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A
All
right
good
afternoon,
everyone
I'm
chair
anna
sexton,
and
I
would
like
to
welcome
you
to
the
november
29
2021
neighborhood
advisory
committee
virtual
meeting.
We
will
now
call
our
meeting
to
order.
The
committee
consists
of
nine
members
all
appointed
by
the
city
council,
with
representation
from
specific
community
sectors.
A
A
The
committee
was
established
to
advise
the
city
council
on
neighborhoods
within
the
city
of
asheville
zoning
and
planning
jurisdiction,
and
the
committee
shall
have
the
following
duties
and
powers,
one
develop
rules
and
bylaws
for
the
conduct
conduct
of
its
business,
including,
but
not
limited,
to
meeting
schedules.
Officers
voting
and
subcommittees
two
develop
a
plan
to
strengthen
neighborhood
identity
and
resilience
and
to
facilitate
communication
and
cooperation
between
asheville's,
neighborhoods
and
city
offices.
A
A
A
We
also
have
an
option
for
the
public
to
listen,
live
by
phone
by
dialing,
eight,
five,
five,
nine
two:
five:
two:
eight
zero
one
and
entering
meeting
code
9247
for
those
of
you
who
plan
to
speak
during
our
live
public
comment.
Today,
you
will
need
to
hit
star
3
to
be
put
into
speaker
queue
and
for
everyone
out
there
with
us
today
welcome.
A
I
will
now
go
through
and
introduce
all
committee
members
and
city
staff
who
are
participating
virtually
for
our
committee
members.
Please
make
sure
to
mute
your
microphone
if
you
are
not
speaking
when
you
have
a
question
or
would
like
to
speak,
click
the
raise
the
hand
and
then
I'll
ask
you
to
unmute
your
microphone
and
committee
members.
As
I
call
your
name,
please
say
a
quick
hello
again:
I'm
anna
sexton,
I'm
the
chair
of
the
neighborhood
advisory
committee
and
I
represent
zip
codes,
28806
and
2872
bob
mays.
H
I'm
sorry,
I'm
sorry,
I'm
late
and
I'm
sharon
sumrall
and
I
live
on
boatcatcher
and
I
represent
28805.
A
Thanks
sharon,
we
also
have
mike
wasmer,
who
is
an
at-large
member
who
is
not
in
attendance
this
evening
and
elizabeth
likes
worley,
who
is
also
an
at-large
member
who
is
not
able
to
attend
our
meeting
this
evening.
A
A
A
Hello,
everyone
leonard
jones,
who
is
also
a
community
engagement
specialist
with
buncombe
county.
A
And
shannon
capizzali,
who
is
a
planner
with
buncombe
county
hello,
thanks
y'all
for
attending
and
to
help
folks
who
are
following
along
with
us
in
the
audience
I'll
state
each
section
of
the
agenda
aloud
and
just
a
reminder
to
committee
members
to
click
the
raise
your
hand
icon
to
be
recognized
to
speak
and
to
state
your
name
each
time
you
comment
so
to
start
off
this
evening
we
will
go
through
approval
of
minutes
for
the
october
25th
2021
neighborhood
advisory
committee
meeting.
I
assume
everyone
has
well.
A
C
Thanks
anna,
this
is
greta
I
just
before
we
approve
them.
I
think,
there's
a
small
edit.
It
says
that
the
october
meeting
october's
knack
draft
minutes
were
approved,
but
I
think
that
should
be
september.
Is
that
right.
A
Good
deal,
I
will
go
ahead
and
entertain
a
motion
for
a
doc
or
approval
of
our
october
25th
meeting
minutes.
F
A
Well,
peter's
made
the
motion
for
approval
of
our
mid
meeting
minutes.
Do
I
have
a
second.
B
A
B
We
need
to
I'm
wondering:
do
we
need
to
go
back
and
say
in
the
motion
that
we'll
approve
it
with
the
correction
from
the
october,
the
date
of
october,
which
should
be
september,
if
that
should
be
put
into
the
motion
that
we're
going
to
approve
it
with
the
correction
of
that
the
month
being
oh
wrong,
I'm
guessing.
A
Okay,
great
all
right,
we'll
go
through
roll
call.
Now,
anna
sexton
myself,
I
bob
at
mays.
B
F
A
A
We
have
updates
regarding
our
liaison
to
the
multimodal
transportation
commission
and
then
we'll
also
go
through
agenda
items
for
our
potential
agenda
items
for
upcoming
meetings.
We
do
have
one
small
change.
I
want
to
acknowledge
under
our
new
business
item
7
a
and
7
b,
due
to
some
scheduling,
challenges
and
changes,
we
need
to
swap
items
7a
and
7b,
so
we'll
we'll
receive
a
presentation
from
the
buncombe
county
staff
on
the
comprehensive
plan,
first
followed
by
the
lead
and
copper
rule,
revisions
from
asheville
city
staff.
A
And
so
moving
on
to
item
four
for
public
comment,
no
comments
were
submitted
either
by
voicemail
or
email
for
today's
meeting
item
number
five
is
staff
activities
and
updates
and
I'll
turn
it
over
to
jeremy
to
go
over
those.
G
Hello,
everyone,
this
is
jeremy,
let
two
quick
updates
for
the
group.
The
first
one
is
our
neighborhood.
Grants
ended
on
november
the
1st,
so
all
those
applications
were
received.
I've
talked
to
all
of
our
applicants
to
ask
them
clarifying
questions
about
the
grants.
Get
any
additional
information,
give
them
an
opportunity
to
submit
any
additional
documents.
G
I
submit
that
information
to
our
panelists,
which
are
city
staff
members
and
they
have
finalized
their
reviews
of
each
application.
So
I
should
be
making
an
announcement
later
this
week
on
who
those
applicants
are
once
those
decisions
have
been
made
I'll
send
neck
and
email,
letting
you
know
a
little
bit
more
information
about
the
applicants,
but
we
got
got
about
21
applications
in
some
really
good
ideas.
G
G
Next
is
our
volunteer
of
the
year,
so
I've
submitted
some
information
to
our
net
working
group
on
volunteer
of
the
year.
We're
going
to
finalize
those
details,
we've
made
some
revisions
to
the
volunteer
of
the
year
form
and
just
how
we
communicate
that,
and
so
hopefully,
by
december,
the
1st
we'll
have
that
final
feedback,
and
I
can
open
up
our
volunteer
of
the
year
application
so
I'll
put
that
on
next
door,
I'll,
look
at
doing
a
press
release
and
getting
that
information
out
there.
G
So
we
can
get
some
applications
turned
in
by
the
month
of
december
and
we
can
announce
someone
in
january
so
have
that
working
group
we'll
continue
working
and
trying
to
get
that
process
finalized
and
at
our
next
meeting
we
should
have
an
update
for
you
and
that's
all
the
updates
and
activities
that
I
have
for
everyone
right
now.
A
Thank
you,
jeremy.
That
was
a
very
quick
update,
so
we'll
move
on
into
item
number
six
with
which
is
unfinished
business.
A
A
Sharon
sumrall
stepped
in
as
our
primary
representative
and
I
stepped
in
sort
of
a
support
or
secondary
rep,
and
it's
been
a
very
interesting
learning
process
along
the
way
and
have
really
valued
sharon's
input
and
and
knowledge
on
the
just
the
whole
context
of
the
whole
process.
A
We
are
now
at
a
point
where
you
know
again:
city
staff
has
these
amendments
that
they've
developed
with
the
assistance
of
the
task
force
and
as
knack,
we
have
an
opportunity
to
just
provide
input
to
planning
a
zoning
which
is
really
the
first
hurdle
or
the
first
entity
or
organization
to
either
move
along
the
proposed
amendments
to
city
council
or
to
say
that
they
are
not
in
support
of
those
amendments.
So
it's
an
important.
A
It's
definitely
an
important
role
for
knack
to
play
and
I
really
appreciate
city
staff
allowing
us
to
step
into
that
role.
