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B
A
Okay,
well,
let's
go
ahead.
My
name
is
eileen
mcmahon.
I
am
the
chair
of
the
homeless
initiative
advisory
committee
and
I'd
like
to
welcome
everyone
to
our
december
10th
meeting.
We
are,
as
we
have
been
meeting
virtually,
so
we
ask
everybody
to
have
patience
with
this
system.
A
We
are
also
available
to
the
public
and
there
is
a
line
for
the
public
to
call
in.
I
don't
have
those
instructions
in
front
of
me.
A
So
the
first
thing
we
need
to
do
is
take
the
role,
and
I
would
ask
if
you
are
present
say
so
and
if
not
we'll
mark
that
board
member
absent
david
bartholomew.
D
E
F
A
Amy
hobson
president
tamiya
jones.
We
have
lauren
instead
yeah
I'm
here
for
tamiya
eileen
mcmahon.
I'm
present
tim
mclegay.
A
Hi
guys
jennifer
teague
present
and
joelle
steininger.
A
Okay
and
I'm
hearing
an
echo,
is
everybody
else
hearing
me
echo:
okay,
not
a
problem.
We
have.
We
do
have
a
consent
agenda
before
we
do
that.
A
I
will
just
mention
that
I
was
asked
by
tanya
rodriguez
to
present
this
committee
with
a
couple
of
recommendations
they
have
made
and
to
ask
if
we
would
join
with
that
commission
in
supporting
those
recommendations,
I
believe
I
sent
them
to
everyone
by
email
in
order
to
add
them
to
the
agenda,
which
does
not
mean
we're
agreeing
to
them.
It
just
means
we
add
them
to
the
agenda
for
discussion.
G
Add
that
yeah
I'm
sorry
to
interrupt
elaine
I
just
because
of
the
documents
coming
in
so
late
and
and
then
brian's
email
coming
in
also
yesterday.
I'd
really
prefer,
just
as
like
a
point
of
information
that
we
had
a
chance
to
look
at
this
and
put
it
on
the
agenda
for
next
time.
A
G
Well,
I
mean
I'd
like
to.
I
know
this
is
my
second
meeting,
so
I
don't
want
to
get
formal,
but
I
mean
I
I
I
would
like.
I
guess
I
will
say
yeah.
I
think,
as
a
point
of
information.
I'd
like
to
you
know,
move
to
move
to
put
that
on
next
week.
Next
month's
agenda,
yeah.
B
Okay,
if
he's
asking
for
a
point
of
information
from
a
procedural
robert's
rules
standpoint,
we
don't
need
a
a
motion
or
a
second
and
so
basically
we'll
be
tabling
it
to
to
next
month's
meeting
for
consideration.
F
A
B
Yeah,
as
a
a
point
of
information
doesn't
require
a
motion.
A
second
can't
be
amended,
so
we'll
just
make
note
that
this
was
brought
up.
I
think
it's
okay.
If
someone
wants
to
make
a
motion
to
include
it
in
next
month's
meeting
agenda,
that's
probably
what
procedurally,
what
we
need
to
do.
A
Okay,
I
will
make
that
as
a
motion
from
the
chair
then,
who
included
next
month's
agenda.
A
I'm
sorry,
okay.
Okay,
this
is
a
motion
to
include
the
recommendations
from
the
human
rights.
A
I
agree
I
will
agree
with
the
motion.
Tim
mclay
is
not
present.
D
C
A
Okay,
jennifer
teague
agreed
joelle
steininger
agreed
okay,
so
the
motion
passes
this
will
be
held
for
next
month's
agenda.
The
next
item
is
the
consent
agenda,
which
essentially,
is
the
october
29th
2021
minutes.
A
Can
we
accept
the
consent
agenda,
which
basically
means
not
contesting
the
minutes?
Do
we
have
a
motion.
A
D
A
G
A
Sarah
cochlear
is
not
present.
Lance
crawford.
E
I
did
not
receive
the
consent
agenda,
so
I
will
not
vote
on
this.
If
that's
okay,.
A
Okay,
jason
desai.
F
F
A
H
A
B
Madam
chair,
but
may
we
do
have
a
new
member
lance
crawford
has
recently
been
appointed
to
fill
the
unexpired
term
for
his
predecessor
at
goodwill.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
had
a
a
a
chance
to
let
lance
introduce
himself.
Sorry.
E
Hey
good
morning,
everybody,
my
name
is
lance
crawford
direct,
the
director
of
workforce
development.
