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From YouTube: Human Relations Commission – May 18, 2023
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Regular meeting of the City of Asheville Human Relations Commission.
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A
To
help
our
audience
follow
along
I'll
State,
each
section
of
the
agenda
aloud
until
our
chair
gets
here
or
a
temporary
chair
is
voted
on.
We
will
just
do
the
informational
items.
First,
I'll
ask
committee
members
to
raise
your
hand
and
be
recognized
to
speak.
Please
state
your
name
each
time.
You
comment
and
just
a
reminder
that
the
public
is.
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B
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F
F
G
C
C
My
name
is
Tracy
Mann
I
used
to
live
on
Oakland,
Road
and
I
would
like
to
speak
about
policing
in
Asheville.
Unfortunately,
what
happened
with
the
assault
on
Mr
Whitmire
that
happened
on
Walton
is
not
unique.
This
isn't
the
first
time
this
has
happened
in
Asheville.
This
is
not
the
first
time
this
has
happened
across
this
nation
speaking
locally.
Only
six
percent
of
montgom
county
is
black
and
then
33
percent
of
persons
incarcerated
are
black.
This
is
obviously
racial
discrimination
and
policing,
like
I,
said
earlier.
C
I
watched
it
with
my
own
eyes
for
years
as
a
member
of
of
the
Oakland
Road
Community,
that's
nearby
Walton.
In
this
last
incident,
no
de-escalation
tactics
were
used.
The
communities
deserves
answers
as
to
why
there
was
no
de-escalation
by
Asheville
Police
Department
officers.
Safety
was
clearly
not
guaranteed
by
the
police.
That
day,
what
happened
was
an
assault.
An
independent
investigation
under
public
oversight
should
be
conducted.
Those
officers
need
to
be
held
responsible
for
what
they
did
body
camera
footage
needs
to
be
released.
C
The
chief
needs
to
communicate
with
the
community
that
was
harmed,
not
just
Mr
Whitmire,
but
also
the
persons
in
that
community.
The
chief
needs
to
communicate
with
the
persons
from
the
community
that
are
asking
to
speak
with
him.
He
needs
to
be
responsible
and
accountable
to
people
regarding
this
incident.
The
officers
who
employed
lethal
holds
should
not
be
in
the
streets
at
this
time.
Those
folks
should
absolutely
have
their
names
released
to
the
public.
They
also
need
to
be
held
accountable
publicly.
C
Only
Community
intervention
prevented
another
police
murder
they
used
illegal
holds
on
this
person's
neck
and
Community
intervention
prevented
further
harm
against
Mr
Whitmire
violence
in
our
black
neighborhoods
must
stop.
These
officers
need
to
be
held
accountable.
We
all
deserve
to
be
safe.
We
all
deserve
to
live.
Happily,
we
all
deserve
better
than
what
happened
to
Mr
Whitmer.
Thank
you.
E
E
H
Ma'am
two
things
to
note
on
this
particular
situation:
first,
the
event
that
occurred
Sunday
and
that's
what
we're
all
talking
about
here.
The
body
cam
footage
that
was
collected
during
that
event
by
the
officers
on
the
scene
has
already
been
provided
to
the
district
attorney's
office
along
with
any
other
evidence
that
was
collected
there.
H
I
can
tell
you
that
my
office
has
drafted
for
filing
tomorrow
morning
a
request
for
the
court
to
issue
an
order
to
release
the
body
cam
footage
publicly,
so
I'm
going
to
be
filing
that
tomorrow
morning,
so
that
we
can
add
to
the
necessary
transparency
for
the
community
to
see
what
happened
from
all
angles,
because
the
FBI
has
been
notified.
The
situation
that
normally
comes
from
the
District
Attorney's
office.
They
make
a
determination
if
they
believe
it's
necessary
to
contact
the
SBI.
E
H
H
H
I
What
about
the
him
being
is
Dr
records
was
any,
was
he
was
he
able
to
get
any
kind
of
Doctors
Care
wire
after
this
incident?
Was
there
any
blood
work
done
to
see?
Was
he
on
any
drugs
anything
that
that
could
shift
the
reason
why
he
was
acting
out
and
why
wasn't
there
nobody
there
when
the
police
had
come
to
get
me
or
whatever
they
already
have
a
jacket?
I
What
what
problem
I
got
I
got
going
on
in
my
past
and
with
his
situation
from
my
understanding,
he
did
have
a
mental
some
mental
stuff
going
on.
Why
wasn't
there?