What
has
happened
is
in
conversation
with
sharon,
have
developed
a
position
statement
for
knack,
and
that
was
sent
to
you
all
this
afternoon,
so
a
little
bit
late,
but
hopefully,
you've
had
a
chance
to
read
through
it,
and
this
position
statement
acknowledges
that
there
has
been
some
positive
movement
with
some
of
the
proposed
amendments
to
the
existing
open
space
ordinance.
A
It
also
acknowledges
some
concerns
expressed
and
shared
by
nac
members
regarding
tree
canopy
loss
regarding
how
affordable
housing
and
storm
water
management
are
incentivized
through,
maybe
some
trade-offs
with
reductions
in
open
space.
It
also
acknowledges
some
concerns
around
buffer
requirements
and
what
that
might
mean
for
neighborhoods
in
terms
of
just
screening
and
privacy
as
development
continues.
A
A
A
couple
of
things
to
keep
in
mind
are
that
city
staff
I'll
get
to
you
in
just
a
second.
I
appreciate
it:
city
staff
are
presenting
these
amendments
to
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
at
pnz's
next
meeting,
which
is
this
upcoming
wednesday,
and
so
this
is
something
that
I
think
we
want
to
come
to
a
majority
on
whatever
direction
that
that
takes
at
this
meeting,
and
we
don't
want
to
spend
a
ton
of
time
on
it
because
we
have
a
pretty
full
agenda.
A
But
I
do
think
that
we
need
to
acknowledge
the
opportunity
that
knack
has
been
given
to
provide
feedback
and
guidance
on
these
amendments
so
that
we
have
something
to
carry
forward
to
pnz,
whether
that's
for
or
against,
and
with
that
I
will
acknowledge
you.
Sharon.
H
Thank
you.
So
I
want
to
say
it
was
been
a
pleasure
working
with
anna
on
this,
because
I
come
from
a
a
different
point
of
view
on
open
space.
I
was
part
of
the
original
committee
and
I
pretty
much
on
urban
forestry
commission
and
I
pretty
much
battled
against
this
for
two
years.
H
I
want
to
clarify
that
started
working
with
a
subcommittee
from
urban
forestry
commission.
They
did
not
like
the
demands
that
we
were
making
and
so
all
of
a
sudden,
unceremoniously
discussion
ended
and
all
of
a
sudden
we've
got
other
members
of
the
community
involved
which
we
were
fine
with,
but
we
were
not
notified
that
there
was
going
to
be
any
change
in
discussion
on
it,
which
is
fine
because
working
with
the
city
you
roll
with
the
punches.
H
I
voted
for
certain
things
on
this
amendment
in
order
to
try
to
get
the
other
development
side
that
I'm
calling
the
development
side
to
work
more
with
the
neighborhoods
and
the
green
infrastructure,
and
what
I
found
is
that
to
us
sit
around
the
green
infrastructure
and
I'll
just
talk
about
myself.
There's
other
committees,
other
people
in
other
committees
that
felt
the
same
way.
Development
overruled
us
development's
got
a
big
voice
in
this
community
at
rightly
or
wrongly.
Depending
on
what
size
you
sit
on.
H
The
development
as
anna
and
I
have
discussed
ad
nauseam
is
there's
a
need
for
affordable
housing
and
city
is
wanting
to
do
infill
and
we're
all
in
agreement
that
we
need
more
housing.
As
what
does
infill
look
like,
and
there
is
a
huge
amount
of
reduction
in
this
open
space
that
is
required
to
equate
what
they're
giving
the
developers.
H
So
they
can
incentivize
development,
but
it
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
that
development
will
happen
with
this
reduction
of
open
space,
also
they're
using
storm
water
incentivization
for
credits
on
open
space
which
we're
all
for
because
we
all
live
here.
We
know
we
need
storm
water
help,
but
considering
how
massively
reduced
that
this
open
space
is
going
to
do
for
everything
it
needs
more
time.
It
needs
more
discussion
and
it
needs
more
work
in
my
opinion.
H
So
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
my
huge
development
issues,
but
we've
got
increasing
impervious
we're
we're
double
counting
buffers
and
it's
it's
it's
a
very
much
in
the
weeds
and
I
like
anna's
ability
to
go
along
and
work
with
staff.
H
I
admire
her
for
that
because
I'm
not
necessarily
a
person
that
goes
along
to
get
along
and
anna
is
wonderful
at
it,
and
we've
had
a
lot
of
conversations
on
it,
but
I
am
entirely
against
this
amendment
for
many
reasons,
and
I
that's
the
short
version
so
you're
lucky,
you
got
the
short
version
and
thank
you
anna
very
much.
Thank
you.
A
Sharon,
it's
been
a
pleasure
working
with
you
as
well,
and
I
appreciate
our
ability
to
talk
through
things,
even
if
we
may
not
agree
entirely
on
each
of
those
things
so
about
that.
Please
go
ahead.
B
Yeah
sharon.
I
totally
agree
with
you.
I
live
in
a
community
where
I
live
in
shiloh
and
we
have
developers
that
are
coming
into
our
area.
Getting
property
open
spaces
property
for
little
of
nothing
and
they
consider
it
affordable
housing
and
it
is.
It
is
causing
an
uprise
and
taxes
for
our
seniors
and
I
think
that
developers
they
won't,
they
don't
go
into.
B
They
don't
go
into
places
like
biltmore
forest.
They
cannot
get
into
those
places
to
to
build
so
there's
no
affordable
housing
for
them,
but
they're
coming
in
they're
coming
into
our
community
and
they
will
start
to
infiltrate
into
any
any
community.
They
can
because
that's
what
they're
about
and
they're
saying,
affordable,
but
it's
not
really
affordable
for
asheville.
B
B
My
community
strong-willed
have
lived
here
know
the
community
know
the
people
and
unless
you
come
into
these
communities
and
talk
because
the
developers
have
come
in
and
talked
to
us
really
bad
they've
said
some
very
really
disrespectful
things
only
because
they
know
they
can
get
our
land
cheaper
than
they
could
somewhere
else.
So
I
that's
that's
my
take
on
that.
I'm
gonna
leave
it
alone.
Do
like
you
share,
that's
my
short
version.
A
Thanks
bobbitt
greta,
please
go
ahead.
C
I
agree
with
what
you
all
are
saying.
I
also
wanted
to
add.
I
made
some
notes
after
reviewing
the
materials
again,
and
one
thing
that
stood
out
to
me
is
that
I
don't
want
asheville
to
lower
its
standards
to
be
on
par
with
what
all
the
other
cities
in
the
state
are
doing,
which
seems
like
that's
what's
being
proposed.
C
I
think
asheville
should
be
a
leader
in
the
green
space
community
movement,
whatever
you
want
to
call
it
so
lowering
things
to
be
on
par
with
everyone
else
makes
me
uncomfortable,
and
I
also
think
that
lowering
lowering
from
50
down
to
15
is
a
a
large
jump,
and
I
think
it's
too
far-
and
I
don't
know
if
I
fully
understand
this,
but
it
seems
to
me
that
if
open
space
is
going
to
be
reduced
by
that,
much
that
all
of
the
open
space
that's
left
needs
to
be
impervious.
C
C
You
know
stand
as
a
leader
in
this
space
or
something
like
that,
but,
generally
speaking,
I'm
glad
that
you
all
came
up
with
a
statement,
because
I
was
wondering
how
we
were
going
to
go
about
that
tonight.
D
Think
that
the
only
thing
that
I
would
like
to
see
perhaps
stated
a
little
bit
more
assertively
is
that
the
statement
is
is
clear.
Yet
it's
a
little
bit
ambiguous
or
a
little
bit
kind
of
hedging
its
position,
its
assertiveness,
I
mean
if
we
can
look
at
the
passion
with
which
babette
and
sharon
have
already
articulated.
There
is
a
clear
stance
and
we
know
what
the
implications
are.
D
We
can't
see
the
long-term
implications
if
the
trend
continues,
we're
going
to
see
trends
of
smaller
green
spaces
allowed
and
therefore
less
canopies
and
less
storm
water
catching
basements.
