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Members
shall
be
residents
of
the
city
or
the
city's
extra
territorial
zoning
jurisdictions
and
shall
reflect
the
socio-economic
diversity
of
asheville
and
the
term
of
office.
Is
three
years
committee
was
established
to
advise
the
city
council
on
neighborhoods
within
the
city
of
asheville
zoning
and
planning
jurisdictions.
C
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C
And
our
staff
from
city
brenda
mills,
our
liaison,
she
is
the
neighborhood
advisory
committee
and
neighborhood
and
community
engagement
manager.
She
has
worked
with
us
a
very
long
time
and
has
been
extremely
extremely
helpful
in
getting
answers
to
questions
that
we
come
up
with.
Welcome
miss
brendan.
C
C
Evening
and
we
will
begin
to
get
the
first
item
of
business
that
will
meet
a
vote
from
our
members,
and
that
is
the
approval
of
minutes
for
the
february
24
2020
meeting.
Has
everyone
read
those.
F
There
is
one
correction
on
that
in
the
minutes.
It
says
that
we're
approved
the
january
19th
of
or
2019
minutes
instead
of
the
january
20
20
minutes.
That
needs
to
be
corrected.
It's
a
typo.
C
C
F
C
G
D
C
And
me
I
say
yes,
so
the
minutes
are
approved.
Our
next
item
of
business
is
the
staff
report
from
brenda.
Thank
you.
B
I'm
going
to
keep
this
short,
I
was
going
to
type
up
a
bunch
of
stuff,
but
it's
been
a
lot
of
months,
but
I
wanted
to
highlight
a
couple
of
things
with
the
covet
19
response.
B
H
Center,
the
area
command,
which
is
our
organization's
emergency
operations
center,
then
the
one
for
the
whole
region
and
then
also
the
joint
information
center,
which
is
a
county
city
and
other
service
providers
like
hospitals,
they're
all
involved
in
that
great.
B
Thank
you,
so
I
in
my
role,
I
helped
with
community
response,
so
I
worked
with
a
team
from
the
county
in
mayheck
and
we
were
working
on
just
getting
materials
masks
things
of
that
nature.
I
just
want
to
give
a
big
shout
out
to
our
staff.
We
have
at
least
four
or
five
staff
that
went
to
work
making
masks.
B
There
was
a
big
need
for
children's
masks
and
one
of
our
staff
members
worked
with
the
united
way
and
and
2-1-1
to
to
do
that
so
yeah.
So
we
were,
we
were
in
high
alert
for
a
good
while
most
of
the
city
is.
B
We
are
able
to
work
remotely,
those
that
can
our
building
is
open
back
up
and,
of
course,
you
know,
there's
restrictions
to
how
many,
but
most
people
there's
somebody
on
every
floor
to
kind
of
man,
everything
we
do
have
a
new
security
team,
and
so,
although
you'll
still
be
scanned,
they
will
be
checking
purses
and
bags
and
things
of
that
nature
very
nice
young
men
down
front.
B
We've
got
about
maybe
four
or
five
that
do
virtual
meetings,
so
that
would
be
we
can
does
virtual
meetings
burton
street
eastern
valley
does
like
a
conference
call-
and
I
attended
grove
park's
meeting
so
hopefully
we'll
be
helping
them
manage
to
get
back
on,
because
I'm
sure
it's
going
to
be
a
little
bit
a
little
bit
longer
before
we
can
go
back
to
meeting
and
then
just
want
to
highlight
reimagining
public
safety
in
our
public
input.com
customer
relations
management
software.
We
have
been
totally
blown
away.
B
This
software
did
not
have
the
capability
of
virtual
meetings
when
we
all
went
on
lockdown
in
march,
so
they
just
went
to
work.
Put
all
this
together
have
been
really
shepherding
us
along
in
terms
of
the
the
product
that
we
have.
It's
just
continually
improving
and
I
looked
on
it
the
other
day
and
it
says
we
had
22
000
subscribers.
B
We
have
never
had
that
many,
so
the
engagement
of
people
to
watch
meetings
call
in
and
listen.
You
know.
If
you
have
vision
or
hearing
problems,
you
know
you
can
do
that
and
then
you
don't
have
to
drive
down
if
you
got
kids
or
homework
to
do,
and
so
we
have
been
very,
very
pleased
we're
looking
at
coming
up
on
the
contract
renewal
in
march.
I
don't
think
we
have
any
problems
with
it.
B
They
have
been
very,
I
think
I
trained
about
50
or
60
staff
members
and
now
we're
getting
like
you
saw
heard
with
shannon
they're
learning
to
do
their
own
meeting,
so
we
can
get
back
to
some
semblance
of
normalcy
down
the
road.
So
that's
it
for
me
and
then
we'll
be
talking
about
some
other
good
news
later.
C
Thank
you,
brandon.
The
next
item
of
business
on
the
agenda
is
the
home
state
update
on
the
ordinance
and
I
believe,
shannon
is
going
to
give
that
presentation.
Shannon
you're
up.
Thank.
J
You
and
good
evening
so
most
of
the
commissioners
probably
are
aware
that
the
city's
had
homestay
standards
for
quite
some
time.
In
fact,
this
the
original
set
of
standards
date
back
to
2005
and
those
standards
seem
to
work
pretty
well
for
about
the
first
10
years
or
so.
But
on
and
around
2015
we
saw
a
very,
very
large
increase
in
interest
in
home
stays
through
the
advent
of
airbnb
and
other
online
rental
platforms.
J
So
we
thought
it
was
important
to
add
that
to
the
code
and
around
the
same
time
we
had
a
lot
of
interest
in
hotels
and
hotel
regulation
as
well.
So
the
definition
of
kitchen
was
intended
to
classify
any
space
that
had
any
one
of
the
three
main
features
of
the
kitchen
and
those
features
include
a
sink:
a
full-size
refrigerator
and
a
stove.
So
if
you
had
any
one
of
those
three
things,
those
three
primary
elements,
you
work
that
space
was
classified
as
a
kitchen,
and
that
became
important
in
terms
of
defining
a
dwelling
unit.