Here
at
goodwill,
I've
been
with
goodwill
for
about
nine
years
previously,
as
youth
programs
manager
overseeing
several
of
our
youth
programs,
and
I've
worked
with
several
of
you
over
the
years,
but
just
really
glad
to
be
a
part
of
this
group.
So,
thanks
for
having
me.
A
Thank
you
well
welcome
to
the
board
and
we're
happy
to
have
you,
and
I
would
note
also
that
tim
malkaye
just
joined
so
now
we
are
back
to
emily
data
and
coordinated
entry
updates.
I
Good
morning
glad
to
see
all
of
you,
I
will
be
brief
on
this
today.
Hud
reporting
season
is
upon
us
and
by
us
I
mean
me,
so
I
will
have
a
lot
more
to
tell
you
in
the
next
couple
months
about
our
annual
reports
to
hud
right
now.
The
longitudinal
systems
analysis
is
in
process
and
will
be
due
soon
and
then,
following
that,
we'll
have
point
in
time,
of
course,
in
system
performance
measures
so
more
to
come
on
that.
Otherwise
I
think
hmis
participation
is
going
really
well.
I
I
We
are
starting
a
process
with
our
coordinated
entry
work
group
to
to
develop
an
alternative
for
our
community
for
our
continuum
of
care,
an
alternative
to
the
bi
spadat-
and
you
know-
we've
been
talking
about
this
for
a
while,
but
we
have
just
sort
of
mapped
out
a
process
to
get
that
done
in
2022..
I
I
We
don't
have
a
lot
of
other
communities
that
have
cracked
the
code
that
we
can
just
borrow
from,
but
we
are
in
this
kind
of
learning
community,
together
with
other
cocs
across
the
country,
so
again
much
much
more
to
come
on
that
I
think
2022
will
be
a
big
year
for
both
both
data
and
coordinated
entry
in
a
really
positive
way.
Happy
to
answer
any
questions.
I
know
that
was
a
bit
vague,
but
there's
there's
a
lot
on
their
horizon.
A
I
do
actually
have
a
question
as
as
to
the
data
and
hmis.
To
what
degree
are
those
is
that
data
publicly
available.
I
I
can
run
lots
of
reports
and
provide
lots
of
aggregate
data,
but
there
is
not
a
there's
no
way
for
the
public
to
access
hmis
data.
I
will
add
actually
that
we
brian
and
I
have
been
talking
with
our
office
of
data
and
performance
management.
I
I
What
we've
talked
about
is
sort
of
rough
drafting,
that
ourselves
as
staff
and
then
bringing
it
to
you
guys,
first
to
kayak
for
your
input
about
you
know:
does
this
format
make
sense,
but
also
are
these
the
data
points
that
make
sense
for
our
community
to
be
reviewing
so
we'll
have
that
coming
sometime
in
the
first
quarter
of
next
year.
A
J
Emily
will
the
point
in
time
count
happen
between
now
and
when
we
meet
again.
I
I'm
sorry
to
tell
you
I
don't
know
when
we
meet
again.
We
do
the
point
in
time.
Count
is
on
our
agenda
in
just
a
bit,
but
it
will
be
at
the
end
of
january.
A
Okay,
so
the
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
also
emily
code,
purple
and
low
barrier,
shelter,
update.
I
So,
code,
purple,
I'm
glad
that
tim
was
able
to
join
I'll.
Ask
him
to
jump
in
if
he
wants
to
add
to
this.
But
we,
I
think
all
of
you
are
aware
of
this,
but
we
have
been
working
on
code
purple
plans
since
august
been
meeting
with
providers
trying
to
map
out
what
would
make
sense
in
our
community
this
year
and
also
looking
at
the
data
that
we
had
from
last
year
to
try
to
really
evaluate
what
the
need
is,
so
that
we
could
adequately
meet
the
needs.
I
So
as
of
december
1st
code,
purple
is
up
and
running.
That's
abccm
and
again
tim
I'll.
Ask
you
to
chime
in
if
you
want
to
abccm,
providing
up
to
50
beds
for
men
at
costello
house,
which
is
the
new
name
for
what
is
the
old,
steadfast
house
and
then
salvation
army
is
providing
code
purple
for
women
at
salvation
army.
There
are
only
eight
beds
available,
they're
doing
that
in
their
like
lobby
area,
but
we
are
looking
at
what
the
demand
is
like
and
talking
about
sort
of
overflow
and
additional
options.
I
I
So
we
wanted
to
exceed
that
capacity
for
men
this
year,
knowing
that
there's
bigger
demand
and
then
for
women,
almost
every
night
was
in
the
single
digits
last
year,
so
we
had
just
a
couple
nights
that
were
10
or
more
people,
so
I
actually
think
the
beds
at
salvation
army
are
a
reasonable
capacity,
but
again
we'll
you
know,
keep
tabs
on
that
and
work
on
additional
options.
