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A
This
is
a
nine-person
committee
whose
primary
function
is
to
perform
design
review
for
projects
located
in
one
of
the
city's
three
designated
design
review
areas
downtown
the
riverfront
and
the
new
hotel
overlay
zoning
districts.
This
is
a
mandatory
review,
voluntary
compliance
process,
with
one
exception
for
hotels
seeking
to
skip
city
council
review
hotels.
Taking
advantage
of
this
incentive
must
receive
a
positive
recommendation
from
the
committee.
A
A
A
A
If
you
are
not
speaking
when
you
have
a
question
or
would
like
to
speak
a
mutual
microphone
and
use
the
raise
hand
function,
which
is
at
the
bottom
of
the
screen,
and
I
will
recognize
you
to
speak
and
please
remember,
to
mute
your
phone
after
you're
done
speaking
committee
members.
As
I
call
your
name,
please
say
a
quick
hello,
jeremy,
goldstein.
B
A
A
We
will
begin
with
our
administrative
items
in
any
unfinished
business
and
currently
the
only
administrative
item
we
have
is
approval
of
the
minutes
of
the
september
16
2021
meeting.
Does
everybody
review
that?
Are
there
any
additions
or
corrections.
A
A
second
okay?
We
have
a
motion
a
second
and
again
I'll
call
the
I'll
call
the
roll
for
the
vote
and
just
indicate
by
saying
I
or
a
or
I
iron,
a
robin
reigns:
hi
jeremy,
goldstein
hi,
kimberly
hunter.
I
brian
moffat,
aye
ben
williamson,.
B
A
So,
moving
on
to
new
business
portion
of
our
agenda,
we
have
two
projects
seeking
formal
design
review.
We
will
take
these
cases
in
the
order
they
appear
on
the
agenda.
Staff
will
kick
things
off
with
a
short
presentation,
after
which
the
applicant
or
or
the
design
team
members
will
be
invited
to
speak
once
presentations
are
done.
We
will
also
pause
to
take
any
public
comment,
but
I
may
need
help
remembering
that.
A
Please
keep
in
mind
that
it
is
not
uncommon
to
have
technology
issues
during
these
presentations,
such
as
a
screen
freezing
or
during
public
comments,
such
as
participants
losing
connections.
If
this
happens,
exit
the
meeting
and
re-enter
using
the
same
link
or
call
a
number
you
used
to
join,
we
will
now
begin
with
our
first
new
business
item
on
our
agenda,
which
is
apologize.
That's
my
phone
488
south
market
street
level,
one
project
review
sasha.
I
know
that
we've
been
asked
to
continue
this
to
a
later
date.
A
B
C
A
The
second
item
on
a
new
business
agenda
is
formal
design,
review
at
50,
collier
avenue
and
sasha.
Would
you
like
to
present
something
on
that
sure?
Thank
you
so
much.
Yes,
this
item
is
for
50
collier
and
I'm
going
to
just
show
you
a
quick.
This
is
a
map
of
the
area.
A
This
project
encompasses
these.
This
triangular
parcel
where
the
wake
sculpture
was-
and
this
second
parcel
here
for
approximately
0.46
of
an
acre.
So
this
is
just
an
I
to
orient
folks.
I
guess
maybe
you've
seen
this
project
before
so
maybe
you,
you
may
feel
more
already
oriented,
but
this
is
where
paiza
is
the
pizza
place,
the
new
pizza
places,
and
so,
when
we're
looking
at
the
drawings,
this
is
cox
avenue
to
the
east,
and
this
is
the
point
of
the
parcel.
A
A
It
is
so
it's
a
triangularly
shaped.
Building
there
are
10
or
or
wider
sidewalks
on
both
sides.
A
They
are,
they
have
one,
they
have
interior
parking,
35
spaces.
So
here's
the
driveway
here
on
the
west
side,
there
is
an
outdoor
dining
space.
Here
there
is
leaseable
space
I'll
go
through
the
floor
plans
in
a
second
and
one
reason
this
project
was
delayed
and
coming
to
you
all
is
because
there
were
gas
and
sewer
lines
in
the
sidewalk
which
made
placing
the
trees
very
difficult.
A
So
this
project
has
been
to
alternative
compliance
and
received
approval,
and
basically
they
are
able
to
place
all
the
street
trees.
There's
some
spacing
over
here
in
the
lower
corner.
That's
a
little
bit
just
tiny
amounts
closer
than
normal.
They
are
using
silver
cells,
which
is
great,
so
it
should
be
really
good
planting
medium
for
these
urban
trees
and
they've
selected
upright
species
for
these
for
the
landscape.
A
A
Through
the
site
plan,
so
this
is
the
bottom
floor
again
like
the
entrance
to
the
garage
is
here
underground
parking,
35
spaces,
one
kind
of
a
not
not
quite
a
half
level
up,
but
there's
leasable
space
with
a
door
here
at
the
point
of
the
triangle,
and
one
of
the
requirements
for
hotels
is
that
in
the
downtown
areas
that
you
have,
fifty
percent
of
your
frontage
is
set
aside
for
a
separate
occupiable
space.
A
So-
and
you
can,
you
can
add
together.
If
you
have
two
street
facades,
you
can
add
them
together.
A
So
for
the
millard
street
side
they
have
almost
pretty
close
to
100
percent
leaseable
space,
and
then
you
know
here
there's
I
think
it's
something
like
80
feet
of
on
collier,
so
together,
they're
they're
far
over
50
for
that
requirement,
and
that's
why
they
they
submitted
some
extra
drawings
for
me
more
than
for
you
all,
just
to
make
it
clear
that
the
lobby
is
not
a
part
of
this
retail
space
and
that
it's
separate,
separate,
separate
and
leasable
by
so
it
could
be,
it
could
change
over
time.
A
The
second
floor
are
25
hotel
rooms
and
then
the
third
floor
which
work
on
all
condominiums
are
now
seven
extended
stay
units
and
three
condominiums,
so
they
are
hitting
that
maximum
point
for
a
small
hotel,
which
is
35
rooms
that
makes
sense
and
then
there's
the
rooftop,
which
is
has
a
fair
amount
of
green
roof.
It
has
two
exit
stairs,
there's
a
restroom
building
here
and
then
the
elevator.
A
So
we
cut.
We
end
up
a
little
bit.
We'll
talk
about
this
in
a
little
bit
with
three
structure:
four
structures
up
here
and
possibly
a
pergola
or
something
like
that
and
then
moving
to
the
renderings.
A
So
some
of
you
were
at
the
downtown
commission
meeting
last
week
and
some
of
you
weren't,
but
basically
the
downtown
commission
had
a
very
robust
conversation
about
this
building.
The
renderings
that
were
first
submitted
for
design
review
looked
different
than
what
you
all
saw
in
informal
reviews.
So
there
was
a
lot
of
discussion
about
that,
and
one
of
the
big
points
was
the
brick
material
and
shannon.
I
can't
see
who
that
is,
if
you
could
so
they
have
revised
that
brick
pattern
and
they
also
submitted
a
new
material
sheet.
A
Everything
is
pretty
much
the
same,
except
just
the
brick
is
a
little
bit
more
solid,
darker
color,
which
I
think
folks
preferred,
and
it
seems
like
it
fits
better
kind
of
in
this
more
warehouse,
slash
industrial
district
of
downtown,
the
other
I'll
just
say
really
quickly.
The
other
comments
of
the
downtown
commission
I
outlined
them
in
the
report.
A
Were
there
was
a
concern
about
a
lack
of
pedestrian
activity
on
the
sidewalk?
I
think
folks
clearly
recognized
that
the
dining
area
would
activate
that
upper
corner
of
millard,
but
there
was
concern
that
there's
not
as
much
going
on
here
on
the
sidewalk.
A
In
some
drawings
there
were
bicycle
racks
down
here.
This
rounded
metallic
structure
at
the
corner
looked
different
in
the
in
the
new
drawings,
and
I
was
assured
they.
Actually,
it
actually
had
stayed
exactly
the
same.
It's
just
some
of
the
rendering
software
peter
may
talk
about
that
changes.
How
things
look
so
and
and
really
all
the
proportions
of
the
building
and
the
windows
had
actually
stayed
the
same.
I
think
the
rendering
looked
very
different,
so
this
is
a
view
from
the
millard
side
and
with
the
outdoor
dining
piece
of
it.
A
And
and
then
here's
a
view
of
the
roof-
and
this
was
another
issue
that
was
brought
up
at
the
downtown
commission-
was
about
these
buildings
and
if
it,
if
they
were
a
good
balance
or
not,
was
it
you
know.