J
J
But
it
was
also
to
provide
greater
clarity
between
the
different
forms
of
lodging.
So
again
that
was
in
2018
when
we
were
looking
at
hotel
regulations,
but
pretty
much
from
the
beginning.
The
definition
proved
to
be
somewhat
problematic
and
it
was
problematic
both
for
the
staff
and
for
the
community
members,
and
so
we
we
began
work
almost
right
away
on
revising
that
definition
and
where
we
last
left
off
in
2019,
it
included
allowing
a
sink
in
a
full-size
refrigerator,
but
not
a
stove.
J
So,
as
a
result
of
those
conversations
we're
now
promoting
proposing
a
more
permissive
definition
of
kitchen
that
would
allow
a
homestay
owner
to
move
more
easily
between
long
and
short-term
renting
without
issues.
So
this
is
something
we've
seen
a
lot
in
the
pandemic,
particularly
in
the
beginning,
when
other
forms
of
or
lodging
and
travel
was
much
more
heavily
restricted.
J
We
had
a
lot
of
home
state
owners
wanting
to
be
able
to
rent
on
a
long-term
basis,
and
so
a
lot
of
those
folks
kind
of
abandoned
the
short-term,
renting
and
went
to
long-term
renting
in
order
to
kind
of
make
use
of
that
space
and
maybe
still
get
a
little
income.
But
now,
as
things
are
starting
to
fall,
they
kind
of
want
to
go
back,
but
some
of
them
really
liked
the
long-term
renting
and
want
to
keep
doing
that.
J
And
that
is
that
is
something
that
the
homestay
network
was
very
interested
in,
because
they
wanted
the
flexibility
to
be
able
to
go
back
and
forth,
and
we
as
a
city,
a
city
staff.
We
wanted
them
to
have
that
flexibility
too,
when
it
could
be
and
when
it
worked
for
that
family
to
be
able
to
use
that
space
on
a
long-term
basis
or
to
provide
housing
on
a
long-term
basis.
J
We
wanted
them
to
be
able
to
do
that
and
you
know
be
able
to
add
some
housing
to
the
community,
but
another
change
or
or
rather
in
order
to
sorry.
Let
me
back
up
for
a
second,
so
the
the
definition
of
kitchen
is
kind
of
where
we
started
and
the
the
community
wanted
that
flexibility.
We
wanted
that
com
that
flexibility,
so
that
was
one
of
those
kind
of
common
goals.
J
We
wanted
to
control
some
of
the
nuisance
issues.
We
wanted
to
control
the
loss
of
housing,
so
one
of
the
things
that
we
wanted
to
do
was
really
control
investors.
We
didn't
really
want.
We
wanted
to
open
up
this
economic
opportunity
to
residents
in
the
community,
but
we
didn't
necessarily
want
to
make
it
really
easy
for
people
to
come
in
and
buy
up
a
lot
of
housing
stock
and
then
convert
it
into
you
know
airbnbs.
J
J
We
talked
with
our
legal
staff
to
see
if
we
could
legally
defensibly
limit
a
homestay
property
to
being
only
one
per
person
or
household
or
llc
or
trust
or
any
other
of
those
kind
of
legal
entities,
and
they
felt
like
we
could
so
so
we
are
proposing
to
do
that
as
part
of
the
changes.
J
So
with
that,
though,
in
order
to
better
enforce
who
gets
a
homestay
and
to
track
and
make
sure
that
every
person
only
gets
one
or
any
you
if
you're
a
property
or
if
you're,
a
member
of
that
llc
or
trust,
you
can
all
still
only
get
one.
So
we're
actually
going
to
look
at.
J
Who
is
a
member
of
an
llc
or
a
trust
and
and
cross-reference
that
against
our
database
and
make
sure
that
if
you
are
a
property
owner
and
you
live
in
house
a
and
you
have
an
investment
in
house
b
and
it's
owned
in
a
family
trust.
And
it's
got
four
family
members.
But
if
you
are
one
of
the
members
that
automatically
disqualifies
you,
if
you
have
a,
if
you
already
have
a
home,
stay
in
property
a
so
so
that
way
we
kind
of
feel
like
we
can
kind
of
control
those
investors.
J
I
I'm
not
sure
if
I
explained
that
as
well
as
I
could
have,
but
I'll
come
back
to
that
in
a
little
bit.
If
there
are
any
questions
so
in
order
to
make
sure
that
if
a
property
owner
isn't
living
on
the
property,
another
change
to
the
ordinance
is
to
to
require
that
if
you
don't
live
there,
that
you
be
a
co-applicant
with
the
resident
manager
on
the
application.
So
this
is
how
we're
going
to
track
the
investors
and
their
home
states.
J
So
if
you
live
in
property
a
but
you
own
property
b
and
you
want
a
home
stay
in
property
b,
you
have
to
be
an
applicant
and
we
didn't
do
that
before
we
had
the
resident
manager
of
the
homestay
and
property
b
be
the
applicant.
So
now
we're
saying
you
both
have
to
be
applicants
and
they
are
equally
responsible
for
the
maintaining
that
homestay
and
in
terms
of
the
city's
in
terms
of
compliance
they're,
equally
responsible.
J
This
also
gives
the
property
owners
and
that
resident
manager
a
little
bit
of
flexibility
to
work
out.
You
know
the
arrangement
that
works
best
for
them.
So
in
some
way
we
heard
a
lot
of
stories
about
you
know.
In
some
cases
the
resident
manager
does
all
of
the
work
like
they
manage
it
100
themselves
in
other
situations.
Maybe
the
resident
manager
is
just
there
to
greet
people
and
make
sure
that
everything
stays
peaceful
and
that
there
aren't
any
big
problems.
J
Other
instances
you
know
maybe
they're
there
and
they
clean
the
units,
you
know,
and
then
they
get
a
discount
on
their
rent.
So
whatever
it
is,
we
city
wants
to
stay
out
of
the
middle
of
that
and
just
let
the
property
owner
and
that
resident
manager
manage
that
themselves,
the
other.
So
those
those
are
three
changes.
