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A
We
are
now
live.
Thank
you
amy
good
afternoon
everyone
and
welcome
to
the
june
22
2022
city
of
asheville,
multimodal
transportation
commission
meeting.
My
name
is
dennis
wetzel
and
I'm
the
chair
of
this
group.
Our
meetings
continue
to
be
held
virtually,
but
there
are
many
ways
for
interested
parties
to
participate
in
this
gathering.
A
The
city
of
asheville
engagement
hub,
which
includes
a
variety
of
links
and
phone
numbers,
can
be
found
in
the
multimodal
transportation
commission
page
of
the
city
of
asheville
website
visiting
this
page
is
the
best
way
for
you
to
take
part
in
our
virtual
meetings,
member
staff
and
guests.
Please
remember
to
keep
your
microphones
muted
at
all
times
when
you're,
not
speaking,
so
we
can
minimize
feedback
and
other
background
noises.
I'd
like
to
now
welcome
our
commission
members
members.
When
I
call
your
name,
please
introduce
yourself
and
let
us
know
what
interest
you
represent.
C
Hey
kenny
here,
I
also
sit
on
the
greenway
community.
E
F
John
bossoni
and
I
am
on.
G
Hey
y'all,
I'm
on
the
bikepad
taskforce,
hey.
A
Megan
bill
loftus.
A
Bill
leanna
joyner.
A
Hey
liam
joe
archibald.
J
A
Hey
joe
and
our
newest
member
elizabeth
lycus.
K
Hi
everyone-
I
am
the
liaison
to
the
neighborhood
advisory
council
and
glad
to
be
here.
A
A
I
got
a
second
from
maggie
I'll.
Do
a
quick
roll
call,
randy
hi,
kenny.
D
F
A
C
A
A
F
A
I'll
take
that
motion
in
a
second
there's
teddy
any
comments
on
our
minutes.
I
A
K
I'm
sorry
I
was
I
was
listed
as
present
in
the
minutes
and
I
was
not
at
that
meeting
so
just.
I
My
name
was
spelled
a
couple
different
ways
several
times
with
an
e
at
the
end,
rather
than
an
a
just
might
be
helpful
for
the
record.
If
it's.
D
And
I
was
I
was
listening
in.
I
was
at
the
airport,
so
I
couldn't
get
a
video,
but
I
was
listening
to
everything
after
the
first
20
minutes,
gotcha.
A
Okay,
so
we
can
make
a
motion
to
approve,
with
with
those
notes,
does
that
sound
substitute
motion
good
with
that
excellent
all.
A
Yeah,
all
right
so
do
a
roll
call
on
that.
Randy
warren
hi,
candy,
armstrong,
hi,
pepcats,
hi,
john
bossoni.
D
A
The
next
item
is
new
business.
The
a3
363
hillary
project,
additional
right
away,
closure
jessica.
L
K
D
F
D
F
M
So
if
you
recall
several
months
ago,
I
brought
forward
a
right
away,
closure
request
that
was
associated
with
the
avery
project
and
the
timing
was
a
little
wonky,
because
our
meeting
was
the
day
after
a
the
council
meeting
and
the
council
had
denied
the
avery
project,
zoning
request,
and
so
for
that
particular
right-of-way
closure.
M
The
multimodal
commission
and
staff
had
recommended
that
it
not
be
approved
and
then,
following
that
the
council
met
again
and
approved
the
project
and
approved
the
initial
right-of-way
closure
request
with
that
project.
So
this
is
actually
a
different
right-of-way
closure
request
associated
with
the
same
project
and
I'll
walk
you
guys
through
it.
It's
relatively
straightforward,
so
it's
the
same
applicant
delray
ventures
and
it
is
on
the
same
property
as
the
as
what
we
talked
about
before.
M
The
green
line
towards
the
top
was
rear,
clingman
avenue-
that
is
the
one
that
was
previously
closed
and
the
one
that
is
before
you
today
is
an
orange
and
it's
it
connects
the
pearl
street,
but
it
doesn't
have
any
connection
through
the
parcel,
and
so
that
is
what
they're
seeking
to
have
closed
at
this
time.
M
I
also
have
in
here
their
site
plan,
which
is
also
linked
in
your
agenda,
so
you
can
take
a
closer
look
and
you
can
see
this
red
hatched
area
towards
the
bottom
right.
That
is
the
area
that
is
the
unopened
right
away.
There
is
a
sewer
sewer
line
in
this
area,
so
an
easement
will
be
maintained
for
msd
there
and
there
will
be,
you
know,
no
kind
of
permanent
structures
built
within
that.
M
A
B
So
I'm
sorry,
but
you
showed
us
in
terms
of
background.
I
know
it
was
very
unusual
that
the
av
project
came
back
up
against
again
to
council
so
quickly
and
then
was
approved
and
they
approved
the
right
way.
Closures,
even
though
staff
and
multimodal
had
recommended
not
to
have
those
that
closed,
because
we
didn't
have
plans
and
we
couldn't
do
anything
of
just
the
final
project.
B
But
can
you
so
that
this
seems
unusual,
and
it
makes
me
a
little
questionable
whether
this
is
proceeding.
B
M
Yeah,
it
definitely
was
I'll,
say
different
and
the
reason
that
we
we
didn't
recommend
approval
well
so,
when
the
council,
prior
to
the
council
meeting
when
the
project
went
through
trc
planning
and
zoning,
all
of
that
the
staff
was
in
support
of
the
project
and
we
were
in
support
of
the
right-of-way
closure.
M
However,
when
it
went
to
council
and
the
council
denied
the
conditional
zoning
we
at
that
moment
in
time,
which
just
happened
to
be
the
day
before
your
meeting,
then
at
that
moment
in
time,
the
project
was
quote:
unquote
dead
and
so
technically,
at
your
meeting
the
next
day,
there
was
no
project
anymore
and
that's
why
we
recommended
denial
at
that
time.
M
So
when
the
council
sort
of
reversed
their
decision
several
weeks
later,
then
the
project
was
revived
and
therefore
you
know,
I
think
staff's
original
recommendation
was
still
there.
So
from
a
technical
standpoint,
we
that
didn't
have
any
problem
with
the
project
and
it
there
was
no
real
issue
with
the
site
plan
or
the
right-of-way
closure
request.
The
reason
that
council
initially
denied
it
was
they
were
unhappy
with
the
level
of
affordable
housing
included
in
the
project
which
didn't
really
have
any
bearing
on
the
design
of
the
project
at
all.
M
So
it
was
a
little
bit
confusing
the
timeline,
but
it
was
just
a
weird
timing
situation
with
council
meetings
and
y'alls
and
mmtc
meetings.
I
don't
know
if
that
helps
explain
it.
B
Well,
yeah:
I
think
it
does
help
some
one
thing
I
know
talked
about
sidewalks
and
how
that
corner
was
going
to
be
designed,
and
that
was
not
that
we
were
bargaining,
certainly
with
them
over
this.
We're
not
allowed
to
do
that,
but
I'm
wondering
if
we
get
the
things
that
we
were
hoping.
The
project
was
going
to
do
to
improve
the
streets
and
the
multimodal
aspects
of
that.
M
It
is
yes,
it
did
get
included,
so
we
had
initially
negotiated
with
the
developer
for
there
to
be
a
improvement
to
the
bike
lane
facility
on
hilliard,
and
that
is
still
included
in
the
project.
M
So
they
will
be-
and
you
can
actually
kind
of
see
it
on
the
very
bottom
of
this
page-
it's
very
difficult
to
see,
but
they
are
going
to
be
bringing
the
curb
line
into
their
property
by
about
five
or
six
feet
so
that
we
can
actually
have
a
standard
bike
lane
within
hilliard,
rather
than
it
being
kind
of
a
shared
space
with
the
through
lane.
So
that
is
still
happening,
and
that
is
part
of
the
overall
project
when
it
moves
to
construction.
H
M
No,
it
was
closed
that
went
through
the
council
process.
It
just
didn't
come
back
to
multimodal
between
there
was.
There
was
not
an
additional
time
to
bring
it
back
to
multimodal
and
then
go
back
to
council.
So
the
council
city
council
closed
the
the
right-of-way,
the
green
line,
that's
showing
up
on
the
top
left
corner.
A
So
the
green
line
was
the
first
right
away.
The
second
one,
the
one
that
we're
putting
on
now
was
not
a
part
of
the
initial
conversation,
because
it
wasn't
wasn't
thought
to
need
to
be
closed
now
with
some
new
information.
We
now
know
that
to
be
close
and
jessica.
If
you
can
correct
me,
if
I'm
wrong,
it
looks
like
the
new
plan
will
have.
Essentially,
this
is
parking
spaces.
It's
it's
going
to
be
still
open
and
you
know
passable,
even
though
it's
private
property,
but
passable
by
people
going
through
there.
M
Right
and
yeah,
they
can't
build
any
structures
in
this
area
because
there's
a
sewer
line
there.
