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B
Great
thank
you
good
afternoon
and
welcome
to
the
march
23
2022
city
of
asheville,
multimodal
transportation
commission
meeting.
My
name
is
dennis
wenzel
and
I
am
the
chair
of
this
group.
Our
meetings
are
continue
to
be
held
virtually,
but
there
are
many
ways
for
interested
parties
to
participate
in
this
gathering.
B
The
city
of
asheville
engagement
hub,
which
includes
a
variety
of
links
and
phone
numbers,
can
be
found
on
the
multimodal
transportation
commission
page
of
the
city
of
asheville's
website
visiting
this
page
is
the
best
way
for
you
to
take
part
in
our
virtual
meetings,
members,
staff
and
guests.
Please
remember
to
keep
your
microphones
muted
at
all
times,
when
not
speaking,
so
we
can
minimize
background
noise
and
other
feedback.
B
Excuse
me
I'd
like
to
now
welcome
our
commission
members
members.
When
I
call
your
name,
please
introduce
yourself
and
let
us
know
what
interest
you
represent.
Randy
warren.
D
B
D
E
B
Pal
john
bossani.
B
I
guess
I'm
john
here
john's
gift
off
a
little
bit.
We
can
come
back
to
him.
Maggie
wasn't
able
to
join
us
today.
Bill
lopez
cannot
join
us
either.
Leon
joyner,
leona,
joyner.
B
Kim
is
with
us
quite
yet.
Okay,
move
on
to
our
first
there's
kim,
welcome
kim.
B
Our
first
order
of
business
is
to
review
and
approve
today's
agenda.
Can
I
get
a
motion
to
approve.
B
Thanks
leanna
and
any
comments
or
questions
all
right
without
comment:
we'll
do
a
roll
call
vote.
Randy
warren,
I
michael
stratton.
B
D
B
D
E
E
B
Yeah
and
I'm
and
I
as
well
motion
carries
the
next
item
is
to
review
and
approve
the
minutes
from
our
february
23rd
2022
meeting.
Can
I
get
a
motion
to
approve.
B
A
second
thanks,
john
any
comments
or
questions
on
those
minutes.
B
All
right,
without
coming
our
question,
we'll
go
through
a
roll
call
vote,
randy
warren
hi,
michael
stratton,
hi.
F
E
B
Leona
joiner,
hi
adam
and
I
as
well
motion
carries
first
order.
We
have
no
public
comment
today.
First
order
of
business
is
the
college
patent
bike,
lane
project
jessica.
I
Hi
everybody.
We
have
a
video
that
we
had
made
in
partnership
with
traffic
planning
and
design,
which
is
our
local
traffic
engineering
and
planning
firm
and
asheville
and
bikes,
and
I'm
gonna
attempt
to
play
this
for
you
guys
and
it
gives
a
really
great
overview
of
the
entire
project.
And
then,
after
that,
we
can
answer
any
questions
and
talk
about
some
of
the
public
engagement
that
we've
done
so
far,
so
I'm
gonna
switch
over
and
hopefully
this
will
work.
Let
me
know
if
you
can't
hear
it
for
some
reason.
A
I
G
D
B
A
A
A
When
tasked
with
designing
a
bike
lane
for
college
and
patent,
we
had
two
options.
We
could
either
place
the
bike
lane
to
the
left
of
the
vehicle
travel
lanes,
which
is
a
new
and
different
way
of
bicycling
through
asheville
or
to
the
right.
Like
the
bike
lanes,
we
are
accustomed
to
using
the
project
team
conducted
a
thorough
analysis
of
left
and
right
options.
A
After
the
analysis,
the
team
determined
that
the
parameters
best
supported
a
protected
bike
lane
on
the
left
side
of
traffic
that
follows
college
street,
from
spruce
street
to
the
college
and
patent
intersection
at
pritchard
park
and
along
patton
to
its
intersection
with
broadway
a
protected
bike.
Lane
means
there
is
something
in
place
to
protect
people
on
bikes
from
motorized
vehicles.
A
A
A
A
While
my
goal
is
to
preserve
as
much
parking
as
possible,
both
the
right
and
left
options
result
in
a
parking
spot
loss,
four
on
the
left
and
three
on
the
right.
While
nobody
likes
to
lose
parking,
the
trade-off
for
losing
a
small
number
of
spots
is
a
downtown
that
is
safer
for
all
members
of
the
traveling
public.
A
This
next
point,
which
side
provides
the
greatest
amount
of
protection
for
people
on
bikes,
is
an
important
one.
Each
orange
segment
drawn
on
the
map
represents
a
section
of
the
bike
lane
that
is
protected
by
vertical
delineation,
which
we'll
discuss
in
a
bit
or
by
paint
or
by
parking.
The
left
side
includes
1300
feet
of
protection.
A
A
Looking
at
city
operations,
barrier-free
fire
access
and
trash
pickup
are
important
to
the
life
of
downtown.
Both
the
right
and
left
scenarios
have
impacts
to
fire
and
trash
services.
However,
we
were
able
to
design
for
these
impacts
and
you'll
see
evidence
of
this.
When
we
talk
you
through
the
design.
A
A
final
thing
to
note:
the
project
had
two
key
constraints
that
influenced
design
choice.
We
had
to
stay
within
the
existing
curb
lines,
meaning
no
changes
to
the
footprint
of
the
roadway
and
we
could
not
make
changes
to
the
signal
equipment
because
we
knew
of
these
constraints.
From
the
beginning,
we
were
able
to
develop
workable
solutions
for
the
right
and
left
options.
A
On
the
screen
is
a
summary
of
each
of
the
points
we
presented
the
left
side
protected
bike
lane
results
in
fewer
total
conflicts
14
compared
to
26
offers
greater
protection.
Remember
it
doubles
the
amount
of
protection
and
either
design
can
work
within
the
operational
and
construction
constraints
added
together.
The
left
side
wins
so
before
we
review
each
block.
Let's
cover
two
of
the
tools
we
propose
to
use
along
college
and
patent.
A
A
A
The
second
tool
is
the
two-stage
turn:
qbox,
we'll
call
it
a
q-box
for
short,
while
q
boxes
are
new
to
asheville,
they
are
used
in
many
cities
and
are
in
nationally
accepted
design.
Guidebooks
q
boxes
bring
many
benefits,
including
improvements
for
turning
bicyclists
space
to
queue
for
two
stage,
turns
bicycle
and
vehicle
conflict
reduction
and
that
keep
people
on
bikes
out
of
sidewalks.
A
A
A
We'll
cover
the
college
street
sections
first,
our
first
block
is
spruce
to
market.
The
main
highlight
here
is
the
addition
of
traditional
bike
lanes
in
both
directions
and
the
elimination
of
the
low
volume
left
turn
lane
that
exists
today
at
the
end
of
this
block
is
where
people
on
bikes
enter
the
protected
bike
lane.
A
Block
three
from
broadway
to
lexington
is
another
protected.
Section
features
of
this
section
include
an
improved
bus
zone,
a
loading
zone
that
was
on
the
south
side
of
college
and
a
driveway
opening.
Additionally,
this
is
where
people
on
bikes
can
link
to
a
proposed
climbing
lane
on
lexington
avenue.
A
Lexington
to
haywood,
which
is
our
fourth
block,
is
one
of
the
longer
blocks
highlights
include
a
parking
protected
bike
lane
between
lexington
and
rankin,
which
means
there's
parking
in
addition
to
the
bike
lane
buffer
between
people
on
bikes
and
people
driving
there
is
one
driveway
opening
and
the
design
maintains
parking
and
loading
zones
between
rankin
and
haywood.
The
bike
lane
remains
protected,
although
with
a
more
narrow
buffer
width
to
manage
traffic
at
this
intersection.