No
mental
health
people
there
with
the
police
instead
of
the
police,
just
going
in
a
gun
holy
to
assassinate
another
black
individual,
the.
H
H
I
have
been
reviewing
this
case
today
and
as
it
is
my
understanding
that
the
individual
that
was
taken
into
custody
was
actually
not
the
reason
that
that
the
first
responding
officer
was
there.
They
were
actually
making
a
traffic,
stop
and
saw
this
particular
individual
because
they
had
been
briefed
very
recently
on
a
warrant
that
had
been
issued
for
his
arrest.
So
at
that
point,
additional
officers
were
called
in
immediately
for
backup.
Usually
those
people
are
already
in
the
field
and
they're
the
closest
ones.
H
H
We're
filing
the
motion
tomorrow:
yeah
there's
a
new
law
in
North
Carolina.
That
makes
it
a
little
bit
more
complicated
to
get
body
camera
footage,
but
we
are
starting
the
process
tomorrow.
We
are
ready
to
release
the
body
cam
footage,
but
we
have
to
have
a
court.
The
Buncombe,
County
Superior
Court,
must
sign
an
order.
We
have
to
get
a
judge
to
sign
an
order
to.
Let
us
do
that
before
we're
allowed
to.
So
we
are
filing
that
tomorrow
and
as
soon
as
the
judge
signs
that
we'll
release
the
body
cam
footage.
H
We
I
have
seen
that
and
because
this
is
one
good
aspect
about
the
process,
that's
in
place
now
is
that
anybody
has
the
right
to
come
and
object.
So
this
is
actually
a
hearing.
That's
going
to
occur
in
front
of
a
superior
court
judge,
and
anybody
has
the
ability
to
object
and
offer
the
reasons
why
a
judge
would
not
want
this
to
be
made
public.
H
The
city
feels
that
it's
important,
given
the
fact
that
a
large
portion
of
the
filming
of
this
has
already
been
released
to
the
public
exactly
so,
we
feel
as
if
much
of
this
information
is
already
out
there
and
anytime.
That
is
the
case.
The
city
wants
to
ensure
that
we
are
not
doing
anything
to
limit
the
transparency
of
the
community,
so
they
can
see
exactly
what
was
seen
and
done
and
heard
by
police
officers
and
give
the
public
a
full
picture
of
what
occurred.
H
It's
always
hard
to
say
with
with
the
judge's
office:
they
they
run
on
their
own
schedule,
but
we
expect
that
this
won't
take
a
long,
long
time.
I
would
imagine
days,
perhaps
maybe
a
week
or
so
to
get
this
done,
but
but
it
probably
will
not
happen
tomorrow.
Probably
not
obviously
we
have
the
weekend
after
that,
but
our
goal
is
to
get
it
done
as
quickly
as
possible
if
the
court
finds
it
appropriate
to
release
it.
D
D
H
Well,
what
what
I
could
say
without
trying
to
influence
the
The
public's
reaction
to
all
of
this?
What
I
would
say
is
that
we
are
aware
that
APD
was
in
the
area
for
a
traffic
stopped.
They
had
been
brief
because
a
warrant
had
been
taken
out
against
this
particular
individual
for
communicating
threats,
threats
of
violence,
including
perhaps
bodily
harm
resulting
in
death,
and
we
have
heard
some
we've
seen
some
text
messages
and
some
social
media
posts
that
are
essentially
along
the
lines
of
communicating
those
threats
to
family
members.
H
Our
officers
were
briefed
that
a
warrant
had
been
issued
by
a
family
member
to
take
this
guy
into
custody.
So
when
they
were
on
the
traffic
stop,
they
happened
to
see
him.
They
approached
the
individual,
they
asked
his
name.
He
actually
gave
an
incorrect
name.
He
gave
the
name
of
his
twin
brother,
but
APD
was
able
to
verify
they
had
pictures
of
him
and
they
had
different
tattoos.
They
let
him
know
that
they
knew
that
he
was
actually
not
his
twin
brother
and
that
they
were
going
to
take
him
into
custody.
H
H
I
cannot
and
would
not
want
to
speak
to
his
condition.
I
have
not
heard
any
examination
results.
Apd
has
not.
It
generally
does
not
do
any
kind
of
physical
examination
that
usually
occurs
after
the
fact,
unless
there's
an
immediate
need,
but
it
would
be
outside
of
my
knowledge
to
tell
you
if
he
had
any
injuries.
I
know
he's
still
in
custody
as
we
speak
today.
So
that
means
he
has
not
been
transferred
to
any
medical
facility.