There's
a
fourth
change.
The
other
substantive
change
is
that
we're
proposing
to
no
longer
allow
accessory
structures
to
be
used
as
home
stays.
So
we
had
some
instances
where
folks
had
a
detached
excuse
me.
J
I
meant
detached
accessory
structures,
so
some
folks
had
like
little
studio
buildings
that
they
converted
into
home
stays
and
or
we
also
had
some
that
were
detached
accessory
dwelling
units
and
we
had
people
sort
of
dismantle
their
kitchen,
which
sort
of
declassified
that
dwelling
unit
as
just
an
accessory
structure,
and
then
they
put
a
homestay
in
it.
So
we
didn't
really
want
people
converting
detached
accessories
structures
or
dwelling
units
into
home
stays
by
dismantling
them.
J
J
The
second
change
is
to
limit
permits
to
one
per
person,
corporation,
llc,
trust
or
other
legal
entities.
The
third
is
to
require
the
property
owner
to
be
a
co-applicant
if
they
do
not
live
on
the
property
and
then
the
fourth
is
to
explicitly
prohibit
the
use
of
detached
accessory
structures
to
be
used
as
homestays.
J
In
addition
to
those,
we
had
some
other
minor
clarifications
that
I
don't
think
materially
change
the
ordinance
and
the
homestay
network
folks
didn't
have
any
issue
with,
so
that
is
kind
of
it.
In
a
nutshell,
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
or
try
to
clarify
anything.
If
any
of
that
didn't
quite
make
sense
I'll
turn
it
over
to
you.
C
D
D
J
Sure
so
a
home
state,
by
definition,
is
up
to
is
basically
a
space
in
one's
home
that
can
be
used
for
transient
lodging.
So
it's
up
to
two
rooms
in
one's
home
to
be
used
for
transient
lodging,
so
it
has
to
be
part
of
your
home.
Now,
that's
where
it
gets
a
little
confusing
for
folks,
because
how
building
safety
classifies
the
dwelling
units
a
little
bit
different
than
how
zoning
classifies
a
dwelling
unit.
We
all
agree.
J
Both
both
groups
agree
that
a
dwelling
unit
generally
is
classified
as
a
space
that
has
independent
sleeping
sanitation
and
like
food
preparation
space.
So
if
you
have
a
kitchen,
a
bathroom
and
a
bedroom,
your
dwelling
unit,
now
building
safety,
looks
at
single
family
properties
a
little
bit
different
than
zoning
does.
So
if
we
were
looking
at
a
like
a
daylighted
basement,
which
is
one
of
the
most
common
homestay
scenarios
that
we
have
in
the
city
and-
and
that
was
just
your
basement-
it
was
it
was
connected.
J
You
had
a
stairwell
to
the
basement.
You
had
a
spare
bedroom
down
there
and
you
had
a
bathroom
down
there.
A
lot
of
folks
under
our
current
ordinance,
just
maybe
added
like
a
little
convenience
kitchen
like
so
they
didn't
trigger
that
kitchen
classification.
J
You
know
they
might
have
a
microwave
and
a
coffee
pot
and
a
little
mini
fridge,
or
something
like
that
that
that
is
considered
part
of
your
home
and
so
a
homestay
can
be
in
that
space.
Even
though
it's
sort
of
private
it's
in
a
lower
level,
it
may
or
may
not
have
separate
entrance
that
that's
permitted
to
be
used
as
a
homestay.
J
If
you,
but
now
we're
saying-
and
you
can
have
more
than
just
that-
little
convenience
kitchen
now-
you
can
actually
have
like
a
sink
and
maybe
a
mid-size
refrigerator,
and
maybe
some
counters
and
whatever
all
of
those
sort
of
kitchen
amenities
and
the
it
doesn't
really
change
the
classification
under
the
building
code,
because
building
code
doesn't
limit
how
many
kitchens
you
can
have.
You
can
be
one
dwelling
unit
and
have
multiple
kitchens
and
a
lot
of
us
think
of
those
spaces.
J
J
We
do
have
some
scenarios
where
those
spaces
are
not
connected
internally
and
when
they're
not
connected
internally,
and
you
have
to
like
sort
of
go
outside
and
go
around
the
back
and
go
in
then,
and
then
you
add
a
kitchen,
then
that
becomes
really
a
dwelling
unit,
because
now
it's
an
independent,
separate
space
that
has
those
three
features:
the
the
bedroom,
the
bathroom
and
the
the
kitchen.
J
J
Does
that
help
answer
your
question
and
now,
of
course
too?
If
it's
detached,
thank
you
yeah
and
if
it's
detached
regardless
of
what
you
do
to
it,
and
you
have
those
three
things:
the
building
code
and
the
zoning
code
is
going
to
call
that
a
dwelling
unit
regardless
some
folks.
What
we
didn't
want
was
people
who
had
accessory
dwelling
units
dismantled
or
basically
removed
their
kitchen
or
parts
of
the
kitchen
so
that
we
could
no
longer
call
it
a
dwelling
unit
and
then
they
put
it
made
it
into
a
home
state.
We.
F
J
Want
people
to
do
that,
so
that's
why
we
are
proposing
to
prohibit
the
use
of
accessory
structures
of
any
kind.
There
are
also
more.
I
think
the
general
feeling
about
detached
accessory
structures
is
that
they
just
feel
more
comfortable
as
independent
dwelling
units.
It's
it's
a
it's,
arguably,
a
more
suitable
long-term
setup
for
somebody
wanting
to
live
long-term
than
being.
You
know,
underneath
that
the
floor
of
somebody
else's
house,
that's
kind
of
the
thinking
behind
it.
C
I
Yes,
I'm
just
curious
about
sort
of
the
timeline
for
rolling
out
the
proposed
changes
and
next
steps.
J
So
we
have
already:
we've
talked
with
the
planning
and
economic
development
committee.
We
are
we've
already
been
before
the
planning
and
zoning
commission,
but
under
the
under
the
remote
meeting
rules
for
public
hearings,
we
actually
have
to
go
before
them
twice.
