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Okay,
all
right,
it's
nine
o'clock,
so
we
can
get
started
good
morning.
My
name
is
eileen
mcminn.
I
am
the
chair
of
the
homeless
initiative
advisory
committee,
which
we
call
hayak,
and
I
would
like
to
welcome
you
to
our
may
28
2021
meeting
the
homeless
advisory
committee
is
a
city
council,
county
jointly
appointed
group
charged
with
implementing
the
community's
plan
to
address
homelessness.
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will
have
three
minutes
to
do
so.
So
to
all
of
you
who
are
here
with
us
today
welcome
the
first
thing
we
will
do
is
go
through
the
roll
call.
A
We
will
go
through
and
introduce
all
the
committee
members
who
are
participating
virtually
please
make
sure
to
mute
your
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Speaking
can
christina
call
the
role.
B
Okay,
so
sarah.
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B
Yeah,
I
think
she
had
tried
to
dial
in
randy
stout
here,
meredith
schweitzer
here
and
jennifer
t.
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A
Yes,
okay,
I
will
go
through
and
state
the
agenda
item
and
then
we
can
have
whatever
discussion.
We
have.
The
the
consent
agenda
is
the
second
item
on
the
agenda
and
the
only
thing
we
have
on
the
consent
agenda
are
the
minutes
of
the
march
26th
meeting.
E
A
D
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B
F
B
Joelle:
okay,
great
randy,.
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B
A
Okay,
so
the
consent
agenda
has
been
adopted
and
we're
making
good
time
here.
Number
three
on
the
agenda
is
the
point
in
time
count,
and
I
will
turn
that
over
to
brian.
B
Thank
you
so
emily's
not
able
to
join
us
today,
she's
on
vacation.
She
is
the
real
hmis
nerd
of
the
two
of
us,
so
she'd
be
able
to
give
you
a
lot
more
detail
so
I'll
cover
using
the
memorandum
that
she
submitted
to
the
assistant
city
manager.
Right
after
we
submitted
our
information
to
hud.
So
this
year's
count
527
people
total.
You
know
some
some
some
changes
for
sure,
some
of
them
not
unexpected.
B
B
We
also
saw
a
fairly
significant
jump
in
in
youth
homelessness,
which
is
you
know,
certainly
concerning
and
I'm
happy
to
say
that
there's
a
group
of
youth
providers
that
you
know
emily
and
I
have
been
having
some
regular
meetings
with
and
strategizing
on.
You
know
just
what
we
need
to
do
to
address
that.
You
know
our
our
community
still
has
a
pretty
significant
veteran
homeless
population.
B
You
know
it's
about
six
and
a
half
percent
nationally
it's
about
36
percent
here,
but
you
know
we
have
one
of
the
best
va
medical
centers
in
the
entire
country
here
and
people
come
here
to
receive
care
and
veterans
restoration
quarters.
You
know
tim
thanks
for
everything
you
guys
do
out
there.
You
know
that
the
folks
that
are
getting
services
at
va
might
be
camping
outside
if
it
wasn't
for
what
you
guys
are
doing
out
there.
B
So
I
think,
given
the
you
know
the
availability
of
services
here,
we
actually
saw
a
little
bit
of
a
decrease
in
veteran
homelessness
this
past
year,
and
I
think
that's
largely
attributable
to
the
fact
that
we
just
have
lots
of
resources
on
the
veterans
side
of
homelessness
and
just
not
enough
on
the
non-veteran
side.
So
you
know
the
vast
majority
of
our
homeless
population
are
single
folks.
B
Families
really
only
account
for
about
10
percent
and
that's
been
fairly
consistent
over
the
years,
and
you
know
the
number
that
always
jumps
out
at
me-
and
this
has
also
been
pretty
consistent
over
the
years-
is
that
you
know
30
percent
of
the
people
who
were
identified
in
our
account
this
year,
or
you
know
black
indigenous
or
people
of
color,
and
so
that's
that's
just
that
sort
of
disproportionate
representation
of
the
bipartisan
community
and
our
homeless
population
is
really
really
concerning.
B
So
those
are
kind
of
the
highlights
of
this
year's
point
in
time
count.
You
know
my
plan
is
for
emily
to
have
a
more
substantive
report
about
the
point
in
time
count
in
conjunction
with
the
system
performance
measures
which
are
a
more
holistic
picture
of
our
progress
at
the
next
meeting
in
july.
But
I'm
happy
to
take
any
questions
or
comments
about
the
pit
count
for
this
year.
A
Okay,
any
questions
no
questions,
I
mean
we
also
have
a
paragraph
here
on
solutions
and
opportunities.
Well,.
B
Whenever
we
have
an
increase
in
chronic
homelessness,
you
know
it
just
means:
there's
fewer
resources
available
for
everybody
else.
You
know
I
from
my
desk.
You
know
the
most
critical
need
we
have
in
the
community
is:
is
more
permanent,
supportive
housing
units
available
and
more
rental
housing
available
to
people
who
are
exiting
homelessness?
You
know
more
more
land,
private
sector
landlords
in
the
mix
you
know,
but
but
you
know
we
got
to
have
more
physical
units
for
our
chronically
homeless
population.
B
You
know
we
got
rental
assistance
dollars
that
came
in
as
part
of
the
cares
act.
You
know
homeward
bound
and
pisgah
legal
services
have
been
the
largest
recipients
of
of
the
cdbg
cv
dollars
for
rental
assistance.
So,
but
you
know,
and
and
some
of
those
resources
are
also
allocated
to
you-
know-
rapid
re-housing
efforts,
but
again
it's
dependent
on
having
a
sufficient
supply
of
private
sector
landlords
who
are
willing
to
rent
and
we've
got
ridiculously
high
housing
costs
here
and
even
with
you
know
what
I
think
was
david
correct
me.
B
If
I'm
wrong,
I
think
a
30,
almost
a
30
increase
in
fmr.
So,
even
with
that,
we're
still,
you
know
it's
still
difficult
to
get
landlords
to
participate.
You
know
just.
We
also
need
a
low
barrier,
shelter
in
the
mix.
There's
there's
active
conversation
about
that,
and
certainly
you
know
something
that's
been
needed
in
the
community
for
a
really
really
long
time
and
there
seems
to
be
some
energy
and
will
around
making
that
happen.
B
But
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
resources
coming
down
the
pike
here,
a
lot
of
opportunities
to
do
some
new
things.
So
you
know.
That's!
That's
probably.
I
guess
that's
the
next
item
on
the
agenda.
So
you
know
we've
got
to
just
continue
to
build
out
the
services
system
and
have
the
right
mix
of
interventions.
You
know
we
need
permanent,
supportive
housing.
You
know
we
need
housing
for
folks
who
don't
have
the
same
type
of
significant
needs
that
a
large
number
of
our
chronically
homeless
population
have.
B
You
know
we
need
some
housing,
that's
dedicated
to
youth
ages,
18
to
24..
I
think
allied
is
working
on
that
there's.
