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A
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we
are
live.
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It
doesn't
hasn't,
come
up
on
youtube.
D
D
Members
shall
be
residents
of
the
city
or
the
city's
extraterritorial
zoning
jurisdiction
and
shall
reflect
the
socio-economic
diversity
of
asheville.
The
term
of
office
is
three
years.
The
committee
was
established
to
advise
the
city
council
on
neighborhoods
within
the
city
of
asheville's
zoning
and
planning
jurisdiction.
D
D
I
will
now
go
through
and
introduce
all
the
committee
members
and
staff
who
are
participating
virtually
please
make
sure
to
mute
your
microphone
if
you
are
not
speaking
and
when
you
have
a
question
or
would
like
to
speak,
click
raise
your
hand
or
click
the
raise
hand
icon
and
when
recognized
unmute.
Your
microphone,
please
remember
to
mute
your
phone
after
you're
done
speaking
and
committee
members,
as
I
call
your
name,
please
say
a
quick
hello
and
also
note
whether
you're
serving
at
large
or
according
to
a
specific
zip
code.
D
C
D
Thank
you,
greta
bush
is
not
in
attendance
tonight.
I
believe
sharon
sumrall
is
not
here
yet
either
joe
fioccolo.
D
Thanks
everyone,
I'm
glad
we
are
able
to
make
it
tonight
and
we
have
quorum.
Additionally,
we
have
max
city
council
liaison
kimroni,
so
kim
I'll.
Let
you
introduce
yourself
good.
D
D
All
right
so
to
help
our
audience
follow
along
I'll
state,
each
section
of
our
agenda
aloud
and
you
know
just
a
reminder
again
to
committee
members
to
click
the
raise
hand
icon
and
to
be
recognized
to
speak,
and
then
please
state
your
name
each
time.
D
So
we'll
begin
today
with
the
approval
of
minutes
for
both
our
february
22nd
2021
meeting
and
then
our
april
26
2021
meeting
so
I'll
go
ahead
and
start
with
our
february
22nd
meeting.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
everyone
has
had
the
opportunity
to
read
through
those
minutes.
You
should
have
the
draft
went
out
long
time
ago,
and
I
do
need
a
motion
on
this
one.
For
approval
of
these.
D
D
Thanks
michael,
do
we
have
a
second.
A
D
What
that
was
babette?
Okay,
we
have
a
motion
by
michael
and
then
a
second
by
babette
all
right
now
I
will
go
down
the
list
of
everyone
and
so
that
we
can
take
a
vote.
Sorry
just
give
me
a
second
here.
D
All
right,
anna
sexton
go
ahead
and
said,
say
I
bob
mays
peter
abzug.
A
G
D
All
right
motion
carries
unanimously,
we'll
move
on
to
our
minutes
from
our
april
26
meeting
slash
work
session
so
once
you
all
feel
so
moved.
I
do
need
a
motion
in
a
second
for
that
as
well.
D
All
right
we've
got
peter
with
a
second
on
the
list.
Again:
anna
sexton,
I
bob
mays
aye
peter
abzug,.
A
A
D
Mike
wasmer
hi
and
wendy
hayner
hi
great
thanks.
Everyone
I'll
just
quickly
go
ahead
and
review
today's
agenda.
No
motion
is
needed,
but
we'll
just
go
over
quickly.
What
we
have
on
our
agenda
for
folks,
listening
in
so.
D
Today,
we'll
receive
staff
updates
from
brendan
mills,
we'll
acknowledge
public
comment,
we'll
discuss
unfinished
business
pertaining
to
our
fiscal
year,
22
work
plan
and
then
also
board
and
committee
vacancies
for
the
remainder
of
2021
and
then
on.
Under
new
business.
We've
got
our
knack:
bylaw
revision
working
group
update
our
neighborhood
hero
working
group,
update
and
then
discussion
sort
of
open
discussion
regarding
how
to
move
forward
with
planning
for
neighborhood
festival
or
conference
or
issues
forum,
we'll
also
receive
mac.
D
Member
updates
for
some
members
who
serve
on
other
boards,
including
the
open
space
task
force
and
the
multimodal
transportation
commission
and
then
we'll
also
discuss
agenda
items
for
our
next
meeting
or
future
meetings.
D
So
with
that
moving
on
to
acknowledging
public
comment,
sorry,
there
we
go
I'm
operating
with
a
lot
of
windows
on
one
small
screen.
We
did
not
receive
any
voicemails
or
email
through
public
input,
dot
com
for
public
comment
for
this
meeting,
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
move
on
to
our
next
item,
which
is
staff
activity,
staff
activities
and
updates
from
brenda
mills.
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
I'm
gonna
be
pretty
quick.
One
of
the
things
I
want
to
highlight
for
knack
is
that
a
couple
of
pivotal
things
are
happening
tomorrow,
night
at
city
council,
beginning
at
5
p.m.
B
The
city
manager
will
present
her
proposed
budget
for
fy22,
and
then
there
will
be
a
public
hearing
in
the
next
two
weeks.
The
second
week
in
tuesday
in
june
june
9th
will
be
the
public
hearing,
and
then
there
will
be
a
vote
at
the
end
of
june
for
the
budget.
B
I
would
ask
you
to
and
I'll
and
I'll
send
it
out
tomorrow.
Maybe
when
I
follow
up
on
this
meeting,
there
is
a
summary
of
the
budget.
While
there
isn't
a
lot
of
new
stuff,
it's
been
proposed
that
we
have
funding
to
do
neighborhood
grants.
So
I'm
really
excited
about
that
yeah
it.
It's
amazing
what
a
little
bit
of
money
can
do
in
a
neighborhood,
so
I'm
really
excited,
and
I
think
we
got
a
little
bit
more
than
what
we
had.
B
You
know
thought
so
we'll
see
how
it
all
ends
up,
but
really
excited
about
that.
But
that's
all
in
that
summary
and
I'll
send
that
to
you
ben
can
coalition
ashford
neighborhoods
has
been
writing
some
recommendations
on
how
to
do
better,
neighborhood
meetings
for
development,
and
so
we
met
with
them.
B
Neighborhood
services,
development
services,
chris
collins
and
planning
all
met
with,
can
to
kind
of
start.
Having
some
discussion
around
that
development
services
was
already
working
on
it,
we're
looking
at
giving
developers
a
standard
for
how
they
should
have
meetings
and
what
we
need
from
those
meetings
to
kind
of
really
be
as
transparent.
You
know,
as
possible,
we've
had
a
couple:
we've
had
at
least
one
project
that
I've
been
involved
in
that
we
thought
was
one
thing
and
it
ended
up
being
another.
B
Well,
then
we
made
them
go
back
out
to
the
community
to
really
talk
to
them
about
what
is
the
project
and
that's
some
of
the
stuff
that
we
were
really
kind
of
trying
to
address
I'll.
Send
you
a
link
to
simple
city.
Please
start,
you
know
just
go
in
and
kind
of
play
with
it,
that's
where
they
can
voluntarily
put
their
neighborhood
meetings
on
a
calendar,
so
we're
looking
going
forward,
making
that
mandatory
street
renaming
we're
gonna
do
very
informal.
B
I'm
gonna
hit
this
kind
of
three
ways:
we're
gonna
hit
it
informally
with
the
african-american
community.
We
are
talking
with
our
boards
and
commissions,
specifically
african-american
heritage
commission,
who
has
given
us
their
opinion
on.
You
know
the
whole
idea
of
street
renaming
and
then
number
three
we're
going
to
do
some
polling
on
next
door,
which
I
think
will
be
really
cool.
We've
not
done
that
before.
So
that
will
hit
all
of
our
asheville
areas
and
then
there's
a
survey
that
will
that
will
kick
off
on
wednesday.
So
I'll.
B
Send
that
to
you
as
well
so
you'll
have
that
it
is
two
little
questions
and
some
demographics.
