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A
And
we
are
live
with
our
our
pre
meeting
jeremy's
going
to
be
cheering
up
today's
meeting
because
robin's
out
of
town,
you
should
be
joining
us
there.
He
is
hey
jeremy,
we're
we're
alive
with
our
with
our
pre-meetings,
so
we
are
free
to
discuss
business
items
or
whatever
else
we'd
like
to
talk
about
figure
out
now,
mu
jeremy
for
speaking.
C
B
Seems
like
we
had
a
pretty
light
meeting
today.
A
We
do
we
do
yeah,
one
formal
item
and
one
informal
item
I'll
just
take
a
minute
to
introduce
to
those
that
may
not
know
her.
One
of
our
staff
members
alex
cole
she's,
a
urban
planner
three
and
she
staffs
the
historic
resources.
Commission
and
I've
pulled
her
in
on
the
staff
lexington
storefront.
We
have,
as
she
is
very
well
suited
for
these.
D
B
C
B
Me
I
think
we
need
one
more
for
to
have
the
meeting
right.
A
A
Input,
oh
okay,
gotcha,
so
yeah,
I
think
I've
been.
I
know
I
know
kate
is
maybe
in
robinson
no
and
that's
about
it.
So
I
think
we
should
get
one
more
person.
I'd
assume
before
we
start
at
12,
30.
A
They're
going
to
be
reviewing
the
applications
at
next
tuesday's
city
council,
think
working
group
and
I
I
think,
making
recommendation
perhaps
voting
that
night,
so
maybe
by
next
meeting
we'll
have
time
to
get
that
person
up
to
speed
trained
up
a
little
bit
and
trial
by
fire
at
our
next
drc
meeting.
Hopefully,
cool.
E
Will
for
the
project
on
lexington?
Do
we
have
any
actual
elevations
other
than
that
sketched
on
photo?
No.
A
We
do
not
so
kind
of
what's
on
the
website
is
kind
of
the
best
we
got
so
I
know
it's
not
ideal.
A
It's
it's
a
little
bit.
I
don't
know
I
don't
know
what's
normal.
A
To
be
honest,
I
think
what
they
submitted
was
acceptable
for
for
the
permit
application,
but
then,
for
our
purposes,
they're
able
to
at
least
provide
that
illustration-
which
I
know
is
not
preferred
so
it's
kind
of
trying
to
find
kind
of
that
balance
between
you
know
being
either
overly
strict
with
requirements
for
for
a
smaller
project,
but
also
having
enough
information
for
you
all
to
make
an
informed
decision-
and
this
is
just
kind
of
this-
is
that
weird
in-between
project,
where
it's
not
a
level
one,
two
or
three,
but
it's
more
than
just
a
minor
work,
because
it
is
changing
the
exterior
of
the
building,
which
is
why
you
all
are
seeing
it
today.
A
So
it's
kind
of
that
explains
it,
that
that
was
that's
kind
of
how
it
played
out
and
the
way
I'm
looking
at
it.
D
No,
we
don't
have
any
historic
photos,
but
I
did
pull
the
info
from
the
national
register
nomination.
The
last
update
and
boundary
increased
happened
in
2011
and
it
gives
a
pretty
good
description.
D
It
seems
like
the
two
storefronts
on
the
first
floor,
matched
each
other
and
then
the
second
story
had
two
bands
of
six
over
six
windows.
There
were
four
on
each
side
and
it's
my
understanding
from
the
applicant
that
those
windows
are
gone
now,
unfortunately,
but-
and
it
looks
like
from
what
I
can
tell
the
the
storefront
to
the
left
has
been
mucked
up
with
the
garage
door,
but
but
the
other
one
is
is
pretty
well
intact.
D
B
Hey
will
anything
new
coming
up
that
you
anticipate
at
the
next
meeting
that
you
can
share.
A
Yeah
I'd
be
glad
to
check
the
some
of
our
pipeline
tracking
sheets.
A
I
know
at
some
point
we'll
be
taking
another
look
at
the
project
at
226
hilly
and
85
ashland
they're,
calling
that
now
the
duke
so
the
coroner
pillared
in
ashland
downtown
they're.
They
were
there
here
in
april
for
an
informal
review
and
they've
kind
of
been
tweaking
the
project
a
little
bit
based
on.
A
You
know,
conversations
with
the
community
and
the
client.
I
think
they
might
come
back
in
the
next
meeting,
either
formal
or
informal,
depending
on
where
they're
at
that's
going
to
be
a
larger
scale.
Building
I
think
around,
like
230
units
give
or
take
250
000
square
feet,
so
that'll
be
a
review
coming
down
the
pike.
A
Sooner
than
later.
Obviously,
we
have
the
informal
for
acid
and
sawyer
micro
housing
today,
both
coming
back
for
four
mole,
either
next
month
or
probably
october,.
A
I
think
what
else
that
that
kind
of
might
be
all
that
I
have
I
can
see
in
the
future
in
the
near
term,
but
there
well
could
be
a
couple
more
projects
that
pop
up.
B
A
Yeah
yeah,
I'm
glad
to
to
share
whatever
information
I
have
about
upcoming
items
and
that
kind
of
thing,
maybe
it's
helpful,
going
forward.
I
know
usually
I'll
share
the
agenda
with
you
and
robin,
but
maybe
I'll
just
email.
The
whole
committee,
as
soon
as
the
agenda
is
crafted,
which
is
usually
you
know
a
few.
F
A
Before
this
meeting
so
everyone's
kind
of
aware
of
what
what
to
expect
at
the
next
meeting,
but
also
if
there
are
major
projects
coming
down,
the
pike
really
good
heads
up
about
that.
So
you
don't
have
to
start
thinking
about
implications
of
it
and
whatnot.
A
A
Things
to
update
you
all
with
what's
going
on
here,
maybe
you'll
just
say
that
you
know:
we've
been
pretty
pretty
well
under
staffed
for
a
little
while
now
we're
working
through
the
hiring
process
for
for
a
few
positions,
they're
all
kind
of
in
different
stages-
some
are
further
along
than
others,
but
so
you
might
be
seeing
some
new
faces
here
at
some
point.
A
Sooner
than
later,
definitely
we'll
have
another
urban
planner
in
our
division
here,
we'll
be
assisting
with
design
reviews,
maybe
in
a
couple
months
we'll
be
meeting
that
person,
whoever
it
ends
up
being
so
that's
super,
exciting
and
that'll
kind
of
allow
us
to
do.
A
You
know
a
little
more,
a
little
more
work,
some
deeper
dives,
some
just
just
more
than
just
running
the
meetings
and
doing
staff
reports,
which
is
kind
of
our
capacity,
one
that
at
the
moment,
has
been
for
a
few
months
now.
So
that's
exciting
to
think
about
how
to
how
to
work
on
some
interesting,
either
informational
presentations
with
you
all
improvements,
start
thinking
about
guideline
updates
that
kind
of
thing
so.
