►
From YouTube: Human Relations Commission
Description
No description was provided for this meeting.
If this is YOUR meeting, an easy way to fix this is to add a description to your video, wherever mtngs.io found it (probably YouTube).
A
Welcome
asheville
and
the
world
good
afternoon,
I'm
human
relations
commission,
chair
tanya
rodriguez,
and
I
would
like
to
welcome
you
to
the
march
17
2022
human
relations
commission.
Virtual
meeting
we
are
coming
to
you
live
from
the
cherokee
homeland,
where
the
eastern
band
of
cherokee
indians
remain
a
sovereign
nation.
To
this
day,
we
will
now
call
our
meeting
to
order
duties
of
the
human
relations
commission
of
asheville
include,
but
are
not
limited
to
make
policy
recommendations
to
the
city
council
which
promote
and
improve
human
relations
and
advance
equity
in
the
city.
A
A
We
also
have
an
option
for
the
public
to
listen,
live
by
phone
by
dialing,
eight,
five,
five,
nine
two,
five,
two
eight
zero
one.
That
number
once
again
is
eight
five,
five,
nine
two
five,
two
eight
zero
one
and
entering
the
meeting
code.
Nine,
seven
two
for
those
of
you
who
plan
to
speak
during
our
live
public
comment.
Today,
you
will
need
to
hit
star
3
to
be
put
in
the
speaker,
queue
for
those
of
you
who
are
with
us
today,
virtually
and
listening
by
phone.
Welcome
we'll
now
bring
our
roll
call.
A
I
will
go
through
our
attendance
and
announce,
introduce
all
the
commission,
members,
staff
and
guests
who
are
participating
virtually
for
our
commission
members.
Please
make
sure
to
mute
your
microphone
if
you
are
not
speaking
when
you
have
a
question
or
you
would
like
to
speak,
click
ray's
hand
at
the
bottom
of
the
screen
and
when
recognized
by
me
or
brenda
unmute
your
microphone.
A
Please
remember
to
mute
your
my
earphone,
your
mic
after
you
are
done
speaking
commission
members,
as
I
call
your
name,
please
say
a
quick
hello,
tony
rodriguez,
hello,
vice
chair
brandon,
oliver.
A
Commissioner,
tiffany
fleury
flooney
double
president
commissioner
susie
chandler
hello,
not
present
is
commissioner
dolores
venable
vice
chair,
brandon
oliver,
commissioner
amanda
brimsef,
commissioner
emma
nicole
worthy.
A
A
Good
evening
to
begin
our
commission
agenda
items,
please
note
I
will
be
stating
each
agenda
item
out
loud
again.
I
ask
commission
members
to
please
click
raise
hand
to
be
recognized
to
speak.
Please
state
your
name
each
time.
You
comment
just
a
reminder
that
the
public
is
listening
on
the
phone
and
this
keeps
the
public
up
to
date
on
the
order
of
the
meeting
and
who
is
commenting
or
speaking,
do
we
have
a
forum
for
today's
meeting
today?
A
A
A
All
right,
since
we
do
have
a
forum,
let's
take
a
moment,
to
check
into
our
next
item
up
for
business
approval
of
minutes
for
january
20th,
meeting,
2022
and
february
17
2022
meeting,
since
we
need
a
quorum
to
be
present
to
vote
to
accept
these
minutes.
We
do
have
a
quorum
and
it's
a
roll
call
vote.
If
I'm
not
mistaken,
so
has
everybody
had
a
chance
to
review
those
minutes
and
do
we
have
a
motion
to
put
those
minutes
forward.
B
A
Great,
thank
you.
Can
we
get
a
motion
for
january
20th
minutes
for
approval.
A
F
G
A
Commissioner
espinoza
yay
as
well
mr
rodriguez.
A
January
minutes
are
approved
next
item
up
for
business
is
february
minutes.
Can
I
get
a
motion
for
february
minute
approval.
H
A
A
A
A
Moving
on
to
our
staff
updates
brenda,
how
are
we
doing
on
our
on
the
reparations
project?
We.
B
Are
so
excited
to
say
we
have
fully
staffed,
I
mean
I
mean
fully
approval
of
the
25.
B
B
Is
doing
so
that
they
keep
up
with
what
is
going
on
they're
going
to
be
having
an
extensive
onboarding,
which
includes
our
boards
and
commissions
orientation,
there's
complex
ventures
or
statement
of
commitment
that
we're
going
over
the
information
around
receiving
the
10.99
because
they
will
be
getting
stipends
for
their
work
on
this
board.
B
We're
looking
at
kicking
off
a
meeting
at
the
end
of
april
1st
of
may.
Additionally,
what
they're
going
to
be
put
through
is
also
a
training
on
race.
What
is
racial
equity
talking
about
what
is
reparations
versus
restorative
justice
and
then
legal,
our
city,
legal
staff,
as
well
as
county
legal
staff,
will
be
talking
to
them
around.
You
know
they
can
make
the
recommendations
they
need
to,
but
just
talking
to
them
around
the
parameters
of
recommendations.
B
What
is
doable,
what
may
have
challenges
so
we're
going
to
get
them
all
set
and
ready
to
go.
What
you
can
expect
is
that
the
full
commission
will
meet
at
least
once
a
month.
Each
of
the
impact
focus
areas,
criminal,
justice,
education,
economic
development,
housing
and
health
will
meet
separately
in
work
groups.
Those
will
not
be
a
public
meeting.
Those
recommendations
will
come
up
to
the
full
board
on
a
monthly
basis
and
we're
looking
at
having
our
first
set
of
recommendations
somewhere
around
the
end
of
the
summer.
B
First
of
all,
the
other
thing
on
my
agenda
was
your
resignations.
You
now
have
five
people
who
have
resigned.
I
caught
I
got
in
touch
with
the
last
person
chair
rodriguez,
we
had
talked
about
spoke
to
him
and
he
said
he
would
like
to
resign.
B
So
we
have
some
other
information
to
talk
to
around
your
rules
of
procedure.
So
you
can
decide
once
you
decide
what
you
would
like
to
do,
then
we'll
know
how
many
people
we
need
to
replace
on
your
board.
I
have
not
heard
anything
about
in-person
meetings.
Chair
young
had
asked
me
about
that
earlier.
B
I
will
check
with
the
clerk's
office.
I
think
we're
look,
we're
still
kind
of
being
a
little
careful,
so
it
may
be
another
month.
Maybe
two
I
don't
know
so
we
will
see
where
we
are
with
that,
but
I'll,
let
you
know
as
soon
as
possible.
I
know
you
guys
are
itching
to
go
back
in
person
and
see
each
other,
so
that
is
my
report
for
the
day.
Thank
you.
A
B
Is
talking
to
them
about
days
of
the
week
they
like
to
meet
time
of
day?
You
know
any
other
needs
that
they
have
beyond
like
technology
or
stipends
and
stuff
of
that
nature.
So
I'll,
let
you
know
more
and
we
will
keep
the
public
advised
whether
they
need
to
come
to
the
meeting
or
they
have
to
watch
online.
A
A
Live
meetings
or
anything
else,
wonderful,
moving
on
to
unfinished
business,
there's
an
update
to
key
actions.
We
all
received
a
form
and
would
you
like
to
would
you
like
to
jump
in?
No,
I
meant
to.
I
A
Looking
out,
we
received
in
our
email
information
an
update
to
the
key
actions
that
we
went
over
in
the
retreat.
