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From YouTube: Urban Forestry Commission – April 4, 2023
Description
Regular meeting of the City of Asheville Urban Forestry Commission.
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A
B
All
right
well,
that's
me,
then
welcome
everybody
to
the
April
meeting
of
the
urban
forestry
commission
city
of
Asheville.
My
name
is
Amy
Smith
I'm,
the
chair.
We
will
start
out
just
by
introductions
and
then
get
into
our
business
so
again,
Amy,
Smith
and
I'll
just
start
with
urban
forestry.
Commission
members,
starting
with
Dawn.
F
B
Thank
you
so
much
looks
like
shirt
on
just
joined
in
when
you're
ready
shirt
on.
If
you
want
to
unmute
and
introduce
yourself
we're
just
doing
introductions
you're
very
welcome.
G
Damn
shardon
member
of
urban
forestry
Commission.
B
Thank
you
and
so
for
membership.
Today,
Patrick
Gilbert
is
absent
and
Sharon
Sumrall
is
having
an
emergency
car
issue.
She
was
trying
to
wrap
it
up
if
she
can
she'll
make
it,
but
it's
not
looking
like
it
so
we're
also
missing
councilwoman
Kim
Roney
said
she
had
a
previous
commitment,
but
she
promised
as
always
to
review
and
send
our
recommendations
and
concerns
up
to
City
Council
on
her
report,
and
so
today
we
also
have
some
City
staff
with
us
today,
so
just
make
it
easy.
H
Haley
Mahoney
development
review,
specialist
with
development
services
and
today
I'm
just
helping
out
as
my
last
day
as
the
assistant
to
the
urban
forestry
commission.
Thank.
B
You
and
with
that,
since
we're
live
streaming,
we
all
want
to
say
thank
you
so
much
to
Haley
for
being
our
Helper
and
ligation
and
walking
us
through
this
so
much
and
we
really
appreciate
your
hard
work
and,
of
course
we
are
looking
forward
to
working
with
Hunter
as
well,
but
thank
you
so
much
Haley
and.
E
C
B
B
M
Well
done,
thank
you.
Amy
ameiser
I
am
with
urban
planner
development
services
and
I'm
going
to
present
the
alternative
compliance
application
say
today,
hi
everybody.
O
B
Okay,
thank
you,
I,
don't
think
I
missed
anyone.
Let
me
know
speak
up
if
I
didn't
see
you
okay,
so
we
are
calling
the
meeting
to
order
followed
by
approval
of
the
minutes
from
last
month.
That
was
linked
action
minutes
and
the
agenda.
We
just
need
a
motion
to
approve
in
a
second.
B
In
there
on
that
one,
so
we'll
do
a
roll
call
vote.
I'll
start
with
Dawn
hi
Zoe
aye
Cecil.
B
G
M
M
Commission
members
again,
my
name
is
gronya.
I
am
with
development
services,
department
and
I'm.
Going
to
present
the
staff
report
to
you
today
for
the
alternative
compliance
application
for
Broadway.
M
Science,
driveway
parking
area
and
streets
that
streetscape
improvements
and
the
application
for
the
alternative
compliance
zones
in
on
the
landscape,
standard
for
the
property
line
buffer
and
also
the
planting
strip,
and
the
requested
alternative
involves
reducing
the
buffer,
but
maintaining
the
the
full
complement
of
plantings
and
also
adding
a
forefoot
black
metal
or
aluminum
and
picket
fence
on
top
of
a
retaining
wall
along
the
rear
of
the
property
line
and
the
information
I
have
about
the
wall
is
that
it's
the
maximum
height
of
that
is
seven
feet,
and
the
second
request
is
for
the
street
trees
and
again
not
reducing
the
number
of
trees
that
are
required
or
or
will
be
planted,
but
simply
using
silver
cell
system
as
an
alternative
due
to
the
narrowness
of
the
planting
strip,
along
that
Northern
property
along
Monroe
Place.
M
Essentially
so
the
existing
conditions-
and
you
can
see
this
is
taken
from
from
Broadway
Street
Monroe
places
to
your
left.
There
is
where
you
can
see
that
white
van
on
the
right
hand
side
of
the
photograph-
that
is
an
encroachment
into
the
existing
property,
a
driveway
encroachment
and
beyond
that
towards
the
rear
of
the
property.
There
is
also
an
MSD
sewer,
easement
and
the
property
does
slope
as
towards
the
street,
and
so
that's
existing
condition.
It's
currently
been
used
as
a
parking
lot
again.
This
is
just
a
different
angle.
M
This
picture
has
been
taken
from
Monroe
place,
looking
back
across
the
property
and
again
across
the
front
of
the
property.
Looking
along
Broadway
towards
town
and
again,
you
can
see
on
the
on
the
far
side
of
the
property
is
where
that
driveway
is.
That
is
encroaching
on
the
on
the
subject
property.
M
So
we
have
a
site
plan
that
shows
the
the
landscape
plan
shows
the
the
proposed
buffer
along
the
rear
of
the
property,
the
as
I
say,
the
report
that
buffered
with
is
being
requested
to
be
reduced,
but
the
actual
plantings
are
going
a
little
Beyond,
what's
required
and
they're
putting
the
seven
additional
shrubs
in
there.
So
the
the
overall
a
number
of
plants
that
are
being
included
as
part
of
this
site
development
are
not
being
reduced
in
any
way
so
and
then
you
can
see
the
street
trees
are
down.
M
On
the
left
hand,
side
along
Monroe
place
again
the
no
reduction
in
the
actual
requirement
of
straight
trees,
just
the
actual
silver
cell
being
used
because
of
the
site
constraints
and
the
narrowness
of
the
sidewalk
along
that
that
portion
of
the
property.
M
So
as
far
as
our
our
findings
and
the
this,
the
stop
finds
that
both
the
requests
appear
to
meet
the
alternative
compliance
standards
that
are
set
out
in
713
in
that
they're
not
attributable
to
the
the
proposed
side
or
the
building
design,
that
the
physical
conditions
and
constraints
are
not
a
result
of
the
applicant's
own
actions
that
they
don't
present
a
safety
hazard
and
upon
maturity.
M
They
will
provide
Landscaping
that
is
equal
or
better
than
the
proposed
standard
requirements,
and
they
address
plant
Vigor
and
health
and
it's
reasonably
compatible
with
the
natural
Topography
of
the
actual
site
and
the
project
in
itself
also
ties
in
with
the
neighborhood
Corridor
District
which
which
the
subject
site
is
located
in.
It
is
a
residential
development
and
fits
in
with
the
general
and
purposes
of
that
of
that
actual
zoning
District.
M
So
I
don't
have
any
more
than
that.
I'm
again,
we
just
we
I
felt
in
in
the
review
that
it
did
meet
those
conditions
or
those
requirements
of
the
alternative,
compliance
and
but
I
I
think
I'm
happy
to
open
this
up
to
any
public
discussion,
and
hopefully,
Suzanne
can
jump
in
with
any
questions
too.
K
K
Yes,
and
they
have
their
hand
raised
and
so
you'll.
H
Hunter,
you
did
everything
right,
I'm,
not
sure
why
we
can't
hear
the
caller
caller
ending
in
7020.
Are
you
speaking.
H
H
H
Q
K
And
we
can
try
this
again
then
to
keep
commuting
going.
If
there's
no
comments
on
this
alternative
compliance
case,
yep.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
Okay,
so
back
to
Alternative
compliance,
we'll
come
back
to
the
caller.
So
let's
see
I
think
Cecil
was
first
was
hand
up.
F
B
All
right,
good
question,
I,
don't
know
if
Suzanne
or
Claire.
The
applicants
would
like
to
address
that.
O
Hi
again
I'm
Suzanne
Godsey,
with
cyworks
Studios.
We
have
done
this
before
on
several
other
projects.
O
Essentially
when
we
have
a
retaining
wall
having
that
opaque
screen
on
top
of
it
just
lends
a
giant,
you
know,
makes
the
wall
even
larger
and
in
NCD
you're
supposed
to
have
an
eight
foot,
opaque
fence.
That
was
the
agreement
when
they
were
writing
the
code
to
address
concerns
by
the
Montford
neighborhood,
with
having
the
greenway
being
on
the
rear
of
their
property.
If
memory
serves
me
correct,
so
our
first
request
is
for
it
to
not
be
eight
feet
because
that's
excessive.
O
Our
second
request
is
that
it
maintain
and
be
open
so
that
we're
not
providing
such
a
gigantic
tall
wall.
On
our
side,
the
existing
house
immediately
adjacent
to
us
that
we're
buffering
from
is
really
really
close
to
the
property
line
and
by
the
time
we
plant
the
plant
material
and
we
put
in
that
wood
screen.
If
that's
required,
I'm
a
little
bit
concerned
that
we
were
building
two
walls
to
create
a
house,
if
you
will,
there
will
be
no
eyes
on
that,
and
then
that
property
owner
is
going
to
be
I'm.
O
A
little
concerned
they'll
be
a
little
bit
responsible
for
you
know:
what's
happening
back
behind
there,
because
on
our
side
of
the
property,
we
would
not
have
any
idea
unless
they,
let
us
know
so
again,
I
think
it's
just
the
screen.
Is
there
and
being
suggested
because
there's
a
wall
that
is
required
to
have
a
safety
railing.
G
Hi
Suzanne
I'm
curious
about
the
two
existing
trees
that
are
on
the
property
right
now
looks
like
a
you
know:
16
inch,
American,
Sycamore
and
another.
You
know
15
or
16
inch
oak.
What
thought
was
put
towards
designing
the
building
and
site
around
retaining
those
two
trees.
O
Oh
that's
a
good
question.
We
are
extremely
Limited
in
where
we
can
put
our
driveway
So
geometrically
speaking
once
we
put
in
the
buffer
once
we
put
in
the
parking
and
once
we
put
in
the
required
sidewalk
on
Broadway,
we
only
have
so
much
room
and
then
the
city
has
requirements
for
how
far
or
how
close
you
can
be
to
an
intersection.
So
their
preference
is
for
you
to
be
further
back,
so
the
driveway
got
sighted,
where
it
is
and
it's
taking
out
one
of
those
trees.
O
The
second
one
we're
having
to
rebuild
the
sidewalks
they're,
all
not
to
code,
so
Broadway
is
being
widened
to
10
feet
and
and
then
some
we
have
to
set
our
street
trees
back
as
far
as
their
setback.
