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B
Hey
everyone:
my
name
is
anna
priest,
I'm
the
chair
of
the
sustainability
advisory
committee
on
energy
in
the
environment,
and
this
is
our
march
16
2022
meeting
yep,
it
is
2022.
B
all
committee
members
and
staff
are
participating
virtually.
We
appreciate
your
patience
as
we
work
through
these
meetings
virtually
and
if
there
are
any
difficulties,
we'll
keep
you
posted.
We
are
streaming
live
on
our
virtual
engagement
hub,
which
is
accessible
through
the
virtual
engagement
hub
link
on
the
city's
website
and
there's
my
cat.
Sorry,
if
you
can
hear
her,
if,
let's
see,
we
also
have
an
option
for
the
public
to
listen,
live
by
phone
for
those
of
you
out
there
with
us
today.
D
B
Oh
hey
there
you
are
wonderful.
Let's
see,
we
also
have
bridgette
herring,
kyra,
bullan,
not
sure,
if
amber
weaver's
with
us
today,
let's
look
at
the
whole
list
or
sage
turner.
Who
is
our
city
council
liaison?
She
may
be
joining
later,
all
right.
B
So,
let's
get
started
with
today's
agenda,
but
to
help
our
audience
follow
along
I'll
state
each
section
of
the
agenda
aloud
and
do
a
vocal
roll
call
in
case
there
is
a
vote
which
I
don't
believe
there
is
anything
to
vote
on
today
again
once
we
let
all
the
presentations
finish,
we'll
do
question
and
answers
make
sure
to
use
the
little
raised
hand
button.
If
you
have
any
questions
all
right.
First
up,
we
will
vote
on
the
first
item
on
the
agenda,
which
is
to
approve
january
minutes.
E
I
move
that
we
accept
the
minutes
from
last
meeting.
B
All
right,
so
we
have
imagine
in
a
second:
are
there
any
comments
or
any
changes
that
need
to
be
made
made
to
them
to
the
minutes?.
B
All
right
so
we'll
do
a
quick,
yay
or
nay
ann
yay,
kim
yay,
maggie
yay
pam.
C
B
B
F
Thank
you.
It's
it's!
Okay!
It's
german!
It's
it's
a
lot!
It's
it's
heinbaugh,
I'm
happy
to
be
here
with
you
all,
no,
no
problem
yeah,
so
I'm
the
co-director
of
programs
for
bountiful
cities
and
we
have
a
contract
with
the
office
of
sustainability
of
the
city
of
asheville.
F
So
related
to
the
edible
parks,
we've
been
steadily
plugging
along
to
organized
work
days.
We've
had
nine.
So
far,
we
have
more
work
days
upcoming
through
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year.
We
will
have
completed
a
total
of.
I
believe
it
is
20
work
days
this
year
and
then
also
we've
had
a
lot
of
additional
activities
taking
place
in
the
edible
parks
this
year,
including
new
beds
and
new
community
actions
and
activities.
F
The
next
item,
which
is
the
largest
item
in
our
contract,
is
related
to
the
support
of
community
gardens
in
asheville
and
buncombe
county.
So
this
involves
monthly
newsletters
in
english
and
spanish.
We
conduct
monthly
educational
workshops.
F
We've
been
actually
supporting
the
development
of
brand
new
community
gardens
on
city-owned
land,
with
that
partnership
with
the
city
of
asheville's
asheville
edibles
program,
and
helping
to
develop
infrastructure
and
supporting
the
development
of
a
baseline
metrics
system
for
learning
how
many
community
gardens
are
operating
in
the
area
across
those
community
gardens?
What
are
they
growing?
How
much
are
they
growing?
How
many
people
are
they
serving
so
that
then
year
on
year,
we
can
measure
progress.
F
G
Does
it
care
if
you're
asking
questions
please,
I
I
haven't
been
keeping
up
with
whatever
the
the
city
has
been
considering
for
the
lot
that
is
directly
adjacent
to
this
one?
Is
there
any
overlap
between
this
existing
garden
and
any
plans
for
that,
whatever
the
appropriate
name
is
for
that
area?.
F
Right
so
the
elder
and
sage
community
gardeners
were
involved
in
the
thinking
and
planning
of
the
new
community
garden
space.
At
this
time,
when
construction
commences,
it
will
displace
the
existing
location
of
the
elder
and
sage
garden,
and
so
at
that
time
we'll
be
supporting
the
garden
to
ideally
transition
into
the
new
space.
But
it
is
also
possible
that
the
new
space
will
come
with
new
gardeners
as
well,
so
because
construction
hasn't
started.
F
Yet
we
operate
on
annual
contract
agreements
which,
with
each
one
of
the
gardens,
and
so
the
elder
and
sage
garden,
has
another
year
of
operating
within
the
space
that
they're
in
right
now
and
they
primarily
use
container
gardening.
So
it's
not
in
ground
and
if
they
need
to
move
it,
they
could
potentially.
F
D
Hi,
I
thought
I
heard
you
say
that
you're
going
to
be
developing
or
working
on
metrics
to
measure
output
from
various
community
gardens
yeah.
What,
at
what
stage
is
that
and
do
you
have
any
preliminary
numbers
on
what
the
baseline
would
look
like.
F
So
what
we've
done
so
far
is
we
surveyed
the
community
gardens
that
exist
across
asheville
and
buncombe
county
as
to
what
types
of
metrics
would
be
feasible
for
them
to
collect
each
year
and
then
also
we
purchased
the
equipment
and
supplies
necessary
to
support,
gardens
and
being
able
to
collect
that
data.
For
example,
some
gardeners
would
like
to
be
able
to
identify
how
much
poundage
of
food
is
being
given
away
through
their
garden,
but
they
don't
have
scales.
F
So
we
purchased
scales
and
white
boards
and
all
kinds
of
equipment
to
support,
gardens
and
being
able
to
establish
those
metrics
year
on
year,
because
many
of
the
gardens
didn't
already
have
access
to
that
type
of
equipment.
This
first
year
is
going
to
be
a
little
spotty
in
terms
of
the
baseline
data
collection,
but
we
are
in
the
process
of
collecting
that
data,
so
we
don't
have
any
really
good
numbers
yet,
but
the
areas
of
data
that
will
be
collected
are
related
to
square
footage
of
growing
space.
F
Number
of
people
engaged
in
the
garden
number
of
people
who
receive
produce
from
the
garden
who
are
supported
by
the
garden
and
then
a
number
of
varieties
that
are
grown
in
the
garden.
That's
an
approximation,
an
estimate
and
poundage
of
food
that
is
distributed
from
the
garden
and
so
gardens
can
select
one
or
more
of
those
different
metrics
that
they
feel
comfortable
and
realistic
and
being
able
to
provide
each
year.
D
And
is
your
hope
to
be
able
to
have
some
numbers
this
growing
season
after
the
scoring
season
or
yes,.
F
That's
correct
yes,
and
we're
actually
sort
of
retroactively
asking
if
anybody
has
access
to
any
of
those
baselines
for
the
previous
growing
season.
We
want
to
go
ahead
and
put
those
in
place,
but,
yes,
the
strong
measures
will
begin
after
this
growing
season.
F
Thank
you,
allison.
Do
you
have
a
question.
H
I
do
hi
the
new
at
a
what
what
at
one
point
was
called
the
edible
mile
between
new
belgium
and
the
dog
park
are,
is
bountiful
cities
involved
with
that
edible
landscaping
at
all.