A
So
did
everybody
get
a
chance
to
look
that
over
because
those
were
updated
as
per
our
last
meeting.
B
A
B
And
the
training
seminars
for
the
city
of
ashland
public
removed
under
inter-government
relations,
and
then
we
removed
the
cobit
19
outreach,
which
you
know
we
passed
that
other
than
that.
That
was
it.
Unless
somebody
has
some
questions.
E
A
E
A
I
think
my
okay.
A
You
next
item
up
for
business
is
new
business.
I
think
the
meeting
is
echoing
through
the
city
of
asheville.
You
too.
A
A
K
K
See
my
screen:
okay,
great
I'm
going
to
be
presenting
on
the
proposed
changes
to
the
human
relations
commission
of
actual
rules
of
procedure.
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
commissioners,
for
allowing
me
to
present
with
you
today
so
presentation
overview.
K
But
all
of
that
was
included
in
your
materials.
I
don't
think
the
presentation
was,
but
the
red
line
changes
to
the
procedures
was
included
in
your
materials,
as
well
as
the
original
procedures,
so
the
procedures
were
adopted
in
2018.
They
outline
your
mission,
the
responsibilities
of
the
commission,
the
terms
of
each
commissioner,
the
roles
of
your
commissioners,
your
meetings
and
then
any
voting
requirements.
K
However,
it
would
come
it's
coming
to
you
all
first
in
order
to
make
that
suggestion
to
counsel,
if
you
so
choose
to,
we
are
there's
also
a
suggestion
of
removing
the
classified
groups
from
membership
requirements
within
the
procedures
it
identifies
and
I'll
show
you
what
I'm
speaking
about.
Specifically.
When
I
get
to
the
actual
procedures
document,
it
requires
a
certain
number
of
individuals
from
specified
groups
to
include
african
americans,
latinx
community
and
then
different
individuals
from
the
various
communities
within
asheville,
north
asheville,
west
asheville,
south
asheville.
K
There
has
been
a
recent
update
to
majority
of
the
city's
boards
and
commission's
conflict
of
intersection
to
comply
with
some
state
statutes,
specifically
on
land
use
side,
but
we've
gone
through
and
updated
them
throughout
all
the
commissions
to
make
sure
they're
more
congruent
with
each
other,
so
that
is
one
of
the
biggest
changes
outside
of
those
that
have
already
been
mentioned.
K
Other
changes
are
to
for
clarification
and
grammatical
errors
that
were
noticed
within
the
procedures
themselves.
These
are
the
highlighting
major
ones,
and
then
I
will
get
to
the
reckon.
I
mean
one
second
I'll
pull
up
the
actual
document
and
then
I'll
take
any
questions.
F
Commissioner,
I
was
curious
about
how,
although
the
city
hasn't
formally
changed
or
modified,
how
the
commissions
are
structured,
but
I'm
wanting
to
know
how
this
works.
How
that
I
mean
how
that's
going
to
work
and
playing
with
those
changes
that
have
been
proposed
if
they're,
if
they're
passed,
if
they're
successful.
K
K
If
that
is
in
fact
passed,
then
I'm
I'm
not
100
sure
how
that
will
affect
the
hrca,
but
at
this
moment
there
has
been
no
restructuring
and
the
hrca
is
functioning
as
it
is
enabled
to
through
the
ordinance
that
put
it
in
place,
and
these
procedures
are
specific
for
the
hrc
editors
currently
functioning
at
this
time.
Since
there
has
been
no
restructuring
that
has
been
approved
by
council,
then
all
boards
and
commissions
are
functioning
as
they
are
unable
to
function.
K
I
believe
that'd
be
up
to
you
all
to
do
to
make
that
determination,
because
at
this
point,
that
restructuring
is
still
very
much
in
the
beginning
stages
of
getting
public
input
and
and
determining
if
that's
going
to
move
forward.
So
we
are
functioning
as
if
the
board
is
going
to
continue
in
perpetuality.
E
K
Through
the
application
application
process
that
is
set
up
for
the
boards
and
commission
to
the
clerk's
office,
what
your
order,
what
your
ordinance
and
your
procedures
limit
and
I'll
specifically
state
this-
that
the
commission
must
be
made
up
of
six
african-americans,
two
individuals
from
the
latinx
community,
two
individuals
from
the
lgbtq
community,
two
youth
members,
ages,
18
to
25
and
two
to
three
individuals
living
in
public
housing
and
two
with
disability.
K
When
we
make
we're
discussing
that,
we
feel
like
this
is
very
limiting.
So
in
order
to
provide
a
more
opportunity
from
for
different
individuals,
one,
we
included
native
american
individuals
as
well
as
asian
american
individuals,
individuals
to
encompass
a
more
diverse
community
and
removing
those
limit
requirements.
K
So
by
removing
the
six
and
the
two
and
the
three
it's
saying
that
you
can
have
significant
you
can
have
more
than
that
or
less
than
that,
it's
a
it's
based
on
the
application
process.
K
So
that
means
the
forum
is
50
plus
one.
If
there
were
15
individuals,
then
the
quorum
would
have
to
be
eight.
If
at
no
point
we
were
able
to
get
eight
members
and
all
business
would
be
stalled
for
the
commission.
That
means
that
no
voting
could
occur
due
to
there
not
being
a
quora
by
reducing
the
number
of
members
that
will
in
supposedly
increase
the
opportunity
to
have
business
being
conducted
because
it
reduces
the
number
for
required
for
a
quorum.
B
I'm
sorry
just
want
to
hang
out
with
what
you
said,
plus
you're,
tending
to
have
about
that
many
people
on
the
board
at
any
time
as
well
as
we
need
to
get
business
conducted,
so
you
do
need
to
have
a
quorum.
There
was
a
couple
of
months
where
we
did
not.
I
know
we
were
missing
one
person
on
medical
leave
and
there's
a
couple
of
people
we
finally
found
out
like
where
they
are
what's
going
on
with
them.
But
15
is
a
big
board.
B
It's
a
lot
of
folks
and
I
just
think
that
would
be
more
usable
and
that
way
you
would
only
have
to
have
six
folks.
Am
I
right
is
that
correct,
yeah
and
that's
what
we've
been
tending
to
have
about
six
or
seven.
E
B
The
other
thing
hold
on
a
second
and
the
other
thing
I
wanted
to
say
aaron.
If
I'm
not,
if
I'm
correct,
they
can
make
all
the
changes,
except
for
article
three
membership
that
would
have
to
go
back
to
council.
Is
this
correct?
That's.
K
K
A
I
do
have
a
question
rodriguez
share
the
on
b
for
article
3
under
membership.
The
popular
culture
is
moving
away
from
latinx
latinx
and
so
maybe
to
update
it
for
I've.
Seen
a
lot
of
inclusive
culture
put
in
the
word
latin
and
then
as
slash
a
slash
o
slash
e.
K
A
Yeah
and
and
then
in
that
way
that
it's
inclusive,
because
a
lot
of
spanish-speaking
culture
has
pushed
back
really
hard
on
the
acts
of
black
next,
and
so
it's
not
often
it's
not
spoken
among
not
in
the
culture
anymore.
In
fact,
it's
denounced
heavily,
so
just
update
that
item.
Thank
you,
commissioner.
F
Chandler
thank
you,
chair
rodriguez,
just
in
my
due
diligence
for
the
lgbtq
community.
Typically
lgbtqia
plus
anybody
else
got
any
other
letters.