A
lot
of
things
mixes
that
that
we
need
to
have
available,
and
we
have
you
know
sufficient
units
and
just
you
know,
an
adequate
number
of
resources
to
support
all
those
efforts.
You
know
our
point
in
time.
Numbers
have
stayed
relatively
the
same
over
the
years
within
the
same
80
or
90
over
the
last.
You
know
10
or
11
or
12
years,
which
tells
me
two
things
me
personally.
B
It's
one
that
our
agencies
that
are
working
on
getting
folks
housed
are
doing
a
superb
job
of
getting
them
housed
and
keeping
them
housed.
I
think
meredith
I'll,
let
you
speak
for
homeward
bound,
but
your
retention
rate
is
pretty
close
to
90
percent.
I
believe
so,
but
all
we're
able
to
do
is
tread
water
without
any
resources
in
the
mix.
B
So
some
years
we
got
our
chin
a
little
bit
more
above
the
water
line
than
others,
but
without
an
in
a
significant
increase
in
the
number
of
units
available
and
accessible
to
people,
exiting
homelessness
and
and
a
number
of
private
sector
landlords
willing
to
rent
to
them.
Those
numbers
are
going
to
stay
about
the
same.
So
you
know
it's
the
commitment
of
resources
that
is
going
to
be
that's,
going
to
eventually
make
the
difference
in
in
in
those
numbers.
A
K
Well,
okay,
I
actually
just
wanted
to
make
a
statement
what
you
said,
brian
all,
that
you
just
said.
I
certainly
agree
with.
We
need
more
housing
stock
in
our
community,
and
certainly
we
were
not
surprised
to
see
that
there
was
an
increase
in
20
by
20
percent
in
the
chronic
homelessness
population.
K
We've
known
that
if
those
individuals
are
on
our
current
by
name
list
and
that's
certainly
why
we
have
so
much
excitement
and
energy
around
our
permanent
supportive
housing
project
with
the
hotel
conversion
at
days,
inn
which
we
really
hope
is
going
to
be
opened
up
to
allow
people
to
start
moving
in
by
the
end
of
next
year.
But
I
also
wanted
to
mention-
and
I
guess
this
is
the
time
to
do
it,
but
we
we
have
a
new
grant.
It's
called
housing
connections
that
we
got
through
the
north
carolina
coalition
and
homelessness.
K
It's
actually
blue
cross
blue
shield
funding
that
came
to
our
agency
that
passed
through
ncceh,
very
robust
grant.
We
actually
started
it
in
march
and
it
it
will
allow
us
to
have
greater
engagement
with
landlords,
be
able
to
attract
more
landlords
and
also
retain
the
landlords
that
we
have
been
currently
working
with.
I
know,
for
example,
we
can
offer
more
incentives
to
those
who
have
private
housing
stock
to
encourage
them
to
partner
with
us
and
to
even
be
in
the
room
with
us.
I
mean
for
a
long
time.
K
It's
been
difficult
to
even
just
get
the
attention
of
those
who
are
have
privately
owned
property,
so
really
excited
about
that.
We
are
also
working
with
city
of
asheville
brian.
I
know
that
you've
worked
closely
with
our
housing
placement
manager
and
paul
d'angelo,
and
so
we're
excited
about
that,
but
certainly
programs
like
that
take
a
take
a
while
to
build,
and
so
we
are
going
to
be
working
on
a
community
campaign
to
share
the
messaging
about
that.
K
A
B
And
one
thing
I'll
add
about
our
increase
in
our
chronically
homeless
population.
You
know
some
of
that
is
due
to
the
fact
that
just
people
simply
age
into
chronicity,
because
we
can't
get
them
housed
quickly
enough.
So
you
know
that
that
12-month
period,
if
they're,
when
when
we
first
engaged
them
and
they're
they've,
been
on
the
streets
for
10
months
and
it's
five
months
before
we
can
get
them
into
housing,
they're
going
to
be
chronically
homeless
before
the
housing
placement.
A
B
So
oh
tamiya's
got
the
the
final
20
21
way
to
go
tamiya,
so
efficiency
is
a
thousand
ninety
six.
This
is
in
the
chat.
One
bedroom
is
a
thousand
ninety
nine
two
bedroom
is
12.79,
three
bedroom
is
1751
and
four
bedroom
is
2213.,
so
that's
up
pretty
close
to
30
percent
over
what
it
what
it
was
prior
to
this
most
recent
update,
I
think
david
david
and
his
team
over
the
housing
authority
worked
really
hard
with
hud
to
get
get
that
increase
so.
A
Okay,
is
there
anything
else
on
that
item?
Our
next
item
is
actually
quite
similar,
so.
A
Okay,
so
we
have
funding
updates
from
brian.
D
B
Yeah
so
I'll
start
with
the
2021
continuum
of
care,
since
there's
not
a
whole
lot
to
say
about
it,
yet
the
notice
of
funding
availability
for
the
continuum
of
care
dollars
this
year
hasn't
been
announced.
Yet
I
feel,
like
it'll,
probably
be
the
third
week
of
june,
when
that
announcement
will
come
just
based
on
the
the
pace
of
the
announcements
that
usually
come
just
prior
to
the
formal
funding
announcement
being
made.
B
You
know
it's,
I
imagine,
there's
going
to
be
some
changes
to
it
this
year.
That
are
that,
are
you
know
related
to
what
our
coveted
response
looked
like
and
how
it
impacted
our
service
system,
the
questions
in
the
consolidated
application,
I'm
sure
we'll
we'll
you
know,
provide
some
information,
a
hud
about
that.
But
you
know
we.
There
are
some
steps
that
we
have
to
take
prior
to
the
announcement
that
have
actually
been
going
on
since
late
in
february
that
we've
already
taken
care
of.
B
So
you
know
we
don't
know
what
the
initial
amount
available
will
be.
We're
currently
working
with
the
funded
agencies
to
we
receive
a
document
from
hud
called
the
grant
inventory
worksheet
that
sometimes
just
needs
some
updates
from
the
agencies
that
are
up
for
renewal
funding.
So
once
we
have
that
hub
will
determine
what
our
you
know.
Final
pro
rata
amount
available
will
be
so
standby.
I
expect
we'll
we'll
have
an
announcement
sometime
next
month.
Where's
the
biggest
thing
that's
shaking
everybody
knows
about
it.
B
There's
lots
of
conversation
about
it
is
the
american
rescue
plan,
which
have
some
really
specific
provisions
related
to
homelessness
nationwide
five
billion
dollars
in
new
home
investment
partnership
program
dollars.
That's
specifically
targeted
to
reduce
homelessness.
The
four
county
asheville
regional
housing
consortium
will
get
almost
4.7
million
of
that,
but
that's
divided
among
the
four
counties
in
the
in
the
consortium.
B
There's
you
know
more
than
21.5
billion
for
the
emergency
rental
assistance
fund.
That
is
comes
to
the
county
from
the
u.s
department
of
treasury.
Jen.
Correct
me.