So
hopefully
we
can
get
a
lot
of
participation
around
that
and
then
the
reparation
sessions
begin
june
3rd.
They
will
be
in
person
at
the
thomas
wolfe
theater.
I
will
send
you
that
information-
and
I
am,
I
think
I
heard
they're
gonna-
be
hybrid,
but
for
right
now
all
that
information
will
be
on
the
project
page
that
I
listed
there.
B
I
want
to
commend
jeremy.
He
has
just
jumped
in
both
hands
both
feet.
Everything
really
kind
of
helping
be
an
additional
arm
to
what
we're
doing
in
community
and
oriented
problem
solving,
and
we
have
lots
of
problems,
and
I
always
tell
people-
maybe
trash,
isn't
your
problem,
but
it
wasn't
iguana.
So
jeremy
went
over
and
helped
in
iwana,
which
is
kim's
neighborhood,
and
then
we
we've
had
some
he's
done.
Some
really
tremendous
work
in
our
housing
areas.
B
We're
really
trying
to
get
them
to
do
the
plan
on
a
page
to
really
kind
of
document
what
they
want
to
do
in
their
housing
areas.
He's
been
working
with
the
staff
from
sanitation
city
manager's
office,
our
community
development
office,
apd
community
liaison
on
the
homelessness
relocation,
because
you
know
there
was
a
couple
of
weeks
ago.
We
had
a
really
cold
back
cold
snap,
so
trying
to
get
those
people
relocated
really
has
learned
a
lot
on
the
ground.
B
B
It
was
really
difficult
for
kids,
especially
so
he's
working
with
some
multiple
groups
to
kind
of
put
together
some
stuff
that
working
with
parks
and
rec
and
some
community
groups
to
kind
of
help
with
some
of
that,
and
then
that's
it
for
me.
Unless
there's
some
questions,
I
am
all
done.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
attention.
D
Thanks
brenda,
I
do
actually
have
a
question:
do
do
y'all
have
any
idea
what
the
neighborhood
grants
might
look
like
at
this
point,
or
is
it
just
sort
of
in
the
stage
of
we're
hoping
to
get
money
for
this
and
then
we'll
start
developing
sort
of
the
process
and.
B
We've
had
different
discussions
prior
to
the
lockdown
myself
dawa
and
I'm
trying
to
I'm.
I'm
sorry
2020
took
my
memory,
I'm
sorry,
but
it's
looking
like
what
they
basically
do
for
tipping
point,
so
we're
not
really
sure
the
size
of
the
grant,
we're
thinking
five
thousand
dollars
tipping
point
grants
are
excellent.
This
is
the
fifth
year
I've
I've
served
on
that
committee
for
four
years,
but
ours
will
be
a
little
bit
different.
B
Tipping
point
is
for
and
it's
like
it
stated
it
tips
the
the
scale
on
a
little
grassroots
project.
We
are
looking
at
awarding
neighborhoods
funding
to
help
with
neighborhood
stuff.
We
you
know
burton
street
needs
a
pattern
book,
some
more
funding
for
that
they
are
looking
at
a
sign
for
their
community.
B
You
know,
east
end
has
been
working
on
a
pantry,
I
mean
each
neighborhood
has
has
some
different
things
that
they
are
doing,
but
we
have
not
written
up
anything
as
soon
as
we
jeremy
and
I
are
going
to
start
working
on
that
in
the
next
few
weeks
and
we'll
be
bringing
it
to
neighborhood
factory
for
you
to
take
a
look
at
it.
Okay,
that's
awesome!
That's
a
great
question.
D
Thank
you.
I
think
I
saw
that
joe
raised
his
hand,
so
joe.
E
Yeah,
I
had
a
question:
when
do
when
does
it
look
like
we'll
be
going
back
to
live
in
person
meetings.
B
So
I'm
thinking
city
council
will
begin
sometime
in
june
and
I
haven't
heard
about
boys
and
commissions.
I
will
let
you
know
that
as
soon
as
I
know.
D
Just
still
taking
it,
I
think,
week
by
week,
so
I
do
know
that
we
are
looking
to
take
live
public
comment
at
our
june
meeting,
but
we'll
talk
about
that
in
a
little
bit.
So
thanks
brenda
all
right.
Let
me
see
where
we
are
now
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
jump
into
our
unfinished
business
this
evening,
which
is
reviewing
and
approving,
if
we're
ready
to
do
that.
D
The
draft
work
plan
for
fiscal
year
2022,
and
that
was
a
document
that
was
provided
in
our
meeting
packets
and
this
document
is
goals
that
and
brenda
feel
free
to
jump
in
if
you
have
anything
to
add
that
were
put
together
based
on
our
meeting
minutes
from
april
and
looking
at
the
various
really
topics
that
we
covered
at
that
point.
So
I
guess
we
just
go
ahead
and
open
the
floor
now
to
see
see
if
anyone
has
any
questions
or
comments.
G
Are
you
anna
referring
to
the
community
committee
goals
for
2122.
B
This
was
a
draft.
I
just
all
the
notes
that
joe
took,
and
so
if,
if
you
would
take
a
few
minutes
just
to
read,
it
make
sure
I've
reached
I've
stated
things
as
you
want
it
to
be:
you're,
not
it's.
It's
not
like
it's
etched
in
stone
thing,
because
it
should
be
a
living
document.
So
if
you
decide
to
change
something
later,
it's
okay,
but
if
you
could
just
take
a
look
at
it,
let
me
know
I've
hit
the
right
spots.
That
would
be
great.
D
We're
glad
you're
here
so
we're
just
opening
it
up
for
discussion
and
questions.
B
D
D
Thank
you
go
ahead.
E
Yeah
the
first
two
items
on
this
list
are
things
that
are
happening
in
the
current
year
and
not
in
the
2122
calendar
year.
Also,
the
bylaws
call
for
us
to
to
have
an
annual
report
approved
at
the
august
meeting.
So
there's
really
no
urgency
to
get
one
done
today
unless
it's
to
get
done
for
the
2021
year,
which
we're
finishing
in
the
next
meeting.
D
So
these
are
the
sorry.
These
are
the
the
goals
for
the
fiscal
year.
2022
work
plan,
as
I
understand
it,
so.
E
E
That
is
the
exact
text
that
is
in
the
original
founding
documents
from
city
council
and
should
be
under
the
bylaws,
and
we
covered
that
in
the
bylaws.
So
that
needs
to
be
moved
up.
B
B
D
I
have
a
quick
question
just
for
clarification
under
the
look
at
knack's
representation
by
zip
codes.
The
last
bullet
point
I'm
saying
a
draft
will
be
provided
at
upcoming
meetings
for
next
discussion.
Does
that
mean
a
draft
of
this
entire
document
or
a
draft
of
any
sort
of
amendments
to
potential
representation
of
knack?
I
actually.
B
D
No,
that's,
okay.
I
I
feel
fine
taking
that.
D
Out,
does
anyone
have
any
any
other
comments
or
questions
about
this.
E
In
the
past,
when
we've
done
work
plans,
we've
put
we've
articulated
what
the
goal
was
and
how
the
action
steps
would
achieve
that
goal,
which
would
help
us
in
benchmarking.
I
don't
see
the
goals
on
this
document.
E
And
last,
at
the
last
meeting,
we
didn't
have
time
to
go
over
a
draft
work
plan
that
I
laid
out
not
that
I'm
precious
about
that.
The
information
on
that.
But
it's
a
checklist
that
we
can
approve
or
disapprove
or
edit,
as
as
we
please.
But
it
was
in
that
format
with
stating
what
the
goal
is
and
then
what
the
steps
are
we're
taking
this
year
to
as
a
work
plan
to
achieve
them.
B
Joe
I
misunderstood
what
that
document
was,
because
I
think
about
it
before:
did
you
send
it
right
before
we
had
the
retreat
right.
