
said
the
joints
on
the
metal
panel,
the
trim
that
sort
of
thing
and
then
on
the
brick.
The
just
sort
of
the
the
detailing
of
that
is
it.
E
Is
this
really
all
going
to
be
the
same
sort
of
banding
pattern,
or
is
there
going
to
be
any
any
finesse
to
it
and
then
one
note
on
the
green
roof?
If
I
can
at
least
push
you
guys
to
at
least
a
semi
intensive,
not
stay
extensive,
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
opportunity
here,
for
you
know
roof
you
know:
roof
gardens,
roof
terraces,
that
can
be
used
by
the
by
the
residents
and
the
guests
of
the
hotel
as
well
so
at
least
just
kind
of
push
to
the
minimum
semi-intensive.
J
Carl,
let
me
answer
those
questions.
We
looked
at
making
it
a
roof
terrace
that
would
be
accessible
by
the
residents
and
guests
in
the
building.
What
that
would
do,
would
that
would
make
the
roof
a
story
and
because
of
that,
it
would
push
the
building
into
or
above
100
feet
above
the
street
level
main
entry,
which
would
take
it
out
of
a
level
two
review
and
would
require
level
three
review.
J
So
we
we
did
initially
want
to
do
that,
but
because
of
the
fact
that
we
become
level
three
just
because
of
that,
we
decided
not
to
pursue
that.
Unfortunately,
to
the
question
about
the
detailing
on
the
project
that,
as
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
technical
study
that
needs
to
be
done
to
make
sure
that
the
detailing
is
done
properly,
particularly
if
it's
a,
for
example,
the
metal
panel.
We
don't
know
which
manufacturer
we're
going
to
use
yet
and
they
typically
have
standard
details
that
are
unique
to
their
product.
J
E
Know
I
I
I
understand
that
I
I
don't.
I
don't
mean
the
the
actual
detailing
I'm
I'm
just
speaking
more
in
in
broader
terms
of
the
the
patterns
you
know,
the
you
know
are
what
are
what
are
you
guys
trying
to
do
if,
if
you
have
something
in
mind
with
with
the
overall
patterns,
okay,.
E
I'm
not
I'm
no
detailing.
I.
I
understand
that.
That's
farther
down
the
line,
I'm
just
talking
about,
like
I
said
the
overall
patterns
you
know,
is
this
going
to
be,
you
know,
is
it
going
to
be
a
smooth,
you
know
flat
panel?
Is
it
going
to
be?
Is
it
going
to
have
some
sort
of
corrugation?
Is
there
going
to
be
a
a
combination?
E
You
know,
are
you
doing
reveals
things
like
that
again
things
that
may
be
farther
down
the
line,
but
I
I
just.
I
would
like
to
see
at
least
the
the
the
direction
that
you
guys
have
in
mind.
J
Okay,
the
well,
we
know
right
now,
it'll
be
some
type
of
it
will
be
a
flat
panel,
it
won't
be
corrugated
and
it
will
have
a
directional
some
direction
of
a
grid
that
will
most
likely
be
rectangular
rather
than
square.
J
So,
and
then
there
is
some
articulation
in
the
brickwork
that
we
can
talk
about
in
more
detail,
because
we
have
that
a
little
bit
more.
We
say
that
a
little
bit
more
than
the
metal
panel,
but
we
we
it's
not
an
appropriate
site
for
a
corrugated
metal
panel.
We
think
it
needs
to
be
more
of
a
flag
pale.
A
Will
quick
process
question
so
they
they
as
a
hotel
under
35
rooms
or
whatever
they
have
to
receive
for
use
by
right?
They
have
to
receive
approval
by
the
design
review
committee.
Is
that
that's
correct,
that's
correct,
and
but
they
do
not.
We
don't
have
a
formal
vote
on
it
as
the
downtown
design
commission.
Is
that
correct?
That's.
A
A
Well,
peter,
I
think
it's
come
a
long
way,
I'm
looking
forward
to
talking
with
you
about
it
next
week
and
if
anyone
has
any
additional
comments
that
you
can
you,
if
you
you
think
of
something
later,
please
just
make
that
as
like
a
public
comment
and
send
it
in
and
we'll
we'll
distribute
it
to
the
to
the
drc
prior
to
our
meeting
next
week.
A
Okay,
our
next
item
of
business,
south
south
side,
neighborhood
vision
plan.
I
feel,
like
I've
reviewed
that,
but
it
was
probably
in
a
different
meeting
so
sasha
take
it
away.
H
Thank
you
yes,
so
I
was
here
a
few
months
ago
and
I
went
in
pretty
good
depth.
Let's
see.
H
Okay
and
google
has
updated
their
whole
platform
so
now
I
can
actually
see
you
and
present
at
the
same
time,
which
is
just
a
beautiful
thing.
So
yes,
so
I
came
to
you
all
in
march
and
kind
of
went
through
every
single
piece
of
this
plan
for
the
most
part.
H
H
All
right,
so
so,
just
as
a
reminder,
the
cell
slope
vision
plan
was
started.