F
No,
that's
not
something
that
we're
involved
with.
Currently,
I
believe
that
we
had
representation
in
those
talks
number
a
number
of
years
ago,
and
that
was
probably
five
or
six
years
ago
when
some
of
those
community
talks
were
taking
place,
but
we
have
not
been
engaged
in
that
work
since
that
time.
Okay,
thank
you.
You're
welcome.
Thank
you
any
other
questions.
I
So
this
year
the
asheville
balkan
food
policy
council
has
five
planned
actions
for
our
contract
with
the
city
of
asheville
office
of
sustainability
and
to
save
on
time
to
keep
this
concise
and
instead
of
going
through
each
of
them.
Before
I
begin,
I'm
just
going
to
jump
in
and
I'll
explain
each
one
as
we
go
through
the
slides.
I
So
if
you
want
to
go
to
the
first
slide,
the
first
action
is
our
reparations
work,
supporting
asheville's
vypoc
land
advocates
in
developing
land
and
food
based
reparations
and
processes.
This
started
back
in
2020
in
2021.
This
was
a
city
contract
deliverable
where
we
we
convened
a
committee
of
individuals
who
did
research
and
input
gathering
to
create
a
list
of
or
a
process
for,
determining
recommendations
for
reparations
related
to
food
security,
harms
caused
by
urban
renewal
policies,
and
this
year
we
are
we're
operating
as
the
food
security
reparations
coalition.
I
This
is
phase
two
of
that
project
and
we
have
very
limited
reparations
work
included
in
this
year's
contract
because
there's
so
much
work
being
conducted
in
other
departments.
Obviously,
so
the
office
of
sustainability
is
not
actively
supporting
our
reparations
organizing
this
year.
We're
just
being
contracted
to
keep
them
informed
about
the
activities
of
the
coalition
and
how
the
conversations
are
intersecting
with
the
food
policy
action
plan.
I
And
these
are
just
this-
is
some
social
media
posts
that
we
had
done
about
hiring
our
coordinator
and
about
the
about
urban
renewal
for
black
history
month.
I
Currently,
the
only
area
of
collaboration
that
I've
identified
with
stacy
is
is
actually
one
of
our
contract
deliverables
and
it's
a
food
waste
reduction
month.
Activities
related
to
our
food
waste
solutions,
wnc
and
allison's
involved
in
that
too,
and
I
have
not
found
any
potential
areas
of
collaboration
yet
with
the
urban
forestry
commission,
but
they
only
meet
occasionally.
So
you
still
have
plenty
of
time
to
look
for
those.
I
We
have
been
developing
new
information
materials,
including
details
about
involvement
with
in
coed
community
emergency
response
team
trainings
for
distribution
in
the
neighborhoods
that
we're
working
with
right
now,
we're
currently
working
with
shiloh
east
end
deeper
view.
South
side
and
nicole
has
report
prepared
a
report
and
shared
it
with
easton
neighborhood
that
outlines
the
results
of
a
survey
that
she
did
of
residents
of
that
neighborhood
to
gather
input
to
inform
the
development
of
the
neighborhood
emergency
food
plan.
For
that
community
and
nicole,
has
also
nearly
completed.
I
I
think
a
food
plan
draft
which
is
really
exciting,
we're
also
in
the
very
beginning
stages
of
working
with
the
deeper
view
neighborhood
to
to
begin
a
neighborhood
emergency
food
plan
there,
and
it's
really
great
that
we
have
these
two
neighborhoods
willing
to
to
work
with
us
on
neighborhood
emergency
food
preparedness
plans,
because
they're
so
different
easton
as
a
legacy,
historic
legacy,
neighborhood
and
deaver
view
as
a
housing
authority.
Neighborhood
working
with
those
two
neighborhoods
will
really
inform
this
work.
Moving
forward
with
other
neighborhoods
in
asheville.
I
I
The
next
deliverable
is
the
actual
edibles
map
and
it
feels
like
that.
Work
has
been
coming
along
slowly,
but
we
really
have
made
progress
this
year,
so
we've
developed
a
project
outline
in
collaboration
with
the
community
garden
network,
with
some
proposed
platform
updates
a
proposed
data
maintenance
plan
and
proposed
process
for
submitting
new
sites
and
available
land
to
the
to
the
site,
and
our
next
step
will
be
meeting
with
the
city's
it
staff
to
review
the
proposal
and
decide
what
the
next
steps
will
be.
I
I've
also
been
helping
kira
in
the
office
of
sustainability,
with
some
admin
tasks
and
coordinating
and
some
events
and
activities
we've
actually
done
a
lot
of
really
cool
events.
In
the
past
few
months.
In
august
we
had
our
quarterly
meeting
in
person.
I
know
it
sounds
crazy
out
at
blue
ghost
brewing
with
danny's
dumpster.
That
was
a
great
event.
It
was
fairly
well
attended.
In
december
we
had
a
really
well
attended
cooking
demo
with
ashley
english
out
at
bottle
riot
and
in
february
we
we
did
a
tabling
event
at
new
belgium
brewing
company.
I
I
Yeah
super
well
attended
a
lot
of
interest
at
that
event
and
coming
up
in
april
is
food
waste
reduction
month
maggie
and
I
have
been
working
really
hard
on
some
social
media
strategies
for
that,
and
we
are
planning
some
activities,
including
a
big
party,
with
wicked
weed
brewing
at
the
end
of
actually
it's
going
to
be
may
1st
and
all
of
that
still
in
development.
Right
now,.
I
B
B
If
you
google,
I
didn't
want
to
say
it
out
loud
anna,
it's
on
the
record
now
I
think
officially
the
city
calls
it
haywood
street
and
page
avenue
properties.
They
have
a
their
master
concept
plan
on
the
city's
website.
If
you
look,
that
up
looks
like
there's
a
nice
video
of
the
plan,
so
hopefully
we
can
get
some
edibles
over
there.
That
would
be
awesome.
B
J
E
J
Or
just
whatever
work
is
is
happening.
Yeah.
I
I
can
speak
to
what
we're
doing
with
the
diva
view
community
right
now
as
far
as
the
emergency
neighborhood
food
planning,
and
I
think
nicole,
would
be
the
best
person
to
speak
to
what's
going
on
with
community
gardens
but
yeah
with
diverview.
What
we've
done
so
far
is
we
have
a
an
outdoor
food
pantry
installed
there
it
was
installed
in
october,
it's
been
seeing
a
lot
of
traffic,
which
is
great
and
it's
I
think,
there's
they're
developing
some
mutual
aid
around
that
food
pantry.
I
So
residents
are
all
kind
of
working
together
to
keep
it
stocked,
it's
a
struggle
for
them
and
they
do
need
some
support
with
it.
So
the
food
policy
council
is
working
to
to
find
bulks
to
help.
Support
with
that,
and
also
one
of
the
residents
who
has
been
sort
of
in
charge
of
the
food
pantry
project
is
interested
in
pursuing
an
emergency.
A
neighborhood
emergency
food
plan
there.
F
And
I'm
happy
to
speak
to
follow
up
on
the
kind
of
second
part
of
that
we're
also
talking
right
now
with
the
south
side
neighborhood
about
the
potential
of
installing
an
outdoor
pantry
there,
when
the
outdoor
pantry
project
started
in
2020,
really
in
response
to
the
increased
need
due
to
the
pandemic.
F
We
at
that
time
reached
out
to
a
number
of
housing
authority
properties,
and
there
was
there
was
some
resident
interest,
but
the
housing
authority
itself.