F
A
plus
is
that
correct,
yeah
and
precise
asex,
and
so
on
is
the
plus
addition
as
well.
I
had
another
question
about
reducing
the
number
of
members
of
commissioners
on
the
board
and
I'm
wondering
if,
if
we're
dropping
that
level
down
to
where
we
are
because
we
feel
like
that,
many
people
will
come
here
or
we'll
be,
will
be
dropping
the
functioning
level.
If
we
have
about
60
of
our
members
showing
up
are
we
going
to
end
up
with
and
11
is
our
new
number?
F
K
K
Reducing
the
number
would
allow
business
to
move
forward
based
on
the
number
of
individuals
have
that
are
consistently
showing
up
at
meetings.
We
would
if
six
members
were
to
show
up
regularly,
we
would
regularly
have
a
forum
and
business
could
be
moving
forward,
as
always
for
every
boarding
commission.
C
Yes,
just
commissioner,
as
far
as
a
through,
I
that
stands
for
just
one
person,
except
for
ss,
stands
for
one
how
many
people
are
going
to
actually
be
on
a
through.
I.
K
C
K
C
C
Okay,
I
got
that
my
next
question
is,
if
I
had
a
problem
with
that
youth
members
between
ages
of
18,
25
and
the
18
to
25
wasn't
getting
it
for
me.
So
I
had
to
do
a
little
research
on
that.
As
far
as
you
know,
the
youth
age.
So
what
I
came
up
with
was
the
best
one
was
just
statistically
the
ages
in
the
us
and
united
nations
established
the
youth
ages
for
15
to
24..
C
C
Written
in
song,
for
you
know
them
saying
that's
what
the
used
pages
are,
but
that
would
be
more
inclusive
of
ages.
Instead
of
eight
you'd
have
10
age
groups
to
look
at.
As
far
as
you
know,
a.
M
Youth
representative,
so.
K
K
A
Well,
that
was
a
really
good
exchange.
I
do
have
one
more
chair
rodriguez
for
line
h.
It
says
individuals
with
a
disability
to
amend
to
individuals
who
are
differently
abled.
K
A
If
it
makes
sense
that
the
need
for
the
term
disability
is
in
there
for
compliance,
then
absolutely
to
keep
that
and
then
maybe
add
on,
like
with
the
latin.
A
What's
already
established,
as
far
as
federal
president
with
the
disability
act
and
then
also
bringing
in
inclusive
language,
which
sets
a
precedent
for
our
our
city
and
the
language
he's
within
it,.
F
The
first
place
of
chandler
just
to
add
on
to
that.
Perhaps
so
we
can
keep
that
language,
saying
individuals
impacted
by
a
disability
or
who
are
differently
abled,
because
our
we've
had
members
in
the
past
who
had
children
who
were
differently
abled
as
opposed
to
differently
abled
themselves.
And
I
feel
like
it's
important
to
include
that
as
well.
K
And
I
will
leave
that
determination
on
which
language
is
there
up
to
the
commission.
So
if
you,
whichever
you
will
determine,
is
the
better
language
for
your
commission
to
be
most
inclusive,
then
that's
what
that's
the
end
of
that.
A
Thank
you.
I
believe,
commissioner,
harold
had
her
hand
raised
and
then
commissioner,
double
up.
E
A
E
I
have
some
concerns
and
something
that's
just
not
sitting
right
with
me
and
I
understand
the
need
to
take
away
numbers
right,
but
I'm
thinking
with
intentionality
this.
This
commission
was
designed
and
created
to
support
racial
equity
right
and
I
mean
in
the
terms
of
anti-blackness
and
I'm
afraid.
If
we
take
away
a
actual
number,
especially
for
african-americans,
then
there's
not
going
to
be
a
lot
of
intentionality
of
making
sure
that
they're
in
those
slots.
K
So
that
is
one
of
the
reasons
to
remove
those
numbers,
and
then
the
other
reason
that
I
already
mentioned,
as
we
discussed,
was
to
ensure
that
there
can
be
inclusivity
so
that
we,
because
right
now
it
is
possibly
limiting
to
only
six
african-americans,
specifically
or
black.
E
So
I
hear
you,
I
just
have
some
reservation,
but
thank
you.
A
K
We
did
update.
I
did
update
this
section,
which
is
article
I
believe
it's
our
article
series
article
three
section
three,
this
this
is
a
grammatical
error
here
and
then
the
second
line
is
just
a
for
example.
What
fifty
percent
of
a
meeting
is?
It
is
a
requirement
that,
in
order
to
be
counted
in
attendance
as
a
commissioner
that
an
individual
would
have
to
participate
with
fifty
percent
of
the
meeting.
K
This
is
an
example
that
if
the
meeting
is
an
hour
and
a
half
that
the
commissioner
will
be
required
to
participate
for
45
minutes,
so
that
is
a
clarification
edit
section
under
meetings,
the
only
clarification
was
here
was
just
to
make
it's
currently
required
to
have
at
least
nine
meetings.
This
was
just
a
clarification
and
then
a
clarification
which
is
already
being
done,
that
the
commission
may
elect
to
have
additional
meetings
as
being
necessary
commission
which
is
already
occurring
so
there's
a
clarification
that
it
be
included
within
your
rules.
K
K
Section
two:
I
included
some
language
that
is
going
aligns
with
the
conflicts
of
interest,
so
any
refusal
of
members
from
participation
with
respect
to
certain
items
or
matters
due
to
a
conflict
of
interest
shall
not
destroy
our
forum,
provided
that
in
no
case
shall
an
action
be
taken
other
than
continuation
or
adjournment
of
the
meeting
by
less
than
five
members.
K
This
was
a
clarification,
updating
the
ordinance
which
is
enabling
the
human
relations
commission
of
asheville
on
moving
this
statute
here,
and
this
is
the
updated
conflicts
of
interest
section,
which
is
bringing
this
procedures
into
conformity
with
other
boards
and
commissions
across
the
city
and
updating
their
intersection,
and
then
the
I
believe
the
last
update
was
just
for
the
adoption
language
that
they'd
be
adopted
by
a
majority
of
commissioners.
K
So
you
can,
generally,
there
were
some
suggested
edits,
so
what
I
will
do
is
I
can
go
back
and
make
those
suggested
edits
that
have
been
provided
by
the
commission
and
then
bring
it
back
to
you
at
your
next
meeting.
K
A
Wonderful,
thank
you.
Welcome
vice
chair
brandon,
oliver,
our
next
item
up
for
business
are
our
committee
updates.
These
are
key
actions
from
our
retreat.
Please
keep
within
around
a
five
minute.
Each
we've
got
25
minutes
for
this
particular
action
item
for
inter-government
relations.
That's.
A
I
have
been
going
to
the
the
restructuring
plan,
meetings
and
learning
a
lot
about
that,
and
so
I
did
sign
up
for
the
working
group
for
that,
so
I'll
be
bringing
updates
from
that
working
group
to
us
so
that
we
can
kind
of
see
how
things
are
going
and
things
like
that
in
there
next
we
update
community
engagement
once
again
that
is
tiffany,
and
I
and
commissioner.
A
Harvey
community
relations
are
there
any
events
coming
up
that
we
might
be
able
to
get
a
booth
in
and
maybe
give
out
information
for
the
hrca
for
the
community.
Commissioner,
oliver
and
commissioner.