That's
ncdot
requirement,
so
that
sort
of
again
you
know
these
are
more
limiting
factors,
so
I
believe
rebuilding
That
Sidewalk
is
gonna,
impair
and
destroy
the
roots
of
that
other
existing
tree.
So
we've
got
our
proposed
trees
coming
back
online,
recognizing
that
they're
new
trees,
but
it
wasn't
without
some
thought.
G
Would
it
be
possible
to
make
the
entrance
of
the
driveway
even
further
away
from
Broadway?
If
you
look
at
the
site
map,
you
know
pushing
it
back
to
where
that
vegetation
strip
is.
If.
G
O
You
have
so
driveways
have
to
be
10
feet
from
the
property
line,
so
we'd
be
coming
in
right.
There
you
have
to
hit
at
a
perpendicular
to
the
Monroe
place
and
and
then
we'd
be
diving
into
the
site
and
and
therefore
probably
eliminating
three
spaces,
so
I
I,
don't
think
that's
feasible
and
again.
I
think
it's
the
same
situation
with
that
other
tree
in
that
we
we're
having
to
widen
the
sidewalk.
So
I
just
think
that
it'd
be
tricky
to
see
if
those
trees
would
even
survive.
G
Well,
if,
if
the
city
is
to
be
believed
on
their
Vermont
Avenue
project,
they
are
replacing
sidewalk
and
retaining
mature
trees
with
that,
so
I
don't
think
it's
out
of
the
question
to.
O
Do
that
yeah
I
hear
what
you're
saying
I
think
that
doing
all
of
that
and
then
completely
surrounding
those
trees
with
impervious
surface
might
be
asking
a
little
bit
too
much
for
the
trees.
G
Yeah
I
appreciate
the
Civil
cells,
I
love
those
being
used.
I
guess
my
point
here
is
that
I
wonder
if
the
site
design
has
created
this
issue
of
needing
to
replace
existing
trees
and
then
having
to
go
through
an
alternative
compliance
to
plant
those
tree
trees,
whereas
if
the
design
was
reconsidered
a
little
bit
more
retaining
these
two
mature
trees,
then
this
wouldn't
be
an
issue.
O
So
this
is
more
of
a
broader
comment
really
than
just
the
straight
trees.
But
I
went
to
the
state
of
downtown
luncheon
a
couple
weeks
ago,
and
the
mayor
said
that
the
city
is
looking
at
a
study
on
how
to
how
to
address
the
missing
middle,
and
that
is
multi-family
housing,
two
to
four
units
on
Enfield
lots
and
what
are
the
impediments
to
those
to
to
getting
more
info
housing
at
a
higher
density
and
I
would
say
that
some,
sometimes
it's
a
landscape
code.
O
That
is,
is
an
issue
and
it
you
know
it's
a
balancing
act
as
land
planners
on
what
to
keep
and
what
to
what
to
eliminate
and
replant.
And
this
was
a
decision
that
we
made
to
get
four
infill
housing
units
on
this
piece
of
property.
D
Hi
Suzanne
I
want
to
just
start
by
saying
that
I
I
appreciate
that
this
is
maybe
the
second
or
third
time
that
I've
seen
you
at
a
UFC
meeting
so
and
it
seems
like
each
time
you
are.
D
Your
plantings
are
plentiful
and
you
prioritize
that
and
I
want
to
just
start
by
saying
that
I
appreciate
that
what
I
would
also
like
to
see,
though,
is
for
just
full
transparency.
I
feel
like
it
would
be
really
helpful
to
have
a
tree
inventory
included
in
the
application,
and
would
you
be
willing
to
include
them
in
future
applications
yeah.
O
If
the
city
will
add
that
to
their
checklist,
we
always
have
an
existing
conditions
and
demolition
plan
that
someone-
whether
it's
us
or
the
civil
engineer,
generates
at
some
time
through
the
process.
So
that
is
definitely
something
that
we
we
don't
have
on
hand
we
can
get
it
I
just
need
to
just
someone
needs
to
direct
me
to
that's
a
requirement
and
I'm
happy
to
do
that.
O
I'm
I
can't
swear
that
I'll
remember
next
time,
but
but
to
my
knowledge,
those
two
existing
trees
are
the
significant
vegetation
on
the
site,
a
lot
of
the
plant
material
that
you
see
between
us
and
that
existing
house
is
on
the
the
adjacent
property
side.
B
I'm
just
going
to
jump
in
real,
quick
Karen,
your
point
has
been
brought
up
previously.
It's
just
not
currently
in
you
know,
written
that
way
for
all
the
variables
now
site.
Works
probably
does
it,
but
not
everyone
does.
So.
If,
as
a
group,
we
want
to
see
that
then
it's
a
different
question,
you
know
it's
bigger
right.
It's
behind
the
scenes,
changing
the
requirements
for
alternative
compliance,
which
we
have
been
talking
about,
actually
adding
that
so
just
want
to.
B
Let
you
know
that
that's
you
know
again
more
than
just
this
applicant,
but
it
has
been
something
that's
been
brought
up
for
this
process,
so
we
will
revisit
that.
As
you
know,
a
potential
rehash
of
alternative
compliance
altogether.
B
Do
you
have
any
other
questions.
Was
that
it
Karen
she's,
good,
okay,
you've
sold
the
floor,
then
I
guess
I.
Think
Keith
was
next.
I
Yeah
I
had
a
question
about
the
the
buffer
script
in
the
back
in
the
back.
I
think
you
already
answered
it
was
the
existing
chain
link
fence
gonna
come
out
and
was
the
I
believe
there's
the
existing
multi-stem
to
Red
Maple
back
there
as
well
was.
Was
that
plan
to
be
removed.
I
O
I
Sure
yeah
I
mean
and
I
guess
to
add
on
to
that.
If
the
if
the
multi-stem
maple
is
going
to
remain,
it's
going
to
create
quite
a
bit
of
shade
along
that
buffer
strip
and
so
I'm
kind
of
wondering
about
your
selection
of
plants
for
that
area,
whether
or
not
they'll
be
able
to
get
enough
sunlight
in
that
area.
O
I
can
certainly
take
that
into
consideration
for
some
reason.
My
PDF.
O
O
Okay,
oh
good
I've
got
my
AutoCAD
open.
Thank
you.
Nancy
I
appreciate
that
oh
yeah
we've
got
rhododendrons
and
we've
got
father,
Gilla
they'll
tolerate
shade,
so
the
rhododendrons
and
then
we've
got
some
winter
Jasmine
to
hang
over
the
wall
and
I
think
that
that
will
be
okay,
because
it's
going
to
have
that
heat
of
the
wall.
That's
going
to
give
it
some
energy.
B
All
right,
thank
you,
so
Cecil.
F
Yeah,
looking
at
the
plan,
okay,
the
the
idea
is
for
four
units,
four
housing
units
and
eight
parking
spaces,
and
yet
looking
at
the
municipal
climate
plan,
we're
going
to
consider
later
in
the
meeting
we're
trying
to
reduce
the
carbon
emissions
from
the
city.
F
O
No
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
the
number
of
parking
spaces
is
going
to
affect
those
trees
and
I
will
say
we
are
doing
a
permeable
behaving
system
for
the
parking
lot.
C
A
B
B
E
F
B
L
B
Yeah,
sadly,
so
I
would
just
recommend
if
you,
if
you
don't
mind,
if
you
would
vote
and
then
we
can
I'll
I'll
Loop
you
back
in.
D
B
Only
two
things,
so
the
only
reason
to
abstain
is
if
you
have
a
financial
interest
in
the
project
and
it's
been
pre-approved
before
the
meeting
for
refraining
from
the
vote
and
then
for
the
existing
site
plan
and
all
of
that
stuff.
The
thing
we
have
to
remember
is
a
private
party
is
able
to
develop
their
site
within
the
current
language
of
the
ordinance
and
So.
Currently
they
do
not
have
to
preserve
every
tree
if
they
are
meeting
the
rest
of
the
tree,
canopy
protection
ordinance
through
planting
or
feeling
so
I
totally
agree.
B
B
B
A
Q
Okay,
thank
you.
Gloria
Shen,
here.
First
of
all,
I'd
like
to
praise
each
member
of
the
UFC
for
the
Valiant
work
in
significant
time.
That's
been
invested
to
advocate
for
these
trees.
With
that
said,
I
have
some
more
thoughts
concerning
the
golf
course
project
would
I
personally
observed
of
the
Landscaping
Company
repeatedly
parking
trucks
and
heavy
equipment
on
the
roots
of
trees,
not
to
be
removed
was
appalling.
Q
Even
more
Grievous
were
these
three
areas,
one
the
number
of
mature,
healthy
trees,
ultimately
removed
for
golf
purposes
alone,
two
trees
removed
without
the
indicator,
ribbons
and
three.
The
manner
in
which
the
trees
were
pruned
without
leaving
any
sort
of
collar,
so
that
these
live
tissue
wounds
would
have
no
way
to
heal,
ensuring
the
loss
of
even
more
treats
all
over
the
golf
course
when
we'll
find
flush
cuts
on
the
prune
trees
showing
how
there
was
no
regard
for
the
health
of
the
trees
or
their
survival.
Q
I'm
just
very
perplexed
as
to
how
any
Isa
certified
Arbors
would
authorize
the
types
of
cuts
seen
on
so
many
of
the
trees
around
the
golf
course
that
will
result
in
infections
and
the
decline
of
these
treats
I
would
like
to
see
the
dates
when
the
arborist
was
on
site.
There's
a
great
deal
at
stake
here.
If
the
city
is
not
willing
to
learn
from
what
went
awry
with
this
project
and
make
changes,
I
have
no
words
for
that.
Q
This
is
how
I
see
the
situation
if
I
had
hired
a
contractor
to
work
around
my
home
and
to
cause
permanent
damage
to
Irreplaceable
property,
that
contractor
would
have
been
fired
on
the
spot
and
held
accountable
for
damages.
What
I
observed
with
a
contractor
continuing
to
work
on
this
project
was
akin
to
saying
okay,
so
you
irreparably
damaged
several
pieces
of
property
and
also
consistently
failed
to
follow
directions,
causing
even
more
damage
elsewhere.
Q
But
let's
have
you
come
back
tomorrow
and
over
the
next
few
weeks
and
put
you
on
the
calendar
and
come
back
in
the
fall,
and
how
is
that
a
good
idea?
What
kind
of
precedent
is
being
set
for
those
hired
by
the
city?