So
it's
essentially
was
the
driveway.
I
guess
the
access
to
the
parcel,
and
so
I
we
originally
didn't
think
it
needed
to
be
closed
because
it
was
just
going
to
remain
there
and
still
be
kind
of
used
as
a
driveway.
A
Without
other
questions,
we
can
entertain.
I
E
A
F
A
John
may
have
fallen
off
maggie
allman.
D
D
A
M
Okay,
sorry,
I
need
to.
I
need
to
switch
and
share
this
tab.
Okay,
so
it's
possible
that
we've
spoken
a
little
bit
about
this
previously,
but
it's
also
likely
that
we
haven't.
So,
as
you
guys
know,
ncdot
is
going
to
be
repaving
all
of
us
25,
which
includes
merriman.
M
M
Essentially,
what
we're
talking
about
is
in
the
southbound
direction,
if
you
recall,
there's
currently
two
lanes
going
southbound
and
then
in
the
northbound
direction,
there's
one
lane,
but
it's
a
kind
of
a
really
wide
lane.
So
we
can.
We
can
in
fact
include
two
dedicated
bike
lanes
in
there
if
we
drop
one
of
the
southbound
lanes.
M
So
this
is
just
a
very
rudimentary
concept
sketch
of
what
that
would
look
like
the
parking
and
loading
zones.
All
of
that
would
remain,
as
is,
we
are
planning
to
do
some
business
outreach
and
property
owner
outreach
in
the
coming
weeks
to
talk
with
them
about
it,
mostly
to
get
some
input
on
if
they
want
any
loading
zones
or
parking
re-stripes,
because
all
of
this
is
going
to
be
re-striped
as
part
of
ncdot's
repaving
process.
M
So
I
just
wanted
to
mention
it
to
you
guys,
answer
any
questions
and
see
if
you
guys
had
any
input.
You
know.
I
think
that
I
think
that
it.
The
pros
of
this
are
that
it
would
ultimately
will
be
connecting
to
the
college
patent
bike
lanes
and
it
will
be
connecting
to
the
existing
bike
facility
on
hilliard.
M
So
we're
trying
to
make
these
connections
when
we
can-
and
you
know
one
concern
that
I
have-
is
that
there
will
be
this
facility
right
next
to
on-street
parking.
So
there
there
is
a
potential
dooring
issue
or
conflict
and
unfortunately
we
can't
really
get
much
more
than
a
six
foot
width,
but
we
felt
like
it
was
better
to
have
something
rather
than
nothing
and
there's
not
any
per
expected
issue
as
far
as
traffic,
congestion
or
or
backups,
or
any
of
that.
So
we
felt
like
this
was
a
good
connection
for
us
to
make.
M
So
you
know
the
other
thing
that
we're
not
we're
not
proposing
to
work
with
dot
on
this,
but
what
we
are
hoping
to
do
is
in
the
future,
look
more
closely
at
the
intersection
of
biltmore
and
patton
and
broadway
kind
of
at
pac
square
and
perhaps
reconfigure
some
of
the
curved
lines
either
permanently
or
or
just
in
a
in
sort
of
a
tactical
urbanism
kind
of
way,
with
with
paint
and
bollards
and
plantings.
But
take
a
look
at
the
south.
M
Let's
see,
I
guess
it's
not
really
south,
but
this
western
corner
and
perhaps
bump
it
out
to
shorten
the
crossing
distance
across
belt
more
and
have
some
additional
pedestrian
space
in
this
area,
but
that
would
be
a
future,
a
future
project
likely
in
cooperation
with
asheville
on
bikes.
M
M
If
you
had
any
questions
and-
and
if
you
I
didn't,
write
up
a
motion,
but
if
you
are
supportive
of
the
installation
of
bike
lanes
between
patton
and
hilliard
on
biltmore,
I
think
it
would
be
a
helpful.
A
helpful
thing
for
us
to
be
able
to
pass
along
to
d.o.t.
A
Great,
thank
you.
That's
like
a
randy,
you
have
a
question.
B
Yeah
surprisingly,
I
know
that
bristol
thanks
so
much
for
thinking
about
this
and
and
putting
it
in,
because
I
fully
agree
that
we
need
to
put
bike
lanes
every
possible
place
that
we
can.
That
will
work
from
a
safety
standpoint
and
yeah.
I
mean
right
now
that
one
lane
doesn't
even
operate
as
a
lane
as
it
is
so
having
a
bike
plane.
I
don't
think
it
will
affect
traffic
too
much
there
at
all.
You
said
that,
so
I
I'm
fully
endorsing
this.
I
think
we
should
be
against
like
things
everybody
possibly
can.
B
He
said
that
eot
was
repaving
all
of
25,
I'm
wondering
if
that
extends
all
the
way
down
mcdowell
and
I'm
hoping
it
does,
because
in
the
biltmore
mcdonald's
study,
we
specifically
recommended
doing
a
four
to
three
conversion,
and
this
would
be
a
perfect
opportunity
to
do
that
as
well.
So
I'm
hoping
that
they'll
say
yes,
we're
going
to
repay
that
as
well,
and
we
can
get
bike
lanes
soon
running.
B
M
Thanks
for
that
randy,
I
I
think
I
misspoke
I
I
meant
to
say
that
all
of
25
down
to
south
side,
which
is
where
I
believe
it
then
turns
west
towards
and
then
goes
and
then
25
is
on
mcdowell
and
so
that
part
of
us
25
is
not
included
in
this
repaving.
M
It's
just
down
to
southside
avenue.
B
M
So
we
tried
to
well:
we
we
discussed
whether
or
not
we
could
do
bike
lanes
all
the
way
between
patent
and
south
side
and
dot
had
some
concerns
about
the
south
side,
intersection
built
more
south
side
intersection
and
they
wanted
there
to
be
a
lot
more
congestion,
analysis
level
of
service
analysis
and
we
just
were
not
able
to
to
get
there.
M
M
B
Sure
I
can,
I
guess
I
understand
so
in
the
terms
of
the
next
level
and
and
again,
I
think
we
all
agree
that
we
should
have
bike
lanes
there,
and
we
also
understand
the
barriers
that
you
usc
puts
up
to
just
throwing
them
in
there.
But
what
about
then
share
share
arrows
on
the
rest
of
it
if
you
can't
have
pipelines
as
possible
that
are
arrows
because
they're
restricting
again
this
is
this-
is
the
one.
J
F
B
Here
is
to
do
it.
So,
even
though
here
arrows
are
a
very
bare
minimalistic,
you
know
facility
that
we
could
possibly
put
in,
and
it
is
questionable
in
terms
of
the
safety
that
it
has.
It
still
shows
that
bikes
have
a
space
on
the
road
there
and
they're
allowed
to
be
in
the
lane,
and
it
is.
M
B
D
M
Yeah,
let
me
I
can
I
can
forward
this
to
you
guys
so
david
hazard
and
our
well.
He
was
formerly
in
our
planning
department.
Now
is
in
the
capital
project
department
he's
the
one
that
made
the
drawing
for
this
intersection,
and
so
we
I'd
be
happy
to
forward
this
to
you
guys,
I
meant
to
link
it
to
the
agenda.
I
just
didn't
get
the
chance
to
do
so.
A
A
You
joe.
J
I
just
want
to
tee
off
of
what
randy
commented
about
the
sharo's.
I
think
it
would
be
vitally
important
to
get
that
on
there
coming
from
south
side,
because
that's
the
climbing
hill,
I
mean
it's
great
that
we're
going
from
hillyard
up,
which
is
kind
of
barely
you
know.
You've
got
some
climb
from
say,
hilliard
up
to
like
in
front
of
the
aloft,
but
going
from
south
side.
You
know
if
we're
gonna
have
bike
lanes
in
the
downtown
part
on
biltmore.
J
We
need
to
indicate
that
hey,
you
may
see
a
bike
as
you're
climbing
up
this
part
of
biltmore
and
frankly,
if
nc
of
dot
is
repaving
all
of
25,
they
should
be
putting
sharos
from
south
side
all
the
way
to
where
the
four
to
three
conversion
starts
on
merriman.
Again,
I
don't
you
know,
as
randy
mentioned
it's
the
bare
minimum,
but
at
least
it
lets
drivers
know
and
also
than
the
bikers
like
there
is.
You
should
expect
something
other
than
just
a
car,
so
that
would
be
my
my.
D
A
Joe
kenny.
F
C
And
jessica,
I
applaud
the
city's
efforts
to
work
with
dot
on
these
things.
We
service
things
come
up
all
the
time
and
I
feel
like
it's
only
recently
that
you
all
have
started
to
say
hey.
This
is
an
opportunity
to
rethink
some
paint
and
a
little
paint.
Restriping
goes
a
long
way.
So
thank
you
for
for
doing
this.
A
All
right,
thanks,
kenny
elizabeth.
