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B
Great
thank
you
amy
good
afternoon
and
welcome
to
the
january
26
2022
city
of
asheville,
multimodal
transportation
commission
meeting.
My
name
is
dennis
wenzel
and
I'm
the
chair
of
this
group.
Our
meetings
are
continuing,
are
continue
to
be
held
virtually,
but
there
are
many
ways
for
interested
parties
to
partake
in
this
gathering.
The
city
of
asheville's
engagement
hub,
which
includes
a
variety
of
participation,
links
and
phone
numbers,
can
be
found
on
the
multi-modal
transportation.
B
Commission
page
of
the
city
of
asheville's
website
visiting
this
page
is
the
best
way
for
you
to
take
part
in
our
virtual
meetings,
members,
staff
and
guests.
Please
remember
to
keep
your
microphones
muted
at
all
times
when
you're,
not
speaking,
so
we
can
minimize
background
noise
and
feedback.
I
would
like
to
now
welcome
our
commission
members.
Members.
If
you
could
all
please
say
your
name
and
let
us
know
what
interests
you
represent.
When
I
call
you
out,
we
can
get
started.
Randy
warren.
B
Hey
randy,
michael
stratton,.
E
Hi
kenny
armstrong,
I'm
also
on
the
green
leg
committee.
B
Hey
kenny,
pat
katz.
F
E
B
Maggie
make
it,
I
think,
maggie's
here
quite
yet
bill
loftus.
B
Hey
bill
joe
archibald.
I
Good
afternoon
everyone,
joe
archfold,
I
am
the
liaison
to
the
planing
and
zoning
commission
for
multimodal
transit,
hey.
B
I
B
Rooney
think
kim
has
been
able
to
join
us
quite
yet
welcome
everyone.
So
we
can
begin
the
first
order
of
business
is
to
review
and
approve
our
agenda
for
today.
The
january
26
2022
agenda.
Can
I
get
a
motion
to
approve.
B
Thanks
john
any
comments
or
questions
on
today's
agenda
all
right
without
comment
or
question,
we
will
take
a
roll
call
to
approve
randy
warren
hi,
michael
stratt,
hi,
kenny.
J
B
Magazine
here
bill,
loftus
hi,
and
I
am
I
as
well
next
item-
is
to
review
and
approve
the
minutes
from
our
october
27th
meeting.
Can
I
get
a
motion
to
approve
those
minutes.
B
Thank
you,
michael
any
comments
or
questions
on
those
minutes.
All
right
without
comment,
question
we'll
take
a
roll
call
vote
on
the
minutes.
Randy
warren.
C
All
right,
hi.
J
J
B
Hey
maggie,
I'm
sorry,
maggie
no
problem
are
you
a
I
vote
for
the
approval
of
the
excellent
sure
am
perfect.
Okay,
it's
unanimous.
The
motion
proof
is
approved.
The
next
item
is
the
december
16th
minutes
and
approval.
Can
I
get
a
motion
to
approve.
B
Excellent
bill,
a
second
any
comments
or
questions
on
this.
The
december
16th
meeting.
E
B
Great.
Thank
you,
john
balsony,.
J
B
Maggie
allman
aye
aye
bill
loftus
aye
excellent.
The
motion
carries
okay
going
to
new
biz.
I
was
told
by
amy
that
there
is
no
public
comment,
so
we'll
move
into
new
business.
New
business
first
item
is
the
appointment
of
bill
deliniak
to
serve
on
the
transit
committee.
B
Sorry,
michael
yeah,
I.
D
Was
just
curious
how
how
many
vacancies
do
they
does
the
transit
committee
have
currently
is
this
going
to
shore
them
up
or
they're
still
others.
K
I
take
that
back,
it
might
be
two.
Since
we
had
carly
fernari,
she
was
appointed
to
the
transit
committee
from
the
multimodal
she
was
on
the
multimodal,
but
she
has
since
resigned,
and
so
she
was
an
appointment
as
well.
So
I
have
to
double
check,
but
it's
either
one
or
two
vacancies
on
the
transit
committee.
A
Say
that
I
listened
in
to
that
call
last
month
and
he
seemed.
K
Really
like
motivated
and
excited-
and
I
think
that
is
really
powerful
and
he
seems
like
a.
E
J
Dennis
are
there
other
applicants.
B
Yeah,
I
believe
it's
been
tough
for
them
to
get
folks.
I
know
that
it's
advertised
every
month,
when
I
get
that
notice,
I
see
it
all
the
time
and
just
kind
of
an
aside
to
this.
You
know
john's
been
kind
of
floating
out
there,
working
really
hard
trying
to
keep
this
together
and
keep
his
connection.
He's,
unfortunately,
had
an
uphill
struggle
in
that
the
last
two
folks
who
are
served
on
the
mtc
representing
working
with
transit
next
to
john,
have
been
kind
of
in
and
out
pretty
quickly.
B
So
I
don't
think,
there's
really
been
any
stability
or
even
people
showing
up
to
meetings
there.
So
I
know
that
that's
very
frustrating
and
that's
certainly
something
that
we
wanna
you
know
see
if
we
can
focus
on.
Is
that
there's
another
issue?
That's
kind
of
you
know
that
we're
seeing,
I
think,
with
this
committee
is
that
I
think
they've
missed
four
of
their
last
five
meetings
that
haven't
been
held.
Is
there
jessica?
Can
you
offer
any
insight
into
that?
Why
that's
happening?
B
Going
back
in
john,
do
you
want
to
make
a
comment
while
we're
waiting
for
jessica.
G
Sorry,
the
meetings
that
we've
missed
have
been
for
various
reasons.
I
think
the
last
meeting
was
canceled
because
of
lack
of
staff
due
to
coded
our.
G
From
the
city,
because
it
was
like
during
it
was
last
week
during
that
that
ice
storm
and
then
prior
to
that
in
december,
we
met,
but
we
didn't
have
a
quorum
because
we
just
haven't
had
enough
committee
member
involvement,
like
people
just
aren't,
showing
up
to
the
meetings,
and
the
chair
has
cancelled
the
two
meetings
before
that
and
she
wasn't
at
the
last
meeting
either.
Somebody
else
actually
held
that
meeting.
G
So
the
last
meeting
we
actually
had
was
in
september
full
meeting
where
we
could
actually
when
we
had
a
quorum.
B
Okay:
okay,
michael.
D
D
We
have
high
hopes
and
aspirations
that
will
get
things
done,
but
you
know
I
I'm
just
wondering
if,
if
there's
just
a
lack
of
of
movement
on
any
of
our
top
issues
that
are
making
people
disenfranchised
and
that's
not
necessarily
a
question
as
much
as
just
a
commentary
on
this,
but
I'm
curious
to
know
if
other
people
have
similar
thoughts
on
on
the
issue
or
if
I'm
just
having
a
your
day.
L
Is
yeah,
so
I.
L
Attending
the
transit
committee
meetings
and
thank
you,
john
for
maintaining
that
role
as
the
liaison
between
transit
and
multimodal
it
can
be
really
hard.
When
there's
inconsistency,
I
think
we're
all
dealing
with
capacity
issues
with
the
pandemic.
Virtual
meetings
can
increase
accessibility
but
also
has
its
own
challenges,
so
it
might
be
wise
to
consider
a
communication.
Ask
it's
possible
that
folks
that
are
willing
to
take
on
leadership
roles.
There
may
be
a
time
when
they
can't
do
that
anymore.
L
Is
it
the
day
and
time
of
the
meeting,
but
I
was
just
maybe
asking
the
transit
committee
if
they
can
identify
some
of
the
root
causes
of
why
they
don't
meet
so
regularly.
F
I
I
actually
find
virtual
meetings
easier
to
attend
than
in
person,
because
there's
been
number
several
times
where
I've
been
out
of
town
and
I've
been
able
to
attend
the
meeting,
I
find
it
fabulous
and
if
I
have
to
eat
my
lunch,
I
can
do
that
and
turn
off
my
screen
and
kind
of
multitask
that
way
get
up
and
stretch.
I
I
love
it.
I
love
having
the
virtual
meeting,
so
I
find
it
easier
to
attend.
B
Are
you
interested
in
stepping
into
the
the
committee
working
with
the
committee
with
the
transit
committee.
B
That's
something
background
because
I'm
not
a
real,
absolutely
yeah,
I
mean
some
of
the
challenges
are
that
you
know.
I
think
it's
a
it's.
A
the
transit
committee
deals
with
some
very
complex
and
challenging
issues,
and
particularly
in
the
last
two
years,
it's
been
just
an
uphill
slog
for
this
group
and
then
with
the
transition
in
leadership
and
with
folks
coming
in
and
out
it's
very
difficult
to.
B
I
think,
keep
that
continuity,
and
you
know
I
I
I
commend
again
john,
I
mean
he's
just
it's
been
it's
not
an
easy
path
and
we're
very
lucky
to
have
someone,
that's
kind
of
willing
to
say
you
know
we
need
to
focus
on
this,
so
I
think
kim's
ideas
of
you
know
getting
some
feedback.
Maybe
john,
if
you
can,
you
know,
I
don't
know
if
you
to
see,
if
there's
other
information
you
can
provide,
maybe
there
is
a
change
of
venue
or
time
or
something
like
that.
B
That
might
be
helpful.
You
know
to
to
get
it
more
consistent,
you
know,
having
the
chair
absent
is
makes
it
difficult
too.
So
those
those
are
some
challenges
that
you
know
that
we
have
to
face
and
again
I.
M
B
That
they've
been
looking
for
folks
to
join
that
committee.
You
know,
I
see
that
come
through
every
month
and
they're
always
looking
for
folks
there.
I
don't
know.
If
there's
another
way,
we
can
communicate
that,
but
you
know
I
think
it's
important
to
be
get
that
filled
and
get
that
that
group
is
as
productive
as
we
can.
K
From
the
multimodal
side,
I'd
be
interested
in
tag
teaming
with
john
as
a
liaison,
because
I
know
that
after
we
did
our
goal
setting
in
october,
one
of
the
top
goals
was
to
pursue
thinking
and
work
around
regional
transit
and
regional
transportation.
K
K
Our
goal
move
towards
that
it
seems
like
me
participating
in
those
calls,
would
help
our
commission
meet
our
goals.
B
Definitely-
and
I
think
we
just
make
a
blanket
statement
that,
if
anyone's
interested
in
lending
a
hand
here,
at
least
on
the
short
term,
to
kind
of
help
get
over
the
hump
and
get
things
back
rolling
again,
I'm
sure
john
will
be
happy
to
to
take
it
on
and-
and
you
know,
kind
of
fill
you
in
and
let
you
know
where
he
thinks
maybe
someone
we
could
folks
focus
some
of
our
energy.
K
Oh
good,
sorry,
I
have
no
idea
what
happened
thanks
for
jumping
in
there,
john
and
kim.
L
I
would
just
say
that
if
you
did
reach
out
to
members
of
the
transit
committee,
maybe
let
them
know
that
you
had
this
conversation
that
you
do
care
about.
The
input
and
their
input
is
invaluable,
would
certainly
be
a
lovely
note
to
hear,
but
also,
I
think
we
have
to
think
about
where
we've
been
where
we
are
and
where
we're
going,
because
coordinated
efforts
with
expansion
into
the
county,
the
very
next
level
of
the
transit
master
plan
talks
about
you,
know:
expansion,
maybe
to
inca
candler.