If
I'm
wrong,
the
first
tranche
of
that
money
was
just
under
eight
million
dollars.
I
think,
and.
E
B
B
Yeah
on
the
first
tranche,
but
there's
another
charge
coming
through,
and
I've
heard
between
seven
and
nine
million
dollars,
but
no
no,
no
details
on
that
particular
funding
from
treasury.
Yet
and
then
there's
five
billion
was
allocated
in
the
legislation
for
emergency
housing
vouchers
for
people
experiencing
homelessness
and-
and
you
know
david,
if
you
want
to
talk
at
this
point
about
those
47
new
vouchers
that
were
allocated,
I'm
assuming
that
you
met
the
deadline
to
accept
them
and
and
we've
been
having
conversations.
Oh
I'm
sorry,
jen!
L
I
do
I
just
had
a
quick
question
about
what
you
just
mentioned
about
the
4.7
million,
and
the
split
between
the
four
counties
is
that
based
on
population
size?
Is
it
just?
Do
you
know
how
those
funds
will
be
split.
B
You
know
it'll
be
up
to
the
consortium,
you
know
how
they'll
divvy
it
up,
but
these
are
resources
that
are
targeted
specifically
for
people
experiencing
homelessness.
So
you
know
some
of
the
eligible
uses
could
be
tenant-based
rental
assistance.
It
could
be.
B
You
know,
affordable
housing,
development
for
homeless,
folks,
unusually
for
home,
it
could
also
be
for
supportive
services,
but
really
the
key
point
in
the
legislation,
and
I
think
the
intent
primary
intent
was,
for
you
know,
acquisition
and
development
of
existing
structures
that
could
be
used
for
either
non-congregate
shelter
or
permanent,
supportive
housing
or
shelter.
That
starts
out
as
shelter
that
gets
later
converted
to
permanent
supportive
housing.
I
think
that
that
would
is
it's
an
eligible
use.
B
B
E
I
My
fault
juggling
too
many
things
this
morning,
so
we
have
been
allocated
47,
emergency
housing
vouchers.
I
put
the
hud
website
and
the
chat
for
anybody
who
wants
to
look
directly
and
see
the
scope
of
the
program.
I
I
It
it's
not
a
magic
wand,
because
of
course,
we
still
have
to
find
landlords
who
will
take
the
vouchers,
but
they
will
be
similar
to
the
bash
program
in
that
referrals
will
come
to
us
through
coordinated
entries,
and
we
will
issue
and
administer
the
vouchers
and
we'll
be
counting
on
the
agencies
who
are
supporting
those
folks
to
help
them
find
housing.
I
I
The
definition
under
section
387
of
the
runaway
homeless,
youth
act,
the
head,
start
act,
violence
against
the
women
act,
public
health
service
act
and,
most
significantly
in
what
most
people
will
recognize,
is
the
mckinney-vento
homeless,
assistance
act
and
yeah
that's
kind
of
the
overview
of
the
program.
I
think
we've
had
an
initial
call
with
some
coc
member
agencies
and
we're
having
some
follow-up
calls.
After
this,
the
again,
the
referrals
will
come
through
coordinated
entry.
I
We
need
to,
according
to
the
hud
guidelines,
take
racial
equity
into
account
and
make
sure
that
we're
serving
a
broad
scope
of
the
population,
the
the
rents
will
be
higher
than
the
fair
market
rents,
because
it'll
be
based
on
our
payment
standards,
which
are
currently
11
I'll
type.
This
into
the
chat
too,
but
1170
for
for
an
efficiency
1234
for
one
bedroom,
1481
for
a
two
bedroom
2027
for
a
three
bedroom
and
2601
for
a
four
bedroom.
I
I
The
the
program
starts.
E
I
That's
a
great
question.
Thank
you.
The
program
starts
on
july
1..
Let
me
talk
around
your
question
for
a
second
and
then
get
back
to
it.
They're
encouraging
lease
up
within
the
first
four
to
six
months.
If
possible,
it's
going
to
be
a
challenge
in
asheville,
because
we
still
have
the
landlord
finding
the
available
unit
challenge
even
with
the
higher
rent
standards,
and
then
it's
we
can.
I
I
mean
that
whoever
leases
up
in
that
time
frame
can
be
on
the
program
for
as
long
as
they
need
to
be
they
or
and
as
long
as
they
qualify.
They.
E
I
Somebody
moves
out
or
leaves
the
program
we
can
reissue
the
voucher
to
another
family
until
I
believe
it's
september,
20
2023
and
then,
if
anybody
who
exits
after
that
date,
the
voucher
will
expire.
I
B
B
Items
just
one
of
the
things
that
I
have
found
a
really
interesting
tool
is
the
urban
institute's
emergency
rental
assistance
priority
index,
which
gives
us
a
clear
sense
of
what
needs
are
in
particular
census
tracts.
B
You
know
and
it,
and
it
really
emphasizes
that
equitable
approach,
so
that
a
bit
david
just
mentioned
that
takes
in
some
into
account
some
risk
factors
that
we
know
our
bipod
community
has,
and
so
that's
certainly
a
a
a
really
great
tool
that
I
hope
the
available
rental
assistance
that
makes
use
of
that
particular
tool
to
try
to
you
know:
keep
people
in
those
really
vulnerable
census
tracts
keep
them
in
housing.
There
are
some
direct
allocations
that
are
coming
to
local
government.
B
The
city
of
asheville
will
get
about
27
million
in
direct
allocation
and
welcome
county
will
get
50
million,
733,
000
and
change.
You
know
there's
sort
of
a
broad
swath
of
eligible
uses,
I'll
just
read
them
to
you.
B
Those
last
two
I
read
them
is
that
they
could
potentially
be
used
as
a
primary
source
of
funding
for
programs
that
are
serving
people
experiencing
homelessness
that
aren't
in
any
of
the
above
categories.
So
there
has
been
some
initial
guidance.
That's
come
out
from
treasury
over
the
last
few
days
about
the
those
funds.
You
know
I've
probably
read
more
new
guidance
announcements
in
the
last
two
weeks
than
I
have
in
my
entire
20-plus
year,
career
doing
this
stuff.
B
It's
lots
of
information
coming
down
the
pike
so
eileen-
and
I
discussed
you
know
in
discussing
the
agenda
for
today's
meeting.
You
know
we
certainly
want
to
have
a
robust
discussion
around
any
potential
recommendations
that
want
to
come
out
of
this
group
to
advance
to
city,
council
and
county
commission
if
brian
were
to
wave
his
magic
wand.
B
Today,
I'd
say
you
know:
3.25
million
from
city
and
county
each
for
acquisition
of
a
low
barrier,
shelter
site,
2
million
from
each
to
support
homeward
bounds
days
in
the
project
already
underway,
a
million
from
each
to
support,
helpmates,
new
domestic
violence,
shelter
that
I
know
that
they're
trying
to
get
launched
and
then
a
million
for
me
to
support
acquisition
and
rehabilitation
of
at
least
one
more
hotel
or
motel
or
other
suitable
conversion
to
permanent
housing,
and
that
you
know
make
a
recommendation
to
the
home
consortium
that
a
good
portion
of
their
allocation
get
dedicated
to
that
that
same
acquisition
and
conversion.
