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From YouTube: City Council Meeting – December 11, 2018
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December 11, 2018
Asheville City Council Meeting
A
B
C
B
B
Another
item
I'd
like
to
mention
I,
want
to
thank
all
of
the
city
staff
that
worked
so
hard
on
dealing
with
Snowmageddon
I
know
a
lot
of
the
administration
and
a
lot
of
people
in
public
works
and
Public
Safety
pulled
some
long
hours
to
make
make
everything
work
right.
Everything
from
communications
to
getting
roads
cleared
I
saw
a
lot
of
positive
feedback
online
people
really
appreciative
of
how
quickly
the
roads
got
cleared,
and
so
I
want
to
thank
everyone
for
working
so
hard
on
that.
B
A
B
Also,
let's
see
I
think
one.
Other
item
is
that
item
B
on
our
public
hearings,
calendar,
which
is
the
the
proposed
56
room
hotel
on
Biltmore
Avenue.
There
is
a
desire
on
behalf
of
the
applicant
to
continue
that
item
to
March
26th,
so
it
will
not
be
heard
tonight.
So,
if
you're
here
for
that
item,
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
now.
That
item
will
not
be
heard
you
tonight,
I
will
do
a
motion
when
we
get
to
the
public
hearing
portion
of
the
agenda.
B
F
B
B
B
Second,
all
right
I
have
a
motion
and
a
second
to
approve
the
consent
agenda.
If
there's
anyone
wishing
to
comment
on
the
consent
agenda,
please
raise
your
hand.
You
will
have
three
minutes
to
speak.
Anybody
all
right.
All
those
in
favor
of
the
motion
to
approve
the
consent
agenda.
Please
say
aye
any
opposed
all
right.
B
A
C
H
I
H
I'm
so
glad
that
they
performed
exceptionally
and
I
think
that
this
is
probably
typical.
This
isn't
a
typical
of
this
staff,
so
I
appreciate
that,
and
secondly,
want
to
thank
the
community,
because
I
think
that
they
pitched
in
and
heat
it
all
of
the
warnings
that
the
sheriff
and
the
police
in
Public
Works
Department
was
was
asking
them
to
stay
off
the
roads
and
don't
park
in
the
streets
so
that
they
were.
H
We
were
able
to
do
our
job
effectively
and
I
think
efficiently,
and
then
lastly,
I
just
wanted
to
thank
the
the
media
and
the
county
for
joining
us
at
a
press
conference
that
we
we
held
on
Saturday,
so
I
know,
there's
that
that
press
conference
probably
wasn't
typical,
but
it
wasn't
a
typical
storm
either.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
that
opportunity
mayor.
Thank
you.
Folks.
B
J
Does
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
give
you
a
very
brief
update
on
the
state
storm
activities
in
the
city
of
Asheville
over
the
weekend.
So
this
this
storm
certainly
is
Miss.
Campbell
indicated
was
not
a
typical
storm,
it
was
a
dangerous
storm.
It
was
a
severe
storm.
We
were
blessed
here
in
Asheville
that
we
had
no
loss
of
life,
but
some
other
communities-
North
Carolina,
weren't,
mortis
fortunate.
This
was
a
very
significant,
serious,
dangerous
storm
to
to
welcome
our
brand
new
city
manager.
J
We
welcomed
her
with
at
Western
North
Carolina
snowstorms
there,
but
what
she
brought
with
her
is
a
tremendous
leadership
and
innovation
and
we'll
talk
through
some
of
some
of
the
successes
that
we
had
through
this
storm.
The
public
safety
call
volume
doubled,
which
is
not
unusual
for
a
snow
storm
of
this
magnitude.
One
thing
to
note
and
Miss
Campbell
already
spoke
to
this
a
little
bit
is
we
had
47
vehicle
collisions
over
the
period
of
the
snowfall.
That's
that's
less!
J
That's
significantly
less
than
we
would
have
on
a
normal
day
with
clear
weather
we
had
60
percent
of
the
vehicle,
collisions
that
normally
we
would
have
and
and
I
really
think
that
that
is
a
direct,
related
directly
press
conference
that
was
held
the
information
that
was
shared
by
our
Cape
Department
partners,
with
the
media
spreading
that
information
in
the
strong
collaboration
with
the
county
and
the
state
to
get
that
message
out,
and
that
certainly
made
a
huge
difference
in
so
many
levels
as
a
state.
We
had
no
storm
deaths.
J
Fortunately,
here
in
Asheville
we
did
have
one
storm
related
employee
injury,
which
was
a
minor
injury,
Public
Works
treated
503
miles
in
1637
roads.
They
did
this
by
working
24
hours
a
day,
two
shifts
12
hours
on
12
hours
off.
They
also
treated
and
cleaned
50
miles
of
sidewalks,
something
new
and
innovative
that
that
our
public
works
director
Greg
Schiller,
had
his
staff
do
this
year
was
a
new
calcium
chloride,
salt
brine
solution,
the
pretreatment
of
roads
and
sidewalks,
and
that
certainly
seemed
to
to
make
a
difference
in
snow
removal.
J
During
this
event,
they're
also
able
to
to
keep
those
plows
on
the
road
due
to
our
general
services
department,
our
fleet,
they
were
also
worked
24
hours
a
day,
12
hours
or
12
hours
office
soon
is,
is
one
of
those
plows
that
the
mayor
referenced.
We'd
go
down.
The
fleet
was
right
there
to
get
back
up
on
the
road
which
made
a
really
big
difference:
our
technology,
our
IT
s,
Department
hell
tremendously.
J
Some
time
ago
we
made
a
significant
change
in
technology
in
our
city
and
it
really
paid
significant
benefits
to
allow
us
to
make
better
decisions
with
better
information,
the
Google
Groups
Google
Hangouts.
We
were
able
to
do
real-time
switch
situation.
Reports
with
in
the
past,
as
council
knows,
you
would
get
those
statically
well,
we
were
able
to
at
any
given
time,
have
a
real-time
situation
report
of
everything
that's
going
on
in
the
city
for
all
of
the
city,
employees
that
were
working
the
AVL
Alerts.
J
We
felt
that
that
had
a
really
good
impact
on
our
transit
riders,
knowing
the
impacts
that
the
storm
had
for
a
transit
system
so
that
they
would
not
be
waiting
out
in
the
snow
for
a
bus
that
wasn't
going
to
show
up
our
ever
bridge
system
also
is
a
tremendous
way
to
inform
the
community
of
different
things
that
were
going
on.
Our
snow
Mackworth
was
viewed
over
14,000
times
in
our
communities.
That
was
a
significant
use
of
that
technology
to
pass
on
that
information
to
our
community.
J
As
Miss
Campbell
stated,
we
collaborated
with
the
county
to
have
our
new
sheriff
of
County
officials.
Mister
mister,
be
hon.
Members
of
city
staff
and
Miss
Campbell
kicked
off
the
the
press
conference
by
allowing
all
of
the
community
know
beforehand
how
serious
this
storm
was
going
to
be
and
how
important
was
to
stay
home
and
different
safety
recommendations
as
a
huge,
huge
difference
that
we
did
this
year
and
it
certainly
had
a
very
much
a
positive
effect.
Our
the
community
reaction,
the
social
media,
we're
a
would
communicate
with
residents
in
real
time.
J
We
got
a
very
positive
reaction
from
members
of
the
community
through
our
social
media.