You
know
before
the
pandemic,
we
did
new
charrettes
meetings
in
a
pop-up
studio.
We
had
an
advisory
committee.
That's
looked
at
this
plan
since
I
was
here
at
this
meeting.
We
did
do
a
public
meeting
and
we
got
mostly
neighbors
from
joining
me
from
east
end
and
south
french
broad
came
out
and
some
south
slope
folks,
and
we
got
a
lot
of
comments
so
and
I'll
talk
about
that.
A
little
bit
later.
H
The
public
comment
part
as
a
reminder.
The
plan
has
five
main
themes
and
ten
key
initiatives.
It
strives
to
build
on
the
existing
assets.
So
we're
not.
This
is
not
like
a
kind
of
huge
blow
it
out
big
development
plan,
but
we
are
trying
to
build
on
the
assets
that
are
already
here,
and
I
put
the
vision
from
the
plan
here
and
really
you
know
I
think,
of
this
area
as
a
place.
It's
almost
like
a
almost
like
a
crossroads.
H
You
know:
we've
got
residential
neighborhoods
behind
we've
got
the
downtown
core
to
the
north.
We
have
the
hospital
district
to
the
south
and
a
lot
of
things
are
kind
of
meeting
up
in
this
area
and
it's
also
a
part
of
the
historic
south
side.
Community
chunks
of
this
area
were
a
part
of
urban
renewal.
There
wasn't
a
ton
of
urban
renewal
actually
done
in
this
and
I'll
talk
about
that
in
the
property
boundary.
The
ashland
avenue
piece
was
the
biggest
piece
where
you
know
along
ashland
avenue.
H
There
were
residences
on
that
street
and
they
they
got
removed.
So,
and
you
know
the
south
side,
the
rerouting
of
south
side
through
town.
H
So
this
is
the
vicinity
map.
You
know
we
are
calling
this
a
study
area
and
that
has
caused
a
little
confusion
for
folks,
we're
not
saying
if
you
live.
If
you
know
that
that
the
mccormick
field
is
in
south
slope
and
we're
not
saying
that
aston
park
is
in
south
slope,
but
really
they're
all
connected
and
it's
a
commercial.
These
are
the
commercial
areas
and
so
trying
to
give
those
areas,
some
attention
and
the
connections,
but
you
know
neighborhood
identities
stay
the
same.
H
But
again,
you
know
when
you
look
at
this
current
zoning
map,
we've
got
a
lot
of.
We've
got
some
more.
What
I'd
call
more
suburban
style,
zoning
in
this
area,
office,
business,
the
turquoise
color
and
the
red
regional
business,
and
it's
really
in
the
center
of
our
city
and
so
suburban
development
is
not
getting
us
the
most
value
or
it's
not
the
most
walkable
for
folks.
So
you
know
we're
envisioning
rezoning
that
but
at
the
same
time
being
sensitive
to
the
the
areas
around
it.
H
Sorry
I
do
we
did
through
the
charettes
and
meetings
do
a
character
area
map.
The
red
represents
mixed
use,
the
light
yellow
being
these
transitional
areas
next
to
neighborhoods
that
require
a
little
bit
a
little
more
finesse
and
attention
there's
a
lot
of
topography
on
both
sides.
Sometimes
that
advan
is
an
advantage
to
the
neighborhood.
H
Sometimes
it's
not
so
in
ashland,
a
lot
of
ashland
is
above
the
neighborhood
biltmore's
below
the
oakhurst
neighborhood,
and
you
know
the
blue
is
you
know
more
residential
in
in
nature
of
emphasis
and
the
purple
was
this
banks
in
buckston
area
is
a
place
that
people
felt
was
kind
of
special,
smaller
buildings,
a
little
bit
more
warehouse
few
older
industrial
buildings
that
people
feel
strongly
about,
and
then
green
is
as
parks,
unique
and
inclusive
sense
of
place.
I
think
this
is
something
that
the
city
can't
do
alone.
H
This
is
a
community
really
goal,
and
it's
it's
all
about
all
the
different
things
right.
It's
it's
includes
design
and
zoning,
but
also
businesses
are
we
making
space
for
folks
in
terms
of
lower
rents,
business
incubators,
social
events?
You
know
our
events,
inclusive
and
representative
of
different
parts
of
our
community.
H
H
You
know,
I
think,
we've
seen
a
great
emphasis
on
developing
new
bi-pac
businesses
in
nashville,
which
has
been
great
in
recent
years,
but
you
know
we
always
the
hardest
thing
in
our
economy
is
always
finding
places
for
folks.
You
know
rents
that
are
reasonable
and
especially
in
this
real
estate
market,
and
then
you
know,
there's
other
things
that
support
businesses,
the
public
infrastructure
and
the
and
the
roads
and
people
just
being
able
to
access
those
businesses.
