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From YouTube: Multimodal Transportation Commission – March 22, 2023
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Regular meeting of the City of Asheville Multimodal Transportation Commission.
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A
And
welcome
I'd
like
to
call
to
order
the
March
22nd
2023
city
of
Asheville,
multimodal
Transportation
Commission
meeting.
My
name
is
Dennis
Wenzel
and
I'm
the
chair
of
this
group.
Our
meetings
continue
to
be
held
virtually
for
the
time
being,
but
there
are
many
ways
for
interested
parties
to
participate
in
this
Gathering.
The
city
of
Asheville
engagement,
Hub,
which
includes
a
variety
of
links
and
phone
numbers,
can
be
found
on
the
multimodal
Transportation
Commission
page
of
the
city
of
Asheville's
website.
A
Visiting
this
page
is
the
best
way
to
take
part
in
our
virtual
meetings,
members,
staff
and
guests.
Please
remember
to
keep
your
microphones
muted
at
all
times
when
you're,
not
speaking,
so
we
can
minimize
feedback
and
other
background
noise.
I'd
like
to
now
welcome
our
commission
members.
Members
want
to
call
your
name,
please
introduce
yourself
and
let
us
know
what
interest
you
represent:
Randy
Warren.
B
Thanks
Dennis
I'm,
Randy
Warren
and
my
interests
aren't
necessarily
evolving
all
the
times
that
happens
too,
but
but
our
groups
that
support
mmcc
are
evolving.
So
my
bike
fed
task
force
was
my
former
association
with
the
supporting
committee.
That's
evolving
as
we'll
talk
about
later
today.
Absolutely.
C
D
C
B
F
H
I
A
Thanks
Joe
welcome
Elizabeth
like
us,
Elizabeth
was
had
a
procedure
today,
so
unfortunately
she's
unable
to
join
us
Maggie
Allman,
our
Council
liaison,
is
also
she's
traveling
for
work,
so
she's
unable
to
join
us
as
well.
But
that's
our
group
from
now
so
we'll
move
on
to
our
first
item,
which
is
the
review
and
approval
of
today's
agenda,
can
I
get
a
motion
to
approve?
C
G
A
A
A
H
A
You
excellent
thank
you
very
much
and
we
welcome
you
and
look
forward
to
your
active
participation.
The
we
do
have
a
item
of
public
comment.
I
would,
if,
without
objection,
I'd
like
to
reserve
that
to
read
it,
let's
see
and
coming
up
in
an
item
which
is
our
second
item,
a
new
business.
If
that's
okay
with
everyone,
so
we'll
move
into
a
new
business
and
Jessica,
do
we
want
to
go
right
into
the
first
item
of
new
business?
Does
that
make
sense
for
you.
G
You
thank
you
Dennis.
Yes,
my
name
is
Ken
Putnam
and
I'm,
the
director
of
the
transportation
department.
You
have
looked
at
one
of
these
projects
in
in
the
past,
probably
about
a
year
ago
before,
where
the
dot
is
going
to
do
a
project
and
all
they
need
from
us
is
or
the
city
council
is
a
resolution
of
support.
The
program
that
they're
using
is
called
high
impact,
low
cost
and
when
a
project
costs
more
than
250
000.
That
requires
a
resolution
from
the
appropriate
local
government.
This
intersection
Improvement.
G
This
is
out
in
the
Inca
camera
area.
It's
at
the
intersection
of
Sardis
Road
and
Sand
Hill
Road
they've
identified
a
history
of
rear
end
crashes
there.
So
the
main
thing
they
want
to
do
is
build
a
right
turn
lane
to
try
to
minimize
those
crashes
and
at
the
same
time
they
will
be
adding
a
sidewalk
segment.
They
will
be
adding
a
cross
pedestrian
crosswalk
with
the
head
signals
and
there's
an
existing
signal
there
and
they're
going
to
have
to
relocate
one
of
the
metal
poles
to
accommodate
all
this.
G
But
all
the
work
will
be
done
within
their
right-of-way
and
so
with
that
I'll
just
pause
and
see.
If
you
have
any
questions
and
what
I
need
you
all
to
do
and
there's
a
suggested
motion
that
you
all
endorsed
this
and
want
it
to
go
on
the
city
council
for
approval
go
ahead.
Randy
I
think
you
might
have
been
first.
I
saw
a
whole
bunch
of
hands,
go
at
the
same
time,
so
I
apologize
if
I.
Okay,
thanks.
B
Again
yeah,
so
my
son's
school
Franklin
School
of
innovation
is
really
close
to
that
intersection.
So
I've
been
there
a
lot
and
then
also
it's
one
of
my
favorite
ride.
Routes
goes
right
by
there
as
well
too
so
I.
The
information
we
received
had
a
really
rough
diagram
and
it
wasn't
super
helpful,
so
I'm,
guessing
that
the
right
turn
lane
is
when
you're
traveling
towards
Inca
on
Sardis
Road
turning
right
onto
Sandhill
is
that,
where
they're
putting
the
right
turn
lane
right
by
the
gas
station
that
needs
a
BP
station,
that's
right.
There
is.
B
And
then,
and
then
so,
I
guess
I'd
like
to
see
so
I
always
have
concerns
when
we
do
this
kind
of
stuff.
Just
because
you
know,
if
we
make
the
intersection
wider
to
accommodate
a
right
turn
lane,
then
you'll
have
to
travel
further
across
the
street.
If
they're
crossing
the
street
there
and
I
know
that
this
area
is
the
area
that's
developing
rapidly.
B
It
has
a
increasing
traffic
all
the
time
and
it's
backed
up
sometimes
on
Sardis
Road
from
Brevard
Road,
literally,
all
the
way
to
Sardis
Road
I
mean
again
I'm
they're
picking
up
my
son
from
school
a
lot,
and
so
it's
it
needs
a
lot
of
treatment
in
a
lot
of
different
ways,
but
and
also
there's
students
that
are
coming
from
the
school,
and
so
it's
actually
outside
the
school
zone
quote
unquote.
But
a
lot
of
students
walk
a
long
ways
away
and
stuff
too.
G
B
Yeah,
but
at
the
same
time
as
we
don't
want
any
improvements
to
make
now
what
hopefully
make
their
improvements
then
connect
to
you
know
we
want
to
make
this
above
standard
so
that
when
they
make
the
improvements
up
to
a
standard,
this
intersection
isn't
below
than
that
new
standard.
It
seems
like
we
should
have
more
information
about
this
than
what
they've
provided
just
because
I
mean
it's
great
they're,
improving
it,
but
at
the
same
time,
is
it
if
they
improve
it
in
a
way
that
isn't
going
to
be.