L
What
funding
streams
look
like
these
are
really
important
conversations
that
do
need
to
be
had
and
if
we
were
to
end
up,
for
example,
looking
at
what
does
a
transit
authority
look
like?
We
need
to
have
some
long
range
here,
so
re-amplifying
the
importance
and
the
invaluable
input.
That's
provided.
The
transit
committee
might
help
to
boost
the
desire
to
serve
and
to
amplify
that
they
exist.
B
B
H
Well,
let
me
just
bring
up
a
wild
card
here.
You
know
I'm
kind
of
new
with
the
commission.
I've
just
been
assigned
to
the
greenway.
In
fact
I
hadn't
even
been
in
any
greenway
meetings.
Yet
if
it's
just
literally
a
matter
of
filling
a
need,
I'm
perfectly
happy
to
switch
over
from
greenway
to
help
john
transit,
but
I
don't
know
if
that's
a
viable
option
or
not,
but
john.
If
you
need
that
kind
of
support,
I
can
just
kind
of
change
hats.
I'm
I'm
fine
doing
that.
If
that
helps.
B
Thanks
bill,
that's
it's
actually
you
and
I
spoke
about
that
on
the
kind
of
offline
and
when
you
were
coming
on,
I
was
there
was
a
movement
where
I
was
trying
to
shift
around
to
actually
take
that
greenway
position
and
there
was.
We
ran
against
some.
You
know
some
challenges
so
so
jessica.
B
Maybe
we
could
work
with
the
city
to
find
out
what
those
specific
challenges
were,
and
if
that
change
can
happen,
it
seemed
to
me
that
the
the
position
on
our
commission
is
assigned
to
the
position
on
the
committee
and
they're
not
as
fluid
as
maybe
we
would
like
them
to
be.
Does
that
sound
right
to
you.
K
Yeah,
I
think
it's
dumb.
You
know,
I
think
that
I
mean
it's.
It's
such
a
pain
when
we
have
to
go
to
council
to
get
somebody
changed
from
one
committee
to
the
other.
I
would
suggest
that
we
go
ahead
and
just
unofficially
do
that
and
then
I
will
get
in
touch
with
the
clerk's
office
to
let
them
know
that
we
want
to
make
a
switch
and-
and
unfortunately
I
guess
the
council
has
to
approve
it-
is
that
your
understanding
kim,
like
we
can't
just
trade
one
person
around,
although.
F
K
More
efficient,
yeah,
okay,
so
so
bill.
I
think,
unfortunately,
just
the
way
the
timing
works
out
like
you
could
go
to
the
next
transit
committee
meeting.
They
meet
on
tuesday
afternoons
third
week,
yeah
all
right,
yeah
third
tuesday
of
the
month,
but
you
wouldn't
be
officially
appointed
until
at
the
earliest.
K
The
council
meeting
that
happens
the
fourth
week
of
the
month.
I
think
so
I'll
keep
you
posted.
B
And
jessica,
we
might
be
able
to
do
a
paperwork
stuff
here,
since
that
position
is
technically
open.
We
might
be
able
to
have
bill
resign.
His
current
position
move
over
and
take
this
other
position
so
that
it
would
align
with
whatever
the
city
requirements
may
be,
and
then
we
can
us
we
can
bring
someone
in
for
the
then
the
greenway
committee
position
that
would
be
open,
potentially
joe.
I
I
was
just
gonna
say,
and
this
is
kind
of
going
even
further
into
the
weeds,
but
perhaps
you
know
as
the
long-range
solution
to
this,
we
could
look
at
re-doing
the
bylaws
for
multi-modal,
so
that
you
don't
have
to
deal
with
that.
I
don't
know,
obviously
that's
a
whole
other
layer,
but,
let's
think
long
term
and
like
maybe
this
is
a
great
example
of
sometimes
laws
and
bylaws
need
to
change.
That's
all.
B
B
Situation
bill:
let's
just
ask
for
forgiveness
here
and
just
you
know,
start
going
in
that
process,
because
I
you
know,
I'm
sure
john
would
love
it
and
I
think
we
need
it.
You
know
I
think
right
now.
The
area
where
I
feel
like
you
know
we
need
the
most
manpower
behind
it
is.
Is
that
that
group.
B
No,
no,
I
think
it's
something
that
we
probably
need
to
tackle,
so
I'm
glad
we're
able
to
figure
out
how
to
make
it
happen.
E
B
B
Hi
michael
hi,
kenny
pat
I
john
hi,
maggie.
A
B
Bill
hi
and
I'm
and
I
as
well
motion,
carries
speaking
of
capacity
issues.
The
next
item
is
considering
an
appointment
appointment
of
a
new
chair
and
vice
chair
for
this
here.
Commission.
This
is
an
item
that
comes
up
when
I
kind
of
stepped
into
this
role
last
year.
One
of
the
things
that
michael
had
mentioned
to
me
is
that
the
you
know
the
folk
or
the
idea
is
that
maybe
it
could
rotate
every
year
or
so
so
we
can
all
take
a
crack
at
being
the
chair
and
kind
of
spread
out.
B
Some
of
that,
you
know
some
of
that
extra
load,
but
also
give
everyone
a
chance.
So
there's
continuity
and
you
know
the
contact
with
the
city
and
all
these
other
things
that
the
chairs
ends
up
doing,
and
I
think
it's
an
important
thing
for
us
to
do.
In
light
of
that,
I'm
also
kind
of
facing
a
extremely
hectic
2022,
that's
kind
of
happening
to
me.
B
I'm
not
opposed
to
kind
of
stepping
back
into
this
role
again
in
future
years,
but
if
there's
someone
that's
interested
and
has
you
know
and
be
willing
to
do
that,
that
would
be
very
welcome
at
this
time,
but
any
any
thoughts
on
that.
K
I'll
just
say
it's
relatively
painless,
the
the
other,
the
one
part
that
happens
behind
the
scenes,
sort
of
is
the
vice,
and
vice
chair
and
chair,
meet
with
with
me
two
weeks
before
the
meeting,
and
we
come
up
with
what
we
want
to
talk
about
on
the
agenda
and
that
meeting
is
typically
about
an
hour
and
can
be
arranged
around
somebody's
schedule
as
needed.
B
And
just
to
clarify,
randy
has
offered
to
stay
on
the
vice
chair
position.
He
can't
move
up
to
chair
he's,
got
a
fairly
hectic
schedule
as
well.
So
that's
the
kind
of
the
current
situation
joe
and
then
we
can
go
to
pat.
I
I
just
not
to
I'm-
and
this
is
the
maybe
the
one
of
the
other
places
to
put
it.
You
know
we're
talking
about
other
members
is
there.
I
know
that
anna
has
left.
As
far
as
the
knack
you
know
has
moved
on
from
that
position
and
so
isn't
the
liaison
anymore.
Is
there
any
thought
as
to
who's
going
to
be
the
new
liaison
from
knack?
I
It
seems
like
that
is
a
has
been
in
the
past,
a
reasonably
appropriate
member
of
this
commission.
So
I
didn't
know
if
there
was
any.
You
know,
discussion
or
had
been
any
discussion
about
that.
I
will
say
that
just
as
a
side
note
or
not
a
side
note
but
directly
on
topic
dennis,
I
certainly
have
appreciated
your
chairmanship
of
of
this
commission
and
randy
as
well.
I
think
you
guys
both
have
done
a
great
job,
so
yeah
hats
off
thanks.
K
You
know
informed
the
clerk's
office
that
anna
is
now
working
for
the
city,
so
she's
no
longer
on
knack,
and
I
think
that
knack
whenever
they
meet
next,
hopefully
will
discuss
who
they
would
like
to
have
participate
on
this.
So
hopefully,
within
the
next
month
or
two
at
the
most
we'll
have
a
person
appointed.
B
D
Yeah,
so
with
anna
gone,
I
I
take
it,
there's
a
vacancy
there's
that
they
need
to
fill
on
on
knack
as
well.
Should
we
let
people
in
our
communities
know
that
that's.
D
K
B
You
right
well,
like
I
could
see
a
lot
of
the
interest
in
the
chair
roll.
You
know
I
noticed
everyone's
taking
a
step
back
and
relax.
You
know.
No,
you
know
we
there's
a
long
list.
We
can
just
put
this
together,
but
if
there's
any
interest,
just
send
me
a
message
on
the
side
and
we
can
kind
of
talk
things
through
okay.
The
next
issue
is
the
franchise
agreement
for
the
new
pedicab
business.
Ken.
N
Good
afternoon
dennis
and
commission
members,
my
name
is
ken
putnam
and
I'm
the
director
of
the
transportation
department,
a
blue
ridge,
rickshaw,
and
you
have
this
information
in
your
packet.
They
would
like
to
operate
a
pedal
bicycle
taxi
service
within
the
city
of
asheville.
N
The
commercial
service
areas
that
they
would
include
would
be
the
central
business
district,
the
south
slope,
bitmore,
village
and
river
arch
district.
The
residential
service
areas
include
burton
street
hillcrest,
lee
walker
heights,
erskine,
walton,
livingston
heights
communities
and
there's
a
complete
list
of
other
residential
service
areas.
In
that
agreement,
the
service
would
operate
seven
days
a
week
between
the
hours
of
seven
a.m.
N
N
The
motion
that
we
would
like
approval
on
would
be
that
the
commission
approve
a
motion
recommending
that
this
agreement
to
blue
ridge
rickshaw
be
moved
to
the
public
safety
committee
for
review
and
approval.
Now,
with
that,
I
must
give
you
a
disclaimer
and
apologize
due
to
the
way
the
meetings
are
structured.
N
We
actually
took
it
to
public
safety
yesterday
and
all,
but
we
will
not
do
that
in
the
future,
but
that's
the
way
this
one
worked
out.
The
applicant
is
here
on
the
call,
if
there's
any
questions
that
the
commission
members
would
like
to
ask
him
and
then
I'll
try
to
answer
any
questions,
and
I
see
randy
warren
has
got
his
hand
raised.
C
Thanks
ken
yeah,
I
don't
think
we
can
prohibit
them
from
operating
on
any
street
where
the
speed
limit
is
35
miles
an
hour
or
higher.
Since
the
default
speed
limit
in
the
city
is
35
miles
an
hour.
That
means
that
any
street
doesn't
have
a
speed
limit
posted
to
it.
Then
they
couldn't
operate
on
that
street
and
that
doesn't
seem
reasonable.
So
I
think
we
should
say
higher
than
35
miles
an
hour
not
35
miles
an
hour
or
higher.
N
B
M
B
I
B
Again,
I
had
a
question:
I
noticed
that
it's
a
real
minor
it
identified
kennel
worth
forest
and
I
think
is,
do
we
intend
to
say
kennel
worth
just
kind
of
work
community.
F
Yes,
they
are
two
different
neighborhoods.
The
kenilworth
forest
is
sort
of
a
one-way
in
and
out
behind
the
mall,
and
then
the
kennel
worth
neighborhood
is
the
larger
one
that
runs
from
tunnel
road
over
to
biltmore.
I
live
in
kenilworth.
N
And
then
it's
just
to
add
to
what
patricia
said.
She
is
absolutely
correct,
and
these
are
the
way
they're
listed
on
our
gis
layers
for
residential
communities.
D
N
That's
that's
no
problem
again
we're
trying
to
structure
it
the
way
that
the
applicant
wanted
it
structured,
but
we
have
the
we
can.
We
can,
we
can
add
and
strap
to
it.