A
A
A
From
haywood
to
lexington,
the
bike
lane
remains
protected,
with
vertical
delineation
until
church
street
after
church,
the
lane
transitions
to
a
lane
that
includes
a
painted
buffer
between
the
bicycle
lane
and
the
and
the
on-street
parking.
This
painted
buffer
protects
people
and
bikes
from
being
hit
by
opening
car
doors,
which
is
known
as
dooring.
A
A
A
I
Okay,
oops
hold
on
a
second
a
law
intended.
I
Is
driving
one
orange
cap?
Sorry
about
that,
so
we
have
had
a
number
of
public
engagement
opportunities.
So
far.
I
We
also
handed
out
flyers
to
those
businesses
and
followed
up
with
a
second
letter,
I
think,
just
a
couple
weeks
ago,
so
we
wanted
to
first
start
with
the
property
and
business
owners
that
and
employees
of
that
area
that
we
thought
would
be
the
most
impacted
and
we
directed
them
to
our
city
website
public
input
page
where
they
could
register
for
register
for
the
walking
tours
and
register
for
our
our
virtual
open
house.
I
Our
virtual
open
house
is
going
to
be
on
tomorrow.
We
have
one
in
the
morning
and
one
in
the
late
afternoon,
but
we
had
our
walking
tours
this
past
week.
One
was
on
thursday
afternoon
and
then
we
had
one
on
saturday
afternoon
and
I
think
we
had
maybe
12
to
15
people
on
thursday
and
about
8
to
10
people
on
saturday.
I
So
so
far,
we've
had
some
pretty
good
engagement
and
we've
been
collecting
comments
which
we
will
categorize
and
summarize
and
then
meet
with
the
consultant
team
after
that
to
go
through
those
and
see
if
there
are
any
refinements
that
we'd
like
to
make
to
the
design
and
in
your
packet
we
have
the
detailed
draft
plans.
So
you
can
look
at
all
of
the
detail
there
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
I
that
I
can
at
this
time.
B
Hey
jessica:
what's
been
the
feedback
so
far
from
the
the
business
owners?
Is
it
pretty
indifferent
or
is
there
a
passionate
position
either
way.
I
Well,
we
haven't,
I
would
say,
we've
heard
from
maybe
three
or
four
so
far,
we've
heard
from
the
lobster
trap
we've
heard
from
aeris
hotel
we've
heard
from
the
museum
of
science,
and
these
were
all
folks
that
that
came
on
walking
tours,
and
you
know
I
think,
generally
people
are
supportive
of
the
bike.
Lane
project
as
a
as
a
whole
there's
concerns
that
they
each
have
with
specific
pieces
as
it
relates
to
their
their
business
frontage
or
their
loading
zones.
I
So
pretty
much
everything
that
we've
heard
so
far
is
concerned
about
loading
zones
and
concerns
about
potential
traffic
backups
at
certain
intersections.
But
nobody
has
really
thus
far
said
like
this.
Is
you
know
absolutely
horrible
that
they
don't
support
it?
We
haven't
heard
that
yet
for
many
business
owners
or
property
owners.
D
Yeah
so
first
I
just
want
to
plug
bill
loftus's
idea
about
the
micro
hub
concept.
You
know
some
of
the
concerns
are
overloading
zones.
I
think
that
micro,
hub
concept
that
he's
been
studying
would
be
a
fantastic
option
to
alleviate
some
of
those
concerns.
D
So
I'm
looking
forward
to
him
presenting
his
his
understanding
of
that
concept
to
this
group
at
some
point,
but
the
the
question
I
had
was:
how
did
this
project
come
to
be,
and
I
think
it's
important
to
know
like
the
genesis
of
these
type
of
things
so
moving
forward
if
people
in
other
parts
of
town
want
to
see
something
like
this
included
in
their
neck
of
the
woods,
they
they
understand
that
road
map.
So
can
you
walk
us
back
and
tell
us
how
this
project
you
know
originated.
I
Sure
it's,
I
would
say
that
it
first
started
getting
legs,
maybe
as
a
concept
prior
to
the
pandemic.
It's
it's
not
been
directly
recommended
in
any
of
our
transportation
plans
for
having
a
separated
bike
facility.
I
It's,
I
think
our
our
aim
plan
suggests
that
we
should
have
bicycle
facilities
in
downtown,
but
it
didn't
really
directly
say
that
there
should
be
a
separated
bike
lane
on
college
and
patent,
but
you
know
I
think,
staff
just
started
to
look
at
this
more
closely
because
it's
these
are
two
key
east-west
routes.
Obviously
we
want
to
try
to
add
more
facilities
and
then
I
think,
with
the
pandemic,
it
just
furthered
the
desire
on
behalf
of
a
lot
of
people.
I
I
think,
including
you
guys,
to
start
to
piece
together
and
network,
as
we've
seen,
bicycle
activity
increase
pretty
significantly
through
the
pandemic.
So
the
how
we
got
to
where
we
are,
though
I
would.
I
would
definitely
want
to
give
ample
credit
to
asheville
on
bikes
who
facilitated
getting
donations
from
connect
buncombe
as
well,
and
so
they
came
together
to
help
fund.
This
concept,
design
and
they've
they've
been
working
with
us
very
closely
on
all
of
the
public
engagement
activities.
B
Yeah,
I
could
say
asheville
bikes
had
their
spring
ride
on
saturday
and
there
were
several
hundred
bikes
that
went
through
and
I
rode
through
and
paint
will
definitely
help,
but
it
was
very
manageable.
You
know
you
felt
like
if
you
kind
of
stayed
you
know
I
had.
I
knew
where
the
plan
was.
I
was
kind
of
staying
on
the
left
side
for
much
of
it
and
it
was,
you
know,
very
manageable.
I
think
once
paints
down.
It
would
feel
very
comfortable
as
a
biker
and.
H
Yeah,
I
just
had
a
question
jessica,
and
I
know
this
is
maybe
slightly
outside
of
of
what
the
scope
of
this
was.
Was
there
any
thought
on
that
section
of
college
street?
That's
in
front
of
where
the
park
office
and
the
restrooms
are?
Was
there
any
thought
about
getting
rid
of
the
eastbound
lanes
there
essentially
making
college
street
transition
to
you
know
westbound
at
shoot?
What
is
that
the
the
road
that
runs
up
google
maps
pulled
up?
I
can't
think
of
what
it
was.
H
You
know,
in
other
words,
make
moving
that
kind
of,
because
you
know
if
you're
going
eastbound
on
patent
right,
you've
got
to
go
pat
through
pac
square,
and
then
you
can
make
the
left
to
then
kind
of
get
back
eastbound
on
on
college,
because
patton
obviously
dies
at
some
point
like
just
moving
that
one
block
closer
to
city
hall
essentially,
does
that
make
sense
and
that
way
you'd
have
a
maybe
cleaner
transition
of
college
street.
I
don't
know
I'm
just
curious
if
that
was
at
all.
F
I
Me,
let
me
make
sure
I
understand
which
block
you're
talking
about.
Are
you
talking
about
the
block?
That's
that's
between
broadway
and
market
and
making
that
yeah.
I
Yeah
so
you're
saying
to
market
to
spruce,
spruce.
H
If
you're
driving
east
on
patent,
you
have
to
go
through
the
square,
and
then
you
can
like
make
a
left
on
market
to
then
continue
eastbound
on
college
right,
or
do
you
just
continue
on
patton
through
the
square
past
market
street
down
to
spruce,
make
your
left
on
spruce
then
continue
on
to
college
like
that
one
little
one
block
there
of
college
again
right
there
between
market
and
spruce,
I
mean:
does
it
help?
Does
it
make
any
difference?