B
You
know
just
the
need
for
permanent
supportive
housing
is
really
really
critical,
along
with
the
need
to
recruit
private
sector
landlords.
So
I
I
don't
think
it's
hyperbole
to
use
the
word
unprecedented,
but
this
is
really
an
unprecedented
opportunity
that
we
have.
This
is
more
money
than
has
ever
come
to
communities.
Specifically
targeted
to
address
homelessness,
and
so
it's
it's
a
it's
just.
B
It's
a
big
just
a
lot,
a
lot
of
opportunities
to
make
big
bold
steps
here,
so
I'm
happy
to
field
any
questions
or
if
we
just
want
to
open
it
up
for
discussion
at
this
time.
Madam
chair,
I'm
happy
to
close
my
mouth.
A
Well,
I
I
think
we're
merging
pretty
seamlessly
into
the
next
item
on
the
agenda,
which
is
arpa
recommendations
and
one
of
our
stated
objectives.
Roles
of
the
hayak
in
its
charter
is
to
formulate
and
make
recommendations
on
funding
and
policy
to
local
governmental
entities
and
social
service
agencies
to
reduce
the
incidence
of
homelessness.
A
We
do
not.
I
think
we
all
know
that
we
are
not
in
a
position
here
to
specifically
make
anything
happen,
but
I
think
we
should
take
our
role
seriously
as
a
publicly
appointed
body
which
is
designated
to
make
recommendations
and
steer
policy,
even
if
we
don't
effectuate
policy
and
brian
has
started
with,
has
started
out
with
some
recommendations.
A
I
mean
staff,
I
think,
did
take
into
consideration
recent
discussions
from
the
committee
as
to
what
our
priorities
should
be
looking
at
what
is
going
on
in
the
community
and-
and
we
have
a
broad-based
body
of
participants
here,
with
varying
areas
of
expertise
in
this
particular
area.
So
I
think
what
we
should
do.
We
we
do
have
a
recommendation
from
staff.
A
It's
up
to
us
whether
or
not
we
want
to
go
with
that
adjust
it
come
up
with
a
process
for
coming
up
with
another
one,
but
I
think
we
do
have
brian.
You
might
elaborate
on
this.
I
mean
I
think
we
do
have
time
constraints.
We
don't
have
six
months
to
come
up
with
a
recommendation.
B
We
we
do
not
that's
correct.
Both
the
city
and
the
county
have
to
submit
their
proposed
use
of
their
direct
allocations
to
the
department
of
the
treasury
by
the
end
of
august,
but
you
know
I'll.
Let
jen
speak
for
the
county
side
of
it,
but
on
the
city
side
of
it
you
know
we're
we're
hoping
to
have
that.
You
know
kind
of
a
tight
list
together,
you
know
sometime
the
middle
part
of
july.
B
You
know:
we've
got
up,
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
eligibility
sort
of
vetting.
That
has
to
be
done,
and
so
there's
been
some
discussions
around
that,
but
you
know
actually
putting
a
proposal
together
is
going
to
take
a
little
bit
of
time
internally.
So
you
know
time
is
of
the
essence
here.
I
appreciate
you
bringing
that
that
that
item
up,
because
our
the
deadline
for
the
treasury
august
31st
might
sound
like
a
long
time
away.
B
B
B
A
You
know
a
little
bit
of
the
of
the
ideas
out,
possibly
appoint
a
task
force
that
will
work
a
little
bit
more
specifically
on
some
of
these
items,
and
that
doesn't
mean
I
mean
I
think,
like
I
called
everybody
that
having
a
task
force
doesn't
mean
everybody
else
is
shut
out,
but
you
know,
I
think,
if
we
have
a
task
force,
those
people
can
poll
and
discuss
with
other
folks
on
the
committee
to
make
sure
that
we
have
everybody
represented
and
all
of
the
issues
represented.
A
You
know
we
just
have
to
bear
in
mind
our
responsibilities
as
a
public
agency
to
do
everything
in
a
transparent
way,
and
then
the
task
force
can
work
with
staff
to
put
together
a
specific
set
of
proposals
which
will
then
go
to
the
city
and
the
county
with.
B
I
I
just
want
to
add
one
project
to
the
list.
I
think
all
those
sound
like
very
important
ones.
We
last
fall.
We
had
the
experience
of
a
large
piece
of
masonry
falling
off
the
woodfin
apartments
building
wow
and
we
did
some
emergency
removal
of
things
at
the
historic
building.
So
it
needs
to
be
put
back
in
in
some
format
the
way
it
was
okay,
but
we
have
a
half
million
to
three
quarters
of
a
million
dollar
project
there
to
preserve
those
units
of
permanent
supportive
housing
and
I've.
I
County
about
it,
but
since
this
is
a
joint
and
I
think
to
me,
it
makes
more
sense
to
go
through
one
entity
or
the
other
and
not
to
have
two
different
reporting
mechanisms
for
the
funding.
But
since
this
is
a
joint
city
county
committee,
I'd
like
for
that
one
to
be
on
the
table,
if
possible,
okay,
great.
I
B
I
B
Okay
and
then
the
the
the
one
thing
that
I
would
add
to
eileen's
comments
are
you
know,
I
think
paul
deangelo
mentioned
this
in
the
chat.
You
know,
I
think
we're
looking
for
what
it,
what
would
be
the
most
impactful
use
of
these
funds.
If
you,
if
you
read
the
legislation
itself,
it
reads,
you
know,
reduce
the
number
of
people
experiencing
homelessness.
So
what
are
the
things
that
we
can
do
that
are
going
to
have
the
greatest
long-term
impact
towards
that
community
objective
of
actually
ending
homelessness?
B
So
again
I
just
I'm
with
you
eileen.
I
think
you
know
just
some
open
discussion
around
this
again
I'll
I'll,
close
my
mouth
and
let
everybody
else
talk
at
this
point.
A
Okay,
and
does
everybody
have
this
set
of
recommendations,
it's
easier
to
look
at.
I
can't
find
my
first
page.
What
does
it
say.
A
May
28th
homeless
initiative
advisory
committee
may
28
2021
american
rescue
plan
resources
to
address
homelessness.
It
was
one
of
the
attachments
to
one
of
the
meeting
announcements,
but
if
you
don't
have
that,
you
might
look
for
it
because
I
think
it's
much
easier
to
be
much
easier
to
follow.
If
you've
got
the
specific
recommendations
in
front
of
you,
so
we'll
just
open
it
up
for
questions
and
comments.
B
L
Okay,
I
have
a
question
and
it's
really
more
about
what
is
the
city's
process
going
to
be
for
for
their
funds?