H
H
H
I
I
And
why
do
we
are
we
still
paying
these
police
and
giving
them
the
the
okay
of
this
and
like
we
got
our
mayor
in
the
city
of
fish
and
nobody
is
coming
out
of
their
off
their
seats
to
to
justify
this
to
say
anything:
I
have
any
compassion
for
our
community.
Today,
I
was
canvas
in
the
community
in
Livingston
talking
to
the
kids,
and
they
traumatized
by
this.
I
So
if
our
mayor
and
our
chief
of
police
are
okay
with
our
kids
being
traumatized
by
these
by
these
Gang
Related
police
officers,
because
every
time
you
come
to
our
community,
you
call
I'm
I'm
in
the
game,
because
I
stay
in
Hillcrest.
What
about
the
police
they're
in
gangs?
You
come
in
our
community
treat
us
like
slaves.
I
You
I
mean
beat
this
out
this,
this
poor
guy
down
because
he
broke
because
of
one
his
ways
to
de-escalate
stuff
like
this
and
by
I
see
the
officials
not
speaking
out
about
this.
It
makes
us
look
bad
as
a
community
and
they
have
our
kids
crying
and
talking
to
us.
They
they
hated
their
lives,
they
want
to
leave,
but
where
they
gonna
go.
Where
can
you
go
when
you're
a
mother
with
no
job
with
four
kids
struggling
her
little
baby
walking
around
in
pimples?
They
want
to
leave
a
place
there.
I
They
feel
unsafe,
but
a
home
supposed
to
be
filled
where
you
got
love
and
protection
and
we
won't
be
loved
and
protected
by
the
police.
Also,
but
I
don't
feel
no
love
for
no
police
when
you
are
coming
in
with
your
guns
that
want
to
kill
me
put
me
in
holes
because
of
my
record:
no
individual,
no
person
what
color
you
are
should
be
treated
like
a
dog.
This
is
the
reason
why
we
are
here
with
the
CWA
community.
I
Health
workers
is
to
make
sure
everybody
is
treated
like
a
human
being,
no
matter
what
color
you
are.
What
gender
you
are,
or
whatever
you
got
going
on?
This
is
what
we
want.
We
want
it
all
the
way
across
the
board
for
everybody
to
be
treated
fairly,
and
this
guy
was,
he
wasn't
treated
fairly.
Everything
was
wrong
on
every
on
every
side,
his
side,
the
police
side.
We
want
this,
so
it
will
not
happen
again.
Luckily,
the
people
was
there
to
take
cameras.
I
E
I
H
Well,
I
would
just
like
to
say
I
appreciate
the
comments.
Mr
Young
and
I
can
tell
you
that,
on
behalf
of
the
city
council,
today,
I
received
multiple
requests
to
get
more
information
about
this,
so
that
they
can
learn
more
about
what
has
occurred,
and
it
was
one
of
the
reasons
that
my
office
was
looking
into.
All
the
details
about
this
and
I
have
just
this
afternoon
city
council,
more
information
about
what
we
have
found
and
let
them
know
that
it
is
our
plan
to
seek
release
of
that
body.
H
Cam
footage,
because
I
believe
wholeheartedly
that
to
a
person,
every
member
of
our
city
council
shares
many
of
the
sentiments
that
you've
expressed,
and
that
is
our
goal-
that
we
reach
a
point
where
everybody
in
this
community
feels
safe
and
protected
within
their
own
life
and
that
it
is
the
duty
of
every
member
of
City
staff,
especially
including
our
Law
Enforcement
Officers,
to
make
the
people
who
live,
work
and
play
here
feel
safe
and
protected.
So
I
appreciate
fully
your
comments
and
rest
assured
that
we
will
keep
our
city
council
our.
H
F
I
would
like
to
say
that
please
keep
this
Commission
in
the
loop,
because
this
deals
specifically
with
equity
and
how
individuals,
especially
African-Americans,
are
treated
when
it
comes
to
interacting
with
police
and
I
I.
I.
Don't
want
to
see
this
commission
not
be
on
the
Forefront
if
it's
brought
to
our
table
to
have
to
address
the
equity
of
how
the
police
or
any
other
city
of
office
approaches,
equity,.
E
E
E
When
you
don't
know
somebody
talking
about
something,
because,
after
the
whole
work
from
the
beginning
to
end
so
I
do
say
that
this
part
doesn't
be
indicative
of
that.
But
I
also
say
that
this
is
a
situation
where
you
have
to
look
at
every
capacity
and
tied
into
what
happened
here,
and
we
don't
know
all
of
that,
and
we
have
nobody
here
right
now
talking
to
us,
the
outside
commissioner
young,
who
had
a
personal
account.