H
Also,
as
a
part
of
this
theme,
we
added
in
affordable
housing,
so
sometimes
people
see
the
title
and
they
don't
think
of
affordable
housing,
and
we
did
get
some
comments
that
people
thought
we
weren't
emphasizing
affordable
housing
enough
in
this
plan,
but
it
is
here
and
several
in
several
places
throughout
the
plan,
so
it's
not
left
out
at
all
multimodal
transportation.
H
H
Is
about
bike
lanes
and
then
strategic
infrastructure
and
natural
environment,
which
is
a
very
big
fancy
title,
but
you
know
one
of
the
big
things
when
we
started
even
started.
This
process
was
the
lack
of
trees
in
this
area.
We
don't
have
a
lot
of
street
trees,
that's
going
to
change
as
we
have
new
developments
coming
in,
but
obviously
things
like
green
roofs,
lid,
low
impact
development
practices,
storm
water.
You
know
this
area,
as
you
all
probably
know
drains
most
of
downtown
through
here
down
to
nasty
branch,
and
I
actually
there
was
some.
H
I
think
it
was
a
saturday.
It
was
just
pouring
a
couple
weekends
ago
and
I
drove
through
here
and
it
was.
It
was
interesting,
and
then
we
have
our
10
key
initiatives.
H
H
But
or
maybe
a
private
developer
can
help
with
some
of
these
when
they
come
along
and
then
some
of
them
are
long-term
things.
We
really
want
to
be
working
on
equitable
development,
making
sure
we're
not
displacing
folks
as
much
as
possible.
It's
hard
to.
We
can't
really
control
the
market,
but
we
need
to
be
cognizant
of
that.
A
So
sasha
this
this.
What
we're
looking
at
today
is
that
we
we've
reviewed
this.
We
reviewed
it
with
you
before
you've
made
some
minor
adjustments.
Since
we
we
looked
at
it
last
time,
we
would
move
to
recommend
adoption
of
the
plan
by
city
council
and
we've
adopted
lots
of
plans.
You
know
comprehensive
plan,
different
things,
a
master
plan
who
who
on
council
besides
sage,
is
gonna
who
champions
this?
How
do
we?
A
H
So
a
couple
things
one
is
creating
an
implementation
plan
which
I
am
hoping
to
create,
at
least
the
bones
of
that
before
I
change
any
whatever
so
before
I
leave
long
story,
but
nothing
sasha.
Well,
I'm
changing
department,
so
I'm
moving
to
community
economic
development.
So,
okay,
I,
but
I
do
have
certain
commitments
to
planning
that
I
want
to
follow
through
on.
So
you
know
so
we
want
to
you
know
you
do
an
implementation
plan.
We
need
to
get
things
into
our
work
plan.
H
One
of
those
things
may
be
that
that
rezoning
of
those
shoulders
of
the
area
that
are
right
up
against
the
residential
zoning,
the
cbd
zoning,
might
be
a
little
bit
slower,
that's
a
little
more
complicated
because
we
ideally
we're
making
it
a
little
bit
more
fine
grain
than
our
it's,
not
just
slapping
cbd
on
the
map
right.
It's
our
cbd
right
now
and
a
lot
of
folks
did
it
realize
this,
and
I
will
just
go
to
this
public
comment
part.
We
got
a
lot
of
public
comment.
H
A
lot
of
comments
reinforced
the
plan
strategies.
It
was
a
lot
to
read,
so
I
don't
necessarily
assume
when
I
get
a
comment
from
somebody.
They've
read
the
entire
plan.
They
might
be.
Reading
the
you
know,
quality
built
environment
section
and
they
comment
about
affordable
housing
or
small
business
right.
So
a
lot
of
the
comments
reinforced.
You
know
the
importance
of
african-american
history
in
the
area:
affordable,
housing,
small
businesses,
grocery
store
green
space
trees.
Those
would
probably
be
the
top
comments
we
got
and
and
the
zone
the
zoning
on
those
shoulders.
H
I
was
gonna
wrap
that
up
in
some
kind
of
bow
with
that
comment,
your
question,
but
I
think
really
it's
you
know
it's
up
to
staff,
to
put
it
on
the
work
plan,
and
I
mean
implementations
of
plans.
Hopefully
are
not
just
a
political
will
kind
of
thing
right,
so
they
have
to
be
built
into
our
work
plan.
H
But
I
will
just
let
me
see,
I
sorry.
I
did
note
in
the
staff
plan
that
this
alliance
of
the
downtown
master
plan,
I
did
not
go
through
the
plan
and
cite
all
the
ways
I
could
do
that
and
I-
and
maybe
I
should
do
that
for
city
council,
but
having
you
know,
one
of
the
things
the
downtown
master
plan
did
call
for
was
the
development
of
small
area
plans
for
parts
neighborhoods
of
downtown.
So
in
a
way
this
is
carrying
out.
One
of
those
directives
talked
about
public
comments.
H
We've,
unfortunately,
got
kicked
off
the
july
agenda
for
council,
but
if
we
can
get
back
in,
I
will
get
back
in
so
that's
kind
of
where
we
are
at,
and
I
did
include
an
recommended
motion.
