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Christina,
I
did
text
sage,
she
hasn't
responded
yet
so
I
assume
she's
trying
to
get
back
on
we'll
give
it
a
couple
more
minutes
or
we
will
go
to
pinch
hitter
vice
chair
robin
merrill.
F
A
A
G
G
Everyone
I
just
had
a
technical
failure,
but
I
am
here
and
I
should
be
stable
now
so
welcome
everyone
and
good
morning
I
am
your
new
chair,
councilwoman
sage
turner,
I'd
like
to
welcome
you
to
our
march
25th
asheville,
regional
housing
consortium,
home
allocation
meeting,
all
committee
members
and
staff
are
participating
virtually.
We
appreciate
your
patience
as
we
work
through
committee
meetings,
a
bit
differently
and
occasional
technical
difficulties.
G
We
also
have
an
option
for
the
public
to
listen
by
phone
and
for
those
of
you
who
are
out
there
with
us
today.
Thank
you
and
welcome.
We
appreciate
you
joining
us,
I'm
going
to
go
through
a
roll
call
of
all
the
committee
members.
We
do
have
six
new
committee
members,
including
myself
today,
because
we
have
such
a
long
meeting
and
important
meeting
we're
not
going
to
take
the
time
to
introduce
everyone.
So
I
do
want
to
welcome
the
five
new
members
and
we're
going
to
go
through
roll
call.
A
G
So
myself,
sage
turner-
I
am
here
vice
vice
chair
robin
merrell
good
morning
sage,
good
morning
for
the
city
of
asheville
development
services,
director
ben
woody.
G
G
M
G
Thank
you,
karen
from
temple
glitcher,
we
have
eric
roofa.
G
All
right,
town
of
montreat,
alex
carmichael.
G
Good
morning,
adrian
from
the
town
of
woodfin,
jason,
young
town
manager,
jason,
are
you
with
us:
okay,
we're
gonna,
mark
jason
as
absent
from
transylvania
county.
We
have
kate
hayes.
G
G
We
have
a
lot
of
folks
on
the
meeting,
but
if
you
raise
your
hand,
I
will
be
able
to
know
that
you're
interested
in
speaking
and
we
can
call
on
you
all
right.
First
up,
you
know
we
have
one
big
agenda
item
today,
so
we're
going
to
hear
from
staff
about
staff
report
and
then
we're
going
to
move
on
into
the
home
presentations.
G
E
I
can
and
good
morning
sage
and
good
morning,
robin
and
good
morning
to
the
consortium
thanks
so
much
for
being
here
for
a
busy
morning.
We
really
appreciate
it.
Everyone
should
have
gotten
a
copy
of
the
staff
report.
I
am
going
to
take
just
a
couple
minutes
to
go
through
a
few
things
on
the
staff
report.
Just
so,
you
all
know
how
the
city
of
asheville
as
the
lead
entity
takes
a
look
at
this
and
tries
to
do
a
good
evaluation
job
on
the
criteria
for
home
funding.
E
So
home
investment
partnership
program
funds
provide
formula
grants
to
states
and
localities
that
communities
use,
often
in
partnership
with
local
nonprofits,
to
fund
a
wide
range
of
activities,
including
building
buying
or
rehabilitating
affordable
housing
for
rent
or
home
ownership,
or
providing
direct
rental
assistance
to
low-income
people,
as
in
fiscal
2021.
City
management
has
asked
that
cd
staff
make
the
home
funding
recommendations
for
the
upcoming
fiscal
year
to
be
approved
by
the
asheville
regional
housing
consortium
and
then
approved
by
city
council
as
part
of
our
annual
action
plan.
E
Just
taking
a
look
on
the
staff
report
again
with
some
of
this
evaluation
criteria
and
the
difficult
funding
decisions,
we
certainly
try
to
take
a
look
at
eligible
activity
and
meeting
any
kind
of
national
objectives,
limited
funding
right
now
this
year,
I
believe
we
have
close
to
1.4
million,
but
about
5.5
million
in
request.
E
We
take
a
look
at
previous
consortium
county
allocations,
how
the
project
impacts
our
high
priorities
unmet
in
the
past
five
years
of
the
new
priorities
that
just
came
out
in
our
five-year
consolidated
plan,
organizational
capacity
and
experience,
taking
a
look
at
budget,
measurable
outcomes,
duplication
of
services,
clarity
of
application
and
thinking
in
advance
a
little
bit
about
the
home
funding
of
the
second
round
and
also
when
it
comes
to
chodos,
where
fifteen
percent
of
our
home
funds
must
be
set
aside
for
specific
activities
regarding
this
I'll
have
an
update
on
that,
where,
at
the
bottom
of
that,
it
says
that
no
shadow
applications
were
received,
hold
your
thoughts
right
there,
we'll
have
an
update
for
you
in
just
a
moment.
E
When
we
share
the
funding
spreadsheet,
we
did
take
the
time
to
list
the
consolidated
plan
priorities.
The
high
and
low
that
came
out
of
this
previous
five-year
consolidated
plan
that
just
got
put
together,
and
so
please
take
a
look
at
those
high
and
low
priorities,
and
please
note
that
each
year,
cd
receive
requests
from
local
agencies
doing
valuable
work
in
the
community
with
limited
funding.
These
funding
decisions
can
be
very
challenging.
E
City
strives
to
fund
agencies
in
the
spirit
of
partnership
under
the
regulations
of
hud
and
within
the
capacity
of
community
development
for
agencies
not
awarded
in
this
funding
cycle.
Cv
is
working
on
ways
to
assist,
to
build
the
capacity
of
our
partners
and
improve
prove
their
chances
of
future
funding.
E
And
with
that,
we've
got
our
approximate
allocations
here
and
then
I
will
go
to
the
present
presentation
schedule
in
just
a
minute.
Jonathan,
if
you
don't
mind,
could
you
share
the
funding
spreadsheet
just
to
show
our
allocations.
E
Sure
so,
unfortunately,
with
working
with
madison
county,
their
channel
application
was
in
a
separate
email
that
did
not
get
seen
until
yesterday,
so
we
have
had
a
chance
to
evaluate
the
chateau
application
from
madison
county.
E
So
hopefully
everyone
can
see
this
screen
here,
originally
that
their
royal
replacement
housing
for
madison
county
for
the
new
construction
there
for
home
ownership
was
a
165
000
request
that
kind
of
just
came
in
in
the
traditional
housing
activity,
those
fundings
we
can
now
move
to
the
choto
set-aside
of
205,
000
614,
so
we'll
have
an
extra
165
000
that
could
be
allocated
for
these
awards
and
we're
about
forty
thousand
six
hundred
and
fourteen
dollars
shy
of
our
choto
limit
for
this
year.
So
I
wanted
to.
E
I
did
email,
the
board
and
vice
chair
the
chair
and
vice
chair
last
night
to
let
him
know
about
this
error.
Chris
watson,
with
madison
county,
has
been
super
great
about,
alerting
us
and
letting
us
know
that
that
application
was
still
out
there
yesterday.
So
we
were
able
to
find
that,
and
so
I
wanted
to
make
sure
everyone
was
aware
of
that.
So
again,
repeating
myself.
E
That
165
is
freed
up
at
the
top
and
can
be
put
into
chudo,
where
we'll
be
left
with
about
forty
thousand
six
hundred
fourteen
thousand
six
hundred
fourteen
dollars
to
allocate
for
a
future
choto
application
if
it
comes
in
or
if
madison
county
decides
to
come
back
with
an
additional
request
if
it
meets
the
parameters.
E
Staff's
recommendation,
if
we
would
have
known
this
before
yesterday,
would
most
likely
have
been
just
for
the
board's
knowledge
is
to
divide
off
that
165
to
the
four
tax
credit
allocations
that
we
awarded
so
an
approximate.
What
is
that
about?
Forty
thousand
forty
one
thousand
two
hundred
fifty
dollars
to
each
one,
but
as
I
alluded
last
night
in
my
email
to
sage
and
robin,
we
will
let
you
all
take
a
look
at
that
this
morning
and
other
than
that.
E
I've
got
the
presentation
schedule
up
and
we
have
allotted
three
minutes
for
each
of
the
applications
applicants
to
do
a
verbal
presentation
this
morning
and
I
can
move
on
to
those
presentations.
If
you
would
like.
E
All
right-
and
I
have
the
presentation
schedule
ready
to
go
so
the
first
one
up
would
be
the
commonwealth
development
corporation
of
america
with
their
fair
haven
summit
project.
I've
got
the
timer
for
three
minutes
and
again
we
just
asked
that
one
representative
on
mute
for
the
presentation
and
then
everyone
else
remain
on
mute
and
I
will
start
the
clock
when
you
start
speaking
thanks.
So
much.
Q
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
paul.
My
name
is
sean
brady,
I'm
the
vice
president
of
development
at
commonwealth
development
corporation.
I
appreciate
this
opportunity.
Commonwealth
is
one
of
the
top
20
developers
of
affordable
housing
in
the
country,
we're
vertically
integrated
company
with
design
development,
construction
management
services
and
have
developed
our
team.
Our
southwest
team
has
developed
over
which,
I
believe,
has
developed
over
600
units
of
affordable
housing
in
north
carolina.
Q
Fair
haven
summit
is
located
in
the
the
southern
part
within
the
city,
limits
of
asheville
locations,
3124
and
3130
sweden,
creek
road,
we're
proposing
77
units
of
affordable
housing
using
income
averaging
from
thirty
percent
ami
to
eighty
percent
ami
targeting
families,
and
currently,
according
to
market
study
that
came
back
very
favorably,
we
have
a
just
a
three
percent
capture
rate,
which
is
very
strong
demand
indication
supported,
supported
our
rents
and
also
there's
not
a
lot
of
family,
targeted,
senior
housing
or
any
senior
housing
at
the
80
percent
ami
level
in
the
market
area.
Q
Our
funding
request
appreciate
this
opportunity
is,
to
frankly,
cover
construction
costs
which
are
high,
we're
high
at
the
time
of
application
and
continue
to
go
up.
We
are
projecting,
though,
we're
requesting
a
cash
flow
repayment
terms
to
to
avoid
lowering
our
permanent
debt
proceeds,
but
we
are
also
projecting
that
we
can
repay
our
loan
from
available
cash
flow
with
interest.
I
think
we
showed
about
a
four
percent
interest
rate,
which
is
very
good
in
in
today's
environment.
Q
Q
But
we
are,
we
believe,
it's
very
competitive
application
and
we
are
in
intending
to
make
this
our
top
priority
in
the
competitive
round.
E
Great,
thank
you
so
much
sean
question
for
sage
and
robin
did
you
want
to
ask
questions
now
or
allow
all
the
presentations
to
happen?
Make
some
notes
and
come
back
for
questions
at
the
end?
What
would
the
preference
be.
Q
Ahead,
three
minutes
obviously
skipped
over
a
lot
in
the
presentation,
but
I'm
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
any
kind
of
questions
and
what
other,
whatever
detail?
The
committee
would
like.
J
Sean
this
is
matt
cable
with
bunking
county.
Can
you
just
speak
to
the
per
unit
cost
I'm
looking
at
that
compared
to
some
of
the
other
projects?
It's
I'm
about.
I
would
say
about
forty
thousand
dollars
more
per
unit
and
I
think
it
has
to
do
with
the
bedroom.
You
know
the
one
two
three
bedroom
combo,
but
can
you
just
speak
to
the
costs
that
might
be
driving
that
a
little
higher
than
the
other
projects.
Q
Yeah,
absolutely
that's
a
that's
a
great
question.
The
three
bedrooms
do
add
to
the
total
per
unit
cost
the
other
factor.
Q
That's
a
challenge
is
probably
not
new
in
asheville
is
the
site
work
cost
that
location
is
a
great
location
with
a
lot
of
amenities,
nearby,
excellent
visibility
in
good
transportation,
accessibility,
but
the
challenge
is
for
a
property,
that's
already
zoned
for
its
intended
use
of
multi-family,
I
think
or
rm16
the
the
topography
is
going
to
require
to
be,
quite
frankly,
some
retaining
walls
in
order
to
make
the
to
make
the
unit
count,
work
and
and
that's
what's
driving
our
construction
cost
is
site,
work,
cost.
Q
But
that's
a
that's
an
excellent
question,
we're
doing
what
we
can.
I
know.
We've
gone
through
some
revisions
in
our
on
our
site
plan
trying
to
get
those
numbers
down,
but
unfortunately
that's
been
kind
of
counteracted
by
the
rise
in
materials
such
as
lumber
that
you
may
have
heard
of
it's.
It's
it's
hitting
everything
everywhere.
J
E
All
right
thanks
sean,
we'll
call
up
the
next
group
sage,
which
would
be
the
community
housing
coalition
of
madison
county
rural
replacement,
and
I
believe
chris
watson
this
morning.
R
Good
morning,
thank
you.
Chris
watson
program,
director
at
community
housing
coalition
of
madison
county
we're
requesting
165
thousand
dollars
in
enchoto
funding
to
start
a
rural
replacement
housing
program.
This
program
builds
on
our
20
years
of
rural
repair
programs
here
in
madison
county
and
creates
a
new
program
that
meets
a
growing
need
where
we
need
to
replace
houses
that
are
too
dilapidated
for
folks
to
live
in,
but
they
they
are
living
in
them.
R
They
have
no
other
choices
in
housing,
but
they
do
have
assets
such
as
they
own
the
land,
and
we
completed
a
pilot
project
in
the
fall
with
a
modular
home
that
was
donated
to
chc,
and
we
were
able
to
replace
a
dilapidated
mobile
home
and
move
a
disabled
woman
into
this
new
home
through
the
use
of
some
rural
rehab
dollars,
as
well
as
some
other
leveraged
funding,
and
we
really
you
know
in
talking
to
other
communities
around
the
region.
This
is
a
huge
need
and
we
really
want
to
create
a
program.
R
C
Chris,
this
is
andrew
from
buncombe
county.
If
I
can
ask
a
question
and
the
program
you're
describing
is
one
that
we've
had
a
lot
of
interest
in
replicating
in
our
area.
I'd
assume
some
of
our
other
counties
that
have
a
lot
of
world
populations
do
as
well.
We
we
administer
home
repair
programs
and,
as
you
mentioned,
those
prepare
programs
are
often
immediate
in
nature,
but
we've
just
run
into
an
awful
lot
of
cases
of
people
who
own
their
own
land
and
own
a
home
and
really
can't
be
served
by
a
10
to
15
000
repair.
C
C
My
question
is
a
little
granular,
but
in
terms
of
the
home
funds
and
how
you
structure
this,
I
guess
this
agreement
with
the
individual
homeowners
is
this
going
to
be?
Is
there
any
excuse
me?
Is
there
going
to
be
any
kind
of
forgivable
lien
placed
on
the
home?
Is
it
going
to
be
immediately
granted?
How
are
you
going
to
structure
this
for
the
homeowners
and
do
you
think
that
they
will
be
be
open
to
potentially
putting
debt
on
their
house
so.
R
Yeah,
those
are
those
are
great
questions
and
things.
