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B
The
downtown
commission
provides
city
council
with
recommendations
on
downtown
policies
and
initiatives.
In
addition,
downtown
commissioners
currently
fill
four
out
of
nine
seats
of
the
city's
design
review
committee,
which
reviews
development
projects
within
the
central
business
district,
the
river
arts,
district
and
hotel
projects
outside
of
those
areas.
The
downtown
commission
also
has
the
opportunity
to
provide
input
on
projects
outside
of
the
scope
of
design
review.
All
committee
members
and
staff
are
participating
virtually
maybe
for
the
last
time
we
appreciate
your
patience
as
we
continue
to
work
through
this
way
of
doing
meetings.
B
We
are
streaming
live
on
our
virtual
engagement
hub,
which
is
accessible
through
the
virtual
engagement
hub
link
on
the
front
page
of
the
city
website.
This
is
also
linked
on
the
downtown
actual
downtown
commission's
webpage.
We
have
an
option
for
the
public
to
listen,
live
by
phone
and
for
anyone
out
there
with
us
today.
Welcome
at
this
time
I'll
go
through
and
introduce
the
committee
members
who
are
participating.
B
You
all
know
the
drill.
Please
remember
to
mute
your
microphone
if
you're,
not
speaking
unmute,
when
you
need
to
speak
and
committee
members.
As
I
call
your
name,
please
say
a
quick
hello,
andrew
fletcher
have
I
seen
him
come
in
no
tal
frankfurt.
B
Quorum's
gonna
be
fun
kimberly
hunter.
I
heard
from
her
good.
C
B
There
we
go
stephen
lee
johnson,
good.
D
B
Great
robin
reigns
is
not
available.
Megan
rogers.
D
B
Good
guillermo
rodriguez.
B
Good
morning
ricardo
say
hello,
good.
B
Ruth
summers-
I
saw
miss
ruth
good
morning.
There
we
go-
and
it's
say
sage
turner,
our
city
council
liaison.
B
I
see
sage
she's
smiling
at
me
on
the
screen.
So
sage
is
here
very
good.
I
think
that's
a
quorum
everybody,
so
at
this
time
we
will
go
through
and
approve
our
minutes.
You
should
have
all
received
draft
action
minutes
from
our
july
8
2022
meeting.
Are
there
any
revisions
or
alterations
additions.
B
C
B
Thank
you,
stephen
lee
aye
megan,
hi,
guiller,
hi,
ricardo,
hi,
I'm
and
I
sorry
ruth.
G
D
B
Thank
you
all
right.
First
of
all,
thank
you
for
everyone
for
attending.
We,
we
actually
weren't
sure
we
were
going
to
need
a
commission
meeting
this
month,
but
we
need
to
review
the
bike
lanes
and
and
give
the
public
a
chance
to
comment.
So
I
wanted
to
thank
everyone
for
coming
in.
We
have
received
some
public
comment
which
we
will
go
over
when
we
are
addressing
the
biltmore
avenue
restriping
issue,
so
we'll
talk
about
biltmore
avenue,
restriping,
we'll
talk
briefly
about
some
discussions.
B
H
Morning,
everybody,
thank
you.
Can
you
guys
hear
me
yeah?
Okay,
thank
you
guys,
I'm
jessica
morris,
I'm
the
assistant
director
of
the
transportation
department.
I
really
appreciate
you
guys
holding
this
meeting
today.
I've
got
some
updates
for
you
and
some
information
to
share
and
I'll
go
through
as
quickly
as
I
can.
The
memo
that
we
sent
out
to
you
guys
earlier,
which
I
recognize
not
everybody's,
probably
had
a
chance
to
read
it,
which
is
okay,
because
I'm
going
to
just
kind
of
walk
through
it
and
that
will
be
the
presentation.
H
So,
as
you
guys
know,
this
is
this
proposal.
This
project
is
part
of
a
larger
project.
That
is
an
ncbot
project.
They
are
going
to
be
repaving
much
of
25,
which
is
includes
mirrorman
avenue
from
the
north
to
the
woodfin
city
line,
all
the
way
down,
merriman
under
I-240
on
onto
broadway
and
then
on
to
biltmore
all
the
way
to
southside
avenue
so
pretty
much
everything
in
downtown.
H
While
it's
happening
but
anyways
we
are,
we
have
been
working
with
them,
as
you
know,
on
merriman
avenue,
where
ncdot
decided,
after
some
significant
public
input
to
do
a
lane,
reduction
on
merriman
avenue
north
of
wt
weaver,
and
so
we
also
had
been
talking
to
them
about
a
similar
lane
reduction
or
the
section
of
biltmore
avenue
between
patton
and
hilliard.
H
H
This
is
because
we
are
able
to
leverage
the
opportunities
to
try
to
advance
some
city
goals,
as
it
relates
to
multimodal
transportation,
transportation,
safety
overall,
and
so
the
proposal
is
is
to
add
bicycle
facilities
to
this
section
of
the
road,
and
since
we
can't
change
the
width
of
the
road,
the
only
way
that
bicycle
facilities
could
potentially
be
added
is
by
removing
one
of
the
two
southbound
vehicle
lanes
and
narrowing
the
northbound
lane,
which
is
currently
pretty
wide.
H
We
have
a
number
of
city
plans
and
policies
that
support
this
in
terms
of
adding
additional
bicycle
facilities.
We,
you
know,
besides
the
comprehensive
plan,
they're
a
specific
mention
of
adding
bicycle
facilities
to
this
section
of
roadway.
In
the
asheville
motion
mobility
plan.
H
H
So
you
know,
besides
just
adding
bike
facilities,
there's
a
lot
of
goals
that
this
supports
in
terms
of
affordability,
community
health
sustainability
and
since
you
know,
we
have
some
pretty
high
affordability
or
pretty
bad
affordability
issues.
Here
you
know
we
we're
trying
to
add
options
for
transportation,
so
that
folks,
that
can't
afford
a
car
don't
want
to
drive
a
car
or
camp
can't
drive
a
car,
have
options.
H
H
H
I
think
if
I
had
to
summarize
what
we've
heard,
I
would
say,
of
course
it's
split.
I
would
say
that
business
owners
that
we've
heard
of
heard
from
that
have
business
models
on
that
corridor.
I
would
say
the
majority
are
opposed,
and
then
I
would
say
that
the
vast
majority
of
the
other
comments
that
we've
received,
which
many
of
them
most
of
them
are
not
necessarily
business
owners
on
the
corridor.
H
We've
received
support.
So,
as
usual
anytime,
we
have
a
bike.
Lane
project
proposed,
it's
pretty
pretty
split,
and
but
what
I
would
say
is
that-
and
I
think
it's
fair
to
say
that
a
lot
of
the
comments
and
concerns
that
we've
heard
have
been,
in
this
case
centered
on
loading
and
unloading
activities.
H
H
So
right
next
to
the
parking
lane
double
park
and
and
do
their
unloading
activities,
and
so
the
business
concern
has
been
related
primarily
to
that
and
that
if
we
take
away
the
extra
southbound
lane,
then
this
could
significantly
impact
the
ability
for
their
delivery
trucks
to
do
what
they
need
to
do.