E
Yeah,
it
was
included
in
our
documents
for
the
last
meeting,
but
we
didn't
have
time
to
go
over
it
because
the
retreat
went
on
so
long
because
of
the
presentation
from
planning.
B
E
I
move
the
t
to
table
this
this
approving
of
this
plan
until
the
next
meeting,
so
that
we
have
time
to
go
over
in
detail
and
and
get
a
good
copy
of
it.
D
Yeah,
it
sounds
like
I
think,
what
you
captured
today
or
in
this
document
was
pretty
comprehensive,
based
on
the
meeting
minutes
from
the
month
of
april,
but
also
since
we
did
not
really
acknowledge
some
of
the
the
thoughts
and
ideas
in
joe's
document
that
he
sent
out.
Maybe
we
can
take
an
opportunity
to
merge
some
of
that
together.
B
For
and
I
just
want
to
encourage
every
member,
if
you
see
some
slight
or
something
forgotten,
please
go
ahead
and
say
something
early
because
we'll
definitely
you
know
that's
why
your
stuff
is
sent
out
as
soon
as
we
can.
D
G
E
It
was
from
the
previous
time
there
is
one
more
thing
on
the
on
that
document:
the
next
to
last
item
issues,
forum
on
noise
and
on
traffic.
We've
already
done
so
we'll
need
to
change
those
topics
to
different
issues.
If
they're
going
to
be
considered
for
issues,
forums.
B
Got
it
so
I
reword
that
what
I
did
in
putting
that
in
there
because
we
have
new
members,
most
of
them
were
not
there
when
we
did
these
issues
forms
so
I'll
reword
that
to
say,
example
of
ish
prior
issue
forms
yeah.
That's
what
I
intended
to
do.
Thank
you,
joe
okay,.
D
All
right
last
call
for
questions
or
comments
on
the
draft
goals
for
fiscal
year
2022.
Before
moving
on
all
right,
I
don't
see
any
other
hands
raised,
so
we
will
now
move
on
to.
D
The
board
and
committee
vacancies
for
2021
and
sorry,
let
me
pull
up
my
information
here.
So
applications
are
due
for
the
various
boards
and
committee
vacancies
on
may
31st.
D
I
know
mike,
we
are
your
term
is
set
to
expire
in
on
july
1st,
however,
you
are
eligible
for
a
reappointment
and
that
I
do
believe
you.
You
gave
confirmation
of
interest
in
wanting
to
do
that
back
at
the
february
meeting,
but
just
want
to
double
check
one
more
time,
because
apparently
I
need
to
explicitly
email
the
city
to
to
say
that
that's
the
case.
F
D
Great
we'll
do,
I
will
take
care
of
that
then
pastor,
hardaway
and
joe
fioccola
are
not
eligible
for
reappointment
and
we
will
certainly
miss
the
the
service
and
the
institutional
knowledge
brought
by
both
members.
So
with
that
said,
we
should
be
receiving
applications
around
this.
I
think,
first
or
second
week
in
june,
for
whoever
has
submitted
application
to
knack
and
then
we
can
go
ahead
and
hopefully
have
things
lined
up
for
our
june
meeting
to
make
new
appointments.
D
And
so
again
you
know
please
share
with
your
networks
that
we
will
have
two
vacancies,
one
for
the
two,
eight
eight
zero
one
zip
code
and
one
for
the
two.
Eight
eight
zero,
three
zip
code.
So
thank
you
joe
and
pastor
hardaway
for
your
service
and
we
look
forward
to
one
more
meeting
with
you,
both
at
our
june
meeting.
E
Yes,
the
bylaws
and
the
initial
documentation
says
that
the
members
shall
be
residents
of
the
city
or
the
city's
extraterritorial
zoning
jurisdiction
and
shall
reflect
the
socio-economic
diversity
of
asheville.
I
don't
know
if
we
want
to
continue
that
in
our
bylaws.
E
We,
I
don't
think
we
ever
evaluate
people's
socioeconomic
background
in
making
these
appointments
or
recommendations,
and
I'm
also
not
sure
that
the
socioeconomic
diversity
jibes
with
the
equity
focused
lens
that
we're
looking
at
everything
through
now.
So
I'm
I
I
raise
a
question
on
that
point,
but
at
which
should
come
up
in
when
these
appointments
are
being
made
and
and
talked
about.
So
it's
an
issue,
I'm
raising,
I
I
don't
expect
an
answer,
but
it
it's
something
that
needs
to
be
addressed.
I
think.
D
Do
we
want
to
go
ahead
and
segue
into
the
new
business
where
we're
talking
about
knack
by
law
revisions
and
go
over
the
the
document
that
was
put
together
with
the
deletions
and
suggestions
based
on
the
working
group,
but
also
bring
up
that
point
that
you
just
raised
as
well
joe.
E
D
Okay,
great
so,
let's
go
ahead
and
move
into
our
new
business
and
I
will
go
ahead
and
turn
it
over
to
the
knack
bylaw
revision,
cooking
group
and
that
was
composed
of
bobbette
mays,
joe
fioccola,
pastor,
spencer,
hardaway
and
peter
abzug.
So
turning
it
over
to
you
all
for
an
update.
E
E
Number
13
is
under
section
2
article
4
meeting
section
2
annual
meeting.
It
says
the
annual
meeting
of
the
national,
the
regular
meeting
of
the
next
that
occurs
in
august
or
the
first
meeting
thereafter
at
annual
meetings.
In
addition
to
regular
business
of
knack
officers,
shall
be
elected
and
should
include
setting
the
meeting
schedule
and
annual
work
plan.
I've
got
it
written
as
final
work
plan,
but
I
think
annual
is
more
accurate
for
that
one.
E
The
reason
for
that
is
that
there
is
other
required
business
at
the
annual
meeting
than
just
electing
officers,
which
was
in
the
previous,
the
previous
version
of
those
minutes,
and
we
can
should
consider
moving
up
from
august
to
july.
E
I
I
would
accept
changes
on
on
that
or
discussion
on
that.
I
would
also
suggest
a
semi-annual
report
be
produced
after
the
first
six
months
of
the
year
because
of
the
change
in
personnel.
That's
when
personnel
changes,
new
people,
three
people
rotate
off
and
three
people
rotate
on
on
july,
1st,
so
it'd
be
easier
to
get
all
that
information
in
a
single
ver
in
a
half
year
report
and
addend
it
to
the
annual
report.
In
january,
the
number
16
is
see
it's
article
4,
section
7
order
of
business.
E
It
states
that
all
business
and
matters
before
the
next
shall
be
transacted
in
conformance
with
robert's
rules
of
order.
Newly
revised
I've
added
some
deliberations
may
be
better
served
by
other
consensus
models
at
the
discretion
of
the
chair
and
consider
that
a
parliamentarian
may
be
needed
if
we
stick
with
robert's
rules
of
orders.
E
The
only
other
thing
that
I
that
bothered
me
personally
about
this,
but
from
2013
when
I
joined
this
committee,
was
that
the
founding
documents
say
in
quotes
that
the
name
of
the
organization
shall
be
quote:
ashf
the
asheville
neighborhood
advisory
committee.
Now
the
initials
of
that
are
anac,
but
in
our
bylaws
it
became
knack.
Now
it's
just
a
little
stickler
for
me.
However,
I
found
that
in
the
second
document
13-57
we
are
referred
to
as
neighborhood
advisory
committee
and
not
asheville
neighborhood
advisory
committee.
E
So
I'm
I
feel
better
about
changing
our
bylaws
to
say
the
name
of
the
organization
shall
be
asheville's
neighborhood
advisory
committee,
and
that
clears
up
the
stickler
in
me
for
for
getting
things
pitch
perfect.
Also
in
article
one
section
two,
I
changed
the
name
to
membership.
E
The
next
shell
consists
of
nine
members
appointed
by
the
city
council
with
representations
from
specific
community
sectors
that
follows,
and
then
it
lists
the
different
zip
code.