Okay,.
N
That
that
I'd
like
to
say
yes,
would
be
the
short
answer,
but
I'll
have
to
double
check
that
with
the
legal
department
again,
one
of
the
reasons,
one
of
the
primary
reasons
we
do
these
modes
through
a
franchise
agreement
is
just
to
kind
of
lay
down
some
basic
rules
and
so
forth
that
we
would
be
able
to
hold
them
accountable
for
because
there
is
there
is,
there
is
no
requirement
for
any
business
to
get
a
business
license
to
operate,
but
we're
trying
to
maintain
some
type
of
control
now
so
far.
N
This
is
the
third
application
we've
had
for
this
type
of
service.
Our
records
indicate
that
one
of
them
is
still
active
now
with
covet.
I
don't
know
how
active,
but,
but
so
far,
what
we've
seen
over
the
years
we've
never
gotten
any
kind
of
complaints
about
this
type
of
service,
even
even
causing
traffic
issues.
N
B
N
Right,
that's
correct
and
honestly
obviously
I
would
say
that
and
I'll
let
the
african
speak
to
it,
but
but
before
he
does
I'll
say
that
he's
going.
N
M
Hey
guys,
I'm
jordan
with
the
blu-ray
drip
show.
I
appreciate
you
guys
having
me
on
today.
I
just
wanted
to
clear
up
as
far
as
the
neighborhoods
listed
go.
M
I
just
wanted
to
include
a
larger
list
so
that,
if
it
does
ever
arrive
that
I
need
to
take
someone
to
one
of
those
areas
listed
that
I
am
able
to
do
so
and
is
it
accessible
for
me
and
I
would
not
get
any
kind
of
like
legal
flack
for
being
there
when
I
shouldn't
be
so,
I
just
wanted
to
include
as
many
areas
as
possible
how
doable
all
those
areas
are.
M
I'm
not
quite
sure,
because
you
know
it
is
going
to
be
very
hilly
in
some
areas
other
than
just
downtown,
but
I'm
also
open
to
increasing.
You
know
if
it
is
successful
and
there
is
more
presence
needed,
increasing
the
area
of
my
my
business.
B
Great.
Thank
you,
jordan,
joe.
I
I
think
I
may
have
found
the
answer
to
my
question.
I
was
looking
at
the
the
renewal
and
the
franchise
fee
and
just
wasn't
sure.
If
there
was
you
know,
it
looks
like
there
is
a
the
ability
for
the
city
to
change
the
franchise
fee.
That
was
my
only
initial
thought
there
that
you
know.
I
I.
I
really
hope
jordan
is
successful.
Wish
you
the
best
of
luck
with
this,
and
you
know
I
would
hate
you
know,
10
years
from
now,
we're
still
only
having
a
franchise
fee
of
365.
That's
all.
B
D
So
two
things
the
first
one's
a
question
for
jordan.
I'm
just
curious
how
you'll
be
collecting
your
fees.
I
know
that
we
had
a
company
at
one
point
that
was
operating
and
they
were
they
were
just
like
tip
only
and
I
think
working
on
advertising,
but
I
don't
know
if
they're
still
around.
So
I
was
just
curious
if
you'll
be
running
a
similar
model
or
you're
going
to
do
something
similar
to
uber.
M
Sure
yeah,
so
our
my
fee
structure
will
be
accepting
cash
card,
major
card
payments
and
you
know
other
forms
of
currency.
It
is
based
off
typically
from
the
past
that
I've
done
it.
It's
based
off
per
person,
but
other
factors
like
distance
and
the
time.
D
Well,
that's
cool,
I'm
really
excited
about
it
and
then,
on
a
personal,
more
selfish
note,
I
would
hope
that
you'd
add
the
neighborhood
of
oakley,
that's
where
I'm
at
so.
If
I
could
add
that
to
your
list,
that'd
be
great
because
I'd
love
that
you're
good
to
patronize
your
your
service.
M
B
Any
other
comments
can
I
get
a
motion
to
approve.
B
L
Are
you
making
a
motion
with
the
suggestion
of
the
speed
limit,
or
not
just
for
my
liaison
report.
D
B
Great,
thank
you
comments
or
questions.
C
J
A
B
Bill
hi
and
I'm
an
eye
as
well,
and
the
motion
carries
thanks.
Jordan.
Good
luck!
Thank
you
guys!
Thank
you!
Everybody!
B
Okay!
The
next!
I'm
sorry!
Well
thanks
ken
sorry.
The
next
item
is
the
motion
for
bike
ped
to
include
the
mmtc
in
the
decision
to
making
process
for
all
speed
limit
changes.
B
K
Oh
randy,
do
you
want
to
talk
about
this?
It's
a
notion
that
the
bike
had
task
force
made.
C
Sure
yeah,
so
it
was
interesting.
C
And
so
we
didn't
see
why
multi-modal
should
be
involved
in
that
so
bike.
That
made
the
recommendation.
The
motion
passed
made
of
motion
two
multimodal
who
then
make
you
know
asking
us
to
make
emotions
be
included
in
the
process
of
anytime
speed
limits
are
changed
in
asheville.
C
B
Okay,
thanks
randy,
michael
so.
D
Just
to
be
clear,
the
way
that
we're
operating
now
are
you
saying
that
bikepad
also
doesn't
have
have
any
weigh-in,
or
so
neither
neither
of
our
groups
then.
C
No
so
like
thompson,
for
example,
was
raised
from
2025
and
it
took
a
long
time
to
figure
out
why
that
was
and
ends
up.
It
was
just
the
police
petition
for
reasons
that
I
don't
find
reasonable
whatsoever,
but
we
never
even
went
to
us.
It
just
went
to
a
city
council,
and
I
think
it
was
on
the
consent
agenda
or
something
even
so.
It
wasn't
even
debated
at
all.
It
just
was,
you
know,
put
forth
approved
without
any
input
from
the
community
whatsoever,
and
that
just
seems
inappropriate.
D
Wow
well
really,
nice
work
good
digging.
That's
an
excellent
motion.
K
So
so
I'll
just
say
that
currently
the
process
is
well,
we
get,
we
get
requests
from
citizens
to
to
study
traffic,
calming
potential
improvements
or
speed
limit
reductions,
and
we
sometimes
get
requests
from
apd,
particularly
well,
really
only
in
areas
I
believe,
where
the
they
have
a
very
hard
time
enforcing,
because
the
speed
limit
is
so
low
and
the
drivers
are
pretty
much
everybody's
driving
over
the
speed
limit.
K
So
I
think
that
that
was
the
case
with
thompson
street,
but
I
would
say
99
times
out
of
100
a
speed
limit
change
is
in
the
downward
direction,
and
so
our
traffic
engineering
division
does
the
data
collection
and
study
and
makes
the
recommendation
about
speed
limits,
whether
it
comes
from
a
citizen
request
or
an
apd
request
or
whomever,
and
makes
a
recommendation
and
takes
it
to
the
public
safety
committee,
which
is
a
committee
of
council
and
then,
ultimately,
it
goes
to
council.
K
So
that's
the
current
process,
and
so
what
randy's
proposing
is
there
would
be
an
added
step
that
would
bring
these
forward
to
the
multimodal
commission
as
well,
and
I
don't
know
if
ken
has
any
anything
he
would
like
to
to
say,
or
actually
he
may
have
already
jumped
off,
but.
N
If
you
make,
if
you
accept
a
motion
today,
what
we
have
to
check
with
the
legal
department
is:
is
that
a
function
of
this
commission.
N
So
I
can't
say
that
if
whatever
action
you
took
today,
it
would
necessarily
be
effective.
We
just
have
to
double
check
that
the
process
that
we
do
follow
is
first
of
all
outlined
in
state
law,
and
then
it
follows
the
process
that
is
referred
to
as
the
federal
manual
that
we
all
have
to
follow
the
manual
on
uniform
traffic
control
devices,
and
that's
where
it
indicates
there
needs
to
be
a
study.
N
What
we're
doing
when
we
do
that,
and
we've
done
that
for
years.
The
other
thing
that
we're
doing
is
we're
beginning
to
look
into
the
documents
that
natto
has
been
producing
and.
N
That
was
put
out
in
2020
called
city
limits
and
I'm
not
sure
if
any
of
you
have
seen
that
document.
Yet
it
is
a
pdf
document,
so
you
could
google
it
and
look
at
it,
but
it
talks
about
the
way
speed
limits
are
being
changed
throughout
the
united
states
in
certain
areas
and
that
sort
of
thing
to
better
be
more
friendly,
we'll
say
to
the
other
modes
of
transportation
and
our
our
own
chris
karens.
Who
is
our
new
traffic
engineer?
N
He
is
one
of
the
contributors
in
that
document,
so
we're
trying
to
make
sure
that
we're
we're
trying
to
see
how
we
can
incorporate
that
into
our
process
and
then
there's
a
federal
research.
That's
called
u.s
limits
and
it's
a
software
program
that
was
developed
not
only
by
engineers
but
by
engineers,
members
of
the
public
and
police
officers,
and
it
is
proving
to
be
effective,
especially
for
smaller
communities
where
they
don't
have
traffic
engineers,
where
they
can
input
the
data
and
a
recommended.
N
Speed
limit
comes
out,
and
we
always
use
that
as
a
check
for
the
decisions
that
we're
making
jessica
is
correct,
that
it's
very,
very
rare
that
we
do
raise
the
speed
limit,
we're
always
in
the
business
of
lowering
it,
because
we
put
our
traffic
counters
out
weather
dependent
every
week
at
anywhere
from
two
to
four
locations.
And
we're
constantly
doing
these
studies.
B
Thanks
ken
michael.
D
N
Well
again,
I
think
it
what
one
of
the
things
that
we're
charged
to
do
is
to
try
to
determine
what
a
speed
limit
is.
That
would
be
reasonable
and
effective
and
then
warranted
in
on
a
given
street,
and
when
you
find
areas
where
we'll
say
that
virtually
all
the
traffic
is
going
above
the
speed
limit,
then
we
have
to
look
to
make
sure.
N
Is
this
a
reasonable
speed,
or
is
everybody
just
going
to
totally
ignore
it
and
what
we
have
found,
especially
when
you
might
just
increase
it
say
from
a
20
to
a
25
many
times
we'll
see
we
get
better
compliance
out
of
the
drivers
on
a
road
like
that
now
I
say
that
to
say
that,
because
what
most
people
do
is
they're
going
to
drive
at
a
speed
they're
comfortable
with
and
if
you're
driving
a
road
day
in
and
day
out,
you're,
probably
not
even
looking
at
speed
limit
sign,
you're
just
you
know,
moving
along,
and
but
that's
that's
where
we
have
found
in
the
past.
N
But
again
it's
a
very
rare
thing
for
us
to
do.
D
Well,
I
have
to
tell
you
it's
really
disappointing.
You
know,
especially
considering
that
the
oakley
neighborhood
had
kind
of
singled
out
that
that
particular
corridor
thompson
street
as
an
area
that
that
people
would
want
to
utilize
for
pedestrians
and
bikes
and
to
the
point
where
you
know:
we've
we've
worked
with
the
city
to
have
open
streets
today,
and
I
think
the
trajectory
is
to
is
to
make
that
a
more
friendly
environment
to
put
viking
pedestrian
use.