So
the
implications
are
pretty
clear
to
me.
So
I
don't
understand
why
we're
hedging
against
saying
what
they
are.
A
A
Vehicles
to
some
of
the
these
negative
consequences,
more
so
than
the
open
space
ordinances,
and
I
have
dipped
my
toes
into
code
writing.
It
is
not
fun,
it
is
incredibly
tedious
and
it
is
something
that
yes,
we
can
have
an
idea
of
what
these
implications
are.
A
At
the
end
of
the
day,
no
one
has
a
crystal
ball
and
a
lot
of
the
times.
These
amendments
aren't
really
felt
until
5,
10
15
years
from
now
after
a
lot
of
new
development,
or
a
lot
of
time
has
lapsed
for
some
of
these
regulations
to
go
into
effect.
A
I
am
cautiously
optimistic,
although
I
recognize
that
I
may
be
in
the
minority
in
saying
this,
that
the
balance.
A
So
I
know
that
we
are
on
a
time
crunch
and
I
want
to
let
everyone
else
have
a
say
so:
go
ahead.
Sharon.
H
Real
quick:
there
is
an
open
space
amendment
in
progress,
now
that's
being
used
and
has
been
used
that
I
deal
with
on
technical
review
committee
and
it
is
less
onerous
as
this.
I
agree.
There
needs
to
be
changes.
We
have
to
be
a
growing
community,
but
this
was
pushed
through
without
proper
vetting
through
the
community
and
just
because
they
pushed
it
through
doesn't
mean
that
we
have
to
take
it
as
it
is.
H
We
need
to
do
something,
but
we
don't
need
to
rush
this.
If
I
hadn't
raised
my
hand
and
put
my
foot
down
on
this,
this
would
have
gone
through
two
years
ago.
So
I
am
saying
that
this
is
not
a
good
amendment
to
go
through
as
it
is
now.
It's
got
some
good
things
on
stormwater
in
it
and
it's
confusing,
but
it
has
not
been
taken
to
the
neighborhoods
and
given
to
all
of
us
like
even
urban
centers
they
did.
This
is
as
important
as
urban
centers
and
they
vetted
urban
centers.
H
So
I'm
saying
that
we
don't
have
to
agree
with
this,
but
we
can
agree
that
changes
do
need
to
be
made
and
and
to
do
it
in
a
more
methodical
manner
as
a
city,
because
we
are
growing
and
we're
growing
quickly
and
five
years
from
now.
Look
at
what
I've
seen
the
last
five
years,
we're
going
to
be
in
a
major
mess
in
five
years
and
what
we've
got
now
is
almost
doable
all
right.
So
that's
my
my
opinion
on
that
and
thank
you.
Thanks
jp.
D
A
Thanks
jp,
this
is
anna.
What
I
would
like
to
do
now
in
the
in
considering
the
remaining
time
for
our
meeting
this
evening
is
to
either
is
to
really
open
up
the
floor,
to
you
all
to
either
entertain
a
motion
for
the
approval
of
the
drafted
statement
or
to
entertain
a
motion
for
some
sort
of
alternative.
However,
the
person
who
comes
forward
wants
to
freeze
that
alternative.
C
Thanks
anna,
I
just
typed
up
two
sentences
that
I
want
to
propose.
We
add
to
the
statement
that
you've,
all
written,
which
are
knack,
wants
to
see
asheville
as
a
leader
in
open
space
and
is
disheartened
disheartened
to
see
the
proposal
to
lower
minimums
to
the
state
status
quo,
while
lowering
requirements
from
50
percent
may
be
seen
as
necessary.
We
recommend
not
going
as
low
as
5
to
15
percent.
E
H
I
suppose,
if
I
have
to
compromise-
which
I
can
occasionally
do,
I
would
agree,
but
I
I
would
propose
that
we
do
not
support
the
open
space
amendment
as
is
currently
presented
before
planning
and
zoning,
and
letting
go
at
that
because
the
answer
jp,
we
did
pull
out
from
other
cities,
but
unfortunately
other
cities
have
other
city
requirements,
so
it
was
very
hard
to
try
to
adapt
other
cities
into
our
methodology
of
how
asheville
does
business
just
to
let
you
know
this
just
wasn't
made
up
out
of
nowhere.
H
We
called
out
different
stuff
from
different
places,
but
I'm
I
would
propose
an
amendment
that
we
oppose
open
space
as
its
amendment,
as
is
currently
stated,
and
if
greta
or
somebody
can
come
up
with
until
another.
I
don't
know
if
we
need
to
say
more
than
that
until
more
until
more
involvement
within
the
neighborhoods
is
asked
of
us
or
asked
of
the
neighborhoods,
I
mean,
I
think
the
neighborhoods
really
needed
to
be
involved
in
this
other
than
just
us
on
knack.
H
Yeah,
that
would
be
good
if
you
could
do
that
yeah
if
you
could,
but
I
mean
that's
what
I
propose
because
to
me
the
I
like
how
you
it
got
drafted
out,
but
it's
it
sounds
too
positive.
Like
it's
a
workable.
H
Oh,
it's
a
work
on
a
workable
amendment
and
for
me
it's
not
a
workable
amendment.
It
could
be.
B
Let
me
just
say
I
would
say
that
I
like
greta's
points,
but
I
was
also
like
to
say
that
we
would
need
to
state
that,
as
we
have
reviewed
the
information
for
the
amendment
for
the
open
spaces-
and
we
have
fully
discussed
this-
that
at
this
present
time,
we
are
not
in
agreement
with
what
has
been
stated
with
the
amendment
and
then
greta's
statement
can
come
behind
that,
but
it
would
show
that
we
have.
We
have
discussed
it,
we
have
concerns
and
that,
then
that
means
that
they
would
bring
it
back
to
us.
B
What
are
your
concerns,
and
then
that
would
be
when
we
could
bring
in
okay.
That
would
take
them
time
to
process.
Then
they
would
bring
in
well.
What
do
you
need?
Well,
we
need
more
community,
you
know
involvement,
we
need
to
get.
We
need
people
to
be
involved
and
to
know
what
what
the
planning
zoning
and
the
city
is
proposing
with
these
open
spaces.
But
I
think
that
if
we
would,
we
have
to
always
state
ourselves
as
we
have
reviewed
this,
we
have
agreed
on
this.
B
A
Is
that
jeremy
go
ahead.
A
C
Yes,
I
think
so
I
was
trying
to
like
type
what
you
were
saying
about
that.
So
I
suppose
tell
me
if
this
is
a
good
summary
of
what
we
might
say.
Nac
members
have
discussed
the
city's
open
space
amendment
and
we
have
not
come
to
an
agreement
on
what
the
city
is.
Proposing.
Therefore,
knack
rejects
this
amendment,
as
is
for
the
following
reasons:
one,
the
city
needs
to
solicit
input
from
members
of
neighborhoods
through
educational
and
listening
sessions.
C
Two
knack
wants
to
see
asheville
as
a
leader
in
open
space.
What
I
just
said,
blah
blah
blah
we're
disheartened
about
it
and
don't
lower
the
minimum.
So
much
and
three
I
was
just
writing
up
knack-
is
concerned
about
I'm
trying
to
summarize
these
last
four
points
here.
So
something
like
mac
is
concerned
about
how
the
impacts
of
the
proposed
amendments
relate
to
affordable
housing,
stormwater
management,
tree
canopy
loss
and
buffers.
A
All
right,
so
we've
got
bobette
who
has
made
a
motion
to
include
additional
language.
What
greta
just
stated
and
sharon
go
ahead,
have
a
second
okay
great.
We
will
go
ahead
now
or
any
further
discussion
before
we
take
a
vote,
got.
A
B
D
F
A
Sharon
sumrall
hi
and
anna
sexton
myself.
I
will
also
go
ahead
and
say
I,
along
with
those
changes
so
with
that
the
motion
carries
and
want
to
just
say,
thank
you
to
you
all
for
your
contribution
at
this
meeting,
even
though
we
are
getting
pressed
for
time
and
to
sharon,
it's
certainly
been
a
learning
experience
for
me
and
a
very
challenging
one,
but
I'm
looking
forward
to
moving
ahead
with
that.