The
s
was
left
off
of
representations,
implying
that
these
people
represent
these
zip
codes.
Now
I've
been
looking
at
the
zip
codes.
I've
been
looking
at
the
map,
the
28801,
which
has
been
characterized
as
the
central
district,
really
extends
from
wt
river
boulevard,
all
the
way
down
to
meadow
road.
All
of
that
is
in
28801,
and
it's
not
just
central.
E
There
are
almost
18
different
neighborhoods
in
that
zip
code,
whereas
the
north
28804
has
about
eight.
The
east
2885
has
about
eight,
the
south,
which
includes
kendall
worth
and
biltmore
village.
All
the
way
down
to
the
airport
has
about
18
as
well
and
west.
Has,
I
think,
about
12..
So
it's
well.
E
So
if
we're
going
to
be
signing
representatives
of
zip
codes,
we
need
to
be
aware
of
where
those
zip
codes
are,
and
not
just
assume
that
that
they
follow,
say
the
police
districts,
north,
south
east
west
and
central,
the
the
in
the
work
plan
that
we
just
tabled,
where
it
says,
consider
article
2,
section,
1
purpose,
and
it
should
include
more
than
just
advise
city
council
on
neighborhoods.
That
is
the
exact
text
of
the
original
founding
documentation.
E
It
says
that
we
shall
that
they
shall
advise
city
council
on
neighborhoods.
It
doesn't
include
anything
else,
so
that
really
frees
us
to
expand
our
our
tasks
and
our
mission
to
anything
that
inclu
is
included
in
there
and
not
be
limited
by
education
and
whatever
the
other
things
were,
communication
helping
all
of
those
do
fall
into
advising
on
neighborhoods.
G
Yes,
I'd
like
to
ask
joe
a
question:
please
joe,
is
it
possible
that
the
members
that
we
have
that
are
at
large
be
helpful
or
assigned
one
of
those
zip
codes
and
has
so
many
neighborhoods
in
it
like
28801
or
south,
that
they
can
help
start
new
neighborhoods
committees,
and
that
way
they
would
be
a
set
of
just
in
a
quandary
as
to
where
to
go?
They
would
be
helpful
in
those
zip
codes.
E
I
would
suggest
that
that's
something
that
can
happen
in
a
work
plan
when
you
decide
who's
doing
what
task
you
know.
E
We
don't
really
assign
well
the
the
the
chair
and
vice
chair
are
elected,
so
the
at-large
members
can
be
assigned
at
a
later
date.
I
don't
know
that.
There's
a
strong
reason
for
including
them
in
this.
C
Wanted
to
respond
to
wendy
in
the
south,
2803
and
2870.
I
think
it's
zero,
four
that
pastor
hardaway
has
and
I'm
an
at
large
member,
but
I
live
in
shiloh,
so
we
are
gathering.
So
I
do
talk
to
the
people
in
oakley,
so
that
is
we
do
work
together.
I
think
that
maybe
the
people
that
are
at
large,
if
they
would
kind
of
work
in
some
parts
of
their
neighborhood
or
right
outside
their
neighborhood
instead
of
having
to
assign
them.
I
just
I
just
think
that
was
that's
more.
C
You
know,
because
we
do
we
reach
out
further
than
whatever
he
does
with
twitter
three,
how
that
spectrum
we
just
haven't
reached
out.
Maybe
we
need
more
for
kendall
work.
We
haven't
done
that,
but
we
stretch
out
and
we
were
trying
to
move
into
the
art
in
the
art
area.
So
we
that's
just
because
I'm
at
large.
G
B
I'm
unmuted,
what
I
was
going
to
say
is
your
zip
codes
and
your
representation
can
only
be
changed
by
city
council.
That
was
a
council
resolution.
So
if
you
decide
that
you
want
to
do
something
different,
you
know
we
certainly
can
do
that.
We
just
need
to
take
it
back
to
city
council
and
it
was
pretty
you
know
over
the
years.
I'm
sure
it's
ebbed
and
flowed,
but
it
took
us
what
two
or
two
tries
to
find
someone
in
wendy's
2804,
zip
code.
B
D
Brenda,
I
think
you
make
a
great
point
about
that
at
large
members
and
I
I
agree
with
the
edits
to
item
number
two
and
also
being
being
a
stickler
just
saying:
shelby
asheville's
neighborhood
advisory
committee,
but
then
moving
on
to
number
three,
I'm
I'm
comfortable
with
changing
representation
to
membership
and
leaving
it,
as
is
under
number
four.
D
D
Shall
is
pretty
shallow
is
very
different
than
should,
and
I'm
wondering
maybe
one
amendment
that
I
could
offer
is
you
know,
cutting
off
the
sentence
after
extra
extra
territorial
zoning
jurisdiction
and
then
something
I
just
jotted
down,
and
I'm
open
to
comments
is
when
making
recommendations
for
appointments.
Nak
should
consider
how
new
membership
promotes
socioeconomic
diversity.
E
I
have
to
jump
in
there
and
say
that
that
shall
reflect
socioeconomic
diversity
of
asheville.
Is
the
exact
text
of
the
resolution
that
founded
us
so
that
again
would
have
to
go
to
city
council
for
approval
for
a
change.
D
And
this
is
anna
again
joe,
because
you've
been
doing
a
deep
dive
into
this,
and
you
maybe
have
already
gone
over
this,
but
I've
been
making
notes
and
reviewing
while
you're
talking.
Are
there
any
other
items
in
this
document
moving
forward?
That
would
have
require
a
new
resolution
from
city
council.
If
we
wanted
to
make
changes.
E
None
that
I'm
aware
of,
I
did
include
a
sick
under
powers
and
duties.
Article
two
section
two,
I
did
include
number
six,
which
is
help
get
information
out
to
the
neighborhoods
about
the
city's
master
plans,
which
was
in
the
second
document
founding
document
1357,
and
it
never
got
included
in
our
bylaws
or
actually
the
the
bylaws
were
created
just
before
that
was
added
by
city
council
as
another
power
and
duties.
D
I
also
like
that
change.
I
would,
I
think
again
we're
splitting
hairs
here,
but
I
would
say
maybe
the
city's
adopted
plans,
because
there
can
be
adopted
plans
that
aren't
necessarily
master
plans.
I
I
do
are
we:
are
we
going
to
discuss
the
robert's
rules
of
orders,
I'm
I'm
guessing
you're
talking
about
coming
to
consensus
without
actually
doing
it
through.
When
you
said
a
parliamentarian,
I
mean
on
the
open
space,
we're
working
via
consensus,
not
necessarily
robert's
rules
of
orders,
but
I'm
not
sure
what
that
means
to
change.
All
of
that.
E
Well,
the
reason
I
put
that
in
there
is
because
otherwise
everything
has
to
be
done
by
robert's
rules.
All
business
has
to
be
conducted
by
robert's
rules
and
there
are
no
other
options.
So
I
wanted
to
include
the
the
option
for
other
consensus
models,
which
I
mean
in
a
in
a
judiciary
board
or
something
like
that.
You
want
to
be
efficient,
you
want
to
be
respectful
of
everybody's
time
and
the
majority
rules.
Well,
I
think
in
our
case
neighborhoods.
We
want
to
come
to
consensus.
I
That
gets
complicated,
it's
gotten
complicated
in
open
space
and
we're
having
to
go
back
and
rehash
out,
because
we
were
not
all
sure
what
our
consensus
was
and
so
now
we're
going
to
have
to
go
vote.
I
understand
only
now.
I
Do
I
understand
what
you're
talking
about
having
gone
through
this
at
open
space,
and
so
I
understand
what
you're
saying
but
and
the
same
a
sense
of
brevity
and
what
we
all
understand,
I'm
all
for
keeping
robert's
rules
of
order
and
hashing
it
out
when
we
have
that
issue
come
up,
that's
my
opinion
totally,
but
I
get
it.
