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B
Thank
you
angelica
good
evening.
Everyone.
My
name
is
ashley
traynham,
carson
and
tonight
I
will
be
moderating
the
information
session
about
the
proposed
emergency
shelter
at
the
ramada
inn
to
start
staff
will
be
providing
a
brief
presentation
and
then
we
will
open
up
the
caller
line
for
public
comment.
First,
let's
do
a
round
of
introductions
for
our
city
staff
that
are
joining
us
tonight,
we'll
start
with
nikki.
C
C
C
In
the
end,
we're
going
to
answer
some
questions
that
we've
received
through
email
and
then
also
open
up
our
phone
line
and
have
a
discussion
with
community
members
and
hope
to
answer
their
questions.
So
again,
thanks
for
joining
us-
and
we
look
forward
to
this
discussion
tonight
and
with
that
I'll
turn
it
over
to
emily
and
so
emily.
Just
let
me
know
when
to
advance
your
slides.
E
Great
thank
you.
Go
ahead
to
the
next
slide
and
thank
thanks
all
of
you
for
joining
us
tonight
when
we
think
about
homelessness
in
asheville.
Our
role
at
the
city
is
really
to
take
a
systems
approach
and
looking
at
homelessness
as
a
really
large
community
issue
that
impacts
every
sector
of
our
community.
E
Our
job
at
the
city
is
to
be
sure
that
we
have
an
effective
mix
of
services
to
best
serve
people
experiencing
homelessness
in
our
community.
We
want
to
be
sure
that
we
have
a
good
mix
of
crisis
intervention
services
as
well
as
permanent
housing
services.
We
know
that
homelessness
is
ultimately
a
housing
issue
and
we
have
to
stay
focused
on
exits
to
permanent
housing
from
any
intervention
that
we
develop.
E
Most
of
the
folks
who
are
homeless
in
our
community
are
really
well
served
by
the
strong
service
providers
that
we
have.
We
have
a
really
robust
service
system
in
our
community,
great
nonprofits
that
are
providing
really
effective
emergency
shelter
and
transitional
housing
and
permanent
housing
to
folks
who
are
homeless,
and
we
also
have
a
subset
of
people
who
need
a
different
type
of
intervention
and
continue
to
be
unsheltered,
and
that
means
that
they
are
staying
outside
that
they
are
on
the
streets.
E
We,
you
all
probably
are
familiar
with
this,
but
every
year
we
conduct
a
point
in
time,
count
which
functions
as
a
census
to
identify
all
the
folks
who
are
experiencing
homelessness
on
a
single
night
once
a
year
in
our
2021
point
in
time,
count
which
happened
in
january,
we
identified
527
people
who
were
homeless.
411
of
those
folks
were
in
shelters
or
transitional
housing.
So
again,
the
majority
of
people
really
well
served
by
programs
that
already
exist
in
our
community.
E
116
of
those
folks
were
unsheltered
so
on
the
street,
and
that
number
is
almost
double
the
number
of
unsheltered
people
that
we
saw
in
the
2020
point
in
time.
Count
next
slide.
E
I
you
know
we
certainly
attribute
a
significant,
a
significant
portion
of
the
reason
that
that
number
doubled
to
the
pandemic
of
it
has
been
very
difficult
for
our
community
very
difficult
across
the
country
and
across
the
globe,
and
really
had
a
disproportionate
impact
on
folks
who
are
homeless.
So,
in
the
2020
point
in
time
count
we
had
65
people
here,
unsheltered
2021
we
had
116
people
who
are
unsheltered,
it's
a
really
significant
increase.
E
In
that
time
we
also
are
seeing
an
increase
in
mental
health
needs
and
increase
in
substance
use.
Our
community
and
our
region
have
been
very
hard
hit
by
the
opioid
epidemic
in
particular,
and
we
know
that
there
is
currently
an
increase
in
requests
for
crisis
services,
so
a
large
number
of
people
who
are
reaching
out
for
emergency
support
because
they
are
currently
in
crisis.
E
Because
of
all
of
that,
we
are
recognizing
the
need
to
develop
a
new
intervention
in
our
community.
Again,
we
want
a
full
community
approach,
a
systems
approach
where
we're
really
continually
evaluating
the
mix
of
services
that
we
have
in
our
community
and
adapting
as
the
needs
evolve,
and
what
we
have
identified
right
now
is
that
we
have
an
emergent
need.
We
are
in
a
crisis
situation
in
our
community
and
we
want
to
be
responsive
to
that.
Need
next
slide.
E
Our
goal
in
developing
this
intervention
is
to
decrease
the
number
of
people
who
are
unsheltered,
and
I
want
to
say
again
that,
ultimately,
our
goal
is
to
end
homelessness.
We
we
continue
to
stay,
really
focused
on
exits
to
permanent
housing.
We
want
to
keep
a
housing
focus
in
every
activity
that
we
conduct,
but
specifically
here,
our
goal
is
to
bring
people
inside.
It
is
not
safe
for
people
to
be
outside,
it's
not
safe
for
them.
It's
not
safe
for
our
community
and
so
to
decrease
unsheltered
homelessness
by
developing
a
new
and
targeted
intervention.
E
Often
excuse
me
often
the
reasons
that
people
are
unsheltered
include
that
they
lack
identification,
that
they
are
not
currently
clean
and
sober
that
they
want
to
stay
with
their
partner.
Most
shelters
are
divided
by
gender.
Often
folks
are
not
able
to
stay
with
their
partners
that
they
want
to
bring
their
pets
with
them
and
that
they
really
struggle
in
congregate.
E
Settings
a
large
environment
with
a
lot
of
people
who
are
also
in
crisis
can
be
a
really
difficult
environment
for
people,
and
so
what
we've
seen
in
our
professional
field
in
the
last
few
years
and
across
the
country
is
a
real
shift
around
the
approach
in
delivering
emergency
shelter.
So
we
are
identifying
the
reasons
that
people
are
unsheltered
and
working
to
really
address
those
reasons
to
remove
those
barriers
so
that
people
are
able
to
come
inside
doesn't
mean
that
we
have
a
particular
structure.
D
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
It
takes
a
team
right,
so
I'll
be
talking
more
about
the
vision
for
the
emergency
shelter.
Emily
has
touched
on
a
lot
of
these
points,
but
we
kind
of
want
to
say
that
we
took
the
time
to
kind
of
walk
through
what
we
thought
in
working
with
our
community
members
and
people
folks
who
have
provided
homeless
services
on
what
that
vision
would
look
like
nikki
if
you'll
go
to
the
next
slide.
D
We
want
to
decrease
barriers
to
entry
screen
people
in
as
they
are,
so
that
would
be
a
high
access
to
to
a
crisis
facility.
We
want
to
be
inclusive.
We
don't
want
to
screen
people
out
based
on
their
demographic
characteristics,
but
screen
people
in,
but
we
want
to
ensure
a
healthy
high
functioning
operation
with
safety
based
rules.
D
So
that's
an
important
component
about
the
vision
that
we
have
is
that
no
one
is
screened
out,
but
once
you're
in
you
are
provided
with
health,
healthy,
high
functioning
operation
and
with
safety
in
mind
as
a
key
component,
we
also
want
and
have
a
lot
of
care
providers
in
this
community
that
help
our
community
who
are
in
crisis,
and
we
want
to
create
a
location
where
they
can
come
and
meet
people
where
they
are
so
bringing
people
on
site
to
this
location
so
that
they're
able
to
provide
services
to
this
to
this
group
of
our
community
is
really
important
to
us.
