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A
Three
or
more
divisions
we
have
so
we'll
make
it
in
the
spot.
A
First,
with
phone
calls.
B
A
A
I
do
have
one
minor
benefit
to
those
only
review
that,
should
I
get
one
of
the
stuff
just
presumed
that
they
emotionally.
A
A
A
You've
got
to
see
the
footprint
and
the
layout
is
kind
of
similar
to
what's
currently
there
today,
as
mentioned,
the
proposed
project
would
involve
the
demolition
of
the
vacant,
kmart
site
and
other
stores
full
redevelopment
of
the
site
due
to
the
size
of
the
project,
which
is
about
150
000
square
feet
between
all
the
different
buildings
and
conditions.
Zoning
to
the
commercial
expansion
district
is
required
in
addition
to
the
proposed
ingles
grocery
store.
A
There
are
four
retail
spaces
proposed,
as
well
as
a
gas
fueling
station
in
total
421
parking
spaces
proposed
and
three
driveway
access
points,
which
here
are
what
currently
exists
there.
Today,
japan
avenue
louisiana
to
the
west
and
hawkins
lake
to
the
east,
the
sidewalks
proposed
very
very
considerably
from
the
10
feet,
required
on
the
exterior
of
the
site
and
eight
feet
required
on
the
internal
portions
of
the
site.
A
The
project
is
proposing
that
along
pat
avenue,
they
have
new
eight
foot
wide
sidewalk
with
a
five
foot,
five
planting
strip
to
be
installed,
and
that
is
a
kind
of
a
constrained
right
way,
a
front
edge.
There
give
him
the
location
of
a
water
line,
recents,
which
kind
of
precludes
the
existence
of
a
retaining
wall
nearby,
which
might
be
needed
given
slope
of
the
environment.
If
you
were
to
make
a
much
wider
sidewalk,
so
eight
feet
wide
along
there.
A
A
The
east
symbolic
is
north
of
the
site
that
would
connect
to
the
neighborhood
to
the
north
within
the
segment
itself.
The
sunblocks
are
mostly
five
or
six
feet
wide,
with
the
exception
of
a
10
foot
wide
sidewalk,
which
is
proposed
along
the
north
of
this
east
west
access
drive
it's
a
pleasure
as
far
as
other
improvements
to
the
site.
A
Two
existing
bus
stops
on
both
sides
of
north
louisiana
avenue
are
proposed
to
be
improved
to
bus
shelters,
but
it's
just
apparently
a
bench
on
the
west
side,
and
that
will
be
done
in
cooperation
with
the
flooding
property.
A
Other
requirements
based
on
the
commercial
expansions
that
are
districts
are
required
and
they
are
comply
with
with
the
plan.
These
include
landscaping,
which
are
street
trees
and
parking
lots,
screening,
building,
impacts,
creating
open
space
requirements
and
also
tree
candy
preservation,
which
is
complied
with.
The
existing
tree
canopy
to
the
north
of
the
site,
which
won't.
A
Here
are
some
renderings
of
the
proposed
market
and
retail
spaces.
The
top
one
is
top
up
front
view
of
the
market,
as
as
you
can
see
from
the
parking
lot,
there's
a
match
on
the
left
here.
So
the
side
continues
from
there
to
here,
and
then
this
is
kind
of
where
that
kink
and
the
elevation
is
where
it's
offset
somewhat
with
additional
retail
spaces,
and
these
are
the
size.
A
A
So,
as
far
as
the
project's
compliance
with
the
living
asheville
comprehensive
plan
staff
finds
that
the
project
is
partly
consistent
with
the
future
land
use
map
designation
of
urban
center.
A
The
urban
center
is
more
imagined
as
a
mixed-use
high-density
type
future
development
style.
It
has
a
significant
amount
of
presidential
multi-family
residential,
in
particular,.
A
The
urban
center
does
speak
a
lot
about
making
a
place
more
walkable
and
transit
friendly,
so
this
project
adds
sidewalk
connections
to
existing
neighborhoods
and
through
the
site
and
also
improves
transit
amenities
with
the
improvement
of
the
bus
stops
to
the
shelters.
A
So,
therefore,
that's
kind
of
a
partly
consistent
analysis
of
the
project
against
the
conference
plan
project
also
supports
the
number
of
goals
in
the
plan.
So
project
support
is
the
development
and
redevelopment
of
sites
that
are
fully
utilized,
such
as
this
one.
Today
status
is
accessible
and
well-connected
commercial
nodes
and
eliminates
gaps,
city-wide
sidewalk
network,
while
prioritizing
construction
in
underserved
meetings.
A
The
project
is
not
in
any
specific
design
review
area,
so
it
has
only
been
reviewed
by
any
technical
review
committee,
which
was
which
approved
with
conditions
project
back
on
january
10.,
and
there
are
a
number
of
conditions
and
technical
modifications
for
this
additional
zoning
for
this
project,
so
number
of
them
related
to
the
sidewalks.
As
previously
discussed,
they
will
be
blessed
at
the
tech
feed
wide,
exterior
and
ap
wide
interior
site
requirements
has
listed
there.
A
Also,
the
modification
for
the
parking
lot
would
be
located
in
front
of
the
buildings.
Fronting
the
primary
street
loading
births
limited
to
two
for
the
equals
market
and
one
per
each
future
development
on
site.
It
has
over
twenty
thousand
square
feet
now.
That's
a
reduction
of
what's
currently
required
in
the
commercial
expansion
district.
A
B
A
So
the
commercial
expansion
district
basically
states
that
bike
lanes
are
required.
It's
somewhat
of
a
they're
required
to
be
built
to
access
or
into
the
development.
So
this
project
is
not
proposing
those
bike
lanes.
Speaking
with,
I
guess
transportation
department
during
the
technical
review,
the
project
they
didn't
raise
any
issues
with
that
there
are
not
currently.
A
A
Directly,
I
know
from
a
transit
service
planning
standpoint.
Typically,
a
service
to
specific
projects
or
developments
does
not
preferred
because
it
has
a
lot
of
extra
routing
time.
So
so
these
two
bus
stops
service
routes
that
are
currently
on
north
louisiana
avenue.
A
A
A
A
Yes,
that's
correct,
so
the
city
faces
its
required
number
of
off
street
parking
spaces
based
on
different
formula
depending
on
the
proposed
use
of
property.
In
this
case
it's
commercials.
Therefore,
it's
based
on
the
square
footage
of
the
proposed
buildings-
and
this
is
based
on.
I
can't
remember
the
exact
number
of
my
head,
but
divided
by
150
thousand
square
feet
by
300
square
feet.
B
Just
back
to
the
parking
and
the
bus,
so
since
we
didn't
work
with
transit
on
this,
we
don't
have
any
idea
like
how
many
people
actually
like
ride
that
bus
area
or
like
utilize,
the
bus
stops.
So
we
wouldn't
know
like
how
much
this
would
impact
them.
I
guess.
B
How
many
people
that
take
the
bus
to
like
go
use
that
grocery
store?
Like
you
know,
I
want
to
know
how
many
people
like
going
to
get
their
groceries
there
so
like
how
many
extra
minutes
would
this
add
on
if
we
were
able
to
like
make
this
a
nice
bus
stop
and
like
go
in
there,
because
that's
what
we're
essentially
trying
to
do
is
to
add
this
into
like
a
livable
shopping,
mall
area
for
them.
A
Bus
stops
and
they
got
their
input
about.
You
know
what
they
would
want
to
see
in
the
future.
They
agreed
that
improving
bus
stops
to
shelters
would
be
their
preferred
solution,
so
we
didn't
ask
them
explicitly
to
consider
the
idea
of
rerouting
the
bus
stop
into
the
site,
but
they
did
not
raise
that
view.
From
suggestion.
A
A
Mr
members
of
the
commission,
it's
a
real
privilege
to
see
you
all
in
person
for
the
first
time
in
the
city
like
two
years
I
nice
to
be
here
nice
to
see
you.
Well
I'm
sorry
with
us
as
well.
I
hope
he's
watching.
A
So
I
represent
english
markets
and
I
want
to
answer
the
first
couple
of
questions
bust
out:
the
location,
the
original
site
plan
and
we've
been
working
on
this
for
years.
