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A
C
Good
afternoon
I'm
Aaron,
Griffin,
chair
and
I
would
like
to
welcome
you
to
the
December
8
2022
African-American,
Heritage,
commission
virtual
meeting.
We
will
now
call
our
meeting
to
order
this.
The
city
county,
African-American
Heritage
commission,
consists
of
nine
members.
Three
of
those
members
are
appointed
by
Asheville
City
Council,
three
appointed
by
Buncombe
County
Board
of
Commissioners
and
three
are
appointed
by
six
appointed
members.
The
commission
is
to
advise
the
city,
council
and
County
Commissioners
about
the
preservation,
interpretation
and
promotion
of
African-American
arts,
history
and
culture.
C
All
committee
members
and
staff
are
participating.
Virtually
we
are
streaming
live
on
our
virtual
engagement
Hub,
which
is
accessible
through
the
virtual
engagement
Hub
link
on
the
front
page
of
the
city
website,
and
also
linked
on
the
committee
page.
We
also
have
an
option
for
the
public
to
listen,
live
by
phone
by
dialing.
C
855-925-2801
and
enter
in
meeting
code
9409
for
those
of
you
who
plan
to
speak
during
our
live
public
comment
today,
you
would
need
to
hit
star
3
to
be
put
in
the
speaker.
Queue
I
will
now
go
through
and
introduce
all
committee
members
and
staff
who
are
participating
virtually
for
our
committee
members.
Please
make
sure
to
mute
your
microphone
if
you're,
not
speaking
when
you
have
a
question
or
would
like
to
speak,
click
raise
hands.
C
Excuse
me
it's
an
echo
somewhere,
okay
and
when
recognized
by
the
chair
unmute
your
microphone.
Please
remember
to
mute
your
phone
after
you
are
done
speaking.
C
Let's
see
I
think
that's
it.
Staff
and
guest
attendant
is
Brenda
Mills
directory
director
of
equity
and
collusion
city
of
Asheville.
Good
evening
everybody
Leonard
Jones
Community
engagement,
Specialists
Buncombe
County
good
evening.
Everyone.
C
C
To
help
our
audience
follow
along
God,
each
I'll
stay
each
section
of
the
agenda
aloud.
Well,
I
already
did
that,
so
we're
going
to
approve
the
the
minutes
for
November
the
10th.
D
C
All
right
so
we'll
move
on
to
the
what's.
Second
on
the
agenda
is
staff
updates,
and
in
this
section
we
have
Dr
Mullins
to
give
us
an
update
or
any
any
concerns
or
see
how
we
can
help
with
reparations,
and
thank
you,
sir
again,
for
for
joining
us.
Thank
you.
E
I
really
appreciate
this.
You
know
I
I
before
any
the
the
thing
that's
coming
up
that
I
wanted
everyone
to
be
aware
of
is
kind
of
easy
coats.
E
The
author
of
one
of
the
major
essays
he
came
out
in
the
I
believe
the
Atlantic
magazine,
but
the
the
the
the
name
of
the
article
was
the
case
for
reparations
and
that
conversation
that
he's
that
that
article
that
he
wrote
started
the
conversation
that
we
are
now
a
part
of
at
a
national
level,
he'll
be
in
Asheville
UNC
Asheville
is
bringing
him
on
February
the
28th
they
just
today
they
opened
the
invite.
E
The
tickets
are
free,
but
they
did
want
you
to
register
for
it,
he'll
be
on
campus,
and
this
is
I
believe
six
o'clock
in
the
evening
question
and
answer
and
the
rest
of
his
agenda
they
haven't
made
available
yet,
but
Tony
easy
coach
is
coming
and
a
strong
showing
from
the
African-American
Community
is
something
that
I
think
will
strengthen
our
hand
here.
E
His
presence,
as
well
as
a
scrunch
showing
of
the
community
on
campus
for
him,
will
strengthen
the
commission's
hand,
the
reparations
commission
and,
as
we
began,
presenting
recommendations.
E
Art
art
biggest
need
right
now
is
that
the
commission
has
gone
through
a
second.
E
The
facilitates
are,
are
our
meetings
as
well
as
venues
and
those
we've
gotten
a
second
supporter
there
and
it
slowed
things
down,
but
by
the
time
Tony
easy
coach
comes
and
the
new
year
is
here,
we
will
be
submitting
recommendations
to
the
city
that
we
will
need.
Support,
for,
in
fact,
I
can
tell
you
I
can
give
you
a
heads
up
right
now
is
that
it
looks
like
economic.
E
Duke
is
going
to
offer
some
recommendations
to
city
council
and
the
County
Commission
I
believe
Health
Care.
It
has
some
insights.
Education
is,
is
bite
that
the
bit
to
get
going
and
then
we're
looking
for
criminal
justice
as
well
as
housing
of
those
five
areas
where
we're
looking
for
the
community
injuries
received
during
times
like
urban
renewal,
as
well
as
some
other
areas
of
of
our
history
here
in
in
the
city
and
county.