D
D
Why?
Now
the
pandemic
and
and
most
folks
would
acknowledge
this.
The
pandemic
has
heightened
and
highlighted
the
crisis
of
the
homelessness,
not
only
the
pandemic,
but
the
opioid
crisis
has
as
well.
D
We
have
experience
in
doing
this.
We
have,
since
the
pandemic,
worked
on
congregate
on
providing
shelter
for
our
homeless
population
that
are
most
vulnerable.
During
this
time
we
first
started
out
with
a
non
with
a
congregate
setting
at
the
harris
center
and
then
quickly
were
able
to
pivot
into
a
non-congregate
shelter
at
the
red
roof
inn.
So
from
june
of
2020
to
june
of
2021,
we
were
able
to
house
people
at
the
red
roof
inn
and
had
a
great
deal
of
success
with
over
a
third
of
those
folks
entering
into
permanent
housing.
D
Then
we
had
in
the
in
the
spring
of
this
year,
2021
we
had
a
large
group
of
folks
who
were
affected
by
the
pandemic
and
or
other
crisis
that
were
going
on
in
their
lives,
who
were
camping
in
public
parks
and
we're
camping
in
large
groups.
D
We
had
a
lot
of
concerns
about
that,
not
only
for
our
residents
and
the
folks
visiting
the
parks,
but
also
for
the
folks
who
were
camping
there.
We
were
getting
a
lot
of
calls
for
service
to
the
police
because
of
problems
within
the
folks
who
are
camping,
as
well
as
other
problems
from
the
community.
D
At
that
point
in
time,
we
we
started
looking
for
other
options
that
were
safe
and
would
keep
our
homeless
population
safe,
and
we
were
able
to
identify
a
location
of
the
ramada
inn
to
be
able
to
house
folks
too.
So
we
literally
around
april,
started
moving
folks
from
various
encampments
in
the
city
into
hotels,
and
one
of
these
hotels
was
the
ramada
inn.
D
We
do
have
a
new
new
federal
resources
that
provide
an
opportunity
to
to
help
us
fill
this
long-standing
gap
in
community
service
that
these
folks
need.
We've
we've.
We
hope,
we've
identified
in
in
this
presentation
the
the
importance
of
the
non-congregate
setting
and
what
it
brings
to
folks
who,
who
have
that
need
to
be
in
a
separate
room,
and
so
this
opportunity
came
forward
to
us
at
the
same
time
so
nikki
if
you'll
go
to
the
next
slide.
D
So
this
would
target
the
population
of
people
who
would
otherwise
be
unsheltered
or
in
emily's
presentation
those
that
are
unsheltered
with
the
point
in
time
count
the
location
would
have
a
minimum
capacity
of
110
beds.
Most
of
these
would
be
non-congregate
space,
which
essentially
says
they
would
have
their
own
room
and
have
one
household
per
room.
D
There
would
be
a
limited
number
of
spaces
available
for
crisis
referrals
from
law
enforcement,
ems
and
hospital.
This
would
help
with
jail
diversion
as
as
well
as
folks
who
don't
need
to
go
to
the
hospital
to
be
able
to
have
access
to
care
within
this
location,
but
then
be
able
to
get
them
their
needs
met.
C
C
So
really,
through
this
process
and
through
the
structure
we
are
seeking
a
partner,
we
want
to
partner
with
a
direct
service
provider
who
will
actually
be
the
operator
of
the
shelter,
and
what
we
anticipate
is
that
shelter
operator
would
include
24,
7
staffing,
so
they
would
have
intake
for
people
coming
in.
They
would
supply
those
basic
services
you
see
here
we
have
food,
laundry,
linens,
etc.
C
If
you
recall,
on
monday,
we
had
the
panel
discussion
with
goodwill
industries,
they
do
local
job
training,
local
job
placement,
resume.
Building
they've
been
an
active
partner
with
people
who
are
at
the
ramada
now,
and
we
expect
that
a
kind
of
partnership
to
continue
here
with
other
service
providers,
who
will
also
bring
together
the
the
medical
care,
the
behavioral
health
care
and
other
services
that
can
really
help
to
stabilize
people
and
provide
pathways
to
permanent
housing
and
the
city
will
continue
to
act
through
ongoing
oversight
and
support
with
this
shelter.
C
And
so,
when
we
look
at
that
shelter
operator
role,
the
way
we're
getting
there
is
is
it
is
within
the
the
framework
of
city
process,
so
the
city
issued
a
request
for
proposals
or
as
rfp
as
we
say,
and
that
request
for
proposal
asks
shelter,
operators
to
describe
their
approach
and
philosophy,
because
we
want
to
ensure
that
it
does
align
with
the
vision
for
this
site.
We
want
to
know
about
their
experience
with
shelter
operations
and
what
kind
of
populations
that
they
have
worked
with.
C
In
that
experience,
we
want
to
ensure
that
that's
a
key
component
of
the
operator.
We
also
want
to
understand
the
organizational
capacity
to
ensure
that
they
can
bring
the
resources
needed
the
human
resources
there
to
work
with
clients
who
will
be
in
shelter.
We
also
want
to
understand
their
plan
for
managing
the
facility,
the
upkeep,
the
cleanliness,
the
janitorial,
et
cetera,
really
to
keep
the
property
in
good
condition.
C
And
then
we'll
also
be
talking
about
this
operational
plan
and
this
plan
will
be
developed
in
partnership
and
collaboration
with
the
city
and
that
operator
there's
certainly
a
lot
that
needs
to
be
figured
out
and
a
lot
of
procedures
and
policies
to
be
put
in
place.
But
it's
going
to
be
based
on
key
elements,
including
eliminate
those
barriers
to
access
and,
as
you
know,
emily
and
re
really
try
to
paint
that
picture
of.
Why
that's
a
key
component
here
with
the
shelter.
C
We
also
want
to
understand
the
staffing
plan,
as
well
as
the
training
plan
for
those
staff
members
and
based
off
the
the
approach
that
emily
talks
about
a
lot
when
working
with
with
the
specific
population.
It's
very
key
to
have
good
training
so
that
people
know
how
to
de-escalate
and
be
responsive
to
the
needs
of
people
in
crisis.
That's
a
key
component
for
really
increasing
the
safety
on
site
that
flows
right
into
that
safety
and
security,
and
how
all
that
will
be
planned
together
and
managed
through
the
shelter
operator
role.
C
C
So
let's
go
here
so
please
explain
exactly
where
the
term
low
barrier
came
from
and
I
think
emily
you're
in
a
good
position
to
answer
that.
E
Great,
I
do
think
that
we
have
had
a
lot.
We've
had
a
lot
of
community
discussion
about
the
term
low
barrier
and
we've
had
a
lot
of
community
confusion
about
the
term
low
barriers.
So
I
appreciate
having
gotten
this
question.
The
idea
of
low
barrier
is
really
really
really
related
to
access.
E
So
it
means
that,
if
you
think
back
to
that
earlier
slide
about
the
reasons
that
people
are
often
unsheltered
and
don't
come
into
shelter,
those
all
of
those
reasons
are
barriers
to
access,
and
so
the
intention
with
a
low
barrier
approach
to
service
delivery
is
that
you
identify
what
those
are
and
change
them.
So
some
barriers
to
access
include
not
having
state-issued
identification.