The
administration
was
not
interested
in
that
time
in
us
installing
pantries
on
the
property.
So
there's
been
a
shift
since
then,
and
since
now,
there's
a
pantry
in
d
review.
It
sort
of
opens
up
the
doorway
to
begin
to
work
with
additional
housing
authority
properties
around
the
city
to
help
install
outdoor
pantries.
So
we're
going
to
start
with
south
side
on
that
and
then
move
on
from
there.
F
These
gardens
are
all
supported
and
then,
of
course,
the
south
side
farm.
It's
becoming
a
farm
now,
rather
than
a
community
garden,
supports
several
public
housing.
Formerly
public
housing,
housing
authority
properties
there
and
pisco
view
used
to
have
a
garden
that
was
active
but
has
been
dormant
for
some
time
due
to
a
gap
in
leadership,
so
ongoing
support
of
gardens
in
those
communities
as
well.
I
F
G
So
these
events
sound
really
exciting.
How
do
I
find
out
about
upcoming
events
and
when
they're
happening
and
how
to
get
involved.
I
I
We're
trying
our
website
actually
it's:
oh
gosh,
wnc
foodways
maggie
help
me
it's
wnc
food
waste.
I
That's
that's,
obviously
the
the
central
location
to
find
out
about
what's
going
on,
but
we
are
also
trying
to
do
a
lot
of
social
media,
so
instagram
facebook
would
be
good
places
and
maggie
has
developed
an
amazing
month-long
strategy
for
food
waste
reduction
month.
That
should
keep
everybody
informed
about
what's
happening
every
day.
We're
also
a
part
of
that's
going
to
be
also
a
home
food
waste
challenge.
So
there'll
be
some
prizes
available
to
folks
who
participate
in
our
in
our
instagram
and
facebook
challenges.
H
I
B
Awesome
well.
Thank
you.
That's
also
all
really
good
information.
I've
just
followed
your
instagram
instagram
page,
so
you
have
an
extra
follower
there.
All
right
next
on
the
agenda
is
3b
fiscal
year,
22
presentation
from
asheville,
greenworks
don
chavez,
and
I
believe
she
joined
us
a
little
while
ago.
K
I'm
here
thank
you,
hi
before
I
jump
into
greenworks
stuff.
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
the
urban
forestry
commission
meets
every
month.
K
There's
also
a
tree
protection
task
force
that
meets
monthly,
and,
I
think,
probably
better
than
collaborating
with
the
urban
forestry
commission
would
be
collaborating
with
greenworks,
because
we
do
more
programming
that
would
be
collaborative,
and
I
know
that
the
the
food
justice
policy
council
has
worked
also
with
we
work
together
on
the
food
food,
waste
workshops
and
composting
workshops
too,
but
we
have
more,
I'm
sure
that
we
can
find
ways
to
partner
on
so
greenworks.
Similarly
has
a
contract
with
the
city
that
we've
had
for
the
past.
K
I
think
for
maybe
going
on
five
years
now
and
we
have
a
variety
of
things
that
fall
under
that
contract
next
slide.
Please,
or
do
I
have
control?
No,
I
don't
know
if
I
do
okay,
no,
I
don't
so.
The
areas
that
we
work
in
include
litter
abatement,
litter
prevention
and
control
through
volunteer
cleanups
and
waste
reduction
events,
including
hard
to
recycle
and
composting
workshops,
pollinator
plantings
and
education
and
urban
forestry
events
and
education.
Next
slide,
please.
K
As
far
as
litter
abatements
go,
as
you
all
know,
we've
had
two
kind
of
unprecedented
years
with
the
pandemic,
and
so
that
greatly
reduced
the
number
of
volunteers
that
we've
been
able
to
organize
on
our
cleanups
by
way
of
comparison
in
fy
19.
During
the
same
period
of
time,
we
had
1400
over
1400
volunteers
and
almost
100
roadside
cleanups
the,
and
that
doesn't
include
we
also
do
a
lot
of
river
cleanups,
and
so
that
doesn't
include
those
those
are
not
included
in
this
contract.
K
So
we
don't
count
them
for
this
purpose,
but
we
do
many
more
of
those
as
well,
so
we're
we
usually
work
with
3
500
volunteers
a
year
and
so
we're
the
pandemic,
hit
us
hard
in
terms
of
gathering
in
groups
and
having
large
events.
K
We
were
able
to
distribute
countertop
compost,
totes
and
hog
wire
composting,
bins,
static,
bins
for
the
backyard
to
many
folks
who
attended
those
workshops
and
they
really
had
to
want
them
because
they
we
had
all
virtual
workshops
in
the
past
past
a
year
or
so,
and
so
they
were
obligated
if
they
wanted
them
to
come
to
our
office
and
make
us
an
arrangement
to
pick
them
up.
K
So
we
did
give
out,
probably
over
a
hundred
of
those
also
did
a
social
media
campaign
called
leave
the
leaves
so
that
folks
were
leaving
their
leaves
on
the
ground
rather
than
raking
them
up
or
blowing
them
and
putting
them
into
the
compost
or
leaf
collection
just
because
they're
great
homes
for
pollinators
to
overwinter
and
also
provide
nutrients
for
the
ground,
but
leave
the
leaves.
We
also
were
looking
at
using
paper
bag
yard
waste
bags,
instead
of
plastic,
so
that
they
can
be
composted
along
with
the
leaves
if
they
are
composted.
K
We
have
educational
videos
on
plastics
reduction,
the
transfer
station,
the
path
of
trash,
so
lots
of
those
can
be
found
on
our
youtube
channel
that
we've
put
together
and
are
still
using.
So
we'll
release
them
every
so
often
and
remind
people
that
they're
there
recycling
cart.
Tagging
has
to
do
with
going
into
a
neighborhood
and
doing
a
survey
going
cart
to
cart
on
recycling
day
before
they're
picked
up
and
seeing
if
there
is
any
visible
contamination,
so
anything
that
shouldn't
be
in
there.
K
So
that
was
just
done
this
week
we
have
some
volunteers
here
from
colleges
on
alternative
spring
breaks
and
an
army
of
them
went
out
on
wednesday
early
wednesday
morning,
seven
o'clock
before
the
recycling's
picked
up
too.
Oh,
that
was
today
to
do
a
survey
and
tag
the
cart.
G
Yeah,
sorry,
if
I
missed
this,
but
do
you
typically
target
certain
neighborhoods
when
you
do
that
or
how
does
how
do
you
guys
choose
where
to
go.
K
Yeah
we
work
with
the
city
of
asheville
sanitation,
department
and
kirby,
who
does
the
recycling
pickups
to
see
where
there's
you
know,
whatever
the
hot
spots
that
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
contamination.
So
that's
that's.
How
we're
targeting
there
we've
also
had
targeted
recycling
outreach
education
for
the
public
housing
developments,
starting
in
2016
through
efforts
of
greenworks,
the
public
housing
development
began
to
get
recycling
for
the
first
time,
and
we
did
a
big
push
for
education
at
that
time
and
then
just
recently
did
another
push
for
education
in
partnership
with
residents
in
hillcrest.
K
K
They
we
collect
things
like
tvs,
electronics,
styrofoam
batteries
and
hard
covered
books
and
cardboard,
and
all
sorts
of
things
that
aren't
recyclable
in
your
curbside
bin,
and
so
we
hold
them
six
times
a
year
four
times
in
buncombe,
county
and
two
times
in
henderson
county
there's,
two
events
that
are
covered
for
asheville
it
would
that
occur
within
the
city
limits
and
are
covered
as
part
of
this
grant
and
those
events
are
just
becoming
more
and
more
popular.
