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The
staff
are
participating
virtually
for
those
of
you
out
there
with
us
today
welcome
to
help
our
audience
follow
along
I'll
state.
Each
section
of
the
agenda
aloud.
We
are
streaming,
live
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our
virtual
engagement
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which
is
accessible
through
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virtual
engagement
hub
link
on
the
front
page
of
the
city
website.
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And
entering
the
code
4956,
we
are
also
broadcasting
live
on
the
city's
youtube
channel
for
public
comment.
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ask
callers
to
sign
up
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advance
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join
the
live
speaker
queue.
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only
be
taking
live
comments
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signed
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to
tonight's
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minutes
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speak
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each
agenda
item.
We
will
hear
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for
up
to
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hour
for
each
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reminder
to
callers.
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each
agenda
item
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person
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accordance
with
the
city's
procedures.
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substitutions
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allowed.
Each
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minutes
to
speak
and
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agent
on
an
agenda
item
in
general.
Each
agenda
item
will
have
up
to
a
total
of
one
hour
for
public
comment.
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speaker
may
not
share
or
relinquish
any
remaining
time.
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have
not
used
to
another
speaker.
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should
not
expect
council
members
or
city
staff
to
comment
on
or
respond
to
the
speaker's
comments
during
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minutes.
I'll
now
go
through
and
introduce
all
council
members
in
stock
leadership.
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A
Okay,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
to
approve
the
consent
agenda.
We
do
have
a
couple
of
people
signed
up
to
speak
under
the
consent
agenda,
so
callers.
You
will
first
hear
staff
and
form
council
that
you're
next
to
speak,
then
you
will
hear
an
automated
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letting
you
know
you
are
unmuted
and
live
in
the
meeting.
You
may
begin
speaking
after
the
automated
message,
if
you
accidentally
drop
out
of
the
speaker,
queue
just
redial
the
number
end
meeting
code
press,
star,
3
to
rejoin
the
speaker
queue.
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J
Yeah
hi,
everyone
can
hear
me.
J
So
I
am
interested
in
seeing
the
reparations
commission
outcome.
Final
report-
I
just
want-
there's
no
doubt
that
slavery
happened
and
today,
according
to
your
own
office
of
equity,
inclusion,
2019
equity
inclusion
reaction
report,
71
percent
of
asheville's
african-americans
live
in
with
housing.
That
kind
of
says
segregation
is
real
today,
but
the
way
things
are
going,
it
seems
like
there's
promises
of
two
million
dollars
and
the
plan
comes
later,
there's
sort
of
an
outline.
J
And
when
I
saw
that
recently,
it
just
kind
of
grew,
here's
some
parcels
of
land-
don't
know
the
providence
of.
Maybe
you
know,
maybe
we
might
find
out
which
folks
from
the
60s
actually
were
impacted
by
urban
renewal
and
now
we're
52
acres
of
land
and
the
valuation.
J
I
have
a
lot
of
business
education,
the
valuation,
the
monetary
amounts
of
that
value,
assessed
by
someone
in
the
real
estate
industry,
who's,
not
city
of
asheville,
the
city
of
national
employee.
I
would
think-
and
not
just
the
project
manager,
but
the
you
know
this
is
about
this
this,
because
some
of
the
aging
item-
f,
I
think
it
is-
is
about
the
project
manager.
J
I
don't
see
real
estate
assessment
in
her
background.
Her
other
qualifications
look
very
interesting,
but
does
this
real
estate
valuation
of
this,
this
52
acres
that
are
now
part
of
reparations?
It
needs
to
be
elucidated
and
shared
with
the
public,
and
I
I
for
so
for
whatever
for
everything
I'm
seeing
about
this
project
manager.
She
looks
great
I'd
like
to
see
her.
What
her
company
is
about
it's
something
having
to
do
with
I.t
and
equity
and
health
care,
but
her
web.
She
doesn't
seem
to
have
website
that
can
happen.
J
Consultants
don't
always
have
a
website,
but
now
she's,
really
public
she's,
doing
a
very
high
profile
activity
with
city
of
asheville
and
the
kind
of
the
whole
world
will
be
watching
this
reparations
process
her.
What
her
company
is
about
kind
of
how
she's
packaging,
what
doing
as
it
can
become
forward.
Thank.
F
Hey
everybody:
it's
jonathan
wayne,
scott.
I
was
also
calling
in
to
weigh
in
on
item
f
and
I'm
glad
to
see
that
the
reparations
process
is
make
moving
forward
and
I'm
glad
that
the
project
manager
is
somebody
who
is
local
and
understands
the
community,
and
I
believe
tequity
has
been
given
the
mosley
seal
of
approval.
So
I
feel
pretty
confident
about
their
abilities
to
essentially
provide
us
with
an
an
independent
audit.
F
If
you
will
of
systemic
racism
here,
you
know
as
we
need
to
ensure
that
our
budget
and
plans
and
policies
do
not
continue
to
perpetuate
harm.
While
we
move
toward
the
healing
and
repair
and
liberation
of
white
supremacy
culture
here
in
asheville.
So
I
do
want
to
interestingly
enough
to
correct
the
previous
caller,
who
once
again
has
cited
some
sort
of
information
from
the
department
of
equities
web
page
or
something
that
says
that
70
something
percent
of
asheville's
african-american
population
lives
in
public
housing,
and
that's
not
true.
F
That
was
mentioned
in
the
first
night
of
the
reparations
lecture
series
by
another
person
from
the
community
and
it
was
corrected
on
the
third
night.
So
there
might
be
some
misinformation
going
out
there.
I
just
want
to
say
thanks
for
moving
that
forward
and
to
whatever
degree
there
might
be
some
missing
skills
in
the
project
manager.
I
do
believe
that
the
commission
could
be
formed
should
be
of
about
25
people
from
what
I've
heard.
So
I
believe
that
there's
a
lot
of
talent
and
perspectives
to
draw
into
this
process.
F
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
bringing
it
forward
and
and
moving
it
along
all
right.
I'll
talk
to
you
guys
in
just
a
little
bit
during
public
comment
and
for
informal
discussion
thanks.
A
G
K
A
L
Thank
you
mayor
and
again
hello,
everyone
as
you.
If
you
have
the
agenda,
my
manager's
report
will
be
actually
given
by
todd
o'containing
our
planning
director,
and
he
is
going
to
provide
us
with
an
update
on
the
hotel
regulations
and
hotel
overlay
district
that
council
approved
just
recently.
L
What
I
do
need
to
go
on
record,
though
of
is
saying.
I
deeply
apologize
because
usually
I
like
to
get
the
manager's
report,
the
presentations
posted
in
in
a
timely
manner,
usually
it's
the
day
before
or
at
the
latest.
It's
at
noon
today
and
I
did
not
make
that
deadline,
and
I
want
to
go
on
a
record
that
that's
I
own
that
and
I
deeply
apologize
so
with
that.
I
will
turn
it
over
to
todd
for
him
to
provide
you
with
the
update.
Thank
you.
