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B
C
Good
morning,
I'm
robin
raines,
and
I
would
like
to
welcome
you
to
the
june
17
2021
design,
review
committee
meeting.
This
is
a
nine
person
committee
whose
primary
function
is
to
perform
design
review
for
projects
located
in
one
of
the
city's
three
designated
design
review
areas
downtown
the
riverfront
and
the
new
hotel
overlaid
zoning
districts.
C
This
is
a
mandatory
review,
voluntary
compliance
process,
with
one
exception
for
hotels
seeking
to
skip
council
review
hotels.
Taking
advantage
of
this
incentive
must
receive
a
positive
recommendation
from
the
committee.
All
committee
members
and
staff
are
participating
virtually.
We
appreciate
your
patience
as
we
work
through
committee
meetings.
A
bit
differently.
C
We
are
streaming
live
on
our
virtual
engagement
hub,
which
is
accessible
through
the
virtual
engagement
hub
link
on
the
front
page
of
the
city
website,
and
also
linked
on
the
committee
page.
You
can
also
watch
the
meeting
on
the
city's
youtube
channel.
We
also
have
an
option
for
the
public
to
listen,
live
by
phone
by
calling.
C
C
I
will
now
go
through
and
introduce
all
the
committee
members
who
are
participating
virtually
please
make
sure
to
mute
your
microphone.
If
you
are
not
speaking
when
you
have
a
question
or
would
like
to
speak
unmute
your
microphone,
please
remember
to
mute
once
again
after
you're
done
speaking
committee
members,
as
I
call
your
name,
please
say
a
quick
hello,
chair,
jane
matthews,
she's
absent
today,
karen
craig
nolan.
E
C
He's
absent
today,
and
I
am
robin
reigns
to
help
our
audience-
follow
along
I'll
state
each
section
of
the
agenda
aloud
and
do
a
vocal
roll
call
for
each
vote.
If
there's
a
vote
to
be
taken.
Additionally,
I
ask
that
committee
members
raise
their
hands
to
speak
and
I
will
call
upon
them.
We
will
begin
with
our
administrative
items
and
any
unfinished
business.
D
C
Okay,
thank
you
and
then
let's
do
the
roll
call
for
that
then
kimberly
hunter,
hi,
jeremy,
goldstein.
B
B
B
C
And
robin
reigns,
I
okay.
Next,
we
have
on
new
business,
formal
design,
review
we're
going
to
be
reviewing
120
biltmore,
it's
a
level
two,
it's
a
new
building
on
the
corner
of
biltmore
avenue
and
south
market
street.
G
Above
good
afternoon,
committee
members,
my
name
is
shannon
tuck
I'll
kind
of
get
us
kicked
off
here
with
the
presentation
on
the
first
item.
As
chair
reigns,
has
indicated
it's
the
formal
review
for
the
project
located
at
120
biltmore
avenue.
I
will
go
ahead
and
share
my
screen,
so
I
can
kind
of
talk
through
some
of
the
materials.
G
So
the
project
is
located
at
120
biltmore
avenue,
which
is
the
corner
of
biltmore
avenue
and
south
market
on
the
sort
of
south
end
of
the
city's
cbd
or
central
business
district
for
context.
For
those
of
you
who
might
not
be
familiar
with
the
site,
just
caddy
corner
to
the
northwest
would
be
the
orange
peel.
This
is
also
on
the
same
side
of
the
street
as
a
french
broad
as
the
french
broad
food
co-op
is
another
example.
It
is
further
down
the
street.
G
It
might
also
be
important
for
folks
to
know
if
you're
not
familiar
with
the
site,
that
the
site
drops
somewhat
precipitously
in
elevation
from
biltmore
avenue
across
the
back
of
the
property
or
across
the
property
to
the
to
the
east.
If
you've
been
on
south
market
street-
and
you
know,
if
you
make
that
right
hand,
turn
off
of
biltmore
avenue,
you
drop
dramatically
in
elevation
as
you
go
down
south
market.
The
same
is
true
for
this
property.
G
So
while
the
project
is
classified
as
a
nine-story
building,
only
six
of
those
stories
are
visible
from
either
biltmore
avenue
or
south
market.
From
the
back
of
the
property,
you
will
see
all
nine
stories,
but
three
of
those
are
structured
parking
that
are
tucked
under
the
building,
so
this
project
also
was
on
the
committee's
agenda
last
month
for
formal
review,
but
we
we
ended
up
not
having
enough
time.
We
lost
some
commissioners
and
weren't
able
to
complete
the
formal
review.
G
However,
a
number
of
the
committee
members
stayed
on
to
to
kind
of
offer
an
informal
review.
So
that's
another
function
of
this
body
is
to
offer
informal
design
review,
so
the
applicant
did
revise
some
of
their
materials.
Those
are
included
in
your
meeting
packet.
You
have,
you
may
have
noticed,
there's
two
sets
of
renderings
one,
that's
just
labeled
rendering,
which
was
last
month's
renderings
and
then
a
revised
set
of
renderings
that
were
included
after
that
informal
review
so
going
to
those
newest
renderings.
G
This
is
the
the
elevation
of
on
south
market
street
looking
at
the
north
face
of
the
building,
so
you
can
see
the
primary
entrance
into
the
residences
here
at
the
ground
level
and
then
the
non-residential
space
sort
of
continues
down
south
market
and
then
actually
wraps
the
corner,
as
you
turn
well,
there's
another
rendering
of
the
south
market
side
and
then
turns
the
corner.
Well,
that's,
yes!
Well,
that's!
Actually,
the
sorry
I'm
trying
to
get
to
the
well
here.
G
This
is
a
good
elevation
to
look
so
the
primary
entrance
into
the
residences,
the
restaurant
corner
here
at
the
right
at
the
corner
of
south
market
and
biltmore
avenue,
and
then
you
can
see
the
project.
The
non-residential
space
continues
down
biltmore
avenue
to
the
retail
space
that
is
tucked
here
at
the
end.
So
as
far
as
design
and
operational
standards
and
compliance
with
the
udo,
this
project
appears
to
meet
all
of
the
requirements,
including
those
for
fenestration
step,
backs
setbacks,
design,
organization
or
building
organization.
G
G
G
G
And
then
I
think
the
other
entrance
concern
had
to
do
with
the
entrance
into
the
retail
space
that
that
also
just
kind
of
disappeared
in
the
recessed
area.
Underneath
the
second
level-
and
you
can
see
here,
the
applicant
has
provided
a
sort
of
a
more
close-up
rendering
of
that
space
to
kind
of
demonstrate
what
the
entrance
into
the
space
would
look
like.
G
Again
here
we
are
at
that
corner
view,
which
is
the
prominent
view
on
into
the
property
and
then
the
rear
view.
So
here
you
see
the
the
three
stories
that
are
tucked
underneath
for
the
structured
parking,
it's
also
visible
from
the
site
plan,
but
there
are
two
entrances
into
the
parking
level,
one
that
comes
off
of
south
market
into
that
upper
level
and
that
one
comes
off
of
the
the
alley
that
runs
along
the
back
of
the
property
and
we
just
call
it
south
market
extension.
G
A
sort
of
a
bird's
eye
or
exonic
axonometric
view
into
the
property
sort
of
seeing
that
some
of
that
private
residential
space
with
a
green
roof
or
some
courtyard
space
for
the
residents
there's
also
some
some
upper
story.
Rooftop
amenity
areas
also
provided
and,
of
course,
the
balconies
that
we've
discussed
before.
G
I'm
going
to
kind
of
gloss
through
these
architectural
plans.
The
applicant
may
want
to
discuss
these
more
but
and
then,
of
course,
we
we
did
discuss
some
last
month
as
well,
the
just
sort
of
the
basic
black
and
white
line
drawings,
the
the
sort
of
the
flat
elevations
from
all
different
from
all
sides
of
the
project.
Of
course,
that's
the
rear
of
the
project
again
having
those
that
additional
height
coming
from
those
three
levels
of
structured
parking.
G
This
is
the
south
elevation
that
would
be
adjacent
to
the
property
to
the
south,
not
necessarily
visible
from
the
public
way.
The
elevation
from
biltmore
avenue,
which
we
would
consider
this.
The
primary
elevation
biltmore
avenue-
is
a
key
pedestrian
street,
whereas
south
market
is
not,
although
it
is
city
maintained,
it
is
not
a
key
pedestrian
street.
G
And
then
the
applicant
has
provided
these
photoshop
renderings
that
put
the
building
into
the
street,
so
you
can
really
get
a
sense
of
the
context
of
the
building,
one
of
the
only
design
standards
that
staff
kind
of
flagged
for
consideration
had
to
do
with
the
the
massing
and
scale
context
with
what
is
surrounding.
So
you
can
kind
of
see
here
some
of
the
the
transition
from
these
two
two
and
a
half
story,
structures
to
the.
G
What
would
be
a
six
story
structure,
excuse
me
and
just
kind
of
flagged
for
the
committees
reference
to
see
if
that
is
something
that
they
feel
is
is
worth
discussing.
G
And
then,
from
the
south
side,
looking
up
biltmore
avenue
to
the
north,
another
perspective
view
so
the
materials
just
to
remind
the
members
of
the
committee.
It's
a
combination
of
fiber
cement
panels
with
efis.
G
The
of
course
there's
quite
a
bit
of
glazing
at
the
ground
level,
with
anodized
aluminum
window
frames
and
then
efus
on
sort
of
those
secondary
faces,
the
the
less
visible
adjacent
to
other
properties
or
that
rear
only
visible,
really
from
the
alley
is
the
aephis
and
then
the
perforated
metal
for
the
balconies
at
the
base
is
the
polished,
concrete
block
that
once
kind
of
is
polished
and
finished.