I
Yeah,
I
think
well
I
mean
that's
a
great
comment,
but
we'll
add
that
to
our
discussion
list
with
tpd
we've
gotten
a
lot
of,
I
mean
we
got
a
lot
of
really
great,
interesting
ideas
out
of
these
public
engagement
events
that
we're
gonna
seriously
dive
into.
So
that
is
that's
something
that
we
haven't
looked
at,
but
we
will
do
that
with
them.
I
I
can't
off
the
top
of
my
head.
Think
of
the
only
thing
that
could
be
problematic
there.
That's
just
popping
into
my
head
right
now
is
the
on-street
parking
that
we
have
in
that
location,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
it
couldn't
still
be
used,
but
that
would
be
something
we'd
have
to
look
at
more
closely.
H
Yeah,
it
seems
like
the
on-street
parking
could
stay
and
I
just
wonder
like
does
it
matter
if
you're
left
turning
on
market
as
you're
coming
eastbound
on
patent?
Does
it
matter
if
you
left
turn
it
mark
or
you
go
one
more
block
and
left
turn
on
spruce
yeah,
you
know,
and
does
it
help
college
be
a
little
more
friendly
to
just
make
that
transition
kind
of
right
there
and
spruce.
E
I
Yeah
I
I
should
have.
I
should
have
said
that
I
think
it
would
be
great
to
have
a
motion
of
I
guess
general
support.
If
that's
where
you
guys
are
where
your
heads
are
at
we
I
I
wanted
to
mention.
Also
we
did
do
this
presentation
with
the
downtown
commission
last
week
and
they
didn't
make
a
motion
yet,
but
we
will
probably
be
returning
to
them
in
april
to
seek
emotion
and
support
for
from
them.
As.
B
That's
well
does
someone
have
a
motion
to
like
to
make.
F
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
to
accept
the
left
side
design
and
to
move
forward
with
the
project.
B
Okay,
a
second.
B
Liam
a
second
okay,
any
comments
on
that
all
right,
beautiful
we'll
do
a
quick
roll
call
here
bear
with
me,
randy
warren.
B
I
think
we
got
you
ready:
okay,
michael
stratton,
hi,
candy,
armstrong.
J
So
I'm
reluctant
to
say
I
because
there
were
a
lot
of
like
I
walked
the
the
route
and
there
are
businesses
that
have
concerns
and
until
the
businesses
concerns
are
addressed,
I
feel
like
it's
premature
to.
E
B
Nay,
we
have
you
down
on
the
next
thing:
leona
joyner.
B
And
I'm
gonna
as
well
and
the
motion
carries,
and
I
I
absolutely
support
your
your
position,
john.
I
think
that
there's
more
information,
but
I
think
it's
important
that
we
make
an
expression
that
we
support
this
and
more
information
should
go
in
the
conversations
to
continue.
B
Okay.
Next
item
is
an
update
on
the
charlotte
street
road
diet,
jessica.
I
Sure
so
in
your
packet
is
the
same
presentation.
I'm
just
gonna
run
through
it
with
you
guys,
if,
if
you
desire-
but
this
is
the
kind
of
the
final
analysis,
if
you
will,
after
two
years
after
the
charlotte
strait
road
diet
went
in
so
we've
got
some
really
great
information
here
and
dennis
if
you'd
like
I,
this
was
kind
of
a
late
edition,
because
we
just
got
this
information
late
last
week,
but
I'd
be
happy
to
go
through
the
presentation
with
the
group.
If
you
guys
would
like
to.
B
Sure
yeah,
I
like
the
update,
I
think
it's
important
that
we're
as
we're
thinking
about
merriman.
You
know
it's
good
to
get
a
sense
for
if
this
is
showing
success.
E
I
I
It
was
funded
through
capital
improvement
and
went
through
bond
funds,
and
it
was
just
shy
of
about
a
million
dollars.
So
here
is
the
before
we
all
know
very
well,
four
lane
undivided
no
bikes
bicycle
facilities.
I
And
then
this
is
what
the
after
looks
like
so
center
two-way
left
turn
lane
bicycle
lanes
on
both
sides
and
then
some
pedestrian
improvements
throughout
the
corridor,
including
upgraded
crossings.
I
Here's
some
photos
of
the
crossing
improvements,
so
there
were
some
sidewalk
improvements
made
in
certain
locations
to
improve
ada
access
and
we
were
able
to
add
some
painted
medians
and
crosswalks
in
at
certain
intersections.
I
We
also
added
at
least
one
rrfb
in
the
corridor.
I
So
there
were
several
data
collection
phases
that
we
went
through.
We
did
some
data
collection
on
speeds
and
traffic
volumes
prior
to
installation,
and
then
we
did
two
rounds
of
post
implementation
data
collection.
We
did
the
first
post
implementation
data
collection
about
three
to
six
months
after
the
project
was
installed.
I
However,
you
know,
given
that
we
were
in
the
midst
of
the
pandemic,
we
knew
that
we
were
going
to
want
to
do
another
round
of
data
collection
after
that,
when
things
theoretically
turn
returned
back
to
more
normal
state.
So
we
did
our
final
data
collection
about
15
to
18
months
after
implementation.
I
For
the
different
metrics
that
we
took
data
on
so
travel
time,
traffic,
speed,
bike
pad
counts,
cut
through
traffic
crash
data,
and
we
will
of
course
continue
to
monitor
as
we
move
forward,
including
monitoring
the
crash
data
and
activity
bike
pad
activity.
I
I
That's
covid19
right
there,
so
these
graphs
here
this
is
adt-
is
average
daily
traffic.
This
is
both
directions
and
the
blue
bar
is
2019.
Orange
is
20.
20
and
green
is
20
21..
I
So
you
can
see
that
at
all
three
station
locations
on
charlotte
street
we
had
a
pretty
significant
decrease
in
traffic
volumes
in
2020,
and
then
it
returned
a
little
bit
back
to
normal
again
in
2021,
but
they're
still
so
far,
still
showing
a
slight
decrease
in
daily
traffic,
most
notably
closer
to
I-240.
I
And
then
this
slide
just
splits
it
out
into
the
am
peak
hour,
so
we're
seeing
a
I'll
say,
a
slight
decrease
general
decrease
in
the
am
peak
hour
and
again,
most
notably
near
i240.
I
Again
with
our
volume
data
similar
in
the
pm
peak
hour,
except
there
was
no
noticeable
change
up
farther
north
near
edwin
place.
I
So
we
did
see
increases
to
some
extent
in
peak
travel
time
during
the
the
am
so
you'll
see
here
we
had
some
increases
sort
of
in
the
mid
and
north
section
of
of
charlotte
and
travel
time
is
essentially
how
long
it
takes
you
to
travel
through
the
corridor,
and
this
is
inside
in
seconds
so
on
average,
going
northbound
we're
seeing
a
13
second
increase
in
travel
time
and
then
southbound
is
slightly
higher.
I
I
So
speed
results.
I
I
wish
that
I
wish
these
numbers
were
a
little
bit
more
significantly
different.
I
was
kind
of
hoping
to
see
a
more
significant
speed
reduction
after
post
implementation,
but
we
have
a
very
minor
decrease
on
most
of
the
corridor.
However,
kind
of,
interestingly
we're
seeing
a
speed
increase
near
edwin
place.
So
that's
something
that
I
think
we'll
want
to
look
at
at
some
point.
I
The
real
big
difference
that
we've
seen
is
the
very
significant
increase
in
bicycle
use,
since
the
project
was
installed
so
and
also
this,
the
after
data
was
taken
during
I'll,
say:
non-ideal
weather
conditions,
so
that
just
speaks
even
further
to
how
much
of
an
increase
in
bike
use
we're.
