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From YouTube: Downtown Commission – April 14, 2023
Description
Regular meeting of the City of Asheville Downtown Commission.
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A
C
A
Would
like
to
welcome
you
to
the
meeting
of
the
Asheville
downtown
commission
for
April
14th
2023,
the
Asheville
downtown
commission
was
created
by
the
city
council
for
the
sustainability
and
continued
development
of
downtown
a
vital
Urban
Center
of
Western
North
Carolina's
economic,
cultural
investor
activity.
The
downtown
commission
provides
city
council
with
recommendations
on
downtown
policies
and
initiatives.
In
addition,
downtown
Commissioners
currently
fill
three
out
of
nine
seats
of
the
city's
design,
Review
Committee,
which
reviews
development
projects
within
the
central
business
district,
the
river
arts
district
and
the
hotel
projects
outside
of
those
areas.
B
A
A
Anyone
out
there
with
us
today
welcome
this
time.
I
will
go
through
and
introduce
all
our
committee
members
as
I.
Do
the
roll
call.
Please
say
a
quick
hello
and
I
would
like
to
welcome
Nur
Edwards
and
Eva
Michelle
Spicer,
our
new
city
appointees
and
Megan
Rogers.
She
is
technically
our
new
County
appointee,
but
she
served
with
us
before
as
the
Asheville
Downtown.
B
E
F
A
Very
good
Avery
asks,
or
someone
maybe
Ricardo
asked
me
to
remember.
You
all
did
great
but
remember
to
speak
into
the
microphones.
We
can
hear
each
other,
but
we
are
streaming
and
it's
helpful
if
we
speak
into
the
microphones
when
we
speak
so
everybody
else
can.
A
Yes
sounds
good,
you
wanna,
everybody
want
to
do
a
sound
check
that
was
fun
all
right
to
help
our
audience.
Follow
along
I
will
state
each
section
of
the
agenda
aloud
and
we
will
move
on.
First
item
is
our
approval
of
minutes.
You
should
have
had
an
opportunity
to
look
at
our
draft
action
minutes
from
our
March
10th
meeting.
Are
there
any
comments
or
revisions
to
the
draft
action
minutes.
A
A
Thank
you
so
much
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye,
any
opposed,
wonderful,
we'll
keep
going.
We
do
not
have
any
public
comment
submitted
prior
to.
Is
that
correct.
L
A
Correct
and
we
will
just
address
any
public
comment
as
we
go
in
person,
so
we
have
two
main
items
of
business:
our
project
review
for
Carter,
Street
hotel
and
then
we're
going
to
discuss
our
upcoming
special
safety
meeting.
For
excuse
me,
special
meeting
for
Public
Safety,
so
I
think
clay
Mitchell
is
going
to
present
the
Carter
Street
project
you
have
before
sir
yeah.
H
My
name
is
Clay
Mitchell
I
work
with
will
Palmquist
in
the
current
planning.
What
we
have
here
is,
let
me
something
up
here.
H
What
we
have
here
is
a
very
slow
computer
as
it
loads
the
image
of
the
hotel
facility.
This
is
between
Carter
and
Ann
Street.
There
you
go.
That's
the
first
floor,
I'm
gonna,
see
if
I
can
get
a
picture.
H
The
if
you're,
familiar
with
area
where
the
Embassy
Suites,
Hotel
I,
believe
is
being
built,
is
across
the
street
and
to
the
south
of
that
there's,
currently
a
parking
lot
there
that
is
fenced
with
vertical
metal.
Fencing
you've
probably
seen
it.
This
is
an
eight-story
building.
It's
been
through
the
technical,
Review
Committee.
We've
received
resubmission
comments
and
responding
to
our
concerns,
and
this
is
scheduled
for
the
design
review
commission
next
week.
So
this
is
an
eight-story
building.
H
It
has
two
stories
of
parking
six
stories
of
Hotel
use
and
then
two
stories
of
residential
uses
on
the
seventh
and
eighth
floor
and
then
on
the
top
is
a
rooftop
Deck
with
a
restaurant
eating
and
drinking
establishment.
There
are
also
there
is
any
eating
and
drinking
and
activation
for
the
hotel
lobby.
Down
on
the
first
floor
on
Carter
Street
in
the
main
entrance
to
the
hotel
is
on
Carter
Street.
The
residential
entrance
is
actually
on
Ann
Street
and
the
new
plans
are
now
showing
leasable
space.
H
On
the
first
floor,
which
was
a
response
to
the
TRC
meeting
to
to
create
activation
along
and
Street,
what
you
see
is
compliant
10
foot
wide
sidewalks
Street
trees
on
Carter
Street.
The
street
trees
can
be
large
with
Turing
trees
because
there
are
no
utilities
on
Ann
Street,
there's
utility
lines
going
down
the
End
Street,
so
those
are
the
smaller
material
trees
and
that's
why
you
see
the
different
sizes
on
the
plants.
So
let.
B
K
K
I
K
J
Asking
clay
requires
that.
H
50
of
the
ground
floor
is
activated,
yeah
correct
it
does
and
it
is
allowed
to
be
aggregated
between
the
frontages
and
so
what
you're
seeing
here
is
Carter
Street
facade.
So
this
is
the
hotel
entrance
sag
the
building
masses
onto
Carter
Street
you'll,
see
that
it
it
has
a
lower
connection
to
Ann
Street.
It
has
the
street
wall
at
two
floors,
which
is
required
in
the
central
business
district
and
then
a
step
back
and
then
the
remaining
of
the
building
going
up
vertically.
This
is
floor
plans
of
the
two
levels
of
parking.
H
This
is
the
first
floor
again,
Carter
Street
to
the
south
of
the
plants
see
the
kind
of
vehicle
entrance.
There's
a
small
roundabout.
There
will
be
valet
parking
and
then
that
will
get
the
cars
down
below
on
the
back.
The
yellow
area
is
part
of
the
hotel
activation
and
actually
below.
That
is
where
the
leasable
retail
space
is
going
to
be
on
Ann
Street
and
then,
as
we
carry
up
through
the
building.
These
are
just
the
floor.
Plans
you'll
see.
G
G
On
about
50
yeah,
if
it's
okay
go
ahead,
so
the
the
50
requirement
is
that
that
it's
actually
activated
or
that
it's
reserved
for
activation.
H
M
G
H
K
G
G
B
K
H
This
is
located
in
the
central
business
district
in
the
hotel
overlay,
which
entitles
applicants
to
secure,
what's
called
a
level
two
review,
which
means
it
does
not
go
to
the
city
council
for
conditional
zoning
as
long
as
it's
below
a
115
rooms
or
below
and
I
believe,
there's
a
couple
other
triggering
points,
and
it
that
includes
compliance
with
the
public
benefits
table,
which
is
secures
some
type
of
either
green
certification
for
the
building
contributions
to
reparations
or
housing
funds.
H
And
if,
if
the
applicants
go
through
that
process,
they
then
don't
have
to
appear
before
the
council
for
conditional
zoning.
So
that's
that's
why
this
is
in
this
process.