A
Yeah
so,
and
some
folks
are
on
like
one
princess
on
maternity,
usually
at
least
back
at
some
point
soon.
Our
our
division
here
is
just
myself
alex
and
avery
todd's
still
the
director.
We
have
vadilla
and
long
range,
and
we
have
stephanie
carly
and
dana
in
place
strategies
division,
our
our
admin,
our
admin
support
person.
We
also
do
some
planning
related
roles,
too,
is
going
to
be
taking
into
position
with
our
former
principal
planner,
shannon
over
in
the
town
of
woodfin.
A
So
we're
super
excited
for
her.
We're
gonna
miss
her,
so
we'll
be
a
little
short
on
the
admin
side
of
things.
So
there's
been
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
change
and
folks
having
some
awesome
opportunities
either
within
the
city.
A
couple
staff
have
found
some
great
new
positions
within
the
city
organization
or
or
outside
of
it,
so
we've
got
kind
of
a
new
class
coming
in
so
I'll
feel
like
a
new
guy
I'll
plug
an
old
guy.
A
You
know
a
long
timer
compared
to
some
of
the
folks
who
are
going
to
be
brand
brand
new.
So
it's
exciting,
though
you
know
it's
an
as
well
as
a
challenge,
but
we're
kind
of
in
the
throes
of
it
now
but
yeah
so
we'll
have
some
new
faces,
you'll
be
really
meeting
sooner
or
later.
So
I
may
also
mention
that
also
we
may
be
transitioning
back
to
in-person
meetings.
At
some
point.
A
I
don't
know
if
I
don't
know
who
all
have
been
around
even
pretty
pandemic
to
have
in-person
design
review
committee
meetings,
but
I
don't
think
we
ever
did
that's
right.
Of
course,
yeah.
I
guess
downtown
and
riverfront
were
in
person,
but
then
yeah,
so
design
interviews
never
been
in
person
since
it's
only
a
year
old
and.
B
I
guess
it's
good
afternoon,
I'm
jeremy
goldstein.
I
would
like
to
welcome
you
to
the
august
18
2022
design,
review
committee
meeting.
This
is
a
nine
person
committee.
We
currently
have
eight
people
placed
whose
primary
function
of
this
body
is
to
reform
design,
review
projects
for
located
in
one
of
the
city's
three
designated
design
review
areas
downtown
the
riverfront
and
the
new
hotel
overlay
zoning
districts.
B
B
All
committee
members
and
staff
are
participating
virtually.
We
appreciate
your
patience
as
we
work
through
committee
meetings.
A
bit
differently.
We
are
streaming
live
on
our
virtual
engagement
hub,
which
is
accessible
through
the
virtual
engagement
hub
link
on
the
front
page
of
the
city
website,
and
also
linked
on
the
committee
page.
You
can
also
watch
the
meeting
on
the
city's
youtube
channel.
We
also
have
an
option
for
the
public
to
listen,
live
by
phone
by
calling
855-925-2801.
B
And
enter
code
9410
when
we
get
the
public
comment
section,
you
may
dial
this
same
number
and
press
star
3.
for
those
of
you
out
there
with
us
today
welcome.
I
guess
we'll
first
begin
with
roll
call
I'll
now
go
through
and
introduce
all
the
community
members
who
are
participating
virtually
please
make
sure
to
mute
your
microphone.
If
you
are
not
speaking
when
you
have
a
question
or
would
like
to
speak,
unu
unmute
your
microphone,
please
remember
to
mute
your
mic,
your
phone
after
you're
done
speaking
committee
members.
B
As
I
call
your
name,
please
say
a
quick
hello.
I
don't
see
kate,
kate
and
kai
here
able
to
join
no
christina
buehler.
B
Was
kimberly
hunter
able
to
join
us
today,
steven
lee
johnson
hi
good
afternoon,
brian
moffatt,
hello
and
ricardo
sejo
good
afternoon
good
afternoon.
That
makes
five
so
we
have
the
quorum
needed.
B
B
Additionally,
I
asked
that
committee
members
raised
their
hand
to
speak
and
I
will
call
upon
them.
I'm
not
sure
if
I
know
how
to
deal
with
this
virtual
raising
hand
thing
so,
hopefully
will
can
help
me
out
with
that.
We
will
begin
with
our
administrative
items
and
any
unfinished
business.
B
C
B
Okay,
we
have
motion.
Second,
I
guess
I'll
go
through
the
list
again:
christina
bohr
hi
steven
lee
johnson
hi,
brian
moffitt,
ricardo,
sejo.
C
B
B
B
D
Thank
you
thanks
everyone.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
present
to
you
all
today,
as
well
mentioned
in
the
pre-meeting.
My
name
is
alex
cole.
I
am
a
historic
preservation,
planner,
primarily
the
liaison
to
the
historic
resources
commission,
but
I
will
be
moving
forward.
Helping
out
will
in
our
division
a
little
bit
whenever
this
body
is
considering
historic
buildings
and
rehabilitation
projects.
So
I'm
gonna
go
through
this
staff
report
pretty
quickly.
I'm
gonna
share
my
screen,
pretty
pretty
straightforward
request
here.
D
D
D
All
right
about
now
this
is
the
exterior
of
the
of
the
existing
building.
D
D
I
thought
I
had
put
the
the
europe
construction
in
here
just
to
give
you
an
idea,
but
19
20-ish
somewhere
in
there.
So
the
proposal
involves
we
didn't
as
as
we
talked
about
in
the
pre-media.
Also
we
don't
have
any
elevation
drawings
for
for
this
project.
D
So
instead
of
showing
the
floor
plans
which
I'm
happy
to
pull
up,
if
it's
helpful,
I
think
this
is
maybe
a
little
bit
more
helpful,
just
in
terms
of
providing
a
visual
aid
to
what
they're
proposing
they're
proposing
to
to
replace
both
the
storefronts
on
the
first
floor
and
create
a
new
vestibule
on
the
far
left,
where
the
new
entry
door
would
be
and
then
create
these
kind
of
single
pane
windows
on
on
the
right
side
of
the
vestibule
and
within
the
other,
opening
on
the
other
side
of
that
divider
in
the
center
of
the
first
floor
and
then
the
second
story
windows.
D
I
know
we
were
just
looking
at
it
really
quickly,
but
on
the
street
view
you
can
see
that
they
are
they're
boarded
up,
and
it's
my
understanding
from
the
applicant
that
those
the
historic
windows
that
were
in
the
second
story
have
been
removed.
There
were
four
two
sets
of
four
six
over
six
double
hung
windows
in
those
openings,
so
those
are
proposed
to
just
be
three
single
pane
windows
on
each
side.
D
D
D
We
are.
We
do
also
note
in
the
staff
report
that
it
does.
The
design
is
supported
by
the
design
guidelines
in
that
summer,
the
original
window
openings
on
the
second
story
are
being
maintained
and
the
brick
exterior
of
the
building
is
also
being
maintained.