G
G
H
G
G
I
I
just
I
think
my
question
is
more
about
materials
because
of
the
side
of
the
street.
It's
on
before
you
get
to
exactly
where
the
hotels
are.
It's
just
it's
much
more
historic,
leading
up
to
that
side
of
biltmore,
and
I
recognize
that
it's
built
more
and
market
are.
Were
there
any
like
more
modern,
like
you
know,
glass,
much
more
glass
and
much
more
white,
so
that
there's
it
feels
a
little
bit
more
like
a
transition
leading
into
some
of
the
newer
pieces
moving
up
biltmore.
Did
you
discuss
that?
G
I
don't
believe
well
materials,
I
think
weren't
really
discussed
in
any
great
detail.
I
think
there
was
some
concern
expressed
about
the
use
of
ephis
just
generally,
which
seems
to
come
up
with
any
project
that
includes
ephesus.
G
I
J
I
had
a
question
shannon.
This
is
steven
lee
johnson.
Has
this
already
gone
before
trc?
It
has
yes,
okay,
thank
you
and
I
just
had
a
couple
of
other
comments,
but
that
may
be
better
stated
after
we
hear
from
the
developer
and
architect.
Thank.
C
If
not,
is
the
project
team.
F
E
K
Good
afternoon,
everyone,
this
is
peter
alvarez
with
mha
works,
and
I
have
eric
howell
with
me
here.
Who
is
the
project
manager
for
the
120
biltmore
project
and
the
this
project
has
gone
through
multiple
reviews
with
this
committee
under
the
prior
organization,
and
it
seems
now,
after
the
last
meeting
that
we
had
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,
that
we've
we've
worked
through
a
lot
of
the
concerns
that
have
been
brought
up
and
I
think
we've
hopefully
satisfied
those
concerns.
K
But
I
did
would
like
to
mention
one
question
that
did
come
up
about
the
scale
going
down
the
street
and
shannon.
If
you
would
go
to
the
west
elevation,
the
drawing
the
it's
the
flat
black
and
white
line,
drawing
it.
K
Yes,
that
right
there
and
then,
if
you
look
again
at
how
we
organize
the
building,
it's
it's
almost
a
squaring
plan
and
we
use
the
a
nine
square
grid
as
the
organizer
of
the
essentially
the
the
main
party
of
the
building
and
use
that
strategy
for
the
step
backs
that
are
required
on
both
biltmore
avenue
and
stock
market,
because
they're
key
streets
so
we're
stepping
back
two-thirds
of
the
facades
on
those
respective
streets
in
the
required
10
feet
and
we've
also
lowered
the
southwest
corner,
which
in
this
view,
right
here
is
the
the
left
side
of
the
the
drawing.
K
So
what
we
have
is
three
or
four
points
where
the
building
is
stepping
down
from
its
very
highest
point
down
as
the
building
moves
visually
to
the
south
towards
the
historic
buildings
that
are
a
j
or
adjoining
now,
keep
in
mind
that
there's
a
relatively
large
parking
lot
between
our
project
and
the
the
three
or
four
small
stone
buildings,
and
that
parking
lot
is
used
for
parking
for
those
buildings.
So
it's
not
likely
that
there
will
ever
be
a
transition
building
within
that
parking
lot
space.
But
we
recognized
early
on
that.
K
I
Is
it
okay?
If
I
ask
a
couple
questions
sure
thanks,
so
I
wanted
to
ask
you
more
about
materials
and
for
me
just
visually,
I
I
think
the
project
is
is
really
respectful
and
when
you
look
at
it
in
conjunction
with
the
historic
buildings
that
are
there
and
also
the
new
buildings
that
come
in,
it's
at
a
key
transition
point
in
terms
of
where
it
sits,
and
so
has
there
been
consideration
for
actually
even
more
lighter,
more
modern,
more
glass
materials
so
that
that
transition
is
softer.
I
K
We
have
obviously
looked
at
a
lot
of
different
material
options
kim
and
I
think
we
we
feel
like.
We
have
something
that's
fairly
modern,
we're
trying
to
not
make
it
all
glass
or
or
all
light,
beige
or
gray,
and
try
to
introduce
colors
that
are
more
sand
or
stone
color
to
try
to
blend
with
everything
that's
in
the
foreground,
but
at
the
same
time
have
the
the
scale
and
the
glass
sizes
that
are
more
contemporary.
K
So
we're
trying
to.
It
is
a
the
fact
that
it's
on
a
corner
that
it
requires
multiple
step
backs
and
that
it
requires
activated
street
level
activity
on
two
sides
of
the
building
and
needs
to
step
down.
I
think
we're
we're.
We've
juggled
a
lot
of
things
here
to
to
try
to
achieve
all
of
them,
or
some
of
them
and.
E
E
To
remember
the
the
purpose
of
the
building
as
well-
and
it
is
you
know,
a
multi-family
building,
so
we're
thinking
about
those
spaces
inside
how
much
glass
we
can
actually
use
in
order
to
to
design
that
space
effectively
and-
and
we
are
definitely
over
the
fenestration
requirements,
of
course,
for
those
upper
levels.
I
I
F
Yeah
sure
we
we
certainly
recognize
that
we're
changing
impervious
here
we've
got
stormwater
considerations,
thoughts.
B
F
Oh
I'm!
So
sorry
can
you
hear
me:
okay,
now,
jeremy
yeah,
so
we
certainly
recognize
that
we
storm
water
requirements
here,
we're
increasingly
impervious
we're
expecting.
This
would
be
a
stormtext
system
integrated
into
some
of
those
drive
connections
and
building
areas,
and
then
there
will
be
and
has
been,
some
coordination
with.
L
F
H
Hey
warren,
just
for
the
non-technical
folks
on
the
commission.
Can
you
describe
how
what
a
storm
tech
system
is
real,
quick.
F
Yeah,
thank
you
brian.
Thank
you
for
bringing
that
up.
Yeah.
It
is
a
vault
system
that
has
the
ability
to
not
only
capture
the
storm
water,
contain
it,
but
also
to
draw
it
down
over
a
over
a
longer
period
of
time.
It
has
a
gravel
base
to
it
with
a
fabric,
so
think
of
it
as
a
really
good
filter.
The
water
comes
in.
L
F
G
And
and
kim
just
so,
you
know
warren
referred
to
working
with
nancy
and
rick
they're.
Our
stormwater
plans,
reviewers
in
our
in
the
development
services
department
that
look
at
all
of
the
private
system,
connections
to
the
public,
the
city's
public
infrastructure,
stormwater
infrastructure.
D
Jeremy
has
a
question
yeah.
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
the
question
my
that
kim
asked,
but
my
larger
question
to
really
sasha
or
whomever.
Maybe
you
robin
but
is
stormwater
a
design
issue
that
we
should
be
discussing,
or
is
that
a
trc
issue
that
it's
not
something
you
see
they
have
to
meet
the
technical
requirements?
Should
we
even
be
discussing
it
and
really?
I
do
appreciate
the
question
and
I
care
about
the
stormwater,
but
I'm
more
thinking
of
a
process
of
when
we
have
a
full
agenda
as
we
want
to
get
through
things.
H
I'll
jump
in
real
quick,
it
can
be
especially
if
they
either
haven't
thought
about
it
or
they've
got
some
some.
It's
going
to
impact
the
design
in
some
way,
not
just
the
visual
design,
but
how
it
interfaces
with
the
the
the
other
systems
in
the
community.
So
it
can
be,
but
I
think
that
they
answered
it.
J
I
have
a
thought
to
one
thing
that
does
relate
to
that:
jeremy
and
brian
in
terms
of
storm
water
is
like
green
roofs
and
so
warren.
It
looks
like
on
the
rendering
there's
a
pretty
significant
green
roof
shown
on
this.
Is
that,
like
an
intensive
system
or
an
extensive
system,.
F
Statement
I'll,
let
I'll
let
peter
go
into
a
little
more
detail
on
that
roof
system,
but
you're
you're
right.
We
do
have
some
some
space
up
there.
There
there's
a
great
visual.
K
K
Julio
live,
amelia
emilio
and
he
or
they
are.
We
have
them
as
a
consultant
they're
going
to
be
looking
at
once
we
get
into
the
construction,
drawings
and
start
thinking
about
how
the
roof
loads
will
work.
They're
going
to
advise
us
on
what
the
type
of
system
we
would.
H
K
K
It'd
be
some
type
of
a
metal
standard
parapet.
Cap.
H
The
the
little
roof
that's
holding
up
the
your
solar
panels,
still
just
doesn't,
it
still
just
doesn't
match
the
rest
of
the
architecture.
It
just
kind
of
looks
tacked
on
mine
are
great
still
like
the
building.
I
think
it's
come
a
long
way
from
when
we
first
started
looking
at.
H
K
K
Well,
we
could
put
the
panels,
we
could
relocate
them
to
be
on
the
roof
of
the
element
adjoining
them
and
have
the
other
space
not
have
that
structure.
I
think
what
the
owner
would
like
to
have
is
to
have
some
type
of
covered
balcony
at
that
deck
and
that
singular
column.
It
is
sort
of
an
odd
element
there.
There
needs
to
be
something
different,
but
I
I
don't
know
I.
K
Yeah,
well,
that
could
be,
we
could
add
shane
you
go
to
that
west
elevation
again
the
blind
drawing
and
we
can
maybe
work
through
this.
A
H
I
think
I
think
so
sasha
I
think
I'm
reacting
to
when
I,
when
I
look
at
it
it's
you
know
so
he's
got
such
a
really
fun
organization,
where
he's
got
a
clear,
a
clear
base
with
a
clear
masonry
and
glass
base,
and
then
he's
got
this
wonderful,
dividing
line.
Saying
okay
from
here
on
up.