M
Thanks
debra
and
good
evening,
mayor
and
council
members
title
coaching
planning
and
urban
design
director
next
slide.
Please,
as
deborah
mentioned,
the
purpose
of
the
presentation
tonight
is
really
to
give
you
all
an
update
on
the
last
six
or
seven
months
since
council
adopted
the
new
hotel
regulations.
M
There
are
several
key
takeaways
from
the
presentation
this
evening,
including
that
the
regulations
are
working
as
they're
intended
that
the
text
amendments
are
needed
for
clarification
purposes,
the
design
review
committee,
membership
should
be
adjusted
and
that
staff
is
currently
engaging
the
community
on
the
public
benefits
table
next
slide.
Please
again,
to
give
you
some
background
about
this
update
to
you
all
tonight.
I
M
The
goal
of
the
standards
are
to
improve
predictability
and
transparency
in
the
hotel
development
review
process,
to
establish
where
hotels
are
appropriate
in
the
city,
to
leverage
hotel
development,
to
achieve
community
benefits
and
to
limit
impacts
of
new
hotels
and
finally,
to
enhance
the
design
of
hotels.
Next
slide.
Please.
M
There
are
three
key
elements
of
those
hotel
development
standards
and
I'll
review
each
of
these
separately
and
give
you
a
brief
overview
on
how
each
of
these
key
elements
are
working
next
slide,
please
first
key
element
and
how
it's
working.
This
involves
the
hotel
overlay
district.
This
is
the
new
zoning
map
that
was
created
to
establish
where
small
and
hotels
might
be
located
or
permitted
in
the
city
and
the
development
standards.
These
are
all
the
the
text,
amendments
that
were
also
adopted
by
city
council
next
slide.
Please.
M
Between
february
and
august
of
this
year,
there
have
been
a
total
of
five
hotel
projects
that
have
been
submitted
to
the
city,
three
large
hotels
and
two
small
hotels.
As
a
reminder,
a
large
hotel
is
defined
as
over
35
rooms.
All
those
hotels
are
located
in
downtown.
M
Four
of
those
hotels
have
had
the
option
to
meet
the
public
benefits
standard.
This
is
as
a
recap.
The
public
benefit
standard
is
an
incentivized
based
approach
that
you
all
adopted
to
try
to
encourage
hotels,
to
provide
community
benefits
such
as
affordable
housing,
paying
to
a
reparations
fund
or
paying
living
wages.
M
M
These
projects
are
52
broadway
street,
which
is
a
small
boutique
hotel,
with
five
total
hotel
rooms,
120
biltmore
avenue,
which
would
contain
40
hotel
rooms,
the
moxie
hotel,
which
would
be
in
addition
to
the
current
aloft
hotel
that
would
have
115
rooms,
so
that
would
be
the
largest
hotel,
that's
proposed.
M
That
would
be
just
under
the
city
council
review
threshold
and
then
finally,
44
collier
avenue,
which
would
contain
24
hotel
rooms
of
these
projects.
M
M
The
final
clarification
is
an
observation
that
we
feel
is
needed
to
address
and
to
better
distinguish
between
what
we
would
call
an
extended
state
hotel
versus
a
condo
hotel,
which
is
a
land
use
that
acts
more
like
a
short-term
vacation
rental.
Several
of
these
projects
have
included
what
we
would
call
it.
An
extended
stay
type
unit,
which
includes,
might
include
a
living
room,
space
or
a
kitchen.
M
The
second
key
element
is
the
public
benefits
table
next
slide.
Please
some
of
staff's
observations
for
public
benefits
are
that
there's
currently
not
enough
data
to
comment
on
how
the
point
threshold
is
working.
M
Again,
as
a
recollection
and
recap,
council
approved
a
new
joint
design
review
committee
to
review
all
hotel
projects,
as
well
as
all
larger
projects
for
other
types
of
land
uses
that
occur
in
the
downtown
and
the
riverfront
area.
M
The
joint
design
review
committee
has
nine
members,
council
appoints
four
qualified
members
from
the
downtown
commission
and
four
from
the
asheville
area.
Riverfront
redevelopment
commission
to
serve
on
that
committee
and
the
joint
design
review
committee
appoints
one
member
from
the
community
as
an
at-large
member
for
a
total
of
nine
members.
M
Next
slide,
please
some
of
staff's
recommend
excuse
me.
Observations
include
that
the
design
review
committee
has
been
formed,
that
there
have
been
four
meetings
that
have
been
held
to
date,
in
which
the
committee
has
reviewed
nine
total
cases,
including
two
hotel
projects.
So
there
have
been
several
projects
that
have
been
reviewed
that
have
been
other
types
of
land
uses,
such
as
residential
or
commercial
projects.
M
M
M
So
staff
is
suggesting
that
there
could
be
a
possible
amendment
to
the
makeup
of
the
design
review
committee.
As
a
reminder
on
the
left.
The
current
committee
makeup
includes
four
members
from
the
downtown
commission,
four
members
from
the
riverfront
commission
and
the
one
at-large
member,
that's
appointed
by
the
design
review
committee
and
that
equals
a
total
of
nine
members
of
those
nine
members.
Council
appoints
eight
of
those
one
recommendation
could
be
to
have
a
more
equal
distribution
where
there
would
be
three
members
from
the
downtown
commission.
M
Some
of
the
benefits
of
this
potential
change
would
mean
that
it
could
be
easier
to
fill
seats.
As
a
reminder,
we've
been
having
some
issues
trying
to
fill
all
nine
seats
currently
and
another
benefit
is
that
there's
potential
to
expand
the
design
expertise
as
well
as
the
diversity
of
that
committee,
by
having
additional
at-large
members
being
appointed
to
that
committee
by
council
next
slide.
M
Please
so
just
a
recap
of
some
of
the
key
takeaways
again
staff
feels
that
the
regulations
are
currently
working
as
intended
that
there
are
several
text,
amendments
that
are
needed
for
clarification
purposes,
that
the
design
review
committee
membership
should
or
could
be
adjusted,
and
that
staff
is
engaging
the
community
on
public
benefits
next
slide.
Please.
M
D
L
Thank
you
to
staff
for
the
work
that
they
have
done
and
the
ability
to
just
continue
to
monitor
these
standards,
and
I
think
we
want
to
to
really
begin
to
when
we
have
these
new
standards
adopted
to
make
this
kind
of
the
rule
of
bringing
you
all
that
information
about
how
your
policies
and
regulations
that
you
all
have
adopted
in
past.
L
The
impact
that
they're
having
on
the
community
and
whether
we
need
adjustments
not
to
wait
five
years
and
and
come
back
and
unfortunately
have
some
unintended
consequences.
So
thank
you.
Todd
for
your
staff's.
Welcome,
yes
and
I'll
turn
it
over
to
you.
Mayor.
L
C
C
M
That
figure,
councilmember
rony,
does
not
include
the
four-point
sheridan
project.
This
would
be
for
the
four
other
projects
that
would
meet
the
public
benefit
standard.
C
M
M
M
I
believe
only
one
project
of
those
four
has
mentioned
that
they
would
like
to
contribute
toward
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund
and
that's
the
44
collier
avenue
project.