H
We
have
heard
other
other
concerns
as
well.
I
would
say
there.
The
concerns
are
very
similar
to
others
that
we
hear
whenever
we
are
looking
at
a
lane
reduction,
so
concerns
about
congestion,
concerns
about
emergency
access
concerns
about
about
safety,
and
so
you
know
we
wanted
to
include
all
of
that
and
summarize
that
as
well
in
this
memo.
H
But
as
far
as
loading
zones
are
concerned,
I
just
want
to
say
that
whether
or
not.
H
B
Would
you
mind
pulling
up
the
actual
a1
and
a2
diagrams,
while
you're
talking
through
the
memo
that
might
help.
H
So
yeah
good
point,
so
we're
going
to
talk
about
loading
zones,
so
we,
whether
or
not
bike
lanes,
get
installed.
We
want
to
try
to
help
the
situation
with
loading.
We
can't
probably
fix
everybody's
loading.
We
can't
give
everybody
their
own
loading
zone,
but
what
we
want
to
try
to
do
is
address
the
root
of
that
problem
and
provide
some
additional
loading
spaces
so
section
the
two
documents
that
are
linked
here:
a1
and
a2.
H
It
shows
the
not
only
the
proposed
striping
plan,
which
includes
the
bike
lanes,
but
we've
also
included
in
here
the
loading
zone,
so
the
orange
orange
ones
are
existing
and
then
blue
is
meant
to
represent
new,
so
you'll
see
some
that
are
blue
and
orange
and
that
that
is
essentially
saying
we're
going
to
make
a
loading
zone
bigger
by
adding
some
additional
links
onto
one
of
the
ends
of
it.
So
we've
added
several
loading
zones
or
we're
proposing
to
add
several
loading
zones
in
the
corridor.
H
And
so
we
haven't
added
as
much
on
the
more
southern
section,
so
south
of
aston
we've
had
many
many
conversations
with
the
orange
peel
and
with
wicked
weeds.
Their
needs
are
somewhat
unique
and
then
also,
I
would
say,
exacerbated
by
the
the
curve
here
in
the
road
and
the
proximity
to
this
signalized
intersection,
no
matter
how
the
road
is
striped
their
specific
needs
and
are
going
to.
Essentially,
we
can't
give
them
their
own
loading
zone.
That
would
be
a
legal
loading
zone.
H
You
know
per
a
permit
essentially
to
authorize
what
they've
been
doing
forever
and
seems
to
be
working
just
fine,
so
so
this
is.
This
is
our
attempt
to
help
with
the
loading
problem
and
again
this
would
be
with
or
without
bike
facilities.
H
This
these
new
loading
zones
would
go
in
with
the
re-striping
and
hopefully
help
help
that
situation
so.
I
Ahead,
thank
you,
jessica.
We're
talking
about
loading
zones
and
my
concern
is
that
there's
just
no
way
to
enforce
who
uses
loading
zones
downtown
and
I
think
it's
part
of
a
bigger
discussion.
But
yeah
has
there
been
any?
Are
there
any
additional
ideas
about
how
those
loading
phones
can
be
restricted
to
just
those
that
are
actually
loading
and
not
people
that
just
want
to
park
and
stay
there
all
day,
because.
H
That's
what's
happening,
I
know
I
know
so.
Yes,
this
is
a.
This
is
a
downtime
downtown
wide
conversation,
and
I
actually
just
had
a
meeting
yesterday
with
our
our
enforcement
staff
and
and
ken
putnam.
It's
it's
tricky
because
we
obviously
want
to
allow
like
the
cisco's
of
the
world
delivery
vehicles
to
use
those
spaces,
but
then
there's
business
owners
that
are
using
their
their
own
personal
vehicle
right.
So
how
do
you
distinguish
between
that
personal
vehicle?
H
That
a
business
user
is
a
business
owner
is
using
versus
somebody
who's
just
abusing
it?
I
think
that
we
have
to
as
a
for
the
whole
downtown
explore.
How
do
we?
How
do
we
address
that?
I
don't
I
don't
know
if,
like
some
kind
of
permitting
system
is
the
way
to
do
it?
H
Maybe
it's
something
really
simple,
like
you
sign
up
for
a
sticker
or
a
hang
tag
or
something
for
your
personal
vehicle
as
a
business
owner,
and
then
we
have
a
better
way
of
making
that
just
distinguishing
between
those
two
we
are
going
to
be
demoing
soon.
A
is
called
a
lpr
system
license
plate
recognition,
which
sounds
scary,
but
it's
a
it's.
H
A
way
that
our
enforcement
team
can
quickly
just
determine
how
long
a
vehicle
has
been
in
the
loading
zone
automatically,
and
that
is
one
way
that
we
might
be
able
to
have
better
enforcement
as
well
as
enforcing
that
30
minute
limit
right
now,
it's
really
hard
for
our
enforcement
staff
to
enforce
that
30
minute
limit
because
they
would
have
to,
like
you
know,
write
down
this
car
and
and
remember
to
go
back
30
minutes
later,
so
we're
going
to
be
demoing
a
system
for
that
in
a
few
months
and
I
think
that's
a
tool
that
we
really
need
regardless,
but
you're,
not
wrong.
B
Don't
you
use
a
similar
system
right
now
for
enforcement
on,
like
the
the
blue
tag,
the
the
blue
spaces,
because
we
just
we
don't
have
tags
anymore
for
aston.
They
just
use
our
license
plate.
H
Yeah,
we
don't
have,
we
don't
have
the
technology
or
we
don't
have
the
the
tech
system
with
that.
I
think
they're
literally
just
doing
that
by
some
kind
of
database
on
a
on
a
left
or
on
a
you,
know,
ipad
or
something,
but
that's
another
use
for
the
license
plate
recognition
system
is
that
you
can
drive
by
it.
Basically
like
scans.
Your
license
plate
says
yes,
this
person's
got
a
permit
or
this
person
has
been
there
for
longer
than
30
minutes
and
we're
able
to
be
a
lot
more
efficient,
so
yeah.
J
Oh,
it's:
okay,
I'll
just
share
the
feedback.
I've
been
here
and
so
I'm
both
a
business,
a
biltmore
avenue,
business
owner
and
property
manager
and
probably
for
like
half
of
that
block
so
jessica's
in
a
hard
position,
because
there's
been
some
really
rapid
meetings
and
she's
getting
pretty
attacked
but
I'll
share
what
I've
heard
from
the
businesses.
There
is
a
lot
of
concern.
We're
not
actually
concerned
about
the
loading,
the
legalities,
because
that's
just
been
our
ongoing
reality,
but
keeping
and
maintaining
and
even
growing
some
was
helpful.
J
J
So
the
suggestions
I
heard
at
both
the
meetups
and
following
meetings
and
phone
calls
were
that
do
one
bike
lane
and
one
turn
lane
and
somehow
make
it
work,
and
I
think
the
feedback
we've
heard
is
that
there's
some
points
where
the
curved
curb
is
too
narrow
and
maybe
there's
some
creativity
or
something
but
I'll
just
share.
I
sure
wish
we
were
looking
at
more
than
one
option.
I
think
I
also
heard
in
one
of
the
meetings
at
the
impact
is
about
twenty
thousand
dollars.