H
You
know,
I'm
a
different
thing
and
I
wouldn't
bring
that
either
of
those
languages
in
and
then
he's
got
the
the
ins
and
the
outs
and
the
recesses
accented
by
the
balconies
with
that
language
and
he's
got
a
really
clear,
horizontal
line
kind
of
illustrating
the
cap
at
the
top,
but
then
that
that
one
little
piece
just
kind
of
looks
like
you
see
it,
you
know
it's
just
it's
either
it's
not
thick
enough
and
it's
not
it.
H
It
doesn't
look
like
it
was
done
by
with
the
same
care
as
the
rest
of
the
design.
So
you
know
basically
peter
just
either
do
a
really
bad
job
on
the
rest
of
the
building
or
make
this.
K
Well,
what
if
we,
let's
just
maybe
moving
the
columns,
so
there
are
aligns
with
a
solid
portion
below
and
thicken
the
edge
of
the
roof,
so
that
matches
the
the
roof
on
the
adjoining
element.
That
is
just
behind
it
and
then
it'll
become
more
integrated.
E
E
H
Concern
and
I
put
a
link
in
the
chat-
I
think
it's
the
anichiha,
no
novenary
or
something
and
it's
a
pretty
modern,
looking
material
from
the
ones
I've
seen
in
in
the
wild.
C
I
I
can
do
that.
I.
C
I
Asking
how
is
storm
water
impacted
by
extended
balconies
on
a
steep
grade,
because
it
doesn't
have
the
benefit
of
the
I'm
sorry.
My
words
are
very
slow
today.
I
can't
think
of
the
word,
but
it
doesn't
have
the
benefit
of
being.
G
I
Yeah
drainage,
and
with
that
grade,
I
just
the
storm
water
piece
is,
is
is
critical.
Just
because
there's
you
know,
I
want
to
just
figure
out
how
it's
impacting
the
design
and,
if
there's
anything,
to
talk
about
related
to
the
design
around
that
and
with
the
extended
balconies.
Although
functional
and
beautiful
there's
a
potential
additional
drainage
matter,
so
I
just
want
to
see
how
that
was
captured
in
the
design.
F
F
K
H
D
H
That
emotion,
I
thought
it
was
but.
C
Okay,
then
I'll
do
a
roll
call
vote.
Kimberly
hunter,
aye,
stephen
lee
johnson.
B
B
B
G
G
Yeah,
typically,
you
take
it
before
you
vote
and
but
we
can
always
reopen
the
public
hearing
and
take
any
public
comment.
If
the
commission
would
like
to
do
that,
we
may
want
to
check
with.
G
We
will
take
public
comment
as
part
of
this
process.
B
Chair
vice
chair,
there
is
no
one
in
the
queue
wishing
to
speak
on
this
item.
G
Okay,
probably
not
necessary
to
open
for
public
comment,
but
the
next
this
next
project
there
could
be
people
so
we
may
want
to.
I
think
that
was
a
very
helpful
reminder
that.
C
Yes,
I
am
not
I'm
new
at
this,
so
thank
you,
jeremy.
So
the
conditional
zoning
at
22
wood
fun
streets
is
a
new
building
edition
on
woodfin
street.
It's
new
construction
of
a
7
to
11
story,
117,
foot
tall
building,
edition
totaling,
approximately
477
500
square
feet
with
8
000
square
feet
of
ground
level,
retail
structured
surface
and
on-street
parking
with
extended
stay
hotel
and
residential
units
above
also
included
our
landscape
and
sidewalk
improvements.
L
D
D
I
wanted
to
first
disclose
that
I
don't.
I
have
zero
financial
interest
in
this
project.
I
don't
believe,
there's
any
conflict.
I
spoke
with
the
assistant
city
attorney.
She
agreed
that
I
could
be
fair
and
impartial,
but
I
did
want
to
disclose
that
I'm
an
adjacent
property
owner
and
if
you
all
felt
that
that
somehow
disqualified
me,
you
need
to
know
that
before
we
heard
this.
C
H
If
this
was
judicial,
we
would
normally
have
to
vote
whether
or
not
to
allow
him
to
continue
this
isn't
quasi-judicial,
so
we
don't
have
to,
but
it's
probably
not
a
bad
idea
to
just
have
a
quick,
a
quick
roll
call
vote.
D
A
G
With
brian
that
it
would
just
be
a
good
idea
just
to
kind
of
feel
the
temperature
of
the
committee
members
and
if
anybody
had
any
concern
you
could
discuss
it
and
vote.
C
Okay,
I'll
call
names
and
the
commissioners
can
tell
me
whether
they're,
okay
with
jeremy,
weighing
in
on
this
or
whether
he
should
recuse
himself
I'll
start
with
kimberly
hunter.
C
G
All
right,
would
you
like
me
to
go
ahead
and
introduce
this
case?
Yes,
please,
okay.
So,
as
chair
reigns
has
indicated,
this
is
the
conditional
zoning
project
for
the
property
located
at
22
woodfin
street.
The
the
property
today
supports
the
four
points:
sheraton
hotel
and
its
ancillary
facilities,
and
the
proposal
is
to
add
a
a
very
significant
building
addition
that
will
wrap
around
the
existing
hotel
and
incorporate
into
the
existing
hotel.
So
it
is
definitely
an
addition,
even
though
it
is
a
very
substantial
addition.
G
G
G
This
is
a
very
large
combined
plan
set,
so
I
apologize
I'm
going
to
kind
of
scroll
through
some
of
the
the
drawings.
This
project's
been
to
informal
review
on
several
occasions.
So
I
know
many
of
you
have
kind
of
reviewed
a
lot
of
these
drawings
already,
but
I
think,
rather
than
go
through
the
flat
black
and
white
line
drawings,
I
think
it
might
be
more
helpful
to
concentrate
on
the
rendering,
so
I'm
going
to
go,
go
to
those
and
try
to
kind
of
walk
you
through
that
as
well.
G
G
I240
would
be
back
here,
and
this
is
the
oh
wait.
Did
I
say
that
right?
I'm
sorry
give
me
one
second,
no,
that
is
the
that
is
the
north
elevation
I
apologize,
so
that
is
from
the
interstate.
Looking
back
at
the
project.
G
Here's
the
west
elevation
here
from
the
ramp
or
from
the
parking
lot
looking
at
the
project
woodfin
street
is
over
here
on
the
right
hand,
side,
and
then
here
this
is
what
we
would
refer
to
as
the
primary
facade
woodfin
street
is
the
is
a
key
pedestrian
street,
so
this
would
be
sort
of
the
principal
facade
and
where
a
lot
of
those
streetscape
improvements
are
occurring.
I
pointed
out,
on
the
site
plan
the
little
road
diet
with
the
on-street
parking
here
it
is
represented
in
the
rendering
you
can
see.
G
We
have
nice
sidewalks,
a
planting
strip
for
the
trees
and
a
outdoor,
dining
or
gathering
area
that
would
be
associated
with
the
non-residential
space
at
the
ground
level
and
then
the
east
or
the
central
avenue
side.
So
it's
turning
the
corner
around
biltmore
avenue
on
to
central
avenue.
This
is
a
little
bit
more
challenging
side
because
it
does
require
dealing
with
the
face
of
the
existing
hotel,
which
is
screened
here
with
some
additional
units.
G
That
was
one
of
the
comments
that
came
out
of
informal
review,
and
the
review
with
the
downtown
commission
was
that
previously
in
previous
renderings,
that
was
a
blank
wall
and
that's
the
existing
wall
of
the
hotel.
So
the
applicant
has
responded
by
adding
another
little
bit
of
addition
around
the
back
end
of
that
building
in
order
to
provide
some
more
traditional
fenestration
for
that
end
of
the
building
and
those
are
just
some
additional
hotel
rooms.
G
So
this
is
a
mixed-use
project.
We
have
the
non-residential
space
at
the
ground
level,
which
includes
the
small
grocer.
The
small
earth
fare
located
at
the
would
be
the
west
side
of
the
or
woodfin
street,
and
then
you
have
this
other
flex
space.
It's
retail
restaurant,
whatever
you
know,
ends
up
being
supportable
in
this
area,
but
also
included
in
the
project
where
the
upper
stories
are
predominantly
you
know,
residential
either
extended
stay
hotel
units
or
apartment
or
condominium
units.
G
So
it
is
a
mixed
project,
also
included
in
the
project
to
some
structured
parking
with
an
entrance
from
woodfin
street.
There
is
also
a
driveway
cut
on
both
on
the
west
end
of
woodfin
street
of
the
project.
There
is
a
driveway
cut
there
existing
today
for
that
surface
parking
and
another
entrance
to
the
surface
parking
on
central
avenue.
Approximately
in
the
same
location
exists
today,
so
the
only
new
driveway
cut
is
here
right
kind
of
right
in
the
middle
on
woodfin
street
and
that
is
to
enter
the
parking
garage.
G
I'm
going
to
pause
a
little
bit
more
on
the
east
elevation,
so
this
project
has
gone
through
technical
review
and
we
identified
four
areas
where
the
project
does
not
comply
with
the
udo,
udo's
design
and
operational
standards.
However,
I
wouldn't
say
that
they're
all
created
equally,
I
would
say
two
of
the
four
are
relatively
minor.
For
example,
there
is,
the
project
exceeds
the
step
back
or
excuse
me,
setback
requirements
on
the
central
avenue
side,
but
again
it's
because
of
the
accommodating
the
existing
hotel.
Largely
that's
what
drives
that
and
it's
not
a
significant
deviation.
G
G
What
is
probably
more
significant
is
that
the
udo
requires
that
you
not
have
blank
faces
at
the
ground
level.