A
contractor
should
not
be
able
to
follow
instructions
repeatedly
cause
irreversible
damage
to
property.
That
cannot
be
replaced
and
still
keep
a
job.
I
also
want
to
point
out
that
there
was
a
line
item
in
the
December
report,
indicating
that
only
six
trees
need
to
be
removed
for
strictly
golf
purposes.
Q
With
a
revised
January
report
that
line
item
went
missing,
it
would
have
been
66
trees,
not
six,
to
be
clear.
These
were
not
already
dead,
not
dying,
not
disease,
non-invasive,
non-hazardous
trees,
so
65
of
the
total
trees
removed
for
this
project
were
for
golf
purposes
alone.
I
really
think
these
trees
deserve
far
better
than
what
they
got.
It's
my
opinion
that
accountability
needs
to
be
on
the
menu,
not
just
today,
but
every
day,
moving
forward.
Thank
you.
K
K
There
is
one
other
caller
in
public
input.
Would
you
like
to
press
star
3
now
to
make
a
public
comment.
K
B
H
Chris
did
message
me:
I'm,
sorry,
double
click,
the
hand,
Chris
did
message
to
say
he's
running
a
little
bit
behind
in
his
other
meeting,
I
told
him
just
to
join
us
when
he
can
and
we'll
get
him
get
to
his
item.
Basically
as
soon
as
we
can
when
he
joins.
B
Us
I
appreciate
that.
Okay,
thank
you
so
we'll
hold
on
that
for
just
a
moment.
Mark
Foster,
do
you
have
a
report
from
the
arborist
office.
N
Yes,
it's
been
a
busy
time
for
us
since
our
last
meeting
the
wind
storms
that
we
keep
having
kept
us
running
all
over
town,
picking
up
trees
that
have
decided
to
fall
into
the
road
or
other
places,
houses,
cars,
whatever
12
of
my
40
trees,
are
planted
for
this
year's
spring
planting
contract
and
otherwise
it's
pretty
much
a
normal
business.
We've
started
roadside
mowing
to
keep
the
vegetation
out
of
the
road,
so
you
all
aren't
driving
at
each
other
down
the
middle
of
the
road.
B
Thank
you.
Any
questions
for
Mark
all
right,
Keith
Urban,
Forester
I
just
started,
but
if
you
have
a
report
or
anything
to
let
us
know
about
I
I.
I
Don't
necessarily
have
anything
to
report,
but
all
I
can
say
is
Things
Are
moving
along
smoothly
and
I'm
learning
a
lot
and
I'm
getting
a
lot
of
stuff
dumped
on
me
and
but
trying
to
make
heads
or
tails
and
and
just
having
a
lot
of
fun
at
it.
At
the
same
time,
it
feels
good
to
actually
get
back
into
a
a
more
rigorous
schedule,
rather
than
the
the
one
I
left
in
parks
and
rec,
which
was
kind
of
all
fun
and
games,
but
yeah
I
I,
like
the
challenge.
B
Two
all
right,
thank
you!
Well,
I'm,
glad
you're
here,
okay,
so
DSD
the
tree
protection
ordinance
report.
You
can
see
here
how
much
has
been
planted,
preserved
and
collected
in
fianlu-
and
this
is-
is
this
total
or
year
today
now
I
can't
remember,
Nancy!
Sorry,
if
you
can
fill
me
in
for
the
total
number
of
projects
and
total
dollars.
J
So
canopy
and
planted
and
preserved
is
year
to
date,
and
that's
the
number
of
projects
this
year
some
are
in
both.
So
we
have
two
projects
that
did
a
portion
of
planting
and
a
portion
of
preserving
the
fan.
Lou
is
total.
Is
we
there's
two
there's
both
the
year
to
date,
which
is
zero
for
all
of
them
and
then
the
total,
which
is
the
bottom
line,
is
the
total
overall.
J
B
For
you
know
how
much
is
being
planted
preserved
feeling
you
know
so
the
more
data
we
have
with
that
to
make
goal
setting
and
decisions
going
forward.
So
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
to
your
attention
that
I
know
it's
not
always
easy
to
get
this
information
from
the
report
and
it
has
to
be
generated.
You
know
ahead
of
time.
B
It
has
to
be
a
required
for
the
developer
to
provide
the
data
so
that
it
can
be
reported
on
so
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
on
your
radar
that
there
might
be
some
manipulation
of
this
report
to
get
different
kinds
of
data
going
forward,
so
that
was
it
all
right
anything
else.
It
takes
us
to
Old
business,
so
the
budget
request
working
group
we
are
getting
up
and
to
close
to
City
Council
vote
time
on
the
next
fiscal
year
budget.
Do
we
have
any
updates
on
how
our
request
is
going.
B
Nothing
right
now
so
I
proposed
I
was
kind
of
personally
waiting
for
the
baseball
stadium.
You
know
thoughts
to
to
have
their
moment,
but
I.
Think
personally,
this
might
be
the
time
where
we
put
in
the
big
push
now
for
the
inventory
and
the
urban
Forest
master
plan.
F
Yeah
I
think
we
really
should
make
a
push.
My
experience
on
Council
over
the
eight
years
I
was
there.
Is
that
magically
there's
money
for
things?
What
that
people
want
to
do
and
I
mean
there's
always
every
time
we
go
into
the
budget
cycle.
B
So
do
we
want
to
discuss
you
know
what
strategy
would
you
know
if
the
budget
working
group
has
you
know
developed
anything
or
if
we
want
to
talk
as
an
entire
group,
you
know
what
what
shall
we
do?
What
would
our
push
be?
B
I
know,
I
personally
will
be
sending
emails
and
I'll
encourage
everyone
to
do
that
as
well
and
make
it
personal.
You
know
we
could
always
send
out
a
a
template,
but
it's
much
better
if
you
put
it
in
your
own
words
and
then
directly
to
each
council
member,
but
are
there
other
strategies,
letters.
B
Of
urban
forests
is
always
that
the
key
right,
how
does
it
meet
the
goals
that
city
council
has
already
set
forth
for
Community
resilience
and
climate
action,
so
I
would
stress
those
as
the
key
points
not
make
it
in
either
or
because
then
they'll
just
highlight
The
Ore,
you
know
so
make
it
a
just.
This
is
why
and
why
it's
so
urgent
and
important
so
Also.
B
E
We
go
ahead
well.
I
noticed
that
the
last
copy
of
our
met,
our
graph
for
the
recommendation
to
city
city
council
was
February.
The
3rd
and
I
only
see
one
edit
in
there
about
the
having
actually
hired
the
urban
Forester.
We
could
rework
that
paragraph
a
bit,
but
I
was
wondering
if
we
could
set
a
time
to
go
ahead
and
and
finish
that
up
with
our
group
and
send
it
forward
to
city
council.
B
C
I
guess
a
couple
things:
one
is
well
I
appreciate
the
the
contrast
between
the
money
being
spent
on
the
stadium
and
the
money
that
could
be
spent
on
urban
forestry.
I.
Don't
think
it
serves
us
well
to
make
that
case.
So
so
just
sticking
to
the
why
we
need
the
urban
forestry
program
and
the
master
plan
and
the
the
tree
inventory
two
other
things.
One
is
that
there's
money
coming
through
the
state
forest
service
specifically
for
carrying
out
tree
inventories
and
other
projects?
C
They
have
sample
tree
inventories,
which
are
smaller
ones,
that
get
extrapolated
and
then
other
projects
coming
down
the
pike
and
so
I
think
we
could
leverage
those
resources
for
the
city
to
put
in
some
funds
for
a
tree
inventory
in
urban
Forest
master
plan.
And
then
you
know
we
can
get
private
funding
or
actually
Public
Funding
through
Partnerships,
with
Greenworks
or
other
nonprofits,
and
then
on
April
25th,
which
is
the
city
council.
Meeting
that
city
council
they'll
be
proclaiming
April
29th
as
Arbor
Day
for
Asheville
and
presenting
that
Proclamation.
C
B
So
what
is
this
April?
We
would
have
time
my
thought
is.
We
would
have
time
to
create
a
recommendation
for
May.
That
would
be
like
sort
of
the
last.
You
know
start
now
with
the
talking
to
people
and
getting
involved.
But
if
we
wanted
to
put
together
a
you
know,
draft
something
for
a
recommendation.
We
could
vote
on
it
in
May,
otherwise,
we'd
have
to
kind
of
wing
it
right
now,
but
unless
we
have
something
pulled
up
that
I'm,
not
seeing
so
otherwise
Don
go
ahead.
Oh
or
Zoe
yeah
I,
don't.
E
Do
have
in
my
file
the
draft
that
we
already
wrote
that
again,
I
think
if
we
look
at
it
again
make
sure
that
it's
current
from
February
that
we
do
have
a
draft
ready
to
send
forth
to
city
council.
E
It's
just
not
in
the
I
guess
it's
not
in
the
Google
Docs.
B
Okay,
well
so
just
everyone
knows
for
a
recommendation
from
this
group
that
would
be
then
going
to
city
council
to
recommend
some
sort
of
action
or
advice.
We
do
not
have
to
have
it
pre-prepared
we
like
to
just
because
it
you
know.
Sometimes
it
gets
lengthy
and
has
a
lot
of
detail,
and
so
we
do
take
time
to
write
it
beforehand,
but
we
don't
have
to.
We
can
just
like
in
this
moment
say:
well,
here's
our
recommendation
and
we
can
vote
on
it
just
so
that
everybody
knows
kind
of
how
that
works.
B
So
it's
really,
you
know
up
to
you
all.
If
we
want
to
you
know
this
I
think
might
be
the
kind
that
we
take
the
time
to
really
dial
in,
and
you
know,
work
on
and
then
have
a
vote
next
month,
but
if
we
feel
ready
and
feel
like
it's
that
urgent,
of
course,
we
can
do
it
now.
So
any
thoughts
on
that
I'm
going
to
take
a
moment
to
say
this
is
why
we
need
to
be
in
person.
You
all
are
on
mute,
and
this
is
a
full
discussion.
B
So
you
know,
let
me
know
what
you
think
about
it
all
right.
Well
then,
we
will
revisit
that
in
May,
but
we
have
discussed
it
I'm
sure
Kim
will
include
that
in
her
report,
so
it'll
at
least
be
on
the
radar
and
April
25th
on
the
calendar
gone.
C
Go
ahead,
I
remembered
so
I
I
can
talk
to
my
team
at
Greenworks
and
see
if
we
can
put
together
a
campaign
for
for
folks
to
get
the
to
get
the
word
out
to
encourage
folks
to
contact
their
city,
council
and
staff.