I
can
put
that
up
if
you
want
but
happy
to
take
any
questions
or
comments
or
requests
for
more
information.
A
Okay,
do
we
have
any
so
so
this
is
coming
as
a
staff
proposal
and
we
have
a
staff
report
and
we
have
a
suggested
motion.
So
do
we
have
any
questions
about
the
motion
as
it
stands
that
that
we
we
would
recommend
adoption
of
the
plan
by
city
council?
A
B
Hey
sasha,
thank
you
for
all
of
your
work.
I
am
wondering
you
know
this
is
oftentimes
again,
I'm
not
saying
this
is
the
purpose
of
this
particular
plan,
but
oftentimes
cbd
areas
get
expanded
or
commercial
areas
get
expanded
and
then
20
years
later
residents
are
are
at
risk
again
for
imminent
domain
and
other
things,
because
it
abuts
now
a
larger
territory.
H
Great
question:
I
am
going
to
I'm
going
to
stop
sharing
just
for
a
second,
so
I
can
go
to
a
different
slide.
That's
not
up
in
here.
H
B
H
A
it's
a
great
question,
and,
and
I'm
I'm
that's
the
kind
of
thing
we
need
help
thinking
through
for
sure.
So
the
way
we
have
this
kind
of
plotted
out
is
extending
the
cbd
into
this,
and
let
me
go
find
the
old
zoning
map
that
I
had
so
right
now.
We've
got
urban
place.
Zoning
here
at
maple,
crest,
regional
business
here
at
319
biltmore,
and
this
kind
of
part
of
biltmore
and
office
business.
B
B
H
H
But
I
do
think
that
and
that's
why
I
said
you
know
extending
the
cbd
is
not
just
plopping
it
on
the
map.
You
got
to
think
through
all
the
things,
and
you
know
right
now
in
our
cbd
we
do
have
this
transition
zone
and
it
would
be
a
good
time
to
evaluate
that
if
it's
working
or
not,
it
basically
says
for
the
first
hundred
feet.
If
you're
next
to
residential
zone,
you
really
have
to
moderate
your
heights.
H
What
I'm
envisioning
for
the
new
for
cbd-
and
I
have
to
the
emphasis
being
on
me-
not
the
entire
department
but
for
the
city.
Is
that
really
we
should
have
you
know
right
now
we
have
an
intermediate
height
zone
and
a
tallest
tight
zone.
We
do
not
have
a
lowest
height
zone
and
it
seems
like
for
some
parts
of
the
cbd.
It
would
make
sense
to
have
a
lower
height
zone
where
you're
not
putting
as
much
pressure
on
neighborhoods.
H
B
B
Way,
like
you
know,
I
I
know
you're
very
good
at
what
you
do
right.
So
I'm
not
trying
to
intimate
that.
I
have
some
magical
information
that
you
don't
already
have,
but
I
I
think
this
is
critical
to
consider
buffer
zones
that
don't
get
eaten
up
and
expanded
in
a
way
where
then
you're
pushing
into
residential
neighborhoods
in
the
future
or
by
nature
of
building
higher.
B
There's
this.
What's
what
I'm
looking
for
inherent
understanding
that
then
something
lower
can
get
pushed
into
a
neighborhood.
So
I
just
feel
like
that's
not
addressed
in
the
plan
and
I'm
wondering
if
that's
too
much
to
ask
because
it
feels
very
threatening
you
know
I'm
having
a
threatening
sense
that
like
wow,
this
is
beautiful
and
great,
but
I
can
see
a
bigger
problem
in
the
future.
H
Yeah,
it's
not
too
much
to
ask,
and
I
I
guess
I
kind
of
feel
like
it
is
in
the
plan,
but
maybe
I
need
to
add
some
wording
or
change
the
morning
to
make
it
super
clear
and
make
sure
that
we
don't
lose
that
intent.
H
If
we
were,
you
know
rezoning
this
area,
and
I
mean
I
think,
I'm
hyper
aware-
and
I
know
todd
is
too
that
you
know
this
this
area
down
here.
Mcdowell.
H
This
is
all
urban
renewal
land.
This
was
all
very
different
50
years
ago,
and
I've
looked
at
the
old
plat
maps
for
the
you
know
these
properties,
and
maybe
I
think,
there's
room
for
that
discussion
and-
and
it
should
be
a
part
of
that
rezoning
process
for
sure,
and
is
it
something
that's
more
like
we're
going
for
something
like
this
this
side
and
is
we're
thinking
more
along,
like
haywood
road
kind
of
you
know
where
it's
just
much.
It's
kind
of
we've
got
some
corridors.
H
I
think
in
our
city
that
we
can
look
to
where
our
residents
are
right
up
on
the
commercial
and
we
do
have
problems
with
hayward
road
with
noise.
If
you
ask
any
of
those
folks,
but
it's
not
generally
the
height
of
buildings,
right,
it's
what's
happening
in
the
building's
uses.
B
H
A
Kimberley
is
there,
is
there
a
a
a
change
to
the
motion
that
you
would
make
along
those
lines?