B
You
know
cohesive
with
what
they're
going
to
do
in
the
future
or
if
it's
a
way
that
just
makes
cars
be
able
to
whip
around
that
corner
really
fast.
You
know
by
the
gas
station
there,
because
now
they
have
a
right
turn
lane
that's
not
safer
for
pedestrians
trying
to
cross
the
street
there,
because
it's
it
is
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
rise.
It's
sharper
than
a
right
hand
turn
there.
B
You
know
that
they
have
to
come
to
a
much
lower
speed
to
be
able
to
make
that
turn
currently
than
they
might
with
the
right
turn
lane.
But
again
we
don't
have
a
really
good
drawing
to
show
how
what
the
turning
radius
is
for
that
current
Lane
and
you
know
what
the
speed
design
is
for
it
and
what
their
sight
lines
are
going
to
be
for
pedestrians
crossing
the
street
there.
It's
just.
We
don't
have
a
lot
of
information.
G
B
We
know
that
motorists
don't
oftentimes,
look
at
those
things,
they're
just
looking
to
see
if
a
car
is
coming,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
positioned
in
such
a
way
that
it's
easiest
to
see
pedestrians
there
too
and
again
it's
a
bigger
it's
a
tighter
than
right-handed
current.
You
know
bigger
than
90
degree
turn
there
and
I
know.
People
are
generally
looking
for
cars
that
are
coming.
You
know
from
the
opposite
direction
on
Sand,
Hill,
Road,
I,
think
that
it
turns
into
there
is
that
you
know
thanks.
B
Angel
turns
and
Sardis
roads
ends,
but
it's
just
it's
intersection
and
then
because
cars
are
coming
with
the
other
direction
downhill
and
if
they're
going
to
make
a
left-hand
turn
there.
It's
just
that's
what
they're?
Looking
for
they're
looking
at
pedestrians
I'm
a
favor
to
make
this
again,
not
maybe
necessarily
more
dangerous
pedestrians
because,
like
you,
said,
there's
no
pedestrian,
crosswalk
or
signalization
there
now,
but
we
don't
make
it
as
safe
as
it
possibly
could
be.
F
G
F
G
E
D
E
I
Yeah
I
had
I
had
had
my
hand
up
again
and
then
put
it
back
down
because
Randy
pretty
much
said
everything,
but
it
my
comment
would
just
be
I
mean
this
looks
like
a
napkin,
sketch
and
and
I.
Don't
necessarily
want
to
go
down
too
harsh
on
ncdot,
because
obviously
they're.
Maybe
this
is
where
they're
trying
to
save
the
money
right
I
mean
if,
let's
just
say
that
if
this
came
before
p
and
Z
I
would
not
vote
for
it.
I
mean
this.
I
This
doesn't
describe
anything
of
what's
going
on,
I,
don't
see
how
this
makes
it
safer
for
cars.
Turning
because
I
think
as
Randy
said,
that
right
turn
lane
is
just
going
to
be
seen
as
a
slip
lane.
People
are
going
to
barely
slow
down
and
try
to
make
that
turn.
I
think
instead
of
having
rear
end
crashes,
you're
going
to
have
crashes
that
are
going
to
be
more
head-on
sideswipe
as
people
make
that
right
hand
turn
without
slowing
down
so
I
man.
B
I'm,
sorry,
so
there's
one
more
thing:
it
seems
to
me,
like,
maybe
and
I,
don't
know
the
executive
process.
First
of
all,
I
appreciate
so
much
that
this
commission
gets
a
chance
to
review
these
kind
of
things.
I
think
it's
really
important.
So
I
really
appreciate
that
we're
involved
in
this
process,
but
it
seems
to
me
the
way
it's
presented
that
ncdt
is
saying
that.
Well,
this
is
a
formality.
B
They
Don't
Really
Care
they're
not
going
to
look
at
this
very
carefully
just
give
them
whatever
anything
and
then
they'll
prove
it
and
it'll
go
on
from
there
and
I.
Don't
want
us
to
be
looked
at
that
way.
I
would
like
us
to
be
looked
at
as
being
a
group
of
people
that
have
a
lot
of
experience
and
a
wide
variety
of
the
areas
that
can
be
helpful
in
terms
of
making
sure
that
the
best
design
possible
is
used
in
these
situations
and
doesn't
seem
like
ncdot
is
viewing
Us
in
that
way.
B
So
you
know,
I
would
propose
that
we
don't
approve
this
now
and
we
ask
for
more
information
to
come
back
at
the
next
meeting
and
I.
Don't
know
what
their
timeline
is
on
this,
but
it
seems
to
me
like
they
should
approach.
They
should
give
you
the
information
that
you
need
to
be
able
to
present
it
to
us
in
an
appropriate
way,
so
that
we
can
make
an
informed
decision
not
just
be
like
a
slam
dunk.
Oh,
they
saw
it.
Let's
move
on.
G
I've
been
listening
to
all
the
comments
I
was
going
to
suggest
that
Randy
is
why
don't
we
just
don't
even
take
a
vote
on
it?
Let
me
go
back
to
the
dot
and
and
I'll
do
that
as
soon
as
I
get
off
the
phone
call
here
and
see
if
I
can't,
let's
see
first
of
all,
do
they
have
a
better
drawing
and
and
see
if
we
can't
get
better
plans.
E
Yeah
yeah
and
Ken,
if
possible
also
I'd
like
love
the
bigger
context
too.
Maybe
that
information
is
out
there
already,
but
I'd
love
to
see
what
designs
are
in
the
future
for
Sardis,
Road
and
and
Sand
Hill.
Given
the
growth
that's
over
there,
if
there's
any
additional
contacts
they
can
provide.
That
would
be
helpful.
G
E
G
B
Randy,
please
it's
one
more
thing,
though
too.
This
would
be
a
great
chance
for
us
to
Advocate,
though
then
for
whatever,
since
they
don't
have
plans
already
for
Sardis
Road
that
are
publicly
available
again.
I
occasionally
ride
my
bike
on
Sardis
Road,
which
is
crazy.
That
seems
that
I
need
to
cut
from
Rivard
road
to
Sand
Hill
Road,
sometimes,
and
so
the
only
really
way
to
do
that.
B
The
only
opportunity
there
is
to
take
Sardis,
Road
and-
and
that's
harrowing,
because
there's
you
know
like
a
three
inch
shoulder
and
no
sidewalks
anyway,
so
it
might
be
a
chance
for
us
since
they
don't
have
that
too.
In
this
process
now
here
advocate
for
appropriate
facilities,
so
that
people
can
get
through
there
by
not
just
having
to
have
a
car,
but
I,
don't
think
we
have
bus
service
on
that
road.
There
are
sidewalks
on
the
road.