So
I
think
that's
something
for
the
committee
to
discuss
today.
A
And
then
this
is
the
collier
side
and
after
really
studying
these
drawings,
I
really
I
kind
of
understood
the
commission's
reaction
about
the
sidewalk,
and
I
think-
and
I
made
this
recommendation
in
my
staff
report.
I
really
think
that
some
sort
of
attention
to
these
pedestrian
entrances-
this
is
the
hotel
entrance,
and
this
is
the
condo
entrance.
A
I
think
the
flatness
of
the
facade
doesn't
help
signal
to
people
that
there's
things
going
on.
When
you
look
up
and
down
the
street,
you
could
some
people,
you
know
on
buildings,
they
often
use
awnings,
I'm
not
sure
awnings
are
necessarily
appropriate
in
this.
A
In
this
instance,
so
in
my
staff
report
I
I
outlined
how
this
met
design
recommendation
or
the
design
guidelines,
and
I
really
felt
like
for
in
terms
of
the
guideline
document
itself,
the
the
emphasis
on
entrances
was
the
one
place
that
I
felt
like
this
could
be
improved
in
terms
of
the
guidelines
and-
and
I
think
the
the
other
thing
I'm
recommending
is-
that
the
bike
racks
instead
of
being
placed
at
that
corner
that
really
they
could
be
placed,
I
think,
between
the
street
trees
in
a
way
that
are
you
know
if
you
use
the
round
kind
of
round
bike
racks
and
you
place
they're
parallel
to
the
building,
so
they
don't
stick
out
a
lot,
and
so
the
bikes
would
be
parallel
to
the
building,
and
then
that
way
it
wouldn't
interfere
to
most
of
the
sidewalks.
A
A
But
I
mean
they're
allowed
by
code
and
we
don't
have
any
guidelines.
You
know
the
guidelines
really
say
we
want
you
to
screen
mechanicals,
have
it
integrated
into
the
design
and
all
of
that,
but
there
aren't
any
guidelines
that
address
this
specific
issue.
A
So
with
that
and
just
this
materials
as
a
reminder
with
that,
I
will
stop
there
and
ask
peter
alvarez:
is
here
john
canard
their?
The
engineer
is
here
and
rob
doll
with
site
work
studios
here?
If
you
have
any
comments,
pierre.
F
F
Several
questions
have
come
up
and
I'll
try
to
answer
them
the
best
I
can
the
first.
Let's
talk
about
this
view
here,
the
intention
of
the
round
element
was
to
be
a
nod
to
how
brewing
is
done,
and
this
is
supposed
to
symbolize
a
large
brewing
vessel
and
we
think
it's
an
appropriate
element
for
this
part
of
downtown
nashville,
since
this
is
the
project
is
going
to
be
called
the
brewery
district
and
it
is
in
the
south
slope.
F
So
imagine
this
as
a
repurposed
fairly
large
vessel,
that's
used
for
brewing
and
we
think
it's
a
fun
element
to
have
in
a
building
of
this
type
and
feel
that
it
works
well
with
the
with
this
part
of
downtown
the
question
about
the
metals
all
the
metal
that
you
see
on
the
faces
of
the
balconies,
the
structures
on
the
roof,
and
this
container
will
all
be
a
some
type
of
metal
finish
panel.
That
is
not
shiny,
that
it
that's
more
of
a
pewter
soft
non-reflective
color.
That
looks
like
it
has
some
age
to
it.
F
The
and
the
intention
was
to
have
them
all.
Be
the
same
that
now
we
can
look
at
the
reason
for
the
placement
of
the
elements
on
the
roof
where
they
are.
We
are
required
to
have
handicap
accessibility
to
the
roof
because
it
will
be,
you
know,
public
space,
and
we
also
need
yes,
if
you
look
there
because
of
the
size
of
the
area,
we
need
two
exit
stairs
the
elevator
lobby
and
we
have
to
provide
restrooms.
So
those
are
all
building
elements
that
are.
F
The
intention
is
to
have
them
sit
lightly
on
this
roof,
which
is
why
we
didn't
propose
making
them
out
of
brick
that
we
wanted
to
use
the
metal,
because
there
are
other
metals
in
the
project
and
we
thought
that
would
be
more
appropriate
to
have
one
family
and
one
color
palette
of
a
sort
of
a
pewter
gray
color
that
we
would
use
throughout
the
project.
So
that's
the
intention.
F
Can
you
go
to
the
elevation
sheets,
the
ones
that
are
not
the
model
views,
but
the
ones?
I
guess
is
page?
Yes,
those
what
we're
proposing
here
is-
and
I
want
to
make
sure
everyone.
E
F
Changed
we
haven't
really
changed
the
floor
to
floor
heights
or
any
of
that.
The
only
thing
different
that
we
have
done
is
after
studying
how
the
roof
would
be
used
as
a
publicly
accessible
space.
We
realized
we
needed
these
other
elements
up
there.
Now
we
can
always
look
at
how
they're
done
we,
for
example,
they're
shown
now
as
having
a
slight
pitched
roof.
We
could
change
those
so
that
they'd
be
low
slope
flat
roof
which
would
not
make
them
as
tall
or
appear
as
tall.
F
We
don't
have
any
problem
with
that,
but
we
feel
that
keeping
that
metallic
color
and
having
it
match
the
balconies
and
the
the
vessel
element
at
the
point
of
the
building
of
our
appropriate
callers,
the
sidewalks
they're,
of
course,
10
feet
wide.
They
will
be
well
activated
once
tenants
are
in
on
that.
On
the
first
floor,
the
intention
is
to
have
a
lot
of
different
types
of
activity.
F
What
always
happens
in
trying
to
adjust
floor
levels
with
the
street
is
because
we,
our
city,
is
on
sloped
land,
we're
going
to
have
situations
where
the
sills
are
not
going
to
go
all
the
way
down
to
the
street,
but
we
feel
there's
enough
opening
and
enough
activity
here
that
it
will
create
that
sense
of
pedestrian
interest
and
have
a
nice
transition
between
the
inside
and
the
outside
spaces.
On
the
first
floor,.
A
F
The
ones
that
have
the
the
hashed
x
mark-
those
are
the
ones
that
are
open.
F
We
will
look
at
probably
or
reconfiguring
those
so
that
they're
as
short
and
height
as
possible
in
order
to
have
the
clearances
required
and
change
those
to
low
slope
roof
elements,
so
they
they
are
don't
as
appear
as
tall
as
they
do
right
now.
We
don't
have
an
issue
with
that
and
then
to
the
question
about
the
entry
spaces,
the
lobby
spaces
on
the
carrier
side.
F
I
think
it's
we're
perfectly
willing
to
add
some
type
of
either
overhang
or
projecting
element
or
something
that
we
can
do
to
enhance
those
entry
points,
and
I'm
not,
I
think,
part
of
the
the
issue
with
us
was.
We
wanted
to
make
sure
we
had
the
sidewalk
with
and
this
all
that
needed
to
be
done
in
terms
of
the
location
of
the
trees,
knowing
that
we
need
to
address
this
entry
issue
further
on.
F
F
It
needs
to
be
some
identifier
that
shows
people
where
the
entry
of
the
building
is
where
we
will
certainly
do
that,
and
the
last
item
and
I'll
turn
it
over
to
our
consultants,
is
that
the
brick
we're
going
back
to
a
darker
brick
that
has
it's
more
of
an
urban
type,
brick,
that's
that
has
some
some
darker
reds,
maybe
a
little
bit
of
purple
a
little
bit
of
iron
spot,
something
that's
more
traditional
with
a
an
older
industrial
building
that
would
be
found
anywhere
in
a
city
in
the
south,
so
we're
trying
to
stay
away
from
brick.
F
That's
too
light!
That's
you
know
that
has
too
much
white
in
it
and
apologize
for
the
the
hiccup
on
our
prior
renderings.
That
was
a
software
glitch
and
we
still
haven't
been
able
to
determine
what
happened
because
we
didn't
have
that
problem
with
four
points.
So
please,
if
you
would
bear
with
us
and
and
know
that
we
know
what
the
context
is.
We
believe
that
this
fits
very
well
within
the
existing
contents
of
context
and
it
will
provide
or
and
meet
the
goals
of
downtown
of
you
know
within
this
project.
E
Yep,
I'm
here
thanks
peter
yeah,
wanting
to
dive
into
the
bike.
Rack
thing
a
little
more:
we
we
only
have
two
feet
of
non-public,
sidewalk
and
so
we're
having
trouble
finding.
You
know
we
need
four
foot
by
six
foot
for
a
city
standard
bike
rack.