D
So,
while
we've
noted
some
ways
that
the
project
might
better
align
with
the
guidelines,
if
the
intact
storefront
doors
and
windows
were
restored
rather
than
replaced,
we
are
still
recommending
approval
of
the
request.
So
with
that,
I
am
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
that
this
group
might
have.
A
Okay
and
before
we
get
into
that
christina,
actually
just
emailed
me
a
historic
photograph,
she
was
able
to
track
down
of
the
building.
I'm
gonna,
I
put
it
in
my
drive
and
the
link
is
right
there
in
the
chat.
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
pull
it
up
just
so.
We
have
that
for
reference.
If
it's
it's
useful.
E
D
Yeah,
I
would
think
that
the
you
know
that
that's
that
the
storefronts
have
definitely
probably
changed
a
little
over
time.
I
think
probably
the
transoms
are
are
probably
the
most
intact
feature
on
that.
On
the
first
floor,
it's
too
bad
that
the
second
story
windows
are
missing
and
if
I
were
talking
to
the
sword,
resources
commission,
I
would
say,
like
the
new.
The
new
windows
in
the
second
story
should
match,
but
this
is
a
different,
a
different.
D
E
Alex
are
they?
What
are
they
doing
for
that
central
column
between
the
two
ground
story,
ground,
floor,
storefronts.
D
They're
they're
telling
us
from
that
from
the
rendering
that
they
gave
us
that
that
will
be.
That
will
be
maintained,
because
that
was
a
question
I
had
to,
because
if
you
look
at
the
floor
plan,
it
looks
like
that's
going
away,
which
I'm
not
even
sure
from
a
structural
standpoint
that
would
be
possible,
but
but
will
emailed
with
cameron
the
applicant
and
and
he
confirmed
that
that
that
divide
division
will
stay
and
then
we'll
have
the
two
to
the
changes
will
be
on
either
side
of
it.
E
It
it
is,
and
then,
on
the
on
the
floor
plans,
it
looks
like
they've
got
the
the
new
storefront.
On
that
second
floor,
I
see
four
millions
so
they've
got,
I
mean
four
they've
got
the
divided
in
four,
but
on
the
little
sketch
it's
shown
as
three
do
you
do?
We
know
what
they're
actually
proposing
to
come
back
with,
because
the
the
the
photo
that
christina
just
put
up
showed
four
windows
on
each
side,
and
I
I
kind
of
like
that.
E
I
don't
I
don't
mind
the
you
know
the
new
material
and
stuff
like
that.
We're
not
really
restrained
with
that.
I
just
I'm
just
I
want
to
know
which
one
they're
proposing.
D
Yeah,
that's
a
great
question
not
to
be
perfectly
honest,
like
will
was
saying,
and
we
don't.
I
think,
we're
in
this,
like
weird
gray
area
with
this
project,
where
we're
not
you
know
since
they're,
since
it's
not
even
a
level
one
they're
not
required
to
submit
elevation,
so
it
would,
it
would
have
been
really
helpful
to
see
elevation
so
that
we
could
understand
how
closely
that
matches
with
what
they're
showing
on
their
floor
plan.
D
A
A
But
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
go
ahead
and
record
it
with
your
question
while
miss
king,
maybe
figures
out
the
microphone.
C
Oh
sure,
thanks,
I
was
wondering
if
we're
you
know
sorry
alex.
Did
you
say
that
all
the
windows
on
the
second
floor
were
gone
or
just
one
side,
all
of
them.
D
I
believe
there
are
from
what
I
got
an
email
from
cameron,
the
applicant
a
few
days
ago.
That
said,
they
were.
Unfortunately,
none
of
those
windows
were
still
remaining.
C
So,
if
no
we're
not,
if
we're
not
doing,
you
know
if
we're
not
maintaining
the
original
windows
or
or
even
the
original
look
in
that
sense,
why
are
they
going
with
single
pane
glass.
A
I
think
I
think
miss
kane's
now
phoned
in
so
she
probably
can
maybe.
H
I
somehow
lost
all
communication
well
when
we
were
originally
were
doing
this
project
several
years
ago,
and
we
had
to
take
out
those
the
windows
as
they
weren't
functioning,
and
they
were
just
open
to
the
elements.
Basically,
as
far
as
doing
the
single
pane
glass,
I
think
it's
just
mainly
because
that's
what
was
there
prior,
so
just
trying
to
reincorporate
that.
A
Can
you
can
you
clarify
the
number
of
windows
in
each
bay?
It
looks
like
on
the
floor
plan
for
the
second
floor.
There
are
four
windows
on
each
side,
but
the
drawing
photograph
has
has
three.
Can
you
confirm.
H
That
so
my
understanding
was
that
we
were
going
to
remain
with
the
roll
up,
the
door
being
glass
and
then
storefront
on
the
other
side,
I
think
he's
just
trying,
but
no
yeah.
So
three
and
three
he's
just
trying
to
make
it
look
uniform.
H
A
Yeah
I
mean
it
shows
four
windows
on
the
second
story
of
the
of
the
actual
permit
set
of
plans
that
were
approved
by
by
building
review.
I'll,
leave
that
to
the
commission
whether
they
want
to
make
that
any
kind
of
position
of
their
approval
or
anything
like
that.
But
it
would
be
good
to
clarify
one
way
or
the
other
through
this
you're.
A
A
A
At
right
now,
the
floor
plan
on
the
front
of
the
building
appears
to
show
four
windows
on
each
side
on
each
bay,
as
opposed
to
three.
So
that's
we're
a
little
confused
and
historically,
there
were.
G
B
C
Hey
personally,
I
don't
know
that
you
know
if
it's
not
historic
restoration,
and
you
know
whether
it's
three
or
four.
G
C
You
know,
I
don't
think
it
matters,
and
it's
and
it's
it'd
be
hard
to
really
make
that
call
without
seeing
two
elevations,
you
know
showing
the
two
layouts.
You
know
the
openings
are
like
three
foot
six.
I
think
the
plan
said
so
you
know
whether
you
go
with
three
or
four:
the
glass
isn't
going
to
be
too
big.
B
And
this
is
a
comment
from
you
know
the
layperson.
B
If
you
look
at
the
transom
on
the
ground
level
today,
you've
got
those
four
separate.
If
they
were
going
to
maintain
the
four
below,
I
would
say
it
would
look
better
to
have
the
four
above,
but
if
they're
converting
to
three
it
does
seem
to
me,
it
would
look
better
to
have
a
match,
but.
E
E
So
I
think
you
need
to
work
out
your
geometry
and
and
figure
out
what
you're
doing
a
little
bit
and
if
you're
going
to
have
an
oversized
door.
You
know
the
four
and
a
half
foot
door.
Great
awesome!
That's
fine!
It!
Just
right!
Now
the
math
doesn't
work.
F
C
I
was
going
to
say
that
one
thing
to
consider,
though,
is
you
mentioned
transoms,
having
having
at
least
one
split
in
those
in
those
first
floor.