Like
my
understanding
from
buncombe
county
perspective,
is
I
think
that
there's
a
plan
around
opening
up
for
an
rfp-
and
so
I'm
just
wondering-
is
the
city
doing
that,
because
this
I
I
feel
a
little
bit
like
this-
is
a
little
bit
ahead
of
that,
because
we
don't
there
may
be
additional
projects
that
we're
interested
in
seeking
support
from
this
committee.
L
Just
like
we
heard
david
just
now,
so
I'm
just
wondering
if
the
city
is
talked
about
their
process.
If
they're
going
to
be
doing
an
rfp
for
the
totality
of
the
funds.
B
You
know
paul
I'm
going
to
let
you
speak
to
that.
I've
been
part
of
some
discussions
about
that
jim,
but
I
don't
know
that
there's
been
any
finals.
E
B
Made
about
that
process,
but
paul,
if
you
don't
mind
speaking
to
jim's
question
that
would
that
be
helpful.
C
Yeah
good
morning,
everybody
paul
d'angelo
here
with
community
development
at
the
city
of
asheville.
I
agree
with
brian
there.
I
don't
I've
heard
some
discussions,
but
I
don't
know
of
anything
formal
being
discussed
at
this
point.
C
We
can
certainly
you
know,
bring
information
back
or
share
once
we
do
hear
something
I
don't
want
to
to
do.
The
the
you
know
forward
tag,
but
I
don't
know
if
councilwoman
rony
knows
anything
about
this
at
all
either,
but
any
thoughts
there
kim.
A
A
The
reason
why
we
can't
just
go
ahead
and
make
a
recommendation,
I
mean
that
can
be
part
of
the
process
or
they
can
figure
it
out
in
the
process
I
mean.
What
we're
really
talking
about
is
is,
I
think,
conceptual
priorities.
A
We
do
have
some
specifics,
I.e
the
homeward
bounds
day
in
project
and
didn't.
We
have
help
yeah
help
mate.
B
Yes
and
councilwoman
roney,
please
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I
believe
the
housing
and
community
development
committee,
at
its
last
meeting
advanced
for
city
council
approval
later
in
june,
the
two
million
dollars
that
homer
bound
has
already
requested
for
the
days
in
projects.
So
this
this
would
be
an
endorsement
of
something
that's
already
underway
if
you
will,
but
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
speak.
G
So
that's
the
that
is
a
subcommittee
recommendation
to
the
full
council.
I
did
also
think
that
it
would
be
appropriate
to
share
that
top
four
retreat
goal,
as
adopted
by
the
full
council,
was
a
just
an
equitable
recovery
being
prioritized
with
the
covert
relief
american
relief
plan.
Spending.
B
Yeah,
I
I
think
you
know
I
would
much
rather
let
emily
speak
to
this,
because
she's,
the
one
that's
been
working
more
on
our
coordinated
entry
processes,
but
I
think
across
the
country
that
communities
are
not,
I
won't
say
fleeing,
but
the
bi
spadat,
which
is
the
vulnerability
index
objective
assessment
tool
that
many
communities
use
to
determine.
You
know
how
vulnerable
somebody
is,
so
we
can
prioritize
the
most
vulnerable
folks
for
housing
placement.
I
I
don't
know
that
it.
B
B
So
there's
there's
active
discussion
about
that
in
terms
of
the
emergency
rental
assistance.
I
think
the
urban
institute
tool
you
know
really
gives
a
clear
view
to
you
know
where
you
know
particular
communities
that
are
vulnerable
to
eviction.
B
It's
pretty
easy
to
discern
using
that
tool
on
the
emergency
rail
assistance,
but
you
know
figuring
out
the
the
prioritization
that
includes
every
risk
factor
that
that
possibly
can
be
certainly
you
know,
is
going
to
be
important.
I
I
I've
always
asserted
that
any
move
given
the
disproportionate
representation
of
bypoc
communities
in
our
homeless
population.
B
I
think
anything
that
we
do
to
advance
permanent
housing
for
the
homeless
population
advances
our
objectives,
community
objectives
around
equity,
so
I
I
think
that's
a
really
critical
component
of
this
as
well
and
again,
minor,
just
recommendations,
they're
sort
of
like
okay,
if
brian
could
wave
his
magic
wand,
I
mean
I
do
have
a
resolution
drafted
that
could
be
easily
amended
or
we
can.
We
could
take
this.
You
know
to,
as
as
our
chairperson
suggested.
B
You
know
if
we
could
have
a
task
force
that
gets
into
the
meat
of
this.
My
only
other
recommendation
would
be
that
you
know
whatever
recommendations
get
made,
that
they
be
specific,
and
you
know,
have
an
equity
consideration
in
there
that
there's
something
that
we
can
actually
measure
that
they're
going
to
produce
impact,
meaning
a
reduction
of
the
number
of
people
experiencing
homelessness,
that
they're,
accountable
and
and
results
oriented
and
time
bound.
So.
A
Well,
why
don't
we
back
up
just
a
minute?
Maybe
we
need
to
be
a
little
bit
less
open
with
this
I
mean:
what
do
we
okay,
so
the
first
issue
I
guess,
would
be:
do
we
want
to
make
a
recommendation
to
the
city
of
asheville
and
buncombe
county?
A
So
if
the
sense
of
the
committee
is
that
we
should
do
that,
can
we
have
a
motion
stating
that
we
should
do
that.
I
E
A
B
B
Yeah
we
should,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
so
david.
Your
your
emotion
is
that
the
committee
make
a
recommendation
about
use
of
arpa
funds
to
city
council
and
county
commission.
Is
that
correctly
stated.
B
A
Okay,
sure
so,
okay,
shall
we
have
a
roll
call
vote
on
that.
B
Paper
blew
up
on
my
desk,
so,
okay,
sarah,
I
support
amy.
F
E
B
A
B
David,
yes,
tara,
yes,
tim,
yes,
parker.
F
B
F
L
A
Okay,
okay,
so
excuse
me
david,
you
said
you
had
more
comments
on
how
that
should
be
done.
The
motion
passed
by
the
way.
Okay,
so
do
you
want
to
make
comments
or
have
a
motion
on
how
it
should
go
ahead?.
I
I
have
three
comments
and
I'll
just
make
them
all
together
and
then
shut
up,
but
one
is,
I
don't
think
we
should
recommend.
Particular
dollar
amounts.
I
don't
think
that's.
I
think
we
should
recommend
priorities
in
terms
of
projects.
I
think
the
projects
are
going
to
come
in
at
different
dollar
amounts.
They
may
be
more
than
maybe
less
and
I
don't
think
we
want
to
necessarily
be
saying
you
should
spend
two
million
dollars
each
to
support
the
days
in
motel.
I
I
The
third
one
is,
I
disagree
somewhat
with
brian
about
the
fact
that
just
creating
more
affordable
or
homeless
focused
units
will
help
solve
the
racial
equity
imbalance
in
our
services.
I
think
race,
neutral
solutions
do
not
solve
those
problems,
as
evidenced
by
the
vice,
but
that
which
is
technically
race
issue
space
neutral.