So
I
think
there
may
be
a
way
to
do
sort
of
a
custom
bike
rack
that
is
maybe
mounted
to
the
side
of
the
building
versus
in
the
sidewalk,
and
they
may
be
designed
for
a
single
bike
per
rack.
E
A
Somewhere,
you
know
and
they
the
main
requirement
just
first,
so
everybody
knows
is
that
bike
racks
are
supposed
to
be
within
50
feet
of
a
publicly
accessible
entrance.
So
you
could
put
one
you
know
within
50
feet
of
this
point
entrance
and
you
could
put
another
one.
You
know
over
here
by
the
dining
or
you
know
things
like
that.
So.
E
You
know
it's
not
going
to
be
the
round
rack
mounted
in
the
sidewalk,
because
we
just
don't
have
the
room
to
keep
the
bike
out
of
the
public
sidewalk,
but
I
think,
there's
probably
a
pretty
cool
solution
to
that
that
we
can
follow
up
on
yeah.
A
Jane,
I
don't
know
if
you
is
there,
anybody
you
peters,
is
there
anything
else?
You
need
from
your
team
to
sit
here.
F
Sasha,
hey,
I'm
sorry
I
was
on
mute.
Did
you
ask
me.
A
A
F
F
That
we're
still
looking
at
how
tall
to
build
the
parapet.
If
we
build
the
parapet
up,
so
that
it's
42
inches
above
the
roof
deck,
then
that
will
go
away.
But
we
need
to
have
some
type
of
fencing
at
the
edge
of
the
roof
and
I'm
not
sure
what
that
would
be
yet.
But
I
think
our
preference
would
be
to
raise
the
parapet
up
enough
so
that
we
don't
need
to
have
any
additional
equipment,
screening
or
fencing.
F
F
B
A
C
So
peter
you,
you
believe,
you've
addressed
the
pedestrian
items
that
we
we
covered.
Have
you
thought
about
doing
some
kind
of
canopy
or
even
using
you
know,
you
kind
of
have
these
little
boxed
pieces
for
your
balconies?
Have
you
thought
about
creating
some
kind
of
canopy
for
your
pedestrian
entrances
on
the
I'm?
Getting
my
on
the
hillyard
side.
Call
your
side.
F
Yes,
brian,
we
have
where
we
know
that
that's
an
issue
that
needs
to
be
addressed.
We
had
some
concerns
about
how
the
street
tree
placement
relative
to
the
the
utility
issue
on
the
sidewalks.
We
hadn't
shown
anything
yet,
but
it
would
probably
be
a
good
idea.
I
think,
from
a
design
standpoint,
do
you
have
a
canopy
that
is
similar
to
and
uses
the
same
color
palette
as
the
metals
that
are
already
there?
I
agree.
C
Well,
this
set
of
renderings
does,
I
think,
do
a
better
job
portraying
what
you're
trying
to
do
with
the
building
a
quick
thing,
the
the
little
window
to
the
left
of
the
hotel
entrance.
I
believe
it
is
right
there.
It
needs
a
lentil
to
be
consistent
with
the
the
language
you
set
up
elsewhere.
Yes,.
C
I
I'm
still
struggling
with.
I
think
that
the
placement
of
the
the
little
rooftop
structures
is
better
than
it
was
before,
but
it's
still,
the
language
is
just
inconsistent,
peter
with
with
itself
and
each
other
like
some
of
the
there's
roof
overhangs
on
some
pieces
and
not
on
the
others,
and
I
don't
know,
there's
just
something,
maybe
that
instead
of
seeing
little
pitched
roofs,
maybe
we
need
flat
roofs
that
they
they
have
a
parapet
and
a
drain
system.
Maybe
that
would
minimize
them.
C
I'm
not
sure
I
just
think
there's
some
things
going
on
there
that
could
be
addressed.
I
understand
you're
trying
to
minimize
them
and
I
don't
mind
the
material
change.
I
get
that
I
think
it's
in
the
the
the
placement
of
of
those
things
and
the
arrangement
of
it.
I
think
the
very
first,
the
very
first
submittal
you
sent
they
they
had
a
little
more
appreciable
rhyme
and
reason
I'll
I'll,
stop
there
and
let
robin
jump
in.
G
So
I
I
wonder,
if
part
of,
if
this
could
help
the
roof
too,
the
the
edge
on
the
roof
coping
is,
is
black
and
I
don't
know
if
it's
intended
to
be
black,
but
it's
it's
very
stark,
so
it
it
creates
a
dis,
a
disjoint
between
those
roof
structures
and
I
think,
makes
them
stand
out
even
more
than
they
would
so.
I
don't
know
if,
if
something
like
that
could
help,
but
the
edge
of
the
roof
stands
out
quite
a
bit,
and
I
also
had
a
question
about
the
soldier
coursing.
G
F
We
had
to
project
it
so
that
it
could
be
seen
in
the
rendering,
so
the
the
idea
is
to
have
it
all
be
flush
and
that
the
the
upper
the
second
and
third
floor
would
have
jack
arches
over
the
windows
and
the
all
the
littles
on
the
main
floor
since
they're
wider
would
be
either
c
channels
with
a
plate
or
I-beam
with
a
plate,
something
that's
metal,
that's
steel
and
I
like
the
idea.
If
we
make
the
coping
at
the
roof
line,
the
same
color
metal,
then
then
again
that
will
all
tie
together.
F
We'll
make
them
flat
we'll
get
rid
of
the
overhangs,
we'll
make
them
as
short
in
height
as
we
can
in
order
to
have
everything
fit.
Knowing
the
elevator
part
may
need
to
be
a
little
bit
taller
than
the
others,
but
there's
no
reason
why
they
they
don't
need
to
be
pitched.
We
were
just
playing
around
with
what
that
could
look
like,
but
if
the
group
is
in
favor
of
having
it
be
flat,
roofs
we're
fine
with
that.
C
Well,
I'm
I'm
thinking
I'm
looking
at
this,
I'm
rendering
right
now
and
if,
if
they
had
more
to
do
with
this
front
piece,
I
hesitate
to
call
it
the
beer
can,
although
I
think
that's
what
you
guys
have
referred
to
it,
but
if
it's
a
brewing
tag,
it's
not
a
beer
brewing!
Okay,
brewing
tank,
yeah
yeah
yeah,
brew
tank.
If
it
you
know,
if
there
was
a
similarity
in
the
in
the
in
the
detailing
between
those
those
pieces,
then
it
would
make
more
sense
to
me.
F
F
F
Okay,
yes,
all
the
metal,
that's
that's
gray
is
the
same
metal
and
then
at
the
the
coping
around
the
top,
we'll
use
the
same
gray
color
so
that
all
our
metals
are,
you
know
the
same
now.
The
where
it
will
change
will
be
the
window
framing.
That's
that's
intended
to
be
a
dark,
bronze,
anodized
or
black
anodized
material.
A
If
not,
is
there
anybody
who'd
like
to
make
a
motion.
C
Were
there
any
conditions
other
than
the
they're
going
to
work
out
the
location
of
the
bicycle
rack
with
staff?
Don't
remember
any
others.
A
I
would
assume
staff
would
also
review
any
canopy
design.
Is
that
right,
sasha,
yeah,
yes,
and
that
that's
what
I've
been
wondering?
I
was
asking
shannon
what
I
I
didn't
know
if
you
all
wanted
to
put
a
condition.
Yes,
so
in
sorry,
let
me
go
back
brian
in
the
recommend
snap
recommendation.
I
didn't
add
it
into
the
motion.
A
You
know
recommending
the
movement
of
the
bike
racks
outside
of
the
point
and
recommending
additional
attention
to
the
pedestrian
entrances,
either
through
canopies
or
unique
metal,
signage
or
other
treatment,
and
I
guess
what
I'm
saying
here
is
that
a
flat
sign
on
the
wall
to
me
is
a
lost
opportunity.
A
F
E
F
A
Like
you,
I've
just
seen
so
many
beautiful,
like
metal
signs
that
might
curve
out
a
little
bit
if
it's
not
a
canopy
or
something
that
would
kind
of
you
know.
So
I
don't
know
if
you
all
would
want
to
see
that
come
back
later
or
we
could
give
you
an
update
and
shannon.
What
do
you
say
I
just
so.
This
is
something
that
you
know
with
this
committee,
it's
kind
of
new
when
we
have
these
projects
that
require
approval
or
even
when
they
don't
require
approval.
A
A
We've
had
a
couple
conditions
here
in
the
not
too
distant
past
that
were
pretty
vague
and
open-ended,
and
that
really
creates
a
dilemma
for
staff
in
determining
that
that's
been
addressed
so
as
much
detail
as
you
can
put
in
that
condition.