Openings
might
be
nice
just
to
kind
of
scale
that
big
piece
of
glass
down
a
little
bit
at
the
street
level,
and
it
would
also
probably
you
know,
work
better
with
whatever
you
know,
doors
or
openings.
You
have
there
and
the
other
question
is
from
the
elevation.
C
It
looks
like
they're
knocking
out
that
low
wall
to
the
right
is
that
an
issue
from
from
the
historic
side
of
things.
E
D
E
Yeah,
I'm
I'm
confused
I'll,
be
honest,
I'm
looking
at
the
the
plan
and
and
the
in
the
elevation
and
they
don't
remotely
match
up
the
plan.
The
elevation
shows
that
you're
keeping
the
existing
openings
and
what's
up
and
you're,
matching
what's
going
on
above
and
below.
But
then
I
look
at
the
plan
and
I
see
an
opening
on
plan.
H
H
Are
just
trying
to
do
a
storefront,
that
is,
you
know,
beautifies
the
location
which
it
doesn't
right
now
as
well
as
gets
the
renter
on
the
bottom
floor,
whether
you
know
they're
going
to
be
doing
entertainment
or
art
or
what
have
you
but
getting
it
to
a
point
where
that
can
that
can
be
done
and
somebody
will
be.
You
know,
holding
down
that
that
property
and
somebody
will
be
there
every
day,
working
within
that
property.
E
B
Yeah,
I
think,
there's
a
little
disconnect
here,
because
how
can
we
have
a
review?
We
don't
know
what
we're
reviewing
it's
too.
It's
we
don't
know.
What's
what
and
I
I
know
that
this
is
a
mandatory
review
of
voluntary
compliance.
It's
you
know,
it
doesn't
seem
like
much
of
a
review
if
we,
if
we
don't
really
know
what's
happening.
E
I
I
don't.
I
don't
have
enough
information
to
vote
on
this
or,
if
I
voted
on
it,
I
would
turn
it
down
based
on.
I
can't
tell
what's
going
on,
I
don't
know
what
the
dimensions
are.
E
I
don't
know
what
they're
proposing
this
is
a
contributing
building
and
while
you
know
we
don't
have
the
same
set
of
guidelines
that
we
do,
we
do
have
secretary
of
interior
standards
that
we
would
apply
to
this
that
that
I
just
I
can't
I
can't
even
make
head
or
tails
to
figure
out
how
we're
meeting
or
not
meeting
those
currently
much
less
our
downtown
design
guidelines.
H
H
E
No
that's
correct
we,
but
we
can't
tell
what's
going
on.
I
I
mean
I've
got
a
a
marker
sketch
on
a
with
no
dimensions.
I'd
know
enough
about
buildings
to
know
that,
generally
speaking,
you
don't
have
a
four
and
a
half
foot
door
unless
you're
doing
something
very
fairly
special.
H
E
I
don't
know
what
the
dimensions
on
this
storefront
are.
I
don't
know
what
the
I
don't
know
how
you're
doing
your
your
vestibule
with
the
door
again
the
plans
that
you
submitted
don't
match.
What's
going
on
on
the
sketch,
and
so
I
just
I
just
can't
tell
what
you're
doing
I
understand
that
you
want
to
replace
it,
but-
and
I
would
be
in
full
support
of
you
replacing
putting
new
storefront
in
those
existing
openings.
E
Even
to
the
point
of
you
know,
extending
it
down
to
the
the
pavement
losing
that
little
bit
of
wall
in
the
existing
storefront
I
can
I
can
grasp
I
just.
I
can't
tell
what
you're
doing
right
now.
E
No,
but
generally
speaking,
you
have
all
that
kind
of
stuff
worked
out
before
you
come
to
us
and
we
don't
have
to
do
talk
a
texture
online.
H
B
E
Sorry
bingo
so
yeah,
you
know
what
what
is
the
height
of
the
door?
Is
it
going
to
match
the
existing
transom?
Are
you
taking?
Are
you
keeping
that
transom
line
the
existing
transom
line
all
the
way
across
on
both
openings,
which
I
would
I
would
you
know
the
sketch
doesn't
show
that,
but
I
would
recommend
that
you
do
that.
You
know.
There's
there's
certain
pieces.
H
E
E
I
don't
have
control
but
sure
somebody
can
again
the
the
the
the
goal
is
not
to
sit
here
and
for
us
to
do
talking
and
and
try
to
figure
it
out.
So.
E
But
you're
not
showing
the
transom
on
the
other
storefront,
which
I
would
want
you
to.
I
think
that
would
be
appropriate
in
this
case,
especially
as
this
is
a
again
a
contributing
building,
and
so
normally,
when
we're
doing
a
contributing
building,
we
don't
want
to
create
a
false
sense
of
historicity,
but
we
also
want
to
maintain
historic
patterns
of
fenestration.
I
think
I'm
using
the
correct
language
here.
H
Okay,
so
what
I
mean,
what
you're,
looking
at
what
we're
taking
out
and
putting
in
is
exactly
the
same
measurement.
So
there
is
probably
custom
work
that
needs
to
be
done,
but
we're
maintaining
that
transom
right
there
in
the
middle.
Everything
is
at
the
same
height
and
going
all
the
way
across,
and
then
you
have
the
corresponding
windows
set
in
to
match
down
the
downstairs
area.
B
B
A
A
A
C
There
is
a
caller
in
the
speaker,
queue
right
now.
G
B
I
am
you
know,
I'm
acting
as
chair,
so
normally
in
this
situation.
If
I
wasn't
I'd,
be
making
a
motion
so
I'll
leave
it
to
you
guys,
I
can
make
a
motion,
but
I
usually
prefer
not
to
his
chair.
B
I
don't
think
I
could
support
again.
It's
mandatory
review,
voluntary
compliance.
I
and-
and
I
appreciate
that
the
applicant
wants
to
rent
their
space
and
sell
their
building
and
I'm
all
for
it,
but
I
I
can't
make
a
meaningful
determination
for
what
I've
seen
I
wouldn't
be
able
to
support
would
be
able
to
support
it.
So
that's
I'm
throwing
that
out.
There.
E
I'll
make
a
motion,
I
move
to
not
recommend
approval
of
the
exterior
rehabilitation
at
34,
south
laxton
avenue,
as
presented
on
the
plans
elevations
and
materials
submitted,
and
discussions
heard
during
this
review.
I
find
that
the
project
does
not
meet
the
intent
of
the
downtown
design.
Guidelines
based
on
the
proposed
alterations
do
not
follow
the
historic
pattern
of
the
existing
storefront
and
transoms.
E
The
previous
pattern
of
the
windows
on
the
second
floor
and
that
the
material
submitted
doesn't
is
internally
inconsistent
and
difficult
to
determine
what
the
applicant
actually
intends
to
provide.
Second.
