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From YouTube: Noise Advisory Board – April 10, 2023
Description
Regular meeting of the City of Asheville Noise Advisory Board.
Access the agenda and other meeting materials at the City of Asheville website: https://www.ashevillenc.gov/department/city-clerk/boards-and-commissions/noise-advisory-board/
Participate before and during the meeting on our public engagement hub: https://publicinput.com/Q6878
A
B
Okay,
thank
you,
Haley.
The
meeting
will
now
come
to
order.
Welcome
to
the
April
10th
2023
meeting
of
the
city
of
Asheville
noise,
Advisory
Board
I
am
Jessica
Thomason,
the
chair
of
the
noise
Advisory
Board
I
will
introduce
each
agenda
item
and
facilitate
the
meeting
to
help
our
audience
follow
along
all
committee
members
and
staff
are
participating
virtually
today.
B
We
are
streaming
through
our
virtual
engagement
Hub,
which
is
accessible
through
the
virtual
engagement
Hub
Link
in
the
front
page
of
the
city
website,
and
also
linked
on
the
Noid
Advisory
Board
page
for
those
of
you
are
that
are
out
there
with
us
today.
Welcome
I'll
go
through
and
introduce
all
of
the
board
members
that
are
participating
virtually
please
make
sure
to
meet
your
microphone
when
you
are
not
speaking
when
you
have
a
question
or
would
like
to
speak,
please
unmute
your
microphone
board
members
as
I
call
your
name.
Please
acknowledge
your
presence.
B
B
Sorry
I
didn't
hear
you
Jeff
Santiago
present
David
Ledger.
D
A
I
do
not
believe
she's
joined
us,
yet
if
she
does
come,
I
guess
it'll
be
late.
Okay,.
B
B
D
D
B
Yeah
I
heard
a
very
quiet,
yay
and
David
Ledger.
B
Okay,
great
thank
you
so
minutes
to
minutes
are
approved
for
our
February
2023
meeting
of
the
noise
Advisory
board.
Thank
you,
everyone
all
right.
So
moving
on
to
our
second
agenda
item,
we
have
the
noise
administrator
check-in
in
the
in
your
agenda.
You
have
the
links
to
the
2023
and
the
2024,
or
the
2023
March
and
2023
April
report.
Does
anybody
have
any
questions
on
anything
from
those
two
reports?
B
Thank
you
no
Okay!
So
Todd
do
you
have
anything
that
you
want
to
add
from
the
20,
the
March
or
April
reports.
E
No
just
kind
of
as
expected,
fairly
quiet
months,
expect
things
to
pick
up
here
in
the
next
few
weeks
and
then
we'll
see
how
we
go
from
Ridge
way.
B
Yeah
the
Calm
before
the
storm
right
as
we
get
into
full
full
swing
full
season,
okay,
so
moving
on
to
Old
business.
My
our
first
agenda
item
is
the
annual
report
and
follow-up
I
was
hoping
that
councilwoman
Mosley
would
be
here
today
to
provide
an
update
for
us
in
terms
of
where
our
requests
with
city
council
have
fallen
in
our
annual
report.
B
Each
one
of
our
request
did
have
some
requests
for
for
for
budgeting
reasons
for
things
that
we
were
hoping
the
city
would
cover,
but
I
guess
what
we're
going
to
have
to
do
is.
Hopefully
we
can
Circle
back
to
that.
If
Antoinette
ends
up
joining
us
on
this
call
or
I
can
reach
out
after
the
fact
Haley.
A
And
that's
just
exactly
what
it's
going
to
recommend
if
she's
unable
to
make
it
today,
you
and
Rick
could
always
send
her
an
email
outside
of
the
meeting
and
hopefully
get
some
answers
that
way
or
at
least
confirm
her
Presence
at
the
next
meeting.
F
Haley,
if
I
remember
correctly,
you
were
also
a
part
of
the
urban
forestry
Ford.
F
Can
you
share
with
us
any
actions
they
took
to
move
their
agenda
forward
because
ultimately
they
did
succeed
in
getting
Urban,
Forester
and
I.
Just
since
it's
new
for
us
I,
just
wonder
if
they
are
some
best
practices
there
or.
A
It
wasn't
multi-year
effort,
it
wasn't
something
that
they
pushed
through
very
quickly
and
from
my
recollection
on
it,
it
was
working
pretty
closely
with
their
Council
liaison
to
make
sure
that
they
were
getting
the
recommendations
pushed
through
fairly
regularly.
A
Some
other
things
that
they
did
was
I
think
they
had
a
little
bit
of
support
from
some
other
boards
and
commissions
for
one
I.