I
would
not
have
if
I
hadn't
been
on
open
space
and
we
had
this
discussion,
but
but
I
understand
it
thanks.
D
Jaren
I
heard
the
bell
from
babette
I
did
see
mike.
Do
you
want
to
jump
in
real
quick
with?
I
saw
your
hand
raised.
F
Yeah
mike
wasmer
here
I
I
guess
I
was
just
wondering
in
reference
to
the
social
economic
diversity-
that's
referenced
in
language,
if
that
was
only
really
a
nod
to
the
notion,
because
that's
the
only
time
I've
heard
it
come
up,
is
that
a
diversity
of
people
who
are
renters
and
homeowners
both
and
that
that
was
the
one
of
the
key
reasons
for
that.
D
F
D
D
I
also
agree
with
sharon
that
I
I
would
prefer
to
not
get
into
the
ball
of
wax
in
undoing
robert's
rules.
In
this
I
don't
know,
I
guess,
looking
to
you
all.
It
sounds
like
we
do.
We
want
to
continue
and
discuss
finish
discussing
this
at
the
next
meeting
to
make
a
motion
on
a
final
draft
at
that
point,
or
do
we
want
to
over
go
or
go
over
time
for
a
few
minutes
and
finish
this
up?
When
do
you
go
ahead?
I.
G
Would
like
to
make
a
motion
that
we
table
this
and
have
an
opportunity
to
go
back
after
revisions
and
look
at
it
one
more
time
before
a
final
vote.
E
I
would
prefer
to
call
the
question,
but
I
don't
think
it's
it's
it's
appropriate
to
do
that,
while
there's
another
motion
waiting
for
a
second.
D
Okay,
I
do,
I
also
understand
wanting
to
get
something
squared
away
and
finalized.
I
do
think
that
if
there
needs
to
be
more
time
to
review
and
consider
some
of
the
discussion
items
that
came
up
today,
it's
okay
to
move
it
to
our
june
meeting.
D
I
would
just
strongly
encourage
folks
to
to
read,
through
things
when
we're
getting
our
meeting
agenda
packets
from
brenda
and
making
notes
in
advance
so
that
we
can
come
to
our
meetings
with
discussion,
points
and
questions
and
comments
so
that
we
can
sort
of
streamline
the
process
as
much
as
possible,
but
brenda
and
and
joe
too,
if
you're,
okay
with
it
just
tabling
it
to
the
next
meeting
and
hopefully
we'll
have
we'll-
have
a
final
version
to
approve
and
adopt
in
june.
E
B
Yes,
this
is
brendan
mills.
What
we
need
to
do
is
we
need
to
have
a
document.
That's
typed
out
with
any
kind
of
highlighted
changes,
it's
just
easier
to
read
so
joe.
Do
you
want
to
take
a
stab
at
it,
or
would
you
like
me
to
take
a
stab
at
it.
E
I
can
produce
a
document
with
the
highlighted
page,
which
I
did
the
one
the
one
is
in
there
has
all
the
deletions
and
suggested
changes
and
explanations.
B
So
we
would
type
up
a
document.
Basically
it
would
be
typed
up
you're
going
to
always
have
joe's
document,
which
shows
you
where
he's
made
his
deletions,
but
if
you
accept
all
these
so
say
for
this
example,
you
accept
all
these.
What
does
that
document
look
like,
so
that
you
can
read
it,
so
I
think
people
kind
of
need
both
right
so
joe,
do
you
want
to
take
a
stab
at
it,
since
you
did
a
lot
of
the
deep
dive
into
this.
D
Great,
thank
you
joe.
I
do
think
yeah
that'll
be
helpful
to
sort
of
see
them
side
by
side
and
also
compare
with
what's
existing
and
not
marked
up
so
we'll
add
that
to
our
june
agenda
and
we
will
move
on
to
the
neighborhood
hero
working
group,
update,
which
greta's
out
of
town
might
let
us
know
that
the
working
group
has
not
been
able
to
meet
yet.
D
We
will,
however,
schedule
for
this
year
to
honor
the
2019
winner
at
our
upcoming
meeting
in
june,
and
then
it's
also
my
understanding
that
the
process,
the
application
process
for
2020
will
begin
on
july
1st
and
then
we'll
honor
that
person
in
september
and
then
start
the
process
for
2021
november
due
january
2022
and
on
march
2022..
D
E
B
City
council
has
not
been
doing
any
when
you
call
them
proclamations
or
anything
they've
just
been
doing
a
working
meeting,
so
I
had
to
ask
about
that.
It's
not
available
right
now
and
then,
where
we
are
now
in
the
year,
if
they
were
to
go
back
and
in
person
in
june,
it's
not
enough
time.
So
we
talked
about
it
at
the
retreat
that
it'd
be
nice
to
go
ahead
and
honor
that
person
at
this
meeting
this.
B
D
This
is
anna
given
given
the
delay
just
the
inevitable
delay
of
the
past
year
and
and
not
being
able
to
to
move
forward
with
it.
I
would
I'm
fine
with
with
a
june
acknowledgement
at
the
knack
meeting
kim
I
see
your
hands
raised.
Please
go
ahead.
H
I'm
I'm
hearing
some
suggestions
that
we
could
honor
both
members
and
that
there
is
a
desire
to
do
that
in
the
council
meeting
and
I'm
happy
to
carry
that
suggestion
forward
to
the
full
council.
G
Wendy
this
is
wendy
hayner.
I
I
think
that
would
be
wonderful
kim.
If
that
was
a
possibility
to
recognize
this
individual
from
the
city
council,
that's
will
hopefully
bring
other
people
out
of
the
woodwork
to
start
stepping
up
and
doing
more
for
our
city
and
by
recognizing
these
individuals.
Thank
you.
H
B
D
All
right,
so
at
our
april
retreat
we
also
began
talking
about
the
neighborhood
festival
or
conference
or
issues
forum
or
all
of
the
above
and
how
we
want
to
move
forward
coming
out
of
the
past
year,
and
so
we
had
to
table
that
discussion
and
want
to
bring
that
discussion
back
alive
and
talk
about
what
you
all
feel
is
the
best
sort
of
path
forward
for
for
scheduling
or
getting
something
on
the
books.
D
G
Please
go
ahead.
Thank
you
very
much.
Anna.
This
is
wendy
hayner.
I
would
like
to
talk
about
the
neighborhood
festival
conference
and
and
look
at
our
timeline
to
see
when
we
would
be
able
to
put
this
together.
We
talked
about
the
martin
luther
king
park,
and
that
would
be
the
location
as
to
where
it
was
going
to
be
the
previous
year.
G
I
believe
it
was
2019
that
they
had
planned
on
an
event
there,
how
long
and
the
person
that
was
in
charge
of
that
at
the
time
I
believe,
was
bobette
and
she
was
working
hard
on
it
along
with
greta.
So
I
was
wanting
to
know
how
long
do
you
think
you
need
to
be
able
to
put
this
neighborhood
festival
into
action
and
make
it
happen.
C
You're
asking
me
about
it,
it
was
it's
me
pastor,
hardaway.
I
don't
think
greta
was
on
that
me
pastor,
hart
away
pat
from
givens
estate.
We
would
first
have
to
get
clearance
from
the
city
about
using
martin
luther
king
jr
park.
C
That
was
what
brenda
was
talking
about.
That's
the
first
thing.
We
would
have
to
do
everything
else
we
had
already
set
up,
and
I
think
that
brenda
from
that
mistake
and
brenda
we
had
everything
set
up
except
we
just
didn't
get
to
do
it.
Am
I
correct.
B
We
were
almost
there,
we
weren't
quite
there,
but
we
I
mean,
but
we
had
plenty
of
time
because
we
were
looking
at
spring
2020
right
yeah.
We
were
working
the
entire
year
yeah
we
had
four
or
five
months
to
get
stuff
together.