So
the
we
had
the
just
some
of
the
discussion
and
presentation
on
december
2nd.
We
go
back
this
thursday
for
completing
the
deliberation
and
the
vote.
J
C
You
any
more
questions
for
shannon
good
job
cannon.
Thank
you
so
much
for
bringing
that
to
us.
We
we
have
to
keep
these
home
stays
and
airbnbs
it's
a
struggle
for
the
city,
since
we
have
so
many
of
them,
and
I
thank
you
for
all
your
hard
work.
You
did
a
good
job
explaining
that
all
right
did.
You
have.
D
Oh
sorry,
okay,
I
just
wanted.
I
I
well,
I
don't
know
if
you
want
our
opinion
yet,
but
I
did
have
a
question
about
you
had
mentioned,
city
staff
got
together
and
the
home
state
people
from
the
homestay
network
were
any
neighborhood
representatives
included
in
this,
and,
if
not,
is
that
something
that
the
city
could
consider
going
forward
so
that
we
have
like
both
sides
of
the
coin
involved
in
these
changes?.
J
Yeah
I'll
do
my
best
to
answer
that,
but
I
don't
I
don't
want
to.
Please
understand:
I'm
not
trying
to
speak
on
behalf
of
council
members
or
or
anything
like
that,
but
we
had
originally
worked
with
a
a
task
force
that
was
a
balanced
homestay
and
neighborhood
representation
to
kind
of
help
direct.
Whether
or
not
you
know
like,
for
instance,
should
detach
accessory
structures
be
used
can't
should
they
be.
I
was
on
that
yeah.
J
So
we
kind
of
started
there,
and
then
we
crafted
the
definition.
Well
then
we
we
actually
became
more
restrictive
in
those
standards,
so
that
was
back
in
gosh,
probably
that
was
probably
around
2015
when
we
had
that
task
force.
Maybe
you
remember
more,
but
but
then
over
those
the
following
three
years
we
actually
got
more
restrictive
and
it
was
that
kitchen
definition
that
really
sort
of
kicked
everybody
in
the
butt
and
the
homestay
network.
J
Folks
really
were
really
not
pleading,
but
I
mean
they
were
very
insistent
that
this
was
problematic
and
we
really
should
look
at
it
and
that
they
didn't
think
it
was
in
the
best
interest
of
the
city.
J
So
there
was
a
lot
of
conversation
between
them
and
council
members
and
we
had
some
discussions
at
playing
economic
development
committee,
so
it
was
just
decided
that
we
needed
to
work
on
that
definition
and
then,
as
I
mentioned,
it
was
kind
of
it
just
sort
of
evolved
during
this
sort
of
quiet
time
during
the
pandemic
that
we
really
were
like
okay,
let's
rather
than
argue
about
this,
let's
really
think
about
it
like
what
are
the
common
goals?
How
can
we
all
achieve?
J
You
know
what
we're
hoping
to
achieve,
or
can
we,
and
so
that's
kind
of
where
we
ended
up
knack-
was
not
meeting
during
a
lot
of
this
discussion.
So
I
think
this
is
your
first
meeting
in
a
while.
Is
that
correct?
So
it
was,
I
didn't.
We
didn't
really
have
the
opportunity
to
meet
with
you
all,
and
I
mean
I
think
the
home
state
people
would
say
that
they
do
represent
the
community,
but
you
know
I
know
what
you
mean.
J
It's
not
quite
the
same
thing,
so
I
guess
that's
a
long
way
to
say
we
did
not
directly
solicit
input
from
neighborhood
groups
or
folks
representing
those
stakeholders,
but
I
I
think
we
were
trying
to
certainly
channel
and
take
those
considerations
that
have
been
expressed
in
the
past
and
because
you
know
into
into
consideration
and
kind
of
weighed
them
in
balance.
So
we
we
definitely
we're
trying
to.
J
I
don't
want
to
like
bog
this
conversation
down
unnecessarily,
but
a
lot
of
what
we're
thinking,
sort
of
comes
also
from
the
the
difficulty
of
enforcing
the
ordinance,
and
there
are
certain
things
that
are
just
completely
impractical
to
enforce,
and
so
we're
kind
of
giving
up
on
some
of
that
we're
like
saying:
okay,
it's
it's
really
not
practical
for
us
to
say
you
can't
have
a
stove
right.
So
then
people
have
their
inspection,
they
don't
have
a
stove
and
then,
as
soon
as
we
leave,
they
just
put
the
stove
back
in.
J
J
So
what
can
we
do?
That
is
within
our
control
that
is
enforceable
or
probably
easier
to
enforce?
Well,
so
then,
that's
when
we
looked
at
trying
to
limit
the
number
of
permits
per
entity,
and
we
think
that
this
will
help.
I'm
sure
there's
probably
going
to
be
a
way
that
people
are
going
to
try
to
avoid
detection
that
way
too,
but
I
think
it's
going
to
work
better
yeah
yeah,
so
the
whole
kitchen,
sorry
good.
D
Oh,
I
was
just
gonna
comment
that
I
I
think
that
the
where
you
ended
up,
I
think,
is
good
and
is
in
the
best
interest
of
most
of
the
community
members
and
neighborhoods,
and
I
appreciate
that
the
city
kind
of
had
like
neighborhoods
in
their
head
doing
this.
I
just
bring
it
up
because,
like
it
turned
out
fine
this
time,
but
I
would
just
worry
about
future
conversations
that
might
change
policy.
Just
I
just
want
to
advocate
for-
and
please
say
please
you
know
please.
D
Even
if
max
not
meeting
you
know,
cam
is
is
still
meeting
and-
and
there
are
lots
of
active
neighborhoods
that
that
would
want
to
have
their
voice
heard
too.
Oh.
J
Sure
yeah
and
I
would
say
so-
we
would
definitely
want
snacks
input,
all
things
you
know
being
normal
and
should,
and
if
I
came
before
you
this
evening
and
you
all
had
some
very
significant
and
serious
concerns,
I
think
we
would
pause.
