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From YouTube: Board of Adjustment – Part 2
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June 22, 2020
A
B
You
sorry,
a
few
technical
difficulties
meeting
will
now
come
to
order.
Welcome
to
the
June
22nd
2020
city
of
Asheville
Board
of
Adjustment
meeting.
My
name
is
Philip
Arden
and
I'm.
The
chair
of
the
board,
the
Board
of
Adjustment,
is
a
quasi
judicial
body
that
is
governed
by
the
North
Carolina
General
Statutes
and
the
cities
unified
development
ordinance.
We
are
authorized
to
your
request
for
variances
from
the
city's
unified
development.
Ordinance
appeals
from
final
determinations
made
by
city
staff,
charged
with
enforcement
of
the
city's
unified
development,
ordinance
requests
for
reasonable
accommodations.
B
Another
request,
as
may
be
provided
by
city
ordinances
committee,
meet
all
board.
Members
and
staff
are
participating
virtually.
We
appreciate
your
patience
as
we
work
through
the
through
board
meetings
and
a
little
bit
differently.
We're
streaming
live
on
our
virtual
engagement
hub,
which
is
accessible
through
the
virtual
engagement
hub
link
on
the
front
page
of
the
city
website,
and
also
linked
on
the
Board
of
Adjustment
web
page.
B
We
also
have
an
option
for
the
public
to
listen,
live
by
phone
you'll,
dial,
eight,
five,
five,
nine
two
five,
two:
eight
zero
one
and
when
prompted
enter
code,
nine
one,
two
five.
Once
again,
that
is
eight
five:
five,
nine
two
five
two
eight
zero
one
with
the
code
of
nine
one,
two
five,
the
automated
system
will
ask
you
to
press
star
three
to
be
heard
for
those
of
you
out
there
with
us
today.
We
welcome
you.
B
I
will
now
go
through
and
introduce
all
the
board
members
who
are
participating
virtually
please
make
sure
to
mute
your
microphone
if
you're,
not
speaking
when
you
have
a
question
and
we're
like
to
speak,
unmute
your
microphone
at
that
time.
Please
remember
to
mute
your
phone
after
you're
done
speaking.
Also
the
board
members
as
I
call
your
name.
Please
say
a
quick
hello,
pratik
vodka,
hello,
Daniel,
summerlin,
hello,
John,
Michael,
Clayton,
hello
and
Paul.
Will
it
ski
Paul
also
with
us
today?
B
Is
our
city
attorney
Eric
Edgerton
an
alternate
board
member
Rob,
Carol
F,
who
will
be
in
attendance
as
a
backup
in
case
of
any
of
our
current
seated
board
members?
Have
any
technical
troubles
also
asked
anyone
speaking
today,
including
staff
to
state
their
names
and
titles
before
speaking,
to
help
our
audience
follow
along
I'll
state
each
section
of
the
agenda
aloud
and
do
a
voice,
roll
call
for
each
vote
vote
additionally,
I
ask
the
committee
members
to
raise
their
hand
to
speak
and
I'll
call
upon
them.
B
B
We
now
begin
the
evidentiary
hearing
for
the
cases
list
on
the
agenda.
In
hearing
cases
the
board
conducts
a
quasi
just
judicial,
evident
or
hearing
that
means
it's
like
a
court
hearing.
State
law
sets
specific
procedures
and
rules
concerning
how
this
board
must
make
its
decisions.
These
rules
are
different
from
other
some
other
types
of
land-use
decisions
like
rezoning
cases,
which
are
legislative
in
nature.
The
Board's
decisions
are
constrained
by
the
standards
and
city's
ordinance
and
the
facts
presented
at
the
hearing
the
board
hears
and
considers
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing.
B
An
applied
standards
set
forth
in
state
law
in
the
city's
ordinance.
The
board
must
basis
decisions
upon
competent
material
and
substantial
evidence
presented
at
the
hearing.
If
you
will
be
speaking
as
a
witness,
please
focus
on
the
facts
and
the
standards,
not
personal
preference
or
opinion.
The
participation
is
limited.