D
So
it
just
seems
like
we're
going
the
wrong
way
on
this
one
and
and
is
another
example
of
where
we're
putting
cars
first,
and
I
know
that
this
group
has
made
it
explicit
in
our
retreat
that
we
we
want
to
to
you
know
turn
that
around
at
least
in
asheville
anyway.
So
I
I'm
glad
that
this
has
been
brought
up,
because
this
is
the
type
of
thing
I
really
just
would
never
want
to
see
happen
again.
E
C
Sure
yeah,
I
think
it's
great,
that
the
city
does
lots
of
things
to
try
and
ensure
the
safety
of
the
citizens
and
has
some
checks
in
terms
of
how
they're
determining
systems
for
things.
I
also
think
it's
a
flawed
system
in
lots
of
ways,
and
I
think
that,
right
now,
without
any
public
input,
that's
just
part
of
the
flawed
system,
and
so
we
can
at
least
help
solve
part
of
the
problem
by
having
some
public
input
in
the
process,
which
I
think
is
really
needed,
and
I
think
multimodal
is
the
appropriate
place
to
have
that.
B
Thanks
randy,
you
know,
I
kind
of
wonder
I
feel
like
this
might
be
one
of
those
situations
where
it's
just
a
confluence
of
a
particular
road
where
this
happened
well
intended
as
it
may
be,
but
you
know
it's
also
been
talked
about
as
a
potential
connection
to
a
larger
network
of
of
pathing,
and
so
I
I
think
it
just.
You
know
it's
kind
of
it's
one
of
those
rub
spots,
so
you
know,
I
completely
understand
what
ken
is
saying
and
I
I
feel
like.
B
Maybe
the
you
know
we'll
find
out
the
position
of
this
commission
is
that
we
have
at
least
some
input.
Some
opportunity
to
you
know
express
some
other
or
get
some
understanding
about
why
these
decisions
are
being
made
with
that
randy
do.
Does
someone
want
to
make
a
motion.
C
B
Okay,
can
I
get
a
second.
D
J
B
B
Thank
you,
michael
any
other,
further
comment
or
questions
on
the
topic.
Okay,
with
that
we'll
go
to
a
roll
call,
randy
warren
hi,
michael
stratton,.
D
F
A
B
B
K
Hi,
so
this
is
something
that
I
have
been
thinking
about
every
year.
The
city
council
has
a
discussion
about
items
that
they
would
like
to
potentially
bring
forward
to
the
legislature
legislature
through
our
representatives
and
there's
a
few
things
that
are
out
there
that
have
caught
my
eye
as
potential
things.
That
city
of
asheville
would
be
interested
in
and.
K
I
haven't
fully
prepared
any
kind
of
document
or
anything
to
provide
to
the
city
council,
but
there
were
three
things
that
I've
seen
recently
that
I
think
would
be
beneficial
to
have
a
discussion
about
with
city
council
at
some
point,
and
I
think
some
of
these
we've
talked
about
before,
especially
the
first
one,
so
the
consideration
of
allowing
a
reduction
to
the
default
roadway
speed
limit
from
35
to
25
unless
otherwise
posted.
There
were
a
couple
of
bills
that
were
put
forward
from
durham
and
I
think
greensboro
related
to
this
same
kind
of
concept.
K
K
It
still
is
bringing
the
issue
to
attention,
so
that
was
one
another
one
that
probably
doesn't
have
great
promise
either
and
is
a
bill
that
actually
senator
mayfield
brought
forward
is
to
be
able
to
assess
development
impact
fees
for
transportation.
So
I
linked
to
a
bill
that
that
was
brought
forward
this
past
session.
K
That,
unfortunately,
didn't
go
anywhere,
but
is
something
that's
that's
of
interest
to
to
me
at
least
personally,
just
because
our
funding
sources
for
transportation
improvements
are
so
are
so
limited
that
this
is
something
that
a
lot
of
other
states
allow
and
would
be
beneficial
to
the
city
and
other
cities
for
that
matter,
and
then
the
third
one
is
a
little
obscure
and
we
don't
really
talk
about
parking
a
whole
lot
in
this
in
this
commission,
but
one
of
the
one
of
the
nuances
of
state
laws
that
you
can't
really
mix.
K
On-Street
meter
parking
revenue
with
off
street.
So
like
garages
or
a
lot,
you
can't
mix
those
two
revenue
streams
and
use
them
interchangeably
to
make
improvements
or
do
maintenance,
and
so
it's
not
necessarily
that
that's
a
huge
issue,
but
it
does
present
some
challenges
and-
and
just
like
hinders
our
flexibility
when
we're
talking
about
parking
as
a
whole,
and
there
was
one
bill
that
was
brought
forward.
It
was
very
specific
to
a
very
specific
small
community
and
was
actually
passed
this
past
session.
K
That
allowed
them
to
to
do
that.
So
you
know
I
have
not
had
a
conversation
about
any
of
these,
specifically
with
anyone,
council,
members
or
other
or
even
legal
for
that
matter,
but
we
wanted
to
start
a
conversation
about
it
and
maybe
have
some
more
detail
at
our
next
meeting.
E
C
Yeah,
the
second
one,
just
getting
a
little
background
on
that
is
came
out
of
some
frustration
that
I
had
personally
of
my
son
goes
to
school
franklin
school
of
innovation,
which
is
on
sardis
road
and
a
month
or
so
ago.
You
know
a
huge
housing,
complex,
the
hundreds
of
homes
got
approved
right
next
to
a
school
and
there's
no
bike,
pedestrian
or
transit
facility
on
sardis
road,
and
it
gets
backed
up
tremendously
so
and
and
there's
no
consideration
really
to
infrastructure
when
housing
is
approved.
C
You
know,
especially
with
rezoning
and
outside
of
the
official
zoning
permits,
all
sorts
of
things
that
are
done.
So
my
initial
thing
was
like
you
know,
I
wish
we
could
just
put
a
moratorium
on
building
in
nashville
until
we
had
the
infrastructure
to
be
able
to
handle
it
right,
and
it
only
makes
sense.
I
mean
that
makes
sense
right
if
you're
just
thinking
about
things.
Logically,
you
wouldn't
build
more
until
you
had
instructions
that
could
handle
things,
but
it's
not
the
way.
C
We
do
things,
and
so
there's
no
way
we'll
get
a
moratorium
on
building
you
know.
But
so
what
can
we
do?
So?
The
impact
is
something
that
jessica
suggested
is
something
that
we
that
would
be
helpful
in
terms
of
this,
because
I
mean
you
know
we
all
know.
I
mean
our
city
rates
horribly
on
the
walk-in,
decks
and
and
more
people
are
killed
here
than
any
place
else
in
the
state
and
bikes
and
pedestrians
and
we're
horrible
in
those
ways
too
yeah
and
yet
we're.
C
I
am
strong
in
terms
of
being
able
to
do
anything
to
to
do
anything
to
improve
that
situation,
and
then
we
add
to
that
right.
Every
time
we
build
something
new,
so
I
mean
even
the
hotels
you're
getting
more
tourism
something,
but
when
you
build
housing,
you're
permanently
impacting
the
transportation
structure,
and
if
you
build
a
place
like
tardis
road,
where
you
have
no
option,
there's
no
option
to
safely
travel
traverse
that
road,
except
for
in
your
car
I
mean
you
can't
take
a
bus.
C
There
are
no
buses,
you
can
only
take
a
sidewalk
for
a
team
a
little
bit
of
it.
There's
little
things
in
the
sidewalk
and
you
can't
really
ride
a
bike
on
it,
so
we're
basically
putting
into
people
new
residents
that
were
encouraging
to
come
and
building
more
properties
into
a
situation
in
which
they're
forced
not
to
use
multi-mole
transportation,
and
that
just
seems
an
absolutely
ridiculous
thing
to
do,
and
so
we're
troubleshooting
ways
that
we
can
make
that
not
a
reality.
And
so
one
of
the
ways
is
in
the
impact
he's
a
building.
C
I
think
there's
other
ways
that
we
should
maybe
think
about
too
and
that's
something
we
should
have
a
bigger,
more
robust
discussion
about
because
we're
in
a
horrible
situation
where
we
keep
adding
people
and
cars
on
the
roads
that
can't
handle
the
existing
traffic
and
then
when
they
do
a
traffic
input
study
a
lot
of
times.
They'll
say:
well,
it's
only
going
to
add
another
100
cars
in
this
rush
hour
time.
It
really
will
have
a
change
in
impact,
so
you're
saying
well.
C
This
non-accessible
situation
that
we
have
now
will
be
made
a
little
bit
worse
by
adding
this
on,
and
so
it's
okay
to
just
keep
making
it
a
little
worse,
because
it's
so
bad
now
that
adding
a
little
bit
more
onto
it
won't
make
much
of
a
difference.
So
I'm
sorry,
I
get
a
little
off
track
on
that,
but
that's
the
impact
speed
discussion
too,
but
I
think
we
should
have
the
bigger
discussion
as
well
too,
because
of
those
reasons
I
just
talked
about,
I
don't
need
to
have
before
thanks
thanks.
B
D
Randy,
I
have
to
agree
with
that.
I
know
at
one
point
one
of
our
recent
meetings.
We
discussed
the
idea
of
having
some
investigation
on
whether
or
not
it
was
possible
to
change
the
the
city
code.
That
basically
said
if
you're
a
builder,
I
think
right
now
is
what
you
have
to
build
20
houses
on
on
a
road
frontage
before
you
have
to
add
a
sidewalk.
I
think
it's.
What,
if
I
recall
kenneth
had
told
us
recently,
so
it.
D
Randy
go
back
to
the
drawing
board
and
see
if
that
could
be
fixed.
There
is
a
lot
of
info
happening,
but
my
comment
was
actually
about
the
list
in
general
jessica.
I'm
I'm
appreciative
of
this
list.
I
think
it's
great.
As
far
as
the
bullet
items
are
concerned,
I'm
curious
to
know
if
we
can
add
any
other
suggestions
to
this.
D
K
Yeah,
of
course,
these
were
just
like
the
three
that
popped
into
my
head.
Another
one
that
was
attempted
and
failed,
but
might
be
attempted
again,
was
changing
the
current
legislation
that
allows
a
it
allows
a
quarter
cent
sales
tax
for
transit,
but
only
via
a
county
vote,
county-wide
vote,
and
so
senator
mayfield
had
proposed
a
bill
to
allow
a
city
to
have
a
vote
for
a
quarter
cent
sales
tax
and
that
did
not
move
forward
either.
K
So
there
are
other
things
and
and
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
it,
comes
down
to
our
state
and
how
it
is
a
dylan's
rule
state
which
basically
means
that
you
can't
do
anything.
K
A
city
can't
do
anything
unless
it's
specifically
allowed
through
legislation,
and
so
these
nuances
are
tricky
sometimes
and
that
we
really
have
very
little
flexibility.
So
this
is
just
a
start
and-
and
something
I
think
would
ultimately
through
our
liaison-
would
become
a
conversation
at
the
council
level
and
the
council
decides
which
items
they
want
to
bring
forward
to
as
the
city
of
asheville's
legislative
agenda
for
their
for
their
are
the
city's
lobbyists
and
our
senators
and
and
representatives
at
the
state
level.
D
Okay,
well,
I'm
going
to
use
this
as
an
opportunity
to
be
the
drum
that
I've
been
beating
on
since
before
I
was
a
commissioner.
This
is
in
regards
to
tda
spending,
as
many
of
you
know,
we're
we're
not
in
alignment
with
the
rest
of
the
state's
tdas
across
the
state.