There
aren't
bike
facilities
in
that
road.
B
It's
it's
a
car
only
facility
right
now
and
so,
and
it
goes
right
by
the
Franklin
School
of
innovation
and
again
hundreds
of
Apartments
already
and
they're,
adding
hundreds
more.
So
this
would
be
a
great
chance
for
us
to
Advocate
with
ncdot
that
when
they
do
the
plans
that
they
have
facilities
that
are
going
to
encourage
multimodal
transportation
and
not
just
just
cars,
to
use
the
road.
A
Excellent
yeah,
you
know
I,
don't
mean
to
believe
in
the
point,
but
you
know
I
feel
like
this
area
is
getting.
You
know
we're
seeing
higher
density
residential
coming
in
across
the
street,
we're
seeing
some
more
commercial
coming
in
so
I
think
these
conflicts
are
only
going
to
continue,
so
it
does
I
like
the
idea
of
kind
of
just
making
sure
that
we're
doing
all
we
can
here
any
other
comments
or
questions
Jessica.
Do
we
need
a
motion
to
table,
or
can
we
just
table
it
with?
G
A
A
Okay,
so
we
received
one
comment
from
Carmen
and
artsy
and
that
I
believe
everyone
has
a
copy
of
it,
but
I'll
read
it
aloud,
so
at
Asheville,
Regional
Transit
Coalition
is
advocating
for
a
joint
study
between
the
city
and
county
analyzing
Transit
operations,
as
well
as
potential
revenue
streams
and
comfortants
models.
The
first
step
is
to
explore
City
and
Transit
connectivity
through
strengthening
collaborative
collaborate
collaborative
Transportation
Planning.
A
A
Next
is
the
operations
frequency
hours
of
service
ease
of
trans
transfers
lengths
of
trips
next
is
the
increasing
ridership,
decreasing
carbon
footprint
of
Transportation
connection
to
park
and
ride.
Zero
fare
zero,
Free,
Fair,
free
carpool,
vanpool,
land
use
and
planning
better
Mobility
for
visitors
and
tourists,
and
finally,
a
potential
of
potential
benefits
include
the
transit
authority,
dedicated
funding,
governance
models,
cost
savings,
reduction
of
duplicative
operations
and
capital
Investments
and
reduce
stress
and
need
for
Downtown
parking.
J
Let
me
get
back
here:
okay,
we
also
are
planning
to
make
sure
that
this
is
a
data-driven
process,
so
the
analysis,
the
recommendations,
the
evaluations,
all
those
things,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
making
decisions
based
on
data
that
we
have
collected,
and
we
also
want
to
reinforce
that.
We
expect
to
have
Community
engagement
throughout
the
entire
project
at
All
Phases,
and
it's
going
to
be
a
very
critical
component
of
the
project
as
we
move
forward.
J
So
we
make
sure
that
when
we
put
the
scope
of
work
together,
the
detailed
scope
of
work
together,
we
haven't
missed
anything
and
then
we
also
have
to
get
our
budget
request
approved.
So
City
staff
and
County
staff
have
each
submitted
budget
requests
for
the
next
fiscal
year.
We've
each
submitted
a
request
for
three
hundred
thousand
dollars,
and
we
are
you
know
not
if,
if
those,
if
and
when
those
budget
requests
get
approved,
we
wouldn't
be
allowed
to
start
spending
money
until
July
1st
of
this
year.
J
So
what
we're
doing
right
now
is
just
gearing
up
for
implementing
or
getting
to
the
project
phase.
So
once
we've
got
a
scope
of
work
together,
we
will
be
putting
that
within
a
request
for
proposals
and
issuing
that
request
for
proposals,
selecting
a
consultant
with
a
selection
team
and
then
eventually
get
to
execute
a
contract.
J
I
think
it's
going
to
be
September
or
October
before
we
have
an
executed
contract,
which
means
that
we
expect
we'd
be
actually
kicking
off
sometime
in
the
fall
of
this
year,
and
my
my
guess
is
that
the
project
itself
is
going
to
take
12
to
18
months
and,
of
course,
the
implementation.
Once
we
have
a
plan
we
in
hand,
then
we
move
to
implementation,
and
that
could
be
one
year,
one
to
ten
years
or
longer.
J
We
also
collectively
the
city
and
county
staff
work
together
to
come
up
with
three
guiding
principles,
kind
of
already
mentioned
some
of
these,
but
the
intention
is
that
both
the
city
and
the
county
will
be
equal.
Partners
will
be
represented,
represented
equally
throughout
the
process,
and
but
we
also
have
to
recognize
that
each
of
these
each
of
us
have
individual
goals
as
well
as
shared
goals
and
needs.
J
So
these
bullets
here
are
meant
to
summarize
the
goals
and
objectives
of
the
plan.
What
we
hope
is
that
we'll
get
recommendations
that
improve,
enhance,
increase
each
one
of
these
key
aspects.
So.
The
plan
is
going
to
be
framed
around
equity,
which,
for
for
this
means
reducing
disparities
for
communities
or
people
and
or
people
facing
barriers.
J
We
want
to
have
recommendations
to
improve
connect
connectivity
so
strategically
linking
key
destinations
such
as
employment,
Recreation
activity,
centers
and
yeah
other
key
desks,
basic
other
key
destinations
system,
attractiveness
and
with
that,
what
we're
really
referring
to
is
enhancing
existing
service
and
making
it
more
reliable,
higher
quality
and
more
convenience
access
and
Mobility.
That
is
touching
on
wanting
to
expand
service
or
expand
capacity,
which
could
mean
more
frequency,
different
or
new
routes,
longer
operating
hours,
Etc
and
then
Financial
sustainability
and
governance.
J
So
we
want
to
get
out
of
this
process
recommendations
that
speak
to
additional
sources
of
revenue,
making
sure
that
the
transit
system
has
dedicated
funding
and
the
governance
structure.
What
does
that
look
like
in
terms
of
who
who
is
operating
the
system
that
the
city
and
the
county
just
like
it
is
now
or
is
it
a
regional
Authority
or
some
other
kind
of
combination
of
governance,
environmental,
environmental
sustainability?
J
Some
of
the
initial
major
components
that
we
expect
to
be
part
of
the
scope
of
work
include
conducting
assessments
and
Analysis
of
existing
conditions,
existing
plans
and
policies
and
then
also
looking
at
Future
demand.
So
what
are
the
expected?
Growth
patterns
and
land
use
changes?
Demographic
changes
that
might
take
place
that
could
have
an
impact
on
transit
services.