If
we
need
to
do
that
and
that
tim
do
you
want
to
add
anything.
H
Lot
to
add,
after
you
know
your
your
update,
we've
we've
had
code
called
twice
this
month
already
and
we
haven't
seen
you
know
a
a
huge
amount
of
people
coming
in,
but
again
we're
just
getting
wrapped
up
the
first
day
that
we
called
code,
the
high
that
day
was
65
and
then
the
last
day
that
we
had
code
called
the
high
was
in
the
50s.
So
usually
you
know
if
we
see
temperatures
that
high
during
the
day
it
impacts
the
number
of
people
that
are
coming
in.
H
You
know
that
night
so,
but
I
certainly
expect
you
know
our
numbers
to
get
bigger,
especially
as
it
gets
colder.
We've
had
code
called
for
this
weekend.
H
I
think
the
lows
are
going
to
be
around
32,
but
I
think
I
saw
the
high
for
saturday
was
like
in
the
60s,
so
I'm
kind
of
expecting
the
same
same
kind
of
turnout,
but
again,
as
I
think
as
we
go
forward,
the
daytime
temperatures
drop,
the
nighttime
temperatures
get
lower
than
what
they
are.
We're
going
to
see
an
increase
in
folks
coming
in.
H
H
C
H
So
and
that's
why
we're
able
to
do
it
because
that
that
building
that
we
had
was
empty
and
so
we
moved
in
there
and
that
building
is
also
two
floors
right.
It
really
helps
us
out.
You
know
what
we're.
What
we're
trying
to
do
is
people
that
are
vaccinated
versus
non-vaccinated
we're
trying
to
put
vaccinate
on
one
floor
non-vax
on
the
on
the
other
floor
and
kind
of
you
know,
keep
that.
Keep
that
separate.
So.
I
I'll
go
ahead
and
move
on
to
the
low
barrier,
shelter
update
again,
I
imagine
all
of
you
are
already
familiar
with
this.
This
has
been
out
and
about
over
the
past
week,
but
we
are
not
moving
forward
with
the
shelter
as
we
had
planned
at
the
ramada
location.
We
just
have
not
had
the
the
sort
of
buy-in
and
support
that
we
need
for
that
particular
project
configuration
that
particular
dollar
amount
in
that
location,
so
that
project
is
not
moving
forward,
but
I
want
to.
I
I
want
to
be
so
clear
that
we
are
really
committed
to
developing
a
low
barrier,
shelter
in
our
community
and
we'll
be
working
on
that
immediately,
so
we
are
going
to
be
starting
a
new
planning
process.
I
feel
really
good
about
that.
We're
not
going
to
be
starting
from
scratch.
I
think,
because
we
have
had
so
much
discussion
over
the
past
year,
so
folks
are
really
familiar
with
that
concept.
I
think
we
have
much
better
community
understanding
about
what
that
means,
and
also
what
the
need
is
around
that.
I
So
I'm
hopeful
that
this
can
be
a
really
effective
planning
process.
It
also
will
be,
I
think,
a
much
more
inclusive
planning
process
than
what
we
were
able
to
do
on
the
armada
project.
So
I
feel
optimistic
about
the
likelihood
of
getting
a
low
barrier,
shelter
up
and
running
in
our
community
and
also
optimistic
about
a
planning
process
that
will
really
include
folks
in
our
community
from
all
sectors
so
that
we
end
up
with
a
better
project
plan
than
we
you
know
had
had
at
the
beginning.
I
F
I
I
think
I
can
give
you
a
really
good
update
in
january,
probably
prior
to
the
hayek
meeting.
I
think
that
we'll
have
some
information
coming
out
about
what
that'll
look
like
and
how
folks
can
participate,
but
I
don't
know
much
more
than
that
at
this
point.
You
know
it's
been
a
real
whirlwind
for
us,
the
last
few
weeks
making
this
shift.
So
we
are
getting
started
just
with
our
kind
of
internal
group
next
week
and
then
we'll
we'll
have
more
information
coming
soon.
I
I'm
sorry
eileen.
Let
me
add-
and
again
I'm
sure
you
guys
know
this,
but
we
are
continuing
that
current
shelter
operation
through
the
end
of
march,
so
working
with
sunrise
to
be
sure
that
folks
have
options.