K
Yes
and
I'm
wondering
if
I
should
wait
a
little
bit
to
share,
I
wanted
to
get
into
a
discussion
about
the
current
hotel
situation
and
and
the
the
recognition
that
we've
got
a
large
number
of
people
who
will
very
soon
need
some
alternative
sheltering
options.
But
that
can
be
part
of
this
discussion.
But
I
think
right
now
we're
more
focused
on
on
the
resolution
itself,
and
so
I
can.
I
can
table
that
for
right
now,.
L
Okay
kind
of
second,
I
think
what
david
just
said
and
so
a
lot
of
his
comments.
I
really
did
agree
with
and
the
reason
that
I
voted
no
is
again
more
because
I
feel
like
we
need
to
get
a
little
bit
more
guidance.
I
feel
like
from
both
the
city
and
the
county
regarding
what
their
thought
process
our
processes
are
around.
L
These
funding
amounts,
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
there's
not
providers
that
potentially
would
also
like
to
be
on
this
priority
list
that
didn't
know
that
this
priority
list
was
being
developed
as
an
opportunity
to
be
to
be
recommended
or
considered.
So
that's
why
I
wanted
to
to
to
say
that
and
to
say
that
I
really
like
the
idea
of
maybe
us,
having
maybe
a
called
meeting
in
june,
to
give
us
that
extra
time
to
process
through
some
of
these
pieces.
B
Yeah,
I
I
think,
that's
fine
and
you
know
a
special
called
meeting
on
this.
That's
certainly
not
beyond
the
realm
of
possibility.
We
can
we
can.
We
can
make
that
happen,
and
I
agree
you
know
we
need
to
have
additional
input.
You
know
suggestions
I
made
were
just
to
stimulate
some
conversation
around
this,
so
you
know
you
know
I.
There
are
some
things
that
I
feel
strongly
about,
but
you
know
I
I'm
I'm
the
liaison
to
the
committee.
It's
really
the
committee
that
that
gets
to
advance
the
recommendations.
B
So,
but
I
do
agree
with
david.
You
know
in
in
his
his
comment.
You
know
just
the
creation
of
more
units
doesn't
really
in
and
of
itself
doesn't
address
some
of
the
equity
concerns
and
and
figuring
out
how
we
build
that
into
any
recommendations
related
to
housing.
You
know
that
that's
worthy
of
a
discussion
in
and
of
itself
so.
A
Shall
we
go
ahead
with
a
task
force
design
directed
to
meet
in
the
interim
to
come
up
with
some
more
specific
proposals?
H
Yes,
definitely,
this
kind
of
the
the
equity
point
will
flow
right
into
the
establishment
of
the
task
force.
I
believe
that
we
do
need
to
not
have
a
race
neutral
approach
even
from
the
beginning,
and
so
I
would
encourage
membership
on
the
task
force
from
marginalized
communities
also,
so
that
we
can
hear
directly.
You
know
david,
as
he
mentioned,
has
a
lot
of
experience
in
understanding
that
just
the
creation
of
more
units.
So
I
think
if
we
have
that
in
mind
at
the
outset,
I'd
also
like
to
see
some
data
presented.
H
Brian.
I
think
you
mentioned
that
there
that
marginalized
communities
are
disproportionately
affected.
I
think
seeing
that
would
also
help
sort
of
form
form
our
own
committee's
ideas.
Apart
from
what
the
the
city
and
county
see
where
we
come
at
it
from
a
different
direction,
so
we
just
might
be
able
to
to
amplify
our
strengths
rather
than
you
know,
slow
the
city
or
the
county
down
by
our
lack
of
education.
I
I'd
really
like
to
see
some
data
on.
That
would
be
helpful.
H
I
trust
you
and
emily
and
meredith
and
david
particularly
what
you
think
would
be
helpful
in
educating
us
to
the
to
the
issues
now.
I
know
the
point
in
time.
Count
is
really
helpful,
but
going
back
to
not
being
race
neutral.
I
think
we
just
need
to
uncover
what
that
really
looks
like
in
our
community.
I
I
think
it
to
me
just
to
respond
quickly
to
that
sarah,
it
seems
like
it
would
be
helpful
to
know
where,
in
our
system
the
people
of
color
are.
You
know,
if
they're
in
shelter,
if
they're
on
the
street,
if
they're
in
transitional
housing,
you
know
where,
where
are
they
in
the
systems,
not
necessarily
individual
by
individual,
so
that
we
kind
of
know
where
to
focus
our
energy?
I
E
B
Some
of
that
we
already
know,
you
know
you
know.
Bipod
communities
tend
to
be
more
on
the
sheltered
side
than
the
unsheltered
side.
I
haven't
drilled
down
deep
enough
in
this
year's
data
to
say
that
the
trend
continued
this
year,
but
they,
those
communities,
have
typically
been
the
on
the
sheltered
side
of
the
count.
But
you
know
this
has
been
a
priority
for
hud
in
the
last.
You
know
two
funding
cycles
for
a
continuum
of
care,
and
you
know
at
the
beginning
of
2020.
B
I
actually
had
a
a
plan
to
how
we
were
going
to
dig
into
this,
and
you
know
really
think
about
it
and
look
for
where
you
know
are:
are
people
of
color
are
do
they
are?
Are
they
having
different
outcomes
in
that
system
of
care?
Are
they
getting
housed
at
the
same
rates
or
are
they
retaining
housing
at
the
same
rates?
You
know
just
that.
That
really
is
has
been
critical
for
hud,
and
then
you
know,
of
course,
march
of
2020.
B
This
pandemic
came
along
and
a
lot
of
things
that
I
had
hoped
to
work
on
and
make
some
progress
on
last
year.
This
didn't
happen,
but
but
I
I
think
we
can
drill
down
into
that
data
and
I
think
it's
going
to
be
an
expectation
that
that
hud
wants
us
to
really
take
into
consideration
in
the
continuum
of
care
funding
process
for
this
year.
J
Brian,
this
is
tim,
and
I
think
that-
and
I
love
what
you
know
both
you
guys
just
said.
I
think
you
know
if,
if
minority
housing
is
going
to
be
the
focus,
we
also
need
to
drill
down
into
that
a
little
deeper
and
look
at
okay.
So
minority
is
the
focus,
but
within
that
subcategory,
look
at
chronicity
of
homelessness
and
you
know
age
and
you
know
family.
J
You
know
marital
status
whatever
you
know,
however,
you
want
word
that,
but
you
know
really
look
at
those
subcategories
and
and
focus
our
efforts
around.
You
know
those
sub
demographics
and
that
sort
of
thing-
and
I
think
it
and
I
think
what
she
said
earlier
about
the
bias
for
that
is
correct.
J
I
mean
we
started
using
that
back
in
you
know:
2014
15,
yes,
something
like
that
and
I
think
the
process
has
evolved
and
we've
learned
so
much
that
it's
probably
time
that
we
do
look
at
another
tool
to
you
know
make
better
assessments
in
you
know
who
we're
housing,
and
you
know
that
sort
of
thing
yeah.