K
Yes,
several
people
actually
asked
some
of
my
questions,
but
I
had
a
couple
more
come
up
jessica.
When
is
the
approximate
date
for
this,
the
bike
lane
and
the
re
paving
of
25.
M
M
Is
my
understanding,
I
don't
know
if
we
have
any
more
specific
information
yet,
but
you
know,
obviously
this
this
project
as
a
whole
is
going
to
have
quite
the
impact
on
downtown
while
it's
happening,
so
we
are
going
to
be
working
closely
with
dot
to
get
an
understanding
of
what
their
their
phasing
and
their
traffic
management
plan
is
and
be
getting
that
that
kind
of
information
out,
as
well
just
to
all
of
the
downtown
businesses
as
well
and
everybody
really.
M
K
N
I
I
have
a
little
bit
you're
you're
generally
correct.
I
spoke
with
the
construction
project
manager
yesterday
and
he
said
right
now.
Their
plan
is
to
start
work.
N
He
estimates
around
september,
but
that
depends
on
some
other
things
happening
with
merriman
plans
and
things
like
that.
So
right
now
he
is
their
contract
that
the
contractor
that's
working
on
us.
25
is
finishing
up
down
in
the
biltmore
village
area
and
they're
going
to
relocate
to
I-40
and
when,
when
the
plans
are
ready,
they
would
then
hop
to
the
parts
from
south
side
northward
and
the
plan
is
for
night
time.
Work.
M
Okay,
thank
you,
chris,
and
so
let
cheryl's
see
a
second
cheryl's
is
basically
the
the
painted
symbol
that
you
sometimes
see
on
asphalt,
where
it's
meant
to
say
that
vehicles
and
bicycles
are
to
share
the
lane.
So
when
there's
not
a
dedicated
separated
bike
facility,
oftentimes
you'll
see
sharrows
in
the
road
as
as
a
advisory
to
vehicles
that
they
need
to
be
sharing
the
road
with
bicycles.
M
H
M
So
they
will
load
and
unload
in
the
bike
lane.
Well,
they
will
pull
into
the
bike
lane
because
they
do
have
to
get
to
the
curb,
and
so
they
will
temporarily
block
that
bike
lane,
while
they're
loading
and
unloading
passengers
generally
doesn't
really
have
a
huge
disruption
on
traffic
and
in
fact
you
know
sometimes
you'll
see
like
turnouts
created
or
pull
outs
created
for
buses,
but
most
transit
agencies
are
getting
away
from
that
because
it
closed
down
service.
M
M
Well,
I
think
where
our
bus
stops
are
along
this
stretch,
if
I
recall
correctly,
they
are
at
the
curb
there's
one
in
front
of
the
locked
hotel
and
there's
no
parking
at
that
particular
spot,
and
so,
wherever
there's
a
wherever
there's
a
bus,
stop
there's
no
parking
in
front
of
that
shop,
and
so
they
are
able
to
get
to
the
curb
yeah.
M
Yeah,
actually,
you
can
see
on
this
picture
the
sort
of
far
right
side,
middle
there's,
a
planting
strip
area,
and
then
you
can
see
the
sort
of
the
shadow
of
the
bus
stop
with
a
bus,
shelter
there
in
front
of
the
aloft.
M
M
H
M
N
A
Right
other
comments
or
questions,
I
got
one
quick
one
jessica,
so
I
was
you
know.
One
of
the
comments
that's
brought
up
is
you
know,
extending
down
to
charlotte
south
street
street
the
I
think
the
volume
that's
going
up
and
down
those
four
lanes
would
allow
that.
A
So
I
think
the
sheryl's
are
a
good
step
and
I
wonder,
if
is
there
any
way
that
so
the
section
that
we're
talking
about
is
there
any
way
where
we
can
move
the
bike
lane
next
to
the
sidewalk
and
put
the
parking
like
kind
of
how
we
did
on
cox,
avenue.
M
The
short
answer
is
no,
because
we
have
these
concrete,
bump
outs
in
certain
locations,
and
so
we
can't
and
we've
got
another
one
over
here
at
eagle
street,
so
so
generally.
No,
if
we
were
to
ever
do
a
straight
reconstruction,
then
that
might
be
an
alternative
that
we
looked
at
even
a
two-way
cycle
track
would
be
maybe
an
ideal
future
project
if
there's
ever
a
reconstruction
project,
but
with
this
just
being
re-striping.
A
A
Thank
you,
pat
any
other
comments
or
questions
discussion.
All
right,
we'll
do
a
roll
call
vote.
Randy
warren,
hi,
kenny,
armstrong.
C
A
C
F
D
I
I
A
And
I'm
as
well
motion
carry.
Thank
you.
The
next
item
is
the
revisions
to
the
college
patent
bike,
lane
project
design.
A
M
M
They
haven't
quite
gotten
to
updating
the
design
based
on
public
input
that
we
got,
but
basically
we're
going
to
make
a
few
minor
changes
and
I'll
just
walk
through
those
with
you
guys
and
try
to
describe
them
as
best
I
can,
and
so
what
I
have
up
here
right
now
is
that
I'm
zooming
in
on
college
street
near
the
rankin
intersection
for
the
ranking
garage
is
towards
the
top
middle,
and
our
original
design
is
to
have
the
parking
located
more
internal
to
the
street
cross
section,
the
bike
lane
being
up
against
the
curb
none
of
that's
changing.
M
What
we
heard
on
our
walking
tours
and
from
business
owners
is
that
loading
is
a
real
concern
just
in
general
in
downtown,
but
particularly
since
we're
looking
at
bringing
down
the
cross
section
to
one
through
lane,
there's
a
higher
likelihood
of
that
through
and
getting
blocked
with
people,
double
parking,
commercial
vehicles,
double
parking,
and
so
what
we
have
decided
to
try
is
to
essentially
make
all
of
these
sweater,
currently
parking
spaces
meter
parking
spaces
into
loading
zones.
M
So
this
red
hatched
area
is
where
there's
a
fire
hydrant
at
the
curb
the
yellow
hatch
areas
that
you
see
right
now
are
the
existing
loading
zones
or
well,
though,
existing
loading
zones
are
at
the
curve
too,
but
the
but
we'd
be
bumping
them
into
the
street
cross-section.
M
Once
we
talked
to
the
downtown
commission
a
couple
weeks
ago
about
this,
and
I
think
generally
they're
supportive,
I
think
parking
for
you
know,
personal
vehicles
is
still
a
concern
that
they
have.
So
there
was
a
conversation
about
whether
or
not
we
could
try
doing
like
a
time
limited
loading
between
you
know
like
up
till
11
a.m,
and
then
it
still
and
then
afterwards
be
used
for
parking
again.
M
So
that's
something
we
might
consider.
We
haven't
spoken
with
parking
services
yet
about
that.
We
did
try
to
do
something
like
that
where
we
had
partial
part
of
the
day
and
the
morning
was
floating
and
then
the
rest
of
it
was
parking
meter.
We
did
that
on
haywood
street
after
the
reconstruction
kind
of
had
mixed
results
and
mixed
feedback
from
the
business
owners
on
that,
but
this
could
be
another
opportunity
to
test
it.
M
D
M
G
J
I
think
this
is
great
the
eliminating
parking
spaces.
I
see
no
problem
with
that
whatsoever.
I
mean
there's
parking
deck
right
across
the
street.
I
have
always
found
parking.
J
J
The
question
I
would
have,
or
the
comment
that
I
would
make
that
seems
like
something
that
we
should
be
doing,
whether
or
not
you
we
want
to
look
at
doing
the
timed
loading
or
not
yeah.
F
J
The
evening
you're,
probably
like
on
a
friday
at
six
o'clock,
you're,
probably
not
going
to
have
any
loading,
but
even
then
I
still
think
it
would
be
at
that
point.
The
rest
of
them
just
revert
to
accessible
parking
spaces
like
I
don't
know
that
we
should
make
them
general
parking
spaces,
but
otherwise
I
think
this
is
a
great.
J
D
B
M
B
I'm
I
I
go
but
those
things,
and
I
think
that
the
car
parking
spaces
there
are
not
necessary,
except
that
if
there
is
no
loading
or
unloading
going
on
and
no
parking
there,
I
could
see
that
lane
being
used
as
a
traffic
light,
and
so
it
may
be
advantageous
to
have
one
spot
remain
moving
and
maybe
successful.
You
know
the
spot
is
parking
just
so
that
people
see
that
open
space
and
looks
like
a
travel
lane.
B
People,
you
know,
as
we
know,
will
use
space
as
they
see
it's
available,
so
that
would
then
create
more
traffic
next
to
the
next
the
bike
lane
there.
So
it
seems
like
to
me
there's
an
advantage
to
having
that
that
buffer
there,
and
so
I
guess
I
think
I
actually
think
that
accessible
parking,
at
least
for
one
spot.
It's
really
a
good
idea
for
that,
because
then
that
would
prevent.