B
That
would
be
perfect
appreciate
it.
Thank
you
all
right,
good
on
that
part.
Thank
you.
So
for
the
policy
working
group
Patrick
is
absent
today,
I'll
see
if
I
can
go
through
most
of
this
I'm,
actually
not
sure
I,
don't
remember
what
the
tree
protection
exemption
is
dealing
with.
B
B
Gonna,
wait
on
that.
So
sorry,
we're
just
going
to
take
that
off
the
agenda
for
now.
Thank
you.
Okay
makes
sense,
although
you
know
that
could
apply
to
our
city
work
as
well,
but
the
Landscaping
draft
code,
so
I
know
that
that
is
getting
very
close.
There's
not
an
update
on
that
right
now,
but
that
is
getting
close
to
finalized.
B
I
know,
there's
just
sort
of
some
last
minute
input,
but
that'll
be
rolled
out
and
I
think
that's
going
to
have
a
huge
impact
when
that
is
finalized
and-
and
you
know,
being
required
to
be
followed,
it
does
change
the
requirements
for
development
projects.
You
know
like
after
they
get
past.
You
know
everything
what
they're
actually
doing
on
the
ground.
So
it's
going
to
have
a
huge
impact
for
chapter
20.
B
The
policy
working
group
met
with
a
group
from
public
works
and
we've
been
through
parts
of
chapter
20
we're
still
working
on
it.
It's
a
work
in
progress,
I
see
Mark
smirking.
We
got
like
half
a
page
down
yeah,
but
it's
in
progress.
I
just
saw
another
meeting
was
scheduled
for
later
this
month,
so
we're
working
through
those
details
to
shore
up
chapter
20,
get
it
just
mostly
cleaned
up
with
the
language,
and
you
know
aligned
with
with
some
of
the
other.
B
B
Chapter
19
we
had
that
meeting
a
while
back,
I
know:
I,
don't
know
if
Chris
has
any
other
update,
but
the
working
group
met
with
the
city
and
that
one
I
know
that
we
were
close
with
at
least
what
the
UFC
had
suggested
for
updates.
There.
L
Hey
Amy
yeah,
we
are
close
and
our
goal
was
to
get
Keith
on
board,
which
we've
done
and
Keith
is
getting
up
to
speed
and
we
are
going
to
be
seeking
his
input
on
those
ordinance.
Amendments
I
think
I
have
a
time
scheduled
next
week
to
get
started
on
that
and
so
I
think
we
should
be
able
to
start
stop
the
pausing
and
restart
the
momentum
on
that
from
there.
So
we
shot
a
should
have
a
significant
update
ready
for
you
about
the
next
meeting.
B
C
B
Now
I
will
say
this
one's
a
little
more
time
consuming
because
there
really
is
a
lot
of
dialing
into
the
detail
of
it.
There's
a
learning
curve
of
getting
up
to
speed
with
just
looking
at
ordinances
and
what
they
look
like,
which
is
why
I
wanted
to
be
on
the
group
but
I
feel
like
I'm
there
now,
with
my
like
personal
education
and
now
I,
just
don't
have
time
to
lend
as
much
help
as
I
had
hoped.
B
D
I'll
step
on
I
will
say
that
I
will
have
more
time
after
May,
because
I'll
finally
be
done
with
this
master's
program.
So
I
feel
like
that
works
out
perfectly.
Okay,.
B
B
B
So
that's
for
the
master
plan
and
as
far
as
the
working
group
we're
just
kind
of
now
in
limo
to
see
if
it
gets
funded,
but
we're
ready
to
be
ready
to
help
when
the
funding
comes
into
place
for
the
fee
and
loop
portion
of
that
working
group,
we
did,
as
we
talked
about
last
week,
create
that
recommendation
for
the
framework
for
the
use
of
the
family
funds
and
I.
B
Have
it
here,
I
distributed
it
to
the
group
just
to
look
at
but
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
read
our
recommendation
and
then
we
can
vote
on
it
and
have
discussion.
So
again
we
all
saw
this.
It's
very
minorly
changed
from
last
month.
So
this
is
a
recommendation
from
the
urban
forestry
commission
to
city
council
to
create
a
framework
for
the
distribution
of
fee
and
Lou
funds
for
urban
forestry
projects.
B
As
background
fee
and
Lou
funds
are
currently
collected
when
developers
are
unable,
for
a
variety
of
reasons,
to
adhere
to
Asheville's
tree
canopy
ordinance
when
proposing
new
projects,
funds
accumulate
in
the
Resource
Management
areas
from
which
they
are
collected.
The
central
business,
district,
Urban
and
Suburban
fees
must
be
spent
in
the
areas
from
which
they
were
collected.
For
the
framework,
the
following
is
intended
as
guidance
for
developing
a
framework
for
considering
how
family
funds
could
be
managed
to
support
the
goal
of
increasing
tree
canopy
in
the
city
of
Asheville.
B
Proposed
project
areas
include
tree
planting
on
public
land,
tree
planting
on
private
land,
Community
engagement
and
education,
land
acquisition,
catapult
capital,
capital,
Improvement,
specific
to
trees
and
forests,
and
other
special
projects
specific
to
Urban
forest
trees
and
tree
canopy
protection.
These
categories
could
be
used
to
track
expenditures
from
fee
and
Lou.
Funds
for
reporting
and
projects
could
include
more
than
one
priority.
B
The
following
questions
are
examples
for
how
projects
could
be
prioritized.
In
addition
to
these
questions
and
categories,
a
matrix
of
quantifiable
benefits
can
be
employed.
How
does
the
project
benefit
urban
forestry?
How
does
it
address
Forest
canopy
loss?
How
does
it
address
issues
of
equity,
diversity
and
inclusion?
How
does
it
engage
and
educate
the
public?
How
are
the
benefits
of
urban
trees
enhanced,
including
water
quality,
habitat
connectivity
and
human
health,
and
does
the
project
enhance
habitat
for
protected
species?
B
So
that
is
our
recommendation
as
written.
Is
there
discussion,
Corrections
questions,
questions
I.
B
F
I
moved
to
approve
the
the
change.
Thank.
B
D
So
this
may
be
totally
redundant,
but
I
didn't
see
mention
of
a
member
of
the
urban
forestry
Commission
on
that
task.
Force.
B
So
there's
kind
of
two
things:
I
was
thinking
about
that,
so
the
we
can
add
it.
So
the
thought,
though,
is
that
the
final
decision
making
is
likely
not
going
to
necessarily
include
the
urban
forestry
Commission,
because
it's
a
city
framework.
However,
the
task
force
for
building
this
out
certainly
could
and
should
involve
the
urban
forestry
commission.
So
let
me
see
a
potential
edit
to
that
might
be
okay.
In
the
last
paragraph
for
the
recommendation,
it
currently
says
that
we
recommend
city
council
endorse
the
formation
of
a
task
force
composed,
as
recommended
above.
B
D
B
Think
you're
correct
in
that
that
piece
where
we're
still
you
know
talking
about
what
should
happen.
That
would
be
a
definitely
an
appropriate
place
for
us
to
be
because
this
is
not
a
final,
and
this
was
never
the
intention
to
be
a
final
framework.
This
is
getting
this
ball
rolling.
Okay
of
the
UFC
okay,
one
last
motion
to
approve,
as
amended
in
a
second
please,
and
we
lost
Cecil.
B
You
Okay
so
all
right,
Cecil
got
lost
there,
but
we
can
still
vote.
We
still
have
a
quorum.
Okay,
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
do
a
okay.
It's
back
all
right!
Cecil!
Thank
you
for
thank
you.
Are
there
all
right
go
ahead
and
unmute
we're
going
to
do
the
vote?
Well
and
actually,
since
you
were
gone,
we
had
one
last
amendment
in
the
very
last
paragraph
As,
the
recommendation.
B
We
are
recommending
that
the
city
council
endorsed
the
formation
of
a
task
force,
composers
recommended
above,
and
the
change
is
and
including
one
or
more
members
of
the
UFC
for
the
task
force
version.
So
that's
what
we're
voting
on
so
roll
call,
starting
with
Dawn
hi,
Zoe,
hi,
Cecil,
hi,
Sharon,
hi.
G
B
Aye
and
I
vote
aye,
so
our
recommendation
passes
that'll,
go
to
city
council
with
councilwoman
Roni's
report,
so
thank
you
very
much
and
I'll
send
to
Hunter
this
final
version
that
we
voted
on.
So
we
conclude
it
in
our
documents.
B
All
right
last
working
group
is
the
appropriate
species
list.
Have
you
all
had
any
update.
D
D
It
was
beautiful,
which
brings
me
to
the
the
species
list
which
currently,
as
it
stands,
70
on
the
recommended
of
the
grasses
70
on
the
recommended
species
list
are
not
native,
so
we
still
have
a
recommendation
or
a
request
for
a
review
of
that
list
and
I
think
the
Nancy
have
you
had
a
chance
to
check
in
with
you're
going
to
check
in
with
some
landscape
architecture,
folks
and
the
development
folks
to
see
how
they
felt
about
focusing
more
on
edible
and
Native
species.
D
J
J
We
need
to
stop
using
this
list,
for
everything
was
our
consensus
like
we
have
landscape
ordinance
requirements,
those
are
trees
and
shrubs.
That's
it
so
and
we
feel
like
there
could
be
other
resources
that
we
could
use
for
other,
that
are
more
resources
driven
rather
than
a
the
list.
J
That's
on
I
mean
the
list,
that's
for
meeting
the
requirements
and
then
there's
the
tree
protection
list
and
then
that
so
and
there's
a
need,
for
you
know
from
some
other
staff
to
have
one
that
is
more
layman's
terms
before,
like
you
know
your
your
homeowner,
your
non-professional,
you're,
not
and
I,
think
all
of
this
could
help
feed
into
that
and
that
we
can
add
some
of
these
items,
the
more
native
and
pollinators
to
those
as
well,
but
it
this
this
is
getting
extremely
complicated
and
there
are
a
number
of
things
on
there
that
don't
like,
because
this
is
the
recommended
species
list
for
landscape
compliance,
a
green
roof,
there's
nothing
about
compliance
for
a
green
roof
in
our.