Without
you
know,
we
understand
you
don't
want
to
be
overly
prescriptive,
but
definitely
help
us
with
a
little
guidance
so.
C
Elevations
and
materials
submitted
discussions
heard
during
this
review,
and
we
find
that
the
project
meets
the
intent
of
the
downtown
design
guidelines
subject
to
the
following
conditions:
one
that
the
design
and
location
of
the
bike
rack
be
moved
from
the
intersection
of
the
of
the
road
to
a
point
accessible
by
by
by
residents
users
and
the
public
in
a
design
that
is
consistent
with
the
building
detailing
and
the
city
of
asheville
standards,
as
approved
by
the
relevant
authorities
in
public
works.
How's.
E
C
Number
two:
that
the
pedestrian
entrances
for
the
hotel
and
for
the
condos
be
addressed
with
a
design
consistent
with
the
detailing
of
the
building,
including
a
a
canopy
design
consistent
with
the
current
balcony
design
and
the
main
metal
design
element
at
the
intersection
of
collier
and
help
me
sasha.
I
just
lost
the
others.
C
I
can't
say
that
word
and
then
number
three
that
the
applicant.
C
Revise
the
design
of
the
rooftop
structures
to
be
consistent
with
the
the
main
design
metal
design
element
at
the
intersection
of
milliard
and
collier.
I
think
I
said
that
right.
Something
french
in
my
head
is
that
is
that
sufficient
conditions
and
direction?
C
C
My
intent
would
be
a
for.
The
second
condition
is
that
that
is
a
a
building,
a
fixed
element
that
projects
horizontally
from
the
face
of
the
building,
providing
it's
a
it's
an
awning
or
a
canopy
of
some
type.
That
is
reflective
of
both
the
balcony
detailing
and
the
that
front
piece.
It
could
be
curved,
it
could
be
a
box,
but
in
in
form
and
function
it
needs
to
be
consistent
with
the
the
the
remaining
remaining
detailing
of
the
building,
but
providing
a.
C
A
C
Did
I
I
thought
I
did
a
condition
on
that
that
that
they
revised
those
consistent
with
the
material
and
detailing
of
the
of
the
main
design
element.
A
A
A
A
A
I
do
not
have.
I
did
not
get
materials
ahead
of
time.
I
know
that
warren
sugg,
with
cdc
and
daniel
jimenez
with
delray
ventures,
are
here,
so
I
would
let
them
present.
Okay.
H
Sure
I
can
do
that
sasha.
I
will
present
now.
A
A
I
don't
have
anything
prepared,
and
I
don't,
but
I
guess
I
will
say
is
this:
is
the
same
development
group
that
developed
patent
place
apartments
at
the
corner
of
patton
and
clingman
north
of
here,
and
they
have,
I
believe,
side
control
of
this
site.
Warren
can
go
over
the
size.
This
would
be
a
conditional
zoning
and
it's
here
at
the
intersection
of
hilliard
and
clingman.
There's
a
lot
of
interest
from
the
weekend.
Neighborhood,
because
you
know
they're
just
across
the
street
to
the
south.
A
Here
is
360
hillyard,
which
was
city
on
land
and
payne
passenger
is
just
finishing
up
a
set
of
apartments
there
with
quite
a
forget
how
many
affordable
units
are
there,
but
it's.
A
We're
excited
we're
thrilled
with
that.
It's
I
feel
like
there's
40
some
apartments
that
are
going
to
be
affordable
for
maybe
50
years.
So
that's
a
big
new
change
for
that
neighborhood.
So
this
is
another
development
right
next
to
them
as
well.
Sasha.
A
Can
you
talk
about
that?
What's
proposed,
for
this
warren
will
talk
about
it.
It's
residential
use,
I
think
in
some
mixed
commercial.
H
Great
well
I'll,
take
it
from
there
then.
Yes,
this
is
at
the
corner
of
hilliard
and
clingman,
so
klingman
going
north
south
on
the
page
and
hill
you're
going
right
right,
left,
east
west
as
shannon
or
sasha
had
mentioned
the
patent
first
development
is
just
off
the
page
to
the
north
here
so
patton
avenue
is,
is
just
off
the
page.
We
do
have
pearl
to
the
east
of
the
site.
H
There
are
basically
an
existing
gravel
parking
lot.
That's
there
today
plus
a
couple
buildings
that
would
be
part
of
the
plan
and
would
be
demoed
as
part
of
the
development.
One
thing
that
is
currently
staying
or
a
couple
things
are
currently
staying
is
the
post
office.
Most
of
you
may
know
where
that
is.
That
is
just
to
the
north
of
us
on
the
other
side
of
this
alleyway,
and
it
would
be
remaining
right
now
and
then
there's
three
residential
structures
along
pearl.
That
would
be
remaining
as
well.
H
Those
are
the
three
remaining
between
the
existing
patent
project
and
this
current
one
high
level.
We
would
have
buildings
along
hilliard
and
along
clingman
we
will
have
some
commercial
space.
That
would
be
activated
from
the
hilliard
side.
H
We
would
have
a
apartment
building
that
would
be
at
the
corner
of
pearl
and
hilliard,
which
would
be
a
three-story
building
about
36
units,
and
then
we
would
have
the
remaining
parts
over
top
of
the
commercial,
as
well
as
over
top
of
the
podium
parking
that
would
be
residential
units,
so
we've
got
about
201
parking
spaces
and
I
think
we're
roughly
about
12
to
13
000
square
foot
of
commercial
and
I
think,
we're
at
194
units.
I
believe.
H
Yeah,
it's
the
problem
of
having
two
screens
and
me
looking
at
one
screen
versus
where
you
guys
are
I'm
what
I'll
do
is
I'll
put
it
over
on
the
other
screen.
I
won't
be
able
to
see
you
all
anymore,
but
I
will.
A
H
Perfect
we
fixed
the
we
fixed
the
cursor
issue
with
this
project.
It
is
a
cz
and
we
did
make
cz
submittal
yesterday
to
get
into
that
process.
We
have
had
a
pre-app
meeting
with
the
city
a
month
or
so
ago,
and
we'd
even
had
some
informal
discussions
with
city
staff
on
this
development.
H
We
did
invite
not
only
those
owners
and
tenants
within
200
feet,
but
we
also
invited
a
couple
of
the
neighborhood
groups
that
we
had
cross-referenced
with
the
city
as
being
part
of
that
part
of
that
discussion
by
and
large,
the
neighborhood
meeting
went
well
that
we
got
good,
informed
discussion,
this
discussion
and
questions
and
we're
able
to
sort
of
respond
to
some
of
those
and
and
so
keep
some
of
it
in
mind
for
as
we're
going
through
design
a
couple
key
things
I'll
bring
you
to
and
then
certainly.
E
H
Sidewalk
and
pedestrian
area
here
along
hilliard,
I'm
gonna
zoom
into
it
a
little
bit.
So
we
we
are
proposing
the
10-foot
required
sidewalk
along
hilliard,
but
with
building
placement
and
what
all
we're
trying
to
do
here.
We
actually
have
another
about
12
feet
of
space
that
we
believe
is
a
real
amenity
and
something
that
these
commercial
spaces,
whether
they
ended
up
being
shops
or
restaurants
or
anything,
there's
a
there's,
an
outdoor
use
here.
That
could
be
a
real
activator
and
I
think
it's
a
nice
nice
feature
to
it.
H
Access
points
along
hilliard
and
along
pearl
and
we
have
internal
circulation,
but
there's
no
connections
onto
klingon
and
then
from
there
I'll
just
go
ahead
and
zoom
down
to
the
elevations,
which
is
what
everybody
here
probably
really
wants
to
talk
through.
I
think
mark
with
klein
is
on
here
and
he
can
certainly
speak
a
lot
more
to
the
elevations
and
materials
and
all
that
good
stuff.
But
you
are
seeing
the
clingman
elevation
to
the
bottom
of
the
page
you're,
seeing
the
hilliard
elevation
to
the
top
of
the
page.
H
H
A
Far
my
only
question
warren
is
on
the
elevation
on
hilliard.
I
noticed
that
all
the
doors
open
added
onto
that
widened
sidewalk.
You
were
touting
and
it
seems
like
that's
a
contradiction.
Maybe
the
doors
should
be
recessed
into
some
kind
of
an
alcove
so
that
people
don't
get
hit
by
the
doors
as
they're
walking
along
that
sidewalk.
H
Possible,
but
I
will
I'll
go
back
to
this
and
say
yeah.