K
We
had
a
hard
time
running
them
during
the
height
of
the
pandemic,
and
we
had
to
kind
of
streamline
our
operations
and
rely
less.
We
usually
have
like
40
to
60
volunteers.
We
had
at
one
event
we
had
10
staff.
That
was
it
so
it
was
kind
of
hard
to
do,
but
but
we've
already
collected
this
year
alone
since
july,
40
tons
of
of
waste,
so
over
82
000
tons
pounds
of
waste
next
slide.
Please.
K
For
our
pollinator
outreach
and
education
we
asheville
the
city
of
asheville
is
the
home
of
b
city
usa.
It
started
here
in
2012
and
greenworks
is
working
in
partnership
with
the
city
to
maintain
that
affiliate
status
that
asheville
has
so
and
then
we
also
greenworks
has
its
own
pollinator
programming.
K
We
started
in
2020,
we
started
a
certified
pollinator
habitat
program
and
we
already
have
we're
we're
close
to
reaching
100
gardens
we're
at
like
98
or
99,
and
the
100th
garden.
That's
certified
will
receive
a
big
gift
package
from
reems
creek
nursery.
So
if
you
want
to
certify
your
your
garden,
you
might
be
that
person
who
wins
that
package.
K
K
We
also
helped
install
two
pollinator
habitats
on
the
wilma
dikeman
greenway
one
before
it
was
named,
the
wilma
dietman
greenway.
We
call
it
the
rad,
hab,
pollinator
garden
and
then
a
more
naturalized
meadow
is
located
closer
to
gene
webb
park.
On
the
wilma,
dikeman
greenway
next
slide,
please
our
urban
forestry
program.
K
We
actually
don't
do
under
our
contract
with
the
city
we
don't
plant
trees,
which
is,
is
interesting,
but
all
of
that's
not
financially
supported
by
the
city
of
asheville.
But
we
work
closely
with
the
the
city
on
many
things
related
to
urban
forestry,
including
helping
to
maintain
the
tree
city,
usa,
certification,
since
1979.
K
We
held
four
public
workshops
on
urban
forestry
and
then
we're
looking
forward
to
one
that
will
be
on
site
in
person
for
specifically
for
developers
to
learn
about
the
planting
standards
and
specifications
especially
related
to
the
urban
tree.
Can
the
tree
protection
canopy
ordinance
tree
canopy
protection
organisms?
Get
that
in
order,
so
that
will
be.
That
will
be
good
for
helping
people
to
really
understand
what
goes
into
properly
planting
and
maintaining
vegetation
on
site
during
development.
K
We're
also,
we
had
an
intern
from
unca
who
worked
with
us.
This
past
fall
on
researching
the
connections
between
different
city
plans,
including
the
comprehensive
plan
and
the
sustainability
management
plan
and
a
potential
urban
forest
master
plan,
so
seeing
how
an
urban
forest
master
plan
can
further
the
goals
of
the
existing
city
plans.
K
We
facilitate
the
tree
protection
task
force,
which
is
a
group
of
individuals
who
are
interested
in
protecting
trees
in
asheville
and
have
done
things
such
as
put
together
in
the
past
have
put
together
the
climate
change
in
asheville's
urban
forest
symposium
at
the
end
of
2019,
and
have
also
been
actively
engaged
in
advocating
for
legislation
to
be
passed,
such
as
the
tree
canopy
protection
ordinance
and
the
zero
net
loss
tree
canopy
resolution
we
also
have
developed
for
for
schools
and
students,
lesson
plans
and
educational
videos
that
were
really
helpful
during
the
pandemics
and
we
kind
of
relied
on
them
to
get
our
message
out
there
and
now
have
just
become
part
of
our
educational
program.
K
B
D
I
do
yep
go
ahead,
good.
I
want
to
go
back
to
the
the
recycling
and
the
volunteers
that
you
have
to
check
check
that
stuff.
I
I
actually
drove
by
in
our
neighborhood
when
some
volunteers
were
swarming
around
not
mine,
but
it
made
me
very
nervous
and
made
me
want
to
rush
home
and
make
sure
I'd
done
things
right
do
do
you
have
a
sense
of
how
well
or
poorly
the
community
is
doing
in
recycling
and
is
when
you
find
that
there
are
problems?
K
Yes,
yes,
so
the
cart
tagging
that
we
do,
that
the
volunteers
do
is
all
part
of
a
campaign
called
recycle
right.
K
That
is
done
across
north
carolina
and
there
are
cards
that
come
along
with
well
on
the
cart
tag,
it's
so
a
picture,
a
door
hanger
piece
of
paper
that
you
know
gets
hung
on
a
doorknob,
but
they
go
on
the
cart
and
it
does
have
pictures
of
what
you
can
recycle
on
it
and-
and
there
are
a
there's,
a
checklist
of
things
like
if
you
did
something
wrong-
that's
checked
off
specifically,
and
so
you
know
like
okay
well,
next
time,
don't
put
plastic
bags
in
your
recycling.
K
That
kind
of
thing
and
the
cart
taggers
go
back
to
the
same
neighborhood
to
weeks
later,
to
see,
if
there's
any
difference,
why.
D
I
I
will
say
if
you
can
hear
yeah.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
kyra.
My
sort
of
my
first
question
is
how
how
badly
or
or
or
well
are
people
is
this
a
big
problem,
because
I
I
will
tell
you
honestly
some
things
I've.
D
K
K
As
it's
sorting
and
you
know,
shut
down,
the
equipment
costs
a
lot
of
money
to
remove,
and
so-
and
you
know
there
is
a
time
in
the
county
and
still
sometimes
this
is
happening
where
those
blue,
clear
recycling
bags
were
like
that's
what
you
would
put
your
recycling
in,
and
so
we've
had
tours
of
kirby.
So
people
can
see
like
this
is
what
happens
with
your
recycling,
and
so
that
is
like
a
major
thing.
K
But
that
is
the
wrong
wrong
approach,
because,
like
things
like
a
cups,
plastic
cups
cannot
be
recycled
in
in
buncombe
county,
and
so
but
people
come
here
from
all
over
and
bring
their
recycling
practices.
You
know
from
new
york
or
california,
where
these
things
could
be
recycled
and
are
mucking
up
the
the
whole
system
here,
because
those
can't
be
recycled
so
learning
you
know
that
card
that
kira
just
put
up
on
the
screen.
We
have
lots
of
those
types
of
cards
on
our
on
our
website.
K
C
Yeah,
what
about
bottle
tops
or
tops
to
plastic
jars?
Are
those
supposed
to
be
left
off
or
put
on.
K
They're
supposed
to
be
thrown
out
here,
no
lids,
no
caps,
there's
that's
the
guidance
now
it
didn't
used
to
be
that
way,
but
that's
the
guidance
now
they
just
end
up
blown
out
of
the
machinery
onto
the
floor
of
the
recycling
facility
yeah,
and
I
saw
that
pop
up
in
the
chat.
K
Yeah
there's
a
tool
on
the
city's
website
called
asheville
waste
wizard,
and
you
put
in
something
that
you
want
to
know
if
it
can
be
recycled
and
it'll
tell
you
whether
and
where
it
can
be
recycled
or
not,
and
we
get
90
percent
of
the
calls
that
we
get
at
greenworks
are
about.