E
We're
looking
for
the
city
and
county
to
make
good
on
its
promise
to
restore
the
health
of
our
community
and
how
we
will
specifically
do
it
is
coming
from
the
commission
and
when
those
become
public
I'll
be
happy
to
send
it
to
you,
for
whatever
you
can
do
to
support
us.
C
Thank
you,
Dr
Mullins
I
appreciate
that
so
I
was
able
to
attend
a
meeting.
The
last
meeting
that
you
guys
had
on
I
think
the
fifth
yeah.
C
One
thing
that
I
was
kind
of
really
concerned
with
I,
don't
know
if
you
was
aware
that
during
the
break
time
the
mic
is
still
live
and
I
don't
know.
If
that's
something
that
we
would
you
know,
I,
don't
I,
don't
know.
If
that's
something
that
we
want.
You
know
I
watched
so
many
other
meetings
and
the
mic
is
muted,
so
I
know
that's
not
a
big
issue,
but
it
can
be.
E
Well,
taken
point
I'll,
be
sure
to
make
sure
that's
addressed.
Yes,
sir
yeah.
B
Let
me
just
step
in
one
minute
and
say:
the
staff
did
not
know
we
were
taking
a
break.
That
was
not
on
the
agenda
so
and
unless
you
step
up
to
a
mic,
you
really
can't
hear
anybody
talking
or
anything
specific
being
said.
So,
if
we're
going
to
take
breaks,
we're
gonna
need
to
put
that
on
us
that
the
tech,
the
tech
folks
will
know
that
so.
E
You
know,
while
people
are
thinking
I
I
wanted
to
say
to
folk
that
I
know
that
there's
criticism
in
the
community.
It
was
taking
us
so
long
to
come
forward
with
material
or
through
getting
anything
done,
and
it
doesn't
look
like
I
know
that
we
talked
to
particularly
Black
Folk,
talking
to
Black
Folk
and
talking
to
white
folk.
E
For
me,
as
those
are
two
different
experiences
white
folk,
don't
think
this
is
necessary
and
I
find
it
a
very
different
audience
and
want
to
talk
to
black
folks
think
that
this
will
never
happen,
and
this
is
a
pie
in
the
sky
conversation
we
are
wasting
our
time.
Let
me
say
to
you
that
we
are
being
watched
across
the
state
now
I'm
getting
calls
from
several
municipalities
and
they're
wondering
how
we
even
got
the
conversation
this
far
on
reparations.
E
So
the
idea
of
engaging
you
know,
conversation
about
the
addressing
of
past
Ron's
begins
with
us
on
addressing
current
disparities
and
I
say
to
critics
to
critics.
E
E
C
So
I
mean
even
to
the
to
the
point
Dr
Mullins
I
know
it.
It
seems
to
me
that
some
of
these
conversations-
I
I,
don't
know
it
I'm
sort
of
doing
the
same
thing
that
I'm
saying
I
shouldn't
be
me
doing,
but
you
have
spoke
a
little
bit
about
implosion.
C
Within
you
know
within
us.
Is
it
somehow
that
that
maybe
we
can
have
this
sort
of
like
a
pre-conversation
before
the
conversation,
so
we
can
get
all
these
things
out,
so
it
don't
look
like
it
comes
out.
So
the
world
can
see
yeah.
E
Yeah
I
do
I
completely
understand
it.
We
were,
we
we've
been
handling
this
on
the
fly
so
to
speak,
and
we
were
advised
even
by
legal
or
the
lawyers
City
and
County
lawyers
teams
that
one
way
that
we
could
approach.
This
is
by
having
conversations
that
which
we
don't
have
a
quorum
of
of
of
Commissioners
present.
E
If
we
don't
have
a
quorum,
Christian's
presence,
our
public
meeting
requirements
go
by
the
wayside
and
it
allows
us
to
talk
frankly
as
a
family
within
family
ranks
and
I
think
we
might
end
up
taking
that
that
approach,
because
some
of
the
conversations
even
about
substantive
issues,
what
are
reparations
and
who
gets
it,
and
what's
this
all
about
or
relationships
with
each
other,
that
we
have
not
spoken
to
each
other
within
our
community,
sometimes
the
presence
of
the
faith
community.
E
It
came
up
during
one
of
the
meetings
I
mean
if
you
there's
an
absence
of
of
the
churches
on
this
commission,
and
you
know.
So
there
are
a
number
of
points
that
we
need
to
talk
about,
and
one
way
to
talk
about.
This
is
Community
engagement
at
the
sub
public
level.
I
don't
know
if
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense,
but
we've
actually
been
to
discussing
that
how
to
do
it.
C
E
Know
what
I'm
saying
I
remember:
I
and
I
and
I
I.
Wasn't
sure
I
really
appreciate
you
bringing
this
up
because
I
wasn't
sure
if
anyone
was
listening
to
me,
it's
hard
when
you're
running
a
meet
like
that,
but
I
wanted
to
say
to
people
that,
as
as
many
difficulties
as
we
are
confronting
and
as
difficult
as
this
process
is
and
as
often
as
we
are
full
of
insights
in
terms
of
how
we
are
not
doing
the
job.