A
We
will
move
on
to
item
number
seven
new
business,
and
this
evening
we
will
kick
it
off
with
a
presentation
on
the
buncombe
county,
comprehensive
plan
from
zakiyah
bell,
rogers
leonard
jones
and
shannon
capazzoli,
so
I'll
turn
it
over
to
you
all.
Thank
you.
I
Thanks
everyone
for
allowing
us
to
have
this
presentation
at
your
meeting
tonight,
I'm
part
of
bunking
county,
the
county's
about
to
start
a
two-year
plan
of
drafting
a
comprehensive
plan
for
bunking
county
for
the
next
20
years,
and
one
of
our
goals
is
to
be
very
intentional
in
our
engagement
with
the
community
and
even
though
we
know
this
comprehensive
plan
is
for
buncombe
county
as
a
whole.
I
So
when
you
think
about
a
20-year
plan,
you
may
find
yourself
out
in
the
county
in
the
next
few
years
or
so,
and
so
this
comprehensive
plan
is
really
a
chance
to
hear
from
residents
in
buckingham
county
all
residents,
and
we
especially
want
to
target
our
under-representative
communities
our
rural
areas,
as
well
as
people
of
color
and
latinx
communities
in
all
residents
of
welcome
county,
because
the
commissioners
have
kind
of
tasked
us
with
the
issue
of
trying
to
reach
all
corners
of
buffalo
county
in
this
public
engagement.
I
So
right
now
we
find
ourselves
in
the
awareness
phase
to
let
to
let
community
and
residents
know
that
this
is
coming,
especially
in
2022
and
so
tonight
we
have
shannon
from
my
planning
department
at
a
go,
a
little
more
deep,
go
into
detail
and
about
the
comprehensive
plan,
and
so
I'm
about
to
pass
it
off
to
shannon,
if
you're
ready
to
present
your
screen
and
again,
thank
y'all
for
this
opportunity
to
share
the
comprehensive
plan
process
with
you.
J
Thanks
and
I
have
not-
I
haven't
used
google
me
before
I'm
going
to
try
to
share
my
powerpoint
presentation.
So
tell
me
if
this
goes
to
the
right
place
or
not.
J
Totally
different
format,
but
anyways,
so
I'm
shannon
capazzoli
and
I'm
a
planner
with
buncombe,
county
and
leonard.
Thank
you
for
that
introduction,
and
I
just
want
to
kind
of
add
too
that
we
all
know
that
there
is
so
much
kind
of
crossing
back
and
forth
between
borders
and
that
what
happens
in
the
city
affects
the
county.
What
happens
in
buncombe
county?
J
Definitely
spills
over
into
the
city.
So
sometimes
we
have
kind
of
those
boundaries,
but
what
what
people
actually
do
just
crosses
within
those
as
if
they
were
one
place.
So
there's
a
lot
of
overlap
between
kind
of
our
needs
and
the
issues
and
the
wants
of
our
communities,
even
though
we
you
know
sometimes
in
local
government.
We
tend
to
look
at
kind
of
over
there
versus
over
here.
J
So
this
is
going
to
be
a
really
great
opportunity
for
us
to
think
about
how
the
cities
and
the
other
municipalities,
like
black
mountain,
how
they're
all
connected
with
the
greater
county
area
and
even
how
we're
connected
with
our
region,
because
we
do
have
a
lot
of
regional
ties
and
those
things
do
impact
what
happens
in
the
city
or
in
the
county.
So
I've
got
a
really
quick
presentation.
It's
just
a
couple
slides.
J
How
many
of
you
all
know
what
a
comprehensive
plan
is.
I
know
you
know
the
city
did
one
not
that
long
ago.
Are
you
all
really
super
familiar
with
what
they
entail?
Okay,
we've
got
a.
We
have
a
video
that
I
could
maybe
just
drop
a
link
to
it
in
the
chat
here.
If
you
guys
are
able
to
get
that
and
feel
free
to
share
it
or
you
know,
watch
it
later.
It's
a
a
good
just
couple
minute,
introduction
to
comp
planning
and
what
our
goals
are.
I'm
trying
to
figure
out.
J
Let's
see,
how
do
I
advance
there?
We
go
okay.
So
that's
that's
the
link
too,
for
anyone
from
the
public.
That's
watching.
If
you
can't
see
the
chat
room,
but
as
we
look
into
the
next
20
years
for
buncombe
county,
what
we
are
trying
to
figure
out
like
I
had
mentioned,
what
are
the
community
issues?
What
are
needs
and
wants?
What
are
the
communities
ideas
that
we
need
to
be
honed
in
on
over
a
longer
term?
So,
like
recently,
we've
done
a
strategic
plan.
I'm
sure
a
lot
of
you
have
heard
about
that.
J
J
We've
had
a
land
use
plan,
but
we
haven't
done
a
true
comprehensive
plan,
so
this
is
going
to
be
really
new
for
us
and
kind
of
a
big
process
that,
which
is
why
one
of
our
goals
is
to
reach
all
residents
of
the
county
and
to
do
that.
It's
kind
of
a
three-step
process
so
we're
going
to
first
work
with
the
community
to
identify
kind
of
what
all
those
issues
are.
J
Then
we're
going
to
work
on
developing
the
plan,
there's
going
to
be
kind
of
a
feedback
loop
where
we're
bringing
it
back
to
residents
and
asking
hey.
This
is
what
you
said.
This
is
what
we
heard
here
are
some
vision.
Statements
here
are
some
strategies
and
some
goals
for
what
we
think
we
can
do
to
meet
some
of
those
needs
and
address.
Some
of
the
challenges
is:
does
that
sound
right
and
then
once
we
can
get
to
kind
of
a
community
agreement
on
that?
J
That's
when
we
can
adopt
that
plan
and
then
the
real
hard
work
begins,
which
is
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
implement
different
priorities
and
budgets,
make
regulatory
changes
and
do
even
future
planning
to
to
bring
to
life.
What
we've
said
we
want
to
do
in
the
future.
So
that's
kind
of
how
the
process
works
and
you'll
have
to
excuse
me
for
one
moment,
I'm
working
from
home
tonight
and
this
child
has
escaped
from
his
father.
E
J
Let's
see
so,
one
of
the
things
that
we
like
to
talk
about
is
what
the
actual
kind
of
deliverables
of
the
plan
are
like.
What
can
this
plan
do
and
there's
a
lot
of
different
ways
that
a
comprehensive
plan
to
create
change
in
a
community
so
we're
talking
about
being
being
a
guiding
document
for
future
land
use
plans,
the
creation
of
our
street,
our
future
strategic
plans
is
going
to
come
out
of
this
document
and
then
creating
some
small
area
plans
which
we've
never
really
had
in
the
county.
J
You
guys
are
really
used
to
that
more
in
the
city,
where
you
have
kind
of
really
defined
neighborhoods,
but
creating
more
defined
communities
in
the
county
is
something
that
one
of
the
goals
that
we
have
creating
new
policy
or
priorities
out
of
this
helping
us
with
budget
decisions.
J
Those
are
all
things
that
the
plan
can
help
with
even
qualifying
for
different
types
of
federal
and
state
funding.
So
you
know
there's
just
a
lot
of
stuff
that
will
come
out
of
this
and
that's
really
kind
of
the
meat
and
potatoes
of
why
we
create
that
plan
is
to
give
us
that
document.
J
As
far
as
who
is
involved,
like
I
said,
our
goal
is
to
reach
everybody
in
the
county
and
we
have
a
really
strong
desire
to
include
youth
in
that.
So
not
you
know
not
just
talking
to
adults,
but
talking
to
the
younger
generations
who
are
really
going
to
see
more
of
the
impact
of
this
over
the
next
five
and
10
and
20
years.