I'll
talk
about
that
in
a
minute
I
actually
called
for
the
bus
not
to
be
interior
to
the
site,
but
it
was
city
staff
and
the
transportation
department.
That
said
no,
we
would
get
out
there,
so
we
would
be
open
a
little
bit,
but
that's
not
where
they
want
it.
So
the
charging.
D
A
Good
question:
there
will
be
a
right
now,
a
single
password
with
two
charging
ports,
but
the
infrastructure
will
be
there
so
that,
if
there's
demand
there
will
be
a
huge
demand,
they
can
easily
add
on
additional
pedestals
and
additional
charging
stations
in
the
future.
The
the
bike
lanes
yeah
again,
this
has
been
an
overlooked
island
with
the
transportation
department
and
because
I
guess
there
is,
there
are
no
bike
lanes
and
there's
just
nowhere
for
cyclists
to
go
other
than
where
cars
go,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
the
drive
lines
established.
A
It
was
just
sort
of
a
consensus.
They
didn't
kind
of
make
sense
this
particular
site
and
then,
in
terms
of
parking
spaces,
you're
right,
mr
department,
we're
protecting
the
total
number
of
department
stations
that
the
city
would
require.
We
think
we'll
have
more
than
enough
parking.
Our
original
plan
called
the
fall
around.
We
have
what
says
the
city
worked
with
us
to
try
to
move
sidewalks
around
and
islands
around
and
try
to
make
this
kind
of
a
more.
A
A
The
open
space
we're
required
to
have
15
percent
of
the
total
parcel
when
we're
proposing
17.6
the
cycle.
Tennis
will
explain,
really
have
to
do
with
just
logistical
realities,
all
along
pattern.
The
city
is
replacing
the
city
water
line
and
there
would
be
no
way
to
build
a
10-foot,
wide
sidewalk
and
accommodate
that
one
and
then
going
up
the
sidewalk
that
goes
up.
A
Just
so
you
know
that's
a
pretty
significant
expense.
That's
going
to
be
really
great
for
the
neighborhood,
because,
right
now,
if
you've
ever
been
out
there
there's
a
road
that
goes
up
up
there
and
it's
fairly
steep,
but
now
they're
going
to
have
a
safe
walkway
with
a
railing
where
they
can
come
down
that
sidewalk.
That
neighborhood
can
access
and
that's
that's,
not
that's
going
to
require
rotating
walls.
So
it's
going
to
be
a
really
nice
hand
in
the
neighborhood.
I
think
this
one
of
you
had
a
question
about
you
know.
A
Use
of
the
bus
is
certainly
a
good
question,
but
also
used
by
pedestrians.
Folks
that
live
in
this
community
will
be
able
to
walk
there
easily
and
we
have
been
in
the
hall
england
since
been
in
all
the
dialogue
with
the
neighborhood
about
this
project.
They
didn't
like
it.
Hopefully
you
had
a
chance
to
see
some
of
the
letters
that
were
submitted,
including
a
letter
from
him,
a
neighborhood
council
and
members
of
that
council.
I
think,
may
even
be
here
tonight.
If
you
want
to
hear
from
them.
A
A
You
know
rejuvenation
of
this
really
dilapidated
site,
but
also
that
will
hopefully
improve
the
safety
of
that
area,
because
the
history
of
this,
as
you
all
know
you
know,
kmart
was
a
bustling
business
until
they
went
bankrupt
and
they
never,
they
opened
up,
tried
to
reopen
for
a
while
and
then
they
shuttered
it
pretty
much
permanently,
and
although
ingles
bought
this
property
in
the
summer
of
2019,
because
the
city
was
looking
at
it
for
reasoning
purposes,
english
was
stopped
in
its
tracks
from
its
redevelopment
effort
the
site
for
all
of
those
years.
A
What
has
happened
is
a
lot
of
people
that
are
not
legally
allowed
to
be
on
that
site.
I've
been
on
that
site.
There
have
been
repeated,
breaking
and
enterings
into
the
building.
There's
been
drug
use,
there's
been
criminal
activity.
Angles
has
probably
been
out
there
well
over
two
dozen
times
in
the
last
three
years
to
prepare
that
building
make
it
safe
and
deal
with.
Those
issues
came
up
to
be
dealing
with
that
as
well.
It's
a
real
problem.
It's
a
safety
problem
for
that
community.
A
It's
the
same
city
and
the
sooner
we
can
get
going
on
this
project.
The
better
the
plan
is
long-range
plan
is
to
move
out
to
get
the
session
and
move
out
of
that
school.
That's
on
the
corner
of
leicester,
highland
patent,
which
is
was
built
in
1995.
It's
an
older
style
score
move
into
this
nice,
state-of-the-art
neighborhood,
so
it
looks
similar
to
the
one
farther
down
smoking
park
highway.
A
You
know,
they've
got
nothing
but
positive
response
from
the
community
to
that
location.
We
think
that'll
be
similar
here.
It
will
help.
A
Seeing
happen
in
pockets,
but
this
is
a
big
site
and
it's
it's
been
kind
of
an
eyesore
for
a
while.
Unfortunately,
this
is
an
opportunity
to
make
it
better.
So
you
know
it's,
we
think
it's
a
great
project
and
we
think
it
will
bring
this
side
a
lot
and
we
really
hope
that
you
improve
with
me
today.
Are
john
cox
he's
a
civil
engineer,
he's
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have
about
psychology
of
john
spade
who
does
real
estate
development
and
acquisition
he's
here?
A
A
A
A
A
Or
go
directly
to
funding
the
most
sidewalls,
there
is
definitely
a
need-
and
I
don't
know
if
it's
easy
to
flow
on
the
google
map
at
this
time.
B
A
A
Is
like
b5,
that
is
just
a
need
right
there,
so
I
mean
we
can
certainly
change
the
administration
department
and
see
if
that
is
a
priority
on
their
list
projects
for
the
capital
improvement
plan,
and
they
obviously
have
multi-year
planning
efforts.
Obviously,
but
basically
the
cost
of
the
sidewalk
is
way
more
than
you
know
again
or.
E
B
Another
question:
okay,
so
one
of
the
books,
I
was
the
department
space
because
it's
428
episodes
of
249
spaces
required
project
and
then
at
the
bottom
it
says
so
report.
This
is
421.
A
B
A
B
A
A
What
discussions
have
you
had
with
gop
on
that
crosswalk
across
louisiana
wondering
if
that
needs
to
be
a
high
news?
It
shows.
A
A
That
pedestrian
experience
is
just
so
people
work,
it's
more
or
less.
People
know
that
that's
what
that's
great
right
is
that
something
that
you
have
discussions
about
being
favorable
to,
so
we
have
not.
A
Something
that
we
made
at
least
to
have
one
crossing
that
basically
smoked.
Maybe
traffic
down
east
west
yeah
for
definitely
I
would
not
want
to
head
up
because
the
great
change
as
you
go
into
that
parking
lot.
This
could
change
very
significantly
there,
so
as
well
as
to
the
south.
So
we
definitely.
A
A
E
Yeah,
I
I
feel
like
trucks
can
go.
E
Curbs
and
all
kinds
of
stuff,
but
we
don't
see
that
as
an
issue,
but
I'm
kind
of
disappointed,
because
we
had
the
urban
center
of
discussion
about
the
liberal
community
and
tearing
down
the
buildings
made
this
huge
expense
to
put
back
something
pretty
much
the
same,
and
the
parking
lot
doesn't
really
have
any
sort
of
pedestrian
pathways
through
it.
It
basically
has
landscapes
portions
up
against
dry
miles.
E
I
just
wonder
if
there
was
cost
analysis
with
you
know,
keeping
the
buildings
running
and
maybe
eyes
were
different
buildings
on
the
site
versus
incorporators.
For
that
multi-family
medicine
petition.
A
Very
similar,
so
it's
a
good
question
and-
and
I
don't
know
if
you
had
a
chance
to
see
the
letter
from
the
the
neighbor's
council
that
sort
of
spoke
to
this
question
about
whether
urban
service
appropriated
that
site
adjacent
to
the
neighborhood
nearby.
A
And
this
this
is
from
a
letter
we
have.
We
have
now
been
working
closely
with
county
and
the
city
imagine
for
several
years
directly
with
planning
departments
as
a
neighborhood
council
and
through
in
the
legacy
neighborhoods
coalition,
as
well
as
the
creation
of
the
neighborhood
to
identify
strategies
to
protect
this
important
community
asset
message
that
they
were
put
around
here
and
make
it
less
vulnerable
to
displacement.