I
So
we
right
now,
the
last
number
I
saw
is
that
21
people
who
are
staying
in
shelter
are
slated
for
permanent
housing
through
coordinated
entry,
so
those
folks
should
be
moving
and
that
time
frame
will
continue
to
be
slating
people
for
housing
programs
and
working
with
people
on
other
options
that
might
be
possible
for
them
between
now
and
the
end
of
march.
So
taking
this
four
month
window
to
to
wind
that
shelter
down.
A
Okay,
any
any
updates
on
the
new
plans
from
for
the
ramada
inn.
If
any
from
two
days
ago
was
that
that
was,
I
think
most
of
us
probably
saw
that
presentation
is,
is
that
is
that
going
to
be
considered
by
the
city
council.
B
I
see
nikki
reed,
the
director
of
community
economic
development
for
the
city
on
the
call
nikki
is.
Do
you
want
to
provide
an
update
for
the
committee
on
where
things
stand
and
what's
coming
up
before
council
on
tuesday.
K
Absolutely
I'm
glad
to
and
hello
everyone
if
I
haven't
met
you
already.
I
just
want
to
take
some
time
to
introduce
myself.
K
My
name
is
nikki
reed
and
I
guess
earlier
in
november
I
was
asked
to
serve
as
the
community
economic
development
director
for
the
department
here.
So
I'm
really
glad
to
be
with
you
today
and
hope
that
my
presence
as
part
of
this
committee
becomes
something
that
I
can
look
forward
to
in
the
coming
months.
I
really
want
to
make
it
a
part
of
my
work
as
director
to
participate
with
committees
and
really
see
how
I
can
help
foster
our
relationships
together
between
the
city
and
its
committees.
K
So
I'm
excited
about
the
future
and
in
working
with
you
all
in
earnest
around
some
of
these
really
important
issues.
This
is
a
point
of
introduction.
I've
worked
for
the
city
for
a
number
of
years
now
I'll
be
I'll,
be
completing
my
15th
year
this
coming
summer.
So
I
I
really
hope
that
I
can
bring
some
of
that
insight
as
a
long-time
city
employee
on
on
how
we
can
help
continue
our
work
for
the
past
several
years.
I've
worked
primarily
in
the
community
economic
development
department.
K
One
that
immediately
comes
to
mind
is
the
purchase
of
the
new
fire
station
that's
being
built
on
broadway
also
was
I
led
the
team
who
procured
all
the
real
estate
that
was
needed
for
the
river
arts
district?
So
that's
just
a
little
bit
of
my
background
and
then
more
recently,
I've
shifted
into
a
larger
economic
development
role,
working
with
companies
such
as
white
labs,
on
moving
to
asheville
and
bringing
jobs
and
investment.
K
Of
course,
through
that
time,
I
also
worked
in
deep
partnership
with
previous
community
director,
jeff
stoutinger
and
then
paul
d'angelo
on
doing
the
affordable
housing
bond
implementation,
so
the
25
million
dollars
of
affordable
housing
bond
dollars
that
was
allocated
to
the
city
in
a
bond
referendum
working
primarily
on
the
city-owned
property
component
of
that
so
looking
to
position
city-owned
sites
for
redevelopment
to
support,
affordable
housing,
and
so
for
the
past
several
months.
K
Really,
I've
been
really
understanding
what
this
team
does
primarily
emily
and
brian,
within
the
scope
and
the
landscape
of
how
we
serve
homeless
individuals
and
how
how
the
city
plays
a
role
in
that.
So
learning
a
lot
about
the
continuum
of
care
and
learning
a
lot
about
my
systems,
approach
towards
ending
homelessness.
And
so
I'm
really,
I
feel
it's
a
great
privilege
to
be
able
to
expand
my
understanding
and
my
knowledge
around
these
issues
and
really
hope
to
use
the
skills
that
I
have
to
help
us
continue
to
make
progress.
K
And
so
with
that
I've
been
part
of
the
project
team
for
the
emergency
shelter
at
the
ramada
and
now
the
permanent
supportive
housing
proposal
at
the
ramada
since
its
initiation.
Really,
I
mean
since
the
the
moment
when
we
had
residents
that
were
moving
into
that
shelter.
K
So
so
with
that,
I
hope
I
can
bring
at
least
some
experience
and
and
project
understanding
from
the
beginning
and,
as
emily
said,
I
think
you
know
what
we
saw
a
few
weeks
ago.
Is
that,
given
the
amount
of
funding
that
it
would
really
take
to
establish
an
emergency
shelter
in
that
location,
where
our
partners
were,
and
looking
at
the
long
term
needs
for
a
functional
and
successful
operation?
K
We
we
understood
that
everyone
was
was.