The
other
tr
unique
treatment
is,
is
that
these
applications
are
required
to
to
appear
to
the
design
or
the
the
design
committee
and
also
get
an
affirmative
vote
from
that
committee,
which
is
different.
Normally,
it's
mandatory
appearance,
voluntary.
H
Have
provided
that
in
the
first
part,
very
good,
so
what
you're?
Looking
at
here
kind
of
you
know,
contextual
elevations,
in
starting
at
the
lower
right,
is
from
the
south
looking
up
Carter
Street.
So
this
is
the
the
kind
of
Main
Hotel
Frontage.
The
entrance
is
at
the
top.
Where
that
that
traffic
circle
underneath
the
building
is
you
can
see
the
elements?
Be
you
cannot
you
can?
You
can
actually
see
the
difference
between
the
hotel
uses
and
the
residential
uses?
H
The
residential
uses
have
open
decks,
whereas
the
hotel,
we
can't
trust,
Hotel
residents
to
have
access
to
outside
and
then
on
the
top.
You
can
see
the
what
what
is
the
back
more
or
less
but
there's
Windows
of
the
restaurant
deck
the
restaurant
deck
will
be
most
will
be
open
to
the
South,
where
the
views
are
most
prominent
on
the
the
top.
H
Two
images
are
Ann
Street,
so
you
can
see
the
southern
part
of
Ann
Street
is
the
entrance
to
the
residential
portion
of
the
parking
and
the
site,
and
then
you
can
see
the
activated
space
on
the
first
floor
is
the
leasable
space
and
kind
of
on
the
second
floor
is
I.
Think
it's
conference,
it's
shown
as
conference
rooms
on
the
plan.
B
H
On
top
of
that,
I
believe
is
outdoor
amenities
for
both
the
hotel
and
the
residents
and
that's
kind
of
the
building.
There
questions
and
I
looked
at
your
Matrix
that
you
use
and
to
the
extent
that
I
felt
comfortable,
providing
you
kind
of
objective
observations
about
the
materials
submitted.
How
that
comports,
with
your
Matrix
and
other
things,
which
are
entirely
discretionary
and
and
defer
to
your
expertise,
I
left
out
of
the
question,
so
any
comments
that
you
have
or
concerns
I
will
take
back
to
Will
and
we'll
discuss
that
with
the
design.
Review
Committee.
A
For
our
new
new
members,
just
to
reiterate
you
can
this.
N
A
Is
just
a
way
to
kind
of
go
through
some
of
the
things
that
we
generally
talk
about?
You
can
bring
up
anything
you
want.
We
will
specifically
address
the
design
at
the
designer
view
committee
next
week,
but
if
you
see
things
in
the
design
like
you're
like,
why
is
this
facade
so
long
and
the
same
or
whatever
it
is?
A
A
Right
you.
M
B
M
Just
sort
of
a
general
comment:
how
do
we
or
how
do
we
deal
with
that
from
a
from
you
know
not
in
its
particular
case,
but
there
are
cases
that
way
where
the
topography
and
the
intention
are
sort
of
an
opposition
to
that
ground.
Floor
activation.
M
B
M
No
I
do
support
the
activation,
but,
but
you
know
compliance
is
a
letter
which
is
great
may
also.
You
know,
may
only
exist
on
the
high
side
of
a
building.
A
And
they're
on
the
low
side
clay,
can
you
pull
up
a
200
in
the
revised
sheet,
just
scroll
to
that
when
you
scroll
back
down
and
show
that
main
I
think
it's
Carter
sheet
the
other
way
other
way.
Sorry
they've
got
a
diagram,
keep
going
A200,
one
more
or
two
that
one
right
there,
this
one
yeah
that
one
so
that
one's
no
one
more
I'm.
A
There
so
that
one
shows
I
think
what
Andrew's
talking
about.
If
this
building
were,
you
know
along
Biltmore
Avenue,
which
goes
down,
and
we
had
50
foot
blocks.
Every
piece
of
that
would
work
to
activate
the
pedestrian
entrance
right
so
that,
on
the
on
the
left
hand,
side
of
the
image
you
know
where
it's
getting
basically
below
the
main.
I
I
A
B
A
N
K
K
B
K
Of
a
footprint
right,
so
that's
where
the
idea
came
from
and
I
we
hit
a
lot
of
pushback
on
100
because
is
I.
Think
I
mean
if
someone
in
construction
myself,
there
are
some
utilities
and
stuff
that
are
often
not
there
and
need
to
be
there
for
design
reasons.
So
the
the
medium
was
50,
but
it
could
always
be
tweaked
and
stuff.
It
probably
is
a
greater
process
of
the
ordinance
review.
Well.
M
M
Kind
of
what
we
have
in
this
case,
so
this
is
just
a
place.
I
think
you
know.
While
we
can,
you
can
get
compliance
out
of
this
to
the
letter
of
the
law.
M
We
may
be
missing
something
as
far
as
that
sidewalk
activation
for
the
extent
of
the
building,
you
know
long
and
a
long
block
with
a
with
a
real
grade,
and
so
this
may
be
something
that
be
something
of
could
be
tweaked
in
the
future
to
get
better
to
get
our
outcomes
to
better
line
up
with
our
intentions,
but
I
I
mean
I'm
so,
but
in
this
case
I
mean
I
can
see
that
they
are
compliant
with.
B
M
That
is
your
ground
floor
is
actually
around
here
and
it
would
be
like
the
third
story.
Second
or
third
story.
At
least
you
know
the
farther
you
go
across
that
hill,
so
I,
that
is
yeah
a
function
of
the
length
of
the
building
and
our
topography.
M
A
A
Well,
do
we
have
any
other
questions
for
for
staff
regarding
this,
so
we've
got
to
at
least
a
concern.
B
A
The
application
is
meeting
the
letter
of
the
law
regarding
the
50
Street
activation,
whether
it's
meeting
the
the
spirit
is
a
different
question.
I.
K
K
A
A
You
get
restrictions
on
how
much
finished
openings
you
can
do
close
to
a
lot
line.
You
know,
because
you
expose
the
building
and
other
buildings
to
danger
to
itself.
That's
a
building
code
requirement
so
a
lot
of
times
when
they
push
them
up
to
the
lot
line,
but
I
don't
understand
all
of
it.
That
way,
and
even
when
it's
not
even
when
you
don't
necessarily
have
openings,
there
are
things
you
can
do
architecturally
other
than
a
blank
wall.
H
B
A
She
didn't
really
fill
out.
Is
there
are
several
in
here
that
you
again
you
you
told
us
what
the
you
know:
alignment
with
a
parking
multimodal
Economic
Development.
We
talked
about
that
a
little
bit.
Livability
is
kind
of
up
in
the
air
for
me,
because
we
all
know
that
those
residential
units
on
the
upper
floors
are
probably
not
going
to
be
sold
to
that's
for
a
different
clientele
than
most
of
the
people
that
live
in
the
city
of
Asheville.
Currently,
yes,.
A
What
what,
if
anything,
are
they
doing
regarding
any
kind
of
sustainability
goals?
