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September 10, 2019
Asheville City Council Meeting
A
And
we
we
do
have
an
overflow
room
on
the
sixth
floor.
I,
don't
know
if
anybody
is
up
there,
I
don't
think
they
are
yet
our
first
floor,
overflow,
no
I'm
getting
nobody's
up
there.
Okay,
our
first
floor
overflow
room
has
an
audio
problem
right
now,
so
no
one
should
be
there
all
right.
We
have
one
proclamation
for
this
evening
and
that
is
National
Suicide,
Prevention,
Week
and
Nicole
record
is
here
and
if
you
have
anyone
else
with,
you
feel
free
to
bring
the
board.
A
Whereas
suicide
is
the
tenth
leading
cause
of
death
in
the
United
States
and
the
second
leading
cause
of
death
among
individuals
between
the
ages
of
15
to
34
and
whereas,
according
to
the
Centers
for
Disease
Control,
over
45,000
people
die
by
suicide
in
the
United
States
each
year
and
whereas
it
is
estimated
that
in
2018
there
were
over
1.4
million
suicide
attempts.
Whereas
a
2018
suicide
was
the
11th
leading
cause
of
death
in
North
Carolina
where's
over
90
percent
of
the
people
who
die
by
suicide
have
a
diagnosable
and
treatable
mental
health
condition.
A
Although
often
that
condition
is
not
recognized
or
treated,
and
whereas
organizations
such
as
the
American
Foundation
for
Suicide
Prevention
envision
a
world
without
suicide
and
are
dedicated
to
saving
lives
and
bringing
hope
to
those
affected
by
suicide
through
research,
education,
advocacy
and
resources
for
those
who
have
lost
someone
or
who
personally
struggle,
and
we
urge
that
number
one
recognize
suicide
as
a
preventable
national
and
state
public
health
problem
and
declare
suicide
prevention
to
be
a
priority.
To
acknowledge
that
no
single
suicide
prevention
program
or
effort
will
be
appropriate
for
all
populations
or
communities.
A
3
encourage
initiatives
based
on
the
goals
contained
in
the
national
strategy
for
suicide
prevention,
for
promote
awareness
that
there
is
no
single
cause
for
suicide
and
that
suicide
must
often
occurs
when
stressors
exceed
current
coping
abilities
of
someone
living
with
a
mental
health
condition.
5
develop
and
implement
strategies
to
increase
access
to
quality
mental
health
substance
abuse
and
suicide
prevention
services
therefore
be
resolved.
B
Okay,
okay,
again,
my
name
is
Nicole
Rikard
I'm,
a
city,
employee,
and
so
is
my
husband.
My
husband
was
the
late
Sergeant
John
Rikard.
He
died
by
suicide,
December
9th
2015.
He
used
to
sit
here
and
he
was
the
sergeant
that
was
sit
in
the
back
of
the
room.
He
was
the
sergeant
during
council
meetings,
I
shared
with
this
last
year.
B
B
B
A
D
C
A
C
E
Just
so,
are
there
any
other
questions.
A
F
A
And
while
staff
is
making
their
way
up
here,
I
forgot
to
make
one
announcement
tomorrow.
This
is
just
an
announcement.
Well
in
the
middle
of
this
consent
agenda
tomorrow,
the
city
of
Oshawa
will
hold
a
9/11
remembrance
ceremony
at
8:30
a.m.
so
that's
tomorrow
morning,
September
11th
at
the
City
Municipal
Building,
which
is
the
one
right
right
out
here.
I've
got
my
directions:
correct,
100,
Court
Plaza.
A
This
is
an
event
to
pay
solemn
tribute
to
those
who
heroically
sacrifice
their
own
lives,
to
save
thousands
of
others
and
to
remember
those
who
helped
in
the
rescue
recovery
efforts
that
followed
at
Ground
Zero-
and
this
is
a
ceremony
open
to
the
public.
So
I
just
take
that
moment
to
make
an
announcement
that
I
forgot
to
make
it
very
beginning.
Ken,
there
was
a
question.
Thank
you.
I.
There
was
a
question
about
stormwater
runoff
and
emergency
vehicle
access
connected
to,
in
conjunction
with
the
Charlotte
Street
Road
Diet
project.
Okay,.
G
First
of
all,
my
name
is
Ken
Putnam
I'm
in
the
transportation
department,
director
and
I
can
answer
the
question
about
emergency
access
and
then
I
will
yield
to
Jade.
For
the
second
question,
a
lot
of
research
through
the
Federal
Highway
Administration
has
demonstrated
over
the
years
that
when
you
go
to
a
road
dive
from
four
lanes
down
to
three
lanes
that
most
of
the
time,
emergency
access
is
improved
because
the
center
lane,
which
is
basically
reserved
for
a
lot
of
left-turning
movements
through
the
corridor,
is,
is
available
for
the
emergency
vehicles.
G
C
G
That's
a
very
good
question
and
again
that
that
what
you're
describing
there
happens
are
already
at
many
intersections,
especially
signalized
intersections
as
the
emergency
vehicles
approach
and
a
lot
of
times
what
I've
seen
our
own
fire
crews
have
to
do,
and
even
the
ambulances
do
they'll
actually
get
into
the
opposite
direction,
lanes
to
go
through
the
confines
of
the
intersection,
and
that
seems
to
work
well.
Okay,.
C
H
Good
afternoon
Jade
Dundas
capital
projects
director
with
regard
to
the
stormwater,
given
the
budget
that
we
had
for
this,
which
is
of
around
1.2
million
dollars,
1.25
million
dollars,
we
were
diligence,
tried
to
create
to
build
the
project
and
met
that
budget.
There
are
some
identified
storm
water,
ponding
areas.
H
What
we
are
doing
with
this
project
is
rebuilding
existing
infrastructure.
So
if
there's
a,
if
there's
a
basin
out
there
right
now,
we
are
going
to
rebuild
that
catch
base
and
there
will
be
a
resurfacing
of
the
existing
roadway
and
then
some
sidewalk
improvements,
but
the
budget
limitations
prevented
us
from
going
to
do
it.
A
full-scale
stormwater
improvement.
Right
now
we
have
been
in
communication
with
the
Public
Works
stormwater
division.
They
are
aware
of
this
site.
H
I
H
H
D
A
J
A
K
A
K
We've
come
before
you
this
evening
only
to
request
the
suspension,
not
the
cancellation,
but
the
suspension
of
a
major
city,
road
project
pending
the
undertaking
and
completion
of
a
professional
traffic
engineering
study
by
a
firm
acceptable
to
the
city,
and
if
the
city
and
those
who
are
paying
for
it
cannot
agree,
then
they
can
each
appoint
engineers
and
those
two
engineering
firms
will
select
a
third.
But
the
important
thing
is
that
this
would
all
be
funded,
not
by
the
city
of
Asheville,
what
the
taxpayers
we
would
fund
it.
K
You
save
a
study
that
will
cost
the
city
nothing
and
we
will
get
on
with
it
promptly
and
not
have
it
delayed.
Prior
all
the
prior
studies
paid
for
with
city
taxpayer,
funds
all
were
negative
or
indicated
that
there
are
very
serious
traffic
issues.
Safety
issues
related
to
the
proposed
narrowing
of
Charlotte
Street
north
of
I-240
intersection,
and
into
a
three
lane
from
chestnut
upwards,
for
bicycles
to
bicycle
lanes.
K
Would
like
to
ask
yourself,
oh
by
the
way
mr.
platinum
is
here,
and
we
had
a
very
cordial
good,
professional
meeting
with
him.
He
was
very
attentive
and
he
listened
to
our
concerns,
which
we
expressed
and
I
believe
you
have
a
copy
of
the
letter
which
was
drafted
for
his
signature
and
he
replied
to
to
our
offer,
which
was
a
free
study.
K
Mr.
putnams
letter
to
me
in
which
he
declined,
he
said
the
city
is
declining
I
guess
the
city
staff
is
declining
it
on
is
doing
it
because
of
various
reasons,
but
he
does
not
address
the
stormwater
issue.
So
here's
a
here's,
a
scenario,
a
possible
scenario.
The
city
has
done
a
stormwater
project
study
and
they
plan
to
sue
the
first
beginning
of
it
in
2020,
the
last
page,
on
the
documents
I
just
gave,
you
show
the
stormwater
locations
along
Charlotte
Street.
So
what
are
we
going
to
do?
K
Lay
down
1.25
million
or
the
lesser
amount,
if,
under
the
bid
of
public
funds,
to
pay
the
street
restriping
and
then
a
year
or
two
later,
tear
it
up
again
to
do
sub
structure
infrastructure
work
for
the
stormwater
system?
It
just
doesn't
make
sense
and
what's
the
harm
and
rain
brief
suspension
delay
at
the
opening
of
the
bids,
the
contractor
said
he
cannot
start
the
project
until
February
at
the
earliest
because
of
the
winter
season.
K
If
you
look
at
what
I
handed
to
you,
you
will
see
that
in
the
most
recent
study,
which
was
done
at
city
expense
in
2013
in
August,
the
conclusions
are,
and
I
quote,
most
road
diet
projects
that
initiated
for
a
combination
of
two
reasons,
one
to
mitigate
specific
safety
deficiencies
and
secondly,
as
part
of
a
comprehensive
effort
to
encourage
bicycle
pedestrian,
etc.
With
a
Complete
Streets
conclusion
in
the
case
of
Charlotte
Street,
neither
are
these
conditions
is
definitively
is
definitely
met.
K
There
is
no
clear
problem
identified
for
which
the
proposed
Lane
reduction
provides
an
effective
solution.
It
is
not
part
of
a
comprehensive
plan,
contrary
to
the
letter
that
was
transferred
for
Ken's
signature.
He
said.
Oh,
it's
in
cartons
with
the
city's
complete
plan.
Your
own
study
says
it
doesn't
accord
with
the
complete
plan.
Excuse
me
for
getting
a
little
excited
so
therefore,
it's
a
and
finally
the
conclusion.
Therefore,
it
is
difficult
to
identify
tangible
benefits.
K
Justifying
moving
forward
with
this
project
is
currently
a
dent,
defined
that
your
own
study
telling
you
that
the
project
is
not
viable
as
it
stands
right
now
we're
concerned
about
safety.
As
far
as
the
question
that
councilman
Smith
put
on
safety,
imagine
three
lanes
on
Charlotte
with
the
center
lane
for
the
emergency
barriers.
Well,
it
just
so
happens
that
when
the
emergency
vehicles
are
approaching,
there
happen
to
be
two
cars
in
the
middle
lane,
getting
ready
to
turn
left.
What
is
the
emergency
view?
We're
going
to
do
jump
over
them
fly
over
them?
K
It's
going
to
be
stuck
there
and
there
are
a
lot
of
people
up
in
the
beaver
dam
area.
I'm
we're
very
concerned.
These
are
people
who
are
younger
than
I
am
but
still
old
and
they're
concerned
about
the
emergency
vehicle
access,
which
always
come
very
frequently
come
Charlotte
to
Edwin
Edwin
to
Kimberly,
Kimberly,
Beaver
Dam
area.
If
you
go
to
the
next
page
of
the
document,
I
gave
you
which
is
equally
as
disturbing.
K
So,
given
the
fact
that
there's
going
to
be
so
infrastructure
work
done
on
Charlotte
Street
and
given
the
fact
that
you
all
your
prior
reports,
even
one
set
it's
going
to
reduce
it
to
level
F,
which
is
dangerous
to
personal
safety
and
property.
What's
the
harm
in
agreeing
to
let
us
fund
a
study
for
everyone
to
look
at,
you
know.
If
the
study
comes
back,
there's
none
of
these
problems
exist
or
it's
going
to
be
fine.
K
Then
let's
go
forward
with
it,
but
if
it
comes
back
negative,
liepman
I
think
you
should
have
to
take
a
second
look
at
this
who's
pushing
this
project.
The
neighborhood
is
totally
against
it.
Growth
park
sunset
mountain
everybody
up
there
is
up
in
arms
about
it.
They've
all
contacted
you
all
personally,
I
think
1.25
million
dollars.
This
is
my
personal
feeling
can
be
used
more
and
up
better,
put
better
purposes
in
other
neighborhoods
than
trying
to
who
need
help.
Then
you
there
are
two
bicycle
lanes
and
causing
all
these
problems.
K
Well,
I
think
you
know
where
I'm
coming
from
so
I'm
asking
you
to.
Please
consider
suspending
the
award
of
the
contract
at
this
time
pending
a
study
to
be
performed
by
an
engineering,
qualified
professional
licensed
engineering
firm
that
is
acceptable
to
this
council,
and
if
we
cannot
agree
on
that,
then
we
can
suggest
the
one
and,
if
you
don't
agree
to
that,
then
those
two
can
get
together
and
selectively.
Third,
one
will
have
an
independent
study
and
go
from
there
I.
K
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
understanding
and
allowing
me
to
address
you
on
the
subject.
But
my
my
concern
is
not
alone
in
this,
and
the
question
is
who's
pushing
the
buttons
here
in
City
Hall,
for
this
project,
at
particularly
the
time
of
the
cities
and
such
financial
need
for
using
1.25
million
dollars
for
more
pressing
things,
including
your
transportation.
K
K
E
All
may
recall
that
a
couple
of
months
ago
we
did
do
a
presentation
on
this
short
street
wrote
dine
as
part
of
the
the
manager's
report.
I'm
just
gonna
ask,
can
I
just
come
back
up
and
not
necessarily
a
debate,
but
to
reinforce
the
purpose
of
this
project
and
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
we
as
we
move
forward.
We
are
going
to
be
monitoring
and
getting
data
in
terms
of
the
improvements
that
are
being
made.
D
G
The
Ashland
motion
plan
was
then
undertaken
to
try
to
complement
that
and
to
give
us
a
guidebook
of
some
of
the
projects
that
we
should
do
in
Charlotte
Street
was
one
of
the
many
corridors
that
we
identified
as
being
candidates
for
trying
to
apply
Complete
Streets
principles
to
a
street
that
would
satisfy
or
try
to
meet
the
needs
of
all
users,
pedestrians,
bicyclists,
the
cars
of
course,
and
then
transit
riders.
And
so
that's
that's
the
direction
that
we've
been
going
on
this.
G
We
also
recognize
that
this
is
a
great
opportunity
that
when
we
do
the
project
that
we
need
to
really
monitor
to
see
how
successful
it's
going
to
be
so,
we've
already
worked
out
a
plan
with
the
current
design
team
for
the
first
year
that
they
would
do
before-and-after
studies
and
the
before
studies
will
be
going
on
between
now
and
then
the
construction
phase
into
the
early
next
spring.
The
then
we'll
be
able
to
compare,
say
it
3
blunts,
we
haven't
decided
the
levels.
G
Yet
we
want
to
make
sure
that,
when
it's
done
that
we
wait
a
sufficient
amount
of
time
for
the
traffic
volumes
to
kind
of
settle
down
so,
whether
it
three
months
or
six
months,
we'll
do
it.
The
first
after
study,
then
we'll
follow
it
up
again
at
the
end
of
the
first
year,
then
after
that,
we'll
be
in
a
position
to
where
staff
can
then
take
over
the,
and
if
we
can
go
either
on
a
one-year
cycle
or
two-year
cycle
to
see
how
well
it
does,
as
as
traffic
patterns
might
change
or
and/or
grow,.
D
L
Hi
my
name's
Jonathan
Wainscott
I
think
that
you
should
also
delay
this
expenditure
and
get
a
better
sense
of
what
the
cost
of
the
repair
of
old
toll
road,
which
is
up
in
that
neighborhood,
is
gonna,
be
it's
certainly
not
a
complete
Street.
It's
60
feet
of
landslide.
That
is
washed
out
now.
If
you've
been
up
there
to
take
a
look
at
it
firsthand,
it's
very
impressive.
The
road
that
switches
back
below
that
is
blue
briar
road
I
believe
it's
about
to
be
washed
out
as
well.
L
It's
a
hundred
feet
below
old
toll
road,
so
whatever
retaining
wall
that
you're
gonna
have
to
build
is
going
to
be
hanging
somewhere.
You
know
within
a
within
a
hundred
feet,
but
we're
old
toll
road
is
and
I.
Don't
think
that
the
estimates
as
we've
seen,
estimates
don't
ever
hold
up
right
now.
I
believe
is
five
hundred
to
seven
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars,
and
that's
you
know
very
likely
to
be
quite
a
lot
more
than
that.
So
we've
got
amazing
infrastructure
of
problems.
L
It's
going
to
be
exacerbated
by
climate
change,
we're
going
to
get
a
lot
more
rain.
That's
going
to
happen
and
to
be
fixing.
You
know
bicycle
lanes
first,
before
we
fix
that
road.
It's
threatening
several
private
properties,
there's
a
big
contrast
with
the
speed
with
which
the
city
has
to
fix
its
property
and
the
damage
that
it
causes
to
other
properties
compared
to
the
great
Nashville
sinkhole
and
merriman
Avenue.
That's
been
stuck
with
private
property
owners.
L
There's
a
bunch
of
expensive
property
up
there
I'm
not
necessarily
advocating
that
the
more
expensive
neighborhoods
get
taken
care
of.
But
I
would
you
know,
what's
the
what's:
the
property
value
of
people,
an
old
toll
road
and
blue
briar
when,
when
these
rolled
roads
are
collapsing,
and
that's
just
one
tiny
little
wrinkle
that
we
have
in
all
of
these
mountains
in
in
town
that
is
what's
looming
on
the
horizon
and
I-
think
that
you
need
to
make
a
much
faster.
L
A
M
A
We
have
two
public
hearings.
The
first
is
a
public
hearing
to
consider
rezoning
to
Lots,
located
at
120,
EMA
Road
and
nine
nine,
nine,
nine
nine
and
a
road
from
our
us
two
residential
single-family
low-density
district
to
River
arts
district
open
space,
and
for
this
highly
unusual
zoning
request
here
is
Shannon
tuck
to
tell
us
about
it.
D
M
There
we
go
Thank,
You,
mayor
members
of
council
members
of
the
public.
This
next
item
on
your
agenda
is
a
rezoning
request
for
the
property
located
at
120
and
nine
nine
nine
nine
EMA
Road.
This
particular
request
is
a
little
bit
unique
for
a
few
reasons.
First
of
all,
the
Porsche
we're
only
proposing
to
rezone
a
portion
of
two
Lots,
and
so
the
area
that
you
see
hatched
in
red
is
the
eastern
half
of
two
Lots.
So
it's
a
little.
M
It's
not
immediately
apparent,
but
there
are
two
properties
here
that
are
bisected
by
EMA
Road
in
a
north-south
manner.
So
what
you
see
on
the
right
hand,
side
that's
hatched
in
red
or
the
is
the
eastern
half
of
two
Lots
and
on
the
western
side
of
Emma
Road
directly
across
as
the
western
half
of
those
same
two
Lots.
M
The
property
currently
is
zoned
RS
2
and
the
proposal
is
to
rezone
the
property
to
the
river
Arts
District,
open
space,
designation
or
rad
OSP.
The
rad
OSP
is
a
pretty
restrictive
zoning
designation,
but
it
does
allow
for
the
open
use
of
property
for
a
recreational
or
business
opportunity,
and
that
is
the
request
that
the
property
owner
is
asking
for.
M
It
may
appear
as
though
this
is
an
isolated
pocket
of
Zoning,
but
I've
outlined
in
red
the
river
right-of-way,
and
if
you're
familiar
with
the
rad
open
space
designation,
it
is
sort
of
like
little
pockets
that
are,
that
kind
of
creates
sort
of
a
green
ribbon
of
open
space
along
the
rivers.