This
meeting
is
open
to
the
public.
Everyone
is
welcome.
To
watch
parties
have
rights
to
participate
fully.
B
Parties
may
present
evidence
call
witnesses
and
make
legal
arguments.
Witnesses
may
testify
as
to
the
facts
for
which
they
are
competent
to
testify
so
long
as
these
facts
relate
to
the
legal
standards.
In
addition,
layer,
non
expert,
witness
testimony,
is
limited
into
facts
and
not
opinions
for
certain
topics.
This
board
needs
to
hear
opinion
testimony
from
expert
witnesses.
These
topics
include
projections
about
impacts
on
property
values
and
projections
about
impacts
on
traffic
safety,
for
variance
request.
B
A
4/5
vote
of
the
board
is
required
to
grant
the
variance
for
all
other
hearings
of
matters,
including
the
adoption
of
minutes.
The
decision
will
be
made
by
simple
majority
of
the
board.
Witnesses
must
swear,
affirm
their
testimony
this
time.
We'll
look
mister,
though,
for
all
individuals
who
intend
to
provide
witness
testimony.
So
if
you
intend
to
speak
today,
we
want
a
perfect
administered,
the
other
to
you
right
now
and
I
believe
that
would
be
Shannon
and
Matt
and
Ricky
from
the
city
right
now
and
Shannon
will
be
okay,
go
ahead
and
miss
her.
C
B
C
B
B
D
E
B
B
All
right,
so
the
first
item
on
the
agenda
is
a
variance
request.
Ken
Gaylord,
on
behalf
of
Brian
Luce,
is
requesting
a
variance
to
section
7,
8
3
yard
standards
of
the
you
do
to
reduce
the
front
setback,
requirements
for
property
located
at
17
and
61
de
Soto
Street
identified
a
Buncombe
County
tax
record
is
pin
nine
six
three
eight
two
six
three
three
one
and
nine
six,
three,
eight
eight,
two,
nine
one,
seven
five
I
think
Matt
is
gonna
present
for
the
city.
F
F
As
Phillips
at
the
petitioner
Ken
Gaylord
on
behalf
of
the
property
owner,
Brian
Lewis
is
requesting
a
variance
to
section
7,
8
3,
F
5
of
the
unified
development
ordinance
to
seek
relief
from
the
minimum
front
yard
setback
for
the
RS
for
residential
single-family,
medium
density,
zoning
district
grace.
We
need
advance
to
slide
2,
please
slide.
2
shows
you.
There
is
a
25-foot
front
setback
currently
required
by
IRS
for
in
the
RS
4
zoning
district.
F
F
F
F
Additionally,
this
placement
results
in
a
shorter
foundation
while
reducing
the
overall
height.
Now
the
steep
slope
does
allow
for
administrative
reductions
in
the
front
setback
in
RS
4.
The
steep
slope
standards
do
allow
for
a
25
foot
front
setback
to
be
reduced
to
15
feet.
However,
again,
this
is
not
in
steep
slope.
F
Adjacent
properties,
as
you
can
see,
on
this
map,
adjacent
properties
across
the
street
from
de
soda
is
Rs
2
and
most
likely
this
property
and
the
property
across
the
street.
Dar
s,
2
or
xodar,
is
for
NARS,
because
they're
fairly
steep
properties
with
the
stream
and
stream
buffer,
and
you
can
see
their
majority
of
the
zoning
around
it
as
RSA
surrounding
that.
So
it's
everything
shown
in
and
a
little
bit
to
the
right,
there's
the
Duke
substation
there
and
the
to
the
east
or
to
the
right
on
that
mouth
there
and
that
is
zoned
rad.
B
F
It's
it's
basically,
it
says
you
know
a
couple
things:
first,
you're
in
steep
slope,
if
you're
above
15%
grade
we're
slow
and
2220
and
then
so
built-in
are
these
administrative
reductions.
If
they
could
show
and
demonstrate
that
they
would
grade
less
there'd,
be
less
disturbance,
less
tree
removal,
and
it
just
made
sense
from
the
topography
of
the
land.