J
D
Because
that
was
just
a
fun
thing
that
we
did,
that
was
educational,
but
it
really-
and
it
was
informative
too,
but
it
as
far
as
the
recommended
species
list
Chad
and
Mark
Foster
chimed
in
that
you
know
we
need
one
that
is
focused
and
streamlined,
which
I
totally
understand
and
and
then
we
could
potentially
have
a
second
one
that
had
more
in-depth
options,
but
the
focus
on
streamlined
one
should
still.
It
seems
to
be
focused
on
my
initial
email
from
about
a
month
ago.
D
That
said,
you
know,
these
are
natives,
these
are
not
Natives,
and
these
are
Edibles
and
as
a
city
that
has
pledged
to
support
pollinators,
we
should
really
be
having
more
native
and
pollinating
species
on
our
list
and
not
non-native
species.
J
B
So
what
I'm
hearing
is
we
need
to
shore
up
the
I?
Don't
know
if
it's
still
called
the
appropriate
species
with
the
the
development
list
right
so
that
one,
you
know,
obviously
make
sure
that
it's
accurate
and
appropriate
for
development
projects,
but
I
like
the
idea
of
having
additional
resources
and
potentially
lists,
but
the
only
downside
is
that
can
sometimes
turn
into
the
too
many
lists
in
too
many
places.
So
we'll
just
have
to
you
know,
be
careful
how
we
set
that
up.
F
Yeah
I
gotta
say
this
is
approximately
insane
when
I
was
elected
in
2009.
Actually,
2010
is
when
I
took
office.
I
became
these
the
council
representative
for
Stacy
and
the
treaty,
the
then
tree
commission
and
already
they
had
been
working
on
getting
rid
of
the
invasives
and
and
all
the
other
tweaks
to
the
planting
lists.
F
This
is
what
14
years
later
and
we
still
can't
get
rid
of
the
invasives,
and
we
still
can't
get
rid
of
this
of
this,
of
the
stupid
recommendations
for
planting
I
I.
Just
it's
like
it
boggles
me.
It
totally
totally
boggles
me:
we've
had
work
by
people
over
and
over
again
trimming
the
list
or
trimming
the
recommended
lists
from
Stacy
and
from
the
tree
commission
over
and
over
and
over
and
the
cities
just
can't
get
it
and
I
mean
to
me
it
is.
It
is
like
the
most
clear
example
of
how
bureaucracy
is
screwed
up.
F
A
B
All
right
so
so
Karen
and
Sharon
and
I
believe
shirt
on
yeah,
so
just
keep
going
with
it
and
report
back.
Let
us
know
what
help
you
need
to
to
get
that
short
up.
All
right
keys
go
ahead.
I
Well,
for
some
reason,
I
always
press
the
microphone
in
my
picture,
thinking
that
it's
going
to
unmute
me,
but
if
you
could
send
me
that
updated
list,
I
I've
been
I've,
seen
that
different
lists
in
different
places
that
I've
been
reading
off
of
and
apparently
I
was
looking
at
an
old
one
today.
I
So
if
you
could
just
email
me
that
that
current
list
and
I
could
kind
of
match
it
up
to
my
list
as
well,
because
the
old
list
that
I
was
looking
at
the
other
day
like
hardly
hit
anything
native
on
it
and
I,
was
like
it
hidden
nib
any
Hickory
or
I
mean
there
was
nothing
on
it
and
I
was
like
okay.
This
is
a
weird
list,
but
you
know
I
I
figured
out
it
was,
you
know,
just
older,
whatever
I
don't
know
where
it
even
came
from.
I
But
anyway,
if
you
could
send
me
the
latest
one
that'd
be
great
I.
D
Will
absolutely
update
you
with
that
and
the
conversation
that
I
had
with
Bill
Styles
and
she
had
you
know
she
had
some
great
recommendations
and
I'm
so
glad
we
have
an
urban
Forester
to
chime
in
on
this.
So,
yes,
I
will
absolutely
send
you
that
information.
B
Perfect:
okay,
well,
I
see
that
Chris
Coral
was
able
to
jump
in
Chris.
Are
you
there.
B
That's
good
we're
glad
you
could
join
us,
so
this
is
actually
perfect
timing,
because
it's
the
next
thing
on
our
agenda.
So
the
golf
course
you
know
we
had
a
call
in
that
expressed
the
same
concerns
that
we've
sent
to
you,
and
so
it's
kind
of
been
the
questions
that
have
come
around
and
come
to
us
from
the
community
as
well.
So
I
know
you've
seen
the
issues
that
I'm
talking
about.
B
So
if
you
want
to
give
us
an
update
on
where
the
golf
course
is
at
with
the
project
and
address,
if
you
can
any
of
the
issues
of
the
removals
and
pruning
and
the
issues
with
the
contractor.
P
Yeah
sure
so
the
three
portion
of
the
project
is
complete,
as
of
maybe
a
week
or
two
ago
and
they've
ground
down
all
stumps
that
were
not
on
steep
slopes,
so
we
left
the
steep
slopes
stumps
in
and
removed
all
the
timber
I
believe
I,
don't
think
anything's
remaining
at
this
point,
so
the
tree
portion
of
the
Project's
done
they've
moved
on
to
tea
boxes,
bunkers
and
cart
paths
starting
last
week
and
this
week
respectively.
P
As
far
as
the
pruning,
we
don't
anticipate
any
additional
pruning
this
year
at
least
nothing
significant.
If
anything
comes
up,
it
would
be
conversation
with
Mark
and
the
reason
why
any
pruning
would
happen,
but
again
I,
don't
think
that's
going
to
occur
this
year.
Mark
and
I
rode
through
can't
even
remember
what
date.
Now
at
this
point,
two
or
three
weeks
ago,
I
know
he
spoke
with
the
contractor.
Direct
I
also
did
and
spoke
with
the
arborists
on
the
project.
Direct
and
the
market.
P
I
went
and
looked
at
the
last
remaining
trees
that
were
to
be
pruned
at
that
point
in
time,
which
were
the
ones
along
hole,
number
13,
and
then
we
met
with
the
contract.
P
Well,
not
we
I
met
with
the
contractor
at
that
point
to
go
over
all
of
Mark's
recommendations
specific
to
those
trees
and
they
went
through
and
pruned
those
I
think
later
that
day
or
the
next
day,
Mark
I
don't
know
if
you've
had
a
chance
to
go
back
out,
make
sure
it
met
your
goals,
but
I
think
it
did
it's.
It
looks
pretty
good
in
my
general
opinion
yeah.
So
that's
where
we
are
at
the
moment
with
the
project,
all
wrapped
up.
B
P
B
Well,
so
it
depends
you
more
than
likely.
You
have
the
correct
list,
but
they're
occasionally
there
have
been
old
lists
that
are
but
they're,
usually
very
deep
somewhere
on
the
website,
so
you
would
have
to
have
been
in
like
the
wrong
place
to
get
the
wrong
list.
Okay,.
P
I
think
Mark
gave
me
this
list.
I
can't
remember,
but
I've
had
it
bookmarked
for
a
while.
So
it's
but
there's
a
good
list
of
trees
on
there
and
the
general
plan
of
the
process.
Chris
Spence,
the
architect
is
going
to
suggest
where
trees
are
replanted
in
the
course
and
which
varieties
which
we
would
then
bring
back
to
this
group
and
Mark
would
be,
in
our
opinion,
the
final
say
on
which
trees
we
should
plant
in
the
on
the
property.
P
But
we
wanted
to
get
it
through
this
group
as
well
Mark
go
ahead.
N
N
Any
other
lists
that
we've
been
developing
over
the
last
many
years
have
been
attempts
to
improve
upon
the
existing
list,
but
because
the
existing
list
and
actually
The
Standard
specs
manual
itself,
some
elements
of
it
haven't
yet
been
updated.
That's
why
you
know
any
lists.
We
generate
they're
not
going
to
become
official
until
the
Standard
specs
manual
actually
gets
renewed,
so
and
I
think
that
process
is
is
ongoing,
but
you
know
I've
in
my
time
working
for
the
city,
I've
grown
used
to
things
moving
in
a
glacial
Pace.
N
It's
just
been
my
experience
here
so
but
yeah
you
should
have
the
official
list
and
yeah
I'm
happy
to
go.
Take
a
look
at
the
pruning.
Now
that
they've
finished
that
row
of
Pines
on
the
front,
nine
I
did
have
some
concerns
about
some
of
those
limbs
that
would
be
removed.
You
know,
being
larger
than
I
wanted,
removed,
yeah.
P
D
Well,
we
did
have
a
caller
who
expressed
concerns
about
their
not
being
an
arborist
on
site
when
there
was
supposed
to
be
in
that
some
trees
were
being
taken
out
that
were
not
supposed
to
be
taken
out
and
that,
as
you
mentioned,
the
pruning
was
maybe
more
severe
than
it
should
have
been.
So
I
guess
I'd
like
to
hear
your
thoughts
on
that
Chris.
P
So
did
confirm
with
the
Argus
that
he
was
there
on
the
pruning
days
and
he
was
not
there
in
some
of
the
days
when
they
were
removing
only
the
trees
that
were
removed,
that
weren't
on
the
list.
There
was
only
one
and
it
actually
had
broken
itself
in
half
in
a
storm
a
couple
days.
Prior
there's
another
tree,
that's
near
the
near
hole.
Number
nine!
P
That's
like
near
the
storage
unit,
as
you
enter
on
Fairway
Drive
that
snapped
in
half
in
a
storm
recently
as
well,
but
I
presume
is
going
to
be
removed.
We
have
not
yet
done
it
because
it's
literally
just
the
trunk
and
all
of
the
branches
and
everything
are
what
snapped
off
so
it's.
It
goes
up
about
eight
feet
and
stops
at
this
point.
So
those
are
the
only
two
trees
that
were
not
on
the
list
that
were
removed,
so
I'm
not
sure
where
that
collar
is
getting
that
from.
N
Yeah
I
think
we
did
talk
in
past
meetings
about
how
frequently
ribbons
were
being
yanked
off
of
trees,
but
the
list
remained
regardless
of
whether
or
not
a
ribbon
was
on
a
tree.
D
D
I,
yes,
we
we
have
spoken
about
that,
but
there
just
seemed
to
be
pretty
serious
concerns
that
maybe
some
aspects
of
the
project
weren't
exactly
implemented
how
they
were
presented
in
the
plan,
and
so
that's
that's
something
that
I
feel
like
is
a
you
know.
It's
a
valid
concern
of
community
members
that
are
living
nearby
and
and
I'm
just
wondering
you
know
what
kind
of
oversight
and
accountability
can
we
have,
and
how
can
we
improve
this
process.