E
We
all
don't
know
a
lot
of
details
about
the
situation
because
of
the
situation
came
from.
It
was
push
stop
into
social
media
before
there
was
any
type
of
other
type
of
situation.
That's
what
makes
it
such
a
great
area,
because
white
nights
and
I
see
why
the
city
is
very
impressive.
Upon
making
this
body
camera
position,
even
though
from
the
news.
E
Because
what
news
13
said
was
they
did
not
want
this
body
Camp
when
it's
released
and
for
the
city
to
push
for
that
body
count.
But
it's
you
know
I
just
want
everybody
to
take
a
minute
and
just
look
at
both
sides
and
I
could
say
some
more
but
I'm
not
at
this
moment
in
time,
because
I
can't
disclose
situations
that
have
come
to
me
in
another
outside
that
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
sport
and.
F
F
B
F
I
feel
I
feel
discouraged,
but
can
we
for
the
interest
of
going
forth
tonight?
I
I
hear
you
and
we
are
going
to
allow
the
district
attorney
and
those
two
that
will
be
in
charge
of
this
investigation.
Please
keep
us
once
again
outside.
Please
keep
the
human
relations
Commission
in
the
loop,
because
this
does
affect
equity
and
we
just
want
to
be
prepared
to
address.
E
E
You
will
see
exactly
what
they're
going
to
show
to
the
public,
but
until
this
case
is
handled,
you
will
never
know
were
precipitated
it
from
A
to
B
and
that's
why
I
tell
people
until
this
is
over
with
and
and
tired,
because
there's
been
a
lot
of
things
that
you
don't
know
about.
Until
after
the
setting
up.
G
E
F
Good
good
points,
good
discussion,
I
think
we
feel
comfortable.
You
feel
comfortable
with
your
public
comment.
All
right.
The
chair
has
come
in
and
I
don't
know
we
was
waiting
for
the
chair
to
come
in
to
see
if
there
was
going
to
be.
You
were
going
to
give
us
an
a
public
comment,
but
do
you
still
want
to
do
that
or
wait
till
later.
F
A
L
L
The
situation
is
very
difficult
and
I
can't
speak
on
behalf
of
the
family.
I'm,
not
here
to
speak
on
behalf
of
the
family.
I'm,
not
here
to
speak
on
what
transpired
before
before
the
assault
on
Mr
Whitmire.
I
am
here
to
speak
about
on
the
fact
that
we
want
to
have
an
opportunity
to
meet
with
City
officials
to
talk
Solutions
there
were
there
were
illegal,
hoes
moved.
There
was
no
de-escalation
tactics
move.
There
was
information
that
could
have
been
utilized
to
to
approach
this
thing
differently.
L
Like
I
said
this
is
not
to
to
to
downplay
or
to
take
away
from
what
had
transpired
before
the
event.
It's
here
to
talk
about
what
we
can
do
and
why
we
want
to
have
these
meetings
because
we
feel
like
this
has
to
be
solution
based.
We
feel
like
that.
There
are
other.
There
are
alternatives
that
we
can
use.
We
have
community
health
workers,
we
have.
L
We
have
so
many
community
members
that
can
be
utilized
in
situations
like
this,
but
there's
also
trainings
that
we
feel
like
our
officers
need
there
are
there
has
to
be.
There
has
to
be
some
accountability
for
young
officers.
Coming
into
communities
where
they
don't
have
any
relationships,
or
they
don't
have
any
connections
to
see
if
we
can
start
building
on
that
opportunity.
This
is
not
to
you
know.
Whatever
happens
with
this
case
is
going
to
happen.
The
D.A
already
closed
the
case.
L
The
investigation
has
already
been
closed,
but
we
are
trying
to
be
a
part
of
a
collective
and
collaborative
effort
to
come
up
with
Solutions,
so
this
won't
happen
again
and
if
and
if
that
can
happen
sooner
than
later,
that
would
be
great,
because
what
we
don't
want
is
to
go
into
a
summer
where
a
community
has
been
traumatized.
Commissioner,
young
talked
about
the
young
people
that
he
talked
to
that
are
still
traumatized
they're.
L
Still,
this
overreaching
there's
still
this
overreaching
short
sense
of
power
when
some
officers
come
into
our
communities
and
that
can
be
a
trauma
stressor
right
there
just
the
way
they
come
in.
So
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of.