They.
B
H
H
K
L
A
B
K
K
H
A
Of
those
are
those
are
yes,
correct,
Public
Safety,
so
our
APD
has
offered
to
kind
of
review
plans
for
public
safety
items.
Is
my
understanding
am
I,
remembering
that
right
do.
A
It's
located
on
on
that
part
of
town
that
seems
to
me
that
would
be
a
pretty.
This
would
be
one.
We
would
really
want
to
see
the
developer
do
that
with
APD.
M
You
know
again
sort
of
going
after
the
global.
You
know
look
at
whether
our
you
know
our
zoning
rules
getting
us
getting
us
land,
use
policies
and
land.
These
outcomes
that
that
are
that
we
like
that
are
good,
I,
can't
think
of
any
level
two
projects
that
have
been
built
in
the
hotel
overlay
other
than
hotels
and
at
some
point,
that
that's.
K
M
M
That
was
one
of
those
concerns
I
had
with
the
map
is
that
are
we
going
to
get
anything
other
than
hotels
and
if
we
are
then
I
think
that
that's?
That
is
a
that
is
a
positive
I,
still
think
the
map
is
a
little
too
big
and
I'd
like
to
make
it
more
of
a
jack-o'-lantern
than
it
currently
is,
but
did.
K
I
K
M
A
So
so
far,
we've
had
a
discussion
about
the
activation
or
the
the
50
percent
habitable
commercial
space.
We've
talked
about
the
kind
of
two
blank
ends
of
the
building
they
designed
the
front
the
back,
but
not
the
sides
we've
talked
about
you
know.
I
I
see
some
Public
Safety
things
that
I'd
like
to
know
how
they're
addressing
I
don't
know
how
they're
doing
any
kind
of
side
lighting
how
they're
lighting
there's
no
lighting
shown
on
the
front
of
the
building
for
the
front
sidewalk
I'd
like
to
see
you
know
something
addressing
that.
K
A
Our
current
guidelines,
don't
don't
call
for
side
lighting,
really
have
any
standards.
N
N
B
D
Yeah
I
had
a
question.
I
think
this
is
appropriate.
Is
this
developer
build
anything
in
Asheville
before
that
we
know
of
any
other
hotels
or.
H
B
N
D
Of
I
think
so
we
know
that
that's
going
to
be
a
big
issue
at
design
review.
D
My
only
other
comment
is
that
once
again,
our
site
and
the
way
this
impacts,
the
general
public
in
the
public
room-
is
meeting
absolute
bare
minimum
standards.
There
are
standards
and
they
appear
to
be
meeting
them,
but
we
see
what
the
product
is
with
that
when
buildings.
D
Meet
those
the
spaces
or
The
Pedestrian
spaces
are
dead,
I'd
love
to
do
a
walk
around
downtown
and
look
at
these
dead
spaces,
but
building
Hits,
10
foot,
concrete
sidewalk
Street
done-
and
this
is
a
Oda
architecture-
is
a
Powerhouse
firm
and
they
do
phenomenal
work,
and
this
is
definitely
not
anything.
That's
trying
to
be
special
and
I
encourage
everybody
to
kind
of
reach
out
to
design
review.
If
you
have
some
specific
thoughts
about.
A
Nowhere
to
sit
there's
very
little
Greenery
and
I
would
just
say
that
chime
in
with
that,
from
from
a
design
perspective
as
soon
as
you
zoom
in
past
the
building
facade,
you
see
the
organization
and
the
detail,
but
as
soon
as
you
zoom
in
past
the
entire
facade
to
The
Pedestrian
level,
the
detail's
gone,
there's
just
not
enough
there
and.
D
This
is
this
is
at
the
top
of
a
very
challenged
and
troubled
stormwater
conveyance
area.
We
know
that
the
city
is
investing
a
lot
of
money
and
bringing
this
back
online
and
and
working
on
it,
but
it's
at
the
very
top
of
a
historically
challenged
storm
waterway
that
works
its
way
into
clingman
forest
and
again
bare
minimum
standards
are
being
met,
and
you
know
what
I'm
talking
about
most
of
you
green
roof,
but
seriously.
C
D
I
think
there
needs
to
be
discussion
about
that.
Do
we
do
we,
you
know,
do
we
accept
the
bare
minimum
standard
and
you
know
a
nice
glitzy
new
hotel
that
looks
really
great
and
clean
for
a
couple
of
years
and
then
what's
it
going
to
look
like
and
be
like
in
10
years.
A
And
that
goes
back
into
the
you
know:
alignment
with
downtown
master
plan
and
living
actual
plan.
You
know
we
want
more
than
minimum
standards.
C
M
You
know
I
think
the
the
when
you're
looking
at
hotels,
specifically
because
they're
the
beneficiaries
of
you
know
a
40
million
dollar
advertising
budget
every
year.
They
that
is
such
a.
B
M
To
their
their
profit
models
that
when
you're
looking
at
these,
these
bigger
asks,
like
the
great
groups
and
things
like
that,
you
know
it-
they
can
support
it
and
they're
getting
support
from
another
Direction,
so
I
it
is
that
particular
industry
is
already
getting
so
much
benefit
from
government
programs
out
there
that
when
you're
looking
at
saying,
can
we
get
these
types
of
things
that
are
more
expensive
and
have
public
benefit
they
do
they
can
of
all
Industries.
They
can
support
it.
M
The
most
so
I
I
would
absolutely
encourage
you
guys
to
turn
the
screws
to
get
some
better
public.
D
K
K
K
L
A
Want
spaces
that
people
inhabit
and
and
to
be
in
not
just
sidewalks
that
people
pass
by
occasionally
that's
at
least
part
of
it
I
mean
there's
a
there's,
a
lot
more
to
it.
I
think
and
I
I
don't
have
enough
information
to
answer
your
question.
L
A
M
E
M
K
Number
of
rooms
I
think
it.
It.
A
K
A
I
K
H
A
A
A
B
D
Yeah,
so
do
we
know
if
the
design,
team
and
developer
are
going
to
be
showing
in
person
to
design
review.
H
This
yeah,
but
I
I,
assume
I
I,
have
not
been
here
long
enough
to
see,
but
a
couple
design
review
committee
meetings,
Okay
and
the
design
teams
have
always
been
present.
All
right.
D
So
personally,
I
would
definitely
recommend
they
be
here.
There's
going
to
be
a
lot
better
engagement
and
feedback,
it's
going
to
be
very
difficult
to
do
it
online
with
them
noted.
K
Is
this
a102
sheet
the
only
footprint
level
we
have
for
the
hotels
it
doesn't
even
identify
them
as
hotels,
but
I'm
looking
at
I
wanted
to
see
the
footprint
because
for
the
design,
Review
Committee,
one
of
the
things
I
always
think
about
in
these
long-term
things-
is
that
the
long-term
plan
is?
Is
it
even
convertible
to
housing
later
or
is
that
a
ordeal
like
when
you're
looking
at
the
designs,
I,
don't
see
any
real
designs
for
the
hotel
rooms?