J
If
we
wanted
to
slow
down,
I
think
the
businesses
requested
a
trial
to
say,
hey
could
this
work?
Could
it
be
a
little
different
and
what
would
be
the
cost
if
it
failed,
and
that
was
like
20
grand
but
just
sharing?
There
is
some
concern.
I
I
do
since
I
work
on
biltmore.
It
actually
doesn't
impact
our
businesses
and
our
tenants
as
much,
because
our
on
street
parking
is
pretty
stable,
but
it
is
gridlock,
anytime,
someone
tries
to
turn
already
or
it
just
backs
up
to
pack
square.
J
D
Thanks
sage
shared
a
couple
of
the
concerns
that
I'm
hearing
I've
heard
directly
from
some
folks.
We
also,
I
also
sat
on
on
a
meeting,
I
think,
last
week
with
jessica
and
a
few
business
owners,
and
then
we
had
a
few
folks
attend
our
board
meeting
earlier
this
week.
D
Just
on
wednesday,
and
as
jessica
mentioned,
the
majority
of
the
businesses
on
the
street
are
opposed
at
this
time,
and
I
want
to
be
clear:
they're
not
opposed
to
multimodal
transportation
or
bike
lanes
in
general,
just
really
the
process
and
the
concerns
that
they
weren't
able
to
weigh
in
in
advance
the
businesses
really
weren't
asked
for
feedback
until
just
a
couple
weeks
ago.
So
you
know
the
process
I
think
was
mishandled.
D
The
other
thing
loading
is,
is
definitely
the
big
activity
and
we
we
just
had
a
haywood
streetscape
project
where
our
offices
and
we
expanded
some
loading
zones.
We
added
some
loading
zones
similar
to
what
we're
talking
about
and
we're
still
having
large
trucks
blocking
a
travel
lane,
because
they
don't
they're
not
able
to
get
in
and
out
of
the
spots
here
on
haywood
street
and
with
the
number
of
restaurants
that
we
have
on
biltmore
avenue.
Just
in
that
stretch
I
mean
it's
dozens
of
restaurants.
D
H
Yeah
I
I
wish
I
could
do
a
trial
and
I
don't
know
that
we
could
or
like
a
tactical
urbanism
kind
of
thing
like
I
wish
that
I
could
do
that,
and
I
don't.
I
haven't,
been
able
to
figure
out
a
way
to
do
that
in
a
way
that
would
be
accurately
reflective
of
what
we're
trying
to
do.
I
I
mean,
I
think,
like
you
said,
one
thing
that
could
be
considered
is:
is
the
trial
just
doing
it
and
then
reversing
it?
H
If,
if
everybody
is
still
upset
about
it
and
so
yeah,
that
would
be
a
budgetary
impact?
My
estimate
is
that
it
would
be
about
25
to
30
thousand
dollars.
H
That's
the
estimate
that
our
traffic
engineer
gave
me
based
on
some
other
re-striping
projects
that
we've
done
seems
feels
a
little
low
to
me
just
because
I
don't
know
anything
that
caught
like,
I
think
somebody
said
a
kitchen
remodel,
cost
more
than
that,
so
I'm
a
little
nervous
that
that
might
be
low,
but
it
it
isn't.
It's
a.
C
D
C
Thank
you
for
the
presentation
and
also
really
hearing
public
comment.
I
have
two
questions.
One
is
there
a
way
because
I
I
get
that
it's
a
monetary
thing
and
it's
a
temporary
thing
and
it's
all
these
factors
number
one.
How
is
like
injury
and
or
deaths
you
know
or
accidents
going
to
be
measured
or
factored
in?
C
Should
city
manager
choose
to
implement
this,
because
if
there's
not
a
temporary
solution
or
a
trial
solution
and
then
there's
an
increase
in,
you
know:
tickets
to
people
who
aren't
violating,
but
it's
you
know
they
were
ticketed
anyway
or
injuries
or
deaths
how's
that
going
to
be
measured.
So
that's
number
one
and
number
two
did
anyone
consider
you
know
it's
easy
to
say
these
things
on
the
back
end,
I
recognize,
but
it's
truly
just
for
support,
creating
a
multimodal
that
stems
from
the
greenways
and
all
of
those
beautiful.
C
We
have
so
many
really
cool
intricate
greenways
that
are
starting
to
you,
know
intersect
and
have
opportunity
to
be
connected
with
bike
lanes
on
asphalt
and
on
the
street
level.
Did
anyone
consider,
like
reverse
engineering
from
that
perspective,
as
opposed
to
like
slapping
it
down
in
the
middle
with
some
great
feasibility
studies,
but
rather
having
it
come
from
the
greenways?
H
Sure,
okay,
so
I'm
I'm
not
sure
if
I'm
gonna
answer
your
first
question
very
well
or
not,
but
we
we
have
crash
records.
I
have
not-
and
I
probably
should
have
looked
up
crash
records
for
this
stretch.
H
My
sense
is
that
we
don't
really
have
a
whole
lot
of
what
I'll
say:
serious
injury
or
fatality
crashes,
because
in
downtown
speeds
are
generally
low.
Although
things
are
more,
some
people
would
consider
chaotic
or
another
way
to
put
it
would
be
vibrant
or
active
downtown,
because
we've
got
a
lot
of
activity.
H
Typically,
you
don't
want
to
just
look
at
like
a
three-month
period
or
something
because
there's
not
enough
data
to
make.
It
accurately
have
an
accurate
comparison.
I
would
say
like
if
we
had
some
some
major
incident
that
occurred
after
installing
it
and
we
looked
at
the
factors
and
considered
contributing
factors
to
that
crash.
If
there
were
one,
we
could
make
a
determination
as
to
whether
or
not
the
project
was
the
contributing
factor
to
that.
C
I
keep
I
keep
on
meeting
and
meeting
it
doesn't
quite,
but
I
can
appreciate
what
you're
saying
I
think
I
think
that's
a
factor
right
when
people
say
you
know,
business
owners
are
saying
it's
unsafe,
there's
not
turning
lanes
loading
zones,
it's
already
highly
congested.
C
The
first
thing
my
brain
goes
to
provides
feasibility
of
the
project
itself
is
like.
Was
there
was
there
measurement
and
will
there
be
measurement
for
tracking
injury,
especially
with
multimodal
that
has
no
protection
of
like
a
vehicle
surround?
So
that's
kind,
I'm
like
is
that
that
data
point
is
that,
like
you
know,
public
safety
point
being
factored
into
this
project
as
a
metric
of
like
high
high
importance.
H
H
They
had
concerns
about
doing
a
lane
reduction
for
marimen.
They
had
zero
concerns
about
doing
a
lane
reduction
here
and
primarily
that's
because
the
traffic
volumes
are
are
much
lower
and
the
traffic
volumes
to
the
north
of
college
and
patton
are
pretty
much
the
exact
same
volumes
that
you
see
south
of
patton
and
so
from
a
traffic
congestion,
standpoint
and
function
safety
standpoint.