A
It's
adjacent
to
the
young
community,
which
is
one
of
the
most
racially
linguistically
different
states.
That's
fashionable
it's
also.
One
of
the
only
neighborhoods
continues
to
have
significant,
naturally
occurring
affordable
housing
in
the
form
of
alarm
parks
for
nearly
40
percent
of
the
neighborhoods
neighbors
preside,
naturally
occurring
in
affordable
housing
against
essential
assets.
A
We
strongly
believe
it
must
be
protected,
as
I
understand
their
concerns-
and
I
didn't
speak
with
them
correctly,
but
it
was
they
conveyed.
These
concerns
about
dental
slutter,
as
well
as
the
city
staff
was
that
they
didn't.
They
didn't
really
want
a
multi-family
brand
new
multi-family
buildings
because
of
the
concern
that
gentrification
on
the
adjacent
that
was
a
concern.
What
they
wanted
was
a
new
usable
nice
grocery
store
with
retail,
that
they
could
access
on
foot
and
that's
what
this
project
will
do
and
it
will
take
a
under
utilized
site.
A
These
buildings
were
built
in
the
1960s,
I
believe
completely
raised.
It
will
now
so
people
with
disabilities
will
be
able
to
access
it
in
the
ways
that
they
can
current
site
because
it
is
sort
of
speaking
so
you
know.
Is
it
the
vision
of
urban
center?
That
the
city
has
where
originally
no,
it
isn't,
but
we
think
it's
still
a
good
use
of
the
site.
I
think
the
neighbors
think
it's
a
good
use
of
the
site
and
the
church
agrees,
and
you
know
that
the
pastor
is
here
today
to
speak.
A
A
E
D
A
C
A
How
willing
is
your
applicant
to
to
formally
make
an
agreement
that
that
I.e
have
it
as
a
condition
that
angles
will
work
directly
with
those
communities
to
bring
in
retail?
That
certainly
needs
those
communities
and
also
the
second
second
condition
that
they
would
provide
x,
number
of
small
business
spaces
to
local
small
businesses
in
that
neighborhood.
A
I
know
that
that
is
something
that
was
discussed
when
you're
discussing
it
in
some
conversations
that
I've
asked
administrators
and
people
over
the
years
of
looking
at
this
from
the
urban
centers,
knowing
that
this
was
coming,
it's
like
this
has
purchased
it.
I'm
just
hearing
you
have
your
very
first
discussion.
A
A
As
a
result
of
those
dialogues,
they
can't
guarantee
that
they
don't
they
don't
they
don't
even
know
that
we
think
it
will
be
a
lot
of
demand
for
these
retail
spaces,
but
aging
as
a
condition
is
too
complicated
to
put
into
it.
So
I
don't
think
they
would
agree
with
them.
Would
they
agree
to
explore
the
possibility
of
smaller
spaces
within
those
individual
units?
I
think
they
would.
I
would
talk
with
mr
state
about.
A
A
B
And
I
would
personally
like
to
see
like
a
few
less
parking
spots
and
a
little
more
green
space.
I
think
you're
shaking
your
head,
but
I
have
a
car
and
I
like
to
drive
in
this
town.
So
you
know
I
could
walk
to
the
grocery
store
and
get
my
groceries
and
come
home.
I
mean
it
would
be
great.
So
that's
just
a
few
of
my
comments.
A
Please
seth
would
just
recommend
that
make
that
a
condition
of
being
fruitful
without
consulting
with
art
might
be
problematic.
The
worst
last
thing
I
want
to
see
is
a
really
nice
bus,
stop
or
shelter
in
a
place
that
won't
be
serviced
by
them,
necessarily,
certainly
if
you
could
explore
that,
I
just
started
making
a
condition
of
the
approval
would
be
the
best
intent.
A
A
Back
to
I
would
love
to
find
a
way
to
get
a
little
bit
more
community
public
benefit.
Out
of
this,
mr
stevens,
as
you
said,
these
buildings
were
built
upon
the
gis.
A
I
I
guess
you
know
what
I'm
trying
to
say
if
I
right
now,
I'm
not
in
favor
of
this.
I'm
really
close,
I'm
not
sure
how
my
other
commission
numbers
are
feeling.
I
don't
know
if
this
is
something
you
know
and
see
if
it's
something
you
want
to
take
some
more
time
with
sort
of
do
some
of
these
things
or
not
I'll
leave
it
at
that,
and
I
appreciate.
A
D
A
E
B
Internal
to
the
project,
if
if
the
city's
transportation
department
agrees
to
that,
because
england
agrees
to
it
right
so,
but
we
don't
want
to
put
your
conditions
and
ops
into
one
of
the.
B
I'll
just
try
to
generate
what
you
said.
Mr
stevens
was
that
the
applicant
will
continue
dialogue
with
the
community
to
identify
local
businesses
that
meet
the
community's
needs
as
tenants.
Local
businesses,
because.
C
E
A
B
E
A
A
Yeah
working
with
since
2018
we've
had
a
couple
zoo
calls
meetings.
They
usually
meet
with
me
representatives
from
burton
street
and
there's
a
founder,
and
then
they
go
back
to
their
neighborhood
meeting.
They
have
one
a
couple
nights
ago
and
what
we've
worked
out
with
them
is
there
was
so
many
letters
actually
not
a
part
of
the
retailers,
because
really
their
support
only
contracted
through
charges.
A
E
A
E
D
A
E
A
A
C
C
A
A
A
A
A
A
C
A
A
A
A
A
A
Ancient,
as
mentioned,
this
is
a
conditional,
exemplary
request
for
private
knowledge
with
commons
property,
which
totaled
it's
two
and
three-quarter
acres.
A
A
So
material
imagery
shows
the
site
in
more
detail.
These
two
buildings
are
all
over
on
this
site.
You
can
see
it's
to
the
west
of
a
relatively
new
aldi's
grocery
store
a
car
wash
to
the
west
and
then
residential
labor
into
the
north.
You
can
see
the
location
near
the
big
box
stores.
A
The
future
land
use
has
identified
the
living
asheville
comprehensive
plant
is
the
corridor
which
discusses
kind
of
areas
that
are
suburban
commercial
character,
but
it
could
evolve
over
time
to
be
more
mixed
use
and
denser,
more
pedestrian
and
trans
friendly.
A
So
this
is
the
layout
of
the
site
you
can
see
located
between
swannanoa
and
governor's
view
roads.
A
A
Site
along
the
governor's
view,
it's
one
of
the
spawning
other
roads
from
the
10
foot
wide
required
side
us
sidewalks.
The
project
is
proposing
five
foot
wide
sidewalls
with
the
ten
foot
wide
planting
strip
internal
to
the
site
are
proposed
sidewalks
of
five
feet
wide,
except
for
the
segment
in
front
of
the
building
along
the
parking
lot,
which
is
proposed
at
10,
feet
wide
and
then
the
segment.
It's
actually
a
path
that
leads
down
to
spawn
over
the
road
is
proposed
energy
wide
as
well.
A
It's
an
ada,
accessible
path
as
far
as
the
slope
goes,
and
this
will
also
lead
to
a
new
bus
shelter.
It's
going
to
be
moved
a
full
hundred
feet
to
the
west
of
current
location.
So
it's
out
of
the
floodway,
which
is
identified
in
blue
here
in
the
southeast
corner
of
the
site,
which
kind
of
constrains
access
from
swan
river
road,
so
the
bus
stop
removed
and
a
new,
concrete
pad
and
bus
shelter
will
be
solved
there.
A
The
project
complies
with
landscaping
and
open
space
standards.
One
modification
that
I'll
mention
later
is
the
relocation
of
street
trees
from
sauna
swan.
Another
river
road
because
of
utility
easements
and
the
prohibition
of
tree
plant
things.
A
Required
of
other
new
planting
or
fee
and
loom,
the
project
will
have
to
base
through
all
vegetation
on
the
site
and
the
project
is
seeking
a
modification
to
a
4
tree.
Canopy
preservation
amounts
which
would
be
achieved
with
new
plantings
on
site
and
they're,
seeking
a
waiver
of
the
fee
and
mood
requirement.