E
Let's
reverse
that
Trend
suppose
we
actually
present
recommendations
that
speak
to
the
heart
of
what
we
are
talking
about,
repairing
here
in
Asheville
in
Buckner
County.
Suppose
we
actually
say
to
folk.
This
is
what
we
want
in
terms
of
reparations
and
suppose
the
question:
how
poses
suppose
they
say.
No
suppose
they
say
no,
we
are
not
doing
it.
We
don't
care
how
much
work
you
put
into
it.
We
don't
care
your
resources,
we're
going
to
take
those
resources
because
litigation
might
say
you
can't
allocate
things
to
the
black
community.
E
Nobody,
if,
if
you
look
at
the
desegregation,
Movement
Like,
led
by
King
King,
presented
over
and
over
and
over
again
every
locality
that
he
was
in,
you
know
the
idea
of
sitting
down
and
let's
discuss
this
and
end
Jim
Crow
segregation.
He
was
consistently
told.
No
we're
not
ending
nothing.
In
fact,
you
get
out
there,
we're
gonna,
throw
you
in
jail,
you
know,
and
that's
what
I'm
saying
to
you
that
history
is
not
on
our
side
with
this,
and
we
have
to
think
about
what
it
is.
E
E
The
Health
Care
system
has
got
to
be
repaired,
but
we
trust
the
doctors
well
enough
to
have
our
health
taken
care
of
you
know
we
we
are,
we
are
losing
our
home
through
taxation
and
gentrification.
We
we
have.
No
housing
here
is
taking
the
role
of
urban
renewal.
It
looks
like
urban
renewal
was
sponsored
by
the
government.
This
has
been
happening
in
the
private
sector,
but
it's
the
same
effect.
E
C
Again,
thank
you.
What
just
one
more
question
from
me
I
think
it's
about
the
audit.
E
Oh
yeah
yeah,
this
was
the
second
recommendation.
That's
been
forwarded
to
the
city
and
county.
E
In
fact,
I
I
was
receiving
some
calls
from
from
the
city
today
that
I
need
to
get
back
on
on
explaining
what
it
is
in.
The
second
recommendation
and
the
recommendation
basically
is
titled,
stop
the
harm
and
in
every
Arena,
ranging
from
the
U.N
Declaration
of
reparations
to
the
national
committee
on
reparations
narc,
the
in
Cobra
other
National
organizations
that
Advocate
reparations.
E
The
first
thing
they
said
they
say
we
should
do-
is
to
make
sure
that
the
things
causing
harm
have
actually
ended,
and
so
it
was
put
forward
and
passed
unanimously
by
the
reparations
commission.
That
Asheville
not
only
stopped
the
harm,
that's
causing
disparities
and
it
continues
to
to
yield
racial
inequities,
but
that
it
demonstrates
to
us
that
it
has
stopped
it.
E
And
to
do
that,
it
was
devoted
that
an
audit
be
taken
from
city
and
county
in
public
policy
areas
to
show
where
we
are
in
compliance
with
racial
Equity,
racial
and
and
where
we
are
out
of
compliance
with
racial
equity.
Because
you
see
our
recommendations
are
databased
and
the
data
that
we've
been
operating
off
of
is
not
necessarily
official
data.
It's
data
that
we're
waiting
to
come
forward.
E
The
point
being
is
that
we
know
that
there
are
disparities,
but
and,
and
the
city
and
county
have
directed
us
to
as
part
of
our
mission
to
address
these
disparities.
But
the
first
thing
we
have
to
do
is
stop
the
harm
that
produced
the
disparities
and
then
show
that
if
there
are
disparities,
data
wise,
what
are
they
and
that's
where
the
audit
comes
in
and
that's
where
we're
waiting
to
be
formally
submitted
to
the
city
and
county?
But
it
was
voted
unanimously
by
the
commission
on
Monday.
C
C
E
C
Yeah,
it
was
clear,
totally
yeah
totally
so
now
that
we're
here
in
this
historical
moment,
like
you,
know,
I'm
speaking
for
myself,
the
encouragement
piece
to
stay
encouraged,
you
know
to
keep
hope
alive.
You
know
what
any
tidbits
you
can
give
for
myself
and
those
of
like
us
who
you
know
we
really
are
working
hard.
You
know
wanting
to
see
this
happen,
but
sometimes
it
it
gets
kind
of
challenging.
E
I,
don't
know
if
you
all
know
that
state
of
black
Asheville
was
an
undergraduate
research
project
out
of
UNCA.
It
started
in
2006
2007
and
it
was.
It
was
10
years,
10
years
before
any
local
government
responded
to
it
and
that
was
Bergen
County
with
the
Ash
with
the
Isaac
Coleman
initiatives,
but
it
took
10
years
to
get
any
response
for
based
on
that
and
I.
Remember
it
being
asked
the
same
question
is:
how
do
you
keep
your
your
hope
alive?