This
one,
video
that
was
posted
on
our
website
was
viewed
1,800
times
the
winning
video
here's
some
examples
of
hats
off
to
all
involved
and
the
amazing
hanging
lei
this
storm
great
job,
burger
works.
You
know
gave
us
a
shout
out.
Thanks
for
all
you
do
nice
job
with
this
storm
we
had.
We
had
many
examples
of
those
even
on
social
media
sites,
not
our
own
website,
but
just
independent
social
media
sites.
J
There
was
a
lot
of
positive
comments
from
the
community
about
the
streets
being
cleared
and
the
storm
response.
So,
in
summary,
our
preparation,
the
coordination,
strong
core
nation,
are
partners
with
the
County
Red
Cross
other
nonprofits,
the
media,
our
communication
and
all
of
the
city
staff
that
work
24/7
throughout
the
entire
storm
certainly
made
an
impact
and
fortunately
could
have
been
a
much
worse
situation
for
our
community.
So
with
that,
we
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
G
I'll,
just
note
from
my
personal
observation
is
that
more
roads
were
cleared
in
West
Asheville
than
are
normally
cleared,
including
the
road
that
my
little
Street
goes
out
on
to
and
that
yeah
it
I
was
floored
as
we
walked
around
on
I
guess.
It
was
Monday
morning
at
how
many
of
the
smaller
really
smaller
streets
in
West
Asheville
that
don't
usually
get
plowed
or
plowed
so
well
done.
Thank
you.
B
K
Up
yeah
I'm
gonna
bring
some
folks
up
here,
there's
a
whole
there's
a
whole
crew,
but
my
name
is
Stephanie
Munson
Tom,
serving
as
the
interim
assistant
planning
director
for
the
city
of
Asheville
right
now,
you're
gonna
hear
an
update
on
a
project
where
the
city
was
a
collaborative
partner.
We
were
one
of
the
funders
for
this
project
and
Mike
Marcus
from
the
Center
for
craft
creativity
and
design
is
going
to
tell
you
all
about
it.
Thank
you
and
I'm
here
for
any
questions.
Afterwards.
L
F
On
thanks
dad
for
that
introduction,
and
thank
you,
mayor,
manheimer
and
council
for
this
opportunity
and
for
your
commitment
to
date
both
to
this
project
into
the
issue
of
affordable
housing
for
Asheville.
This
effort
began
with
the
center
for
craft
and
the
Asheville
chair
area,
chamber
of
commerce,
seeking
data
on
housing
and
other
space
needs
for
our
creative
sector.
Okay,.
F
Art
space
is
the
leading
nonprofit
developer
of
live
work,
artist,
housing,
artists,
studios,
art,
centers
and
arts,
friendly
businesses
in
the
United
States,
and
they
are
extremely
particular
about
where
they
choose
to
invest
their
time
and
potentially
develop
a
project.
Apparently
they
to
read
many
of
the
top
ten
lists
that
featured
Asheville
and
recognized
it
as
the
unique
creative
environment.
We
all
know
and
love
our
affordable
housing
needs
and
thriving
creative
sector
made
them
a
natural
partner
for
this,
mike
is
now
going
to
share
with
you
some
very
specifics
about
the
project.
E
As
Elizabeth
mentioned,
I
am
Mike
Marcus
at
the
Center
for
craft
and
I
was
the
project
manager
on
this
project
for
the
last
three
years.
The
Center
is
deeply
grateful
for
the
project,
incredible
community
support,
as
demonstrated
by
our
partners
on
this
slide.
We
began
this
journey
in
November
2015
with
kick
Kraemer
of
the
Asheville
Chamber,
knowing
that
the
data
gathered
for
such
a
project
would
benefit
numerous
community
stakeholders
and
thousands
of
artists
and
creatives.
This
is
the
first
project
of
this
nature
for
Asheville's
creative
sector.
E
The
city
generously
contributed
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
to
the
process
and
has
been
a
critical
of
a
critically
important
project
partner.
So
thank
you.
The
project
leadership
group
was
developed
following
the
direction
of
art
space
and
was
established
to
help
Shepherd
the
project
forward.
Several
funders
dedicated
staff
to
serve
on
the
leadership
group
and
other
members
were
added
based
on
suggestions
from
art
space.
Many
other
community
leaders
were
engaged
in
ad
hoc
ways
through
presentations,
focus
groups
and
one-on-one
meetings.
E
Since
November
2015,
the
project
has
had
three
steps
which
are
based
on
art,
spaces,
proven
due
diligence,
method,
project
initiation
and
fundraising,
the
preliminary
feasibility
study
and
report,
and,
most
recently,
the
arts
market
survey
and
market
study.
We
are
now
at
the
critical
juncture
of
deciding
how
to
move
forward
with
a
compelling
data.
That's
been
collected
through
phases,
one
and
two.
The
next
step
would
be
to
enter
into
an
agreement
with
art,
space
for
project
design
and
pre-construction
services.
E
Utilizing
art
spaces
model
stakeholders
were
engaged
in
different
ways
through
each
phase
phase.
One
centered
on
cross
sector
focus
groups
in
an
assessment
of
Asheville's
creative
sector
housing
needs.
This
included
site
visits
to
ten
potential
project
locations,
many
of
which
were
city-owned
properties,
phase
two
built
on
the
outcomes
of
phase
one
and
further
develop
the
specifics
of
whether
or
not
a
new,
affordable
housing
space
were
created
for
the
creative
community
was
viable.
A
key
step
of
phase
one
was
assessing
potential
sites.
E
Several
of
the
properties
visited
were
city-owned
and
already
earmarked
for
affordable
housing
efforts,
phase
one
identified,
ninety-one,
Riverside
Drive
or
the
Ice
House
as
the
priority
site
for
this
project
by
art
space
using
their
site
selection,
matrix
and
scoring
criteria.
The
property
rankings
centered
on
the
presumed
demand
for
an
ad
unit,
affordable
artists,
housing,
mixed-use
project,
which
was
then
tested
using
the
arts
market
survey
and
Phase
two
later
affirmed
this
site.
E
The
surveys
were
open
for
nine
weeks,
utilizing
press
social
media
and
online
platforms,
as
well
as
printed
materials
to
spread
the
word
and
garner
inclusive
and
statistically
relevant
responses
for
those
identifying
as
part
of
the
creative
sector.
The
result
was
fourteen
hundred
and
thirty-five
collected
surveys.
Art
space
was
blown
away
by
this
response
rate
and
provided
this
quote.
E
The
arts
market
survey
is
a
critical
step
in
the
feasibility
phase
of
an
affordable
artists,
housing
mixed-use
project
designed
to
serve
Asheville's
creative
sector
input
by
local
artists,
creatives
and
makers,
alongside
arts
and
cultural
organizations
and
creative
business
leaders
informs
the
design
and
development
of
new
space.
Resulting
data
can
be
used
for
project
concept,
developing
development,
including
how
many
and
what
types
of
spaces
to
create
space,
location,
affordable,
rent
structures,
space
sizes
building
amenities
and
which
design
features
will
best
support
the
work
and
family
needs
of
residents
and
tenants.
Art
space
was
extremely
impressed.
E
L
E
Achieve
this
level
of
engagement,
we
developed
strong
partnerships
with
a
diverse
set
of
cultural
organizations.