Then
we
would
most
likely
grant
administrative
request
like
that
short.
So.
H
You
so
I
am,
as
I
said,
I'm
the
architect
for
the
petitioner
or
the
petitioner
is
Brian.
Louis
MD,
who
is
co-founder
of
integrative
family
medicine
of
Asheville
when
Brian's
personal
home
is,
is
the
first
wat
adjacent
to
17-2
soda.
That's
where
he
has
lived
for
years
and
I.
The
one
house
that
were
showing
on
17
to
soda
would
be
a
new
house
for
him,
so
he
currently
lives
a
Jason
to
this
property.
H
He
is
anticipating
an
expansion
of
his
family,
and
so
a
new
house
for
him
would
be
right
in
the
sharp
bend
of
the
road
there.
The
other
four
houses
Ricky.
Can
you
bring
up
the
site
plan
and
also
the
cross-sections
there
we
go.
Thank
you
so
the
house
there
on
the
left
and
the
sharp
end
that
would
be
a
personal
residence
for
Brian
Lewis
and
then
the
other
four
are
projected
to
be
affordable,
housing,
rental
units.
H
H
What
we're
trying
to
do
that
that
area
in
green
in
the
center,
that
is
the
stream
buffer?
What
we're
trying
to
do
is
build
houses
while
having
minimum
minimal
impact
on
the
natural,
the
natural
ecosystem,
which
would
include
this
stream
and
it's
quite
heavily
forested
off
of
these
banks.
So
there's
there's
a
number
of
mature
trees
and
we'd
like
to
preserve
as
many
of
them
as
possible.
H
If
you
can,
we
pull
up
the
the
breaking
the
sections
there
we
go
so
the
the
top
section
on
the
Left
shows
the
steep
Bank
with
a
typical
slope.
It
shows
a
15-foot
front
setback,
that's
from
not
from
the
road
but
from
the
right-of-way,
which
is
where
the
setback
is
measured
from
and
you
can
see
even
with
the
15
foot
setback.
H
H
H
C
I
might
be
pre-empting
Eric
with
this
comment,
but
just
just
so
the
board
knows
that,
while
it
may
very
well
be
the
petitioners
intent
to
build
affordable
housing,
any
variance
approval
should
the
board
support.
This
would
not
condition
these
homes
to
meet
any
kind
of
affordability
standard.
So
the
approval
is
based
on
the
plans
that
are
provided
and
not
not
really
anything
more
than
that.
B
H
Mr.
Hartman,
it's
a
good
question.
17
DeSoto
is
is
the
one
in
the
sharp
bend
in
the
road
and
you
can
see
the
home
that
we're
showing
there
and
these
homes
have
not
been
designed.
We
can't
really
design
them
until
we
know
what
our
setback
requirement
is,
but,
ironically,
the
topography
at
the
petitioners
home
they're
at
the
type
end
and
the
road,
that's
the
steepest
topography
on
all
of
it,
and
so
whatever
benefit
we
get
from
this
from
the
fall.
H
The
four
rental
units
that
benefit
would
be
increased
because
of
the
severe
tebah
topography
on
the
site
worthy.
The
petitioners
house
is
projected
to
go
and-
and
one
other
note
about
the
steepness-
the
reason
it's
so
steep
I
mean
this.
This
drawing
does
not
show
the
other
side
of
the
street,
but
the
reason
it's
so
steep
is
because,
when
this
road
was
put
in
several
decades
ago,
it
was
all
cotton
filled.
H
So,
on
the
other
side
of
the
road
there's
a
steep
dirt
cut
where
they
were,
they
cut
into
the
side
of
the
hill,
and
then
they
took
that
dirt
that
they
cut
out
of
the
mountainside
and
they
pushed
it
over
the
edge
to
form
the
low
side
of
the
road.
That's
why
it's
so
steep!
It's
not
it's!
Not
the
natural
grade.
That's
I
mean
the
natural
grade
had
a
steepness
of
its
own,
but
then,
when
they
built
the
road
they
made
it
considerably
worse.