L
J
A
loading
zone
that
it's
not
that
there
is
some
kind
of
pavement
marking
that
that
says
this
is.
M
That's
the
plan,
yes
and
you
know
if
we,
if
we
have
parking
or
loading
we,
this
would
be
a
place
where
we
wouldn't
have
vertical
delineator.
We
could.
I
do
believe
that
we're
planning
on
putting
in
some
armadillos
in
this
location,
because
people
can
kind
of
roll
over
those,
but
but
yeah.
We
would
the
expectation
that
that
or
what
we
plan
to
implement
is
that
there
would
be
pavement
markings
to
show
that
these
are
loading
zones
fire
zone.
M
J
J
F
H
H
Yeah,
it's
just
it
seems,
like
I
just
had
a
crazy
thought,
is
that
you're
opening
up
space
here
jessica
right,
essentially
what
you're
doing
right?
H
Why
wouldn't
we
want
to
design
it
as
more
of
a
walking
space?
No,
that
section
of
the
street
is
tight
if
you're
a
walker.
It's
almost
like
you,
don't
want
to
be
there,
because
it's
so
tight.
If
we're
opening
up
space,
why
wouldn't
we
want
to
make
it
more
of
a
dedicated
walk
space,
as
opposed
to
trying
to
put
something
else
in
there.
M
That's
a
good
question.
I
don't
know
well,
first,
first
of
all
we're
not
moving
the
curb
we're
not
making
the
sidewalk
itself
any
bigger.
I
wish
we
could.
I
wish
we
had
the
funding
for
that
kind
of
project,
so
this
bike
facility.
M
H
M
Yeah,
I
you
know
it
it's
kind
of
it's
kind
of
like
our
previous
item,
where
we
talked
about
the
curves
and
and
stuff,
and
if
I,
if
I
had
a
lot
more
money,
I
think
we'd
be
looking
at
a
different
overall
different
design
here,
and
you
know
right
now
we're
just
trying
to
spend
100
grand
and
get
some
bike
lanes
and
but
trying
to
think
through
what
what
a
multi-use
sort
of
path
would
look
like,
and
I
I'm
not
sure
have
to
think
about
that.
M
Left
shield's
always
good.
So
let
me
go
real
quick
to
the
patent
side
and
let
you
know
about
the
change
here,
which
I
think
you
guys
will
probably
like
so
so.
This
is
patton,
basically
between
haywood,
which
is
on
the
far
left
and
then
church
street
towards
the
bottom
and
then
lexington
is
off
to
the
right.
You
can't
quite
see
that
in
this
photo
or
in
this
diagram,
but
here
you
can
see
that
we
have
original
in
the
original
design.
M
M
Ideally,
we
wanted
to
have
the
bike
lane
be
up
against
the
curb,
just
as
we
have
it
designed
for
college,
but
initially
there
we
were
thinking
that
there's
the
lobster
trap
parklet
there
and
that
you
know
to
try
to
accommodate
that.
We
could
just
have
the
bike
lane
swing
out
and
around,
and
we
had
some
conversations
with
the
lobster
trap:
they're,
okay,
with
taking
down
their
parklet
in
fact
they're
only
using
it
on
the
weekends.
M
They
also
were
very
interested
in
having
additional
loading.
So
we
have
talked
about
making
these
parking
spaces
into
loading
zones
and
have
at
least
one
ada
accessible
parking
space
as
well.
So
that's
what
we
plan
to
have
in
the
in
the
re,
the
redesign.
G
Peggy,
this
is
awesome.
I've
seen
these
updates.
I
was
able
to
do
both
the
walkthroughs
with
the
businesses,
and
this
is
just
really
responsive
and
thoughtful,
and
I
love
yeah
just
the
flexibility
so
on
this
one.
What
tricky
stretch
if
the
bike
lane
is
against
the
curve?
G
What
happens
on
the
next
block
when
it
is
essentially
close
to
the
turning
light?
Great
okay.
G
M
Yeah
and
you're
gonna
have
to
forgive
me
because
I
I
cannot
remember
for
the
life
of
me.
What
we
decided
was
what
we
decided
with
tpb
on
whether
or
not
it
would
come
back
out
into
the
middle
between
the
turn
lane
and
the
throwing
or
if
we
were
just
going
to
keep
it
up
against
the
curb
and
make.
M
I
you
know,
I
really
apologize,
I
cannot
remember,
let
me
I
will
follow
up
with
them
and
and
I
can
email
you
guys
the
answer
to
that
question.
A
Will
you
do
that
just
go
ready?
Did
you
ever
come
in.
B
Well,
yeah,
I
just
said
it's
completely
normal
to
have
bikes
move
to
the
right
of
a
left-turn
lane,
so
that
would
be
consistent
with
other
spots
throughout
the
city
throughout
the
country.
So
to
have
the
bike
lane
stay
to
the
left
of
the
left.
Turn
lane
generally
presents
more
of
a
hazard
or
cars
turning
in
front
of
them,
so
it
would
be
consistent
to
have
even
a
curb
lane
bike
lane
move
to
the
right
of
the
left,
turn
lane
and
then
speed
straight
through
the
intersection.
B
B
G
Okay,
I
I'd
retract
my
inclination.
B
Yeah
and
then
we
also
decide
as
a
city
practice
where
we
put
green
paint.
So
we
have
green
paint
in
the
bike
boxes,
which
makes
sense,
but
sometimes
cities
will
decide
if
they'll
put
green
in
the
conflict
areas
where
a
lane
of
traffic
would
pass
over
through
a
bike
lane.
So
if
we
decide
to
do
that,
then
we
would
have
green
paint
in
that
spot.
G
Because
I'm
going
on
an
assumption-
and
maybe
this
is
a
bad
assumption
but
like
we're
gonna
get
a
lot
of
tourists
on
these
bike
lanes
compared
to
others
and
again
maybe
that's
an
assumption
but
like
someone
who,
like
rents,
a
bike
and
stays
at
a
hotel
and
just
like
making
it
as
intuitive
or
consistent
as
possible
for
safe
purposes.
So
I
don't
really
know
the
way.
F
G
G
The
big
hotel
had
some
loading
dock
loading
space
issues,
basically
one
block
north
from
where
we're
looking
now.
So
I
don't
know
if
I'm
jumping
the
gun,
but
I'd
love
any
updates
on
that.
D
M
I
would
say
that
this
is
the
one
location
where
we
unfortunately
can't
address
the
heiress's
concern
with
without
completely
changing
the
design.
So
the
air,
this
this
aerial-
doesn't
show
the
completed
eric
project.
But
this
big
block
here
is
is
the
heiress
and
so
their
primary
loading
is
occurring
on.
I
don't
know
if
you
can
see
my
cursor,
but
it's
basically
on
the
south
side
of
college.
M
Closer
to
the
lexington
intersection
is
where
the
existing
loading
zone
is.
The
bike
lane
here,
obviously
is
on
the
left
side
of
the
road,
which
is
where
their
loading
zone
is.
M
M
They
obviously
raise
significant
concerns
with
the
removal
of
that
our
design
did
and
still
does
have
a
loading
zone
being
added
to
the
north
side,
so
essentially
moving
it
from
the
south
side
of
college
to
the
north
side
of
college,
and
that
is
not
something
that
they
are
happy
with.
However,
you
know
loading
zones
are
are
not
like.
I
said
they're
not
dedicated
to
any
one
particular
business
or
property,
and
so
you
know
that's
one
thing
that
we
unfortunately
are
not
able
to
remedy
to
their
liking.
M
So
it's
gonna,
be
it's
gonna,
be
something
that
they're
gonna
have
to
adjust
to.
I
you
know
I.
I
will
say
that
you
know
they
do
have
their
their
own
kind
of
loading
zone
on
the
on
the
front
side
of
their
building,
although
obviously
they
don't
want
to
bring
in
things
shortening
their
front
door,
but
they
also
have
the
ability
to
use
their
access
off
of
patent
that
comes
up
to
the
top
of
their
garage
structure
and
to
their
back
door.
A
Yeah
jessica,
to
that
point
I
feel
like
they've
done
a
pretty
good
job
of
kind
of
balancing
between
their
post-construction
construction
parking
that
they've
had
and
then
that
loadings
film,
that's
active
all
the
time.
So
there's
usually
in
my
experience
in
the
last
three
years
or
so
there's
been
multiple
construction
vehicles
in
that
little
stretch
there,
as
well
as
their
loading
happening.
So
I
feel
like
it's
they're,
already
kind
of
using
that
space
twice
as
it
is.
So
it
seems,
like
you
know,.
M
However,
in
order
to
do
so,
what
would
be
doing
is
you're
moving
the
there's
existing
left-hand
turn
lane
from
lexington
going
northbound
turning
westbound
onto
college
street
and
the
the
block
here
is
so
short.
There's
a
lot
of
turning
movements
at
this
intersection
going
northbound
to
westbound
and
we
felt
like
there
was.