We've
we've
talked
a
lot
about.
You
know
my
understanding
and
we're
a
little
new
to
new
housing
construction
using
home
funds,
which
are
a
little
different
than
using
them
for
rehab.
R
R
You
know
secure
the
property,
with
a
deed
of
trust,
for
a
15-year
period
of
affordability,
but
we're
also
you
know
part
of
this
program
is
you
know,
we're
looking
at
three
houses
over
two
years,
but
really
looking
at
long-term
affordability
and
maybe
structuring
each
of
these
projects
a
little
differently.
So
we
can
ensure
that
that
see
if
there's
a
way
to
to
incorporate
a
model
that
that
makes
these
units
affordable
beyond
the
15
years.
R
You
know
we
have
we've
been
told
ever
since
I
started
people
aren't
going
to
want
to
do
put
liens
on
their
properties
and
leans
on
their
homes,
because
it's
often
generational
land
and
we
ran
into
that.
We
implemented
the
state's
essential
single
family
program,
which
requires
a
nine
year
deal
of
trust
lien
on
the
home,
and
we
have
had
no
hesitation
from
from
clients
on
doing
that.
And
so
that's
been
a
really
good.
C
Yeah
and
chris,
I
want
to
be
clear:
I'm
not
in
favor
of
program
income
from
this
type
of
work
at
all
we've
long
ago,
in
the
past,
buncombe
county
did
some
work
like
this
and
structure,
as
you
mentioned,
either
a
15-year
period
that
was
partially
forgiven
or
forgiven
at
the
end,
but
did
not
place
any
kind
of
debt
burden.
I
think
what
that
was
was
to
secure.
C
You
know
these
individuals
wouldn't
turn
around
and
sell
the
home
that
we
built
in
a
year,
but
we
also
wouldn't
disable
them,
and
you
know
my
experience
and
I
think
maybe
with
some
others
as
well
as
often
these
are
elderly
individuals
as
well,
who,
in
some
cases,
don't
live
out
through
the
whole
lifespan
of
it.
But
you
know
I
just
want
to
be
clear.
C
I
really
like
the
program
and
would
love
to
follow
up
with
you
guys
if
you're
interested,
I
can
show
you
some
of
the
the
agreements
that
we've
drafted
in
the
past,
but
again
just
really
really
like
this
program,
and
I
love
that
you
guys
are
doing
it.
R
And
I'll
just
say
that
we
are
kind
of
you
know.
This
is
a
new
chapter
for
us,
but
we,
you
know
this.
This
program
design
is
a
culmination
of
of
working
over
the
past
year
with
jeff
stoddinger
as
a
consultant
to
help
us
design
this
program
and
bring
that
expertise
of
of
homeownership
and
long-term
affordability.
So
we
feel
really
confident
in
doing
that.
Thank
you,
andrew.
B
So,
chris,
I
have
a
question
for
you
and
I
too
am
really
excited
about
you,
bringing
this
model
to
madison
county
and
know
firsthand
the
need
for
replacement
homes
and
not
just
rehab.
You
saw
from
paul's
presentation
earlier
that
there's
a
remaining
40,
some
thousand
dollars
of
choto
funds
and
it
looks
like
you've
requested
about
55
000
per
unit.
B
If,
ultimately,
in
the
course
of
this
year,
we
will
have
to
award
that
remaining
forty
thousand
dollars
to
a
choto
and,
and
there
aren't
that
many
within
the
home
consortium
area.
You
know
my
question
to
you
is:
do
you
think
that
you
could
eke
out
another
unit
with
that
40
or
fundraise
to
make
up
the
difference
from
that
forty
thousand
dollars.
R
Yeah
I've
been
thinking
about
it
over
the
past
day
when
we
just
kind
of
got
these
numbers,
and
I
think
that,
having
you
know
we're
looking
at
a
fifty
five
thousand
dollars
per
unit
and
asking
and
then
having
another.
Forty
thousand
dollars
makes
a
really
strong,
compelling
argument
to
our
funders
to
say
you
know
if
we
can
find.
D
R
Fifteen
thousand
dollars,
then
we
can
get
this
forty
thousand
dollars,
and
so
you
know
it's
still
part
of
the
program
that
we're
working
through
is
the
other
funding
mechanisms
to
complete
the
unit.
You
know
because
we're
looking
at
75
to
125
000
of
cost
per
unit,
and
so
you
know,
I
think,
that's
people
always
love
to
see,
matches
funders,
always
love
to
see
match,
and
it's
and-
and
so
I
think
we
would
we
could
be.
S
Hi
everyone
I'm
sarah
dickerson.
I
am
the
director
of
the
essa
program
at
elida
homes
and
for
the
home
application.
This
year
we
are
requesting
20
208
dollars
to
serve
18
to
24
year
olds,
who
are
unaccompanied
transitioning
age,
youth
who
are
classified
as
either
homeless
or
at
imminent
risk
of
homelessness.
S
We
have
been
providing
our
allied
students,
training
for
advancement
services
for
14
years
now,
helping
youth
who
are
aging
out
of
the
foster
care,
mental
health
or
juvenile
justice
systems
to
reach
independence.
Despite
the
barriers
they've
faced,
48
of
all
youth
who
age
out
of
the
foster
care
system
become
homeless
within
three
years,
oftentimes
those
youth
go
on
to
become
chronically
homeless
population.
S
With
this
program,
we're
looking
to
provide
security
deposits
and
three
months
rent
to
10
households,
we're
also
looking
to
provide
additional
security
deposit
only
to
those
who
are
entering
into
public
housing
with
our
population.
We
work
with
62
percent
of
our
youth,
who
are
african-american
or
hispanic
and
within
that
population
we
are
also
working
with
78,
who
are
lacking
stable
housing
when
they
come
to
us
78,
who
are
early
parenting,
71
percent,
who
are
court
involved
88,
who
have
mental
health
diagnoses
and
77
percent,
who
come
out
of
the
foster
care
system.
S
These
youth
have
substantial
barriers
in
their
way
on
top
of
that
and
the
postcoded
environment
that
we're
in
now,
youth
are
one
of
8
000
people
in
buncombe
county
who
are
looking
to
become
employed
with
that.
They
are
bringing
in
very
little
experience
when
they
apply
for
a
job
and
are
competing
against
people
who
sometimes
have
18
to
24
years
worth
of
experience
when
it
comes
to
housing,
they're
applying
for
a
unit
where
there
might
be
three
to
five
other
applicants
who
have
established
credit
scores
and
established
rental
histories.
S
B
I
have
a
quick
question
sasha.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
I
understood
you
correctly.
Did
you
say
that
these
funds
would
be
used
to
help
pay
security
deposits
for
your
people
moving
into
the
housing
authority.
S
Yes,
so
we
are
looking
to
do
a
dual
approach
with
our
tenant-based
rental
assistance.
We
know
that
we
can't
pay
rental
assistance
for
those
going
into
housing,
assistance
or
public
housing,
because
that
would
be
double
dipping,
but
we
got
some
clarification
and
you
know
if
this
isn't
correct.
You
know
we
can
readjust,
but
we
got
some
clarification
saying
that
these
funds
could
be
used
for
that
security
deposit,
which
is
a
huge
burden
on
these
youth
when
they
are
trying
to.
S
You
know,
be
able
to
secure
transportation
and
be
starting
a
new
job
and
with
many
of
them
parenting.
So
it
allows
them
to
have
one
less
worry
when
they're
going
into
public
housing,
but
we
are
also
providing
for
10
youth,
the
security
deposit
and
three
months,
rental
assistance
for
traditional
housing.
Okay,.
G
S
We
applied
for
several
different
pots
of
funding
this
last
year
for
funding
rounds
and
with
some
of
the
covid
extension
expansion
funds
this
last
year.
So
we
have
been
approved
to
get
home
funds
from
the
previous
round
of
funding.
However,
those
contracts
have
not
been
executed
yet,
and
those
would
have
been
our
first
time
doing
those,
but
we've
now
had
a
year
of
working
closely
with
emily
ball.
S
Who
is
the
one
who
works
with
us
as
our
representative
and
working
closely
within
the
coordinated
assessment
meeting
with
you
know,
individuals
from
help
me
and
from
homeward
bound
and
learning
from
them
and
working
on
getting
this
up
and
running
so
right
now,
we've
had
lots
of
time
to
be
able
to
go
and
meet
with
landlords.
S
J
Sasha,
this
is
matt
cable
with
buncombe
county.
Just
for
some
clarity.
Looking
at
your
total
project
budget,
when
you
indicated
you
know,
10
individuals
will
be
assisted.
Is
that
10
individuals
just
from
the
home
funding
and
there
there's
an
additional
pool
beyond
that
with
the
rest
of
the
budget?
Can
you
speak
to
kind
of
the
whole
number
of
anticipated
recipients
of
support
through
the
program.
S
Yes,
so
the
10
is
from
home
funding
for
2021
funding
requests.
Only
our
previous
home
request
was
17
households,
sorry
14
households.
S
In
total,
for
the
2020
fiscal
year
funding
requests,
we
were
looking
to
serve
33
families.
I
don't
have
right
in
front
of
me
what
our
total
request
was
for
the
2021
funding
request,
but
I
do
know
we
increased
it
from
that
33,
but
not
significantly.
My
best
guess
would
be
that
it
was
35
or
36
households
and
those
are
by
household.
Many
of
our
youth
are
parenting.
So
most
of
those
households
are
two
or
more
family.
E
Right
next
up,
we've
got
helpmate
with
rental
assistance
for
domestic
violence.
Survivors.
U
Good
morning,
everyone
are
you
able
to
hear
me.
Okay,
we.
U
Thank
you
so
I'm
april
burgess
johnson,
I'm
the
executive
director
for
helpmate,
we're
a
non-profit,
that's
provided
safety,
shelter
and
support
to
survivors
of
domestic
violence.
Here
in
buncombe
county
for
42
years,
we
offer
an
emergency
shelter
plus
a
host
of
supportive
services,
including
housing,
specific
case
management.
U
Although
this
is
our
first
application
for
home
funding,
we're
completing
our
fourth
year
of
administering
rental
assistance
funding,
including
through
other
programs
like
the
emergency
solutions
grant,
including
that
covid
specific
allocation
they
had
this
year,
the
office
of
violence
against
women
through
the
u.s
department
of
justice
and
the
hud
continuum
of
care
program
combined.
These
programs
represent
nearly
a
quarter
of
helpmates
budget,
which
is
evidence
of
our
commitment
to
this
important
work.
U
We
choose
to
engage
in
housing
work
because
we
know
that
domestic
violence
is
a
leading
cause
of
homelessness
among
women
and
girls,
and
it's
a
significant
contributor
to
childhood
poverty
and
hunger,
lack
of
available
shelter
and
housing
for
domestic
violence.
Survivors
correlates
with
high
rates
of
domestic
violence,
homicides,
which
is
important
because
over
a
10-year
span,
welcome
county
consistently
ranks
among
the
top
three
counties
in
north
carolina
for
domestic
violence
related
death.
U
U
Last
year,
we
sheltered
215
people
from
147
families,
which
is
a
22
percent
increase
over
the
prior
year,
but
due
to
lack
of
space,
we
had
to
refer
295
families
twice
as
many
as
we
sheltered
to
other
local
communities,
so
we're
exporting
victims
from
buncombe
county
into
the
often
smaller
counties
around
us.
These
are
the
highest
needs
of
our
families
in
our
community.
U
92
percent
of
the
people
that
we
shelter
at
extreme
risk
of
homicide,
98
or
low
income
very
low
income,
40
percent
of
people
are
are
people
of
color
and
12
percent
are
disabled
to
address.
This
overwhelming
need
we're
growing
our
housing
programs
so
that
those
families
who
don't
need
the
extreme
level
of
security,
that's
provided
by
our
emergency
shelter,
can
get
quickly
housed
in
the
community,
escape
their
abusive
situations
and
set
up
new
safe
homes.
U
Last
year,
we
provided
housing
through
just
rapid
rehousing
through
the
emergency
solutions,
grant
that
sliver
of
our
funding
housed
11
people.
A
hundred
percent
of
those
have
retained
housing
for
more
than
six
months,
and
a
hundred
percent
who
have
been
in
housing
for
more
than
a
year
have
retained
it
for
over
a
year,
our
request
for
three
hundred
and
nine
thousand
dollars,
912
309
thousand
nine
hundred
twelve
dollars.
Goodness
that's
a
mouthful
it'll
help
us
to
house
another
25
families
which
includes
51
people,
adults
and
children.
U
C
April
april,
I
have
one
quick
question.
This
is
andrew
and
I
think
I'll-
I
guess
forgive
me
if
this
is
answering
your
application.
We've
had
conversations
recently
about.
I
think
what
you
described
as
a
phenomenon
of
of
I
guess,
an
increased
need
during
coded
and
often
people
being
abused,
staying
with
the
abuser
because
of
housing,
instability
and
not
being
able
to
access
housing
until
hopefully
they
get
through
this
this
pandemic.
But
my
question
is,
I
think,
came
from
the
conversation
we
had.
C
U
We
would
love
to
be
able
to
support
people
who
are
able
to
move
out
of
buncombe
county
to
do
that.
Honestly,
it's
hard
to
find,
as
you
know,
it's
hard
to
find
available
units
here
in
buncombe
county.
So
when
people
have
the
flexibility
to
be
housed
in
surrounding
counties,
then
we
absolutely
support
them
with
the
search
and
the
placement
process
and
we'll
continue
to
provide
wrap-around
services
to
them
for
as
long
as
they
continue
to
want
or
need
those
services.
U
I'm
glad
that
you
talked
that
you
kind
of
raised
the
question
about
covid
impact.
We've
seen
very
honey.
Folks,
come
to
our
shelter.
We've
seen
our
shelter
requests
go
way
way
up
this
year
and
we've
seen
the
need
for
housing
programs
to
go
up
this
year
and
that's
even
though
domestic
violence
survivors
have
been.
U
You
know
during
the
the
various
state
home
orders
kind
of
trapped
inside
their
homes,
with
their
batterers,
often
without
the
escape
of
work
or
school
for
the
kids,
and
there
was
an
article
that
came
out
last
month
in
time
magazine
that
talked
about
the
shadow
pandemic,
that
how
a
lot
of
domestic
violence
survivors
are
just
sort
of
knuckling
down
and
and
dealing
with
the
abuse,
because
they've
been
scared
for
their
health
to
be
able
to
leave
and
as
vaccines
become
more
widely
available
and
and
folks
become
more
mobile
and
the
unemployment
rate
starts
to
go
down
and
people
are
able
to
get
employed,
then
survivors
are
leaving
in
higher
and
higher
numbers.
U
B
U
P
April
this
is
kate
hayes.
I
think
you
mentioned
that
that
was
budgeted
for
six
months
of
rental
assistance
in
that
project.
U
Yes,
we
have
budgeted
six
months
of
rental
assistance,
utilities,
moving
expenses,
security
deposits
and
and
a
little
bit
of
money
for
arrears
in
case.
That's
the
barrier
that
allows
folks
to
get
into
housing.