I
H
It
will
that's
a
good
question,
it
will
definitely
be
costlier
and
it
will
have
a
far
more
significant
negative
impact
on
the
that
the
ecosystem.
That's
part
of
that
little
Valley,
whether
whether
our
client
would
go
forward
I
can't
say
for
sure,
I
think
it
would
be
possible,
but
it
would
definitely
add
to
the
cost
which
what
would
would
work
against
this
goal
to
make
this
housing
as
affordable
as
possible.
I
H
B
H
E
C
I,
so
in
the
past,
when
the
board
is
heard
case
is
something
like
this
I
mean
one
of
the
things
that
we
look
at.
If
we
go
back
to
the
cross-section,
is
the
petitioner
is
planning
on
building
I,
believe
a
two-story
home?
Is
that
correct
mr.
Gaylord
correct
and
the
effect
of
building
it?
If
you
build
a
two-story
home
adhering
to
the
25
foot
front
setback,
you
end
up
with
a
full
story
or
taller
foundation
below
so
sometimes
what
we
look
at
is
even
if
something
is
technically
possible.
C
You
know
we
work
within
what
is
normal
construction
practices,
typically
so
I
mean
with
modern
design
and
technology
and
materials
available.
You
know
practically
anything
is
possible,
but
you
look
at
like
what's
practical,
what's
reasonable,
what's
consistent
with
the
development
pattern
in
the
area,
for
what
that's
worth
just
provide
a
little
context.
J
I'm
gonna
go
back
to
the
stream
buffer
issue
because
you
mention
it
in
in
a
few
of
your
answers
to
the
standards
for
reading
variance
questions.
What
what
is
what
is
the
difference
between
the
the
street
buffer
at
25,
feet
and
15
feet,
which
is
to
say
I,
was
how
is
it
better
for
the
stream
buffer?
If
you
will
15
feet.
H
H
The
the
house
has
become
they're,
still
not
easy
to
build
on
a
steep
slope
like
that,
but
they
become
now
I'm,
excessively
difficult
and
costly
in
terms
of
foundation.
So
that's
a
win
and
then
by
not
pushing
the
house
further
down
the
bank
not
having
to
move
more
earth
and
not
being
pushing
it
closer
to
the
stream,
we're
helping
to
maintain
the
integrity
of
that
stream.
And
if
you
were
to
go
by
there
and
take
a
look
which
I
would
invite
any
of
you
to
do.
H
It's
really
quite
beautiful
that
it's
almost
like
a
park
down
there
when
Brian
purchased
the
property
I
believe
11
or
12
years
ago.
People
had
used
this
as
a
dumping
ground
for
years
and
he
cleared
out
I,
don't
know
how
many
truckloads
of
old,
tire
and
refrigerators
and
washing
machines
and
he's
made
it
exceptionally
beautiful,
and
so
of
course
we
want
to
go
even
further
in
that
direction
and
not
compromise
the
beauty.
That's
that's
been
created.
J
And
this
is
all
vegan
effectively.
He
testified
that
it
would
be,
it
would
be
likely
if
this
were
covered.
It
was
deep
under
the
steep
slope
apartments
that
they
would
give.
The
administrative
remedy
is,
is
one
positive
to
be
and
I
looked
at
the
axis
for
the
four
questions
about
granting
a
variance
and
it's
Laurie
without
going
through
them,
one
by
one
at
least
to
me.
They
all
seem
to
to
answer
the
question
positively.
B
I
You're,
going
back
to
the
standards
of
granting
a
variance,
yeah
I,
agree
that,
in
my
opinion,
three
of
the
four
had
been
met.
I
still
have
an
issue
was
the
first
one
that
is
unnecessary.
Hardship
would
result
from
the
strict
application
of
the
ordinance
I've.
You
know,
based
on
the
answers
I
received,
I
believe
it.
You
know
it
could
be
done.
You
know
monetary,
you
know
cost
and
what
the
end
product
and
how
it
will
be
determined
or
be
rented.
I
It's
not
something
that
we
can
take
into
account
and
I
feel
you
know
it
still
can
be
done
within
the
requirements.