I
would
suggest
I
just
don't
know
about
gatherings
right
now
for
2021,
so
I'm
thinking
because
we're
just
trying
to
get
ourselves
back.
B
You
know
into
a
normal
routine
that
maybe
we
shoot
for
spring
of
2022.,
okay
right
and
then
that
gives
you
guys
time
to
go
ahead
and
meet
and
then
bring
it
back
up.
Just
say:
here's
the
proposal
again,
here's
what
we're
thinking
about
doing
and
then,
if
knack,
is
good
and
give
everybody
a
job
and
we
go
for
it
and
basically,
what
had
been
planned
was
to
have
which
used
to
do.
B
I
think
the
initial
one
joe
out
in
a
few
one
of
those
where
neighborhoods
would
set
up
tables
to
kind
of
kind
of
showcase,
their
neighborhood
kind
of
the
history
of
their
neighborhood
and
the
whole
theme
that
year
this
this
year
was
supposed
to
been
get
to
know
your
neighbor.
So
the
goal
would
be
to
walk
around
and
you
know,
get
to
know
the
neighbors
in
the
neighborhood,
the
different
neighborhoods.
So.
I
As
the
net
sorry
as
sharon
here
as
an
fyi,
I'm
on
easton
valley,
neighborhood
association-
we
just
had
our
meeting
about
eight
days
ago
and
there
was
a
organization
that
was
wanting
a
juneteenth
at
mlk
and
the
city
approached
our
neighborhood
association
to
help
them
fix.
The
concession
stand
there.
So
the
concession
stand
is
dilapidated
and
not
available
for
any
kind
of
use
at
this
point,
and
so
we're
still
in
negotiation
with
the
city
and
easton
valley
to
try
to
get
mlk
into
usability.
I
So
if
we
were
wanting
to
use
it,
there's
nothing
available
for
food
or
anything
else
that
the
city
has
got
because
of
the
dilapidated
mess
that
the
concession
stand
is
in.
So
if
that
was
at
all
what
something
we
wanted
to
do,
it's
not
available
jelly
gets
fixed.
So
I
concur
with
brenda
that
it's
going
to
take
a
while
to
get
that
all
organized
and
make
that
park
worth
having
something
there.
If
we
want
to
do
it
with
food
and
drinks
and
as
we
normally
do
with
things
at
mlk.
G
D
B
C
Well,
I
had
my
hand
raised.
I
was
just
gonna
say
that
we
were.
We
were
gonna,
do
things
like
different
food
trucks,
and
that
was
what
we're
gonna
do
as
far
as
and
bring
them
inside
and
people
would
be
able
to
get
that
as
far
as,
and
so
we
wouldn't,
we
were
not
anticipating
using
the
concession
stand,
but
we're
not
going
to
be
ready
till
2022.
C
We
also
had
just
to
give
you
a
little
a
little
bit.
We
also
had
a
connection
with
some
games
and
stuff
for
youth
so
that
they
wouldn't
be
bored.
They
could
be
there
while
their
parents
and
every
and
even
every
organization
having
maybe
like
they
had
mugs
or
someone
could
give
prizes
for
people
that
go
around
to
each
one
or
two
things.
C
So
you
know
that
that
kind
of
thing
that
we
were
so
you
could
showcase
exactly
what
you
do
in
all
of
your
neighborhoods,
because
that's
what
we're
talking
about
get
to
know
your
neighbor,
and
so
I
think
that's
what
was
in
the
works,
and
we
and
brenda
can
give
you
that
you
know
so
you'll
see
it.
D
Thanks
bobbitt,
this
is
anna.
It
sounds
like
what
I'm
hearing
from
from
folks
is
that,
yes,
we
want
to
go
ahead
and
try
to
plan
another
festival
of
neighborhoods.
D
It's
probably
not
realistic
to
do
so
in
person
until
potentially
this
time
next
year
in
2022,
but
in
order
to
kind
of
focus
some
of
the
energy
and
ideas.
Maybe
it's
an
appropriate
time
to
at
least
consider,
if
not
this
evening
form
a
planning
group
for
that.
Amongst
some
knack
members,
I
think
previously,
like
babette
says
there,
there
were
maybe
three
folks
on
the
festival
and
neighborhoods
planning
committee,
and
so
just
want
to
open
it
up
open
that
up
for
discussion
and
comment
to
see.
B
E
Yeah,
I
think
it's
premature
to
commit
to
that,
since
we
don't
have
a
work
plan
for
the
year
yet
for
the
upcoming
year.
Yet
I
I
would
prefer
waiting
until
we
had
that
plan
in
place,
and
that
was
a
part
of
it.
It
was
integrated
in
with
it.
D
D
I'm
also
just
trying
to
be
mindful
of
meetings
and
if
our
monthly
meeting
schedule
gets
interrupted
to
where
we
potentially
go
back
to
bi-monthly
meetings,
it's
a
pretty
involved
task
to
plan
an
event
like
this.
Well.
B
It's
in
your
work
plan
to
do
something
plan
an
event,
so
you
can
write
it
in
such
a
way
that,
whatever
you
decide
to
do,
you
can
hold
it
you're
going
to
approve
your
work
plan
in
june,
so
I
would
suggest
giving
people
time
to
think
about.
Would
they
like
to
participate
and
then
get
your
committee
formed
in
june
once
you
approve
the
this
work
plan,
but
it
is
in
your
plan.
You
don't
have
to
be
as
specific
and
give
a
specific
date.
It's
in
your
opinion,.
D
Okay,
great
good
deal.
Well,
we
can
continue
the
conversation
then
into
our
june
meeting,
but
if,
if
yeah,
please
consider
thinking
about,
if
you
would
like
to
be
on
a
planning
committee
for
next
year's
festival
of
neighborhoods,
I
do
also
want
to
talk
about
the
issues
forum
that
was
sort
of
lumped
into
to
that
new
business
item
and
and
opening
that
up
to
discussion
as
well.
D
Back
in
summer
of
2019,
we
had
two
one
was
focused
on
traffic,
which
was
a
pretty
a
lot
of
stuff,
ultimately
comes
down
to
traffic,
but
then
one
was
also
focused
on
noise,
because
the
city
was
going
through
amendments
to
its
noise
ordinance.
At
that
time,
we
we
held
those
in
person.
C
D
Thanks
yeah
there's
a
lot
there's
a
lot
to
manage
during
virtual
meetings
anyways.
I
think
that
this
is
something
that,
if
we
wanted
to
do
in
2021,
there's
potential
to
host
it
virtually
and
have
it
be
successful
and
accessible
to
folks,
virtually
so
just
wanted
to
throw
that
out.
There
maybe
get
comments
on
that
and,
like
brenda
said,
maybe
continue
to
discuss
in
june,
but
brenda
go
ahead.
B
Well,
I
was
gonna
say
you
know,
there's
a
lot
being
done
in
the
way
around
development
and
how
neighborhoods
are
communicated.
That's
the
big
issue
right
now
beyond
noise
is
development
and
planning
and
development
services
are
looking
at.
You
know,
training
getting
out
in
the
community
talking
to
people
about
how
they
can
find
out
about
development
working
with
developers
about
you
know,
scheduling
their
meetings.
You
know
on
a
calendar,
so
it
might
be
a
good
thing.
B
Once
some
of
that
stuff
is
in
place,
you
know
to
go
out
you
could
you
know
if
you
get
your
work
approved
in
june?
If
you
want
to
do
it
virtually
so
you
have
presentations
by
different
departments
on
development.
Then
you
can
do
it
virtually
this
late.
This
fall
because
that
doesn't
require
you
to
meet
anywhere
or
be
anywhere.
You
could
just
do
it
there
and
then,
if
you
wanted
to
follow
up
with
something
else
later
in
person,
you
could
so
I
mean
the
sky's
the
limit.