You
know
we
try
to
activate
the
space,
make
it
interesting
and
accessible
for
pedestrians
and
when
the
elevation
as
the
sidewalk
drops
and
when
the
elevation
that
foundation
elevation
exceeds
six
feet,
you're
supposed
to
reset
the
ground
floor
at
that
point
and
then
start
adding
fenestration
and
and
occupiable
space,
and
that
doesn't
happen.
So
we
start
here
at
about
four
feet.
G
G
Southern
end
and
then
it
drops
as
it
drops
in
elevation.
You
end
up
with
a
height.
I
think
it's,
I
think
it's
somewhere
in
the
neighborhood
of
12
feet
here
and
then
again
you
have
this
little
courtyard
terrace
space
and
then
again,
that's
I
forget
how
tall
that
is
more
than
four
feet
and
then
again
it
drops
to
another.
You
know
12
or
plus
feet
here,
so
normally
that
would
not
be
permitted,
however,
because
this
is
a
conditional
zoning.
G
G
Just
something
was
one
suggestion
that
was
offered
the
other
compliance
piece
that
the
project
does
not
comply
with
is
exceeding
the
maximum
horizontal
width
of
a
of
a
building
that
is
over
75
feet
in
height.
So
this
is
a
depending
on
where
you
measure
it
a
7
to
11
building
addition.
So
we
do
have
some
portions
of
this
building
that
are
over
75
feet
tall
and
then
we
have
faces
actually
all
four
faces
exceed
the
maximum
145
feet,
two
of
the
faces
don't
exceed
it
by
a
dramatic
amount.
G
You
know
it
might
be
160
feet
or
170
feet,
but
we
do
have
two
faces
that
exceed
it.
You
know
with
over
with
lengths
over
300
feet
so
that
I
think
you
know
I
believe
that
standard
exists
in
order
to
try
to
kind
of
control.
G
A
couple
other
things
to
point
out
about
the
project
you
can
see
from
the
the
step
backs
that
are
provided
the
relief
that
is
provided
the
change
in
materials
that
the
applicant
is
breaking
up,
that
mass
to
some
degree
by
by
doing
all
of
these
different
things,
by
using
different
materials
by
having
different
planes
and
and
by
stepping
sections
of
the
building
apart.
So
the
effort
is
to
try
to
make
it,
even
though
it
is
one
building
is
to
make
it
look
and
feel
and
read
like
multiple
buildings.
G
So
I
think
it
is
a
matter
for
this
committee's
consideration,
whether
or
not
they
feel
that
this
design
successfully
does
that
in
a
way
that
can
in
a
way
that
addresses
perhaps
some
of
that
some
of
those
design
and
operational
standards
that
are
not
being
satisfied.
G
The
materials
proposed
include
the
the
same
kind
of
you
know,
glazing
and
anodized
aluminum
frames
that
we
saw
with
the
last
application,
and
then
this
is
a
combination
of
light
and
red
brick
that
is
being
proposed.
You
know
to
kind
of
help
you
can
see
from
this
perspective
that
you
know
there
they
do
kind
of
break
up
the
segments
of
the
buildings
kind
of
make
it
look
and
read
like
different,
different
building
pieces
and
then
there's
some
this
of
this
light
bronze
anodized
metal
panels
at
the
penthouse
and
restaurant
levels.
G
H
G
G
That
is
the
standard
and
it
is
let's
see
it's
most
notable
on
the
east
and
west
facades,
so
that
is
the
facade
facing
the
I-240
ramp
and
then
the
facade
facing
central
avenue
and
that
is,
could
be
due
in
part
because
of
how
we
measure
height,
you
know,
so
the
building
is
going
to
look
and
feel
or
actually
no,
that
wouldn't
necessarily
be
the
case.
I
apologize.
So
let
me
go
to
those
elevations,
I
think,
rather
than
the
renderings.
I
think
that
might
be
a
little
bit
easier
to
see
so.
G
So
we
were
saying
it
was
on
the
east
and
west
facade,
so
you
can
see
here.
170
excuse
me.
75
feet
occurs
approximately
at
this
80
level,
where
my
cursor
is
so
it's
the
mass
of
the
building,
that's
above
that
80
level.
So
if
you
see
here,
you
kind
of
measure,
if
you
measure
straight
across
that
is
in
the
neighborhood
of
300
feet
now
that
is
a
little
different
than
if
you
look
at
a
different
elevation,
for
instance,
the
south
elevation,
here's
the
80
level,
so
you
can
see
because
of
the
step
back.
G
G
C
I
I
do
okay,
so
the
thank
you
robin
we're
we're
looking
at
the
change
in
grade.
That's
above
six
feet.
I
don't.
I
didn't
see
a
lighting
plan.
How
does
the
lighting
get
changed
if
it's
retail
versus
what
it
currently
is?
Is
it
expanded?
Is
it
more
for
human
and
pedestrian
traffic?
Is
it
different?
I
G
Well,
given
that
this
is
the
downtown,
we
do
have
a
street
lighting
that
occurs
at
a
higher
intensity
than
you
might
see
like
in
a
residential
neighborhood.
So
you
do
have
street
lighting
existing
street
lighting
on
central
avenue,
which
is
this.
This
is
the
facade
that
you're
referring
to.
G
As
on
woodfin,
so
you
would
have
street
lighting
beyond
that.
You
would
likely
and
I'd
invite
the
applicant
to
to
speak
to
that
further,
but
you
would
likely
just
get
the
ambient
lighting
that
comes
out
of
the
the
the
ground
level
retail
space
here
and
and
perhaps
a
tiny
bit
that
may
come
out
of
any
of
these
units
and
then
oftentimes
projects
like
this
will
include
some
wall.
What
we
call
wall
packs,
so
these
are
lights
that
are
attached
directly
to
a
wall
that
helps
shine
light
down
on
the
the
walking
surface.
G
H
I
I
think
I
do
have
a
question.
I'm
still
working
my
way
through
making
sure
I
understand
and
applying
this
maximum
horizontal
wall
a
dimension.
Shannon
the
applicant
would
probably
say
that
those
aren't
the
same
walls
because
he's
broken
them
in
plane.
Right
do
we
have
a
definition
in
the
udo
for
or
or
a
diagram.
I've
been
looking
at
the
cbd
in
in
the
ordinance
and
I
haven't
seen:
do
you
know
what
I'm
asking
am
I
making.
A
G
We
don't
have,
I
don't
believe
we
have
a
definition.
I
have
to
go
back
and
double
check,
but
that
doesn't
it
doesn't
register
in
in
my
brain
that
we
have
a
definition
for
horizontal
plane
or
wall
or
anything
like
that.
I'm
not
sure
you
know
the
applicant
that
may
be
part
of
the
applicant's
strategy
to
sort
of
break
up
the
you
know
the
maximum
horizontal
wall
length,
but
I'm
not
sure
if
that's
really
what
the
standard
is
getting
at.
G
I
I
think
the
standard
is
trying
to
ensure
that,
as
the
building
gets
tall
over
75
feet,
that
the
mass
is
not.
You
know
that
it
starts
to
kind
of
break
up
and-
and
one
way
to
maybe
do
that
with
a
single
addition-
is
to
actually
just
sort
of
interrupt
them
and
bring
them
back
down
to
ground
plane
and
then
have
a
gap.
You
know
so
you
have
a
space
between,
but
even
though
this
is
sort
of
stepped
back
at
different
planes.
G
L
H
Remember
for
the
river
arts
district,
where
it
said
you
know
it
was
a
maximum
200
feet
and
then
you
had
to
have
a
you
had
to
have
a
break
in
the
building
and
we
went
round
and
round
on
if
a
glass
wall
met
that
met,
that
requirement
or
not
and
kind
of
at
least
I
still
come
down
on
the
that
that
it's
meant
to
be
because
it
says
from
front
to
back
in
the
river
arts
in
the
river
design
guidelines.
H
Now
this
one,
it
just
says
flat
out
max
maximum
horizontal
wall
dimension
in
any
direction
limited
to
145
feet,
but
it
doesn't
tell
me
okay,
would
it?
What
do
you
mean
by
wall
and
what's
the
intent,
you
know
I
can
go
to
the
diagrams
where
it's
talking
about
street
wall,
limiting
the
size
of
a
tower
above
75
feet,
and
it
does
seem
to
not
really
care
whether
it's
stepped
or
different
materials.
A
Sasha,
I
guess
I,
the
one
thing
I
could
add
to
this
conversation
is
that
I,
when
we
were
reviewing
this
project
in
an
informal
way
earlier
this
year,
this
winter
I
sent
both
the
applicant
and
our
design
review
subcommittee
at
the
time,
which
was
only
robin
stevenly
and
brian.
Some
images
from
the
downtown
master
plan
appendices
and
I'm
happy
to
put
that
link
in
the
chat,
but
it
does
talk
about
some
of
these
standards
and
it
was
an
appendixes.
A
G
Here
we
go,
I
finally
found
it.
Let
me
pull
this
over,
so
these
are
standards
that
apply
to
buildings
taller
than
75
feet
for
additional
floors.
Extending
above
this
point
and
then
you've
got
floor,
plate
limited
maximum
dimension
defined
the
maximum
horizontal
wall
dimension
in
any
direction
is
limited
to
145
feet
for
additional
floors
above
75
feet,
and
I
can
go
to.
G
H
And
at
the
time
I
was
wanting
to
see
some
kind
of
narrative
or
an
explanation
from
the
applicant
on
on
how
they're
meeting
how
they
believe
they're
meeting
this
requirement,
and
I
also
like
to
note-
I
might
might
be
early
in
the
in
the
process,
but
you
know
we
did
receive.
We
did
receive
a
public
comment
on
this
project,
a
voicemail
in
an
email
and
the
the
main
issues
that
well
there's
there's
four
main
issues.
He
says
it's
out
of
scale
for
the
neighborhood.
H
The
height
is
out
of
scale.