There
was
a
lot
of
escalation
when
we
look
at
the
video,
but
Community
escalation
should
be
expected
when
there
is
no
one
there
trying
to
de-escalate.
So
we
feel
like
that
should
be
a
big
part
of
police
trainings.
L
You
know
we
talked
about
disability
training
which
one
of
the
trainings
I
went
through,
which
is
a
great
training.
Hopefully
that'll
be
back
on
the
table
from
my
understanding,
they're,
not
looking
at
that
training,
but
prayerfully
that
has
gone
to
you
know.
Hopefully
we
can.
We
can
like
come
together
to
make
sure
that
training
happens.
I,
think
it's
important
I
took
the
training
and
it
was
good
for
us
to
be
open
with
not
with
no
biases
being
held
right.
L
E
E
All
of
my
seven
years
of
being
here,
the
initiative,
the
inaugural
hrca,
the
first
meeting
that
I
was
at
they
were
at
South
Side.
When
we
dealt
with
the
the
situation
that
went
on,
and
we
don't
need
to
do
that
because,
like
I
said
we're
gonna
keep
the
minds
open,
but
today
I
was
not
informed
that
we
were
here.
I
think
that's
a
privilege
that
we
should
know
so
all
right.
E
J
H
Well,
as
I
think,
it's
already
been
stated,
and
you
all
are,
are
obviously
well
aware.
These
meetings
are
public,
so
we
do
open
it
up
to
anyone,
including
the
media
and,
generally
speaking,
the
rules
for
public
meetings
allow
the
media
to
both
attend
and
record
so
long
as
they
don't
interfere
with
the
proceedings
of
the
meeting.
We
won't
speak
to
their
individual
legal
rights,
but
they
do
have
the
same
right
to
attend
the
meetings
as
anyone
else
and
yeah
I.
Don't
you
know?
H
So
in
these
cases
no
and
I
will
say
all
of
the
meetings
are
already
streamed
online
on
so
actually
we
already
have
these
online,
so
this
is
already
a
public
feed
and
the
media
has
essentially
the
same
right
to
record.
We're
not
allowed
to
restrict
in
a
public
meeting
anybody's
ability
to
record
either
audio
or
video
unless
we
went
into
a
closed
session
and
we're
only
allowed
to
do
those
under
certain
circumstances.
A
M
B
E
M
M
Surprise
media
in
the
room,
not
that
you
know
glad
you're
here,
but
you
know
it
it's
it's
a
shock
and
it's
a
little
different.
So
thank
you
for
understanding
and
your
patience.
Do
you?
We
have
any
discussion
on
moving
the
meeting
to
Virtual.
There
were
a
few
things
that
came
up
in
regards
to
accessibility,
which.
M
E
It's
not
saying
that
the
media
amp
and
stuff,
but
what
I'm
saying
is
you
know
little
birds,
don't
tell
secrets
until
somebody
goes
into
it.
So
I
don't
know
at
what
point
in
time
somebody
reached
out
to
these
entities
to
make
this
a
really
prevalent
situation,
but
I
also
feel
very
traumatized
by
so
before.
I
was
going
to
vote
for
you,
but
now
I
do
understand
something
about
PTSD.
E
E
E
E
B
N
E
B
M
And
so
when
we
set
the
precedent,
then
that
precedent
allows
for
people
to
join
in
and
and
and
join
into,
the
culture
that
we
created
for
the
commission
and
so
right.
Now
the
culture
of
the
commission
is
to
meet
in
person
to
have
discussion
and
to
do
the
meetings.
We
recognize
that
that
culture
is
no
longer
a
safe
culture
to
be
in
so.
D
M
Shifting,
the
culture,
what
we
can
do
is
create
a
safe
environment
for
anybody
that
wants
to
join
and
open
it
up:
accessibility,
wise
to
people
that
may
not
be
able
to
join
the
commission
because
of
of
issues
within
accessibility.
So
it's
not
closing
the
meeting
down.
It's
opening
the
meeting
up
and
it's
setting
a
precedent
for
a
new
culture,
we're
cycling
out
you're
starting
anew,
so
you're,
creating
this
environment
where
people
can
really
explore.
A
M
F
Problem
with
that
is,
is
that
it
just
it
just
prolongs
the
conversation
a
little
bit
longer
and
whereas
I've
heard
everything
and
I
understand
everything.
The
people
sitting
around
here
and
those
that
are
going
to
be
rolling
off
are
very
much
aware
of
the
meeting.