They
certainly
could
open
and
I
guess
if
we
had
to,
we
did
alcoves,
but
that
would
be
22
feet
from
curb
line
two
where
the
door
would
be
opening-
and
I
I
don't
know
I
mean
I
I
I
know,
certainly
when
you're
on
that
10
foot
mark,
we
don't
want
doors
opening
out
in
the
dit,
but
I
don't
I
don't
know
if
that's
a
code
thing
or
a
good
design
or
just
what
it
is.
A
C
Understand
there
also
be
information
on
the
other,
smaller
building
on
hilliard
and
pearl.
Okay.
H
There
yeah
so
the
next
next
page
has
the
pearl
elevations
of
of
that
building
and
a
sort
of
a
third
elevation
perspective
of
the
parking
deck
side
or
the
interior
side.
You
would
be
coming
in
from
the
driveway
here
and
I
think
I
think
I
need
mark
and
I
need
to
talk
some
more.
I
think
this
may
be
maybe
more
openings
and
maybe
more
of
the
columns
rather
than
solid,
but
we
can
certainly
talk
through
today.
H
Today
is,
I
guess,
the
informal
and
then
we
would
be
back
before
you
for
a
formal
after
we
take
take
some
notes.
D
You
need
to
take
it
from
here
one.
Yes,
please
would
you
zoom
in
to
the
the
clingman
elevation
I'll
start
there
we'll
just
work
our
way
around
the
building.
D
There
we
go
well
first,
I
appreciate
everybody's
time
today,
so
we're
good.
You
probably
can't
see
my
person's
out
of
control,
but
I'll
start
on
the
left,
the
left
side.
So,
if
you're
on
the
left
side
of
this
elevation,
that
is
towards
the
patton
and
klingman
intersection,
so
we're
coming
down
clingman
left
to
right
and
you'll
notice
that
we're
at
grade
and
the
grade
starts
to
fall
away
pretty
quickly
as
anyone
that's
ever
driven
down.
Clingman
knows
so
we
took
that
opportunity
to
put
the
parking
behind
that
grade.
D
So
the
plan
you
saw
podium
parking,
but
that
is
not
going
to
really
be
exposed
at
cleveland.
All
of
our
yeah.
There
you
go
yeah
it's
sitting
up
under
there,
it'll
be
it'll,
be
below
grades
that
won't
be
exposed
because
we
wanted
to
really
we
want
to
activate
both
streets
and
get
as
much
glass
on
those
streets
as
possible
and
get
eyes
on
the
street
so
to
speak
and
try
to
make
it
as
pedestrian
friendly
as
possible.
D
So
that
was
a
conscious
decision
to
get
that
parking
underneath
the
building
and
below
the
grade
so
that
we
don't
have
to
see
it.
The
what
you're
looking
at
now
is
primary
is
all
apartments.
That's
gonna
be
four
stories
of
apartments
over
the
podium
parking
down
to
the
right,
where
we
turn
the
corner
on
hilliard.
It
turns
into
the
the
retail
spaces
and
right
now,
you'll
see
that,
with
a
lot
of
times,
you
see
these
buildings
a
little
bit
larger
they're,
it's
very
easy
to
make
for
them
to
become
very
horizontally
oriented.
D
So
we
made
conscious
decisions
to
bring
some
vertical
elements
and
vertical
grouping
into
these
buildings
to
not
only
break
them
up,
so
you
don't
have
one
giant
facade,
but
also
to
accentuate
verticality
and
some
vertical
elements.
So
it
doesn't
look
like
we
have.
You
know
horizontal
layers
continuously
continuously
down
the
street.
D
Now
for
as
far
as
materials,
we've
got
it
pretty
well
labeled
there
definitely
brick
masonry
at
the
base
and
maybe
a
little
higher.
We
haven't
gotten
through
all
that
yet
and
for
the
upper
levels
of
a
fiber
cement
product
and
we're
thinking.
Color
is
going
to
come
into
play
here
as
well.
We
don't
foresee
any
bright,
crazy
colors,
but
I
I
think
we're
going
to.
D
We
want
to
stick
with
you
know
more
more
of
the
muted
kind
of
colors
that
will
obviously
pleasing
to
the
eye,
but
that
we
can
use
the
color
to
differentiate
our
spaces
as
well,
to
kind
of
to
to
break
up
and
accentuate
the
corners
and
the
vertical
elements
and
horizontal
elements.
D
So
warren
when
you
go
to
the
hill,
the
hilliard
elevation
as
we
come
around
hilliard
on
the
left,
is
the
corner
that
we
just
came
around
off
of
klingman
and
we
see
the
corner
out.
The
corner
is
being
you
know,
that's
that's
the
most
important
part
most
important
section
of
the
building.
It's
where
the
pedestrian
entry
is
going
to
be
for
the
apartments
and
the
leasing,
and
it's
also,
you
know
a
great
opportunity
to
do
something
really
kind
of
cool
coming
up
from
the
arts
district
up
the
street.
D
D
C
C
Of
course,
so
on
the
the
patton,
I
guess
patent,
one
now
you've
got
a
taller
brick
base.
It's
got
the
first
two
stories
that
are
that
are
brick,
or
at
least
most
of
it
is,
whereas
this
one,
it's
really
just
the
piece
on
clingman.
Excuse
me
on
hillyard,
that
is,
that
is
brick.
It
kind
of
comes
out
of
the
ground.
On
on
on
the
clingman
elevation,
I
just
note
that
that's.
C
It
seems
it
seems
like
you
would
want
to
be
a
little
bit
more
consistent
with
what
you've
done
before
as
well
as
bringing
that
I,
I
think
your
your
hillyard
elevation
is
much
more
successful
so
far
than
the
clingman
one
from
what
I
can
see.
One
of
the
things
about
the
first
patent
is
that
it's
got
a
very
flat
kind
of
lack
of
a
better
term
pasted
on
the
the
materials.
Just
I
mean
they're
very
they're,
very
flat.
C
The
vertical
elements,
kind
of
stick
up
past
the
roof
and
they're
very
thin.
The
brick
looks
very
much
applied
to
the
building.
It
doesn't
really
wrap
around
corners
or
anything
it's
just
a
it's.
A
very
odd
building
is
the
is
the
intent
to
to
match
that
kind
of
detailing
on
this
one
as
well.
D
The
short
answer
is
no:
if
you
look
and
I'm
glad
you
brought
that
up
ryan
thanks
for
the
question,
look
at
the
balcony,
the
balcony,
any
of
the
balcony
conditions
you
can
point
to
one
of
those
there
you
go
so
the
balconies
actually
great,
the
actual
balconies
conditions
actually
extend
past
the
face
of
the
building
to
create
some
depth
and,
above
those
we're
envisioning
a
sloped
metal
roof,
so
that
the
parapets
on
either
side
of
those
balconies
will
return
back
to
the
bigger
roof
and
create
that
depth
that
we
were
missing
on
patent.
D
C
C
Okay,
perfect,
that
that
that's
one
of
the
least
successful
elements
of
that
I
mean
it's
got.
You
know
the
brick
and
everything
on
on
on
the
first
one.
It's
got
some
pieces
that
that
started
out.
Oh
okay,
just
the
the
execution
wasn't
quite
there.
Okay,
so
I
I
think
I
can
kind
of
see
a
little
bit
about
what
you're
doing,
but
there's
still
that
clingman
elevation
still
feel.
I
I
realize
you're
making
everything
you've
got.
C
Some
you've
got
some
rhythm
and
it's
and
it's
it's
still
a
really
big
building,
and
it
still
looks
all
like
the
same
building
to
me
and
I
don't
know
if
that's
at
least
until
you
get
closer
to
hilliard,
where
where
it
begins
to
feel
like
a
you
know,
you're
introducing
the
board
and
bat
and
you've
got
that
corner
piece,
and
I
know
you
want
to
make
that
that
corner
special,
and
I
really
do
I
very
much
like
the
the
the
retail
piece
that
retail
base
that
you've
got
on
hillyard.
C
If
we
want
it
to
be
this
long,
I
mean
even
the
even
though
you've
put
a
lot
of
work
into
this.
You
know
creating
these
different
vertical
elements.
They
still
feel
very
they're,
all
the
I
mean,
still
all
the
same
building,
I'm
wondering
if
you
start
introducing
things
like
in
a
couple
places.
You've
got
these
stairwells
where
you've
got
a
little.
You've
got
a
break
in
the
building.
C
You've
got
the
the
three
little
windows
and
then
the
door
below,
if
maybe
that's
a
glass
element,
and
it
begins
to
break
the
buildings
up
so
that
they,
you
know
it's
you've
got
a
color
range,
that's
very
similar.