So
if
you
see
to
the
south
of
the
property,
you
see
a
red
OSP
at
the
bottom,
so
this
would
be
sort
of
an
extension
of
that
green
ribbon
down
to
the
to
the
property
to
the
south.
M
The
reason
we're
proposing
to
rezone
only
a
portion
of
the
property
is
that
you
can
see
from
this
aerial
exhibit
the
southern
lot
or
120.
Mi
Road
is
currently
developed
with
a
single
family
home.
So
if
we
were
to
rezone
the
entirety
of
the
parcel,
it
would
make
that
residential
home
and
use
non-conforming,
which
isn't
really
our
goal.
Additionally,
the
property
to
the
north
is
undeveloped
and
it
could
be
developed
with
a
single-family
home
in
the
future.
M
Should
the
property
owner
wish
the
proposed
red
open
space
doesn't
preclude
the
use
of
that
the
property
on
the
eastern
side
for
residential
purpose,
provided
it
can
meet
the
flood
hazard
standards,
so
you
can
see
from
this
net
next
exhibit
that
the
entirety
of
the
property
falls
within
the
flood
hazard
area,
with
the
majority
of
it
falling
under
the
flood
way
in
the
flood
way
is
the
most
restrictive
of
the
flood
zones.
It
really
doesn't
allow
for
the
construction
of
a
permanent
structure.
M
There
may
be
opportunity
for
a
small
accessory
structure,
whether
for
the
recreational
purpose
or
for
a
residential
purpose
on
the
portion
of
the
property
that
doesn't
fall
in
the
flood
way.
The
flood
way
here
is
designated
in
that
hatched
area,
so
you
can
see
that
the
majority
of
the
eastern
side
of
those
two
parcels
is
covered
by
the
flood
way.
M
M
If
supported,
we
would
change
that
designation
from
residential
neighborhood
to
parks
open
space
on
the
future
land
use
map.
So
here
you
can
see
that
green
ribbon
being
extended
all
the
way
down
south
to
the
parks
open
space
property,
which
was
that
rad
OSP
this
on
the
southern
end
of
this
red
stretch.
So.
A
A
M
M
Because,
in
addition
to
preserving
or
designating
that
property
as
open
space,
it
also
opens
up
the
opportunity
for
the
property
owner
to
use
that
for
a
recreational
business
purpose,
which
is
what
they
hope
to
do.
So
it
would
allow
for
the
formal
use
of
that
property
for
to
support
some
of
the
river
activities
that
are
currently
occurring
today.
M
So,
in
conclusion,
staff
does
support
this
rezoning
request,
primarily
because
the
split
zoning
designation
will
not
detract
from
the
property's
ability
to
be
used
for
a
residential
purpose
and
that
the
red
open
space
designation
more
closely
matches
the
existing
flood
hazard
conditions
on
the
east
side
of
Emma
Road,
while
also
allowing
for
that
new
opportunity
for
a
business.
Recreational
use
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
A
Okay,
I'm
gonna,
open
the
public
hearing
is
there?
If
there's
anyone
wishing
to
comment
on
this
item,
you
will
the
rules
same
rule
apply
for
any
comment,
three
minutes
to
speak
and
you'll
just
need
to
state
your
name
when
you
begin
there.
Anyone
wishing
to
comment
on
this
somebody
said
yes.
E
A
A
N
I'll,
do
it
I
moved
to
approve
the
rezoning
request
from
residential
single-family
low-density
rs2
to
River
arts
district,
open
space,
rad
OSP,
and
find
that
the
request
in
resolving
future
land
use
map
amendment
from
residential
neighborhood
to
parks,
open
space
is
reasonable,
is
in
the
public
interest
and
is
consistent
with
the
Comprehensive,
Plan
and
other
adopted
plans
and
meets
the
development
needs
of
the
community
in
the
following
ways.
The
rezoning
will
one
be
consistent
with
existing
environmental
constraints
of
the
properties
to
will
allow
opportunities
for
active
recreation
and
three
preserves
the
existing
single-family
use.
C
A
All
right,
all
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
all
right.
We
have
one
other
item
on
our
public
hearings
agenda.
That
is
a
public
hearing
to
consider
the
conditional
zoning
of
three
parcels
from
central
business
district
to
central
business.
District
expansion,
/
conditional
zone
for
the
construction
of
a
mixed-use
building
at
72,
Broadway,
Avenue
and
61,
and
67
North,
Market,
Street
and
jessica
bernstein
is
going
to
present
a
sense.
O
Thank
You
mayor
members
of
the
council,
the
city
clerk
for
that
help
and
the
members
of
the
public,
as
with
stated,
this
is
a
conditional
zoning
request
from
CBD
to
CBD
expansion
for
the
development
of
a
new
mixed-use
building.
The
project
site,
as
you
can
see
on
this
image,
consists
of
three
parcels
with
a
combined
area
of
just
over
half
an
acre
the
site.
O
O
138
hotel
rooms,
37
residential
units
that
do
include
affordable
rental,
affordable
for
sale,
market
rate
for
sale
and
live
work
units
there's
approximately
1,100,
no
more
than
1,100
square
feet
of
retail
space
along
the
ground
level,
Broadway,
as
well
as
some
restaurant
spaces
associated
with
the
hotel
and
the
live
work
units
that
I
mentioned.
The
building
is
proposed
at
nine
storeys
in
height
and
is
approximately
one
hundred
and
sixty
three
thousand
square
feet
in
gross
floor
area,
as
was
shown
on
the
the
Exhibit
B
map.
O
There's
the
site's,
primarily
it's
a
little
misleading
where
the
hatch
marks
lay
over
the
aerials,
but
the
site
is
on
Broadway,
is
surface
parking
and
then
on
North
Market,
Street,
there's
two
small
buildings
that
would
be
removed
as
a
part
of
this
proposal.
Neither
of
them
are
individually
historically
significant,
but
they
are
contributing
resources
in
the
downtown
district.
As
you
can
see
on
the
site
plan,
the
project
complies
with
the
CBD
expansion
requirements
for
12-foot
wide
sidewalks
street
trees
are
proposed.
O
The
proposal
includes
closing
curb
cuts
that
exist
on
Broadway
there's
no
vehicular
access
proposed
on
Broadway
at
all.
The
only
driveway
for
the
development
is
off
of
North
Market
Street
is
one
of
the
CBD
expansion
requirements,
a
single
driveway
access
point
for
development,
the
also
the
guest
drop-off,
which
is
required.
When
you
have
a
lodging
use
it's
required
to
be
internal
to
the
site,
and
that
would
be
from
the
garage
internally.
O
The
parking
parking
is
not
required
in
downtown
projects,
but
it
is
required
for
the
lodging
use
based
on
the
number
of
rooms.
A
minimum
of
69
parking
spaces
would
be
required
in
the
project,
proposes
126
parking
spaces,
so
there
will
be
a
slight
surplus.
The
residential
use
is
not
required
to
have
parking
provided
there.
I
mentioned
the
alley
you
can
see
here
where
the
alley
does
terminate
into
the
project
site
with
this
development
it
spans
across
a
portion
of
that
end
of
the
alley,
so
that
is
required
to
go
through
the
city's
right-of-way
closure
process.
O
It's
a
separate
process.
It's
going
on
now
it
was
evaluated
by
the
Technical
Review
Committee
and
the
multimodal
Commission
and
then
would
come
to
you
all
for
your
approval.
We
have
a
condition
in
the
approval
of
this
development
that
that
would
be
required.
You
would
have
to
approve
that
right-of-way
closure
for
this
to
be
constructed
that
you
really
go
hand
in
hand.
This
is
is
what
I'm
getting
at
the
staff
report
notes
that
all
of
the
design
and
operational
standards
for
downtown
projects
are
met.
O
All
of
those
standards
that
relate
to
the
building,
design
and
fenestration
they're
all
provided
there's
no
special
conditions
related
to
compliance
with
this
development
also,
but
there
are
a
number
of
conditions
that
have
been
provided
and
those
were
included
in
your
b1.
Exhibit
we've
got
an
updated
copy
of
that
in
front
of
you.
The
conditions
that
are
provided
by
the
applicant
are
more
supplementary
to
the
development,
not
often
when
we
have
conditions
it's
about
how
a
project
is
not
able
to
comply.
O
That
I'm
sure,
though,
though,
want
to
tell
you
about
that,
incorporated
some
art
designs,
art
vitrines
along
that
walkway
to
kind
of
add
some
visual
interest
for
the
pedestrian
connection.
Other
conditions
that
were
included
have
to
do
with
providing
an
upgraded
transit
shelter
in
the
vicinity
to
be
determined
by
the
transit
staff
at
the
most
appropriate
location.
O
There
was
a
lot
of
discussion
at
the
downtown
Commission
about
some
best
management
practices
that
would
be
employed
during
the
construction
process,
and
the
applicant
has
agreed
to
a
condition
that
they
would
work
with
our
development
services
staff
on
employing
those
best
management
practices
to
really
reduce
the
it's
the
Efus
when
that's
applied
to
the
exterior
of
the
building
that
other
projects
downtown.
Where
there's
been
a
lot
of
sort
of
efis
snow
floating
around
and
they're,
going
to
reuse
everything,
they
can
to
make
sure
that
that
does
not
happen.
O
Then
another
condition
that
the
applicant
put
in
has
to
do
with
the
potential
impact
to
the
city
market.
Now,
there's
been
a
lot
of
news
about
that.
The
one
put
out
the
one
vehicular
access
point
for
this
project
is
on
North
Market.
Street,
and
that
is
overlaps
with
the
footprint
of
the
city
market,
but
city's
current
policy
for
special
event.
Street
closures
prohibits
vehicular
access
to
private
properties
during
the
event.
So,
with
the
city's
current
policy,
there
would
be
no
impact
to
the
city
market
by
vehicles.
O
They
would
not
be
allowed
to
come
and
go
under
the
current
policy,
so
it's
already
secured
that
way.
The
applicant
wanted
to
go
above
and
beyond
that
and
add
a
condition
to
the
b1
exhibit
to
say
definitely
will
be
no
impact
to
the
city
market
once
the
building
is
constructed
as
well
as
during
the
construction
process.
O
O
The
proposal
is
consistent
with
the
city's
living
Asheville
Comprehensive
Plan,
the
downtown
future
land-use
category,
but
that
would
not
have
to
be
changed.
That
category
encourages
mixed-use
developments
that
prioritize
pedestrian
infrastructure
and
connectivity
proposes
a
variety
of
active
commercial
spaces
and
provides
for
both
market
rate
and
affordable
residential
units.
We've
noted
a
number
of
times
when
we've
come
before
you
when
staff
has
come
before
you
that
we
don't
have
criteria
for
evaluating
lodging
uses
and
that's
still
the
situation.
O
O
F
O
Of
the
uses
that
are
along
the
city
market
have
the
same
restriction
you
and
just
like.
If
there's
a
special
event,
a
race
in
your
neighborhood,
you
may
not
have
vehicular
access
non-emergency
vehicular
access
at
that
time
right,
so
that
would
be
on
the
operator
of
the
hotel
to
manage
where
the
parking
would
be
and
how
that
would
be.
According.
A
F
Are
one
of
the
busiest
times
for
hotels
for
weekend
visitors
checking
in
checking
out
and
and
I
just
I
guess:
I'm
really
wondering,
and
maybe
this
is
a
question
for
the
applicant,
not
necessarily
for
you.
But
there
was
a
proposal
earlier
to
use
the
alley
that
came
out
onto
walnut.
That
seems
to
have
been
withdrawn,
which
which
makes
sense
to
me
but
I,
I,
don't
I,
guess
I'll
just
ask
the
applicant
and
what
the
plan
is.
Thank
you
and.
O
I
P
Me
for
the
city
attorney
in
terms
of
our
criteria,
for
what
we
look
to
and
before
we
gotta
get
into
this
or
hear
sort
of
hear
from
impaired
from
the
applicant
with
respect
to
to
the
city
market,
which
we've
heard
a
lot
about,
can
you
give
us
any
guide
in
the
spread
in
terms
of
what
we
can
or
cannot
consider
as
it
relates
to
that
point
in
our
determination?
Yes,.
Q
As
this
is
a
conditional
zoning
request
from
the
applicant,
the
statutory
language
gives
counsel
the
guidance
on
what
the
consideration
should
be.
168
383
specifically
provides
that
council's
consideration
should
be
primarily
a
review
of
whether
or
not
the
proposal
is
consistent
with
the
approved
area
plans,
whether
the
project
itself
is
reasonable
and
in
the
public
interest.
A
A
R
Good
evening,
mayor
city,
council,
members
of
staff
and
the
folks
in
the
room,
thanks
for
showing
up
for
this
important
project,
I
would
like
to
also
reserve
some
rebuttal
time
at
the
end.
Council
will
give
us
that
also
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
were
clear
on
the
conditions
that
were
added
in
number.
12
conditions
should
be
very
simply.
The
City
Market
will
not
be
disrupted
during
the
construction
product
process
period.
So
there's
no
qualifier
after
that,
there's
no
working
around
it
just
says
the
City
Market
would
not
be
disrupted
during
the
construction
process.
R
Similarly,
and
similarly
motivated
13
MB,
one
should
read
and
a
small
little
more
clear.
This
way
during
the
times
of
road
closures
are
associated
with
the
City
Market.
In
its
current
configuration
or
North
Market
Street
in
front
of
the
development
site,
there
will
be
no
vehicular
access
to
the
development
from
the
primary
driveway
on
North
Market
Street,
except
for
emergency
vehicles
period.
During
these
times,
non-emergency
vehicular
access
to
the
development
will
be
from
the
alley,
so
those
were
last.
R
And
that's
quite
frankly,
that's
one
of
those
things
that
it's
an
ally,
their
property
owner
on
the
highly
or
would
be
a
property
owner.
Ally
they'd-
probably
get
that
as
a
bright,
but
just
to
make
sure
it
was
clear
to
folks,
particularly
the
folks
at
the
farmers
market,
where
that
other
access
would
be
more
to
make
sure
that
part
was
in
there.
R
Again,
my
name
is
Derrick
Allen
I'm,
the
attorney
working
with
the
developers
on
this
project
and
I'll
give
an
overview
of
the
project
that
I'll
introduce
some
of
the
team
members
Chris
date
with
civil
design.
Concepts
will
specifically
talk
about
the
project
with
regards
to
the
planning
and
zoning
requirements
and
Peter
a
breeze
with
Nha
works
will
share
with
you
the
overall
scope
of
the
project.
We've
tried
to
put
together
the
high
points.
This
has
been
a
long
time
coming.
The
developers
are
here,
BPR
properties,
Birju
Patel
and
his
father.
R
R
Planning
and
Zoning
unanimously
approved
the
conditional
zoning
request
and
since
then,
we've
continued
to
add
additional
zoning
conditions,
even
as
latest
tonight,
so
we're
trying
to
work
with
the
dynamic
we're
trying
to
work
with
balancing
the
interest
and,
most
importantly,
we're
trying
to
deal
with
something
that
elif's
in
the
city
have
been
dealing
with,
which
is
how
do
we
fund
affordable
housing
projects?
Where
do
we
put
them?
What
do
they
look
like
and
how
do
we
manage
the
hotel
pieces?
R
This
isn't
just
another
hotel
and
it
isn't
just
an
affordable
housing
project
is
both
37
units
is
real
residential
development.
If
it
was
a
standalone
project,
we
would
be
here
in
front
of
you
talking
about
the
residence
or
components
of
a
37
unit,
affordable
housing
project
that
had
market-rate
in
it
as
well.
We
listened
to
the
comments
from
downtown
Commission
in
July.
We've
explored
the
needs
of
Asheville
and
we
know
that
there's
a
need
for
affordable
housing.
R
R
We
want
to
support
the
live-work
lifestyle,
but
with
who
we
have
in
our
units
and
who
comes
to
our
units
and
who
visits
our
units.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
living
wage.
We
want
to
promote
alternative
transportation
options,
walkability
bus
routes.
We
want
people
to
live
where
they
can
work,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
incorporate
more
resident
to
create
an
art
into
our
downtown
infrastructure.
R
This
supports
our
Broadway
cultural
gateway.
Vision
is
compatible
with
the
requirements
of
the
zoning
district,
design,
standards
and
guidelines.
This
enhances
our
pedestrian
experience
on
all
sides
of
the
project
it's
compatible
to
the
surrounding
area,
and
it
has
compliance
with
design
review
guidelines
from
the
downtown
Commission
and
I've
already
mentioned
the
unanimous
approval
from
Planning
and
Zoning,
the
nitty-gritty
of
the
site,
to
consist
of
three
parcels
all
willing
owners,
no
one
is
being
forced
to
be
here
in
those
willing
owners.
Two
of
the
offices
are
vacant.
R
R
Seventy
four
dollars
estimated
taxes
after
development,
432
Kyler's,
we've
all
seen
those
studies
to
have
the
cool
buildings
downtown,
to
show
the
value
and
tax
value
and
how
you
are
supposed
to
develop
your
downtown
areas
and
where
the
highest
value
of
those
assets
are,
and
we
believe
this
is
this.
Is
it
and
it's
not
just
a
project
built
on
condominiums
for
wealthy
people?
It's
a
project
built
on
places
where
normal
Asheville
residents
can
live
and
work
getting
into
the
details
on
the
37
residential
units.
R
S
Good
evening,
mayor
members
of
council
I'll
keep
this
short
Jessica
did
a
great
job
summarizing
the
project.
I
did
just
want
to
point
out
a
couple
of
the
technical
aspects.
This
is
a
surface
lot
on
Broadway,
so
we
will
be
eliminating
two
current
curb
cuts
and
making
Broadway
solely
pedestrian
focused.
The
project
does
in
doing
so.
S
It
provides
a
couple
of
additional
new
parallel
parking
spaces
on
Broadway,
as
well
as
an
additional
new
parking
parallel
parking
space
on
Market
Street,
as
as
Derrick
reiterated
and
Jessica
referenced
in
the
conditions
for
one
we
we
do
meet
the
the
ordinance
as
it
requires
one
one
public
access
for
the
for
the
project.
That
being
said,
we
are
conditioning
that
we
will
restrict
that
during
the
city
market
hours
and
only
during
the
city
market
hours
would
we
have
some
proposed
use
of
the
the
plaited
25-foot
alley
that
is
in
the
rear
of
the
project.
S
T
Thank
you
very
much,
members
of
City
Council.
My
name
is
Peter
Albury
I'm,
the
director
of
the
MHA
Works
office,
here
in
Asheville,
where
the
architectural
firm
charged
with
designing
the
project
and
I
wanted
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
our
goals
as
a
firm
in
taking
on
this
project
that
why
we,
we
are
working
with
the
developer
on
it,
and
it's
really
for
several
reasons.
T
Our
firm.
We
do
a
lot
of
work
with
affordable
housing
out
of
our
Durham
office
and
we
are
currently
doing
a
lot
of
mixed-use
projects,
not
only
in
Asheville
but
in
Durham
and
on
a
few
smaller
projects
than
our
Greenville
North
Carolina
office.
So
this
project
is
very
interesting
to
us
and
we
took
it
on
because
of
the
the
goal
of
the
developer,
to
do
a
project
that
wasn't
just
a
hotel.
That's
why
it's
a
mixed-use
project.
T
Here
in
the
Asheville
area,
as
was
noted
in
what
the
recent
study
by
art
space,
it's
a
very
critical
need
for
our
city
right
now,
and
the
combination
of
the
uses
in
this
project,
we
feel
is
a
great
way
to
move
forward
in
coming
up
with
a
way
for
developers
for
the
city
for
the
community
to
get
together
in
a
positive
way
to
help
collaboratively
solve
some
of
our
problems
that
we
have
now.