E
Another
significant
barrier
that
we
see
often
is
people
who
are
people
who
have
a
partner
and
want
to
stay
with
that
partner.
They
feel
safer
with
that
person
they
don't
feel
comfortable
separating
at
shelters
and
another
is
people
who
are
not
clean
and
sober
with
it.
Just
is
a
reality
in
our
community
that
we
have
a
lot
of
folks
who
are
not
currently
clean
and
sober
and
therefore
not
able
to
access
the
care
that
they
need,
and
so
that
creates
a
barrier
for
them
and
getting
into
shelter.
E
I
want
to
really
emphasize,
though,
that
low
barrier
does
not
mean
that
once
people
are
in,
we
don't
have
any
rules
blow
barriers
really
specifically
around
access
to
services.
Once
people
are
engaged
in
the
shelter
they
absolutely
have
to
be
able
to
participate
safely
in
order
to
continue
to
participate,
so
any
shelter
will
have
to
have
safety
based
rules
and
have
to
have
a
safe
and
healthy
environment.
In
order
to
be
successful,
that's
a
high
priority
in
this
project.
C
D
Thank
you
nikki,
so
the
way
that
I
would
answer
this
question
and
I
think
I'm
thinking
that
whoever
sent
it
in
was
asking
how
is
the
low
barrier
shelter
in
our
vision
or
the
high
access
emergency
crisis,
shelter
different
from
what's
operating
the
folks
that
are
at
the
ramada
in
now
were
all
a
part
of
a
group
that
were
in
different
encampments
and
parks
back
in
the
spring.
D
So
this
that
we
have
not
continued
to
allow
folks
to
come
into
the
shelter
until
we
are
able
to
move
forward
and
make
sure
we
can
provide
appropriate
wrap-around
services.
E
I'd
say
that
another
two
other
big
pieces,
one
is
all
of
those
things
that
nikki
went
through
about
requirements
in
the
rfp
submission
from
a
prospective
partner.
E
C
So
I
think
I'll
try
to
answer
the
next
question
here
about
why?
Why
did
the
city
choose
this
location?
Why
is
it
not
downtown,
and
so
I
want
to
talk
about
that.
So,
first,
let's
talk
about
zoning
so
that
the
current
zoning
is
regional
business
and
we
were
able
to
clarify
that
that
a
shelter
is
a
use
by
right
in
that
zoning
district,
so
it
does
conform
with
the
current
zoning.
C
C
One
of
the
other
pieces
is
that
it's
move-in
ready.
So
so
this
current
hotel
can
be
used
as
a
shelter
with
minimum
up
fits.
The
acquisition
of
this
property
does
include
the
furniture
and
and
everything
included
on
site,
so
that
does
mean
that
it
can
be
up
and
running
with
minimal
upfits
as
a
shelter.
That's
important
again
when
we
talk
about
crisis
and
the
ability
to
respond
now
to
this
need
other
details,
such
as
there
is
no
elevator
on
site.
C
So
when
we
think
about
long-term
maintenance,
it's
really
nice
that
it's
a
two-story
walk-up
on
the
property.
Also
the
interior
rooms,
the
interior
rooms
are
accessed
off
of
a
hallway,
so
that
is
provides
us
options
with
respect
to
security.
C
C
So
when
we
think
about
acquiring
property
with
the
city,
we
think
about
that
long-term
perspective
and
and
the
importance
of
looking
at
at
a
real
property
and
it's
in
its
uses
that
that
could
occur,
and
so
looking
at
those
options
are
important
and
understanding
that
flexibility
is
important
when
making
a
strategic
purchase
like
this,
and
also
it's
it's
right
sized.
C
When
we
think
about
what
what
emily
said
earlier
about
the
number
of
unsheltered
people
in
our
community
right
now
and
the
number
of
rooms
that
are
proposed,
we
feel
like
this
is
the
right
sized
and
right
priced
intervention
that
is
needed
at
this
time.
And
so
with
with
the
idea
of
why
it's
not
downtown.
I
mean
when
we
think
about
the
way
that
this
is
structured
with
services
being
provided
on
site.
We
do
believe
that
the
concept
is
really
bringing
that
to
people
where
they
are.
C
That's
really
what
we
mean
by
that
is
bringing
services
to
where
they
are
in
their
in
their
personal
life
and
in
their
personal
journey,
but
also
where
they
are
in
place
and
so
having
people
with
their
own
room
having
that
stability
and
that
integrity
of
having
your
own
room,
but
also
having
services,
where
it's
not
as
if
you're
having
to
go
out
to
all
these
different
places,
to
get
your
needs
met
and
to
really
find
that
pathway
out
of
homelessness.
But
those
services
are
brought
in
house.
C
D
You
nikki,
I
want
to
point
out
a
couple
of
things
about
this
location
as
well,
when,
when
we
started
looking
at
the
encampments
that
we
had
in
the
city
around
the
spring,
it
just
so
happened
that
we
had
a
very
large
encampment
in
close
proximity
to
this
this
location.
D
So
when
folks
were
camping
in
a
park
adjacent
to
this
property,
we
had
an
extremely
unsafe
situation
for
the
campers,
those
that
were
unprotected
by
camping
at
night,
as
well
as
the
surrounding
property
owners.
So
essentially
the
same
folks
who
look
the
same
location
where
we
are
considering
now
were
affected
by
the
encampments
that
were
going
on
one
of
the
things
we
did.
D
When
we
looked
at
this
property,
we
we
have
certain
practices
and
principles
that
the
police
department
are
certified
in,
and
it's
called
crime
prevention
through
environmental
design,
and
so
some
of
the
things
that
I
mentioned
earlier
about
having
controlled
access,
improving
lighting
being
able
to
have
fencing
doing
other
things
at
the
property
having
cameras,
they're
all
ways
that
the
property
can
be
designed
in
order
to
keep
it
safe
for
the
folks
who
are
on
site
as
well
as
for
the
neighbors,
you
know,
one
of
the
things
that's
really
important
is
to
be
good
neighbors
to
all
of
our
community
and
that
that
is.
D
That
is
one
of
the
things
we
focused
on
and
in
doing
the
project
planning.
For
this.
This
property
is
one
of
the
first
things
we
would
want
to
do,
and
we've
also
looked
at
ways
that
we
could
construct
sidewalks
so
that
we
could
encourage
and
keep
people
off
private
property
so
as
to
lessen
the
impact
to
joining
property
owners.
C
And
I
think
one
of
the
the
last
questions
that
we
pulled
from
our
emails
was:
what
about
people
who
choose
to
be
homeless.
E
I
I've
always,
I
always
loved
this
question,
because
I
have
worked
on
homelessness
a
long
time
and
it's
always
been
my
belief
that
people
don't
choose
to
be
homeless.
I
think
you
can't
walk
into
a
second
grade,
classroom
anywhere
in
the
united
states
and
say
who
wants
to
be
homeless
when
you
grow
up
and
have
a
single
child
raise
a
hand?
It's
not.
It
is
not
the
goal
for
people
to
end
up
there.
People
become
homeless
because
they
experience
a
crisis.
They
don't
have
enough
support
in
that
crisis.
E
E
Those
are
the
things
that
have
happened
to
people
who
were
sleeping
in
parks
in
the
city
of
asheville,
and
so
what
I
appreciate
about
this
question
right
now
is
that
our
experience
with
this
particular
project
at
the
ramada
really
sort
of
substantiated
what
I've
always
believed
to
be
true,
because
when
we
went
to
when
we
went
into
those
three
camps
that
we
where
we
were
offering
folks
the
opportunity
to
move
into
the
shelter
option,
100
of
the
people
that
we
talked
to
said
yes.