H
They
had
no
concerns
about
this
proposal
because
we'd
essentially
be
mirroring
the
north
side
of
biltmore
avenue,
and
you
know,
what's
been
what's
been
said,
is
that
well
there's
a
lot
more
restaurants
and
a
lot
more
deliveries
happening
on
the
south
side
of
college
and
patent
on
the
I'm
sorry,
I'm
biltmore,
south
of
college
and
patent.
H
I
don't
know
that.
That's
I
I
don't
have
data
on
that.
I
I
think,
like
anecdotally,
that's
probably
accurate.
Our
hope
is
that
we
can
provide
some
more
loading
activity
so
that
we're
not
having
delivery
drivers
just
double
parking.
H
So
you
know,
I
can't
promise
that
our
proposal
at
the
moment
for
additional
loading
zones
will
fix
all
of
the
loading
issues,
but
we
do
have
the
ability
in-house
to
make
adjustments
to
loading
zones
and
parking
spaces,
and
so
that's
something
that
we
could
continue
to
tweak
if
we
need
to
and
as
well
as
on
haywood
as
well,
which
I
hear
it
continues
to
happen
there.
H
Your
second
question
about
reverse
engineering,
so
I
let
me
share
a
tab.
That's
going
to
be
a
little
hard
to
see,
but
what
you're
talking
about
is
exactly
what
we
do,
except
we're,
not
really
reverse
engineering,
it
we're
it's
all
being
planned
simultaneously.
So
we
have
a
number
of
bike
lanes
in
the
downtown
area.
H
We
have
some
planned
bike
lanes
for
the
center
portion
of
college
and
patton
between
pritchard
park
and
and
biltmore.
So
we
are.
We
are
in
real
time
trying
to
put
the
network
together.
I
wish
I
could
just
like
plop
down
a
connected
network
where
bike
lanes
connect
to
greenways
and
vice
versa,
and
everything
falls
into
place
perfectly,
but
obviously
we
can't
do
it
that
way.
So
what
what
we're
doing
is
when
we
have
an
opportunity
to
put
something
in
to
make
another
piece
of
the
puzzle?
H
H
So
what
you're
saying
kimmy
is
exactly
what
we're
trying
to
do
and
that's
what
my
whole
transportation
team
is
is
working
towards
with
the
gap
plans
with
the
aim
plan
is
trying
to
make
these
connections
yeah.
C
A
Sure
that's
a
great
question.
I
I'm,
I
think,
because
if
these
are
just
you
know,
restriping
type
projects
it
it
might
leave
some
flexibility
there
jessica,
I'm
not
sure.
If
there's
any
plans,
I'm
not
aware
of
any
plans
and
it
works
for
currently
for
these
corridors
for
any
widened
sidewalks.
But
I
know
that
remains.
A
I
know
something
we've
been
looking
at
and
we're
actually
going
to
talk
about
this
a
little
bit
later
this
morning
with
design
guidelines
or
design
standards
for
downtown
is
whether
or
not
we
would
want
to
consider
in
the
future,
making
any
changes
to
setbacks,
for
example,
for
new
buildings
to
be
able
to
provide
opportunities
for
wider
sidewalks
when
when
we
don't
have
the
right-of-way
room
to
do
that
within
the
public
right
away,
but
there
might
be
opportunities
to
you
know:
widen
sidewalks
partially
on
private
property.
H
Yeah
I
I
would
just
add
that
the
the
double-edged
sword
of
a
bike
lane
addition
just
being
paint.
The
good
thing
is
that
it's
just
paint
and
it
can
be
changed
and
it's
not
as
significant
as
an
investment,
as
you
know,
something
like
the
rad
tip,
where
we've
got
a
awesome
cycle
track
with
a
concrete
separation,
and
so
you
know
if
there
were
a
larger
scale,
reconstruction
plan
kind
of
like
what
was
done
with
haywood
street,
then
maybe
we
would
make
different
choices
about
okay.
H
Well,
maybe
bike
lanes
isn't
great
here,
less
wide
and
sidewalks.
I
don't
know,
but
that's
that's
a
much
more
significant
expensive
project
and
then
the
flip
side
of
it
only
being
paid.
Is
that
it's
not
the
most
ideal
bike
lane.
I
would
readily
admit
that,
of
course,
I
would
love
to
have
a
protected
separated
with
a
concrete.
H
H
I
have
no
idea
why,
but
they
are
going
to
look
at
that.
They
have
indicated
that
they
think
that
it's
very
likely
we
can
have
the
speed
limit
reduced,
potentially
not
to
20
but
potentially
to
25.
I'm
not
quite.
I
still
haven't
quite
figured
out
why
that
section
of
biltmore
is
considered
different
than
the
northern
section.
It's
all
got
just
as
much
activity
in
my
opinion,
but
if
we
can
get
the
speed
limit
down,
hopefully
that
will
result
in
people
going
slower.
H
H
So
if
we
reduce
it
from
two-way
and
southbound
to
one
it's
probably
going
to
result
in
slower
speeds,
naturally,
whether
the
speed
limit
is
changed
or
not,
and
then
kimmy
I
wanted
to
follow
up
on
one
of
your
questions
from
the
last
downtown
commission.
H
I'm
sorry,
I
know
I'm
taking
up
some
time
here,
but
one
of
your
questions
was
regarding
whether
people
in
wheelchairs
would
be
able
to
use
bike
lanes
and
what
I
I
started
a
conversation
with
our
city
attorney's
office
about
this
question.
As
you
can
imagine,
state
law
is
not
always
like
clear
cut
and
dried
they.
The
city
attorney's
office,
thinks
that
we
can
pass
a
local
ordinance
that
would
clarify
and
allow
people
in
wheelchairs,
whether
they're,
motorized
or
unmotorized,
and
potentially
other
types
of
mobility
devices
to
be
able
to
use
bike
lanes.
H
Even
if
there
is
a
sidewalk
adjacent
because
you
know
quite
frankly,
not
all
of
our
sidewalks
are
100
accessible.
So
that's
a
separate,
a
separate
effort,
but
I
think
that
is
something
very
worthwhile
for
us
to
pursue,
because
it
would,
you
know,
apply
city-wide,
not
just
in
this
particular
case.
B
B
First
of
all,
I
want
to
make
sure
I
understand
jessica,
so
the
timing
and
the
rush
and
the
process
is
really
because
we
found
out
that
d.o.t
is
repaving
and
we
could
kind
of
jump
on
and
piggyback
onto
the
work
they're
already
doing.
That's
the
reason.
The
schedule
and
the
process
has
gone
kind
of
the
way
it's
gone.
Is
that
correct.
H
I
would
say
partly
yes,
but
I
mean
just
for
transparency
sake
like
we.
We
knew
that
they
were
repaving
the
road
a
couple
years
ago.
We
got,
I
think,
as
a
staff
across
departments
got
super
consumed
with
the
merriman
conversation.
H
And
we
had
talked
to
dot
about
this
particular
section
and
the
possibility
of
reconfiguring
it
back
in
a
couple
years
ago
in
the
beginning,
and
they
didn't
have
any
issue
with
it
and
then
a
few
months
ago
they
said
well,
we
want
you
to.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
you
use
it
on
public
comment
on
this
and.
L
B
H
Like,
oh,
yes,
that
is
something
that
we
should
have
done,
and
so
it's
it's
really
just.