P
I
don't
know
if
I
have
an
answer
for
that.
As
far
as
how,
like
addition,
what
the
oversight
can
look
like,
so
the
op
in
this
case
the
operator
of
the
course
Commonwealth-
is
managing
the
project
on
our
behalf.
P
We,
the
city,
inserted
ourselves
a
little
more
than
we
are
with
the
rest
of
the
project
on
the
tree
portion,
specifically
just
because
we
knew
it
was
a
little
bit
more
of
a
hot
button
issue
in
the
community,
and
so
you
know,
I
met
with
the
contractor,
probably
two
to
three
times
a
week
throughout
the
whole
process
and
I
know:
Mark
had
multiple
conversations
with
them
throughout
the
process
and
at
the
beginning,
probably
more
inserted
in
the
project
than
he
initially
thought
he
was
going
to
be
so
definitely
was
oversight
as
far
as
the
UFC,
specifically,
if
you're
speaking
of
that
I,
you
know,
I,
don't
know
anything
about
y'all's
bylaws,
but
assuming
it's
similar
to
our
Civic
Center
commission,
Advisory,
Board
I,
think
that
would
come
down
to
changes
in
how
the
bylaws
are
structured
as
to
what
oversight
could
be
on
a
project
like
this,
but
I'm
speculating
there
I.
D
So
this
is
I,
think
my
last
question
or
comment
if
it
is
found
that
pruning
was
done
improperly
and
not
to
ISA
standards
or
that
trees
were
removed,
that
weren't
supposed
to
be
removed.
It
does
say
in
chapter
20
that
there's
a
hundred
dollar
fee
for
that
and
for
each
subsequent
day
that
the
violation
is
happening.
D
It's
another
100
fee,
so
I'm
just
putting
that
out
there,
as
you
know,
as
the
form
of
that,
like
that's
what
we
do,
that's
what
we
have
right
now
and
it's
more
of
a
conversation
of
how.
D
How
do
we?
How
do
we
Implement
that
you
know,
and
so
I
don't
have
all
the
answers
either
I'm
just
saying
what
the
information
that
I
know
so
far.
N
N
I
was
definitely
not
happy
with
some
of
the
pruning
Cuts
I
saw
on
the
trees
in
the
back
nine.
It's
not
how
I
envisioned
pruning
solutions
to
making
the
golf
course
more
usable
and
and
improving
the
growing
of
the
grass
other
than
that.
You
know,
I,
don't
know
what
to
suggest.
As
far
as
holding
you
know,
contractor
accountable
or
whatever.
It's
definitely
a
project
with
a
greater
extent
than
their
hired
arborist
could
spend
all
his
time
with.
N
Apparently,
since
he
was
working
for
another
tree
company,
and
this
was
an
additional
duty
that
he
had
assumed
to
do
guidance
for
their
work
and
I
definitely
couldn't
spend
all
day
every
day
during
the
course
of
this
project.
Over
there
you
know,
I
have
my
own
duties
here
in
public
works
to
take
care
of
on
a
daily
basis.
N
Beyond
what
you've
just
mentioned
so
far,
I
know
going
forward
if
we
have
another
large
project
like
this,
where
the
pruning
is
supposed
to
be
done
to
standards,
we're
going
to
need
to
have
a
lot
stronger
conversation
at
the
front
end
the
expectations
of
what
that
looks
like
and
probably
a
more
detailed
conversation
walking
around
with
the
contractor
to
each
location,
and
rather
than
just
saying
yes,
we
can
fix
this
by
pruning
instead
of
removing
this
tree
too,
or
that
tree
too
or
whatever,
because
the
F,
the
the
whole
point
of
trying
to
find
pruning
Solutions,
was
to
try
and
manage
the
number
of
trees
that
were
removed.
N
P
N
N
I
thought
so
and
so
a
trip
around
with
the
contractor.
You
know,
because
myself
and
and
Matt
you
know
with
with
the
golf
course
management
company
and
with
Chris.
N
You
know
we
went
around
in
Golf
Course
golf
carts
repeatedly,
looking
at
things
and
pointing
to
things
and
talking
about
things
and
saying
this
is
we
can
do
this
here
and
do
that
there
and
whatever
but
I,
think
the
contractor
maybe
needed
to
be
involved
in
as
many
of
those
laps
around
as
possible
so
that
they
had
a
clear
understanding
of
what
our
expectations
was.
I
think
the
disconnect
may
have
been
that
okay
they're
going
to
have
an
Isa
certified
Arborist.
N
You
know
minding
the
store
for
them,
while
they're
doing
the
pruning.
Everything
will
be
just
fine,
well,
okay,
that
didn't
work
that
way.
So
we
obviously
have
a
learning
opportunity
here
that
you
can't
just
expect
that
somebody
is
going
to
Envision
the
same
way.
You
do
how
you
try
and
fix
a
problem
or
how
you
try
and
manage
a
situation
to
try
and
meet
the
needs
of
different
stakeholders.
D
I
want
to
just
say:
thank
you,
Mark
I
know
you
have
a
full
plate,
so
I
appreciate
that
I
also
just
want
to
emphasize
it.
I
mean
these
are
public
trees.
These
are
Community
trees
and
I
feel
like
if
the
plan
was
not
implemented
the
way
it
said
it
was
going
to
be
that
there
should
be
consequences
for
this
project
and
not
keep
pushing
it
forward
to
the
next
project.
B
Good,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Karen
good
points,
I
know
Mark,
you
kind
of
said
for
a
second.
There
you'll
check,
you
know
up
the
ladder,
so
I
think
that
would
be
a
great
place
to
at
least
start
like
Karen
says,
with
this
project,
seeing
if
there
can
be
recourse
for
things
that
you
believe
were
clearly
stated
and
didn't
happen.
The
way
you
wanted
so
I
believe
next
was
shardon.
G
Yeah
Mark
I'm
happy
to
hear
that
you
weren't
satisfied
with
those
pruning
guts.
You
know
I
understand
your
goal
of
keeping
trees
instead
of
removing
them,
but
you
know
they're.
Removing
large
themes
like
that.
You
might
as
well
just
remove
the
tree
yeah.
G
I
mean
I
think
this
you
know
for
future
projects
of
the
size
on
public
trees,
I
I,
don't
fully
understand
why
the
city
hired
a
company
that
did
not
have
certified
Arbors
on
staff
and
I.
Don't
understand
why
the
city
hired
a
company
that
didn't
have
certified
Arbors,
climbing
you
know
in
a
lot
of
this-
could
have
been
preventative
and
educated.
G
You
know,
sir
God
arborist
would
have
been
climbing
the
trees
and
doing
the
pruning
themselves
as
opposed
to
just
having
an
arborist
sign
off
on
the
project
and
I
think
it
also
goes
back
to
you
know
the
the
cities.
G
I,
don't
fully
know
this
policy,
but
I've
heard
it
before,
where
you
choose
the
lowest
price
with
a
responsive
party
and
you
get
what
you
pay
for
you
know
a
lot
of
people
can
be
responsive
and
do
really
crappy
work
and
I
think
that
this
is
a
great
example
of
that,
and
so
maybe
maybe
that
can
be
revised
in
the
future
too,
where
you
actually
pay
for
Quality
arborists
to
do
quality
of
War
culture
on
on
this
day
of
a
project
as
opposed
to
the
landscaper
and
also
you
know,
as
far
as
the
flags
being
removed
on
the
trees,
I
mean
some
somebody
that
walks
the
course
you
know
almost
daily
and
sees
what's
going
on
through
this
whole
project
mentioned
that
you
know,
trees
were
being
removed
and
really
Brushy
overgrown
areas
that
did
not
have
flags
on
them
and
their
concern
was
that
you
know
okay,
if
file
eggs
are
being
removed,
it
just
seems
really
implausible
for
somebody
to
crawl
through
all
this
Brushy
area,
to
remove
flags
on
a
tree
that
was
removed.
G
I
guess
my
question
on
that
is
as
far
as
trees
possibly
being
removed,
that
weren't
on
the
list
are
there
any
before
and
after
pictures
that
we
can
reference
and
and
present
to
the
public.
As
far
as
this
was
this
tree-
and
this
was
that
tree
because
right
now
we
just
have
your
old's
word-
that
that
no
trees
were
removed
without
being
flagged.
N
The
it's
like
going
jump.
Well,
you
can
probably
jump
in
on
the
Brushy
areas
too.
You
might
probably
know
about
it
more
than
I
do,
but
I
was
just
going
to
say
that
the
whole
place
has
been
getting
spruced
up
with
removal
of
all
kinds
of
invasives
and
other
various
brush
and
things
that
have
been
coming
up
and
that's
a
completely
separate,
Pursuit
being
carried
out
by
the
gulf
management
company.
It
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
contract,
so
I
don't
know
if
Christy
wanted
to
go
farther
with
that.
P
Yeah
and
I
don't
know
who
the
caller
was
that
brought
that
in.
But
you
know,
I've
had
one
specific
person
approached
me
numerous
times
at
the
course
and
even
knock
on
my
front
door
about
those
trees
and
the
brush
trees.
To
my
understanding,
I
can't
remember
if
it
was
a
four
inch
diameter
or
six
inch
diameters
like
when
a
tree
becomes
like
an
official
counted
tree
so
like
when
we
did
our
inventory,
that
was
I,
think
roughly
2
400
trees.
P
On
course,
there
was
only
trees
that
were
six
inches
wide
or
greater
at
breast
height
I
think
it
was,
and
so
there's
clearing
that's
been
happening
in
the
brush
sides
of
the
course
that
has
involved
like
trees.
That
might
be
two
three
inches
around
that
might
be
I,
don't
know
10
to
12
feet
tall,
but
just
part
of
like
the
general
clearing
of
brush,
which
has
been
English
ivy.
G
P
Definitely
definitely
not,
but
the
way
that
you
could
like
check
against
our
word.
I
guess.
If
you
go
to
Google
Street
View
There's
an
opportunity
like
in
the
upper
right.
You
can
actually
click
and
it
can
take
you
to
certain
points
in
time
and
there
was
one
completed.
I
want
to
say
this
past
July
or
August.
P
So
you
can
go
back
to
August
of
2022
and
then
go
compared
to
real
time
and
you
can
get
updates
like
you
have
to
go
on
the
computer
for
2022,
but
then
go
live
and
in
person
to
see
present.