E
So
I
think
we
have
had
this
really
long-standing
narrative
in
our
community
that
people
want
to
be
homeless,
that
some
people
are
choosing
to
be
homeless,
that
people
are
offered
shelter
and
they
decline.
And
that
is
true,
and
that
is
because
we
haven't
had
the
type
of
shelter
available
that
best
meets
the
needs
of
this
particular
subset
of
the
population.
E
So
that's
really.
Our
goal
again
in
this
project
is
to
develop
that
type
of
intervention.
But
I
I
do
believe
the
onus
is
on
us,
as
a
community
and
as
on
a
as
a
homeless
service
system,
to
to
really
identify
what
people
need
and
be
responsive
to
those
needs.
And
so
it's
been
really
heartening
to
me
in
this
experience
that
that
when
people
have
had
the
option
to
come
inside,
they
have
chosen
to
come
inside.
C
Great,
so
I
think
I
think
at
this
point
that
was
our
again
our
highlights
from
our
email
questions.
We
did
want
to
now
open
the
caller
queue
to
begin
the
live
discussion
so
I'll
turn.
It
ashley
thanks,
ashley
I'll
I'll
turn
it
over
to
you.
B
All
right
good
evening
again
we're
going
to
start
our
calls,
and
I
just
wanted
to
we're
going
to
turn
it
over
to
question
and
answer
section
of
the
meeting
you
we
have
received.
We've
received
email
questions
and
asked
callers
to
register
in
advance
to
ask
live
questions.
Callers
are
given
three
minutes
to
share
and
we
ask
that
all
callers
follow
the
rules
of
decorum.
If
we
have
time
staff
will
answer
questions
we
receive
through
email,
we
are
only
taking
calls
from
individuals
who
registered
if
you're
on
the
call.
B
B
B
B
Emily
m
your
phone
line
is
now
open.
You
can
start
your
comment
or
question.
G
Okay,
hi
everyone.
My
name
is
emily
and
I
work
out
about
four
times
per
week
at
the
river
ridge
shopping
center,
which
is
near
the
proposed
shelter
site.
I'm
calling
to
say
that
I
support
the
low
barrier
homeless,
shelter.
I
want
to
thank
everyone.
Who's
worked
on
this
project
for
their
efforts.
I
think
you're
all
working
on
something
great.
I
also
want
to
say
thank
you
for
addressing
a
lot
of
the
questions
I
emailed
in
in
your
presentation.
G
So
sorry,
if
I
repeat
anything,
you
already
said
because
I
read
this
before-
I
saw
the
presentation
so
since
hearing
about
this
project,
I've
done
some
research
into
what
a
low
barrier
homeless
shelter
is.
I
think
the
idea
is
somewhat
misunderstood
by
members
of
the
community
who
think
that
a
low
barrier,
shelter
means
that
the
shelter
will
not
have
other
services,
such
as
employment
services,
mental
health
services
and
physical
health
services,
from
doing
research
on
these
shelters.
G
The
idea
of
a
low
barrier
shelter
is
particularly
appealing
to
me
because
it
leans
away
from
the
idea
of
treating
people
with
addictions
as
less
than
human.
While
I
haven't
done
much
research
into
the
statistics,
I
personally
have
seen
people
I
know
who
have
been
previously
clean
for
years
relapsed
during
covid.
I
assume
this
is
due
to
the
isolation
brought
on
by
the
need
to
quarantine,
in
fact,
my
best
friend,
relapsed
and
passed
away
in
november.
G
It
is
my
understanding
that
a
low
barrier
shelter
does
not
require
people
to
be
clean
and
sober
to
enter,
but
that
it
also
does
not
allow
drugs
or
alcohol
on
the
property.
I
think
that
is
great,
because
I
do
not
think
that
people
fighting
addiction
have
as
much
of
a
chance
to
get
clean
while
they
are
unhoused.
G
I
believe
that
we
are
all
created
in
god's
image
and
I
do
not
think
that
having
an
addiction
means,
someone
is
less
worthy
of
housing,
respect
and
love,
a
low
barrier,
shelter
that
will
not
turn
people
away
for
drug
or
alcohol
addiction
embodies
this
idea.
I
also
want
to
say
that
I
don't
know
any
statistics
for
our
homeless
population
on
addiction,
but
I
do
feel
that
many
people
make
a
snap
judgment.
That
addiction
is
the
only
reason
for
homelessness,
and
it's
not
it's
just
one.
G
I
chose
to
speak
about
because
it's
an
it
it's
an
issue,
that's
very
close
to
home.
For
me,
I
do
know
from
discussions
with
other
people
that
one
of
the
concerns
of
the
surrounding
businesses
is
that
people
may
choose
to
use
drugs
and
alcohol
right
outside
the
boundaries
of
the
shelter
property
and
then
go
into
the
shelter.
This
could
cause
increased
litter
on
the
property
surrounding
the
shelter,
and
I
would
like
to
ask
the
city
to
respond
to
this
concern
so
that
these
businesses
can
have
more
confidence
in
the
project.
G
D
Ashley,
if
I
could
just
speak
to
two
things
that
emily
said,
I
I
appreciate
the
comment
about
making
sure
that
we
communicate
better
about
the
wrap
around
services.
So
it
sounds
like
we
were
getting
good
feedback
about
parts
of
this
project
that
maybe
we
haven't
communicated.
D
So
we
will
take
note
of
that
and
I
wanted
to
just
notice
that
and-
and
we
will
take
note
to
say
we
have-
we
have
been
the
provider
that
we
have
on
site
now
has
been
walking
around
and
trying
to
to
pick
up
litter
on
adjacent
sites,
and
we
will
continue
to
do
that
and
it
would
be
a
requirement
in
working
with
an
operator
that
they
work
with
the
adjoining
property
to
try
to
make
sure
we
pick
trash
up.
So
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
just
to
address
those
two
issues.
G
Great
I'm
I'm
pretty
concerned
about
a
few
things
I
heard
in
the
previous
meeting.
I'm
sorry
about
the
dog.
G
I
heard
that
in
order
to
keep
the
of
adjacent
properties
safe,
that
you
guys
are
planning
to
build
a
fence
around
the
ramada.
While
I
understand
the
importance
of
keeping
people
safe,
I
also
feel
that
brings
down
the
comfort
level
because
it
was
spoken
about
that
in
order
to
recover
that
people
need
to
be
comfortable,
but
once
you
begin
building
up
barriers
and
walls,
it
feels
as
if
you're
being
treated
as
a
different
human
like
you're,
not
really
being
treated
the
same
as
say
your
neighbor,
who
does
not
have
to
be
caged
up.
G
G
G
I
understand
that
this
is
not
the
intent
of
the
shelter,
but
I
I
think
this
is
how
it
can
be
coming
off.
I
work
up
there
with
quite
a
few
people
and
already
they're
saying
well,
if
they're
going
to
put
me
in
a
cage
I'm
going
to
leave
because
people
they
they
feel
a
lack
of
freedom
when
they
need
to
be
checked
in
and
checked
out
it.