H
B
Okay,
thank
you,
I'm
going
to
let
megan
speak
and
then
I
want
to
just
kind
of
walk
through
some
of
the
public
comments
that
both
we
received
and
that
you
received
go
ahead.
Megan.
D
Thank
you
just
a
couple
of
quick
points:
the
illegal
loading
activity,
whether
it's
a
travel
lane,
a
bike
lane
or
even
a
fire
lane
in
some
cases,
is
going
to
continue
unless
there's
some
enforcement.
I
know
you
know
that
I
know
it's
challenging,
but
we
can
expect
to
see
it
on
biltmore
avenue
as
well,
and
then
I
think
we've
been
focused
on
the
bike
lane
part
of
this
project,
but
I
just
want
to
remind
everyone
that
this
is
a
major
repaving
project
through
the
middle
of
our
downtown
and
encourage
jessica.
D
H
Sorry
popping
fit
so
originally
they
told
me
that
today
we
needed
to
have
a
decision,
but
I
I'm.
I
know
that
that
I
have
at
least
till
monday
now.
G
E
H
What
the
decision
was
is
not
in
the
office
today,
so
I
have
a
meeting
scheduled
monday
morning
with
the
city
manager
and
the
assistant
city
manager
to
talk
through
this
and
I'm
going
to
share
with
deborah
this
afternoon.
All
of
the
public
comments
this
memo
in
particular,
because
I
think
I
think
it
outlines
most
of
the
most
of
it,
and
so
I
I,
unless
I
hear
differently
from
dot,
I
think
monday
is
probably
the
decision
day,
but
it's
possible.
H
They
could
email
me
monday
morning
and
say
yeah
you've
got
another
month
or
something
I'm
not
sure,
oh
and
then,
on
your
point
about
yes,
this
is
a
major
project.
That's
going
to
have
logistics
and
I've
been
really
pushing
them
to
get
out
information
to
us
and
all
what
I've
been
told-
and
this
is
very
loose-
is
that
all
the
work
will
happen
overnight.
H
I
don't
know
what
overnight
means
to
them.
They
I've
also
been
told
that
they
will
not
be
fully
closing
any
section
of
roadway
at
any
time,
so
there
should
be
at
least
you
know
one
traffic
lane
in
each
direction
at
all
times,
and
this
is
for
the
whole
stretch
of
es25.
H
And
then
the
other
big
part
that
is
not
really
well
known
is
that
whenever
there's
a
repaving
project,
whether
it's
the
city
or
the
state,
they
have
to
upgrade
curb
ramps
that
are
not
compliant.
So
there
will
be
a
component
of
this
and
I
think
they've
actually
started
doing
some
curb
ramp
work
on
marimen.
H
So
there
will
be
a
component
of
this
where
there
will
be
curb
ramps
ripped
out
and
replaced,
which
is
obviously
going
to
have
some
sidewalk
closures
associated
with
it.
And
so
I
know
that's
another
big
potential
impact
to
businesses,
and
so
I
want
I'm
trying
my
best
to
get
them
to
give
us
the
information,
and
I
I
will
say
that
it's
not
been
super.
B
Easy
so
so
we
received
three,
I
I
have
three
public
comments
we
received
either
via
email
or
transcript
of
a
call.
Do
we
have
any
other
public
comment
or
any
callers
on
the
line
currently
make
sure
we
address
public
comment.
Thank
you.
Avery.
E
Yeah,
we
do
have
several
callers
on
the
line.
B
Okay,
so
so
let
me
let
me
read
the
or
or
summarize
we
have
a
comment
from
james
hauser
regarding
he's
a
owner
of
two
properties
and
basically
is
objecting
to
these
and
would
prefer
just
the
25
mile,
an
hour,
speed
limit.
B
We
have
one
from
david
scott,
a
business
owner
at
19
biltmore
and
is
not
opposed
based
on
reducing
the
lane
reduction.
We
have
one
from
larry
weaver,
who
owns
a
downtown
business
and
is
familiar
with
this
part
of
biltmore
avenue
is
also
not
in
support.
So
if
you
could
go
ahead
and
and
then,
of
course,
I
think
jessica
linked
to
the
public
comments
that
were
received,
that
we
that
she
has
received
or
the
the
city
of
actual
has
received
in
the
process
as
well.
B
L
L
L
L
B
M
The
mayor's
statement
yesterday
quoted
aesthetics
and
safety
as
prime
drivers,
and
that
ought
to
end
the
land
swap
right
now
recall
that
lexington
avenue
was
designated
as
one
of
the
great
places
in
america
by
the
american
planning
association.
M
Aesthetics
removes
beautiful
forests,
replacing
them
with
a
huge
wall
that
deteriorates
from
day
one
attracting
graffiti
and
increases
risk
of
flooding
by
replacing
water,
absorbing
forests
with
hardscape
safety.
The
high
retaining
wall
and
equipment
and
power
lines
on
top
along
with
the
feeder,
high
voltage
lines
and
pylons,
makes
the
neighborhood
and
environments
far
less
welcoming,
leading
to
the
creation
of
a
heat
island
and
opening
up
a
likely
increase
in
crime
also
abandoned
buildings
when
a
neighborhood
dies
and
its
residents
want
to
live,
work
and
visit
there
and
don't
want
to
be
there
anymore.
M
M
It
also
appears
that
there
is
economic
benefit
to
the
city
and
civic
center
as
a
major
driver
for
moving
the
substation
away
from
the
civic
center.
No
plans
costs
or
anticipated
income
have
been
made
public
yet
in
their
deliberations.
Both
the
planning
and
economic
development
commission
and
the
city
council
point
out
the
loss
of
35
monthly
parkers
as
the
only
negative
concern,
while
the
aesthetic
and
economic
impacts
on
lexington
are
not
considered.
M
I
also
wonder
how
the
city
plans
to
fund
an
over
100
million
dollar
renovation
of
the
thomas
wolfe
auditory.
Would
this
be
paid
for
by
a
general
obligation
bond
which
would
raise
taxes
over
60
businesses
and
a
thousand
residents
stand
to
lose
with
20
businesses
directly
impacted
by
two
years
of
construction,
which
would
involve
the
foundations
and
footings
and
building
of
the
huge
wall
likely
seismic
shaking,
not
to
mention
the
placement
of
pylons
on
private
property?
M
I
might
mention
that
I
was
eating
dinner
in
the
patio
of
high
washikudo
restaurant
and
it
is
magical
thanks
in
part
to
the
wonderful
song
of
the
cicadas.
This
restaurant
is
on
lower
north
lexington
avenue
and
would
be
right
in
front
of
the
wall,
and
this
the
cicadas
bring
the
sound
of
the
country
into
the
city
and
that
song,
and
also
the
hopes
and
dreams
and
livelihood
of
the
community
and
the
beauty
of
its
forest
would
be
forever
silenced.
M
K
Yes,
hello,
I
am
calling
in
about
the
substation
project,
I'm
opposed
to
the
land
swap
and
I'm
in
favor
of
duke
rebuilding
the
substation
in
its
current
location.
K
The
other
day
I
was
at
the
site
of
the
back
of
harris
cherokee
center
and
the
thomas
wolfe
auditorium.