M
The
three
other
projects
have
not
committed
yet
to
us
or
clarified
which
fund
they
would
help
contribute
to.
H
Thank
you
todd.
This
is
stage
you
know
just
to
explore
a
little
bit
on
that.
I
I'm
a
little
concerned
about
the
process
by
which
these
contributions
or
the
funds
are
chosen,
and
I'm
not
clear
from
after
what
happened
at
the
last
hearing.
You
know
if
staff
is
deciding
if
the
applicant
is
deciding
if
council
is
deciding
where
the
money
is
landing.
M
There
are
currently
two
what
I
call
process
improvements
that
we're
looking
on
in
terms
of
kind
of
getting
more
information
from
the
applicant
as
to
which
public
benefits
they
would
like
to
select
and
how
they're
chosen.
M
The
first
is
that
we're
working
on
an
electronic
application
where
the
applicant
would
have
to
tell
us
up
front
when
they
submit
their
application,
at
least
conceptually,
which
public
benefits
they
they're
opting
to
choose.
Currently
we
don't
have
a
process
in
place
for
for
that
to
happen.
You
know
at
the
beginning
of
the
application
process.
M
M
So
that's
kind
of
our
threshold
right
now
an
applicant
could
hypothetically,
could
change
or
change
their
mind
during
the
application
process
as
to
which
public
benefits
they
they
choose,
but
we
would
like
to
try
to
outline
all
those
up
front
at
the
beginning
in
the
application
process,
the
other
process
improvement
we've
been
having
a
lot
of
conversations
over
the
last
couple
months
with
community
members.
M
One
group,
the
legacy
neighborhoods
coalition
that
we've
been
meeting
with,
has
provided
us
a
lot
of
comments
on
the
public
benefits
table
and
one
improvement
that
we
could
make
is
that
for
these
projects,
there's
a
required
developer,
neighborhood
meeting
that
has
to
occur
at
the
beginning
of
the
project
and
we're
working
on
currently
internally
in
the
city,
sort
of
a
manual
or
guidelines
for
kind
of
clarifying
and
providing
more
information
for
how
those
meetings
should
occur
and
what
type
of
information
should
be
presented
and
discussed
with
the
community.
M
We
think,
as
part
of
that,
that
guideline
process
for
those
neighborhood
developer
meetings
that
we
can
include
in
there
that
the
developer
should
also
discuss
what
public
benefits
they
might
intend
on,
including
as
part
of
their
project,
to
get
feedback
from
those
neighbors.
That
would
be
impacted
by
the
project
and
also
give
give
an
opportunity
to
the
neighborhood
to
weigh
in
on.
Maybe
what
some
of
their
needs
are
in
the
community.
G
G
I
just
think
sometimes
if
the
developer
doesn't
have
a
strong
opinion,
one
way
or
the
other,
it
may
feel
very
political
for
them
to
make
that
decision
and
like
I'd
rather
council
make
that
decision
again
if
they
don't,
if
the
developer
doesn't
feel
strongly
one
way
about
it,
it's
just
one
thing
I
I
would
ask
staff
to
consider.
A
A
Note,
I
wonder:
if
is
there
any?
A
Is
there
any
legal
reason
and
I'm
not?
This
may
need
to
be
reflected
on,
but
I'm
just
thinking
you
know
if
it's
an
affordable
housing
trust
fund
donation
is
probably
tax
deductible,
but
if
it's
designated
for
some
other
purpose
or
eventually
used
for
some
other
purpose,
maybe
it's
not
tax
deductible,
I'm
just
throwing
this
out
there.
Maybe
there's
some
logistical
reason
why
it
has
to
be
determined
on
the
front
end
and
can't
just
you
know,
developers
can't
just
say:
look.
You
know,
council,
you
decide
later
at
some
later
date.
A
But
I
would
agree
with
gwen
if
there's
not
a
barrier
to
doing
it,
to
you
know
some
tax
reason
or
something
else
I
mean,
I
think
we
are
going
to
run
into
developers
that
don't
care
to
designate
and
would
rather
counsel
future
councils
make
that
determination
as
spending
you
know,
as
opportunities
come.
A
A
I
could
see
why
staff
might
not
be
able
to
to
be
the
deciding
body.
H
M
Our
part
of
our
next
steps
would
be
that
staff
would
actually
come
before
council
first
before
our
next
one
year,
update
we'd
like
to
move
forward
with
some
of
the
some
of
the
observations
of
the
text,
amendments
that
we
would
make
to
the
udo
and
come
to
council
early
next
year
to
present
the
details
of
those
changes.
M
And
then
that
would
be
followed
by
the
one
year
update
where
we
can
hopefully
get
a
a
better
picture
of.
You
know
how
many
hotel
projects
have
been
submitted
and
what
types
of
public
benefits
that
they're
providing
as
well
as
provide
some
additional
feedback
on
what
we've
heard
from
the
community
on
the
public
benefits.
Incentivized
system.
L
L
Saying
we're
doing
both
then
we're
going
to
bring
back
proposed
text
amendments
as
well
as
provide
you
with
an
update
of
additional
potential
changes,
especially
to
public
benefits.
Yes,
in
six.
A
I
have
that
concern
as
well.
I
you
know,
I
know
that
drafting
these
changes
is
really
challenging,
but
if
there's
any
way
to
to
to
address
the
that
condo
motel
concept,
you
know
first,
since
that
seems
to
be
sort
of
an
emergency.
That
would
be
great.
M
We
we
could
definitely
work
on
these
other
more.
You
know
prior
bigger
priority
text
amendments
and
do
that
in
a
more
expedited
manner.
M
M
But
if
you
have
any
comments
or
any
feedback
you'd
like
to
provide
now
I'm
happy
to
take
that
back
to
my
staff.
L
Hey
councilmember
ronnie.
We
I
think
we're
only
suggesting
that
it's
because
we've
got
in
our
timeline
to
talk
to
those
two
groups
before
we
finalize
any
next
steps
on
that
issue.
Thank
you.
Absolutely.
H
If
I
may
share
to
councilwoman
rooney
as
the
liaison
to
both
of
the
riverfront
and
the
downtown
commission,
we
have
meetings
recently
and
discussed
it
and
we're
generally
on
board
with
that
idea.
A
D
A
K
A
And
councilwoman
mosley
aye.
Okay!
Thank
you
all
right.
Next
public
hearing
item
b,
we
have
a
public
hearing
to
consider
conditional
zoning
request
for
200
villas
court
from
rm8
residential
multi-family
medium
density
district
to
residential
expansion.
Conditional
zone
also
included
in
the
project,
are
16
existing
townhomes
located
on
villa
villa's
court
and
we'll
have
planner,
shannon
tuck
here
to
present
this
item.
O
So,
as
the
mayor
indicated,
this
property
is
a
conditional
zoning
request
for
approximately
5.3
acres
and
located
in
the
sort
of
northwest
portion
of
the
city.