J
J
One
thing
we
don't
have
on
here:
we
there
is
a
steering
committee
that
has
already
been
selected
and
it's
about
23
residents
of
the
county
who
applied
and
were
selected
by
the
commissioners
to
represent
different
component
areas,
so
people
that
have
either
personal
or
professional
experience
in
areas
like
housing
or
transportation,
or
things
like
that.
So
they're
gonna
be
working
really
hard
to
act
as
like
a
sounding
board
for
our
residents.
J
We'll
also
have
a
technical
advisory
committee
that
will
be
providing
data
and
kind
of
expertise
in
different
areas
to
both
residents
and
to
departments
and
staff,
and
then
there's
the
planning
department,
which
is
kind
of
helping
keep
all
those
wheels
moving
as
we
go.
So
at
the
moment
we
are
just
entering
phase
two,
which
is
establishing
the
vision
and
the
goals
we've
launched.
J
J
But
we're
going
to
be
moving
into
phase
2
next
month
and
that's
really
our
first
community
engagement
window.
So
we
will
start
going
out
to
more
events.
We're
going
to
start
going
out
into
the
community
and
trying
to
you
know,
meet
people
where
they
are
at
events
that
we
host,
but
also
at
places
where
people
just
naturally
congregate
at
churches,
at
their
kids
schools
and
at
other
places
where
we
can
kind
of
just
take
a
moment
of
their
time
and
not
have
to
pull
them
into
kind
of
a
more
formal
meeting
like
that
and
then.
J
J
It's
really
kind
of
a
quick,
sound
bite
survey,
we're
just
asking
people
what's
a
word
or
two
that
is
kind
of
a
description
of
your
vision
for
the
county
in
the
future,
and
people
can
just
put
in
their
word
and
we're
going
to
create
kind
of
a
neat
visual
that
we
can
refer
back
to
as
we're
starting
to
form
that
that
community-wide
vision,
we've
also
got
some
kids
postcards
online,
where
kids
can
provide
a
drawing
or
write
some
information
about
what
they
think
is
important.
J
We've
been
posting
that
on
our
flickr
gallery
on
the
website,
so
people
can
kind
of
share
those
images
and
see
what
kids
are
saying
is
important
to
them.
We
can
also,
at
this
point,
come
to
any
community
events
that
you
know
are
going
on.
If
you
want
to
shoot
us
an
email
and
say
hey,
can
you
guys
come
out
and
hand
out
information
or
answer
questions
or
talk
to
people
at
my
event
or
my
church
gathering
or
something
like
that?
J
J
So
that's
right
now
and
then,
starting
next
month,
we
as
we
go
into
our
community
engagement
phase.
That's
when
we'll
start
rolling
out
kind
of
the
big
surveys,
the
the
the
surveys
that
are
going
to
get
into
more
detail
about
what
people
think
are
priorities
where
they
think
that
we
need
to
be
focusing
and
how
they
think
that
we
should
be
addressing
some
of
the
big
issues,
we'll
be
going
out
to
more
meetings,
and
we
can
actually
offer
some
activities
to
groups
rather
than
just
giving
out
information.
J
If
you
have
events
or
wanted
to
invite
us,
we
could
come
out
and
do
some
planning
activities,
charette
style
activities
with
your
group
also
going
to
be
rolling
out
student
activity
kits
so
that
elementary
school
middle
school
and
high
school
teachers
kind
of
like
a
meeting
in
a
box
where
they're
going
to
have
some
really
simple
instructions
that
they
can
do
with
their
class
and
be
able
to
get
feedback
from
all
of
their
students
that
we
can
feed
right
into
our
surveys
and
use
that
information
from
them.
So
that's
that's
what
we
have
going
on.
J
I
don't
know
if
anybody
has
questions,
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
of
those.
H
J
The
newsletters
we
have
direct
links
to
those
surveys
in
the
newsletter
and
the
goal
will
be
that,
while
those
new,
while
those
surveys
are
up
we'll,
continue
to
have
a
link
in
every
newsletter
until
those
surveys
close
so
that,
if
you
missed
la
you
know,
last
week
we
began
advertising.
If
you
missed
last
week,
we're
still
going
to
have
just
a
little
blurb
about
it
in
all
the
upcoming
ones
too,
so
that
anyone
who's
added
later
will
still
see
that.
E
Thank
you,
anna,
yes,
shannon
when
you're
going
out
into
the
neighborhoods,
is
it
possible
to
let
us
know
which
neighborhood
you're
planning
on
going
to?
So
we
can
also
go
with
you
and
answer
any
questions
that
the
people
might
have.
J
So
we
are,
we
have
been
working
on
a
mapping
activity
where
we're
trying
to
identify
kind
of
what
the
neighborhoods
are
throughout
the
county,
which
ones
really
need
to
be
targeted
because
they
have
not
in
the
past
been
engaged,
or
you
know,
maybe
it's
a
neighborhood
where
people
have
a
harder
time
getting
out
to
a
more
formal
meeting
downtown
or
something
like
that.
I
Well,
I
think
one
of
the
things
if
you
have
any
suggestions
or
recommendations
for
us,
if
you
could,
I
can
give
jeremy
my
contact
information
to
share
with
this
group
as
well.
But
if
you
have
a
particular
neighborhood
that
you
would
like
us
to
go
in,
just
like
shannon
was
saying
we're
working
on
a
mapping
exercise.
So
if
you
can
give
us
some
recommendations,
we'll
add
that
to
the
mapping
schedule
and
let
you.
H
A
This
is
anna,
just
wanted
to
say
thanks
y'all,
for
coming
to
present
to
us
tonight
and
also
sitting
through
our
open
space
discussion,
while
waiting
to
present
here,
but
just
want
to
also
peggy
back
on
what
you
all
have
said
on
how
important
it
is
to
get
as
much
just
sort
of
comprehensive
response
and
input
from
county
residents
as
much
as
possible
and
us
living
in
the
city
of
asheville.
A
I'm
seeing
ourselves
as
county
residents
too,
and
seeing
how
some
of
the
impacts
on
sort
of
the
sort
of
the
fringes
of
city
limits.
Those
are
county
things
that
also
really
impact
us
too,
so
considering
how
to
get
involved
as
much
as
possible,
so
that
we
can
provide
good
input
for
plane
development
thanks,
y'all
really
appreciate
it.
Thank.
K
D
K
K
And
in
december
of
2020,
the
midden
copper
rule
revisions,
so
we
just
want
to
let
y'all
know
how
it'll
affect
customers
and
I'm
also
hoping
on
how
to
get
feedback
on
how
to
reach
customers,
because
we
are
going
to
have
to
do
some
community
outreach
as
well.
So
first,
I'm
just
going
to
go
over
the
history
of
the
lead
and
copper
rule
just
to
give
you
some
background
information,
our
lead
and
copper
action,
levels,
blood
and
capital
revisions.
K
What
those
new
ones
entail
for
us,
our
response
and
responsibilities
with
these
new
revisions
and
any
potential
responsibility
for
water
customers.
K
So
the
first
laden
copper
was
passed
back
in
1991
and
basically,
what
it
entailed
was
collecting
samples
and
customer
homes
to
ensure
that
the
lead
and
copper
levels
did
not
exceed
action
levels
that
were
set
by
the
epa-
and
we
also
at
that
time
began
treating
the
drinking
water
to
reduce
corrosion
in
the
service
lines
in
the
and
in
household
plumbing,
and
the
city
has
always
met
these
requirements
of
the
rules.
We've
always
treated
water
as
we're
supposed
to
so.
G
Hey
brenda,
give
us
I'm
sorry.
Some
of
some
of
our
members
are
not
viewing
the
presentation
so
give
give
us
one.
It
was
once
oh.
A
G
C
K
K
No,
no
problem
just
happy
to
be
patient
and
if
I'm
talking
too
fast
or
if
y'all
have
any
questions
feel
free
to
ask,
while
I'm
doing
it
so
the
health
effects
of
lead
lead
can
cause
damage
to
the
brain
and
kidneys
in
adults
and
in
children
under
seven
it
can
slow
development
and
potentially
cause
learning
and
behavioral
problems.