Seeing
here
and
pedestrians
I'll
say,
generally
we're
seeing
an
increase
near
chestnut.
We
saw
a
decrease
in
pedestrian
activity,
but
again
that
could
be
impacted
by
the
the
the
weather
that
happened
to
be
happening.
While
we
were
doing
the
data
collection.
I
Crashes,
so
this
is
something
again
we'll
continue
to
monitor
since
there's
so
little
crashes
that
are
happening
in
general.
You
know
the
we
we
tend
to
typically
want
to
look
at
five
plus
years
of
crash
data
before
we
really
make
a
judgment
on
whether
or
not
it
was
successful
or
not,
but
so
far
over
the
last
year,
we've
seen
a
decrease
in
overall
crashes
by
about
60
percent,
and
I
think
what
we're
seeing
makes
makes
sense
anecdotally
that
we
have
less
left,
turn
crashes
and
less
sideswipe
crashes.
I
I
So
this
was
looking
at
cut
through.
That
was
a
concern
that
some
folks
in
the
adjacent
neighborhoods
had
so
there
were
stations
included
that
measure
the
before
and
after
impacts
on
washington
road,
which
is
just
to
the
east,
I'm
sorry
just
to
the
west
of
charlotte
street,
and
we
we
did
not
see
an
increase
in
cut
through
traffic
or
so
we
saw
volumes
decline
and
I
think
we
saw
speeds
decline
as
well.
So
that
was
good
news.
I
And
here's
some
comments
that
we
received
after
the
installation.
We
got,
I
would
say,
overwhelmingly
positive
comments.
After
the
fact
you
know
lots
of
concern
going
into
the
project,
but
after
the
fact
we
heard
a
significant
number
of
folks
came
forward
and
said
that
they
appreciated
it
and
have
have
seen
a
really
great
difference.
I
B
H
Yeah,
thanks
jessica.
I
just
had
a
couple
of
questions:
can
you
describe
a
little
bit
more?
What
happened
with
that
head
push
button
and
then
also,
where
are
the
speeds
getting
measured
for
edwin?
Is
it
right
before
edward
or
just
passed,
because
I
mean
essentially
that's
where
the
road
died
in,
so
I'm
just
kind
of
curious
what
the
data's
saying,
based
on
my
anecdotal
being
out,
there
would
say.
I
Let's
see
so,
I
think
so,
here's
edwin,
I
think
that
we
put
the
the
counters
down
just
to
the
south
of
edwin.
So
I'm
not
I'm
not
quite
sure.
I
can
touch
base
with
tpd
to
see
if
they
have
any
thoughts
on
why
we
might
have
seen
a
speed
increase
there.
My.
I
Yeah
yeah,
and
I
mean
we
don't
really
that's
not
something
that
we
want
to
see.
So
I
think
that's
something
that
we're
going
to
need
to
look
at
more
closely
and
then
your
first
question,
oh
the
the
head
button.
So
I
think
I
think
what
happened
was
the
the
crosswalk
button
was
inadvertently
set
to,
instead
of
having
to
press
it
to
trigger
the
walk,
it
was
going
automatically
every
single
time.
I
So
I
think
once
that
was
remedied
that
that
very
much
likely
you
know,
decreased
the
overall
travel,
speed
or
travel
time
on
the
on
the
corridor,
but
that
that
was
inadvertently
set
to
pedestrian
recall.
Does
that
make
sense.
H
H
C
It
it
yep,
it
said
I
wasn't
muted,
but
so
can
you
give
me
absolute
numbers
on
number
of
cyclists
because
one
of
the
things
we
heard
from
merriman
both
at
the
meeting
and
then
a
couple
of
letters,
the
editor
or
that
nobody,
one
person,
said
in
six
weeks
and
they've
looked
very
intently.
They've
never
seen
one
cyclist
on
charlotte
street
in
the
last
six
weeks
and
it
would
love
the
editor.
And
obviously
we
know
that's
not
the
case,
but
is
there
like
you
know,
do
we
see
that
the
increase
in
cycling
on
it?
C
But
is
it
like
you
know
one
to
three
bikes
or
is
it
like?
You
know,
50
to
200,
bikes
or
whatever,
like
that?
Do
we
know
what
the
absolute
numbers
are
so
that
that
might
be
helpful
in
terms
of
people
again
saying
that
nobody's
using
this
recycling.
I
That's
over
a
12-hour
period,
I'm
sure
that
we
have
the
the
further.
You
know
further
delineated
data
that
we
could
tease
out
if
that
would
be
helpful,
but
I.
C
I
C
Yeah
anything
that's
helpful.
If
we
have,
you
know
well
in
meetings
we'll
have
more
about
the
merriman.
It's
good
to
have
that
too,
because
I
know
that
people
are
speaking
again
saying
that
nobody's
using
this
and
no
as
and
then
extrapolating
and
nobody
usually
experiments
for
vice
wing
too.
But
it's
good
to
have
this
chart
specifically
and
then
the
absolute
numbers
know
this
just
to
demonstrate
that
this
works.
You
know.
B
Yeah,
I
think
it
says
a
lot
and
it
also
kind
of
gives
us
some
information.
You
know
clearly,
the
two
roads
are
very
different
experiences,
but
it
gives
us
some
information
that
we
can
use
to
help
us
be
smarter
about
any
implementation
that
may
occur
on
the
merriman
section
as
well
any
other.
Oh
I'm
sorry,
joe.
C
Well,
I'd
say
just
not
the
merriment,
because
I
think
I
think
we
want
to
see
you
know.
One
of
the
goals
of
multiple
for
the
year
is
to
have
a
more
connected
bike
network,
and
so
I
would
you
know,
venture
to
suggest
that
every
single
four-lane
road
in
nashville
will
be
examined
closely
to
see
if
it's
eligible
for
a
road
diet
in
putting
in
life
facilities.
H
Well-
and
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
you
know-
I
was
listening
to
the
thing
on
wlos
again
about
merriman
last
night
and
one
of
the
things
I
keep
mentioning
to
people.
You
know
it's
not
just
about
the
bikes,
it's
about
making
the
sidewalk
safer.
It's
about
reducing
the
crashes.
I
mean.
I
think
that
crash
data
alone
is
huge.
H
C
H
Alone
would
do
to
merriman
avenue
much
less.
You
know
some
of
the
other
comments
and
I
would
still
love
to.
I
remember.
I
think
I
brought
this
up
one
time
when
we
talked
about
this
before
I'd
love,
to
see
somebody
with
the
city
go
out
to
you
know
the
fire
department
and
get
an
actual
quote
that
says.
Yes,
this
charlotte
street
works
way
better
now
than
it
did
before,
so
that
we
can
use
that
on
merriman,
because
I
know
that
you
know
there's
already
a
petition
from
the
retired
firefighters
saying
it's
a
horrible
idea.
So.
C
B
All
right,
you're
here,
okay,
any
other
comments.
Thanks
for
that
jessica,
that
was
a
lovely
surprise.
B
Our
next
item
is
the
consideration
of
a
speed
limit
on
the
city's
greenways
to
15
miles
an
hour
and
it
looks
like
kenny
might
have
had
fallen
off,
so
this
is
something
that
came
through
the
greenway
committee.
They
passed
it
in
january
and
it
was
a
vote
to
recommend
that
the
multimodal
committee
commission
implement
recommend
a
city-wide
15
mile,
an
hour
speed
limit
on
all
greenways
cycle
tracks
and
pathways.
B
It
was
a
motion
and
a
second
and
a
unanimous
vote,
and
so
I
wanted
to
bring
this
to
us,
partly
because
I
like
to
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
supporting
that
committee
and
also
to
have
a
discussion
on
it.
You
know
I
some
of
the
challenges
that
we
face
in
this
item
is
that
it's
very
difficult
to
enforce
it's
difficult
to.