Was
you
know
the
community
and
the
funding
partners
were
saying
that
we
need
more
planning
and
really
for
that
that
funding
component?
That
was
critical,
I
mean
I
think
we
were
looking
at
the
cost
to
acquire
the
property.
K
So,
but
we're
happy
that
we
are
reorienting
that
project
to
be
on
a
partnership
basis,
and
so
really
not
just
the
city
leading
this,
but
to
understand
that
we
can
do
more
and
we
can
do
better
when
we
do
it
in
partnership
with
others,
and
so
I'm
excited
about
this
pivot
that
we're
doing
to
really
work
in
earnest
with
partners
and
and
emily
is
absolutely
correct-
we're
having
a
a
meeting
next
week
and
then
we
hope
in
january
to
be
able
to
provide
more
of
a
road
map
on
how
that's
happening
now
in
terms
of
the
permanent
support
of
housing.
K
K
K
K
It
really
does
take
take
a
lot
of
different
players
working
together
intentionally
to
to
make
this
happen,
and
so
with
looking
at
the
permanent
support
of
housing.
What
this
opportunity
presented
itself
as
a
way
to
use
a
different,
a
different
source
of
capital,
so
not
simply
public
dollars
at
the
table,
but
then
in
this
particular
configuration
with
step
up.
They
leverage
private
dollars
in
order
to
purchase
the
hotel,
renovate
the
hotel
and
then
the
the
public
aspect
of
the
funding
really
comes
in
with
that
wraparound
services.
K
So
what
we're
starting
to
see
is
like
how
different
models
can
come
into
our
community
and
function
to
really
help
help
resolve
this
problem,
and
so
I
think,
it'll
be
great
to
hear
their
presentation
to
city
council.
Of
course,
that
final
decision
does
rest
within
our
city,
council
members
and
what
we
are
are
teeing
up
is
to
you
know
one
assign
that
real
estate
contract,
so
the
city
will
not
be
the
owner
of
the
contract
any
longer.
We
will
not
have
any
responsibilities
as
it
relates
to
that
real
estate
moving
forward.
K
That
will
be
fully
assigned
to
shangri-la
industries,
which
is
the
for-profit
arm
of
this
group,
and
then
the
second
component
of
that
is
a
funding
request
from
the
city
for
1.5
million
to
the
non-profit
partners,
step
up
to
provide
the
on-site
case,
management
and
on-site
services
for
a
three-year
time
frame
and
the
and
the
results
that
we're
looking
for
is
a
hundred
plus
units
of
permanent
supportive
housing
at
the
ramada
location.
K
The
city
will
be
able
to
take
a
deed
restriction
on
the
property
to
ensure
fifty
fifty
five
zero.
Fifty
years
of
permanent
supportive
housing
use
there
and
through
seed
funding,
the
initial
services
at
the
500
000
a
year
that
enables
step
up
to
get
established
and
then
hopefully
diversify
their
funding
in
the
future
years
to
ensure
that
those
services
are
met,
so
100
plus
units
of
apartments,
permanent
housing
right
now,
that's
structured
as
as
54,
homeless
veterans
and
50
for
the
chronic
homeless.
K
So
I
hope
that
we're
able
then
to
present
this
to
city
council
on
tuesday
night
and
and
and
see
what
decision
they
want
to
make.
But
we
do
believe
that
that
this
was
was
something
that
we
felt
we
could.
We
could
recommend.
So
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
again.
K
I
appreciate
the
recognition
that
I
am
coming
from
this
very
much
from
you
know
my
background
in
real
estate,
but
really
trying
to
to
learn
quick
on
on
some
of
what
both
emily
and
brian
have
brought
to
the
table
with
their
expertise
and
as
well
as
what
our
partners
know
and
understand
from
each
of
their
viewpoints
so
happy
to
answer
any
questions,
but
I
think
bottom
line.
I
just
wanted
the
committee
to
know
that
I'm
here
I'm
really
happy
to
be
here
and
I'm
happy
and
looking
forward
to
our
work
together.
K
K
So
it's
a
staff
recommendation
so
certainly
as
public
servants.
That
is
absolutely
our
job
is
to
be
the
experts
in
this
and
really
to
provide
recommendations
to
council
that
we
believe
meet
the
strategic
goals
of
our
city
council
within
the
framework
of
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish.
A
B
And
I
don't
know
if
david
or
joelle
want
to
speak
to
the
the
voucher
portion
of
the
support
for
the
permanent
supportive
housing.