Okay,.
P
G
P
Sorry
so
april,
I'm
just
wondering
would
a
would
a
shorter
time
of
rental
assistance,
be
meaningful
for
those
people
you're
serving
as
well,
or
is
six
months
kind
of
your
your
target
for
who
you're
serving.
U
We
know
that
especially
domestic
violence
survivors
when
they
first
come
to
us,
there's
often
court
proceedings
that
are
going
on
they're
having
to
find
not
just
new
housing
but
often
new
child
care,
and
you
know,
address
all
of
those
other
surrounding
issues
that
are
impacted
by
that
battering
experience
that
they've
had,
and
our
worry
is
that
if
we
do
too
short
of
a
duration
of
assistance
that
it'll
negatively
impact
families,
you
know
if
you've
got
court
dates
every
week
for
a
month
and
a
half,
then
it's
really
hard
to
have
sustainable
employment
that
produces
enough
wage
to
meet
your
your
rental
obligations
and
your
other
financial
needs
for
your
household.
U
H
Yeah,
I
think
I
think,
kate
actually
asked
the
question
I
was
going
to
ask.
I
do
I
do
want
to
say
first
of
all,
helpmate
does
great
work
in
the
community.
I
I
know
that.
Thank.
F
H
Glad
that
you're
here
today,
I'm
really
excited
to
see
that
you
know
you've
submitted
an
application
for
consideration.
The
number's
really
big,
three
hundred
thousand,
that's
okay,
because
it's
a
big
need.
I
was
I
was
just
thinking
through
and
kate
asked
this,
but
so
that
300
000
will
serve
25
families
for
a
period
of
six
months.
H
So
that's
about.
If
I
did
the
math
right
about
two
thousand
dollars
per
family
per
month.
I
think
I'm
a
planner,
so
I'm
not
the
best
at
math.
All
the
time
is
there
is
there?
Is
there
instances
where?
Maybe
that
that
can
that
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
go
go
further
than
six
months
for
some
families?
I
mean.
T
H
U
Absolutely
so,
yes,
we
always
determine
rental
assistance
amounts
based
on
the
need
for
the
family,
and
so
we've
got
that
paste
out.
I'm
sorry,
my
screen
has
frozen
so
now.
I
can't
see
the
number
of
how
many
bedroom
units
we
had,
but
we
paced
it
out
to
have
essentially
a
number
of
three-bedroom,
two-bedroom
and
one-bedroom
houses
and
various
costs
that
are
associated
with
that.
We
use
fair
market
rent
to
come
up
with
that
structure,
and
so
that's
sort
of
how
we
arrived
at
the
budget.
F
E
All
right
next
up
is
homeward
bound.
They
have
the
next
three
presentations.
Perhaps
if
it
works
for
the
consortium,
they
can
talk
about
their
tenant-based
rental
assistance
for
asheville
and
then
buncombe
county
take
questions
there
and
then
talk
about
their
permanent,
supportive
housing.
After
that.
V
Hello,
I'm
nicole
brown,
I'm
our
the
deputy
director
programs
and
strategy
for
homeward
bound
and
we
are
requesting
80
000
to
end
homelessness,
for
30,
chronic,
individual
or
chronic
households,
and
then
for
home
bunkum
we're
requesting
a
hundred
thousand
to
end
homelessness
for
16
households
we
provide
and
one
of
the
only
providers
of
permanent
supportive
housing
for
the
highest
needs
population
in
our
community.
These
are
folks
experiencing
chronic
homelessness,
meaning
they've
been
outside
or
in
a
shelter
for
a
year
or
longer
and
have
significant
disabilities.
V
We
recently
have
received
some
funding
with
the
cares
act
for
rapid
rehousing,
which
is
short-term
assistance,
but
we
do
not
have
enough
funding
for
this
long-term
rental
assistance
and
support
for
this
high
needs
population,
and
we,
the
only
other
funding
for
this,
is
our
hud
coc
grants
which
we
are
fully
maximizing
at
this
point
and
do
not
have
room
to
expand.
So
this
funding
is
essential
for
us
to
be
able
to
house
this
really
high
needs
population.
V
We
currently
have
over
220
chronically
homeless
individuals
in
our
community,
and
so
this
would
be
able
to
put
a
little
bit
of
a
dent
in
that
population.
We
will
use
these
funds
to
pay
for
both
security
deposits,
utility
assistance
and
rent
for
these
households
and
specifically
with
the
asheville
home.
V
The
reason
that
we
are
serving
more
households
with
less
money
is
because
we
will
be
partnering
with
the
housing
authority
to
provide
deposit
assistance
with
the
lack
of
affordable
housing
in
our
community,
and
this
partnership
with
the
housing
authority
is
essential
to
get
this
high
needs
population
in
housing.
G
E
Yeah,
I'm
assuming
santiago.
I
Yeah
hi
good
morning,
everybody,
my
name,
is
santiago.
I'm
the
facilities
and
housing
development
director
here
at
homerebound.
Our
mission
is
to
prevent
an
homelessness
through
housing
and
support
and
since
2006
our
philosophy
has
been
housing
first.
So
when
you
provide
a
decent,
safe
place
for
a
person
to
live,
then
you
can
take
care
of
other
necessities
of
life
after
that.
I
So
for
a
couple
of
years
now
a
homeward
bound
has
been
looking
for
a
site
or
property
to
develop
a
80
85
unit
complex
with
again
80
85
per
minutes
for
your
housing
units
with
on-site
24
7
staff
that
can
provide
a
wraparound
services,
supportive
services
and
security
and
any
other
supportive
services
that
are
necessary
for
these
folks
to
be
successful
at
maintaining
these
housing
units
and
again
taking
care
of
their
needs
in
life.
I
As
a
lot
of
you
may
know,
already,
we
have
been
under
contract
to
purchase
a
basin
hotel
on
tunnel
road,
and
we
have
applied
for
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
home
funds
to
help
us
with
the
renovations,
slash
construction
stage
of
these
developments.
Again,
the
the
conflicts
will
have
85
a
permanent
40
supported
housing
units.
There
are
efficiencies
with
also
space
for
staff
offices
for
staff,
supportive
case
managers,
other
administrative
staff
and
also
space
for
other
community
service
providers
to
come
in
and
provide
services
on
our
frequent
basis.
I
I
I
hope,
that's
kind
of
on
a
nutshell.
I
don't
know
I'll
be
happy
to
take
any
questions.
L
E
I
will,
with
that
we'd
go
on
into
the
housing
authority
of
the
city
of
asheville
for
their
tenant-based
rental
assistance.
O
G
W
Hear
you
hello,
hi,
so
sorry
about
not
having
an
actual
camera
up
here
but
good
morning
my
name
is
alex
ruiz.
I'm
the
tenant
outreach
coordinator
with
the
housing
authority
of
the
city
of
asheville,
while
the
housing
authority
has
been
requesting
and
administering
this
project
for
several
years
now.
W
Funds
will
be
used
to
assist
our
residents
in
exercising
mobility
options
which
would
allow
them
to
access
the
housing
of
their
choice,
hopefully
moving
them
from
areas
of
concentrated
poverty
in
the
project-based
voucher
developments
into
more
high
opportunity
areas
in
the
private
rental
market,
with
their
tenant-based
vouchers.
This
would
be
achieved
by
providing
them
with
gap,
funding
for
security
deposits
and
utility
deposits
gap
funding
to
our
voucher
holders.
W
This
go
around
will
be
made
available
up
to
for
an
amount
of
up
to
one
thousand
dollars
for
one
and
two
bedroom
households,
as
well
as
efficiencies
and
fifteen
hundred
dollars
for
three
bedroom
households
and
larger
by
assisting
our
tenant-based
voucher
holders,
primarily
those
coming
out
of
our
public
housing
units.
Directly.
W
With
this
funding,
we
will
expand
opportunities
for
approximately
80
households
with
limited
financial
means
and
other
challenges
to
access
private
market
rental
units
in
higher
opportunity,
neighborhoods
and
as
these
tenant-based
voucher
holders
move
into
private
market
units
and
out
of
the
project-based
voucher
units,
those
approximately
80
units
would
that
are
being
vacated,
would
then
be
freed
up
for
others
on
the
housing
authority's
public
housing.
Wait
list
for
reference
in
terms
of
the
level
of
need
for
this
kind
of
assistance.
W
The
housing
authority
has
administered
similar
tbra
funds
in
the
past
and
has
never
had
any
difficulty
in
expending
them
for
all
the
eligible
applicants
and
while
using
some
funding
from
the
federal
cares
act
for
this
purpose.
In
the
last
year,
we
successfully
funded
some
92
households
between
july
of
2020
and
january
of
2021
totaling
over
114
000.
In
assistance
and
the
need
was
still
not
entirely
met
for
all
households.
W
We
are
hoping
that,
with
the
new
caps
of
one
thousand
dollars
and
fifteen
hundred
dollars
respectively,
we'll
be
able
to
spread
that
assistance
across
a
greater
number
of
households
who
are
pursuing
their
mobility
options.
Thank
you,
so
much
and
I'll
be
glad
to
answer
any
questions
to
the
best
of
my
abilities.
C
This
is
andrew.
I
have
a
question
that
may
be
better
addressed
by
city
of
nashville
staff
and
it
pertains
to,
I
think,
all
the
rental
assistance
applications.
I
think
most
people
are
still
trying
to
digest.
What's
in
this
recently
passed
stimulus,
but
some
of
the
earlier
points
I
saw
was
that
there
was
a
great
deal
of
money
anticipated.
C
I
saw
potentially
20
billion
for
emergency
rental
assistance,
5
billion
for
emergency
housing
vouchers
for
those
experiencing
homelessness
and
other
funds
that
may
flow
down,
and
we
don't
know
yet
how
that
will
appear
in
local
communities.
C
But
what's
your
feeling,
I
guess
emily
and
brian
husky
of
what
resources
may
be
coming
that
affect
rental
assistance
in
our
community
and
it's
not
to
say
that
we
don't
really
merit
any
of
these
or
rate
any
of
these
other
projects,
but
could
there
perhaps
be
funding
coming
that
could
support
this
that
that
may
not
that,
may
I
guess,
free
up
some
home
funding.
C
X
Thank
you
so
much
hey,
I'm
not
sure.
If
brian
is
on
this
call,
but
I
think
that's
a
good
question
and
I
speaking
for
myself,
I
think
the
answer
is,
I
don't
know
yet
we
don't
know.
I
think
it
is
exactly
right
that
we
have
a
major
opportunity
on
the
horizon
with
a
lot
of
federal
funding
that
can
do
similar
activity.
X
I
would
say
we
also
have
a
major
need
in
our
community,
so
I
don't
know
that
my
own
recommendation
would
be.
You
know
treating
that
as
sort
of
a
replacement
opportunity,
but
I
I
guess
ultimately
I
think
we
just
don't
have
enough
information
yet
to
really
answer
that
question.
J
This
is
matt
cable
again,
I
did
have
a
question,
and
this
is
again
I
think,
for
city
staff.
Just
on
this
project
and
looking
at
the
packet
of
materials,
there
was
missing
budgetary
documentation
so
that
we
could
get
an
idea
of
the
full
scope
of
the
budget.
Did
you
receive
that?
And
can
you
speak
to
that?
You
know
either
the
applicant
or
the
city
staff.
E
E
J
Sure
in
the
in
the
packet
of
documents
we
were
able
to
download
for
each
of
the
applications.
There
was
a
document,
so
we
were
able
to
see
the
full
budgetary
documents
kind
of
for
each
project
that
showed
the
full
scope
to
the
budget
and
how
the
home
funds
worked
into
that,
and
there
was
a
file
indicating
missing
budgetary
documents
that
the
city
had
requested
budgetary
documentation
from
the
agency
and
they
had
submitted
a
financial
audit,
but
that
the
city
staff
was
going
to
be
requesting
budgetary
documents
to
try
to
complete
the
application.
A
So
all
that
so
for
the
board,
members
and
exact,
if
you
scroll
down
in
the
application
form
everything
that
we
have
received
was
down
there.
So
from
my
understanding
and
things
that
were
sent
in
from
the
agency,
there
were
no
additional
materials
that
were
had
been
received
after
initially
requesting.
W
If
that
was
the
case,
I
do
apologize.
I
I
understood
that
the
we
were
still
waiting
on
some
budgetary
documents
when
the
application
due
date
did
occur.
W
And
I
understood
that
it
had
been
sent
in.
I
am
absolutely
happy
to
shoot
off
a
couple
of
emails,
make
some
phone
calls
and
see
if
that
was
not
properly
sent.
I
know
it
was
sent
after
the
fact,
but.
A
I
am
going
to
look
further
into
their
their
project
file
and
just
re
go
through
some
of
those,
but
at
the
time
of
compiling
all
of
these
documents,
for
you
guys,
those
were
not
there.
A
Yes,
yes,
correct.
Did
that
answer
the
questions.
J
So
yeah
my
question
that,
just
in
terms
of
evaluating
kind
of
the
whole
of
the
project
scope
and
how
these
funds
interplay
with
other
grants
or
other
funding
and
what
the
total
project
impact
is
it's
a
little
difficult
without
having
that
summary
document.
But
if
there's
something
that
would
give
us
that
scope
or
information
that
would
be
helpful.
G
Thank
you,
matthew
for
bringing
this
up.
It
sounds
like
there.
It
may
have
been
received
christina
if
you're
able
to
locate
that
while
we
go
through
the
rest
of
the
presentations
that
would
be
helpful
and
to
the
applicant.
If
you
need
to
email
with
christina
real
quick
and
make
sure
she
has
it.
That
would
be
helpful
as
well.
All
right
will.
W
E
All
right
next
up
is
scg
development
partners
with
their
development
avada
at
ascension
tax
credit
development.
Y
Great,
thank
you
so
much.
I
really
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
tell
you
more
about
this
proposed:
affordable
senior
housing
development
ovada
at
ascension,
the
proposed
development.
It's
going
to
be
located
on
new
leicester,
highway
at
ascension
drive
in
front
of
the
meadows
apartment,
which
is
a
market
rate,
multi-family
property
that
we
also
manage
the
development
team.
It's
a
collaboration
between
scg
development
and
nhe.
We
manage
five
large
apartment
communities
in
asheville
a
little
bit
more
about
our
experience.
Y
We
do
have
experience
with
previous
9
tax
credit
awards
in
both
south
carolina
and
north
carolina
and
experience
with
hud
environmental
clearance
related
to
home
and
national
housing
trust
fund
a
little
bit
more
about
the
proposed
development.
It
is
a
multi-family
apartment,
building
with
89
apartment
units
for
households
over
55
years
of
age.
The
apartments
will
be
available
to
rent
to
households
at
an
average
of
60
area,
median
income
and
below.
Y
But
this
project
will
utilize.
Income
averaging
at
23
of
the
units
will
be
set
at
30
ami,
which
are
the
most
vulnerable
households
that
are
in
desperate
need
of
housing
that
truly
is
affordable
to
their
income
range
and
52
units.