C
This
is
commissioner,
oliver
speaking
hello,
everyone
I'm
on
the
team
celebration
planning
committee,
and
I
was
thinking
that
if
there
that
would
be
a
good
place
to
get
the
word
out
to
the
community
as
well.
This
is
not
until
june,
so
I
just
wanted
to
put
it
on
the
college.
Did
you
you
mentioned
it?
Thank
you.
E
And
this
is,
commissioner,
so
the
climate
justice
project
had
just
completed
and
we're
going
to
now
have
a
celebration
coming
up
this
saturday
from
5
to
7
00
p.m,
and
that
would
be
a
great
time
that
another
commissioner
can
come
and
talk
a
little
bit
about
hrca.
E
We
plan
on
having
some
city
staff
present
council
members
and
the
mayor
and
also
a
dj,
dj
superman
and
some
caribbean
queenie's
island
cuisine
food.
So
please
come
out
and
enjoy
and
celebrate
our
climate
justice
project
and
also
to
talk
to
just
the
guests.
That's
there
about
hrca
and
again
that's
at
the
ymi
cultural
center
from
5
to
7
p.m.
This
saturday
march
19th
and
I
have.
E
So
I'm
currently
representing
and
sitting
on
the
african-american
heritage
trail
and
they're
they're,
looking
to
collect
more
stories
and
input.
So
if
any
anyone
who
has
information
or
connections
to
ask
millions
or
after
natives,
please
send
me
an
email
or
just
pass
a
name
along,
so
I
can
make
a
contact,
but
right
now
we're
just
looking
forward
to
getting
a
beautiful
trail
set
up.
That's
representing
black
asheville
and
the
changes
that
took
place
within
this
city.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
commissioner.
Moving
on
for
our
next
committee
update,
addressing
causing
issues
which
is
me
susie
and
melanie.
This
melanie
commissioner,
noyes
espinoza
will
be
presenting
a
recommendation
for
our
consideration.
A
I
Yes,
so
the
proposal
that
is
in
the
agenda
is
just
it's:
just
a
draft
we'll
be
continuing
to
work
on
it,
but
in
the
proposal
we
have
sanctuary
camping,
defined
as
intentional
spaces
on
a
public
property
in
which
people
who
are
unsheltered
may
stay
overnight
in
which
they
are
free
from
threat
of
removal
or
legal
penalty
and
where
they
may
get
their
basic
survival
needs
met
by
virtue
of
which
it
is
either
unsafe
and
or
unreasonable
for
unhoused
individuals
to
be
displaced
by
way
of
encampment
removal.
I
I
Remember
last
year
that
there
was
community-wide
outrage
over
the
encampment
sweep
under
lexington
bridge
that
sparked
the
conversations
around
stopping
camp
sweeps
all
together
and
despite
public
outcry,
and
so
many
city
council
meetings
and
our
hrc
recommendation
to
stop
encampment
sweeps
during
inclement
weather.
There
were
still
at
least
20
cases
of
camp
sweeps
during
2021
and
I
have
there's
a
list.
I
can
drop
these
links
in
the
chat
actually.
I
Yes
sounds
good,
and
so
these
camp
sweeps
also
continue
for
the
entire
duration
of
covid,
despite
federal
guidelines
to
allow
people
who
are
living
unsheltered
or
encampments
to
remain
where
they
are.
Their
website
still
says
right
now
that
clearing
encampments
can
cause
people
to
disperse
throughout
the
community
and
break
connections
with
service
providers.
This
increases
the
potential
for
infectious
disease
spread.
I
I
have
the
link
for
that
as
well,
but
with
or
without
covid
displacing
folks
is
dangerous,
and
it's
also
inherently
racist,
because
we
understand
that
we
understand
even
better
now
that
black
and
brown
folks
are
disproportionately
falling
through
the
cracks
and
are
left
with
minimal
to
no
support
systems.
I
So
all
that
being
said
in
asheville,
there's
always
somewhere
between
five
and
six
hundred
unhoused
people
on
the
streets
at
any
given
time,
and
this
was
brought
up
at
our
last
recommendation
around
this
issue
as
well,
but
I
really
think
that
there's
signific
there's
less
than
half
that
amount
of
shelter
beds
available
in
town
with
or
without
code
purple.
I
think,
but.
I
To
note
that
none
of
these
shelter
options
are
low
barrier,
high
access,
shelters
and
again
that
that
means
that
people
who
don't
have
id,
who
are
not
sober,
who
have
pets
who
aren't
religious
and
who
are
trans
or
gender
non-conforming,
that
they
don't
that
they
either
can't
enter.
I
Comfortable
in
those
shelters,
but
it's
also
really
important
to
note
that
a
lot
of
our
unhoused
folks
don't
prefer
to
use
shelters
for
various
reasons,
whether
it's
trauma
or
just
preference.
I
But
this
is
a
fundamental
fact
about
our
own
health
community
that
often
gets
overlooked,
and
it's
really
important
to
understand
that
when
it
comes
to
meeting
people's
needs
by
while
also
meeting
them
where
they're
at
and
there's
there
are
concerns
that
come
up
around
sanctioned
camping,
including
public
safety.
The
first
city
council
meeting
this
year
on
january
11th
mike
lamb,
brought
up
that
there
was
maybe
a
correlation
between
camps
and
crime,
but
the
the
report.
I
It
doesn't
prove
that
unsheltered
people
were
the
cause
and
there's
a
lot
of
reasons
that
that
make
it
for
poor
reporting,
literally
any
bar
hotel
downtown,
can
produce
the
same
results
as
encampments
when
it
comes
to
mapping
out
crime,
and
I
can
include
an
analysis
on
that
in
an
email
as
well
to
brenda,
but
on
the
topic
of
safety,
you
know,
campers
feel
safer
with
when
they're
in
a
community
rather
than
being
an
outlier
outlier
camping
alone.
Especially
you
know.
If
it's.
I
If
it's
women
or
femme
people
and
there's
research
and
evidence
to
show
that
camps
that
have
access
to
services
lead
to
less
violence
taking
place
in
or
around
the
camps
as
well,
there's
also
concerns
of
trash
and
sharks.
Removal.
I
I
Things
like
that
instead
is
also
also
show
that
unsheltered
folks,
who
are
cut
off
from
those
like
sanitation
resources
and
community
resources,
end
up
costing
the
community
up
to
like
fifty
thousand
dollars
per
individual
a
year
when
they
inevitably
have
to
use
emergency
services
like
ambulances,
emergency
rooms.
Things
like
that.
So.
I
Stuff
that
goes
into
this
I
feel
like
I
might
be
running
over
time,
but
there's
talks
about.
You
know
what
it
would
look
like
if
there
was
a
volunteer
coordinator
that
could
manage
volunteers
who
have
come
forward
who
say
they
would
love
to
help
with
trash
removal
and
resource
district
distribution.
I
Faith
leaders
in
the
community
are
are
actively
looking
to
other
states
and
cities
for
policy
examples.
For
example,
denver
just
allocated
3.9
million
dollars
of
american
rescue
plan
money
to
fund
what
they
call
safe
outdoor
spaces,
which
they
now
have
three
of,
and
their
mayor
describes
them
as
being
critical
to
the
community
and
through
having
these
they've,
been
able
to
track.
How
many
folks
have
gotten
connected
to
housing
and
there's
no
reason
why
we
can't
do
that
here.
I
We
could
knock
out
other
metrics
of
success
like
who's,
getting
connected
to
housing,
lists
and
primary
care
and
other
services.