This
is
a
snapshot,
not
a
comprehensive
list,
but
one
that
shows
the
range
and
scale
of
participating
organizations.
Concerted
outreach
by
all
of
our
pardoning
partnering
organizations
led
to
the
impressive
response
rate.
E
503
individual
respondents
or
40
percent
indicated
interest
in
affordable
housing,
which
is
the
highest
percentage
that
arts-based
typically
sees
in
communities
across
the
United
States,
which,
with
a
typical
range
of
twenty
to
forty
percent.
Fifty
four
percent
of
the
respondents
interested
in
affordable
housing
for
artists
qualify
based
on
their
selected
house
household
income
in
the
survey
and
on
the
twenty
seventeen
sixty
percent
HUD,
rent
and
income
limits
or
at
the
ami.
The
data
also
demonstrates
significant
demand
for
studio
space
and
highlights
the
variety
of
our
creative
sector.
E
Before
I
hand,
the
presentation
back
to
Elizabeth,
it's
important
to
note
that
fifty
two
point,
six
percent
of
respondents
indicated
that
their
primary
income
comes
from
work
outside
of
their
creative
practice.
Further
demonstrating
that
Asheville's
creative
sector
is
representative
of
our
entire
community.
F
Thanks
Mike,
the
project
leadership
group
is
grateful
to
council
for
your
time
this
evening
and
we
are
also
appreciative
of
the
city's
investment
to
date,
monetarily
and
in
staff
assistance.
Special
thanks
to
mayor
manheimer
vice
mayor
Whistler,
councilmember,
Smith,
Kathy,
ball,
Sam
power,
Stephanie,
Munson
doll
and
Nikki
Reed
for
your
leadership
and
your
support
to
build
on
our
joint
success
and
to
take
advantage
of
this,
you
need
a
unique
opportunity
to
partner
with
art
space.
F
We
request
council
affirm
that
ninety-one
Riverside
Drive
be
developed
to
support,
affordable
housing
for
artists
and
creatives
and
that
any
and
all
of
the
city's
affordable
housing
tools
be
used
in
support
of
this
project,
including
innovative
practices
and
policies
and
funds
from
the
bond
referendum
and
affordable
housing
trust
fund.
Thank
you
for
your
commitment
and
we're
happy
to
answer
any
questions
and
by
we
I
mean
Mike.
E
G
E
So
typically,
they
they
develop
common
amenities
from
a
mixed
use
perspective
on
the
first
or
second
floors
that
really
meet
the
demands
and
needs
that
were
identified
as
part
of
the
survey.
They
also
a
part
of
the
survey
really
shows
a
need
also
for
performing
arts
space.
So
I
think
the
question
would
be
in
the
next
phase
of
really
starting
to
drill
down
and
understand.
What
can
this
site
support?
Would
individual
studios
be
the
best
and
highest
use
of
the
project
or
would
or
would
common
shared
studio?
E
B
B
K
Will
here
report
further
on
in
the
agenda
about
those
three
sites
and
specifically
with
91
Riverside
Drive?
We
will
be
recommending
that
you
allow
us
to
move
forward
with
a
memorandum,
understanding
some
private
partners
and
also
art
space
that
will
allow
you
to
receive
a
proposal
when
the
specific
period
of
time,
so
it
does
not
tie
you
to
developing
it
with
art,
space
or
those
partners.
It
allows
them
to
come
forward
with
a
proposal
and
for
you
to
evaluate
it
within
the
next
probably
18
months.
B
B
Want
to
thank
all
of
you
all
for
working
on
this
so
thoroughly
and
and
the
collaboration
has
been
really
important.
The
process
has
been
very
thorough
and
I.
Think
art
space
is
a
fantastic
group
and
has
done
some
great
work
in
lots
of
cities.
So
this
is
a
neat.
I
mean
I.
Think
it's
an
important
opportunity.
Thank
you
exciting.
It's.
B
G
D
B
B
Okay,
art
space
is
a
nonprofit
that
is
specifically
works
on
affordable
housing
for
artists,
so
it
can
be
done
so
it
can
be
done,
but
but
there's
a
lot
to
learn
about
how
they
operate
and
how
that
works
and
I
think
the
staff
realizes
that,
which
is
why
we're
kind
of
on
a
long-term
study
trajectory
here.
Yes,
your
dad
said
that
right,
okay,.
O
Good
evening,
madam
mayor
and
members
of
City
Council
welcome,
miss
Campbell
snow
is
the
perfect
welcome
for
a
new
city
manager
and
we're
glad
you
here.
My
name
is
Luis.
Isaac
I
am
chairperson
of
the
actual
ABC
Board.
On
your
first
slide,
you
see
a
typical
Asheville
ABC
store
one
of
the
things
we
wanted
to
do
in
the
sell.
The
Spiritist
liquor
is
to
make
sure
that
is
not
one
of
those
places
you
slink
in
and
slink
out.
We
want
it
to
be
an
attractive
operation.
O
Our
number
one
priority
for
the
sale
of
spirituous
liquor
is
that
we
are
responsible
in
ourselves.
We
don't
want
to
sell
spíritus
liquor
to
underage
people.
We
don't
want
to
sell
spirituous
liquor
to
people
who
are
impaired,
so
we
do
a
great
deal
of
customer
service
training
without
staff,
and
we
have
a
commitment
to
excellence
and
customer
service.
We
are
responsive
to
the
needs
of
our
customers,
yet
we
work
with
the
model
of
efficiency,
so
we
can
give
more
resources
back
to
our
community.
O
There's
a
current
effort
by
some
people
in
the
state
to
privatize
the
ABC
system
and
one
of
the
misconceptions
that
many
people
have
is
that
taxes
are
used
to
operate
ABC
stores
it
couldn't
be
further
from
the
truth
we
will
have
our
general
manager
for
ABC
will
give
you
more
specifics
about
what
we
contribute
to
the
city
and
the
county
in
our
presentation.
So
I
will
now
turn
it
over
to
mark
combs,
the
general
manager
for
Asheville
ABC.
P
Exciting
to
be
here
actual
ABC
over
the
past
five
years,
we've
grown
from
a
twenty
five
million
dollars
of
sales
to
over
35
million.
We
project
37
million.
In
this
coming
fiscal
year.
Our
income
from
operations
have
gone
from
2.4
to
4.4
million
and
what
we're
most
proud
of
the
two,
the
two
biggest
numbers
for
us,
our
distributions
back
to
the
city
and
county-
have
gone
from
1.4
million
to
over
3
million
dollars.
P
This
past
fiscal
year
and
and
part
of
our
report
card
and
the
most
important
part
of
our
report
card
is
our
profit
percentage
to
sales,
which
is
another
measure
of
both
our
efficiency
and
in
our
ability
to
run
as
an
organization,
and
you
can
see
that
we've
gone
from
nine
point.
Four,
four
percent
to
twelve
point:
five,
eight.
P
Not
only
do
we
return
the
back
to
you
that
we
make,
but
we
have
11
local
alcohol
and
rehabilitation
grants
235,000.
Last
year,
Buncombe
County
Rehabilitation
Services
gets
an
additional
90
$2,000
North
Carolina
Department
of
Health
Services
102,000
and
I
have
three
dedicated
law
enforcement
officers
that
and
forced
all
of
the
liquor
laws
in
North
Carolina.
That
includes
beer
and
wine.