I
looked
down
below
to
the
current
substation
on
rankin
and
noticed
how
far
below
the
substation
actually
is
about
20
feet.
The
substation
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
back
of
heras
or
thomas
wolf.
In
fact,
there
is
a
very
large
area
below
where
duke
can
rebuild
and
expand
its
current
substation
by
including
the
two
city
surface
parking
lots
on
either
side
of
the
substation.
K
The
city
gives
the
reason
for
the
swap,
as
the
thomas
wolf
needs
better
access
to
the
back
of
the
house
to
put
on
bigger
shows,
but
looking
at
it,
if
duke
removed
the
substation,
how
would
it
be
possible
to
get
a
large
truck
with
sets
up
from
rankin
to
the
back
of
thomas
wolfe?
The
raid
is
too
steep
to
build
a
ramp.
It
makes
no
sense.
K
Another
reason
the
city
gives
removing
the
substation
is
to
have
better
access
to
harrah's
civic
center
for
maintenance,
from
what
I
saw
duke
can
renovate
and
rebuild
in
their
current
location,
and
it
would
leave
plenty
of
room
for
the
access
to
the
back
of
thomas
wolf.
I'm
sure
duke
can
figure
out
easier
access
to
harrah's
for
maintenance.
K
Rebuilding
the
substation
in
its
current
location
would
allow
the
city
to
renovate
the
thomas
wolf.
The
way
it
would
like
have
access
to
the
loading
dock
from
haywood
restaurant
haywood
road.
Next
to
the
library
where
there
is
currently
plenty
of
room
keeping
the
substation
where
it
is,
would
not
harm
the
sixty
businesses
and
one
thousand
residents
of
lexington
avenue
would
not
destroy
the
charming
and
historic
lexington
avenue
neighborhood
and
it
would
maintain
the
precious
urban
forest
of
lexington
avenue.
K
What
may
have
initially
looked
good
to
the
city
and
duke
on
a
map
sails
completely
in
reality
by
simply
moving
the
substation
across
the
street
means
removing
the
trees
which
currently
provide
the
perfect
screening
for
the
current
substation
building
a
wall.
Having
a
giant
eyesore
that
would
loom
over
lexington
avenue
and
be
a
hideous
view
for
the
whole
community,
moving
the
substation
to
57
rankin
parking
lot
would
be
detrimental
to
the
lexington
avenue
neighborhood
and
the
whole
downtown
asheville.
I'm
disheartened
that
the
city
does
not
seem
to
have
given
it
any
thought.
B
Well,
seeing
as
we
had
no
public
comment
regarding
this
issue,
I
guess
it's
not
a
big
deal,
all
right,
so
jessica,
you
and
need
for
us
to
consider
you're
asking
us
to
consider
whether
the
proposed
edition
of
the
loading
zones
and
bicycle
lanes
as
detailed
in
your
memo
and
also
on
those
two
additional
sheets-
a1
loading
zones
and
a2
loading
zone.
Diagrams.
B
You
want
us
to
consider
reviewing
the
proposed
design,
consider
review
public
comments
that
have
been
received
and
provide
recommendations
to
staff
on
potential
revisions
to
the
proposed
design.
If
any-
and
you
need
that
by
today,
so
that
you
can
communicate
anything
to
dot
on
monday
is
that
correct
have
a
good
handle
on
it?.
H
B
Thank
you,
okay,
so
we
had
a
few
people,
kind
of
speak,
we've
heard
from
sage
and
megan
and
and
just
some
questions
from
stephen
lee,
guillot
or
ricardo
or
ruth.
Do
you
folks
have
any
comments
on
any
of
this,
and
maybe
we
can
build
some
kind
of
understanding
that
jessica
can
take
with
her.
G
I
have
a
number
I
guess
of
issues
I
just
feel
like
this
was
rushed
to
us.
We
really
didn't
have
the
time
to
study
the
report.
G
G
B
Mr
ruth,
before
you
go,
would
you
support
lowering
the
speed
limit
between
aston
and
is
that
hilliard,
where
it
comes
in.
B
Thank
you:
okay,
guillo
ricardo.
B
He
was
uncharacteristically
quiet,
no
okay.
Well,
I
I'll
I'll
go
ahead
and
speak
my
my
take
on
it.
I
don't
know
if
this
is
a
consensus.
Take
jessica
is
that,
if
you're
talking
about
like,
I
think
I
heard
you
mention
a
25
30
000
to
restripe
it
like,
if
you
striped
it
and
we
didn't
like
it,
you'd
be
25
30
000,
to
put
it
back.
If
you're
only
talking
about
25,
30
000,
I
would
not
be
in
support
of.
B
If
that's
what
we're
talking
about,
I
would
prefer
you
slow
down
and
and
and
do
a
formal,
a
lot
longer
formal
process
to
figure
out
exactly
where
everything
was
going
to
go
to
build
that
kind
of
community
consensus
that
I
don't
think
you
currently
have,
especially
if
you're
only
talking
about
I
mean,
even
if
it's
fifty
thousand
dollars.
That
just
seems
to
me
to
be.
I
know
that
that's
money
that
would
not
be
spent
by
the
city
and
then
suddenly
would
be
spent
by
the
city,
but
that
seems
to
be
prudent.
E
Well,
I
I
think
what
you
just
brought
up
is
it's
a
process,
that's
being
rushed
so
quickly.
I
would
have
liked
to
seen
have
seen
other
alternatives.
I
am
concerned
about
the
the
proposal
of
if
we
add
bike
lanes,
that
they
be
used
by
people
with
disabilities.
That's
that's
a
huge
conflict.
E
It's
it's
right
now
what
I'm?
Seeing
with
what.
E
Jessica,
I
I
think
that's
going
to
be
exacerbate
the
congestion,
that's
already
in
that
that
section
of
of
road-
and
I
I
just
I'm
concerned
about
how
quickly
this
is
going
without
without
seeing
any
alternatives.
F
Thanks,
I
think
brian.
I
absolutely
agree.
I
think
that
yeah,
you
know,
that's
that's
the
kind
of
money
we're
talking
about
it's.
It's
definitely
worth
just
kind
of
you
know,
pumping
the
brakes
a
little
bit
and
and
doing
something
more
more
thorough
and
you
know
getting
getting
a
sort
of
broader
process
in
place.
F
I
think
you
know
my
gut
says
that,
and
this
would
actually
work
even
as
proposed,
but
the
fact
that
you
know
we
haven't
had
good
a
good
chance
to
review
it,
and
you
know
in
a
good
you
know
and
and
that
there
aren't
other
options
that
that
we
can
think
creatively
about
and
speak
creatively
about
is
is
problematic
but
yeah.
I
just
wanted
to
reiterate
that,
because
it's
it's
a
you
know
it's
a
great
great
point.
B
My
my
take
is
that
the
consensus
would
be
that
the
the
downtown
commission,
if
we
were
to
hold
a
formal
vote,
would
not
be
in
support
of
the
bike
lanes
and
loading
zones
as
as
currently
presented,
and
I
mean,
if
you
want
me
to
take
a
vote
I
can
and
if
our
other
commissioners
want
me
to
take
a
vote
I
can.