B
I
think
you
have
to
decide
which
issues
you
know
you'd
like
to,
and
you
can
have
a
list
of
them
and
then
just
call
a
meeting.
I
think
that
would
be
great,
it's
a
great
way
to
connect
with
neighborhoods,
for
you
guys
to
kind
of
reach
out
to
your
your
networks
and
things
of
that
nature.
So
I
just
wanted
to
throw
that
out.
There.
D
Thanks
brenda,
I
do
think
finding
a
way
to
focus
in
on
some
sort
of
development
aspect
would
be
something
that's
not
only
helpful
for
folks
to
come
together
and
provide
comment
and
feedback
on,
but
I
think
for
us,
as
a
committee
as
well
to
become,
I
think,
better
versed
in
the
ins
and
outs
of
those
processes
would
be
great.
I'm
not
sure
I
know
quite
yet
what
that
focus
might
look
like.
D
I
do
also
think
that
traffic
is
always
timely
and
there
are
always
traffic
issues
and
that's
another
possibility
that
we
could
bring
to
the
table,
but
I
see
your
hand
sharon,
so
please
go.
D
I
D
No,
we
actually
had
well.
There
was
a
working
group
formed
in
knack
to
sort
of
actually
and.
D
It's
been
a
couple
of
years,
but
ultimately
mack
had
a
day
at
a
morning
at
av
tech
that
was
sort
of
just
an
open
forum
for
the
public
to
come
and
sit
down
and
talk
about
anything
traffic
related
that
they
wanted
to
talk
about
and
to
kind
of
to
document.
All
of
those
things
work
through
and
find
trends
and
issues,
and
then
talk
about
our
findings
and
ultimately
deliver
information
to
city
staff
and
council
as
well.
I
I
see
so
we're
talking
about
doing
it
as
a
virtual
meeting,
I'm
on
the
subcommittee
or
working
group
on
can
on
the
neighborhood
issue
that
brenda
was
talking
about
on
how
we're
trying
to
change
development
meetings
and
we're
working
extensively.
So
I
have
got
a
good
amount
of
information
on
where
we're
headed
on
that
working
with
city
staff
and
people
on
the
government.
I
Relations
on
can
so
I'd
be
willing
to
volunteer
the
knowledge
of
will
because
we're
working
now
so
by
the
time
that
comes,
it
should
formulate
change
in
the
udo
and
we'll
have
something
that
is
is
in
concrete
to
give
to
the
neighbors
our
neighborhoods
by
that
time,
and
I
volunteered
to
do
that
when
that
comes
about
whether
it's
virtual
or
whether
it's
in
person.
D
Great,
I
think
I
mean
that
would
be.
That
would
be
wonderful.
I
do
think
that
sort
of
the
first
step
again
is
just
figuring
out
what
that
sort
of
issue
topic
is
going
to
be,
and
we
don't
have
to
decide
today
again.
We
want
to
wait
for
our
work
plan
to
be
finalized
and
yeah
go
ahead.
Sharon.
I
D
So
yeah,
I
think,
ideally,
we
can
continue
this
conversation
and
move
towards
some
ideas
collectively
on
what
those
issues
might
look
like
at
our
june
meeting
and
and
continue
that
movement
forward.
D
G
D
So
sharon
and
I
are
serving
on
the
open
space
task
force
and
I'm
also
the
knack
liaison
to
the
multimodal
transportation
commission.
First,
we'll
start
with
open
space
task
force
updates
since
our
last
april
meeting
sharon.
I
do
have
some
notes
jotted
down,
but
do
you
want
to
go
ahead
and
sort
of
give
a
brief
synopsis
of
the
past
two
or
three
open
space
meetings
and
where
we're
at.
I
We're
working
on
cbd
and
the
fact
that
it's
never
been
required
to
have
open
space,
and
we
on
mac
and
in
the
urban
forestry
commission
have
said
that
open
space
is
really
needed
to
combat
the
heat
island
effect
that
we
have
downtown
and
that
open
space
allows
is
not
just
a
place
to
have
chairs
and
tables
that
it
can
be
green
infrastructure.
I
It
can
be
permeable,
paving
it
can
be
a
catchment
basement
basins
for
water,
because
we
have
no
storm
water
plan
really
in
downtown
and
we're
working
with
different
we're
working
with
developers,
we're
working
with
mac
and
p
and
z,
and
we've
got
all
these
boards
and
commissions
involved.
And
so
today
we
had
a
working
group
meeting
regarding
street
trees
in
downtown
and
we've
kind
of
come
up
with
a
consensus
that
we
will
forego
the
need
to
have
open
space
and
cbd.
I
If
we
beef
up
what
street
trees
are
given
for
their
root
viability,
so
that
we
have
trees
that
look
like
trees
in
downtown
as
opposed
to
trees,
that
look
like
dead
sticks
and
don't
do
what
trees
are
supposed
to
do.
So.
I
We've
had
a
couple
meetings
on
what
it's
going
to
look
like
to
give
a
tree
the
the
required
root
structure
it
needs
for
cubic
feet
and
how
the
city
and
the
developers
are
willing
to
put
in
things
like,
what's
called
a
silver
cell,
which
allows
trees
to
have
more
viable
root
system,
to
become
trees
and
are
are
costly.
But
it
is
in
lieu
of
a
fee
and
loop
for
open
space
or
requiring
open
space.
So
what
we're
doing
is
we're
negotiating.
I
I
So
we're
talking
about
the
different
overlay
districts
that
are
in
the
rad
and
how
they
can
accommodate
open
space
areas
that
aren't
necessarily
amenity
areas,
amenity
being
a
place
for
tables
and
chairs,
but
there's
actually
buffer
areas
between
I'm
going
to
say
apartments
for
our
condos.
That
we've
got
some
green
space
in
between.
I
Even
though
we've
got
a
river
on
one
side
of
us
and
that
constitutes
open
space
to
a
lot
of
people
and
then
we're
talking
about
making
buffers
that
are
trees
and
spaces
that
are
now
or
required
and
have
give
developers
credit
for
those
to
be
open
space
because
the
more
green
and
the
more
space
we
have,
that
should
be
constitute
an
open
space
once
again,
not
necessarily
a
place
for
tables
and
chairs.
So
we're
getting
down
into
more
of
the
specificity
of
what
does
open
space.
I
Look
like
I'm,
making
it
really
simple,
because
it's
again
very
complicated.
But
those
are
some
of
the
points
that
we're
working
on
specifically
right
at
the
moment.
D
Thank
you,
sharon.
That
was,
you,
say,
you're
making
it
simple.
That
was
a
much
more
detailed
explanation
than
what
I
had
ready
to
go.
So
thank
you
for
that.
Our
next
meeting
sharon's
been
able
to
to
make
more
of
them
than
I
have,
but
I'm
hopeful
that
city
reached
out
to
to
different
committees
asking
for
at
least
just
one
person.
So
I'm
glad
that
we've
got
two
folks
that
if
I
can't
make
it
at
least
sharon
is
always
there.
D
But
the
next
task
force
meeting
is
this
wednesday,
and
so
a
lot
of
the
draft
amendments
have
been
made
and
reviewed.
But,
like
sharon
said,
I
think
a
lot
of
people
were
uncomfortable
with
saying
those
were
ready
to
have
a
bow
put
on
them.
So
we're
still
going
to
be
talking
through
some
of
the
unresolved
issues,
many
of
which
sharon
brought
up
so
we'll
keep
you
posted
at
our
next
meeting.
I
No,
I
think
it
will
have
a
couple
more
meetings.
I
think
part
of
the
problem
is
we
had
this
consensus
and
we
didn't
all
quite
understand
consensus,
we're
more
waiting
to
have
a
vote
like
at
robert's
rules
of
order.
So
we
none
of
us
really
actually
raised
our
hand.
Are
you
four?