P
Our
most
ambitious
project
in
twenty
years
is
that
we
have
a
three
million
dollar
warehouse
headquarters,
improvement
project
that
we're
going
to
be
getting
into
in
May
of
2019
we've
simply
outgrown
our
facilities
at
one
carries
three
with
other
potential
products
coming
and
in
our
impending
growth.
This
was
a
move
that
we
had
to
make
in
the
future.
I'll
turn
it
back
over
to
our
Chairman.
O
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
see
as
a
board
is
that
there
will
be
continued
growth,
especially
especially
in
mixed
beverage.
Sales
and
I
have
to
publicly
compliment
mark
on
his
management
of
the
ABC.
We
are
operating
like
a
well-oiled
machine
and
one
of
the
things
that
happens
for
us
as
board
members
is.
We
have
to
take
that
30,000
foot
view
and
think
about
what's
happening
in
the
future.
O
What's
coming
up,
there
is
a
national
trend
to
legalize
cannabis
and
we
will
probably
oversee
the
sales
and
distribution
because
we're
already
a
part
of
that
control
control
structure.
We
one
of
the
good
things
about
our
new
warehouse
is
that
we
will
have
space
in
case
that,
indeed
does
occur,
we're
diligent
with
our
staff
in
their
knowledge
training,
and
we
want
our
staff
to
be
able
to
tell
customers
when
they
come
in.
O
M
O
We
always
strive
to
provide
excellence
in
service
and
we
have
a
continued
focus
on
efficiency
and,
as
you
can
see,
from
one
of
our
stores
on
innovation
and
on
leadership
for
the
North
Carolina
ABC
system,
I
am
fortunate
enough
to
be
a
member
of
the
North
Carolina
ABC
Commission,
because
of
the
guidance
and
wisdom
of
your
organization
and
I
can't
help
but
praise
when
Whistler
who
comes
and
is
an
active
part
of
our
members
and
is
liaison
to
our
board.
So
thank
you
again
for
all
that
you
do
do
you
have
any
questions.
I
had.
B
A
question
about
your
just
to
clarify
this
is
a
little
bit
of
a
every
state.
Runs
these
systems
differently,
but
a
B
C
stores
in
North
Carolina
are
state
created,
control,
regulated,
etc.
Except
we
appoint
the
board.
Well,
I
mean
they're
the
whole.
The
whole
infrastructure
is
created
by
statute.
That's.
B
O
The
state
legislature
can't
choose
to
make
that
change
right
right,
but
the
city
asked
the
city
the
way
this
law
is
written,
cities
and
counties
can
choose
to
have
a
PC
boards
or
they
can
choose
not
to
have
a
B
support.
So
that's
the
choice
that
your
predecessors
made
and
that's
the
reason
we
make
a
distribution
to
the
city
for
75%
of
our
profit
to
you
and
25%
to
Vulcan
County,
because
that
was
the
agreement
when
we
were
able
to
start
our
first
ABC
store.
That's
helpful
so.
B
The
the
gross
sales
you
should
you
know,
they're
striking
in
terms
of
their
dramatic
increase
I
mean
it
looked
like
from
2014
to
2018,
there's
an
increase
of
ten
million
dollars
a
year
in
gross
sales.
You
are
you're
just
talking
about
liquor,
basically
and
and
obviously
individuals
can
go
into
a
store
and
purchase
products,
but
is
the
majority
of
the
sale
to
to
like
hotels
or
restaurants
or
who
are
the
primary
purchasers
of
the
product?
Well,.
P
What
happens
is
they
have
to
pay
$3
and
21
on
a
fifth
of
liquor?
They
pay
a
$3
25
cent
surcharge,
but
of
course
they
pay
no
sales
tax.
So
if
you
buy
a
hundred
dollar
bottle
of
liquor,
seven
percent
on
a
hundred
dollars
there's
a
lot
more
than
three
dollars
and
25
cents
for
a
surcharge,
and
then
the
state
of
North
Carolina
allows
us
to
keep
40%
of
that.
So
that's
why
we're
third
in
the
state
and
mixed
beverage
sales
is.
We
have
a
very
robust
downtown,
a
very
robust
restaurant.
P
B
B
The
individual
purchases,
you
know,
I,
think
there's
a
perception.
Just
try
to
give
the
perception
in
Asheville
is
that
there's
there's
more
drinking
happening
in
Asheville
and
I'm
trying
to
get
at
it
sounds
to
me
like
what
you're
saying
is
individual
purchases
retails
about
normal
compared
to
the
rest
of
the
state?
Where
we
see
this
increase
is
because
we
have,
we
basically
have
a
tourism.
B
L
M
L
B
Q
R
Q
Q
Q
Quick
recap:
the
neighborhood
Advisory
Committee
serves
as
a
sounding
board
for
neighborhood
issues,
a
place
where
citizens
can
come
and
share
their
concerns,
and
our
role
is
to
bring
those
concerns
to
City.
Council
was
created
in
2012
pushed
by
Chris
Pelle
councilman
back
then,
and
we
continue
so
here's
the
short
list
of
neighborhood
citizen
concerns
that
we've
heard
and
again
this
is
from
our
three
regional
meetings
and
the
neighborhood
Advisory
Committee
I'm.
Q
Sorry,
the
festival
of
neighborhoods
you're,
probably
familiar
with
many
of
these,
and
in
some
cases
neighborhood
leaders
have
made
some
suggestions
for
addressing
these
issues
and
I
thought
go
through
them
in
detail.
Well,
I'll
share
those
suggestions
with
you,
so
traffic
probably
highest
on
everyone's
list.
Traffic
conditions
are
considered
dangerous.
Speeding
through
neighborhoods
is
causing
alarm.
We
know
there's
a
paradox
among
the
people
who
complain
about
the
speeding
through
neighborhoods
are
sometimes
the
ones
who
are
speeding
their
neighborhoods
and.
L
Q
Enforcement
is
high
on
everybody's
list.
What
would
help
be
helpful
is
continuing
to
communicate
with
neighborhoods
to
ensure
participation
in
the
merriment
Avenue
and
the
Charlotte
Street
plans
and
to
support
vision,
zero
to
move
Asheville
off
the
most
dangerous
city
list.
My
understanding
is
that
you've
created
a
multidisciplinary
task
force
to
look
into
vision,
zero
and
we
hope
you'll
continue
to
support
it.
Q
Sidewalks
a
safety
issue
I
recall
a
couple
of
years
ago,
councilman
Bothwell,
pointing
out
that
at
our
current
rate
of
building
sidewalks,
it
would
take
approximately
450
years
to
complete
the
sidewalks
in
the
2004
plan.
Almost
every
neighborhood
wants
the
we
talk
about
maintenance
of
the
sidewalks
that
are
in
disrepair
as
well
as
new
sidewalks
for
neighborhoods
that
don't
have
any
one
of
the
recommendations
is
to
explore
less
expensive
options
for
pedestrians,
unpaved
trails,
gravel,
perhaps
or
mulch
things
that
will
make
it
safer.
Q
Rapid
growth,
inadequate
infrastructure,
housing,
speed
of
development-
these
are
no
surprises
to
anyone,
but
the
citizens
want
to
be
kept
informed
as
well.
The
neighborhood's
want
to
be
kept
informed,
no
surprises.
We
are
pleased
with
last
year's
decision
to
require
developers
to
notify
homeowners
within
200
feet
of
a
proposed
project
and
give
those
residents
an
opportunity
to
meet
with
the
developer,
but
200
feet
isn't
enough.