The
meeting
space
the
meeting
needs
and,
as
was
stated
by
the
current
chair,
set
precedent,
go
ahead
and
set
it
in
stone,
because
this
is
how
we're
going
to
meet,
and
then
whoever
comes
on
to
this
Commission
will
follow
suit.
With
what
we
have
agreed
upon.
J
I
think
initially
before
today,
I
was
wondering
virtual,
so
I
have
to
have
it
incident
happened
today.
I
think
that
we
need
to
be
president.
You
know
us
being
here
today
gave
some
community
members
a
chance
to
speak,
others
and
I.
Don't
know
if
I
would
have
learned
about
this
incident
before
this
meeting.
M
Well
then,
maybe
the
best
thing
to
do
is
to
hold
off,
but
listen,
hear
me
out,
hear
me
out
so
hold
to
hold
off
on
the
vote.
So
let
to
let
this
energy
that
was
experienced
here
in
this
room
calmed
down
and
then
let
that
be
the
vote
for
the
new
commission
to
decide
upon
where
everybody
is
here
and
present
just
to
push
up.
You
know
one
more
meaning
so
that
we
can
have
that.
That
balance,
you.
M
M
M
E
E
E
If
I'm
not
going
to
be
here
to
be
able
to
I,
don't
want
to
vote
for
something
and
then
walk
away
and
not
have
an
impact.
So
I
feel
like
if
we're
gonna
have
that
situation
you're
in
a
vice
chair,
if
it's
possible
until
maybe
because
I
don't
want
to
influence
this
board
in
that
aspect,
I
want.
If
this
is.
B
E
E
How
did
it
feel
what
were
y'all
able
to
get
done?
What
was
the
Hangouts
and
I
think
that's
something
that
a
lot
of
people
don't
talk
about
is
because
either
a
you
never
want
to
talk
to
about,
and
then
B
who's
going
to
do
something
about
it.
If
there's
no
such
thing
so
I,
don't
think
people
know
what
their
experiences
since
are
of
some
people
have
done
before
the
commissions
and
over
the
years
we've
had
some
people
who've
been
very
connected,
not
to
say
that
that
was
a
problem.
E
At
the
same
time,
you
can
only
imagine
what
transpired
from
this
time
so
I
think
it
would
be
helpful.
The
boards
and
commissions
to
be
able
to
have
a
entity
in
there
where
people
ask
hey
we're
so
glad
that
you
served
this
amount
of
time
and
what
was
your
experience
while
you
were
there?
How
can
you
what
can
go.
A
O
A
I
B
E
Life
altering
and
trying
to
experience
personally,
especially
as
a
resident
of
the
city
of
Ashley,
because
I
used
to
say
nobody
put
me
on
board
I.
Never
never
thought
they'd
put
me
on
a
new
board
that
had
never
even
been
tried
out
day.
One
like
I
said:
I
remember
the
first
day
I
walked
into
the
HRC
and
he
got
into
Branson.
When
we
had
our
first
meeting.
Can
we
actually
was
that
time
she
was
the
the
equity
officer
and
it
was
so
cool
I.
Remember.
E
E
Sometimes
you're
gonna
have
to
ask
yourself
a
question
is:
is
what
I'm
doing
on
in
the
best
to
have
of
not
just
the
community
that
I
serve,
but
as
a
city
an
Italian
model,
because
a
lot
of
people
don't
ever
understand.
You
know
we're
not
just
dealing
with
people
who
live
within
our
city.
We're
doing
people
live
within
our
County.
E
Sometimes
you
have
to
backtrack
yourself,
whatever
I
thought
means,
and
you
will
learn
more
if
you
learn,
if
you
let
yourself
learn,
never
be
afraid
to
ask
that
gentleman
right
there,
of
course,
because
that
the
taxpayers
paying
them
to
do
feel
the
legal
energy
for
the
City
of
Ash
and
never
be
afraid
to
ask
questions
to
anybody.
That
is
a
civil
servant
of
our
community,
and
you
should
pick
up
yourselves
as
civil
servants.
Then
none
of
pain,
trust
in
you
enough.
E
They
thought
that
you
have
the
ability
and
a
way
to
be
able
to
change
the
scope
of
my
house
of
people
that
you
don't
so
I,
always
think
about
the
people
that
you
don't
talk
to
That
You
Don't,
See
that
you
might
not
walk
across
the
street
to
everywhere,
because
those
are
your
people
too
never
think
about
a
people
in
one
entity.
Think
about
it
as
a
humanitarianism.
E
E
And
thank
you
for
having
me
I
thank
Karen.
Could
you
please
tell
us
today
Ashley.