Think,
like
Stacy,
tried
to
put
some
support
letter
of
support
for
them
through
as
well,
not
sure
if
it
was
an
official
letter,
but
I
do
know
that
they
supported
the
efforts
of
the
urban
Forester
and
urban
Forester
master
plan,
and
there
might
have
been
some
more
specific
things
that
they
did.
A
What
I
would
like
to
do
is
if
you
and
Jessica
wouldn't
mind,
shooting
me
an
email
after
the
meeting,
I
can
get
with
Nancy,
Watford
and
kind
of
retrace
some
of
our
steps
with
that
and
see.
If
I
can
get
you
some
more
specifics
and
then,
if
you
wanted
to
take
it
back
to
the
board,
to
share
with
everybody
after
the
words
or
if
we
wanted
to
forward
that
email
along,
we
could
okay.
B
A
B
Thank
you
all
right.
Moving
on
so
working
group
updates
Reb
do
you
have
any
updates
for
us
on
the
vehicular
noise
you're.
D
Muted
yeah
I
think
we're
in
a
holding
pattern
until
we
get
some
indication
from
Council
on
our
request
that
was
sent
in
with
the
annual
report,
and
we
had
asked
the
council
to
ask
the
manager
to
ask
us
to
look
at
changes
in
the
ordinance
that
could
bring
about
some
change
in
vehicular
noise.
So
nothing
really
to
report
other
than
anxiously
awaiting.
B
Okay,
gotcha
in
in
what
I
I
wanted
to
add
to
that
is
that
I
have
there's
been
some
some
grumblings
in
the
I'm
in
I'm
in
a
group
online
of
Mo,
it's
Moda,
the
merchants
of
downtown
Asheville,
and
so
there's
definitely
Ben.
B
Some
mentionings
in
this
online
group
about
the
vehicle
noise
downtown,
so
I
think
maybe
just
putting
that
out.
I
I
had
I've
been
I've,
been
telling
them
that
this
is
something
that
was
going
to
be
a
focus
for
us
for
2023,
and
so,
if
it's
something
that
helps
to
apply
some
pressure,
for
instance,
getting
some
of
the
business
owners
to
to
write
letters
about
what
they're
experiencing
downtown
and
just
the
just
sort
of
putting
a
little
pressure
on
getting
this
to
move
forward
and
getting
more
support.
We
can
definitely
make
that
happen.
B
Yeah
I
think
so
I'm
just
saying
that
in
the
future
that
this
may
be
something
that
we
don't
see
any
movement
on
it
that
we
can.
We
can
you
know
it's
it's
already
something
that
I'm
seeing
in
February
that
people
are
complaining
about
and
again
like
we
were
just
talking
about
like
as
The
Season's
about
to
start
getting.
You
know
it's
warmer
we're
going
to
have
more
tourists,
there's
going
to
be
more
people
out.
It's
definitely
going
to
be
something
that
I
think
is
going
to
continue.
Motorcycle.
B
It
if
we
needed
a
little
little
help
there,
we
can
definitely
reach
out
to
the
business
community.
B
Any
questions
on
that
any
questions
on
the
the
vehicular
noise
report.
G
I
had
to
switch
everything
up,
I
don't
have
any
questions
now,
but
I
I
will,
as
it
progresses,
because
I
I
think
I
I'm,
noticing
it
a
lot
more
to
where
I
live.
There's
lots
of
groups
of
young
people
on
motorcycles
and
honestly,
it
doesn't
bother
me
personally,
like
they're
having
fun
they're,
not
hurting
anyone
and
where
I
live
houses
are
further
away
from
the
street
and
they're
more
few
and
far
between
so
I'd,
rather
see
them
closer
to
me
than
in
other
places.
G
B
Yeah
I'm
I,
live
on
the
west
side
and
I've
been
hearing
the
same
thing
so,
especially
especially
later
like
later
in
the
evening,
it
sounds
like
people
are
like
drag
racing
down
the
street,
so
okay
working
group
update
decibel
levels,
Jeff
Santiago
any.
C
Updates,
there's
really
not
any
updates.
I
know
the
last
time
we
spoke
just
to
kind
of
catch
everybody
up.
We
were
trying
to
figure
out
with
City
staff
if
there's
a
way
to
get
certain
readings
for
certain
people
when
they
have
certain
complaints
that
are
kind
of
outside
normal
hours.
C
The
working
group
had
a
discussion,
which
is
you
know,
mainly
Rick
and
myself
about
hey.