Q
We
think
that
neighborhood
leaders
should
be
given
notice
as
well,
so
that
the
impacted
neighborhoods
can
also
weigh
in
when
there's
a
proposed
development
nearby.
Now
the
scale
of
the
proposed
development
is
concerning
the
Sears
Tower
Fuddruckers
things
that
people
find
out
about
sometimes
through
the
rumor
mill,
gentrification,
nothing
new,
but
as
housing
costs
go
up,
we
hear
about
it
from
the
neighborhood's.
Q
One
of
the
suggestions
was
to
support
the
Carter
plan
that
Tod
Oakland
Chinese
group
is
working
on
to
get
people
to
be
able
to
live
closer
to
where
they
work,
so
there's
less
traffic
and
better
housing,
noise
isn't
about
parties
loud
parties
or
barking
dogs.
It
is
but
this
this
concern
is
more
about
commercial
industrial
noise
that
comes
from
building
music
venues,
slamming
dump
slamming
dumpsters
early
in
the
morning.
These
are
not
rules
that
are
addressed
and
the
city
needs
to
address
them.
Q
It's
a
noisy
planet,
the
National
Institute
on
Deafness
and
Other
communication
disorders
tells
us
a
part
of
the
National
Institutes
of
Health,
and
their
concern
is
about
hearing
loss
in
youngsters
preteen
ages
than
they've
engaged
in
an
education
program
for
the
young
people
and
their
parents
to
try
to
avoid
more
hearing
loss.
It's
hard
enough
to
get
your
kids
to
listen
to
you.
Having
hearing
loss
is
not
going
to
help
Green
Wave's
people
are
happy
about
greenways,
neighborhoods
welcomed
them
and
they
look
forward
to
walking
on
them.
Q
Neighborhood
and
small
area
plans.
Not
too
long
ago
in
this
room,
the
Shiloh
neighborhood
plan
that
had
been
adopted
by
the
city
was
the
asset
that
kept
a
developer
from
the
encroaching
into
a
Shiloh.
Neighborhood
neighborhoods
are
aware
of
this
and
they
want
in
on
that
action.
They
want
the
opportunity
for
a
neighborhood
plan
or
a
group
of
neighborhoods
a
small
area
plan.
The
city
would
help
with
a
process
for
adopting
these
plans
for
developing
these
plans
and
we
suggest
supporting
the
planning
and
urban
design
group.
Q
So
you
can
expand
the
number
of
these
plans
that
neighborhoods
can
develop
and
plan
for
their
own
future
signage
for
neighborhoods
neighborhoods
want
to
put
up
signs.
Welcome
to
my
neighborhood,
and
you
will
recall
several
years
ago
the
neighborhood
Advisory
Committee
reps
met
and
served
on
the
committee's
to
develop
a
new
City
sign
policy.
When
the
Supreme
Court
issued
a
decision
on
the
content
of
signs
limiting
the
content
of
signs,
the
plan
was
shelved
and
nothing
further
heard,
so
I
think
people
want
to
get
signs
and
revisiting.
Q
It's
been
in
this
room,
many
many
hours.
It's
not
going
away.
The
main
concern
about
non-resident
investors
taking
over
neighborhoods
is
real.
We
hear
it,
but
enforcement
is
a
concern
of
those
who
don't
want
unlawful,
short-term
vacation
rentals
in
their
neighborhood
and
also
shared
by
those
who
have
legal
home
stays,
who
don't
want
lawbreakers
to
disrupt
their
neighborhood
and,
quite
frankly,
their
legal
business
and
neighborhoods
want
to
be
engaged
in.
The
enforcement
process
bears.
Q
We
all
see
the
postings
on
next
door,
the
videos,
the
cute
videos,
the
pictures
of
them-
we've
named
the
bear
that
comes
through
our
neighborhood.
It's
Sammy,
we
don't
know
if
it's
a
male
or
a
female
at
our
neighborhood
Advisory
Committee
festival
of
neighborhoods.
The
city
gave
a
handout
on
how
to
deal
with,
bears
and
was
very
good.
I
shared
it
with
with
many
of
my
neighbors.
But
the
fear
is
that
someone
will
get
hurt.
As
you
see,
there's
no
suggestion
for
how
to
deal
with
it.
Q
So
what
we
need
from
City
Council
are
there
issues
that
City
Council
wants
us
to
probe?
We
need
support
for
neighborhood
and
small
area
plans.
We
need
support
for
vision,
zero
to
reduce
crashes
and
the
question
is:
there
are
35
committees,
part
of
citizen
governance
in
our
town?
Is
the
neighborhood
Advisory
Committee
still
relevant.
Q
L
S
I'm,
the
the
council
liaison
to
to
this
group
and
just
want
to
thank
Phil,
you
and
everybody
else
on
the
on
the
committee,
who
spends
so
much
time
dealing
with
these
issues
and
kind
of
talking
to
people
about
a
lot
of
the
quality
of
life
issues
that
impact
their
daily
lives
in
terms
of
what
I
hear
just
outside
of
you
know
the
festival
of
neighborhoods
and
others.
Everything
that
you've
listed
on
here
are
issues
that
that
folks
are
talking
about
me.
S
We
were
talking
for
budgeting,
speeding
all
those
kinds
of
quality
of
life
issues
that
folks
may
not
come
to
a
city
council
meeting
to
talk
about
whether
whether
they
don't
have
the
opportunity
at
the
time
or
or
you
know
or
maybe
may
be
a
little
scared
about
getting
in
front
of
a
group
like
this.
But
having
that
having
the
the
committee
having
that
is
very
helpful
because
they
can
take
it
to
you.
G
Just
take
a
couple
of
just
a
couple
of
reflections
on
some
of
the
things
that
you
mentioned,
so
the
I
love
the
idea
of
requiring
notification
of
developments
to
two
registered
neighborhoods,
we're
I
think
on
our
next
peds
Genda.
We
were
supposed
to
have
a
meeting
yesterday
that
got
cancelled,
but
I
think
on
our
agenda
were
gonna,
be
talking
about
expanding
that
the
notice
the
required
notice
to
renters
and
I
feel
like
there
was
somebody
else,
so
we
can
certainly
add
that
for
consideration,
I
think
that's
a
great
idea.
B
We
have
advised
our
sign
ordinances
several
times,
I,
think
since
since
that
time,
but
I
I
hesitate
to
sit
here
and
direct
staff
to
start
working
on
a
sign
because
it
is
such
an
incredible
undertaking
to
deal
with
a
sign
ordinance
because
of
the
constitutional
law
portion
of
it
and
I,
and
we
have
an
interim
City
Attorney
spring
is
amazing,
but
she's
like
can
barely
drink
from
the
fire
hose.
We
constantly
handing
her
random
things
like
a
scooters
and
whatever,
but
we
are,
but
we
are
this
week
interviewing
for
for
a
city
attorney.
B
G
Well
I
know
like
in
Charlotte
I
was
there
I,
guess
I,
don't
know
a
year
or
so
ago
and
a
lot
of
neighborhoods.
They
don't
have
a
sign,
that's
stuck
in
the
ground.
They
have
something
on
top
of
the
street
sign,
which
is
maybe
a
City
thing.