Thank
you
so
much
to
city
council.
Thank
you
so
much
for
entrusting
me
with
this
response,
because
this
is
a
great
response
and
thank
you
so
much
over
the
years
for
giving
me
this
experience
and
trusting
with
this
responsibility
and
I
wish
you
all
the
best
of
luck
in
whatever
Endeavors
that
you
have
thank.
M
It
has
been
one
of
the
greatest
honors
of
my
life
to
serve
in
this
capacity
and
with
all
of
you,
with
all
of
the
former
Commissioners
that
have
been
on
this
board
and
rolled
off
this
board
and
I've
gotten
mad
and
have
moved
away
and
have
stayed
and
just
couldn't
couldn't
hang
because
we
do
go
over
some
pretty
heavy
duty
issues
in
here
I'm
grateful
that
we've
gotten
recommendations
to
the
table.
Recommendations
to
city
council
that
Kim
is
councilwoman.
M
And
Dolores
before
covid
and
all
of
the
things
that
we
hear
and
hear
to
affect
policy
in
government
and
representation
on
this
Commission,
it's
an
honor
to
work
with
you,
Brad,
getting
all
my
emails
and
your
patients.
Your
infinite
well
of
patience
is
something
that
I
can
only
achieve
wish
to
achieve.
Once
in
my
life
once.
M
Thank
you
and
thank
you
to
the
city
of
Asheville
for
trusting
in
me
and
all
of
us
for
showing
up
for
you
and
hearing
your
requests
for
change
your
demands
for
Change
and
offering
us
the
opportunity
to
enact
that
change
within
the
system,
walking
the
lines
of
establishment
and
non-establishment
and
Powerful
ways.
Thank
you
very
much.
All
of
you
and
blessings
to
the
future
of
the
hrca.
M
M
M
M
M
A
B
B
M
F
D
H
On
and
everybody
struggles
with
it,
so
you're
perfect,
you're
already
doing
better
than
most
the
way
this
works,
and
it's
a
little
different
than
other
votes.
Is
you
you
start
out
perfectly,
which
is
we
open
up
for
nominations,
and
you
finish
the
nominations.
Three
people
are
nominated
in
order
to
get
elected.
You
still
have
to
have
someone
receive
a
majority
vote.
Now
you
have
one
two,
three,
four,
five,
six,
seven
people,
so
somebody
needs
to
receive
four
votes.
H
You're
only
allowed
to
vote
for
one
person,
okay
and
if
we
don't
have
on
the
first
go
through
somebody
get
four
votes.
Whoever
got
the
least
amount
of
votes
will
no
longer
be
in
the
running
the
second
time,
and
if
we
have
an
endless
tie,
then
you're
going
to
have
to
debate
amongst
yourselves
about
how
to
break
that
time,
figure
out
who
to
vote
for
so
you
have
three
votes
and
a
member
will
just
as
chair
Rodriguez
has
done.
H
D
O
I
wonder:
did
we
at
some
point,
have
a
co-chair
situation
here
at
this
body?
Never
had
a
co-chair,
so
I
wonder
if
it
would
help
folks
to
know
what
the
role
of
the
chair
and
vice
chair
is
because,
if
they're
signing
up
for
extra
work,
my
understanding
is
for
this
group
that
the
chair
spent
some
time
with
staff
to
outline
the
agenda.
So
there's
an
extra
amount
of
meeting
and
then,
if
that
person
can't
be
there,
the
vice
chair
is
there
to
support.
But
that
doesn't
mean
that
you
can't
do
things
in
a
different
way.
O
If
the
vice
chair,
for
example,
I've,
been
on
the
transit
committee
and
two
people
would
go
from
the
transit
committee
to
meet
with
the
staff
and
work
on
the
agenda.
So
just
because
there's
a
way
that
things
are
done
doesn't
mean
it
has
to
be
the
way
things
are
done.
But
since
you
have
recently
been
the
chair,
it
might
help
to
hear
how
much
time
you've
put
into
the
role.
D
M
You
that's
a
good
point.
So,
as
chair
and
vice
chair,
we
are
present
for
hour-long
meetings
and
creating
the
agenda.
Sometimes
they
go
20
minutes.
Sometimes
they
can
go
an
hour
and
that's
once
a
month
also
as
chair
and
vice
chair
is
typically
the
people
that
field
a
lot
of
the
stuff
that
comes
in
for
the
commission.
M
M
There's
a
lot
involved
in
that
learning
curve
and
if
you
have
not
done
the
research,
it's
something
that
is
important
to
do
and
that
level
of
research
can
take
a
month
so
of
constant
yeah.