Will
be
at
80
percent
ami,
so
a
mixture
of
that
higher
end
and
lower
end,
affordable
housing,
for
example,
the
rents
will
range
from
three
hundred
and
twenty
dollars
to
eleven
hundred
and
twenty
dollars
so
really
serving
a
wide
variety
of
households.
Y
One
hundred
percent
of
the
units
are
going
to
be
designated
as
affordable
housing
and
they
will
qualify
for
low-income
housing.
Tax
credits
and
this
site
has
also
been
submitted
as
part
of
the
nine
percent
tax
credit
application
round.
This
is
an
infill
site.
There
is
an
existing
bus,
stop
at
the
bottom
of
the
hill
and
another
bus
stop
across
the
street,
which
will
be
a
great
benefit
and
amenity
to
the
seniors
and
households
that
are
in
need
of
affordable
housing.
Y
The
site
is
zoned,
properly
rm16
and
highway.
Business
multi-family
is
an
allowable
use
among
the
89
units.
10
of
them
will
be
ada,
that's
american,
with
disability,
accessible
units,
and
nine
of
them
will
be
part
of
the
key
program
which
is
units
that
serve
30
ami,
which
are
the
most
vulnerable
and
lowest
income,
and
they
will
be
recommended
from
the
north
carolina
department,
health
and
human
services,
which
all
of
the
households
recommended
for
these
units
will
be
receiving
ssi
benefits
so
so
really
needy
and
vulnerable
populations.
Y
As
we
all
know,
the
affordable
housing
shortage
in
asheville
and
buncombe
county
is
pretty
severe,
and
this
will
help
relieve
some
of
those
housing
pressures.
These
units
will
remain
affordable
for
30
to
35
years
and
likely
longer
with
a
refinancing
of
the
tax
credits
around
year.
20.
Y
the
need
for
this
a
senior
this
senior,
affordable
housing
is
critical,
as
young
professionals
and
working
folks
begin
to
price
some
of
the
seniors
out
of
the
community
that
they've
always
called
home
senior
housing.
The
need
for
it
grows
every
year,
with
aging
in
place
quickly
about
the
energy
star
and
sustainability.
Y
This
will
be
built
to
the
new
multi-family
energy
star
standards,
and
we
do
typically
incorporate
many
national,
green
building
standard
elements
as
well.
This
is
a
benefit
to
the
environment,
but
also
to
the
residents
themselves
through
lower
power
bills,
and
with
that
I'll
answer,
any
questions
you
may.
G
Lester
lister
lester
any
questions
for
joseph,
though
great.
Thank
you
joseph
thank
you
for
the
next.
We
appreciate
you
being
here.
E
Thank
you.
Next
up,
sage
is
volunteers
of
america
with
laura
woods,
one
and
laura
woods
ii.
Z
Hello,
can
anyone
hear
me.
K
G
K
Z
All
right
good
morning,
so
loaded
with
one
and
lower
two,
it's
basically
the
same
project.
I
don't
want
to
make
that
distinction
here.
We
tried
last
year
to
do
a
nine
percent
we
couldn't
make
it
do
some
side
scoring
issues,
and
so
we
can't
became
creative.
So
we
have
an
existing
prague
property
50
unit,
which
is
loaded
with
one
and
on
the
same
side
we
are
building
a
new
construction
unit.
Building
is
it's
54
units
also
for
senior
housing.
Z
We
are
planning
to
do
income
averaging
here.
It's
for
light
tech,
which
makes
the
project
work
financially
work
as
a
four
percent,
which
is
the
beauty
here.
We
don't
have
to
go
through
the
competitive
round
once
again,
so
it's
pretty
much
if
everything
goes
well,
there's
a
lot
of
certainty
in
the
financing.
If
that's
a
first
statement,
so
we're
looking
at
doing
a
rehab
via
radford,
prac
on
this
existing
50
unit
building,
we
already
started
the
process
with
hud.
Z
Next
steps
would
be
to
when
we
have
the
financing
commitments,
go
through
the
firm
application
and
hud
will
review
and
give
us
about
90
days
for
final
commitment
on
the
right
conversion
and
the
okay
to
close,
so
we're
looking
at
doing
rehab
substantial
rehab,
probably
around
the
60,
to
75
thousand
dollars
that
you
did
there
it's
a
20
year
old
building.
So
there's
a
lot
of
upgrades
to
be
done
also
for
the
54
new
property.
Z
Like
I
said
it's
going
to
be
for
elderly
elderly
population,
only
we
are.
We
were
pre-awarded
from
the
housing
authority
of
asheville
around
12
vouchers,
housing,
choice,
vouchers
for
for
homeless,
so
we're
excited
to
be
working
on
that
and
starting
that
relationship
with
the
housing
authority.
Z
So
as
far
as
what
we're
trying
to
do
as
an
entity,
volunteers
of
america
we're
125
years
in
there's
a
lot
of
conversation
strategically
internally
on
how
to
mix
healthcare
and
housing.
So
we're
gonna
take
this
approach
as
much
as
possible
here
on
this
on
this
project.
Z
Not
only
we're
going
to
have
a
service
coordinator
full
time
for
both
for
the
105
units,
but
also
we
are
looking
at
partnering
with
local
entities
such
as
land
sky
for
community
health
workers
will
also
involve
locally
with
the
with
the
hope
association
which
is
which
is
a
war
group.
Z
That's
led
by
buncombe
county
ali
climbo.
It's
housing
options
for
aging
in
place,
so
we're
looking
at
brainstorming
how
we
can
incorporate
wellness
into
the
senior
population
for
aging
in
place
as
part
of
our
new
developments
and
new
and
rehab
work
that
we're
doing
recently.
We're
trying
to
innovate
include
technology
as
part
of
the
health
well-being
component.
Z
We
can
we're
working
on
adding
wi-fi
to
all
buildings,
in
addition
to
less
google
voice,
for
improving
communications
and
and
providing
that
extra
extra
layer
of
communication,
and
all
your
I
mean
alerts,
reminders,
etc
for
the
senior
population
mainly
and
we're
actively
working
with
different
potential
partners
locally,
to
seek
some
other
solutions
that
we
can
incorporate
into
this
deal
and
hopefully
for
for
future
deals
that
we're
looking
at
in
the
area
for
the
near
for
the
near
term.
G
Z
Z
So
that's
preliminary-
and
we
know
from
scott
farmer
at
ncjfa
that
we
could
get
final
underwriting
done
by
sometime
august
september
this
year
and
we
could
go
then
to
the
board
meeting
for
final
42m
letter
and
one
approval,
one
cap
approval
in
the
january
meeting
and
something
important
also
to
mention
we're
asking
for
900
000
for
the
entire
project.
It's
not
100,
it's
not
a
900
000
per
building
it's
this
is
only
one
project,
so
it's
900
000
for
for
the
entire
project.
J
Rodrigo
this
is
matt
cable
at
buncombe
county
to
be,
you
know,
transparent
with
the
full
consortium.
I
was
looking
at
your
the
budget
information.
You
know
where
it
it
details
the
entire
project,
so
I
was
going
to
ask
for
clarification
on
the
ask
and
that's
helpful
to
know
that
it's
just
the
one
nine
thousand
dollar
ask
through
our
affordable,
h,
housing
services,
program
process.
I'm
aware
that
volunteers
america
has
also
requested
funding
through
that
is
that
reflected
in
the
budget?
I
don't
think
that
it
is.
Are
you
kind
of?
Z
We
we
asking
the
900
from
both
home
and
from
also
from
buncombe
county,
hopefully
hoping
that
if
we
don't
get
the
900
from
one
of
the
two
sources,
we
can
get
probably
partial
commitments
for
from
both.
Z
So
so
that's
where,
where
we
kind
of
where
we're
going,
because
it's
not
it's
not
clear
at
this
point,
whether
we
can
get
a
couple
hundred
here
and
a
couple
hundred
there
on
the
entire
amount
from
one
from
one
of
the
two
sources.
So
we
we
just
put
it
as
a
one.
Big
pile
of
gap,
financing
need
in
our
models
and
that's.
Why
that?
What
we're
trying
to
achieve
here.
J
And
just
as
a
point
of
clarification-
and
you
can
speak
to
this,
some
will
you
for
our
other
regular
lihtc
projects.
That's
a
competitive
process
in
a
different
way
than
the
four
percent
projects
are.
Can
you
speak
to
kind
of
how
how
that
is
different,
considering
that
you
applied
for
the
nine
percent
which
you
didn't
receive
now
you're
going
for
four
percent,
when
you
speak
to
the
differences
in
the
competitive
nature
of
those
two
programs.
Z
Well,
nine
percent,
first
of
all,
there's
only
one
one
time
a
year
that
you
can
make
the
nine
percent
which
is
january
at
the
end
of
january.
Usually
so,
there's
only
one
shot
you
got,
then
they
do
it's
very
competitive,
so
they
do
a
side
scoring
that
you
have
to
six
for
60
points
that
you
can
get.
You
need
to
get
those
60
points
for
sure
if
you're
gonna,
maybe
if
you're
gonna,
have
any
chances
to
be
competitive
at
the
end
of
the
day.
So
that's
the
first
filter.
Z
We
couldn't
get
the
60
points
last
year
for
just
maybe
a
0.1
mile
difference
for
from
the
nearest
walmart
or
something
like
that.
So
we
just
decided
not
to
move
forward
because
our
chances
were
very
slim
knowing
that
there
were
other
two
applications
in
in
buncombe
county.
That
would
I
mean,
I
think,
their
score
at
a
60
maximum.
So
after
that
they
usually
give
awards
to
only
one
project
in
buncombe
county
and
that's
been
the
historical
at
least
as
far
as
historical
data.
Z
So
when
you
have
more
than
one
it's
only,
it
depends
on
then
on
the
on
the
financial
and
on
the
financing
side
and
then
and
the
nature
of
the
project
and
whether
you
can,
you
know,
touch
on
certain
points
that
the
qap
is
looking
at
that
year
and
then
at
the
end,
they'll
measure
and
make
sure
the
final
decisions
and
scoring
based
on
that
so
very
competitive
in
nature.
Z
Z
Even
though
you,
you
may
think
you
have
a
great
site,
it
may
score
well,
and
maybe
you
get
the
60
you're,
not
guaranteed
you're
gonna
get
the
award,
so
you're,
probably
gonna
have
to
go
two
or
three
times
and
and
that's
happened
before
not
only
north
carolina
but
in
other
states.
So
the
beauty
about
the
four
percent
is
that
if
you
can
get
your
sources
and
uses
to
match,
provided
that
you
know,
usually
you
need
some
extra
commitments
from
like.
Z
We
have
right
now
from
extra
housing
choice,
vouchers
that
will
help
our
leveraging
position
on
the
debt
and
looking
at
some
soft
funding
from
buncombe
county
and
or
on
or
the
city
of
asheville,
you
apply
for
the
four
percent
and
the
bonds
they
do
the
underwriting.
Z
So
we're
trying
to
do
the
bond
inducement
and
the
issuance
through
the
housing
authority
of
asheville,
so
they're
they're,
aware
of
that
and
they're
more
than
willing
to
help
us
out
with
that,
and
so
it's
just
a
matter
of
the
underwriting
and
then
making
sure
that
everything
looks
okay.
Z
Then
you
go
through
the
nchfa,
they
do
the
final
review
and
then
it
goes
to
the
board
meeting
at
the
end
of
the
day,
which
is
one
meeting
in
june,
another
one
in
in
january
for
them
to
just
double
check
the
bond,
the
bona
location
they
have
for
the
year
and
for
this
price
we're
more
than
certain
that
we
that
there's
going
to
be
enough
upon
allocation
to
to
make
to
make
our
project
work,
and
so
they
just
basically
just
review
the
numbers.
Z
They
make
sure
they
have
the
bona
location.
They
approve
the
credits
and
then
you're
good
to
go.
So
it's
more
of
a
of
a
process
and
making
sure
you
follow
through
with
the
checklist
and
whatnot
more
than
it's
more
of
a
of
a
process
in
time
than
just
uncertainty
on
having
to
compete
with
other
folks.
Z
H
Z
It
it
is.
Okay,
all
everything
is
limited
to
seniors
so
low
llw
one
is
loaded
with
one.
It's
a
crack
existing
202
project,
it's
100
percent
senior,
okay,.
C
Rodrigo
and
I
we
need,
I
know
we
need
to
move
on
to
the
next
presentation,
to
clarify
for
the
rest
of
the
board.
What
what
matt
described
is
that
this
project
has
applied
for
funds
from
buncombe
county.
Our
process
should
at
least
will
certainly
wrap
up
before
the
end
of
july
or
rather
june.
C
So
I
think,
by
the
next
time
this
committee
meets,
there
will
be
probably
full
clarity
on
the
commitment,
if
any,
that
they
get
from
buncombe
county,
and
perhaps
it's
all
nine
hundred
thousand
just
want
to
say
that,
and
I
do
want
to
quickly
ask
you:
are
you
going
to
pursue
any
money
from
the
city
of
asheville's
housing
trust
fund
at
this
moment?
Are
you
going
to
to
wait
to
see
how
these
two
applications
resolve.
Z
I
think
we're
going
to
wait
initially
to
see
because
I
I
know
I've
been
in
conversations
with
paul
and
I
I
know
they
were
trying
to
get
some
more
funding
for
the
housing
trust
fund.
So
I
think
that's
kind
of
an
ongoing
thing
and
we
would
like
to
see
where
we
are
with
these
two
applications
and
see
if
we're
gonna
need
anything
else
from
from
from
that
from
that
source.
C
C
We
do
appreciate
you
guys
pursuing
this
project,
and
I
want
to
also
call
that-
and
I
really
appreciate
that
you
guys
have
done
this
and
I
I
would
like
to
see
all
the
other
multi-family
guys
do
this,
which
is
we
have
these
kind
of
two
conversations
in
these
meetings
of
people
producing
units,
and
then
we
often
hear
from
folks
like
the
housing
authority
who
are
having
difficulty
finding.
Yes,
I
really
appreciate
you
made
in
an
effort
to
contact
the
housing
authority
and
fulfill
that
need
of
finding
housing
for
folks
who
have
rental
assistance.
C
We
can't
find
good
housing
and
I
would
hope
that's
a
precedent
that
some
of
the
other
new,
the
new
construction
developers
will
follow.
Z
Sure
we're
happy
too
and
we're
willing
to
repeat
for
upcoming
projects.
G
E
K
E
All
right
sage,
next
up
is
wt
development
with
white
pines
villa.
T
Yes,
hi
I'm
tracy
dusenberry,
representing
wdt
development.
Today
our
development
team
has
an
extensive,
has
extensive
experience,
developing
low
income,
housing
tax
credit
communities
in
north
carolina
wdt
has
developed
five
lit
li
htc
communities
that
are
senior
developments
recently
and
we're
working
on
two
additional
ones.
One
of
them
is
villas
at
swananoa,
which
you
guys
helped
us
with,
and
we
really
appreciate
that
and
then
we
also
received
another
development
in
gastonia
this
past
year
and
we're
working
on
closing
both
of
those
right
now.