Maybe
we
could
go
out
there
and
do
that,
but
I
know
there
were
limitations
on
what
we
were
allowed
to
do
and
there
were
safety
concerns
and
concerns
where
it
had
to
be
done
by
City
staff.
So
I'm
not
sure.
C
If
that's
something
that
needs
to
be
also
put
into
that
budget
question,
you
know
having
the
budget
to
get
people
out
at
certain
hours
or
expanding
I
have
no
idea,
but
that's
kind
of
where
we're
at
right
now
that,
along
with
the
fact
that
it's
been
sort
of
quiet,
if
you
will
but
I'm
sure
we're
going
to
start
see
things
pick
up
now,
that's
getting
warmer
so.
B
F
I'm
trying
to
recall
conversations
from
months
ago,
but
I
think
Todd
and
I
talked
about
these
measurements,
especially
the
ambient
ones.
You
know,
because
we
kind
of
need
ambience,
non-noisy
measures
to
make
sure
that
the
problems
aren't
always
there.
You
know,
because
of
like
the
problems
we
had
with
mission,
where
the
traffic
noise
was
so
loud
that
you
couldn't
separate
it
from
the
industrial
noise.
My
recollection
at
Todd
was
that,
if
we're
not
trying
to
go
massive
overtime,
this
would
be
within
the
scope
of
what
the
compliance
team
can
do.
E
E
What
sort
of
measurements
are
you
wanting
to
take,
so
we
can
verify
that
we
can
actually
do
those
before
we
get
into
someone's
house
or
private
property
and
realize
it's
without
our
are
means,
and
then
we
would
probably
want
some
sort
of
signed
consent
from
the
property
owner,
giving
us
permission
to
be
on
the
property
just
in
case
there's
any
sort
of
you
know,
incident
or
issue
or
whatever
later,
and
so
beyond
that
yeah
I
mean
I.
I
can
easily
have
one
of
my
guys
or
I
can
go
out
there.
F
Do
you
have
some
kind
of
a
consent
form
that
we
can
start
with
and
modify
it
for
this?
Could
you
send
it
to
us
and
we'll
fix
it
up?
Yeah,
perfect.
E
E
You
know
my
employees
and
the
city
itself
if
we
were
to
just
go
on
someone's
property
on
a
voice
permission,
it's
very
easy
for
them
to
later
deny
that
they
did
that
I'm,
not
saying
anybody's
going
to
do
that.
But
these
are
just
the
things
that
experience
has
taught
us
that
we
need
to.
E
You
know:
maybe
somebody's
not
satisfied
with
what
we're
doing
or
or
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
in
on
their
regard,
and
so
they
want
to
make
a
an
issue
out
of
it
later
and
change
their
story
or
whatever
and
it
a
consent
form
just
clarifies.
Yes,
we
were
there
upon
their
permission
and
their
requests,
and
so.
F
But
I
got
I
had
no
problem,
we'll
we'll
facilitate
this
to
happen,
but
it
it
causes
a
question:
In
My,
Head,
Todd,
the
ordinance
says
and
I'm
not
going
to
quote
the
exact
words
that
measurements
should
be
made
by
the
compliance
team
at
the
approximate
location
that
the
complainant
has
has
stated.
Yes,
is
it
that
when
they
make
a
complaint,
there
is
great
sorry
that
that
basically
is
consent,
but
since
these
wouldn't
be
complaint
based,
then
consent
is
more
important.
So.
E
Let's
be
very
clear
from
the
very
beginning,
these
measurements
that
we're
going
to
be
taking
have
nothing
to
do
with
the
ordinance
have
nothing
to
do
with
enforcement,
have
nothing
to
do
with
compliance
from
an
official
standpoint.
We
are
providing
you
with
measurements,
for
you
to
do
your
study
on.
You
know
the
data
that
you're
wanting
to
collect
here,
and
so
we're
not
going
out
there
to
enforce
anything.
We're
not
going
out
there
to
collect
evidence
to
enforce
anything.
B
G
Yeah
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
if
and
when
you
guys
do
go
out
in
the
field
to
collect
some
of
the
decibel
recordings,
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to
join
you.
Unless
that
means
that
too
many
of
us
are
gathering
in
one
place
or
it's
too
many
cooks
in
the
kitchen
type
of
thing,
but
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to
join.
E
F
B
Yeah
there
we
go,
let's
just
make
sure
we're
not
violating
any
any
rules
or
regulations
for
that,
but
yeah
any
other
questions
or
comments
about
decibel
levels.
B
No,
okay,
so
moving
on.
So
we
we
had
brought
up
the
noise
Trends
by
year
last
time
as
something
to
take
a
look
at.
So
we
have
now
data
that's
from
started
in
September
of
2021,
so
we
actually
have.