We
had
a
couple
of
meetings,
so
david
or
joelle
either
either
of
you
want
to
add
anything
to
the
discussions
that
have
been
taking
place
about
project-based
vouchers.
For
for
this
particular
operation,.
F
F
That's
fine,
I'm
joel
steininger,
I'm
the
homeless
program
coordinator
at
the
asheville
va
medical
center
and
we
have
been
in
conversations
like
brian
said,
with
shangri-la
and
housing
authority,
and
we
are
committed
to.
I
mean
we're
happy
to
have
some
project-based
vouchers
for
our
homeless
veterans
at
this
new
project,
so
we're
in
conversation
with
our
central
office
to
see
how
how
we
can
get
those
vouchers
and
the
process
for
allocating
them
and
in
terms
of
numbers
I
mean
I
feel.
J
F
We'll
take
as
much
as
we
can
get
and
manage,
but
definitely
would
like
to
look
at
10,
so
something
along
those
lines.
D
And
from
our
perspective,
we've
we
have
actually
had
a
a
an
rfp
out
for
a
couple
of
years
for
up
to
50
vash,
project-based
vouchers,
so
devoting
50
of
our
tenant-based
vouchers
to
a
project-based
community,
and
we
haven't
had
any
takers
so
far,
the
we
also
have
an
rfp
out
for
up
to
100
other
homeless
vouchers
and
80
of
those
have
been
preliminarily
committed
to
homeward
bound
at
the
tunnel
road
location.
D
We
haven't
made
any
commitments
to
this
project,
except
to
tell
them
that
we
do
have
available
vouchers
and
we
will
be
putting
on
an
rfp
and
they
they
express
some
interest
in
that.
I
feel
like
we.
We've
struggled
for
many
years
to
lease
up
all
of
our
vash
vouchers
and
have
never
gotten
there.
So
I
think
that
having
50
dedicated
units,
if
that's
where
it
turns
out,
will
will
help
us
close
that
gap
and,
of
course
we
know
there
are
well.
A
The
the
concerns
that
I've
heard
from
people
have
more
to
do
with
it
being
going
to
people
from
california
to
provide
services
here.
When
we,
I
don't
know
about
the
private
investment
capital,
it
actually
sounds
like
a
good
investment
for
an
investor,
but
we
do
have
very
good
homeless
service
organizations
in
this
area
are.
Are
they
not
available
to
provide
these
services.
A
D
A
B
And
nikki,
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
speak
to
some
of
the
conversations
you
know
we've
had
in
the
last
couple
of
days
with
todd.
I
certainly
don't
want
to
speak
for
todd.
Look
at
he's
the
ceo
for
step
up,
but
basically
these
two
organizations
have
worked
together
for
almost
10
years
now
on
multiple
similar
projects,
they've
figured
out
how
to
do
it
together.
B
They
do
some
projects
where
they
are
co-developers,
so
there
are
funds
for
each
organization
that
are
intermingled,
so
they
they
kind
of
come
as
a
package
deal
and
shangri-la,
as
the
primary
developer
has
gotten
very
comfortable
with
how
step
up
delivers
services,
they
have
a
97
retention
rate
in
the
properties
that
they've
done
and,
of
course
you
know,
if
you're
an
investor
in
a
project
like
this,
which
is
you
know,
these
types
of
projects
are
extremely
complicated
and
extremely
risky
from
an
investment
perspective.
B
When
you've
got
a
partner
like
that,
who
is
you
know,
keeping
keeping
people
housed
and
maintaining
the
rental
income,
then
that's.
You
know
certainly
very.
B
To
the
investors
in
this,
and
it's
a
it's
a
it's
a
mix
of
of
shangri-la's
own
capital,
a
small
pool
of
mission-minded
investors,
and
then
they
they
borrow
from
some
of
their
own
against
some
of
their
existing
assets.
So
you
know
they've
got
to
make
sure
that
their
investment
is
as
safe
as
it
can
be,
and
they
have
found
successful
partnership
with
step
up
and
so
step
up
would
be
part
of
any
service
provision
that
for
a
project.
If
council
approves
this
to
move
forward
on
tuesday.
K
And
I'll
just
follow
up
by
saying
this
is
a
question:
that's
come
up
so
we'll
be
sure
to
address
it
and
have
todd
who's.
The
representative
from
step
up,
who
will
be
speaking
at
council
tuesday
night,
we'll
be
sure
to
cover
this,
because
this
has
become
a
question
that
we've
understood
from
the
community,
and
we
have
heard
yesterday
todd
answered
a
number
of
questions
around
this
with
the
coalition
of
asheville
neighborhoods.