C
Maybe
they
start
to
a
glass
element,
starts
to
break
the
buildings
up
into
separate
buildings,
and
then
that
gives
you
a
leave
to
kind
of
mess
with
color
and
and
texture
and
materials
a
little
bit
more
even
than
what
you're
doing
so
far-
and
I
don't
know
if
that's
just
me
or
if
anyone
else
is
kind
of
reacting
to
the
the
size
of
that
building
on
clingman.
A
D
C
That's
what
I'm
feeling
like
so
when
I
look
at
this
building,
I'm
seeing
a
you
know
a
gastalt
on
the
on
the
corner
of
klingman
and
hillyard,
and
then
you've
got
that
you've
already
got
that
natural
break
in
the
in
the
plan
and
in
the
in
the
elevation
with
the
I'm,
assuming
that's
a
stairwell
looks
like
one
yeah
right
there.
C
Thank
you
warren
and
then
there's
another
one
kind
of
on
the
on
the
other
side
right
there
there's
a
break
in
the
two
buildings
yeah
right
there,
where
it
feels
like
you
could
start
to
go
okay.
This
is
a
building
and
it's
got
its
you
know,
and
maybe
they're
relating
to
each
other,
but
they
can
be
more
different
so
that
so
that
it
doesn't
feel
like
you
know,
just
one
humongous
building,
but
you
really
are
breaking
it
up
into
different
buildings
right,
okay
and
that
we
got
we're.
A
Some
design
input
as
well
as
this
committee
knows:
I'm
not
a
big
fan
of
fiber
cement,
siding
at
all,
I
just
don't
think
brian
you're
laughing.
But
to
me
it's
not
an
urban
material
and
I
think.
A
A
I
mean
you
know:
you
talked
about
the
use
of
the
brick
at
the
base.
You
know
expanding
it.
On
the
hilliard
side,
I
mean
that
seemed
like
you
know,
good
use
of
trying
to
get
that
material
and
the
problem
I
have
with
the
patent
project
that
was
mentioned.
I
mean
I
wasn't
on
a
committee
reviewing
that,
but
you
know
the
faux
wood
elements
to
me
are
disturbing
and
again
not
very
urban,
not
very
downtown
material,
wise,
and
I
would
rather
see
you
know.
A
I
hear
you
saying
colors,
you
know,
but
you
know,
but
having
you
know,
having
materials
that
are
more
masonry
would
probably
be
more
beneficial
and
I
know
jeremy.
I
don't
want
to
monopolize
this
jeremy.
You
have
a
question.
B
Yeah
quickly,
because
I'm
not
the
architect,
but
maybe
I
have
my
rules,
you
know
confused,
but
isn't
there
a
requirement
to
have
sort
of
that
masonry
or
brick
or
something
on
the
pedestrian
level
going
down
clingman?
So
at
least
that
for
the
first
two
stories
or
something
like
that,
a
certain
level
before
you
would
go
to
a
fiber
cement?
C
It's
it's
in
the
one
of
the
master
plans
or
the
it's
like
a
recommendation.
I
think,
but
I
don't
think
it's
a
requirement.
You
know.
So
this
is
jeremy,
where
we
get
into
udo
can
require
certain
things,
but
we
can't
really
require.
This
is
where
the
mandatory
review
volunteer
compliance
stuff
comes
in.
We
can't
really
require
specific
things
like
that,
but
we
can
say
you
know,
that's
not
that's
not
consistent
with
the
side
or
the
other.
Okay
that
help
yep
thanks.
G
Jeremy,
I
think
what
you
might
be
thinking
about
is
there's
a
requirement
in
the
udo
to
make
a
street
wall.
That's
not
the
right
term.
Somebody
help
me
here
but,
like
you,
go
up
a
couple
stories
and
then
have
a
cap.
Okay,
that's
a
street
wall
yeah.
I
think.
A
And-
and
the
street
wall
is,
I
think
we-
this
is
outside
of
the
core
of
downtown,
so
the
street
wall
is
supposed
to
be
set
by
the
width
of
the
right-of-way,
and
I
think
this
might
be
and
it's
a
conditional
zoning.
So
I
think
the
right-of-way
has
a
funny.
It
jigs
and
jags
around
here
a
little
bit
on
hillyard,
so
they
might
be
going
above.
A
The
street
wall
height
a
little
bit
for
part
of
this
building,
but
council
has
the
ability
to
approve
that
and.
C
I
I
want
to.
I
want
to
concur
with
jane
that
I
would
prefer
this
to
be
an
urban
building
with
urban
materials
and
urban
detailing
than
a
suburban
apartment,
building
in
terms
of
its
materials
and
detailing.
B
C
H
C
That
agree
with
the
the
the
the
at
least,
you
know
trying
to
break
the
building
up,
where
there's
at
least
three
buildings
on
on
the
clingman
side
kind
of
response.
Or
is
that
just
me.
B
C
But
but
the
design
principle
remains,
jeremy,
that
you
know
when
you,
when
you've
got
a
street
wall
like
this,
you
know
think
of
the
the
differentiation
and
the
rhythm
and
the
granularity
of
like
the
buildings
along
biltmore
avenue
or
or
market,
or
you
know
any
of
those
areas
in
in
this
town
or
any
town,
where
you're
really
looking
for
now,
they've
they've
done
that
I
want
to
make
this
clear
they've
already,
you
know,
they've
got
a
lot
of
verticality.
C
I
really
appreciate
the
the
the
way
they've
grouped
their
balconies
and
and
put
these
pieces
together
and
they
do
have
you
know
different.
You
know
it's
the
the
building's
moving
in
and
out
in
elevation,
it's
changing
materials,
it's
changing
detailing,
so
it's
doing
a
lot
of
that,
but
because
it's
so
big
and
because
they're
you
know
working
from
a
similar
palette
it
really.
It
really
begins
to
still
look
like
us.
You
know
when
you,
when
you
drive,
walk
along
it,
see
it
like
this,
it's
one
building
and
so
the
more.
C
I
think
that
they
can
interrupt
the
building
with.
Maybe
you
know
like
a
glass
element
or
a
different
kind
of
element
for
those
stairwells.
Those
little
reveals
areas
and
then
start
to
play
with
you
know
different
materials
and
and
and
arrangements.
I
think
I
see
in
this
elevation.
You
could
get
at
least
three
buildings.
You
know
you've
got
that
big
central
piece.
You've
got
already.
You've
got
the
the
the
intersection
piece
and
then
you've
got
the
piece
that
would
be
adjacent
to
the
post
office.
B
C
Although
even
even
on
that
one,
I
would
still
use
that
that
stairwell
that
they've
got
as
a
break
and
then
the
building
on
the
right.
I
would
make
it
a
completely
you
know
it
would
be.
I
mean,
maybe
it's
masonry
all
the
way
up
and
it's
its
own
thing.
A
la
public
works
building
or
something
like
that.
E
A
D
Zoom
in
on
the
hillyard
elevation
airborne,
so
this
is
a
obviously
smaller
three-story
36
is
a
36
studio
unit
building,
which
the
reason
is
the
size
it
is
is
because
we
had
some
site
constraints
that
restricted
our
buildable
area
in
that
corner.
So
we
got
it
as
big
as
we
could
within
the
site
constraints,
there's
a
a
utility
or
a
sewer
ease
that
goes
goes
behind
this
and
cuts
it
off
on
a
billiard.
D
Exactly
I
mean
we've
got,
you
see,
we
got
stoops
out
on
the
front
of
them.
Yeah
we
can
vary
the
materials
and
the
colors.
C
Just
just
from
a
project
and
site
planning,
I'm
pretty
excited
about
it,
kudos
on
the
the
the
pedestrian
area
right
there
across
from
the
tennis
courts.
That's
gonna,
that's
gonna
be
sweet.
C
I
I
like
all
the
parking
that
you're
you're
adding
I
I
appreciate
you
know
the
the
the
kind
of
pushing
the
automobiles
interior
of
the
of
the
of
the
property,
and
I
I
appreciate
the
way
you're
you
know,
addressing
the
site
and
addressing
it
looks
like
you've
got
pedestrian
activation,
at
least
on
the
the
the
hilliard
piece,
I'm
not
exactly
sure
how
all
that
works
on
the
clingman
side,
but
you've
got
plenty
of
you
know
interest
at
least
on
on
on
that,
I'm
not
quite
sure
how
that
works
from
pedestrian
level.
C
Yet
I
didn't.
I
wasn't
looking
at
it
as
closely
as
I
should
have,
and
I'm
excited
to
see
what
you
come
back
with.
A
Thank
you.