So
I,
you
know,
for
me,
I,
don't
think
the
the
number
one
is
is
really
being
met
with
the
strict
application
of
the
ordinance
I
believe
that
there
is
a
hardship,
but
you
know,
given
these
four
requirements,
I
would
say,
in
my
opinion
that
the
first
one
has
not
been
met.
B
G
B
B
B
L
B
J
J
B
K
You
chairman
all
right,
so
this
is
a
sidewalk
variance
request
for
the
address
of
five
rock
cliffs,
but
this
parcel
is
it's
bordered
by
two
city
streets
with
Choctaw
being
the
one
we're
talking
about
today,
so
Jason.
If
you'll
move
to
the
first
slide
for
me,
okay,
so
the
petitioner
Suzanne
Godse
on
behalf
of
the
five
rock
cliff
place
LLC,
is
requesting
a
variance
to
the
section
7
11
8
sidewalk
requirements
of
the
you
know
unified
development
ordinance
to
seek
a
partial
relief
of
the
required
sidewalk.
K
K
The
reported
variance
is
for
about
a
hundred
and
seventy-five
feet
of
sidewalk.
That
would
be
filled
in
a
gap
on
the
eastern
portion
of
this
lot
on
the
north
side
of
parcel
next
slide,
please
Jason,
so
just
for
orientation
just
to
show
you
all.
This
is
rock
cliff.
This
is
looking
west
next
one
please-
and
this
is
again
looking
east
as
if
ADIZ
the
other
side
of
the
parcel
looking
toward
the
building
and
next
slide,
please
Jason,
probably
more
interest
to
us
is
exhibit
E.
K
K
This
is
the
main
entrance
off
of
chopped
Hall
and
you
can
see.
There's
not
a
sidewalk
in
this
area
on
either
side
of
the
driveway
and
proceeding
westward
and
last
slide.
Please
Jason
and
I
believe
I
don't
want
to
take.
Maybe
Suzanne
has
more
information,
but
I
think
this
is
the
approximate
area
of
the
rock
bluff.
This
is
all
street
views
here
for
everybody,
and
so
this
is
the
only
right
now.
K
There's
a
sidewalk
on
the
western
end,
but
it
may
be.
We
haven't
done
a
level
one
review
yet
on
the
site,
honestly,
I'm,
not
sure
if
the
walk,
if
that
it
Jason,
we
back
up
a
couple
pictures
for
me,
please
yeah.
Typically,
a
backhoe
curb
sidewalk
is
six
feet
wide
in
the
city.
I,
don't
know
if
that
is
a
three
foot
or
a
four
foot,
or
maybe
it's
wider,
that's
covered
by
you
know
either
soil
creep
or
vegetation.
We
haven't
been
out
there
to
dig
into
that,
but
that
looks
very
narrow.
K
So
typically,
if,
if
it's
a
three
or
four
foot
wide
sidewalk
we'd
want
them
to
go
ahead
and
widen,
widen
that
on
out
to
six
feet
back
a
curb,
so
that
could
be
potentially
a
wholesale
deviation
there.
But
again
we
haven't
got
into
that
part,
and
maybe
miss
Godsey
knows
that
detail
on
the
ground
as
well.
K
B
K
M
The
balance
of
that
is
this
outcrop
area,
which
is
what
we
are
requesting
for
a
variance
and
I
know.
You
may
have
some
more
questions
for
Ricky,
but
if
Jason
you
go
ahead
to
look
at
our
documentation
that
we
submitted
for
the
variance
I,
have
some
photos
and
then
they're
kind
of
key
to
the
location
based
on
the
site
plan.
Let's.
J
K
B
K
B
K
Well,
it
doesn't
proceed
all
the
way
to
Biltmore
it
stops.
Obviously,
this
parcel
I
can
look
real,
quick
I
believe
it
goes
back
down
the
hill
to
McDowell,
but
I
can
double
check
real
quick
while
we
let
Suzanne
start
off
with
their
first
slide,
which
would
be
exhibit
one
so
Jason
if
you
can
go
in
advance
to
the
next
slide.