Maybe
that's
something
we
can
do
to
create
that
sense
of
place
so
I,
just
maybe
we
can
on
the
list
of
things
for
the
new
city
attorney
to
look
at
and
then
on
the
short
term
vacation
rentals
there
is.
A
You
not
not
that
we're
gonna
answer
all
your
questions,
but
but
in
the
first
your
first
are
there
other.
Are
there
issues
City
Council
wants
us
to
probe
earlier
tonight
we
talked
about
the
whole
engagement
community
engagement.
How
do
people?
How
do
people
learn
about
issues
that
go
on
in
the
city?
How
much
did
they
want
to
participate
so
for
me,
I
think
the
neighborhood
group
would
help
us
a
lot
by
asking
those
questions.
How
do
you
want
to
get
informed?
A
How
do
you
want
to
participate
so
that
we
could
get
get
that
you
don't
just
work
on
delving
into
that
issue,
because
we're
constantly
hearing
a
lot
I
know
anything
about
this,
and
you
know
it's
like
well.
How
would
you?
How
would
you
like
to
know
about
it
kind
of
thing?
So
for
me,
that
would
be
one
of
the
issues.
I
would
love
to
hear
from
your
group
about,
and
you
work
on
getting
that
kind
of
information
and
to
your
last
question:
yes,
the
neighborhood
Advisory
Committee
is
relevant.
B
I'm
glad
that
we
have
a
neighborhood,
Advisory,
Committee
and
I
think
it's
been
very
useful
and
I
like
the
festival
of
neighborhoods
and
I,
like
that.
It
helps
provide
an
identity
for
neighborhoods
and
a
communication
forum
for
neighborhoods
to
speak
to
one
another.
I
do
I.
Do
I
am
NOT
able
to
marry
the
the
issue
around
urban
infill
projects
that
are
creating
heartburn
and
the
desire
to
situate
housing
close
to
workplaces.
Q
L
B
Maybe
I
need
to
just
learn
more
about-
maybe
that's
more
nuanced
then,
but
I
I
think
that
actually
is
sort
of
experiencing
that
that
conflicting
view
that
people
want
less
traffic,
less
cars
and
they
want
people
to
be
able
to
walk
and
bike
and
get
to
work
and
to
shop
and
the
grocery
store.
But
they
don't.
S
Don't
think
I
don't
think
if
it
was
suggesting
that
I
think
in
the
conversations
I've
heard
you
all
say,
and
just
having
figured
a
little
experience
in
this
area
and
of
both
sides.
You
know
a
lot
of
the
stuff
that
that
has
but
handle
that
you
won't
talked
about
here.
This
opportunity
to
have
neighborhoods
notified
and
sit
down
with
the
developers
often
actually
takes
a
lot
of
those
issues.
S
Settled
I
mean
one
of
the
biggest
problems
that
I
think
folks
have,
and
you
notice
that
here
is
being
surprised,
saying
something's
coming
in
here
getting
concerned
about
that
thinking,
it's
the
it's
the
ultimate
worst
thing
and
then
being
able
than
if
you're
actually
able
to
sit
down
face
to
face
with
with
developers
proposing
it
you
may
be
able
to
hear
here
are
the
concerns
we
really
have,
and
and
in
most
cases
in
talking
with
some
of
the
developers,
they've
actually
found
this
to
be
helpful,
I
think
initially
they
were
like.
This
is
just
a.
S
B
B
That
to
me
is
productive,
but
I
I
guess
I
wasn't
reading
the
slide.
I
was.
It
was
a
little
more
black-and-white.
I
wasn't
reading
it
to
be
okay
with
the
infill
development,
but
I
think
if
it's
that,
if
that's
the
direction,
we
want
input,
we
want
to
be
able
to
have
access
to
the
developer
and
talk
about
scale
and
talk
about.
You
know
those
sorts
of
things
like
that's
very.
B
And
they're,
not
so,
let's
just
this
is
part
of
the
process.
That's
a
little
bit
challenging
I
would
offer
that
the
developer
is
not
actually
creeping
around
they're
following
the
required
notification
to
the
neighborhood
before
they
bring
the
project
forward
and
what
ends
up
happening
is
council
doesn't
know
that
they've
sent
notices
to
the
neighborhood
and
that
300
people
in
the
case
of
Fuddruckers
showed
up
to
a
meeting
that
we
didn't
know
about,
and
we
haven't
seen
the
proposal
yet
and
then
we
get
300
emails
about
it.
B
M
B
B
B
T
D
L
U
U
Previously,
you
had
other
auditors,
so
we
a
little
bit
of
change
over
this
year
a
little
bit
deep-diving,
but
we
overall
want
to
say
thank
you
to
Barbara
and
her
team
for
really
answering
all
of
our
questions
and
doing
everything
that
we
asked,
which
was
quite
robust,
but
we
do
really
do
appreciate
it.
So
I'm
just
gonna,
try
to
go
through
this
fairly
quickly.
If
you
at
any
point,
have
any
questions,
please
feel
free
to
stop.
Ask
any
time
so
we're
gonna
just
kind
of
go
through
the
financial
results.
U
At
the
beginning
of
the
year
for
the
financial
statements
as
auditors,
we
can
provide
for
different
types
of
opinions.
We
can
provide
an
adverse
opinion
or
an
opinion
that
states
that
your
financial
statements
we
do
not
believe
are
in
conformity
with
generally
accepted
accounting
principles.
Yeah.
We
can
display
man
opinion,
which
either
means
we
are
just
completely
stepping
away
and
we're
not
going
to
we're
not
going
to
issue
an
opinion,
or
there
is
nothing
to
audit
that
we
can
even
have
any
sort
of
opinion.
U
We
can
qualify
or
issue
a
modified
opinion,
which
is
states
that
your
financial
statements
are
in
conformance
with
GAAP,
except
for
this
one
little
piece
and
we
can
issue
a
unmodified
opinion
or
our
highest
level
of
assurance.
We
can
provide
his
auditors
so
I'm
happy
to
say
for
the
financial
statements
the
city
did
receive
an
unmodified
opinion
for
this
year,
go
through
some
of
the
compliance
results
for
this
year
as
well
on
top
of
generally
accepted
auditing
standards.
U
U
There's
the
federal
single
audit
act
or
the
uniform
guidance,
which
is
auditing
standards,
specifically
designed
around
your
federal
grants
and
then
there's
the
state
single
audit
implementation
act,
which
is
kind
of
mirrors,
the
uniform
guidance.
But
it
is
for
your
state
grants
versus
your
federal
grants.
U
So
as
part
of
our
reporting
requirements,
we
have
under
government
auditing
standards.
We
have
to
communicate
what
we
consider
to
certain
types
of
deficiencies
and
internal
control.
There
are
three
levels
of
deficiencies
and
internal
control.
There
is
a
material
weakness
which
is
the
most
severe
a
material
weakness
in
internal
control
is
either
a
defect
in
the
design
or
operation
of
a
control
that
has
led
to
or
could
lead
to,
a
material
misstatement.
U
Your
financial
statements,
a
happy
to
say
that
the
city
did
not
have
any
internal
control
weaknesses
that
we
consider
to
be
material
weaknesses
in
the
current
year.
The
most
the
next
item,
not
quite
as
severe
as
a
material
weakness,
but
still
under
government
auditing
standards
required
to
be
communicated
to
those
charged
with
governance
or
the
council
would
be
a
significant
efficiency
in
internal
control.