A
Here
are
some
building
elevations
of
the
proposed
project,
the
one
of
the
top
north
elevations,
so
that's
kind
of
facing
governance,
view
road
and
the
parking
lot
different
materials
are
listed
in
the
legends,
but
they'll
basically
be
a
combination
of
signing
and
panel
in
the
form
of
vinyl,
at
least,
but
if
project
costs
allow
for
cement
panels,
it's
not
siding
and
fiber
cement.
A
And
then
the
south
and
west
elevations,
so
the
satellites
will
face
on
and
over
a
road
and
then
the
west
bottom
has
the
different
bays
of
the
building.
That
kind
of
project
in
and
out
from
the
elevations
as
well.
A
Here's
the
building
perspectives,
some
items
that
are
shown
in
the
site
plan
that
I
kind
of
glossed
over
are
things
like
a
proposed
community
garden
and
we've
raised
planting
beds
to
the
southern
side.
There's
also
a
proposed
picnic
area.
You
can
kind
of
make
actually
see
better
here
with
a
kind
of
a
covered
canopy
for
shade
and
also
an
area
for
a
gazebo
that
would
be
to
the
west
of
the
building
as
well.
A
So,
as
far
as
the
projects
review,
consistency
with
the
comprehensive
plan
staff
finds
that
the
project
is
consistent
with
the
future
land
use
map,
which
designates
its
properties
for
the
corridor
by
providing
infill
redevelopment,
which
places
an
emphasis
on
pedestrian,
friendly
amenities
and
infrastructure.
A
Increases
the
supply
of
affordable
housing
and
proximity
to
the
transits
and
parks,
and
also
eliminates
gas
city-wide
sidewalk
network,
especially
where
sidewalks
tie
into
greenways,
also
should
mention
that
the
new
satellite
road
will
allow
for
folks
to
cross
to
access
along
the
road
and
then
across
the
state
and
then
across
switchery
boulevard
bridge
to
according
to
greenway.
A
A
A
This
project
is
also
located
in
the
riverfront
design
district,
specifically
the
schwarze
design
district
and
therefore
it
needed
to
be
reviewed
by
a
design
review
committee,
which
happened
informally
in
march
and
formally
last
month,
april
21st,
and
that
committee
recommended
approval
of
the
project
both
number
of
conditions
they're
listed
there.
It
basically
involves
that
the
building
design
articulated
the
heights
of
the
proposed
materials
more
also
the
heights
of
the
roof
elements.
A
Let
the
building
design
break
up
the
massive
on
the
east
elevation.
Therefore,
the
plants
are
seen
tonight
are
modern,
funded
from
that
design.
Review
committee
approval
based
on
those
conditions
to
respond
to
that.
To
that
view,
they've
gotten
that
on
they
have
a
flat
roof
or
a
low
slope
solution,
whereas
before
with
more
peak
and
hip
groups
and
also
moved
around
the
different
material,
massive
elevations.
A
A
A
No
bike
lanes
are
proposed
into
the
development
and
that
the
required
screen
trees
along
swan
river
road
would
be
relocated
to
the
east
of
the
building
because,
like
utility
eastman
that
exists
there
today.
A
Another
project
main
project
edition
is
that
all
70
units
100
will
be
designated
affordable
for
a
minimum
of
30
years
to
those
earning
an
average
of
60
area
median
income
and
also
looks
at
added
housing
choice,
vouchers.
A
So,
for
those
reasons,
staff
recommends
approval
of
the
proposed
conditional
zone
and
I'll
be
glad
to
answer
any
questions
you
also
may
have
been
here
with
us
tonight.
Thank
you,
mr
confession.
A
Any
questions
or
sad
from
the
commissioner,
mr
congress
request,
will
be
included.
That
was
treatment.
A
I
think,
with
this
project,
asking
considering
the
fact
that
it's
all
affordable
and
a
very
constrained
project
budget
overall,
since.
A
A
And
they're,
basically
planting
as
much
as
they
can
once
you
consider
the
available
space
require
landscaping
and
those
other
developments
so
they're.
So
as
far
as
the
conditions
on
site,
you
know
the
tree
can't
use
kind
of
maxed
out
as
far
as
they
can
replant
that
on
site
and
they're
asking
to
be
made
to
feel
them
as
part
of
the
consideration
of
the
project
as
a
whole.
Okay,
thank
you
and
I
like
the
product,
as
always,
be
able
to.
E
C
A
A
Income
they
have
based
on
any
retirement
funds
or
social
security
or
whatever
that
kind
of
thing,
and
it
would
be
based
on
just
like
this.
Whatever
that
number
was,
as
it
was,
a
salary
or
whatever.
That
would
be
the
consideration,
I
believe
in
average
I
think
the
affordability
of
the
units
could
vary,
but
on
average
they
would
be
at
60
percent
aerating
income.
A
I
think
they're
mostly
bedrooms
there
are.
We
do
the
site
plans,
I
couldn't
hardly
get
four
ones.
I
could
pull
up
too,
but
it's
a
mix
of
ones
and
two,
it's
mostly
ones.
A
So
there
is,
let
me
see
there
is
a
crosswalk
across
the
alleys
driveway
and
across
road.
Currently
there's
nothing
proposed
here.
That's
maintained.
C
B
A
A
Yeah,
I
yeah,
I
don't
think
there
is.
E
A
A
Yeah
so
building
kind
of
fronts
governors
view
road
for
the
most
part
because
there's
site
issues
so
it
it
doesn't
necessarily
look
the
project's
been
designed
in
a
way.
A
Since
that
is
such
a
primary
corridor,
but
given
the
access
issues
in
the
fun
way
located
in
the
southeast
of
the
site,
they
had
to
access
it
from
government
zoo
roads.
They.
B
Shows
elevation
renderings
yeah
in
the
center
there
and
is
there.
C
B
Sort
of
way
that,
like
people
can't
just
come
in
their
park
or
like,
is
there
going
to
be
any
sort
of
like
you
need
to
scan
your
card
or
gate
or
anything
no.
E
A
Mr
paul
president,
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
us
happy
pulling
direct
media.
A
Landscape
requirements
for
retaining
walls,
safety
barriers
and
retaining
walls.
If
you
pull
up
those
renderings
again,
it's
kind
of
that,
it's
the
middle
one.
There.
A
A
I
don't
recall
that
there
is,
it
would
need
to
be
at
least
playing
at
least
30
seconds.
I
think
it's
probably
48,
maybe
and
then
obviously
this
is
going
to
be
a
question
for
the
ipad.
A
So
these
these
new
building
elevations
are
post
the
designs
review
commission
last
week
and
there's
a
great
ground
change,
and
I
don't
know
if
there
is
any
response
from
drc
that
you
even
had
a
chance
to
look
at
this.
You
know.
Certainly
it
is
interesting
public
comments.
I
listen
to
the
meeting
that
was
last
week.
It
certainly
does
bring
some
good
comments,
but
it's
a
pretty
radical
change.
It's
gone
from
something
that
definitely
appeared
more
residential
multi-value.
A
A
little
bit
more,
I
can't
recall
the
exact
requirements
off
the
top
of
my
head.
The
obviously
obtaining
walls
are
based
off
grade
they're
doing
that
sort
of
thing.
I
recall
that
they
might
look
a
little
more
pronounced
in
real
life.
A
A
So
the
drc
has
not
formally
reviewed
this
new
design.
I
did
send
it
out
to
them
to
solicit
any
feedbacks
feedback
from
the
individuals
on
the
committee
in
advance.
This
meeting
was
only
live
for
a
couple
days.
We
only
had
a
couple
of
votes
response.
A
Only
one
was
kind
of
detailed
and
provided
some.
You
know
specific
comments
that
very
specific
areas
on
the
elevations
that
could
be
tweaked.
That
would
improve
the
design
mined.
The
the
new
roof
structure,
I
recall
so
as
a
whole.
The
vrc
has
not
had
a
chance
to
review
this
iteration
of
the
projects
you
know
depending
on
what
happens
tonight
or
the
project
was
for
the
city
council.
Perhaps
we
could
have
can
come
back
to
the
drc
for
a
full,
formal
review
that
would
allow
them
to.
A
You
know
tweak
some
aspects
of
the
design
which
I
think
would
be
fine.
A
So
that's
an
option.