I
just
see
one
aerial
there.
H
H
L
H
K
D
M
M
Is
in
The
Matrix
because
that
is
to
me
on-site
is
way
more
valuable
because
that's
you
know,
that's
that's
where
we
we
need
our
Workforce
to
be
where
our
work
is,
and
you
know
if
we
get
affordable
housing
money
from
this
and
we're
spending
it
in
South
Asheville
that
my
great
be
great
overall
numbers
perspective,
but
I
know
you
know,
how
is
it
treating?
What
does
it
do
to
traffic
and-
and
you
know
commute
times
and
all
this.
N
A
Well,
I
think
we
need
to
wrap
this
up.
Are
there
any
other
comments
or
or
questions
to
staff
that
they
can
report
back
to
the
applicant?
K
K
Just
just
for
the
sake
of
this
group
to
have
a
full
discussion
on
the
impacts,
because
this
is
the
only
time
this
group
will
see
it.
B
K
That
it
might
be
important
to
know
some
of
the
things
that
we
didn't
know
like
who
did
they
donate
to
and
are
they
looking
at
affordable
housing?
Those
are
the
impacts,
I
think
this
was.
This
commission
is
more
concerned
with
and.
H
I,
certainly
don't
want
to,
you
know,
jump
out
off
the
rails
of
what
I
actually
know,
but
I
mean
the
the.
When
I
looked
at
the
public
benefits
table
and
there's
no
distinction
and
I'm,
not
sure
it
says
housing,
slash
reparations,
so
I
don't
know
who
determines
which
direction?
Oh,
they
do.
Okay,
yeah.
We.
A
They
yeah
so
we're
still
following
our
footing
on
this
I
bet,
they're
listening.
A
Don't
take
a
vote
to
approve
at.
H
A
This
we
just
you
know
we
communicate
back
to
staff
who
communicates
back
to
the
developer,
but.
A
A
K
H
B
D
B
A
J
I'll,
just
chime
in
a
little
bit
appreciate
the
discussion.
I
think
the
what
has
what
is
now
part
of
the
development
Hotel
development
review
process
includes
these
public
benefit
type
options
for
developers
to
pick
and
choose
from,
and
the
intent
part
of
the
intention
behind
that
is
to
kind
of
de-politicize.
J
Some
of
these
discussion
points
not
to
say
that
they're
not
valid,
but
so
that
there's
more
predictability
more
guaranteed
benefit
in
these
ways
at
I.
Think
there's
still
room
to
consider
improvements
to
the
process
so
definitely
hear
where
you
all
are
coming
from
today
and
it's
something
we
can
talk
about.
But
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
you
know
every
project
isn't
going
to
city
council
and
a
lot
of
these
discussion
points
are
those
more
kind
of
like
negotiation,
political.
M
M
A
Up
so
so
so
to
that
point,
maybe
tall
and
others,
maybe
what
we
need
to
do
is
make
sure
that
we
are
communicating
anything
that
can
impact
the
design
Public
Safety,
if
there's
things
that
can
align
better
with
the
living
Asheville
plan.
For
example,
we
want,
you
know
a
a
much
better
landscape.
M
N
B
A
A
A
B
K
Mean
I,
wonder
if
too,
if
they
were
just
professionally
ask
if
they
would
simply
attend,
maybe
they
didn't.
You
know
this
isn't
a
required
review
like
we're
talking
about
it,
because
we
want
to
right,
but
it's
not
a
requirement
in
their
process,
so
I
wonder
they
probably
still
come
I
think
they
would
yeah
I,
think
that
I
mean
I
think
most
would
really
frankly,
they
may
not
even
know
what's
happening.
Can.
G
We
recommend
it
in
the
application,
like
should
that
be
part
of
the
application
process
is
through
checking
all
the
OtterBoxes
and
they
at
least
see
that
there
is
hey.
Are
you
attending?
Are
you
planning
on
attending
this?
Yes
now,
and
they
can
make
a
decision,
or
at
least
they
know
that
they
have
the
options
with.
L
L
B
M
Guess
the
issue
that
you'd
have
this
is
a
chicken
egg
issues
like
you
talk
about
the
impacts.
First,
you
talk
about
the
design
first,
they
seem
so
they
seem
very
inextricably
linked
to
me.
So
it
would
be
hard
to
decide
which
comes
first.
M
N
M
G
K
Don't
think
that's
going
to
happen
guys,
but
I
fought
pretty
hard
at
first
to
preserve
design
here
and
I
was
kind
of
the
stickler
and
I
honestly
I've
changed
my
mind
since
it's
happened,
I
think
the
design
Review
Committee
has
gone
above
and
beyond
anything
I
ever
saw
the
downtown
commission
do
as
a
group.
K
The
Excellence
at
that
table
is
remarkable,
so
I
wouldn't
currently
support
it.
Going
back
now
that
I've
learned
and
I
say
that
as
someone
who
was
staunchly
opposed
in
the
beginning
and
I
mean
it's
been
incredible,
what
design
review
has
done
so
I
think?
What
we
have
here,
though,
is
a
semblance
of
both
being
possible
and
that
half
of
your
design
review
board
is
on
this
committee
and
I
fought
for
that
as
well
and
for
Council
to
appoint
those
people
rather
than
being
appointed
by
the
own
committee
and
the
goal.
K
There
was
to
make
sure
that
this
body
still
had
the
ability
to
have
this
conversation
and
defeat
ideas
to
the
design
review.
I,
don't
know
that
council
is
even
looking
at
opening
up
the
hotel,
ordinance
I
think
it
would
take
a
myriad
recommendations
on
design,
and
you
know
some
kind
of
changes
for
us
to
reopen
it.
But
I
hear
you
and
it
was
a
long
thought
out
process,
but.
G
B
K
N
B
K
G
M
C
But
to
the
earlier
point
about,
if,
if.
B
C
C
You
know
do
something
with
teeth
on
the
impacts
and
then
let
the
sign
the
design
or
we
can
pass
it
along
to
the
design,
Review
Committee
and
then
increase
their
purview
right,
because
the
problem
is
that
we
can't
in
design
Review
Committee.
We
can't
really
vote
on
these
things
on
the
impact
or
whatever,
because
it's
outside
of
our
purview
and
we've
run
into
that
issue.
K
Oh
yeah
and
there's
not
really
a
legal
Avenue
for
an
impact
discussion
that
has
some
kind
of
requirements
at
the
end
of
it.
There's
not
a
legal
Avenue
and
the
best
thing
we
have
is
giving
our
input
and
encouraging
them
to
do
it
before
when
hotels
were
coming
to
council
under
a
conditional
review
process.
We
heard
that
and
the
conditional
review
process
is
kind
of
hazy.
K
Like
you
know,
can
we
you
know
you
have
to
come
to
agreement
on
the
items,
but
you
can
have
those
conversations
and
say
well,
you
know
this
whole
body
downtown
commission
wanted
four
trees
there
and
I'd
like
to
see
it,
but
we
don't
have
that
anymore,
I'd,
really,
honestly.
In
all
reality,
I
don't
see
us
going
back.