K
M
M
M
So
the
first
photograph
is
like
I
was
mentioning
it's
showing
the
ends
of
the
existing
sidewalk
as
referenced
on
to
the
site
plan,
and
then
the
second
photograph
is
with
the
triangular
portion,
pointing
towards
where
the
view
is
taken.
So
that's
pointing
straight
across
from
Choctaw
to
give
you
an
idea
of
the
height
of
this
boulder
outcrop,
as
well
as
showing
you
where
the
building
sits
in
relation.
A
M
M
Unfortunately,
since
the
building
was
built
in
1987,
we
don't
have
any
as
built
information
for
the
foundation
of
the
structure.
We
can
make
some
educated
guesses
on
that
and,
if
you
were
to
deny
the
variance,
we
would
have
to
do
a
lot
more
investigation
in
terms
of
how
to
shore
up
and
protect
the
building's
foundation,
because,
right
now,
we
we
just
simply
don't
know
so,
which
is
part
of
our
variance
request.
Obviously,
so
the
third
picture
shows
before
spring
when
the
vegetation
wasn't
so
lush
in
that
area,
and
you
can
really
see
the
rocks.
M
A
M
M
When
you
build
a
retaining
wall,
you
then
have
to
look
at
how
tall
that
retaining
wall
is
going
to
get
and
if
you
have
to
comply
with
another
section
of
the
ordinance,
which
is
a
retaining
wall
section
of
the
ordinance,
which
is
seven
ten
five,
and
so
these
walls
would
vary
in
height
between
five
feet
and
fourteen
feet.
So
we
would
have
to
install
plant
material
at
the
base
of
these
retaining
walls,
so
this
is
not
actually
complying
with
the
ordinance.
This
is
a
like
a
sketch
to
kind
of
get
you
there.
M
So
what
I've
said
in
statement
number
one
for
the
statement
of
covariance
is
that
if
we
were
asking
for
marriage
for
the
sidewalk-
and
we
were
not
to
get
it
most
likely,
we
would
be
coming
back
to
ask
for
variance
for
the
retaining
wall
standards.
If
that
still,
in
fact
goes
to
the
Board
of
Adjustment
I'm,
not
sure
if
it
goes
to
the
urban
forestry
commission
or
not.
M
M
We
get
to
construct
ability
of
actually
being
able
to
get
in
some
of
these
painting
walls
and
getting
rid
of
the
rock
outcrop,
and
that's
why
I
have
Katelyn
Warner
here
with
us
today.
She
has
written
a
report
that
I
don't
know
if
they've
got
sent
to
you,
but
we
can
certainly
have
it
on
hand
and
she
can
speak
to
it
as
well
so
building
foundations
on
top
of
slopes.
This
steep
are
pretty
tricky
and
getting
Runk
out
in
this
scenario
is
also
pretty
tricky.
M
Obviously,
with
its
location
in
the
urban
setting
and
being
close
to
the
hospital,
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
blast.
So
we
would
be
looking
at
doing
an
expansion,
concrete
method
where
you
drill
in
small
holes
and
you
put
in
concrete
and
then
when
the
concrete
expands
it
shifts
and
cracks
through
up
or
using
Rock
hammers
to
do
it.
And
if
we
did
either
of
those
two
methods.
C
Comments
suzanne
before
we
invite
Katelyn
to
speak.
I
just
wanted
to
say
the
report
or
the
letter
with
the
geotech
engineer
with
that.
Caitlin
was
part
of
that
report.
That
was
shared
with
the
board
earlier
via
email
and
we
did
go
ahead
and
load
it
and
label
it,
as
exhibit
704
in
case
anybody
from
the
public
is
watching
Jason.
If
you
could
maybe
go
and
look
for
that,
exhibit
seven
in
the
project
file
Murray.
Did
we
load
that
into
the
project
file?
C
And
while
we're
waiting
for
that
Suzanne,
if
just
just
to
kind
of
help
the
board
members,
you
know
make
sense
of
the
site
plan,
there
is
existing
sidewalk.
Correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
I'm
gonna
try
to
summarize
some
of
what
you
and
Rick
you've
said,
but
there's
existing
sidewalk
that
runs
from
on
the
west
side.