J
We
would
hit
the
pause
button
and
meet
with
you
guys
and
try
to
understand
that
and
then
go
back
to
the
homestay
network
if
we
needed
to
so
I
mean
I,
I
think
that
that
was
definitely
a
consideration,
and
so
when
we
saw
that
you
guys
were
meeting
I
reached
out
to
brenda-
and
I'm
like
you
know
when
is
can
or
knack
meeting
again
and
so
she's
like
well,
probably
not
till
you
know
december
and
I'm
like.
Can
I
get
on
your
agenda?
I
mean
it
was
definitely
part
of
the
consideration
so.
C
F
I
did
have
a
quick
question:
the
desire
to
be
able
to
switch
from
short-term
to
long-term
does
that
require
different
permits,
and
will
they
if
they
want
to
switch
back
and
forth?
Are
they
going
to
require
a
lot
more
work
from
your
department
to
reissue
these
permits.
J
That's
a
great
question,
so
they
will
not
need
to
reapply,
but
they
will
have
to
keep
their
home
stay
permit
active.
So
if
they
decide
to
rent
long
term
for
six
months
and
during
that
six
month
time
period,
their
annual
home
stay
permit
were
to
expire,
they
would
need
to
renew
it,
so
they
can't
let
it
lapse.
They'll
have
to
kind
of
keep
it
going.
I.
F
J
C
J
C
You
too,
all
right
next
on
our
agenda
is
the
neighborhood
services,
the
decisions,
and
I
believe
that
brenda
and
dollar
are
up.
H
Bring
in
the
rear
sure
I
would
love
to
so
I
I
am
and
extremely
excited
to
share
with
you
all
if
you
haven't
heard
the
news
yet
that
from
the
reimagining
public
safety
engagement
that
we
did
earlier
this
summer
and
into
this
fall,
one
of
the
things
that
bubbled
to
the
top
was
was
definitely
that
public
safety
is
more
than
just
policing
and
that
being
safe
in
your
community
has
to
do
with
the
access
you
have
to
resources
in
a
lot
of
different
arenas,
and
so
it
out
of
respect
for
all
of
the
engagement
that
we
had
around
that
and
and
some
of
the
themes
it
was.
H
H
So
we
have
a
new
position
that
we've
advertised
for
brenda
has
been
working
tires
tirelessly
to
work
with
the
cross
departmental
team
about
what
that
position
should
be,
how
it
can
coordinate
with
other
positions
in
the
city
so
that
we
can
maximize
all
that
this
position
can
do
and
what
it
boils
down
to
is
we're
going
to
have
one
more
person
that
can
be
out
in
the
community
who
can
be
at
neighborhood
meetings,
helping
neighborhoods
solve
the
problems
that
they
experience,
that
impact
their
quality
of
life
and,
at
the
same
time,
building
leadership
and
capacity
within
those
neighborhoods.
H
So
what
I
like
to
say
is:
if
we
do
a
really
great
job,
we
should
be
working
ourselves
out
of
a
job
right,
because
we
do
not
see
that
neighborhoods
are
separate
from
the
government
that
serves
them.
It's
really
all
of
us
working
together
to
be
part
of
the
decision-making
process
that
creates
this
environment
that
we
live
in
and
the
access
we
have
to
resources.
So
we
are
thrilled.
H
I
I
I
can't
express
enough
how
excited
I
am
to
have
this
person,
and
I
know
brenda's
going
to
be
a
great
manager
for
this
position
and
we
could
use
10
more
of
them
to
get.
You
know
all
of
the
things
done
that
we
want
to
get
done,
but
it's
a
real
exciting
time
for
us
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
the
collaboration
and
the
more
connections
that
we'll
be
able
to
make.
So
brenda
was
that
broad
enough,
you
want
to.
B
Wonderful
and
I
just
want
to
give
them
sort
of
a
timeline,
so
you
know
next
week
is
christmas,
just
in
case
most
of
you
can't
believe
it,
and
we
had
a
significant
response
to
this
job.
I
probably
have
talked
about
10
or
12
people.
I
you
know
we
put
in
the
advertisement.
They
could
call
if
they
had
questions.
B
B
It's
been
out
there
almost
three
weeks,
so
we
at
friday,
I
think
we
had
about
89
or
90
applications
so
and
hr
was
about
a
third
of
the
way
reviewing
so
the
first
week
in
january.
Where
we'll
be
back
and
we'll
be,
we
will
have
selected
five
people
to
interview
at
the
end
of
that
week.
So
we'll
keep
you
posted
as
we
look
and
we
hoping
to
make
an
offer
and
have
somebody
on
board
by
the
third
week
in
january,
if
that's
possible,
so
do
you
have
any
questions
about
the
position
or.
B
K
Would
you
know
I
live
in
shiloh
and
I
would
like
to
see
someone
in
that
position.
That
would
be
saying.
Well,
I'm
gonna
come
to
shiloh
and
I'm
gonna
talk
to
the
people
in
shiloh
and
not
you
know,
and
to
actually
hear
what
we
have
to
say.
Justice
burton
street
east
end
not
just
somebody
that
would
have
that.
B
That's
that's
great,
that's
a
great
thing.
We
also
hope
to
start
using
our
neighborhood
advisory
committee
to
help
us
attend
meetings
in
the
community,
because
there's
way
more
than
even
two
people
can
attend.
So
we'll
be
talking
a
little
bit
more
about
that.
C
G
Did
you
call
me?
Yes,
I
did?
Oh
I'm
sorry.
Is
there
a
specific
job
description
for
this
that
could
be
shared
with
us?
I'd
like
to
see
the
criteria
that
you're
looking
for
in
this
person
and
what
job
description
looks
like
what
you're
asking
people
to
do
specifically.
B
Yes,
if
you
on
your
agenda,
there's
a
link
to
the
negative
services
specialist.
If
you
click
on
that
it'll,
take
you
right,
but
you
better
go
because
it
closes
at
midnight
right.
H
All
right,
we
really
yeah
sharon.