I'm
trying.
B
A
H
And
I
think
it's
also,
and
I
think
you
know
we
haven't-
I
do
think
it
also
includes,
in
my
mind,
sorry,
this
area
below
zone
a
along
mcdowell.
That's
up
against
the
neighborhood.
A
Okay,
so
whoever
makes
the
the
the
recommended
the
the
the
motion,
if
me
or
whoever
we
just
need
to
remember,
to
modify
number
three
to
say
say
that
thank
you.
Kimberly.
G
F
Would
it
help
to
say
the
strong
the
reason
that
the
buffer
zones
exist
to
keep
the
integrity
of
the
neighborhoods?
I
think.
A
H
When
so,
when
I
pass
this
on
to
pnz
and
council,
I
will
include
that.
That's
what
you
all
emphasized
and
that's
part
of
your
motion,
but
any
other
comments
welcome
to
here.
D
A
I
like
the
way
you're
sneaking
in
design
guidelines
and
everything
you're
doing.
Thank
you
any
other
comments
or
for
sasha.
Or
are
we
ready
to
make
a
motion.
A
Three
here
we
go,
provides
us
framework
for
future
development
of
buildings
and
transportation
infrastructure
and
creates
a
buffer
and
transition
zones
that
will
protect
the
adjoining
residential
areas.
That
is
what
we
said.
It
close
enough.
A
Integrity
there
you
go
as
stated
and
for
calls
for
the
support
of
local
businesses
and
development
of
affordable
housing.
A
You
robin
and
then
I
have
to
find
a
role,
so
I
can
call
roll
ready
set,
go
kimberly,
hi!
Thank
you.
Steven
lee
hi,
I'm
an
eye
robin.
K
A
K
A
A
Okay,
give
it
a
thumbs
up,
and
I
I'm
I'm
still
assuming
that's
geo,
he's
completely
in
shadow
that
is
really
sweet.
Sorry,
I'm
distracted
ricardo
hi,
miss
ruth.
G
A
And
sage
hi,
very
good.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
sasha.
You
have
done
a
lot
of
work
on
this
and
we
we
appreciate
it.
I
appreciate
it
and
I
thank
you
for
it.
A
All
right,
oh
man,
stephanie's
gonna,
get
me.
We
gotta
move
guys
downtown
bike
lanes,
ready,
set,
go.
K
Hi
everybody
I'm
jessica
morris
with
the
transportation
department.
I
will
make
this
as
quick
as
possible
so
on
the
screen.
Right
now
is
the
draft
plan
for
the
college
patent
bike
lanes,
which
we
brought
to
you
several
months
ago,
but
we
did
not
get
a
motion
of
support
and
so
that's
the
primary
purpose
we
wanted
to
bring
it
back.
K
But
what
we're
looking
at
here,
college
street,
on
the
north
patton
avenue
on
the
south
and
the
block
that
we're
looking
at,
is
basically
between
rankin
and
haywood,
and
what
we're
planning
to
change
based
on
feedback
that
we
receive
is,
if
you
see
the
red
box
towards
the
top
right,
is
that
is
a
fire
hydrant,
that's
blocked
off,
but
then
we've
got
these
parking
spaces
and
loading
zones
and
yellow
that
we've
got
shown.
K
So
that's
one
change
that
we
are
planning
to
make
and
then
the
other
one
down
here
on
pat
on
the
patent
side,
essentially
the
same
block
so
we're
between
church
street
and
lexington
avenue.
There's
looks
like
about
four
or
five
parking
spaces
here.
The
lobster
trap
parklet
is
in
here
as
well.
K
We've
spoken
with
the
owner
of
the
lobster
trap
about
potentially
or
not
potentially
but
removing
the
parklet
at
some
point
in
the
near
future,
because,
instead
of
having
the
bike
lane
come
around
the
outside
of
the
parking,
what
we're
proposing
is
to
put
it
up
against
the
curb
and
have
the
parking
spaces
below
the
bike,
lane
essentially
kind
of
mimicking
the
design
that
we
have
for
college
street.
K
The
lobster
trap
is
amenable
to
that.
We
think
that
this
is
ultimately
a
safer
design
option
and
additionally,
similarly
to
the
loading
zone,
discussion
for
college
street,
we
also
heard
from
these
businesses
here
that
they
would
prefer
to
have
loading
zones
over
parking.
So
we
are
planning
to
make-
maybe
not
every
single
one
of
these
loading
zones,
but
at
least
adding
some
and
extending
some.
K
The
other
other
plan
change
that
we
are
making
is
on
the
on
this
page
and
let
me
scroll
over
here,
so
our
original
plan.
We
had
added
an
uphill
bike
lane
on
lexington
avenue
between
college
and
patton.
So
this
center
block
right
here
is
the
aeris
hotel
and
the
the
initial
idea
was
to
connect
what
is
an
existing
bike
facility
on
lexington
on
the
north
side,
as
well
as
the
existing
bike
facility
on
the
south
side.