I.
E
B
M
K
B
K
K
Sent
my
list
to
Dana
this
commission
over
the
last
seven
years,
I've
been
involved,
has
created
a
list
of
things
that
we'd
prefer
to
see.
So
that's
where
you'll
gain
some
teeth,
because
you'll
have
input
on
the
document
that
they
have
to
adhere
to
or
use
this
guidance
right.
It's
not
always
a
Udo,
but
those
guidelines
do
matter.
A
H
You
handle
land
use
regulation
in
an
interesting
way,
and
some
of
the
things
that
you're
talking
about
is
the
potential
that
you
would
be
in.
What's
called
a
quasi
judicial,
correct.
A
H
Equipment
but
I
hear
you
the
things
that
you're
talking
about
are
policy
decisions,
I
think
are
important
and
I
know
it's
in
our
work
plan
will
and
Avery
and
I
looking
at
the
the
types
of
developments
that
have
come
in
the
hotel
overlay,
we
just
haven't
had
enough
reporting
that
back
to
the
council
and
talking
about
the
public
benefits
table.
So
all
of
that
is
in
the
works
and
I
think
that
what
you've
shared
with
me
today
will
help
us
significantly.
H
A
B
A
That
was
very
good.
Thank
you.
That
was
very
good.
Next
up
is
our
discussion
on
the
downtown
public
safety
special
meeting
and
Stephen
Lee.
Take
it
away.
Thank.
D
You
thank
you
so
as
all
the
former
members
and
new
members
just
so
you
know
at
our
last
meeting,
we
discussed
several
items
regarding
downtown
Asheville.
There
are
a
number
of
reasons.
It
brought
up
the
discussion,
but
we
had
a
very
good
General
discussion.
D
We
in
general
talked
about
some
new
city
of
Asheville
initiatives
and
programs
that
continue
to
improve
the
safety
and
the
overall
experience
downtown
Ben
Woody.
We
really
appreciate,
as
we
stated
last
month,
the
really
informative
discussion
you
brought
to
our
annual
Retreat
and
I.
Think
all
of
us
learned
a
lot
of
very
positive
things
that
are
going
on
and
we
the
discussion
kind
of
centered
around
you
know
the
word
needs
to
continue
to
get
out
and
we
felt
like
that.
D
We
acknowledged
that
there
was
a
need
to
re-engage
with
businesses,
business
owners,
landowners,
stakeholders,
residents
and
directly
enable
the
downtown
commission
to
directly
engage.
We
need
people
to
be
able
to.
We
need
to
hear
people
share
what
they
see
going
on
and
we
need
to
discuss
an
open,
common
and
related
issues.
D
So
at
the
last
meeting
a
subcommittee
was
formed,
an
established
to
Envision
a
possible
framework
for
an
event
of
some
type.
Perhaps
that
could
take
place.
The
committee
has
met
several
times
since
our
last
downtown
commission
meeting
myself,
Andrew,
Tao
and
Ricardo
have
been
brainstorming
and
we
appreciate
the
Insight
from
councilwoman
Turner
and
chairman
Moffett.
D
M
You
Stephen,
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
wide
public
discussion,
obviously
around
downtown
and
the
elements
of
Public
Safety
going
around
there,
and
you
know
I,
think
everybody's
aware
that
the
chamber
and
TDA
hosted
a
meeting
and
a
majority.
B
M
And
the
attendance
was
very
high
for
that
so
high
that
many
people,
including
myself,
could
not
get
in
and
I
think
what
this
is
showing
us.
There
was
a
lot
of
demand
for
from
the
public
for
engaging
with
institutions
to
work
collectively
and
speak
together
about
our
experiences
and
what
we
know
and
what
we
can
do
together.
M
So
I
know
that
there's
well
there's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
about
the
enforcement
aspects
of
Public
Safety,
there's
also
but
I
think
a
lack
of
discussion
and
many
many
missed
opportunities
around
the
creation
aspects
of
Public
Safety
and
that
those
I
think
that
is
a
significant
difference.
We
we
tend
to
think
of
Public
Safety
as
exclusively
enforcement
based.
Obviously,
we've
been
having
trouble
with
that.
We,
it
doesn't
right
now,
even
with
a
blank
check.
M
M
What
can
we
do
on
this
side
of
that
70
to
your
10
year
window
to
work
on
the
other
aspects
of
Public
Safety,
including
how
Community
can
create
Public
Safety
with
the
help
of
the
city
and
with
the
help
of
other
stakeholders,
businesses
and
other
institutions,
so
I'm
sort
of
looking
at
a
three-piece
a
few
different
pieces
here
to
what
this
meeting
would
do?
First
off
we
would,
you
know,
invite
City
staff
to
have
a
to
bring
a
presentation
about
what
we're
doing
right
now.
M
Programming
things
like
this
and
then
to
have
public
comments
so
that
we
can
hear
both
solicit
ideas
and
ask
ask
folks,
you
know
what
their
ideas
are
and
to
learn
about
their
experiences
and
then
to
discuss
what
those
missed
opportunities
are.
M
What
historically,
the
downtown
commission
has
been
asking
for
what
IDs
are
on
the
table
right
now
that
we
could
possibly
pick
up
and
ask
for
action
on
and
hopefully
resulting
with
enough
consensus
to
get
a
resolution
to
send
to
city
council
and
so
I'm
happy
to
toss
it
over
to
my
fellow
some
of
the
committee
members
telling
Ricardo
to
sort
of
fill
in
from
the
discussions
and
things
like
that
I'm
just
one
of
four
on
that
group
I
think
everybody
gets
should
be
heard.
C
Oh
I
think
you
covered
it
pretty
well,
and
you
know
one
one
thing
that
I
I
brought
it
up
before
as
well,
and
it's
also
an
opportunity
to
for
us
to
you
know
we
had
talked
about
this
during
during
the
workshop.
You
know
a
couple
of
months
back
how
it's
also
an
opportunity
for
us
to
go
out
and
engage
the
you
know
the
downtown
community
that
we're
supposed
to
be
representing
and
for
us
to
look
for
ways
that
this
body
can
also
act
on
on.
C
Hopefully,
the
initiatives
that
are
that
are
produced
from
from
this
meeting
Beyond
this
room
and.
D
So
we
acknowledge
the
fact
that
you
know
a
lot
of
people,
people
downtown
simply
don't
maybe
read
the
newspaper
or
watch
City
Council
meetings
or
read
the
social
media
that
city
of
Asheville
puts
out,
but
I
would
bet
that
our
new
members
are
not
aware
of
several
really
key
initiatives
that
are
in
place
right
now,
and
we
feel
like
that
if
we
can
get
in
a
room
with
everyone
and
share
these
Sage
I
think
you've
been
mentioning
a
term
about
momentum.
D
I
mentioned
last
month,
I
was
walking
down
the
sidewalk
with
a
73
year
old
business
owner
downtown
Asheville,
been
here
for
35
years,
had
all
they
could
do
was
complain
about
downtown
Cleveland,
as
homelessness
was
totally
oblivious
to
any
of
the
programs.