But
all
of
this
is
to
say
that
our
working
group
is
going
to
continue
to
work
alongside
other
community
members
who
are
working
on
this
and
hopefully
the
homeless
initiative
advisory
committee
as
well.
I
Who
might
explore
what
sanctuary
camping
could
look
like
and
yeah
so
that
we
can
move
more
towards
improving
public
health
and
safety
for
sheltered
and
unsheltered
residents,
thus
increasing
equity
and
inclusion
for
all
community
members?
A
C
C
Sure,
yeah,
okay,
all
the
third,
whereas
the
city
of
basketball
has
not
abided
by
the
cdc
guidelines
to
shelter
in
place
during
the
painting,
causing
public
health
risks
and
displacements
of
unsheltered
community
members
who
are
disproportionately
black
indigenous
and
people
of
color.
When
it.
When
I
read
that
I
said
you
totally
forgot
about
the
white
people
and
when
you
said
disproportionately
black,
that's
the
black
people
and
then
people
of
color,
that's
what
they
call
it
black
people
of
color.
C
That's
my
understanding,
but
it
just
didn't
read
right
and
there
are
no
white
people
mentioned
in
it
at
all.
I
Yes,
so
that's
that's
speaking
to
the
fact
that
it's
we
can
include
that
in
there
it's
the
the
unfiltered
community
is
predominantly
white,
but
the
amount
of
folks
who
are
bipolar
black,
indigenous
or
people
of
color.
It's
misrepresentative
of
how
many
of
those
members
are
actually
in
our
community.
I
So
there's
a
lot
more
people
who
are
unsheltered,
who
are
black
indigenous
or
people
of
color,
then
what
represents
how
many
of
those
people
are
present
in
the
community?
Like
the
ratios,
you
know
what
I
mean
so
so
disproportionately
bypack
is
like
there's
there's
way
more
bypoc
people
to
white
people
on
the
streets.
Then
there
would
be
in
our
demographic.
If
you
look
at
our
demographics
for
the
city
of
asheville,
does
that
make
more
sense.
C
Because
I'm
still
looking
at
that
same
simpson,
it
didn't
make
any
sense
what
you
said
either.
But
I
guess
that's
what
you're
going
on,
but
you
can
change
the
wording
in
that.
I
wish
you
would
but
that's
up
to
you,
but
I
just
want
to
bring
that
to
your
attention
as
far
as
that,
one
line
right
there.
C
Okay
and
then,
as
we
go
on
down
to
number
four
and
asheville
city
orleans
and
ashfield
city
codes,
that
follows
and
it's
the
second
line,
I
think
the
first
line,
I'm
going
to
tell
the
sanctuary
camping
guidelines,
oops.
F
Chandler,
I
was
trying
to
find
a
way
to
help
commissioner,
harold
kind
of
put
together.
Why
it's?
Why
it's
a
human
relations
issue
and
why
it
is
a
racism
issue
to
address
that?
Yes,
we
far
away
have
a
higher
population
of
white
house.
However,
it's
similar
to
the
prison
population.
There
are
a
lot
more
folks
of
cover,
color
that
make
up
the
prison
population
than
who
make
up
the
free
population
and
in
the
houses.
F
Community
is
a
lot
like
that,
and
I
think
that's
what
commissioner
noyes
espinoza
is
pointing
out
in
order
to
draw
attention
to
the
urgency
and
the
impact
of
the
of
the
camping
ban
and
trying
to
create
these
sanctuary
sets
these
spaces
is
that
racism
finds
a
way
to
get
everywhere,
including
in
the
people
who
end
up
with
no
homes.
I
hope
that
helps.
If
not
I
apologize.
D
A
Add
to
that
there's
different
facets
of
homelessness
as
of
being
unsheltered
as
well.
There's
a
invisible
houseless
where
people
don't
literally
don't
have
a
home
but
they're,
not
camping,
but
they
don't
have
anywhere
to
go
and
so
they're
going
from
place
to
place
to
place
that
that
is
the
disproportionate
people
of
color,
so
black
people,
because
it's
family
taking
care
of
people
and
friends,
and
so
it's
a
different
kind
of
visibility.
A
That's
there
on
the
front
lines
here
in
asheville,
we
often
see
the
majority
of
the
people
that
are
unsheltered
are
white,
yes,
you're,
absolutely
right,
and
also
to
make
sure
that
we
are
including
the
people
that
we
don't
see
right
because
you
know
they're,
the
voiceless
people
they're
the
they're,
the
ones
that
nobody
knows
and
they
go
to
work
and
they
do
their
things
and
they
come
and
they
go
to
somebody's
house
and
sleep
on
their
couch
and
their
housing
is
unstable.
And
so
it's
for
them
too,
and
it's
for
everyone.
A
A
Commissioner,
young
commissioner.
Harold,
would
you
like
to
respond.
C
Yes,
commissioner,
espinosa,
I
want
to
ask
you
as
well
what
is
location
one
and
what
is
location
two.
I
Yes,
so
location,
one
and
location
two
can
be
up
to
the
city
of
asheville
to
choose
where
they
would
prefer
one
of
these
sanctioned
sites
to
be
so
that
it's
either
out
of
view
of
the
tourists
or
or
whatever
makes
them
the
most
comfortable
so
that
they
have
some
direction
and
control
over
over
this.
I
H
So,
yes,
I
got
a
few
questions
to
ask
about
this.
So
are
we
trying
to
push
this
to
help
the
homeless?
And
another
question
is:
is
this
going
to
help
the
people
that's
coming
home
with
felonies
just
being
discriminated
because
they
got
felonies
and
checking
the
box?
H
Are
we
yeah
and
are
we
gonna
address
the
problems?
That's
been
happening
in
these
camps
raping
and
the
old
drugs
over
those
who's
going
to
be
covering
this?
This
is
something
that
we're
going
to
be
taking
care
of
our
pockets.
I
mean
because
this
is
not
free
and
do
you
really
do
we
really
want
these?
I
mean
the
homeless
people
next
to
our
kids
and
they're,
raping
people
and
killing
them
doing
whatever
I
mean
we
got
to
look
at
the
the
safety
of
our
kids
in
our
community.
H
I
mean,
if
we're
going
to
we're,
going
to
look
at
both
sides.
We
got
to
look
at
both
sides
of
this.
How
effective
it's
going
to
be
for
our
community
and
what's
going
to
be
the
outcome
and
the
bad
parts
about
this,
but
they
because
we
do
know,
there's
drugs
going
on
there.
The
police
gonna
be
able
to
watch
that.
Keep
that
on
the
raffle.
Are
they
gonna?
Take
the
winners?
H
That's
been
raped
them
I
mean
you
know
I
mean
about
the
felonies
we
putting
all
the
energy
in
this,
but
we're
not
putting
the
energy
when
the
brothers
and
sisters
that
was
in
an
apartment,
housing
that
was
getting
kicked
out
for
the
band.
That's
because
they
had
drill
records
and
we're
gonna
put
the
same.
I
I
To
public
housing,
because
that's
that's
not
what
my
focus
group
is
on
right
now.
So
if
you
wanted
to
talk
about
that
in
like
a
different
working
group,
I
would
be
more
than
happy
to,
but
for
the
houseless
and
can't
mix
encampments,
specifically
yeah.