G
It
really
brings
down
their
morale,
they
don't
feel
like
they're
going
to
be
treated
the
same
anymore
and
I
think
it
needs
to
be
addressed
and
there's
also
a
lot
of
children
out
here
on
the
streets
living
in
cars
and
tents,
and
I
feel
that
if
this
is
an
emergency
shelter
that
children
in
the
elderly
and
disabled
also
need
to
be
brought
forth
as
an
immediate
importance
that
needs
to
be
sheltered.
First,
that's
all.
I
can
currently
think
of
on
my
mind
right
now.
D
Ashley,
can
I
speak
quickly
I'll?
I
will
try
to
speak
quickly
to
this
and
then
maybe,
if
emily
or
nicki,
we
would
propose
that
it
would
be
a
decorative
offense.
We,
we
have
had
conversations
about
not
wanting
to
put
in
fencing
that
would
resemble
something
of
of
a
of
a
penal
standard,
but
more
of
something
that
looks
decorative,
maybe
comparable
to
what's
at
the
va.
D
So
we
have
had
discussions
about
trying
to
make
sure
people
don't
feel
like
they're
imprisoned.
I
also
want
to
point
out
that
this
is
the
vision,
for
this
is
a
shelter
for
all.
D
E
I
first
of
all
thank
you
for
those
questions.
I
think
those
are
really
really
thoughtful
questions.
I
want
to
say
about
the
fence
that
the
idea
is
absolutely
not
to
restrict
the
freedom
of
people
who
are
staying
there.
It
is
certainly
not
intended
to
be
a
barrier
for
those
folks.
What
we
do
have
to
have
is
a
way
to
ensure
we
know
who's
on
the
property
and
that
we
that
we
don't
have
this
kind
of
wide
open
access,
which
is
the
current
state
at
the
ramada.
E
There's,
there's
not
a
way
to
know
who
is
coming
off
and
on
to
property
based
on
the
current
configuration
we
do
have
to
have
that
in
order
to
ensure
that
we
have
a
safe
operation
and
that
safe
operation
supports
the
safety
of
the
people
who
are
staying
there.
So
we
know
from
national
data
that
people
who
are
homeless
are
more
likely
to
be
victims
of
crime
than
perpetrators
of
crime.
E
So
the
goal
of
the
fence
again
is
really
to
ensure
that
we
have
a
safe
operation
inside
it's
not
to
restrict
the
freedom
of
folks
who
are
staying
there,
and
the
other
thing
I
wanted
to
say
is
that
the
something
that's
been
really
wonderful
for
me
to
see
in
this
project
is
the
the
real
effectiveness
of
non-congregate
shelters
so
having
the
ability
to
have
people
have
access
to
their
own
space
where
they
are
safe
and
their
you
know
their
household
or
they
as
an
individual,
are
safe
in
their
own.
E
Space
really
promotes
a
lot
of
safety,
but
it
also
gives
us
a
lot
of
flexibility
in
terms
of
who
we're
able
to
serve.
We
do
envision
that
this
project
would
primarily
serve
adults,
but
because
it
does
have
that
non-congregate
flexibility,
we
would
have
the
opportunity
to
serve
folks
who
really
have
no
other
option.
I
just
today
I
was
in
a
conversation
with
somebody
who
is
trying
to
work
with
a
dad
and
a
seven-year-old
and
is
unable
to
find
a
location
where
those
folks
can
be
in
shelter
together,
and
my
other
example
of
this
is.
E
We
have
had
some
folks
at
the
ramada.
We've
had
two
two
people
at
the
ramada
who
were
pregnant.
One
has
already
had
a
baby
since
she's
been
there.
We
certainly
would
never
want
to
ask
that
mom
and
her
new
baby
to
leave.
We
want
to
have
that
flexibility
to
serve
people
who
need
to
be
served.
So
that's
the
real
value
to
me
of
of
a
non-congregate
shelter.
F
Yes,
I
appreciate
this
opportunity
to
hear,
hear
the
plan
and,
to
you
know,
see
the
passion
that
all
of
you
have
that
have
spoken
about
this
project,
I'm
someone
who
lives
at
river
ridge
apartments
and
I'm
on
the
high
side
of
the
hill,
I'm
literally
just
over
a
hill
from
the
ramada
inn.
F
I
walk
a
lot.
I've
lived
here
since
october
and
I
include
the
ramada
inn
in
my
route
and
I
can
tell
you
that,
although
in
theory,
I'm
supportive
of
what
y'all
are
trying
to
do
as
someone
who
lives
right
here,
I'm
I'm
very
concerned
about
the
impact
the
continued
negative
impact
that
it's
going
to
have
to
this
community.
F
I've
seen
things
I've
seen
an
increasing
amount
of
negative
things,
as
I
have
continued
to
walk
over
the
months
around
river
ridge
marketplace
and
there
is
traffic
through
our
property
here
on
a
continual
basis.
Now
I've
witnessed
illegal
drug
use
around
the
mall,
and
I
do
think
that
I
speak
for
a
lot
of
people
who
live
over
here.
F
We're
very
concerned
and
I'm
sure
our
neighbors
at
virta
vista
have
to
be
very
concerned
as
well.
We
have
seen
the
mall
start
to
come
back
from
covid
there's
new
businesses
going
in.
Of
course,
you
realize
that,
and
you
realize
j
s
is
about
to
reopen,
and
I
would
imagine
that
this
is
going
to
not
be
a
positive
for
them.
F
A
lot
of
elderly
people
eat
it
jns
or
used
to
eat
at
j
f,
as
I'm
sure
you're
aware,
and
I
think
that
it's
going
to
discourage
them
from
patronizing
that
restaurant
when
it
reopens.
So
I
don't
have
a
question
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
somebody
on
here
presents
those
concerns,
because
there
are
a
lot
of
people
that
live
in
these
two
large
apartment
communities
that
are
literally
right
up
against
this
property.
Thank
you.
D
Well,
I
think
ashley.
This
is
kathy.
I
think
there
wasn't
a
question
there,
but
I
think
we
do
want
to
acknowledge
and
hear
the
concerns.
I
I
do
want
to
speak
to
the
fact
that,
unfortunately,
given
that
the
coveted
crisis,
the
homeless,
the
increase
in
the
homeless
population,
as
well
as
the
opioid
epidemic,
has
unfortunately
caused
a
lot
of
what
eden
was
speaking
to
to
occur
throughout
the
city,
it
doesn't
make
it
any
less
impactful
to
those
neighbors.
D
I
also
want
to
point
out
that,
in
thinking
through
the
safety
measures
that
we've
talked
about
implementing,
we
would
the
goal
would
be
to
reduce
the
impact
on
those
neighbors
that
they're
currently
seeing.
Thank
you.
H
H
H
H
G
United
church
of
christ-
and
I
want
to
offer
a
deep
gratitude
for
the
work
of
the
city
in
this
time
I
have
sat
at
the
tables
in
which
people
have
spoken
about
this.
There
has
been
input
that
has
been
asked
from
community
leaders
about
how
we
move
through
honoring
the
human
dignity
of
the
folks
in
our
community
who
are
without
homes,
and
one
of
the
known
needs
is
some
type
of
low
barrier,
shelter
that
helps
people
who
have
some
of
the
greatest
needs.
G
This
serves
such
a
deeply
important
need,
particularly
in
this
time,
using
the
ability
to
partner
with
service
providers
and
organizations
is
vital
because
oftentimes
our
service
providers
have
lots
of
abilities.