So
this
is
way
out
on
the
edge
of
the
city's
jurisdiction,
and
you
can
see
from
these
exhibit
maps
that
it's
essentially
a
peninsula
of
city,
zoning,
that
kind
of
sticks
out
into
the
to
the
county's
jurisdiction.
O
O
O
The
request
is
to
rezone
this
property
from
rm8
to
residential
expansion
conditional
zone,
and
that
is
to
allow
for
a
multi-family
development
that
has
over
50
units.
It's
a
72
unit
development
and
this
is
classified
as
a
level
three
which
requires
a
conditional
zoning
to
one
of
the
city's
expansion
districts
and
because
it's
a
residential
project,
it's
the
residential
expansion
district
that
is
being
proposed.
O
So,
as
the
mayor
introduced
this
project,
she
write
off
a
number
of
addresses.
That
is
because,
back
in
2005,
there
was
a
level
two
plan
to
develop
this
property
as
a
town,
home
community
and
steps
were
taken
to
go
ahead
and
initiate
that
project
and
in
fact,
10
of
the
units
were
constructed
and
platted
and
sold.
There
are
another
six
lots
that
were
platted
but
not
developed,
so
the
cluster
of
four
sublots
that
you
see
to
the
north.
O
That
is
one
of
the
existing
clusters
of
townhomes
and
then
that
larger
cluster
in
the
center
of
the
property.
That's
the
second
cluster,
the
six
lots
below
the
top
cluster
are.
They
were,
as
I
mentioned,
they
were
planted,
but
not
developed
and
those
properties
are
owned
by
the
applicant
and
will
be
recombined
into
the
larger
parcel
as
part
of
this
development
next
slide,
please.
O
So
we
always
review
the
city's
future
land
use
map
to
make
sure
that
any
changes
are
consistent
or
if
a
change
to
the
land
use
map
might
be
necessary,
so
this
property,
as
well
as
the
parcels
to
the
south,
our
designated
residential
neighborhood.
This
is
a
low
density,
residential
designation
in
the
comprehensive
plan.
However,
even
though
it
is
low
density,
it
does
allow
for
some
infill
multifamily
or
to
allow
for
transition
to
higher
density
as
the
city
sort
of
builds
out,
and
this
project
is
a
little
bit
of
a
hybrid.
O
It
has
some
single
family,
those
existing
town,
homes
that
were
originally
constructed
in
2005,
and
it
will
have
some
new
multi-family
that
will
be
built
in
and
around
those
existing
units.
So
we
do
feel
that
it
is
consistent
with
that
designation.
So,
as
a
result,
no
change
to
the
future
land
use
map
will
be
required
next
slide,
please.
O
O
However,
after
some
of
the
units
were
constructed,
we
entered
the
great
recession,
all
construction
stopped
and
the
project
has
been
just
sort
of
languishing
ever
since
the
applicant
now
would
like
to
complete
the
project
and
kind
of
fill
in
around
where
development
had
been
anticipated.
As
part
of
that
original
plan,
it
has
evolved
some
to
include
more
units
than
originally
proposed
and
is
now
switching
to
offer
some
multi-family
apartment
units,
as
opposed
to
the
single-family
townhome
units,
their
the
applicant,
also
in
2005.
O
In
addition
to
building
those
10
units
had
also
started
the
infrastructure
and
completed
quite
a
bit
of
the
infrastructure,
including
the
surface
parking
that
you
see
in
the
aerial
imagery,
as
well
as
the
sewer
and
water
and
storm
water.
As
a
result
of
this
project
and
some
new
standards
for
that
infrastructure,
much
of
that
infrastructure
will
have
to
be
reconstructed,
and
that
is
not
all
of
it,
but
much
of
it.
O
I
also
wanted
to
point
out
in
the
sort
of
southeast
corner
there
in
that
lower
right
hand
corner
you
see
a
little
bit
of
impervious
surface
that
there's
a
pump
station,
a
sewer
pump
station
there.
I
wanted
to
point
that
out
because
the
southern
boundary
of
this
parcel
is
a
tributary
to
smith
mill,
creek,
and
so
that
is
a
jurisdictional
water.
We
do
have
a
30-foot
protected
aquatic
buffer
along
that,
but
that
is
an
existing
encroachment
that
the
applicant
is
asking
to
just
kind
of
leave,
as
is
next
slide
please.
O
So
this
is
the
site
plan
for
the
proposed
development.
You
can
see
that
the
entrance
into
the
properties
or
the
entrances
into
the
property
remain
the
same
with
access
on
the
north
end
from
cedar
hill
road
and
then
on
the
west
side
from
pisgah
view
road.
So
this
is
a
full
access
on
both
directions
on
both
entrances.
So
you
have
access
on
either
end
into
the
community.
O
Mill
creek
with
that
protected
aquatic
buffer,
not
necessarily
part
of
the
site,
span
site
plan
specifically,
but
this
project
is
also
committing
that
10
of
the
units
will
be
indeed
restricted
to
be
affordable
to
those
earning
80
percent
of
ami
for
a
minimum
period
of
20
years,
and
this
is
reflected
in
the
project
conditions
for
this
conditional
zoning
next
slide.
Please,
there
are
some
very
basic
building,
elevations
included
in
your
meeting
materials.
To
kind
of
give
you
a
sense.
It's
it's.
O
A
relatively
sort
of
standard,
multi-family,
moderately
sized
multi-family
building,
as
I
mentioned
four
units
per
floor,
two
floors-
is-
is
the
first
building
type
next
slide
and
then
there's
the
three-story
12
unit
building
type.
That
adds
that
additional
floor
next
slide.
Please.
O
The
applicant
has
also
provided
a
number
of
graphic
renderings.
You
can
see
this
this
first
one
provides
an
overview
of
the
property.
The
the
north
end
is
the
cedar
hill
road,
and
so,
as
you
enter
the
property,
you
have
those
two-story
eight
unit
buildings.
You
pass
some
of
that
existing
those
existing
town
homes
coming
into
the
center
of
the
property.
You
see
more
of
the
existing
townhomes
and
then
on
the
sort
of
southern
or
western
side.
O
You
have
the
four
three-story
units
and
you
have
the
you
have
sort
of
a
wooded
edge,
including
that
creek
on
the
southern
end
of
the
property
next
slide.
O
O
O
The
project
was
unanimously
approved
at
that
meeting
with,
I
believe,
only
one
comment
from
a
member
of
the
public
next
slide.
O
All
of
our
conditional
zonings
come
with
a
list
of
project
conditions.
That's
exhibit
e
included
in
your
meeting
materials.
We
always
try
to
identify
the
different
development
standards
that
might
need
modification
in
this
case,
two
of
the
three
modifications
a
deal
with
existing
infrastructure.
So
that's
the
driveway
and
the
encroachment
into
the
aquatic
buffer.
That's
due
to
the
work
that
had
already
been
performed
from
that
2005
master
plan.
O
Residential
expansion
requires
10
foot
wide
sidewalks
throughout
the
development
and
given
the
context
of
this
particular
development,
the
applicant
is
requesting
a
six
foot
wide
sidewalk
along
the
frontage
on
cedar
hill,
road
and
piscoview
road
with,
and
that
also
includes
a
five-foot
buffer.