He
has
an
issue
with
converting
the
lane
on
woodford
street
and,
and
he
talks
about
how
it's
the
project
is,
is
contributing
in
terms
of
community
amenities.
So
I
I
would
like
to
note
that
we
do
have
public
comment
regarding
the
scale
and
the
height
of
this,
which
which
goes
to
this
very
issue
and
how
the
applicant's
meeting-
and
I
know
we're
going
to
get
this
from
the
applicant.
Thank
you
for
for
providing
that
diagram.
That's
exactly
the
one
I
was
looking
for.
A
And
shannon,
if
you
scroll
down
one
more,
I
think
it's
even
more
illustrative
so
and
you
see
in
the
appendices,
it
says:
150
foot
maximum
length
for
floors
above
75,
and
that
was
the
consultant's
recommendation.
We
changed
it
to
145.
That
is
the
length
of
the
flat
iron
building.
So
if
you
think
of
the
flat
iron,
that's
145
feet.
K
Of
course,
the
building
is
longer
than
145
feet,
but
we've
broken
the
mass
of
the
building
up
into
smaller
segments
in
a
as
our
strategy
to
meet
the
145-foot
requirement.
We've
done
that
through
multiple
step-backs
material
changes
and
height
changes,
and
we
feel
that
meets
the
intent
of
the
guidelines
that
were
passed
back
in
2009-2010
and
again.
M
B
K
A
wall
and
the
discussion
was
around
the
wall
of
the
length
of
the
flat
iron
building
and
the
flat
iron
building
is
a
flat,
has
a
flat
wall.
So
it's
the
length
of
it
is
a
building
and
the
length
of
it
as
a
wall
are
the
same
length,
and
we
all
agree
on
that.
But
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
show
this
as
multiple
buildings,
with
the
scale
broken
up
in
such
a
way.
K
Using
changes
in
massing
changes
and
step
backs
changes
of
materials
to
meet
that
that
guideline,
so
that
that's
that's
been
our
strategy
for
the
last.
You
know,
since.
C
G
Peter
was
there
anything
else
about
the
presentation
or
any
of
the
details
that
I
covered
that
you'd
like
to
elaborate
further
on.
K
No
available
for
any
other
questions
about
the
project.
D
G
D
L
G
There
we
go
so
again:
peter
has
offered
these
sort
of
photoshopped
images
that
takes
the
project
and
puts
them
in
the
context
of
the
street.
So
here
this
is
on
woodfin
street,
looking
east
towards
the
60
north
market
and
other
projects,
and
then
here
this
is
on
the
low
end
of
central
avenue.
G
Looking
south
and
an
exonometric
bird's
eye
view
of
the
project
from
the
interstate
kind
of
looking
into
the
project
site,
you
see
the
surface
parking
there
and
then
it
wraps
around
the
corner
of
the
building,
and
then
I
forgot
to
mention
that
this
this
project,
because
of
the
height,
is
requires
that
they
also
provide
these
contacts.
So
you
can
kind
of
these
viewshed
views
from
predetermined
locations
in
the
city,
so
the
first
is
merriman
and
graceland
street.
So
you
can
see
what
the
impact
on
the
the
skyline
might
be.
G
G
Oh,
and
I
thought
there
was
yeah
one
more
where
it's
just
you
get
a
tiny
little
glimpse,
which
is
from
the
stevenslee
recreation
center,
and
thank
you
for
reminding
me
to
go
through
those.
I
apologize.
D
A
G
H
You
I
mean
other
than
a
parking
garage
and
the
the
heras
about
caught
it
by
the
wrong
name.
Couple
other
buildings
like
that:
it's
it's
going
to
be
the
longest
building
in
downtown
right.
C
H
Mean
so
so,
if
this
was
if,
if
this
was
a
single
block
and
you
had
a
a
90-foot
building,
that
was
100
feet
long
on
one
parcel
and
somebody
built
a
building
right
beside
it,
zero
lot
line
on
the
next
parcel
and
it
was
90
feet
tall.
You
know
we
would
have
a
block
of
building.
That
was
more
than
more
than
that,
but
no
single
project
assuming
they're
not
the
same
developer
within
five
years.
So
you
know
we
we
have
blocks
of
of
urban
context
at
least
downtown.
H
G
Yeah
I
that
that
is
a
good
question.
That
would
be
a
good
thing
to
kind
of
investigate.
I
will
I'd
like
to
ask
sasha
something,
so
I'm
relatively
new
to
the
discussion
or
to
design
review
and
kind
of
learning
some
things
as
I
go.
G
You
know
air
and
light
you
know
between
buildings.
Sasha
is,
is
that
am
I
mixing
that
up
with
another
standard
or
is
that
correct?
And
I.
A
Did
step
away
for
a
few
minutes,
but
I
think
I
heard
your
question.
I
think
that's
true.
Yes,
I
mean,
I
think
it's
just
having
similar
to
our
discussion
of
159
riverside
like
having
massive
how
big
of
a
mass
do
you
want
and
then
75
feet
was
kind
of
the
the
point
of
thinking
well
up
to
75
feet.
We're
not
going
to
restrict
this,
but
over
75
feet.
We
are
like
it's.
G
Right-
and
so
you
know
when
you
have
one
building
next
to
another-
building,
oftentimes
there's
a
break
between
those
buildings
in
order
to
have
windows,
and
things
like
that,
so
you
might
still
get
a
little
bit
of
air
and
light
between
them.
Even
if
it's
not
as
much
as
you
would
in
a
case
like
this,
but
I
think
that
might
be
part
of
why
we
don't
see
whole
blocks
that
grossly
exceed
that
144,
except
for
145,
except
that,
like
maybe
right
at
the
ground
level
or
just
a
couple
levels
above.
A
G
So
I
mentioned
earlier
that
this
is
a
conditional
zoning,
so
I
think
you
know
how
we
interpret
and
apply.
G
This
standard
is
really
a
question
for
staff
and
for
the
zoning
administrator,
but
as
a
conditional
zoning,
I
think
one
of
the
things
we
look
at
is:
has
the
applicant's
design
mitigated
any
concerns
that
come
from
having
a
standard
like
that?
So
I
think
some
of
the
comments
you've
made
is
you
know
that,
while
the
overall
mass
is
maybe
exceeds
or
that
that
horizontal
length
exceeds
the
145
max,
the
applicant
has
mitigated
it
to
some
degree
by
by
having
these
different
wall
faces,
that
kind
of
step
back
from
one
another.
G
H
I'd
like
to
speak
to
that
a
little
bit,
because
I
don't
want
to
go
through
the
public
comment
and
address
mr
kevin.
Mr
kevin
frazier's
concerns,
so
so
his
first
one
was
that
he
said
it
was
out
of
scale
with
the
height,
and
I
do
not
find
that
to
be
so
on.
H
The
the
the
height
is
is
similar
to
the
o'henry
building
several
of
the
buildings
in
that
in
that
area,
I
find
it
in
keeping
in
scale
with
the
general
context
of
that
area,
so
that
the
height
of
the
building
doesn't
bother
me
now
that
length
of
that
of
that
height
of
that
of
that
big
block
bothers
me,
it's
a
it's
a
big
chunk
of
building
and
it
it
does
bother
me,
but
I
I
do
believe
it's
mitigated
one
by
the
massing.
H
It
looks
like
separate
buildings,
and
so
again,
if
this
was
different
owners
doing
this
project,
it
would
look
somewhat
similar
if
it
was
zero.
Lot
line
would
also
like
to
point
out
that
those
standards
are
generally
addressing
an
urban
context
where
we're
creating
canyons,
where
we've
got
pedestrians
next
to
it.
H
Where
they've
got
this
big
mass
of
the
building
pulled
in
as
far
on
the
site
as
they
can
and
it's
directly
adjacent
to
ncdot
right-of-way,
and
so
I
think
it's
mitigated
by
the
placement
on
the
site,
the
the
immediate
context
with
the
access
to
240
and-
and
I
I
can
see
where,
where
there
would
be
conditions
under
which
the
city
would
allow
this.
H
I
would
like
to
agree
with
mr
frazier's
recommendations
that
that
that
this
project
should
be
bringing
some
kind
of
civic
contributions,
specifically
in
the
in
the
realm
of
art
and
and
certain
things
like
that,
especially
on
that
on
central
avenue
along
that
base.
So
there's
some
issues
like
that.
I'd
like
to
to
note,
but
that
would
be
my
my
two
cents
on
the
on
the
exceeding
145
foot.
C
Rule
can
we
look
at
the
rendering
again
and
jeremy
has
raised
a
hand.
D
Yeah
I
mean
I
don't
disagree
with
what
brian
just
said.
I
I
kind
of
want
to
look
one
more
time
or
be
read
back
one
more
time:
the
verbiage
of
the
udo.
If
it
does
say
wall
because
there
is
a
difference
between
wall
and
building
and
if
it
does,
when
you
look
at
it,
doesn't
feel
like
it's
different.
I
mean
one
big
long
building,
but
I'd
like.
D
You
know
that's
the
way
you
walk
back
and
forth
without
having
to
deal
with
highways
one
of
the
ways,
and
it
would
just
be
ideal
if
there
could
be
some
type
of
activation,
at
least
in
that
north
built
portion
of
the
building
right
where
the
street
goes
down
enough,
or
maybe
you
could
do
something,
but
I
understand
why
it
may
be
difficult
to
do,
but
that's
just
my
two.
J
Thank
you.
I
had
basically
one
primary
concern
and
it
was
a
is
an
item
that
I
was
hoping
was
going
to
kind
of
get
defined
a
little
bit
further
and
enhanced
as
these
drawings
got
finalized.
But
if
you,
if
you
look
at
the
second
sheet
in
the
set,
I
think
this
may
be
the
easiest
one
to
look
at
sheet
c
202.