There
was
likely
to
cause
a
lot
of
backups
if
we
removed
that
that
left
hand
turn
lane
and
in
conversations
with
bachelorette
bikes,
they
felt
like
that.
M
The
bike
lane
in
this
uphill
direction
was
not
the
priority
needs
here,
as
looking
at
this
project
as
a
whole.
So
our
proposal
is
to
remove
this
and
just
leave
it,
as
is
on
lexington.
A
B
F
B
A
bite
laying
the
rest
away
that
way
with
continual
visually
the
markings
through,
like
you,
said
the
north
and
south
of
this
block
is
bike
lane,
so
it
would
provide
just
a
visual
cue
that
does
continue
and
we
have
tear
arrows
right
on
the
on
the
northbound
side
of
that
too.
So
I
think
that
that
way,
then
we're
actually
taking
our
bike
network
connection
on
the
street
where
otherwise
we're
cropping
and
it
seems
like
me,
we
want
to
have
as
many
connections
as
possible.
So
it's
not
ideal,
but
it's
better
than
having
us.
F
A
M
Yeah,
I
think
I
think
that
that
was
that
would
be
okay,
trying
to
think
about
timing,
so
your
next
meeting
would
be
in
late
july
and
we
can't
put
a
bid
document
out
until
after
july,
1
anyways.
So
I
think
that
we
can.
I
think
we
can
do
that.
Obviously
we
want
to
get
a
bid
document
out
as
quickly
as
possible,
but
we
haven't
even
received
the
refined
design
yet
so
my
guess
is
that
that
would
be
fine
from
a
timing
perspective.
A
Okay,
great,
I
think,
there's
you
know
obviously
a
lot
of
a
few
open
ends,
but
overall,
I
think
it
looks
fantastic
and
it's
really
amazing
how
quickly
this
has
come
together.
So
it's
it's
very
exciting
to
be
connecting
these
these
spaces
all
right.
So
the
next
item
is
the
recommended
speed
limit
chains.
Chris.
N
Good
afternoon
everyone
I'm
chris
cairns
with
traffic
engineering
at
the
city
of
asheville,
and
I
just
wanted
to
share
some
speed
limit
changes.
We
haven't
done
any
since
I
think
august
of
2020,
so
we
have
some
that
we
are
preparing
for
recommendation
to
the
council
in
july.
So
I
wanted
to
share
those
with
the
group.
They
I
have
a
map.
Let
me
share
that.
N
It's
going
to
start
out
big,
just
showing
you
the
overall,
where
we're
talking
there's
just
there
are
five
changes
recommended
right
now.
One
of
those
is
a
state
road,
but
let
me
go
one
by
one.
I
just
kind
of
have
them
and
these
all
have
come
from
either
request
for
traffic
calming
operational
concerns
or
something
similar,
so
I'll
go
through
those
very
quickly
gay
street.
N
This
goes
next
to
the
montford
center.
There
is
no
speed
limit
today.
It's
a
one-way
street
with
a
lot
of
activity
there,
including
people,
walking
up
the
hill.
You
know
as
part
of
the
recreational
activities.
So
we
look
at
this
and
believe
that
15
miles
per
hour
is
appropriate
for
this
type
of
facility
and
I'll
just
go
through
these,
and
you
know
feel
free
to
stop
me
or
I'll
just
go
through
and
we
can
talk
about
them
one
by
one,
if
needed,
beverly
road.
B
N
By
default,
that's
correct,
thank
you
for
clarifying
that.
I
should
have
mentioned
that
yes,
and
that
is
that
is
in
the
pop-up,
that's
kind
of
small
for
y'all
to
see
but
beverly
road.
N
This
is
something
where
we
did
have
a
request
for
traffic
calming
and
even
though
it
qualifies
for
that,
the
road
is
too
steep
to
to
put
any
kind
of
speed
vertical
speed
deflection
in
so
what
we
did
was
actually
focus
in
the
area
between
avon
road
and
new
hall,
creek
road,
where
there's
a
lot
of
activity
with
the
commercial
and
the
recreational
things
and
people
park
and
we'll
walk
in
the
road
or
walk
across
the
road.
N
So
what
we're
doing
here
is
recommending
a
drop
from
30
miles
per
hour
to
25
miles
per
hour,
with
some
increased
pedestrian
warning
signs,
and
we
really
wanted
to
separate
the
operationally
from
the
part
to
the
south
closer
to
tunnel
road,
because
it
really
does
change
the
nature
in
this
area
and
again
that
was
going
to
25
miles
per
hour,
moody
avenue
on
in
western
part
of
the
city,
that's
another
one
where
we're
recommending
25
miles
per
hour.
It
is
currently
posted
30
miles
per
hour.
N
B
That
sorry
and
then
when
they
were
on
the
speed
humps
are
those
assigned
to
say
you
know,
speed,
hum
20
miles
an
hour
or
anything
like
that.
Currently
there.
N
Yes,
there
are
yes,
there
are
randy
there
are,
there
are
advisory
signs
in
each
direction
and
we
may
update
those
to
even
go
down
to
20
for
the
advisory,
but
have
the
regulatory
speed
at
25
miles
per
hour
and
norwood
avenue.
This
one
has
been
around
a
while
a
request
came
after
seeing
some
changes
in
that
were
made
back
in
2020.
N
Now
we
looked
at
it
more
closely
and
it
is
not
codified.
So,
as
randy
mentioned
earlier,
that
means
that
there's
the
default
speed
limit
is
35
miles
per
hour,
which
is
totally
against
the
nature
of
this
road.
So
we
are
recommending
25
miles
per
hour,
more
in
tune
with
the
residential
nature
of
norwood,
and
that
goes
between
murdoch
and
farwood,
and
the
last
one
d.o.t
actually
recommended.
N
N
N
So
I
I
just
I
wanted
to
share
this
with
you
and
if
you
have
any
questions,
I'd
be
glad
to
answer
and
take
any
feedback.
B
Thanks
so
much
chris
thanks
for
also
bringing
these,
I
know
that
I
don't
know
if
we
recommended
the
speed
limiting
to
come
to
multiple
and
I'm
not
sure
if
that
was
ever
modified
or
not,
but
I
really
appreciate
you
taking
the
initiative
to
the
initialist
anyway
that
last
one
there
two
on
two.
You
know
it's
20
miles
an
hour
once
you
get
to
the
lower
village
too,
so
the
45
to
the
to
the
20
miles
per
hour,
the
free
of
the
truck
came.
B
I
ride
that
road
fairly
frequently
because
I
think
caribou
you
know
off
that
too.
So
it
is
unnerving
to
have
45
mile
an
hour,
speed
limit
there
and
cars
feel
like
they
really
want
to
go
really
fast
there,
and
even
though,
that's
being
that's,
been
repaved
there
and
the
rest
of
it's
being
received
in
the
village.
That's
only
going
to
encourage
it's
much
safer
for
cyclists
now
because
it
was
dangerous
road
conditions
to
ride
on,
but
also
then
it
encourages
cars
to
go
faster
because
they
feel
faster
too.
So
dropping
the
speed
there.
N
B
Yeah,
that's
great,
I
mean,
I
think
that,
in
terms
of
the
bigger
picture
in
that
road
too,
we
need
to
figure
out.
I
mean
because
eventually
sweden
creek's
going
to
have
in
this
ncc
project.
You
know
who
knows
what's
gonna
happen.
Right
now
looks
like
a
multi-use
facility
further
to
the
south,
and
so
that
is
a
bike
way
and
goes
in
into
town,
and
so
this
at
least
a
step
in
calming
that
down
a
little
bit
to
create
at
least
the
beginnings
of
what
could
be
a
bike
network.
That's
safer
that
area.
B
F
B
B
K
Elizabeth
yeah
just
to
follow
up
on
that
chris.
I
know
you're
telling
us
what's
already
in
the
works,
but
with
randy's
comment,
as
the
dot
is
redoing,
adding
the
greenway
and
totally
redoing
81
just
wanted
a
river
road.
I
imagine
that
this
y'all
will
be
lowering
this
speed
limit
there
too,
since
we'll
have
more
bikes
and
that
whole
area
is
going
to
be
changed
according
to
the
gap
plan.
N
Well,
we
will
have
to
work
with
d.o.t
on
that,
yes
and
d.o.t,
I'm
still
learning
how
they
do
it,
but
it
they
have
to
have
a
local
recommendation
and
it
goes
through
their
central
office
in
raleigh.
So-
and
I
will-
I
will
definitely
have
this
on
the
list
to
discuss,
because
I
I've
driven
it
myself
and
it's
like
how
are
you
driving
45
through
these
curves
but
yeah.
K
A
Is
chris
some
people
I
kind
of
talked
about
you
know
additional
streets
and
I
know
bill
you
had
talked
kind
of
offline
about
a
street.