We
pay
we're
allowed
to
use
25
of
our
tda
funding,
whereas
other
municipalities
around
the
state
can
spend
up
to
33.
D
It
doesn't
sound
like
a
lot,
but
when
you
collect
25
to
30
million
dollars
a
year
and
occupancy
taxes
that
adds
up-
and
I
know
right
before
the
pandemic-
we
had
a
delegation
that
was
on
its
way
to
to
writing
that
and
get
us
in
alignment.
D
So
I'm
hoping
that
we
can
reopen
that
can
of
worms
and
try
again
on
that
front
and
it's
my
understanding
that
was
senator
edwards
had,
I
think,
changed
his
mind
on
that
at
one
point.
So
now
he's
conducive
to
changing
that.
So
that's
step
one
and
then
step
two
is
you
know,
I
think,
just
the
broader
discussion
about
what
those
guidelines
dictate
that
we
spend
our
money
on
75
currently
has
to
be
spent
on
advertising
outside
of
our
our
borders.
D
So
that's
a
way
that
we're
siphoning
off
money
and
really
be
nice.
If
we
could
do
what
the
county
of
durham
is
doing,
they're
actually
using
their
tda
money
to
to
fund
their
transit
or
out
on
the
coast
after
a
hurricane,
they
can
use
their
tda
money
to
to
replenish
and
re-nourish
their
their
beaches.
So
there's
all
kinds
of
things
that
we
can
use
our
money
on
and
I
found
out
we've
been
pigeonholed,
so
it's
a
two-step
process
that
I'm
asking
for
for
consideration:
hey,
let's
get
into
alignment
and
then
b.
D
Let's,
let's
consider
like
a
broader.
You
know
overhaul
of
this
system.
B
Thanks
michael
joe.
I
Just
a
couple
things
jessica
did:
did
you
get
any
insight
from
julie
regarding
why
the
bill
failed?
Was
it
that
did
it
have
to
do
with
the
larger
political
thing
of
you
know
levying
an
impact
fee
for
one
or
was
it
more
just
directly
because
of
the
things
it
was
related
to?
I
assume
shaking
your
head.
You
didn't
get
any
any
insight.
K
No,
to
be
honest,
I
wasn't
even
aware
that
she
had
put
forward
that
bill.
Others
were
probably
aware
I
just
wasn't,
but
when
I
was
doing
some
searches
of
it
to
see,
if
any
other
any
other
place
had
put
forward
a
bill
this
past
session,
I
came
across
that
and
saw
that
senator
mayfield
had
signed
on
to
it.
K
I
think
she
was
a
co-sponsor
with
one
other
senator,
and
so
I
haven't
yet
had
a
chance
to
reach
out
to
her
to
find
out
what
the
what
the
conversation
was
about
that
and
where
it
got,
hung
up,
yeah
so
I'll
between
now
and
next
meeting
I'll
try
to
do
that.
Okay,.
I
Yeah
I
mean
I
was
curious.
I
know
you
know
this
you're
right.
I
think
it
does
my
understanding,
because
we've
talked
about
stuff
and
pnz
and
fee
and
lou,
and
all
this
kind
of
thing,
and-
and
there
definitely
are
you
know
you
know
with
conditional
zonings-
can
we
require
developers
to
do
these
things
and
it
gets.
I
You
know
the
understanding
that
we
have
gotten
from
you
know
doing
unc
school
of
government
trainings
and
then
also
from
janice
ashley
who's,
our
the
pnc's
legal
person
that
we
work
with
you
know
a
lot
of
it
does
have
to
do
with
that
dylan's
rule
issue
and-
and
I
it
seems
that
there
are
places
in
north
carolina
that
charge
impact
fees.
I
don't
know
what
the
specifics
are,
I'm
sure
janice,
you
know,
would
be
able
to
help
you
out
because.
I
Like
something
that
that
we
should
look
at
and
and
randy,
I
totally
hear
you
about
that.
Whole
sardis
road
thing
believe
me,
there's
yeah
there,
it's
yeah.
What
are
you
gonna
do.
B
So
jessica,
how
do
you
see
you
know
when
we
had
talked
about
these
items?
It
was
kind
of
the
these
tend
to
be.
These
three
bullet
points
that
they
come
up
in
some
form
or
another
over
our
meetings
over
the
year
they
come
up,
and
then
you
kind
of
put
them
in
this
nicer
package
of
saying
you
know.
B
Maybe
we
can
inform
or
give
a
a
list
of
priorities
that
are
impacting
transit,
that
we
could
push
to
the
council
for
their
consideration
when
they're
thinking
about
setting
their
pri
their
you
know
criteria
for
the
the
following
year.
Do
you
see
this
as
a
list
that
we
keep
throughout
the
year?
We
kind
of
keep
on
adding
to
it
at
the
bottom
of
our
agenda,
and
then
we,
you
know,
maybe
in
december
or
november,
we
you
know,
rank
them
and
say
okay.
This
is
what
we
want
to
put
forward
to
the
city
council.
B
2023,
this
is
where
we
think
we
really
need
to
keep
our
focus.
These
are
the
hot
buttons
you
know:
how
does
it?
How
does
it
take
shape.
K
Well,
I
think
I
think
the
the
legislative
agenda
is
somewhat
separate
but
related,
obviously
to
our
work.
But
you
know
the
timeline
for
legislative
agenda
is
related
to
the
legislation
legislative
session
right.
So
at
some
point
in
the
in
the
semi
near
future,
the
council
will
be
discussing
items
for
the
legislative
agenda
for
the
city
to
put
forward
to
the
legislature,
and
so
this
list,
for
me,
is
like:
let's
have
a
conversation
about.
K
Can
we
can
we
push
this
at
the
state
level
on
behalf
of
asheville?
So
it's
not
it's
not
necessarily
like
the
driving
force
behind
our
our
work
like
our
work
program.
These
are
just
like
issues
that
are
really
contributing
at
the
state
level
to
issues
that
happen
here
that
we'd
like
them
to
consider
changing.
I
don't
know
if
I
answered
that,
but
it's
their
our
work
program
and
the
legislative
agenda
are
not
necessarily
one
in
the
same,
and
we
can
add
things
to
the
list.
K
Like
I
mean
another,
one,
that's
really
annoying
to
me
is
that
counties
are
allowed
to
charge
people
for
street
lights
and
electricity
for
street
lights,
but
cities
cannot
so.
The
city
spends
1.1
million
dollars
a
year
on
electricity
for
street
lights,
but
counties
can
pass
that
cost
on
and
we
can't
so
there's
like
all
these
kind
of
nitpicky
laws
that
have
an
impact
on
us
and
our
bottom
line,
and
so
you
know
those
things
eventually
should
come
forward
granted
a
lot
of
times.
B
Okay,
joe.
J
I
With
all
boards
and
commissions,
you
know
there's
the
list
of
of
priorities
that
each
commission
would
like
to
see.
You
know
that
you
send
the
council
the
first
of
every
year
for
their
retreat,
so
we're
doing
that
for
pnz,
we're
going
to
discuss
it
at
our
meeting
next
next
week
on
wednesday,
and
I
can
certainly
bring
this
up.
You
know
the
idea
of
the
impact
fees
with
the
commission
and-
and
you
know,
certainly
talk
with
janice
about
it,
because,
like
say
I
know,
it's
happened
for
specific
instances
in
other
parts
of
the
state.
I
I
J
I
Can
bring
that
up
when,
when
pnz
discusses,
you
know
the
the
things
that
we
would
like
to
see
council
kind
of
tackle
for
the
next
year.
B
That's
a
really
good
point,
joe
randy
and
I
are
putting
together
our
report
right
now,
and
we
could
you
know
if
this
group
is
interested
in
them.
We
could.
We
could
add
this
to
that.
That
document,
which
I
think
is
completely
in
line
it'd-
be
nice
for
them
to
hear
it
from
two
different
places
as
well.
I
K
No
action
for
now
I
thought,
maybe
between
now
and
february.
Hopefully
I
can
get
some
more
information.
I
haven't
had
a
chance
to.
You
know
like
reach
out
to
talk
to
janice
ashley
in
our
legal
office
and
discuss
any
of
the
nuances
of
this
stuff.
You
know
I
look
at
it
and
I
say
like
oh
that's
dumb.
We
should
work
on
changing
it.
There
may
be
very
valid
reasons
why
it
isn't
as
easy,
as
I
think
or
there's
certainly
political
reasons
as
well,
but
so
I'll
bring
more
information
next
next
month.
I
I
Wanted
to
input
something
before
we
did
the
unfinished
business,
so
I
can
wait
until
if
you
got
anything
else.
I
The
one
thing
I
was
going
to
add:
I
don't
I'm
sure
everybody
saw
the
email
from
dana
about
the
public,
open
space
management
thing.
I
just
wanted
to
pop
that
in
you
know
just
to
keep
it
back
in
people's
minds.
As
far
as
you
know,
she
wants
to
restart
that.
So,
if
you
haven't.
E
B
I
B
That
was
excellent
follow-up,
but
actually,
at
the
last
item
of
unfinished
business,
I'll
kind
of
go
into
that
where
we're
going
to
include
that
information
as
part
of
the
four
action
items
that
came
out
of
our
retreat-
and
I
felt
like
that
dovetailed
in
of
course,
I
unfortunately
missed
that
meeting.
But
it
was,
I
watched
it
all
on
youtube
and
it
was
fantastic.
You
guys.
B
It
was
really
amazing
to
see
the
information
that
was
covered,
but
let's
go
kind
of
go
tackle
this
in
order
jessica,
any
update
on
the
merriman
avenue
public
engagement.
C
O
Hi,
my
name
is
vidyla
satnika,
I'm
with
the
department
of
planning
and
urban
design.
We've
been
communicating
and
working
with
transportation
for
a
couple
years
on
this.
In
fact,
it
was
about
a
year
ago
when
this
came
to
mtc.
O
So
just
the
background
is
that
the
ncdot
is
looking
to
resurface
as
part
of
their
regular
operational
maintenance
looking
to
resurface,
merriman
avenue,
and
so
we
asked
pretty
early
on
if
there
was
some
possibility
of
reconfiguring
the
street
as
part
of
that
through
just
the
changing
to
the
striping
after
after
resurfacing
happens
and
some
light
work
and
they
were
receptive
and
you
guys
were
brought
into
that
conversation.
O
Last
year
we
brought
in
maggie
and
randy
into
some
meetings
with
us
and
ncdot
and
over
the
last
year,
we've
kind
of
been
going
back
and
forth
on
goals
and
what
was
possible
reviewing
the
some
of
the
analysis
that
the
dot
and
their
consultants
ecom
conducted,
and
at
this
point
we've
we've
been
basically
given
a
go
ahead
to
hold
a
public
engagement
to
to
get
a
sense
of
what
the
asheville
community
is
open
to,
because
as
everybody's
aware,
there
are
trade-offs
right.
O
When
you
do
four
to
three
conversions,
especially
on
streets
with
higher
numbers
of
vehicles,
there
are
impacts
during
the
peak
hours,
especially
that
could
lead
to
more
traffic
and
congestion
and
delays.
But
there
are
plenty
of
benefits
to
safer
streets,
more
equitable
streets
and
because
the
the
four
to
three
would
bring
about
bike
lanes
and
make
a
more
pedestrian
friendly
environment.
O
So
we
have
been
chatting
recently.