J
Now
this
is
such
an
interesting
project
because
it
basically
is
kind
of
like
at
the
edge
of
a
cliff
in
terms
of
how
the
urban
fabric
is
working
here.
But
we've
got
this
gigantic
new
building
going
in
and
you
know
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
people
will
be
living
here
and
working
and
and
playing
and
just
you
know,
shopping
or
whatever.
J
But
when
I
look
at
the
site
plan,
if
you
look
at
the
like
just
as
an
example,
the
bottom
left
corner.
So
that's
the
south
west
corner.
You
know,
that's
a
really
really
that's
going
to
be
a
very
heavily
used
pedestrian
corner.
J
A
lot
of
people
are
going
to
use
this
as
their
gateway
to
get
to
the
development
and
then
from
the
development
to
get
into
downtown
and
it
just
to
me
I
mean
it
just
feels
like
the
the
the
treatment
of
how
the
public
is
going
to
engage
in
this
building
is
almost
like.
You
know
if
this
was
just
you
know
a
parking
lot
and
not
something
that
hundreds
of
people
are
going
to
be
going
in
and
using
and
living
in
and
going
to
the
grocery
store
in
the
the
way
that
you
would
actually
access.
J
A
large
large
part
of
this
building
is
unclear
on
foot
from
that
corner.
There's
a
ramp,
that's
required
there,
the
handicap
accessible
ramp.
That
just
looks
very
engineered
to
me
personally
and
doesn't
have
any
character
or
design
and
like
that
spot
right
there
on
that
corner
is
the
perfect
space.
J
I
mean
it's
part
of
the
public
realm
right
there
and
that's
why
I'm
kind
of
bringing
this
up
we've
got
this
gigantic
building
that,
I
think,
is
really
quite
beautiful,
with
the
the
way
that
it's
being
broken
up,
but
it
just
it
just
flops
right
there
to
put
it
bluntly
at
that
corner
and
it
just
it
would
be
great
if
the
developer,
I
think,
that's
probably
developer
driven,
but
if,
if
the
developer
could
could
see
it
to
really
do
something
pretty
spectacular
right
there
that's
my
comment.
Thank.
H
You
steven
lee,
would
you
also
address
how
you
access
the
elevated
area
on
the
the
corner
of
woodfin
and
central?
J
Well,
yeah,
I'm
not
sure
how
you
would
access
it,
but
I
do
know
that
this
is.
This
is
something
that
the
design
team
came
up
with
and
one
of
their
gosh
half
a
dozen
reviews,
they've
done
with
us
now,
which
is
fantastic
and
I
think
it
it
did
come
a
long
way
with
the
stepped
planters.
But
I
think
it
could
go
a
lot
further.
J
Hopefully,
as
the
developer
moves
us
forward,
but
I
don't
see
how
you
would
access
that,
I
don't
think
it's
meant
to
be
access
and
it
may
be
kind
of
a
security
issue
for
residents
and
guests
there.
But
I
don't
know
it's
just
I
guess
the
big
thing
is
this:
is
such
a
big
building
and
the
to
me
that
the
streetscape
should
be
treated
like
a
big
building
and
like
there
should
be
granite
curb
on
this.
There
should
be
a
grand
pedestrian
entry
that
leads
you
from
the
intersection
to
the
building.
F
Stephen
lee,
this
is
warren,
just
a
reminder:
we
do
have
that
other
access
into
the
garage
parking
deck.
So
all
all
access
is
not
in
and
out
of
the
the
surface
lot
entrance.
I
don't
know
if
that
helps
with
any
of
that
dialogue.
Well,
certainly
certainly
yeah.
I.
J
Did
look
at
that?
You
know
the
the
main
light
it's
labeled
main
lobby
entrance
and
on
the
site
plan.
It's
like
you
know,
just
this
straight
concrete
sidewalk
going
in
there
that
there's
just
nothing
going
on.
G
And
stephen
that
you're
talking
about
the
corner
that
is
kind
of
out
of
the
view
here.
So
this
this
rendering
focuses
on
the.
J
So
I
think
what
I
was
just
talking
about.
There
seem
to
be
two
primary
resident
or
guest
entry
points.
One
is
on
south
elevation
number
three
there
to
the
left
of
the
vehicular
entrance,
it's
kind
of
in
the
middle
of
that
photo
there
and
it
just
comparing
it
to
the
site
plan
the
rendering
the
rendering
you
know.
I
think
it's
just
lacking
detail
on
the
site
plan,
but
the
rendering
is
showing
more
than
yeah
right
there
on
that
201.
E
J
F
N
Yeah,
I
think
the
I
think
this
site
plan
probably
airs
on
being
a
little
more
technical
and
and
highlighting
that
drive
entry
in
and
and.
N
That
your
comment,
stephen
lee,
will
kind
of
help
as
this
moves
forward
give
some
more
clarification
on
that.
One
of
the
things
that
we
did
do
was
reduce
the
width
of
that
vehicular
passageway
there
to
make
it
a
little
more
pedestrian
friendly.
G
Staff
had
raised
the
question
as
part
of
technical
review.
What
you
know
why
we
even
need
this,
because
you
do
have
access
from
central
avenue
into
the
parking
area,
and
I
I
believe
chris
warren.
You
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I
think
it
was
desired
primarily
for
the
hotel
drop-off,
so
people
can
kind
of
have
sort
of
nice
fluid
circulation.
I
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
echo
what
stephen
lee
said:
central
ave,
I
just
I
just
think,
there's
so
much
room
for
activation
on
that
side.
It
just
drops
off.
There's
I
mean
I
live
not
far
from
there
and
the
the
potential
for
activated
traffic,
whether
it
be
by
wheelchair
or
foot
or
whatever,
is
just
missed,
based
on
the
actual
location
of
this
parcel.
So
if
there's
something
that
you
could
do
about
it,
that
would
be
great
and
it
would.
I
I
think
it
would
change
how
people
engage
with
that
side
of
the
building,
which
I
think
would
be
a
benefit
for
the
community
which
speaks
to
one
of
the
matters
of
public
comment.
C
How
tall
is
that
darker
brick
part
on
the
right
side
on
number
four
that
we're
looking
at?
How
tall
does
that
get.
G
Let's
see,
I
think
I
noted
it
in
my
staff
report.
Let's
see
12
feet
tall,
I
believe
approximately.
G
Behind
this
wall
is
the
existing
hotel.
B
G
K
Raised
his
hand
yeah
yes,
what
we're
doing
here
is
we're
adding
an
addition
to
the
end
of
the
building.
K
It's
not
even
the
existing
sidewalks,
not
handicap
accessible,
so
any
type
of
activity
that
either
retail
space
or
something
that's
along.
That
street
is
going
to
be
dealing
with
some
level
of
see
how
it
starts
to
ramp
up,
I
mean
it's,
it's
relatively
non-compliant
once
you
get
past
the
existing
building,
going
up
to
the
corner.
Now,
what
we're?
Where
that
short
wall
is
we're
extending
out
the
width
of
a
hotel
room
on
both
sides
of
that
exit
corridor,
that
you
see
in
the
middle
to
try
to
activate
the
facade
of
that
building.
K
C
C
K
That's
part
of
the
exit
way
we
didn't
want
to
have
a
room
right
down
at
the
sidewalk
just
from
from
a
security
standpoint,
but
that
and
part
of
that
there's
mechanical
equipment
and
excellent.
That
needs
to
be
within
that
lower
portion
and
then
above
it
there
are
eight
hotel
rooms,
four
on
each
side
of
that
corridor.
So
there's
four
on
the
north
side
floor
on
the
south
side
and
each
room
has
two
windows.
E
Just
on
the
other
side
of
this,
you
know:
that's
what
you
really
see
on
the
existing
facade
on
the
on
the
right
side
and
also
all
of
their
laundry
existing
laundry
facilities
for
the
hotel
are
just
to
the
right
of
that
stairwell
on
the
lowest
level.
H
So
if
I
could
put
on
my
stephen
lee
hat
for
for
just
a
minute
as
you
look
at
this
image,
some
of
what
people
were
talking
about
is
the
mass.
But
a
lot
of
it,
too,
is
just
you've
got
a
immense
amount
of
sidewalk
with
nothing
else
going
on
it.
Just
doesn't
look
very
planned,
and
so
an
activated
space
is
not
necessarily
just
in
the
building,
but
it's
in
it's
in
what
you're
doing
in
the
landscaping
in
that
area
and
that's
about
as
much
as
a
landscape.
Architect
as
I
can
do.
F
K
G
Wall-
I
I
don't
think
I
mean
we
wouldn't
I
don't
know
that
we
want
to
give
up
the
10
foot
width
wide
sidewalks.
I
think
that's
pretty
important
too.
This
is
a
a
primary
pedestrian
connection.
As
was
noted
earlier,
it
is
one
of
the
only
ways
to
connect
north
asheville
into
downtown
like
either
going
under
over
the
interstate.
J
K
K
What
we
have
obviously
there's
not
that
much
space
in
there,
so
this
what
we're
struggling
with
is,
do
we
do
something
architectural
to
the
end
of
the
building
as
it
exists?
It's
not
just
something.
That's
a
decal!
That's
pasted
on
the
building
actually
have
space
and
give
up
an
opportunity
at
the
street
level,
or
do
we
paste
something
on
the
end
of
the
building
and
activate
something
at
the
street
level,
but
there's
not
enough
room
to
really
do
a
good
job.
J
K
J
I
think
in
the
rendering
that's
on
and
again
this
is,
I
don't
think,
update,
but
on
a204
rendering
number
one.
J
I
think
it
does
kind
of
share
a
concept
of
either
plantings
on
the
wall
or
green
screen
or
something-
and
this
is
again
on
sheet-
a204
detail
one
and
that's
not
the
latest
building-
and
I
know
that's
a
little
frustrating
peter
because
we
the
building's
evolved
and
it's
come
a
long
way
right.