They're
underway
I
think
it's.
The
meeting
could
be
very
positive
and
I.
Think
a
lot
of
people
will
walk
away,
feeling
very,
very
good
about
some
of
the
programs
that
are
happening
but
Andrew,
like
you
said
there
needs
to
be
a
venue
at
this
point
where
we
can
all
come
together.
D
Everybody
has
the
opportunity
to
and
share
what
we're
relating
in
in
things
that
are
not
being
met
right
now.
Seven
years
is
a
long
time
and
what
was
the
thing
in
the
news
yesterday
about
you
know:
heaven
forbid
this
downtown
violence
that
occurred
so
tell
I,
don't
know
if
you
I
mean
I
know
that
you've
spoken
very
strongly
about
concerns
about
safety
and
I.
D
Think
that
every
business
under
downtown
has
that
concern
every
resident
does
so
do
we
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
we
were
thinking
about
a
framework
for
a
meeting
in
terms
of
time
frame
and
then
and
then
other
members
that
y'all
could
Sage
I
know
you
have
a
lot
that
you've
shared
with
us
as
a
subcommittee.
Maybe
there's
some
additional
things.
You
can
add
to
the
conversation.
K
I'm
happy
to
I
also
really
I
mean
I.
Think
I've
been
saying
this
for
a
while.
Now,
I
really
want
this
board
to
feel
empowered.
I
think
that
there
is,
we
are
having
a
bit
of
a
crisis
of
Public,
Safety
and
I
know
as
a
leader
I
feel
responsible,
but
I
can't
go
out
there
and
fix
it
by
myself
and
there's
momentum
and
group
needs
like
we.
I
I
would
like
to
see
this
body
become
a
lot
more
vocal
to
really
wrap
their
arms
around
downtown
as
the
only
body
that
is
specific
to
downtown.
K
Because
I
feel,
like
the
businesses
are
not
quite
being
heard
in
the
way
that
they
need
to
be
and
the
the
entire
Five
County
areas,
relying
on
us
and
I,
know
I'm
in
a
lot
of
meetings.
There's
a
lot
of
great
stuff
coming
together.
So
it
is
not
all
bad
I
do
think.
The
businesses
need
a
venue
to
be
able
to
vent
and
explain
their
experiences,
because
so
much
has
happened,
and
it
was
unfortunate
that
that
one
event
was
too
small
to
hold
everybody.
I,
don't
think
that
that
was
intentional.
K
There
just
wasn't
that
much
of
an
expected
outcome,
so
bigger
the
better
opportunities
to
vent
and
feel
heard
and
then
show
and
share
ideas.
I
think
are
important
because
you're
right,
A
lot
of
people
are
not
aware
of
some
of
the
things
that
are
coming
together
and
I
did
share
some
stuff
with
the
committee
earlier
in
the
week
about
some
initiatives
like
trying
to
blend
some
of
the
sheriff's
department
trying
to
partner
with
the
county
in
another
way.
K
For
the
last
three
years,
the
county
has
really
been
and
becoming
a
wonderful
partner
on
so
many
initiatives
and
the
sheriff's
department
is
not
experiencing
the
same
Staffing
crisis
that
we
are
so
we
are
asking
them
to
blend
and
help
and
supplement
and
I
believe
it's
going
to
come
together,
specific
to
downtown.
There
are
other
things
that
we've
learned
around.
N
K
K
K
But
there
are
some
initiatives
on
this
next
budget
round
to
raise
the
pay
for
APD
at
a
higher
rate
than
the
rest
of
the
staff
of
the
city.
There
are
ideas
around
doubling
pay
for
on-call
shifts
and
what
we
call
differential
shifts,
which
are
some
like
night
shifts
or
off
hours,
just
to
fill
gaps.
K
I
mean
these
are
little
ground
level
things
we
can
do
when
you
get
into
like
the
minutia
of
how
the
department
runs,
but
we
have
a
crisis
and
at
our
Retreat
our
budget
planning
Retreat.
We
actually
had
the
chief
come
and
speak
with
us
and
one
of
the
questions
I
think
our
mayor
asked
was.
If
we
gave
you
a
blank
check,
could
you
fix
it?
The
answer
was
no.
The
answer
was
instead
of
10.
K
It
might
take
seven
years
so
we're
not
in
a
you
know,
pay
absolutely
matters
benefit,
absolutely
absolutely
matters,
but
it's
not
the
only
item
and
I
know.
We
have
some
members
of
the
media
here
today,
but
I
do
think
it's
important
that
there
is
some
acknowledgment
that
Council
has
been
vocal
in
support
of
APD,
but
it
is
never
in
the
paper
when
we
say
it,
so
maybe
that
could
be
shared
too
there's
a
lot.
There's
a
lot
going
on.
There's
a
lot
coming,
but
I
feel
like
this
venue.
K
I
feel
like
this
board
holds
enough
concern
awareness
and
is
a
collective
body
that
can
come
right
to
council
and
do
what
we
hope
you
will
do,
which
is
make
recommendations
and
come
to
us
with
your
input,
and
we
actually
specifically
I
think
in
the
charter
of
this
says
that
you'll
bring
businesses
and
partners
and
stakeholders
to
the
table
to
make
sure
that
the
downtown
community
is
represented.
So
you
know
you're
worried
about
empowering
design
with
you.
A
D
Okay,
so
I
I
do
want
to
mention
three
things
that
we've
been
carefully
considering
as
well.
One
is
Staff
time
we
know
staff
the
plate
is
full.
We
acknowledge
that
the
second
is
location.
We've
got
to
determine
the
location
and
a
date.
That's
two
things.
The
third
is
before
this
happens.
Before
we
move
forward,
we've
got
to
clearly
understand
what
we
need.
This
outcome
to
be
and
I
think
that's
been
defined
today.
It's
clear
positive
engagement,
so
we
have
because
of
the
idea
and
concept
of
momentum.
Asheville
is
very
active
right
now.
D
Business
owners
everybody's
here
in
town
we've
expressed
there's
a
there's,
a
very
positive
aspect,
to
having
some
type
of
meeting
in
the
next
four
to
six
weeks,
preferably
by
the
end
of
May
we've
tossed
around
ideas
for
location,
obviously,
their
benefits
for
being
at
a
place
like
the
Civic
Center
upstairs
there.
There
are
some
benefits
for
being
on
private
in
a
private
location,
at
a
hotel,
Ballroom,
we're
we'd
love
to
have
thoughts
and
responses
on
that
we
do
not
have.
D
We
do
know
that
there
would
be
a
very
carefully
thought
out.
Effort
to
make
sure
invites
were
sent
to
everyone
we
could
think
of
in
terms
of
the
stakeholders.
A
great
example
is:
what's
happened
with
this
College
Street
Bike
Lane
thing
everybody.
H
D
D
So
our
chairman
Moffett,
that's
kind
of
where
we
stand
and
we're
open
and.
K
D
Specifically
talk
about
business
improvement
district,
which
is
huge,
I
mean
they.