I
think
that
would
work.
Okay,
one
last
question
when
this
gets
to
one
of
the
public
comments.
Also,
I
believe
that
it
may
have
come
up
during
the
drc
a
little
bit.
So
there
was
a
republican
combat
that
had
come
in
regarding
state
access
and
the
use
of
governor's
view.
A
What's
their
potential
is
their
potential
to
come
off?
What,
as
an
entrance
to
all
these,
I'm
just
trying
to
look
up
on
the
gis.
It
doesn't
it's
weird.
It's
like
that.
Favorite,
it's
a
whole
separate
property.
Have
there
been
furthering
that
you
know
discussions
with
staff
with
the
developer
with
you
know,
ntrc
about
the
potential
to
bring
in
access
from
I'm
just
going
to
call
it
apron
there,
which.
A
A
A
A
I
mean,
I
think,
speaking
of
more
detail,
so
I
know
that
I'll,
throw
it
all
justice.
So,
looking
for
the
high
points
of
kind
of
the
issues
with
accessing
it
from.
B
B
Housing,
it
was
a
three-story
studio,
but
we
had.
B
B
So,
like
you
know,
I
just
think
that
a
little.
A
Thanks:
let's
go
ahead
and
hear
from.
A
Real
estate
development
with
me
is
our
staff
archive
erin
goldman
and
thomas
levine,
with
mcgill
socials.
A
couple
quick
thanks
to
the
affordability,
the.
A
A
You
know
it's
a
lot
more
complicated,
since
this
is
a
nice
tax
credit
project,
so
funding
is,
is
kept
to
a
point
and
interest
rates
just
went
up.
I
mean
everything
is
like
fighting
against
anything
that
we're
trying
to
do
on
a
non-market
rate
scenario
right
now,
just
because
you
know
material
pumps,
you
mentioned
balconies
patios,.
A
A
Apartment
building,
but
I
guarantee
you,
it
does
get
filled.
You
know,
colors
are
intimidating.
If
it
doesn't
it's
the
inside
of
how
the
units
are
designed,
they
all
have
to
be
north
carolina,
housing,
finance
agency
requirements.
You
know
the
building
and
structure
to
me
what
we're
told
it
has
to
be.
A
I
think
you'd
be
very,
very
happy
with
the
final
technicalities
of
colors
and
the
quarter
machine
that
that's
a
segment
that's
required.
They
want
covered
access
when
a
bus
will
or
anybody's
dropping
the
people
off
or
picking
them
up.
You
know
you
can
give
us
an
idea
of
what
doesn't
look
like
a
hospital.
It
looks
you
know
like
a
hotel,
it
looks
like
a
shaded,
you
know
it's
it's
what
they
require,
but
the
site
amenities.
A
You
know
it's
very
well
laid
out
as
far
as
the
planners
and
the
outside
activities
for
for
the
residents.
I
don't
know
who
would
have
defense
on
it,
but
it
was
what
really
taught
me
to
do,
but
to
me.
A
You
know
this
thing:
this
is
probably
not
even
you
know,
really
a
representation
of
what
the
final
building
will
be.
As
far
as
you
know,
if
there's
colors,
you
know
you
want
they're
going
to
have
scenario
ports,
whether
it's
river
show
or
the
river
on
that
scale.
This
is
more,
for
you
know
the
approval
of
the
project,
so
we
can
get
to
city
council
next
week.
Applications
go
in
next
friday,
so
the
impetus
to
get
this
task
is,
you
know
friday
is
our
application
date.
A
Benefit
the
resident
like
you
know,
the
interior
does
and
things
like
that.
So
if
the
roof
needs
to
be
modified
and
changed
to
your
lightning,
you
know
it's
it's
a
lot
of
comes
back
to
cost,
but
you
know
at
the
same
time
you
know
if
there's
something
that
you
want
to
see
seem
to
have
issues
with
the
the.
A
So
that's
that's
why
you
changed
your
estimate.
You
know
it
can
go
back
and
forth,
but
we're
very
open
to
you
know
working
with
how
we
need
to
design
the
building
to
make
it
look
to
appease
everybody
but
functionally.
I
think
it's
an
excellent
layout.
It's
it's
designed
to
be.
You
know
the
needs
of
the
senior
renter
and
I
think,
you'd
be
extremely
happy
with
you
know.
The
finished
products,
but
you
know
mentioned.
A
You
for
a
very
considerate
review
of
this
project.
We
certainly
appreciate
all
the
time
and
effort
that's
gone
into
it.
We've
met
with
multiple
works
and
commissions
that
you've
seen
with
staff
multiple
times,
so
we
really
appreciate
each
other,
and
we
appreciate
the
city's
support
and
consideration
of
this
project.
A
And
so
obviously,
being
a
senior
development,
we
have
large
percentage
fees
that
are
designated
accessible
units.
All
these
will
be
for
fair
housing
and
vertical
type
b
units
as
well.
In
the
future.
We
talked
a
little
bit
about
psychology.
A
I
think
the
data
was
cleared
up
in
the
united
states
within
our
means
and
then
sort
of
prevented
it
in
north
south
as.
D
The
front
of
this
building
is
on
governor's
view.
You
know
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
constraints.
A
That
runs
along
the
road
there,
so
all
that
starts
to
push
everything
into
sight
a
little
bit
further
north
and
then
that's
where
we
get
into
the
other
compliance
issues.
I
think
that
was,
I
hope
that
was
clarified.
A
lot
of
street
treats
moved
over
on
the
other
side
and
the
request
of
the
landscaping
buffers
and
how
that
we
have
this
sort
of
harvest
sort
of
pressure.
That's
pushing
us
up
to
the
south.
A
A
A
There
so
the
landscaping
integration
there
convincing
all
that
we
understand
is
important.
So
at
this
point,
what
we're
hoping
to
present.
A
Our
think
steve
talked
about
sort
of
the
challenges
of
the
all
the
access,
and
so
the
other
thing
too,
the
really
institutional
nature
of
the
building
design.
I
appreciate
that
comment
and
you
know
that's
something
that
we
can
certainly
take
into
consideration
and
see
what
we
can
do.
A
The
color
palette
is
sort
of
intentionally
needed
to
try
to
be
a
little
neutral,
but
we
probably
went
a
little
bit
too
far
because
it's
it's
just
sort
of
monotone
in
grayscale.
Even
here
it's
hard
to
see
any
of
the
texture
of
the
kind
of
assumed,
but
you
know
we're
certainly
open
to
continue
dialogue.
A
And
working
to
improve
it,
you
know
our
most
recent
conversation
with
drc
did
talk
a
lot
about
the
roof,
the
scale
of
the
roof.
You
know
we
were
proposing
a
dub
which
you
know,
as
you
all
know,
sort
of
slopes
in
from
all
sides,
and
so
it's
a
good
way
to
sort
of
minimize
the
scale
of
it.
The
gable
really
does
become
overwhelming.
A
On
the
back
side
too,
where
you
can
see
the
community
garden
that
enters
directly
into
a
community
space,
the
residency
use
at
that
area
as
well,
so
we
tried
to
sort
of
emphasize
these
areas.
There
are
also
concerns
about.
A
You
know
about
massiveness,
you
know
this
assad
is
sort
of
singular
material,
singular
plane
and
concerns
about
its
monolithic
appearance,
and
so
we
were
to
sort
of
add
additional
offsets
and
plan
changed
materials
again
trying
to
change
texture
trying
to
address
it,
not
providing
a
sort
of
you
know
blank
wall
trying
to
address
that
concern.
A
You
know
we
did
obviously
look
at
just
sort
of
taking
the
sloping
roof
that
we
had
in
the
continuous
data
and
that
pushed
them
up
it
really
just
sort
of
made
the
roof
even
bigger,
which
we
didn't
feel
like
was
in
keeping
with
the
spirit
of
the
compounds
that
we
heard
at
the
drc,
so
we're
proposing
going
to
a
flat
roof.
That's
also
smooth
all
of
our
mechanical
units
up
on
the
roof.
A
Obviously,
they
would
be
screened
appropriately
by
the
parapet
or
we
were
screen
walls
that
we
needed,
which
frees
up
open
space
on
the
ground.
For
us,
the
additional
minutes,
the
overall
height
of
the
building,
gets
reduced
by
about
five
to
six
feet.