But
I
would.
I
would
prefer
that
that
that
the
city
of
asheville
basically
re-stripe
it
the
way
it
is,
and
we
have
a
longer
process
to
do
that.
B
The
one
thing
that
I
would
say
I
would
be
in
full
support
of-
and
I
think
the
majority
of
the
commissioners
would
be
in
full
support
of-
would
be
lowering
the
speed
limit
between
aston
and
hilliard.
I
don't
think
anybody's
gonna
gonna,
I
don't
know
I
that
that
makes
no
sense
to
me
the
way
it
is
now
and
I
don't
know
why
it
would
be
20.
go
ahead.
Give.
E
F
B
It
it
it,
it
would
just
help
people
coming
from
if
they're,
visitors
and
they're
coming
up
from
the
village
or
that
area
where
they're
staying
and
they're
coming
into
downtown
it
just
lets
them
know.
You
need
to
slow
down
you're
coming
into
a
congested
area.
Yeah.
B
B
Okay,
well,
jessica.
Thank
you
for
your
your
work
and
your
in
your
availability
and
willingness
to
listen
to
us.
We
sure
appreciate
it
and
we'll
we'll
we'll
we'll
pitch
in
on
any
future
updates
that
you
might
have.
Thank
you.
B
I'm
gonna
I'm
already
over
time.
I
was
hoping
to
get
done
a
little
early
today,
downtown
design,
guidelines,
todd
and
robin
and
will-
and
I
had
a
conversation
earlier
this
week
regarding
kind
of
where
we
are
I've
expressed
some.
B
Concerns
regarding
how
we
as
a
downtown
commission,
are
reviewing
projects
and
then
how
the
drc
is
reviewing
projects
and
kind
of
understanding
our
roles
well
and
and
what
we're,
what
we're
supposed
to
be
looking
at
not,
and
we
all
would
like
to
have
a
better
set
of
guidelines
that
we
could
spring
off
of
both.
We
have
all
these
different
policies.
B
Documents
that
we
use
the
comp
plan,
the
master
plan,
you
know
the
multimodal
plan,
different
quarter
studies
and
things
like
that
and
the
way
we
left
it
is
that
we
know
that
we
need
to
do
a
more
comprehensive
project
at
some
point
in
the
future.
We'd
be
in
the
city
of
asheville.
But
until
that
happens
we
all
need
to
do-
or
at
least
I
know
I
need
to
do
a
better
job
of
speaking
in
the
terms
of
the
guidelines
that
we
have
and
understanding
and
reviewing
those
projects.
B
So
that's
a
that's
an
ongoing
thing.
We're
gonna,
basically
we're
gonna.
Do
some
intermediate
steps
of
I'm
gonna,
do
a
little
bit
of
more
work
on
that
matrix
that
dana
developed
for
us
from
some
stuff
that
stephanie
had
for
the
downtown
commission
and
then
a
similar
one
for
the
the
design
review
commission
so
that
we
we
know
when
we
can
kind
of
push
on
people,
because
I
know
I
have
been
frustrated
with
the
process
and
I
know
some
other.
B
The
developers
have
been
frustrated
with
the
process
and
feeling
like
that
or
or
seeing
a
a
level
of
predictability
on
what
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
what
we're
talking
about
now.
B
If
that
makes
no
sense
to
any
of
you,
I'm
happy
to
explain
it
further,
but
I'm
pretty
sure
carter
knows
exactly
guillot
know
exactly
what
we're
talking
about,
because
it
has
just
been
very
frustrating
for
the
designers
and
for
the
reviewers
on
at
both
this
commission
and
the
drc
in
in
some
of
the
projects
that
we've
been
pushing
on
and
even
when
they've
been
a
success,
was
something
that
I
would
consider
to
be
a
success.
The
the
process
itself
has,
I
felt
like
that.
B
It
was
difficult
to
communicate
to
the
applicant
what
it
was
we
were
going
to
be
looking
for
and
what
we're
wanting
from
them,
and
that's
really
what
I'm
trying
to
to
get
to
is
that
I
want
a
more
transparent
process
with
some
more
objective
guidelines
that
are
that
are
clearly
stated
to
the
applicant
before
they
get
to
us,
so
that
they're
they
don't
at
least
if
they
act
surprised.
It's
not
it's,
it's
it's
on
them.
B
Does
that
make
sense
to
everybody
kind
of
what
we're
talking
about
and
doing-
and
I
know
that's
a
little
more
difficult
when
we're
talking
about
things
like
what
we
look
at
in
terms
of
broader
policy
initiatives
with
the
downtown
commission,
but
I
still
believe
that
we,
we
can
do
a
better
job
of
communicating
the
applicants,
the
kinds
of
things
that
we're
looking
for.
So
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
we've
been
having
those
discussions
updates
and
reports,
I'm
going
to
jump,
go
ahead
and
jump
on
to
those
stephen
lee.
I
Yeah
very
quickly,
so
the
design
review
committee
met
on
july
21st.
We
had
two
items:
we
reviewed
some
basic
exterior
rehab
on
58,
north
lexington,
and
the
second
project
was
the
new
micro
housing
proposal
between
aston
and
saul
streets.
It's
basically
two
seven
story,
buildings
and
one
one
floor:
building,
rehab.
I
I
B
Yeah
yeah
you'd
think
we
were
in
support
of
it.
The
way
people
are
yelling
at
us.
I
thought
we
were
fairly
clear:
actual
downtown
association,
megan.
D
Yeah
just
a
couple
of
things
I
might
have
mentioned
this
last
month,
but
we
are
going
to
embark
on
our
walkability
study
again
this
year.
We
used
to
do
it
every
other
year.
D
We
did
not
do
one
in
2020
or
2021.,
and
this
is
really
a
review
of
generally
the
pedestrian
experience
in
downtown
and
we
collect
the
data
through
an
app
that
was
built
by
the
city's
gis
department
and
it
looks
at
everything
from
sidewalk
obstructions
to
tree
trimming
needed
trip
hazards,
lighting
all
of
those
things
and
we've
worked
with
the
public
works
department
to
come
up
with
those
issues,
I'm
going
to
put
a
link
in
the
chat
because
it
would
be
awesome
to
have
some
downtown
commissioners
volunteer
to
be
part
of
that
process.
D
We'll
give
you
two
weeks,
so
you
can
do
it
at
your
own
leisure.
When
you
have
time,
but
it's,
I
think,
a
great
way
to
really
get
out
and
really
think
about
the
pedestrian
experience.
We
also
like
to
think
about
it
and
look
at
it
for
folks
with
disabilities.
So
if
you
know
of
anyone
who
might
be
able
to
help
us
in
that
regard,
I
think
that's
a
really
important
perspective
to
get
as
well
candidate
forum,
we're
looking
to
do
a
candidate
forum
for
mayoral
and
city
council
candidates
right
now.
D
It's
just
juggling
trying
to
find
the
right
date
because
there
are
other
forums
already
scheduled
and
things
like
that.
But
as
soon
as
we
have
that
scheduled,
I
will
let
you
know.