I
have
one
question
for
sasha
and
this
is
not
an
applicant
issue,
but
I'm
just
curious
about
parking
for
aston,
because
I
know
aston
parking
has
creeped
over
to
these
lots
across
the
street
without
having
access
for
parking.
I'm
just
curious.
What
happens
during
construction
is
that
parking
on
site
gonna
reopen.
A
A
A
And
sasha,
I
don't
know
if
that's
also
to
be
just
presented
by
the
design
team,
we'll
let
shannon
talk
to
you
I'll,
give
a
little
introduction
and
then
I
think
the
design
team
might.
I
might
turn
it
over
to
them.
But
so
I
don't
believe
that
this
committee
has
reviewed
a
hotel
for
design
review
outside
of
the
downtown
or
riverfront
areas.
Yet
so,
just
as
a
reminder,
we
have
three
design
review
areas
now
in
the
city,
the
downtown,
the
river
arts
district
and
our
hotel
overlays.
A
A
So
the
applicant
is
interested
in
revising
the
design
of
the
building
and
this
the
the
cumulative
effect
of
the
design
changes
is
too
significant
to
be
approved
administratively,
so
we
recommended
that
they
come
to
the
design
review
committee
for
some
feedback.
If
they
choose
to
move
forward,
they
will
have
to
go
to
before
council
to
amend
their
conditional
zoning.
A
So
this
is
a
little
bit
of
a
different
path,
because
this
is
not
a
level
two
seeking
to
skip
council
they're
going
to
have
to
amend
their
plan,
but
our
expectation
would
be
one
of
the
first
questions
from
council
would
be.
Did
this
go
to
design
review
and
what
did
the
design
review
committee
think?
So
we
wanted
to
share
it
with
you
to
kind
of
let
the
applicant
get
some
feedback.
A
Also,
I
don't
believe
you
all
have
needed
before
now
to
reference
the
design
guidelines
that
were
adopted
for
hotels,
so
I'm
going
to
share
those
on
my
screen.
Well,
actually,
I
think
I'll
share
a
link
in
your
chat
window,
so
you
can
pull
those
up
and
look
at
those
they're
they're
grouped
there
are
site
design
guidelines,
then
there's
architecture,
building,
design
guidelines.
Then
I
think
there's
some
operational
guidelines
they're
not
really
making
any
significant
changes
to
the
site.
A
I
think
we
could
probably
comfortably
skip
that
section
and
just
really
focus
on
the
the
building
elements.
The
architecture
elements
so
sean
before
you
go
any
further.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
this
is
an
informal
review.
Is
there
going
to
be
a
formal
review
later
on,
or
is
this
really
a
formal
review?
A
A
E
A
A
Shane,
could
you
just
say
again
for
the
for
everyone?
What
that
link
is.
It
is
a
link
to
the
hotel
design
guidelines.
Now
these
are
guidelines
for
hotels
outside
of
the
downtown
and
river
arts
area,
so
I've
just
dropped
that
link
in
your
chat.
So,
if
you
all
are
on
pcs,
you
can
open
that
up
and
we
will
also
email
it
and
jeremy.
The
chat
is
on
the
should
be
on
the
right
hand,
side
of
the.
A
B
A
I
can
also
share
my
screen
and
and
show
it
to
you,
that's
just
going
to
say
for
the
public
yeah.
Let
me
do.
A
B
A
For
those
areas
that
have
their
their
own
design
guidelines,
we
would
use
refer
to
those,
but
because
the
areas
outside
of
the
cbd
and
the
rad
are
multiple
different
kinds
of
zoning
districts,
they
all
don't
have
their
own
set
of
design
guidelines.
We
use
these
now
I
will
say
these
were
kind
of
an
early.
You
know
this
is
our
inaugural
foray
into
design
guidelines
for
hotels
outside
of
the
cbd
and
rad.
So
these
are
not
intended
to
be
a
finished
product,
as
we
have
all
frequently
discussed.
A
Updating
design
guidelines
is
a
high
priority,
so
this
is
just
another
set
of
design
guidelines
to
consider.
So
you
can
see
I've
shared
on
my
screen
in
case
there
are
members
of
the
public
watching.
So,
as
I
mentioned
there,
there,
the
guidelines
are
grouped
in
categories,
so
the
first
set
are
the
site
design
guidelines,
and
then
we
have
these
building
design
guidelines.
A
So
and
then
I
also
thought
it
might
be
helpful
to
kind
of
share
an
image
of
what
was
approved
by
council
back
in
2018.
So
here
you
can
see
this
is
the
residence
inn.
It
is
located
across
the
street
from
what
was
formerly
called
the
lee
walker
heights
of
community.
It's
now
I
think
maple
crest
and
then
there's
that
city-owned
property,
that
is
between
maple
crest
and
biltmore
avenue,
so
can
give
to
you
some
site
context.
If
you're
familiar
with
that
area,
are
there
any
questions
for
me
before?
I
turn
it
over
to
the
applicant?
H
Yeah,
I
don't
have
a
whole
lot
to
add
here
on
this
one.
We
do
have
erica
with
oda,
who
is
the
architect
on
the
project
and
she
can
go
into
a
little
bit
of
it,
but
I
will
give
some
context
and
sort
of
add
to
that
yeah.
This
project
was
went
through
a
formal
cz
before
moratorium
times
so
a
couple
years
ago,
and
it's
been
entitled
since
then.
It's
actually
gone
through
some
construction,
drawings
and
then
pandemic
kit
and
all
the
other
good
things.
H
I
don't
know
that
anybody
would
necessarily
know
that
other
than
some
of
the
residents
to
the
back
of
us
also
we've
been
able
to
work
with
some
of
the
elevations
in
the
heights
to
sort
of
better
better
the
view
and
our
our
opinion
and
our
idea
and
shannon
was
nice
enough
to
meet
with
us.
H
I
believe
it
was
last
week
or
week
before
all
the
weeks
were
running
together
at
this
point
and
give
us
some
give
us
some
feedback
on
it
and,
as
you
mentioned,
we
wanted
to
come
before
this
group
share
what
we've
got
get
feedback,
but
we
are
looking
to
try
to
keep
this
as
simple
as
we
can,
possibly
since
we
are
already
entitled
and
just
hoping
to
sort
of
minimize
our
our
process
and
our
efforts.
But
we
do
do
welcome
y'all's
feedback
so
erica.
I
H
I
For
having
us
really
appreciate
it,
your
time,
let
me
see
if
I
can
get
my
screen
shared.
I
And
let
me
start
with
one
of
the:
can
everyone.
A
I
Screen,
yes,
all
right
awesome
am
I
a
cursor,
I
assume
yes,
okay,
so
first
off,
let
me
show
what
we
had
when
we
spoke
with
shannon
the
other
day.
A
couple
of
her
comments,
you
know,
was
breaking
up
this
facade
and
I
noticed
that
came
up
earlier
in
the
conversation
and
then
also
this
two
level
parking.
I
We
kind
of
it
looked
like
one
floor
versus
you
know
the
two
floors
and
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
it
was
very
clear
that
those
are
two
levels
but
also
to
make
those
look
like
their
occupied
space.
I
So,
let's
go
to
the
new
design
here
and,
like
I
said,
after
speaking
with
shannon,
we
added
in
some
more
sort
of
vertical
elements
here,
to
give
it
more
of
a
residential
feel,
because
we
do
have
residential
behind
us
and
across
from
us.
I
believe,
there's
new
apartments
going
in
over
there.
I
One
thing
that
we
did
do
that
was
not
in
the
previous
design.
We
now
have
a
bar
located
on
the
third
level
where
the
lobby
is
located.
We
left
the
entrance
the
same
as
the
previous
design,
so,
like
warren
had
said,
the
site
really
hasn't
changed.
The
footprint
has
decreased
a
little
bit.
The
the
parking
structure
itself
is
down
one
level,
so
the
residential
below
or
behind
us
will
actually
be
further
away.
I
So
I'm
sure
they'll
appreciate
that,
but
we
sort
of
created
this
to
activate
the
street
a
little
more
since
we
do
have
parking
on
the
first
few
levels.
So
the
bar
area
and
the
lobby
is
up
here
in
sort
of
this
lit
area,
and
then
you
can
kind
of
see
kind
of
draws
your
eye
up
here
to
this,
and
then
we
do
have
that
two-story
sort
of
the
feel
for
pedestrian
scale,
but
also
having
that
masonry
that's
required
as
far
as
materials
we
were
thinking.
I
This
is
all
eefs,
but
it
seems
like
you
guys,
kind
of
want
to
go
away
from
that
which
we
would
completely
understand.
It'd,
be
easy
to.
You
know
if
this
needed
to
be
another
material,
that
shouldn't
be
an
issue.
I
know.