I
Those
things
definitely
do
happen
and
yeah
there's
definitely
assault
that
happens
in
these
camps,
but
part
of
why
sanction
camping
would
be
good
is
so
that
these
people
don't
get
pushed
to
the
outskirts
of
town
where
we
can't
see
and
help
those
crimes
from
happening
right
now
with
the
encampment
sweeps,
it
pushes
people
out
of
sight
and
people
who
are
providing
services,
whether
it's
volunteers
or
people
who
work
for
non-profits,
we
can't
find
them,
and
so
it's
really
hard
to
help
so
with
sanctioned
camping
as
well.
I
When
I
was
talking
about
a
volunteer
coordinator
and
other
volunteers
who
would
come
by
and
do
trash
pickup,
there
is
more
of
a
presence
there.
People
are
stopping
by
more
often
people,
the
community
forms
and
and
there's
like
face-to-face
face-to-face
relations.
It
helps
people
feel
safer
and
there
are
studies
that
show
that
the
crime
does
go
down
when
there
is
kind
of
like
a
coordinated
site
like
this,
so
the
way
that
the
campsites
are
right
now
they're,
they
they
pop
up,
nobody's
really
watching.
I
There
is
no
presence
there.
People
who
are
providing
services,
don't
know
where
to
look
most
of
the
time.
So
it's
really
kind
of
it's
difficult
right
now,
but
if
we
had
sanctioned
sites,
it
would
be
a
lot
easier
to
continuously
provide
the
support.
That's
needed
to
kind
of
meet
people's
basic
needs,
which
brings
the
crime
down
and
the
safety
up.
If
that
makes
sense,.
H
I
So
those
folks
can
certainly
get
connected
to
services,
and
I
would
love
to
help
figure
out
how
to
do
that.
But
I
it's
hard
to
draw
the
bridge
between
people
who
are
camping
and
that
in
one
policy
proposal
so
like
I've
just
been
trying
to
focus,
and
our
working
group
has
been
trying
to
focus
on
one
thing
at
a
time,
but
that
certainly
does
raise
an
issue
that
I
would
be
more
than
happy
to
explore.
Next.
H
I
think
before
we
move
forward,
I
think
we
need
to
find
a
way
to
combine
everybody
in
this
thing,
because
I
mean
on
one
side
of
this.
This
is
like
we
just
looking
at
one
suit,
certain
group
and
forgetting
the
other.
Certainly
I
mean
it's
like
it's
kind
of
buyers.
Now
you
got
people
that
actually
have
been
being
homeless
way
before
clothing
for
a
long
time
now
I
can't
get
in
because
they
got
records
and
they
didn't
done
any
time
or
whatever
it
is,
and
they're
still
homeless.
H
So
we're
going
to
address
something
we
got
to
address
the
whole
full
spectrum
of
everything,
not
just
half
of
this
I'm
with
the
homies,
but
I'm
also
with
my
people
as
well,
and
we
got
homeless
people
in
our
community
black
white
mexican
everything.
So
we
gotta
address
it
so
it'll
be
beneficial
for
everybody,
not
just
for
the
homeless
over
here
in
worcester,
but
the
homeless
everywhere.
A
Commissioner
yeah,
I
knew
what
you're
saying-
and
I
I
agree
with
with
with
a
lot
of
it,
and
one
of
the
things
that
that
I
wanted
to
share
is
that
it
doesn't
have
to
be
an
all
or
nothing.
This
can
be
a
yes
and
we
can
start
from
the
people
that
need
and
are
in
the
most
need
and
triage
and
get
the
people
that
are
in
the
most
need
the
services
that
they're
in
need
of,
and
we
can
move
into
the
next
phase
and
the
next
phase
and
the
next
phase.
A
If
we
go
and
we
do
it
all
together
and
don't
necessarily
triage,
you
know,
there's
a
triage
in
hospitals
for
a
reason
you
deal
with
the
people
that
are
the
most
affected
and
right
now
it's
the
people
that
are
sleeping
out
in
the
streets
and
do
not
have
a
secure
space
to
sleep
at
all.
They
are
literally
unsheltered,
whether
it's
cold
hot
raining,
windy,
freezing
snowing.
A
You
know
to
kind
of
open
up
the
the
opportunity
to
look
at
how
this
recommendation
can
affect
our
community
for
the
good
and
elevate
and
evolve
our
humanity
for
the
better.
A
A
Thank
you
very
much,
commissioner.
We
look
forward
to
the
updates
that
you
bring
next
meeting
moving
on
to
our
next
committee.
Examining
systems
commissioner
herald
commissioner
solaris.
C
Yeah,
I
don't
like
to
speak
on
that.
I
don't
believe
anyone's
here
except
me
on
examining
systems
I'm
still
working
on
that
by
myself,
but
I
talked
to
dolores
last
week
and
we're
gonna
move
forward
with
that.
The
next
thing
I
want
to
know
is
daniel.
Yes,
what's
daniel's
name.
H
A
Commissioner,
commissioner,
harold
remember
this
is
a
public.
This
is
a
public
meeting
and
it
will
be
on
youtube
and
perpetuity.
C
A
H
H
The
kids
are
planning
to
do
whether
there's
a
protest
tomorrow
morning,
if
anybody's
able
to
be
there
to
support
our
kids,
who
need
our
help
at
eight
o'clock
tomorrow
at
ashford
we
got
kids
that
are
doing
what
they're
supposed
to
be
doing
and
the
system
is
trying
to
take
stuff
away,
that's
beneficial
for
them,
and
they
want
to
figure
out.
Why
and
if
we
are,
we
are
the
commission
board
that
we
are.
We
need
to
be
there
supporting
our
kids
tomorrow
morning
at
8
00
a.m.
Asheville
high
school.
B
I
apologize,
but
I
do
have
just
a
couple
of
questions
now
that
the
comments
have
made
about
the
committees,
and
these
are
the
key
actions-
are
listed
on
the
paperwork
that
was
sent
out
on
the
link.
So
I'm
just
basing
this
off
of
such.
I
have
not
had
enough
time
to.
G
Interact
with
any
of
these
groups
specifically,
however,
I
do
entertain
this
on
a
daily
basis.
The
human
relations.
B
Portion,
of
course,
I
did
in
fact
want
to
be
more
involved
with
addressing
the
housing
issues.
There
will
be
some
suggestions
that
I
would
like
to
make
if
I
would
be
allowed
to,
that
does
not
have
to
take
place
now,
of
course,
and
also
improving
the
hrca.
B
G
Under
their
belt,
if
that's
a
good
way
to
understand
that,
so
I
would
like.
G
Of
these
human
relations,
key
actions
are
very,
very
important.
We
are
all
equally
sitting
here
for
a
reason.
The
interaction
here
today
is
wonderful,
so
I
do
appreciate
that
I
guess
that's
all.
I'm
gonna
leave
on
the
table
right
now.
If
I
can
get
a
gay
or
name
if
I
can
be
involved
with
that,
my
name
is
not
on
any
one
of
these,
because
I
was
not
present
for
that
very
first
meeting,
and
that
is
my
fault.
A
Absolutely,
commissioner,
I'm
pretty
sure
brenda
is
already
writing
your
name
and-
and
I
would
actually
like
to
invite
this
moment
since
we
are
in
committee-
updates
the
possibility
for
introducing
a
housing
committee.
A
It
sounds
like
you've
got
a
lot
of
passion
in
here
for
housing
and
I
believe
that
you're,
really
you
like
you're
a
brilliant
voice
regards
to
public
housing
here
in
asheville,
commissioner
reed
so
become
highly
recommended
by
some
pretty
influential
people.