We
have
a
small
little
working
group
to
try
to
refine
this,
because
we
we
basically
got
the
approval
in
late
december
to
do
this,
and
so
what
we
are
proposing
is
to
hold
a
public
engagement
in
person
on
february
28th
on
merriman
avenue,
and
to
do
some
virtual
engagement
that
same
week,
and
so
we
would.
O
We
would
have
refined
a
package
that
has
the
information,
the
visuals,
the
data,
the
charts
and
a
public
survey
to
to
kind
of
suss
out
the
different
questions
that
we
need.
O
And
so
that's
what
we
have
so
we're
hoping
to
launch
this
publicly
on
monday,
which
would
give
us
a
month
give
the
public
a
month
to
to
prepare
and
to
think
about
the
implications.
To
look
at
some
of
the
preliminary
data
or
to
start
talking
about
the
conversation
we
we
still
have
to
engage
a
little
bit
with
the
dot
exactly
on
what
the
the
content
would
be
and
how
they
would
be
involved.
But
that's.
This
is
kind
of
where
we
are
now
so
I'll.
Leave
it
at
that
and
go
from
there.
O
F
You
said
you're
launching
it
how
I
won't
be
able
to
be
in
person
on
february
28th.
How
can
I
access
this
information.
O
So
we
will,
I
think
the
idea
is
that,
on
the
28th
we
will
have
an
in-person
open
house
for
a
few
hours
that
same
week
will
will
push
the
same
information
to
the
web.
So,
on
the
project
website,
you
would
be
able
to
review
all
the
data
at
your
leisure.
O
You
would
be
able
to
access
the
proposed
the
conceptual
maps
and
to
to
submit
your
survey
responses,
look
at
the
questions
and
responses,
so
you,
basically,
I
think
anybody
who
wouldn't
be
able
to
attend
in
person
would
have
the
same
information
that
we
would
collect
at
least
for
a
week.
F
O
It's
going
to
go
to
d.o.t,
yeah,
no
it'll
be
a
city
website,
we're
working
on
it
now
and
it'll,
be
it'll.
It'll
be
really
easy
to
get
to
so
we'll
we'll
we'll
send
this
out
to
everybody
by
email.
Certainly,
commissioner,
members
will
have
a
direct
link.
You
can
just
touch
it
and
it'll.
Take
you
right.
There.
K
And
we'll
have
we'll
have
our
february
multimodal
meeting
a
few
days
before
this
open
house,
so
we
plan
to
bring
you
guys,
essentially
what
we'll
be
bringing
to
the
open
house
and
putting
on
the
web
as
well
so
you'll
have
that
opportunity,
as
well
as
multi-modal
commission
members,
you'll
be
another
opportunity
for
the
public
to
provide
input
as
well,
so
we're
trying
to
the
website
is
trying
to
be
broader,
but
also
produce
the
same
information
that
folks
that
can't
attend
the
open
house
will
see.
K
I
will
say
that
you
know,
like
padilla
said.
The
turnaround
like
the
preparation
of
all
of
this
stuff
is
happening
pretty
quickly,
and
you
know,
thankfully,
we've
got
staff
members
from
a
couple
few
different
departments
that
are
assisting
you
know
dot.
I
should
say
this
is
a
jointly
sponsored
public
engagement.
K
The
city
is,
I
would
say,
doing
the
the
majority
of
the
leg
work,
but
the
dot
is,
is
you
know,
participating
as
well,
and
they
want
to
see
as
much
public
engagement
as
possible
and
so
to
the
extent
that
anyone
from
the
multimodal
can
help
us
get
the
word
out
about
it,
especially
once
we
get
the
website
up,
which
vadilla
said
would
be
early
next
week.
K
Probably
like,
then
we
can
start
to
say
hey
guys,
like
everybody
pay
attention
to
this,
it's
going
to
be
coming,
and
if
anybody
had
contacts
on
that
on
merriman,
you
know
it
would
be
greatly
appreciated
if
the
mmtc
could
lend
a
hand
in
spreading
the
word
about
it.
K
Maggie
haven't
been
in
all
these
kind
of
subcommittee
or
smaller
group
meetings.
I
just
can't
echo
enough
that,
because
this
is
a
joint
meeting
with
a
city
and
dot
which
is
really
powerful
and
really
great
to
be
like
okay,
we
have
a
unified
front
from
these
two
institutions,
one.
I
think
it
would
be
fantastic
if
mmcc
was
also
like
a
co-host,
and
the
reason
is
because
we
can
play
a
really
different
role
in
doing
this
outreach
or
in
being
present
at
this
meeting,
then
staff
or
dot
can
because
staff
can
say.
Oh
this
comply.
K
You
know
four
to
three
meets
the
comp
plan,
and
this
is
part
of
a
complete
streets
vision
and,
like
that's
all
well
and
good,
but
that's
also
like
really
wonky
and
the
average
neighbor
on
this
corridor
probably
isn't
going
to
connect
to
those.
Whereas
us,
if
brandy
and
I
are
you
know
there,
helping
talk
this
through
and
y'all
are
there,
and
we
can
talk
about
the
vision.
We
can
talk
about
the
big
picture
of
a
safer
corridor,
which
I
think
will
help
people
connect
to
the
technical
materials.
K
So
I
think
it
could
be
a
really
good
opportunity
for
us
to
be
a
co-host
of
this.
For
that
reason,
and
then,
as
far
as
getting
the
word
out,
we've
been
able
to
invite
asheville
on
bikes
into
this
process
and
the
asheville
design
center
through
mountain.
True,
both
of
those
non-profits
have
very
extensive
member
lists
and
so
they've
both
committed
to
be
on
this
kind
of
team.
If
you
will
on
the
backstage,
but
also
be
pushing
out
the
materials
and
the
invitations
to
their
expensive
list,
so
that
we
get
again
this
great
turnout.
J
C
One
thing
too:
this
is
the
most
extensive
extended
conversations
that
had
with
ncdot
in
this
project
and
it's
important
for
our
group
to
understand
the.
I
don't
know
the
feeling.
You
know
that
we
that
we
get
from
the
eot,
because
then
cdfc
has
always
been
viewed
as
this
big
bad
thing
that,
despite
this
and
everything
and
in
this
process,
they've
kind
of
perpetuated
that
view
but
then
also
giving
us
a
lot
more
too.
C
So
they
are
oftentimes
they'll,
say
can't
do
this
can't
do
the
candidates
and
then
we'll
talk
about
it
and
argue
a
little
bit
and
the
next
meeting
they'll
come
back
and
be
like,
assuming
that
they
can
do
some
of
those
things
and
they
don't
even
never
tell
us
recent
meetings.
I
mean
that
oh,
we
thought
about
this
and
we
changed
their
mind.
It's
just
like
they
just
kind
of
get
in
a
little
bit.
C
You
know
not
a
lot
but
a
little
bit
on
things
stuff
too,
but
that's
a
great
opportunity,
though,
for
us
to
do
this
project
with
them
and
for
it
to
be
successful,
because
then
that
gives
us
opens
the
door,
hopefully
for
many,
many
more
collaborations
that
we
that
we,
you
know
they're
essential
to
us
being
able
to
do
things.
We
want
to
do
in
the
city
because
they
control
so
many
streets,
and
so
this
is
just
a
good
project.
I
think
that's
going
forward
in
a
way.
C
That
is
a
little
surprising
to
me
that
they've
been
as
immediately
as
they
have
been
in
this
process,
but
it's,
I
think,
an
opportunity
for
us
to
after
this
one's
over
or
even
while
this
is
going
on
to
continue
to
look
for
ways.
We
can
work
with
ncdot
and
know
that
they
will
help
us
in
some
ways
or
the
more
open
things
than
we
maybe
thought
they
had
been
in
the
past.
C
B
Was
done
I
mean
this
has
been
an
uphill
battle,
we've
all
been
kind
of
involved.
You
know
just
getting
updates
throughout
the
year.
You
know,
I
think
the
you
know.
The
one
thing
that
comes
to
my
mind
is
from
a
mission
messaging
standpoint
from
a
marketing
standpoint.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
communicate
that
that
that
road
does
not
operate
as
a
four-lane
road
right
now.
B
The
capacity
issues
with
those
inside
lanes
and
people
stopping
and-
and
you
know
that
I
think,
if
people-
I
think,
if
we,
if
we
say
we're
going
to
take
away
elaine,
it
might
be
a
frightening
experience,
but
expressing
that
we're
not
there,
there
isn't
full
capacity
right
now
due
to
those
the
turning
motions,
I
think
that's
an
important
element
that
I'm
sure
it
was
already
going
to
be
included,
but
I
just
feel
compelled
to
say
that
any
other
comments.
E
I,
like
the
point
about
having
multimodal
there
to
sort
of
shepherd
in
the
vision
for
the
corridor,
and
I
don't
know
what
the
full
extent
of
the
study
area
is.
But
you
know
it
comes
down
to
do.
We
want
merriman
avenue
to
be
a
road
where
we're
trying
to
get
people
from
a
to
b
as
quickly
as
possible,
or
is
it
a
street
with
houses
and
businesses
and
parks
and.
M
E
E
You
know
go
to
the
playground
for
the
library,
so
I
think
I
think
this
is
great,
and
I
do
want
to
echo
that
it's
it's
really
cool,
to
see
the
city
working
hand-in-hand
with
umt
on
this,
so
good
work,
jessica
and
madeline.
Everybody.
K
C
K
That's
true,
thank
you.
Yes,
I
we
are
borrowing
one
of
our
transit
staff
members
for
five
hours
a
week,
who
has
some
experience
and
bike
share
and
interest,
and
so
she's
helping
out
to
to
move
this
forward.
K
Yeah
and
then
the
the
this
bullet
is
really
just
all
of
the
information
that
went
out
and
all
the
notes
and
all
the
results
from
the
polls
that
we
did
at
our
joint
meeting
and
the
draft
public
space
management
framework,
and
then
joe
mentioned
earlier
that
dana
frankel
sent
out
an
email
looking
for
folks
to
sign
up
for
the
public
space
management
committee
and
I
think
she's
looking
for
two
multimodal
commission
members,
maybe
three.
But
she
would
love
to
have
a
couple
of
multimodal
folks
participate
in
that
committee.
B
Okay,
and
the
best
way
for
us
to
get
involved
is
to
kind
of
respond
to
her
message
that
she
had
sent
out
last
week.
B
Okay,
so
the
the
next
item
was
kind
of
just
a
follow-up
to
the
retreat
again
maggie.
Thank
you
so
much.
I
think
it
was
really
productive
and
helpful
and
the
output
from
that
was
our
four
kind
of
focus
areas.
And
then
we
have
two
folks
assigned
kind
of
raised.
We
each
raised
our
hands
to
each
of
the
areas
so
kind
of
the
discussion.
B
That's
in
front
of
us
now
is
you
know
we
want
to
circle
back
on
these
and
figure
out,
maybe
as
these
small
groups
as
these
pairs
go
off
and
say:
okay,
here's,
the
three
or
four
things
that
I
can
bring
back
to
the
group
for
us
to
have
these
discussions
and
then
we
can
kind
of
talk
about
those
things
and
just
to
understand.
You
know
kind
of
how
we
can
move
forward
joe.
Do
you
have
a
comment
on
this.
I
I
That's
that's
in
our
pnz
request
to
council
is
looking
at
you
know,
udo
and
and
how
to
get
those
changes,
even
if
it's
step-by-step
piecemail
or
wholesale
so
happy
to
help
you
and
maggie
with
that.