Can
I
recycle
this,
and
so
we've
been
sending
people
to
the
waste
wizard,
but
all
you
know
all
sorts
of
things:
cds,
x-rays,
you
name
it
so.
K
K
We
have
put
a
priority
on
making
sure
things
are
recycled
domestically
so
that
our
e-waste
isn't
ending
up
polluting
another
country
or
being
hazardous
hazardously
disassembled
by
children
somewhere,
and
so
the
tvs
and
electronics
are
collected
by
biltmore
iron
and
metal
company
and
they
manage
the
recycling
of
those
materials
taking
out
the
metal
and
disposing
of
the
plastic
parts.
K
Styrofoam
gets
taken
to
dart
and
that
is
styrofoam
is
carted
away
there.
Now
we
have
someone
in
our
community
who
recently
received
a
grant
to
purchase
a
densifier,
a
mobile
densifier.
So
that's
what
happens
with
styrofoam,
it's
mostly
air,
and
it
gets
squished
down
to
little
pellets
once
it's
densified
and
then
it
gets
recycled
into
new
plastic
products.
But
if
we
could
have
a
densifier
on
site
at
these
hard
to
recycle
events,
we
would
cut
out
the
middleman
of
the
having
to
ship.
K
K
I
think
the
city
of
hendersonville
or
henderson
county
has
also
looked
into
investing
in
that
technology.
So
yeah,
that's
the
big.
It
seems
like
a
shame
to
have
this
recycling
event
and
then
have
a
carbon
footprint
of
shipping.
All
this
styrofoam
to
another
location
to
be
recycled.
K
Yeah-
and
I
think
I
mean
the
curt
the
cardboard
and
stuff
gets
recycled
locally.
We
also
have
a
terracycle
which
takes
things
like
toothpaste,
tubes
and
other
things
like
that.
But
you
have
to
look
on
our
list.
We
get
a
lot
of
people
bringing
household,
hazardous
waste
and
paint
to
our
events,
and
you
know
just
gotta.
Look
at
the
website,
look
at
the
list
and
see
what
we
take
and
don't
take
our
next
one
is
gonna,
be
not
in
buncombe
county,
but
at
blue
ridge
community
college
on
april,
2nd,
maggie.
J
Yeah,
I
just
I
have
a
question
about
and
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
wishful
thinking
question,
but
has
there
ever
been
any
discussion
of
having
a
like
a
permanent
hard
to
recycle
location
that
could
house
things
for
a
longer
period
of
time?
And
I
realize
there's
a
you
know:
budget
issue
there
and
where
do
you
do
that
and
everything?
But
that
seems
like
one
of
the
biggest
problems
from
my
personal
perspective
is
I'm
I'm
like
and
I
think,
from
a
lot
of
people.
J
I've
spoken
with,
like
I'm
holding
on
to
this,
like
small
amount
of
this
thing,
and
this
small
amount
of
this
thing
and
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
where
I
can
bring
it
and
I've
got
to
hang
on
to
that
for
six
months
and
in
the
meantime,
it's
like
rolling
around
in
my
trunk.
Well,
you
know,
there's
all
kinds
of
logistical
things
there
and
like
it
seems
like
maybe
there's
an
opportunity
where
you
know
kirby
or
the
other.
J
You
know
contractors
with
the
city
just
can't
handle
some
of
that
stuff
right
now
and
maybe
that's
a
good
stepping
stone,
and
I
no
you
don't
have
the
answer
to
that
right
now
and
it's
like
a
big
question,
but
it
just
putting
that
idea
out
there
as
yeah.
J
We
should,
I
feel
like
as
safety
members
and
other
people
should
throw
our
way
behind
and
try
to
support
that
concept
for
asheville,
especially
with
the
population
growing
as
it
is,
and
the
budget
for
the
sanitation
department
remaining
the
same
for
the
past
seven
years
and
already
being
underfunded.
And
you
know
yeah
yeah.
K
A
little
bit
of
an
answer
for
that.
Yes,
that
would
be
good.
There
are
places
where
you
can
take
some
of
these
things
already,
not
the
styrofoam,
but
electronics
and
tvs
you
can
take
to
build
more
iron
and
metal.
You
can
take
to
the
the
landfill
there's
a
fee
involved
in
the
in
recycling
tvs.
K
You
can
take
your
large
cardboard
or
hardcover
books
to
kirby
it's,
but
then
you're
traveling
all
over
the
county,
instead
of
just
to
one
event,
and
I
recently
went
to
atlanta-
and
I
saw
they
have
kind
of
the
hard
to
recycle
location.
That's
open
all
the
time
and
it's
massive.
K
I
don't
know
that
we
have
the
land
that
the
county
or
the
city
would
be
willing
to
dedicate
to
that
use
and
that
stuff
has
to
go
somewhere.
I
mean
there
there's
other
costs
involved
with
that
we've
been
asked
to
do.
You
know
we
we
already
do
six
heart
recycles
a
year.
We've
been
asked
to
do
them
like.
K
Why
don't
you
eat
every
month
and
it's
just
a
tremendous
amount
of
work
that
goes
into
it
with
all
the
you
know,
mostly
volunteers,
but
there's
just
so
much
work
that
goes
into
it,
and
so
like
we're,
really
working
on
not
doing
hard
to
recycles
and
kind
of
getting
to
the
point
where
there
are
there
aren't
the
materials
that
need
to
be
taken
care
of.
In
that
way,
you
know
we're
not
going
to
recycle
our
way
out
of
the
problems
that
we
have
with
waste
in
our
society.
K
You
know
alternatives
to
things
like
styrofoam,
and
I
know
that
they're
out
there
already,
but
that
needs
to
become
more
widespread,
and
I
I
honestly
think
that
by
giving
people
the
hard
to
recycle
opportunity
for
styrofoam,
it's
just
like
well,
I
can
keep
using
styrofoam
and
getting
things
with
styrofoam
and
I'll
have
a
place
to
put
it.
You
know
I
can
have
my
chick-fil-a
and
eat
it
too,
rather
than
just
getting
rid
of
the
the
styrofoam
stuff
in
the
first
place,
but
I
could
go
on
and
on
so
I'll
just
cut
myself
off
there.
K
But
if
there's
any
more
questions-
or
if
you
want
to
contact
me,
you
can
reach
me
at
dawn.
Ashevillegreenworks.Org.
J
Just
on
that
note,
I
know
that
where
the
shop
downtown
has
recently
increased
some
of
their
their
recycling,
they
take
wine
corks.
Now
they
take,
they
collect
hair
recycling
materials
and
a
few
other
programs
like
that.
But
again
you
know
it's
it's
a
tiny
amount
of
stuff
that
you're
struggling
to
recycle
versus
this
ocean
of
waste.
As
you
say,
that's
just
non-stop.
K
We
have
mind
your
plastic
may
coming
up,
so
we
do
that
where
we're
encouraging
eliminating
single-use
plastics
from
your
life
all
month,
long
and
hopefully
for
beyond
that
as
well,
and
so
we
also
have
a
plastics
reduction
task
force
that
meets.
You
know
trying
to
get
back
up
to
meeting
more
regularly
now
that
restrictions
are
lifting,
that's
advocating
for
reductions
in
single
waste,
single-use
plastic
waste.
K
But
thank
you
all
for
having
me
here
today
and
I'll
sit
back
and
listen
again.