Addressing
some
concerns
that
we've
also
heard
a
lot
of
you
know
scale
groups
with
the
overall
building.
D
So
we
feel,
like
all
of
these,
you
know
we're
very
early
dealing
with
high
scale
mass
really
trying
to
work
through
the
architectural
direction
materials
get
open
to
continue.
A
Discussion
with
that
would
suggest
that
if
we
should
revisit
the
design
review
committee,
you
know
that's
certainly
appropriate
something
to
do
at
this
stage.
The
zoning
is
a
free
represent
for
us
to
even
sort
of
pursue
funding,
to
be
able
to
retain
a
whole
team
of
consultants
and
finalize
the
design
of
this
building.
A
Has
to
do
with
a
little
bit
more
like
it
probably
does
if
you've
seen
inside
your
plan,
the
the
ramp
that
comes
down
to
the
busa
just
feels
like
it's
tucked
out
of
the
way
in
the
corner,
and
you
know
if
the
hoe,
if
it's
to
encourage
people
arrive
at
us,.
A
So,
probably
just
speaking,
eight
percent
slope
of
the
handrail
and
everything
you
know
and,
as
you
can
see
around
the
site
of
strokes,
we
can't
impact
one
way,
which
is.
A
C
A
No,
I
believe,
they're
all
open
spaces,
yeah
number
our
aea
spaces
for
the
manchester
united
apa
union
student
facility,
and
then
we
have
legends
basis
provided
as
america's.
A
A
A
A
Including
what
we
call
site
amenities,
so
this
is
one
of
our
amenities
for
the
project,
so
it's
it's
baked
in
as
part
of
it
to
help
us
meet
the
requirements.
So
the
sort
of
large
sidewalk
that
you
see
we're
meandering
around
the
building
too
you
know-
is
intended
as
a
walking
trail
for
people
to
serve
shortly.
Where
you
can
go
around
the
community
garden,
there's
a
larger
group.
It
takes
you
sort
of
around
the
property,
so
you
know
that's
the
beginning.
D
Part
of
the
design
to
meet
the
requirements
and
either
required
to
be
raised
beds.
E
A
A
And
you
know
most
of
our
communities
when
we
get
that
15-year
period,
they're
eligible
for
tax
credits
again,
so
they
can
be
refurbished
and
productive,
beautified
things
like
that.
So
I
don't
know
if
there's
any
guarantee
beyond
30
years,
you
know
just
because
we
might
not
be
here.
Very
I
don't
know
you
can't
say
that,
but
it's
it's
mandated
that
it
stays
affordable
for
that
30-year
period,
but
there's
a
very
stiff
penalty.
A
If
you
should,
you
know,
walk
away
from
that
and
as
a
non-profit
developer,
it
would
almost
work
from
getting
other
awards
in
other
states
if
we
should
start
converting
our
affordable
communities
to
market
rating.
You
know
that's
it's
just
it's
just
not
in
our
dna.
A
Really
number
one
charter
school
operator
in
the
state
and
looking
to
to
come
down
south,
because
states
and
other
charters
will
ask
us
to
take
their
schools
over
because
we
run
them.
So
absolutely
we
have
a
40-plus
person,
social
service
division.
They
predominantly
run
up
their
columbus
office,
but
you
know
we
structure
everything
in
the
communities
to
do
social
service
benefits
for
the
residents.
If
they're
seniors,
it's
it's
it's
things
here
towards
seniors.
A
If
it's
the
families,
if
it's
it's
programs
for
the
families
that
you
know
budget
just
you
know
dieting
things
like
that
blood
pressure
checks.
You
know
some
wealth
visits.
We
schedule
that
all
the
time
in
our
in
our
community.
So
it's
something
that
the
owner
state
boom
is
very,
very
serious.
He
did
the
very
first
tax
credit
deal.
A
He
was
in
1996
and
he
has
grown
company
citizen.
You
know
it's
it's
just
their
mission.
Yeah.
They
really
really.
You
know
their
recommendations
is
second
to
none
for
a
lot
of
developer.
You
know
pool
and
it's
something
that
they're
very
proud
of.
But
you
know
I
would
say
it's
not
going
to
change.
E
A
Market
study
from
last
year
to
this
year
was
overwhelmingly
in
more
support
of
more
units,
just
just
in
that
last
year
you
know
things
have
changed,
I
mean
and
we'd
love
to
come
back
and
do
more
because
nine
percent
problem
you
know
we
can
get
two
awards
in
the
state.
We
wouldn't
get
two
awards
from
them,
but
you
know
the
need
is
here,
and
you
know
the
part
of
to
this
location
is
we're
directed
to
geographies,
based
on
census,
tract
proximity
to
health.
Wellness
groceries
things
like
that.
A
So
we
can't
just
go
say:
that's
a
great
site:
let's
build
a
nice
tax
credit
building
here,
because
if
it
doesn't
score
it's
it,
it
sits
crazy,
but
it
just
didn't
every
month
it
might
be
an
excellent
location
literally
for
the
census
trend
line.
Is
here
my
ace
of
properties
on
the
wrong
side
of
census,
tract
as
opposed
to
the
other
side
of
the
street,
couldn't
get
funding,
but
it
gets
all
the
same.
A
Because
of
the
proximity
to
all
the
you
know,
the
grocery,
the
health
homeless,
things
like
that
and
because
the
points
it
generates
in
the
reforming
system.
So
it's
it's
just
another
location.
B
My
name
is
sue
mcconnell
and
I'm
the
homeowner
across
governor's
view
road
from
the
proposed
development
between
governors
of
europe
near
the
deletery
boulevard
intersection.
I
believe
there
are
traffic
laws
in
the
design
of
this
development,
which
failed
to
account
for
the
safety
of
the
community.
The.
C
B
B
B
A
A
Then
that
those
are
the
majority
of
the
primary
impacts
and
conferences
before
we
had
this
current
plan,
we
were
looking
today
for
open
space
requirement.
That
way.
A
A
A
So
that
that's
really
drc's
thing-
and
this
is
a
pretty
round-
I
really
leave
that
to
there,
but
I'm
going
to
hold
this
up.
A
I
think
I
think
you're
within
your
rights,
you
know
it's
a
degree.
We
get
the
nitty-gritty
of
every
detail
of
it
like
drc.
Can
they
certainly
fulfill
their
obligation
to
go
before
the
drc?
And
you
know
they
weren't
necessarily
required
to
think
of
changes,
but
you
know
what
they
did.
I
don't
know
if
we
could
could
make
it
a
requirement
that
they
approve
that
they
go
back
for
informal
review
and
or
work
with
the
drc
to
improve
the
design
as
much
as
possible,
or
at
least
if
they've
stated
their
willingness
to
work
with.
A
B
A
B
To
make
these
pedestrian
improvements
yeah,
you
know,
and.
B
B
A
A
A
A
Usually
it's
up
to
the
correspondence
with
the
municipalities,
transportation,
department
and
the
interconnections
and
relationships
that
they
had
with
vot
for
maintenance
and
operation
standards,
and
I
could
get
money
reach
out
to
the
transportation
department
and
you
know
bring
that
up
to
them
and
to
entertain
them
and
with
my
connections
with
the
dot,
I
could
also
reach
out
to
them
and
request
and
see
how
we
can
get
the
pedestrian
crosswalk
duration,
lengthen.
B
A
A
B
D
A
E
E
A
A
C
A
I
say:
affordable
housing,
we
as
a
community.
We
designed
a
process
that
is
commensurate
with
the
extraordinary
need
for
healthy
housing
in
our
community,
for
7500
of
our
households
of
their
income.
A
I
didn't
want
to
go
down
that
road,
but
it's
the
challenge
of
an
image
is,
you
know
the
properties
are
still
good
in
mind,
but
you
know,
besides
that,
bringing
something
to
the
community.
That's
really
it
didn't
need
breakdown
the
challenges
with
the
communities
that
you
know,
zoning
laws
are
antiquated
or
you
know
the.
A
30
units
per
acre-
we
could
have
done
120
here
on
six
stories
because
I
think
you're
allowed
to
six
stars
and
then
it
gets
peeled
back
because
well
then
you
have
so
much
treatment
and
coverage
for
open
space,
whereas
you
know
it's
more
public
dictated
by
the
size
of
the
cell.