But
you
can
clearly
see
a
good
number
of
the
trees
around
the
course
just
by
walking
through
the
neighborhood
on
Google,
Street,
View
and.
P
Before
and
afters
in
some
areas,
I
don't
think
I
have
every
single
hole,
though
well.
G
A
future
you
know
on
these
big
projects.
It
would
be
helpful
for
the
public
to
know
you
know
to
have
Visual
Evidence
of
which
trees
were
removed.
You
know,
especially
how
quickly
they
were
moving
with
the
stump
grinder.
You
know,
there's
very
little
evidence
of
what
trees
were
actually
still
standing,
what
species
and
how
big
they
were.
G
G
You
know
I
think
that
it's
not
out
of
the
question
that
Teresa
removes
that
we're
not
supposed
to
be
removed.
The
other
thing
I'll
bring
up
is
just
the
parking
on
the
on
the
trees.
What
kind
of
recourse
is
happening
with
that
and
how?
How
do
you
all
plan
to
remediate
areas
where
they
were
parking
on
tree
roots.
P
We
addressed
that
at
the
beginning,
whenever
we
had
some
issues
with
Tree
Park
or
parking
under
Roots,
Mark
and
I
have
not
done
it
yet,
but
Mark
agreed
to
come
out
and
look
at
areas
and
see
if
there
are
any
areas
that
looked
like
a
specialty
compacted
to
see.
If
and
what
we
needed
to
do
about
it.
G
Yeah
again
just
for
future
reference,
I
think
that
you
know
if
you're
going
to
have
rules
against
subcontractors
to
not
partner
in
tree
roots.
I
think
that
there
can
be
a
written
contract
saying
this
is
what
happens
every
infraction
that
occurs.
G
You
know
beyond
the
chapter
20
that
Karen
mentioned
I
think
having
us
specifically
because
I
know
you
all
you
know
talked
to
them
beginning
in
the
beginning
of
the
project
about
it,
but
it
continually
happened
and
there's
documented
evidence
from
public
parties
of
you
know
excavators
just
sitting
on
tree
roots
for
days
and
days
and
days
even
towards
the
end
of
the
project.
It
wasn't
just
in
the
beginning.
So
my
suggestion,
okay.
N
Some
of
the
questions
you
had
earlier
shot
on
about
the
Contracting
process
and
taking
the
low
bid
and
and
that
sort
of
thing
I
can't
speak
completely
about
Chris's
managing
of
the
project.
But,
as
somebody
who
has
you
know
put
out
contracts
before
and
had
people
put
in
quotes
you'd
you
don't
always
have
everybody
you
would
like
to
put
in
a
quote.
Do
so
and
some
of
the
quotes
you
get
are
way
higher
for
good
work
than
other
people's
quotes
for
good
work.
N
Unless
I
guess,
we
were
to
establish
that,
as
at
the
front
end
of
a
contract,
I'm
not
sure
how
you
could
force
Somebody,
To
You
Know
retain
staff
that
they
had.
You
know
they
weren't
necessarily
intending
to
employ
and
say
you
will
have
to
have
this
person
working
for
you
now
full
time.
You
know
I,
don't
know
how
to
Force
somebody
for
somebody's
company
to
do
that.
N
That's
why
they
pursued
getting
Consulting
arborists
to
help
them
with
the
with
the
process
and
based
on
what
I
saw
on
a
group
text
responsible,
arborists
were
reached
out
to
and
they
didn't
participate
in
the
process.
Maybe
it
would
have
been
beneficial
for
them
to
do
so,
but
you
can't
force
people
to
participate
in
the
project.
G
Yeah
I'm
not
saying
you
have
to
force
people
to
participate,
but
I
think
the
city
should
be
held
as
the
gold
standard
of
how
to
treat
trees,
and
this
is
definitely
not
the
gold
standard
and
it
might
be
something
to
consider
in
the
future.
If
there
aren't
qualified
people
applying
to
have
been
the
job,
maybe
the
job
should
be
reconsidered.
N
Well,
when
you're
trying
to
get
a
a
job
done,
and
you
have
a
lifespan
on
the
money,
that's
available
to
do
it
you're
going
to
have
to
spend
that
money
while
you
have
it
and
do
the
best
you
can
to
do
the
best
work
you
can
with
that
money,
but
I
think
maybe
our
expectations
about
how
things
you
know
should
be
or
must
be
or
whatever
how
we
envision
them
is
not
necessarily
how
things
always
work
out.
N
N
Looking
at
the
the
aftermath
from
the
pruning,
we
were
getting
people
slapping
us
on
the
back,
telling
us
how
much
more
they
appreciated
the
work
having
been
done
at
the
golf
course,
and
they
were
listened
to
I've
been
trying
to
manage
situations
over
there
with
pruning.
That
was
pretty
strict.
N
You
know
obviously
knots
in
the
eyes
of
an
arborist
and,
like
I
said:
I
was
not
happy
with
the
printing
Cuts
I
was
I,
saw
on
The
Oaks
on
the
back
nine,
it
turned
my
stomach
looking
at
a
lot
of
them,
but
as
far
as
satisfying
the
customers,
the
citizens
I
think
we
made
up
way
more
citizens
happy
with
the
project
and
it's
not
even
complete.
Yet
then
we
made
unhappy.
G
Well,
I
hear
you
and
I
know
you
all
did
your
best,
but
I
hope
that
you
all
learn
from
what
happened
here
and,
and
it
doesn't
happen
again.
G
A
F
F
F
Obviously,
of
course
it
is
bigger,
consider
I
got
it
a
bigger
consideration,
but
we're
when
I
was
on
Council.
We
were
losing
money
hand
over
fist
on
that
Golf,
Course
and
and
then
we
got
a
contractor.
Who
apparently
is
making
some
money
on
it,
but
we're
we're
doing
damage
to
our
tree
canopy
to
satisfy
a
small
group
of
people
who
like
to
golf,
and
why
really
why
I
I
totally
don't
get
that
I
mean
okay,
it's
a
classic
Golf
Course
by
some
famous
developer
or
something,
but
it's
not
benefiting
the
city.
F
P
Round
is
something
like
24
around
compared
to
like
70
or
80,
at
the
Grove
Park,
and
even
in
the
60s
down
at
the
Broadmoor
and
yeah.
It
is
a
designed
by
a
world-class
golf
architect
and
but
when
Pope
came
in
so
the
city
was
losing
a
ton
of
money
on
it
when
you're
in
Council
and
then
I
think
your
Council
voted
to
bring
Pope
in
as
the
lessee,
and
they
were
making
a
little
bit
of
money
on
there.
P
So
that
course
will
constantly
have
turf
improvements,
youth
programming
improvements,
all
these
various
things
and
will
become
a
self-sustaining
entity,
which
then,
in
theory
reduces
the
need
for
City
to
put
input
money
into
the
project,
which
then
frees
up
money
for
other
things.
Like
I,
don't
know,
funding
in
urban
Forester,
something
like
that.
Thanks.
B
You
all
right
well,
if
I
could
attempt
to
sum
up.
First
of
all,
thank
you
Chris
for
meeting
with
us
and
talking
to
us-
and
you
know
this
group.
Obviously
we
are
here
for
the
trees.
So
that's
what
you're
going
to
hear
about
so
I
do
think
it's
important
to
have
the
conversation
and
take
it
forward
so
that
the
city
can
do
better
and
learn
from
those
mistakes,
and
you
know
hopefully
remedy
some
of
those
that
that
did
happen
so
Mark.
B
We
will
look
forward
to
hearing
what
the
director
of
Public
Works
says
about
possible
recourse
with
the
contractor.
I
think
that
would
be
important
to
at
least
you
know,
push
that
up
and
see
where
it
can
go.
B
Lastly,
on
the
golf
course
I,
then
this
is
just
me
again,
I'm
just
going
to
say
this
as
a
citizen
that
I
I
hear
all
the
concerns.
It
troubles
me
to
pit
trees
against
anything
and
I
think
that
we
can
have
a
better
conversation
by
putting
these
things
together.
The
fact
that
we
have
a
golf
course
with
trees
on
it
I
think
they
can
come
together
rather
than
separate.
So
again,
that's
my
personal
soapbox
on
that
point
there,
but
that
Recreation
is
important
in
my
mind.
B
So
anyway,
that's
all
I'm
gonna
say,
but
thank
you
Chris
for
letting
us
know
where
we're
at
with
that,
and
we
do
look
forward
to
the
tree
planting
plan.
B
All
right:
well,
thanks
all
right.
So
last
thing
on
Old
business
is
the
missile
missing
middle
housing
task
force
that
just
got
started
up
haven't
met
yet
the
first
meeting
will
be
April
lose
the
26th
I'll
be
the
representative.
Currently
Patrick
is
the
backup,
but
we
might
have
to
change
that
because,
if
he's
already
representing
another
group
and
if
he
has
to
vote
as
a
backup
that
would
get
weird
so
we'll
talk
to
you
all
about
that.
B
If
we
need
to
change
our
our
backup
plan,
but
nothing
new
there
I'll,
let
you
know
we
haven't
had
the
first
meeting
yet,
but
I'll
fill
you
in
on
next
month.
So
for
new
business,
we
need
to
talk
about
July,
because
currently
our
July
meeting
is
July
4th.
So
obviously
we
will
not
be
meeting
that
date.
Nancy
did
you
come
up
with
some
options
for
us.
I
I
actually
came
up
with
I
think
it
was.
This
is
I.
Don't
have
it
right
in
front
of
me
I
believe
it
was
the
17th
through
the
26th
of
July
I
believe
it
was
it
was.
It
was
on
a
Tuesday,
so
I
kept
it
around
a
Tuesday,
but
the
17th
or
26th,
and
there
wasn't
anything
scheduled
on
the
on
the
planner
or
so.
B
I
18Th
yeah,
maybe
it
was
whatever
those
two
Tuesdays
are
at
the
end
of
the
month-
is
what
I
was
looking
at
gotcha.
B
Well,
I
will
personally
be
gone
both
of
those
but
I,
don't
know
if
someone
else
wants
to
take
over
but
yeah
so
that
so
the
other
optional
C.
So
we
have
the
June
meeting
June
6th
and
then
personally
I
don't
know
you
know.
Obviously
it's
gonna
be
summer.
We're
gonna
have
a
hard
time
meeting
everyone's
schedule
for
me:
it'd
be
better
to
move
the
July
meeting
forward
rather
than
back
because
then
August
also
gets
busy
with
last
minute
summer.