J
Okay
and
then
these
bullets
are
meant
to
represent
other
major
components
that
we
expect
to
be
key
parts
of
the
scope
of
work
and
that
we
would
expect
to
have
comprehensive
and
prioritized
recommendations
in,
and
that
includes
again
the
governance
structure,
how
the
the
governments
can
collaborate,
better
service,
design
and
delivery
and
that
that
really
is
speaking
to
capacity
of
the
system,
differences
in
in
operation.
So
things
like
on-demand
transit
or
fixed
route,
which
is
what
art
is
right
now
or
micro
Transit.
J
The
capital
component
of
this
is,
and
I
think,
is
something
that
we
didn't
really
focus
a
whole
lot
on
in
the
last
Transit
master
plan,
and
that
is
making
sure
that
we
understand
what
the
fleet
requirements
and
needs
are
and
what
our
facility
requirements
and
needs
are
and
then
kind
of
related
to
that
carbon
reduction.
We
want
to
look
at
ways
to
have
a
more
environmentally
sustainable
system,
and
we
need
to
look
at
that
in
the
context
of
our
Capital
needs.
J
Most
importantly,
how
all
that
relates
to
our
our
financial
sustainability,
so
infrastructure
and
policy,
and
financial
planning
and
funding
looking
at
the
fair
structure,
is
just
one
tiny
component
of
our
Revenue.
But
if
we
were
to
look
at
changes
to
our
fire
structure,
including
zero
fare,
how
does
that
influence
or
impact
our
operations?
Is
it
going
to
drive
higher
ridership,
which
means
you
might
need
more
frequency
or
more
or
more
buses?
J
So
Community
collaboration.
We
expect
that
one
of
the
first
big
deliverables
that
we
would
work
on
the
city
of
the
county
would
work
on
with
the
chosen
consultant
or
consulted
team
would
be
to
put
together
a
Communications
engagement
and
collaboration
plan.
That
would
outline
all
of
the
methods
and
ways
that
we're
going
to
make
sure
that
we
include
the
community
in
this
project.
J
So
when
I
say,
community
I
mean
writers,
non-writers
residents,
visitors,
businesses,
our
institutions
and
other
service
providers
to
make
sure
that
they
all
have
a
voice
in
this
process,
and
we
expect
that
the
city
and
the
county
will
work
together
to
make
sure
that
we
maximize
participation,
involvement
across
the
county,
and
this
is
just
a
bullet
list
of
ways
that
we
envision
that
we
could
do
some
of
our
collaboration
and
Community
engagement.
Some
of
these
are
pretty
traditional
public
meetings
and
workshops
and
events.
J
J
A
F
J
Very
teeny,
tiny
buses,
you
know
it's
well,
I
mean
it
kind
of.
Is
it's
it's
something
that
is
some
sometimes.
It
can
be
also
referred
to
as
like
the
first
mile,
Last
Mile
of
transit,
or
which
could
be
that
you
have
smaller,
smaller
vehicles
that
are
perhaps
collecting
collecting
people
in
a
in
a
smaller
area
and
then
feeding
into
a
larger
transit
system,
or
they
could
be
micro.
Transit
could
also
be
like
shuttles
and
things
of
that
nature
that
feed
into
a
larger
system.
J
So
it's
really
around
the
concept
of
that
you
can't
the
agencies
typically
can't
afford
to
pay
for
large
buses
and
high
frequency
all
over
the
place.
So
you
might
utilize
a
different
kind
of
way
to
collect
Riders
and
bring
them
to
those
key
corridors
via
different
type
of
vehicle
or
a
different
type
of
service.
If
that
makes
sense,.
F
A
B
So
sometimes
that
would
be
parking
lots
for
cars
you
know
to
park
in,
so
they
could
take
train
station
that
way,
but
oftentimes
it
would
be
having
bike
routes
that
the
city
and
county
would
be
planning
to
feed
into
the
system
bike
facilities
at
the
transit,
centers
or
Transit
routes
to
have
shelter,
well-lit,
secure
bike
parking,
for
example,
so
that
people
could
ride
their
bikes
there
and
then
to
make
sure
that
there's
you
know
bike
routes
and
Safeways
to
get
there.
You
know
sidewalks
as
well
for
pedestrians
things
like
that
too.
B
So
just
you
know,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that's
always
ever
present
and
I
know
Jessica
for
you.
It
is
that's
your
background
and
stuff
too.
So
you
think
by
that
way
too,
but
I
know
sometimes
in
the
county.
People
don't
think
that
way,
and
just
as
we
work
forward
if
you're
thinking
it
just
from
how
you're
going
to
get
buses
near
there
than
that
you,
you
lose
sometimes
the
opportunity
to
have
many
more
people
use
the
transit
system
by
having
great
connectivity
using
other
forms
of
transportation
too.
G
I
Yeah
I
just
wanted
to
to
thank
you,
Jessica
and
all
of
staff
and
and
certainly
County
as
well
I
mean
I
know
this
has
kind
of
been
percolating.
I
know,
multimodal's
been
talking
about
it.
You
know,
Maggie
Olman
was
a
was
kind
of
a
big
proponent
of
it
when
she
was
with
all
multimodal
so
I'm
just
I
just
want
to
say.
Thank
you.
I
think
this
is
great
and
I
look
forward
to
I,
guess,
probably
more
watching
from.
D
A
I
remember
when
we,
when
we
did
our
field
trip
last
year
to
the
bus
barn
and
to
the
the
depot,
and
we
were
talking
about
capacity
issues
and
you
know,
function
the
issues
that
we're
running
into
and
then
this
kind
of
idea.
You
know,
there's
a
Confluence
of
those
two
things
kind
of
happening
at
once.
So
it's
really
amazing
to
see
just
in
those
you
know
few
months
how
how
much
this
has
come
together.
So
it's
really
exciting
to
see
and
I
look
forward
to
being
a
part
of
it.
H
J
So
it's
can't
believe
it's
already
five
years
old,
but
it
is,
and
and
I
and
I
do
want
to
mention
that
you
know
I,
don't
I
want
to
make
clear
that
Our
intention
is
not
to
trash.
That
plan.
I
think
there
is
a
lot
of
really
good
stuff
in
that
plan.
That
I
mean
shoot.
We
haven't
even
really
implemented
90
of
that
plan
and
so
I
think.
H
J
Yeah
so
I
think
recognizing
that
there's
still
really
good
stuff
in
there.
That
I
think
are
still
high
priorities
for
Transit,
Riders
and
or
the
city
and
for
the
county
and
so
I
think,
like
we'll
we'll
be
pulling
forward
a
lot
of
that
stuff
still
so
that
I
don't
expect
those
priorities
that
were
identified
there
to
go
away.