There
too,
I
think
that's
a
good
reminder.
We
didn't
always
have
the
end
finished
out,
so
it
looks
better
now
than
it
did
a
couple
of
sessions
ago.
J
But
a
real,
simple,
green
screen
with
an
evergreen
bond
that
could
grow
up
easily
25
feet
could
make
a
big
difference
there
and
I
think,
also
really
really
pushing
the
limits
of
what
that
planting
system
is
doing.
If
you
go
to
elevation
4
on
sheet,
a203
really
pushing
the
limits
on
what
happens
between
the
hotel
and
the.
I
guess
those
are
apartments,
but
it
looks
like
a
terraced
garden
right.
There
push
those
limits
with.
C
J
H
J
Water,
water,
it's
gonna.
J
The
instagram
site,
I,
what
I
keep
going
back
to
in
the
back
of
my
mind,
is
the
fact
that-
and
I
guess
this
is
correct-
that
the
largest
building
in
asheville
like
so
I
think,
kevin's
public
comment
was
pretty
eye
opening
and
I
appreciate
that
comment
the
comments
very
well,
but
look
at
the
look
at
the
streetscape
that
surrounds
the
growth
arcade
and
how
that's
activated
in
just
so
many
ways.
This
is
larger
than
the
grove.
J
Arcade,
probably
I
don't
know
maybe
about
50
percent,
but
but
I
know
we
need
to
move
on,
so
I'm
gonna.
I
think
my
comments
have
been
heard.
I'm
I'll
be
quiet.
C
H
I'm
putting
my
hand
down
he
did
he
did
exactly
what
I
wanted
him
to
do,
which
was
focusing
on
on
how
to
activate
that
area.
By
really
focusing
on
that
piece
between
the
two
buildings.
D
D
C
N
Yes,
thank
you
one
clarifying
thing:
when
we
s
I
and
shannon
this
is
kind
of
a
question
for
you.
H
Well,
I
I
want
to
start
to
move
us
towards
towards
some
kind
of
resolution
so
so
far
we
we've
noted
that
there
are
at
least
four
conditions
exceeds
the
the
blank
wall
over
four
four
feet:
a
little
bit
over
20
feet
high.
I
think
this
one's
24
blank
faces
at
the
wall
level
on
central,
the
maximum,
horizontal
width
and
then
the
street
activation
here
on
central
that
those
are
those
are
the
things
that
we've
discussed
and
I
am
willing
to
make
a
motion
that
we
approve
this
project.
H
Encouragement
to
reinvestigate
and
redesign
the
corner
at
woodfin
and
the
expressway
on-ramp,
and
how
pedestrians
access
the
various
entrances
to
the
building
to
really
celebrate
and
activate
the
the
way
this
building
integrates
with
the
urban
landscape
that
do
that.
Right.
Stephen
lee.
J
Yeah,
thank
you
for
doing
a
concise
summary
on
that.
I'd
like
to
second
that,
please.
H
Okay,
yes,
I
would
like
to
make
it
I
would
like.
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
that
we
approve
this
project
with
the
following
conditions:
one
that
the
applicant
review,
the
interface
of
the
of
the
design
of
the
building
with
the
urban
landscape,
specifically
at
the
corner
of
the
240
expressway
in
woodfin,
the
and
the
pedestrian
entrances
of
the
building
at
the
various
points
around
the
building,
as
well
as
landscaping
and
or
public
art
activation
along
central
avenue,
with
additional
landscaping
as
possible
too.
H
That
the
we
are
noting
that
the
applicants
exceeds
the
maximum
horizontal
width,
but
they
have
provided
that
by
breaking
up
the
building
massing
and
orienting
that
massing
away
from
the
urban
fabric
and
up
against
the
ncdot
right-of-way,
and
that
the
applicant
also
work
with
council
to
provide
additional
civic
contributions
respected
to
the
size
of
this
project
and
the
impact
of
this
project
on
downtown.
C
Amendment
and
jeremy
seconded,
that
is
there
any
more
public
comment
on
this
stephen.
C
Okay
and
we
had
the
public
comment
by
kevin
fraser
that
we
talked
about.
I
think
we
mentioned
all
those
points
we
didn't
just
did
we
discuss
the
wood
fin,
the
shrinking
of
woodwind.
G
Either
I
I
just
note,
too,
that
I
think
that
whether
that
can
be
achieved
or
not
is
still
pending
approval
by
the
ncdot
because
of
the
access
onto
the
on-ramp-
and
I
don't
know
if
chris
or
warren
have
have
any
updates
about
the
traffic
impact
study
and
those
outcomes.
N
Hey
this
is
chris:
I'd
have
to
double
check
my
emails
here
I
apologize,
but
I
am
I'm
relatively
confident
we.
I
know
that
the
the
traffic
study
incorporated
that
the
dot
came
back
and
asked
us
to
put
signage
there
to
make
sure
that
we
maintained
a
clear
intersection
to
access
the
deal,
the
the
on-ramp.
At
that
point
they
were
okay
with
the
study,
as
is.
H
B
C
M
N
B
C
So
that
project
moves
forward
approved
with
the
conditions
we
noted
and
next
on
the
agenda,
we
have
informal
design
review.
We
have
two
items
for
informal
design
review.
How
much
more
time
do
we
have
sasha
and.
G
Shannon
well
that's
kind
of
up
to
to
see
you
all
the
the
the
next
items
are
informal.
So
if
a
commissioner
had
to
sign
off,
we
wouldn't
have
issues
with
quorum,
so
we'd
be
okay,
but
obviously
the
more
input
and
feedback
an
applicant
can
get
the
better
off
they
are.
So
if
you
all
are
willing
to
hang
in
there
a
little
bit
longer,
let's
see
if
we
can
maybe
at
least
get
through
the
first
item.
C
Okay,
maybe
we
can
shoot
for
two
o'clock
15,
more
minutes,
okay,
the
informal
design
review.
The
first
project
is
on
51
biltmore.
It's
the
a
loft
expansion.
It's
a
level
two,
it's
a
new
7
story,
condominium,
hotel
edition
with
105
rooms;
next
to
the
existing,
a
loft
hotel
located
on
the
corner
of
biltmore
avenue
and
aston
street,
or
a
loft
hotel.
I
never
know
how
to
say
that.
G
I'll,
just
I'll
just
kind
of
jump
in
with
a
very
very
brief
introduction
and
I'll
just
turn
it
over
to
the
the
project
architect.
Who's
on
in
the
meeting
here
with
us
today,
so
most
folks
here
are
probably
familiar
with
the
aloft
hotel,
which
is
a
part
of
a
mixed-use
project
located
at
51
biltmore
avenue.
You
can
see
from
this
rendering
in
the
corner
you've.
G
This
is
the
the
a
loft
hotel
and
if
you
were
there
today,
you
would
notice
that
there
is
this
sort
of
empty
space
at
the
southern
end,
where
there's
just
sort
of
this
empty
platform
that
was
always
contemplated
to
be
a
feature,
the
location
of
a
future
building.
So
that
is
the
proposal.
That's
coming
is
the
is
filling
out
that
site
and
adding
that
future
building.
G
This
project
was
reviewed
originally
as
a
conditional
zoning
a
number
of
years
ago,
so
this
additional
building
is
already
contemplated
in
that
conditional
zoning
approval.
So
there
is
we.
We
feel
that
there
it
is
not
necessary
to
amend
the
conditional
zoning
that
this
is
simply
completing
what
was
originally
reviewed
and
granted
permission
for
so
the
applicant
has
provided
a
a
site
plan
or
a
portion
of
a
site
plan
kind
of
showing
the
approximate
location.
G
So
this
is
the
a
loft
hotel,
the
blackbird
restaurant,
the
common
entrance
that
goes
to
the
restaurant
and
diamond
brand
retailers
to
the
to
the
south
and
then
south
of
diamond
brand
would
be
this
new
building
edition
and
kind
of
like
the
previous
project.
It
is
a
building
edition,
so
it
would
be
integrated
into
the
aloft
hotel.
It's
a
separate
condominium,
but
it's
essentially
an
expansion
of
the
existing
building.
G
It
is
proposed
to
be
a
separate
hotel
flag
but
owned
and
operated
by
the
same
hotel
group
that
currently
operates
the
aloft
hotel
and
I'm
going
to
stop
there
and
kind
of
turn
it
over
to
mr
lindsey
to
fill
in
more
information
or
ask
any
questions
buck.
Please
just
advise
me
tell
me
if
you
want
me
to
scroll
through
the
images
I'm
happy
to
to
do
that,
for
you.
M
I
will
thank
you,
shannon
board
members,
I'm
glad
to
be
with
you
today
and
looking
forward
to
your
input.
M
This
is
a
project
that
was
contemplated
during
the
original
construction
of
the
aloft
hotel,
which
actually
includes
three
individual
projects
all
existing
under
a
condominium
ownership
document.
That
would
be
the
aloft
hotel.
It
would
be
public
parking,
that's
owned
by
the
city
of
asheville,
and
it
would
be
a
liner
building.
That's
built
facing
lexington
street
on
the
back.
M
The
liner,
the
liner
building
apartments
were
built
subsequent
to
the
original
construction,
but
they
were
envisioned.
The
fourth
component
that
was
envisioned
would
be
this
hotel
edition,
which
is
part
of
the
same
hotel.
We
call
it
a
dual
branded
hotel
they're,
both
marriott
franchised
hotels,
the
aloft
and
the
moxie
are
both
franchise
by
marriott
to
this
owner
developer,
mckibben
hotel
group,
we
envisioned,
I
was
the
architect
for
the
aloft
hotel
in
the
public
parking
garage.