May
you
know
it's
a
huge
discussion
very
positive,
but
it's
a
very,
very
carefully
well
laid
out
initiative,
that's
kind
of
its
own
moving
Target,
but
I
think.
K
D
N
I
E
N
K
A
Body
can
do
that
a
coalition
of
Public
Safety,
both
are
great
yeah
you
know
is
going
to
have
so
we
would
want
to
work
with
them
and
and
and
and
basically
what
we
are
looking
at,
or
at
least
Stephen
Lee
I'm
sorry
is
is
having
people
like
Ben
Woody
in
the
room.
A
The
city's
heard
and
is
doing
then
maybe
break
up,
have
Round
Table
discussions
and
then
report
back
and
then
say:
okay,
now
here's
what
they
said,
the
city's
doing,
here's
what's
still
not
being
done.
Here's
some
options
on
some
other
things.
We'd
like
to
see
these
people
do.
Does
that
answer
your
question?
So
so
the
thing
that
the
downtown
commission
can
do
is
that
we
can
request
from
staff
institutional
updates
that
a
a
you.
K
That's
the
whole
point
like
this
could
be
that's
why
we're
looking
at
large
venues,
because
it
seems
like
I,
think
that
when
the
chamber
did,
Biltmore
Avenue
was
probably
40
people
or
something,
and
that
wasn't
the
goal,
but
if
we
need
a
200
space
venue
to
do
this,
let's
do
it.
It
needs
to
be
discussed.
B
I
N
D
Part
of
yes,
part.
M
It
the
gripe
sessions
and
the
gnashing
of
teeth
and
tearing
out
of
beards
has
been
well
documented,
I
think,
and
we
are
really
going
to
try
to
frame
this
as
more
of
a
solicitation
and
an
invitation
to
the
public,
for
ideas
and
for
and
for
ideas
for
teamwork
between.
N
M
Know
not
just
folks
with
business
interests
but
folks
with
for
cultural
interest
in
downtown
and
living
interests
in
downtown
as
well
to
get
more
of
these
together,
because
the
chamber
is
really
good
at
talking
about
business
I,
don't
think
they're
really
that
they're
that
great
about
talking
about
quality
of
life
and
other
programs.
That
might,
for
instance,
benefit
individual
entrepreneurs
rather
than
or
your
your
bigger.
You
know
your
bigger
businesses,
so
this
is
a
place
as
a
public
body
where
we
can
influence
our
Democratic
institutions.
M
We
can
hopefully
influence
our
public
resources
to
to
come
together.
So
a
much
broader
meeting
than
any
other
single
institution
or
group
of
concerned
citizens
can
happen.
You're
looking
to
have
Crest
a
much
broader
net,
I.
M
J
Hey
thanks
just
to
add
one
thing,
and
it's
like
a
little
bit
obvious,
but
I
think
it's
just
worth
reminding
everyone.
As
this
body
we
have
several
new
members,
I'm,
not
shutting
anything
down
chair.
This
body
meets
monthly
right
and
there's
a
suggestion
made
like:
where
can
people?
Maybe
something
should
be
done
regularly
and
I
just
want
to
remind
us
all
that
this
venue
does
exist
and
we
do
take
public
comment
and
part
of
what
your
roles
are
is
to
represent
other
stakeholder
groups
and
make
sure
sure
that
could
look
like
convening
sometimes.
J
A
K
K
To
hear
from
businesses
specifically
I
felt
like
this
time
yeah
and
since
the
design
review
is
so
expert.
Now
we're
good.
D
N
A
A
We
would
like
the
subcommittee
to
continue
to
work.
I
agree
with
the
timeline
before
the
end
of
May
to
keep
the
momentum
as
we've,
as
has
been
previously
stated,
as
has
been
previously
stated
that
this
is
not
a
gripe
session,
but
a
a
means
to
move
towards
further
engagement
and
and
specifically
between
the
creation
of
Public
Safety,
not
necessarily
just
the
enforcement
of
it
between
the
institutional
apparatus
of
the
city
of
Asheville
and
the
broader
Community,
including
business.
M
I
I
tend
to
you
know,
make
sure
that
invitations
to
elected
officials
go
out
as
well
to
you
know
to
a
broad
range
of
of
public,
including
people
who
work
downtown.
A
N
A
K
A
G
G
G
M
K
K
J
So
in
terms
of
timeline
there
there
is
a
lot
going
on
over
the
next
couple
months,
so
you
have
pack
square
and
we
have
the
outdoor
dining
updates.
We
have
as
project
Aspire
but
I'm,
not
I,
I,
think
staff.
We
can
go
back
and
look
at
options
in
terms
of
venue
in
terms
of
participation
and
whatnot
I
just
want
to
offer
and
not
put
them
on
the
spot.
Ben.
J
Do
you
have
any
comments
you
want
to
share
about
our
next
steps
to
consider
you
know
support
and
when
we
might
be
able
to
see
I.
K
K
M
M
D
So
it
sounds
like
the
entire
monthly
we
have
marching.
Orders
worked
with
staff
to
determine
the
best
date
and
venue
yes
and
prepare
an
agenda
and
then
likely
before
our
next
meeting,
distribute
to
everybody
on
the
commission
that
information.
Yes,.
A
And
I'll
say
I'll
say
one
last
thing
and
then
we'll
move
on
don't
try
to
get
it
perfect.
We
don't
have
to
do
this
once
we
can
do
this
more
than
more
than
once.
Let's
just
do,
let's
just
get
a
good
event.
B
A
Together
and
then
we
can
come
back
and
do
another
one
in
the
fall,
if
that's
unnecessary
agreed
very
good.
Thank
you
very
much.
That
was
good
discussion.
Thank
you,
okay,
I'm,
going
to
move
in
again
we
got
six
minutes,
but
we
can
do
it
updates
and
reports
on
DRC.
We
did
not
meet
and.
H
F
F
Live
is
next
Friday,
April
21st,
so
that'll
be
a
lot
of
fun
and
then
we
have
our
first
building
our
city
speaker
series
event
on
April
26th
from
5
30
to
7
at
the
collider.
The
focus
on
that
Series
this
year
is
housing
and
that
specific
discussion
will
be
missing:
middle
housing,
thinking
big
building
small
to
respond
to
today's
housing
crisis.
So
you
can
get
a
ticket
for
that
on
Eventbrite.
L
A
M
We'll
just
really
on
that
specifically
right
now.
The
public,
Space
Management
task
force
has
been
working
on
outdoor
dining
and
Street.
Reads
and
I
am
I'm
really
happy
to
see
that
we're
seems
like
we're
even
close
to
a
Finish
Line
on
that
and-
and
this
stuff
also
does
plug
into
that
greater
idea
of
Public
Safety
and
you
know,
and
how
what
the
city
can
do
to
support
private
uses
that
are
positive
and
engage
the
public
in
good
ways
and
provide
amenity
for
both
businesses
and
for
customers
and
pedestrians
of.
M
Getting
pretty
close
to
that
we've
had
our
last
meeting
was
really
constructive.