This
diagram
right
here.
This
shows
the
the
overall
sight
of
the
building.
T
This
is
a
diagram
showing
how
access
on
and
off
the
site
would
occur
during
the
week
during
the
main
part
of
the
week
when
the
farmers
market
is
not
in
session,
which
is
approximately
6:00
a.m.
on
Saturday
morning
till
1:00
p.m.
in
the
afternoon,
we
would
restrict
all
access
into
and
out
of
the
building
from
the
Market
Street
entry,
we're
very
passionate
about
the
farmers
market,
because
not
only
is
it
a
great
institution
in
the
city,
it's
something
and
I
personally
in
favor
of
and
have
supported.
T
I
went
to
the
farmers
market
back
when
it
was
on
the
steak
and
ale
site
back
in
I.
Guess
the
late
80s
or
early
90s,
so
I
see
it
is
a
very
integral
part
of
downtown.
The
developers
see
it
as
an
amenity
and
an
opportunity
for
guests
at
the
hotel
and
residents
of
the
condominium
to
have
an
amenity
right
outside
their
front
door
on
a
Saturday
morning.
So
there's
no
way
we
would
ever
want
to
suggest
moving
them,
because
it's
amenity
for
our
project.
T
It
enhances
what
we're
doing
and
gives
something
back
to
the
market,
because
we
will
be
brain,
probably
a
hundred
more
customers
to
them
every
Saturday
that
that
they're
there.
So
we
see
that
as
a
a
win-win
situation
that
we
you
know,
we
would
want
to
support
and
maintain
throughout
the
life
of
thumb,
the
market
on
the
days
on
Saturdays.
When
there's
the
possibility
that
there
would
be
a
random
person
who
would
need
to
leave
the
garage,
we
would
suggest
that
they
have
to
go
down
the
alley
most
of
the
time
night.
T
T
Saturday
morning
the
residents
I've
lived
downtown
since
1996
and
we
have
two
cars.
They
never
get
used
and
we
walk
all
the
time
and
we
walk
over
to
the
farmers
market
on
Saturday
morning.
The
other
neighbors
in
our
building
walk
to
the
farmers
market
all
the
time,
so
we're
in
full
support
of
the
market,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
they
thrive
and
prosper
and
then
that
we
work
with
them
as
far
as
hotel
guests
coming
in.
T
This
is
an
overall
view
of
the
project
site,
it's
an
aerial
map,
or
rather
an
aerial
photograph,
and
it
shows
some
of
the
surrounding
buildings
that
are
make
the
cotton
make
up
the
context.
This
is
60
North
Market,
that
has
the
pricing,
which
is
75
kind
of
medium
units
and
below
grade
parking.
Our
project
has
30
plus
condominium
units,
and,
if
you
converted
all
the
hotel
units
and
combined
them
into
kind
of
medium
units,
they
would
be
approximately
the
same
size.
So
as
you
look
at
60,
North
Market,
it's
very
similar
in
size,
okay,.
T
T
Not
just
gonna
be
a
paved
walkway
with
some
plants,
it's
going
to
be
a
real
green
roof
it'll
be
the
fourth
green
roof
that
we,
our
firm,
has
done
downtown
this
arts
walkway
along
the
north
side
of
the
building,
will
feature
artists
work
by
local
artists,
who
are
going
to
be
commissioned
to
design
and
install
murals
and
to
have
installations
in
for
Trine's
along
the
walkway.
Again,
it's
a
way
to
support
the
arts.
T
Community
we're
providing
affordable,
live
work,
units
two
of
them
for
creatives,
affordable
apartments,
there's
six
of
them
for
creatives
and
affordable
kind
of
medium
for
creatives
as
well
to
be
a
local
retail,
possibly
an
art
gallery
on
the
Biltmore
Broadway
side
and
rooftop
terrace
that
will
be
publicly
accessible,
and
these
are
the
numbers
about
the
60%
ami
with
the
rents
will
be.
They
will
be
locked
in
for
a
long
period
of
time.
It'll
be
a
commitment
by
the
developer
to
maintain
these
as
affordable
units
in
perpetuity
in
this
project.
There's
a
lot
of
talk
about.
T
Why
is
it
cost
so
much
to
build,
affordable
housing?
Well,
it
is
construction
is
very
expensive
in
this
country
right
now,
and
the
developer
is
investing
over
2
million
dollars
just
to
build
the
affordable
units
because
they
want
to
give
back
to
the
arts
community.
They
will
never
recoup
any
that's,
essentially
a
gift
to
the
creatives
in
our
community,
and
we
all
think
that's
a
very
important
aspect
of
the
project
and
something
we
will
support.
T
The
hotel
component
will
have
the
affordable
housing.
We
will
accept
Housing,
Choice
vouchers,
other
benefits
of
the
residential
units
located
within
a
quarter-mile
transit,
grocery
store
and
downtown
job
center.
They've
made
a
commitment
to
pay
living
wages
available,
provide
bus,
passes
for
employees
and
we'll
be
providing
display
work
for
local
artists,
not
just
stuck
on
the
building,
but
as
an
integrated
part
of
the
interior
and
the
exterior
of
the
project
paying
a
living
wage
for
all
the
employees.
We're
not
displacing
any
residents,
there
are
there's
only
living
in
either
of
the
buildings.
T
Downtown
I
mean,
most
importantly,
we're
not
displacing
anyone
from
the
City
Market.
We
have
performed
a
traffic
study
and
the
traffic
study
indicates
that
we
were
well
within
guidelines
of
the
amount
of
traffic
that
would
be
on
Broadway
and
Marcus
Tree,
it's
much
less
than
what,
with
normal
year,
allow
with
that
type
of
street.
So
with
that
a
presentation-
and
we
will
take
questions
from
City
Council.
F
F
So
if
I
understand
what
what
you
all
have
said,
there
will
be
no
access.
There
will
essentially
be
no
vehicular,
essentially
no
vehicular
access
to
this
building
on
Saturday
mornings.
There
won't
be
any
off
North
Market
Street
as
I'm
looking
at
the
drawings
I,
don't
see
an
entrance
off
of
the
alley,
except
through
the
trash.
The
loading
dock
at
the
trash
is
that
right.
F
T
S
Ultimately,
the
goal
is
to
minimize,
through
proper
management,
hotel
staff,
knowing
that,
if
guests
are
checking
out
that
they've
got
to
place
their
cars
in
an
off
premise
parking
structure
on
that
evening
beforehand,
so
that
it
would
be
available
on
the
Saturday
morning,
the
residents
who
live
there.
They
recognize
and
know
that
the
the
city
market
goes
on
and
that
they
would
not
have
typical
access
to
their
vehicles.
Just
like
other
people
on
that
that
Street
on
those
hours
we
all
know.
The
reality,
though,
is
a
child
gets
sick.
S
Somebody's
plans
changed
unexpectedly,
and
there
would
be
a
scenario
where
someone
does
need
to
get
out
and
instead
of
trying
to
come
up
with
a
plan
where
those
we
would
disrupt
the
city
market
Peter
had
identified
that
we
could
lift
up
a
couple
of
garage
doors
and
provide
that
access
out
to
the
to
the
25-foot
alleyway
behind
the
site.
It's
it's.
Maybe
the
I
don't
know
if
it's
the
proper
tournament
cumbersome.
A
R
Thing
I
want
to
add
to
that.
Is
this
issue
in
terms
of
how
you
get
anybody
who's
living
in
any
of
these
properties
and
how
during
market
is
going
to
exist,
whether
this
project
goes
for
it
or
not,
as
long
as
their
residential
units
going
there
so
that
you
know
I
get
your
question
but
yeah
they're
going
to
resolve
that
the
property
owners
that
around
there
and
it's
a
public
outing
so
yeah.
T
U
F
I
know
I
understand
so
on
so
again
on
Saturday
mornings.
Basically
the
residents,
if
they
were
gonna,
go
somewhere
on
Saturday
morning.
They
would
need
to
they
could
use
this
or
they
would
need
to
move
their
car
the
night
before
right,
move
their
car
the
night
before
they'd
have
to
anticipate
that
and
then
so
so
so
so
couple
things
I've
heard.
You
say
that
there's
not
that
much
business
at
hotels,
checking
in
and
out
on
Saturday
mornings.
F
I
actually
took
the
liberty
of
calling
a
couple
of
hotel
years
this
morning
to
find
out
to
ask
that
very
same
question.
I
was
told
something
very
different,
which
is
that
it
could
on
weekends.
It
can
be
up
to
50%
of
your
visitors
that
are
coming
and
going
in
in
in
that
timeframe,
and
that,
for
even
people
who
are
staying
in
town
they
a
lot
of
them,
are
going
to
be
getting
in
their
cars
to
go.
F
The
Biltmore
Estate
Blue
Ridge
Parkway,
wherever
wherever
they
go
so
I
I'm,
not
somehow
the
it's
not
ringing
quite
true
to
me
that
there
would
not
be
that
much
traffic
anticipated
here,
guests
coming
and
going
traffic,
but
the
other
thing-
and
this
is
maybe
the
biggest
thing-
is:
how
did
you
all
reach
out
to
any
of
the
property
owners
adjacent
to
this
alley
and
have
a
conversation
about
what
the
access
might
look
like?
There
are
a
number
of
buildings
along
there
I.
My
my
personal
office
actually
looks
over
this
alley.
F
I
look
at
it
every
single
day,
I,
walk
by
it
multiple
times
a
day.
It
always
seems
pretty
busy
pretty
crowded.
There's
try
there
there's
parking
in
the
alley
now.
Maybe
all
of
those
uses
are
illegal,
but
but
they
do
happen
and
I
would
I
would
hate
to
think
that
we
would
be
making
a
decision
that
would
impact
I,
don't
know
how
many
property
owners
are
along
that
alley
that
have
not
been
consulted
or
brought
into
this
conversation.
Yet.
T
Well,
one
thing
to
keep
in
mind
is
that
there
were
legally
advertised
public
meetings
about
the
project
that
we
always
from
the
very
beginning.
Now
we
that
alley
was
for
trash
collection
for
the
project,
and
this
is
a
public
alley
that,
yes,
there
are
adjoining
property
owners
and
yes,
they
everyone
should
be
consulted
in
that
regard,
but
they
we
didn't
ever
tell
anyone.
Then
we
were
never
going
to
use
the
alley.
A
A
I
mean,
frankly,
it's
the
applicants
problem
to
meet
the
conditions,
so
I
mean
I.
Get
that
what
you're
saying
is
this
may
not
be
reasonable.
The
applicant
may
go
back
to
the
drawing
board
and
say
you
know
we
could
just
we
just
can't
make
this
work,
but
we
can.
We,
as
a
council,
can
impose
this
condition
and
it
is
up
to
them
yeah.
Just
so.
It's
clear
how
this
works
as
a
process.
It's
up
to
the
applicant
to
meet
the
condition
requirements
and
that's
not
negotiable.
F
I
know
I
realize
that's
not
that's
not
our
problem
to
some
degree.
My
concern
is
that
if,
if
we
were
to
say
yes
to
this,
that
we
would
pretty
quickly
after
construction
find
that
it's
not
a
workable
situation
and
then
I
fear
that
the
the
market
would
be
really
the
only
other
option,
I'm
just
kind
of
generally
floored-
that
it
wasn't
really
until
April
of
this
year
that
anybody
sort
of
figured
out
that
this
was
that
the
market
was
going
to
be
impacted.
A
Well,
apparently,
the
market
plan
approval
Mac
shows
that
the
market
doesn't
begin
until
farther
up
the
street,
but
in
reality
the
barricades
are
placed
at
the
end
of
the
street,
so
I
mean
I.
Don't
disagree
with
you,
I
think
that
staff
and
the
applicant
might
have
been
able
to
forecast
this
this
challenge,
but
here.
S
F
S
This
kind
of
the
first
goal
was
to
come
up
with
operational
management
ideas
that
could
significantly
minimize
or
go
as
far
as
we
could
to
minimize
the
the
need
for
the
access
that
would
interfere
with
the
city
market,
with
the
the
just
the
the
reality
that
there
are
times
when
when
unexpected
things
happen,
as
there
are
other
garages
that
that
egress
out
onto
the
25-foot
alley
back
there,
we
had
suggested
the
idea
that
that
could
be
that
kind
of
relief
valve
if
necessary.
Now
that
is
been
a
relatively
recent
aspect.
S
I
have
had
some
initial
conversations
with
some
business
owners
along
that
along
that
alleyway,
but
I
think
that
is
a
you
know
a
longer
conversation
to
have.
At
this
point,
we
are
comfortable
with
the
condition
from
counsel
that
says
that
the
project
will
not
allow
vehicular
traffic
out
onto
Market
Street
during
the
hours
of
the
city
market,
when
it's
in
that
location.
A
F
R
I,
don't
a
follow-up!
You
had
asked
about
conversations
with
neighbors
along
that
alley.
That
has
been
happening
over
the
last
couple
days.
It's
how
I
ended
up
here
and
not
other
attorneys
working
on
it,
so
that
has
been
happening.
I've
not
been
part
of
those
conversations.
I
know
because
I've
seen
the
email,
correspondence
self.
V
R
A
W
Good
evening
my
name
is
Mike.
Mcqueary
and
I
have
managed
the
Asheville
city
market
since
it
opened
in
2008.
I
had
some
prepared
comments,
but
I
may
need
to
wing
it
a
little
bit
here.
Based
on
these
recent
developments
and
some
changes
that
we
were
not
aware
of,
I
want
to
assert
that
the
impacts,
the
Asheville
City
Market
are
not
quite
are
quite
a
bit
less
clear
than
have
been
suggested.
So
far.
W
The
recommendations
and
conditions
outlined
in
the
staff
report,
while
indicating
an
intention
for
Asheville
City
Market
to
continue
operating
on
North
Market,
Street
fall
short
of
assuring
there
would
be
no
negative
impacts,
exhibit
the
references,
both
construction
safeguards
and
a
newly
proposed
option
for
continuing
to
have
North
Market
Street
closed
for
the
farmers
market
item
12
reads:
the
City
Market
will
not
be
disrupted
disrupted
during
the
construction
construction
process.
Apparently
that's
all
it
says
now.
It
did
have
another
sentence
that
I
was
going
to
address,
but
I
do
want
to
I.
W
Do
want
to
ask
or
raise
a
concern
that
what
the
word
disrupted
means
and
who
would
be
the
arbiter
of
the
strut
disruption
for
the
City
Market
I,
live
downtown
for
20
years
and
seen
a
lot
of
things
being
built,
and
it's
difficult
for
me
to
believe
that
a
building
can
be
built
where
it's
going
to
be
built
without
disrupting
the
event
on
North
Market
Street.
This
is
I
regard
that
as
an
uncertainty,
not
a
claim
that
it
definitely
would.
But
it's
uncertain
to
me
that
it
could
happen
without
disruption.
W
Item
13
states
that
North
Market
Street
will
continue
to
be
closed
for
market
use
on
Saturdays
from
6
to
2,
as
the
permit
not
six
to
one.
The
proposed
condition
relies
completely
on
hotel
access
using
an
alley
off
Walnut
Street
when
the
market
is
open
and
the
images
that
I've
shared
with
you
and
on
display
or
images
I
took
this
morning
of
the
market,
I'm
sorry
of
the
alley,
as
you
go
into
the
alley.
This
is
me
walking
into
the
alley
until
I
reach
the
end,
or
at
least
I
can
photograph
the
end.
W
W
A
A
W
There's
also
a
reference
in
the
staff
report
to
explore
a
process
to
move
martin,
the
market
elsewhere
downtown
we
spent
years
looking
for
a
viable,
downtown
location.
The
market
requires
60
vendors
bases
with
vendor
vehicle
parking,
150
or
more
customer
parking
spaces.
Restroom
access
and
all
of
these
elements
must
be
available
and
accessible.
W
There
are
many
other
cities
and
communities
where
permanent
downtown
markets
have
been
created.
It
is
obvious
that
our
community
supports
local
farmers,
small
businesses
and
sustainable
access
to
local
foods.
We
need
to
work
together
to
redefine
our
relationship
and
to
show
the
ongoing
existence
of
a
downtown
Farmers
Market
on
Market
Street.
X
My
name
is
Chris
McGrane
43
year
resident
of
Asheville
I
own
property.
One
block
removed
from
the
project
on
Carolina
Lane
I
want
to
see
the
continued
development
of
downtown.
There's
really
no
point
to
stop
development,
because
someone
doesn't
like
the
project.
I
think
this
project
has
a
lot
to
offer
downtown
the
condos
in
particular.
When
people
live
downtown,
they
work
downtown
when
they
live
here
they
don't
have
to
drive
to
downtown.
X
The
parking
apparently
is
being
addressed
within
this
project
for
the
hotel
and
the
residents
you
have
across
the
street
is
the
new
or
the
renovating
the
project.
The
Center
for
craft
of
design
I.
Think
that's
going
to
fit
in
well
with
the
artistic
nature
of
this
project.
I
think
they
correlate
well.
That
part
of
downtown
is
also
kind
of
underserved
for
commercial
retail.
Was
that
much
going
on
down
there?
X
This
project
will
have
retail
on
the
street
level,
as
well
as
the
gallery
which,
right
across
the
street,
from
the
Center
for
design,
aesthetically
I,
think
it's
a
good-looking
project
right
now,
when
you
get
off
the
highway
and
drive
to
the
center
of
downtown,
you
see
the
parking
lot.
Well,
that's!
Okay,
but
this
nice
building,
you
know
as
a
visual
entry
to
downtown,
is
certainly
a
good
thing
and
with
those
things
combined,
I
think
you
should
approve
the
project.
Thank
you.
Y
A
A
Y
Y
Several
buzz.
Words
were
used
here.
Economic
benefits,
okay,
well,
I've,
read
that
one
out
of
seven
jobs
here
is
supported
by
tourism.
That
may
be
true,
but
that
one
job
is
a
low-paying
job.
That's
what's
not
mentioned.
I've
also
heard
about
the
taxes,
the
hotel
tax
well,
according
to
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
25%
of
those
taxes
go
to
repairing
and
helping
our
city
of
Asheville
75%
of
those
go
to
advertising
to
get
more
people
to
come
here.
Y
I
used
to
be
a
teacher
and
I
used
to
teach
my
students
about
the
ripple
effect,
and
what
we're
not
seeing
here
or
hearing
about
is
the
ripple
effect
here
are
some
ripple
effects
the
traffic
we're
all
aware
of
the
traffic
right?
Well,
the
traffic,
the
more
traffic
you
have
on
the
roads,
and
it's
not
going
to
just
be
here
in
town,
because
people
who
come
here
go
to
the
Arboretum.
Y
Residents
living
here
the
ability
to
use
our
downtown.
What
about
us?
You
have
all
these
hotels
being
built
in
town
and
all
these
people
who
just
walk
out
their
door.
Oh
I've,
seen
the
Art
Museum
I'm
gonna
be
a
docent
there
that
they're
gonna
walk
out
to
that
beautiful
Art
Museum.
While
we
who
don't
live
in
the
town
or
who
don't
have
a
hotel
room
in
the
town
are
gonna
have
to
one
fight
for
a
parking
space
and
to
fight
for
a
space
to
even
get
into
some
of
the
events
in
town.
Y
Z
A
Z
So
I
organized
mural
events
in
Asheville,
I've
done
mural
events
for
the
the
city,
schools
have
done
40,
murals
and
residents
with
students
and
city
schools.