Well,
it's
it's
a
big
job
and
I
hear
from
this
committee
often
that
you
appreciate
what
a
big
job
it
it
is,
and
so
there's
a
wide
range
of
experience
and
both
lived
and
as
far
as
education
goes,
that
lived
experience
and
that
ability
to
connect
with
people
is
definitely
one
of
the
brenda.
H
Do
you
think
that
that's
fair
to
say
that
the
ability
to
connect
and
to
be
able
to
translate
right
government
speak
to
what
that
means
to
people,
because
again,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
our
job
is
to
make
sure
that
access
to
the
decisions
that
impact
everybody's
day-to-day
life
are
available
to
all
people.
That's
really
what
drives
all
the
work
we
do,
whether
it's
neighborhood
coordination
or
our
general
communication,
so
we're
hoping
they're
skilled
in
both
of
those
areas
to
help
us
move
that
board.
B
Thank
you
and
just
a
little
reminder.
My
job
is
twofold.
I
also
lead
the
public
engagement
efforts
of
the
city,
so
don't
do
all
of
it,
but
you
know
I
was
needing
in
the
reimagining,
so
having
an
additional
person
will
help
us
to
kind
of
move
forward
into
the
future,
some
strategic
thinking,
some
kind
of
things
that
we
need
to
put
in
in
place
for
neighborhoods.
C
Well,
y'all
did
a
good
job,
it's
a
job,
that's
for
sure
that
both
of
you
hold
all
right.
Our
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
vacancies
on,
of
course,
there's
always
vacancies
on
boards
and
commissions,
but
we
have
two
vacancies
on
the
neighborhood
advisory
committee,
one
for
28804
and
one
for
at
large.
C
I
would
love
to
have
y'all
spread.
The
word
talk
to
people
who
may
be
interested
the
applications
close
december,
the
28th,
and
we
need
to
get
a
full
house
for
the
nat
committee.
So
please
sell
this
to
those
that
you
know,
and
that
would
like
to
be
involved
or
maybe
they
don't
really
realize
what
we
do.
But
let's
get
two
more
members
on
here
so
that
we're
a
full
house.
C
Now
we
have
election
of
officers
since
I
am
bowing
out
after
tonight
we
have
nominations,
are
open
for
the
chairperson
and
vice
chairperson,
and
I
believe
we
need
nominations.
So,
let's
see
hands
all
right,
greta
go.
C
E
C
C
G
C
A
C
G
D
C
B
B
I'm
sorry
brandon.
I
think
we
technically
have
to
vote
on
the
recording
secretary
who's
now
here.
Nicole
now
does
that,
so
I
guess
you
need
to
ask
him.
Is
he
continuing
take
nominations
from
the
floor.
C
Okay,
yeah
all
right
joe.
We
would
like
to
know
if
you
would
continue
as
the
secretary
for
the
neighborhood
advisory
committee.
Okay,
all
right,
you
did
such
a
good
job.
Thank
you!
So
very
much
so
shall
we
have
a
vote
on
that
brenda
or
yeah?
Okay,
greta.
C
All
right,
thank
you,
freda
your
vote,
please
joe,
or
this
or
a
second
for
a.
K
C
Nomination,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much
all
right,
all
those
good
folks,
anna,
are
you
in
favor.
Yes,.
C
A
C
C
All
right,
our
next
agenda
item
on
this
is
updates
for
board
meetings
for
2021,
and
I
believe
brenda
has
that
portion
of
me.
B
Yeah
and
now,
if
I
get
anything
wrong,
please
correct
me,
but
basically
we're
going
to
try
to
go
to
boards
and
commissions
meeting
every
other
month,
starting
in
2021.
B
What
we're
going
to
do
is
assign
boards
a
month
to
meet
so
some
may
start
in
january
may
start
in
february,
but
you
you
only
need
to
meet
if
you
have
a
reason
to
meet,
so
that
would
be
a
legal
reason
or
a
matter
that
needs
to
go
to
city,
council
or
another
board,
and
without
you,
meaning
they
wouldn't
be
able
to
do
that.
I'm
going
to
ask
permission
for
us
to
move
in
february
so
that
you
can
meet
the
new
staff
person.
B
A
It
would
seem
that
we
there's
regularly
recurring
events
and
developments
that
are
always
happening.
It
would
seem
that
we
regularly
need
to
be
able
to
talk
in
order
to
communicate
what's
going
on
and
and
help
people,
I
would
hope
that
we
would
meet
regularly.
I
mean
every
other
month,
obviously,
but.
B
If
you
note
something,
that's
of
concern
to
you
as
a
board
that
you
feel
like
you
need
to
meet
about,
if
you're,
just
communicating
with
people,
that's
a
little
bit
like
you,
want
a
presentation
at
your
board
meeting
or
because,
if
it's,
if,
if
you're,
not
if
you're,
not
in
line
to
get
something
to
council
we're
trying
not
to
we
have
over
35
boards
that
wasn't
live
so
we're
doing
every
other
month.
We
will
meet
in
february,
and
I
can
let
you
know
about
april
after
that.
Is
that
a
good.
B
I
got
you,
but
I'm
going
to
say
that
we,
you
get
a
neighborhood
newsletter
every
two
weeks.
There's
the
ask
the
city,
the
e-newsletter.
If
you
are
not
getting
that,
you
need
to
register
to
get
that
that
comes
out
once
a
month,
I
believe,
and
then,
if
you're,
not
if
you're
on
facebook,
I
know
everybody
is
not
or
twitter.
You
need
to
follow
us
as
a
city.
B
There
are
other
board
meetings
that
you
now
can
participate
in,
because
everything
well,
we've
already
had
them
on
youtube,
but
you
can
go
in
and
check
out
agendas.
Sharon
serves
with
the
urban
forestry
commission
as
a
liaison
on
technical
review.
So
one
of
the
things
I'd
like
for
us
to
talk
about,
maybe
in
february,
is
you
guys
just
picking
a
board
and
attending
those
meetings?
And
if
you
have
things
that
come
up
that
need
our
attention,
your
attention
and
specific
we'd
be
glad
to
ask
for
permission
for
you
to
meet
no
problem.
F
Yes,
I
do
is
the
requirement
that
we
submit
an
annual
report
by
the
end
of
january
suspended
this
year.