A
B
H
Hi
everybody
again,
I'm
I'm
going
to
keep
this
short,
but
there
were
some
questions
because
at
our
last
meeting,
vadilla
gave
a
another
presentation
about
the
open
space
amendment
and
maggie,
and
I
have
been
attending
about
16
meetings
over
the
past
year
and
I
I
just
wanted
to
say
it's
still
a
little
foggy.
So
as
of
right
now,
stacy
has
not
taken
a
position
on
that
amendment,
so
I'm
not
advocating
either
way.
H
I
just
wanted
to
let
everybody
know
that
it's
it's
still
unresolved
and
certain
groups
have
taken
a
no
position
like
the
neighborhood
councils
and
the
urban
forest
commission
and
greenworks
has
also
actually
issued
a
statement
against
it.
But
I
guess
I
I'm
opening
it
up
if
anybody
has
any
questions,
but
it
is
in
fact
very
hard
to
understand,
as
you
probably
noticed
from
last
meeting's
presentation,.
D
H
Sure
what
the
protocol
is
on
this,
I
feel,
like
maybe
you're
not
allowed.
Okay.
A
Right
generally
is
just
for
safety
members.
H
Yeah,
sorry,
hopefully
in
the
future,
when
we
have
maybe
hybrid
hybrid,
whatever
ways,
a
mode
of
delivery,
we
can
have
public
comment
more
like
real
life.
K
H
Okay,
so
anyway,
stacy
as
of
right
now
has
not
taken
a
position
and
maggie,
and
I
are
the
subcommittee,
but
it's
it's
so
hard
to
understand
that
I
think
I'm.
I
would
be
nervous
to
take
a
position
at
this
point.
Chris
has
a
question.
H
Yeah,
I
believe
there
actually
was
one
more
change
in
that,
and
so
some
of
my
hesitation
is
actually
like
point
of
process
because
it
actually
has
not
been
a
consensus
process
and,
and
it
keeps
kind
of
getting
amended
on
the
fly
and
not
going
back
to
the
full
committee.
H
So
there
was,
I
heard
through
the
grapevine
that
there
was
one
more
amendment
sort
of
in
another
meeting
that
I
did
not
attend.
So
so
it's
still
a
I
said,
a
living
document.
I
would
say.
H
G
A
follow-up
question,
too,
is
this:
maybe
a
reminder
or
I'm
not
sure,
if
that's
the
right
word,
but
is
there
a
timeline
that
someone's
shooting
for
as
it
relates
to
having
this
completed.
H
I
mean
vadilla
is
trying
to
take
it
to
city
council
like
kind
of
asap,
but
I
think
that's
why
some
of
the
committee
members
were
feeling
kind
of
rushed
and
that
there
wasn't
consensus.
So
I
it's
unclear
it
was
going
to
go
in
february.
Then
it
got
delayed.
So
I'm
not
actually
sure
on
on
what
the
current
next
step
is
sorry
to
not
be
clear
about
this.
G
B
Well,
I
have
a
note
here
from
sage
indicating
that
she
was
sorry
she
she's
unable
to
attend.
Today,
she'll
watch
the
presentations
later
online.
B
B
B
A
Right
so
I
would
say
you
can
reach
out
as
individuals,
but
since
we
didn't
put
this
as
an
agenda
item,
there
can't
be
like
a
collective
vote
on
something
to
move
forward.
Unfortunately,.
A
And
that's
why
we
had
our
annual
report
that
stacy
put
together.
We,
if
you
were
a
call,
we
moved
up
the
date
from
when
we
had
previously
done
it
before,
so
that
could
be
a
part
of
that
conversation.
A
I
J
A
Yes,
hi
everybody
energy
program,
coordinator
from
the
office
of
sustainability
and,
as
stacey
knows,
and
probably
all
of
our
community
partners
and
members
of
the
public,
but
amber
weaver,
who
is
currently
our
chief
sustainability
officer,
has
taken
a
new
position
with
the
urban
sustainability
directors
network,
and
so
she
will
be
leaving
the
city
at
the
end
of
this
month.
A
We
don't
have
a
transition
plan
in
place
at
this
moment
in
time,
but
I
will
keep
you
all
posted
as
that
work
unfolds,
and
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
she
wasn't
able
to
join
us
today.
She
got
her
wisdom,
teeth
pulled
so
she's
watching
ouch
right
and
also
that
there's
an
opportunity
to
both
say
goodbye
to
amber
weaver
and
also
celebrate
some
of
our
youth.
A
I
believe
you
got
a
flyer
with
your
packet
this
week,
but
on
saturday
from
five
to
seven
there's
a
reception
at
ymi.
So,
as
some
of
you
may
have
recalled
that
during
the
climate
justice
initiative
work,
there
was
some
work
with
the
youth
to
talk
about
climate
and
kind
of
how
that
shows
up
and
it
can
be
an
express
through
art.
And
so
our
youth
has
put
together
an
exhibit
that
will
be
on
display
at
the
asheville
art
museum.
A
I'm
not
entirely
sure
how
long
the
exhibit
will
be
up.
Kyra
might
be
able
to
answer
that
question,
but
on
saturday
the
museum
is
actually
free
for
community
members,
but
you
can
stop
by
another
time,
if
that's
more
convenient
for
you
and
then
again,
there'll
be
this
reception
and
amber
will
be
there.
So
if
you
want
to
say
goodbye
and
also
celebrate
our
community,
that
would
be
a
really
great
opportunity.
A
The
other
thing
I
wanted
to
tell
you
about,
which
was
also
something
that
kind
of
floated
around
there's
a
link
to
an
article
on
our
meeting
folder,
which
is
posted
online
as
well
as
send
out
a
link
that
talks
about
the
boards
and
commissions
restructure
that
is
currently
kind
of
in
development
and
underway.
So
I
know
I
think
ann
and
anna
have
participated
in
some
of
those
sessions
and
I
will
put
a
link
in
the
chat
for
the
public
input
page.
A
E
I
worry
a
little
bit
about
going
from
28
down
to
four,
it's
a
big
jump,
and
secondly,
I
worry
about
this
concept
of
working
groups,
which
still
seems
very
muddy
to
me,
as
I
listen
to
the
second
one.
I
I
don't
quite
get
it
to
me.
It's
not
exactly
like
having
a
specialties
task
force
who
knows
stuff,
and
you
say:
could
you
sort
this
out
and
come
back
there?
The
proposal
is
to
have
a.
E
Now
to
manage
so
while
the
idea
may
be
good
in
some
ways
it
it.
I
just
feel
like
it's
not
going
to
work
well
that
way
at
all.
So
I
don't
know
if
anna
had
any
more
thoughts
about
that,
but
but
I've
expressed
it
and
they've
now
set
up
a
this
is
believe
me.
I
had
a
whole
career
in
government.
So
it's
okay
for
me
to
say
this.
E
This
is
the
epitome
of
government
and
government
they're
going
to
have
a
working
group
on
working
groups,
so
I
decided
I
wasn't
going
to
be
on
that,
but
it
might
be
something
anna's
going
to
do.
I
don't
know
anna.
B
I
the
only
input
I
wanted
to
to
contribute
was
you
know,
I
think
the
goal
of
this
is
to
help
like
bridget
said
just
have
more
communication
across
all
boards
and
in
order
to
do
that,
narrowing
narrow
wing,
the
the
amount
of
people
that
are
advisors
to
city
council
is
probably
a
good
idea.
I'm
not
I.