You
know
some
some
overlapping
months,
that
we
can
take
a
look
at
between
September
and
March
and
so
and
and
I
really
appreciate
the
new
forms,
the
new,
the
it's.
B
B
That
I
wanted
to
ask
some
questions
about.
If
that's,
okay
and
then
and
board
members
please
feel
free
to
chime
in.
But
one
of
the
things
that
I've
noticed
is
that
there
was
a
big
increase
for
2023,
with
contact
made
with
alleged
noise
makers.
B
Is
there?
Can
you
explain
what
that
is?
Was
that
a
reclassification
of
something
or
was
that
just
yeah
I'm
just
wondering
what
what
why
that
was
such
a
big
increase
from
2022
to
2023.
E
And
Haley's
got
more
history
on
us
than
I
do
but
I.
So
she
can
correct
me
if
I'm,
wrong
or
I
add,
but
my
I
believe
that
that's
probably
just
showing
where
we
added
another
category
where
we
started
tracking
data.
Okay,.
B
E
Hadn't
been
tracking
before
and
so
that's
that's
the
reason
for
the
biggest
reason
for
the
increase
there.
B
Sorry
I
didn't
answer
the
question.
No,
it's
all
good.
It's
contact
there
so
in
in
2022.
Contact
made
with
alleged
noise
maker
is
pretty
low.
There's
like
one
in
February
of
last
year
and
one
in
November
and
December,
and
then
this
year
so
far.
You
know
it
was
two
in
January
9
and
February
Seven
in
March.
So
is
that
just
like
a
reclassification
of
or
is
it
I
didn't
know
if
it
was
that
or
that
had
something
to
do,
possibly
with
the
complaint
not
being
resolved.
A
So
the
reason
why
we
would
contact
a
legendary
makers
yeah
to
just
a
research
that
complain
where
to
educate
the
complainant,
like
sometimes
there's
not
a
violation
but
there's
still
things
we
can
do
or
ask
to
help
alleviate
some
of
the
problems,
so
that
could
be
it
I
know
we
had.
E
E
Yeah
now
that
you
mentioned
those
months
and
the
numbers
I
think
I
understand
exactly
what
that's
reflecting.
We
have
moved
everything
over
to
Asheville
app,
and
so
all
the
noise
complaints
are
now
coming
to
Asheville
app
and
that
provides
Daniel
or
noise
administrator
with
direct
access
to
the
complaint
where
he
can
chat
with
them,
he
can
send
them
a
message:
hey
I
need
more
information
or
no.
B
E
B
Okay
and
then
the
other
thing
that
I
noticed
is
that
the
with
the
and
I
know
we've
we've
talked
about
this
before
and
again
it
might
just
be
the
going
to
the
app,
but
there
was
ongoing
investigation
in
modern
monitoring
was
not
anything
in
there
was.
They
were
all
zeros
across
the
board
in
2022
and
then
and
same
thing
for
January
and
February,
and
then
March
jumped
to
26th.
B
A
Because
so
a
case
ideally
gets
moved
out
of
ongoing
investigation
and
monitoring
after
a
certain
period
of
time,
if
we
go
30
days,
I
think
is
what
Daniel's
been
using
and
there's
been
no
complaints,
nothing
for
us
to
follow
up
on
investigate
I'm,
pretty
sure
he
moves
moves
it
to
a
closure
code.
Okay.
Does
that
sound
right,
Todd.
A
B
B
Gotcha
yeah
I
just
was
looking
at,
like
you
know,
just
look
going
through
and
seeing
what
was
really
standing
out
over.
You
know
comparing
basically
compared
the
last
quarter
of
2021
to
the
last
quarter
of
2022,
albeit
understanding
that
we
just
started
the
the
noise
ordinance
and
there
was
a
lot
of
ground
education
on
how
people
could
make
complaints
and
things
like
that
and
then
just
looking
at
you
know
the
first
quarter,
2022
and
2023,
knowing
again
we're
in
our
quietest
season
in
terms
of
and.
B
E
B
Gotcha,
okay,
yeah
and
then
basically,
the
only
other
trends
that
I
saw
were
that
residential
complaints
seem
to
be
right
about
the
same
as
they've
been
and
that
vehicle
noise
complaints
have
been
up
from
21
to
22
to
and
22
to
23..
So
it
seems
that
that's
something
that
just
which
just
again
just
reinforces
something
that
we
should
definitely
be
focusing
on,
as
that's
those
numbers
from
that
Court
last
quarter,
2021
to
2022
jumped
and
from
first
quarter
2022
to
2023..