Again,
these
are
items
that
m'lila
are
not
a
material
weakness.
They
do
rise
to
the
level
of
being
communicated.
U
We
had
two
items
that
we
consider
to
be
significant
deficiencies
in
the
current
year.
The
most
the
least
severe
item,
just
a
controlled
efficiency
is
just
could
be
as
something
simply
as
a
minor
oversight
that
did
not
necessarily
cause
a
change
in
how
we
view
the
operation
of
internal
controls,
but
under
government
auditing
standards
we
are
required
to
communicate
those
to
the
board
or
the
council,
not
necessarily
in
the
report,
but
in
other
communications.
U
So
we'll
go
through
the
two
significant
deficiencies
we
had
this
year,
then
the
numbering
convention
is
set
forth.
My
standard,
we
don't
get
to
choose
how
they
get
numbered.
So
the
first
one
was
related
to
the
financial
statement.
Closing
process-
and
this
is
just
has
to
relate
to
the
the
multitude
of
journal
entries
that
came
in
after
what
was
considered
to
be
a
financial
statement.
U
U
U
A
U
U
That
indicates
any
fraud,
waste
or
abuse.
It's
literally
just
timing
for
the
second
one
and
the
first
one
is
related
to
just
some
minor
accounting
items
that,
as
a
culmination
really,
you
know,
caused
a
few
few
delays,
but
other
than
that.
That's
that,
so
any
any
questions
as
part
of
your
reporting
package
management
is
required
under
government
knowing
standards
to
provide
a
what's
called
a
corrective
action
plan.
U
You
can
see
here
that
Barbara
and
our
team
have
put
together
a
good,
solid
plan
of
how
they're
going
to
overcome
these
issues,
and
I
am
from
what
I
understand
a
lot
of
the
nepali.
The
procedures
that
that
has
been
suggested
are
actually
being
considered
at
this
point
and
already
partially
in
place
and
should
be
in
place
by
the
end
of
the
year.
So
the
last
thing
last
little
thing
I'll
go
over
is
as
part
of
a
any
audit.
U
We
are
required
to
have
certain
communications
with
those
charged
with
governance
under
statement
of
accounting
standards,
number
114
or
what's
considered
a
you
see,
260
these
days
under
after
the
codification,
and
these
are
just
simple
communications
that,
if
that
arose
from
items
from
like
the
world
comes
and
in
ron's
of
the
world
had
the
boards
or
councils
and
known
about
some
of
these
issues
that
arose
during
an
audit.
Then
the
audit
failures
that
occurred
may
not
have
occurred
so.
U
U
U
Other
things
we
had,
we
had
several
audit
adjustments
this
year,
which
you
know
kind
of
culminated
into
the
significant
deficiency
that
we
stated
earlier,
and
we
had
a
few
uncorrected
misstatements
very
minor
in
very
minor
and
stature
things.
Nothing
that
we
would
consider
material
by
any
means,
and
so
we
had
no
disagreements
with
management,
and
we
also
just
needed
to
let
you
know
that
we
separately
communicated
three
control
deficiencies
to
management
in
a
management
letter
that
should
be
part
of
your
PDF
copy
of
this
report
that
you
you
received.
So
in
closing.
A
Thank
you
very
much
and
I
do
want
to
shout
out
to
our
newly
formed
Audit
Committee,
who
also
received
this
presentation
this
afternoon
and
actually
in
a
bit
more
detail.
If
I
recall,
I
think
it
was
like
an
hour
long
presentation
and
our
Finance
Committee,
but
so
the
Audit
Committee
will
be
interested
in
the
finance
department,
implementing
these
recommendations
and
correcting
these
deficiencies,
and
earlier
Barbara
assured
us
that
next
year
there
won't
be
anywhere
near
60
adjustments
after
the
audit
I
mean
after
the
close
of
the
financials.
A
So
we
really
appreciate
it
and
for
all
the
people
who
are
very
interested
in
our
our
numbers.
The
kafir',
which
is
the
comprehensive
annual
financial
report,
is
also
attached
as
a
document,
and
so
you
can
learn
all
sorts
of
great
things
about
the
city
and
all
the
numbers,
the
actual.
Once
it's
closed
and
I,
think
it's
it's
like
in
the
oh
yeah,
but
like
150
pages
more
than
that,
a
lot.
B
B
B
V
The
city
has
been
requested
by
the
Buncombe
County
EDC
to
consider
a
performance-based
incentive
agreement
under
the
city's
economic
development
policy
to
an
existing
Asheville
manufacturing
facility
operated
by
burial
beer
company
LLC.
The
purpose
of
this
city's
participation
would
be
to
help
the
company
make
additional
investments
in
the
city
for
expenditures
to
acquire
and
install
machinery
and
equipment
and
make
facility
improvements
which
would
increase
the
tax
base
in
the
city,
as
determined
by
the
Buncombe
County
tax
department,
in
the
amount
of
1.8
million
dollars,
and
to
create
17
new
median
wage
jobs
with
benefits.
V
It
should
be
noted
that
the
company
is
a
living
wage
certified
company.
It's
also
as
I've
noted
performance-based
agreement
that
would
be
based
on
a
reimbursement,
a
grant
reimbursement
of
50
percent
of
the
new
incremental
increased
taxes
by
the
project
for
a
period
of
a
five-year
agreement
based
on
the
1.8
million
dollar
investment.
V
So
so
both
the
city
and
the
company
know
what
the
limits
of
our
investment
in
the
project
would
be.
North
Carolina
state
law
requires
a
public
hearing
to
be
held
before
an
incentive
grant
can
be
officially
awarded.
This
meets
the
council's
goal
for
helping
a
thriving
local
economy.
It
has
been
previously
considered
by
council.
I'll
take
just
a
moment.
This
project
was
originally
contemplated
in
late.
Nineteen
excuse
me
in
2015-16
that
our
process
generally
is
to
to
get
councils
interest
in
participating
in
a
project
as
we
are
allowed
to
do.
V
Confidentially,
a
public
here
or
a
public
announcement,
is
made
by
the
company
that
public
announcement
is
made,
and
then
we
proceeded
to
hold
the
public
hearing
and
publicly
ratify
any
council
participation
and
the
county
does
likewise.
In
this
case,
the
good
news
is,
the
company
has
been
active,
they've
been
busy
working
and
the
project
has
been
proceeding
and
it's
and
it's
a
great
project
that
they're
they're
nearing
completion
home.
V
This
again
supports
the
growth
of
existing
manufacturing
inside
the
city
limits,
it's
performance,
driven,
meaning
that
the
agreement
and
the
funding
is
not
distributed
until
after
the
job
and
investments
are
achieved
and
verified.
It
supports
capital
investment
in
the
city
and
supports
regional
and
state
cooperation
and
economic
development.
As
noted
this
there's
a
formula
that
we
use,
and
in
this
case
50
percent
of
the
new
increment
increase
for
a
five-year
period,
would
be
the
the
grant
based
on
performance.
V
That
concludes
my
report.
Doug
Reiser,
who
is
one
of
the
cofounders
of
burial
beer,
is
present
tonight.
I
would
ask
him
if
he
would
make
just
a
couple
of
brief
comments
about
burial
dealers
work
in
the
community
and
and
what
they're
doing
with
this
project
mayor
and
then
you
would
be
able
to
open
the
public
hearing
and
I'll
be
available
now
or
after
or
during
the
public
hearing.