F
Yes,
okay.
Also,
I
I
I'm,
I
I'm
not
happy
with
meeting
every
other
month.
I
I
think
that
I
I
don't
think
that
we
put
so
much
a
a
burden
on
staff
to
have
us
meet
and
it
puts
such
a
delay
going
from
say
february
through
april
that
if
we
wanted
to
get
something
done,
if
we
wanted
to
get
something
city
council
by
time,
we
approved
it
and
discussed
it,
we
have
no
time
to
discuss
anything.
It
would
never
get
done.
H
Well,
maybe
I'll
hear
from
everybody
and
then
maybe
I
can
offer
a
little
more
insight
about
how
we
got
here
and
and
what
the
opportunities
are
and
what
the
different
avenues
are.
As
far
as
decision
making
goes
with
that
being
one
of
your
core
responsibilities
to
to
advise
council
on
policy
decisions
that
they're
making
also.
H
So
that
some,
my
understanding
is
that
subcommittees
can
meet
right.
The
thing
that's
limiting
us
is
the
open
meetings
laws,
and
so,
if
there
is
less
than
a
quorum
of
this
committee
that
would
like
to
get
together
to
discuss
things
that
can
certainly
still
happen.
It's
just
when
you
get
to
that
quorum
or,
if
there's
any
deliberation,
that's
being
made
as
far
as
a
decision
goes,
that
that
we've
got
to
meet
those
general
statutes
for
for
meeting
those
open
records
laws.
E
I
And
this
might
be
part
of
sort
of
your
addendum
to
this
brenda.
Is
this
mostly
just
how
we're
proposing
to
do
it
during
times
of
covid
and
then
ultimately
revert
back,
okay,
yeah
and
oh
go
ahead,
and
then
I
have
it.
B
What
I'm
planning
to
do
is
we're
gonna
we're
working
towards
having
hybrid
meetings,
because
we
don't
want
this
accessibility
to
go
away.
We
want
people
to
be
able
to
see
your
meetings
and
participate
in
your
meetings,
but
until
we
see
the
spread
lesson
they're,
you
know
starting
to
do
immunizations
in
the
next
few
weeks.
City
is
not
even
meeting
in
person.
So
as
soon
as
we
can,
we
will
let
you
know.
Yeah.
I
Okay,
thank
you
and
then
this
kind
of
touches
something
I
wanted
to
bring
up,
because
I
noticed
it
wasn't
in
the
agenda
and
then
I
wasn't
sure
if
I
needed
to
prepare
anything
I'm
so
I'm
the
knack
liaison
for
multimodal.
I
I
I
don't
want
to
take
on
any
more,
but
we
did
meet
virtually
last
week
and
I
wasn't
sure
if
you
wanted
an
update
from
that,
because
there
are
some
things
that
come
up
out
of
that,
where
I'm
not
sure
if
it
would
warrant
us
needing
to
discuss
or
receive
presentations
from
staff,
but
at
the
very
least
it
might
just
weren't
just
about
potentially
meeting
so
if
it's
not
appropriate
tonight.
Just
let
me
know
what.
B
We
can
do
in
between
the
meetings,
I'll
be
glad
to
send
you
updates
and
if
you
think,
if
you
go
to
a
meeting
or
you
hear
of
something
now
keep
in
mind,
sometimes
things
are
not
ready
to
be
presented
at
a
board
meeting.
So
when
it
is,
we
can
we
can
talk
about
it.
Mike's
been
really
active
because
he
lives
in
the
south
french
broad
area
with
the
ashland
avenue
project,
and
so,
if
you
find
things
that
you
would
like
to
talk
about
as
a
board,
that's
fine.
B
I
will
put
that
before
our
our
team
and
and
get
permission
for
you
to
meet.
We
are
planning
to
meet
in
february.
If
we
can.
That
sounds
great.
Thank.
D
Yeah,
so
I'm
just
wondering
about
what
are
the
rules
around
if
things
come
up
and
we
just
want
to
talk
about
it?
What
about,
if
we
just
email,
everybody
as
a
group
and
say
hey,
this
is
happening?
G
D
D
D
H
And
then
brenda
can
be
a
great
liaison
for
you
as
well
to
just
be
able
to
check
in
with
her
and
if
brenda's,
not
here,
you're
always
welcome
to
check
with
me
or,
if
she's
tied
up
in
something
else,
I'm
there
to
support
her
in
that
way
as
well,
and
so
maybe
that
maybe
that's
the
thing
that
you
can
count
on
if
you've
got
a
question,
if
it
feels
like
you
know,
maybe
this
might
not
be
a
line.
Just
give
us
a
call,
and
we
can
walk
you
through
that
case
by
case.
D
I
Well,
I
would
say
also
if
folks
have
ideas
or
comments
or
concerns.
I
And
I
might
be
good
resources
to
go
ahead
and
funnel
those
too,
and
we
can
also
funnel
those
to
brenda
or
dawa.
But
just
want
to
reiterate
that
reply.
All
on
emails.
I
I
know
that
sometimes
you
can
get
in
trouble
doing
that
with
discussions
and
just
keeping
in
mind.
If
you
know
it's
really
a
comment
directed
or
a
response
directed
to
one
person
trying
to
avoid
using
the
reply.
I
G
I
was
going
to
share
what
we
do
on
the
urban
forestry
commission.
We
will
bcc
and
we
will
not
have
discussions
on
comments
about
it
and
then,
if
we
do,
then
we
divide
ourselves
up
into
less
form.
People
have
those
discussions,
and
then
we
come
back
together
because
at
ufc
we're
very
regulated
on
what
we
can
discuss.
G
So
we
have
found
ways
that
we
can
all
communicate
without
breaking
our
the
laws
and
the
rules
that
we're
governed
by
and
we
find
that
bcc
are
breaking
this
up
into
under
forum
amount,
has
worked
very
well
and
then
we
discuss
so
if
that
makes
any
sense.
B
Yeah,
I
have
a
note
from
you,
sarah
to
willow
girl
from
the
clerk's
office.