You
know
through
this
process
too.
I
think
recidivism
is
very
important
too,
because
we
need
to
look
at
steps
to
once
we
get
people
in
housing
to
keep
them
in
housing.
You
know
it's
it's.
J
B
Think
the
prevention
side,
especially
for
for
those
that
we
know,
are
at
risk
because
they've
been
homeless
before
is
going
to
be
really
important
and
part
of
that
is
just
having
the
appropriate
level
of
supportive
service
wrapped
around
people
once
they
do
get
housed
that
that
you
know
very
retention
focused-
and
I
you
know
I
know
homeward
bound-
does
that
I'm
sure
you
guys
do
it
as
well
tim
and
other
other
agencies
too,
so
paul,
I,
you
know
there
were
some
questions
that
came
up
with
the
cdbg
cv.
B
Funding
around
you
know,
you
know
just
equitable
concerns
is
it?
Can
you
recall
sort
of
what
we
learned
with
that
particular
federal
source
of
funding
and
some
of
the
questions
that
that
came
up
around
equity
and
use
of
those
dollars.
C
Now
it's
a
really
good
point,
brian,
and
thanks
for
that
there
has
been
I'm
sure
some
of
y'all
are
aware,
like
kind
of
continual
guidance
that
keeps
coming
out
about
cdbg
cb
and
the
regs
and
compliance,
including
the
equity
discussion.
We
were
able
to
hire
an
administrator
to
help
out
with
some
of
those
funds.
Her
name
is
laura
near.
I
think
a
few
of
you
have
met
her
who's,
going
to
be
working
in
partnership
with
particularly
episco-legal
and
homeward-bound
on
the
contracts
and
moving
that
money.
C
We
just
had
a
long
meeting
yesterday
and
she
has
been
tasked
to
come
up
with
a
summary
of
some
of
these
additional
rags
that
have
come
out
over
the
last.
I
guess
two
to
four
to
six
weeks,
so
I
can
bring
back
additional
information,
but
we
talked
about
that
brian
to
make
sure
we're
getting
a
grip
on
this
additional
guidance
and
compliance
issues,
but
particularly
how
to
make
this
more
equitable.
So
we
will
have
something,
especially
if
you
all
end
up
calling
a
a
special
meeting.
A
A
Yes,
okay,
so
do
we
can
we
get
a
motion
to
appoint
a
task
force?
Now?
I
will
also
say
I
believe,
per
our
bylaws
and
general
conflict
of
interest
rules.
A
E
B
It
would
be
up
to
the
committee's
discretion.
If
I
read
the
bylaws
correctly,
you
know
whether
or
not
that
person
could
participate
and
or
vote.
I
I
think
we
need
input
from
service
providers.
B
You
know
clearly
they're
going
to
be
the
ones
that
are
doing
this
work
in
the
community,
but
I
think
you
know
anybody
that
has
the
the
intent
to
apply
for
any
of
these
funds.
I
think
we've
got
to
be
careful
about
making
sure
that
those
disclosures
are
made
and
that
you
know
if
a
vote
ever
comes
up
on
any
of
this
advancing
out
of
this
committee
that
that
you
know
folks
who
intend
to
apply,
may
need
to
recuse
and
paul
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
on
any
of
that.
A
K
L
K
The
purposes
of
identifying
recommendations
for
arpa.
E
B
Shall
indeed,
sarah.
L
B
E
B
F
F
D
G
Point
of
order-
this
is
kim.
I
have
just
a
quick
question
about
rules
of
procedure.
It's
my
understanding
that
we
don't
have
abstention
as
an
option
for
votes.
Their
folks
can
be
recused
if
they
have
a
conflict
of
interest.
Anyone
who
chooses
not
to
vote
their
event
will
be
counted
as
a
yes.
Am
I
clear
in
that
as
well
for
process.
B
I
I
don't
think
that's
in
our
bylaws,
madam
chair.
G
Understanding
that
that
would
be
regarding
to
city,
county
and
state
rules
for
boards
and
commissions
that
are
advisory.
G
Yeah
recusals
have
to
be
voted
on
by
the
group.
If
there
is
a
conflict
of
interest,
then
anyone
who
needs
to
be
recused
would
have
to
give
their
reason,
and
then
that
would
have
to
be
approved.
B
Well,
should
we
shall
we
go
back
to
the
to
the
folks
who
initiated
so
sarah?
Is
there
a?
Is
there
a
particular
reason
why
you
would
choose
to
be
recused
from
this
particular
vote.
H
H
B
Okay,
do
you
want
to
change
from
abstention
to
recusal.
H
I'll
vote.
No,
I
I'm
just
concerned
about
the
makeup
of
the
task
force.
We
haven't
talked
about
the
membership
of
that
specifically,
so
now
that
we've
approved
it,
I'm
afraid
we're
just
gonna
continue
with
the
same
the
same
makeup.
So
that's
that's
my
concern.
I
do
support
the
task
force,
but
I
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
equitable
representation
and-
and
we
haven't
fleshed
that
out
so.
B
Okay
and
then
janna,
I
you,
you
were
also
a
recusal.
L
Yeah-
and
I
do
think
I'd
like
to
recuse-
and
I
my
limited
knowledge
of
rules
of
procedure
just
because
I
am
a
county
employee,
I
am
hesitant
to
provide
guidance
in
my
role
here
to
the
commission
to
like
a
potential
recommendation
as
a
voted
member
on
this
board.
D
E
A
B
We
do
indeed
sarah
you,
I
think,
since
you
bowed
out
of
the
first
round,
I
think
you
gotta
buy
out
of
this
one
as
well
so
amy,
yes,
tamiya.
B
D
F
B
F
B
Okay,
sarah,
do
you
have
some
ideas
or
suggestions
that
you
would
like
to
make
about
the
composition
of
a
task
force.
I'd,
be
curious
to
know
what
what
your
thoughts
are
around
that.
H
I
do
I
I.
I
would
imagine
that
our
housing
folks
work
with
community
advocates
who
are
well
connected
to
the
communities
who
most
need
service.
So
as
far
as
actual
names.
No,
I
don't.
I
just
know
that
I'm
sorry
I
I
know
there
are
other
housing
providers
on
here.
J
Sarah,
this
is
tim
did
I
did.
I
hear
you
earlier
say
that
you
would
like
to
see
minority
representation
on
the
task
force
as
well.
H
I
did
so
if
we're
looking
at
the
data
of
the
task
with
the
the
data
that
the
task
force
is
going
to
be
using
that
david
and
brian
mentioned
as
far
as
drilling
down
into
who's,
who
is
traditionally
impacted
and
doesn't
need
or
would
benefit
from
non-traditional
supports,
which
we
have
the
opportunity
to
do
with.
H
All
of
these
funds
is
to
change
the
regular
paradigm,
but
you
know,
proportionately
represented
according
to
what
that
that,
with
those
data
sets
that
they're
going
to
be
considering,
say,
I
think
david
mentioned
knowing
where
folks
are
located
in
the
system.