J
H
H
I
guess
you
said
that
the
city
and
the
county
were
each
going
to
put
in
300,
000
and
I'm
I'm,
assuming
that's
just
for
like
hiring
the
consultant
and
developing
the
plan,
and
then
something
that
comes
up
every
year
when
it
comes
to
budgeting
is
that
Transit
just
doesn't
get
enough
money
to
do
the
Baseline
that
it's
trying
to
do
now,
and
so,
although
plans
are
great,
unless
there's
money
to
implement
the
improvements,
it's
just
on
paper
and
I
know
that
finding
the
funding
is
going
to
be
part
of
this
analysis.
I.
H
J
J
Of
course,
there's
pros
and
cons
to
that.
But
that's
an
opportunity
that
I
think
the
city
is
hoping
to
use
this
plan
to
get
to
a
place
where
that
might
become
reality
and
that's
kind
of
the
big
fish
as
far
as
Revenue,
but
there's
some
other
smaller
but
important,
Revenue
sources
that
we
could
look
at
and
wouldn't
be
possible
if
we
weren't
coordinated
together
more
closely.
So
this
is
meant
to
really
get
us
closer
to
a
more
healthy
financial
situation.
I
think.
C
A
A
J
Oh
boy,
you're
gonna,
give
it
to
me
just
kidding,
so
this
has
been
I.
Think
somebody
used
the
word
percolating
earlier
and
I
think
that's
a
really
good
word
for
this
conversation
we
had
it
have
had
it
on
the
agenda
for
the
last
couple
months,
but
didn't
really
get
to
get
to
fully
discuss
it,
but
essentially
what
we're
talking
about
is
I,
don't
know
combinations.
A
So
Jessica,
one
of
the
things
that
I
understand
is
that
the
kind
of
what's
this
is
being
pushed
forward
because
we're
cutting
we're
starting
to
see
Greenways
melding
into
some
of
the
challenges
or
opportunities
that
we
had
within
bike
ped
and
vice
versa,
and
so
it
really
kind
of
we
still.
We
took
a
step
back
and
said
you
know
it
seems
like.
Maybe
these
things
are
more
alike
than
they
are
dislike,
not
alike,
and
so
maybe
you
know
from
there.
It
was
like
this
metamorphosis.
That's
going
to
turn
into
something
new.
A
Are
you
seeing
you
know
when
I
was
reading
through
the
motion?
I
noticed
that
you're
kind
of
looking
for
maybe
a
dissolution
of
the
current
committees?
Are
you
seeing
that
would
happen
now
and
then,
maybe
in
the
future,
we
would
have
this
new
one
occur
or
you
know
the
rebirth
happen,
or
is
it
What's?
J
Absolutely
yeah,
no
that's
a
good
point,
and
that's
that
is
completely
fine
with
me.
We're
not
on
any
specific
timeline
with
this,
but
so
it
would
be
perfectly
acceptable
to
me
if
others
are
are
interested
in
doing
that
to
keep
the
keep
the
two
groups
kind
of
going
as
they
have
been,
but
I
would
like
to
maybe
have
some
sense
of
a
timeline
for
resolving
it
or
bringing
it
back
forward
to
the
to
the
commission
and
and
yeah
just
to
touch
on
what
you're,
the
you
know.
J
And
so
we
want
to
make
sure
all
of
these
facilities
are
coordinated
and
so
from
a
staffing
standpoint.
We
also
have
done
the
same
thing
where
we
don't
have
a
Greenway
planner
and
a
bike
ped
planner.
We
have
planners
that
are
working
on
all
of
the
different
projects
and
so
we're
trying
to
mirror
that
a
little
bit
with
this
idea
of
having
one
committee,
that's
covering
all
of
the
different
issues
and
facilities
and
needs.
A
H
H
A
H
A
A
B
Yeah
in
a
lot
of
communities,
active
Transportation
includes
Transit,
so
that
that
is,
you
know
the
term
of
use.
If
we
use
active
transportation
for
the
new
committee
as
a
title
for
it
and
not
have
Transit
included
in
it,
then
that
kind
of
might
not
be
in
line
with
what's
being
used
nationally
and
internationally,
but
anyway
that's
a
side
note,
but
I
can
understand
right
at
least
is
concerned
for
that
for
sure
I.
B
B
This
is
a
good
move
that
we
that
you
know
there
isn't
there
isn't
much
push,
but
there
wasn't
much
pushback
at
first
I
think,
there's
very
little
if
any
pushback
at
all.
Now
to
doing
this,
the
biggest
thing
I
think
is:
just
people
are
concerned
about
how
we
do
it
and
we
want
to
do
it
in
a
way.
That's
really
inclusive
and
includes
everybody's.
B
So
that's
something
that
we
want
to
have
as
many
people
as
possible
that
are
interested
in
providing
input
in
a
transit
or
bike
ped
or
Greenway
issues,
a
direct
way
to
be
able
to
influence.
You
know,
policy
in
the
city,
and
so
the
Committees
is
the
way
you
do
that.
The
commission
is
the
way
I
do
that
and
then
moving
forward
from
there
too,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
people
knew
that
there
has
been
ongoing
discussion
for
months
now
in
the
different
bike.
B
Ped
in
in
Greenways
and
and
people
are
I,
think
it's
a
good
move
and
we're
excited
to
get
moving
into
it,
and
just
people
just
want
to
be
intentional.
How
we
do
it,
which
I
think
is
important,
but
there's
not
like
I,
said
I,
don't
think
I,
don't
think,
there's
any
any
active
resistance
to
it
at
all.
E
A
E
A
Jack,
yes,
I
think
you
know,
one
of
the
thoughts
was
that
we
would
maybe
solicit
some
hand
raising
here
to
be
a
part
of
just
figuring
out
some
hammering
up
some
of
the
the
broader
aspects
of
how
this
is
going
to
look
in
the
future
and
and
come
back
to
the
group
with
some
ideas.
You
know,
I
think
the
goal
is
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
leave
any
blind
spots
from
either
of
these
groups
when
we're
looking
at
how
it's
going
to
look
like
in
the
future.
A
E
A
Perfect
and
I
think
what
we
can
do
is
just
kind
of
you
know
Jessica
if
this
makes
sense
to
you
we'll
kind
of
go
through
that
list
that
we
have
been
talking
about
and
you
just
kind
of
brought
up
just
to
make
sure
we
can
address
some
of
those
things
and
then
come
back.
We
can
take
a
look
at
it
and
then,
let's
listen
to
some
questions,
maybe
go
back
one
more
time.
A
J
Well,
yeah,
just
to
clarify
we
don't
actually
not
need
to
have
Council
buy-in.
Okay,
this
is
subcommittees
under
multimodal
commissions
per
view.
It's
these.