E
What
how
do
you
keep
from
being
discouraged
and
disappointed
and
walking
away
from
this,
and
that
I,
you
know
and
I
say
and
I
I
really
mean.
This-
is
that
my
grandmother's
saw
what
I
was
doing
before
they
passed
on
they.
They
both
saw
that
I
finished
school.
They
saw
that
I
was
getting
an
appointment.
I
was
going
into
University
like
they
were
very
proud
of
me
and
I
went
to
them
each
separately
and
I've
said
you
know,
except
you
know,
I'm
tired.
E
You
know
I'm
I'm,
35
years
old
and
I've
been
in
school.
All
my
life
and
I.
Don't
want
to
do
this,
I'm
really
tired.
They
looked
at
me
and
said
boy,
you
don't
know
what
Todd
is
you
know
and
I'm.
You
know
and
I
realized.
What
they
were
saying
is
that
you
know,
and
they
both
said
it
separately-
that
we
have
worked
not
only
our
entire
lives,
but
your
entire
family
has
worked
to
get
you
where
you
are,
and
we
expect
you
to
do
the
work
that
we
have.
E
E
Took
my
hand
and
said:
look
at
look
at
my
hand.
He
she
had
carpal
tunnel
syndrome
and
from
when
she
washed
clothes
and
iron
clothes.
You
know
my
father's
mother
was
a
was
was
was,
was
was
working
the
the
plantation
in
Mississippi,
and
you
know
and
I'm
saying
you
know
compared
to
their
lives,
let
alone
the
folk
came
forth.
I
have
no
complaints,
I
have
no
complaints,
and
so,
relatively
speaking,
I
keep
myself
going
by
remembering
what
it
took
to
get
us
here
and
that's
no
small
thing.
E
C
Yeah,
so
that's
any
anyone
else
had
comments,
questions
anything
about
no.
A
Hey
I'm
on
the
phone
now
I
just
wanna,
say
to
Dr
Mullins.
Thank
you
for
you
know
for
for
your
for,
do
for
you
doing
your
due
diligence,
man,
I,
remember
conversations.
You
know
my
father
used
to
have
at
just
to
see
you
doing
what
you're
doing
with
this
reparations.
Commission
man
I'm
very
grateful,
and
you
know
we
want
to
encourage
you
to
keep
doing
the
work
that
you're
doing.
Sir.
Thank.
E
B
G
B
G
E
I'm
gonna
follow
up
on
that
because
I
know
you
all
I
know
you
mean
it
and
what
we're
looking
at
doing
is
but
is
having
smaller
meetings.
I,
don't
know
if
you
heard
me
earlier,
but
but
having
smaller
meetings
and
and
meeting
more
directly
engaging
the
community
more
directly,
we're
looking
at
not
necessarily
just
meeting
in
the
Civic
Center
because
of
his
capacity
to
hold
everyone
who
wants
to
be
there.
E
G
G
C
E
And
I
know
that
we'll
get
shy
in
formal
meetings.
If
you
get
a
note
from
someone
or
someone
saying
to
you
and
personally,
please
let
me
know
pass
it
on
I'm
I'm
I
really
do
need
the
support.
Okay,
thank.
C
You
thank
you
and
we're
here
to
support
any
way
we
can
I
think
we
all
agree
upon
that
all
right.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
your
time,
sir.
All
right
now
all
right.
Next,
we
have
staff
updates,
we'll
start
with
County
liaison
Leonard
Jones.
H
Good
afternoon,
everyone
I
don't
know
really
how
much
to
add
one
of
one
of
the
things
I
would
like
to
bring
back
to
the
commission's
attention
is
that
the
pack
Square
revisioning
project
is
still
occurring.
They
had
they
met
last
weekend
with
some
focus
groups
and
also
a
site
visit
on
Saturday.
H
H
They
had
focus
groups
around
art
and
history
and
then
some
racial
Equity,
I'd
like
to
bring
to
this
attention
with
that
project,
is
that
with
the
pack
revisioning,
a
component
of
that
is
looking
at
the
corridor
from
pack
square
that
at
least
down
into
the
block
area,
and
how
that's
place
that
space
can
be
more
inviting
and
just
kind
of
celebrate
the
history
of
the
block
and
kind
of
make
it
more
inclusive
in
that
area.
H
So
the
Consultants
really
are
trying
to
get
communities
input
around.
How
that
look,
and
that
area
will
be
the
South
Market
Street,
where
the
municipal
building
is
where
the
fire
department
and
on
the
other
side,
is
the
parking
garage
where
the
peck
Diane
wear
them.
H
Impact
kind
of
packed,
Square
plant
play
shoes,
that's
parking,
and
so
it's
dealing
with
that
Corridor,
where
they,
apart
a
lot
of
the
fire
trucks
like
personal
cars
and
SUVs
and
they're
just
trying
to
think
how
to
make
that
more
that
area
more
inclusive,
because
if
you're
just
visiting
the
area
and
look
down
that
street
and
you
see
a
row
of
fire
trucks
SUVs,
you
went
and
traveled
down
there
to
see
what's
going
on,
and
that's
at
that
intersection.