So
the
sidewalk
would
be
set
back
from
the
road
to
make
it
a
more
comfortable
environment
and
then
that
would
transition
to
a
five-foot
sidewalk
around
the
parking
areas
in
between
the
buildings.
O
Beyond
the
technical
modifications,
the
rest
of
the
conditions
typically
just
describe
the
project
or
the
features
of
the
project.
So
specifically,
this
is
a
multi-family
residential
infill
project
that
completes
a
previously
abandoned
master
plan.
72
units
10
of
those
units
will
be
deed,
restricted
to
be
affordable.
Based
on
the
city
standards,
we
do
have
sidewalk
connections
throughout
the
development
open
space
tree
canopy
preservation,
landscaping
the
basic
site
improvements
next
slide,
please,
in
conclusion,
staff
does
concur
with
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
and
recommends
approval
of
this
conditional
zoning
request.
A
H
I
do
shannon.
Thank
you
for
the
presentation.
Can
you
speak
to
the
buffer?
I
noticed
a
couple
things
that
were
just
considered
cons.
The
only
one
that
really
alarmed
me
was
the
5400
square
feet
of
aquatic
buffer
and
there
just
wasn't
an
alternative
around
that
or
is
there
anything
more
you
can
tell
us
about
it.
O
Yeah
that
encroachment
is
due
to
that
existing
infrastructure.
So
there
is
a
pump
station
in
that
southeast
corner
of
the
property
that
I
pointed
out
on
that
aerial
image.
That
is
that's
the
bulk
of
that
encroachment
and
then
any
additional.
I'm
not
sure
there
may
be
just
a
little
bit
more
that
as
a
result
of
the
having
to
reconstruct
some
of
that
infrastructure,
but
essentially
they
won't
be
adding
to
the
encroachment
it's
really
just
what's
already
there.
A
H
A
A
H
Hello,
thank
you
for
being
here
to
answer
a
couple
questions
I
was
just
wondering
specifically
to
the
10
of
the
units
being
affordable.
If
any
of
them
are
accepting
vouchers,
I
hope
that's
not
really
an
engineering
question.
P
At
this
time,
it's
too
early
to
really
know
that
for
sure,
but
we'll
be
working
with
paul
d'angelo
on
this
stuff
move
forward,
we'll
be
working
hand-in-hand
with
you
know.
I
really
feel
certain
in
the
fact
that
really
the
72
units
will
mostly
hit
that
mark
which
we're
really
excited
about.
You
know
we
plan
right
now
to
sell
the
units
as
condos.
P
There's
not
much,
as
we
all
know,
on
the
market
in
and
around
asheville,
that's
even
close
to
to
being
considered
something
could
be
workforce,
housing.
H
H
I'm
floored
by
that.
That's
incredible!
Thank
you
for
sharing
that
and
if
I
may
just
share
that,
there's
an
organization
known
as
thrive
that
links
up
voucher
holders
that
have
been
waiting
and
preparing
for
the
mortgage
payment
part
and
doing
the
training
and
stuff
and
maybe
that's
a
connection
you
could
make
to
connect
with
some
buyers.
H
P
K
H
P
P
Well,
that's
one
of
the
reasons
we're
asking
for,
of
course,
the
addition
shannon
thank
you
for
your
presentation
was
great.
That's
really
why
I
didn't
really
interject
much
because
she
really
covered
most
of
the
points.
You
know.
One
of
the
reasons
we're
asking
for
the
additional
units
is
one
because
we
feel
like
it's
a
great
urban
infill
area
right
there,
and
then
we
also
you
know
in
order
to
to
upgrade
the
project,
to
abide
by
all
the
current
udo
standards.
P
You
know
it's
just
gonna
require
quite
a
bit
more
construction
to
be
able
to
offer
the
product
and
the
affordability
that
we
want.
We,
we
need
those
extra
units
to
help
pull
it
along.
K
Well,
thank
you
very
much.
I
I
and
I
and
the
reason
I
say
that
is
pretty
much
anything
that
you
sell,
whether
you
know
condos
whatever
under
200
000,
I
could
tell
you
you've
got
hundreds
of
buyers
out
here
right
now
that
would
you
know
swoop
them
up,
because
it's
not
there,
it's
not
there
and
it's
important,
I'm
so
happy
to
see
a
developer
actually
building
something
in
that
range
and
usually
when
they
come
before
council.
You
know
no
one
really
talks
about
the
price
they're
going
to
be.
K
You
know,
because
they
know
that
it's
not
going
to
be.
You
know
affordable,
but
yours
are,
and
I
greatly
appreciate
it.
C
This
is
kim,
I
have
a
question,
that's
more
for
staff,
so
we're
making
some.
I
guess
concessions
around
the
sidewalk
width
and
we
have
a
number
of
ada
compliance
issues
in
the
city.
So
how
will
we
be
ensuring
that
we
don't
exacerbate
our
ada
compliance
issues
while
we're
making
exemptions
for
sidewalks.
O
So
the
compliance
with
accessibility
standards
will
be
part
of
the
technical
review,
the
final
step
of
the
review
process
for
this
project.
So
that's
when
we
will
look
at
some
of
those
really
detailed
elevations
of
the
sidewalk
and
things
of
that
nature.
O
Even
the
even
the
conceptual
technical
review,
however,
looks
for
any
red
flags
related
to
technical
compliance
like
if
we
know
there
are
really
steep
slopes
and
they're
showing
a
sidewalk
we'll
we'll
check
it
at
that
stage.
We
do
not
anticipate
any
accessibility
issues
with
the
sidewalk.
It's
just
a
width.
The
the
minimum
width
for
accessibility
purposes
of
the
sidewalk
is,
I
I
think
it
can
range
from
36
to
48
inches
depending
on
the
context-
and
you
know
this
sidewalks
can
be
60
or
6
feet.
So
well
more.
O
C
Well,
I
am
glad
for
the
affordable
units,
even
if
they
are
only
at
80
of
ami
and
not
yet
accepting
vouchers
for
sure,
because
it
is
four
tenths
of
a
mile
from
the
bus
stop
and
20
minutes
from
the
grocery
store.
So
I
appreciate
having
some
options
near
transit.
P
H
P
Well,
with
the
current
open
space
and
tree
save
area,
all
right,
that's
what's
taking
up
that
area,
we
also
have
a
neighbor.
That's
there
that
that
we
do
know-
and
you
know
we
we
want
to
try
to
protect
him
in
his
house
as
as
best
possible.
P
He
does
have
a
septic
system
that
will
be
connected
in
the
future,
to
our
public
gravity
sewer
system,
but
still
with
him
in
mind,
we're
going
to
keep
that
as
a
tree,
save
in
open
space
area.
N
I'm
just
trying
to
be
extra
polite,
so
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
draw.
N
Yeah
so
my
name
is
tikkun
gotcha.