K
Oops
so
and,
like
I
said
in
december
of
2020,
they
passed
epa
passed
the
new
lead
and
copper
rule
revisions.
K
The
main
focus
areas
are
different
sampling
locations
and
protocols
to
find
more
sources
of
lead
in
drinking
water,
so
we'll
basically
be
reaching
out
to
a
whole
different
pool
of
homes
that
we'll
test
from
we'll
be
establishing
it
we'll
establish
a
trigger
level
to
ensure
earlier
mitigation,
so,
instead
of
waiting
until
so,
basically,
what
we're
doing
now
is
we
test
we're
on
reduced
monitoring
and
we
test
50
homes
every
three
years
and
at
the
action
level
at
the
90th
percentile
of
those
homes.
K
So
we
have
to
stack
them
up
in
ascending
order
and
if
we're
at
that
15
parts
per
billion
for
lead
or
1300
for
copper,
which
that's
not
an
issue
but
lead,
is
the
bigger
thing.
We
have
to
go
back
to
more
sampling,
that
kind
of
thing
and
sample
more
often,
so
that
trigger
level
is
now
going
to
be
10
per
billion
instead
of
15.
K
they're,
also
requiring
us
to
complete
lead
and
service
line
replacements
on
the
public
and
private
side.
If
we
exceed
that
10
part
per
billion
action
level,
they're
also
going
to
require
us
to
test
in
schools
and
day
care
facilities
that
are
that
are
licensed
daycare
facilities
and
tests
in
all
elementary
schools.
And
if
high
schools
and
middle
schools
want
to
participate.
K
We
can
do
that,
but
we
will
be
required
to
test
in
elementary
schools
and
we'll
also
be
testing
to
identify
and
provide
information
to
homeowners
in
the
public,
the
location
of
lead
services
and
all
we've
done
some
potholing
in
certain
communities
and
we've
also
interviewed,
like
our
water
maintenance
employees
that
have
been
here
for
several
years
and
some
that
I've
known
for
years,
even
before
they've,
never
seen
the
lead
service
line.
K
But
there
is
a
potential
of
still
possibly
being
some
because
we
have
not
kept
the
best
records
due
to
changing
different,
pretty
much
service
requests.
Databases.
So
we're
just
going
back
to
revolve
those,
but
we're.
H
K
We
have
to
know
the
homeowner's
side
and
that
has
never
been
documented.
We
did
contact
the
county
building
inspections
office
and
they
checked
off
if
it
was
an
improved
plumbing
material,
but
they
didn't
specify
what
the
material
was
so
we're,
basically
starting
from
scratch
on
that.
K
So
what
we've
done
so
far
in
april
2020,
we
reviewed
proposal
from
consulting
firms
to
help
guide
us
in
this,
and
we
also,
like,
I
said,
gather
data
on
our
service.
What
data
we
have
on
our
service
line
materials.
K
We
also
began
working
with
our
gis
for
a
public
map
of
those
service
line
points.
We
also
started
in
june
2020.
Our
crews
and
contractors
are
documenting
what
we
see
when
we
do
a
neighborhood
improvement
project
or
during
routine
repair
or
repairing
service
line.
We
can
usually
see
both
sides
of
the
service
lines
while
we're
in
in
there
and
we're
documenting
what
we're
finding
and
then
we
were
also
able,
in
december
of
2020
to
contract
with
120
water
audit
we've.
Also
sorry,
I
did
not
update
my
presentation.
K
We've
also
completed
about
55
potholes
and
we
are
seeing
some.
We
have
not
seen
any
lead
service
lines
as
I've
said,
but
we
are
seeing
a
lot
of
galvanize
and
I'll
go
into
that
a
little
bit
more
in
a
second.
K
So
just
so
that
you're
clear
on
the
homeowner's
responsibility
from
the
water
meter
back
is
the
customer's
responsibility
and
from
the
water
meter
back
to
the
main.
Is
the
city
responsibility?
K
So
if
we
have
an
exceedance,
we
are
responsible
for
placing
our
side,
but
we
also
have
to
work
with
the
customer
to
replace
their
side.
Epa
is
looking
into
coming
up
like
with
that
new
bipartisan
rule
that
the
biden
administration
is
passing,
we're
hoping
to
get
grants
to
help
people
who
cannot
afford
to
replace
their
service
line.
But
the
biggest
thing
that
we're
doing
is
we
are
treating
the
water
to
make
sure.
K
Hopefully
we
don't
even
have
to
do
that,
but
we
are
doing
testing
and
potholing
just
to
make
sure
we
are
meeting.
We
will
meet
those
requirements
that
will
start
in
2024
with
this
new
rule,
so
any
lead
service
signs
or
lead
fittings
on
the
city
side
of
the
meter
replaced
as
soon
as
possible
and
found
where
test
tests
can
be
provided
if
any
work
is
performed
on
a
lead
service
line
or
galvanized
line
proceeded
by
lead,
fitting
or
lead
service.
K
To
explain
why
we're
doing
it
on
a
galvanized
line
is
back
in
the
day.
Galvanized
like
is
basically
a
galvanized
line.
Is
an
iron
pipe
and
you
can't
you
know.
Iron
is
hard.
You
can't
bend
it,
so
they
use
lead
fittings
to
connect
it
to
the
water
main
and
what
they
found
after
the
flint
incident
is
lead
if
it,
if
the
water's
not
treated
properly
lead,
can
leach
from
those
loaded
fittings
and
then
coat
the
inside
of
galvanized
lines.
K
So
that's
why
we're
focusing
on
galvanize
more
for
us
because
we're
not
finding
in
any
lead
service
lines
but
we're
hoping
that
we're
testing
any
place.
We
are
finding
galvanized
lines
when
we're
doing
the
potholing.
So
far
from
the
55
we've
done,
we've
found
about
25,
so
it's
been
about
half
all
the
lead
samples
that
we've
taken
have
all
been
below
the
detection
limit,
so
that
lets
us
know
that
we
are
treating
the
water
properly,
but
we
want
to
reach
out
to
more
areas
just
to
make
sure
everything's
doing
as
we're
supposed
to.
K
K
Sorry,
the
customers
who
have
lead
galvanized
perceived
by
lead
connections
or
any
unknown
material,
be
notified
annually,
including
how
to
reduce
exposure.
Any
health
effects,
language,
which
is
basically
what
I
read
to
you
in
the
previous
slide,
and
resources
on
how
to
get
their
service
line,
replaced,
lead
service
line
replacement
plan.
K
We
have
to
have
that
in
place
by
2024
and
that
will
include
how
much
we'll,
after
replace
each
calendar
year,
where
the
money's
coming
from
to
do
that
on
our
side
and
then
any
grants
that
we
hopefully
will
be
able
to
make
obtain
through
that
bipartisan
rule.
Only
a
full
replacement
count
so
like
if
we,
for
some
odd
reason,
do
not
meet
that
action
level
or
that
trigger
level
to
meet
the
rule
requirements.
We
have
to
replace
our
side
plus
the
customer
side.
K
So
we
have
to
do
everything
we
can
to
make
sure
we
can
do
this.
We
are
working
on
a
funding
strategy
for
service
line
replacement,
but
with
the
sullivan
axe.
I
don't
know
if
y'all
know
that
much,
but
basically
we're
our
entity,
and
we
cannot
give
mo.
You
know
like
give
money
to
our
customers
being
a
private
entity.
We
are
we're
an
enterprise
fund,
so
what
we
have
to
do
is
set
up
a
grant
through
a
a
private
organization
to
hand
out
those
that
money.
K
K
All
results
will
be
made
available
to
the
public
and
we'll
have
a
website
up
we're
hoping
by
late
2023,
to
have
like
the
interactive
map,
where
you
can
look
up
your
address
and
see
what
you
have
if
it's
unknown,
that
would
let
people
know
they
need
to
contact
us
in
utilities
and
also
school
results
as
well.
Utilities
can
give
schools
and
daycares
advice
on
how
to
resolve
any
issues,
but
we
can't
fix
them
for
them.