H
They
have
some
virtual
meetings
that
are
coming
up
on
Monday
December,
the
12th
from
6
to
8
P.M,
as
well
as
on
Wednesday
December,
the
14th
from
six
six
to
eight,
and
then
you
can
log
on
is
posted
on
the
Asheville
nc.gov
pack
square
is
where
Community
can
log
in
and
participate
in
that
process
and
share
and
that
visioning
process
of
how
they
see
that
area.
And
it's
a
wish
list,
there's
no
right
now
they
do.
The
city
is
still
going
through.
H
A
legal
battle
about
the
Vets
Monument,
so
they
still
there's
a
hold
on
that.
However,
as
they
say
with
this
project
right
now,
it's
just
total.
It's
just
a
vision,
and
so
they
really
just
want
Community
to
share
how
they
can
how
we
can
improve
that
place
and
be
more
inclusive,
with
people
of
Asheville
and
and
of
Bunker
County
and
respective
of
the
history
of
the
people
of
the
area.
And
so
we
strongly
encourage
Community
to
participate
in
that
process.
H
And
then,
after
that,
after
the
New,
Year
McAdams
will
come
back
and
there'll
be
a
design
workshop
on
Friday
January,
the
13th
2023
that'll
be
from
9
A.M
to
1
p.m,
and
so
there'll
be
more
detail
coming
out
of
what
exactly
will
be
happening
at
that
design
Workshop,
but
it
still
deals
with
just
pack
square
and
how
the
people
of
Asheville
and
local
County
just
see
how
that
space
can
be
improved
on
it.
H
So
we
strongly
encourage
community,
and
especially
on
this
group
around
the
art
and
the
history
and
racial
Equity,
bring
your
voice
and
let
your
opinion
be
known
and
add
it
to
just
the
information
that
they
will
present
to
City
Council
and
the
county
commissioner.
So
again
we
just
strongly
encourage
Community
to
participate
in
the
dates
again
of
that
it
will
be
next
week,
Monday
December,
12th
and
Wednesday
December,
the
14th.
There
will
be
a
virtual
meetings
from
6
to
8
P.M.
H
C
B
I
gave
up
my
time
to
Dr
Dwight
Mullen,
but
I
do
want
to
add
in
terms
of
reparations
and
I.
Just
I
want
to
just
step
back
a
little
bit
because
I
think
what
happens
is
sometimes
we
wait
for
people
to
tell
us
in
specific
what
to
do
so.
If
you
feel,
like
you
know,
like
Miss
Catherine
has
really
worked
in
the
area
of
African-American
history
and
a
lot
of
that
stuff.
She
wants
to
start
Gathering
people
together
to
kind
of
talk
about
that.
B
If
you
want
to
show
up
join
up
at
the
meeting
and
encouraging
those
folks
would
go
a
long
way
reaching
out
to
the
individuals
when,
like
Dr
Mullen
said
and
just
encouraging
them
to
keep
up
the
fight
and
asking
them
in
particular
are
the
things
that
you
can
do
to
help,
and
this
is
just
the
Brenda
ISM.
If
you
stay
positive,
you
can
get
stuff
done.
You
wear
yourself
out
being
negative.
We
already
know
things
have
happened,
nobody's
refuting
that
not
one
bit,
but
what
being
positive?
B
What
what
ideas
do
you
have
in
the
area
of
Criminal,
Justice,
Economic,
Development,
education,
housing
and
health
and
wellness
I'll,
be
providing
you
all
with
a
list
of
the
meeting
dates
and
the
meetings
that
happen
with
our
impact?
Focus
areas
they're
doing
some
amazing
work
in
those
small
groups,
and
so
anything
that
you
can
do
to
to
give
a
positive
word
or
ways
in
which
you
want
to
be
involved
in
community
engagement,
we're
getting
ready
to
ramp
that
up
towards
the
first
of
February,
we'll
let
you
know
so.
B
C
You,
what
about
a
councilwoman,
Kilgore
yeah.
B
C
Is
that
correct
on
my
list?
No
there's
planning
meeting.
B
B
I
just
want
to
know
if,
if
you
guys
want
to
break
down
into
possibly
a
committee
to
start
looking
at
some
of
these,
but
as
a
report
which
I
shared
in
your
meeting
information
and
then
there's
a
bigger,
a
longer
document
that
talked
about
possible
work
plan
items
you
also
can
consider
which
I
think
I
want
to
bring
this
up
to
you
and
I
just
thought
about
it
this
afternoon,
we'll
talk
about
a
little
bit
more,
but
the,
but
the
organization
that
was
awarded
the
RFP
for
the
Juneteenth
I
think
working
with
that
organization
to
help
with
Juneteenth
for
this
coming
Juneteenth
in
2023.
B
That
would
be
a
big
plus
for
the
African-American
Heritage
Commission,
that
is,
that
is
history
they
intend
to
to
commemorate.