I
think
that
shutting
it
down
too
much
may
present
a
problem
of
transparency,
and
I
that's
what
I've
heard
from
the
public
that
has
kind
of
resounded
in
me
is
yeah.
B
E
And
I
think
their
solution,
anna
is
to
add
working
groups
and
then
being
able
to
have
all
these
other
people.
But
I
feel
like
that's,
going
to
be
a
juggling
act
that
we're
all
going
to
struggle
with,
and
I
think
the
concept
was
to
make
four
groups
of
commissions
for
commissions
that
would
feed
directly
into
city
council,
similar
groups.
E
So
they
would
bunch
the
topics
for
the
city
council
in
four
topic
areas,
and
then
each
of
the
committee
commissions,
whatever
they're
going
to
be
called,
would
fit
into
one
of
those.
The
idea
being.
There
is
much
better
connection
between
city
council
and
the
commissions
better
support,
supposedly
from
staff.
Maybe
three
people
rather
than
one
and
more
involvement
from
the
liaisons.
E
That's
what
the
that's
one
of
the
the
in
their
mind
anyway.
Good
ideas
about
this.
I
don't
know
I
still
feel
really.
B
B
Yeah
I'm
curious
to
see
what
the
outcome
looks
like
and
how
engaged
we
can
all
continue
to
be
in
the
future,
but
I
think
these
working
groups
we've
been
able
to
you
know
express
those
concerns,
and
I
think
the
city
has
done
a
good
job
of
holding
these.
B
These
workshops
to
hear
us
out
in
ahead
of
time.
So
they
can
address
those
concerns
down
the
road.
So
we'll
see
we'll
keep
you
all
posted.
Are
there
any
questions.
A
If
there's
no
questions
I'll
just
say
you
know
I'll,
try
and
be
sending
out
emails
when
there's
additional
opportunities
to
come
up
and
engage,
but
again
like
that
public
input
page
is
there
for
historical
knowledge
to
date
and
like
future
opportunities,
so
please
feel
free
to
plug
in
that
way
and
then
the
last
thing
I
wanted
to
check
in
on
was
a
virtual
meeting.
So
some
of
you
know,
city
council,
has
gone
back
to
meeting
in
person
at
this
point
in
time.
A
The
city
doesn't
have
the
capacity
for
all
the
boards
and
commissions
to
do
in-person
meetings
that
are
also
then
live
streamed
and
so
we're
staying
virtual
at
this
time.
As
soon
as
I
get
more
information,
then
I
can
check
in
with
you
all
to
see
where
your
comfort
level
is
and
interest,
as
we
have
that
opportunity,
hopefully
in
the
near
future.
So
that's
all
I
had
chris
got
a
question.
G
A
There
will
be
at
some
point,
I
don't
think
that's
been
that
date
has
been
identified.
I
think
it's
still
in
the
data
gathering
situation,
so
I
think
there
will
probably
be
more
opportunities,
but
at
this
point
I'm
I
don't
know
what
the
next
steps
are.
Okay,.
E
Yeah
because
I
think
it's
a
long
way
off
from
being
any
decision
point,
I
think
there's
so
much
so
many
questions
and
thoughts
and
and
concerns
and
input
that
I
think
it'll
take
a
while,
and
so
you
should
be
able
to
get
an
opportunity
to
be
involved
if
you
want
to
and
then
whenever
they
decide
they're
talking
about,
I,
as
I
would
call
bridgette
a
fairly
lengthy
transition.
It's
not
like
one
day,
they're
gonna
dissolve
all
the
commissions
and
start
from
scratch.
E
G
B
And
going
back
to
the
conversation
about
staying
virtual
from
what
I
understand,
we're
still
going
to
try
to
maintain
meetings
every
other
month.
Is
that
correct
bridges.
B
E
I'm
gonna
try
to
be
there
anna.
I
think
it
would
be
really
fun.
A
We
can't
hear
you
michael
also,
and
I
sent
you-
we
did
receive
three
written
public
comments-
oh
okay,
great,
so
I
did
send
them
to
you.
They
are
quite
there's
some
lengthy
in
there.
So
if
you
want
to
read
those
leave
up
on
your
court,
they
will
be
linked
in
their
meeting
minutes
too.
B
There's
an
item
on
the
agenda.
You
have
to
ask
ahead
of
time
to
add
to
the
agenda,
but
you
should
certainly
ask
a
question
right
now.
If
you
have
something
yeah.
C
Okay,
good,
I
I
have
a
question
the
reason
I
have
this
picture
in
the
background.
It's
all
about
electric
police
cars
and
the
city
you
know
has
700
vehicles.
We
don't
know
how
many
police,
where
they're
located
my
understanding
is.
We
don't
have
the
good
data,
telematics
data
or
adl
data
is
to
miles
travel,
etc.
So
there
it
makes
it
very
difficult
to
determine
how
our
vehicles,
which
you
know,
have
a
20
million
dollar
capital
investment
and
certainly
an
extraordinary
amount
of
multi-million
dollar
annual
cost
could
be
replaced
with
electric
versions.
C
Some
of
you
may
have
seen
recently
like
new
york
city
has
just
purchased
185
of
the
mustang
mock
e
electric
cars
for
police
and
then
a
250
tesla,
and
they
all
they
did
that
because
it
turns
out
that
they're,
better
in
performance,
they're,
cheaper
and
they're,
safer
and
faster,
and
so
I'm
wondering
how
this?
C
C
B
So
I
don't
think
anybody
is
prepared
to
answer
your
question
right
now.
I
think
maybe
the
the
appropriate
avenue
for
that
discussion
would
maybe
be
starting
with
one
of
our
working
groups
and
then
we
can
build
on
it
from
there
and
potentially
add
it
to
the
agenda,
but
I
think
I
mean
I'm
certainly
interested
in
it
myself.
So
I
think.
C
C
G
Anybody,
I
guess
I'll
add
you
know,
michael
this.
This
topic
came
up
on
previous
calls.
G
I
can't
remember
exactly
when,
and
I
think
it
may
have
been
a
working
group
whatever
we
call
ourselves,
you
know,
because
there
was
a
micro
group
micro
grid
group,
I'm
not
sure
if
you're
familiar
with
that
group,
michael
that
you
know,
has
has
presented
to
the
city,
and
you
know
there
was
a
discussion
about
the
new
fire
station
down
on
on
broadway,
and
I
think,
if
I'm
not
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
city,
but
I
think
what
was
happening
was
that
you
know
we
had
a
great
opportunity
to
try
to
plan
for
future
fleet
electrification.
G
But
no
one
came
to
the
table
to
offer
some
good
rules
of
thumb
that
they
might
be
able
to
consider
knowing
the
fact
that
they
were
going
to
put
the
shovels
in
the
ground
in
a
couple
months,
and
so
you
know,
I
think
you
know
again.
I
think
we're
a
little
bit
behind
the
eight
ball
as
it
relates
to
how
we
can
plan
for
this.
G
G
At
least
that
was
my
take
away
from
it
and
you
know
I'm
sure,
there's
oodles
of
conversations
we
could
have
around
the
idea
of
like
okay.
If
we're
going
to
get
300
cars
like
where
do
they
get
charged,
you
know
who's
going
to
own
that
infrastructure
and
I
feel,
like
those,
are
really
hard
questions
and
I
think
that's
a
requirement
as
it
relates
to
the
fact.