We
just
can
guide
them
and
we
can
recollect
samples
once
a
resolution
has
been
applied.
K
We
are
creating
a
led
prevention
and
awareness
program,
it's
called
leap.
We
do
have
the
website
up
on
the
water
resources
webpage,
the
community
we're
hoping
to
have
community
meetings
in
areas
that
are
affected
by
service
line
inventory
or
our
or
affected
customers.
We've
created
a
led
hotline
and
email
for
questions
on
the
leap
website.
K
There's
free
lead,
testing
available
for
all
city
of
asheville,
water
customers
and
there's
annual
reminder.
We
will
be
putting
out
annual
reminders
for
customers
affected.
So
if
we
find
out,
they
have
a
lead
service
line,
a
galvanized
proceeded
by
lead
or
any
unknowns.
We
have
to
send
out
annual
reminders.
Hopefully,
they'll
get
people
to
be
aware,
one
if
they
do
have
galvanized
procedural
head
or
a
lead
service
line
or
if
they
have
an
unknown
as
possible.
They
don't
have
either
one
of
those,
but
it
will
help
us
build
our
inventory.
K
So
potential
responsibility
for
water
customers.
We
hope
you
follow
the
recommended
guidance
to
reduce
lead
exposure.
That's
on
the
leap
website
or
if
you
receive
any
letter,
please
don't
ignore
it
all
customers.
We
ask
all
customers
participate
in
our
service
line,
inventory
study.
K
We
have
to
have
a
service
line
inventory
that
we
can
put
out
to
the
public
and
the
more
participation
we
have
from
customers.
That's
why
we're
hoping
to
do
the
community
meetings
because,
like
I
said,
we're
starting
from
scratch,
especially
on
the
customer
side,
so
that
we
can
get
customers
to
do
that?
Basically,
the
inventory
doesn't
take
long.
It's
either
enter
your
basement
or
crawl
space
and
we
can
see
what
it
is
coming
in.
K
We
also
have
lead
swab
test
kits
that
you
can
sign
up
for
where
customers
can
do
that
themselves
if
they're
not
comfortable
with
someone
from
the
water
department
coming
into
their
home
or
if
they
know
what
they're
looking
at,
they
can
just
call
me
and
tell
me
I'm
taking
whatever
we
can
get
the
petite
and
then
also
if
we,
for
some
odd
reason,
do
not
meet
the
trigger
level
or
action
level.
K
You
know
participate
in
the
lead
service
line
replacement
plan,
should
they
be
contacted
about
replacement
and
also
part
of
the
regulation
is
every
once
we
start
in
2024.
We
have
to
do
two
rounds
of
100
if
you're
contacted
to
participate
in
the
lead
and
copper
testing.
We
ask
that
you
do
because
we
cannot
do
this
without
you
to
make
to
meet
this
regulation.
K
You
go
to
the
water
resources
under
departments.
If
you
go
to
departments,
they
didn't
do
a
good
job
at
putting
it
out
front
and
then
in
the
green
column
it
says,
lead
and
copper.
Oh
that's!
It.
K
Yeah,
but
I
got
it
yeah,
but
it's
up
there.
Basically,
we
are
doing
we
have
probably
about.
We
are
doing
a
potholing
thing.
We've
had
a
budget
to
do
a
hundred,
like
I
said,
we've
done
55.
We
tried
to
reach
out
to
older
homes,
but
we're
hoping
to
reach
all
neighborhoods
as
much
as
possible.
K
You
know,
may
not
answer
a
letter
to
certain
customers
we're
trying
to
find
homes
that
were
older,
like
built
in
the
early
1900s
to
about
the
mid
1950s.
H
K
Get
we
had
pretty
good
sign
up
and
then
it
just
sort
of
died
off,
so
we
have
been
using
able
alert
to
reach
out
to
certain
neighborhoods,
because
I
was
we
had
a
meeting
last
week
to
the
theory
is:
if
we
know
we
have
old
services
water
line
services
to
the
meter
in
a
neighborhood
that
probably
needs
to
be
replaced
within
the
next
10
to
15
years,
then
the
homes
may
potentially
have
that
as
well.
K
So,
like
we
reached
out
to
the
beaver
lake
area
this
past
week,
we've
had
a
lot
of
success,
but
if
y'all
have
any
suggestions
on
community
meetings,
that
kind
of
thing
just
so
we
can
get
this
out
and
want
people
to
participate.
We're
happy
to
do
that.
I'm
happy
to
come
to
any
community
meetings
that
you
may
have
whenever
as
possible
and
that's
pretty
much
the
gist.
Y'all
have
any
other
questions.
K
So
when
we're
potholing,
basically,
what
we're
doing
is
digging
a
small
hole
and
what
that
has
basically
consisted
of
is
we
remove
the
meter
box
at
your
property
edge?
If
your
meter
is
on
your
property
and
we're
looking
at
the
customer
side
and
our
side
coming
in
and
that'll,
let
us
know
what
the
service
line
is
and
then
we're
also
doing.
K
We
have
done
like
a
second
hole
on
the
customer's
property,
but
we
found
if
the
plastic
pipe
is
very
hard
to
locate
so
and
then
sometimes
the
service
lines
are
so
deep.
It's
hard
to
hand
dig
and
get
into
there
like
we're
doing
so.
We
have
been
entering
customers,
crawl,
spaces
or
basements
to
just
get
that
second
site
where
we
can
see
where
it's
coming
in.
K
A
Posted
in
like
the
neighborhood
news
and
updates
jeremy,
do
you
know
that
goes
out
bi-weekly
like
the
city,
neighborhood
news
and
updates?
I
think
that
would
be
a
great
way
to
to
reach
folks
and
also
just
neighborhood
advisory
committee
with
the
different
sort
of
registered
neighborhoods.
At
one
time
we
had
contacts
for
folks
for
different
neighborhood
organizations,
and
I
think
just
working,
probably
with
jeremy
too,
to
get
get
that
information
to
just
do.
Email
blasts
to
those
folks
might
be
a
good
way
to
get
it
out
as
well.
K
I'll,
let
you
send
me
that
comment.
Will
you
send
me
that
contact
list
jeremy
and
then
I
guess,
is
there
anything
else
they'll
have
if
not
I'll,
let
y'all
go
on
to
what
y'all
need
to
do.
A
I
don't
think
we
have
any
other
questions,
but
thanks
so
much
for
presenting
some
some
technical
material
to
us
and
explaining
why
it's
important
we
participate.
I
think
if
we
could
get
a
copy
of
the
presentation.
That
would
be
really
helpful
too
just
to
help
us
sort
of
reabsorb
some
of
the
material,
but
thanks
brenna.
We
really
appreciate
it.
K
A
K
A
Take
care
all
right,
moving
right
along,
so
the
last
item
in
new
business
is
a
new
knack
chairperson.
I
this
evening
am
formally
resigning
from
my
position
as
the
neighborhood
advisory
committee
chair.
I
am,
I
have
actually
accepted
a
position
with
the
city
of
asheville
and
am
not
able
to
continue
on
in
this
capacity.
A
So
I
am
hopeful
that
I
will
continue
working
with
you
all
on
knack
in
some
ways
or
even
on
additional
organizations,
but
what
that
means
is,
according
to
our
bylaws,
under
article
3,
section
3,
that
in
the
event
of
the
death,
resignation
or
removal
of
the
chairperson,
the
vice
chairperson,
the
vice
chairperson,
shall
assume
the
chairperson's
duties
until
such
time
as
the
neck
shall
elect
a
new
chairperson.
So
what
that
means
is,
I
am
handing
chairperson
duties
over
to
babette
this
evening.
A
You're
gonna
do
great,
and
so
I
believe
that
bobette
will
remain
in
that
role
until
the
next
knack
annual
meeting
where
a
vote
will
be
taken.
A
But
I
do
also
think
that
in
upcoming
the
the
december
neck
meeting,
there
will
be
discussion
regarding
a
new
vice
chairperson,
as
well
as
a
new
liaison
to
the
multimodal
transportation
commission
and
any
other
sort
of
housekeeping
idea
or
items
like
that,
in
addition
to
filling
the
soon
to
be
vacant,
roll
for
the
288
06
28
786
representative.