K
A
K
Don't
know
that
these
are
actually
reflected
accurately,
because
when
we
look
at
the
actual
notes
that
hyperlink
there,
I
don't
think
that
these
were
transcribed
right,
because
we
have
for
the
first
prayer,
kenny,
john
and
anna
and
the
second
priority
randy
and
dennis
the
third
priority.
K
Anna
who's
no
longer
here,
kenny
myself
and
I
think
bill
and
michael
and
then
the
transit
one
was
just
my
name.
So
unless
there
was
like
some
emails
going
around
where
people
kind
of
tallied
up
differently
that
I
missed,
we
might
want
to
get
these
updated
accurately.
B
Yeah
thanks
megan,
that's
a
good
point.
So
what
I
did
when
I
brought
this
information
over
is,
unfortunately,
ann
is
no
longer
with
us
on
our
in
our
group,
so
I
had
to
remove
her
and
then
what
I
tried
to
do
is
to
make
sure
that
we
had.
You
know.
I
believe
someone
had
some
folks
that
expressed
interest
like
I've
raised
my
hand
in
a
couple
places.
B
Let
me
know
where
I
can
help
out
where
it
makes
the
most
sense,
and
so
that's
kind
of
what
I
tried
to
do
is
it's
just
to
make
sure
that
we
had
two
folks
assigned
to
each
area.
If
you'd
like
to
move
around
you
know,
nothing
is
set
in
stone
here
so
feel
free
to
to
change
it.
But
what
I
was
trying
to
do
is
pull
the
information
out
of
the
of
the
the
document
that
you
had
created,
cut
at
the
end
there
and
get
those
names
assigned
to
these
topics.
B
So
maybe
there's
some.
You
know
if
there's
some
jostling
for
for
focus.
You
know,
that's
I'm
completely
open
to
it.
I
know
that
tristan
has
expressed
interest
in
participating
in
that
regional
transit
information
as
well,
so
we're
gonna
have
a
lot
of
of
help,
maybe
outside
of
our
group
as
well.
So
you
know
I'm
I'm
comfortable
maggie.
Is
there
something
specific?
Do
you
think
we
should
move
around
here
or
what?
K
I
just
was
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
were
reflecting
like
when
people
volunteered
that
we
were
honoring
where
they
wanted
to
be
on
and
I'm
particularly
interested
in
the
regional
transportation
stuff,
so
that
and
I've
already
been
meeting
with
a
small
group
on
the
pedestrian
zone
stuff.
So
just
so,
and
then,
if
you
know
I
was
feeling
like,
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
where
I
volunteered
was
captured,
I
wanted
to
see,
if
others
needed,
to
be
slotted
into
the
right
places.
Also.
B
Okay,
maybe
we
can
set
something
up.
We
can
kind
of
make.
B
Let's,
let's,
let's,
let's
take
step
one
first,
so
so
john!
Please.
G
So
I
was
gonna
say
the
the
first
one
kenny
and
bill,
and
I
had
actually
met
a
couple
times
regarding
that
topic.
That's
kind
of
where
we
were.
That
was
what
we
were
focusing
on.
The
transit
authority
was
kind
of
like
part
of
our
conversation
as
well,
because
they're
kind
of
they're
interrelated,
really
the
transit
infrastructure
and
shelters
and
then
regional
transit.
G
I
think
it's
like
because
it's
all
transit
related,
that's
kind
of
where
our
conversation
has
been
like
in
our
little
sub
group,
but
I
would
be
happy
to
focus
on
the
authority
as
well.
If
that's,
if
that
need
to
be.
G
K
Yeah,
I
think
I
think
three
I
mean
I
don't
know.
If
there's
I
don't
know
what
the
goal
is,
if
there
is
a
rule
or
if
you're
just
not
allowed
to
really
talk
about
anything
that
would
be
voted
on
yeah.
K
Yeah
exactly
so,
I
think
it's
okay!
If
you
have
three
or
four
people,
if
you're
careful
to
not
talk
about
specific
agenda
items
that
will
be
voted
on
which
at
this
point
we
don't
really
have
anything
that
I
can
I
can
see
these
are
so
I
mean
they're
kind
of
specific
but
they're
still
general
enough
to
where
I
think
it's
okay,
for
you
guys
to
have
working
group
that
are
still
within
the
bounds
of
public
process.
I
Does
that
and
we've
talked
about
that
with
pnz
and
if
you
call
it
a
task
force
and
you
keep
it,
I
mean
affordable
housing,
I
think
has
some
where
there's
like
five
of
them
in
it,
but
yeah.
There
is
a
distinction
of
making
sure
you're,
not
talking
about
actual
agenda
items
or
actual
what
would
be
in
in
this.
The
case
of
multimodal,
like
things
that
you
would
vote
on
to
put
forward
to
council.
N
H
Yeah
joe,
you
may
have
just
answered
it,
or
at
least
partially
I'm
still
confused,
though
somebody
take
help
me
understand
how
a
small
breakout
group
goes
from
working
out
some
idea
to
at
some
point
in
the
future.
It
becomes
an
agenda
item
at
what
point
can
you
do?
You
have
to
be
openly
transparent
in
that
process?
That's
what
I
don't
understand
yet.
A
K
K
So
the
fourth
bullet
is
a
little
borders
a
little
bit
on
something
that
probably
needs
to
be
narrowed
down
a
little
bit
and
have
some
specific
items
that
are
actionable
and
time
limited.
So,
for
example,.
K
Advocate
to
the
county
and
the
city
to
prepare
a
city,
county
transit
master
plan,
or
you
know
something,
that's
a
little
bit
more
specific
and
time
limited
it.
It's
it's
definitely
a
gray
area,
but
the
the
time
limited
part
and
trying
to
be
as
specific
as
possible
is
what
can
be
a
task
force
or
a
working
girl.
I
To
the
regional
transit
system,
but
it's
it's
totally
actionable
and
again
very
appropriate
to
what
what
pcc
and
and
planning
department
everybody.
You
know
we're
already
talking
about
trying
to
push
for
udo
changes
so.
B
Yeah
that
makes
sense
to
me
as
well
any
other
comments
on
that.
So
maybe
what
we
do
well,
let's,
let's
do
this
first,
let's
how
do
we
want
to
proceed
so
we're
gonna
have
three
to
four
items
that
we're
gonna
go
forward
with.
Do
we
see
these
as
things
that
we,
you
know
each
group
kind
of
goes
off
and
then
comes
back
and
we
assign
one
over
the
next
four
meetings,
or
should
we
all
come
back
and
in
one
meeting
we
address
them
all
and
start
to
get
them
going.
B
I
mean
I
had
bill
and
I
had
kind
of
have
an
offline
conversation
about
kind
of
some
urgency
involved
in
some
of
these
issues
and
we
don't
obviously
never
want
to
lose
any
opportunities,
budgeting
opportunities
or
some
you
know,
other
external
kind
of
you
know,
impetus,
that's
happening.
So
how
do
we,
as
a
group,
see
how
we
want
to
approach
this
through
2022.
F
I'd
kind
of
like,
I
would
suggest
that
we
wanted
to
do
per.
Oh,
I'm
sorry,
michael.
F
I
would
suggest
doing
focusing
on
one
of
those
four
issues
per
meeting,
because
I
think
they're
they
would.
They
would
tend
to
be
too
much
overwhelming
in
one
meeting.
That's
my
thought.
B
D
I'm
probably
going
to
volunteer
for
that
working
group
that
dana
had
had
asked
for
on
the
shared
spaces,
and
that
coincides
with
bullet
point
three.
So
I
would
like
to
at
least
go
to
one
of
those
before
I
give
a
timeline
as
far
as
what
I'm
gonna
report
on
on
that
one.
C
H
H
H
K
K
K
And
then
we
could
create,
like
a
shared
document
that
we
could
attach
to
the
agenda
every
month,
so
that
everybody
can
see
what
what
those
action
items
are
and
any
progress
that
has
been
made
on
them
monthly
and
maybe
reserve
20
minutes
for
each
meeting
or
30.
If
we
can
to
have
to
pick
a
few
or
or
have
a
round
round
table
like
this.
This
is
what
this
committee
did,
or
this
subcommittee
task
force
talked
about
and
what
we
got
accomplished
and
what
we
plan
to
do
next,
so,
like
mini,
updates,
monthly.
B
Yeah,
maybe
it
could
be,
it
could
live
in
unfinished
business
and
we
just
say
retreat
topics
and
then,
as
information
comes
in
you
know,
I
I'd
like
to
have
you
know,
and
maybe
it's
over
the
next
two
meetings,
because
I
I
agree
with
bill
that
I
don't
want
to
lose
any
you
know
any
momentum.
I
felt
like
we
had
some
momentum
coming
out
of
there
we
hit
the
holidays.
Maybe
it
dropped
off
a
little
bit.
So
maybe
what
it
is
is
we
have.
You
know
the
next
meeting.
B
We
have
two
and
then
the
following
meeting
we'll
have
two
and
then
we
can
start.
You
know
applying
some
of
that
information,
but
first
we
have
to
figure
out
kind
of
who
who's
gonna
be
here
jessica.
Would
it
work
if
everyone
just
emailed
me
and
copied
you
to
say
I
wanna
be
a
part
of
this
group
and
then
I
can
kind
of
figure
out
make
sure
we
have
two
assigned
to
each
group
and
then,
if
there's
an
issue
I
can
say
all
right.
B
H
B
Okay,
randy.
C
Yeah,
I
just
let
you
know
that
when
we
meet
about
the
merriman
issue,
I
bring
this
up
all
the
time.
Every
single
meeting
I
say
that
connected
bicycle
network
is
one
of
the
top
priorities
of
the
multimodal
for
this
year
and
by
putting
the
bike
lanes
on
merriman,
that's
a
huge
issue.
It's
a
huge
advancement
in
towards
the
goal
stated
goals
of
this
commission.
C
So
so
I
think
in
those
ways
we
can
be
working
on
these
issues
ongoing
and
so
every
every
time
I
come
up
with
anything
I'm
talking
to
the
city
about
that
might
involve
connecting
the
bike
network
I
bring
up.
This
is
a
priority
for
our
group,
so
I've
been
using
that
all
the
time
for
that,
and
I
think
that
you
know
we
should
do
that
whenever
we
can
this,
but
it
works
specifically
well
with
it
with
with
this.
C
So
you
know
we
are
doing
a
lot
of
action
here,
so
I
think
that
an
ongoing
update
is
a
good
way
to
do
it.
So
the
way
the
whole
commission
can
be
involved
in
this
is
by
actively
participating
in
the
public
session.
It'll
happen
in
february,
either
online
or
in
in
person,
and
then
that
helps
us
to
fill
that
goal.
K
Right,
I
I
was
just
going
to
say
this
is
something
I
talked
about
with
randy
and
dennis
that
I
I
was
listening
to
a
podcast
recently
that
was
talking
about
small
nudges
and
the
importance
of
small
nudges
or
incremental
incrementalism
is
a
more
wonky
way
to
say
it,
but
as
as
boring
as
it
sounds,
it's
those
small
nudges
that
make
the
difference
and
and
so
the
the
action
items
don't
have
to
be
huge
or
endeavors
it
can
be
to
you
know,
one
of
them
can
be
to
advocate
at
the
meeting
for
the
merriman
bike
lanes
or
to
write
three
letters
to
the
county
commission
about
the
comprehensive
plan
update.