Vacations
and
things
like
that.
So.
F
Is
Tuesday
delimited
by
staff?
Is
that
why
Tuesday.
A
B
Think
that
was
part
of
the
thought
there
I
don't
know
about
June
27th
going
actually
the
week
before
our
usual
meeting
I,
don't
know
if
there's
conflicts
for
the
city
on
that
date
or
the
11th
again.
For
me,
those
are
good
but
I'll
be
gone.
That
last
couple
weeks
of
July.
J
F
Late
late
June
makes
more
sense,
depending
on
what
we
have
in
terms
of
alternative
compliance.
A
B
So
how
about
this
so
city?
Folks?
If
you
want
to
look
into
it,
and
let
us
know
if
one
of
those
dates
would
work
appreciate
that,
thank
you
all
right.
So
that's
July
meeting
date
all
right.
Lastly,
on
new
business,
hopefully
I'll
saw
the
announcement
of
this,
but
I
think
we
did.
We
talk
about
it.
B
Last
week,
last
month
the
municipal
climate
action
plan
that
the
department
of
sustainability
had
created
they
they
worked
with
contractor
I
believe
on
this,
but
it
was
adopted
by
city
council
at
one
of
their
last
meetings.
So
it's
freshly
been
minted
and
approved
by
city
council.
B
We
just
wanted
to
go
over
it
briefly.
Some
of
the
key
points,
because
there
are
pieces
in
here
that
relate
to
trees
before
I
get
too
far
Nancy
go
ahead.
J
B
The
11th,
thank
you
all
right
back
to
the
municipal
climate
action
plan.
So
the
way
it's
set
up
is
there
are
three
goals
and
it's
linked
here
in
the
agenda.
So
if
you
want
to
look
at
it
three
goals,
you
know
sort
of
broad
buckets
that
the
rest
of
the
focus
areas
are
created
around
so
goal.
One
city
owned
assets
are
resilient,
sustainable
and
efficient
goal.
Two
sustainability
and
climate
priorities
are
embedded
in
City
operations,
participation
and
decision
making
and
goal
three.
B
B
I
can't
remember
where
that
summary
was.
If
anybody
wants
to
guide
me
on
that.
Oh
here
we
go
activities
so
specifically
number
18,
so
these
are
activities
around
the
goal.
Activity
number
18
is
utilize.
Urban
forestry
practices
on
city
land
in
priority
neighborhoods
to
reduce
heat
island
impacts
and
sequester
carbon.
So
that's
good
news
right.
It's
like
written
right
in
there
city
council
voted
on
this.
This
is
now
a
priority
and
an
action
item
so
as
we're
in
particular
talking
about
our
budget
requests.
We
can
point
right
to
this.
B
How
does
an
urban
Forest
master
plan
an
inventory
meet
these
goals?
We
can
make
a
Clear
Connection
there.
I
also
argue,
although
they
did
not
I
believe
write
it
in
I
have
not
read
every
page
yet,
but
goal
number
one
talking
about
City
assets,
where'd
it
go.
Assets
are
resilient,
sustainable
and
efficient.
The
modern
tree
inventories
are
associated
with
software
and
data
management
systems
that
can
assign
each
tree
actual
numerical
value.
B
You
know
monetary
value
can
quantify
benefits
to
the
community
to
Habitat
and
storm
water,
so
we
can
also
make
the
pitch
that
an
inventory
combined
with
the
appropriate
software
and
data
would
be
a
way
for
the
city
to
Monitor
and
meet
the
asset
school
as
well.
So
to
some
key
points
there
I
don't
know.
If
anyone
had
a
chance
to
look
through,
it
has
any
other
pieces
they
want
to
highlight
or
any
questions.
B
I'm
going
to
make
you
all
mean
person,
so
I
can
get
you
to
talk
all
right
so
also
when
you
do
look
through
there.
You
know
if
we
have
any
questions
for
the
office
of
sustainability,
I
invited
them.
They
were
busy.
It
was
a
last
minute
request,
but
they
are
available.
If
we
had
questions
they
said
just
send
them
up
and
they'll
address
them.
B
B
C
C
Would
you
like
to
say
anything
about
your
your
background
or
how
the
the
first
three
weeks
have
been.
R
Yeah
well
my
background.
I
grew
up
in
High
Point,
North
Carolina
and
recently
moved
to
Asheville
from
rural
South
Carolina
a
couple
years
ago
and
I
attended
NC
State
and
got
my
Master's
in
Horticultural
science.
My
thesis
project
was
a
forestry
project
and
I've
always
wanted,
to
put
my
degree
to
use
to
help
the
environment
and
help
the
communities
and
so
far
this
is
my
fifth
week
and
we
had
our
first
Nursery
work
day
today
and
it
was.
C
Thanks
Sarah,
we're
very
excited
for
you
to
be
here,
and
time
is
flying
because
I
thought
you've
been
here
for
a
shorter
amount
of
time.
But
then
you
have
but
we're
so
happy
that
you're
on
the
team
and
will
eventually
be
the
Greenworks
representative
for
the
urban
forestry
commission.
Welcome
to.
C
Thank
you
and
I
hope
we
get
a
chance
to
meet
all
the
folks
who
are
here
or
at
least
get
to
talk
to
folks
as
we
get
get
you
settled
in
to
your
role
and
other
big
news
that
I'm
happy
to
share
with
the
commission
related
to
climate
resilience.
Actually
is
that
Asheville
has
been
selected
as
one
of
the
participating
cities
in
an
urban
heat
island
mapping,
study
that
is
being
put
together
through
NOAA,
the
National,
Oceanic
and
Atmospheric
Association
I
think.
C
Is
it
the
acronym
and
we
are
partnering
with
the
office
of
sustainability
at
the
city
of
Asheville
and
DMACC
and
others
to
do
a
heat
study,
mapping
study
in
the
summer
so
probably
that
third
week
of
July
sometime,
we
plan
to.
C
They
were
silent.
The
whole
thing
as
soon
as
I
could
start
talking
start
barking.
So
anyway,
we're
we'll
have
a
huge
group
of
volunteers
between
60
to
100
years
going
now
three
times
on
that
one
day
we
tried
to
pick
the
hottest
day
of
the
summer
to
record
Heat
at
ground
level,
so
this
will
enhance
the
level
of
detail
that
we
have
for
heat
across
the
city,
eventually
tying
into
the
city's
climate,
Justice
map,
the
Urban,
Tree,
canopy,
study
and
other
layers.
C
B
Thank
you,
and
just
everyone
knows
you
know
it's
easy
to
sign
up
for
updates
from
Asheville
GreenWorks
I
send
regular
emails
and
I'm
going
to
do
a
Shameless
pitch.
While
we
have
a
minute
on
my
Amazon,
it's
very
easy
to
hook
up
your
Amazon
smile
so
that
a
portion
of
your
purchases,
if
you
use
Amazon,
go
as
charitable
donations
to
actual
Greenworks.
So
that's
what
I
do
so
just
thought
any
other.
F
Yeah
I
I
thought
for
almost
two
decades
to
create
a
park
downtown
across
from
the
from
the
Civic
Center
across
from
the
Basilica
and
the
final
plan
that
the
city
of
Asheville
paid
350
thousand
dollars
for
the
final
or
the
current
anyway
plan
to
create
a
park.
There
included
a
building
in
part
of
in
part
of
that
area
where
the
elders
and
Sage
Garden
is
these
days
and
Nina
tovish,
who
was
a
a
city
council
candidate
in
the
last
election,
has
come
up
with
an
idea
for
the
building
piece.
F
The
building
that
would
fit
into
there
could
be
a
climate
activist
Center,
a
building
that
would
be
a
a
symbolic
and
practical
Alternative
Energy
building
with
educational
spaces
and
all
and
and
I
I
am
hugely
supportive
of
her
idea
that
this
that
that
we
could
help
establish
Asheville
as
a
climate,
conscious,
community
and
so
I
just
I'm
just
offering
that
up
you're
going
to
hear
more
about
it
coming
up
in
the
future,
but
I
mean
that
would
be
very
Asheville.
In
my
view,
we
would
keep
us
feel
weirdly
concerned
about
the
environment.
F
B
Have
in
my
little
notebook
there
is
a
line
right
here
that
I
think
a
recommendation
to
develop
the
so-called
pit
of
despair
with
green
space
and
tree
canopy
would
be
an
appropriate
recommendation
for
this
group
to
make
so
I.
A
B
G
You
can
question
you
mentioned
about
meeting
in
person.
Is
that
is
that
up
for
discussion
in
the
coming
months
or
what,
where,
where
do
we
stand
on
that
just
curious.
B
This
is
not
anything
famous,
no
I,
just
I,
really
thinking
back
to
our
meeting
our
retreat
in
January
and
I.
Just
personally
believe
our
level
of
discussion
and
engagement
is
so
much
better
that
and
that's
the
only
reason
I
totally
understand
the
driving
around
and
all
of
that
maybe
Cecil
will
have
to
pick
us
all
up
in
his
EV
and
we
can
carpool,
but
no,
we
are
not
able
to
change
our
current
setup
until
the
end
of
the
year.
D
We
could
have
a
like
a
publicly
held
Retreat
restaurant,
though,
or
something
right
so
already.
B
So
you
know
this
is
the
third
time.
Actually
we
brought
this
up
so
we
did
not.
Have
we
usually
have
a
social?
You
know
just
a
social
lunch.
Well,
I
guess
we
did
briefly.
There
was
only
like
three
of
us
there,
so
I
don't
know
if
we
can
call
it
that,
but
anyway
we
usually
have
like
a
social
lunch
in
the
winter,
but
you
know
there's
nothing
that
keeps
us
from
having
another
one.
B
Whenever
we
want
so
yeah,
maybe
I'll
send
something
around
see
if
we
can
find
a
date
to
get
together
under
a
tree
and
have
some
picnic
lunch,
so
hi
Debbie
great
so
just
to
to
re-engage
and
get
together.
So
that
would
be
you
know
no
official
business
kind
of
thing,
but
but
we
can
do
that
so
yeah
Zoe.
E
B
B
Well,
look
at
this.
We
are
right
on
time
excellent.
So
we
do
not
need
a
roll
call
vote
to
adjourn.
I
just
need
to
know
if
there's
any
opposition
to
a
journey.
B
Long
as
you
don't
oppose,
then
we're
good,
so
otherwise
we
are
adjourned.
Thank
you.
Everyone.
We
will
see
you
in
May.