They
just
don't
have
the
resources
to
help
people
without
resources,
so
the
city
becomes
a
way
to
connect
the
service
providers
to
the
folks
who
most
need
it.
I
want
to
name
that
there
are
many
needs
and
many
solutions,
and
this
is
not
just
one
solution
that
will
solve
all
the
problems.
G
It
is
a
solution
that
will
then
be
a
part
of
the
multi-faceted
solutions
necessary
to
solve
these
problems.
The
actions
of
the
city
staff
and
the
visionaries
who
have
come
to
imagine
this
possibility
have
been
courageous.
They
have
been
innovative,
they
have
acted
boldly
and,
most
importantly,
they
have
acted
with
deep
intention
around
the
humanity
of
every
single
child
of
god.
I
pray
for
you
all.
I
offer
my
gratitude.
I
understand
there
are
concerns.
If
we
live
in
the
what-ifs
forever,
we
will
never
move
forward
with
the
possibilities
of
what
is
needed.
Thank
you.
I
I
Me
yes,
ma'am!
Oh
okay!
Sorry
because
it's
hard
it's
hard
to
know,
yeah.
The
comments
have
been
excellent.
I'm
very
pleased
with
what
you
all
have
presented
with
this.
The
thoroughness.
If
you
have
you,
have
designed
this
program,
I'm
really
distressed
with
the
kind
of
incidents
that
have
occurred
at
river
ridge.
I
I've
I've
read
about
them
on
next
door,
but
that's
very
concerning
so
I
don't
know
how
that's
handled.
I
I
have
a.
I
have
comments
and
I
really
am
full
in
full
support
of
this.
I
just
think
it's
absolutely
necessary
that
we
begin
treating
people
with
with
with
compassion
and
with
and
to
give
them
a
hand
up,
and
but
what
happens?
I
What
happens
if,
if
people
aren't
able
to
comply
with
the
rules
that
are
imposed
that
have
to
be
imposed
for
the
safety
of
all
the
other,
all
the
other
residents,
as
well
as
the
safety
of
the
community?
So
what
happens
if
they,
if
they
have
to
be
expelled
from
from
the
residents?
Where
will
are
they
back
on
the
streets?
What
what
again?
I
That's?
That's?
That's
something
I
had
what
I
thought
about.
That's
it's
a
it's
a
concern.
I
I
did
want
to
to
say
that-
and
this
was
brought
up
by
one
of
the
one
of
the
city
speakers
earlier-
that
that
the
whole
the
culinary
crisis,
the
opiate
crisis,
I
think,
has
been
maybe
a
blessing
in
disguise.
I
I've
I've
been
around
a
long
time.
I
was.
I
was
a
nurse
young
nurse
when,
when
the
state
hospitals
all
over
the
country
were
being
closed
because
people
at
the
thought
would
be
in
the
warehouse
and
people
would
bear
who
did
not
need
custodial
care,
but
they
definitely
needed
the
the
care
of
the
assistant
to
to
to
to
manage
their
illnesses.
I
I
So
I
think
this
has
definitely
brought
to
everybody's
attention,
this,
the
tragic
injustices
that
have
resulted
from
that
lack
of
community
services
and-
and
I'm
so
happy
to
see
that
that
is
recognizing-
that
that
the
plan
for
these
shelters
is
including,
including
those
those
necessary
services
in
order
to
help
people
manage
their
illnesses,
manage
manage
their
their
needs.
I
And,
of
course,
there
are
lots
of
other
reasons
for
homelessness,
whether
it's
trauma
all
kinds
of
trauma,
whether
it's
medical
bankruptcies,
whether
it's
evictions,
whether
it's
loss
of
jobs,
minors
and
results
escaping
escaping
domestic
violence,
there's
so
so
so
many
kinds
of
things
and
all
these
people
obviously
are
going
to
have
to
live
together
in
whatever
environment
is
transition
for
them,
and
it's
a
huge
challenge
and
I'm
I'm
just
it's
full
support
of
it.
I
So
if,
if
there's
ever
a
need
for
volunteers
to
to
work
at
these
at
any
of
these
facilities,
believe
me,
I
will
be
right
there,
volunteering,
so
thank
you
so
much
for
everything
you
have
done
and
for
the
not-for-profits
who
have
who
have
been
behind
all
the
way.
Thank
you.
E
Thank
you,
ashley
I'd
I'd
like
to
respond
to
part
of
that.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
comments
and
for
your
support
of
the
project.
E
I
wanted
to
answer
your
question
about
what
happens
when
folks
are
asked
to
leave
I
so
I
I
want
to
say
again
that
we
that
safety
is
extremely
important
as
it
is
paramount
to
the
success
of
this
project
and
and
as
such,
we
will
be
sure
that
there
are
rules
that
folks
need
to
comply
with,
and
we
know
that
people
are
in
crisis
and
they're,
not
always
good
at
complying
with
rules.
That's
true
of
all
of
us
when
we're
in
crisis.
E
So
certainly
I
would
expect
that
some
folks
will
be
asked
to
leave
it's
critically
important
that
they
have
the
opportunity
to
try
again,
I
think,
that's
a
major
component
of
the
low
barrier
approach.
We
want
to
be
sure
that
people
are
offered
second
chances
and
third
chances
and
fourth
chances
as
long
as
they
can
continue
to
do
that
safely.
E
And
so
it
will
be
the
charge
of
the
shelter
operator
to
really
dig
in
with
that
person
to
really
work
creatively
with
them
on
what's
happening
and
how
they
can
better
support
them
and
how
they
can
ensure
safe
participation
in
the
program
going
forward.
J
Yes,
I
know
the
safety
of
the
residents
and
businesses
and
even
elementary
schools,
it's
less
than
a
mile
from
this
property.
I
know
safety
is
insecurity,
is
the
paramount
concern
over
there
and
talking
to
everyone
involved
around
the
site,
and
I
know
earlier.
J
I
know
you
say
that
security
will
be
improved
or
the
issue
will
be
solved
by
the
time
and
operators
named
in
six
months,
and
I
I'm
sorry
named
in
operation
in
six
months
or
so
at
the
first
of
the
year.
J
But
I
don't
you
know
I
read
the
rfp
in
its
entirety
and
and
when,
when
the
operator
is
named,
they
will
be
operating
under
those
rules
of
setting
there
and
since
it
allows
for
no
ids
of
any
kind,
no
sobriety
or
drug
test
of
any
kind
and
even
allows
people
using
the
facility
to
check
their
weapons
at
night
and
retrieve
them
the
next
day,
even
after
the
things
in
operation
by
by
a
professional
operator,
they
hopefully
experience
professional
operator.
J
And
I
know
the
someone
said
earlier
that
knowing
who's
on
the
property
once
this
thing
is
in
operation,
is
of
paramount
importance.
J
Well
again,
with
with
no
ids
being
a
policy,
I
mean
how
in
the
world,
can
you
know
who's
on
the
property
and
earlier
someone
else
cited
red
roof,
the
end
being
the
success
story
to
follow.
But
if
you
actually
look
at
the
statistics,
crime
did
go
up
in
the
immediate
area
after
this
river
started
being
utilized
in
such
a
manner.
So
I
just
wanted
to
bring
those
comments
out
and
that
that
I
thank
you
for
your
time.
E
Thank
you
ashley.
Can
I
respond
to
that?
Also,
yes,
ma'am
keep
jumping
in
I.