B
B
You
should
slow
down
and
give
them
some
birth,
and
you
know
take
that
speed
back
a
little
bit
and
also,
as
we
see
increased,
you
know,
bikes
and
scooter,
e-bikes
and
scooters,
and
that
kind
of
thing
I
think,
there's
going
to
be
more
use
on
these,
whether
they're,
you
know
technically
supposed
to
be
on
there
or
not.
I
think
they're
on
there.
B
So
if
there's
a
way
that
we
could
have
some
type
of
you
know
just
information,
I
think
you
know
giving
people
an
opportunity
to
respond
to
in
a
positive
way
to
some
some
insight
that
they
might
not
be
thinking
about
when
they're
in
this
community
is
kind
of
the
direction
I
was
going
with
this
randy.
C
But
we
need
to
be
careful
that,
knowing
that
some
people
are
using
things
like
the
cycle
track
on
river
arts
district,
there's
a
and
other
green
mills
too,
especially
like
the
ones
going
to
be
on
sweden
creek
later
and
things
like
that,
dude
there
are
commuter
areas
and
people
are
using
them
for
non-motorized
transportation.
And
so,
if
I'm
riding
my
bicycle
on
the
cycle
track
next
in
the
long
river
arts,
there
will
be
like
some
cycle
track.
C
There,
I'm
going
much
more
than
15
miles
an
hour
and
it's
completely
safe
and
appropriate
to
be
doing
that
and
that
might
be
actually
encompassed
in
terms
of
what's
called
the
greenway.
And
so
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
understand
that.
Sometimes
we
call
things
the
greenway
that,
if
it's
a
transportation
corridor
for
commuting,
then
we're
actually
hampering
our
ability
to
use
the
motorized
gas
station
to
get
to
work.
If
we're
restricting
speeds
to
15
miles
an
hour.
C
You
know,
because
people
a
lot
of
times
will
say:
well,
it's
going
to
take
you
too
long
to
get
to
work
and
if
you
have
the
capacity
to
be
able
to
25
miles
an
hour
to
get
to
work,
and
it
makes
it
faster
by
taking
a
bike
and
now
you're
saying
no,
you
have
to
put
15
miles
an
hour.
Then
that's
gonna
actually
hurt
our
our
efforts
to
try
and
get
people
to
get
out
of
their
cars
for
transportation
to
and
from
work.
C
B
Good
point:
leona.
G
What
you're
suggesting
randy
is
that
when
the
space
is
intentionally
shared
and
not
singularly
a
bike
lane,
it
would
be
perhaps
valuable
to
have
speed
limit
notices,
but
in
places
that
are
intended
as
bike.
Only
to
to
put
a
prohibition
on
limit
stated
would
would
inhibit
the
use
of
that
in
its
most
expeditious
way.
C
Well,
it
means
multiple
considerations,
you
know
so,
let's
say
I'm
a
late
night
worker
downtown
and
I'm
on
a
greenway
that
has
absolutely
no
traffic
on
it
whatsoever
and
I'm
riding
my
bike
to
and
from
work.
You
know
it
would
be
appropriate
for
it
to
have.
You
know
a
20
mile
an
hour
or
be
probably
speed
wrapped
on
that
greenway,
which
might
normally,
during
the
middle
of
the
daytime,
have
other
kinds
of
traffic
on
it
and
make
that
feet
inappropriate.
C
You
know
in
in
the
city-
and
so
you
know
it's
like
if
the
greenway
is
packed
five
miles
miles,
power
might
be
the
perfect
speed
limit
for
it
and
if
it's
empty,
you
know
30
miles
an
hour
would
be
appropriate.
So
you're
heading
just
saying,
50
miles
an
hour
on
the
speed
and
same
thing
goes
for
roadways.
You
know
hendersonville
road,
sometimes
30
mile
an
hour
is
appropriate.
Speed
sounds
to
50.,
so
I
think
dynamic.
Speed
control
is,
is
the
way
to
go.
G
Thanks,
I
appreciate
that
clarification,
and
so
I
guess
you
mentioned
legal
enforceability,
and
so
I
guess
my
question
to
better
understand
this
issue
is:
are
we
talking
a
recommended
speed.
E
G
For
you
know,
based
on
conditions,
that
is
here's
a
best
practice
and
a
guideline
that
we're
requesting
of
people
so
that
we
can
all
be
good
community
members
together.
Or
are
we
talking
about
something
that
that
is
an
enforceable
requirement
of
folks,
which
I
think
randy
gets
to
some
of
your
concern
around
being
able
to
have
some
discernment
in
and
trust
among
users.
B
I
My
preference
would
be
to
to
try
to
address
any
conflict
user
conflict
issues
through
education
rather
than
legal
enforcement.
Firstly,
we
haven't
spoken
to
legal
about
this,
and
I
I
don't
know
for
sure
what
our
ability
from
a
legal
standpoint
is
with
regard
to
setting
up
speed
limits
on
separated
facilities.
If
even
if
we
could,
I
know
that
in
practical
terms,
we
would
have
pretty
much
zero
capability
of
enforcing
it.
I
I
think
the
overall
issue
that
I'm
hearing
is
just
the
the
mixing
of
users
and
and
etiquette
really,
which
is
something
that
I
know
a
lot
of
communities
have
done:
education
campaigns
targeted
at
trail
trail
or
greenway,
etiquette
amongst
users
and
who
sort
of
has
the
the
right-of-way.
If
you
will
so
that
would
be
my
recommendation,
but
we
can
certainly
have
a
further
discussion
with
our
legal
staff
to
to
determine
if
that's
something
that
we
can
even
legally
do.
If
the
commission
would
like
us
to.
B
Yeah,
I
think,
that's
kind
of
the
spirit
of
what
was
coming
here.
I
mean
randy
to
your
point.
I
don't
know
that
I
necessarily
agree
with
applying
a
speed
limit
to
the
cycle
track.
I
think
that
the
purpose
of
that
is
to
separate
those
modes
and
allow
folks
that
are
going
slower
on
the
greenway
and
then
the
cycle
track
really
is
a
more
fast
moving
area,
and
I
don't
know
what
the
final
solution
is.
B
Maybe
it
is
just
education
rather
than
an
enforcement
type
of
overlay,
but
you
know
I
I
do
think
the
the
fact
is
that
we
have
built
this
and
now
there
is
use
and
there's
so
much
use
that
there's
some
usage
conflicts,
and
so
I
think
we
just
we
can
help
to
manage
some
of
that
and
it
hopefully
it
is
through
just
education,
so
you
don't
have
to
have
somebody
out
there.
You
know
our
apd
out
there.
B
You
know
managing
the
managing
the
greenways,
but
you
know
so
I'd
be
certainly
open
to
that
concept
as
well.
Leanna.
G
Thanks
another
question:
the
currently
there
is
not
a
prohibition
or
restriction
on
e-bikes
or
other
motorized
use
on
greenways
correct.
So
right
now
it's
completely
available
shared
space.
That
true
or
is
that
false.
D
Yeah,
I
think,
the
last
time
we
looked
at
this
there
was
a
blanket
ban
on
all
e
vehicles,
but
there's
you
know
again,
it
all
goes
back
to
enforceability.
So
there's
there's
no
enforcement
on
any
of
that
and
that
had
come
from
when
bird
and
I
think
lime
had
dropped
like
100
or
200
of
those
scooters
on
downtown
the
city.
D
Freaked
out,
went
and
grabbed
them
all
up
and
put
them
in
the
impound
and
then
the
interim,
who
would
just
kind
of
make
a
knee-jerk
reaction
to
ban
all
of
them.
But
that
is
something
that
that
needs
to
be
re-examined
as
far
as
the
nuance
there.