A
E
E
The
applicant
to
understand
that
we
would
normally
try
to
figure
out
a
way
to
approve
something
like
this,
but
the
the
information
is
so
internally
inconsistent
that
it's,
I
can't
approve
it
and.
A
B
You
leave
that
up
to
the
applicant,
I
mean
so
we
have
a
motion
in
a
second
prior
to
voting
on.
It
is
if
the
applicant
wants
us
to
vote
on
it,
we'll
vote
on
it.
If
they
they
want
to
revise
and
resubmit.
So
we
could,
you
know,
be
a
little
more
helpful.
I'm
sure
we
could
entertain
that
as
well.
E
A
And
I
would
advise
that
the
applicant
that
you
know
mostly
projects
want
to
get
approval.
This
one
is
not
going
to
another
body,
so
no
other
body
would
be
considering
whether
you
were
approved
or
not
approved,
necessarily,
but
even
smaller
projects
that
work
through
the
develop.
The
design
review
process
with
this
committee
benefit
from
the
review
and
even
though
it
might
be
more
expeditious
to
not
get
approved
and
move
forward
having
having
checked
this
box
in
your
review
process.
A
If
you
wanted
to
come
back
with
revised
plans
that
were
more
easily
understandable
and
the
committee
could
better
review
and
make
suggestions
of
the
project,
the
overall
design
and
aesthetic
you
know,
look
of
the
building
would
be
improved,
is
usually
the
case.
So
I'll
just
say
that
and
then.
H
I
mean
I'd
rather
not,
but
you
know
we
definitely
want
to
work
with
the
city
in
town
and
try
to
be
as
neighborly
as
possible.
So
I
mean
I
guess:
if
you
can
provide
your
suggestions,
wants
and
needs
for
the
city,
I
would
be
glad
to
go
back
and
and
retro.
H
B
All
right,
we
have
a
motion
motion
in
a
second
I'm
going
to
take.
I
guess:
get
everybody's
vote
here,
christina
bohr.
F
E
B
How
many
people,
four
to
one
okay,
yep,
there's
still
every
opportunity
to
try
to
work
with
staff
and
make
it
visually
appealing
so
appreciate
you
coming
before
us
next
item.
We
have
an
informal
review
of
46
aston
street
aston
and
sawyer
micro
housing
level.
Two.
B
This
is
an
informal
review
of
two
new
seven-story
buildings,
totaling
230
residential
units,
an
exterior
renovation
of
an
existing
building,
totaling
approximately
95
000
square
feet,
contacts
brian
cook,
and
who
will
you
be
presenting
this
or
someone?
Oh
actually,
staff
is
not
preventing
it's
presenting
it's
an
informal
review
so
who
from
the
applicant
is
going
to
present
to
us.
I
That'll,
be
me,
jeremy
is
brian
great,
hey
brian
hey!
I
guess
will
do
you
want
to
pull
that
up
or
or
I
can
share
my
screen.
What's.
A
Whatever's
easier,
if
you
can
do
it,
that's
probably
easier
because
you
can
yeah.
I
I
Great
all
right
yeah,
so
thank
you
all
for
for
for
looking
at
this
as
an
informal
review
just
wanted
to
get
some
of
your
feedback
as
we
as
we
move
move
forward
through
this
project.
So
this
this
site,
it's
the
the
address,
is
46
aston
street,
which
is
sort
of
an
l-shaped
site
that
sits
off
faces
aston
street,
as
well
as
a
portion
of
sawyer
street.
I
We
are
looking
at
subdividing
the
overall
parcel
into
three
separate
parcels,
we'll
have
the
existing
building,
which
is
a
one-story
masonry,
brick
kind
of
industrial,
commercial
building,
we're
looking
at
just
doing
a
shell
renovation
to
that
some
storefronts
in
the
existing
in
the
existing
openings
and
then
once
once,
the
the
client
has
a
tenant
in
hand.
That'll
be
that'll,
be
laid
out
for
that
for
that
potential
tenant.
I
Key
things
we're
looking
at
let's
look
at
today
is
the
as
the
two
new
proposed
buildings,
which
are
seven
story:
multi-family
housing
buildings
with
micro,
housing
and
the
first
one
is:
is
this
one
that's
on
aston
street?
It's
about,
I
believe,
that's
about
60
000
square
feet,
and
then
we
have
one
down
on
sawyer
street,
which
is
about
35
000.
I
And
see
here
there
we
go
so
we'll
start
with
the
the
one
that's
on
aston
street
and
I'll
go
ahead
and
kind
of
walk
through
some
of
the
materials
and-
and
you
know
what
we're
doing
here
and
then
I'll
I'll
pause
for
any
feedback.
With
this
one.
Before
we
move
to
the
to
the
one
on
on
sawyer.
B
That's
a
quick
question:
brian
yeah!
This
is
the
second
time
we're
seeing
this
right.
I
Yeah,
I
think
my
so
my
understanding
I
I
unfortunately
I
was
I
was
not
on
on
that
last
call.
One
of
my
associates
was,
but
my
understanding
is
that
I
think
we
had.
We
had
just
showed
a
couple
of
the
the
3d
renderings
and
I
think
you
all
felt
that
there
wasn't
enough
visual
to
understand
what
we're
proposing.
So
you
requested
it
as
an
elevation.
So
that's
the
main
thing.
That's
that's
different
that
we're
adding
is.
I
I
No,
no,
no,
not
at
all,
not
at
all.
So
this.
This
is
the
main
elevation
along
aston
street.
We
have
the
the
main
entrance
into
the
building
at
the
at
the
southern.
I'm
sorry
at
the
the
western
lower
side
of
the
street,
we're
looking
at
a
a
brick
base
in
a
in
a
grayish
black
black
brick.
I
That'll
that'll
extend
the
first
three
stories
of
the
building
to
create
that
straight
wall
height,
then
stepping
up
on
the
on
the
on
the
corner
piece
with
with
brick
as
well
in
between
on
this
corner,
we're
looking
at
a
at
a
vertical
metal
panel
sort
of
infill
to
give
it
to
break
up
break
up
that
mass
and
extending
as
well
up
to
the
the
upper
piece
at
the
top
up
at
the
at
the
upper
level.
There
is
a
an
outdoor
terrace
area
area
that
looks
out
to
the
west.
I
The
the
upper
view
upper
portions
of
the
main.
The
main
elevation
would
be
a
combination
of
fiber
cement,
siding
lap,
siding
and
also
some
metal
vertical
metal
panel
infills.
F
I
It's
it's
not
we're!
Looking
at
we're
trying
to
make
this
work-
and
this
you
know
this.
This
all
has
to
do
with
the
with
the
great
change
and,
as
you
can
see,
the
sidewalk
does
come
down
pretty
quickly,
we're
really
hoping
to
try
to
create
some
kind
of
walk
out
spaces,
but
because
of
the
steep
drop,
that's
coming
down
right
now.
We're
looking
at
these.