I
don't
know
if
there's
we
could
bring
it
up
here
to
kind
of
introduce
it
and
you
know
see
if
it
makes
sense
to
fit
it
into
this
or
some
point
in
the
future.
H
I'd
like
to
because
that
was
the
request
from
the
aesthetics
committee
since
we're
talking
about
street
speed
limits.
You
want
me
to
go
ahead
and
share.
H
Well,
this
is
definitely
future.
It's
been
brought
to
our
attention
by
the
26
aesthetics
committee
that
they
are
intend
to
go
to
council
and
recommend
that
the
speed
limit
on
patent
between
westgate
and
eastward,
where
that
big
vision
is
that
they've
been
working
on
for
30
years,
that
they're
going
to
recommend
that
that
speed
limit
plan,
speed
limit
be
reduced
to
25
and
they
want
to
pass
that
to
council.
H
The
request
to
us
is
multimodal
they
like
us
to
also
agree
with
that
suggestion
and
the
reason
we
they
want
it
is
that
their
their
fear
is
that
if
the
speed
limit
is
not
lower
on
that
critical
section,
that's
kind
of
the
big
vision
for
the
city
for
many
years,
then
it
it
jeopardizes
the
design
of
that
process.
So
so
we've
been
asked
just
to
do.
We
agree
with
that
point
of
view,
and
if
we
do,
they
they'd
like
to
know
that.
A
So,
as
I
understand
it,
it's
we're
talking
about
the
transition
of
maybe
the
boat
commander
voting
bridge
and
as
it
comes
in
so
now
it's
it's
carrying
a
bunch
of
weight
and
a
lot
of
volume
and
as
we
transition
that's
more
of
a
local
street
the
design
and
how
that
street
will
look
and
how
it's
set
up
that
we're
going
to
be
using
for
the
next
50
years
will
be
defined.
Based
on
that
speed
limit,
because
if
it's
too
high,
then
it's
going
to
be.
A
We
have
to
allow,
for
you,
know
wider
lanes
and
that
kind
of
thing.
But
if
we
slow
it
down,
then
we
can
have
a
more
neighborhood
friendly,
pedestrian
and
bike
friendly
design
going
through
that
section.
H
M
Sure
sure
so
that
concern
has
also
been
raised,
dod
from
staff,
and
we
recently
were
awarded
a
some
grant
funding
from
the
mpo
to
do.
I
guess
what
I'll
call
some
analysis
and.
M
Looking
at
potential,
I
don't
want
to,
I
don't
know
if
redesign
is
the
right
word,
but
to
try
to
address
that
concern
d.o.t
and
I
don't
want
to
put
words
in
their
mouth,
but
I
think
their
opinion
is
that
this
whole
thing
has
already
been
designed
and
we
don't
agree
with
the
design
and
the
design
speed
of
this
section
of
patents.
M
So
this
grant
activity
is,
is
the
goal
of
it
is
to
try
to
help
address
that
timing,
wise?
I
think
the
timing
is
pretty
tight
and
so
we're
having
a
kickoff
meeting
internally
with
staff
multi-departments
to
talk
about
this
grant
project
and
and
what
we
hope
to
accomplish.
M
I
think
in
a
couple
weeks,
so
I
you
know,
I
think,
if
the
multimodal
commission
wants
to,
we
could
probably
it
probably
would
be
more
appropriate
to
talk
about
it
and
have
some
you
know,
have
some
graphics
and
things
to
show
you
perhaps
at
our
next
meeting,
and
so
so
we
can
have
a
more
full,
fully
sledged
out
discussion.
I
can
also
bring
the
scope
of
work
for
that
grant
to
you
guys,
so
you
can
see
what
it
is
that
we
were
that
were
hoping
to
accomplish
through
that
project.
A
But
jessica:
do
you
think
it'll
be
enough
time?
Would
we
is
that
going
to
slow
us
down
too
much?
Do
you
think?
It's
still,
I
know
it's
already
compressed,
so
I'm
just
worried
that
we're
putting
too
much
pressure
on
you
know
that
short
amount
of
time,
but
you
think
if
something
came
to
us
next
month,
we
could
then
approve
it
and
still
kind
of
keep
the
ball
rolling.
So
we
don't
lose
the
opportunity
to
affect
that
design.
That's
happening.
M
Oh
no,
not
at
all
I
mean
we
haven't
even
started
the
grant
project
yet
and
and
from
dot's
perspective
they
already
designed
it.
What
we're
trying
to
do
is
get
them
to
change
it,
and
so
the
grant
project
was
it
was
we
applied
for
the
grant
through
the
mpo,
and
we
had
multiple
conversations
with
dot
headquarters
about
it,
because
we
communicated
to
them
that
we
do
not
like
the
current
design
and
do
not
like
the
current
design
speed.
M
They
agreed
that
we
could
move
forward
with
this
grant
project,
to
do
additional
analysis
and
and
and
look
at
the
design
more
closely,
including
the
intersections.
That
will
be
a
new
intersections
that
will
intersect
with
the
new
patent
avenue.
So
they
know
that
we're
doing
this
project
and
they
know
that
we
have
significant
concerns
about
it.
M
H
Yeah,
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I'm
communicating
this
right.
We
this
I'm
not
trying
to
communicate
what
a
design
should
look
like
what
what
they
want
us
to
consider
is.
Do
we
want
to
specify
that
the
speed
limit
on
that
road
should
be
no
more
than
25
miles
an
hour
and
here's
why
they
want
to
do
that?
H
Because
if
we,
if
the
city
agrees
that
to
be
true,
then
that
forces
them
to
open
up
their
design
or
probably
even
change
their
design,
because
if
it's
35,
they
have
requirements
that
they
have
to
meet
that
we're
not
going
to
like
from
a
design
perspective.
But
if
we
say
first
that
that
the
speed
limit
on
that
road
should
be
no
great
or
that
street
should
be
no
greater
than
25,
then
that
forces
them
to
make
design
changes
along
the
lines
that
you're
suggesting
jessica.
H
M
Yes,
that
makes
sense
to
me.
I
I
just
don't
know
if
we
have
to
do
that
today
or
if
we
can
wait
until
next
month.
H
So
I'm
willing
to
propose
that
we
agree
with
the
proposed
resolution
by
the
I-25
aesthetics
committee
to
reduce
the
speed
future
speed
on
patent
east
of
westgate
to
25
miles
per
hour.
So
I
propose
that.
F
A
A
N
C
Bill
bill,
I
think
it's
important
to
include
design
speed
in
that
motion
somewhere
to
tie
design
speed
to
the
speed
limit,
because
we
don't
want
to
over
design
road
with
a
low
speed
limit,
because
people
are
going
to
blow
past
that
speed
limit
and
then
enforcement's
cheaper.
So
that
would
be
my
only
comment
on
your
motion.
I
support
it,
but
I
I
think
there
should
be
a
line
in
there
saying
we
want
wanted
to
be
25
and
redesign
if
possible,
to
match.
H
H
G
C
I
The
actual
design
of
the
road
and
the
width
and
the
realities
of
open
space,
as
it
were,
related
to
likelihood
that
that
could
even
be
adhered
to.
I
mean
I
heard
that
in
your
in
your
initial
comment,
and
so
I,
but
I
don't
know
that
the
two,
whereas
statements
recommended
are,
are
really
fully
getting
at
that
second
part,
which
is
really
how
the
how
the
design
aligns
with
the
recommendation
around
speed.
C
You
know
curves
and
lane
widths
that
adhere
to
their
parameters,
making
it
easier
for
people
to
drive
faster
than
25
miles
per
hour,
and
thus
people
will
drive
faster
than
the
speed
limit
so
setting
a
speed
limit
lower
than
a
design
speed.
Sometimes
you
know
leads
to
beating
and
doesn't
really
address
the
issue.
Design
speed
is
more
important
than
speed
limit,
sometimes
because
it's
all
subconscious,
you
know
if
the
road
is
designed
for
slow
speeds.
A
Okay,
I
think
any.
A
Okay,
so.
A
And
a
second
without
any
of
the
discussion,
then
we
will
do
a
roll
call
vote
and
list
so
randy
warren.
B
D
A
D
L
A
Hi
and
I
as
well
okay,
that
motion
carries
so
that's
we
have
that
motion
for
the
transition.
Let's
go
back
to
the
discussion
that
we
were
having
so
chris
has
completed
those
his
presentation.
Can
I
get
a
motion
to
approve
the
recommended
speed
limit
changes.
D
I'll
make
a
motion
to
make
the
speed
limit
changes
as
heard
chris's
presentation
today.
That's.
A
Thank
you.
Okay.
Now
do
we
have
any
other
additional
comments
or
questions
concerning
our
discussion
concerning
the
speed
limit
changes
all
right
without
discussion,
we'll
go
to
a
vote
on
that
item.
Randy
warren,
hi,
kenny,
armstrong,.
C
D
A
A
A
Thank
you.