We
had
a
bit
of
discussion
about
that.
So,
if
it
is
in
shelter,
if
we
would
have
a
representative
from
a
marginalized
populist
population
from
the
shelter
group,
I
would
recommend,
for
example,
a
task
force
position
being
held
for
them.
J
I
would
agree
with
that
as
well.
If
we're
going
to
focus
on
or
you
know,
one
of
the
big
priorities
is
going
to
be.
You
know
minority
placements,
then
certainly,
I
think
that
we
should
have
you
know
representation
of
that
on
the
task
force.
B
And
so
tim
potentially
we
could
include
somebody,
that's
you
know
at
brq
or
meredith,
somebody
that
we
know
from
a
hope
or
david,
some
of
some
of
your
existing
residents
that
that
what
you
have
in
mind.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
kind
of
understand
you
know
what
what
sarah's
trying
to
achieve
here
and
just
that
that
you
know
we
we've
got
folks
that
could
be
identified
and
available
and
accessible
to
to
meet
and
discuss
these
issues.
K
I
think
we
could
certainly
identify
individuals
we're
actually
doing
some
of
that
work
in
creating
a
committee
internally
for
homeward
bound.
But
I
would
recommend
not
just
those
with
lived
experience,
but
someone
who
is
currently
housed,
but
a
client
and
receiving
services,
and
at
least
one
person
who
is
unhoused
so
that
you
have
both
represented.
E
J
I'd
agree
with
that
too,
and-
and
certainly
you
know
with
the
conversation
that
we
had
earlier
about
focus
on
housing
retention
as
well,
I
would
certainly
you
know,
go
along
with
what
you
just
said,
meredith
and
want
to
hear
from
people
that
you
know
have
been
homeless
and
placed
in
housing
and
have
been
successful
in
that
to
hear
from
them.
You
know
these
are
the
the
things
that
were
important
for
me
to
you
know,
retain
my
housing
or
supports
that
I
needed
in
retention
so
and
add
and
put
some
value
adds
there.
B
And
meredith
just
so,
I
understand
you
clearly
to
have
somebody
that's
you
know
already
housed
in
receiving
services,
but
and
but
somebody
who's
not
housed,
or
do
you
mean
specifically
someone
who
is
unsheltered
or
somebody
who
doesn't
have
permanent
housing
that
is
currently
sheltered
at
vr
cube,
for
example,.
K
A
B
I
I'll
throw
this
out
there
for
discussion
yeah.
Maybe
it's
something
along
the
lines
of
a
focus
group,
something
you
know
jim.
If
you've
got
you
know
particular
folks
at
vrq,
for
example,
we
could
get
a
focus
group
of
maybe
five
or
six
folks
and
and
meredith.
You
know,
focus
group.
You
know
some
folks
from
a
hope.
You
know
kind
of
do
this
in
in
you
know.
B
Three
different
groups
have
some
just
some
open-ended
discussion,
but
as
well
as
pose
some
specific
questions,
do
you
have
a
residence
association
that
meets
regularly
or.
K
I
I
do
and
I
can
ask
them-
I
think
they
have
a
lot
on
their
plate
too,
so
I
don't
want
to
commit
them
to
that.
You
can
ask,
and
I'm
looking
at
to
me
and
wondering
about
some-
maybe
an
internal
focus
group.
I
J
B
You
know
I
I
mean
strictly
from
a
procedural
standpoint.
You
know
we
haven't,
you
know,
been
able
to
get
back
into
our
bylaws
and
dissolve
the
existing
standing
committees
and
and
there's
not
really
a
provision
for
appointing
task
forces.
But
you
know
we
have
appointed
work
groups
before
I.
I
think,
and.
B
Yeah
so
suggestions
anybody,
I
you
know
I
have
ideas,
but
I
want
to
hear
from
y'all.
A
I
So,
let's
my
suggestion
is
to
start
with,
we
keep
it
small
people
who
talk
with
brian
and
I'm
going
to
recuse
the
housing
authority
from
it,
because
we
have
a
project
that
I
would
like
to
have
considered,
but
I
thank
you
know,
maybe
two
or
three
people
to
to
brainstorm
with
brian
and
gather
this
other
information
and
other
representation.
I
B
True,
so
would
sarah
and
david
and
meredith
and
tim
could
y'all,
improv
and
tamiya?
Could
y'all
in
particular
be
available,
maybe
sometime
next
week,
just
to
have
a
30-minute
discussion
among
ourselves
and
sort
of
figure
out
the
approach
that
we
want
to
have
maybe
some
questions
to
bring
to
focus
groups
at
each
of
these
particular
groups
that
might
be
available
with
some
of
these
providers?
What
would
that
be
a
logical
next
step
for
you
guys
just
for
us
to
brainstorm
real
quickly
around
that
and
and
at
least
get
things
moving.
B
B
Okay,
so
I
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
pull
a
call
together.
That'll
include
tim
and
david
and
tamiya
and
meredith
and
sarah,
if
you're
willing
to
participate
in
that.
You
know
sometime.
You
know
as
soon
as
we
can
possibly
do
it
next
week
and
then
we'll
figure
out
sort
of
what
the
process
of
soliciting
input
from
these
various
groups
and
that
you
know
could
be
accessed
through
through
key
providers
in
the
community
to
include
people
of
color.
A
B
E
Like
to
yeah,
I
was
going
to
actually
say
something
like
I
said:
success
story
myself
through
the
whole
entire
system.
This
whole
time.
E
Yeah
from
homelessness
to
now
and
being
on
the
hayek
meeting
committing
with
you
all,
I
do
think
after
all
these
years.
I
do
have
something
to
add
to
this.
I.
B
I
absolutely
agree
randy
and
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
you're
here
so
I
think
you've
got
a
vital
role.
So,
yes,
consider
yourself
included.
Okay,
thank
you.
F
Yeah
it's
my
last
meeting
with
hayak,
but
whoever
will
be
replacing
me
may
want
to
be
involved,
I'm
not
sure
either
way
I'll
send
along
the
data.
I
have
from
the
cv
funds
that
we
were
administering
we've
already
got
the
demographic
breakdown
from
the
first
contract.
We
don't
have
the
second
one
yet,
but
that
one
served
65
percent
people
of
color,
so
I'll
send
around
what
we
have
in
case.
It's
useful.
Oh.
B
Well,
that
sounds
like
the
step
for
this
particular
item
and
as
as
parker
mentioned,
we
haven't
made
a
formal
announcement
to
the
group,
but
he
is
going
to
be
moving
on
to
a
different
assignment.
She
and
I
have
had
some
discussions
about
a
potential
replacement
from
pisgah
legal
services,
who
I
think
might
also
be
on
the
call
today.
But
parker.
F
D
D
Hi,
this
is
christina
harris.
We
do
not
have
any
speakers
in
the
queue
for
public
comment
this
morning,
so
yeah
no
public
comments.
Okay,.
A
So
if
there's
no
other
business,
we
can
adjourn.