I
Try
we're
trying
to
make
these
into
sort
of
like
a
little
walk
out
patio,
so
the
so
the
door
would
be
recessed
in
maybe
about
four
or
five
feet.
This
would
be
a
wall
that
that's
right
up
against
the
sidewalk
and
and
then
in
inside
that
you
would
have
a
sort
of
like
a
small
patio
area.
I
I
Yeah
just
trying
you
know
we're
trying
to
trying
to
create
some
kind
of
engagement
at
the
street
level
in
the
sidewalk
and
and
that's
that's
kind
of
what
we're
looking
at
right
now
is
creating
more
of
these
little.
You
know
little
little
patio
stoops
that
that
people
could
sit
out
and-
and
you
know,
be
engaging
at
the
at
the
sidewalk.
I
See
this
this
next
image
is
the
same
same
view
this
this
is.
This
is
looking
down
bunkum
street,
which
is
the
the
sort
of
the
back
alley.
That's
directly
behind
the
county
parking
deck.
So
this
this
road
runs
right
into
into
this
into
this
elevation.
I
And
just
visually
one
thing:
we
are
looking
at
again
trying
to
get
trying
to
give
some
texture
to
to
to
the
facade
where
it
may
come
up
flat,
because
you
know
this.
This
is
a
fairly
long
long
building.
So
we
are
looking
at
these
some
kind
of
element
that
that
comes
out.
That
became
becomes
somewhat
of
a
like
a
juliet
balcony
at
the
window,
just
again
just
giving
giving
some
texture
allowing
for
some
some
play
on
shadows
as
you're
as
you're
walking
down
the
street.
I
Looking
at
the
you
know
the
first
two
three
stories
of
the
building.
I
Another
image
imagery
of
the
of
the
the
metal
panel
sort
of
infill
within
the
within
the
within
the
space.
I
This
view
down
here.
This
is
from
cox
avenue,
looking
up
aston,
so
this
to
the
left
is
the
dss
building
county
building.
This
is
the
existing
building.
That's
on
our
site
right
here
and
then-
and
this
is
the
the
west
face
of
of
the
building
on
aston
street.
I
This
face-
would
have
fibers,
mostly
fiber,
cement,
siding
and
we're
looking
at
breaking
it
up
with
with
different
color
palettes
of
of
the
of
the
fiber
cement,
just
again
just
to
break
up
that
overall
monotony
of
material
and
color,
the
other
primary
view
and
to
look
at
is
from
church
street
looking
down,
and
so
we
have
a
central
methodist
church.
That's
this
right
here
on
the
corner
and
a
condo
building.
I
That's
that's
right
here
up
on
church
street,
so
trying
to
you
know,
think
about
what
what
is
what
is
that?
What
is
that
view
from
from
that
perspective,
looking
looking
down
church
and
trying
not
to
make
this
look
like
just
the
back
of
a
building
this
this
main
tower
here?
This
is
a
stair
tower
that
would
be
masonry,
so
we're
looking
at
ways
to
again
kind
of
break
up
that
that
that
monotonous,
material,
that
it
would
be
all
masonry.
I
And
so
we,
what
we're
looking
at
here,
is
either
varying
the
tones
of
the
masonry
or
something
similar
to
what
what
we're
doing,
what
the
what
the
client
is
intending
to
do
on
our
other
micro
housing
project,
which
is
over
on
hilliard
avenue,
which,
which
you
all
have
reviewed
before,
is
potentially
doing
a
mural
on
on
this
wall.
B
I
Well,
we
I
you
know
again:
murals
are
not
permanent,
so
you
know
I
I
you
got
to
think
about
what
you
know.
I
What
does
that
become
10,
15
years
down
the
line
five
years
down
the
line,
but
at
the
same
time
I
think
one
thing
our
our
clients
has
a
connection
with
is
the
is
the
the
local
artist
community
and
you
know,
is
interested
in
creating
palettes
for
these
art
artists
to
present
so
spaces
like
this
really
really
really
lend
well
to
to
that
kind
of
use.
I
Going
back
to
materials
of
of
this
facade
this
this
back
portion
of
the
of
the
building,
we're
looking
at
again
a
a
metal
metal
panel
in
those
areas,
we
are
looking
at
again
trying
to
get
some
texture.
You
know
to
to
these
faces.
I
I
So
that's
that's
kind
of
an
overview
of
the
aston
building,
so
I'll
I'll
pause
there
and
take
some
comments
on
this
building.
B
C
B
E
Brian,
mr
mr
cook,
so
on
the
on
the
aston,
the
3d
aston
view
top
right
on
the
one
you're
looking
at
right
there
yeah.
If
you
could
zoom
in
on
that
one
you're
doing
some
fun
stuff.
It
looks
like
kind
of
doing
some
subtle,
pushing
and
pulling
on
the
elevation.
E
It
looks
like
in
all
of
the
planes
that
I
can
see
right
now,
so
it
looks
like
you
know,
some
of
that.
The
block
on
the
right
you've
got
that
one
window
pattern
kind
of
pushed
in
just
a
little
bit.
The
orange
one
in
the
middle
is
pushed
in
and
then
you're
doing
this
similar
with
the
slot
and
then
on
the
the
the
I'm
assuming
that's
like
a
cementitious
fiber
panel
or
something
on
the
top
left
of
that
elevation.
E
E
I
guess
you're
doing
that
with
the
juliet's
or
something,
but
I'd
almost
like
to
see
you
play,
there's
something
you're
doing
that's
really
pleasing
to
me
on
that
right
side
block
in
in
terms
of
you're,
doing
a
modern
interpretation
of
pushing
and
pulling
on
the
facade
right,
you're
doing
it
instead
of
at
each
window,
you're
doing
it
more.
You
know
vertical
big
vertical
sections
and
doing
some
fun
stuff
there,
maybe
maybe
play
with
that
left
side
block.
Similarly,
like
that,
that
right
side
block
is
so
much
more
successful
to
me
than
the
left
side.
E
E
E
They
can
continue
the
playfulness
and
the
and
the
attention
to
detail
that
you've
put
into
this
elevation
to
the
aston
to
some
of
the
other
elevations.
I
think
in
terms
of
so
in
this
one-
and
I
understand
you
know
this
one's
looking.
You
know
we're
looking
south.
This
is
a
north
facing
elevation,
so
you
don't
need
the
sun
shades
and
and
and
and
things
like
that,
but
there's
some
subtle
things
going
on
in
terms
of
your
materials
and
and
when
you
push
and
pull
on
things.
E
The
the
bottom
left
brick
block.
I
don't
think
it's
quite
as
developed
yet
maybe
take
some
of
the
same
sensibility.
You
did
with
the
big
one
and
and
push
and
pull
on
that
one
just
a
little
bit
more
on
the
facade,
but
then
take
that
kind
of
instead
of
doing
a
flat
plane
with
just
you
know,
the
sun
shades
on
it
do
some
of
the
same
material
moves
and
pushing
and
pulling
on
that
on
on
that
elevation
to
create
those
shadow
lines
on
some
of
the
other
elevations.