B
B
B
Yeah
and
I
guess
it'll
just
be
interesting,
we'll
just
keep
an
eye
on
in
those
things
how
have
how's
since
moving
from
the
jot
form
in
February
to
the
Asheville
app
how's.
That
experience
been
from
the
reporting
side.
For
you
all
any
differences.
E
Not
other
than
it's
just
easier
for
me
to
keep
up
with
what
the
pace
is
because
I
see
all
the
ones
that
come
through
Asheville
app
I
was
not
getting
updates
from
jotform
when
those
came
through,
but
they
you
know
like
I
was
saying
before
they
pretty
slow
months.
We've
been
able
to
handle.
What's
came
ahead
and
I
think
that
the
citizenry
you
know
is
comfortable
with
National
Lab
and
and
communicates
with
us
that
way
fairly
well.
E
I
I
will
ask
Daniel
about
APD
request
because
I
I'm
curious
to
know
if
those
have
gone
down
since
we're
on
Asheville
I
have
now
or
not,
but
I'll
ask
him
that.
E
B
That
would
be
good
to
know
because
the
it
seemed
like
those
law
enforcement
functions
seem
to
be
about
the
same
or
handled
by
APD
in
the
field
seemed
about
the
same.
B
So
okay,
if
there's
no
other
questions
or
comments,
we'll
move
on
to
new
business,
which
is
sound,
exceedance
permits
and
so
Haley.
Can
you
give
us
an
update
in
terms
of
any
other
how
many
sound
exedence
permits
have
been
applied
for
for
2023
and
where
they
stand?
Let.
E
A
B
Okay,
there
is,
but
rabbit
rabbit
has
one
do
they
not
for
they.
A
Need
to
apply
for
one
if
their
season
starts
I
believe
in
May.
They
have
until
then
to
get
one
on
file.
Okay,.
F
I
think
I'd
just
like
to
make
a
request
for
like
this.
The
criteria
for
giving
a
sound
exceeds
permit
as
written
in
the
ordinances
fairly
rigorous.
It's
a
lot
of
stuff
I
assume
that
rabbit
rabbit
did
that
a
year
ago
could
could
the
city
share
whatever
documentation,
documents
and
measurements
and
whatever
that
went
along
with
conforming
to
the
ordinance
requirements
for
delivering
a
sound
exceedings
permit
it'd
just
be
handy.
A
So
in
theory,
in
theory,
the
information
should
be
publicly
available
through
the
citizen
access
portal,
just
by
looking
up
the
address
and
finding
the
sound
exceedings
permit
relating
to
it.
A
A
So
it's
possible
that
their
site
plan
might
look
a
little
different
this
year,
but
I
I'm,
not
honestly
sure
it
could
be.
They
could
be
submitting
the
same
thing.
What
they
submitted
last
year
was
adequate
for
approval.
E
And
with
that
particular
property,
if
I
remember
correctly,
they've
never
really
needed
the
exigence
permit.
They've
just
always
had
it
to
kind
of
cover
any
you
know
if
they
have
one
particular
event
that
was
exceeded
the
normal
standards.
For
some
reason
they
wanted
to
have
that,
but
they've
never
been
out
of
compliance
and
required
their
coverage
as
far
as
that
particular
property.
B
F
E
D
E
C
That's
correct:
the
property
is
actually
permitted,
but
the
the
business
actually
goes
ahead
and
and
applies
for
those
permits
again
to
be
part
of
that
situations
for
coverage
and
understanding
and
and
good
faith
to
the
community
is
my
understanding
where
that
all
stands.
D
B
A
All
right,
she's
checking
it
checking
in
with
Ashley
to
see
if
she
had
this
pulled
up
as
well.
So
there's
one:
that's
me:
that's
our
tester
phone.
So
there
are
no
callers
on
the
line
today.
D
B
Yes,
adjacent
noise
task
force,
my
apologies-
we
can
get
that
on
the
agenda
for
the
next
meeting
in
May
to
to
have.
If
do
you
have
anything
to
report
right
now,.
D
B
B
Okay,
we
can
put
that
on
the
the
agenda
for
for
May
any
last
questions
or
comments.
B
Okay,
well,
if
there's
no
objections,
we
will
adjourn
this
meeting.
Are
there
any
objections
to
adjourning
this
meeting?
No
none
heard
okay.
Our
next
meeting
will
be
on
Monday
May
8th
and
that
meeting
will
be
held
virtually
thanks.
Everyone
for
being
here
today
and
Haley
Rick
and
I
will
follow
up
with
you
about
getting
together
with
councilwoman
Mosley
and
next
steps.