I
am
an
attorney
here
in
asheville
and
I
represent
the
the
applicant
here
and
I'm
actually
quite
familiar
with
this
project
over
many
years
of
work
and
was
going
to
chime
in
on,
on
a
few
of
the
points
raised
a
minute
ago
to
just
draw
the
bigger
picture
and
I'll.
Let
everyone
know
this
is
really
what's
before.
N
You
is
really,
I
think,
a
great
example
of
a
developer
making
lemonade
out
of
lemons,
the
lemons
being
the
of
a
project
that
got
interrupted
by
the
the
failing
economy
in
you
know,
07.08
and
now
there's
since
then,
all
of
the
development
approvals
have
expired,
which
in
a
way
ends
up
being
a
good
thing,
because
it
ends
up
back
in
front
of
the
council,
as
it
is
now
at
an
even
better
project
at
far
more
units
that
are
really
you
know
it
could.
N
It
could
have
been
this
to
begin
with
and
probably
should
have
been
at
this
level
of
development,
given
the
needs
of
the
city
population
for
more
affordable
units
and
I'm
using
affordable-
and
you
know
small
a
you
know
not
not
the
the
technical,
affordable
housing,
so
I
would
just
you
know,
draw
that
bigger
picture
for
for
the
group
so
that
everyone
can
kind
of
see
that
I
mean
this
is
15
years
in
the
making
it's
finally
coming
to
fruition.
N
It's
helping
this
neighborhood
because
you've
got
these
sort
of.
You
know,
lonely.
If
you
will
existing
units
that
have
had
a
you
know:
incomplete
infrastructure
surrounding
them,
and
this
you
know
this
is
going
to
make
it
a
real
neighborhood
and
you
know
provide
some
some
much
needed
housing.
So
that's!
Those
are
the
points
I
want
to
make
thanks
for
the
time.
N
I
A
D
G
A
Councilwoman
roney
aye
all
right.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
folks
for
joining
us
on
that
item.
Our
last
public
hearing
is
item
c
and
here
again
we
need
a
motion
to
continue
this
matter
until
september.
28
2021.
I
A
K
A
A
The
first
item
of
new
business
is
a
resolution
authorizing
the
city
manager
to
create
a
program
of
work
for
the
american
rescue
plan,
act,
state
and
local
government
fiscal
recovery;
funds
to
fund
the
following
categories:
affordable
housing,
care
for
aging
residents,
city
infrastructure,
community
communications,
domestic
violence,
prevention
and
assistance,
food
systems,
homelessness,
services,
revenue
losses,
small
business
recovery
and
workforce
development
and
city
manager.
Deborah
campbell
will
introduce
this
item.
L
Yes,
thank
you
mayor.
I
will
only
say
that
you
all
have
had
a
number
of
work
sessions
around
this
subject
matter.
We've
tried
to
provide
you
with
obviously
the
kind
of
the
scope
of
the
the
the
program
and
the
funding
criteria,
but
we
have
patricia
rosenberg
who's
going
to
provide
you
with
just
a
really
really
brief
overview
and
we'll
hear
from
you
all
once
she
provides
this
the
subject.
Q
Thank
you
good
evening,
everyone,
and,
as
ms
campbell
mentioned,
we
have
had
two
councilwork
sessions
in
july
and
august.
What
we've
spent
most
of
this
time
at
the
work
sessions
and
really
the
work
the
staff
has
done,
has
really
been
focused
on
identifying
categories
to
be
funded
using
these
funds,
the
idea
being
that,
in
the
the
guidance
that
the
us
treasury
department
released,
there
are
there's
a
long
list
of
eligible
uses
for
these
funds,
we're
trying
to
narrow
that
scope
before
we
take
it
out
for
a
community
rfp.
Q
So
we
have
the
two
work
sessions
in
july
and
august.
Additionally,
we
have
public
comment
at
our
at
your
last
council
meeting
and
tonight
we're
asking
you
to
vote
on
the
categories
for
funding
and
again
these
are
categories
that
we
recommended
that
we're
recommending
and
they
were
determined
through
a
whole
bunch
of
different
resources.
We
looked
through
public
engagement
data
that
we
have
been
collecting
over
the
past
few
years.
Q
The
rfp
will
be
open
until
november
1st,
while
the
rfp
is
open
for
proposals.
We
plan
to
hold
an
information
session
for
interested
applicants
in
october
and
will
also
plan
to
conduct
extensive
community
outreach
during
that
time
and
then
eventually,
we
will
come
with
staff
recommendations
for
a
final
council
vote
on
awards
in
december.
C
This
is
kim
thank
you
for
that
presentation,
patricia
so
because
we
are
experiencing
overlapping
emergencies,
while
some
of
these
categories
may
have
other
funding
options.
C
I'm
concerned
that
we're
making
a
bet
that
federal
infrastructure
funds
might
get
passed
to
the
state
and
that
they
won't
be
already
absorbed
to
the
state
level,
which
is
why
I'm
appealing
to
my
colleagues
to
consider
our
own
climate
justice
initiative
by
adding
climate
change
to
the
categories
as
part
of
our
council
goals
for
both
an
equitable
recovery
from
the
pandemic
and
reimagining
public
safety,
which
we
identified
in
our
retreat
in
hopes.
That
will
also
help
us
to
meet
our
goals
in
our
living
asheville
comprehensive
plan.
A
Stuff
do
to
you
know.
I
hear
councilwoman
roni's
recommendation.
We
already
have
a
very
long
list
here
and
a
pretty
finite
amount
of
resources
in
this
particular
pot.
I
you
know,
I
don't
have.
I
personally
don't
have
any
concerns
about
adding
another
item.
I
just
wonder
how
realistic
it
is
that
the
funds
will
will
cover
all
these
different
categories,
but
I
I
I
defer
to
staff
to
say
whether
or
not
that
seems
practical
or
not.
L
Well,
as
part
of
the
work
session,
I
think
we
had
just
a
brief
dis
discussion
about
whether
with
the
use
of
this
fund
should
we
focus
and
be
very
strategic
because
again,
we
have
already
made
some
kind
of
tentative
commitments
to
particularly
the
issue
of
homelessness
and
and
a
couple
of
other
things
that
we
have.
We
we
are
either
considering
or
moving
forward
on,
and
yes,
there
is
a
concern.
L
However,
I
don't.
I
don't
think
that
it
will
have
that
negative
impact,
because
we
may
not
get
you
know,
proposals
as
it
relates
to
all
of
these
categories,
so
we'll
we'll
just
you
know,
we'll
just
have
to
have
to
wait
and
see.
If
there
are
concerns
we
can
come
back
and
say
and
we
will
be
coming
back
and
saying
you
know
we're
we're
getting
these
amount
of
requests
in
these
particular
categories.
Do
you
want
us
to
continue
on
and
try
to
solicit
or
not?
L
So
it's
a
long
way
of
saying
mayor.
I
think
it's,
I
think
it's
okay
and
we'll
just
see
how
the
rfps
come
back.
L
Q
No,
actually,
I
think
you
covered
that
really
well,
and
I
agree
with
with
everything
that
you
said.