You
guys
are
really
the
the
last
stop
shop
for
deciding
how
you
want
subcommittees
to
be
organized
and
structured,
I
I
do
think
in
general.
This
is
consistent
or
it
certainly
is
not
inconsistent
with
some
of
the
efforts
that
have
been
going
on
with
regard
to
boards
and
commissions,
and
we've
already
talked
to
boards
and
commissions
about
about
it
just
to
make
sure
we
were
in
alignment
there.
J
B
Randy,
so
just
for
Elise,
because
I
know
your
new
release
and-
and
we
discussed
shoot
several
years
ago
now,
Jessica
London
said
2018
was
a
Transit
plan.
I
took
me
back
for
a
second,
but
because
I
was
here
then,
and
so
Go
Transit,
though
the
committee
at
one
point
it
talked
about
becoming
a
Transit
Commission
and
there
was
a
little
bit
of
movement
towards
that
because
we
felt
that
Transit
media
wasn't.
It
was
just
worthy
of
being
a
commission.
B
Perhaps
that
was
one
of
the
thoughts,
but
at
the
time
Transit
committee
was
not
in
a
position
to
move
into
that
role
as
a
commission,
and
then
we
kind
of
tabled
it
for
a
while
now
and
so,
but
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
that
has
been
discussed
and
is
still
floating
out
there
right.
Jessica
I
mean
it's
just
it's
just
in
kind
of
a
holding
pattern.
At
this
point,
nothing's
been
decided
it's
except
for
that
we're
not
going
to
move
forward
at
this
time,
but
there
was
quite
a
bit
of
discussion.
B
We
talked
about
it
for
for
several
months
and
there
was
some
work
done
towards
that.
So
so
it's
you
know
possible
in
the
future.
The
transit
might
become
its
own
commission
even
too.
So
just
so,
you
know
that
that
it
would,
you
know,
doesn't,
and
it
obviously
doesn't
make
sense.
I
think
they
have
Transit.
Also
be
a
part
of
this
active
transformation
thing
too,
because
then
you
know
it
isn't
it
dilutes.
A
Great
and
I'll,
so
what
I'll
do
is
I
can
I
will
reach
out
to
Joe,
Jack
and
Randy
for
us
to
find
a
time
to
to
meet
and
discuss
if
that
works
with
everybody
and
then
we'll
kind
of
get
things
going
offline
and
come
back
with
with
something
hopefully
by
by
next
month
and
we'll
get
to
keep
you
in
in
the
loop.
Oh.
D
A
D
C
A
A
C
A
I
Yes,
thanks
I
just
wanted
to
give
a
quick
update.
I
know,
I
mentioned
it
at
the
very
tail
end
of
our
meeting
last
month,
and
since
this
is
such
just
absolutely
huge
project
I
feel
like
you
know,
it
was
important
just
to
kind
of
keep
running
tabs
and,
and
at
least
just
for
real,
quick
since
I
know.
This
is
your
first
meeting
so
this
project
and
for
anyone
else,
who's
not
quite
sure.
I
So
it's
a
it's
a
fairly
large
area
and
just
you
know
real
Basics
I
mean
it
ends
up
being
about
a
million
square
feet,
so
this
is
kind
of
on
par
to
something
you
know
the
size
of
like
development,
wise
the
size
of
something
along
the
lines
of
like
an
Asheville
Mall
or
a
Biltmore
Park.
It's
something
that
really
Asheville
has
not
seen
in
a
long
long
long
time,
and
you
know
Biltmore
Park
was
Park,
County,
Park,
City
and
pretty
much
all
builtmore,
so
they
could
do
what
they
wanted
to
so
yeah.
I
Definitely
a
lot
going
on
here.
It
is
very
thank
you,
Jessica
for
for
popping
that
up,
I'm
gonna
put
into
the
chat
when
I'm
done
here
some
links
to
some
websites
with
some
information
there
is
so
this
is
an
ongoing
process
about
how
this
is
going
to
get
reviewed
in
the
city.
Tomorrow
afternoon,
the
design
review
commission
is
going
to
do
an
informal
review.
It's
going
to
be
virtual,
like
say,
I'll
put
the
link
to
the
website
in
the
chat
here
in
a
minute.
I
But
given
you
know,
certainly
my
strong
desire
to
see
multimodal
incorporated
into
all
planning
and
obviously
as
the
liaison
with
the
PCC
I,
definitely
would
like
to
have
this
commission's
input
and
whether
you
know
that
will
be
somewhat
more
informal
and
remains
to
be
seen
exactly
how
that's
going
to
work.
I
think
that's
more
of
a
conversation
for
for
Dennis
and
Jessica
and
I,
but
you
know
definitely
wanted
to
at
least
kind
of
give
you
a
real,
quick
update.
I
It
looks
like
this
may
come
to
pnz
May
June,
that's
kind
of
what
it's
looking
like
right
now,
but
that's
still
very
tentative
I
think
I
think
there
is
some
brake
tapping
going
on
behind
the
scenes
on
this
one
because
it
is
just
so
huge
and,
and
people
are
still
all
the
commissions
that
are
looking
at.
This
are
still
trying
to
wrap
our
heads
around
it.
So
but
yeah
I'm,
happy
to
you
know,
certainly
answer
any
questions.
I
A
Great
thanks,
Joe
I
have
a
quick
question
for
you.
So
when
you
see
projects
like
this
typically,
when
does
you
know
when
do
you
see
this
group,
you
know
the
transit
piece
of
it
get
involved.
Is
it
you
know
pretty
much
from
you
know
when
it
hits
the
ground
running
or
is
it
more
of
a
kind
of
a
feedback
situation?
You
know
what's
what's
the
normal
process.
I
That's
a
good
question:
Dennis
there
again,
this
project
is
just
so
large.
There
isn't
I'm
going
to
say:
there's
not
a
normal
process
with
this
one.
Typically,
this
is
you
know:
Transit
Transportation
reviews
this
at
the
technical
Review
Committee,
which
is
a
whole
separate.
You
know,
review
that's
run
through
Department
development
services
division
and
it's
all
about
technical
requirements
right
and
there's
certain
things
they
have
to
meet.
This
is
going
to
be
a
conditional
zoning,
so
they're
good.
I
You
know
essentially
they're
going
to
be
asking
for
you
know
things
that
they
would
like
to
do
some
exceptions
to
what
the
underlying
zoning
would
allow
and
it's
the
chance
of
Planning
and
Zoning
Commission
in
the
city
and
city
council
to
say.
Well,
if
you
want
this,
will
you
give
us
this
a
classic
one.
You
know
kind
of
a
great
example
is:
if
you're
building
apartments
will
you
do
some
affordable
housing?