Okay.
The
next
item.
We
have
some
unfinished
business
items
jessica.
Do
you
want
to
go
through
them,
just
as
as
you
have
information
for
us.
M
M
M
That
would
the
purpose
of
which
would
be
to
get
a
ballot
measure
on
the
ballot
in
2024
for
a
transit
quarter.
Cent
sales
check.
M
So
it's
something
that
we
talked
with
the
transit
committee
at
their
last
meeting
about
and
basically
you
know,
our
major
need
for
transit
is
to
find
new
and
sustainable
funding
sources
that
are
not
the
city's
general
fund
and
so
the
best
hope
of
doing
that,
in
my
opinion,
is
to
obtain
the
quarter
cent
sales
tax,
and
I
think,
in
order
to
do
that,
we
need
to
work
with
the
county
to
look
at
what
a
quarter
cent
sales
tax
would
do.
What
kind
of
services
and
facilities
in
particular
are
necessary
to
achieve
that.
M
A
Excellent
randy:
do
you
have
a
comment.
B
Yeah
so
on.
Thank
you
so
much
on
the
item
that
says
bike
share,
study
update
with
key
scooters
issues
removed.
I
know
that
we
have
a
staff
person
doing
just
five
hours
a
week
on
that,
but
I
know
there
was
a
draft
of
that
plan.
Before
we
added
in
scooters,
it
seems
like
if
we
could
go
back
to
that
draft.
J
B
M
B
Almost
100
percent
it
was
it
was
it
was.
We
were
ready
to
vote
on
it
and
then
the
scooter
don't
happen.
So
if
my
memory
is
correct,
it's
like,
I
think
100
it
was,
and
it
was
it
has
these
footers.
So
I
didn't
see
like
that.
D
A
Okay
and
then
circling
back
to
the
regional
transit
funding,
there's
been
a
couple
of
discussions
offline
with
different
folks
bill.
Does
that
make
sense?
Is
that,
in
line
with
the
item
that
you
were
talking
about,
that
you
would
like
to
add
to
our
agenda?
Do
you
feel
like
it's
encompassed
into
what
jessica's
addressing
here.
M
Yeah
I
I
typically
want
to
be
able
to
have
a
conversation
with
the
city
manager,
about
such
things
and
before
somebody
makes
a
motion.
So
that's
that's
all
my
request
is
related
to
is
give
me
an
opportunity
to
lay
out
my
thoughts
to
the
city
manager
and
and
get
some
feedback
from
her
and
then
bring
it
to
you
guys
for
your
support.
M
When
it's
a
little
bit
more
shaped.
B
B
M
I'm
sure
so,
basically,
what
I'm
putting
together
is
a
it's
a
it's
kind
of
a
long
memo,
but
what
I'm
trying
to
do
is
lay
out
the
issues,
the
major
issues
that
we
have
with
transit-
and
you
know-
and
not
not
just
focusing
on
the
issues
of
today,
which
are
include
things
like
staffing
shortages,
but
looking
to
what
we
need
to
do
for
the
future.
M
In
order
to
be
able
to
not
only
sustain
the
system,
we
have
but
grow
the
system,
because,
right
now,
the
city,
the
city
is
providing
the
I'll
say
over
50
of
the
funding
for
the
transit
system
out
of
the
general
fund,
which
is
not
a
sustainable
source
forever.
We
can't
afford
to
keep
upping
the
amount
of
general
fund
support
without
significant
other
funding,
and
so
not
only
is
this
a
problem
for
operations,
but
our
facilities
are
in
desperate
need.
We
have
a
garage
that
is
50
years
old.
M
We
can't
even
fit
more
vehicles
at
the
garage,
so
you
know
our
the
more
we
want
to
expand
our
transit
system
from
a
operational
standpoint.
We
also
have
to
think
of
the
back
of
house
functions
and
how
that
needs
to
be
there
as
well
to
support
the
system,
and
we
don't
have
funding
for
a
new
garage.
We
don't
have
funding
for
buying
a
piece
of
property
for
a
new
garage.
M
We
also
have
a
transit
downtown
transit
center
that,
although
it
was
newly
renovated,
it's
still
on
a
very
tiny
piece
of
property
and
has
you
know
insufficient
facilities
for
the
level
of
ridership.
M
We
have
and
we
were
able
to
secure
the
property
to
the
south
in
order
to
do
a
future
expansion,
but
we
don't
have
funding
for
that
expansion,
so
it
all
kind
of
comes
back
down
to
funding,
and
we
also
have,
I
think,
a
lot
of
desire
from
a
regional
perspective
to
expand
transit
services
into
the
county
or
some
type
of
transportation,
services
and
so
from.
For
me,
I
think
the
clear
next
steps
are
that
we
need
to
work
with
the
county
and
we
need
to
find
more
funding.
M
H
I
don't
know
the
numbers
you
might,
but
my
guess
is
it's
pretty
flat
or
it's
gone
down,
because
our
service
hasn't
really
changed
since
we
implemented
sunday
service
several
years
ago,
so
there
there's
there's
bound
to
be
a
relationship
to
how
much
we're
actually
funding
transit.
So
the
essence
of
your
message
is
around
funding
right,
and
so
there
might
be.
F
M
Well,
I
mean
just
real
quick
though
the
the
city's
support
of
transit
funding
has
gone
up
by
more
than
four
times
since
2016.,
so
in
2016
they
were
spending.
The
city
general
fund
was
contributing
about
1.8
million
dollars,
and
this
year
it's
6.9
million
dollars.
So
and
we
did
do
a
significant
service
increase
in
2020.
F
M
Yeah
it's
about
it's
about
13
million
or
so
this
year,
and
so
about
seven
million
of
that
is
from
the
city
and
then
there's
some
that
comes
from
the
city
general
fund.
Then
there's
also
money
that
comes
from
parking
and
and
about
1.6
million
dollars.
Okay
and
then
there's
federal
funds,
state
funds.
G
Yeah,
I
guess
the
first
thought
is
just
I
appreciate
your
videos.
We
do
need
substantial
resources
to
build
the
walkable
community,
we
need
and
the
community
that
isn't
reliant
on
automobiles
with
all
their
carbon
emissions,
etc.
So
the
big
picture,
long
term,
I
love-
I
guess
where
I
have
questions
or
not
even
questions-
is
like
there's
a
couple
really
big
massive
things
lumped
together
and
I
wonder
about
the
staging
and
again
I
really
appreciate
the
vision
of
like
thinking
towards
a
2024
ballot.
J
G
And
what
we
need
to
do
to
get
there,
but
it
sounds
like
that
that
chunk
of
working
towards
conversation
with
the
county
and
the
county
hasn't
really
even
started
to
do
transportation
planning
and
I'm
basically
just
like
repeating
all
the
things
you're
saying.
But
it
makes
me
wonder
like
how
what
type
of
support
will
this
need
over
time,
because
it
might
need
to
be
bitten
into
chunks
that
are
like
their
own,
pretty
substantial
efforts
to
move
forward
and
get
support
for,
and
I
think
we
should.
M
Yeah,
I
think
you're
right
maggie.
I
think
that,
well,
the
support
that's
going
to
be
needed
is
going
to
be
needed
from
multiple
angles
and
and
not
just
not
just
not
just
transit
advocates
or
transportation
advocates,
but
healthcare
advocates
food
access,
yeah,
climate
access
or
climate
activists
and
food
access.
But
like
it's
a
it's
such
a
broad,
based
kind
of
support
that
will
be
needed,
and
I
think
I
think
that
the
county's
been
having
their
ear
bent
about
transit
and
transportation
recently.
M
So
I'm
I'm
trying
right
now
to
just
sort
of
get
the
get
the
ball
going
from
conversations
into
some
kind
of
action
which
would
include
sitting
down
with
them
to
put
together
some
kind
of
scope
of
work,
maybe
having
some
joint
workshops
with
commission
and
council
to
talk
about
what
they
would
want
to
see
and
ultimately
having
a
budget
to
do
a
study
and
that
study
would
be
what
would
hopefully
get
us
to
a
ballot
measure.
They
actually
get
passed
rather
than
just
the
ballot
measure
itself.
M
So
and-
and
that
means
like
a
financial
plan
as
well
as
an
operational
plan,
how
would
how
would
this
new
money
be
spent?
How
would
this
transit
be
run?
Is
it
a
is
it
a
an
authority?
Is
a
transit
authority,
that's
separate
from
the
city
and
the
county.
Is
it
so
it's
it's
a
lie.
G
G
It
makes
me
think
of
like
looking
at
the
trust
republic,
land
feasibility
study
that
the
county
just
did
to
put
their
bond
on
the
ballot
in
november,
like
that
was
a
very
detailed
and
thorough,
extremely
technical
financial
analysis,
let
alone
any
of
the
programmatic
stuff
right
and
there's
a
lot
of
programmatic
stuff
to
line
up
too.