M
At
that
time,
we
did
provide
for
the
structure
that
would
be
supporting
this
proposed
new
construction
facing
out
on
the
biltmore
there's
a
concrete
podium.
It
looks
kind
of
like
a
small,
concrete,
concrete
slab
about
50
feet
wide
by
30
feet
deep.
But
then,
when
you
go
back
30
feet,
you
rise
up
three
or
four
stories.
M
So
it's
a
rather
complicated
concept,
both
from
a
physical
construction
point
of
view
and
from
a
building
code
application
point
of
view.
We
have
vetted
this
with
the
fire
marshal
and
the
building
official.
We
we
conceived
it
that
way
originally,
but
I
recently
went
back
to
those
two
individuals
and
just
confirmed
that
we
still
have
a
good
valid
building
code
application
for
this
project
so
shannon.
If
you
could
go
to
drawing
six
in
the
series.
F
M
There
we
are
okay,
this
would
be
the
street
level
plan
that
is
out
on
the
street
frontage.
This
is
going
to
be
a
cafe
open
to
the
public.
M
M
So
this
is
going
to
be
completely
an
activated
bar
slash
cafe.
That
just
happens
to
be
the
path
through
which
guests
to
the
hotel
come
in.
They
would
go
up
through
this
pair
of
elevators
or
if
they
arrived
in
the
parking
garage,
they
would
come
back
through
this
back
entrance
down
a
set
of
stairs
or
a
chairlift
elevator
to
the
main
floor,
and
then
back
up
the
elevators
to
the
upper
levels.
Can
we
go
up
one
level
shannon.
M
So
we
have
this
level
here
which
we're
calling
level
two
it's.
It
feels
kind
of
like
a
mezzanine,
but
it's
actually
bigger
than
a
mezzanine.
So
it's
a
second
floor
with
an
open
space.
That's
permitted
by
code.
This
would
be
extra
seating
area
for
meetings,
coffee,
lounges
guests
to
kill
time
in
go
up
one
more
level.
M
This
is
our
third
floor,
which
would
be
a
fitness
room
and
a
way
in
which
guests
could
come
from
the
elevators
to
go
into
the
aloft
hotel,
where
there
are
meeting
rooms
and
a
small
restaurant
on
an
upper
level
floor.
But
two
hotels
do
interconnect
at
this
level
and
work
as
one
up
one
more
level.
Please.
M
This
is
the
typical
floor
plan
that
would
tie
in
with
the
floors
of
the
aloft
hotel,
all
guest
rooms
with
a
small
elevator
lobby
here
that
the
stairs
on
the
back
are
existing
stairs
that
we
will
rise
that
will
rise
up
through
the
new
construction.
M
M
M
M
There
is
a
small
bus,
stop
covered
area
dead
center
in
the
front
of
our
property,
and
we
do
want
to
move
it
to
either
this
site
where
it's
shown
right
now
or
further
to
the
north
on
the
other
side
of
the
garage
entrance.
We're
talking
right
now
with
the
traffic
department
to
make
sure
we
are
able
to
do
that,
but
where
it
sits
right
now,
is
very
unfortunate.
M
With
respect
to
how
the
building
sits,
then
we
do
have
our
step
back
that
matches
up
with
the
step
back
of
the
aloft
hotel
and
then,
above
that
we
have
guest
rooms
along
the
side,
which
is
a
alley
we
have
guest
rooms
facing
out
toward
the
alley
and
on
the
very
top,
are
the
beginning
points
of
our
roof.
Terracin
restaurant
next
image
down
shannon.
Please.
M
This
is
a
closer
up
view
of
the
front
face
of
the
building.
M
M
Looking
at
it
from
the
opposite
direction,
this
garage
entrance
isn't
in
only
the
cars,
unfortunately
going
the
wrong
way,
but
we
also
propose
to
have
a
large
mural
on
this
wall
inside
the
arrival
area
to
direct
moxie
guests
and
aloft
guest
into
their
arrival
points
for
the
hotel.
M
So
that's
a
quick
snapshot
of
what
we're
proposing
to
do.
We
have
run
this
project
through
the
marriott
review
system
and
they
like
what
we're
doing
they're
totally
on
board
for
this
dual
branding
concept,
which
is
gaining
a
lot
of
popularity
around
the
country
right
now,
we've
actually
done
probably
eight
or
ten
dual
branded
hotels
around
the
southeast
and
that's
it.
Thank
you.
C
D
I
love
the
sort
of
industrial
steel
glass.
Look,
it
looks
great.
J
My
only
comment
in
regards
to
the
site,
the
original
aloft
hotel
development,
the
sidewalk
in
front-
has
a
very
unique
streetscape
treatment
that
is
really
unique
to
downtown
asheville
in
terms
of
the
design.
I
would
encourage
you
to
try
to
expand
on
that
and
pull
that
in
front
of
the
the
new
building
expansion
in
terms
in
terms
of
materials
and
just
trying
to
make
that
make
a
little
bit
more
sense.
What
exists
there
now,
but
that's.
G
J
G
Yeah
we
we
may
have
to
explore
that
a
little
further,
because
city
staff
have
not
like
that
standard.
That's
in
front
of
the
loft
hotel
is
the
staff
have
regretted
allowing
because
it.
J
G
It's
it's
slick,
it's
not
the
best
from
a
pedestrian
standpoint.
I
don't
think
we'd
want
to
replicate
that
again,
but
maybe
there's
a
way
to
pull
some
aspect
of
it
into
the.
J
That
it,
what
would
be
nice
if
they
just
rip
that
up
and
redo
the
whole
thing.
J
Just
to
put
it
a
little
bit
more
bluntly
because
it
does
stand
out
and
it
I
don't
think
it's
as
successful
as
it
it
could
be,
but
thanks
for
clarifying
that
shannon.
So
I
guess
what
this
demonstrates
is
that
the
the
streetscape
really
needs
to
be
carefully
considered
right.
There
thanks.
C
I
Yeah,
I
need
to
jump
off,
but
I
just
want
to
say:
I
really
appreciate
the
modernity
that
not
only
highlights
the
a-loft
but
the
historic
tree
buildings
that
are
across
the
street,
and
I
I
just
love
it.
I'm
sure
there's
some
technical
things
that
I'll
need
to
look
at
a
little
bit
more
closely.
But
aesthetically.
I
It's
been
interesting
to
look
at
that
pad
there
for
years
and
to
see
that
this
is
the
design.
Intent
is
really
rad
and
I
love
it.
H
One
you
need
to
just
volunteer
to
redesign
a
bus,
stop
that
it
actually
matches
your
building
two.
What
what
is
the
material,
the
white
material?
Is,
that
going
to
be
efis
to
match
the
aloft.
C
Does
anybody
else
have
anything
jeremy
and
kim
have
left
we're
dropping
like
flies
here?
I
think
I
I
like
what
you're
doing.
Also
I
mean
I
think
that
it
blends
well
with
the
aloft
building.
I,
like
the
big
glass
front,
I'm
excited
about
a
a
mural.
I
do
hope
you
find
a
great
way
to
use
that
old,
1800s
hotel
image.
That
would
be
very
cool.
A
A
G
I
think
it
does.
I
mean
I
think,
the
the
second
floor
matches
up
with
like
this
beam,
I
think,
matches
up
with
the
second
floor
of
a
loft,
and
then
this
also
matches
up
with
the
this
is
the
part
the
the
a
lot.
I
can't
quite
read
this
like
if
the
aloft
balcony
is
lower
than
this
balcony.
That
would
be
the
only
thing
that
I
felt
like
didn't
quite
match,
but
I.
F
G
The
rest
of
it
does
a
nice
job
of
kind
of
hitting
the
floor
plates
with
a
little
pop
at
the
top,
which
I
thought
was
kind
of
nice.
But
I
think
this
is
the
step
back.
That's
correct,
yeah,
but
it's
not
correct
that
this
balcony
doesn't
match
the
level
of
the
aloft
balcony.
C
L
Yeah,
actually,
I
apologize
I'm
on
another
computer
right
now.
This
is
eric
rowan
from
mckibben.
I
I
just
wanted
to
share
that
some
of
the
the
levels
not
matching
up
has
to
do
with
the
existing
structure
behind
it.
So
that's
part
of
the
reason
why
it's
not
all
lining
up,
but
we're
trying
to
work
with
it
to
kind
of
create
that
continuity
between
the
different
components.
L
M
I'll
ask
this
question
since
this
is
an
informal
review
and
I
think
we've
received
fairly
positive
comments
with
a
few
good
suggestions.
Shannon
will
we
will
be
eligible
to
come
back
to
the
next
meeting
for
our
final
review.
G
You
know
you
would
have
to
submit
for
a
technical
review
first,
so
we
would
take
you
through
technical
review
next
and
then
because
this
and
then
we
could
go
to
formal
design
review
after
that
and
then
after
that,
depending
on
the
timing,
too,
you
also
have
review
in
front
of
the
planning
and
zoning
commission.
It's
a
level
two
it's
ministerial
review,
but
it
does
have
to
because
it's
downtown
it
does
have
to
go
to
our
planning
and
zoning
commission.
F
C
You're
welcome
I'm
assuming
we're
going
to
push
collier
to
the
n.
Yeah
brian
needs
to
go
too
so
yeah,
I'm
assuming
we
are
pushing
the
collier
avenue
project
to
the
next
meeting.
So
if
nobody
else
has
any
comments,
I
would
say
that
we
should
adjourn.
C
A
C
A
A
Okay
and
anybody
who's
listening
robin
stephen
lee
and
ryan,
if
you
all
have
comments
and
I'll
tell
this
to
the
whole
committee,
if
you
have
email
comments,
you'd
like
to
send
to
peter
and
his
team
for
44
collier
before
the
next
morning,
that'd
be
great.