K
You
know,
like
those
sorts
that
I
think
we
sometimes
get
lost
and
we
get
lost
in
the
forest
right.
So
I
don't
want
you
guys
to
feel
like
you
have
to.
This
is
not
like
we're
going
to
solve
climate
change
in
three
months.
This
is
here's,
some
small
things
that
this
group
can
do
with
their
advocacy,
hats
or
whatever
to
help.
Or
you
know
it
doesn't
need
to
be
a
massive
thing.
E
I
Yeah,
I
think
you
know
teeing
off
of
that
jessica,
you're,
exactly
correct
and
I'll.
Just
a
couple
things
you
know
the
way
affordable
housing
has
been
doing
their
task
force
is
yet
you
know
those
groups
break
off,
they
do
their
thing
and
then
it's
a
pretty
much
a
standing
on
the
unfinished
business
that
each
one
kind
of
reports.
I
So
they
only
have
three,
and
so
it's
pretty
quick
and
you
know
it
might
be
probably
less
than
10
minutes,
but
each
you
know
one
just
kind
of
says
what
they've
been
working
on
and
one
of
the
things
they're
working
on
also
too
is
how
to
what
changes
might
have
to
happen
with
the
udo
to
make
it
better
or
more.
You
know
easier
for,
say,
infill,
housing
or
things
like
that.
I
So
again,
I'll
just
come
back
to
that
first,
one
as
far
as
the
bus
stop
standards,
and
things
like
that
like
it
is
one
that
that
you
know
I
personally
and
and
lots
of
others
have
been
harping
on.
You
know
we
need
to
do
something
with
the
udo.
So
if
it's,
you
know,
if
there's
things
that
come
from
affordable
housing,
there's
stuff,
that's
kind
of
pnz,
there's
stuff
that
comes
from
multimodal
like
council
is
gonna
start
getting
it.
So
you
know
it
doesn't
have
to
be
a
huge
thing.
I
think.
I
B
Yeah,
I
agree
with
you
joe,
and
I
think
you
can
even
grow
from
those
ideas
to
something
else.
It
doesn't
mean
that
we
have
to
you
know
we
have
these
four
items
and
then
this
goes
away.
Maybe
we
have,
you
know,
there's
something
else,
so
we
can
redo
it.
So
maybe
the
way
we
can
go
forward
is
we'll
do
this.
We,
if
everyone
just
can
email
me
on
the
side,
so
we're
don't
call
us
any
trouble.
B
Let
me
know
which
group
you
want
to
be
a
part
of
I'll
make
sure
we
have
two
of
each
and
then
before
the
next
meeting,
we'll
all
reach
out
to
our
groups,
we'll
start
to
formulate
a
couple
of
topics
and
see
where
we
can
go
and
then
we'll
have
a
check
in
on
the
next
meeting
and
then
see.
If
we
can
so
you
know,
the
work
doesn't
have
to
be
precipitated
based
on
our
us
meeting
and
talking
about
it.
B
The
work
groups
can
be,
you
know,
gathering
information
and
putting
things
together
outside
of
this
group
and
coming
back
and
giving
a
check
in,
and
then
we
can
make
figure
out
how
you
know
when
it's
appropriate
for
us
to
come
in
and
have
maybe
a
15
or
20
minute
presentation
on
each
one
to
say
this
is
where
we're
at,
and
this
is
where
we're
at
a
point
where
we
need
to
put
some,
you
know,
get
some
of
the
manpower
of
the
group,
but
you
know
some
people
power,
the
group
behind
what
we're
gonna
do
next.
B
Does
that
make
sense
with
everybody
shaking
heads?
Are
we
good
okay?
So,
let's,
let's
kind
of
you
know,
move
forward
with
that,
and
then
we
can
kind
of
you
know
make
sure
that
we
keep
the
momentum
going
and
get
some
things
done,
but
also
you
know
again,
we
don't
have
to
like
jessica
and
joe
are
saying
you
know.
Some
of
these
things
are
really
important
to
kind
of
just
make
sure
that
we're
being
heard.
B
Excellent:
let's
go
into
committee
updates,
transit
committee,
john.
G
Okay,
so
we,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
we
did
not
have
a
meeting
this
month,
but
in
december
we
had
the
new
applicant
built
analytic
that
we
just
that
we
just
approved
they.
We
talked
about
some
on-time
improvements
on
some
of
the
roots.
G
They
postponed
some
of
the
changes
regarding
extended
service
hours
and
increased
frequency
on
the
s3
and
s6
due
to
driver
shortage,
and
they
in
response
to
that
they're.
Our
atp
dev
is
trying
to
they're
they've,
started
a
driver,
recruitment
campaign
and
a
wage
analysis
to
try
and
conduct
a
wage
analysis
to
see
what
they
can
do
to
try
and
recruit
drivers.
G
They
say
received
a
one
million
dollar
grant
for
bus,
stop
improvement
for
bus,
stop
improvement
project
and
their
the
plan
is
that
money
will
be
used
for
shelters,
and
I
think
that's
it.
That's
all.
I
have.
B
Okay
thanks
john
greenway
kenny.
E
Yeah
I
mean
lucy's,
maybe
on
so
she
might
be
able
to
dive
in
we,
we
toured
the
french
broad
river
west
and
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
some
of
the
new
projects
going
on
the
extension
of
the
connecting
swananoa
river
behind
I'll.
Just
let
lucy
take
it
away
since
she
knows
everything:
hey
lucy,.
A
Let's
see,
we
approved
our
report
and
sent
it
in
to
you
guys
and
to
sarah,
and
we
are
preparing
to
take
a
close
look
at
the
gap
which
will
happen
in
in
our
february
meeting
as
it
will.
Yours,
too,
you
will
be
seeing
us
in
february.
B
C
Yeah,
so
we
we
we're
still
finding
our
way
a
little
bit
without
barb,
and
it's
one
of
the
things
we
talked
about
was
both
barb
and
janet
barlow
passed
away,
and
we
want
to
properly
and
appropriately
recognize
their
contributions
to
bike
and
pedestrian
issues.
Nashville
and
so
we're
trying
to
work
through
that
a
little
bit
and
see
what
we
can
possibly
do
for
that.
C
And
then
a
lot
of
the
meeting
was
spent
actually
talking
about
the
merriman
issue
as
well
too,
and
trying
to
recruit
a
lot
of
people
to
help
support
that
a
lot
of
the
people
in
the
bike
bed
have
had
issues
with
they've
been
involved
in
the
charlotte
street,
the
road
diet,
for
example,
and
and
and
then
some
of
the
previous
possible
improvements
potential
improvements
on
merriman
too,
and
so
they
have
some
experience
with
dealing
with
the
public.
In
that.
K
B
Great,
thank
you
pnz
joe.
I
Yeah
one
thing
I
know-
that's
been
a
big
topic
of
late
in
the
community.
Is
the
revised
open
space
requirements
that
one's
kind
of
gotten
pushed
again.
This
is,
I
think,
the
third
time
that
it's
gotten
removed
from
our
schedule.
So
I
guess,
if
you
you
know,
you
know
anybody
that
is
interested
in
that
kind
of
stay
tuned.
I
think
there's
going
to
be
some
revision.
There
might
even
maybe
possibly
some
some
other
public
input
on
that.
I
I'm
not
sure
I
know
it's
just
been
pushed
off
a
little
bit
other
than
you
know,
kind
of
things
I've
mentioned.
You
know
we
are
going
to
be
putting
forward
our
requests
or
recommendations
to
counsel
on
things
that
that
we'd
like
for
them
to
look
at
from
a
planning
standpoint
which
is
going
to
be
talking
about
the
udo
like
seriously
how
to
either
wholesale
redo
or
you
know
piecemeal,
start
start
working
on.
You
know
either
how
to
get
the
funding.
I
How
to
you
know,
start
making
that
happen
and
then
also
we've
started
talking
about.
I've
been
talking
with
staff
about
doing
a
retreat,
which
is
going
to
be
focused
on
diversity,
equity,
inclusion
as
it
relates
to
zoning.
So
that's
going
to
be
a
hopefully
we're
going
to
do
that
in
february.
So
that's
going
to
be
a
big,
a
big
hurdle.
B
Excellent,
thank
you.
We
don't
have
a
knack
update,
I
don't
believe
I-26
aesthetics.
K
No,
but
the
only
thing
I
can
I
can
report
about
I-26
is
that
staff
has
submitted
a
grant
request
to
the
mpo
for
to
do
a
study
of
essentially
we're
calling
it
east
patent.
But
what
we
mean
by
that
is
basically
where
the
bowen
bridge
end
or
will
end
to
clingman,
because
the
I-26
project
will
drastically
change
all
of
the
ramps
and
entrances
and
exits
and
everything
about
I-26,
interchange
and
the
bowen
bridge
will
be
so
different.
You
won't
even
recognize
it
and
there's
been.
K
K
And
you
know
we
continue
to
talk
with
d.o.t
about
I-26
project
in
general,
but
really
starting
to
get
to
the
the
nitty-gritty
on
it,
because
it's
happening
it's
coming
our
way.
It's
like
a
like
a
tsunami.
That's
coming
from
the
south,
that's
going
to
move
north
through
this
whole
area
and
we
need
to
zoom
zoom
in
now
on
on
the
connections
and
the
connectivity
and
what
those
what
those
things
look
like
and
how
they
impact
our
local
roads.
B
Okay,
great
michael.
D
I
just
want
to
say
that
I'm
an
advocate
of
a
funicular
from
the
red
to
the
top
of
the
boat
bridge
when
we
get
that
new
land
freed
up.
A
K
And
I
we
could
we
could
at
a
future
meeting.
I
would
be
happy
to
invite
some
of
our
planning
and
urban
design
staff
to
come
up
with
some
concepts
of
what
kind
of
what
that
what
it
could
look
like
it's
very
hard
to
envision
without
having
something
to
look
at,
because
you
look
go
through
that
whole
area
now,
and
it's
going
to
be
so
much
different.
Look
so
much
different,
so
we
can
bring
bring
some
more
concept,
looks
to
you
guys
in
the
future.
I
Joe
yeah,
just
real
quick,
I
know
one
of
the
things
we
actually
projects
that
was
up
for
discussion
at
last
month's
pnz
was
for
haywood
street
congregation
over
there
kind
of
near
actually,
it's
property
right
next
to
boy
scouts
directly
across
from
the
transit
center,
and
we.
I
Brief
discussion
about
you
know
the
fact
that,
right
now
what
gets
built
there
is
looking
on
you
know
I
240
and
that
in
1520,
whenever
they
get
26
done,
will
not
be
looking
at
that
so
yeah.
There
are
some
interesting
at
least
right
now
what
I
would
call
kind
of
napkin
sketches
about
how
that
area
gets
transformed,
but
yeah
it
certainly
is,
has
a
lot
of
potential
to
change
a
lot
of
things
about
that
part
of
downtown
for
sure
excellent.
B
Okay,
please
note
these
staff
list
of
projects
and
our
future
agenda
items
need
anything
added
to
that.
Just
let
us
know
we
can
get
something
on
there.
Next
meeting
is
february
23rd,
please
send
your
email
to
me
about
what
part
you
want
to
be
a
part
of
from
the
retreat
and
if
there's
no
other
comments,
we
can
adjourn.
Anybody
have
a
comment
all
right.