Well,
it's
obviously
years
to
show
up
and
to
continue
show
up,
as
you
know,
I
continually
learning
as
chair
I
defer
to
Brad
and
Elena,
often,
and
it's
because
even
in
the
four
years
that
I've
served
with
this
commission,
I'm
continually
learning
something
new
and
so
having
the
openness
and
willingness
to
put
in
the
time.
M
M
E
M
E
M
And
I
think
one
of
the
most
important.
Thank
you
for
that
input.
I
think
the
one
of
the
most
important
things
about
the
charity
is
that
it
is
not
a
position
of
authority,
it
it's
a
position
of
service,
and
so
when
sitting
in
chair
in
the
seat
of
the
chair
and
the
seat
of
Vice
chair
it's
to
be
present
for
the
commission
as
a
neutral
seat
in
the
commission.
E
E
M
E
M
M
M
O
M
O
There
is
a
lot
of
responsibility
to
say
thank
you
for
sharing
your
experience
and
your
experience
as
the
vice
chair,
but
I
wanted
to
reiterate
that
you're,
not
alone,
your
service
is
invaluable
to
the
city
of
Asheville.
Your
mission
is
critical
and
so,
in
addition
to
staff,
I'm
happy
to
help,
as
liaison
I,
hear
a
extension
of
support,
Beyond
Your
Service
here,
which
is
very
generous,
and
we
can
always
do
better.
O
A
D
G
H
D
M
F
F
I
firmly
believe
in
equity
for
all
men
and
women,
I'm
very
much
Community
minded
and
I
believe
that
everyone
in
the
community
has
a
voice.
And
if
this
commission
is
to
do
what
they
need
to
do
for
human
relations,
then
we
will
hear
those
voices
and
speak
out
for
those
that
can't
speak
for
themselves.
Sure.
M
I
A
B
D
D
M
N
N
And
the
number
in
which
I
received
you
have
to
think
about
multi-family
and
single
family,
so
a
multi-family
can
consist
of
a
mother
and
three
children
with
the
children's
father
and
they
may
be
completely
homeless,
living
on
someone's
couch
using
an
address.
So
we
talked
about
that
that
not
being
their
specific
address,
so
they
are
still
to
could
be
considered
homeless.
N
N
N
I
E
Something
like
I
didn't
mean
to
say:
I
was
one
of
them,
don't
get
me
wrong.
I
know.
Let
me
think
about
it,
because
it's
been
a
lot.
You've
been
about
seven
years
of
your
personal
time
being
so,
I
don't
want
to
have
and
it
can
be
kind
of
traumatic
and,
like
I
said
today,
they
will
be
traumatized
what
it
is.
E
I
Number
one
I
think
for
me,
and
the
equity
Department
teaching
our
community
how
to
deal
with
money
and
importance
of
money,
so
I
think
we're
working
on
it,
but
I
think
it
needed
to
be
some
more
fine
tunes
for
us
to
really
be
intentional
for
what
we
want,
how
long
we
got
the
world,
but
his
community
teaching
them
about
the
escrow
account
keeping
that
accountable
with
the
housing
where
they
don't
say
the
money
and
Supply.
You
know
the
money
is
missing,
but
it's
kind
of
hard
to
miss
some
money.
I
I
E
E
E
E
E
You
have
to
see
where,
because
sometimes
disparities
start
and
they
don't
even
recognize
it,
but
it
is
very
systemic
and
that's
the
thing
about
disparities,
and
so
I
would
encourage
y'all
to
look
at
stuff
like
that,
because
we-
because
we
start
seeing
things
like
that,
if
you
kind
of
bring
it
home
a
little
bit
to
when
it
makes
it
more.
Impactful
here
comes
like
this
place
right
here,
isn't
like
that,
how
we
get
here
and
we
have
more
people
per
capita
that
looks
like
this
or
have
this
situation
or
in
this
struggle.
A
I
I
N
I
I
I
M
J
F
D
D
There
are
a
lot
of
interesting
things
to
do
down
there
and
if,
and
you
can
dance
food,
there
are
a
lot
of
human
interest
things
and
for
us
getting
in
with
businesses
as
well,
and
when
you
get
tired,
when
you
get
the
feel
of
all
of
that,
Brenda
will
be
there
and
she
will
teach
you
how
to
dance.
Oh,
she
will.
She
will
bring
the
things
she
should
be
there
to
teach
you
how
to
dance
and
it'll
be
plenty
of
fun,
food
and
everything.