I've
worked
with
the
with
a
lot
of
the
artists
in
town
and
kind
of
become
the
organizer
of
community
mural
events
and
I've
been
invited
to
spearhead
a
project
for
this
hotel.
I
realized
like,
oh
god.
Z
My
colleague
and
I
did
the
good
vibes
and
the
stay
weird
so
we're
trying
to
like
do
big
things
that
are
really
interesting
for
Asheville,
and
so,
when
Patel
offered
me
this
position,
it
felt
really
amazing,
but
it
also
feels
like
just
kind
of
bizarre
and
ironic
to
be
faced
with
something
like
I
see.
I
remember,
you
know,
I,
remember,
being
able
to
get
across
town
in
ten
minutes
and
I
understand.
Z
What's
going
on
so
I,
don't
really
I
feel
conflicted,
but
that's
I'm
just
here
to
present
that
that,
in
fact
this
is
an
art
focused
project
which
is
really
cool
I,
you
know,
no
one
else's
has
offered
us
a
piece
of
work.
That's
this
enormous
that
we
can
bring
in
all
of
our
colleagues
and
make
make
something
that
really
makes
our
town
stand
out
and
I.
Think
some
of
the
amenities
that
are
being
offered
should
be
the.
Z
AA
Think
there's
no
avoiding
no
matter
whether
you
like
this
building
or
not
that
it
is
massive
and
that
it
also
has
a
serious
parking
issue,
and
this
to
me
points
out
some
of
the
problems
with
the
system
that
has
allowed
it
to
get
through
all
this
approval
process
and
still
have
an
issue
with
the
with
the
market
on
Market.
Street.
I
would
like
to
see
this
council,
because
this
this
approval
process
that
you
all
are
about
to
design
is
if
it
were
automatic,
it
would
already
be
improved
by
now.
AA
So
this
is
essentially
your
looking
out
for
the
welfare
of
the
public
here
and
I.
Don't
think
that
this
building,
as
is
serves
the
public
good,
because
the
parking
situation
is
untenable,
I
mean
that
the
access
to
the
parking
is
untenable,
even
if
the
market
weren't
there
having
the
hotel
dump
all
of
its
traffic
onto
that
back
street
I,
don't
think,
is
the
best
idea
and
I
used
to
work
in
an
architectural
office.
If
I
had
presented
this
project
to
you,
I
would
have
been
fired.
AA
There
is
no
way
this
arrangement
would
have
been
allowed
out
of
our
offices,
and,
let
me
tell
you,
you
all
hold
the
golden
key.
You
have
given
away
the
permission
to
close
the
alley,
at
least
in
part.
This
project
would
not
be
possible
if
you
didn't
give
away
that
public
land
the
alley
closure
process.
You
are
donating
that
land
to
the
footprint
of
this
building
that
allows
that
parking
garage
to
function.
AA
If
you
did
not
have
that
piece
there,
you
couldn't
put
the
ramps
in
you
couldn't
get
access
to
the
second
floors,
so
you
all
hold
a
lot
of
power
in
your
hands
right
now
on
your
ability
to
say
that
you
can
demand
more
of
this
project.
This
is
a
major
financial
project
that
they're
putting
in
front
of
you
to
decide
and
I
think
you
can
allow
them
to
take
a
little
bit
more
time
to
sort
this
out.
It
has
raced
through
the
process.
I've,
never
seen
anything
like
it.
AA
Allow
these
people
to
go
and
talk
to
the
alley
about
the
closure
pieces.
Allow
them
to
find
out
how
much
resistance
they're
going
to
get
to
that,
and
maybe
figure
out,
there's
a
better
way
to
access
this
building
than
North
Market
Street,
because
the
building
being
closed
for
two
hours
a
week
is
bad
but
seven
hours
on
a
Saturday.
AA
Is
that
really
what
it
takes
to
get
this
process
through
I
mean
I
knew
as
soon
as
the
hotel
moratorium
was
announced,
it
was
gonna,
be
a
100-yard
dash
to
get
everything
through
possible,
but
this
is
a
bit
much
I
think
you
can
take
more
time
with
this
go
back
to
the
drawing
board
on
some
of
these
problems.
That
would
be
what
I
would
request
of
you
guys.
So
thank
you.
A
N
AB
Councilmembers
think
you've
taken
the
time
to
hear
our
concerns
tonight.
My
name
is
Wendy
brew.
I
own
driver
to
farm
and
I
saw
our
pork,
beef
and
eggs
at
Asheville,
City
Market.
For
me,
this
project
represents
fifty
thousand
dollars,
and
twenty
percent
of
my
income
I
believe
that
approving
the
project
this
evening
will
be
the
death
of
Asheville
City
Market
that'll
have
a
disastrous
effect
on
my
business
and
that
of
dozens
of
other
vendors,
and
there
are
hundreds
of
employees.
AB
I
am
here
to
ask
that
you
vote
against
the
project
tonight
or,
at
the
very
least
that
you
vote
to
delay
its
approval.
Until
are
all
parties
are
able
to
determine
whether
there's
a
mutually
beneficial
solution.
I've
already
sent
you
an
email
expressing
my
concerns
and
I
won't
reiterate
those
points
tonight.
I
am
speaking
tonight
because
I
believe
that
under
any
normal
circumstances,
you
wouldn't
think
twice
about
delaying
this
project.
AB
However,
these
aren't
normal
circumstances.
The
elephant
in
this
room
is
that
you
will
be
considering
moratorium
within
the
near
future,
and
you
are
voting
on
this
project
tonight,
specifically
because
of
that
this
project
I'm
here
to
urge
you
to
vote
as
you
would,
if
that
weren't
the
case
this
project,
as
proposed
with
no
real
solution
solution
for
Saturday
morning,
access
that
doesn't
impact
our
market
is
not
ready
for
approval
tonight.
AB
AB
Work
with
market
organizers,
especially
after
concern,
was
expressed
by
market
organizers
in
April
during
the
planning
phases
of
their
project
during
the
months
that
they
spent
thinking
through
this
project,
while
Asheville
City
Market
operated
every
single
Saturday
on
their
only
access
Street
on
North,
Market
Street,
saying
now
that
they're
in
full
support
of
our
market
is
simply
not
true.
It's
the
lip
service
that
they
hope
will
get
them
past.
What
they
see
is
this
little
bump
in
the
road.
AB
That
is
our
farmers
market
and
it's
safe
to
say
that
they
do
not
care
whether
this
project
destroyed.
They
did
not
care
whether
this
project
destroyed
downtown
Asheville's
only
farmers
market
until
they
realized
it,
could
put
their
project's
approval
at
risk.
The
create
72,
Broadway
developers
made
a
mistake
and
not
recognizing
the
impact
their
project
would
have
on
the
60
vendors,
whose
livelihoods
depend
on
Asheville,
City
Market.
Today,
I
hope
you
will
hold
them
accountable
for
that
mistake.
AB
If
you
approve
this
project
today,
you
put
the
burden
on
market
organizers
to
make
sure
our
market
survives
by
denying
or
delaying
your
approval,
you
would
place
that
responsibility
on
the
hotel
developers
or
I
believe
it
belongs.
I
see
no
reason
why
the
work
of
finding
a
solution
can't
happen
during
a
moratorium.
I'm
sure
it
would
cost
create
72
Broadway
more
money
than
they
wish
to
spend
and
I
hope.
AB
A
AC
Good
afternoon
I'm
Dom,
creaseman
co-owner
of
Chrisman
farms
and
a
farm
vendor
at
the
Asheville
City
Market
for
ten
years
and
Counting
I
would
like
to
make
two
points
to
the
council.
Even
though
there
are
endless
reasons
why
council
should
vote
no
for
the
seventy
to
create
Broadway.
First
ASAP
and
previous
City
Council
have
worked
tirelessly
to
establish
a
market
for
farmers
and
customers
that
allows
people
in
the
city
and
surrounding
counties
fresh
nutritional,
affordable
food,
ace
F
was
able
to
secure
a
snap
EBT
grant
which
allows
snap
recipients
double
their
benefits.
AC
This
allows
them
to
get
two
times
the
fresh
fruits,
vegetables,
meats
and
eggs.
If
the
market
is
no
longer
able
to
meet
the
needs
of
the
underserved
of
this
city,
city
council
has
allowed
them
to
be
discriminated
against
by
allowing
development
rather
than
a
farmers
market.
We
know
this
program
works
because
our
snap
token
sales
have
increased
dramatically.
AC
City
Council
has
mandated
that
equity
and
inclusion
be
an
important
component
of
the
mission
of
the
city
market
and,
if
you
vote
in
favor
of
create
72
Broadway,
you
are
telling
your
city
that
you
would
rather
give
preference
to
developers
rather
than
the
people
who
live
and
work
here.
That
is
definitely
not
equity
and
inclusion.
Second,
let's
talk
economic
impact.
My
farm
supports
three
full-time
positions
and
eighteen
part-time
positions.
These
21
jobs
are
established
and
sustained
by
sales
at
Asheville
City
Market.
My
farm
is
only
one
of
60
vendors
who
participate
at
Asheville,
City
Market.
AC
So,
for
example,
if
you
have
60
vendors
and
if
each
have
four
employees,
that's
a
total
of
240
jobs
that
are
already
established
and
sustained
by
this
market.
The
create
72,
Broadway
website
says
it
creates
45
jobs.
You
all
can
do
the
math
20
versus
45
or
240
versus
45
city
council.
Please
remember
your
previous
councils
vision
for
Asheville
to
have
a
market
to
serve
local
farms
and
families
and
gives
all
people
access
to
fresh,
affordable,
local
produce,
meats
and
eggs.
AC
You
can
be
the
counsel
to
be
remembered
for
making
the
market
fraud
by
voting
no
for
create
72
Broadway
or
if
you
vote
against
the
market,
you
will
be
remembered
as
the
counsel
who
let
the
market
die.
I
challenge
all
city,
council
and
staff
to
come
to
the
market
on
Saturday
and
take
a
look
at
what
your
community
has.
I
am
a
third-generation
farmer,
and
my
children
are
the
fourth,
please
remember
a
farmer's
feed
you
three
times
a
day,
a
farmer
glad
you
and
our
farmer
present
aerials
to
hash.
AD
Hi,
my
name
is
Cheryl
Hanley
and
I
am
a
resident
of
Asheville
for
the
last
five
years
when
my
husband
and
I
visited,
we
enjoyed
the
farmers
markets
here
and
one
of
our
big
deciding
points
to
move
to
Asheville
was
quality
of
life
and
the
quality
of
available
food
I
am
totally
opposed
to
the
project
as
it
stands.
Right
now
and
I
have
a
question
one
of
the
things
that
I
believe
you
said
was
about
emergency
access.
AD
A
AD
If
you
drive
through
downtown
any
given
weekend,
you've
got
people,
sidewalks
are
full
streets,
are
full
people
are
walking
in
the
streets
dodging
across?
We
need
sidewalks,
we
need
crosswalks,
we
need
street
repairs
and
those
kinds
of
things
I
think,
should
be
a
focus
but
we'll
really
another
large
development.
Thank
you
and.
AE
AE
It's
evident
from
your
non
updated
documents
that
we
didn't
receive
this
updated
information
that
we
were
not
invited
to
the
table
during
this
process,
and
it
seems
like
many
other
parties
were
and
I
was
at
the
Planning
and
Zoning
meeting
when
the
footprint
of
the
market
was
displayed
incorrectly.
So
I
think
that
really
speaks
to
how
their
intentions,
while
they
may
be
good,
are
not
actually
truly
good,
while
their
impact
will
absolutely
be
negative.
AE
AE
The
market
is
a
unique
destination
in
Asheville
and
as
farmers
we
already
have
a
hard
enough
job
and
that's
why
there's
so
few
of
us
and
why
we're
all
getting
older
and
I
will
say
that
Asheville
City
I'm,
an
original
member
of
the
market
I
helped
on
the
creation
of
it,
and
it
was
because
farmers
didn't
have
enough
access
to
markets
like
in
a
good
urban
location
where
you
could
make
a
good
amount
of
income
from
it.
That's
why
this
market
was
created
and
I
will
say.
AE
This
market
has
created
space
for
new
and
beginning
farmers,
and
we
need
that
as
our
aging
population,
as
our
population
of
farmers
is
aging,
and
we
have
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
those
new
and
beginning
farmers
at
our
market,
which
is
unique
from
other
markets
in
Asheville,
because
we
provide
that
ax
point
and
we
provide
an
access
point
for
stable
and
reliable
income
pretty
immediately.
You
can
go
to.
V
AE
Of
the
more
outer
markets
in
Asheville
and-
and
you
cannot
make
that
revenue
there,
but
because
we
have
this
downtown
location
with
the
60
spaces,
you
need
that
capacity
to
make
it
a
destination
for
people
to
come
in
and
for
you
to
actually
make
a
decent
living.
I.
Also
reiterate
that
what
dawn
also
said
at
creaseman
farm,
the
city
of
Asheville
has
other
goals.
Besides
of
these
different
art,
goals
and
pedestrian
are,
and
these
different
things,
they
have
food
access
goals
and
our
market
provides
food.
AE
A
AF
My
name
is
Emily
Copas
and
I'm.
The
owner
of
Carolina
flowers,
I've
been
a
vendor
at
the
Asheville
City
Market
for
three
years,
and
I
am
here
tonight
to
ask
you
to
send
the
developer
back
to
the
drawing
board,
because
I
don't
think
that
they're
their
conditions
are
sufficient
to
address
the
traffic
problem
on
North
Market
Street,
while
the
market
is
operational,
but
I
am
also
here
tonight
to
commiserate
with
you,
because
you've
got
to
be
tired.
It
seems
like
every
couple
of
months
y'all
come
in
here
and
there's
a
developer
hotel,
somebody's
displacing
somebody.
AF
It's
the
Sheriff's
Department,
it's
the
Flatiron,
let's
create
something
to
do
market,
whatever.
There's
got
to
be
a
better
way
to
do
this
and
I
think
that
there
is
a
better
way
and
I
think
that
the
City
Market
is
a
perfect
way
to
test
it
out.
So
what
I'm
here
to
ask
you
to
do
tonight?
It's
just
basic
asset
management.
You
keep
the
things
in
your
community
that
are
already
working
using
the
tools
that
are
already
in
your
toolbox.
AF
It
could
be
exciting
for
city
staff,
it
could
be
exciting
for
City
Council
and
it
could
keep
us
from
doing
this
every
few
months
if
we're
able
to
sort
of
outline
what
our
assets
are
in
a
public
way
and
preserve
them
now,
I
can
hear
your
skepticism
I
can
hear
you
thinking.
If
we
do
this
for
you,
we
will
have
to
do
this
for
everyone,
but
I
want
to
say
that's
not
actually
true.
You
can
do
this
for
us
and
you
don't
have
to
do
it
for
everyone
and
here's.
AF
Why
here's
my
show
me
another
event
that
operates
almost
every
single
weekend
of
the
year.
We
take
a
couple
weeks
off
for
Christmas
and
one
week
off
from
New
Year's,
but
if
we're
not
on
the
street,
we're
inside
the
Masonic
Temple
show
me
another
event
that
supports
the
incomes
of
more
than
50
local
businesses
and
their
staff
show
me
another
event
that
promotes
social
equity
and
inclusion
by
matching
snap
dollars,
show
me
that
event
and
I
will
say
you
probably
should
use
the
or
zoning
ordinance
to
protect
them
too.
AF
There's
not
a
limit
on
who
you
can
protect.
Listen.
We
live
in
a
time
where
people
have
a
lot
of
skepticism
about
big
money,
big
development
and
what
they
can
buy.
I
think
that's
valid
and
I.
Think
people
have
asked
you
to
allay
those
concerns
by
hunting
some
of
these
development
proposals,
but
you
don't
have
to
exercise
your
power
just
by
hunting.
N
AG
Sorry
I
have
to
follow
that.
My
name
is
Rob
Pauline
and
I
own
property.
56,
Broadway
and
I
have
my
little
three
minutes,
but
everything's
been
changed
because
the
situation
has
changed
this
evening,
so
I
have
to
tweak
and
something
going
along
and
I.
Don't
do
that?
Well,
I
want
to
speak
about
the
alley.
It
is
already
very
congested.
AG
All
vehicles
entering
the
alley
either
have
to
back
up
into
the
alley
and
drive
out
straight
or,
conversely,
they
have
to
drive
down
the
alley
and
back
up.
It
is
it's
a
pain,
but
that's
how
you,
because
it's
a
narrow
and
congested
alley.
It
serves
as
the
service
entrance
for
a
number
of
businesses,
the
dumpster
there
is
working
on
momentum
gallery,
but
all
of
their
services,
all
their
elevators
for
servicing.
The
building
are
on
the
alley,
so
they
have
to
have
access
to
those
doors.
There
are
I
have
an
apartment
on
the
alley.
AG
AG
Perhaps
of
hearing
have
to
hearing
all
that
in
this
proposal
tonight
it's
gotten
even
weirder,
because
well
I
might
I
came
here
to
say
it
doesn't
make
sense
to
have.
We
have
to
deal
with
the
alley
and
the
people
live
on
it
and
the
people
that
work
on
it.
But
now
the
proposal
is
that
on
Saturday
mornings,
vehicular
traffic
can
be
going
down
the
alley
and
obviously
in
the
other
direction
as
well.
So
it
becomes
a
two-lane
alley
that
will
be
a
new
phenomenon
for
us
YouTube.
AG
We
may
be
interested
in
in
showing
how
that
works,
but
if
you've
got
people
that
are
having
access
to
the
hotel
and
the
hotel
is
giving
access
to
people
to
go
onto
the
alley
to
exit
it.
You've
got
a
problem,
and
that
doesn't
even
consider
the
fact
that
people
who
have
businesses
or
live
on
the
alley
will
want
to
be
able
to
have
access
to
their
buildings.
AG
So
if
people
I
have
this
image
about
ten
minutes
ago,
someone
coming
in
the
alley
going
to
the
hotel
and
someone
who
has
a
business
on
the
Alec
backing
up
and
that
true
will
be
an
interesting
event.
So
I
would
love
to
stand
and
I
just
also
thought
the
signage
signage
considerations
for
getting
people
around
and
in.
Oh
thank.
D
AH
Good
evening,
mayor
and
city
council
members,
my
name
is
dawn
Beck
and
I
like
to
share
three
different
/
three
different
experiences
with
you.
First
personal
I
moved
to
North
Carolina
from
California
about
26
years
ago,
I
drove
cross-country.
My
fondest
memory
was
driving
through
Asheville
on
I-40,
the
sky
was
blue,
leaves
were
falling
on
my
windshield.
It
was
a
true
hallmark
moment.
AH
Every
fall,
I
longed
to
return
to
Asheville,
to
celebrate
my
birthday,
it's
in
October,
but
the
cost
of
staying
here
is
prohibitive.
Why
the
demand
for
hotel
rooms
exceeds
the
supply
instead
of
using
my
heart
earned
dollars
in
Asheville,
where
I
would
help
local
businesses
and
generate
tax
dollars
for
local
causes.
My
money
goes
to
other
towns
where
hotel
rooms
are
inadequate
supply.
AH
Second,
experience
is
professional
on
the
commercial
real
estate
broker,
I
help
businesses
with
their
space
requirements.
The
first
step
in
finding
locations
to
open
a
new
office
store
factory
and/or
distribution
center
is
obtaining
a
company
site
selection
criteria.
Invariably,
those
checklists
include
proximity
to
hotels.