I
just
wanted
to
speak
to
your
first
comment
about
ids
and
not
requiring
sobriety
and
weapons,
and
how
can
we
ensure
safety
in
light
of
those
practices
at
the
shelter?
E
The
thing
I
want
to
say
about
that
is
that
all
of
those
things
you
describe
people
not
having
id
people
not
being
clean
and
sober
people
having
weapons.
Those
are
those
are
true
of
people
who
are
currently
unsheltered
in
our
community,
so
those
are
folks
who
are
out
and
about
in
the
community
right
now
without
the
support
that
they
need
in
order
to
stabilize
so
really.
Our
goal
in
this
project
is
to
provide
support
to
people
to
to
promote
their
safety,
as
well
as
community
safety.
K
All
right,
thank
you,
and
I'm
certainly
I'm
a
resident
of
river
ridge
and
have
been
for
the
last
five
years,
and
so
I've
seen
a
good
number
of
changes
in
the
number
of
homeless
coming
through
of
the
type
of
homeless
people
coming
through
and
the
increase
recently
that
I'm
not
at
all
certain
is
due
just
to
the
covet,
but
more
to
at
least
somewhat
to
the
existence
of
the
shelter.
That's
at
the
ramada.
Now,
we've,
certainly,
as
a
number
of
people
said,
have
experienced
a
considerable
increase
in
small
crimes.
K
Everything
from
the
steps
of
a
motorcycle
out
of
our
parking
lot
here
to
car
break-ins
to
people
wandering
around
and
having
to
call
the
police,
because
the
people
were
clearly
not
in
a
normal
state
of
consciousness,
and
I
don't
think
that
the
things
I've
been
hearing
both
earlier
in
the
week
and
now
really
address
most
of
these
things.
We
know
that
there
are
different
kinds
of
people
who
are
homeless,
they're
different
categories
of
homelessness.
K
Very
sympathetic
with
a
person
who
talks
about
the
loss
of
the
state,
mental
hospitals
or
this
sort
of
thing
and
and
then,
of
course,
we
do
have
the
people
and
it
could
be
any
one
of
us.
None
of
us
are
all
that
far
from
being
homeless
in
this
economy,
and
these
are
people
who
need
our
help
and
they
need
shelter
and
they
need
the
all
of
the
facilities
and
things
that
you're
talking
about.
K
However,
there's
also
a
good
number
of
other
people,
and
I
was
a
little
disappointed
in
the
the
point
time
count
which
is
discussed
occurring
in
january
in
january,
when
most
of
the
people
who
are
homeless
are
going
to
be
in
shelters.
K
That's
that's,
not
a
useful,
it's
a
useful
figure,
but
not
useful
for
our
purposes,
and
so
I'm
a
little
disappointed
in
that
the
the
safety
this
being
talked
about.
Okay,
so
you
put
up
a
fence
around
the
place,
an
attractive
sense.
Maybe
it
could
have
a
nice
slogan
on
it
like
work,
will
make
you
free
that
that
was
used
a
lot
in
the
past
and
we
saw
how
that
how
well
that
worked
out.
K
I
don't
think
that
a
nice
sense
is
going
to
make
anybody
happy.
It's
not
going
to
keep
people
in
it's
not
going
to
keep
people
out
if
it's
good
enough
to
keep
people
in
or
if
it's
good
enough
to
keep
drug
dealers
and
like
out
it's
a
pen
that
keeps
people
in.
Also,
let's
be
honest
about
that,
however,
it
will
not
add
to
the
safety
of
the
community.
K
Where
are
they
going
to
go
to
to
deal
with
their
problems?
They're
not
going
to
go
far
they're
going
to
go
in
my
yard,
in
your
yard,
to
the
neighboring
businesses,
where
they
sleep
now,
and
if
this,
what
we
want,
I
don't
see
any
anything.
That's
being
said
that
we'll
have
any
control
over
that,
and
I
think
those
are
things
that
need
to
be
addressed
very
strongly
before
we
turn
this
ramada
into
a
homeless,
shelter
of
a
type
that's
being
talked
about.
Thank
you.
E
Thank
you,
I'd
love
to
respond
to
the
the
data
part.
I
could
talk
about
data
around
homelessness
all
day,
so
please
feel
free
to
be
in
touch
with
me,
but
I
I
wanted
to
talk
about
the
point
in
time.
Count
question
in
particular,
so
it
is
a
hud
requirement
of
every
community
across
the
country
to
conduct
a
point
in
time.
Count
annually
and
hud
gives
us
a
window
of
time
to
do
that.
E
It's
a
10-day
window
and
it
is
that
time
period
every
year,
and
so
that's
not
a
local
decision
that
we
make.
We
make
our
decision
about
when
we
conduct
the
count
within
that
10-day
window,
but
but
that
is
a
federal
requirement
for
us
as
a
community
and
it's
directly
tied
to
some
of
the
federal
funding
that
we're
able
to
access
to
provide
crisis
services
as
well
as
permanent
housing
services.
E
For
folks
who
are
homeless,
we
also
manage
a
homeless
management
information
system,
so
a
database
of
folks
who
are
homeless
in
our
community
and
connecting
with
service
providers.
That's
part
of
my
role
at
the
city.
The
data
in
that
database
is
dependent
on
service
provider
participation
and
some
service
providers
are
using
funding
that
requires
them
to
participate.
E
Some
are
not
and
elect
to
participate
anyway,
but
we
are
always
working
to
improve
our
quality
of
data
and
our
quantity
of
data
in
that
system,
because
it
is
critically
important
for
us
to
have
a
good
handle
on
who
is
homeless
in
our
community,
what
their
demographic
characteristics
are
and
what
their
specific
needs
are,
so
that
we
can
continue
to
tailor
the
interventions
available
to
be
most
responsive
to
the
need.
B
Thank
you
and
I
just
want
to
give
a
reminder.
Angelica
said
she
got
a
few
emails
that
people
aren't
able
to
access
the
phone
line.
The
number
is
855-925-2801.
B
G
G
We
desperately
need
another
intervention
in
our
community,
that
is
low
barrier,
shelter.
I've
been
in
asheville
for
20
years,
working
with
people
on
the
streets
and
it's
one
of
the
most
devastating
things
that
I
continually
see,
especially
with
our
street
medic
team.
Is
we
don't
have
an
intervention
finding
people
in
single
digit
weather
and
having
no
shelter
to
take
them
to?
G
Multiple
different
people
over
decade
periods
of
time
personally
have
found
multiple
families
sleeping
in
their
cars
and
parking
lots,
families
of
five
families
of
six
and
minivans
during
the
pandemic
because
they
lost
their
housing,
no
shelter
to
take
them
to,
and
so
we
know
I
liken
this
to
having
a
medical
center,
a
hospital
that
is
a
trauma
center
that
doesn't
have
a
surgeon
or
a
surgical
unit.
G
G
What
we've
said
is
we
know
that
that
homes
end
homelessness,
and
we
know
that
and
we're
building
homes
along
with
lots
of
people
in
this
community.
But
in
the
meantime,
we
need
to
not
only
provide
a
housing
first
option,
but
a
shelter
first
option.
We
need
to
have
shelter
for
everybody
in
our
community.
G
So
again,
I
just
want
to
say
how
much
we
need
this
desperately
we
get
called
every
day
for
of
people
on
the
streets.
We
see
people
on
the
streets
every
day
with
our
street
medic
team
with
no
shelter,
and
we
know
dozens
upon
families
right
now
that
are
falling
into
homelessness,
because
there's
no
housing
for
them
to
go
to.