But
I
think
there
was
some
some
legal
reasons
as
why
they
did
a
blanket
ban
as
opposed
to
individual
types
of
vehicles,
but
I
think
that's
something
they're
still
discussing,
but
we
need
to
put
pressure
on
it
from
this
commission
to
make
sure
that
we
get
some
clarity.
There.
F
D
Because
at
some
point
there
was
some
ambiguity
between
you
know:
what's
an
e-scooter,
what's
a
uni
wheel
or
you
know
all
those
types
of
things
I.
I
Believe
that
ordinance
is
specifically
targeted
at
e-scooters.
I
I
Right,
it's
all
it's
it's
e-scooters
like
no
for
private
or
sharing,
but
I
think,
as
michael
stated
I
mean
I
think,
that's
something
that
I've
heard
and
I
I
mean
I
personally
feel
like
that's
something
that
needs
to
be
addressed,
because
we
have
so
many
people
using
those
kinds
of
devices.
Now
you
know
so,
and
it's
only
going
to
grow.
B
C
Yeah,
I
think
two
we
need
to
look
forward
because
the
expectations
should
be
that
we're
gonna
have
a
lot
more
greenways.
So,
for
example,
like
the
sweden
creek
one
has
such
an
issue
with
ncds
design
of
that
road
improvement
where
they
decided
to
make
it
a
greenway
or
side
path
along
the
road
rather
than
making
it
a
dedicated
bike
facility.
That'll
be
used
for
transportation.
C
But
again,
that's
the
only
corridor
is
the
only
way
that
people
will
be
able
to
get
from
the
south
side
of
town
into
downtown
from
the
south
yields,
and
the
health
is
from
is
on
the
sweden,
creek
improvement,
and
it's
going
to
be
right
now
at
five
past,
which
would
be
considered
a
greenway.
And
so
then
this,
if
you
know,
rules
we
make
now,
will
apply
to
something
that
should
be
a
major
corridor
for
people
using
alternative
transportation
to
come
into
the
city.
And
so
we
don't
want
to
hamper
people's
ability
to
do
that.
C
And
hopefully
we
can
still
influence
that
design
and
make
it
more
commuter
friendly.
But
we
just
have
to
make
sure
that
when
we
make
decisions
now
that
we
look
at
a
city,
that's
going
to
be
much
more
multi-modal
friendly
in
the
future
and
how
those
laws
will
their
rules
will
be
applied
to
all
those
different
facilities.
That
will
be
much
more
prominent
in
the
future.
E
D
Yeah
I
mean
I
think
on
this
vein.
Maybe,
instead
of
like
enforceable
speed
limit,
we
put
up
a
sign
that
says
you
know
bikes
yield
to
pedestrians,
with
the
spirit
that
you
know
the
larger
vehicle
should
always
and
larger,
and
faster
and
more
kinetic
energy
based
vehicles
should
always
yield
to
the
one.
That's
got
less.
B
Yeah-
and
I
think
maybe
you
know
it
does
make
sense-
that
we
table
this
and
then
there's
there
has
to
be
some
best
practices
out
there.
You
know
this
this.
These
conflicts
are
occurring
throughout
the
country,
so
there's
a
way,
a
creative
way
that
people
are.
You
know
addressing
this
without
being
so
authoritative,
but
I'm
certainly
for
that.
B
I
E
E
I
Really
good
a
really
good
opportunity
here
to
partner
again
with
some
of
our
advocacy
groups
that
have
an
interest
in
this
and
we've
had
some
conversations
a
while
back
with
with
asheville
on
bikes
about
about
maybe
some
user
etiquette
types
of
signage,
and
there
are
lots
of
examples
of
that
out.
There.
B
G
In
terms
of
thinking
about
use
and
recognizing
the
public
nature
of
the
resource
and
and
the
benefit
and
and
the
tourism
destination
that
we
are
and
knowing
that
there's
a
current
ordinance
related
to
e-scooters
that
was
centered
on
commercial
use.
Is
there
any
consideration
related
to
the
these
recommendations
that
relate
at
all
to
commercial
use
or
are
we
are?
Are
these
two
different
issues
and
we're
really
talking
about
etiquette
and
how
we
share
space
and
not
so
much
how
that
space
gets
used
and
by
whom,
in
that
regard,.
G
I
I
guess
my
point
in
the
question
is:
it
is
one
thing
to
have
a
singular
e-biker
who
courteously
respects
the
request.
It's
another
thing
to
get
passed
by
a
string
of
12
or
20
people
in
a
tour,
and
it
does
change
the
nature
of
the
of
the
experience
for
for
everybody
else,
and
so
I
guess
I'm
trying
to
ascertain
you
know
are
we
are
we
talking
about
one
thing
here:
are
we
talking
about
more
than
one
thing
here.
I
Well,
I
think
I
think
that
it's
a
good
point
to
bring
up
because
kind
of
going
to
randy's
point
whatever,
let's
say
whatever
use
restrictions
that
we
put
in
place,
whether
it's
someday.
If
we
have
e-scooters,
if
we
decide
we
don't
want
them
to
be
on
sidewalks
in
this
in
the
downtown,
like
whatever
use
restriction
that
gets
put
on
any
of
these
devices
would
apply
equally
to
private
use
versus
sharing
companies
or
commercial
use.
So
that's
it's
good
to
have
that
in
mind.
I
B
Yeah,
so
maybe
we
table
this
and
we
look
to
see
if
we
can
find
some
guidance
and
then
bring
it
back
when
we
do.
You
know,
I
think,
that's
a
good
path
forward.
Everyone
good
with
that.
G
G
I
think
there
is
something
to
be
said
for
group
size
limit
when
it
comes
to
commercial
use
and-
and
there
might
you
know
it
might-
there
might
be
some
consideration
around
what
that
appropriate
balance
is
for
thinking
about
these
shared
use,
resources
and-
and
so
I
you
know,
I
hear
I
hear
that
that
it's
the
it's
the
mode
of
transportation
that
has
variable
uses
by
different
groups
and
there
there
might
be
other
parameters.
So
it
could
be
a
standalone
rental,
which
is
one
thing,
but
it
could
be
a
guided
group
and
then
what?
What?
C
Yes,
sorry,
vienna
brings
up
a
great
point
that
I
don't
think
asheville
is
rightly
ready
to
handle
this
point.
So
we
need
to
have
a
communication
vehicle
from
the
city
to
places
that
might
use
these
touring
things
and
stuff
too,
to
educate
them
on
the
rules
and
regulations
and
guidelines
and
everything
else
involved
in
this
too.
And
I
don't
know
if
that
exists.
C
Maybe
just
but
no
but,
like
you
know,
if
someone
gets
a
license,
there
needs
to
be
a
training
program
that
educates
someone
how
appropriately
to
use
the
facilities
now
that
we've,
given
them
a
license
to
use
or
whatever-
and
I
know
that's
a
tough
thing
for
a
lot
of
cities,
because
they
they
now
you
can
operate
in
the
city
but
don't
tell
them
how
to
do
it
in
a
way,
that's
most
conducive
to
collaborating
in
the
city.
C
B
H
Oh
jump,
sorry,
they
randy
and
leon
just
bring
up
too,
and
I
just
was
thinking
about
it.
I
mean
it.
May
I'm
going
to
take
randy's
one
step
further
in
that
when
we
do
reevaluate
this
whole
bike
share
study
thing
that
it
may
be,
let's
just
I'm
just
gonna
throw
something
out.
This
is
not
not
necessarily
a.
I
would
like
to
see
this,
but
maybe.
H
From
11
a.m
to
5
p.m!
You,
if
you
have
a
tour
group,
that's
using
e-bikes,
you
don't
get
to
use
the
french
broad
river.