K
So
we
are
going
to
remove
that
piece,
and
so
really
those
are
the
major
changes
that
we're
planning
to
move
to
make
we're
going
to
be
working
with
our
consultant
to
make
those
design
changes
soon.
And
then
our
plan
is
to
write
the
bid
document
and
put
that
out
within
the
next
couple
of
months,
hopefully
and
have
installation
of
the
project
planned
for
I'll,
say
late
summer
early
fall.
K
So
I
didn't
write
up
a
motion
for
you
guys.
But
what
we're
seeking
is
a
recommendation
of
support
for
for
the
plan
and
the
project
and-
and
I
guess
your
your
blessing
to
move
forward.
E
Hi
jessica,
thank
you
for
that.
A
couple
of
a
couple
of
notes
or
a
couple
of
questions
you
mentioned,
that
some
of
these
loading
or
parking
parking
areas
were
gonna
be
turned
into
loading
zones
is.
Has
there.
D
E
Thought
to
making
that
I
mean
you
know:
loading
zones
are
a
reality
and
a
necessity
in
a
in
the
cbd,
but
it's
also
true
that
they're
not
used
all
the
time
so
is
that
is.
Has
there
been
any
thought
to
making
it
a
loading
zone
during
certain
hours
of
the
day?
So
you
know.
E
For
you
know,
deliveries
are
typically
earlier
in
the
day
or
or
they
can
be
scheduled
to
be
earlier
in
the
day.
So
we
could
have
these
areas
that
can
be
loading
dedicated.
You
know
loading
zones
only
during
say
the
first
four
or
five
hours
of
the
day.
You
know
the
morning
and
maybe
early
afternoon,
and
then
after
that
it
can
be.
You
know
public
parking
and
then
the
other.
E
The
other
suggestion
is,
I'm
wondering
if
there's
a
way
to
also
help
educate
the
public.
If
we
have,
if
we
had
sort
of
some
sort
of
system,
you
know
I'm
sure
you've
heard
of
the
so-called
dutch
reach
yeah.
This
is.
G
G
E
Your
body,
I
wonder,
there's
a
way
as
part
of
this,
this
initiative
to
also
include
some
some
signage
and
key
points.
Maybe
at
you
know
corners
or
you
know
some
certain.
You
know
the
visible
places
where
you
know
we
could
help
educate
the
public
in
you
know,
and
you
know
just
kind
of
raising
awareness
of
hey.
You
have
these
these
bike
lanes.
You
know,
maybe
at
a
you.
E
K
K
So
I
think
the
answer
to
both
of
those
questions
is
yes,
so,
for
your
first
question
about
about
loading
being
shared
with
parking
and
and
having
different
times
of
day,
where
different
uses
are
allowed,
we
actually
did
an
I'll
say
a
mini
trial
of
that
concept.
On
haywood
street
after
the
reconstruction
was
completed,
we
had
kind
of
mixed
feedback
from
business
owners
when
we
did
that,
I
think
that
that's
something
that
we
need
to
explore
as
an
overall
commercial
loading
possibility.
K
I
think,
there's
definitely
value
in
trying
to
find
a
great
and
efficient
way
to
share
the
curb
space
that
we
have,
since
it
is
a
pretty
valuable
public
amenity.
If
you
will
so
yes,
I
think
we
can
further
explore
that,
and
this
might
be
another
another
opportunity
to
test
that
out
and
then
to
your
second
question,
I
think
that's
a
great
idea.
Dooring
is
always
a
a
risk
that
you
see
when
you
have
bike
lanes.
We
do
have
the
buffer
spaces
in
between
the
bike
lanes
and
the
parking.
D
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
thank
you
jessica
for
all
of
this,
but
I
just
wanted
to
comment
that
what
I've
found
is
that
if
there's
a
loading
zone
and
there's
not
a
truck
in
it,
you're
gonna
find
a
car
parked
there
and
it
happens
all
over
downtown.
D
It
happens
around
the
grove
arcade,
where
I
was
for
many
many
years,
and
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
as
far
as
patton
avenue
years
ago,
for
those
of
you
who've
been
on
the
commission
for
a
while.
I
know
the
asheville
museum
of
science
was
very
concerned
because
they
had
some
elderly
patrons
and
they
wanted
a
handicap
spot.
So
you
know,
I
I
think
when
you
make
everything
a
loading
zone
and
you
can't
really
require
a
trucking
company
to
unload
at
a
certain
time.
D
Sometimes
trucking
companies
are
on
the
road
for
days
and
days
and
when
they
get
to
a
town
they're
going
to
unload
and
they're
going
to
leave.
So
I
I
think
you
know
limiting
the
hours
is
just
not
going
to
be
feasible
and
you
know
I
don't
know
how
the
lobster
trap
and
anyone
else
feels
about
not
having
any
handicap
parking
spaces.
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
let
me
check
the
queue
again
hold
on
sorry.