T
T
T
According
to
that
market
study,
they
said
that
the
market
area
is
going
to
grow
by
1,
548
senior
households,
they're
55
and
older.
In
hendersonville.
The
capture
rate
was
great
at
5.6
percent
and
there
was
a
net
demand
of
1
384
units,
so
there's
definitely
a
very
strong
need
there.
This
community
is
also
using
income
targeting,
so
we
will
have
targeted
units
at
thirty
percent,
fifty
percent,
sixty
percent
and
eighty
percent,
with
the
average
of
sixty
percent.
T
We
currently
have
a
gap
of
three
hundred
and
ninety
000
and
that's
what
we
asked
the
consortium
for
our
total
development
costs
are
anticipated
to
be
13
million
457
668.
So
our
ask
is
about
5
000
a
unit.
If
you
look
at
the
total
390
000
in
our
78
units,
we
really
need
the
consortium
funds
because,
like
other
people
have
mentioned,
the
construction
costs,
lumber
and
labor
are
just
really
skyrocketing.
T
We
don't
know
where
it'll
end
up,
but
that's
something
that
is
very
scary
also
because
this
is
our
second
time.
You
know
you
never
know.
If
you're
going
to
have
a
third
chance,
it's
very
difficult
with
sellers
to
try
to
keep
the
property
tied
up
over
and
over.
So
we're
really
hoping
we
will
be
able
to
get
it
funded
this
time
and
your
support
is
critical
and
that's
really
it
if
you
have
any
questions
I'll,
be
glad
to
answer
any.
D
Good
morning
this
is
jimmy
and
I'm
the
president
of
workforce
homestead.
Can
you
hear
me.
D
Okay
yeah,
I
will
do
so.
I'm
I'm
sorry,
I'm
at
the
one
of
my
job
sites,
I'm
actually
at
the
amaranth
site
in
candler,
which
received
some
funding
from
the
city
of
asheville,
and
that's
one
of
the
two
projects
that
I'm
currently
developing
in
bunken
county.
The
other
one
is
jasper
in
swananoa,
which
also
received
funding
from
the
from
the
home
consortium.
D
Falling
waters
in
brevard
is
a
proposed
80-minute
family
project.
That's
going
to
be
also
requesting
federal
housing,
tax
credits.
D
This
application
year
is
actually
the
fourth
year
that
I'm
applying
for
credits,
and
I
consider
myself
really
lucky
that
the
property
owners
have
kind
of
hung
in
there
with
me
to
continue
to
extend
the
contract,
but
I'm
particularly
optimistic
for
our
answers
this
year
because
of
the
revisions
to
the
qualified
allocation
plan
that
were
enacted
for
2021,
which
in
particular,
would
favor
favor
applications
in
counties
like
transylvania,
specifically
the
there's
a
provision
in
the
qualified
allocation
plan
that
addresses
tie
breaker
situations,
which
is
kind
of
the
norm.
D
At
this
point,
in
terms
of
how
most
awarded
projects
get
get
decided,
because
when
the
final
scoring
is
is
computed,
they're
all
applications
are
essentially
scoring
the
same
or
perhaps
separated
by
one
or
two
points
at
the
most,
for
the
tiebreaker
is
really
critical,
and
the
first
tiebreaker
for
2021
favors
counties
that
have
received
the
fewest
amount
of
tax
credits
over
the
last
five
years
and,
of
course,
transylvania
county
has
hasn't
received
any
over
the
last
five
years.
D
So
falling
waters
would
be
in
a
particularly
advantageous
position
as
far
as
when
the
tiebreaker
is
applied
to
separate
winners
from
losers.
Secondly,
the
2021
application
qualified
allocation
plan
allows
each
applicant
to
apply
up
to
two
discretionary
points.
If
you
will
two
bonus
points
to
their
application,
to,
you
know
further
boost
their
ranking,
and
my
intention
for
falling
waters
would
be
to
apply
both
my
available
discretionary
bonus
points
to
the
application.
So
I
think
that
would
further
enhance
the
competitiveness
of
the
application.
D
The
market
demand
is
through
the
roof.
The
modern
studies
showed
a
median
demand
of
eligible
households
of
1010
eligible
households.
Capture
rate
is
right
about
three
percent,
and
also
going
to
be
using
income
averaging
targeting
households,
earning
40,
50,
60
and
80
percent
of
the
median
income.
D
I
think
we
got
a
really
excellent
location
in
the
southern
side
of
brevard.
It's
practically
right
across
the
street,
from
a
safe
north,
supermarket
and
as
I've
mentioned,
the
need
and
demand
in
in
brevard
and
the
county
is
is
very
high.
So
I
know
these
units
would
be
very
much
appreciated
if
we
can
get
funding.
D
Finally,
I'd
like
to
request
that
if
the
award
is
approved,
that
alone
be
structured
as
a
cash
flow
loan
and
also
that
disbursement
being
conditioned
not
as
reimbursements
because
reimbursements
for
a
project
of
this
scale
are
very
problematic.
J
Jim,
this
is
matt
kay
with
buncombe
county.
Just
for
clarification
and
not
being
familiar
with,
you
know:
potential
funding
sources
for
transylvania,
county
projects.
This
is
your
gap,
obviously
that
you're
requesting
your
anticipated
gap
in
funding.
J
If
you
know
full
funding
wasn't
available
for
this
gap,
do
you
have
alternatives
and
then
oh
yeah,
I'll
start
with
that.
D
Yeah
I'll
be
turning
to
the
housing
finance
agency
and
requesting
even
more
rental
production
program
loan
funds
that
I
currently
plan
to
request.
So
usually
that
would
be
kind
of
an
alternative.
If
my
full
funding
request
cannot
be
fulfilled.
J
And
then,
as
a
second
question-
and
this
is
actually
probably
since
we
completed
you
know
with
your
presentation-
the
presentations
on
the
construction
projects,
do
we
have
any
indication
from
the
other
applicants?
Since
you
highlighted
this,
you
know
specific
kind
of
funding
structure
you
were
seeking
jim.
You
have
any
indication
from
the
other
construction
applicants
about
what
kind
of
you
know
loan
structure.
They
were
seeking
or
repayment
schedule,
and
will
we
be
evaluating
that?
I
know
there
was
some
discussion
about
that
at
a
previous
meeting.
D
E
So
what
we've
done
recently
to
try
to
have
consistency?
If
you
all
remember
the
meeting
we
had
in
january
is
go
with
cash
flow.
The
two
percent
20
years
is
kind
of
like
your
standard
that
we
want
to
work
with,
and
I
think
somebody
if
they
could
mute
themselves
really
quick.
E
That
would
be
great,
but
that's
how
we
in
general
look
to
do
that
whatever,
as
you
saw
with
one
of
the
earlier
applicants,
they
suggested
a
different
structure
that
perhaps
they're
going
to
do
four
percent
and
could
pay
it
off
in
15
years,
but
in
general
what
we
look
at
is
is
what
works
best
for
the
partner
and
for
the
developer
that
allows
us
to
get
funding
back
that
works
with
cash
that
works
with
reforma
right
now.
That
generally
seems
to
be
moving
into
cash
flow,
2
20
years.
J
And
do
you
from
the
city
staff
perspective,
given
the
request
that
was
mentioned?
Do
you
have
or
take
issue
with
issuing
the
loan,
not
as
reimbursement
based,
I
mean
standard
practice
has
been
reimbursement-based
correct.
E
Yes,
and
I
think
that
that's
a
different
issue
with
how
the
city
processes
its
draw
requests
where
we
need
to
see
proof
of
payment.
Other
municipalities,
I
think,
do
it
different
and
that's
where
we're
in
conversation
with
jim
and
I've
promised
to
try
to
take
a
look
at
that
when
we
get
a
moment
to
see
how
other
municipalities
handle
home
loans
to
tax
credit
developers
and
how
their
reimbursement
and
payback
looks
like.
J
Q
Yes,
thank
you.
I,
this
is
sean
brady
with
commonwealth
development.
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
for
everybody
that
commonwealth
has
also
requested
a
cash
flow
repayment
structure
for
fairhaven
summit,
but
I
think
the
confusion
is
we
propose
in
our
repayment
out
of
available
cash
flow,
not
just
repaying
the
city,
its
principal,
but
also
including
a
four
percent
interest
rate
on
the
total
repayment
amount.
So
I
think
all
of
the
applicants
are
asking
for
cash
flow
repayment.
Q
Otherwise,
if
we,
if
we
don't
receive
that,
then
it's
going
to
reduce
the
the
city's
home
assistance
will
reduce
the
permanent
loan
proceeds
for
those
projects,
because
it
would
be
carried
as
hard
debt.
G
G
G
G
G
Okay,
so
for
this
next
portion
of
our
meeting,
we
have
about
50
minutes
left
in
our
a
lot
of
time.
Today
I
appreciate
everyone
taking
such
a
generous
amount
of
their
day
to
work
on
these
important
issues,
we're
going
to
have
a
discussion
and,
ultimately
a
vote,
and
I
think
perhaps
the
best
thing
to
do
is
to
have
someone
on
city's
staff
share
their
screen
with
this
spreadsheet.
So
we
have
some
somewhat
of
a
beginning
point
paul.
Do
you
have
that
or
christina.
G
You
go.
Thank
you,
okay.
So
of
course,
first
thing
to
remember:
is
this
chodo
and
the
165
that
can
be
can
use
this
choto
contingency
and
can
be
reallocated
into
these
other
items.
E
B
G
Sorry,
I
was
about
to
say
the
same.
Thank
you
robin.
You
know
we
do
have
a
handful
of
new
members.
I
know
it's
hard
to
jump
in
on
such
a
big,
important
topic,
so
I
do
encourage
any
of
you
know.
Folks,
if
you
have
questions
there
are
no
bad
questions,
so
feel
free
to
ask
away
what
I'm
seeing
here
paul
and
maybe
you
could
speak
to
this
a
little
bit
or
jonathan.
G
So
we
have
a
series
of
tax
credit
applicants
that
may
will
not
know
if
they
have
been
awarded
until
the
fall
and
I'm
a
little
new
here.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
I
understand
this
process,
so
we've
basically
taken
all
of
the
tax
credit
project
requests
and.
G
Propose
allocating
each
100
000,
but
it's
possible
and
likely
that
all
of
these
tax
applicants
will
not
be
awarded
so
the
goal
here,
as
I
understand
it,
is,
should
one
of
them
be
awarded.
We
will
come
back
as
a
committee
in
september
and
possibly
reallocate
all
the
funds
to
those
who
are
awarded.
Can
you
speak
to
that
paul.
E
Sure
so,
yeah
in
general,
what
we've
done
with
the
home
consortium
every
march
is
we
try
to
prioritize
some
things
and
a
lot
of
times
that
ends
up
being
the
tax
credit
projects
that
came
in
there
were
there
were
five,
the
six
tax
credit
applications,
we've
recommended,
awarding
four
of
them
and
with
those
equal
amounts
and
a
lot
of
times
again
we
focus
on
those
tax
credit
housing.
E
We
talked
about
this
in
our
january
meeting,
that
on
city
staff,
also
with
the
tenant-based
rental
assistance
and
the
priorities
there,
that
money
can
hit
the
ground
a
little
bit
quicker
than
a
tax
credit
development
which
you
know
might
might
become
available
if,
with
the
awards
in
august,
maybe
literally,
two
two
and
a
half
years
from
today.
E
So
it's
trying
to
balance
these
large
requests
with
the
immediate
need,
but
the
importance
of
us
to
support
these
tax
credit
projects
so
depending
on
how
you
all
want
to
do
that,
it
is
up
to
you.
But
yes,
in
august
the
north
carolina
housing
finance
agency
does
their
rewards.
Usually
one
of
ours
will
get
an
award.
E
There
are
a
few
tax
credit
applications
that
are
in
that
did
not
come
to
us
for
funding
this
year
to
the
home
consortium
so
unknown
there,
but
yep
we'll
come
back
in
september
and
reallocate
any
money
that
went
to
the
non-wedding
tax
credit
folks
and
reallocate
that
to
other
projects
listed
here
if
still
viable,
or
I
can
go
over
the
language
at
the
end
about
who
can
come
back
for
an
application
in
september,
which
the
group
all
worked
on
last
year
and
happy
to
answer
your
questions
on
that
can
get
a
little
complicated,
paul.
C
E
So
far,
this
correct
ish
so
far
this
year
you
know
we're
back
on
track,
there's
no
waivers
as
of
yesterday
on
anything.
So
if
things
go
well,
there's
no
government
shutdown,
no
waivers
etc.
We
with
a
little
luck
would
get
our
hud
contract
normal
in
october
or
early
november
this
year
and
then
immediately
try
to
go
to
contract
to
get
money
back
on
the
street.
G
E
I
I
think
that
would
be
fair
to
say.
Usually
we
get
one,
maybe
two
in
our
consortium
region.
I
think
the
last
couple
of
years
has
really
just
been
one
and
yet,
if
one
of
the
other
agencies
who
has
an
application
in
that
didn't
ask
for
funding
from
us
they're
the
one
that
gets
it,
then,
yes,
possibly
all
four,
that
400
000,
if
those
are
the
numbers,
would
come
back
to
us
in
september.
G
A
Yes,
so
we
did
actually
receive
it
just
now
via
email,
and
I
am
working
to
upload
that
into
the
files
so
that
you
all
can
be
able
to
see
that.
M
Paul
this
is
karen
kina.
I
know
it
was
mentioned
earlier.
I
think
maybe
andrew
you
mentioned
it,
but
with
the
rescue
funds,
have
the
city
taken
into
consideration,
how
we
would
distribute
those
funds
and
prevent
the
federal?
M
You
know
double
dipping,
I'm
not
that
I'm
ever
saying
that
anyone
would
do
that,
but
if
this
influx
of
funds,
particularly
before
supportive
services,
rental
assistance,
what
are
your
thoughts
to
make
these
monies
go
as
far
as
we
possibly
can,
but
taking
into
consideration
that
we've
got
these
rescue
funds
coming
in
and
we
really
aren't
going
to
know
anything
about
them,
maybe
for
the
next
until
30
days
from
now,
I
know
things
week
by
week
are
getting
clearer,
we're
getting
a
clear
understanding,
but
I'm
not
sure
is
this
part
of
the
program,
30-day
announcement
or
the
60-day
announcement.
M
What
are
your
thoughts?
I
guess
it's
my
question.
E
Yeah,
I
know
that
question
came
up
earlier,
so
from
what
what
we
have
seen
we're
trying
to
go
by
what
we
know
now
in
this
point
of
time,
and
unfortunately,
we
don't
know
a
lot
about
the
arp
funds.
At
this
point.
A
lot
of
the
specifics.
I
know
that
the
bill
700
page
bill
is
out
there.
E
Our
staff
is
signed
up
for
a
couple
of
webinars,
but
we
did
that
I
think,
are
next
week,
but
we
did
have
our
check
in
with
hud
last
friday,
who,
let
us
know,
per
our
hud
rep
that,
even
though
the
talk
is
that
the
funds
are
going
to
hit
the
streets
in
30
days,
the
hud
part
of
it
the
things
that
come
to
us
for
emergency
rental
assistance
or
assistance
for
the
homeless,
that
we
shouldn't
expect
to
see
that
or
hear
about
that
until
early
fall.