Why
businesses
rely
on
hotels
for
visiting
customers,
suppliers,
guests,
holding
off-site
meetings
and
to
house
potential
employees
when
they're
in
town
for
interviews
if
hotel
rooms
are
not
abundant
and
affordable
cities
are
not
considered
strong
candidates
for
corporate
relocations
and
bringing
jobs
at
all
skill
levels?
AH
Third
is
really
personal.
I
know
they
tell
family
well,
I've
known
them
for
about
ten
years,
they're,
honest
hard-working
people,
they
care
about
their
communities,
their
employees
and
the
projects
that
they
develop,
create
72
Broadway,
exemplifies
their
dedication
doing
what's
right,
including
accommodating
the
market
which
I
personally
enjoy,
as
does
probably
everybody.
G
AH
AH
A
AI
I'm
very
nervous,
my
name
is
Marcy
Lanier
I
sent
you
guys
all
an
email
thanks
to
Gwen,
recommending
that
I
own
willows
dream,
which
is
right
next
to
the
hotel.
I'm,
not
gonna,
really
even
talk
about
the
alley
which
we
use
every
single
day
and
it
is
an
absolute
nightmare.
You
cannot
get
a
vehicle,
it's
very
difficult
to
get
a
vehicle
bigger
than
my
Mini
Cooper
back
there
without
bumper
cars
and
it
happens
daily
cars
are
hit
constantly
because
the
space
is
so
little.
AI
So
that's
that
whatever
but
I
want
to
want
to
talk
about
is
my
database.
We
I
thought
we
had
five
thousand,
which
I
gave
you
all
an
email
saying.
We
have
5,000
people
database,
but
my
husband
who's.
The
business
end
said
we
have
six
to
eight
thousand
people
database
and
all
I
hear
every
day
constantly.
Are
people
worried
about
our
city,
worried
about
big
business
coming
in
here
and
changing
what
makes
Asheville
unique
and
amazing
and
why
people
actually
want
to
come
here?
They
don't
want
to
come
here
for
these
okay,
the
hotel
sounds
beautiful.
AI
It
does.
It
sounds
like
you
guys,
give
it
a
lot
of
work
and,
let's
put
it
in
the
outskirts:
oh
let's
put
it
somewhere,
that's
not
disrupting
our
amazing
downtown
I've
got
hairdressers
upstairs
wishing
they
could
get
into
this
room
that
are
here
as
well.
They're
worried
about
their
jobs,
they're,
worried
about
the
clients
not
coming
downtown
I've
lost
six
in
the
last
year
and
a
half
due
to
their
clients,
saying
they're
not
doing
it
anymore,
and
so
they
had
to
go
to
other
salons
where
they
knew
they
could.
Their
business
would
still
thrive.
AI
I've
been
in
business
for
15
years,
I'm
scared
to
death,
I
am
so
scared,
and
my
hairdressers
are
scared
and
our
clients
are
scared
like
what
is
happening
to
the
city.
We
are
unique.
We
are
amazing,
please
please
have
them
put
them
other
places,
they
don't
need
to
be
downtown.
We
have
so
many.
We
don't
need
any
more
hotels
downtown,
even
though
it
is
beautiful
and
I
am
about
the
Arts
Willis
dream.
We
have
murals
on
the
side
of
our
building.
We
love
the
Arts.
AI
We
love
affordable
housing
which,
what
did
they
say
three
for
rent
and
six
to
buy
out
of
all
of
the
people
that
need
affordable
housing.
That's
nothing.
I
have
employee
right
now
that
have
to
live
45
to
50
minutes
away,
because
I
can't
afford
to
live
in
this
city
so,
and
we
have
25
to
30
people
that
work
at
will.
The
stream
that
doesn't
add
up
at
all,
that's
one
business,
so
their
affordable
housing
is
going
to
help
me.
Do
them
nine
people
I,
don't
get
it.
It
doesn't
add
up.
Thank
you
very
much.
AJ
Hi
everybody
I
live
in
a
Richard,
sharp
Smith
building
right
across
the
street,
from
the
proposed
hotel
and
I'm.
For
it,
I
mean
we
have
a
parking
lot
there.
It's
not
gonna,
be
a
parking
lot
forever.
We
all
know
that
it's
gonna
be
something
I,
don't
know
these
people,
but
I
think
that
they've
bent
over
backwards
to
try
to
be
good
neighbors
and
give
us
something
we
can
all
live
with.
I
know:
there's
nothing
perfect
and
I
love
the
Saturday
market,
I
I
believe
it's
there
about
six
months
a
year.
AJ
I
may
not
be
welcome
anymore
at
the
market,
but
as
important
as
the
market
is
and
I
can't.
Imagine
that
it
can't
move
shift
a
half
a
block
some
way.
One
way.
Another
I
think
that
the
hotel
people
are
trying
to
bend
over
backwards
and
I
think
that
they'll
make
it
work.
They
they've
acted
like
they
want
to
make
it
work.
AJ
AK
My
name
is
art:
Myers
I'm,
the
resident
of
downtown
Asheville
and
I've
been
doing
real
estate
in
Western
North
Carolina
for
the
last
20
years.
I
think
this
is
a
fantastic
project,
but
I
also
think
if
it's
dependent
upon
using
that
alley
for
an
entrance
and
exit
the
chief
won't
work.
There's
got
to
be
some
other
solutions.
I
for
one
would
not
rent
a
home
or
a
hotel
or
buy
a
condo
where
I
had
to
look
for
someplace
else
to
park
on
Friday
night
and
most
of
Saturday.
AK
So
it
sounds
like
you've
relieved
yourself
with
the
responsibility
and
put
it
on
to
the
contractors
or
the
individuals
during
this
project,
but
this
you're
going
to
have
a
problem.
It's
not
just
an
opinion.
It's
a
fact:
it's
not
going
to
work
and
I
praise
the
people
that
are
putting
this
project
together.
They
are
doing
exactly
what
Asheville
needs.
This
is
a
right
combination
and
I
hope
that
they
can
find
a
place
to
do
it,
but
if
it's
dependent
upon
the
market,
leaving
I
think
they've
got
to
go
somewhere
else.
Thank
you.
Thank.
AL
D
AM
Tax-Friendly
I
didn't
come
here
because
I
came
here
because
I
visited
somebody,
I
moved
here
from
Baltimore
Maryland
I
lived
there
for
thirty
years.
I've
watched
these
processes.
I
was
up
in
the
overflow
room
and
I
have
no
script.
I
have
no
plans
speech,
but
after
watching
the
process,
I
thought
I
should
say
something:
growth
and
change
of
poorly
the
two
most
difficult
things.
You
can
probably
make
a
decision
on
in
Baltimore.
This
hearing
would
be
about
millions
of
dollars
of
tax
assessment
of
the
tax
abatements.
If
you
don't
have.
AM
AM
We
have
all
the
people
I
know
in
our
new
building,
there's
a
brand
new
condo
that
I
waited
a
year
and
a
half
for
spent
more
money
in
my
life
and
got
the
smallest
amount
of
space.
I
put
some
more
houses,
so
it's
not
cheap
living
in
Asheville,
but
there's
a
vibe
here.
You
can't
stop
the
growth
because
it
will
die.
AM
Eventually,
it's
like
cutting
the
roots
out
of
a
tree,
so
good
growth
I
will
give
you
one
example,
and
we
had
a
mayor
in
Baltimore,
wanted
a
hotel
if
the
Convention
Center
everybody
was
against,
it
floated
a
bond.
He
built
the
hotel.
Everybody
wanted
to
develop
the
East
part
of
the
harbor.
The
hotel
is
still
losing
five
million
dollars
a
year
and
the
East
harbors
booming
its
walkable
their
shops.
AM
There's
hotels
and
I
will
tell
you
that
I
just
try
to
get
a
room
for
friends
of
mine
coming
down
to
visit,
and
then
we
know
hotels
available,
so
they
have
to
stay
outside
the
city
losing
revenue,
but
once
again,
change
is
a
horrible
thing
for
a
lot
of
people.
It's
not
to
me
what
I'm
hearing
is
the
markets.
Minh
exists,
it's
just
a
matter
of
everybody's
afraid
of
losing
access,
but
when
you
have
people
living
there,
they're
gonna
go
to
the
market.
AM
Our
people
are
all
new
from
out
of
town
a
lot
of
them
and
they
walk
to
the
market
to
that
market
and
they
love
it.
So
if
you
had
more
people
with
access
to
the
market,
it
seems
to
me
the
market
would
flourish.
So
it's
not
my
decision
on
the
hotel
I'm
new
here,
but
it
seems
to
me
that
it
would
be
a
great
addition
to
Asheville.
AN
A
V
Thanks
for
having
me
I'm
earning
math
I'm,
a
local
artist,
I've
worked
on
a
few
citywide
art
projects
with
citywide
management
and
commissioners.
My
last
project
was
Isaac
Dixon
and
Hill.
Street
daycare
I've
worked
on
some
major
projects
with
mr.
n
wilkinson
I
think
he's
a
magnificent
and
any
opportunity
to
city
could
afford
him.
I
would
like
to
say
that
the
physical
functional
issues
can
be
worked
out.
V
It
seems
that
the
larger
the
remedy,
the
solutions
if
the
director
of
development
firm
Peter
average,
could
facilitate
more
local
artists,
pull
them
off
the
street
work
with
small
business
development.
I
think
that
that
would
outweigh
any
physical
functional
issues
that
you
may
have
was
just
like
parts
in
the
engine
of
a
car.
You
have
to
have
all
the
parts
there
in
order
to
work
out
the
function
of
them.
So
I
think
you
should
move
forward
with
the
project,
because
the
possible
remedy
that
it
offers
seems
to
outweigh
any
physical
function.
V
Issues
and
international
tariffs
seems
to
be
putting
farmers
out
of
business
completely,
who
you
don't
have
like
hundred
acre
farms
and
and
I
just
as
far
as
a
physical
building
blocking
well
just
facilitating
artist
gives
an
artist
the
opportunity
to
incorporate
vending
with
markets.
You
know
farmers,
markets
or
whatever
so
I
think
you
should
move
forward
with
it.
Thank
you,
sir.
AO
Monday
ms
Lucho
Gomez
and
I
am
for
the
approval
of
this
project.
I
think
this
project
will
set
a
standard
for
future
projects
that
are
coming
into
town
with
the
affordable
housing
and
including
the
art
I
think
it's
important
that
we
set
a
standard
right
now
before
future
hotels
come
in
and
I
think
this
one
will
do
that
pretty
clearly
and
we'll
be
taking
care
of
the
artists,
that's
hard
to
survive
as
an
artist
in
most
places,
and
if
we
don't
get
supported,
we
have
to
move
so
help.
Keep
us
here.
Thanks.
D
P
AP
Nina
yeah
she's
no
good
evening.
My
name
is
Julie
Gunn
and
I
want
to.
First
thank
all
of
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
this
evening.
I
am
a
vendor
at
the
Asheville
City
Market
and
some
of
our
very
eloquent
vendors.
They
should
be
doing
public
speaking
on
the
side,
because
they're
very
good
and
what
they
said
is
right
and
straight
to
the
point.
I
do
feel
I
had
a
whole
script
written,
but
of
course
I
can't
do
that,
because
we've
got
new
developments,
but
in
those
new
developments
they
were
done
at
the
last
minute.
AP
I've
worked
with
many
city
councils
across
the
country
and
zoning
building
and
zoning
groups,
and
it
was
clear
to
me
that
there
wasn't
much
emphasis
put
on
the
Asheville
City
Market.
We
will
be
displacing
60
vendors
and
there's
many
workers
that
are
attached
to
that,
and
we
also
are
like
one
of
you're.
One
of
the
other
people
said
we
are.
We
have
a
city
that
is
unique
and
you
are
all
here
to
make
sure
that
that
uniqueness
stays
in
place.
AP
AP
AP
We,
as
in
the
market
organizers,
have
been
trying
to
work
with
the
from
the
beginning
and
I
feel
and,
as
you
all
are,
very
qualified
individuals
are
able
to
look
in
and
see
that
it
was
not
part
of
their
big
picture.
There
isn't
any
way
that
you
can
use
that
le
way
with
theorists
there
Building
proposal
as
it
is
now,
it
will
not
work
and
then,
at
the
last
minute,
when
you
guys
are
wherever
you
are,
it's
not
your
problem.
Then.
If
we
approve
this,
what
then
will
happen
to
us?
AP
No
one
has
spoken
to
the
fact
that
there
will
be
at
least
three
three
years
of
work
done
on
that
building
my
spot
not
to
go
all
ego
on
you,
but
it's
right.
There,
I
have
three
children,
I,
have
hundreds
of
customers
that
visit
the
Asheville
City
Market
Mike
can
attest
to
that.
He
has
the
the
counts.
He
does
the
counts
every
single
week.
So
my
proposal
is
that
you
shelf
it
until
they
come
up
with
a
better
entrance
and
exit.
Thank
you
very
much.
D
AQ
Much-Ballyhooed
art
connection
here,
I
bow
to
nobody
in
my
support
for
the
Arts
and
artists
of
Asheville,
but
I
want
to
make
it
clear
that
to
live
work,
spaces
for
purchase
and
six
affordable.
Rentals
for
creatives
is
a
drop
in
the
bucket
out
of
what
is
a
total
of
165
lodging
and
residential
units.
I.
AQ
Admire
the
nod
to
the
creative
genius
that
is
Asheville
and
the
people
who
make
Asheville
exciting
place
to
visit
a
wonderful
place
to
shop
and
who
share
with
each
other,
their
creative
gifts,
I.
Think
it's
a
tremendously
important
part
of
our
community
and
I
love
the
notion
of
businesses,
not
just
giving
lip
service
to
this,
but
actually
empowering
the
people
who
do
this
kind
of
work.
I'm,
one
of
them
but
I,
think
it's
important
to
keep
a
perspective.
AQ
AQ
But
the
proposed
allotment
to
artists
and
creative
people
here
is
at
most
nine
units
out
of
138
total
spaces
for
human
beings
in
this
building
that
doesn't
income
include
the
retail
space
that
they're
proposing
and
whatever
other
amenities
that
they're
gonna
offer.
I
didn't
hear
anything
about
a
a
bar
or
restaurant.
AQ
But
who
knows
all
I
ask:
is
that
you
consider
the
proportionality
of
this
I
love
the
idea
of
encouraging
developers
to
make
space
for
to
accommodate
and
to
promote
and
hire
artists
I
think
it's
incredibly
important,
but
I
ask
you
to
consider
who
will
determine
who
counts
as
a
creative
for
these
affordable
rentals
and
what
ongoing
commitment
is
actually
in
place
from
the
developers.
Thanks
for
your
time,.
D
V
AR
AR
Bob
Deutsch
and
myself
bought
this
property
10
years
ago
intending
to
find
a
developer
partner,
who
agreed
with
our
vision
to
create
something
we
could
be
proud
of
as
long-term
residence
and
downtown
property
owners
and
downtown
workers.
Bob's
law
firm
and
my
real
estate
company
have
been
located
on
the
corner
at
75
North
Market
Street.
For
30
years
we've
been
working
with
the
current
developer
and
VP
our
properties
for
over
a
year
and
a
half
to
develop
something
we
believe
would
meet
all
the
criteria
and
satisfy
all
the
elements.
AR
The
city
was
looking
for:
a
multi-use
project
consisting
of
condo
units,
rental
units,
low-income
housing,
retail
units
office
units,
together
with
the
hotel,
also
tying
together
a
wide
public
walkway
full
of
local
art
from
Market
Street
to
Broadway.
That
would
also
tie
in
with
the
new
arts
and
crafts
center
being
created
just
across
the
street
on
Broadway
they've
gone
through
the
process
of
the
downtown
Commission
and
conformed
to
their
request,
the
PNC
Commission,
conforming
to
their
request
and
obtaining
unanimous
approval
from
them.
AR
They've
spent
a
ton
of
money
on
lawyers,
engineers
and
architects
revising
plans
over
and
over
in
an
attempt
to
cooperate
with
the
Commission's
that
had
to
approve
it
each
time
making
the
project
and
even
better
one
for
the
city.
The
entrance
to
downtown
Asheville
off
of
us
240
onto
Broadway
is
currently
not
very
inviting.
You
first
see
some
old
small
buildings.
Then
you
see
the
old
medical
laundry
building.
Then
you
come
straight
at
our
parking
lot
in
the
a
lodge
parking
lot.
This
project
would
create
a
beautiful
building
on
scale
with
surrounding
properties.
AR
AR
In
addition
to
the
two
curb
cuts
too
tired
one-story
buildings
on
Market
Street,
one
of
which
looks
like
a
Quonset
hut
and
neither
of
which
have
any
historical
significance
and
our
parking
lot
with
35
spaces,
all
three
properties
border,
a
wooden
stairway
into
the
end
of
an
alley
that
is
regularly
frequented
by
beer
and
wine,
drinkers,
junkies,
shooting
up
and
graffiti
artists,
all
of
whom
leave
a
mess.
Every
night
that
becomes
the
obligation
of
the
property
owners
to
clean
up.
Thank.
I
AR
A
AS
Hello,
thank
you
very
much
for
serving
on
the
council,
so
I'm
the
other
owner
of
the
Broadway
parking
lot
and
we
bought
this
property
in
about
ten
years
ago.
The
idea
was
that
we
were
going
to
develop
it
and
then
2008
occurred
and
we've
been
basically
carrying
it.
Ever
since
then,
we've
looked
around.
We
have
found
a
very
good
developer,
who
has
basically
complied
with
everything
that
the
city
has
asked
and
I
guess
that's
my
main
point.
AS
You
know
that
I'd
like
to
make,
which
is
that
you
have
you've,
heard
lots
of
good
things
about
this.
This
project
and
the
reason
those
are
in
there
is
that
the
developer
has
the
right
intention
and
he
has
listened
to
what
the
city
staff
and
the
city
peoples
said
about
what
they
wanted
and
so
to
me,
you
get
into
a
and
issue
of
what
is
this
board
doing
when
it
lets
a
developer
in
good
faith?
AS
Spend
all
this
money
spend
all
this
time
and
all
this
process
to
develop
a
nice
project
like
this,
and
then
some
people
come
in.
They
don't
like
it
because
there
are,
the
farmers
market
might
have
to
move
further
up.
The
the
street
I
go
to
the
farmers
market
a
lot.
It's
really
nice,
it's
great,
but
it
could
easily
move
50
feet
up
the
street
and
not
be
affected
at
all
right
now.
It
does
not
come
all
the
way
down
to
Woodson
Street,
either
and
I.
AS
Think
the
developer
clearly
recognizes
that
it's
it's
an
amenity
to
the
building
and
he'd
like
to
work
with
it.
So
I
think
you
should
give
him
the
chance.
You
know
we're
we're
private
property
owners
and
we
are
entitled
to
develop
our
property
we're
entitled
to
sell
it.
Sometimes
people
don't
like
that.
AS
Okay,
sorry
but
I
think
we're
entitled
to
have
a
nice
development
and
we
will
have
a
nice
one.
I've
been
in
that
office
for
30
years
that
office
that
that
corner
that
end
of
North
Market
Street
has
a
lot
of
issues
with
it.
I
had
a
fight
outside
of
my
office,
the
other
day
where
someone
came
through
the
the
plate-glass
window
in
my
office.
AS
AT
If
this
was
the
standard
volunteer,
inclusionary
zoning
and
a
green
roof
and
public
art
and
a
teeny
bit
of
housing
and
sidewalks
could
have
been
cool,
but
it's
too
late
and
I
buy
eggs
and
groceries
without
plastic
direct
from
farmers
and
baked
goods
from
the
people,
because
I
can't
in
this
room
is
I
can
take
the
bus
there.