I
guess
at
this
point
we
should
probably
emphasize
that
we're
trying
to
narrow
the
list
of
categories
from
what
we
identified
originally
in
july,
and
so
at
this
point,
the
categories
that
you
decide
tonight
will
be
issued
through
an
rfp.
Q
A
A
You,
I
think
what
you
were
saying
is
hey.
When
we
started
the
work
session
process,
we
had
many
more
categories:
you're,
not
looking
to
further
whittle
down
the
list.
That's
now
in
the
suggested
motion,
okay,
so
councilwoman
rooney.
One
way
to
do
this
would
just
be
to
add
your
item
to
the
list
in
the
motion,
and
you
know
that
would
be
one
way
to
do.
That
would
be
my
suggestion.
Process
was
unless
anyone
feels
differently.
A
A
Okay,
I'm
gonna
do
a
roll
call
vote,
oh
by
the
way
we
did
public
comment
on
this
at
the
last
meeting.
So
we
we're
not
taking
further
public
comment
this
evening.
So.
C
I
have
a
question.
I
just
want
to
clarify
that
in
the
future.
If
we
are
going
to
be
doing
public
comment,
if
we
could
check
that
in
our
check-ins,
because
I
had
different
information
from
our
check-ins
that
we
would
have
public
comment.
D
A
Oh
well
now
that's
very
confusing,
though,
because
we
did
the
public
comment
on
this
at
a
public
hearing
last
time,
but
double
layered
there
very
good
everybody,
okay,
all
right
so
we'll
my
the
first
person
to
vote
is
me
myself.
I
vice
mayor
smith,
aye
councilwoman,
kilgore,
aye,
councilwoman,
mosley,
aye,
councilwoman,
roni,
aye,
councilwoman,
turner,
hi,
councilwoman,
whistler,.
G
B
A
R
Righty
horse
and
commissions
met
this
morning.
We
made
the
following
recommendations
for
appointment
for
the
african-american
heritage.
Commission.
The
committee
recommends
appointment
of
stephen
blunt.
Is
there
a
second
second
all
right
with
a
motion
in
a
second
I'll?
Do
a
roll
call
vote
for
approval
on
mayor
manheimer,
hi,
councilwoman
mosley?
I
myself,
I
councilwoman
kilgore.
K
K
R
Councilwoman
roni
aye,
councilwoman
turner,
hi,
all
right.
The
motion
carries
so
for
the
board
of
adjustment.
There
was
a
vacancy
for
an
alternate
seat.
There
were
no
applications
received
so
we'll
re-advertise.
R
R
With
emotion,
say:
okay
I'll
do
a
roll
call
vote
for
approval,
councilwoman
mosley,
I
myself,
I
councilwoman
whistler.
G
R
R
K
R
R
G
R
R
We're
gonna
break
this
down
a
bit
for
tda,
we'll
do
a
vote
on
the
two
seats
at
101
plus.
We
interviewed
three
individuals
and
I
almost
feel
like
doing
a
tally
here,
instead
of
doing
a
recommendation.
Maggie
do
you
have
my
back
here?
R
Layman
and
myself
lusik
lehmann
and
it
looks
like
lehman
lusic
rr2,
correct
bingo.
We
did
it.
Okay,
let's
move
on
to
the
seat
for
100
or
less
and
do
I
have
a
motion.
There's
no
need
to
do
a
tally
on
that
one.
Do
I
have
a
motion
for
to
approve
appointments.
K
R
K
E
R
Manheimer
I
mostly
I
and
myself
the
motion
carries
now.
Let's
go
back
to
the
tally
vote
for
umpnz,
we
interviewed,
I
think
we
interviewed
four
individuals
on
this
afternoon,
so
we'll
just
do
a
tally
on
your
top
two
and
we'll
start
with
councilwoman
mosley,
and
if
you
only
have
one
yeah,
I
didn't
really
say
that.
But
you
know.
G
Jeffrey
barton
and
vice
mayor,
I
would
just
ask
that,
rather
than
you
know,
if
somebody
gets
more
votes
that
I
I
would
add,
the
motion
that
we
re-advertise
for
the
second
position:
okay,
kurt.
R
K
R
A
So
we
can
re-advertise
and
then
also
there
were
two
people
that
weren't
able
to
show
up
today
to
the
interview.
So
maybe
we
can
capture
them
in
the
second
round
as
well
sure
I
came
okay
and
roosevelt
harvin
was
the
other
person.
A
R
Okay,
so
jeffrey
barton
is
the
appointed
person
for
pnz
and
we'll
re-advertise
to
fill
the
second
seat,
and
that's
all
I
have.
A
Thank
you,
okay.
This
brings
us
to
the
informal
discussion
of
public
comment
portion
of
our
agenda
and
I'll
read
the
instructions
staff
will
now
connect
live
calls
from
our
speaker
cube
for
informal
discussion
and
public
comment.
Again,
we
are
only
taking
callers
who
signed
up
in
advance
callers.
You
will
first
hear
staff
inform
counsel
that
you're
next
to
speak.
A
A
And
meeting
code
press
star
3
to
rejoin
the
speaker,
queue
you'll
have
three
minutes
to
comment
and
at
the
end
of
the
three
minutes
you
will
hear
a
bell
and
staff
will
ask
you
to
wrap
up
your
comment
and
we
have
five
folks
at
least
signed
up
to
speak.
So
staff
will
turn
it
over
you
to
bring
on
our
callers.
E
The
city
of
kingsport
and
putting
together
a
proclamation
to
observe
international
day
of
peace
that
will
be
a
week
from
today
and
we'll
have
an
observation
at
on
on
june
this
year,
and
I
invite
you
all
to
join
us,
but
one
part
of
the
proclamation
that
we
gave
the
city
was
left
out,
and
I
want
to
read
that
if
I
have
time,
whereas
in
this
moment
of
escalating
climate
change
and
the
covet
pandemic,
we
lament
that
there
have
been
political
and
economic
actions
taken
by
our
elected
representatives
that
threaten
the
health
and
well-being
of
the
people
of
the
environment
and
of
our
democratic
process.
E
We
believe
that
is
not
the
best
interest
of
our
community
to
align
with
industries
with
a
record
of
environmental
harm
that
choose
profit
over
life.
Again,
I
say
that
this
is
our
12th
year
working
with
the
city.
We
had
28
signers
to
our
proclamation
and
all
of
our
signers
wanted.
This
verse
in
the
proclamation,
so
just
let
me
express
my
displeasure
that
it
was
left
out.
Thank
you.
F
Hey
everybody,
it's
jonathan
wayne,
scott
again,
I
just
wanted
to
call
and
thank
councilwoman
mosley
for
her
comments.
Last
meeting
during
the
informal
comments
and
discussion
bringing
a
little
discussion
to
it.
Usually
it's
a
little
one-way
with
people
just
saying
what
they
got
to
say
and
not
hearing
much
back
from
council.
N
F
There
was
also
the
element
of
some
frustration
with
you
know:
hearing
white
people
coming
to
council
talking
about
black
problems
and
not
really
having
the
right
information,
and
you
know
here
I
am
a
white
guy
calling
about
the
reparations
and
whatnot.