I
You
know-
and
so
that's
that's
kind
of
that-
give
and
take
with
with
conditional
zonings
with
this
one
again,
just
being
so
large
I
I
think
it
might
I
feel
like
it
would
be
really
good
to
have
this
commissions
again
input
in
some
way,
as
opposed
to
just
the
you
know,
technical
Transportation
aspect
of
the
city
review.
If
that
makes
sense
and
I'm
sure
Jessica
has
a
comment
about
that
as
well.
J
So
I
I
totally
agree
with
Joe
I
mean
this
is
the
biggest
project
that
I
think
the
cities
had
come
before
it
and
I
think
for
as
far
as
precedent
there,
there
isn't
really
any
I
would
say
for
a
project
to
come
before
the
multimodal
Transportation,
Commission
or
really
any
other
commission
per
se,
and
so
I.
We
do
need
to
be
kind
of
I,
don't
want
to
say
careful,
but
cognizant
of
recognizing
that
maybe
this
is
a
one-off
situation,
because
we
certainly
don't
I.
J
Of
course,
the
the
city
council
will
weigh
in
on
projects
that
are
conditional
zoning
and
then
the
in
between
that,
though,
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
is
a
is
actually
a
quasi
judicial
body,
so
they
they
have.
They
have
rule
making
powers
that,
like
a
multimodal
commission
or
other
commission,
does
not
and
I
see
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
as
sort
of
the
the
overseer
of
all
things
that
fall
within
the
comprehensive
plan.
J
The
living
Asheville
comprehensive
plan,
of
which
transportation
and
Mobility
is
one
part
of
right,
and
so
there's
there's
six
major
sections
to
our
comp
plan.
Transportation
is
one
of
them,
but
so
is
affordable,
housing
and
economic
development,
and
all
these
different
High
highly
important
things
that
the
city
is
looking
to
do
and
so
Planning
and
Zoning.
It
is
their
role
to
be
looking
out
for
transportation
and
other
interests
as
well.
J
On
that
note,
though
again,
this
is
kind
of
a
this
is
kind
of
a
unique
it's
a
it's
a
unique
project
in
the
sense
of
its
scale
and
it's
in
its
potential
transformation
in
our
downtown
right.
So
we
don't
want
to
overlook
that
or
not
provide
an
opportunity
for
input.
Of
course,
individual
members
of
the
commissioner
are
welcome
to
provide
comment
on
any
project
right
so
but
I
do
think
that
we
should
bring
at
least
updates,
maybe
about
it
and
have
and
utilize
Joe
and
and
look.
J
We
can
have
some
offline
conversations
about
what
input
might
look
like,
because
I'd
want
to
make
sure
that
the
we're
thinking
about
other
boards
and
commissions
as
well
and
like
how
their
input
might
be
asked
for
or
obtained
and
not
you
know,
step
on
any
Toes
or
or
forget
anybody.
If
there's
going
to
be
a
a
sense
of
like,
are
they
going
to
be
going
to
affordable
housing,
commission
and
I
I?
Don't
know
that
yet
and
I
don't
think
we
any
of
us
really
know
what
the
process
is
going
to
be.
I
I
We
had
our
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
Retreat
last
week
last
Wednesday,
and
we
talked
about
this
amongst
pzc
and
and
then
planning
staff
and
some
DSD
staff
as
well,
and
this
project
the
way
it
is
likely
going
to
be
looked
at
and
because
we
are
talking
about
a
project
that
literally
probably
has
a
10-year
timeline
right.
This
is
not
going
to
get
built
in
a
year
or
two.
This
is
something
that's
going
to
be
phased.
It's
going
to
be
over.
You
know
many
many
years.
I
It's
one
that
we're
going
to
look
at
like
here's
preliminarily,
what
we're
going
to
do
and
then
these
phases
are
going
to
come
back
for
review
as
those
are
done,
but
as
a
whole,
this
may
be
the
only
chance
to
say:
hey.
We
really
want
X
or
we
really
want.
You
know
something
to
happen
here,
along
Charlotte,
Street
or
wherever
it
may
be,
and
and
you're
definitely
correct.
This
I
definitely
am
not
advocating
that
that
all
development
projects
would
come
through
multimodal.
I
You
know
that's
kind
of
what
I'm
kind
of
here
for
to
be
able
to
listen
to
the
comments
that
that
multimodal
has
you
know
about.
You
know
a
bike
pad
Greenways
and
all
that
and
kind
of
take
it
back
to
Planning
and
Zoning,
but
again,
I.
Think
just
the
scale
and
nature
of
this
requires
perhaps
a
little
bit
more
like
Direct.
I
A
Yeah
thanks
Joe
and
Jessica.
Take
your
point
and
I
just
kind
of
feel
like
because
they're,
the
the
uses
that
were
you
know,
we're
gonna
have
a
new
and
shiny
excuse
me
YMCA,
there's
going
to
be
housing,
you
know,
and
it
just
seems
like
it's:
it's
almost
like
a
community
within
a
community.
So
there's
some
opportunity
for
us
to
you
know
get
involved.
I
just
didn't
know
what
form
that
should
take.
A
G
A
B
B
Like
last
time
when
we
talked
about
speed
limits,
Chris
kind
of
said,
here's
what
we
do
already
in
the
city
and
here's
where
we're
trying
to
mimic
you
know
these
speed
limits
and
things
like
that
and
and
I
said
I
mentioned
it.
Then
the
last
meeting
but
I
also
think
about
now
too,
is
that
I
think
we
need
a
vision.
B
So
they
can
use
all
over
the
city
since
they're
downtown
and
easily
bikeable
to
so
many
different
places,
and
then
the
people
are
coming
to
the
Y
or
to
the
church
or
to
other
places
they
could
have
that
you
know
easily
make
it
so
that
your
bike
is
going
to
be
safe.
You
can
shelter,
no
matter
what
you
know
it'd
be
great
to
have
that
incorporated
they're
like
a
Dutch
style,
if
you're
familiar
at
all
the
way
it
is
in
the
Netherlands.
B
But
this
would
be
like
you
know
something:
that's
not
done
at
any
place
else
in
Asheville
and
that
you
know
is
done
a
few
places,
the
United
States,
but
not
that
much,
but
it's
kind
of
like
how
do
we
create
Asheville
to
be
what
we
want
it
to
be,
and
if
you
really
want
to
make
multimodal
you
know
and
not
and
again
so
it's
not
a
Transit
Center
wouldn't
be
here
because
Transit
Center
there's
other
place,
but
definitely
a
you
know
a
place.
That
would
be
a
Transit
access,
if
not
Hub
as
well
too.