B
Thank
you
jessica,
so
I
just
want
to
say
that
we
do
live
in
a
hospitality,
town
and
the
cbd
is
really
strong
in
hospitality,
and
so,
besides
trucks,
there
are
florists
and
vans
and
cars
and
event
planners,
and
all
of
that
that
need
to
use
loading
zones,
so
maybe
expanding
the
usage
that
it
doesn't
have
to
be
a
commercial
vehicle,
but
it
actually
because
when
you
have
an
event,
it
ends
in
11
o'clock
at
night.
The
last
thing
you
want
to
do
is
huff
three
miles
down
the
street
or
two
blocks
away.
B
B
If
it's
shared
space,
please
prioritize
handicap,
we
are
losing
significantly
the
ability
for
people
with
differences
to
actually
enjoy
downtown
because
we're
prioritizing
all
parking
for
everybody
and
some
spaces
just
need
to
be
handicapped.
So
I
do
want
to
say
that
I
agree
with
ruth,
but
I
also
want
to
say
maybe
expand
the
usage
to
like
an
event
sticker
or
something
like
that,
because
when
you're,
when
you're
working,
you
need
to
be
able
to
do
your
job
without
huffing
blocks
away.
C
Just
a
quick
note
about
the
loading
zone,
kimmy
they're
actually
open
for
anybody,
that's
loading
or
unloading.
So
if
you
live
downtown
and
you're
unloading
groceries,
you
can
park
your
car
and
unload
your
groceries
in
your
building
and
then
move
your
car.
So
they're
now
open
for
everybody.
You
just
you're
not
supposed
to
be
there
more
than
30
minutes.
A
So
I'm
still
jessica,
I
apologize
I'm
a
little
unclear.
Are
we
approving
the
image
on
the
recommending
approval
of
the
support
of
the
plan
as
it
is
as
it's
going
to
be,
as
you
hope
it
could
be
some
day.
K
As
it's
going
to
be,
we
we
just,
we
were
hoping
to
get
the
design
changes
completed
in
the
on
paper
before
we
came
to
you
guys,
but
we
weren't
able
to
so.
You
know
what
we're
hoping
for
was
to
just
get
in
front
of
you
guys,
one
more
time
to
let
you
know
what
those
changes
would
be,
and
then
you
know
last
time
we
were
here.
We
didn't
have
a
formal
motion,
but
it
sounded
like
there
was
generally
consensus
to
support
the
project
overall.
K
A
A
Plan
but
I
can't
say
that
I
recommend
a
you
know.
I
wouldn't
do
this
for
a.
A
For
for
anything
else,
you
know
hey
guys,
I'm
gonna
do
this
later.
Show
me
what
you're
gonna
do
so,
I'm
just
I'm
trying
to
figure.
C
A
How
to
make
the
motion,
basically,
what
what
we're
supporting
we
don't
just
hand
out
blank
checks.
B
Can
I
can
I
just
ask
a
quick
question.
Last
time
you
were
here,
we
really.
I
brought
up
the
fact
that
these
are
multimodal
for
folks
who
are
in
motorized
wheelchairs
or
even
just
manual
or
shows,
and
things
like
that.
I
get
that
we
keep
calling
it
a
bike
lane
and
yet
I
just
I
think,
I'm
not
clear.
Is
this
a
sole
bike
lane
where,
if
you're
in
a
wheelchair,
you're
gonna
get
a
ticket,
I
I
don't
understand,
that's
where
I'm
stuck.
K
I
need
to
confirm
with
our
with
with
code,
but
my
intention
is
for
them
to
be
able
to
be
used
by
by
the
folks
in
wheelchairs
or
other
motorized
devices
or
non-motorized
devices.
Other
mobility.
K
K
A
Yes,
I'm
running
short
on
time,
but
go
ahead.
K
K
So,
as
you
guys
know,
ncdot
is
going
to
be
repaving
us
25
lots
of
discussion
about
the
maryman
part
of
us
25.
But,
as
you
know,
it
comes
through
downtown
broadway
to
biltmore.
K
What
we're
talking
about
with
them
is
adding
bike
facilities
to
the
biltmore
section,
that's
between
patton
and
hilliard.
A
A
I'm
gonna
read
guillau's
comment.
He
said
that
you
can
limit
major
deliveries
to
certain
hours.
Many
cities
have
done
this
successfully
and
the
sidewalks
are
accessible
routes
of
travel
and
it's
not
necessary
to
provide
accessible
parking
spaces
adjacent
to
specific
buildings,
because
that
was
geo's
comment.
A
You're
welcome
so
at
the
commission
are
are
we?
Are
we
ready
to
make
a
motion
that
we're
in
support
of
the
work
that
transportation-
or-
I
guess,
is
this?
Who
is
this
coming
from?
This-
is
coming
from.
A
Of
the
work
that
they
are
doing
on
for
the
specifically
for
the
bike
lanes
on
college
and
patent
is
that.
Is
that
what
we
is
that?
What
you
need.
A
And
okay,
college
and
patent
and
built
more
and
that
you
know
we
can
review
a
specific
the
specific
plan
as
it's
completed.