So
I
trust
that
whatever
you'll
bring
to
a
potential
housing
committee
might
be
something
that
you
and
commissioner
young
might
be
able
to
work
out.
So
I
don't
know
something
that
brenda
we
might
be
able
to
introduce,
as
a
new
committee
to
establish
for
to
specifically
housing.
I
I'm
interested
in
exploring
housing
in
asheville
and
the
affordable
housing
crisis
and
how
that's
affecting
people
and
yeah.
All
of
that
for
sure.
F
Here,
I'm
thinking
it
might
be
beneficial
to
change
our
house
list
committee
to
a
housing,
just
change
the
whole
thing
to
housing
and,
let's
all
address
the
same
things
together.
Oh
thanks
crystal
I
mean.
H
I
think
about
the
the
housing
situation.
I
do
know
public
housing
already
has
the
committee
we
just
need.
They
just
need
our
support
and
if
we
can
give
them
the
backing
and
the
strength
that
they
need
be
the
voice
for
them,
then
we
can
get
the
stuff
done.
That
need
to
be
done.
A
A
Maybe
we
can
have
them,
come
to
human
relations
commission
meeting
and
do
presentation
for
us
so
that
we
can
see
how
best
to
support
them.
Let's.
A
C
Okay,
at
our
last
meeting
I
was
asked
to
get
in
touch
with
the
lord,
improving
the
hrca
to
be
the
the
head
of
that
group,
and
I
did
and
she
said
she
would
be
hitting
that
group
and
y'all
asked
me
to
do
that
at
our
last
meeting.
A
If
there
are
no
further
comments
or
questions
regarding
committee
updates,
we'll
be
moving
on
to
our
next
item
up
for
business,
community
announcements.
C
Okay,
as
far
as
the
community
announcements
that
I
have
it's
supposed
to
be
stuff,
that's
gonna
necessarily
help
us
the
abccm.
This
is
happening
in
may.
It's
gonna
start
in
may
and
may
they're
having
meetings
in
may
just
to
help
with
the
homeless
I'll
go
through
it,
real,
quick,
it's
abccm
volunteers,
the
general
assembly,
that's
going
to
be
on
riceville
road,
499
right
through
your
road,
it's
going
to
be
on
zoom
at
6,
30
and
may
24th
september.
C
27Th
and
november
29th
and
they're
gonna
be
discussing
a
lot
of
things
as
far
as
homelessness,
feeding
the
hungry
killing.
C
And
it's
that
grassy
branch
baptist,
so
that
would
be
a
lot
of
information
that
you
know
being
given
out
that
those
those
meetings,
because
it's
gonna
be
several
of
them,
but
that,
like
I
said
you
know,
abccm.
E
A
Does
abccm
pardon
me
stand
for
ashville.
L
A
About
the
commissioner
was
talking
about
the
wyoming
climate
justice
project,
the
climate
justice
project,
the
ymi
on
saturday,
and
also
commissioner,
oliver
was
talking
about
juneteenth
coming
up.
Are
there
any
further
community
announcements
that
we
would
like
for
the
community
of
asheville
to
know
about
and
attend.
C
Okay,
commissioner,
did
tiffany
say
that
was
from
five
to
seven
on
saturday
at
the
ymca
five
to
seven.
I
One
more
thing:
for
the
month
of
march
at
revolve
studios
in
the
river
arts
district,
there
will
be
a
gallery
with
art
from
black
and
brown
youth
from
word
on
the
street
or
mostly
versus,
and
the
art
is
so
good.
These
kids
are
so
talented.
I
highly
recommend
it
so.
E
Saturday,
hood
huggers
international
is
having
their
annual
plans
and
it
kicks
off
tomorrow,
saturday
from
11
until
two,
so
there's
gonna
be
some
warm
things
to
eat
and
coffee
and
you
can
purchase
plants
if
anyone
is
interested.
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
all
of
the
community
announcements.
Next
item
up
for
business
is
public
comment.
Did
we
have
the
community
member
coming
up
for
public
comment?
You
do.
B
L
Excited
to
hear
that
y'all
were
talking
about
the
sanctuary
camping,
especially
because
there's
about
to
be
130,
less
shelter
beds
on
may
31st,
with
the
code,
purple,
shelters
and
the
remodel
closing
when
city
council
has
been
talking
about
when,
when
sanctuary
campaign
has
been
brought
up,
it's
been
shut
down,
pretty
quickly
as
being
like
a
radical
or
useless
project,
but
there's
a
lot
of
cities
that
are
doing
it
really
well
right
now,
and
so
I
think,
there's
just
a
lot
of
good
examples
to
show
them
that
it's
super
cheap
way
cheaper
than
cleaning
up
camps
over
and
over,
but
also
it
is
super
effective
and
in
talking
to
folks
that
do
live
on
the
street,
because
the
biggest
concern
that
folks
have
been
bringing
up
is
safety
and
encampments.
L
When
talking
to
folks
that
live
on
the
streets,
they
almost
always
say
that
they
feel
a
lot
safer,
camping
with
other
people.
So
then
they
can
holler
for
help
if
they
do
need
it
so
yeah,
that's
for
safety.
Definitely.
D
L
A
safety
issue
to
sleep
on
your
own
for
sure
as
well,
but
yeah,
so
I
don't
know
in
doing
some
math
and
how
much
money
that
would
cost
to
do.
Something
like
that.
It
just
would
just
be
a
dumpster
and
toilets
each
month,
which
is
really
not
bad,
and
I
know
that
there's
a
ton,
a
ton
of
energy
behind,
like
from
a
lot
of
the
churches
right
now
to
want
to
help
with
the
sanctuary,
camping
and
so
what
folks
have
talked
about
wanting
to
help
with.
L
J
I'm
calling
in
from
south
asheville
today
first,
I
would
just
like
to
say
a
thank
you
to
commissioners,
melanie
tanya
and
susie,
for
bringing
this
to
this
commission's
attention.
I'm
sure
that
this
has
been
enabled
attention
anyways,
because
it's
been
a
big
issue
here
in
nashville.
First,
let's
start
with
some,
you
know
basic
facts.
I
I've
heard
a
lot
of
concern
about
the
cost
for
having
sanctions
enhancing
areas
and
who
that
would
fall
upon.
Let's
be
honest,
there's
going
to
be
a
cost
either
way.
J
It
costs
us
money
when
we
police
the
camps,
it
costs
us
money
when
cops
have
to
respond
to
calls
from
businesses
and
neighborhoods,
and
it
costs
us
money
when
these
folks
are
not
safe
and
they
can't
stay
in
camps
and
then
they
end
up
in
the
hospital
and
we
have
to
pay
for
them
because
they
obviously
you
know
they
don't
have
money,
and
the
other
fact
is
that
there
are
going
to
be
hospice
folks,
no
matter
what
it
would
be
ideal
if
we
could
get
all
these
folks
housing
and
we
all.
J
I
think
we
can
agree
on
that.
But
that
is
a
lot
of
barriers
and
a
lot
of
challenges,
as
I'm
sure
you
all
know.
So
we
have
to
do
something
and
I
believe
the
last
caller
mentioned
it.
I
think
it
would
be
in
our
best
interest
to
go
ahead
and
get
a
jump
start,
and
you
know
nip
this
in
the
bud
and
go
ahead
and
give
these
folks
places
to
camp
because
they're
they're
living
here
anyways
and
this
would
this-
would
drastically
reduce
the
cost
of
cleanups.