Fiber
cement
is
actually
well
known
for
a
residence
inn
because
it
is
an
extended
stay,
so
we
can
definitely
look
at
using
different
materials
if
that's
necessary
were
just
trying
to
reduce
some
cost
on
some
of
these
materials,
and
the
prototype
actually
looks
very
similar
to
the
previous
design.
I
So
we
wanted
to
get
away
from
that,
and
I
noticed
that
was
just
in
those
guidelines
that
you
guys
had
just
shown.
So
hopefully
that
helps
a
little
bit
too,
but
I
guess
I'll
just
let
you
guys
kind
of
look
through
this
a
bit
and
then
let
me
know
if
you
have
any
comments,
questions
and
we
can
go
from
there.
I
Well-
and
it
is
very
different
from
the
previous
design-
so
you
know,
monarch
came
to
us
and
you
know
he
wanted
something
a
little
more
out
of
the
box
and,
like
I
said,
not
less
prototypical,
so
we
kind
of
went
that
direction.
We
also
wanted
to
make
sure
that
the
street
view,
because
I
actually
went
to
av
tech
I'm
from
asheville.
Originally
my
parents
are
still
there.
I
love
it,
but
anyway
I
used
to
drive
by
this
exact
empty
lot
every
day,
and
you
know
I.
I
I
assume
that
we
would
want
the
views
from
the
sides
to
be
just
as
approachable
as
well.
So
here's
the
view
coming
towards
mission
hospital,
and
this
is
the
deck
you
can't
even
see
it,
because
we
have
the
sort
of
curved
area
here.
That's
that
quick
ramp
and
then
coming
from
the
other
direction.
I
A
G
Hi,
I
think
this
is
an
improvement
over
the
first
design.
I,
like
it
better,
so
the
the
image
that
we
just
saw
had
a
blank
wall,
and
I'm
just
I'm
trying
to
orient
myself.
Is
that
that's
that's.
Is
that
a
pedestrian
way,
because
that's
one
of
the
this.
I
Is
the
road
that
leads
up
to
that
neighborhood
residential
neighborhood?
Beyond?
That's
that's
white
pond.
G
Okay,
so
does
that
fall
into
the
facades
visible
from
a
public
way
should
avoid
use
of
blank
okay.
So
I
see
that
as
a
problem.
G
A
A
There's
maybe
well,
I
think,
some
of
them
we
could
go
through
really
quickly,
so
number
nine
materials
building
materials
should
be
of
high
quality
and
reflect
the
historic
building,
materials
of
character,
defining
structures
located
in
the
same
area
or
neighborhood.
A
I
A
Okay,
if
there
are
no
other
comments
about
materials,
we
can
move
on
architecture,
architectural
design
should
be
well
thought
out
and
adapted
to
the
site.
Prototypical
designs
should
be
discouraged.
A
So
I
mean
just
for
me
one
thing
about
this
and
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
the
colors,
that
kind
of
rusty
red
and
that
cream
color.
But
to
me
that
looks
prototypical
and
I
don't
know
exactly,
but
you
know
that's
how
branding
works
right.
It
kind
of
yeah
burns
something
into
our
consciousness
and
then
we
see
it
we're
like.
Oh
that's
a
residence
inn
before
you.
I
They
are
brand
colors,
but
if
that's
the
one
thing
you
know,
if
we
need
to
change
that,
I
don't
think
we're
stuck
with
those
colors
and,
as
I
mentioned,
the
previous
design
was
actually
more
like
the
prototype,
because
it
does
have
more
of
that
sort
of
vertical
fiber
cement
all
over
it
with
pitched
roofs
everywhere,
and
it's
more
of
it
looks
like
a
house
more
so
because
it
is
extended
say
so.
We
did
kind
of
get
away
from
that
and
I'm
glad
we
did
because
that
is
said
not
to
do
prototypes.
I
So
but,
like
I
said
if
the
color
is
an
issue,
we
can
definitely
look
at
that.
C
I
can,
I
think,
robin
I've
taken
her
place,
don't
mean
to
a
couple
of
things.
So
this
I
agree
with
robin.
I
like
this.
This
is
not
as
offensive
as
the
previous
one.
The
the
the
massing
is
pretty
pretty
interesting,
but
I've
got
a
couple
pieces
that
just
are
are
hitting
me
wrong.
C
One
is
in
in
the
image
on
screen
right
now,
the
cantilevered
piece
with
the
two
off-colored
columns,
something's,
not
jiving,
on
that,
it's
like
the
I
don't
know
it's
like
you
needed
to
prop
it
up,
and
so
you
stuck
a
couple
of
toothpicks
under
it
and
it
and
it's
not
really
engaged
with
the
site
or
with
the
design
that
you've
done
in
other
other
places.
Either
it's
got
to
be
less
of
a
cantilever
or
the
supports
need
to
be
more
integrated
with
what
you're
doing
in
that
building.
C
I
generally
like
the
way
you've
broken
up
the
with
that
with
that
glass
piece
and
with
the
void
form
underneath
the
that
that
main
central
piece
I
can
see
easily
where
the
the
the
pedestrian
and
the
vehicular
entrance
is.
When
you
tried
to
break
up
that
the
the
piece
on
the
left-hand
side
of
the
current
image
with
those
two
by
not
bringing
those
down
and
engaging
that
that
the
way
it
it
kind
of
interrupts
what
you're
doing
vertically,
and
so
I
still
read
it
all
as
a
single
building.
C
C
I
don't
know
if
anybody
else
is
seeing
that
or
or
reacting
to
it,
and
then
I
would
just
agree
completely
that
you've
got
to
address
that
the
the
facade
as
you're
heading
out
of
downtown
yeah,
that
one
you've
given
a
lot
of
attention
to
the
other
corner,
but
we've
gotta,
we've
gotta
address
this
corner
as
well.
A
A
Okay,
I'm
just
looking
quickly
at
the
other,
so
building
height
hasn't
changed
at
least
not
appreciably
placement
and
orientation
hasn't
changed
entrances,
I
don't
think
have
changed
or
they
maybe
they've
shifted
a
little
bit,
but
I
don't
know
the
the
comment.
The
design
guideline
for
entrances
is
that
additional
entrances
supporting
or
complementing
the
primary
egress
should
be
considered,
so
lighting
should
be
subtle
and
artfully
designed
not
to
be
designed
to
attract
attention
to
the
building
or
site.
A
A
I
think
that
would
be
more
a
concern
at
the
rear
of
the
building.
Building
signage
identification.
Signage
attached
to
the
building
should
not
be
should
be
creative
and
balanced
with
the
architectural
features
of
the
building
and
should
not
dominate
the
facade.
Colors
should
complement
and
be
compatible
with
the
building
materials.
A
Attention
should
be
given
to
window
placement
that
considers
the
sun's
path
at
different
points
of
the
year.
Blank
walls
have
been
discussed
and
there
is
parking
structured
parking,
but
it
is
already
screened.
So
those
appear
to
be
the
main
things.
The
architecture.
C
On
the
the
open
space,
what
kind
of
open
space
are
you
guys
providing
on
this
project?
I
see
the
the
the
piece
on
the
corner.
H
There's
some
internal
amenity
type
space
and
a
lot
of
that
was
what
was
captured
first
round.
I
think
all
those
are
still
integrated
into
this
this
time
around.
If.
C
If
I
would
make
a
suggestion,
warren
is
that
you
incorporate
the
current
proposed
requirements
for
the
five
percent
open
space
specifically
just
show
that
you're
meeting
the
the
intent
of
the
of
what
the
task
force
has
proposed.
It
looks
like
you'd
meet
that
with
everything,
including
the
seating.
You
know,
you
know
what
I'm
gonna.
What
I'm
talking
about?
Are
you
familiar
with
that?
Have
you
looked
at
it
at
all.
H
As
long
yeah
as
long
as
we
can
get
some
internal
and
external
use
of
amenity
spaces,
I
think
we
can
get
there.
C
C
Is
is
that
a
green
wall?
That's
climbing
up
beside
the
glass
wall.
I
It
is,
it
may
be
actual
or
we're
looking
at
different
materials.
It
could
potentially
be
a
mural
or
a
change
in
material,
so
we're
still
kind
of
figuring
that
out.
G
C
A
A
A
There
is
no
one
in
the
queue.
Okay,
that's
the
last
item
on
our
agenda
and
if
I
can
get
a
motion,
I
guess
we
can
adjourn.
A
Second,
thank
you,
jeremy
and
I'll.
Just
call
the
roll
again
robin
reynes,
hi
jeremy,
goldstein,
aye,
kim
hunter
hi
brian
moffitt.