E
So
that's
what
we
were
told
by
our
hud
rep
for
those
special
funds
and
those
coveted
funds
which
are
more
short-term
solutions
versus
these
home
funds,
which
kind
of
tend
to
be
a
longer
focus.
So
the
way
we've
looked
at
those
arp
funds,
we
can
only
go
by
what
we
know
now,
and
so
that's
where
we
come
up
with
these
recommendations
at
our
best.
M
So
would
we
be
thinking
looking
at
having
another
meeting
once
we
know
firmly
know
how
much
funds
or
how
would
that
work
out?
Do
you
have
any
idea.
E
I
mean
at
this
point
if
we
were
able
to
get
some
guidance
from
hud
about
again
the
funding
that
we
expect
to
come
to
us
and
I'm
sure
the
county
when
it
comes
to
emergency
rental
assistance
and
homeless
assistance.
If
that
could
come
out
in
august
around
the
same
time
of
the
tax
credit
applications,
we
can
kind
of
bring
additional
information
back
at
the
september
reallocation
meeting.
That's
what
I
would
think
at
this
point,
but
we
are
looking
at
that
funding.
E
We'll
do
our
best
to
try
to
decipher
through
it,
but
repeating
myself,
hud
rep
said
to
not
expect
to
see
it
or
hear
much
about
it.
Till
early
fall.
G
J
This
is
matt
cable
with
buncombe
county,
so
I
guess
I
just
generally
have
a
couple
of
questions
for
the
city
staff
in
terms
of
their
recommendations.
I
understand
the
splitting
of
kind
of
a
balance
of
that
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
across
the
nine
percent
projects,
the
the
assessment
being
that
they're
all
fairly
equitable
in
terms
of
merit
in
terms
of
receiving
award
and
and
the
fact
that
not
all
of
those
projects
will
advance
and
there'll
be
a
reallocation.
I
understand
that
you
know
kind
of
basis
for
recommendation
there.
J
I'm
curious
what
the
reasoning
is
for
not
providing
or
suggesting
funding
support
for
the
laurelwood
project
and
also,
if
there
were
any
discussions
with
homeward
bound
on
the
the
recommended
amount,
which
is
far
less
than
their
request,
and
if
you
know
that
would
be
worthwhile
because
you
know
it's
bringing
in
a
whole
new
layer
of
regulation.
J
Looking
for
a
half
million
dollars
may
make
that
more
worthwhile
than
137
000
to
federalize
it
in
that
way.
So
you
know
for
that
particular
project.
I'd
be
curious
if
those
conversations
have
happened,
but
also
for
some
of
the
other
programs
as
well.
If
they've
seen
the
recommendation
and
what
their
thoughts
are
in
terms
of
the
enticement
for
the
funding
at
those
levels,.
E
So
I
I
think
I
matt
you
want
me
to
begin
there
when
it
comes
to
volunteers
of
america.
We've
been
talking
with
rodriguez
for
quite
a
bit
here
and
really
excited
to
see
where
we
can
find
a
partnership
opportunity.
E
We've
talked
a
lot
about
our
housing
trust
fund,
possibility
with
the
city,
although
that
balance
at
the
moment
is
quite
quite
low.
That
said,
when
it
came
to
this
tax
cut
application
they're
planning
on
so
I
we
can
look
at
the
language
to
see
if
they
could
come
back
in
september,
but
without
them
having
submitted
anything
to
the
north
carolina
housing
finance
agency.
As
of
yet
for
an
application.
E
Even
though
it's
a
four
percent
and
not
competitive,
I
thought
that
I
would
rather
wait
till
they
have
an
application
in
and
then
address
funding
issues
after
that,
the
team
regarding
homeward
bound
their
days
in
project
for
right
now.
E
I
know
they'd
like
to
close
earlier,
but
I
think
they're
hoping
to
close
in
october
or
november
on
the
days
in
purchase
and
then
they'll
be
working
at
some
point
after
that,
obviously
towards
the
rehab
just
based
on
the
priorities
of
trying
to
support
our
tax
credit
applications,
as
well
as
the
tenant-based
rental
assistance.
We
weren't
able
to
fully
fund
those
but
came
in
with
some
of
that
with
some
money
about
a
third
of
it
to
try
to
help.
E
Excuse
me
a
fourth
of
it,
to
try
to
help
at
least
with
some
rehab
money
there
to
move
them
forward
and
then,
regarding
how
many
agencies
feel
about
these
awards.
I
I
I
think,
if
that's
what
you're
asking
I'm
sure
some
of
them
might
want
to
speak
up,
but
again
it
always
boils
down
to
not
a
lot
of
money.
Large
amount
of
requests
and
trying
to
find
a
balance
here
to
support
projects.
C
Paul
this
is
andrew,
homer
bound
is
also
applying
for
cdbg
funds.
Is
that
correct
and
if
they
were
to
receive
a
commitment
from
either
of
those
that
would
do
as
matt
mentions
federalize
the
project,
which
would
would
require
them
to
add
on
I'd,
say
some
specific
regulations,
I
guess
with
labor
standards,
environmental
review
section
three
varying
things,
but
I
kind
of
get
this
point.
You
know
they're
requesting
money
for
acquisition
and
I
think
they
intend
to
acquire
that
property
in
the
fall.
C
You
know
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
them.
My
thought
is,
but
very
similar
to
matt.
You
know
either
go
big
on
this
or
not
because
it
will
add
a
layer
and
a
cost
and
some
complexity
to
the
project
for
them.
I
also
want
to
say
for
the
volunteers
of
america
project.
I
think
I
get
your
rationale
and
mats
it's
a
non-competitive
project.
C
I
want
to
point
out,
as
you
did
paul
we
really
like
them
in
the
project.
I
would
say
offering
to
the
rest
of
the
board
that
you
know
matt
mentioned
earlier,
that
they've
applied
from
that
the
900
000
from
buncombe
county
there's
a
very
good
chance
that
within
the
next
few
months
there
will
be
clarity
on
whether
they
get
all
of
that
from
bumping
county
which
may
remove
the
need.
So
I
want
to
tell
them
again.
This
is
a
great
project.
We
really
like
it.
C
If
you
don't
get
any
kind
of
funding
commitment
now,
don't
take
that
as
demerit
on
your
project
and
for
the
rest
of
the
board.
This
may
be
something
that's
fully
funded
by
buncombe
county
and
we
can
move
forward
on
by
the
time
the
next
meeting
occurs
and
if
there
is
money
outstanding
and
there
is
a
gap
in
the
fall
to
consider
it,
then,
but
again
I
don't
want
the
applicant
to
feel
discouraged
because
they
are
the
only
one
who
didn't
get.
G
J
Yeah
I'll
just
kind
of
finish,
the
follow-up
with
homeward
bound
can
can
you
clarify
was
this
for
the
acquisition
piece
or
this
was
actually
the
rehab
piece
and
I
think
what
I'm
getting
to
there
is.
What
is
the
time
sensitivity
on
that
one
in
terms
of
scheduling?
I
just
I
don't
recall,
having
looked
through
all
of
these
applications,
but
you
know
if
that
is
as
time
sensitive
as
maybe
or
will
advance
as
quickly
as
some
of
the
other
projects
might
be
able
to.
J
If
that
funding
was
allocated
again,
not
to
to
say
that
we
should
reallocate
it,
but
that
curiosity,
you
know
if
laura
wood
is
ready
to
move
forward
and
the
schedule
they
were
just
suggesting.
Could
that
be
something
we
could
fund
now
and
then
support
homeward
bound
in
the
next
round
or
something
just
just
curious
about
the
scheduling
time
frame
for
the
use
of
those
phones.
E
And
I
would
think
santiago
would
want
to
answer
that
question.
Meredith
would.
I
Oh,
I
first
I
wanted
to
clarify
this
application
for
500
000
from
home
funds.
It's
for
the
renovations
construction
stage
right
now.
Our
our
closing
time
frame
range
goes
from
optimistic
june
july.
To
our
the
I
guess,
the
worst
case
scenario
you
could
say
october,
so
because
of
the
timing
of
the
funding
and
the
contracts
and
and
what
you
were
just
mentioning
paul
about
hud
and
and
government
shot
down.
I
Some
of
that
we
thought
home
would
then
make
more
sense
for
the
re
renovations
stage,
the
back
end,
because
the
acquisition
commitments
we
are
working
on
them
right
now
and
we
want
to
be
able
to
have
those
on
hand
for
foreclosing
rather
than
you
know,
a
waiting
longer
period
of
time.
I
F
N
Well,
thank
you.
I
had
a
few
comments,
just
sort
of
tying
in
with
some
of
the
last
few
and
staff,
as
always
has
done
a
great
job
with
you
know,
as
paul
mentioned,
you
know,
spreading.
The
funds
out
is
fairly
and
equitably
as
as
possible
within
leaving
just
lots
of
difficult
choices.
N
I'm
almost
looking
at
it
this
year,
and
I
think
there
were
some
comments
about
this
last
fall
during
some
of
the
reallocation
meetings,
but
just
with
the
year
we're
coming
off
of
it
just
feels
like
everything
should
be
tied
in
with
critical
need
right
now,
so
I
was
looking
at
all
this.
The
staff
recommendations,
like
maybe-
and
I
heard
someone
reference,
maybe
going
big
with
the
homeward
bound.
N
It
just
feels
like
the
hundred
thousand
that's
allocated,
you
know
to
the
various
new
construction
projects.
Is
I
mean
I
hate
to
use
this
word.
It's
like
a
token
amount
for
each
one:
that's
not
going
to
have
a
lot
of
impact,
and
it
just
seems
like
we
can
spread.
I
didn't
do
the
exact
math,
but
the
only
the
math
on
the
homeward
bound
program
and
the
other
various
rental
assistance
programs
almost
equals
the
amount
of
available
funding
minus
the
choto,
and
I
just
wanted
to
you-
know,
put
that
forward
today.
N
B
Thanks,
I
actually
have
a
very
different
perspective
than
eric
does
and-
and
I
really
I
mean-
I
totally
respect
everybody
and
I
really
respect
all
the
the
applications
and
all
of
the
entities
here,
and
I
want
them
to
to
to
know
that.
That
is
the
truth,
because
I'm
going
to
to
probably
make
some
recommendations
that
some
people
don't
like.
B
But
one
of
the
purposes
of
this
home
consortium
is
to
have
some
geographical
equity
for
our
rural
partners,
and
so
what
I
would
really
think
that
we
ought
to
do
is
to
fund
the
madison
county
project
as
a
choto,
throw
in
that
additional
forty
thousand
six
hundred
and
fourteen
dollars
so
that
our
choto
obligation
is
met
for
the
year.
B
And
then
I
really
wanna
put
a
lot
of
money
behind
falling
waters.
Transylvania
county
has
a
tremendous
need
for
this
kind
of
housing
is
one
of
those
places
where
we
hear
it's
cheaper
to
buy
a
home
than
to
rent
a
home,
but
not
everyone's
in
the
position.
To
do
that-
and
you
know
this
is
their
third
year
going
for
tax
credits
and
I
feel
like
it's
a
make
it
or
break
it.
B
My
other
thoughts
are
that,
while
there's
not
a
lot
of
money
coming
to
this
consortium,
there
is
a
tremendous
amount
of
money
coming
to
our
local
communities
because
of
the
american
recovery
plan
american
rescue
plan,
I
keep
calling
it
the
recovery
plan
anyway.
You
know
we
know.
Buncombe
county
is
getting
50,
some
million
dollars.
We
know
the
city
of
asheville
is
getting
25
million
dollars
in
far
be
it
for
me
to
tell
them
how
to
spend
that
money,
but
they
could
easily
fund
all
of
these
construction
projects
out
of
those
funds.
B
You
know
the
homeward
bound
thing
could
be
completely
covered
by
the
city
of
asheville
and
you
know
laurelwood
could
be
covered
by
buncombe
county
and
so
given
the
limitation
and
the
smaller
amounts
that
transylvania,
henderson
and
madison
counties
will
get.
I
really
want
to
see
the
transylvania
program
funded,
and
I
welcome
disagreement.
G
H
This
is
always
really
difficult,
because
there's
never
enough
money
for
the
projects.
I
actually
raised
my
hand
to
kind
of
agree
with
what
eric
said.
I
got.
I
thought
eric.
You
said
everything
really
well
and
I'm
I'm
kind
of
on
the
same
page
with
you.
I
am
I
like
that.
We're
allocating
or
we're
putting
money
towards
tenant-based
rental
assistance
in
this
first
round.
H
In
my
time
on
the
board
in
the
past,
we've
always
put
all
the
money
in
the
tax
credit
projects
and
then
all
of
our
tbras
have
to
wait
until
the
fall
to
figure
out.
What's
going
to
happen,
so
I,
like
the
I,
like
the
recommendation
by
staff,
I
think
that
I've
got
it
at
about
26
or
27
of
the
fundings
going
to
tbra.
I
support
that,
but
then
robin
you,
you
made
some
comments
and
you
kind
of
changed
my
mind
a
little
bit.
So
I
know.
H
Made
a
really
excellent
point
about
you
know.
Just
in
terms
of
this
is
a
regional
consortium
and
we
do
need.
We
need
to
take
care
of
our
neighbors
and
our
other
counties
and-
and
I
actually
of
the
tax
credit
projects
I
I
actually
like
falling
waters.
I
think
they've
got
a
nice
concept
and
not
they
serve
a
nice
mix
of
residents.
So
you
know
if
we
don't
go
big
on
the
tbra
and
I
wouldn't
be
willing
to
go
bigger
than
that,
because
I
think
it
does
have
an
immediate
impact.
H
Like
eric
said,
I'm
also
very
open
to
what
you
mentioned
robin,
which
is
consolidating
some
of
this
tax
credit
allocation
into
a
couple
of
projects
that
we
think
really
are
going
to
move
the
needle-
and
you
know
maybe
maybe
spread
the
funds
a
little
bit.
So
I
guess
I'm
just
kind
of
echoing
what
eric
and
robin
said
and
I
like
the
path
we're
heading
down.
G
AB
Yeah
I'd
just
like
to
say,
I
appreciate
some
of
robin's
comments.
I
appreciate
that
someone
other
than
me
said
them,
but
that
site
is
also
the
county
and
the
city.
Brevard
are
also
looking
at
our
housing
issue.
We've
recently
installed
a
an
affordable,
fixed
route
alternative
to
our
transit
system
that
runs
directly
by
that
parcel,
so
it
could
be
installed
as
a
stop
and
provide
affordable
transportation
for
a
possible
development
there.
F
AB
I
do
think
it's
a
great
project
and
a
great
location,
and
that
is
a
a
problem
that
we
have
in
transfigno
county
that
that
what
was
mentioned
it
is
much
easier
to
buy
a
home
in
transfining
county
as
opposed
to
rent.