Are
you
against,
and
so
this
is
why
we've
got
more
discussion
going
on
and
I
do
believe
we're
probably
gonna
have
a
few
more
meetings
before
we
get
it
all
nailed
down.
That's
my
opinion
on
it.
D
This
is
anna
right
and,
I
think
also
you
know,
as
as
we're
sharing
sort
of
updates
from
these
other
commissions
or
boards
or
tasks
task
forces.
If
any
of
you
have
any
input
that
or
comments
or
questions
that
you
want
us
to
relay
to
these,
these
other
committees
or
groups
now
is
definitely
the
time
to
do
it
or
or
via
email,
but
it's
always
really
helpful
to
get
as
much
input
as
we
can
to
take
back
so.
D
With
that
said,
I'll
transition
to
updates
for
the
multimodal
transportation
commission,
I
was
unable
to
attend
the
april
meeting
due
to
being
out
of
town
for
work,
so
I
haven't
yet
reviewed
the
recorded
version
of
that
meeting
or
had
access
to
the
meeting
minutes.
But
at
the
march
meeting
I
think
you
know
multimodal
they're
wanting
to.
D
Hopefully,
have
staff
from
planning
an
urban
design
or
the
development
services
department
really
come
and
talk
and
break
down
the
existing
unified
development
ordinance,
which
is
the
big
in
basically
just
the
the
code
that
the
city
has
to
follow
all
the
rules.
The
city
has
to
follow
regarding
land
use
and
and
beyond,
as
it
relates
to
sidewalk
development.
D
That's
a
pretty
hot
topic
among
the
multimodal
transportation
commission
and
and
figuring
out
how
we
can
get
more
sidewalks
and
also
make
the
city
as
pedestrian
friendly
as
possible.
D
D
Fellow
commission
members
is
a
conversation
that
or
conversations
that
are
happening
regarding
multimodal
safety
along
the
merriman
avenue
corridor
that
that
stretch
of
road
comes
up.
All
of
the
time
we
had
a
meeting
where
there
were
multiple
public
comments
that
were
raised
about
the
safety
on
that
roadway
and
the
surrounding
areas.
D
It's
complicated
because
it's
an
ncdot
road.
So
there
needs
to
be
good
relationship,
building
and
partnership
with
between
the
city
and
ncdot
to
make
sure
that
we're
we're
getting
workable
solutions,
but
also
that
dot
is
listening
to
what
what
the
city
wants
and
the
city
is
asking
for
things
that
dot
can
actually
do
so.
D
There
is
a
resurfacing
schedule
for
that
road
that
is
set
to
occur
in
the
near
future,
and
I
know
that
folks
are
really
advocating
for
safety
improvements
and
potentially
a
road
diet,
so
representatives
from
the
mmtc
met
with
both
the
city
and
ncdot
shortly
after
april
meeting,
but
I
don't
know
the
outcome
of
that
meeting
specifically
so,
hopefully
I'll
have
more
to
report
in
june.
E
Yeah
I
was
curious
if,
if
there's
been
any
progress
on
the
corridor
studies
of
tunnel
road
and
hendersonville
road,
that
the
planning
was
supposed
to
be
working
on.
D
Yes,
there
have
been.
Unfortunately,
I
can't
speak
off
the
cuff
to
that.
I
can't
remember
if
the
tunnel
road
presentation
happened
at
our
april
multimodal
meeting
or
not.
I
just
can't
remember
off
the
top
of
my
head
that
agenda,
but
I
I
can
go
back
and
look
and
definitely
pull
any
information
for
you.
I
also
believe
the
hendersonville
road
one
is
wrapping
up
very
soon
brenda
I
don't
know
brenda
and
or
kim
I
don't
know
if
you
have
any
additional
information.
H
H
G
Yes,
I
have
a
question.
Thank
you.
This
is
wendy
hayner
anna
on
the
multimodal
transportation
commission.
Could
you
address
the
skid
pads
that
are
supposed
to
be
installed
at
the
beginning
of
each
sidewalk
as
it
transitions
from
the
street
to
the
sidewalk?
Is
there
any
addressing
that?
Because
of
so
many
of
the
neighborhoods
have
some?
But
then
they
don't
have
they're
missing
some.
So
I'm
just
wondering
the
outcome.
D
So
you're
asking
about
what
I
think,
they're
called
truncated
domes
that
are
on
the
curb
ramps,
and
I
only
know
this
because
I'm
actually
working
this
in,
like
my
professional
role,
but
those
are
actually
for
the
longest
time.
I
thought
they
were
for
pedestrians,
like
anti-skid
they're,
actually
for
folks
who
are
visually
impaired,
who
can
detect
those
with
if
they
have
some
sort
of
walking
assistance
so
that
they
can
delineate
the
transition
between
a
sidewalk
and
a
roadway
and
know
then,
and
if
to
navigate
that
safely
or
hopefully
safely.
D
I
do
know
that
the
city
is
currently
working
with
consultants
on
the
gap
plan,
which
is
the
greenway
accessibility
and
pedestrian
sort
of
master
plan
where
they're,
typical
oftentimes.
Those
three
components
are
done
separately
as
like
a
greenway
master
plan,
an
ada
accessibility
transition
plan
and
then.
D
Master
plan
but
they're
rolling
all
of
it
together
to
make
it
a
really
comprehensive
sort
of
document
and
plan
outcome,
and
I
do
know
that
that
information
is
collected
as
part
of
the
ada
aspect
of
that.
D
I
do
think
that
one
thing
that
might
be
interesting
and
also
really
beneficial
to
knack
is
to
have
city
staff,
maybe
come
and
give
us
an
update
on
the
gap
plan
and
see
see
where
they're
at
with
things
and
then
also
give
us
an
opportunity
to
to
ask
questions
like
that.
Where
they'll
have
some
more
detailed
answers,.
D
Thank
you
very
much,
no
problem
any
any
other
questions
before
I
think
that
hold
on
just
a
second.
D
I
did
hear
a
timer
that
wraps
it
up
for
for
everything.
Sorry,
I'm
toggling
back
and
forth.
We'll
move
now
to
our
final
item,
just
acknowledging
our
next
regular
meeting,
which
is
scheduled
for
monday
june
28th.
D
It
says
june
27th,
I
checked
my
calendar.
The
monday
is
the
28th
so
made
that
made
that
change
and
that
will
be
at
5
p.m
and
it
remains
remote,
and
it's
also,
you
know
just
a
reminder
that
knack
will
begin
to
take
live
comments
at
that
meeting.
D
D
G
B
I
will
certainly
ask
miss
lucy
crown
and
her
team
if
they
could
come
and
do
a
presentation,
I'm
working
with
anna
to
get
development
services
here.
It
all
depends
we're
getting
into
june,
so
we're
getting
the
people's
schedule
vacation
schedules,
but
I
will
send
her
an
email
first
thing
in
the
morning
I'll
be
glad
to,
if
not
june,
we'll
do
july.
Okay,.
E
Ahead,
yes,
one
of
our
things
on
the
work
plan
was
to
check
additional
attendance
and
other
boards
and
commissions.
I've
looked
over
the
list
and
there
are
a
lot
of
commissions
and
boards
that
really
don't
have
a
neighborhood
impact
like
a
board
of
electrical
examiners
or
the
audit
committee.
Don't
really
affect
neighborhoods
directly.
E
D
D
I
skipped
around
and
now
I'm
I'm
off
kilter,
but
one
last
call
for
for
comments
or.
D
Objections,
I
keep
hitting
my
mute
button.
Sorry
all
right
so
adjourned
our
meeting.
Thank
you.
Everyone
for
attending
joe
look
forward
to
seeing
you
in
june
and
hope,
pastor.
Hardaway
can
be
there
in
june
as
well,
to
give
you
all
a
big
thank
you
and
send
off,
and
our
meeting
will
be
muted
and
I'll
go
ahead
and
let
the
city
staff
take
care
of
that.
So
have
a
good
night.
Everyone
good
night.