Does
that
sound
reasonable.
A
K
A
That
we
are
in
support
of
the
recommendation
by
planning
a
city
of
actual
planning
and
transportation
for
the
bike
lanes
on
college
patton
and
biltmore
avenue,
as
as
presented
with
the
caveat
that
we
will
review
the
final
design
for
downtown
master
plan.
Compliance
at
a
later
date,
how's
that
sound
okay,
second,
did
that
reference.
A
Yeah
jessica,
when
you
we
would
like,
we
want
to
review
the
final
design
and
when
you
bring
that
final
design
back,
we
need
to
know
specifically
what
that
lane
is.
What
allowable
modes
of
transportation
are
allowed
in
that
lane
that
that's
currently
shown
as
a
bike
lane
how's
that
kimberly.
A
Very
good,
thank
you,
stephen
lee.
A
Okay,
I'm
an
eye
robin
hi
megan
had
to
drop
off.
I
think
yeah.
She
dropped
off
guillo
thumbs
up
in
the
shadow
he's
a
I
ricardo,
aye
ruth
no
sage.
G
A
K
A
A
Into
a
pumpkin,
as
I
look
at
her
sorry,
dana
so
yeah
we're
gonna,
we're
gonna
wrap
up
really
fast.
A
On
updates
and
reports
we're
gonna
move
through
these
very
quickly.
I'm
gonna
do
the
actual
downtown
design
from
for
megan,
since
she's
already
jumped
off
and
then
robin
you're
gonna
do
a
quick
design
review.
She
said:
we've
had
a
staffing
change.
A
Her
time
has
been
focused
on
events
downtown
after
five
is
back
in
full
swing
with
four
more
events:
the
third
friday
of
june
through
september
they're
working
on
a
walkability
survey
for
september,
and
she
wants
feedback
from
us
on
potential
inclusions
and
additions
and
she's
going
to
email
that
to
us
to
look
at.
So
that's
look
for
that
survey
coming
in
that's
the
actual
downtown
association
report,
robin
drc.
F
Okay,
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
way,
the
meetings
organized
and
the
length
of
meetings
and
hope
to
streamline
that
a
little
bit
in
the
future.
We
had
two
projects
come
to
us,
I'm
on
the
wrong
agenda.
We
reviewed
the
gap
plan,
the
greenway
design
guidelines
and
we've
voted
to
approve
that
and
we
had
two
informal
design
reviews.
A
Awesome,
I'm
going
to
go
through
dana's
report
real
quickly.
The
downtown
update
we've
got
that
so
she
has
the
pack
square,
plaza
improvements,
work,
they're,
bringing
a
a
contract
to
the
city
council
on
june
14th
with
mitchell
silver
and
mcadams
design
engineering
to
manage
the
visioning
process
so
be
on
the
lookout.
For
that
look
at
the
updates
on
monday
june
13th
for
the
asheville
share
space
initiative.
A
A
Everyone
on
here
should
be
receiving
updates
on
the
advisory
board,
restructure,
restructure
proposal,
that's
going
on
and
and
you're
all
invited
to
be
involved
with
that
our
as
we've
mentioned
many
times,
our
drc
meeting
is
next
thursday,
with
a
couple
different
projects
in
the
cbd
to
review
city
council
meetings
are
being
held
in
person
currently,
and
you
should
all
know
how
to
attend
those
both
virtually
and
in
person,
and
our
city
boards
and
commissions
with
quasi
judicial,
have
begun
to
hold
in-person
meetings
and
then
we're
going
to
try
to
figure
out
how
to
get
back
to
in-person
meetings
for
meetings
such
as
this
one
in
the
next
two
to
three
months,
and
that
should
conclude
the
update.
A
I
don't
know
that
we
really
need
to
go
into
public
space
management
since
dana's
a
pumpkin
and
andrew's,
not
here
homeless
initiative.
Do
we
need
to
go
over
anything
with
that
robin.
A
Oh
sage
left,
so
no
awesome,
I'm
only
like
five
minutes
late,
that's
good
july.
We
are
having
a
public
safety
update
from
asheville
police
department.
Captain
mike
lamb
is
coming
on
and
in
the
interim,
while
dana
is
having
a
baby.
A
Vadilla
is
going
to
with,
along
with,
I
think,
probably
steph
and
todd
are
going
to
be
assuming
some
of
our
liaison
duties.
So
are
there
any
final
comments
or
questions
for
this
group.
B
They're
not
here,
but
I
just
want
to
thank
dana
and
sasha.
I
had
emergency
surgery
and
was
out
for
a
while
trying
to
get
better
and
they
really
were
more
than
kind
and
thoughtful
and
checking
in
on
me.
Oh
there
you
are
so.
Thank
you
sasha.
I
really
appreciate
your
kindness.
A
A
Robin
made
the
motion:
is
there
a
second
thank
you,
second,
all
in
favor
log
off
and
go
say
goodbye
to
dana
hi
hi.
Thank
you
appreciate
it.
Everybody
thanks.