Hopefully
you
can
attend
and
if
you
have
topics
you
want
us
to
consider
asking
these
candidates,
please
let
us
know
we
do
focus
on
those
candidates
because
they
do
tend
to
make
the
decisions
that
are
most
impactful
for
downtown
we're.
D
We're
also
looking
to
oh
we're
not
looking
to.
We
will
be
bringing
back
our
building
our
city
speaker
series.
You
all
might
remember
that
from
pre-covered
we
had
a
lot
of
awesome
speakers
come
in
and
talk
about
topics
that
are
relevant
to
downtown
and
the
community
as
a
whole.
The
grove,
arcade
public
market
foundation.
D
Thank
you,
ruth
will
be
our
presenting
speaker
sponsor
and
we'll
be
working
with
urban
three
on
content,
so
we're
looking
at
like
topics
like
solutions
to
homelessness,
obviously
really
important
small
infield
development,
the
importance
of
investing
in
downtown.
So
again,
you
know
if
you
have
topics
you'd
like
us
to
consider-
or
you
want
to
be
a
part
of
that-
please
let
me
know
we're
looking
to
do
one
in
october
and
then
quarterly
in
2023
and
I'm
just
gonna.
D
We
have
a
downtown
after
five
august,
19th
awesome
band
from
austin
and
then
an
awesome
local
band.
Please
come
out
and
then,
if
it's
cool,
I'm
just
gonna
roll
into
homelessness,
yep,
okay!
So
just
a
couple
of
points
on
homelessness.
I'm
sorry!
I
didn't
send
a
report,
but
the
the
couple
of
main
points
here
that
everyone
knows
that
the
city,
county
and
dogwood
health
have
contracted
with
the
national
alliance
to
end
homelessness,
to
study
unsheltered
homelessness
in
our
community.
They
are
currently
in
phase
one,
which
is
data,
collection
and
needs
assessment.
D
I'm
also
going
to
drop
a
link
to
a
survey
in
the
chat
that
the
alliance
has
put
out
for
public
input.
Hopefully
you
all
will
do
that
and
share
that
with
others.
There's
also
some
meetings
occurring
I'll,
be
part
of
a
business
group
meeting
next
week
to
talk
with
the
alliance
about.
You
know,
issues
that
are
being
brought
forth
by
the
business
community.
D
The
continuum
of
care
funding
is,
is
that
deadline
has
been
set.
The
city,
of
course,
works
on
that.
I
think
it's
about
almost
two
million
dollars
that
we're
eligible
for
for
permanent,
supportive
housing
and
other
projects,
and,
lastly,
more
good
news
or
good
news.
At
least
I
suppose,
is
that
they're
hiring,
I
believe,
for
three
new
positions
in
the
homeless
strategy
division.
D
So
I
think
that's
an
important
step
that
the
city
is
taking
to
build
that
department
up
so
that
they
can
can
make
make
more
impact
in
the
community,
and
I
think
that's
it.
I'll
drop
those
links
in
the
chat.
B
Thank
you.
That's
awesome,
andrew's,
not
here,
so
skip
that
one
and
we
are
not
going
to
do
a
downtown
update
report
because
we
kind
of
just
covered
everything
anyway
and
we'll
we'll
we'll
circle
back
to
dana
when
she
returns
sage.
Did
you
have
anything
you
wanted
to
talk
about.
J
I'll
share
a
couple
things
I
think
megan
just
did
a
great
job
of
several
of
the
items,
and
then
you
of
course,
have
already
heard
about
the
substations
and
the
bike
lanes,
which
are
two
hot
topics
related
to
downtown
I'll
share
that
we
have
an
update
on
the
portland
lou.
There
will
be
a
portland
loo
installed
and
the
kickoff
process
first
meeting
was
just
this
week,
maybe
last
week,
and
the
costs
have
kind
of
jumped
around
since
the
first
bid,
so
we're
getting
them
bid
again.
J
There
will
be
one
it's
college
and
rankin
where
there's
a
temporary
restroom
reportage
on
right
now
and
once
we
know
those
final
costs,
the
remaining
funds
will
be
used
to
update
or
work
on
the
other
remaining
bathroom
facilities
in
downtown
we're
just
not
able
to
say
a
number
yet,
but
the
original
proposal
was
for
two
portland
lose,
but,
along
with
the
process,
as
the
cost
had
more
than
doubled,
I
think
we've
removed
it
just
to
one
so
good
update
there,
24-hour
bathrooms
are
coming
soon
and
megan
was
just
talking
about
the
study.
J
We
do
expect
to
have
this
study
back
november
december
on
all
of
our
issues
around
mental
health
and
unhouse
and
our
needs
in
the
community
and
just
the
full
needs
assessment
and
so
megan's
right
we're
staffing
up
in
preparation
so
that
we
can
move
quickly-
and
I
know
you
guys
are
running
over
so
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions,
but
that'll
be
it
for
my
updates.
Today.
D
Just
a
quick
any
talk
about
the
29
hayward
street
restrooms.
J
B
Regarding
the
substation
very
quickly,
I
I
know
the
substation
was
going
to
be.
You
know
a
level
one
or
whatever
project
and
was
is
not
really
required
to
come
to
this
this
body
as
a
as
a
topic
as
such
necessarily,
but
I
would
suggest
humbly
suggest
that
this
is
a
proper
forum
for
public
comment
for
that,
so
you
know
wha
whatever
happens
with
that
project,
I
I
I
think
this
needs
to
be
a
stop
along
the
way,
as
as
the
city
is
reviewing
options
with
duke.
J
I'm
happy
to
update.
There
is
a
little
backing
up,
so
the
community
meetings
were
canceled
yesterday
and
we
have
agreed
that
we
issued
a
statement.
We've
agreed
to
revisit
see
if
there's
some
better
outcomes
and
less
negative
impacts.
I
think
ideally
we'd
see
a
gis
system,
but
those
costs
are
so
extravagantly.
Significant
can
be
twice
as
much
but
better
footprint,
better
economic
gain.
There's
all
these
reasons,
but
we
are
going
to.
I
think,
they're
going
to
come
back
to
design
review
with
a
new
idea.
J
There
will
be
whatever
the
new
idea
becomes
at
the
neighborhood
meetings.
It
will
come
back
to
downtown
commission
as
well
have
requested
that
it
be
a
stop,
and
I
know
you
you
just
mentioned
you
could
hear
it
and
weigh
in,
but
I
would
actually
appreciate
significant
feedback
from
this
body
and
even
a
vote.
I
think
that
would
help
me
if
I
can't.
J
Council
and
then,
after
that,
it
would
go
to
ped
planning
and
economic
development,
which
I'm
also
on
and
then
council.
So
there's
several
meetings
left
and
there's
a
lot
of
rework
right
now.
B
Very
good,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
and
just
so
the
public
understands
the
the
previous
proposal
has,
for
all
intents
and
purposes
has
been
been
removed.
Whatever
we
see
will
be
something
very
different,
I
think
than
what
was
presented
to
the
design
review
commission.
J
B
Perfect
perfect,
thank
you.
That's
a
that's
the
kind!
Okay!
Are
there
any
other
items
that
we
need
to
discuss.
B
B
Thank
you
all
in
favor,
log
off
and
I'll
see
you
soon.