So
I
want
to
just
also
say
that
the
split
zoning
for
Emma
Road
is
very
similar
to
what
Emily's
talking
about.
AT
AT
We're
gonna
go
behind
closed
doors
for
the
next
year,
and
the
next
group
of
leaders
will
be
responsible
for
upholding
the
decisions
that
you
make
around
development
next,
but
I
stood
up
today,
because
I
serve
on
the
Metro
modal
and
I
was
in
the
room
for
the
downtown
Commission,
and
this
is
these
are
groups
of
volunteers
who
give
to
show
up
once
a
month
and
do
a
whole
bunch
of
homework
to
advise
our
keynotes.
All
for
free
and
I
don't
see
our
advisement
in
the
staff
of
word.
The
right-of-way
closure
wasn't
clearly
defined.
AT
We
were
promised
the
tone
of
the
conversation
we
have
would
be
carried
forward
up
and
confirm
that
it
has
it,
which
means
not
only
are
we
hitting
artists
and
farmers
are
getting
against
each
other.
Our
staff,
our
neighbors,
that
our
staff
are
in
this
conversation
too,
and
if
that
ami
of
60%
is
going
to
keep
going
up
and
up
as
the
wage
gap
increases,
then
that's
going
to
move
farther
and
farther
and
farther
away
from
what
the
people
that
I
know
the
create
can
afford.
AT
U
Right,
my
name
is
Daniel
Stewart
I've
been
here,
came
to
Asheville
ten
years
ago,
I'm,
a
residential
property
owner
and
a
commercial
property
owner
over
on
Haywood,
Road
and
I've
really
admired.
But
his
passion
here
and
I
want
to
step
back
and
speak
more
conceptually
versus
the
single
issues
that
were
confronting.
U
So
in
the
past
ten
years.
There's
no
denying
we've
seen
tons
of
growth
and
tons
of
change
in
this
town.
I
know
that
when
I
Drive
in
a
downtown
I'm,
just
as
guilty
as
most
ash
villians
and
lamenting
the
tourists
and
the
parking
situation
as
such
to
the
point
where
my
girlfriend
now
tells
me
I'd,
do
it
without
even
realizing
it's
just
a
habit.
I
think.
But
growth
is
gonna,
continue
to
happen
and
I
was
very
enthusiastic.
U
When
I
read
the
first
proposal
for
this
and
saw
what
these
gentlemen
were
putting
forth
and
what
direction
they
wanted
to
set
for
our
city
and
I.
Think
it's
the
right
one
going
forward
and
having
more
affordable
housing
would
be
great.
I
know
it's
small,
but
it's
a
move
in
the
right
direction
and
maybe
a
way
to
start
more
projects
that
incorporate
that
stuff
down
the
road.
So
thank
you.
A
AU
AU
AU
AU
Saturday
mornings
are
the
busiest
time
for
pedestrian
traffic
in
downtown
Asheville.
The
alleyway
is
already
difficult
to
maneuver
and
promises
and
verbal
agreements
about
how
operations
will
work
often
fall
by
the
wayside.
Once
projects
are
approved,
I
urge
City
Council
to
represent
the
business
owners
and
the
residents
who
have
placed
enormous
faith
and
money
in
support
of
downtown
for
decades.
We
have
contributed
to
the
economy
and
helped
make
Asheville
an
awesome
place
to
live
and
to
work
and
to
visit
it.
AU
AV
AU
A
AV
AV
AV
The
review
of
any
consistency
of
guidelines
that
serve
the
public
interest.
Well,
we
I
feel
that
the
public's
interest
is
you
know
has
been
has
been
made
very
clear
here
and
although
the
the
hotel's
efforts
to
comply
with
visions
of
the
city
and
the
art
and
the
green
space,
etc,
etc,
it's
minimal
at
best
and
I
feel
like
it's.
They
just
work,
it's
just
more
of
you
know
creating
an
image
that
they
want.
You
to
see.
I
think
you
should
delay
until
you
can
actually
get
a
codified
plan
in
the
ordinance.
A
AW
I
would
say
good
afternoon,
but
it's
good
evening.
My
name
is
Larry.
Holt
I
came
to
Asheville
in
1972.
I
got
here
as
fast
as
I
could
and
have
certainly
enjoyed
being
in
Asheville,
and
it's
seen
a
lot
of
changes.
I
remember
and
some
of
you
may
remember
when
the
farmers
market
was
on
Lexington
Avenue
a
viable
business
and
I
lived,
downtown
I've
been
a
property
owner
downtown
for
24
years.
I've
been
a
resident
downtown
on
Haywood
Street
for
13
years
and.
AW
AW
AW
I
know
the
designers
and
I
know
the
people
in
the
market
and
certainly
the
he
lives
in
the
crest
building
and
I
I
know
him
very
well
see
him
all
the
time
and
I
really
believe
that
these
folks
can
reach
an
agreement
to
solve
problem
we're
talking
about
six
hours.
One
day
a
week
as
I
said,
I
live
on
Haywood
Street.
My
personal
garage
is
off
the
alley
between
the
Rankin
Street
parking
garage
and
the
back
of
the
building,
Urban
Outfitters,
Woolworths
and
I.
Guess
then,
oh
my
bad,
my
front
door,
Ben
&
Jerry's.
AW
We
share
that
alley
and
there
don't
lose
there
and
again
it's
a
it's
a
well
depending
on
who
has
to
spend
the
money,
it's
a
private
alley
or
a
public
alley,
and
that
the
debate
continues.
We
work
it
out.
We
work
it
out
because
I
have,
if
somebody's
got
me
blocked,
I
can't
get
out
if
somebody's
blocking
me
and
I'm
out
I
can't
get
in.
AW
We
work
it
out
and
I
think
that
we're
talking
about
reasonable
people
here
and
you
can
certainly
make
it
a
condition
that
they
do
work
it
out,
because
it's
a
we
can
hit
two
cars
by
it's
the
problem.
You
have
it's
illegal
parking
in
the
alley
and
that
can
be
addressed.
I
really
think
this
is
a
good
prize.
Thank
you.
AW
A
AX
AX
Apologize
for
my
flip-flops
but
I
have
a
broken
foot,
so
I
wore
flip-flops,
because
one
foots
bigger
now
there,
but
in
case
you
didn't
notice,
I,
don't
have
a
dog
in
this
race
I'm
not
opposed
to
development
in
Nashville.
Oh
I
think
it's
unfortunate.
If
that
farmers
market
gets
this
place.
I
think
what
I'm
here
to
say
is
there
might
be
a
better
way
like
I
didn't
know
this.
This
project
was
happening.
I
feel
like
I,
just
here
thought.
AX
AX
Better
way
for
us
all
to
get
together
as
a
community
and
discuss
what's
happening,
because
the
development
downtown
has
happened,
happening
rapidly.
I
live
downtown
for
15
years
and
I
used
to
know
it
pretty
well,
but
all
in
all
these
situations
there's
a
solution.
I
think
somebody
wants
to
develop
a
forty
million
dollar
project
in
the
city.
It's
kind
of
hard
to
turn
it
down,
but
at
the
same
point
you
know
locals
are
getting
that
greatly
affected
and
I'm,
not
saying
that
I
have
that
solution.
AX
What
I
am
saying
is
do
a
couple
other
projects
and
I've
talked
with
some
people
about.
There
might
be
a
better
way
that
we
can
create,
like
a
community
table
or
community
drawing
board,
to
bring
some
of
this
stuff
together,
because
I
didn't
even
know.
This
was
happening
like
I
feel,
like
most
of
us
are
blindsided
by
all
this
development.
AX
My
concern
is
over
the
last
one,
but
I
do
have
some
things
that
I'll
share
with
you
I'll,
send
it
to
you
on
email
about
maybe
better
ways
that
these
developers
before
they
spend
all
this
money
on
these
projects
can
communicate
with
the
city,
get
input
feedback,
there's
other
things
that
we
need.
I
think
the
last
development
they
talked
about.
Perhaps
building
some
extra
bus
stops
and
some
parks
and
they
Walker
like.
AX
D
AX
Don't
have
a
dog
in
that
race
I,
don't
care
if
you're,
building
a
stairway
to
heaven
made
out
of
gold.
Somebody's
gonna
complain
about
it,
so
it
doesn't
matter
I'm
just
saying
if
we
had
a
community
table
where
maybe
people
of
other
people
in
the
community
who
have
ideas
and
that
are
creative
to
come
and
discuss
these
ideas
with
these
developers
before
they
drop.
AX
Who
knows
how
much
it
costs
to
do
all
this
work
and
get
feedback
are
the
things
that
we
really
do
need
as
a
community,
because
there's
a
lot
of
other
things
that
we
need.
Besides
breweries,
restaurants,
ice
cream
shops
and
hotels,
clothing
stores,
they're
all
great
there.
They
really
are,
and
for
me,
and
what
I
want
to
do
in
Asheville.
It
benefits
me
so
I,
don't
I'm
not
complaining
about
it,
but
I
think
that
it
would
be
good
if
there
is
a
different
community
forum
other
than
a
City
Council
meeting.
AX
L
Hi,
my
name
is
Jonathan
Wainscott
I
know
that
you
guys
are
tired,
talking
about
hotels
and
once
again,
this
is
all
about
how
much
money
we
spend
on
promoting
Nashville
as
a
destination
tourist
tourist
destination.
Twenty
six
million
dollars.
Last
year,
the
woman
who
came
up
early
in
the
conversation
and
said
that
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
told
her
that
25
percent
of
that
goes
to
infrastructure.
Of
course,
isn't
true.
It
all
goes
to
tourism
in
some
form
or
fashion,
seventy-five
percent
of
it
towards
the
direct
promotion
of
tourism.
L
Then
we
get
another
hotel
online
and
we've
got
more
hotel
rings.
That
goes
into
the
hotel
taxes,
more
hotel
tax
to
spend
on
promoting
more
and
it's
a
positive
feedback
loop,
the
same
as
the
polar
ice
caps
melting
because,
though,
there's
less
reflective
ice,
more
dark
water,
collecting,
more
heat,
melting,
more
ice
and
on
and
on
I
know
it's
not
in
your
wheelhouse
to
deal
with
the
hotel
occupancy
tax.
It's
a
law,
but
actually
the
law
is
the.
You
know
our
request
to
be
able
to
have
said
hotel
tax.
L
L
They
can
give
you
the
finger
that
you
are
going
to
be
giving
to
the
legislature
too.
So
it's
just
a
positive
feedback
loop
of
just
terrific
management.
It's
just
terrible!
It's
it's!
It's
so
sad
to
see
what
this
town
has
become.
I
moved
here
21
years
ago,
I,
don't
know
what
you
guys
are
gonna
do,
but
you're
gonna
get
more
hotels
because
we
got
more
money
to
spend
on
it.
L
We
don't
even
have
the
heiress
on
line
yet
thirty
million
dollars,
probably
next
year,
our
city
school
budgets,
thirty
five
million
dollars-
where
are
the
priorities
of
this
community
and
I?
Know
it's
not
your
fault.
You
can't
continue
to
let
people
think
that
some
of
this
money
is
going
to
infrastructure
when
it's
not
it's
not
not
not
at
all
those
infrastructure.
AA
L
D
A
AY
D
AY
And
the
mayor
for
taking
time
away
from
your
families
in
your
business
and
your
personal
interest
to
sit
in
such
a
hot
seat,
making
decisions
that
are
very
difficult
to
make,
but
I
know
that
this
is
a
personal
interest
to
you,
because
it
impacts
the
local
economy
and,
most
importantly,
its
people.
The
only
opposition
that
I
have
been
able
to
surmise
substantially
in
this
discussion
is
in
the
city,
market
and
I.
AY
Don't
quite
understand
that,
with
the
exception
of
a
few
naysayers
of
hotels,
which
I
think
we
will
always
hear
in
Asheville,
there
are
300
to
350
people
that
are
going
to
pour
out
of
this
mixed-use
development
down
into
the
streets
to
fuel
the
fire
of
that
city
market.
That's
going
to
buy
the
food,
that's
going
to
buy
the
products
and
then
come
back
again.
AY
There's
a
hundred
new
jobs
being
created
by
this
developer.
That's
spending
nearly
50
million
dollars
on
the
north
end
of
our
city.
That's
something
to
consider
heavily
in
this
decision.
This
is
really
an
issue
of
responsible
development,
there's
a
clearly
defined
path
to
vetting,
responsible
development
and,
according
to
the
prior
submittals,
two
committees
charged
with
vetting
the
project.
AY
This
being
the
case,
the
community
is
very
interested
in
how
this
application
is.
Does
it
meet
the
requirements?
Yes,
does
it
unfairly
displace
property
owners?
No,
not
only
no
but
property
owners,
one
of
their
antiquated
buildings
replaced
and
gladly
have
signed
off
with
the
developer
and
have
spoken
here
and
support
this
project.
AY
There's
broken
bottles,
beer
cans,
drug
paraphernalia,
clothes,
underwear
and
other
items
too
inappropriate
to
mention
in
this
public
venue,
including
homeless
folks,
that
are
sleeping
alongside
that
alley
at
night,
and
this
is
every
night
ask
that
you
support
this
project
and
not
penalize
the
developer
for
a
year
and
a
half
of
work
that
they've
done
with
it.
Name
is
Shannon
Van,
Etten,
land
of
sky,
regional
center.
AZ
Hi
thanks
I'll
keep
this
very
short.
My
name
is
Kate
Hanford
I'm
with
the
city
market
and
I
would
just
like
to
ask
that
you
please
delay
your
decision
at
the
proposal
before
the
City
Council
this
evening
has
elements
that
have
been
very
rushed
and
does
not
ensure
the
ongoing
existence
of
the
Asheville
City
Market.
There
are
just
too
many
unknowns
regarding
the
use
of
the
alleyway
I.
Ask
that
you
send
the
developer
back
to
the
drawing
board
to
hopefully
find
a
realistic
solution
that
could
safeguard
the
market.
A
A
D
R
The
earrin
five-
that's
plenty
and
I
just
want
to
adjust
some
things
up
her
and
and
really
just
boils
down
to
it.
I
think
two
issues,
but
there's
some
things:
I
don't
want
to
make
sure
that
are
corrected
and
the
first
is
the
low
paying
job
we
have
a
living
wage
attached
to
this.
The
second
thing
is
I
want
to
remind
us.
This
is
a
project
for
local
artists
by
local
artists,
giant
murals,
living
roofs,
I
mean
I,
can't
imagine.
Other
cities
dealing
with
projects
like
this
being
proposed.
R
Third,
is
the
Disneyland
comment
and
within
two
blocks
this
you
have
millions
being
spent
on
the
more
of
them
Center
millions
being
spent
on
the
newly
renovated
Asheville
Art
Museum,
the
Center
for
craft
creativity
and
design,
the
Masonic
temples,
programming,
national
community
theatre,
private
galleries,
you're
in
an
Arts
District,
and
this
hotel
is
looking
to
be
the
centerpiece
of
that
and
I.
Think
that's
a
good
thing.
Also.
We
haven't
said
anything
really
about
the
affordable
housing
piece.
R
We
heard
Dion
Nelson
from
Laurel
Street
residence
will
talk
to
us
last
week
and
give
us
real
facts
and
figures,
and
quoting
from
that
20
percent,
affordable
housing
at
60%
ami
does
not
pencil
out.
It
doesn't
work
that
map
doesn't
work
without
subsidies.
Yet
here
these
folks
are
proposing
to
put
24
percent
of
their
live
units
at
affordable
housing,
60%
ami
they're,
putting
2
million
dollars
of
investment,
not
donating
it
to
a
fund
but
actual
actually
building
buildings
that
are
going
to
be
inhabited
by
our
residents.
R
That
leads
me
to
the
last
two
pieces,
which
are
the
two
biggest
pieces.
If
I
go
over
I'd
like
to
have
like
a
minute,
because
I
think
I've
got
hopefully
a
solution,
it
that
maybe
works
for
what
I'm
hearing
being
suggested
and
the
first
one
is
this
continued
livelihood
and
lifeblood
of
the
Farmers
Market?
Let
me
make
it
very
clear:
this
project
is
looking
to
enhance
the
farmers
market
and
not
impact
it
in
any
way
whatsoever.
R
During
the
market
there
is
no
entrance
onto
Market
Street
9.
There
is
none
during
construction
we
had
put
in
a
condition,
and
we
tried
to
make
it
more
simple
and
more
clear.
That
said,
it
will
not
disrupt
the
market
during
construction.
I
asked
for
that.
We
were
asked
for
some
clarification
on
that,
and
so
let
me
be
more
clear,
we're
willing
to
put
in
a
condition
that
says
there
will
be
no
outside
construction
on
the
project
during
market
hours
period.
R
It
won't
happen
during
market
hours
period.
We
love
the
market,
we
love
what
the
market
does
for
our
city.
We
love
that
our
patrons
are
ones
that
live
there,
ones
that
frequent
there
in
terms
of
visitors
are
going
to
use
that
market
directly
and
then
indirectly
those
restaurant
tours
that
go
in
are
award-winning
chefs
that
go
down
there
every
weekend
and
buy
the
stuff
who
buys
it
in
the
restaurants.
The
people
staying
at
those
those
hotels
last
thing
is
when
we
fix
the
no
interruption
of
the
market
issue.
R
We
inadvertently
create
this
alley
issue
and
let's
be
clear
about
that,
someone
was
mentioning
the
hours.
Let's
say
that
hours
are
7
heck,
let's
say
they're
10
hours
during
the
week.
In
terms
of
setup
breakdown
in
the
actual
market
out
of
168
hours,
that's
something
like
6%
of
the
hours
in
a
week
where
we're
dealing
with
the
alley
issue
and
then
we're
only
dealing
with
it
in
terms
of
getting
in
and
out
it's
not
a
regular
thoroughfare.
R
It's
just
not
it's
not
meant
to
be
it's
not
designed
to
be
nothing
contemplates
that
being
a
regular
thoroughfare.
So
we're
talking
about
a
very
finite
amount
of
time,
one
day
a
week
for
10
hours
max
and
what
are
other
areas
in
around
town
where
we
have
those
same
kinds
of
issues.
We
have
trash
cans
on
the
street
that
stay
out
a
lot
longer
than
that.
R
We
have
skinny
streets
over
in
Montfort
where
I
live,
where
you
don't
Park
on
one
side
of
the
road
on
Tuesdays,
because
that's
when
the
trash
comes,
so
everybody
moves
their
car
that
day.
These
are
things
that
happen
when
you
have
a
vibrant
community
and
I
can't
believe
that
I'm
even
having
these
conversations
in
1989
when
I
was
at
unc-asheville
would
come
downtown
and
there
was
nothing.
There
was
nothing-
and
here
we
are
talking
about
a
50
million
dollar
project
that
includes
affordable
housing
that
incorporates
art
and
it
has
a
living
roof.
R
I
think
this
is
what
we
what
we
need
now
I
told
you
I
was
gonna,
give
you
a
proposed
solution.
The
thing
I
heard
now
tried
to
make
it
very
clear
about
the
market
in
the
alley
piece,
and
this
issue
came
up
late
and
it
there's
by
no
fault
of
anyone.
The
maps
that
were
staffer
using
did
not
show
the
market
going
down
that
far
when
it
came
up
at
pnz.