G
If
you're
going
to
choose
to
buy
a
vehicle
or
not,
you
got
a
plan
for
it
right,
but
I
haven't
been
involved
in
any
other
conversations
outside
of
the
micro
grid
group
allison,
I'm
not
sure
if
you
were
going
to
add
to
that
or
why
not.
C
H
Sorry,
michael
and
I
are
both
in
the
micro
grid
group,
so
so
yeah.
I
I
think
it's
an
energy
subcommittee,
don't
we
have
an
energy
subcommittee,
so
I
think
it
sounds
like
the
micro
grid
group
needs
to
be
synergizing
with
that
subcommittee.
H
B
Yeah,
thank
you.
I
liked
that
email
that
you
sent
earlier
today
and
we
have
been
doing
that
in
the
past.
I'm
not
sure
why
I
think
we
just
the
climate
group
hasn't
had
much
to
report
on,
so
we
we
wouldn't
have
had
anything
to
report
on,
but
I
certainly
think
having
that
space
on
the
agenda
in
future
meetings
is
really
important,
especially.
B
C
All
right
I'll
I'll
draft
the
memo
and
send
it
around
to
the
list
of
energy
committee.
Folks
I
mean
it
has
relevance.
Obviously
the
climate
and
I
don't
know
the
other
working
groups,
but
that's
another
case
where
it
may
be.
Multi-Working
group
interest
or
insights.
A
So
yeah,
I
was
just
gonna
remind
you,
since
you
knew
michael
that
you
might
not
know
this,
but
you
can
send
something
out
to
the
whole
group,
but
we
can't
do
reply
all
because
that
is
like
discussion
and
deliberation
which
needs
to
happen
in
the
public
space.
So
just
and
all
so
fyi
when
we
yeah.
When
we
have
these
conversations,
we
just
need
to
make
sure
that
they
happen
in
a
properly
public
noticed
way.
So
you
can
send
out
whatever
you
want.
C
And
does
that
apply
the
same
with
sending
to
each
working
group
members
same
thing,
I
sent
it
out
to
half
a
dozen
members
of
a
working
woman.
H
B
Okay,
my
battery
is
on
battery
saver
mode
and
I
cannot
find
my
charger.
So
I'm
going
to
start
reading
the
public
comment.
If
I
black
out
you'll,
know
what
happened
to
me.
B
Okay,
first
public
comment
from
alan
escovitz
as
active
community
member
and
neighborhood
leader,
I
suggest
cece
take
a
position
that
strongly
opposes
the
adoption
of
the
open
space
amendment
to
be
discussed
on
your
march
16th
agenda.
The
osa
is
philosophically
the
antithesis
of
stacy's
perceived
mission,
since
it
represents
anti-environment
position
and
serves
only
to
undermine
our
community's
effort.
Efforts
to
promote
needed,
affordable
housing,
asheville's,
affordable
housing
situation
is
worsened
with
prices
far
outstripping
wages.
According
to
data
reviewed
by
the
city
council
during
a
january
26,
affordable,
housing
workshop.
B
The
osa
does
nothing
to
address
this
problem,
since
it
sets
the
ami
at
eighty
percent
rather
than
a
more
realistic,
sixty
percent
or
below
for
our
working
class
population.
According
to
the
bowen
report,
eighteen
point:
nine
percent
of
asheville's
renters
are
severely
cost
burdened
paying
more
than
50
percent
of
their
income
on
housing.
The
osa
will
only
amplify
this
problem.
Finally,
osa
will
have
direct
and
detrimental
impact
on
the
overall
sustainability
of
asheville's
green
infrastructure,
which
stacy's
recommended
policies
support
and
serve
to
protect.
B
Next
comment
from
sharon
sumrall,
I
highly
recommend
that
stacey
oppose
the
open
space
amendment
in
the
recommendation
to
city
council
as
a
member
of
nac
neighborhood
advisory
commission
and
ufc
urban
forestry
commission,
both
of
which
oppose
osa
nac
has
several
concerns.
One
of
them
is
how
anticipated
infill
development
will
continue
to
impact
residential
neighborhoods,
specifically
regarding
buffer
and
tree
canopy,
affordable
housing
and
stormwater
management.
B
B
There
are
also
major
concerns
about
the
increase
of
impermeable
surfaces,
creating
more
heat
island
effects
and
the
general
overall
ambiguity
of
the
osa,
with
stacy's
focus
on
being
in
on
the
environment
and
land
use
planning.
I
would
hope
that
stacy
will
will
concur
the
current
iteration
of
this
ordinance
as
needing
more
clarification
and
broader
community
input.
B
Okay
last
comment:
I
can't
see
the
bottom
who
wrote
it,
but
I
will
read
it.
I
ask
you
to
vote
no
on
the
open
space
amendment,
because
this
proposal
will
undermine
the
goals
of
your
committee
to
promote
sustainable
economic
development
and
sustainable
land
use
planning.
If
implemented
the
open
space.
Amendment
osa
would
lead
asheville
down
a
path
of
unsustainable
economic
development
and
poor
land
use
planning.
B
Urban
planning
dimensions.
The
urban
planning
dimensions
of
this
issue
are
significant,
while
urban
deforestation
and
the
proliferation
of
impervious
surfaces
throughout
the
city
are
promoted
by
the
osa.
The
proposal
also
leaves
asheville
without
a
means
to
compensate
the
city
for
the
loss
of
urban
space.
Urban
canopy
and
ecological
function
caused
by
the
intensified
development.
B
However,
the
osa
fails
to
set
a
policy
on
precisely
how
and
when
open
space
fee
and
lieu
funds
may
and
shall
be
spent
for
the
purchase
of
new
public
lands
for
the
city,
threatening
to
cause
the
city
to
miss
time-sensitive
opportunities
to
purchase
the
best
available
parcels
for
new
public
parks.
This
is
against
the
backdrop
of
a
city
attorney's
office,
opinion
that
instructs
the
city
not
to
spend
its
open
space
fee
and
loop
funds
to
purchase
new
public
property
due
to
ongoing
litigation
over
the
use
of
these
funds.
B
Untangling
the
details
of
the
osa
to
see
a
clear
picture.
Osa
proponents
have
made
an
effort
to
use
the
complexity
of
this
topic
to
muddy
the
waters
and
cover
over
the
environmental
impacts
that
the
proposal
would
clearly
have.
However,
deep
cuts
to
the
open
space
requirements
would
clearly
cause
significant
environmental
impacts
within
city
limits.
To
demonstrate
this
point,
a
few
preliminary
points
are
important
to
note.
B
One
generally
speaking,
open
space
is
defined
as
anywhere
a
developer
can't
put
a
building
parking
lot,
driveway
or
street.
There
are
some
other
exhibit
exemptions
such
as
power
line
gas
pipeline
ride
ways,
but
for
the
sake
of
conversation,
that's
essentially
it
two.
According
to
the
2018
davey
resource
group
study
on
asheville's
urban
canopy,
45
of
the
city
is
covered
in
tree
canopy.
B
Three,
the
osa
would
make
significant
cuts
to
open
space
requirements.
To
give
some
illustrative
examples,
one
relative
to
asheville's
existing
open
space
laws.
The
proposal
would
slash
the
minimum
size
of
open
space
by
up
to
eighty
percent
and
cut
the
total
amount
of
open
space
required
by
up
to
fifty
percent
two.
Once
those
open
space
reductions
are
in
place,
the
osa
would
provide
loopholes
that
would
allow
developers
to
avoid
even
those
meager
requirements.