Greenway
like
there
are
just
certain
times
that
we
know
there's
going
to
be
too
much
use
and
commercial
activity
is
not
allowed.
I
mean
this
happens
in
all
other
kinds
of
places.
So
again
thinking.
E
B
Great
pretty
good,
okay
first
item
in
our
unfinished
business
is
the
merriman
43
conversion
jessica,.
I
So,
unfortunately,
I
don't
really
have
a
whole
lot
of
information
to
share.
Obviously
we
had
our
our
open
house
last
month
on
the
28th
and
the
survey
closed
yesterday.
I
So
we
are
meeting
with
dot
in,
I
think,
a
couple
weeks
to
go
over
the
survey
data
that
was
collected
as
well
as
comments
that
were
emailed
to
the
project
email
address
and
and
if
there
were
any
written
comments
that
were
received
as
well,
so
I
don't
have
any
actual
data
to
share.
I
know
that
we
had
thousands
of
survey
responses.
I
I
Thoughts
following
the
public
meeting
definitely
saw
most
of
you
guys
there.
So
thank
you
for
attending
that.
I
appreciate
it.
I
B
Standpoint
there
was
a
couple
of
messages
that
were
bouncing
around
and
I
think
there
was
some
misunderstanding
about
what
the
next
steps
were
so
now.
The
survey
is
closed.
Ncdot
is
bringing
together
those
results
and
those
questions
and
they're
going
to
build
some
faqs.
Does
that
sound
right
to
answer
some
of
the
questions?
I
believe
they're
going
to
publish
some
of
those
questions
that
came
through
on
the
surveys
and
then
there's
going
to
be
a
time
where
they
can
kind
of
spread
that
information
around.
So
people
can
get
some
of
those
questions
answered.
B
Some
of
it,
I
think,
is
just
understanding
how
these
things
work,
and
you
know
it's
it's
everything
new
is
always
a
little
bit
different,
but
my
sense
is
that
maybe
from
the
next
time
that
we
meet,
which
would
be
april
27th,
that
we
may
not
have
an
opportunity
to
make
a
motion
to
council
and
or
in
in
time
enough
or
when
the
ncdot
makes
a
decision.
B
I
Well,
I
I
I
would
just
say
I
you
know,
I
think
I
think
that
the
timing
will
probably
be
okay,
because
we're
not
even
gonna,
see
city
staff's,
not
even
going
to
see
the
survey
information
data
until
like
the
week
of
april
11th.
B
I
C
C
Sorry
tim
was
working
on
how
that
was
conveyed
to
council
and
then
julian
mayfield
had
a
discussion
with
him
about
that
it
was
an
open
meeting,
so
I
say
that
they
have
a
decision
about
moving
that
forward
too.
So
council
is
working
on
it
and
they
do
have
some
input
from
us.
But
if
you
want
to
make
another
formalized
statement,
we
could,
but
we
have
made
a
formalized
statement
to
council.
C
B
Excellent,
any
other
comments
or
questions
on
that
item
all
right.
The
next
item
is
the
potential
transportation
related
state
level,
legislation,
agenda
items
for
council
consideration,
jessica.
I
I
have
no
new
information
on
any
of
the
other
unfinished
business
items.
We've
been
a
little
busy
with
the
rest
of
the
stuff.
B
Absolutely
randy.
C
That
council
says:
if
we
bring
anything
outside
that
agenda,
they
may
not
even
consider
so
it'd
be
nice.
If
we
had
that
from
the
council,
I
don't
think
that's
from
kim
or
how
do
we
get
that?
But
we
should
have
their
objectives
from
the
retreat
for
the
year
and
then
that
would
help
this
kind
of
like
the
legislative
stuff
about
the
support
and
things
like
that
too,
because
because,
if
the
legislative
things
we
want
to
support
aren't
on
their
agenda,
then
they
may
not
even
want
to
consider
bringing
it
up.
I
I
think
well,
I
can.
I
can
reach
out
to
the
city
manager's
office,
to
see
if
they
I
watched
the
retreat
and
my
my
understanding
is
that
there
were
not
necessarily
any
brand
new
priorities.
I
There
was
continuation
of
some
of
last
year's
priorities,
including
the
reimagining
public
safety
and
reparations,
and
then
I
think
I
can't
remember
if
they
added
anything
new,
but
I
can
find
out
what
the
final
package
was,
but
even
with
that,
like
they
still
have
their
13
strategic
priorities
that
are
ongoing
and
some
of
those
include
transportation,
related
items
but
they're.
I
I
think,
if
I
remember
correctly,
they're
mostly
mostly
related
to
transit,
but
you
know,
I
think
I
think
reimagining
public
safety
also
has
an
umbrella
over
traffic
safety
and
bicycle
and
pedestrian
and
vehicle
safety.
So
I
think
there's
some
overlap
there
that
we
can
work
under.
C
I
wonder
if
we
should
have
a
that
should
be
a
talking
point
for
future
meetings
is
how
best
we
could
be
effective
in
terms
of
what
we
propose
in
terms
of
fitting
into
those
priorities.
Just
saying
you
know,
this
fits
underneath
priority
number
13,
it's
like
subsection
b.
You
know
whatever,
so
that
we
can
make
it
more
clear
to
council
how
we're
trying
to
help
them
achieve
their
goals
through
our
work.
H
I
think
that's
a
great
idea,
randy
in
fact,
you
know
one
way
to
do
it
would
be
like
pnz
does
it
through.
You
know
this
particular
project
relates
to
goal
whatever
of
the
living
asheville
comp
plan,
I
mean,
I
think
that
would
be
a
an
excellent
way.
Obviously
that
takes
a
little
more
planning
it's
hard
to
do
a
spur
of
the
moment
motion
unless
you
know
all
500
some
odd
pages
of.
E
That
but
yeah.
H
That
certainly
would
be
a
great
idea
to
add
in
there.
I
did
want
to
make
one
comment
jessica.
H
I
think
you
mentioned
that
you
didn't
have
any
any
updates
or
any
other
information
on
any
of
the
unfinished
business
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of,
since
we've
already
talked
about
it
in
this
meeting
already,
the
the
whole
bike
share
and
scooter
thing
like
just
keep
pushing
that
one
up
a
little
further
and
then
the
right
away
stuff
too,
because
we
had
the
big
discussion
about
the
whole
right
of
way
for
the
avery
last
last
meeting.
So
just
I
know
those
two
are
still
kind
of
floating
out
there.
So.
I
Yeah,
I
guess
I
could
give
a
little
bit
of
an
update,
so
I've
got
one
of
my
transit
staff
pretty
much
my
only
transit
staff
person
who's,
giving
giving
five
hours
a
week
towards
the
re
I'll
say
redrafting
of
the
bike
share
study,
and
so
that
is,
she
is
actively
working
on
it
and
then
the
what
was
the
other
one.
You
just
said:
yeah.
I
Yeah,
so
one
thing
that
we
are
working
on
or
have
worked
on
is
new
fees
for
temporary
right-of-way
closures.
So
we
don't
have
I'll,
say
the
ideal
package
that
I
want
to
get
to
eventually.
But
what
we
are
proposing
for
this
coming
fiscal
year
through
the
budget
process
is
to
pretty
significantly
raise
the
fee
for
temporary
right-of-way
closures.
I
I
There's
a
there'll,
be
a
hundred
dollar
application
fee,
no
from
whatever
application
and
then
a
separate
fee
that
will
escalate
based
on
the
length
of
time
of
the
closure,
and
so
eventually,
I
think
where
we
want
to
get
to
is
besides
just
the
length
of
time
the
extent
of
the
closure
like
the
the
distance
and
how
many
lanes
and
things
like
that,
so
how
kind
of
different
variables.