J
J
Well,
if
we
gave
them
dumpsters
and
sharp
containers
and
a
safe
place
to
camp
and
some
bathroom
facilities,
it
would
drastically
cost
us
less
money
in
the
long
run,
and
I
think
it's
really
important
that
we
go
ahead
and
make
that
progress,
because
this
issue
isn't
going
away
and
you
can
police
them
and
sweep
their
camps.
But
as
we've
seen
statistically,
there
was
26
suites
last
year
in
asheville
alone,
and
it's
just
not
going
to
go
away.
J
So
I
really
really
think
that
it
is
in
our
best
interest
to
go
ahead
and
start
doing
research
and
start
thinking
about
these
things,
and
there
are
plenty
of
cities
throughout
the
us
that
have
done
these,
that
they
have
sanctuary
camping
spots.
That
way,
like
other
folks,
have
said,
they
have
community,
they
feel
a
lot
safer
about
their
people
and
they
don't
have
to
constantly
worry
about
having
their
stuff
destroyed
and
being
displaced
and
along
with
that
cost.
There
are
a
lot
of
people
that
are
doing
mutual
aid
in
this
city.
J
There
are
a
lot
of
people
who
are
invested
in
this
issue
and
as
somebody
that
has
done
a
lot
of
mutual
aid,
this
would
mean
a
lot
to
the
folks
on
the
street,
and
I
guarantee
that,
with
some
support
from
the
city,
you
would
have
a
ton
of
people
that
are
willing
to
do
this
work
and
it
would
feel
safe
and
respected
in
doing
this
work.
If
the
city
just
had
our
backs,
I
I
believe
that's
all.
J
I
have
to
say
thank
you
for
your
time
and
I
really
hope
that
you
take
this
into
consideration,
because
this
is
very
important
for
our
community
members.
Have
a
nice
night.
D
My
name
is
max.
I
live
in
this
area
I
have
for
over
seven
years,
and
I
wanted
to
do
it-
give
a
huge
shout
out
to
melanie
and
tanya
for
their
work
on
the
sanctuary,
camping
document
and
just
wanted
to
urge
this
commission
to
wholeheartedly
support
and
recommend
everything
that
is
outlined
in
the
sanctuary
campaign
proposal.
D
As
many
people
have
already
said
on
this
meeting,
this
is
the
cheap
option.
This
is
the
humanitarian
option.
It's
it's
a
no-brainer,
so
go
ahead
and
accept
it
and
keep
this
ball
rolling.
I
was
at.
I
was
at
a
meeting
this
morning.
The
city
council,
budget
retreat
and
sandra
kilgore
was
talking
about
how
she
didn't
know
a
lot
about
sanctuary,
camping,
and
maybe
that
was
something
that
funds
should
be
placed
into
looking
into.
So
so
that's
the
the
most
conservative
member
of
the
city
council
right
acknowledges
that
this
is
a
huge
problem.
D
It
and
something
needs
to
happen
about
it.
And,
of
course,
what
is
the
city
council
going
to
want
to
do
they're
going
to
want
to
pay
on
the
outside
company
to
come
and
and
do
some?
You
know
dubious
statistics
or
put
out
a
questionnaire
or
something
and
ultimately
create
a
recommendation.
Well,
that's
going
to
cost
a
lot
of
money
and
lucky
for
us.
D
We
have
folks
who
actually
do
this
work
day
in
and
day
out
and
help
those
who
are
unhoused
survive
with
the
limited,
extremely
limited
resources
that
are
available
and
they
have
written
this
amazing
proposal
already.
There's
no
reason
to
spend
money
more
money
on
getting
a
company
to
create
this
kind
of
thing
here.
It's
actually
from
the
people
who
do
this
work.
D
So
please,
please,
adopt
the
sanctuary,
camping
proposal
and
and
recommend
that
the
city
council
implemented
thanks.
A
Thank
you
to
all
the
live
callers
who
showed
up.
It
takes
a
lot
of
courage
to
call
in
to
a
public
meeting,
and
we
appreciate
your
courage
and
your
passion,
councilwoman
rooney.
Would
you
like
to
speak
to
this
and
just
to
include
you
invite
you
into
this.
M
I
know
that
I
would
be
taking
up
more
of
your
time
after
your
meeting
is
already
after
schedule,
but
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
and
also
daniel.
Can
you
remind
us
why
the
students
are
walking
out
tomorrow
morning
and
restate
what
time
the
walkout
is
happening
at
the
school
tomorrow?
Well,.
H
They're
walking
out
because
the
school
budget
is
using
a
remove
from
home
room
and
all
the
events
that
they
have
in
the
morning,
which
is
clubs
that
help
them
with
the
homework
of
any
kind
of
club.
That's
beneficial
for
these
kids
are
being
removed,
doing
the
removal
of
the
home
room
and
I
think
the
school
buddies
use
it
for
equity.
That's
the
reason
they
were
moving
it
and
they
did
they.
The
kids
felt
like
they
were
left
out
because
they
were
any
decision
that
has
an
effect
on
them.
H
They
should
have
been
a
part
of
the
meets
some
of
the
school
teachers
are
are
against
this
move
as
well,
and
a
lot
of
the
students
are.
The
walkout
is
gonna,
be
at
8
00
a.m.
Tomorrow,
morning
and
they're
asking
us
to,
I
mean
I'm
asking
y'all
to
just
come
and
support
our
kids,
heal
their
voices
and
listen
man,
let's
back
them,
because
they
can't
be
out
here
doing
what
they
should
be
doing,
but
they're
doing
what
they
trying
to
do,
and
that's
the
graduate
to
succeed.
H
M
Say
that
we're
talking
about
asheville,
high
and
silsa,
and
also
my
understanding
from
students
that
I
spoke
with
this
week,
is
that
homeroom
is
the
only
time
that
you
can
be
in
the
school
like
early
to
do
the
club
work.
So
that's
where
a
lot
of
folks
who
wouldn't
otherwise
have
transportation
can
be
on
campus
to
do
that.
M
Club
work
like
black
student
union,
for
example,
and
it
keeps
them
from
having
to
stay
afterwards
and
address
other
transportation
issues
later
in
the
day,
but
that
prevents
them
from
being
able
to
organize
and
get
extra
resources
around
study
time,
access
to
teachers
and
staff.
Yes,.
A
Moving
on
to
our
next
item.
Up
for
business,
future
agenda
items,
training
in
city
mandated
equity
and
inclusion
processes
is
coming
up,
working
on
the
accountability
pipeline
for
complaints,
process
for
city
of
asheville
for
city
employees
and
resident
complaints.
A
That's
you
brenda
lgbtqia,
plus
discrimination,
protections
and
complaints
process
to
make
sure
that
doesn't
fall
through
the
cracks,
ada
compliance
and
complaints
process.
That's
on
the
list,
working
in
on
that
creation
of
volunteer
membership
mentorship
program
to
support
returning
citizens.
That's
you,
commissioner,
young
public
safety,
education,
fair
and
equitable
housing
and
environmental
and
climate
concerns.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
All
of
you,
commissioners,
for
your
passion,
your
drive
and
your
presence.
It
is
always
an
honor
to
be
of
service
in
this
commission
next
item
up
for
business
is
adjournment
if
there
is
no
other
business
to
be
presented.