Because
of
the
the
lack
of
developments
that
provide
that
alternative.
G
Thank
you
alex.
I
was
going
to
share
that.
I
support.
I
agree
with
what
eric
said
this
dire
need,
and
I
also
you
know
being
a
new
one
here.
I
have
more
questions
about
how
this
has
historically
gone,
and
I
excuse
me
for
not
doing
all
of
my
homework.
G
I
was
a
little
confused
about
why
we
would
just
kind
of
spread
these
tax
credit
projects
and
even
hundred
thousand,
as
opposed
to
really
supporting
one
and
helping
their
application,
but
I'm
not
clear
if
that
does
happen,
help
their
application,
and
maybe
someone
paul
or
christina
could
speak
to
that,
because
that
was
kind
of
where
my
brain
went
right
away.
Are
we
giving
a
lot
of
folks
a
weaker
application,
or
can
we
help
someone
push
through
yeah?
That's
my
question
and
the
next
up.
I
have
caitlyn
and
then
matthew.
E
And
so
just
trying
to
answer
that
from
a
staff
perspective
you
know
it
is,
it
is
difficult
to
figure
it
out.
It
would
almost
be
as
if
we
can
whittle
down
to
exactly
what
the
north
carolina
housing
finance
agency
is
thinking.
We
do
know
that
they've
all
scored
60
points
on
our
initial
round
of
application.
They
all
bring
something
to
the
table.
Whether
it's
you
know
a
lot.
You
heard
a
lot
about
senior
housing
location.
We
did
look
at
this
too,
with
which
I
think
to
matt's
point.
E
Fair
haven
might
also
be
in
asheville,
but
you
know
henderson
transylvania,
asheville
and
I
think,
like
30
percent
of
the
awards,
are
supposed
to
go
to
metro
areas
like
buncombe
county.
So
we
tried
to
split
them
up
because
they
all
have
merit
some
have
higher
per
unit
cost,
but
they
also
have
other
features
but
all
scored,
60
and
trying
to
find
a
way
to
support
them.
Instead
of
us
choosing
one
and
kind
of
rolling
the
dice,
I
would
say
it's
hard.
O
So
I
just
want
to
echo
what
robin
said
and
also
echo
what
jimmy
means
said
and
that's
the
new
tiebreaker
and
transylvania
county
has
not
received
funds
in
more
than
five
years,
and
so
we're
really
hoping
that
this
is
the
year
that
falling
waters
is
going
to
receive
that
funding
because
of
the
lack
of
funding.
That's
come
to
our
area.
In
years
past
alan
mentioned
that
the
county
and
city
both
are
talking
about
housing,
affordability
now
as
huge
huge
concerns,
especially
when
it
comes
to
rental
opportunities.
O
So
I
can't
agree
with
alan
and
robin
more
that
falling
waters.
Hopefully
we're
really
really
hoping
that
this
is
the
year
that
it
becomes
a
reality,
and
it
would
be
nice
to
see
the
funding
kind
of
close
that
gap
to
make
sure
that
it
can
become
a
reality.
J
I
think
I'm
going
to
join
robin
in
making
a
statement
that,
maybe
not
everyone
will
agree
with,
and
it's
really
and
we
grapple
with
it
through
our
own
grant
funding
program
here
at
buncombe
county.
It's
really
related
to
the
tenant-based
rental
assistance
issue
as
a
whole.
J
I
don't
know
that
the
I
understand
the
desire
to
provide
funding
to
that
to
those
programs
and
those
applicants,
and
there
was
some
variation
and
you
know
some
of
them
being
recommended
to
receive
100
others
being
recommended
to
receive
less
than
their
full
ask
from
the
city
staff,
and
maybe
there's
some
clarification-
that's
near
there,
but
you
know
I
feel
like
looking
at
what
our
highest
priorities.
It
really
is
always
new
rental
for
households.
J
I
mean
that's
listed
in
the
consolidated
plan
priority,
and
so
I
feel
like
the
real
focus
for
long-term
sustainability
is
to
try
to
drive
as
many
of
those
projects
forward
as
we
can
so
that,
hopefully,
in
the
long
term,
our
tenant-based
rental
assistance
need
is
reduced
because
we're
producing
units
that
people
can
affordably
get
themselves
into.
J
The
the
other
concern
that
I
have
about
that
and-
and
this
speaks
to
some
of
what
you
know
paul
was
mentioning-
is
that
all
of
these
programs
are
in
buckingham
county
or
asheville
and
so
you're
looking
at
you
know,
325
thousand
dollars
for
tenant-based
rental
assistance
to
one
of
the
consortium
communities
really,
and
so
that's
a
lot
of
weight
to
put
there,
I'm
in
agreement
with
supporting
the
transylvania
project
more,
if
that's
possible,
with
the
allocations
and
obviously,
and
if,
if
paul
or
someone
would
speak
to
that,
it's
not
getting
local
support
doesn't
change
the
scoring,
but
it
looks
good
if
you
have
it
and
so
a
token
support
really
is
kind
of
good
enough.
J
I
would
say
from
my
understanding,
but
I
think,
if
we
could
allocate
more
funding,
particularly
the
projects
that
have
and
white
plain
villas
might
be
another
one
if
we
could
provide
more
funding
to
that
have
been
in
the
cycle.
A
few
times
that
have
you
know,
potentially
are
going
to
be
losing
their
option
for
being
able
to
acquire
the
properties
that
they're
trying
to
do
these
developments
on.
G
Thank
you
matthew.
I
appreciate
that
background
too,
on
the
regional
and
I
guess
I'm
curious
robin.
You
may
be
able
to
speak
to
this
because
it
sounds
like
you
know.
So.
Transylvania
county
has
not
been
awarded
anything
in
recent
years,
but
have
we
been
awarding
henderson
and
madison
regularly.
B
We
typically
try
to
award
to
those
counties
when
they
have.
You
know
good
projects
and,
like
we
have
one
tax
credit
in
madison
county,
that
we
put
a
lot
of
money
behind
about
eight
eight
nine
years
ago,
and
henderson
has
done
better
than
transylvania
and
madison
and
we
often
have
an
application
from
hendersonville
habitat
we've.
B
Given
them
some
funding
over
the
years
housing
assistance
corporation,
we
gave
quite
a
bit
of
funding
to
oklahoma
and
the
henderson
county
folks
who
are
on
the
call,
can
probably
answer
that
better
than
I
can
but
yeah
I
mean
we.
We
so
often
end
up
being
very
bunkum
and
asheville-centric,
which
is
there's
no
question
about
the
need.
But
when
there
are
great
projects
in
the
other
counties,
we
try
to
to
do
what
we
can
to
support
those.
O
F
G
M
I
I'm
forrest
can
go
before
me,
go
ahead,
karen
karen
go
for
it,
the
madison
county
contingency
and
we
we
all
share.
So
I
would
100
support
what
what
robin
has
just
said.
M
It
is
so
challenging
for
transylvania
and
madison
county
to
be
able
to
meet
the
criteria,
get
a
good
application
packaged
in
to
the
housing
consortium
when
they
can
do
that,
and
it's
not
every
year
by
no
means
that
we
do
our
best
to
support
the
it's
a
four-county
consortium
and
when
we
continually
and
not
that
we
understand
the
need,
is
absolutely
region
wide
and
there's
greater
populations
in
henderson
and
buncombe
county.
But
when
transylvania
and
madison
county
have
the
opportunity
to
submit
a
strong
application
that
we
get
behind
it.
L
And
I
agree
with
looking
at
longer-term
region-wide
disbursing
the
funds
region-wide
and
I
will
say,
is
we're
all
going
to
be
seeing
relatively.
L
More
money
coming
to
our
local
governments
this
year
from
the
federal
government.
I
will
just
say
that
in
madison
county
and
I
think
all
of
our
municipalities,
one
of
our
top
priorities,
we'll
be
working
on
water
and
sewer
infrastructure,
so
that
we're
in
a
better
position
to
actually
bring
forward
tax
credit
projects
in
the
future.
So
every
community
is
in
a
different
place.
L
Transylvania
is
in
a
place
where
they
can
go
with
this
they've
had
this
project
coming
for
a
couple
of
years,
and
I
I
support
putting
more
behind
fallen
waters.
G
Thank
you,
jonathan
or
paul.
Is
it
possible
to
get
maybe
a
draft
spreadsheet,
a
new
column
in
here
that
we
might
plug
and
see
impacts,
and
then
I
see
ben
you've
got
a
hand
up
those
of
you
forrest
and
karen
that
just
had
yours.
If
you
want
to
take
yours
down
it's
hard
for
me
to
tell
if
you
want
back
in
the
queue
go
ahead.
E
And
I'll
let
ben
go
but
sage.
This
is
a
copy
here,
so
we
can
start
changing
numbers
here
and
we've
got
the
just
to
share
screens
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
But
we've
got
the
original
amount
as
well,
so
we
can
let
y'all
know
so
when
you're
ready
for
us
to
put
a
number
on
the
board
I'll.
Just
let
us
know.
E
H
Thank
you,
so
I
want
to
real
quickly.
I
want
to
acknowledge
where,
where
matt's
at,
he
made
some
really
good
comments
about
the
distribution
of
funds
and
he
he
referenced.
H
Have
done
this,
he
referenced
our
consolidated
plan
priorities
and
I
just
want
to
say
for
the
group
that-
and
this
is
in
the
staff
report.
I
also
think
that
when
we
look
at
tbra
the
organizations
that
are
operating
in
that
area,
they
they
too
the
service
they
provide,
is
also
very
consistent
and
hits
a
lot
of
the
bullet
points
under
the
high
consolidated
plan
priorities
so
matt.
H
I
should
have
said
that
in
my
original
comments
and
you
did
a
good
job
of
kind
of
referencing
back
to
the
plans,
I
just
want
to
say
that
for
the
group
that
again
the
tbra
requests
also,
I
think
they
actually
meet
a
number
of
the
priorities
that
are
in
the
plan.
So
I
know
they'll
probably
be
some
reallocation
of
funds
in
this
process.
I
it's
always
difficult,
but
I'd
like
to
see
us
try
to
maintain
you
know
25
30
percent
of
this
allocation
for
the
tbra
programs
and
matt.
H
E
So
I
can
jump
in
there
and
I
think
emily
I'll
have
you
jump
in,
but
if
you
can
see,
we
basically
tried
to
award
all
the
folks
with
the
tbr,
a
money
a
little
bit
less
to
the
housing
authority,
as
they
have
some
previous
year.
Funding
that
they're
working
through
emily.
If
you
as
the
lead
applicant
with
helpmate,
if
you
could
help
us
out
there.
X
Yeah
so
first,
I
would
just
say
that
I
want
to
express
my
own
unqualified
support
for
helpmates
application.
I
think
helmet
had
a
lot
of
support
among
staff
for
jumping
into
home
tbra.
They
have
really
jumped
into
rental
assistance,
the
last
few
years
for
homeless
folks,
who
are
survivors
of
domestic
violence,
which
is
a
really
important
part
of
that
population.
So
absolute
support
from
staff
for
this
application.
X
I
think
our
concern
was
just
the
amount
just
feeling
like
that
was
a
really
large
amount
to
spend
over
a
relatively
short
amount
of
time,
particularly
if
you
compare
that
to
some
of
those
other
funding
requests
for
tbra
and
also
knowing
that
there
are
other
sources
of
rental
assistance
in
the
mix
and
at
other
agencies
as
well.
So
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
particular
questions,
but
certainly
want
to
be
clear:
the
staff.
Do
you
really
support
this
application.
G
Oh,
we
can
dream
okay,
so
what
I'm
hearing,
if
I
can
summarize
for
a
minute,
is
that
we've
got
a
lot
of
concern
about
funding
any
kind
of
tbra,
knowing
that
this
new
american
recovery
plan
may
fully
fund
or
create
more
opportunity
for
these
to
seek
assistance
through
that
program,
and
there
are
so
many
unknowns
at
this
time.
G
I'm
also
hearing
that
from
the
group-
maybe
five
or
six
of
you-
that
support
this
idea
of
going
heavy
on
one
and
recognizing
that
geographically
transylvania
county
has
been
maybe
not
awarded
in
recent
years
and
could
possibly
use
our
additional
support
to
help
them
get
through
this.
I
understand
this
is
possibly
a
third
or
fourth
year
application
for
them
through
the
nchfa,
and
I
would
like
for
us
to
weigh
that.
Does
anyone
else
have
any
thoughts
or
comments
before
we
try
and
do
some
math.
P
Hi
sage,
this
is
kate
from
transylvania
county.
I'm
not
sure
if
you
saw
my
hand
raised
or
not
I'm
sorry,
no!
No!
That's!
Okay!
So
I
I
just
from
a
a
while
back.
I
I
think
maybe
matt
had
made
this
comment
and
and
looking
at
reallocating
some
of
the
tbra
funds.
I
would
personally
like
to
just
first
reallocate
the
the
chodo
funds
before
we
look
at
reducing
those
so
just
to
throw
that
out
from
a
couple
comments
ago.
E
So
sage,
if
you'd
like,
we
could
put
the
165
into
under
falling
waters.
E
G
G
B
Okay,
you
got
okay,
so
auburn
bound.
Please
forgive
me,
you
know
I
love
you,
but
I
would
take
the
137
from
homeward
bound
and
put
it
to
following
waters.
G
You
know,
and
the
homeward
bound
project
is
something
I'm
very
excited
about,
and
I'm
very
supportive
of,
and
I
recognize
that
this
strategy
might
also
make
sense.
Do
we
have
other
support
for
that?
Can
I
get
some
nods
and
I
support
that
as
well.
I
think
that
makes
sense
okay,
so
we
are
looking
at
pulling
from
the
137
862,
giving
it
to
falling
waters
transylvania.
I
hope
you're
having
a
good
day
over
there,
all
right
and.
E
We
can
jump
in
real,
quick,
just
a
reminder,
megan,
I
might
rely
on
you
on
this
language.
I
think
it's
on
one
of
our
documents,
but
I've
got
too
many
tabs
up,
but
if
you
notice
in
column
a
there's,
three
asterisks
there
on
column
a
one
more
to
the
left.
There,
jonathan
there's
three
asterisks
next
to
three
of
our
projects
that
are
also
tied
to
cdbg
funding.
Those
awards
happen
tomorrow.
They
kind
of
go
hand
in
hand.
Sage,
that's
kind
of
partially
your
role
to
be
remembering
there,
but
megan
feel
free.
AC
Sure,
just
that,
so
the
cdbg
applications
provide
housing
services,
funds
for
the
case
management
that
goes
along
with
the
rental
assistance,
so
we
look
at
really
both
applications
in
in
partnership
to
see
how
they
can
balance
each
other
out.
Thank
you.
G
Okay,
I
will
remember
that
for
our
next
large
meeting
tomorrow
about
cdbg,
so
how
is
everyone
feeling
about
what
remains
in
the
tenant-based
rental
assistance
pool?
Here
I
heard
both
we
should
reduce
this
amount,
and
I
heard
this
should
be
our
focus
matthew.