I
But
in
the
interim
we
wanted
to
get
some
kind
of
increase
in
there
to
better
reflect
the
impact
that
is
created
by
these
closures.
So
I
think
our
estimate
is
that
the
fee
increase
will
bring.
I
I
want
to
say
it
was
like
45
50
000
a
year
additional,
which
is
a
lot
and
would
go
towards
likely
go
towards
some
of
our
staffing
issues,
hopefully
in
in
enforcement
and
and
other
areas
that
we
have
budget
needs
as
well.
But
it
would
stay
in
transportation.
E
B
All
right,
the
next
next
section
we're
gonna
go
through,
is
getting
some
committee
updates.
First
will
be
transit
john.
You
have
a
update.
J
So
we
have
no
update,
we
didn't
have
a
meeting
because
there
was
a
lack
of
staff.
I
guess
just
after
that.
B
All
righty
the
greenway
committee
met
leanna.
I
don't
mean
to
put
you
on
the
spot
here,
but
you
want
to
give
an
update
on
the
agreement
committee
meeting
at.
G
Sure
it
was
a
bit
of
a
site
visit.
The
intent
originally
had
been
for
the
greenway
committee
to
tour
and
after
the
actual
unpaved
proposal
that
would
create
some
natural
surface
trails
and
and
around
a
connected
network
across
asheville,
rather
than
actually
going
out
and
and
taking
a
walk
on
all
of
those.
G
We
looked
at
some
blown-up
images
on
boards
that
helped
us
orient
navigate
our
way
around
the
city
and
these
planned
trails
and
had
some
really
good
discussion
with
some
representatives
from
ashland
bikes
and
pisgah
area
sorba,
both
part
of
the
private
partnership
and
with
the
city
to
to
bring
this
proposal
forward,
and
it
was
great
we
got
to
have
some
really
needy
discussion
and
and
dig
in
to
better
understand
what
was
being
proposed
and
that
and
yeah
it
was
it's.
It
was
exciting.
G
B
You,
the
next,
is
bike
pad
frankie.
C
C
We
also
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
city's
proposals
that
reform
do
away
with
the
boards
and
commissions,
because
not
only
would
multi
will
disappear
if
it
happens,
bikepad
is
actually
not
an
official
committee
of
multimodal
it's
the
task
force,
and
so
theoretically
they
can
maintain
their
existence.
Even
if
this
passes,
where
all
the
commissions
are
going
away
and
their
subcommittees,
but
then
they
wouldn't
have
any
staff
support.
C
So
we
talked
about
that
a
little
bit
and
how
you
know
how
that
for
sure
would
happen,
and
then
also
too,
we
we're
trying
to
move
forward
with
a
vision,
zero
discussion,
because,
even
though
the
city
has
officially
adopted
a
vision,
zero
policy
there's
been
absolutely
no
action
on
that,
and
so
you
talked
a
little
bit
about
how
other
places
are
doing.
Try
to
implement
vision,
zero
sum
and
that's
not
going
discussion.
B
Excellent,
thank
you.
Do
you
have
a
pnc
update.
H
Yeah,
I've
done
actually
quite
a
lot
since
the
last
meeting.
Our
regular
agenda
didn't
have
anything
huge.
We
did
have
a
one
project
on
long
shoals
and
we
did
talk
about
some
how
to
mitigate
some
traffic
calming
and
enhance
some
pedestrian
crosswalks
and
things
through
that
project.
I
think
randy
knows
which
project
I'm
talking
about
it's
kind
of
just
to
the
east
of
ingalls
kind
of
fronts
somewhat
onto
lake
julian
there
we
also
had
a
retreat.
H
We
had
our
first
cleaning
and
zoning
retreat
in
quite
some
time
talking
about
racial
equity,
as
it
relates
to
zoning,
which
was
obviously
is
a
as
a
pretty
meaty
topic
and
then
probably
the
the
biggest
thing
that's
happened.
Shannon
tuck
has
left
the
city
planning
department.
She
is
now
as
of
monday,
the
new
town
manager
for
woodfin,
so
that
was
kind
of
a
little.
C
H
Ending
at
least
from
from
our
standpoint
but
but
good
for
her.
So
that's
that's
pnz
news,
excellent.
B
Thank
you.
I
don't
think
we
have
a
knack
update
on
i26
update.
H
Actually,
real
quick
dennis,
I
forgot
to
mention
one
I
was
gonna
put
a
plug
out
for
that
I-26,
because
I
was
looking
at
that
and
there's
an
interesting,
and
this
is
super
super
draft
from
the
planning
department
on
kind
of
patton
avenue
reimagined.
If
you
guys
haven't
looked
at
it,
I
would
highly
recommend
clicking
on
that
to
look
at
it.
It's
it's
pretty
interesting
from
you
know,
multimodal
standpoint.
B
Okay,
great,
thank
you.
We
have
please
note
the
staff
updates
and
our
future
agenda
items,
and
I
think
michael
might
have
something
he
wants
to
say
to
share
with
us.
Michael.
D
Yeah
thanks
dennis
I,
with
a
heavy
heart,
have
to
relay
the
news
that
I
think
this
is
gonna,
be
my
last
multimodal
meeting
as
a
commissioner.
D
I'm
definitely
gonna
to
tune
in
and
follow
the
work
that
happens
here,
but
I've
been
I've
been
at
it
since
2019
and
when
I
started
I
didn't
have
a
a
baby
boy
and
you
know
one
coveted
and
one
son
later
things
are
a
little
different
and
at
the
same
time
I've
really
tried
to
step
up
the
the
role
that
I'm
playing
in
my
own
neighborhood
and
trying
to
reestablish
our
neighborhood
association.
D
That's
been
dormant
since
2008,
so
we've
really
been
trying
to
pick
up
the
ball
there,
but
I
have
to
say
that
my
my
capacity
is
just
really
not
where
I
had
to
hope
that
it
would
be
and
the
work
that
is
done
in
this
commission
and,
I
believe,
is
really
important.
D
This
has
been
really
fulfilling
work
to
have
been
engaged
with
for
the
last
a
little
bit
and
I'm
proud
of
the
the
work
that
I've
done.
I'm
proud
of
the
work
that
we
do
and
and
the
trajectory
that
this
this
group's
on,
you
know,
I'm
not
sure
where
things
land
with
the
it's
all
the
boards
and
commissions
as
a
whole,
but
I
do
think
that
the
the
voice
that
we
bring
to
the
table
and
send
to
council
is
really
important.
D
I
truly
believe
that
we
are
a
conduit
between
the
general
public
and
and
council.
I
think
we
have
an
obligation
to
to
take
these
very
intricate
and
detailed
plans
and
sell
them
to
the
public,
because
we,
you
know,
we
know
that
in
our
hearts
that
these
are.
These
are
things
that
make
our
communities
better
and
more
livable.
D
B
Well,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
michael
very
much.
I
mean
I
can
tell
you
that
you
know
benefited
from.
You
brought
a
lot
of
passion
to
our
group
and
that
was
served
as
a
great
deal
of
fuel
when
I
think
we
needed
it
sometimes,
so
I'm
very
thankful
to
work
with
you
and
serve
with
you,
and
I
wish
you
all
the
best
going
forward.
D
Thank
you,
and
and
best
of
luck.
I
know
that
somebody
great's
gonna,
you
know
you
know,
fill
this
empty
position.
I
had
an
opportunity
to
speak
with
some
folks
at
the
merriman
open
house
and
just
seeing
like
how
exuberant
people
can
be
about
these
topics
and
how
much
engagement
that
they're,
willing
to
put
forward
is,
is
nice
to
know.
This
is
definitely
incremental
change
over
time
and
it
can
be
grinding
on
everybody
involved.