A
So
thank
you
all
for
allowing
me
to
be
your
chair
and
learning
on
the
fly
at
every
single
meeting.
It's
been
a
good
challenge,
so
it's
bittersweet
sharon
go
ahead.
H
You're
fabulous
and
I'm
going
to
miss
you
absolutely
so
I
mean
you've
been
a
great
chair,
absolutely
and
you
made
being
on
neck,
easy,
understandable
and
and
flow,
and
having
sat
on
a
couple
of
committees,
I
can
tell
you
that
that
doesn't
happen
very
often.
So
thank
you
for
that.
A
A
Oh
sure,
I
will
be
stepping
into
a
planner
position
with
the
transportation
department
beginning
on
january
3rd,
so
I'll
be
getting
to
work
with
jessica,
morris
and
lucy
crown
on
a
lot
of
multimodal
related
projects
and
just
any
other
projects.
I'm
sure
that
there's
you
know
it
it's
I
feel,
like
I
have
some
sense
of
ongoings
with
the
city
as
a
resident
and
being
on
this
committee
and
multimodal,
but
I
know
that
there
are
so
many
other
things
going
on
that
I'm
excited
to
learn
about
and
be
a
part
of.
So
that's
what.
A
B
B
She's
been
everywhere,
so
we,
you
know
we
we
know,
but
we
will.
You
will
be
missed
and
you
will
be
called
on
and
I
hope
that
in
the
december
meeting
when
we
do
meet,
I
just
want
to
put
out
there
that
you
know
that
it's
an
awesome
task.
I
have
a
lot
to
learn.
I'll
have
a
lot
to
read.
I
have
a
lot
to
research.
A
Well
said,
bobbitt
all
right:
we
are
catching
up
on
time,
which
is
great,
we'll
move
on
to
our
nac
member
updates
on
other
boards.
So
since
we've
buttoned
up
at
least
for
now,
the
open
space
task
force
work
that
knack
has
been
doing.
All
that
remains
is
just
the
monthly
multimodal
transportation
commission
update
and
we
had
our
october
meeting
just
a
few
days.
I
think
the
wednesday
after
our
last
snack
meeting.
A
So
at
that
meeting
we
discussed
not
having
a
november
meeting
so
we're
actually
going
to
combine
our
november
and
december
meeting
jointly
with
the
downtown
commission.
The
multimodal
transportation
commission
was
also
introduced
to
the
city's
new
traffic
engineer.
A
At
our
last
meeting,
we
received
the
same
presentation
from
the
office
of
data
and
performance
that
knack
received
at
its
last
meeting,
and
then
we
received
a
presentation
on
the
thompson
street
open
streets
event
that
was
held
on
october
16th,
and
so
that
was
held
really
spearheaded
by
the
oakley
neighborhood
association
and
they
partnered
with
aarp
and
asheville
on
bikes
and
if,
if
you're
not
familiar
with
open
streets,
events,
they're
events
that
temporarily
open
streets
to
people
by
closing
them
off
or
restricting
access
to
vehicle
motor
vehicles
to
cars.
A
So
thompson
street
was
closed
from
stoner
road
to
glendale
avenue
for
an
afternoon,
and
the
section
that
was
closed
essentially
follows
the
path
of
where
the
swannanoa
river
greenway
is
planned
to
go
in
and
michael
stratton,
who
is,
I
believe,
a
co-lead
for
the
oakland
neighborhood
association
serves
on
multimodal,
and
so
he
gave
us
his
present
the
presentation
and
by
all
means
it
sounds
like
it
was
a
really
great
success.
A
A
A
It
sounds
like
maybe
the
presentation
that
we
received
from
aarp
several
months
ago,
sort
of
was
maybe
planted
a
seed
or
at
least
created
a
communication
line
between
the
neighborhood
association
and
aarp
to
sort
of
leverage
some
of
aarp's
resources
and
help
to
get
this
done,
which
would
be
really
cool
if
that
was
the
case,
but
I
think
having
him
come
and
speak
to
you
all
about
how
it
could
be
replicated
in
other
neighborhoods.
If
that's
something
any
of
you
or
your
neighborhood
residents
might
be
interested
in,
would
be
really.
H
A
So
that
ties
into
our
next
item,
which
is
agenda
items
for
upcoming
meetings,
already
mentioned
the
thompson
street
open
street
event,
presentation
go
ahead.
Sharon.
H
A
No,
so
ken
still
remains
as
the
director
of
transportation,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
but
andrew
cyborg
had
left
the
city
a
while
ago,
and
this
person
is
stepping
into
his
role.
Okay,
thank
you.
You're
welcome
any
other
questions,
okay,
so
additional
agenda
items
for
consideration
for
future
meetings
also
include
boards
training,
which
we've
talked
about
for
some
time
and
also
an
update
on
the
reimagining
public
safety
initiative,
slash
a
presentation
by
a
community
resource
officer
with
the
police
department.
A
H
D
A
Other
agenda
items
that
are
ideas
that
come
to
mind,
reach
out
to
jeremy
and
or
about
that,
and
with
that
our
next
regular
meeting
under
item
9
is
scheduled
for
monday
december
27
2021,
and
it
remains
virtual
so
check
on
the
city's
engagement
hub
for
more
directions
on
how
to
participate.
A
C
C
A
Sure
I
have
no
skin
in
the
game,
but
anyone
yeah
jeremy
go
ahead.
G
Greg
I'm
glad
you
brought
that
up.
Even
when
I
was
looking
at
the
calendar
two
days
after
christmas.
I
know
it
might
be
a
little
dicey.
What
I
will
say
in
full
transparency
is,
I
think,
about
20.
No
exaggeration
boards
canceled
their
november
meeting
because
of
the
holidays,
and
it
looks
like
that
same
pace
is
happening
for
december,
where
it's
just
a
really
tricky
time.
So
I
I'll
say
that,
with
the
updates
that
I
want
to
provide
I'm
more
than
willing
to
send
that
in
an
email
and
then
we
can
meet
in
january.
G
I
think
that
give
us
some
time
to
get
some
things
together.
So
that's
my
stance
on
it.
Just
let
me
know
so.
I
can
update
sarah,
who
does
all
the
planning
for
the
meeting
for
december,
but
I
can
send
y'all
updates
through
that
and
we
can
schedule
a
january
meeting.
It's
fine
with
me
I'll
put
that
out.
There.
B
A
That
was
going
to
be
my
question,
but
I
think
we
can
go
ahead.
Just
out
of
caution
do
that
and
no
we
don't.
B
Yeah,
I'm
just
going
to
make
a
motion
that
we
not
have
our
december
the
27th
meeting
and
will
meet
again
in
january.
A
Great
so
babette
made
the
motion
greta
seconded.
This
is
anna
and
I.
A
Jp
hi
wendy
hayner
I
peter
abzug
hi
and
sharon
sumrall
hi,
all
right
a
motion
carries
so
knack,
will
not
have
its
december
meeting
and
we'll
have
a
meeting
in
january
with
a
date
to
be
determined.
A
A
H
Great
question:
I'm
sorry
I'm
looking
at
because
we've
got
a
couple
months.
This
re-imaging
public
safety
update.
Where
does
that
come
from
and
where
is
the
information
on
that?
Is
there
a
link
or
is
there
a
discussion
somewhere
on
this,
or
is
this
just
something
we're
going
to
all
come
up
in
our
brains
and
and
just.
G
Now
I've
been
working
with
the
community
resource
officers
and
they're
they're
having
a
bunch
of
meetings
and
doing
a
lot
of
stuff
in
the
community
that
they
want
to
bring
back
and
talk
about.
So
hopefully
kobe
fox
will
be
our
representative
that
can
come.
Then
we
also
have
a
new
sergeant
in
the
cro,
so
maybe
he
can
come
and
talk
about
some
of
the
stuff
that
they're
trying
to
do
so
I'll.