She
said
it's
okay,
to
share
information
via
email,
but
do
do
avoid
any
back
and
forth
deliberation.
Keeping
in
mind
the
intent
of
open
meeting
laws
is
to
be
transparent
in
decision
making
process
so
yeah
once
if
you,
if
you
decide
this
some,
this
is
something
you
want
to
do.
Then
you
just
communicate
with
me
and
I'll
see
about
getting
permission.
I'll
put
it
before.
Whoever
so.
E
Okay,
I
guess
I
understand
the
meeting
every
other
month,
but
I
did
have
a
question
as
far
as
neighborhoods
or
communities
who
have
a
problem
in
a
month
in
which
we
don't
meet,
how
how
would
they
get
that
issue
addressed
to
the
the
neck?
E
B
E
B
E
Okay,
so
this,
if
the,
if
needed
being,
we
wouldn't,
we
could
meet
in
a
month
or
that's
an
off
month,
is
that
is
that
we
have
to
have
that.
H
Well,
it's
a
great
example:
pastor
hardware:
does
it
really
highlight
kind
of
the
two
areas
that
we
work
in
one
the
community
oriented
problem
solving
right?
There
is
an
issue
that
needs
to
be
addressed,
store
waters
backed
up
on
the
streets
or
something
like
that
right.
We
just
need.
We
need
you
guys
to
get
that
help
if
you're.
H
If
somebody
calls
you
to
help,
get
them
to
us
and
then
we'll
follow
through
and
then
we
can
inform
everybody
of
the
outcome,
but
I
think
what
brenda
was
alluding
to
was
sometimes
problems
need
a
policy
decision
right
right
and
that's
where
it
might
come
from
that,
so
that
you
all
can
advise
counsel
on
a
policy
decision
that
they
might
have
to
make.
So
that
is
what
we're
scheduling
for
every
two
months,
but
if
something
comes
up-
and
we
don't
know
about
it
for
some
reason-
there's
still
the
option
to
get
it
on
the
calendar.
H
C
E
H
F
Yes,
it
takes
several
weeks
to
get
on
council's
agenda,
since
we
only
have
three
more
meetings
left
in
the
next
months
when
three
of
our
board
members
are
on
and
we're
supposed
to
be
advising
council.
Can
you
put
us
on
the
agenda
for
the
june
meeting
so
that
if
we're
gonna
advise
them
of
anything,
we
can
have
this
slot
and
not
have
to
just
skip
it
like
we
did
last
time.
F
A
slot
to
address
city
council
because
we're
supposed
to
be
advising
city
council
we
haven't
had
an
annual
report.
We
haven't
been
able
to
get
on
their
agenda
for
last
year's
neighborhood
hero
because
it
takes
so
long
to
get
on
their
agenda
we've.
Only
I've
only
got
now
if
we're
only
meeting
every
other
month,
three
more
meetings
and
then
I'm
off
this
committee
so
same
thing
with
pastor
hardaway
and
mike.
H
So
joe,
if
I
could,
let
me
make
sure
I
understand,
because
I
think
there
there
might
be
those
that
are
thinking
that
you
are
advising
them
on
something
that
is
coming
up
on
the
agenda
as
opposed
to
a
in
general
advising
them,
and
I
think
what
I
hear
you
saying
is
when's
the
opportunity
for
us
to,
for
the
knack
to
just
give
some
broad
scope
advice,
as
opposed
to
you
know
knack,
is
advising
council
on
this
change
in
the
udo
right
that
that's
that's
a
specific
thing
that
one
of
many
boarding
commissions
might
be
advising
council
on
a
policy
decision
and
that's
the
route
most
of
the
time.
H
F
In
the
past
two
years,
we've
made
a
presentation
to
everything
that
we've
done
throughout
the
year.
What
our
goals
were,
what
we
achieved
and
what
we
wanted
them
to
be.
Looking
at.
That's
what
I'm
talking
about
that.
We
didn't
do
this
year
and
need
to
do
as
as
part
of
what
what
the
neighborhood
advisory
committee
is
about.
H
C
If
not,
I
will
say
this
is
my
swan
song
I
have
it
is.
It
is
always
a
privilege
to
serve
with
each
of
you.
I
will
still
be
rattling
around
and
I'm
still
very
active
on
the
board,
with
ken
and
with
hall
creek,
so
I
will
still
be
bugging
you,
but
you
are
an
honor
to
serve
babette
sharon
mike
pastor,
hart
away.
Well,
I've
known
you
a
long
time
and
I
hope
to
know
you
forever
and
ever
amen
and
brenda
the
same.
C
I
don't
know
what
I'd
do
without
all
of
you,
greta
anna,
all
of
you
I
joe
I'll,
see
you
at
can.
I
hope-
and
I
am
privileged
to
serve
with
people
who
care
about
this
community
as
deeply
as
all
of
us
do,
and
I
will
continue
to
do
that
till
I
can
no
longer
waddle
to
the
city
hall
or
wherever
I
need
to
go,
but
thank
you
so
much
for
this
privilege.
It's
been
a
pleasure
and
with
that
I
will
say
that
we
can
now
consider
an
adjournment.
F
I
have
one
more
thing:
please
I'd
like
to
I'd
like
to
thank
barbara,
but
I'd
also
like
to
thank
bill.
Lightwood
dendy,
billy,
bowie
and
pat
beck,
who
worked
with
us
this
year.
E
I
C
You
so
much
yes,
well,
we'll
stay
in
touch
folks.
You
know
where
I
am
and
what
my
email
is
like.
95
percent
for
people
in
asheville
know
what
my
email
is
and
phone
number
as
well
and
greta,
and
I
work
collections
together,
so
I'm
sure
we're
gonna
be
hanging
out
and
seeing
each
other
at
10
and
so
forth,
and
thank
you
so
much
for
your
dedication.
C
C
C
All
right,
if
this
is,
I
would
say
that
this
meeting
is
returned.
Y'all
have
a
good
evening
and
be
careful
out.
There
don't
get
sick.
We
can't
afford
to
lose
these
activists
with
faces.