R
All
of
a
sudden
there's
the
issue
now,
there's
a
dialogue
dialogues
happen
with
the
market
dialogues
happening
with
the
business
owners
along
that
alley,
and
that's
only
recently
happened
since
July
and
we're
in
summer
season.
Yadda,
yadda
yadda,
but
we're
here
and
I
hear
those
folks
and
we
want
to
make
sure
they
understand
that
there
would
be
no
impact
on
the
market.
None
and
to
do
that.
Maybe
there's
another
conversation
that
needs
to
be
had.
We
have
a
two-week
window
where
we
can
have
that
and
be
on
the
next
City
Council
agenda.
R
Just
if
that's
where
counsel
is
heading,
then
we
are
absolutely
willing
and
requesting
a
continuance
of
this
hearing.
So
we
can
have
that
discussion
with
the
market
to
make
sure
they're
clear
what
our
intentions
are
and
what
the
conditions
need
to
be,
and
then
that
subsequent
issue
that
arises
from
that
discussion
with
the
ally
owners.
P
V
P
Is
mr.
Allen
said,
regardless
of
how
you
feel
about
this
project
and
regardless
of
the
number
of
affordable,
how
you
nuts
and
it
may
seem,
based
on
the
workshop
we
had
last
week,
the
the
inclusion
of
any
sort
of
affordable
housing
at
20%
at
60%
ami
is
is
a
pretty
important
step.
It's
not
something
we
typically
see
and
it's
something
that
I
think
the
the
developer
should
be
should
be
commended.
For
you
know,
I
also.
P
Based
on
those
of
you
who
are
concerned
about
affordable
housing,
as
all
of
us
are
in
the
city,
the
fact
that
this
property
would
generate
almost
half
a
million
dollars
a
year
in
taxes
is
also
an
important
thing,
and
it's
not
something
to
be
overlooked.
That
said
where
my
concern
is
about,
this
is
not
necessarily
on
the
market
with
all
due
respect
to
the
folks.
Here,
it's
more
of
a
concern
about
the
saturation
of
hotel
rooms.
Downtown
I
have
voted
for
hotels,
downtown,
I,
voted
for
for
two
projects,
downtown
one
on
Biltmore,
Avenue.
P
Part
of
those
reasons
were
the
one
on
the
Biltmore
Avenue
was,
was
a
project
that
we
really
serve
a
mission
health
in
my
mind,
with
respect
to
another
one
on
Biltmore
Avenue.
It
was,
and
the
other
two,
including
the
Flatiron
donators,
were
ways
of
preserving
preserving
buildings
and
preserving
their
store,
abilities,
I
other.
P
F
So
I
I
share
Vijay's
concerns
and
echo
some
of
the
the
good
things
what
he
said
about
the
good
things
about
this
project.
There
are,
there
are
many
and
but
I
also
do
share
the
concerns
about
the
concentration
of
rooms.
Downtown
I
would
add
to
that
that
I
I
do
have
serious
concerns
about
the
access
issues
and
I
think
that
conditions
that
are
in
the
wording
that
are
in
that's
in
the
b1
conditions
right
now
is
is
not
sufficient.
F
It
doesn't
to
me
guarantee
that
there
won't
be
a
a
collision
of
interests
after
this
project
is
built,
that
is,
that
is
not
resolvable
by
by
between
and
among
the
hotel,
their
guests,
their
residents,
the
market
and
the
people
who
own
property
along
and
use
that
alley.
So
I
am
also
going
to
be
a
no
vote
and
I
have
a
motion
to
make
if,
at
the
appropriate
time,.
A
I
first,
thank
you
all
for
coming
tonight
and
thank
you
for
staying
so
long.
These
meetings
can
be
really
long.
I
want
to
say
that
I
love
the
market.
I
am
an
avid
market.
Goer
I
go
every
single
Saturday
and
now
that
everybody
knows
about
it,
I
have
to
get
there
a
tour
I'm,
not
getting
any
lettuce.
So
I
do
go
to
the
North
North
Asheville
anse,
a
little
closer
to
me
and
I
really
do
think
that
our
market
markets
in
Asheville
are
become
such
an
integral
part
of
our
community
and
it's
it's
absolutely
wonderful.
A
I
do
think
we
have
to
figure
out
how
to
coexist
and
grow
in
a
way
that
we
can
all
withstand
and
enjoy
I.
You
know
I
the
gentleman
from
Baltimore
really
rung
true
with
me.
I
do
spend
time
talking
to
mayor's
across
the
country,
and
there
are
cities
that
would
be
paying
incentives
for
a
project
like
this.
They
would
be
rolling
out
the
red
carpet
they
would
be.
A
They
would
be
helping
to
finance
debt
for
something
like
this,
so
we
we
are
in
a
way
in
a
fortunate
position
to
be
able
to
be
picking
through
the
folks
that
want
to
invest
in
our
community
and
the
farmers
who
participate
in
the
market
have
invested
our
community.
They
have
to
spend
money
too
and
have
staff
and
bring
their
product
to
market
people
who
want
to
invest
in
our
community
building
housing
or
hotels
or
businesses
are
investing
our
community
and
I.
Don't
weigh
one
against
the
other.
A
P
A
Them
so
please
put
that
on
your
phone
and
then
also
you'll
be
able
to
report
down
trees
potholes
those
sorts
of
things
as
well.
Also,
we
do
have
a
new
notification
system
so
that
you
can
sign
up
for
alerts
to
hear
about
every
single
project
that
has
to
go
through
of
a
certain
size
that
has
to
go
through
our
planning
department.
You'll,
get
an
email
and
I'll
tell
you
all
about
it,
even
if
it's
not
big
enough
to
have
to
come
to
Council,
so
we're
trying
to
develop
system
so
that
you
can
hear
about
it.
A
A
One
of
the
things
that
happens
when
you
get
elected
to
a
city
council
is
you
have
an
opportunity
to
go
to
all
these
conferences
where
you
listen
to
all
these
experts,
about
land
planning
and
etc
and
so
forth,
and
one
of
the
things
they'll
always
tell
you
is
in
a
growing
city.
No
surface
lot
should
be
left.
No
surface
lot
should
be
left
now.
I
know
for
the
growing
pains
that
we're
experiencing
in
Asheville
a
lot
of
people
don't
want
to
hear
that,
but
growth
is
happening
in
our
state.
A
We're
one
of
the
fastest
growing
states,
we're
not
even
the
fastest
growing
city
in
this
state,
but
not
by
a
long
shot.
Charlotte
and
Raleigh
are
growing
much
faster,
so
we,
but
we
have
to
figure
out
a
way
to
grow
in
a
way
that
makes
sense
for
us
and
sprawling
out
is
probably
not
a
great
option.
Given
the
beauty
of
the
place
that
we
live
in,
I
also
want
to
make
clear
that
you
know,
while
I
mentioned
in
Baltimore,
they
may
have
to
provide
incentives
for
hotels.
Asheville
does
not
do
that
hotels.
A
Don't
we
do
have
economic
development
incentive.
We
have
a
program
for
that,
but
hotels
never
meet
the
threshold
requirements,
so
they
don't
receive
any
kind
of
an
son
of
financially
in
in
coming
to
Asheville
and
then
also
tonight.
You
heard
a
lot
about
and
I
think
a
lot
of
folks
that
live
here
and
learning
a
lot
more
about
this,
that
we
have
a
separate
independently
created
tourism
development
authority
that
was
statutorily
created
long
ago
in
the
80s
when
Derek
was
talking
about
how
downtown
was
dead.
A
That
was
when
that
happened,
and
now
we're
seeing
the
fruits
of
that-
and
maybe
it's
too
fruitful,
but
that
is
a
direct
result
of
that
legislation
being
put
in
place
in
the
eighties.
All
that
money,
the
twenty
six
million,
that
the
room
tax
generates,
which
is
also
from
Airbnb
and
we're
now
the
highest
per
capita
Airbnb
in
the
country,
goes
to
the
Tourism
Development
Authority,
which
has
to
spend
seventy
five
percent
of
that
on
advertising
Asheville
outside
of
Buncombe
County.
So
we
do
have.
A
A
I
just
went
to
my
30-year
reunion
from
Asheville
high
class
of
1989
and
people
came
in
from
all
over
the
country
that
don't
live
here
anymore,
and
it
struck
me
how
many
people
left
Asheville
in
1989,
because
there
wasn't
a
lot
of
opportunity
here
and
I
think
you
know
now
there's
more
opportunity,
but
there's
an
imbalance
of
opportunity
so
well
I.
Think
overall,
things
have
been
positive
and
are
encouraging
we're
still
struggling
now
to
figure
out
how
to
balance
these
challenges
that
face
us.
So
you
know
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
that!
A
We
did
have
an
affordable
housing
work
session,
as
vijay
mentioned
on
friday,
and
we
talked
about
setting
a
goal
for
this
council
of
leveraging
up
to
200
units
of
affordable
housing
a
year,
either
through
city
through
city
grant,
making
or
development
of
city-owned
property,
which
is
something
we're
exploring
or
with
deals
like
this,
where
a
conditional
zoning
application
comes
to
us
and
we
can
negotiate
some
affordable
housing
in
the
mix.
We're
not
allowed
to
require
that
by
law
in
North
Carolina,
but
we
can,
through
a
conditional
zoning
process,
negotiate
for
that.
A
So,
while
the
number
of
units
included
in
this
project
might
seem
small
to
some
people,
let
me
tell
you
what
a
big
lift
it
is
to
try
to
get
to
200
units
a
year,
which
is
not
a
lot,
but
it's
more
than
other
cities
in
North.
Carolina
are
doing
we're
trying
to
do
everything
we
can
and
use
every
tool
in
our
toolbox.
A
So
I
don't
dismiss
the
number
of
units
offered
at
60%
of
ami
in
this
project
because
we
heard
from
two
trusted
developer
on
Friday,
just
how
difficult
that
is
to
offer
for
a
variety
of
reasons
that
took
her
an
hour
to
have
to
explain
to
us,
so
so
with
that
I
will
offer
an
opportunity
to
the
Apple
pen.
If
you,
if
you
want
us
to
move
ahead,
we
will
no.
A
A
So
if
this
has
continued
to
the
next
council
meeting,
we
we,
the
next
item
on
our
agenda,
is
to
set
a
public
hearing
on
the
moratorium
on
hotels
which
will
be
voted
on
at
the
next
council
meeting.
So
there's
no
guarantee
that
this
project
would
make
it
under
the
wire
and
make
it
if
that's
approved
it
will
get.
It
doesn't
have
vested
rights
because
it
hasn't
been
voted
on
by
this
council.
Okay,.
AJ
N
A
A
C
A
Okay,
so
this
item
in
a
very
anti-climatic
moment
has
been
continued
to
the
next
meeting.
We
have
conducted
the
public
hearing
on
this
tonight
so
well.
Well,
if
it's
heard
at
the
next
council
meeting,
we
will
continue
that
okay,
if,
if
you
guys
want
to
stay
for
the
rest
of
this
agenda,
you
were
absolutely
welcome
to
or
this
could
be
your
opportunity
to
sneak.
A
N
A
BA
Since
2015,
there
have
been
approximately
1,300
hotel
rooms
that
have
opened
in
the
city
out
of
almost
2,800
total
rooms
that
have
been
approved,
of
those
about
38%
have
been
approved
within
the
central
business
district
and
of
the
hotel
rooms
that
have
opened
about
49%
were
built
in
the
CBD.
So
I
think
that
kind
of
speaks
a
little
bit
to
to
the
the
idea
of
some
clustering
within
the
downtown
area
for
for
new
hotel
development.
BA
Community
members,
staff
and
council
have
obviously
expressed
a
lot
of
concerns
about
the
impact
of
hotels,
both
good
and
bad
and
in
terms
of
community
concerns
as
staff.
What
we've
heard
a
lot
of
from
the
community
is
some
concerns
related
to
the
clustering
of
hotels
in
certain
areas
of
the
cities,
such
as
downtown
hotels,
don't
address
local
needs,
such
as
affordable
housing
and
other
needs
within
the
city.
Q
Good
evening,
mayor
members
of
council
I'm
going
to
do
my
best
to
be
clear
with
what
I'm
about
to
say,
Thank
You
Todd.
He
has
done
an
excellent
job,
I
think
briefly,
of
laying
out
the
challenge
that
the
city
faces
regarding
a
hotel
development
currently
within
the
city.
As
a
response
to
this
city,
staff
has
already
recommended
the
implementation
of
a
temporary
development
moratorium
for
this
category
of
development.
Q
Now,
during
the
rest
of
this
presentation,
we
try
we
are
going
to
try
to
briefly
describe
to
you
what
that
moratorium
would
look
like,
as
well
as
the
steps
that
city
staff
would
take
during
that
period
analyze
and
then
develop
new
land
use
regulations
around
hotel
development.
Now
Todd
is
going
to
return
briefly
to
discuss
that
second
element
in
more
detail,
but,
first
and
foremost
I'm
going
to
talk
to
you
a
little
bit
more
about
the
legal
fundamentals
around
such
an
action.
Q
The
starts,
of
course,
with
your
authority
to
take
such
an
action
and
that
derives
directly
from
north
carolina
general
statute,
168
381,
section
ii.
This
allows
very
specifically
municipalities
such
as
Asheville
to
implement
development
moratorium
on
certain
kind
of
development
approvals.
Now
this
is
part
of
a
framework
of
prerequisites
necessary
to
achieve
that
goal,
the
first
of
which
is
the
council
must
have
a
valid
purpose
for
having
a
moratorium.
You
simply
cannot
install
a
moratorium
for
the
sake
of
the
moratorium
itself.
Q
The
valid
purpose
is
codified
within
the
statute,
and
it
also
provides
several
options
that
are
considered
legally
valid,
valid
purposes.
The
one
that
I
think
applies
to
Asheville
is
the
one
I've
highlighted
here
on
the
presentation,
which
is
to
allow
for
development
of
regulations
for
particular
land
use.
In
our
case,
that
would
be
around
hotels
now
it
is
that
valid
purpose
which
defines
the
second
prerequisite,
which
is
duration.
The
statute
does
not
define
what
a
maximum
duration
for
a
moratorium
would
be.
It
does,
however,
tell
us
that
it
cannot
be
indefinite.
Q
It
requires
that
any
ordinance
enacted
by
the
City
Council
have
a
termination
date
for
the
moratorium
included
in
the
ordinance.
Now
I
can
say
that,
as
I
mentioned
previously,
the
valid
purpose,
the
reason
that
you're
doing
the
moratorium
should
define
the
duration.
How
long
it
takes
to
accomplish
the
goal.
Tells
you
how
long
your
duration
should
be?
No
more
no
less.
We
can
look,
however,
at
some
case
law,
specifically
from
the
United
States
Supreme
Court,
which
tells
us
that
moratoriums
last
thing
beyond
a
year
should
probably
warrant
a
certain
amount
of
judicial
skepticism.
Q
Now
the
process
to
go
about
enacting
a
Moute
aureum
is
fairly
simple.
It
does
require
the
enactment
of
an
ordinance
with
containing
some
of
these
elements
that
I've
mentioned
your
valid
purpose.
Your
duration
and
it
does
require
two
council
meetings,
the
first
of
which
we
are
currently
at.
That
second
meeting
is
the
meeting
where
a
public
hearing
would
occur,
where
Council
will
have
the
option
and
ability
to
hear
from
the
public
about
any
concerns
they
may
have
on
the
subject,
and
then
counsel
will
be
allowed
to
vote
at
that
same
meeting
now.
Q
I've
gone
over
this
very
quickly,
but
let
me
quickly
also
summarize
a
few
very
important
points
from
a
legal
standpoint.
First,
it
is
my
opinion
that
the
city
has
the
right
to
install
a
temporary
moratorium,
specifically
on
hotel
development
within
the
city
based
upon
the
case
law
that
I've
reviewed.
The
duration
of
this
should
be
defined
by
the
purpose
which
we
are
implementing
the
moratorium
for,
however,
the
duration
of
that
should
be
one
year
or
less.
Q
This
is
the
process
that
would
give
you
the
valid
purpose,
as
well
as
to
find
the
duration
you
need
for
your
moratorium
and
last,
but
certainly
not
least,
it
is
important
to
note,
as
the
mayor
mentioned
briefly
a
minute
ago,
that
hotels,
any
project
or
parcel
that
has
a
pre-existing
vested
right
in
that
project
will
be
unaffected
by
the
moratorium.
They'll
be
allowed
to
continue
their
project
during
that
moratorium
period.
Q
The
two
situations
where
that
is
most
likely
to
manifest
itself
in
our
situation
would
be
those
parcels
or
projects
that
have
already
received
a
valid
building
permit
or
which
have
received
a
rezoning
approval
by
this
council.
There
are
other
situations
where
vested
rights
could
come
into
play,
but
those
are
the
two
most
likely
ones
now.
BA
What
staff
is
proposing
is
up
to
a
one
year,
long
process
to
enable
staff
to
undertake
a
planning
process,
so
we
cannot
better
understand
the
impacts,
like
I
said
both
good
and
bad,
as
well
as
to
identify
best
practices
for
addressing
hotel
development
in
the
city
of
Asheville.
Obviously,
as
it
relates
to
the
issues
we're
facing
here,
but
also
best
practices
throughout
the
country,
one
of
the
ways
that
we
could
do
that
is
contracting.
With
the
Urban
Land
Institute
out
of
the
Charlotte
office.
BA
They
undertake
a
program
called
the
technical
assistance
panel,
which
is
a
type
of
planning
process
that
would
include
two
separate
workshops.
The
first
workshop
would
be
a
half-day
kickoff
event,
possibly
sometime
in
October
of
this
year,
in
which
the
uli
would
do
conduct
an
overview
of
the
hotel
industry
in
Asheville
identify
impacts
again.
BA
The
second
phase
of
this
schedule
would
include
up
to
a
nine-month,
long
process
for
city
staff
to
conduct
any
additional
supplemental
research
and
analysis
of
those
recommended
policy
strategies
and
tools.
As
part
of
that
process,
we
would
solicit
public
input
and,
ultimately,
at
the
end
of
that
again
that
up
to
nine
month
long
process,
city
staff
would
recommend
draft
recommendations
and
potential
code.
BA
A
But
I
just
had
a
question
about
I
understand
the
moratorium
legally
up
to
a
year
is
what
can
probably
legally
be
not
successfully
challenged
and
I
understand
that,
during
the
period
of
time
that
we're
having
the
more
time
we
need
to
be
working
through
a
process
of
dealing
with
the
issue
that
we
put
in
place
a
moratorium,
and
so
one
of
my
questions
is
you
know
we.
We
have
hotels
as
conditional
zoning
applications
right
now
and-
and
everyone
just
saw
how
that
worked
here
tonight
and
what
we're
we
kick
around.
A
So,
in
other
words,
both
sides
have
to
agree,
and
it
says,
conditions
and
site-specific
standards
imposed
in
a
conditional
district
shall
be
limited
to
those
that
address
the
conformance
of
the
development
and
use
of
the
site
to
city
ordinances
and
an
officially
adopted,
comprehensive
or
other
plan,
and
those
that
address
the
impacts
reasonably
expected
to
be
generated
by
the
development
or
use
of
the
site.
So
what
would
we
under
this?
So
it
has
those
three
things
you
can
consider:
city
ordinances.
Does
it
conform
to
city
ordinances
or
officially
adopted
comprehensive
or
other
plans?
I
A
F
A
A
Well
yeah,
so
we
were
discussing
that
with
Maggie
and
the
staff
will
try
to
figure
this
out.
I
think
it's
a
good
point
you
raised.
One
of
our
problems
is,
we
are
not
live
streamed
at
the
Civic
Center
on
TV.