F
I
wish
you'd
been
on
council
in
2019,
along
with
vijay
kapoor,
because
the
conversation
again
that
we
had
regarding
our
charter
change
and
renewing
our
at
large
election
system
could
have
used
a
little
bit
more
critical
thinking
a
little
bit
more.
You
know
feedback
on
all
that,
as
it
turns
out.
You
know
that
whole
conversation
was
held
by
a
lot
of
white
people,
bringing
a
lot
of
bad
information
to
city
council
about
the
difference
between
at-large
elections
and
district
elections.
F
There
was
a
white
woman
from
swannanoa.
Doesn't
even
live
here.
Didn't
live
here
then
doesn't
live
here
now
who
came
and
said
that
you
know
the
black
population
or
the
voting
population
was
only
three
percent,
and
that
wasn't
true.
She
said
that
the
north
carolina
general
assembly
that
liberated
us
from
our
at-large
election
system
was
the
most
racist
general
assembly
in
the
united
states
and
and
that
included
eight
black
senators
that
voted
to
bring
district
elections
to
asheville.
F
So
it
was
an
incredibly
frustrating
process,
but
you
know
we'll
revisit
it,
and
you
know
just
called
in
to
talk
about
that.
A
little
bit
looks
like
it's
going
to
be
a
short
night.
I
don't
know
if
anybody
wants
to
get
together
after
this
go
out
through
some
wings
and
some
snacks,
if
you
want
to,
but
anyway
have
a
great
night.
Everybody
thanks.
S
Asheville,
I'm
a
black
woman
living
here
in
south
asheville
and
I
first
just
want
to
say
how
excited
and
proud
I
am
that
we
have
three
women
of
color
councilwoman,
sandra
kilgore,
councilwoman,
antoinette
mosley
and
vice
mayor
shanika
smith,
on
the
board.
I
know
that
you
all
are
working
hard
and
doing
great
things
along
with
all
the
other
council
members
who
are
working
hard
to
make
change.
S
However,
I'm
on
tonight
to
speak
to
the
entire
council
city,
council
and
other
entities
in
asheville
to
encourage
to
push
beyond
you
know
just
acceptance
and
inclusion,
but
actually
listening
to
and
following
the
suggestions
and
plans
that
are
made
by
the
black
women
who
are
serving
on
the
council
and
because
they
know
and
speak
to
and
understand,
what's
needed
within
the
black
community.
S
Specifically
speaking
to
the
july
22nd
council,
meeting
councilwoman
mosley
shared
some
alarming
statistics
about
the
plight
of
black
women
and
our
safety
here
in
asheville,
and
it
was
regarding
suspending
the
hiring
of
new
police,
and
I
agree
with
a
lot
of
what
she
stated
and
what
she
shared,
and
I
don't
agree
with
the
idea
of
defunding
the
police.
What
I
do
like
to
see
what
many
of
us
in
the
black
community
would
like
to
see
is
true
police
reform.
We
want
that
to
be
better
training.
S
We
want
to
see
more
programs
and
collaborations
with
different
groups
of
color
and
different
intersections,
so
that
we
can
address
the
issues
and
resolve
the
issues
of
socialize
and
learn
implicit
bias
and
racial
fear
that
continue
to
unnecessarily
take
the
lives
of
black
and
brown
people.
We
know
this
is
a
process.
We
know
it
cannot
happen
overnight,
but
when
issues
arise
within
the
black
community,
we
really
need
to
turn
to
the
black
community.
Talk
to
us
find
out
what
we
need
and
what
we're
looking
for.
I
understand
that
sometimes
seemingly
well-intentioned
progressive
bike.
S
And
so
I
thank
you
for
the
fight
that
you
are
putting
forward
and
are
putting
forth,
but
really
want
to
just
encourage
you
and
push
and
ask
for
you
to
listen
and
to
hear
black
voices
and
brown
voices
and
let
us
stand
in
front
and
fight
for
what
we
need.
S
T
Good
evening
city,
council,
mayor
and
members,
my
name
is
nina
tovish.
I
live
in
shiloh.
First
I'd
like
to
thank
the
council
and
city
staff
for
the
ongoing
implementation
of
the
tax
grant
program.
I'm
happy
to
say
that
I
personally
have
been
able
to
apply
and
receive
a
tax
grant,
and
I'm
deeply
grateful
for
that.
T
My
comment
with
respect
to
the
process
of
the
tax
grant
is
the
following:
I'm
hoping
that
city
staff
has
in
place
a
robust
system
of
tracking
these
grants
so
that
as
citizens,
we
can
understand
where
the
funds
were
actually
deployed.
T
T
I
imagine,
and
I
I
hope
that
the
city
has
already
got
plans
to
do
such
a
follow-up
report,
but
I
think
when
we
try
something
interesting
and
innovative
like
this,
that
it's
really
important,
that
we
look
at
all
the
metrics
associated
with
it,
so
that
we
can
understand
the
impact
and
it's
a
way
of
tracking
where
the
money
went,
who
received
the
benefit
of
it
and
how,
if
such
a
program
would
could
be
offered
again
in
the
future.
T
The
city
can
be
assured
that
the
money
went
where
it
was
most
needed
once
again,
I'm
thrilled
that
this
process
is
underway.
It's
not
exactly
the
way.
I
hoped
it
would
be
done
with
a
more
reparations
oriented
bent
to
it,
but
I'm
nonetheless
grateful-
and
I
know
that
there
are
many
citizens
who
will
feel
the
same
way.
A
A
Five
people
signed
up
to
speak,
but
I
guess
we
only
had
four
call
in
so
that's,
okay,
we
do
have
a
closed
session
this
evening,
so
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
councilwoman
rony,
to
read
the
closed
session
motion
and
then
we'll
need
to
log
out
and
log
back
into
the
closed
session
link.
C
I
move
that
the
asheville
city
council
go
into
closed
session
for
the
following
reasons:
one
to
prevent
disclosure
of
information
that
is
privileged
and
confidential
pursuant
to
the
laws
of
north
carolina
or
not
considered
a
public
record
within
the
meaning
of
chapter
132
of
the
general
statutes.
The
statutory
authorization
is
contained
in
nc
general
statute,
143-318.11
a1.
The
laws
that
make
the
information
privileged
and
confidential
are
north
carolina
general
statute,
143-318-10e.
C
And
north
carolina
general
statute,
168-168
and
2
to
consult
with
an
attorney
employed
by
the
city
about
matters
with
respect
to
the
attorney-client
privilege
between
the
city
and
its
attorney
must
be
preserved,
including,
but
not
limited
to
the
handling
of
the
following
matters:
city
of
asheville
versus
mark
byrd
and
joy,
ponder
versus
city
of
asheville.
The
statutory
authorization
is
contained
in
the
nc
general
statute,
143-318-11
a-3.
G
A
Okay-
and
I
guess
we'll
do
a
roll
call
vote,
councilman,
rony,
hi,
councilwoman,
turner,
hi,.