B
But
we
should
those
things
be
really
included
in
this
project,
because
that's
what
we
want
Asheville
to
be
that
you
aren't
car
dependent
necessarily
and
in
order
to
not
be
a
car
dependent,
you
need
those
kind
of
facilities
and
there
aren't
that
many
places
to
put
it
except
for
here
is
a
perfect
place.
That's
downtown,
so
I
think
that
we
should
always
keep
that
kind
of
thing
in
mind
as
we
move
forward
in
this
as
well.
I
J
Sure
just
wanted
to
let
you
guys
know
that
we
are
putting
together
a
plan
to
have
some
some
kind
of
public
meeting
to
to
get
some
more
feedback
from
a
broader
group
of
folks
and
including
stakeholders
on
these
two
corridors,
but
also
Beyond,
just
the
downtown
stakeholders,
and
we
are
looking
at
we're
looking
at
the
end
of
April
or
mid-april.
First.
For
that
event,
we
are
securing
a
space
and
trying
to
kind
of
develop
what
what
that
event
might
look
like.
J
H
J
Yeah
yeah,
so
it's
it's!
Actually,
we
we've
been
calling
it
The,
College
patent,
downtown
project,
downtown
bike,
lane
project,
because
it's
actually
college
and
patent
adding
bike
facilities
to
both
of
those
streets,
kind
of
from
Pritchard
Park
to
builtmore
on
patent
and
Spruce
on
College
Street.
The
city
has
a
website
project
website
about
it
with
detail
about
the
the
plan
and
everything
and
something
that
we've
been
working
on
since
about
this
time
last
year
and
made
a
lot
of
progress
and
Headway.
H
J
Yeah,
it's
we've
mentioned
it
we've
given
project
updates
to
council,
but
it
has
not
come
before
them
for
a
vote
and
that
when
it
gets
to
that
point
where
it
would
come
before
Council,
it
would
be
at
the
point
where
we
would
have
put
the
project
out
to
bid
and
they
would
be
awarding
a
contract
to
insta
install
it.
So
we
are
not
quite
there.
Yet.
We
want
to
finalize
our
public
engagement
and
then
we'd
move
it.
A
J
We
had
well
part
of
our
early
public
engagement
back
in
March
of
2022,
or
so
we
had
some
walking
tours.
We
had
some
virtual
meetings
and
we
we've
gone
to
downtown
commission
and
Downtown
Association,
and
so
there's
been
kind
of
a
steady,
steady
process
of
public
engagement
since
about
February
of
last
year.
J
A
J
The
only
thing
I
would
mention
is
that
we
have
made
progress
on
the
bike
share.
Study,
update
Haley
has
been
feverishly
working
on
making
some
revisions
to
that
and
kind
of
bringing
it
up
to
speed
she's,
also
putting
together
kind
of
like
a
one-page
summary
of
what
what
will
be
what
has
changed
between
the
original
draft
a
couple
years
back
and
what
we're
bringing
forward.
J
J
We're
going
to
make
a
summary
sheet
of
what
we
are
proposing
to
change
or
have
changed
I
do
I
know
you
guys
have
said
like
you,
don't
really
want
me
to
bring
it
back
to
y'all
for
before
we
go
to
council,
but
I
would
like
to
do
that
and
I
think
my
guess
is
probably
May,
but
and
then
we
would.
Theoretically,
we
would
go
to
council
and
have
them
adopt
that
plan.
J
J
Right
here,
right
yeah,
so
what
I
am
planning
to
include
as
a
recommendation
of
the
study,
the
study
itself
wouldn't
change
that
ordinance
that's
in
place
right
now,
but
one
of
the
recommended
action
steps
that
would
be
in
this
revised
plan
is
to
consider
revising
the
ordinance
regarding
e-scooters
and
allow
personal
private
ownership
and
use
for
e-scooters
and
other
similar
type
devices.
So
that's
what
we're
planning
to
change.
As
far
as
the
recommendations
and
the
plan,
okay,.
I
I
J
Right
I
agree:
we
need
to
not
be
in
this
weird
limbo,
because
I
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
different
Contraptions.
If
you
will
that
are
being
used
out
there
now
and
are
very
viable
Transportation
options
and
I
do
think,
there's
a
difference
between
a
a
corporation
and
a
sharing
company
and-
and
you
know,
a
normal
normal
person
like
you
or
me,
having
our
own
Contraption
to
use.
A
H
C
A
Excellent,
okay,
so
for
the
new
folks
we
always
try
to
get
updates
from
the
the
varied
committees
and
groups
and
the
last
couple
of
months
we
haven't
had
time.
We
do
have
time
today,
so
we're
going
to
roll
into
it.
Joe
I
hate,
to
put
you
on
the
spot,
but
if
you
want
to
give
a
quick
Transit
update,
maybe
touch
on
some
points
of
what
was
discussed
at
the
last
meeting.
F
C
D
Yeah
I
can
add
to
that.
We
have
a
walk
of
the
nasty
Branch
Greenway
with
members
of
The
Greenway
committee
and
the
public
art
commission,
as
well
as
staff
members
from
PUD
and
transportation
planning
to
take
a
look
at
different
locations
for
a
piece
of
public
art
along
the
future
nasty
Branch
Greenway,
and
this
public
art
piece
is
based
on
a
poem
that
was
written
by
a
few
youth
from
the
South
Side
neighborhood,
in
conjunction
with
the
North
Carolina
Poet
Laureate
Jackie
Shelton
Greene.
The
poem
was
written
about
three
years
ago.
B
B
We
most
even
focusing
on
the
transition
between
individual
bike,
ped
and
Greenways,
and-
and
we
have
a
documenting
Google
right
now
that
talks
about
things
that
are
important
for
us
to
make
sure
we're
transferred
into
the
new
group
and
and
that's
available
for
people
on
bike
ped
to
provide
input.
And
so
that's
that's
going
on
right
now
and
and
yeah.
B
I
Not
that
I
can
think
of
I
think
I
hit
the
the
major
things
like
I
mentioned.
Last
week
we
had
our
annual
Retreat
and
discussed
more
about
how
to
incorporate
Equity
into
how
planning
the
planning
department
looks
at
zoning
and
projects
through
an
equity
perspective,
as
well
as
how
the
commission
does
spent
quite
a
bit
of
time.
Talking
about
that,
and
then
like
I
mentioned,
also
talked
some
about
the
project
Aspire
and
just
how
we're
going
to
move
forward.
I
J
B
A
Do
not
I
apologize
to
everybody.
Please
note
our
future
agenda
items
and
the
documents
below
we're
gonna
add
a
few
more
items
to
that
for
there's
a
comment.
We've
got
a
few
more
items
to
our
list
and
note
our
next
meeting,
which
is
April
26th.
Without
further
comment.
We
will
take
a
motion
to
adjourn
all
in
favor.