You
know
what
happened
with
Juneteenth,
as
well
as
having
some
activities
so
I
just
wanted
to
know
if
you
guys
were
interested
in
breaking
down
in
the
Committees
to
just
meet
virtually,
maybe
to
just
have
some
discussions
around
these
possible
work
plans.
C
I
got
a
it's
been
at,
it's
I
think
Michael
Hayes,
he's
he's
gonna
he's
not
a
representative
right
right
for
that.
Yeah.
A
I'm
sorry
I
didn't
get
the
I
didn't
get
the
invite
to
the
you
know
to
the
to
the
selecting
of
the
committee,
but
hopefully
we
can
move
forward
and
connect
with
you
know
being
at
the
committee
has
already
collect
selected.
You
know
I
still
ought
to
be
connected.
C
Okay,
that's
I,
guess
that's
what
I
was
asking
Brenda
like
Bennett.
We
have
he's
he's
our
representative.
How
does
that
work.
B
B
They
reviewed
they
served
launch
because
when
we
sent
out
the
invitation,
the
date
and
the
time
and
the
information,
we
did
it
in
person
here
at
City
Hall
and
they
chose
the
MLK
Association.
So
what
I'm
saying
is
not
just
Michael
can
be
your
representative
with
you
know,
checking
in
with
them,
but
I
think
you
guys
should
collaborate
with
them
as
volunteers,
whatever
means
necessary
to
help
with
that,
because
this
is
part
of
what
you
do
is
African-American
heritage.
C
Yeah,
it
makes
it
makes
sense,
it
makes
sense,
I
mean
we
all
I
mean
we're
all
it's
a
I
mean
we
got
June
teeth.
We
got
Pat
Square,
we're
all
over
the
place,
so
I'm
just
no.
B
You're
not
all
over
the
place,
you're
you're
getting
energized
now
to
do
some
things.
You
have
not
been
involved
in
anything,
so
you
know.
No,
we
no,
we
have
no
no
hold
on
miss.
Catherine
has
brought
to
you,
the
the
you
know,
the
markers
that
we're
working
on
downtown
but
you're
not
leading
these
things,
so
that
makes
it
easier
well.
C
That's
that's.
My
point
is
like
it
in
order
to
stop
saying
we're
not
leading
anything,
we
need
to
come
up
with
something
that
we
can
lead
as
a
commission,
because
if
we,
if
we,
if
we're
going
to
continue
to
to
support
these
groups
and
then
not
get
get
recognized
for
supporting
these
groups,
is
not
doing
us
any
good.
C
C
All
right,
someone,
okay
Catherine.
B
I,
don't
have
a
list,
you
have
a
summary
report
and
you
have
possible
work
plans
that
were
provided
to
you
in
June
right
after
your
planning
meeting
so
I'm,
suggesting
that
maybe
you
break
down
into
some
groups
to
talk
about
some
of
those
ideas
and
you
don't
have
to
have
a
named
group,
so
say.
B
Maybe
three
of
you
work
on
some
of
this
stuff
and
like
like
at
the
time
of
your
report,
one
of
the
things
that
was
listed
was
revisiting
Asheville's
African-American,
Heritage
Mission,
when
you've
done
that
you
did
that
you
said
you're
fine
with
what
you
have
reviewing
other
African-American
Heritage
commission
missions,
objectives
and
programs
to
facilitate
planning
and
goal
setting
and
then
commence
commencing,
planning
and
goal
setting
related
to
the
2023
work
plan.
B
So
somebody
one
team,
could
just
work
on
other
ideas
from
other
commissions
across
either
the
state
in
the
country,
and
then
another
group
could
work
on
the
possible
work
plans.
So
you
can
divide
yourself
up.
You
have
seven
members
now,
and
you
know
three
of
you
could
work
on
something
another
few
work
on
another.
Does
that
sound
good.
B
So
who,
who
would
like
to
work
on
reviewing
other
missions
and
objectives
and
programs
doc,
and
let
me
just
say,
also
I-
need
to
put
that
out
there
Dr
Fox,
provided
a
really
good
list
of
a
lot
of
those
programs
and
I
will
provide
that
to
all
of
you
again,
so
you
will
have
that
I'll
follow
up
with
an
email
tomorrow
and
you'll
have
all
of
that
information.
So
you
can
look
at
it.
We're
not
asking
for
a
comprehensive
report.
B
D
Smaller
groups
would
be
meeting
separately
and
then
coming
to
this
meeting
to
share
that
information
and
bring
those
ideas
forward.
Yes,
ma'am,
oh
also,
I'm.
Sorry,
I,
don't
I'm
not
opposed
to
any
of
that
I.
Don't
necessarily
want
to
be
the
one
to
jump
forward
and
say
yes,
let's
do
it,
but
I
am
in
favor
of
that.
If
that's
what
you
know
and
I'd
be
happy
to
participate
with,
whatever's
decided.
So
that's
my
vote.
I
know,
that's
not
really
helpful,
but
that's
where
I'm
at.
B
No,
it's
very
valuable.