You
know
so
we
just
tried
to
do
you
know
everything
we
could
fit
within.
You
know
requirements,
but
I
believe
if
it
hasn't
been
voted,
we
started
designing
something.
A
B
A
Very
much
appreciate
you
know,
commissioner
barton
bringing
it
up,
because
I
think
I
feel
like
a
lot
of
times.
We
get
involved
in
these
processes,
and
I.
A
B
Zoning
request
for
the
property
located
at
21
governor
view,
road
from
river
river
to
residential
expansion,
conditional
job
res
exp
cc.
To
find
that
the
request
is
reasonable
is
that
the
public
interest
is
consistent
with
the
city's
comprehensive
plan
and
meets
the
developing
needs
of
the
community
and
that
the
request
one
prioritizes
a
greater
densities
of
development.
B
A
E
A
D
D
So,
first
doing
the
text
amendments
to
remind
you,
the
primary
goals
that
we're
seeking
are
to
implement
the
comprehensive
plan,
in
particular
reducing
barriers
to
income
housing.
We
just
heard
from
a
presentation
where
an
affordable
housing
developer
is
expressing
the
challenge
based
on
zoning
standards
that
are
out
of
date.
D
This
is
one
that
we're
trying
to
bring
in
today
we're
looking
to
improve
the
quality
and
accessibility
of
open
spaces,
to
simplify
regulations
both
for
our
city
staff,
to
review
them
for
developers
to
implement
them
to
make
better
stormwater
standards
for
forward
management
and
to
spread
strengthen
open
space
regulations
within
one
particular
district.
In
the
regards
general
to
create
a
comfortable
welcoming
space
outdoors,
we
are
specifically
just
trying
to
target
better
stormwater
mitigation
and
to
provide
a
place
for
wildlife
and
an
environmental
epic
for
the
population.
D
D
Boards
and
commissions
that
are
listed
here
and
we
had
15
meetings
about
six
months
this.
This
definitely
was
you
know,
pushable
work
that
we
did
in
highlight
that
we
had
a
consensus-based
decision-making
process
so
that
every
decision
we
made
we
couldn't
steamroll
one
or
two
people
who
didn't
like
the
direction
we
were
going.
D
We
had
to
really
struggle
through
and
come
to
a
resolution
which
I
think
led
to
some
better
standards
than
we
had
today,
folks,
so,
basically,
which
properties
are
affected,
any
development
that
has
eight
or
more
units
that
could
be
a
subdivision
of
eight
separate
points,
separate
blocks
or
it
could
be
a
multi-family
one.
Building
that
is
nine
units,
the
trigger
open
space
and
all
commercial
projects
are
required
to
comply.
D
So
we
start
by
talking
about
residential.
This
is
a
chart
that
shows
different
cities
and
where
they
stand
in
their
open
space
requirements
for
the
low
and
high
standards,
because
many
states
have
different
ranges,
and
you
can
see
that
asheville
has
two
columns
one
today
and
one
is
proposed
that,
on
both
of
the
charts
we
are
sort
of
off
the
chart,
and
that's
really
what
we're
trying
to
fix
here
is
that
our
standards,
the
way
they're
written
today,
are
broken
and
we
are
not
allowing.
D
D
So
what
does
this
look
like
on
the
ground?
This
is
a
development
from
the
20s.
It
was
built
in
the
five
points:
neighborhood
right
behind
trader
joe's
paris
here
that
is
20
units
and
at
the
time
this
building
didn't
require
open
space.
D
But
if
we
apply
our
standards
today
to
see
where
unfair,
under
our
current
regulations,
which
you
see
on
the
left,
they
would
have
to
provide
77
of
the
parcel
which
clearly,
I
think
we
would
all
agree
has
broken.
We
could
not.
No
development
could
happen
with
20
units.
What
we're
proposing
is
more
in
line
with.
Actually
you
have
to
stay
on
the
ground.
There's
there
are
trees
in
the
front
grass.
The
residents
can
come
out.
I
live
in
there
for
a
year.
My
son
will
play
around
in
there.
D
It's
it's
a
balance
space
that
allows
for
people
to
fraud,
have
a
good
time
and
to
meet
the
development
requirements
of
infill.
D
For
residential
subdivisions,
this
is
what
we
have
in
books
today.
20
is
required,
although
the
way
that
the
code
is
written,
that
that.
D
D
D
D
D
D
What
you
can
see
on
this
table
is
how
asheville
rates
compared
to
those
same
other
cities.
What
you
can
see
most
clearly
is
that
other
cities
don't
require
any
space
for
commercial
development.
We
are
continuing
to
do
that,
but
at
a
same
lower
rates.
What
you
will
see
on
the
proposed.
B
D
Our
work
around
excuse
open
space
as
a
lever
sort
of
a
very
strong
incentive
to
get
them
to
simply
implement
stormwater
mitigation
that
many
states
require
for
redevelopment.
But
we
don't
have
the
ability
to
do
so
because
of
state
connections
and
that
also
aligns
with
our
climate
resiliency
goals
that
are
part
of
the
conference
plan.
Looking
at
how
to
address
students,
flooding
I'll
say
that
the
stormwater
task
force
weighed
in
on
our
space
recommendations
and
helped
us
to
make
some
good
language,
we
have
an
incentive.
D
Design
that
we
allow
women's
space
to
be
reduced
by
five
percent
if
they
need
all
of
these
standards.
Basically,
the
space
has
to
be
relatively
contiguous.
Has
the
regular
red
relatively
normal
shape?
Most
of
it
has
to
be
five
percent
or
less,
which
is
practically
flat
and
has
to
provide
some
seating.
D
Here
we
have
an
open
space
task
force
and
these
are
some
of
the
deliverables
that
they
agreed
to
and
helped
move
our
standards
forward
on.
I
won't
read
them
I'll,
just
let
you
browse
while
I'm
talking,
I
think
what
is
most
significant
here.
Is
this
old
one
bottom
that
we're
not
going
to
talk
about
tonight
that
I
think,
will
have
more
impacts
with
the
city
of
asheville
development
space
that
is
looking
at
tree
planting
standards
city-wide
our
processed
seats,
we're
improving
tree
canopy
and
landscaping.
D
D
D
D
D
That
they
wanted
to
make
the
regulations
for
zoning
in
rapid,
open
space
more
restrictive.
What
you
see
in
the
map
here
are
the
different
different
sub
districts
within
rad
rivera's
district,
the
the
highlighted
green
is
called
red
orbit
space
and
it
makes
up
40
of
all
the
rad
districts,
it's
primarily
owned
by
the
city
and
duke
energy,
and
it's
intended
to
be
open
space.
Most
of
it
is
greenway.
Today.
D
What
we're
proposing
is
to
change
the
building
coverage
maximum.
This
is
the
maximum
percentage
that
any
law
can
have
a
building
from
80.
Today,
you
can
build
up
and
build
out.
Eighty
percent
of
your
loss
we're
suggesting
that
be
reduced
to
sellers,
so
you
can
only
build
a
very
small
amount
on
these
parcels.
That
would
be
something
like
a
bathroom
facility
or
maybe
a
bike.
You
know
like
storage
facility.
If
my
chair
takes
off
some
things
like
that,
and
you
need
impervious
service
regulation
at
12.
D
D
D
We're
proposing
that
those
will
be
re-zoned
in
order
to
allow
us
to
have
the
sites
that
are
partly
zoned
stronger
restrictions
to
non-negative
negatively
compounded
in
the
future.
It
cannot
be
non-conforming
so
we're
proposing
that
they
go
from
radical
basis
to
our
inmates,
which
is
residential,
medium
density
districts.
D
The
the
larger
parcel,
that's
shaded
in
red
kind
of
extending
up
into
the
corner
is
one
parcel
and
we're
proposing
to
leave
that
part
of
the
parlor
parcel
draft
residential
the
way
it
is
today
because
we
don't
know
what
the
future
holds
and
we
don't
want
to
change
regulations.
We
don't
know
what's
coming
so
this
is
just
the
proposal.
D
D
So
we
come
to
you
to
ask:
did
you
approve
these
recommendations
both
for
the.
A
B
A
E
D
B
D
Basically
is
going
to
be
either
a
swimming
pool:
basketball,
courts,
tennis,
courts
stuff
like
that
there
is
that
part
of
that
sliver
of
land
on
the
north
side.