We
got
some
good
feedback
and
I
know
Dana's
had
a
couple
meetings
recently
with
some
folks
and
getting
close
to
getting
that
over
the
finish
line,
and
hopefully
that
is
going
to
be
the
most
the
street.
The
outdoor
dying
in
streetery
function
of
it
is
probably
going
to
be
one
of
the
more
complicated
pieces
to
get.
M
M
J
We
have
a
little
bit
more
overlap
from
the
Ada
board
now,
so
some
of
this
will
be
repetitive
with
what
you
heard
at
your
board
meeting
this
week,
but
wanted
to
continue
to
provide
a
few
updates
again
that
were
included
in
your
report
last
month.
There's
some
new
resources
available
on
the
city's
website.
Some
guidance
for
businesses
related
to
Public
Safety,
as
well
as
updated
information
on
on
addressing
and
Reporting
issues
related
to
homelessness.
J
So
please
check
those
out
Pax
Square
Plaza
visioning,
so
we
do
have
an
updated
timeline,
we're
pushing
things
by
about
a
month,
so
we
anticipate
being
able
to
have
a
preview
of
the
plan
for
you
all
that
was
going
to
happen
today.
But
it's
going
to
happen
at
the
next
meeting
and
then
coming
for
a
formal
recommendation
at
your
June
meeting.
J
And
it'll
be
available
to
the
public.
The
Monday
after
your
meeting
there'll
be
a
an
online
opportunity
for
the
public
to
give
input
on
that
draft
plan.
Go
ahead.
I.
J
Minute,
College
patent
bike
lane
meeting
I
want
to
make
sure
you
all
have
the
details
of
this
meeting.
It's
happening
next
week,
Wednesday
the
19th
from
3
to
7
P.M,
it's
an
opportunity
for
the
general
public
and
specifically
for
corridor
stakeholders
to
give
input.
J
We
are
going
to
have
some
big
Maps
out,
there's
going
to
be
different
staff
people
there,
including
Emergency
Services,
APD
and
fire
department
staff,
will
be
there
to
to
Really,
look
at
specific
issues
and
specific
spaces
and
really
to
dig
in
some
of
the
loading
concerns
and
and
see
what's
possible.
So
again,
three
to
four
pm
is
for
corridor
specific
stakeholders.
We
encourage
those
folks
to
stick
around
for
the
public
portion,
but
that
will
be
held
at
the
collider
Overlook
Lounge.
So
we'll
have
the
big
windows
we
can
look.
J
You
know
at
some
of
these
areas
that
we
are
where
the
bike
Lanes
would
be
so
Downtown
parking
just
continuing
to
provide
a
link
to
monthly
parking
availability
here.
J
Downtown
public
restroom
I
do
have
one
one
small,
substantive
update,
and
that
is
that
the
city
selected
Osgood
landscape
architecture
for
Design
Services
to
which
will
take
place.
This
spring
and
summer
there
will
be
the
public
restroom
facility,
as
well
as
improvements
to
that
public
space
with
Public
Safety
as
a
top
priority
in
mind
with
that
design,
work.
I
Dana
can
I
surprise.
Public
restroom
is
my
favorite
topic.
We
talked
I
think
it
was
the
public,
the
space
committee
meeting,
where
we
asked
if
there
might
be
an
option
to
do
the
public,
the
actual
restroom
construction
first
and
the
park
improvements
later.
Has
that
been
considered.
J
B
D
I
would
like
to
ask
I
think
my
understanding
of
it
is
exactly
what
you're
saying
I
do
think
that
we
do
need
to
come
up
with
what
the
plan
is
for
that
if
it's
a
three-year
window,
if
it's.
D
Window
because
the
upcoming
public
restroom
is
really,
unfortunately
going
to
serve
a
fairly
narrow
part
of
the
community.
That's
just
the
fact
folks.
So
we
need
to
know
Citizens
need
to
know
when
the
former
very
nice
facility
it
was
built
in
2004..
A
B
K
But
I
don't
think
people
fully
realize
at
some
point,
Dana
made
a
map
herself
of
all
the
restrooms
in
their
hours.
We
might
just
want
to
publicize
that
again
and
check
and
see
everybody's
open
again.
Information
sharing
people
have
no
idea.
I
think
covet
made
us
all
check
out
in
a
different
way.
Yeah
people
are
just
not.
B
D
J
Great
I
will
make
sure
the
map
is
up
to
date
and
and
share
that
out
with
you
all
and
we
had
I
know
Ada
had
it
on
their
window
and
we
can
try
to
do
better
to
get
the
word
out.
It
is
on
some
of
the
resources
I
referenced
on
the
the
homelessness
resources.
We
we
try
to
get
the
word
out,
but
we
could
use
your
help.
J
K
I
do
I
want
to
share
one
thing
about
parking
since
you
hit
on
parking
for
a
second,
you
know.
For
decades
there
was
like
a
600
person,
wait
list
and
parking
decks
for
the
city
of
Asheville
and
when
covet
hit
that
check
dramatically
changed.
There
are
actually
Open
Spaces
right
now,
but
I
am
seeing
them
get
grabbed
up.
We're
going
to
be
quickly
on
a
wait
list
again
soon.
Some
decks
already
are
so
if
you're
a
business
in
downtown
or
resident
downtown
if
you've
always
wanted
one
of
those
spaces.
K
J
Yeah,
that's
a
good
flag.
I
had
updated
this
report
just
now.
I
didn't
update
the
agenda,
but
I
just
wanted
to
provide
a
link
to
a
new
program
that
the
city
is
going
to
be
piloting,
Community
responder
program.
What
I
do
have
is
our
presentations
that
that
have
been
shared
with
city
council
and
with
the
Public
Safety
Committee.
They
intend
to
launch
that
program
May
1st
and
they
will
be
supporting
existing
efforts.
I
know,
coordinating
with.
J
Let's
see,
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
outdoor
dining
we've
been
meeting
with
different
stakeholder
groups.
We're
going
to
go
to
a
representative
group
from
Air
next
week
we're
getting
a
notice
out
to
all
existing
permit
holders
and
setting
up
a
meeting
with
them,
and
we
look
forward
to
either
coming
to
you
all
for
a
formal
recommendation
recommendation
in
May
or
June.
J
You
know
we
wouldn't
launch
the
the
actual
new
permitting
process
until
January
2024
is
when
it
would
be
in
effect,
so
we
do
want
to
build
in
time
to
get
information
out
to
everybody,
but
there
I
think
there's
some
flexibility,
Carter
and
patton
stormwater
I
know
the
city
has
been
communicating
extensively
with
folks
in
that
area
and
coordinating
that
construction
activity
just
looking
ahead
to
what
is
it
later
in
May,
late
May,
where
we
anticipate
the
project
will
hit
Patton
Avenue
and
there
will
be
more
General
impacts
at
that
time
to
traffic,
as
well
as
to
sidewalks
on
patents.
J
D
K
D
F
A
A
A
Pretty
pretty
simple
I
think
the
rest
of
y'all
know
that
I
hope
I
think
I've
been
ignoring
emails,
but
that
would
be
why.