K
When
we
met
with
two
of
their
executive
committee
members
and
from
what
I
understand
you
know,
they
have
a
they'll,
have
a
regional
manager
who
one
of
the
the
first
duties
of
this
regional
manager
that
serves
for
the
southeast
region,
arthur
murray,
he's
out
of
atlanta
he'll,
be
on
boarding
the
site
early
on
and
hiring
locally.
So
the
case
managers,
of
course,
and
everyone
who
there's,
I
think
a
couple
staff
members
that
will
actually
live
on
site
will
be
local
hires.
So
I
think
more
to
come
on
that.
K
I
don't
want
to
really
speak
for
them,
because
I
I
don't.
I
think
some
of
those
details
are
are
directly
heard
from
todd
or
better.
But
I
understand
that
that's
at
least
something
that
we
can.
We
can
count
on.
I
yeah
and
so
I'll
be
sure
that
we
cover
that
in
the
city
council
meeting
on
tuesday.
F
Also,
I
could
weigh
in
that
when
we
were
in
talks
with
shangri-la,
I
did
get
to
meet
todd
at
and
hear
his
presentation
and
his
data
metrics
and
you
know,
sounded
like
they
absolutely
know
what
they're
doing
and
I
feel
pretty
confident
about
their
services.
A
Okay,
so
next
thing
on
the
agenda
is
the
2022
point
in
time
count
emily
and
brian.
I
Sure
so
we
point
time
count
is
already
here.
Somehow
a
whole
year
has
gone
by,
we
have
started
planning.
We've
had
one
planning
meeting
with
folks
who
were
heavily
involved
in
last
year's
count.
We
still
have
some
decisions
to
make
so
point
in
time.
Count
by
hud
requirements
has
to
be
sometime
within
the
last
10
days
of
january.
What
we
have
traditionally
done
in
our
community
is
the
last
wednesday
of
the
month.
I
Last
year
we
had
some
discussion
about
possibly
bumping
that
back
one
day
and
doing
tuesday
instead,
so
that
on
wednesday
we
could
count
folks
at
haywood
street,
which
is
such
a
big
hub
for
people,
so
that
we
could
ask
them
where
they
were
the
night
before
we
can't
count
them
on
wednesday.
To
say:
where
are
you
gonna
sleep
tonight,
because
that
point
in
the
day
you
know
anything
could
change
between
now
and
then,
and
so
the
account
just
doesn't
work
that
way.
I
So
we
I've
not
been
able
to
connect
with
anybody
at
haywood
street
yet,
but
I
am
working
on
that
to
talk
about
that
possibility.
So
that
means
the
count
will
either
be
january,
25th
or
26th,
and
I
think
that
we
will
largely
follow
the
same
format
that
we
had
last
year.
I
felt
like
that
worked
really.
Well,
I
think
that's
that
was
good
methodology
for
us,
so
we
had
a
lot
of
volunteer
participation.
40
some
people
participated
in
that
street
count.
I
We
had
really
detailed
geographic
areas
for
teams
to
cover
so
that
we
had
better
coverage
than
we've
had
in
the
past,
and
so
we're
looking
to
just
replicate
that
this
year,
we'll
certainly
be
asking
for
volunteers.
I
think
one
other
change
that
we'll
be
looking
at
this
year
compared
to
last
year
is
last
year
for
the
first
time
that
I
can
remember
anyway.
I
We
did
a
street
count
that
evening
and
then
again
very
early
the
next
morning
to
try
to
catch
folks
that
we
might
not
otherwise
have
connected
with,
and
we
we
had
so
we
sent
volunteer
teams
out
at
6
a.m
the
day
after,
and
I
think
that
didn't
actually
work
very
well
people.
They
either
didn't
find
a
lot
of
people
or
people
were
asleep
and
didn't
want
to
talk
to
them,
and
so
we
didn't
end
up
collecting
a
lot
of
data
from
that.
I
So
what
I
think
we
will
do
this
year
instead
is
ask
our
professional
street
outreach
teams
in
our
community
to
do
some
just
really
targeted
outreach
that
day
after
the
count
to
see
if
they
can
connect
with
folks
and
we'll
coordinate
coverage,
so
that
we
have
good
distribution
across
the
community.
So
all
of
that
is
in
motion
right
now
and
the
the
sheltered
count,
of
course
very
straightforward.
I
A
F
Can
I
nominate
mr
crawford
sure.
A
A
B
That's
up
to
the
committee,
you
know
we'll
we
need
to
have
a
vice
chair
in
place
to
temporarily.
You
know,
run
meetings
in
the
absence
of
the
chair.