You
have
raised
a
hand,
go
ahead.
J
So
I
was
trying
to
think
about.
You
know
how
you
equate
the
projects
and
again,
I
feel,
like
all
of
the
work
that
these
agencies
are
are
doing
is
important
work
and,
as
robin
has
mentioned,
and
I
have
mentioned,
there
are
a
lot
of
unknowns
about
how
these
programs
will
be
funded
and
the
potential
for
other
funding.
J
But
taking
a
look,
for
example,
the
helpmate
recommended
funding
amount
based
on
their
request
per
unit
is
assisting
four
households,
so
fifty
thousand
dollars
is
four
households
worth
of
assistance,
and
it's
really
variable
in
that
group.
You
know
if
looking
at
the
housing
authorities
program,
the
recommended
funding
level
at
75
000
is
supporting
120
households,
so
I
think
we
might
need
to
dig
into
this
issue.
J
A
little
bit
more,
you
know
is,
is
help
mate
again,
and
this
is
talking
about
the
program
is
the
amount
of
funding
if
they
got
three
hundred
and
nine
thousand
dollars
to
do
this
work.
Is
that
worthwhile
for
help
mate?
Yes,
probably,
is
it
worthwhile
to
get
fifty
thousand
dollars
to
support
for
households?
Yes,
I'm
sure
it's
worthwhile,
but
from
an
administrative
oversight
contracting
all
the
work
that
you're
gonna
have
to
do
for
that.
Is
it
a
sensible
investment
right
now?
Is
this
like
a?
J
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
all
of
the
programs
kind
of
in
that
lens
and
recognize
where
you
know
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
is
making
a
huge
impact
for
homeward
bound
western
north
carolina's
buncombe
county
tbra
ask
but
it's
12
households
and
if
you're
allocating
100
000
and
you
can
build
12
units.
Is
that
a
better
allocation
of
funding?
Those
are
this.
Those
are
the
bigger
issues.
I
think
that
are
behind
this,
but
kind
of
equating.
What
are
you
actually
going
to
be
able
to
support
with
the
funding
level?
G
I
think
those
are
helpful
and
good
points
matthew.
I
do
want
to
recognize
that
helpmate
is
taking
a
leap
into
this
new
opportunity
and
I
think
we
heard
april
speak
to
it
a
little
earlier,
but
the
pandemic
has
exacerbated
and
endangered
more
people,
and
it's
it
feels
situational.
I
personally
would
have
a
hard
time
removing
them
from
this
spreadsheet.
I
know
I'm
just
one
vote
and
I
saw
andrew
your
hand
go
up.
C
I
just
have
a
brief
question
about
the
the
spreadsheet
what
it's
reflecting
so
I
know
there's
a
little
dialogue
earlier,
but
we
have
165
000,
plus
40
000
for
chc
in
madison
county.
Is
that
correct,
so
basically
we're
giving
them
the
full
15
shadow
or
is
that
still
to
be
deliberated.
F
N
Eric
yeah,
I
wanted
a
question
probably
for
paul,
and
you
might
have
touched
on
this
earlier,
but
help
me
understand
paul
like
having
just
witnessed
the
137
get
yanked
from
homeward
bound.
Does
that
render
that
project
in
danger
of
not
happening?
That's.
I
just
need
to
know
in
that
kind
of
basic
context.
E
I
think,
on
that
probably
maybe
a
better
con
question
for
santiago
or
meredith
to
answer,
but
I
know
they're,
obviously
their
first
and
main
focus
at
the
moment.
I
believe
it's
fair
to
say,
is
on
acquisition
and
then
it
would
go
towards
the
rehabilitation
but
santiago
or
meredith.
If
you
were
still
on
the
call.
Do
you
want
to
take
that
question?
I'm.
I
Still
here
first,
let
me
say
that
you
know
any
any
part
of
our
budget
funding
is
critical
to
to
the
success
of
our
project.
However,
I
do
a
confirm
what
you
just
said:
paul
right
now
we
are
more
focused
on
acquisition.
The
I'll
go
back
to
my
comments
earlier
that
at
this
point,
we
that
our
application
for
the
500
000
for
home
are
for
the
back-end
renovation,
construction
and
so
again,
all
every
dollar.
Every
penny
for
us
is
critical
at
this
point,
but
right
now
we
are
focused
on
acquisition.
N
A
problem
yeah
just
one
quick
follow-up-
I
just
I
mean
I'll-
go
along
with
with
the
recommendations
as
they're
coming
along,
but
I
just
I
know,
priorities
are
what
they
are,
but
we're
just
again
in
a
time
of
unprecedented
critical
need.
Wlos
is
showing
stories
about
tent
cities
along
the
smaller
river
road
and
other
places,
and
I
just
again
felt
very
strongly
about
that
project
and
just
hate
to
see
it
lose
everything.
G
I'm
there
with
you
eric
and
and
while
I
hesitate
on
how
we're
going
through
this
process,
I
also
feel
very
strongly
that
we
will
get
that
project
done
and
we
will
support
them
in
other
avenues.
B
G
Agreed
and
yeah
okay
does
anyone
else
have
a
hand
up
that?
I
cannot
see
or
a
question
or
comment
concern
about
what
we
currently
have
drafted
in
front
of
us.
E
Save
shit's
paul
here,
just
one
clarification,
if
it,
I
think
robin
mentioned
earlier,
about
awarding
madison
county
up
to
that
full
amount
of
the
200
and
some
we
would
recommend,
since
we
don't
have
an
application
for
that
full
amount
to
just
award
what,
as
for,
however,
the
language
I
just
reread
again,
it
will
allow
them
to
justify
if
they
want
to
come
back
in
and
ask
more
for
more
funding.
So
if
that's
okay
we'd
prefer
to
leave
it
at
the
165
just
because
we
don't
have
an
application
for
that
full
amount.
G
M
Funding
this
is
karen.
Can
I
ask
paul,
would
that
mean
they'd
come
back
in
september,
or
would
they
just
come
back
to
staff
with
the
boards
of
authorizing
to
go
up
to.
E
Once
we
get
through
the
tax
credit
applications,
which
should
be
decided
in
mid-august,
we'll
send
out
the
call
for
a
new
and
or
increased
request,
applications
and
I'll
share
that
language
with
you
all
at
the
end.
To
make
sure
we
approve
that
language,
but
they'll
come
back
to
us
most
likely,
I'm
assuming
after
we
put
the
call
out
mid-august.
B
I
have
a
question
paul
about
the
tbra
programs
that
we
are
already
funding.
I
think
you
mentioned
that
the
housing
authority
had
some
funds
that
they
still
need
to
to
use
from
a
previous
allocation.
What
about
the
others?
Have
they
been
able
to
utilize
what
we've
given
them
in
the
past.
E
For
the
most
part
yeah,
but
let
me
pull
up
those
numbers
robin
and
reminder
to
everybody.
We
just
got
our
hud
contract
for
2021
funding
last
week
so
that
that
money
hasn't
moved
yet,
but
it's
about
to.
But
let
me
look
up
those
numbers
feel
free
to.
If
somebody
has
another
question,
I
will
find
those
numbers
jonathan
sent
them
to
me
earlier.
M
H
So
maybe
this
is
ben
woody
city
of
asheville
and
I
just
want
to
clarify
this.
So
whenever
you
know
we
go
the
tax
credit
funding
decisions
we
made
in
august,
I
think
I
heard
so
does
that
mean
that
when
we
gather
again
in
the
fall
there,
there
should
be
monies
to
reallocate
to
some
of
these
projects
correct.
H
So
that
may
be
the
time
to
to
come
back
and
evaluate
the
homeward
bound
project,
the
permanent
support
of
housing,
because
I'm
like
eric,
I
actually
think
that's
a
good
project
and
I'll
probably
support
that
over
some
of
the
tax
credit
projects
we're
looking
at.
But
I
also
recognize
that
you
know
I
want
to
give
everybody
the
best
chance
to
be
successful
in
that
process.
But
I
would
certainly
like
to
come
back
and,
if
possible,
look
at
that
permanent
supportive
housing
project
from
home,
rebound.
G
I
appreciate
that
sentiment
and
I
am
learning
so
much
from
y'all
as
a
group
today,
and
I
appreciate
all
your
input
when
I
sat
down
and
looked
at
this,
I
thought
we
should
have
gone
all
heavy
on
homeward
bound
because
I
know
that
project
is
so
crucial
to
our
current
community
and
situation.
But
I
do
support
how
we're
moving
in
this
direction,
and
I
am
confident
that
we
will
get
homeward
bound
and
days
in
project
where
they
need
to
be.
G
I
like
this
idea
of
revisiting
september,
we'll
know
more
about
their
closing
situation
and
their
needs
by
then,
as
well
as
reallocating
any
of
this.
So
one
question
for
the
group,
knowing
that
having
some
support
on
your
nchfa
application
from
the
municipality
is
great
d.
Are
we
comfortable
leaving
the
other
sets
of
100
for
fair
haven,
white,
pine
and
ovata.
B
E
E
That
puts
us
on
the
you
know.
This
is
where
it's
so
difficult,
but
from
a
staff
perspective
you
know
the
applications
need
to
be
finalized
for
our
tax
credit
folks
in
may
homeward
bound
to
a
more
supportive
of
all
these
folks
and
homeward
bound
would
be
looking
for
the
rehab
money
sometime,
probably
late
this
year,
so
trying
to
look
at
a
timeline
perspective.
E
You
know,
I
think
there'd
be
an
opportunity
for
homeward
bound
to
to
come
back
in
august
with
you
know,
if
you're
not
fully
funded
or
not
funded
at
all,
you
can
come
back.
I
would
think
it's
important
to
show
some
said
to
matt
cable's
point.
It
doesn't
necessarily
give
you
points,
but
having
that
local
support
with
with
home
funding
is
important,
tough
call,
but
that's
where
I
think
staff
might
go.
J
So
I'm
gonna
probably
make
it
an
unpopular
recommendation,
but
looking
at
tbra
again
and
trying
to
think
of
how
to
allocate
these
things,
I'm
wondering
if
the
consortium
might
be
comfortable
with
providing
50
of
the
requested
funding,
support
for
housing
authority
and
the
two
homeward-bound
requests
under
tbra
and
part
of
that
would
involve
a
question
for
homeward
bound
and
we
faced
this
with
our
applicants
as
well.
You
know
they
might
come
in
for
a
couple
of
different
different,
different
different,
hey.
I
like
that.
J
J
Would
it
make
more
sense
or
be
more
beneficial
to
them
if
we
did
reallocate
some
of
the
recommended
award
level
now,
you
know
we
could
move
potentially
ninety
thousand
dollars
out
of
their
tbra
to
support
their
permanent
supportive
housing.
Construction
project,
like
those
are
the
kind
of
things
that
I'm
thinking
about.
G
AA
Sure,
assuming
that
we
have
to
make
a
choice
on
which
which
funding
streams
to
support,
we
would
we
need
the
tbra
for
permanent,
supportive
housing.
We
need
that.
AA
Certainly,
we
need
all
of
our
projects
supported,
but
recognizing
that
we're
not
going
to
go
into
our
renovation
phase
until
we
close,
which
is
actually
we
are
hoping
to
close
no
later
than
august,
we
actually
have
until
october,
but
our
goal
is
to
close
by
august
so
that
we
can
start
actively
fundraising
through
our
capital
campaign
and
actually
securing
all
those
monies
starting
at
that
point
late
summer
for
renovation.
So
we
do
have
a
little
more
time
on
that.
AA
It
would
be
helpful
to
have
some
some
funding
from
this
group
to
support
our
north
carolina
housing.
Finance
agency
request
it.
It
just
looks
good
to
demonstrate
local
support
and
we've
already
submitted
that
application.
G
Thank
you,
meredith,
that's
very
that's
very
helpful,
and
since
you
are
trying
to
close
in
august
and
nchfa
will
award
in
august,
it's
very
possible
that
we
will
be
here
together
in
september
needing
to
reallocate
some
funds
and
you
will
be
entering
in
your
phase
of
raising
funds
for
this
request.
So
the
timing
may
work
very
well
for
us
to
leave
these
in
support
of
these
tax
credit
applications.
G
C
And
I
want
to
clarify
quickly,
I
know
mayor
knows
this
knows.
Excuse
me
the
program
she's
applying
for
is
not
the
9
tax
credit
program.
Nchpa
has
a
supporting
housing
program,
so
I
don't
know
if
the
timeline
is
going
to
be
the
same.
I
think
they
often
award
that
later
here,
but
yeah.
Hopefully,
by
that
time
there
will
be
significant
local
support.
G
AA
C
And
my
only
other
quick
question
sage
is:
this
is
probably
me
being
a
little
anxious,
but
it
seems
like
there's.
A
lot
of
support
for
falling
waters
is
400
and
2
000
enough,
and
I
think
we
probably
should
not
ask
jimmy
mean
who's.
Gonna
say
it's
not
enough,
but
I
think
this
is
kind
of
a
situation
where
it
feels
like
we
don't
want
to
miss
to
make
sure
transylvania
gets
that.
I
want
to
open
the
discussion.
G
G
B
Am
thank
you.
I
move
that
the
home
consortium
approved
the
allocations
as
listed
currently
on
the
screen,
and
if
that's
not
an
appropriate
motion,
somebody
tell
me.
A
No,
so
there
was
one
public
comment:
okay
that
came
through
and
it
was,
it
was
sent
yeah
that
was
sent
out
to
the
board.
Unfortunately,
it
will
not
be
read
aloud,
but
it
will
be
included
in
the
the
document
after
this
meeting.
Okay.
G
And
it
was
specific
to
design
criteria,
I'm
not
specific
to
recommending
one
or
the
other,
or
anything
that
really
we're
discussing
at
this
moment
correct.
I
do
want
to
acknowledge
that
public
comment.
Okay,
so
we
have
a
first.
We
have
a
second.
We
have
any
further
discussion
reminder
I
cannot
see
and
all
of
you
or
your
hands.
So
if
you'd
like
to
speak
up
now,
is
your
chance.
G
All
right
gosh,
I
think
we
did
it
I'm
going
to
go
through
a
roll
call
vote
all
right.
Let's
see
this
is
not
in
any
order,
except
for
how
I
was
typed
on
my
screen,
robin
merrill.
H
J
J
I
G
Caitlyn
finkel
I
sonia
flynn-
I
I
believe
jacob
was
absent
right,
jacob
you're,
not
with
us.
Yes,
that's
correct,
okay,
barbara
folk,
I
forest
gilliam.
L
M
F
G
G
G
Okay,
all
right.
Well,
we
have
done
it.
That
is
a
hard
process.
We
had
incredible
applicants.
I
think
you
all
had
a
great
discussion
around
who
and
how
to
best
approach
this
during
extenuating
circumstances
and
pandemic
and
economic
crises
left
and
right.
Let's
hope
that
the
recovery
plan
brings
more
money
into
the
community.
Let's
hope
that
we
have
several
applicants
be
awarded.
This
fall
and
I
appreciate
appreciate
all
of
your
time
and
work
this
morning.