I
just.
E
I
think
this
is
a
that's
that
looks
nice.
I
I
like
that.
Does
that
make
sense,
so
I
think
I
think
you're
I
I
think
this
is
a
a
more
successful
piece
on
this
side,
and
that's
first
thing
I
wanted
to
say,
and
then
you
know
how
you
treat
that
stair
tower
I've
never
liked.
E
I
don't
know
the
name
of
the
building,
but
I
love
the
building
the
the
one
I
don't
know
up
asked
them
towards
towards
the
church
from
this,
where
they
put
that
big
stair
tower
on
the
back
of
it,
so
they
can
get
up
to
the
roof
and
it's
just
a
big
box,
and
it
has
nothing
to
say
to
the
rest
of
the
building.
But
honestly,
it's
not
terrible
either
I
mean
you
know
so,
there's
something
about.
E
You
know
a
stair
tower,
looking
like
a
stair
tower
and
not
pretending
to
be
something
else,
so
that
one
side
that
you
were
saying
you
know,
maybe
you
do
that
brick.
Maybe
you
create
a
pallet,
I
think.
Maybe
you
do
a
little
bit
of
both
you
know,
so
maybe
you
play
with
it
at
the
pedestrian
level
and
then
up
above
it
becomes
a
blank
canvas
for
a
mural,
just
the
thought
there.
E
So
that's
my
I
mean
we
could
get
into
some
other
stuff,
but
but
mainly,
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
I
thought
that
aston
street
elevation
and
the
way
that
you've
played
with
the
materials
and
pushed
and
pulled
very
in
a
very
subtle
manner
on
the
on
the
facade
is
successful
and
I'd
like
to
see
more
of
it.
I
Great
well,
thank
you,
mr
moffat.
Well,
definitely,
some
great
comments
and
we'll
definitely
kind
of
take
those
back
to
the
to
our
our
drawing
board
and
see
what
what
we
can
incorporate.
C
Thank
you
yeah.
I
I
actually
I
I
like
this
building
a
lot
too.
I
think
you
guys
are
doing
some
artful
things
with
it
and
there
are
some
subtle
details
that
they're
just
really
nice
to
see
on
the
comment
on
the
elevations,
I
would
say
that
for
the
next
one,
just
do
something:
that's
line
just
line
drawings.
C
What
I
you
know,
what
I
really
want
to
see
is
I
I
don't
want
the
the
the
texture
you
know
when
I
zoom
into
the
pdfs.
They
you
get
all
the
the
artifacts
and
the
resolution
breaks
down,
and
so
it's
a
little
bit
hard
to
see
what
the
detailing
is
really
doing,
because
which
leads
me
into
my
point
about
you
know
some
of
the
stuff
that
you
guys
are
doing
with
the
metal
panel
and
so
those
subtle
changes
in
sorry,
not
metal
panel.
This
is
a
cementitious
board.
C
This
sort
of
you
know
changes
in
color
and
texture
that
are,
you
know,
really
nice
and
give
a
lot
of
movement
to
that
facade.
I'd
like
to
see
some
of
that,
you
know
happening
on
the
brick
as
well.
You
know,
as
far
as
I
can
tell
the
brick
is
just
sort
of
running
bond
all
over
and
I
think
you're
missing
a
really
really
great
opportunity,
and
you
know
doing
some
of
that
same
artful
playfulness
that
you
have
on
the
lighter
panels
or
lighter
planes
incorporate
that
into
the
brick.
C
You
know
it
can't
do
the
same
thing.
Obviously
it's
a
different
material,
but
it
just
there's
a
there's,
a
really
nice
there's
a
really
nice
gentle
hand.
I
think,
working
though
those
patterns
and
I'd
like
to
see
that
on
the
brick
as
well
and
then
those
it
it'd
be
it'd,
be
fun
to
see
the
mass
react
to
some
of
that
movement
as
well.
C
I
know
that
that
you
know
creates
some
complications,
but
you
know,
for
example,
on
that
north
elevation,
where
you've
got
you
know
these
bands
that
are
running
up
and
down.
You
know
kind
of
meandering.
You
know
between
those
windows,
you
know
what
you
know.
Could
that
roofline
do
something
that
responds
to
that
movement
again,
not
that's
it's
nitpicking,
because
I
think
that
there's
you
know,
there's
nice
things
going
on
on
the
facade
and
it'd
be
it'd.
C
Be
nice
to
see
the
massing
respond
to
that
as
well,
a
little
bit
more,
which
might
help
with
bringing
in
you
know,
brian's
comment
and
then
that
that
stair
tower
you
know,
that's
if
you,
if
you're
doing
masonry
there
it.
C
Maybe
maybe
these
patterns
that
you
have
you
know
the
masonry
can
go
in
and
out,
and
so
you
know
become
this
sort
of
texture
wall
that
isn't
just
you
know,
texture
of
masonry,
but
also
you
know
these
blocks
and
and
bands
that
you're
creating
with
the
masonry
having
them
actually
come.
You
know
in
and
out
and
create
recesses
and
shadow
lines,
and
you
know
cast
shadows
and
let
light
through,
and
also
I
mean
why.
Why
not
put
some
windows
on
it?
C
And
you
know
you,
you
have
a
you
know
it's
a
stair
that
hopefully
will
get
used
a
lot.
If
it
has
windows,
maybe
it
gets
used
even
more.
You
know
just
a
narrow
window.
So
as
you
step
onto
the
onto
the
landing,
you
know
you're
you're
seeing
light
through
and
then
you
can
move
through
the
stair,
and
you
know
you
get
some
natural
light
into
a
stair
and
you
know
have
that
connection
as
you
step
in
and
out
of
it.
C
But
it
can
also
be
something
that
helps
you
with
the
with
the
texture,
and
you
know,
texture
and
pattern
on
the
on
the
facade,
because
I
honestly,
I
think
it
would
be.
I
think
it
would
be
a
shame
to
make
that
a
mural,
because
you
you
have
already
you
have
things
that
are
already
pretty
wonderful
happening
there
and,
and
you
can
make
it
even
better
and
make
make
it
so
that
nobody
would
ever
want
to
put
a
mural
there.
I
Great
thank
you
yeah,
as
as
far
as
as
far
as
windows
on
that
elevation
that
that
that
side
of
the
stairwell
is
right
at
the
property
line.
So
unless
we
did
fire
rated
glass
which
we
we
don't
want
to
do,
unfortunately,
we
can't
get
can't
get
any
windows
on
that
elevation.
F
Yeah
hi
brian,
I
really
like
this
building
is
broken
up
and
you
don't
just
have
one
massive
structure,
but
I
think
there's
some
missed
opportunities
like
where
you
see
the
existing
building
in
the
top
elevation,
the
aston
street
buncombe
street,
where
you're
just
looking
through
this
corridor
between
the
buildings-
and
you
see
just
white,
I'm
wondering
if
you
could
break
up
the
facade
there,
maybe
to
start
to
show
those
axes
and
I
think,
there's
a
couple
more
opportunities
to
do
that.