Would
you
like
to
work
on
the
group
around
other
missions
like
there's
a
big
old
document
that
Dr
Fox
provided
around
other
people's
missions
across
the
state
and
across
the
country
and
about
ideas
that
we
could?
You
know
work
on
as
a
group?
Would
that
be
something
helpful
that
you'd
like
to
work
on,
or
maybe
the
goal
planning
for
next
year.
I
I
Yeah
we
gotta
stopped
up
in
this
resume
yo
like
I'm,
so
ready
to
go,
there's
so
much
stuff
to
do
with
so
much
hey,
something
that
a
group
was
discussing
is
the
lack
of
black
organization
and
communication
of
how
we
are
not
teaming
up
to
do
things
together
and
no
matter
what
the
situation
is.
The
pride,
the
egos,
the
history,
whatever
yo,
we
have
to
stop
that
we
got
to
put
we
and
I
I,
mean
I,
see
it
in
a
lot
of
different
aspects
in
the
communities.
It's
it's
it's!
I
It's
strong
it's
deep
running,
but
somebody
has
to
stand
up.
We
have
eight
churches
right
now
and
we
don't
have
a
whole
Community
church-wide
like
city-wide
event.
They
don't
cross.
You
know,
and
the
church
is
still
a
strong
code,
whether
a
lot
of
the
new,
the
younger
Generations,
like
they
say,
churches
are
dying
out
and
things,
but
it's
still
a
stronghold
in
the
community,
no
matter
what
so
I
think
we
need
to
tap
into
that
too.
I
I'm
sorry
I'm
talking
y'all
I'm,
just
I'm
like
I,
see
a
lot
of
opportunity
for
us
to
go
and
me
and
chair
and
we've
been
talking
and
stuff,
there's
a
lot
that
we
can
do
and
once
we
get
the
once
we
get
going
like
it's
not
going
to
stop
it's
gonna.
It's
not
gonna,
be
a
problem.
We
just
have
to
get
that
that
inertia.
We
just
got
to
get
that
that
jump
start,
but
yeah
go
playing
equipment
Brenda.
Thank
you.
Absolutely.
F
Yes,
I'm
sorry
I
have
some
noise
in
my
background,
but
I
I
very
much
agree
with
planning
meetings,
I
think
as
a
new
member.
It
would
just
provide
some
momentum
and
I
would
like
to
do
the
goal
setting
for
next
year
as
well.
I
A
B
I
B
C
Good,
so
how
many?
How
many
was
it
is?
Is
it
only
two
just
planning
and
goal
setting
and
what's
the
other.
C
B
G
You
go
yes,
I
took
the
tour
this
summer
of
the
Montgomery
and
Selma
Heritage
centers
and
I'd
like
to
continue
working
on
looking
at
other
facilities
that
are
involved
in
cultural
heritage.
B
So
would
you
like
to
do
that
as
part
of
the
goal
planning
for
2023,
or
would
you
like
to
look
at
other
missions?
What's
your
preference
go
go
planning,
okay,
yes,
ma'am!
We
gotcha.
B
All
right,
and
then
we
can
just
check
in
with
the
other
folks
that
we're
not
able
to
be
here
today
so
that
they
can
I'll
create
a
a
forum
for
them
to
sign
on
to
and
then
I'll
send
you
all
your
information
who
would
like
to
be
the
lead
in
each
of
these,
and
all
the
lead
means
right
now
is
making
sure
a
meeting
gets
scheduled
that
you
meet
and
you
do
not
have
to
meet
in
person.
Unless
that
is
your
particular
preference,
you
can
meet
virtually
if
that's
what
it
works
better
for
you.
G
B
And
then
we'll
try
to
get
you
some
more
members
once
we
put
this
out
again
tomorrow,
provide
all
the
detail
on
the
folder
Google
folder,
for
you
to
research
and
anything
that
you
need.
Just
let
me
or
let
her
know
and
that's
all
I
have.
Thank
you
guys.
Thank
you.
Brenda.
C
C
The
annual
report
is
next
and
so
I
I
had
an
opportunity
to
look
at
the
draft.
Is
it
a
packet
like
it
last
year
that
you
would
send
out.
C
B
C
B
So
the
okay,
so
one
of
the
things
you're
trying
to
do
that.
Thank
you
talk
about
that
in
October,
because
we're
asking
I'm
asking
you
about
meeting
every
other
month.
I
B
Okay
to
attend
other
events,
you
know
things
of
that
nature,
anything
that
you
come
up
with.
Yeah,
okay,
you
don't
have
to
start
in
February.
You
can
do
January
and
then,
if
you
do
January
starting
in
January,
you
skip
February
March.
Then
that
will
give
you
a
chance
Aaron
to
take
what
I
have
worked
on
and
bring
that
back
to
the
committee
in
January.
C
B
B
C
Right
we're
going
to
place
Lynn,
Smith
and
Georgia
Shannon.