That
has
some
future
development
possibilities.
So
if
the
city
decided
to
do
something,
there's
no
discussion.
D
If
they
wanted
to
do
something,
they
would
either
do
it
under
this
under
the
existing
or
the
proposed
serving
district
rmes,
or
they
would
propose
a
change
and
do
that
through
a
public
process,
but
there's
currently
no
new
proposal.
So
we
have
no
idea
if
there
would
be
something
I
mean,
I
would
guess
time
something
would
come
down
the
pipe,
because
it's
it's
not.
E
D
B
A
However,
it's
hard
for
me
to
ignore
and
it
seems
that
proper
obsidian
properties
acquired
or
do
deserve
very
close
or
any
perspective.
A
D
Okay,
I'll
just
say
yes,
the
split
zone
difference
doesn't
change
again,
knowing
that
we
don't
have
any
concept
coming
down
the
pipe.
We
don't
want
necessarily
change.
D
Either
those
parcels
based
on
speculation
that
complete
speculation,
I
will
say
that
the
development,
the
stage
two
development
of
the
grant
center
that
is
currently
underway
there
was
ribbon
cuttings
last
week-
was
completely
in
line
with
the
the
current
zoning
code.
Grad
open
space.
D
D
A
A
D
A
A
D
D
There's
a
little
bit
of
vague
language
in
here,
but
there's
you
know,
the
title
does
state
that
it's
a
resolution,
joking,
the
city
manager,
to
suspend
sale
or
changes
without
any
use
of
any
property
required
for
renewal.
So
there
is
that
language.
At
the
end
it
really
says
that
the
same
manager
is
directed
to
not
suspend
to
not
sail
or
sell
a
property
that
has
been
part
of
redevelopment
through
renewal.
A
A
I
just
want
to
go
ahead
and
make
sure
that
we're
clear
why
the
motion
is
denied,
so
you
just
I
know
the
discussions
here,
just
we're
clear
with
the
motion.
Why
not
or
why
you're,
not
I'm
proposing
a
motion
to
deny,
because
I
do
not
find
that
the
test
is
visible
in
the
public
interest
or
consistent
with
the
city
of
confidence
or
resolution.
That's
on
the
books.
D
Okay,
just
share
with
you
aware
of
this.
This
is
a
grant
center
project.
It's
it.
You
can
see
here
the
site
plan,
different
sports
courts,
swimming
area
parking-
and
this
this
map
shows
here
is
this
shaded
area
is
the
tree
protection
area.
So
it's
looking
the
double-hatched
area.
D
Our
intention
was
to
find
the
zoning
district
that
was
both
approximate
and
not
previous,
so
that
we
weren't
zoning
into
something
that
was
incongruous
and
news.
New
zealand
district
that
might
startle
the
public,
and
this
was
consistent
with
the
existing
uses
that
were
all
around
at
the
time
the
grant
center
the
fire
station
and
existing
uses
moving
forward
today
and
tomorrow.
A
A
Met
in
the
past
15
15
times
for
eight
months,
and
I'm
here
to
speak
in
support
of
the
larger
tax
amendments
when
we
started
the
task
force,
I
had
other
members
were
cognizant
of
the
process
by
selling
a
developer
regulations,
ultimately
a
product
and
then
what
kind
of
development
a
larger
community
do?
Development
regulations
produce
so
product
was
my
primary
focus
and
my
confidence
to
reflect
that
focus.
A
A
500
square
feet
of
open
space
required
per
unit
for
the
existing
standards.
This
room
that
we're
in
right
now
is
about
600
square
feet.
So,
if
you
think
of
that,
it's
actually
that's
about
as
much
space
for
each
unit
of
open
space
under
the
standards,
it's
recognizing
the
context
of
a
small
small
space.
A
A
A
A
And
probably
have
gotten
a
lot
of
comments
that
are
focused
on
passion.
Passion
is
good.
I
would
also
encourage
you
to
balance
those
with
practicality,
practicalities
of
spatial
considerations,
again
500
square
feet.
Just
to
give
you
an
illustration
of
the
existing
regulations,
that's
basically
a
studio
environment
for
kdu
or
to
micro
units,
which
you
recently
just
looked
that
up
all
your
avenues
so
really
encourage
you
to
think
spatially
and
really
encourage
you.
E
Good
evening,
members
of
png,
I
appreciate
your.
B
So
I'm
going
to
speak
a
little
bit
to
numbers
and
not
just
from
passion.
So.
A
A
A
A
E
A
A
A
B
B
E
C
A
D
We
have
not,
we've
been
recommended
by
lego
to
put
off
reforming
our
process
for
how
he
lose
developed
and
spent
where
to
spend
the
city,
because
there
are
existing
lawsuits
pending
in
another
city
or
two
cities
and
without
knowing
how
those
turn
out.
We
need
to
be
cautious
about
what
our
language
is.
So
currently
we
have
it's
a
couple
hundred
thousand
dollars
on
books
that
we've
accumulated
at
the
city
over
a
period
of
many
years.
D
I
think
15
20
years
as
part
of
open
space
in
lieu,
but
we
don't
want
to
refine
the
process
for
how
that's
spent
until
we
know
legally,
where
we
stand
and
in
order
to
not
then
get
a
lawsuit,
because
we
you
know,
don't
have
a
clear
legal
footing,
I'm
not
sure
if
that's
janice.
E
D
A
So,
mr
sullivan,
I
think
these
are
some
comments
and
some
concerns
about
that.
Pretty
much.
A
A
A
C
A
These
little
things
maybe
need
to
be
tweaked
a
little
bit
more.
I'm
sure
that
all
the
commissions
and,
of
course
put
this
look
at
all
this,
but
they
they're
just
giving
me
a
little
bit
of
a
headache
and
kind
of
like
the
brainwaves.
You
know
they
allow
itself,
if
there's
a
green
way
going
through
there,
that
you
know
for
about
15
percent
of
the
site
area,
and
that
could
be
the
requirement
again
looking
at
something
that
require
our
50
percent
open
space.
Maybe
15
now
again.
D
D
Affordable
housing
projects
on
one
acre
that
are
at
least
fifty
percent
residential
and
of
that
fifty
percent
residential
they
have
to
be
thirty.
Eighty
thirty
30,
affordable
30
of
the
units
are
affordable
for
at
80
percent
ami
for
30
years,
which
is
above
and
beyond
our
city
standard.
Just
28,
20.
D
B
I
think
we're
like
almost
there,
but
not
quite
you
know
things
like
where
there's
greenway
there.
Oh,
I
get
a
pass,
I
mean
think
of
what
brad
was.
C
D
C
To
be
put
in
here-
and
I
think
it's
just
like
a
little
today.
D
D
Table
and
the
ordinance
that
you
have
so
it
is
very
specific
for
eight
to
nine
units.
You're
only
allowed
ten
percent
of
the
space,
but
that
number
can
be
reduced
if
you
meet
incentives
and
the
incentive
is
the
better
design
standard.
So
we're
trying
to
give
flexibility
to
projects
to
allow
them
to
make
better
open
spaces
and,
as
as
part
of
that,
trade-off
to
not
have
to
provide
as
much
of
a
space.
But.
D
So
it
is
not
this
flexible
range
and
in
regards
to
the
greenways,
I
just
want
to
call
out
that
we've
thought
through
this,
so
we
can
talk
some
more
about
it
and
you
know
for
us
to
come
back
to
talk
about
it.
We
can
do
that.
We've
done
this
for
three
years,
so
another
three
years
is
fine.
D
C
A
D
That,
because,
when
a
developer
agrees
to
dedicate
and
give
their
land
to
the
sea,
we
are
giving
them
something
to
return,
which
is
to
say
that
you're
only
required
to
provide
the
proposed
greenway
through
your
site
and
that
you
will
be
considered
to
satisfy
your
requirement
if
over,
when
the
green
easement
is
over
10
of
the
sun.
D
So
it's
it's!
It's
it's
in
this
range
of
you
know
the
lower
ends
10,
but
they're
also
giving
up
property
to
the
city.
So
we
thought
that
that's
a
fair
tradeoff,
because
their
actually
state
is
getting
something
in
return,
and
it's
not
clear
that
we
can
always
get
the
property
that
we
want
for
greenways.