So
I'm
excited
that
you're
driving
this
forward.
I
think
this
is
really
exciting.
A
Well,
thanks
jessica,
we
had,
we
asked
you
for
an
elevator
pitch
and
we
put
yeah,
we
put
down
the
spot
for
about
15
minutes.
So
I
appreciate
all
the
information.
That's.
G
A
Okay,
so
we're
moving
in
there
about
halfway
through
the
fourth
quarter.
Here
we
got
something
that
we
haven't
done
in
a
while,
which
I'd
like
to
get
to,
which
is
the
committee
update,
so
we
can
kind
of
roll
through
those
I
feel
like
we
haven't
do
that
for
a
while.
So
let's
start
with
the
transit
committee
committee
folks,
if
you
could
kind
of
give
us
a
background
of,
what's
happened.
The
last
couple
of
months.
F
H
J
H
Do
to
support
you
in
finding
ways
to
get
more
money
and
so
forth,
so
we're
certainly
behind
what
jessica's
doing
now
in
terms
of
what
we
just
talked
about.
We've
had.
We've
also
had
a
lot
of
interesting
conversations
around
just
frequency
and
reliability,
and
what
what
do
we?
What
are
we
aspiring
to
the
problem
with
transit
right
now?
H
Is
we
we're
minimizing
routes
because
we
don't
have
drivers
and
so
we're
we're
woefully
poor
on
frequency
anyway,
when
you
compare
it
to
what
best
looks
like,
but
when
you
cut,
when
you
cut
service
in
half
roughly
half
is
that's
incorrect
technically,
but
basically
go
from
30
minute
intervals
to
hour
intervals,
often
during
the
day,
you're
really
hurting
some
riders
and
you're
compromising
their
lives,
and
so
that's
a
big
deal.
The
city's
working
on
trying
to
fix
it,
but
nobody's
got
any
creative
solutions
other
than
keep
working
harder.
H
E
Yeah,
I
think
that
I
mean
that's
been
the
gist
of
it.
They're
staffing
shortages
and
you
know-
we've
had
to
cut
service
so
they're
working
very
hard
to
to
get
fully
stacked.
It
looks
like
they're
working
in
that
direction.
Looking
they've
done
some
new
hires
in
their
training,
but
it
takes
some
time
to
get
people
trained
and
once
they're
trained
and
they
once
they're
hired
and
trained,
and
then
they
learn
the
routes
and
they
can.
You
know
we
can
maybe
look
at.
E
You
know
increasing
service
back
to
our
frequency
again,
but
yeah
there's
a
lot
of
challenges
for
transit
and
others.
You
know
they're
having
to
pay
people
more
to
attract
people,
so
then
it
costs
more.
So
there's
a
lot
of
issues.
It
seems
like.
I
think
that
jessica
said
that
for
2023
there's,
a
one
million
dollar
shortfall
in
the
budget
is
that
right,
jessica.
G
G
M
E
Is
that
we're
meeting
regularly
and
we
we
have
a
transit
committee,
we
have
some
members
that
are
active,
so
that's
the
plus.
A
Know
it's
been
a
long
battle
to
get
to
get
to
that
point.
Okay,
let's
move
over
to
greenway
committee.
C
Our
last
meeting
was
a
field
trip
we
kind
of
toured
the
new
bike
lanes
on
college
and
pat,
provided
a
little
bit
of
input
to
lucy
with
the
city
staff
and
ended
up
at
a
brewery.
Greenway
committee
is
the
best
committee.
F
A
What
is
the
update
on
the
other
side
of
the
river?
I
haven't
been
able
to
go
over
there
in
a
while.
C
L
Is
what
everything
is
going
smoothly
with
that
greenway
project
and
it
should
be
over
the
construction,
should
be
done
by
the
beginning
of
august
I'll,
say
maybe
the
end
of
july.
If
everything
goes
well
and
we're
going
to
begin
planning,
our
ribbon-cutting
sandwich.
A
C
Anything
else:
yeah
yeah,
the
city-
has
an
rf
rf
loi
out
right
now
for
the
north
red
tip
roma
dikeman
extension.
So
the
greenway
between
the
current
terminus
at
white
duck
taco
further
north
all
the
way
to
not
quite
to
broadway
but
north
along
the
river,
so
hiring
a
consultant
soon
to
do
the
learning
for
that.
K
A
All
right
bike
pad.
B
I
think
this
time
right
so
yeah,
so
we
we
this
last
meeting,
we
had
asphalt,
saved
presentation
and
the
gap
plan,
presentation
which
are
great
to
be
able
to
get
more
of
the
information
and
keep
up
to
date.
You'll
survive
republicans,
but
those
one
of
the
exciting
things
we
have
coming
up,
however,
is
that,
since
our
last
meeting
has
somewhat
reflected
in
the
minutes
of
the
reporting,
ken
has
agreed
to
work
with
us
on
a
maintenance
plan
for
bike
facility
in
nashville,
because
we
took
over
this,
we
helped
we
approved.
B
J
B
Our
endorsement
to
having
metal
lanes
middle
roads
lane
the
shoulder
right
now
he
swept
at
the
bike
lane.
If
this
city
takes
over
maintenance
on
it
and
part
of
that
conversation
was
that
we
would
work
with
the
city
on
bike
lane
maintenance
plan,
so
not
just
an
update
in
terms
of
like
what
he's
doing,
but
actually
right
now,
it's
not
enough.
It's
not
good
at
all.
So
since
canada
has
made
that
commitment,
we're
going
to
take
him
up
on
it
and
start
working
on
a
plan
to
better
maintain
the
bike
lane
in
nashville.
A
A
Attend
a
mac
meeting
yet.
K
Yes,
I've
actually
been
attending
night
meetings
since
last
august-
oh
perfect,
so
yeah
I
do
have
an
update
just
some
things
that
are
going
on.
We
had
our
last
meeting
may
23rd
and
the
next
one
is
this.
Coming
monday
june
27th
we
have
awarded
several
several
neighborhood
grants.
A
lot
of
the
neighborhood
associations
were
able
to
apply
and
get
money
for
various
projects,
and
so
that's
ongoing.
There
are
applications
on
the
those
that
have
the
their
neighborhood
association
registered.
K
We're
encouraging
everybody
to
look
at
that
opportunity
for
something
that
you
might
want
and
something
that
is
doable
and
we
we
have
two
new
members
that
joined
us
to
fill
in
some
gaps
from
2801
and
28806
zip
codes.
So
we
are,
we
have
all
of
our
spots
filled.
We
also
are
revising
some
of
our
volunteer
of
the
year
programs
to
do
more
of
a
monthly
there's,
so
many
people
doing
great
things
in
neighborhoods
around,
and
so
we
are
going
to
change
that
structure
a
little
bit.
K
Our
subcommittee
is
working
on
that
to
rather
than
just
pick
one
person
for
the
year
have
just
every
month,
people
that
are
doing
things
in
their
neighborhood
associations
and
strengthening
neighborhoods.
K
K
I
know
lucy
came
to
one
of
the
several
neighborhood
association
meetings
in
the
past
several
months
and
neighborhood
advisory
council
is.
This.
Has
that's
that's
where
a
lot
of
the
questions
are
coming
from
is
when
are
when
are
the
greenways
coming
near
us?
K
So
I
would
love
to
be
able
to
get
some
updates
on
that
at
some
point
from
and
I'm
not
even
sure
who
to
go
to,
because
michael
stratton
was
doing
so
much
of
that
before
and
the
last
I
had
five
things
written
down:
oh
yeah,
we're
just
bob
at
mays.
Is
our
chair
right
now
and
we're
really
trying
to
push
everybody
on
the
neighborhood
advisory
council
to
go
to
at
least
one
neighborhood
association
meeting
that
is
not
in
their
neighborhood.
K
A
Excellent,
thank
you
and
just
on
the
greenway
updates,
lucy
and
the
team
have
put
together
an
amazing
website
or
pages
on
our
website
on
the
city's
website,
and
they
talk
about
the
different
projects
where
they
are
where
they
are
in
stages.
A
lot
of
them
were
hoping
to
get
as
like
many
things
we
do
hoping
to
get
funded,
but
there's
a
lot
of
really
good
information
about
where
it's
going
to
go
in
some
kind
of
preliminary
routing
in
some
areas.
So
I
would
point
folks
in
that
direction:
that's
just
it's
fantastic.
A
You
kind
of
click
through
and
highlight
them,
and
it's
really
very
good,
and
you
can
see
you
know
overall,
there's
going
to
be
a
network
where
things
are
going
to
be
connecting
and
reaching
out.
You
know
technical
by
technical
to
each
neighborhood,
which
is
the
is
the
focus
and
hope.
So
please
note
the
staff
updates
our
list
of
projects
future
agenda
items.
If
there's
anything
that
you
anyone
wishes
to
get
added,
just
send
it
off
and
we
can
send
to
myself,
randy
and
jessica.