Our
current
chairs
term
ends
in
february
and
she's
decided
not
to
reapply.
If
I
understood
that
correctly,
so
we
need
to
have
a
vice
chair
in
place
to
conduct
the
the
meetings
until
such
time
as
we
figure
out
a
permanent
chair
and
if
the
vice
chair
that
does
get
appointed
wants
to
step
up
into
that
role,
that's
certainly
possible
that
it's
not
obligatory.
A
B
I
will
I
will
follow
up
and
reach
out
to
her
and
see
if
she
would
be
interested
and
then,
at
our
january
meeting
we
can
formalize
that
appointment.
C
Yes,
I'm
still
here,
I
am
just
checking
on
that
right
now,.
A
Okay,
are
there
any
other
matters
that
need
to
be
brought
before
the
board
before
we
adjourn.
J
I
did
want
to
ask
for
clarification
around
our
last
month.
We
had
talked
about
meeting
more
regularly
and
I
thought
that
there
was
some
conversation
around
that
the
city
would
be
looking
at
availability
times
to
continue
to
be
able
to
do
virtual
meetings
and
just
wanted
to
circle
back
to
that
to
see
if
that
would
be
a
possibility
for
us
to
start
and
right.
2020.
A
Yeah
I
mean
I
agree
with
that.
I
think
we're
incredibly
constrained
in
what
we
can
do
when
everything
happens
in
between
meetings,
it
sort
of
limits,
our
input.
K
And
I
can
chime
in
there
because
again,
this
is
something
that
I
feel
like
is
in
my
role
as
director.
I'm
really
wanting
to
support
staff
and
support
the
committee
work
that
we
do
and
so
I'll
be
taking
a
look
at
all
the
several
committees
that
our
department
manages
we're
involved
with
the
housing
and
community
development
committee.
K
That's
a
council
committee,
as
well
as
the
affordable
housing
advisory
committee,
this
committee
and
then
the
home
consortiums,
that's
quite
a
lot
for
our
small
team
and
so
we're
trying
to
really
identify
some
ways
that
we
can
continue
to
support
that.
So
I
can
certainly
help
with
that
and
take
a
look
at
that
and
help
guide
that
through,
and
so
I
think
when
is
the
next
meeting
currently
scheduled.
Has
that
been
set
yet
yeah.
K
I
think
all
that's
good
stuff
and
I'm
ready,
I
mean
I
think
I
think
brian
I've
had
numerous
conversations
about
how
this
committee
intersects,
with
the
continue
of
care
and
the
framework
around
our
federal
obligations
and
things
like
that.
So
again,
learning
a
lot,
but
also
trying
to
learn
too
how
I
can
assist
with
that,
and
so
I
ask
for
your
patience
only
because
you
know
I
don't
just
just
so.
K
You
know:
we've
had
some
staffing
changes
with
the
city
of
asheville,
our
community
development
director,
paul
d'angelo,
has
taken
a
new
job.
We
have
some
vacancies,
so
we
are.
We
are
in
a
bit
of
really
having
some
issues
with
being
under
staff
that
we're
trying
to
overcome
as
well.
So
I
think
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
hear
that
and
I
I
definitely
hear
in
all
the
contacts
that
we've
been
speaking
about
as
well.
K
As
you
know,
the
the
planning
that
we're
thinking
about
for
emergency
shelter,
just
how
we
can
leverage
our
committees
to
really
help
inform
the
process,
help
help
improve
the
process,
help
provide
policy,
guidance
and
support
actions
that
we
take
to
council.
K
I
mean,
I
think
I've
heard
all
of
that
just
in
the
context
of
this
short
meeting
that
I've
been
here,
and
so
I
think
I
think
I'm
like
I
said,
I'm
excited
about
participating
on
a
more
robust
basis
with
all
of
our
committees
and
really
helping
to
see
how
we
can
truly
function
and,
if
meeting
regularly
is
part
of
that.
I
think
that's
something
that
we'll
all
want
to
consider,
but
I'm
also
hearing
other
things.
K
So
I
think
I
think
I'm
going
to
continue
to
listen
to
staff
and
this
committee
on
on
how
we
can
make
improvements
going
forward.
K
So
if,
if
it's
okay,
I
think,
let's
plan
on
I'll
I'll,
be
there
here
at
the
next
meeting
and
we
can
kind
of
continue
this
dialogue
in
terms
of
how
does
how
does
mission
and
and
frequency
of
meetings
like
how
does
all
that
really
function
together
for
for
them,
for
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
with
the
committee
relationships
and
and
how
it
informs
council
policy.
So
I'm
ready.