That
was
kind
of
shown
in
some
of
Ricky's
photos
and
your
photos,
I
believe
and
that
basically
dead
ends
into
this
rock
cliff
and
where
that
green
strip
is
that
is
on
this
particular
plan.
C
That
shows
where
that
planting
strip
would
be,
and
sidewalk
would
be
in
front
of
that.
That
is
the
portion
of
the
sidewalk
that
you're
requesting
a
variance
for
correct,
that's
correct,
and
if
the
board
members
were
to
look
at
the
I
think
it's
sheet
l/100,
which
kind
of
shows
the
existing
conditions.
You
can
see
the
grades
of
that
rock
go
all
the
way
to
the
edge
of
pavement,
so
you
can
kind
of
see
the
the
topographic
representation
of
that
cliff
and
this
the
the
portion
of
the
variance
that's
being
requested
is
just
for
that
segment.
C
Where
you
see
that
that,
basically,
that
cliff
is
right
up
against
the
edge
of
the
road,
does
that
sound
right,
yeah,
that's
that's
exactly
correct
and
and
what
you're
saying
is,
if
you
had
to
build
it,
you
would
have
to
come
back
enough
to
not
only
accommodate
the
sidewalk,
but
potentially
some
planting
the
area,
and
that
would
result
in
a
very
significant
wall
and
I
think
the
wall
is
what
Caitlyn
is
going
to
speak
to.
Yes,
this
is
correct.
Okay,
the
constructability
that
one
is.
B
K
So
I
did
double
check
the
street
views
and
stuff,
and
then
this
sidewalk
on
the
south
that
we've
been
talking
about
that
dead
ends.
It
continues
westward
back
to
McDowell
and
connects
in
the
sidewalks
with
me
down,
so
so
yeah
there.
You
can
get
through
here
with
that,
but
you
have
to
cross
the
street
somewhere
that
that's
the
problem.
Yeah.
B
C
K
The
property
has
been
vacant
for
more
than
two
years
and
they're
also
doing
substantial
improvement
of
more
than
75%
so
either.
One
of
those
would
be
triggering
this,
but
definitely
the
building
value
work
would
trigger
a
sidewalk
so
they're
there
in
this
requirement,
definitely
with
the
75%
I
think
they're
proposing
a
very
large
investment
into
the
building
to
remodel
it
so
to
meet
their
needs,
so
that
in
itself
would
trigger
the
sidewalk
requirements
under
our
site.
Compliance
in
level,
one
and.
C
D
This
is
Kaitlin
Warner
with
coastal
engineering.
I,
don't
really
have
anything
to
add,
I
think
Suzanne
pretty
much
covered.
You
know
we
visited
the
site
and
granted
this
time
of
year,
it's
a
little
bit
tricky
to
get
a
really
good
picture
of.
What's
what
is
composed
in
a
slope,
but
we
saw
a
lot
of
rock
I
also
saw
some.
D
You
know
little
rock
walls
on
on
one
end
and
our
opinion
is
that
to
remove
this
type
of
rock,
it
takes
a
great
effort
and
there
is
a
really
high
risk
of
damaging
that
adjacent
building
the
adjacent
building
and
I'm.
Talking
about
the
the
beach,
the
proposed
detox
center,
not
the
one
across
the
street,
and
it
is
already
located
in
very
close
proximity
to
the
top
of
the
slope
and
it's
much
closer
than
what
we
generally
recommend.
D
You
know
for
new
construction
to
be
located
within
slope
crests,
and
so,
when
you
talk
about
doing
earth,
work
cuts
even
closer
to
that
building.
I
think
that
you
really
start
opening
up
a
can
of
worms
that
the
the
amount
of
effort
to
remove
the
rock
would
be
really
difficult
to
quantify
and
qualify
at
this
time.
And
if
you
guys
have
specific
questions,
we
did
recommend
that
if,
if
the
project
were
to
move
forward,
but
the
sidewalk
that
you
know
you
guys,
someone
had
a
question
about
the
foundations
of
that
building.