F
F
Yeah,
so
I
think
there's
some
opportunities
where
you
see
those
peek-throughs
to
change
the
color
of
the
facade
or
to
make
some.
I
don't
know
just
something
interesting
where
you,
where
you
get
those
visibility,
since
the
buildings
are
broken
up
and
create
these
interesting
perspectives
and
viewpoints
peeking
through
and
then.
The
other
comment
that
I
have,
which
I
also
made
last
time,
is.
F
I
think
I
wonder
if
there's
a
way
that
you
could
create
more
of
a
pedestrian,
just
friendliness
where
the
existing
building
is
where
you
have
the
wall,
it
just
seems
really
kind
of
unfriendly
at
the
moment.
So
those
are
my
comments.
F
F
F
I
Yeah
what's
happening
there
is
that
there
is
an
existing
overhead
door
and
loading
area.
That's
right
here:
okay,.
I
Trying
to
maintain
that
again,
not
knowing
who
the
tenant
might
be,
but
you
know
they
are
looking
for
potential
brewers,
and
you
know
that
that
would
be
something
that
that
would
probably
be
one
that
you
know
needed
for
for
use.
So
that's
where
we're
trying
to
maintain
that.
F
F
I
B
J
Brian,
this
isn't
design
related
so
much
as
it
is
location
related.
I
just
wanted
to
swag
that
this
particular
area
is
where
we
get
the
most
noise
ordinance
complaints.
I
Yeah
we
we
got
some
of
those
comments
from
I
think
in
our
neighborhood,
our
neighborhood
meeting,
and
I
know
that
I
mean
you
know,
there's
there's,
there's
two
faces
of
this
building
that
will
be
directly
overlooking
rabbit,
rabbit,
two
blocks
away
so
or
one
one
yeah
two
blocks
away
so
yeah.
That's
that's
something
we're
definitely
looking
at
and
and
seeing
what
we
can
do
as
far
as
you
know,
with
what
types
of
windows
to
use.
I
E
What
one
last
thing
sorry,
I
should
have
raised
my
hand,
sorry
street,
looking
north
you,
you
you've,
got
a
couple
of
pretty
big
blank
walls
next
sheet,
whoever
a
z10
yeah,
the
bottom
left
one.
So
you've
got
the
three
big
blank
wall
or
three
or
four
big
blank
walls
without
any
kind
of
fun
detailing
going
on
in
the
material
of
those.
E
I
know
those
are
close
to
the
property
line
and
that
you're
limited-
and
you
can't
really
finish
trade-
those,
but
we're
gonna-
need
to
see
some
some
kind
of
attention
paid
to
those.
So
maybe
once
you
work
out
some
other
things
you
can
you
know
it's
still
back
a
house,
but
it
it
needs
to
it's
a
good
building.
Don't
leave
it
alone.
I
Yeah,
that's
that
that
is,
I
mean
you're
right,
it's
you
know,
because,
obviously
that's
that's!
That's
the
view
you're
gonna
see
from
sawyer.
I
mean
the
county
owns
this.
This
parking
lot,
that's
right
here.
Something
may
go
in
there
in
the
future,
but
but
same
time.
Yes,
you
know.
We
definitely
want
to
we'll
want
to
look
at
that
more
and
make
sure
that
we've
got
some
good
treatment.
So
it
does
not
look
like
just
the
back
of
a
building.
I
Yeah
absolutely
yeah,
and
then
just
I
mean
just
real
quick.
You
know
this.
This
is
the
this
is
the
other
building
sawyer
and
you
know
we're
we're
trying
to
treat
these
buildings
more
like
cousins
and
not
not
siblings.
So
they
have.
You
know
similar
materials,
but
not
the
same.
You
know
same
arrangements
so
that
they
do.
You
know
they
do
kind
of
act
as
their
own
own
own,
build
own
self
and
own
buildings.
I
So
again,
this
building
brick
base
again,
that's
that's
similar
to
the
other
building
metal,
siding
at
the
corner
in
a
different
different
tone,
different
different
arrangement
and
then
and
then
again,
more
of
a
fiber
cement
at
the
at
the
main,
the
main
face
of
the
building.
I
So
that's
there's
a
close-up
view
with
that,
and
I
mean
again
with
that
building
again
we're
looking
at
some
sort
of
articulation
with
with
with
sun
shades
with
potential
color
to
give
just,
you
know
again
give
some
play
on
that
generally
flat
facade.
E
E
I
I
Yeah
yeah
we're
not
quite
there
yet
you
know,
while
while
we
as
a
design
team,
are
looking
at
this,
as
you
know,
as
as
the
three
buildings
and
the
spaces
in
between
you
know,
the
client
is
separating
each
of
these
parcels.
They'll
have
different
ownerships.
So
there
is,
you
know
there
is
there's
some
overlap
on.
You
know
what
is
sort
of
public.
You
know
public
realm
versus
private
generally,
it
is
all
private,
but
we
are.
I
We
are
looking
at
creating
some
kind
of
hardscape
pavement
with
some
landscaping
along
this
property
line
that
connects
to
the
back
of
the
back
of
the
sawyer
building,
which
would
then
have
an
outdoor
patio
area
and
potential
like
back
door
entrance
for
for
that
building.
So
so
we
we,
hopefully
we
should
have
by
the
next
next
next
time
we
present
to
you
well
we'll
see
if
we
can
we'll
make
sure
to
have
have
more
of
a
landscape
and
and
site
plan
for
you
all
to
see.
E
Yeah,
because
I
you
know
the
building
up
on
the
corner
over
here
at
the
corner
of
aston
and
church,
has
that
wonderful,
little
kind
of
private
yard
for
for
their
residents.
E
You
know,
and
I
don't
get
to
use
it,
but
I
get
to
look
at
it
as
I
walk
by
and
I
like
it,
you
know
I
like
that.
That's
private,
the
church
presbyterian
church
has
the
little
spot
for
their
their
their
pre-k
thing.
So
you
know
I
could
see
you
creating
some
stuff
just
for
the
residents
that
were
still.
G
F
F
Okay,
because
it
looks
like
like
that,
sawyer
street
elevation
there's
a
row
of
windows,
the
one
you're
on
yeah,
that
on
the
where
you
see
the
pass
through,
there's
a
row
of
windows
going
up.
I
Yeah
we're
just
we're
just
not
seeing
the
other
the
other
side
of
this
elevation.
F
I
B
I
Yeah.
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
all
your
time,
so
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
the
the
comments
and
we
look
forward
to
coming
back
to
you.
B
Right
will
do
we
have
any
future
discussion
topics
or
anybody
on
the
committee.
Is
there
anything
that
anyone
would
like
to
discuss.
B
Okay,
no
is
there
any
public
comment
for
any
other
issues?