H
B
He's
the
city
application,
okay,
the
county,
the
two
for
the
county
have
to
be
decided
on
and
you
and
you
would
not
be
able
to
vote
on
one
of
the
other
of
these
tonight
until
they
chose
which
they
wanted.
To
judge
you,
if
you
want
to
hold
off
and
wait
until
they
make
their
choice,
because
I'll
know
that
probably
about
a
week
out
right,
Leonard
it'll
be
yeah.
B
A
B
B
If
you
have
no,
if
no
one
has
any
kind
of
questions
or
concerns,
we
can
let
it
stand.
B
B
B
B
C
Requests,
oh
yeah
meeting
schedule
requests
considering
every
other
month.
I
thought
that's
something
we
just
is
that
something
that
we
want
to
do
meet
every
other
month,
starting
in
February.
B
C
I
I
already
spoke
on
this
issue
months
ago.
I
thought
it
was
important
for
us
to
stay
engaged,
we're
not
we're
not
really
meeting
in
person
like
the
rest
of
the
groups.
It's
a
little
different.
We
decided
we
decided
to
do
virtual,
that's
what
we
decided
and
we're
not
meeting
like
the
rest
of
the
group.
So
me
personally,
that's
just
my
personal
thing
is:
is
to
keep
it
the
way
it
is
for
right
now,
Ashley.
F
F
So
just
wanting,
if
I,
if
we're
trying
to
get
some
of
that
movement,
I'm,
not
sure
I,
think
I
would
I
would
vote
for
every
month
and
keeping
the
as
long
as
we
have
a
good
Rhythm
for
the
working
group
meetings.
I
A
B
You
so
this
is
what
I
want
to
say
is:
is
one
half
of
your
liaison
team
so
Aaron?
What
we
will
do
since
y'all
want
to
stay
meeting
monthly
I'm
going
to
need
agenda
items
from
you
about
about
two
weeks
out,
so
that
I
can
because
I've
been
putting
the
agenda
items
on
here.
So
I
will
need
those
from
you,
since
you
want
to
meet
every
other
month
because
there's
just
not
been
business
to
meet
every
month.
So
if
there's
going
to
be
more
business,
that's
totally
fine,
but
there's
not
been
business.
B
That's
why
I
suggested
meeting
every
other
month
and
then
you
use
the
opposite
months
to
do.
Committee
work
that
way.
You
have
a
substantive
report.
When
you
come
into
your
your
committee
meeting
I
mean
you
know
and
I,
don't
know
how
long
you
want
to
keep
the
Committees
together.
You
may
come
back
once
they
respond.
I,
have
a
report
and
you're
done
with
that
work
and
you
develop
other
committees.
But
this
group
has
to
begin
to
be
more
active
in
their
agenda
items.
C
Absolutely
but
we
have
and
stay
positive
we
just
talked
about.
We
got
to
stay
positive,
I'm
positive.
You
need
to
get
more
active
yeah,
but
yeah,
but
I
I
can't
this
group
is
active
and
I
mean
we
are
active.
C
C
My
that's
my
thing
about
like
if
we're
going
to
continue
to,
if
we're
going
to
be
judged
by
not
putting
on
something
ourselves
and
doing
something
ourselves,
but
still
attending
and
and
and
and
and
participating
in
all
these
other
events,
that's
happening,
I
think
that's
totally
unfair.
You
know
to.
B
No,
no,
no
you're
missing
what
I'm
saying.
So.
Let
me
make
sure
you
understand
what
I'm
saying:
okay,
you
need
to
actively
get
involved
in
this
agenda.
So,
if
you
are
doing
me
say,
for
example,
you
guys
are
attending
meetings
well,
say
that
let's
put
an
item
on
your
agenda
because
I
don't
know
that:
okay,
first
time,
I
heard
that
right,
I
know
what
I'm
doing
but
I
don't
know
what
you're
doing
right
so
I'm
just
saying
what
we
will
do
is
get
an
email
out
ask
for
agenda
items.
B
If
there
are
things
that
you
are
doing,
that
you
would
like
to
report
on
this
group.
I
think
that
is
excellent,
but
that
that
needs
to
come
from
you
not
from
the
staff.
So
we
have
our
staff
things
like
vacancies
and
stuff
like
that,
but
other
than
that
it
should
be
all
you
and
I'm
totally
fine
with
that.
Okay.
C
I
don't
know
this
is
the
this
is
the
implosion
thing
that
I
was
talking
about.
We
we
got
to
get
better
at
this,
but
I
got
it
and
thank
you
so
much
so
now
we
move
on
anybody
in
the
speaker,
queue
any
questions,
comments
or
anything
anybody
we
lost.
No,
no
okay,
number
six
public
comments,
there's
no
one
else:
no
one's
in
the
queue
all
right,
so
the
next
meeting
is
Thursday
January,
the
12th
2023,
oh
I,
got
a
hand
somewhere.
C
I
C
All
right,
so
the
next
scheduled
meeting
is
Thursday
January,
the
12th
2023,
and
it
will
remain
virtual
check
on
the
city's
engagement
hub
for
more
directions
on
how
to
participate.