We
are
only
on
YouTube
and
I.
Think
there
was
some
question
about
which
have
to
make
sure
we're.
D
N
I
I
V
D
I
A
Q
We
don't
have
any
specific
presentation
planned
on
this,
but
I'm
certainly
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
I
will
say
is
a
point
of
information
that
the
proposal
again
is
to
set
a
public
hearing.
It
is
not
to
vote
on
these
items
tonight.
There
are
two
proposed
public
hearings
that
would
then
be
followed
at
a
separate
meeting
votes
on
both
of
those
of
Council
so
chose.
Both
of
these
items
are
proposed
amendments
to
the
city's
Charter.
That
would
alter
the
form
of
Elections
that
we've
recently
altered
by
the
state
legislation.
Q
The
first
generally
speaking,
amendment
would
alter
the
city
council
elections
to
all
at-large,
eliminating
the
district
systems.
The
second
proposed
amendment
would
reinstall
the
primary
elections
process.
This
will
conform
to
primary
elections
that
occur
in
even
years,
which
is
where
we
now
reside,
as
opposed
to
the
previous
form
under
odd
years
system.
The
big
difference
there
is
that
election
primaries
that
happen
in
even-numbered
years
are
going
to
follow
what
the
County
system
currently
uses
and
school
boards
oftentimes,
where
the
election
for
the
primary
actually
occurs
in
March
and
the
candidate
filing
period
starts
in
December.
N
N
Will
okay
I
will
make
a
motion
to
adopt
a
resolution
of
intent
to
consider
an
ordinance
amending
the
city
of
Asheville
Charter
to
provide
for
at-large
elections
for
the
members
of
the
city
of
Asheville,
City
Council
and
setting
a
public
hearing
on
September
24
2019
on
the
proposed
charter.
Amendment.
A
A
BB
Hey
my
name
is
Ashley
McDermott
I
have
a
question
just
about
the
March
primary,
mainly
how
I'm
wondering
how
it
would
be
possible
other
than
to
get
special
permission
from
the
legislature
to
have
a
nonpartisan
primary
in
March
and
also
raises
some
concerns
about
other
candidates
that
might
be
waiting
to
run
for
the
first
time
or
you
know
just
any
anyone
having
the
same
chance
so
to
speak,
to
run
for
office.
At
what
point
will
we
have
a
definite
decision,
because
March
is
pretty
soon?
BB
Q
I'm
happy
to
answer
that
you'd
like
to
address
both
of
those
questions.
The
second
one
I'll
address.
First,
based
upon
the
current
schedule,
the
final
vote
of
council
on
this
issue
would
occur
on
well
on
both
of
these.
If
we
proceed,
you
not
would
occur
on
October
22nd.
The
filing
deadline
for
new
candidates
for
City
Council
under
the
primary
system,
if
adopted,
would
be
December
2nd
to
December,
20th,
I,
believe
and
then
the
election
obviously
would
still
be
held
in
November.
The
general
election.
Q
Q
The
to
answer
your
question
as
briefly
as
I
possibly
can
the
there
is
no
general
statute
defining
how
a
nonpartisan
municipal
primary
election
occurs
in
an
even
number
here.
Excuse
me:
yes,
an
even
number
year
the
statutes
are
written
to
define
this
process
for
odd-numbered
years
and
there
are
certain
complications
with
the
dates
of
when
a
primary
would
occur
as
well
as
when
early,
but
the
early
voting
occurs
as
well
as
absentee
balloting
occurs,
without
going
into
in-depth
into
those
issues.
Q
The
legislation
from
the
state
level
that
altered
our
form
of
government
here
provided
no
specific
guidance
on
this
issue
and
north
carolina
general
statute.
168
101
allows
for
municipalities
to
have
a
primary
system.
160
a
106
allows
us
to
make
charter
amendments
to
conform
to
any
of
the
options
that
allow
are
allowed
under
the
state
statute.
So,
under
that
second
statute,
we
have
the
right
to
make
additional
amendments
to
conform
as
necessary
to
any
of
the
allowable
forms
of
government.
Q
L
You
know,
as
you
know,
what
my
thoughts
are
on
this
as
I've,
been
here
over
the
over
a
year
now
trying
to
correct
the
record
on
the
racial
gerrymandering
non
gerrymandering
that
this
you
know
basically
was
the
centerpiece
of
the
conversation
over
the
last
year,
Joel
Burgess
just
wrote
up
a
nice
long
piece
about
this
issue
and
the
phrase
racial
gerrymandering
evaporated
about
as
fast
as
our
manganese
and
the
water
problems
is
gone
as
it
turns
out.
All
of
the
precincts
have
been
organized
into
districts.
L
They
still
can't
filter
that
per
the
column
filters
on
the
Buncombe
County
elections
site,
but
as
it
is
of
as
of
this
morning,
the
at-large
populate
registered
voter
total
number
in
Asheville
is
seventy
thousand
three
hundred
and
fourteen.
There
are
seven
thousand
one
hundred
and
seventeen
african-americans
registered.
That
gives
us
a
ten
point:
one
two
percent
overall
at-large
african-american
voter
registration
in
District
two.
That
percentage
is
eighteen
point
three,
five
percent,
it's
significantly
higher
than
the
at-large
district
5
is
14
point
zero.
L
Six
between
district
two
in
District
five,
you
have
sixty
percent
of
the
african-american
registered
voters
in
those
two
districts,
and
so,
if
you
changed
to
an
at-large
system,
you
will
be
diluting
a
majority
of
the
minorities
vote
by
do
I
know
that
you
suggested
adding
a
couple:
councilmembers
I,
don't
think
that
in
general,
adding
Kooks
to
the
kitchen
is
a
good
idea
and
of
course,
if
you
add
more
council
numbers,
you
will
be
further
diluting
the
african-american
vote.
So
the
african-american
vote
down
to
ten
point
one.
L
Two
percent
ten
point:
one:
two
percent:
we
need
to
be
taking
action
to
protect
the
strength
of
the
african-american
vote,
the
at-large
system
dilutes
it.
It
is
historically
shown
to
be
the
case
that
net
n-double-a-cp
legal
defense
fund
is
constantly
writing
to
cities,
threatening
to
sue
them
for
their
at-large
elections.
Wouldn't
that
be
ironic
for
Asheville
to
get
sued
by
civil
rights.
L
After
all,
you
know
where
is
so
liberal
here
so
I
mean
this
is
a
horrible
idea:
you're,
not
gonna
cash
in
any
goodwill
that
you've
ever
had
with
the
North
Carolina
General
Assembly,
if
you
think
it's
hard
to
negotiate
with
them.
Now
it's
gonna
be
impossible
when
you
reverse
what
they
did,
which
is
good
for
us.
What
they
did
for
us
was
an
intervention,
not
an
imposition
it
needed
to
be
done.
We
all
failed
on
not
recognizing
how
our
at-large
system
hurts
the
african-american
community.
We
failed
through
white
privilege.
AQ
Nina
Tova's,
just
one
quick
follow-up
on
the
timing
of
primaries
I've
read
a
bunch
of
different
conflicting
opinions
about
this
I
just
want
to
understand
in
this
statute
from
the
legislature.
Is
there
a
requirement
that
we
have
our
primaries
at
the
time
of
the
general
election
primary
primary
or
not?
And
if
there
isn't,
would
it
be
possible
for
us
to
choose
instead
to
do
as
we
did
previously
in
odd
number
years?
Have
our
primaries
much
closer
to
the
general
election?
I
do
think.
AQ
D
N
Q
There
are
actually
limited
options.
The
primary
system,
whether
you
are
in
an
odd
or
an
even
numbered
year,
is
defined
by
statutes
at
the
state
level,
I
believe
it's
163,
1618
I,
think
that
tells
you
specifically
how
this
is
supposed
to
work
if
you
are
in
an
even
year
or
an
odd
year,
because
we've
been
moved
even
years
at
this
point,
the
only
option
for
primaries
is
to
follow
the
statutes
that
define
this
timetable
on
the
county
schedule.
Q
In
general,
election
years
is
different
than
odd-numbered
years,
and
it
makes
it
impossible
at
the
state
level
to
deal
with
a
primary
that
happens
at
the
normal
time
for
and
odd
here,
which
is
in
October
or
September.
So
by
statute
in
an
even-numbered
year.
We're
required
to
follow
that
system
which
is
set
up
for
the
counties.
AL
Hello,
I'm,
Sarah,
Benoit
and
really
quickly,
I
just
wanted
to
say,
I'm
really
excited
to
see
that
we're
gonna
have
public
comment
on
this
coming
up
soon
and
I
really
appreciate
all
of
you
moving
this
forward.
My
little
sister
is
going
to
be
getting
married,
so
I
will
not
be
there
on
the
24th,
but
I'm
gonna
be
sending
some
feedback
to
everybody
by
email.
AL
The
way
that
we
needed
to
in
an
even
year,
there's
even
to
be
this
week
when
I
talk
to
people.
Some
real
concerns
about
whether
or
not
the
Board
of
Elections
even
has
the
amount
of
people
necessary
to
run
our
local
elections
alongside
of
the
main
federal
elections,
and
there
was
some
real
stress
in
the
conversation
there
about
that.
So
that's
just
something:
I
hadn't
really
thought
about,
and
that
I
haven't
heard.
Anyone
on
this
issue
talk
about
whether
or
not
we
feel
secure
in
whether
or
not
our
elections
can
actually
happen.
P
Sorry
didn't
mean
to
cut
you
off
ahead
of
myself.
No,
no!
No!
No!
No
problem,
I
appreciate
everyone's
patience
on
this
I
do
have
a
I,
don't
want
to
call
it
a
rather
lengthy
statement
prepared
on
it,
but
this
is
important
to
me,
as
many
of
you
know,
I
host
an
alternative
alternative
Mo's
that
I
want
to
talk
about
that
I
had
hoped
would
also
be
on
the
agenda
today
and
also
be
considered
by
council.
P
So
that's,
obviously
not
the
case
and
I
want
to
kind
of
explain
why
and
and
I
would
also
like
to
encourage
council
members
to
think
about
doing
that
since
getting
on
council
I
spent
more
time
researching
council
districts
than
any
other
issue
and
based
on
that
analysis,
I
publicly
changed
my
position
to
oppose
an
all
at-large
system.
Hearing
the
concerns
that
both
sides
had
I
proposed
a
compromise
mixed
district
at-large
system
that
would
keep
the
five
districts
drawn
and
add
two
additional
at-large
network
members
for
a
total
of
nine
members.
P
My
compromise
would
have
allowed
every
resident
to
be
able
to
vote
for
a
majority
of
council
members
and
maintain
the
pic3
system
that
we
have,
regardless
of
the
vote
tonight,
or
the
vote
in
the
future.
I
will
continue
to
push
for
that
system.
The
question
that
we
as
a
city-
and
we
as
a
council
ought
to
be
asking
ourselves,
is
what
system
is
best
for
the
average
Asheville
resident?
Not
what
system
sends
a
message
to
the
General
Assembly?
Not
what
system.
P
What
system
benefits
the
most
well
organized
and
politically
connected
groups?
The
question
for
us
should
be
what
is
best
for
the
average
Asheville
resident,
and
here
are
four
reasons.
Why
I
think
that
my
proposal
and
not
at
all
at-large
system,
is
best
for
the
average
Asheville
resident
and,
in
my
opinion,
should
also
be
considered
tonight.
First,
a
system
with
some
districts
ensures
that
every
resident,
every
neighborhood
in
every
part
of
the
city
will
have
a
council
who
is
directly
accountable
to
them.
P
You
know
specifically
who
to
call
when
you
have
an
issue
with
the
current
at-large
system.
The
average
person
is
at
the
mercy
of
whoever
up
here
decides
to
respond
to
their
constituent
requests
and,
if
we're
being
honest
with
ourselves,
there
are
certain
council
members
who
do
a
much
better
job
in
responding
when
you
have
districts
there's
nowhere
for
us
to
hide.
Second,
a
system
with
some
districts
will
better
represent
the
needs
of
the
average
citizen
to
City
Hall.
P
In
her
seminal
book,
the
death
and
life
of
great
American
cities,
Jane
Jacobs,
wrote
quote
the
chief
function
of
a
successful
district
is
to
mediate
between
the
indispensable
that
inherently
politically
powerless
Street
neighborhoods
and
the
inherently
powerful
city
as
a
whole.
Among
those
responsible
for
cities
at
the
top,
there
is
much
ignorant.
Districts
have
to
help
bring
the
resources
of
a
city
down
to
where
they
are
needed
by
Street
neighborhoods,
and
they
have
to
help
translate.
The
experiences
of
real
life
in
street
neighborhoods
into
policies
and
purposes
of
their
city
as
a
whole.
AH
P
Person
advocated
for
what
they
need,
and
if
we
go
back
to
the
åland
large
system,
they
will
miss
out
on
that
chance
again.
Third,
the
mixed
district
at-large
system
that
I'm
proposing
all
but
eliminates
the
concern
that
parts
of
the
city
will
be
pitted
against
each
other.
Under
my
proposal
there
will
be
four
members,
including
the
mayor,
who
will
be
elected
at-large
and
every
Ashville
voter
will
be
able
to
elect
a
majority
of
council
and
again
will
be
able
to
pick
three
as
a
result.
P
It
also
as
a
whole
will
not
favor
or
disfavor
any
particular
area
of
the
city.
Fourth,
my
proposal
is
an
Asheville
solution.
Not
a
Raleigh
solution.
I
understand
the
desire
to
tell
the
General
Assembly
to
stand
of
our
business.
It's
a
point
of
pride
I
get.
It
was
part
of
the
reason
that
I
voted
against
the
original
referendum,
but
what
I'm
proposing
here
isn't
Raleigh's
solution.
It
is
ours.
Should
we
have
the
courage
to
enact
it?
P
P
If
a
large
system
is
so
good,
why
does
every
other
large,
City
North
Carolina
other
than
Wilmington
have
some
form
of
district
representation?
If
an
all
a
large
system
is
the
best
system
for
minority
communities,
why
do
they
can't
double-a-c-p
Legal
Defense
Fund
right
quote?
Fewer
and
fewer
districts
still
practiced
at-large
voting.
P
By
the
way,
some
believe
that
a
system
with
districts
passed
unanimously
by
the
state
Senate
is
racist,
really
given
where
we
are
today
under
an
all
at-large
system.
How
could
it
possibly
get
worse?
Council
has
the
authority
to
act.
Let
us
have
a
real
and
open
debate
on
the
substance
and
be
guided
by
the
question.
What
system
is
best
for
the
average
Asheville
resident.
A
J
The
notion
to
adopt
a
resolution
of
intent
to
consider
an
ordinance
amending
the
city
of
Asheville
Charter
to
provide
that
Asheville
City
Council
elections
be
conducted
by
the
nonpartisan
primary
and
election
method
and
setting
a
public
hearing
on
September
the
24th
2019
on
the
proposed
charter.
Amendment
second.
A
M
AN
A
BB
Good
evening
again,
my
name
is
Ashton
McDermott
I'm
here
tonight
on
behalf
of
Sunrise
Asheville
and
community
roots,
to
again
reiterate
when
others
have
shared
during
recent
public
comment
and
communications
with
you
that
the
city
of
Asheville
take
action
and
declare
climate
emergency
passing
a
resolution
to
that
effect.
The
resolution
is
already
drafted
on
the
climate
emergency
mobilization
website,
which
is
believed,
has
been
shared
with
all
of
you,
along
with
which
has
to
have
resources
and
talking
points.
BB
AB
BB
To
plan-
and
we
know-
will
take
a
lot
of
work
and
recruiting
bringing
many
people
to
the
table.
That's
why
we
hope
to
work
with
Council
and
expedite
this
process
by
declaring
that
we
are
in
a
climate
emergency
and
committing
to
addressing
it
in
time
to
avoid
the
worst
outcomes.
Local
governments
can
become
leaders
in
this
movement
and
encourage
others
to
do
the
same
in
North
Carolina.
We
are
controlling
by
the
biggest
in
the
country,
Duke
Energy,
which
controls
90
percent
of
our
energy
use
with
their
pervasive
fossil
fuel
influence.
BB
We
cannot
simply
stand
by
and
wait
for
changes
in
Raleigh.
Furthermore,
our
current
city
might
go
awry.
200
percent
renewable
energy
by
2030
is
only
for
municipal
buildings,
which
constitutes
less
than
1%
of
our
energy
use.
We
appreciate
that
the
process
has
begun.
We
really
do,
however,
we
feel
we
need
to
reset
our
commitment
and
our
certain
point
in
across
North
Carolina.
We
are
really
looking
to
our
local
governments
for
leadership
on
this.
BB
That
involves
the
discussion
not
just
about
solar
panels
on
roofs,
but
about
a
lot
of
the
things
that
we
heard
not
here
tonight
about
our
transportation.
Our
waterways,
our
sustainable
food,
were
generated
for
me,
construction,
waste
and
much
more,
and
we
would
like
this
Sydney
adopted
to
the
living
Nashville
Comprehensive
Plan.
So
we
know
it's
a
central
part
of
our
city
of
Ephesus
and
right
now.
This
process
feels
on
here
we're
not
sure
who
will
be
conducting
the
public
outreach
in
order
to
reach
these
goals.
The
timeline
is
vague
and
it's
extremely
concerning.
BB
If
it
will
be
the
EIT
F,
then
we
shouldn't
be
giving
to
gonna
do
suits
at
the
table
because
it's
a
conflict
of
interest
and
there
should
be
increase
community
representation
and
its
leadership
as
well
as
the
group
as
a
whole.
We
need
a
green
new
deal
for
Asheville
and
for
welcome
County,
and
that
starts
with
this
resolution.
Thank
you.
F
I
think
it's
the
the
plan
is
that
this
resolution
is
gonna,
go
through
Stacy
I
mean
if
ever
everybody
knows
the
city's
adapted.
A
number
of
resolutions
around
our
energy
policy
and
Stacy
is
the
place
that
everything
starts
in
terms
of
making
sure
that
we're
adhering
to
that
policy
or
whether
we're
gonna
make
a
recommend
whether
there's
going
to
be
a
recommendation
to
change
that
policy.
And
if
this
resolution
is
talking
about
accelerating
our
commitment
to
clean
energy,
that's
a
conversation
that
needs
to
start
at
Stacy.
A
I
want
to
thank
councilman
Haynes
is
furthering
this
resolution
and
asked
to
try
to
get
it
accelerated.
He
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
it
and
understands.
We
have
a
lot
of
people
that
have
been
working
on
climate
issues
in
the
city,
already
a
lot
of
people
that
serve
on
our
committees
and
commissions,
and
there
have
been
pretty
comprehensive,
adopted
plans
and
policies
in
place.
A
A
C
That
Ash
with
City
Council
go
into
closed
session
for
the
following
reasons:
to
prevent
disclosure
of
information
that
is
privileged
and
confidential.
Pursuant
to
the
laws
of
North
Carolina
are
not
considered
a
public
record
within
the
meaning
of
chapter
132
of
the
general
statues.
The
statutory
authorization
is
contained
in
north
carolina
general
statute,
section
143,
318
11,
a
1.
C
Statutory
authorization
is
contained
in
north
carolina
general
statute,
section
143,
318
1183
to
consider
the
qualifications,
competence,
performance,
character,
fitness
condition
of
appointment
or
condition
of
initial
employment
of
an
individual
public
officer
or
employee
or
respective
public
officer
or
employee.
The
statutory
authorization
is
contained
in
north
carolina
general
statute,
section
143,
318
11,
a.