G
B
B
G
Hi,
I
you
know,
I
work
in
community
mental
health
so
and
I
I
can
totally
appreciate,
we
do
need
resources
for
homeless
individuals
in
our
community,
and
you
know,
part
of
my
job
is
just
working
primarily
with
mental
health
and
substance.
Use
issues,
and
you
know,
homelessness
does
certainly
contribute
to
those
things,
and
you
know
vice
versa.
G
The
other
side
of
the
coin
is
too,
is
being
a
mom
and
a
resident
of
river
ridge.
You
know
I
am
concerned
when
we
do
find
drug
paraphernalia
on
our
walks
around
the
neighborhood
or
up
to
businesses,
and
I'm
with
my
kids
and
it's
it
is
a
safety
concern.
So
my
my
hope
is
that
there
is
some
security
measurements
being
taken
into
place
and
I
apologize.
I
joined
the
meeting
late.
G
I'm
sure
some
of
this
is
discussed
already,
however
it
it
is
a
big
concern
for
me-
and
I
am
aware
of
you
know
the
similar
project
project
that
was
run
over
in
west
asheville,
and
I'm
also
aware
too
that
the
crime
did
go
up.
So
I'm
hoping
that
when
considering
a
new
site
for
for
this,
it's
not
just
it's.
G
It's
the
whole
community,
that's
considered
about
what
will
make
it
truly
a
success,
and
I'm
hoping
you
know
this
is
I'm
glad
that
some
attention
is
being
drawn
to
to
the
homeless
population
more
so
now,
and
hopefully
the
city
can
work
out
a
solution
that
will
benefit
everybody.
Thank
you.
G
Listening
to
my
comments
today,
I'm
glad
you
identified
maintaining
positive
neighborhood
relationships
as
an
important
criteria
in
your
decision
of
whether
or
not
you're
going
to
purchase
the
ramada
inn
for
appropriate
use
or
for
permanent
use.
I'm
a
resident
of
the
river
ridge
apartments
and
given
the
plan
that
you
all
have
presented
so
far,
I
have
to
say
that
I
cannot
support
purchasing
the
ramada
in
as
a
permanent
site.
G
G
It's
a
crisis-filled
situation,
it's
very
complicated
and
it
requires
constant
efforts
and
de-escalation
and,
with
all
due
respect
to
your
efforts
to
maintain
a
positive
neighborhood
relationship,
enforcing
safety
and
a
code
of
conduct
on
the
site,
adding
cameras
and
fences
at
the
hotel.
It's
not
going
to
protect
the
surrounding
community
as
another
caller
already
mentioned.
It
just
means
that
those
dangerous
activities
are
occurring
in
our
community.
G
Instead
of
on
the
hotel
property,
our
community
is
already
seeing
significant
negative
impacts
from
this
use
of
the
ramada
inn
and
having
a
permanent
center
with
ongoing
issues
with
safety
and
crisis
management.
It
concentrates
the
homeless
population
of
the
city
right
over
the
fence.
For
me,
it's
not
something
that
I
want
for
my
community,
I'm
a
single
woman
who
lives
alone,
and
I
was
very
careful
in
choosing
where
to
live
in
asheville
and
I
chose
river
ridge
because
it
did
feel
safe
to
me
and
it
had
a
sense
of
community.
G
G
G
G
I'm
very
sad
to
say
I
no
longer
feel
safe
in
my
community
and
in
my
home
and
as
much
as
I've
loved
living
here.
I
don't
feel
I
can
continue
living
here
if
the
ramada
inn
continues
to
be
operated
as
a
homeless,
shelter
and
I've
had
friends
who
live
in
these
two
apartment
complexes,
who
tell
me
that
they
feel
the
same
way
and
feel
like
they're
going
to
have
to
move
if
this
continues
to
be
operated
as
a
homeless
center.
G
B
G
Yes,
can
you
hear
me
now?
Okay,
thank
you
and
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
having
this
informational
meeting.
I
I'm
impressed
with
the
thought
and
the
care
that
has
gone
into
this
project.
I
commend
you
on
that,
and
I
truly
believe
that
we
are
all
our
brother's
keepers.
Each
one
of
us
comes
about
to
a
place
in
life
where
we're
in
crisis
more
or
less.
Some
of
us
have
more
support
systems
around
us
than
others,
but
it's
good
that
asheville
is
trying
to
help
people
that
don't
have
those
services.
G
Can
you
hear
me
again
hello?
Yes,
we
can
hear
you.
Please
continue.
Okay,
yeah!
I
I
I
think
that
the
ramada
is
not
an
appropriate
place
for
this
shelter.
It's
too
close
to
you
know
a
really
coming
back
shopping
area
and
it's
very
close
to
two
densely
populated
apartment
complexes.
I
would
say
that,
within
the
immediate
area,
probably
a
good
thousand
people
are
being
impacted
by
this
and,
what's
going
on,
there
now
is
very
negatively
impacting
us.
G
G
You
know
stolen
grocery
carts,
loaded
with
things
and
those
are
carried
out.
The
hill-
I
don't
know
where
those
came
from,
but
why
they
have
to
come
into
our
area,
to
transport
them
up
to
the
back.
Backwoods
there
are
needles
around
there
are.
You
know
I
know
of
two
or
three
stolen
bikes,
heartbreak-ins
harassment
I
could
go
on
and
on.
G
I
think
you've
heard
this
from
other
people
before
and
what
I
would
request
is
you
think
of
another
area
to
run
this
project
that
is
not
so
intimately
tied
to
a
shopping
and
dense
residential
area,
but
thank
you
very
much
for
hearing
my
concerns.
G
B
B
B
Was
our
last
register
caller?
We
recognize
that
there
are
some
callers
on
the
line
who
wanted
to
speak.
We
only
were
taking
people
who
registered
in
advance
to
have
live
public
comments.
Tonight,
you're
invited
to
still
email
us
at
avl,
ending
homelessness
at
public
input,
dot
com.
Once
again,
we
only
were
taking
registered
callers
and
you
can
still
email
us
your
comments
or
questions
at
abl,
ending
homelessness,
dot
com.
Thank
you.
B
So
team
that
was
like,
I
was
saying
that
was
our
last
callers.
We
did
receive
a
couple
of
emails
during
the
meeting.
Did
you
want
to
take
an
opportunity
to
respond
to
those?
I
can
read
one
off.
That's
been
prepped
for
me,
for
you.
B
E
I
can
take
that
we
will
have
a
selection
committee
and
we're
still
finalizing
the
composition
of
that
committee,
but
we
will
have
a
selection
committee
to
review
all
of
the
responses
all
of
the
proposals
and
also
to
do
interviews
with
the
final
candidates.
C
Great
okay,
well,
thank
you
so
much
ashley
thanks
for
moderating
our
event
again.
We
appreciate
everyone
for
listening
in
tonight
and
also
for
you
that
listened
in
on
monday
as
well.
We
really
appreciate
the
conversation.
It
always
means
a
lot
to
hear
from
our
community
and
and
and
again
just
deep
appreciation
for
for
everyone.
That's
participated
tonight
so
kathy
emily,
any
final
thoughts,
or
do
we
want
to
just
conclude
with
a
quick
reminder
about
next
steps?
C
C
So
again,
we
thank
everyone
for
your
participation
tonight
and
appreciate
all
right.
That's
it.