To
answer
any
questions
that
council
has.
W
L
P
M
W
W
We
moved
here
in
2012
with
a
newborn,
a
small
pocket
cash
and
a
crazy
pipe
dream
to
open
a
30-gallon
little
brewery
in
a
southern
part
of
the
downtown
that
didn't
even
have
a
name
at
the
time,
and
people
didn't
like
to
walk
around
down
there.
We've
since
grown
by
leaps
and
bounds
organically
reinvesting
customer
dollars
back
into
our
own
spaces,
building
a
tack
room
that
has
become
a
little
slice
of
Asheville
to
visitors
from
around
the
world.
W
A
welcoming
place
for
creators
in
this
local
community
and
I
think
sustainable
and
really
inspiring
place
from
the
employees
that
work
for
us.
We've
also
tirelessly
traveled
the
globe
tim.
Normally
my
partner
and
I
spree
spreading
the
gospel
as
we
like
to
say
it
about
the
Asheville
spirit
and
it's
helped
us
garner
a
lot
of
wonderful
national
claim
for
Asheville
and
it's
beer.
Community.
W
This
year
we
were
named
the
number
five
small
Brewer
in
the
world
by
craft
beer
brewing
magazine
still
an
unbelievable
ride
for
five
years
from
us
to
go
from
brewing
and
pots
and
pans,
basically
on
the
south
slope,
to
building
what
we
now
hope
to
open
in
a
couple
months
down
in
the
bill
more
village
area,
which
is
our
forestry
camp
project.
We
are
more
than
a
brewery
at
burial
we
have
grown
horizontally
sustainably,
allowing
our
team
to
help
foster
growth
into
other
spaces
like
apparel
and
construction
and
winemaking.
L
W
Things
that
we
continue
to
grow
into
without
just
trying
to
become
a
maximum
brand,
something
that's
been
really
important,
Tim
and
I
in
something
that
we
continue
to
foster
with
our
team.
We
have
invested
time
and
effort
in
growing
organically,
not
only
as
a
company,
but
as
a
team.
We
have
bartenders
that
are
art
directors.
We
have
former
cabinet
makers
that
are
had
contractors.
We
have.
W
W
W
To
reinvigorate
something
that
was
dead
and
decaying,
it's
something
that
we
feel
very
strongly
about.
This
is
a
ninety-year-old
property
that
was
federally
built
to
house.
The
CCC
Civilian
Conservation
Corps
and
you
might
be
familiar
with
it
had
fallen
on
worst
times
became
kind
of
a
transient
camp
for
homeless.
There
was
a
skate
park
there
at
one
point,
some
pretty
weird
graffiti.
W
W
We
are
almost
there.
We're
excited
to
share
it
with
everybody
here.
We
think
it
is
the
perfect
perfect
outlet
for
Asheville's
creative
spirit,
giving
the
microphone
to
the
makers
of
awesome
products
from
around
this
world
in
food
and
beverage
and
beyond,
and
allowing
them
to
share
their
stories
here
in
Nashville,
with
our
local,
with
our
local
creators.
I
just.
W
One
last
moment
to
in
conclusion,
thank
you
guys.
Without
this
gift
we
wouldn't
have
been
able
to
do
it.
We've
invested
since
we've
made
this
commitment
with
the
city.
We've
invested
over
three
million
dollars
ourselves
in
building
this
property
and
our
other
project
downtown
we've
also
added
at
least
25
jobs.
As
of
today,
we
have
two
more
hires
coming
in
next
week,
including
expanding
into
new
places
like
media
in
apparel,
and
it's
been
a
lot
of
fun
for
us.
So
thank
you
guys
so
much
thank.
B
I
I
Thank
You,
mayor
and
city
council
for
letting
me
speak:
I
leave
the
industry,
expansion
and
Workforce
Development
programs
for
the
economic
development
coalition
and
we're
a
proud
partner
of
the
Buncombe
County
city
of
Asheville
Council
and
the
Asheville
area.
Chamber
and
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
speak
of
as
you've
heard,
this
fast-growing
locally
headquartered
manufacturer
here
here
in
Asheville,
our
friends
at
berry,
Oh
beer.
In
the
last
decade,
the
the
brewery
employment
has
grown
over
fourteen
hundred
percent.
I
That's
one
thousand
four
hundred
percent
here
in
Asheville
metro
area
and
Vario
beer
is
an
important
part
of
that
growth
story,
not
just
because
of
the
kind
of
quality
employer
that
they
continue
to
be
or
because
we
happen
to
be
fans
of
their
product,
but
because
burial
fits
squarely
in
the
sights
of
our
AVL
5x5
strategic
plan,
which
you
all
are
aware
of.
Growing
high
wage,
sustainable
and
diversified
employers
here
in
the
city
of
Asheville.
I
So
expansions
like
this
as
Sam
mentioned,
increase
our
tax
base,
create
career
ladder,
opportunities
for
our
residents
and
tell
other
aspiring
startups
and
businesses
that
Asheville
is
a
place
to
grow
a
world-class
business.
So
thank
you
for
your
consideration
and
thank
you
for
your
support
of
this
homegrown
success
story.
Thank
you.
Thanks.
B
A
B
B
All
right
have
a
motion
in
a
second
to
continue
item
b2,
March
26.
Is
there
anyone
wishing
to
comment
on
the
motion
to
continue
item
B,
all
right,
all
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
all
right.
Next
is
a
public
hearing
to
consider
the
conditional
zoning,
a
property
at
62,
Fairview
Road
from
commercial
industrial
district
to
lodging
expansion
conditional
zone
for
the
development
of
a
six-story
170
room
hotel
with
a
restaurant
s.
Bernstein
is
here
to
present
the
project.
Y
Members
of
the
public,
as
was
stated,
this
is
a
request
for
a
conditional
zoning
from
CI
commercial
industrial
to
lodging
expansion.
Conditional
zoning
district
for
the
new
lodging
use.
The
project
site
consists
of
a
single
parcel,
3.7
acres
in
size
at
62,
Fairview
Road.
This
is
just
south
east
of
Biltmore
village.
Y
The
parcel
is
currently
zoned
commercial
industrial,
as
was
stated
adjacent
parcels
are
commercial
industrial
and
across
the
property,
is
bounded
by
railroad
line
to
the
north
and
across
that
is
urban
places.
Owning
there's,
also
River
District,
Community,
Business
and
urban
place.
Conditional
zoning
in
the
than
any
the
site
currently
has
a
building
on
its
that
would
be
removed,
as
shown
here
on
the
Exhibit
B
map,
also
of
note
with
the
site,
it's
a
brownfield
site
and
it's
also
within
the
floodplain
of
the
sweet'n
Creek.
Y
So
there's
a
variety
of
a
retail
office,
retail
and
office
uses
nearby.
The
proposal
is
to
construct
a
hotel
use
on
the
site
that
also
has
meeting
and
investment
space
125
seat
restaurant.
The
hotel
is
170
rooms.
There's
associated
parking
is
shown
on
the
site
plan.
The
hotel
building
is
shown
at
six
storeys
in
height
the
restaurant
that
is
closer
up
to
Fairview
Road.
That's
two
stories.
The
vehicular
access
to
the
site
is
shown
on
the
site
plan
is
just
a
single
driveway
from
Fairview
Road.
Y
There
is
secondary
access
that
you
can
see
around
the
rear
of
the
site
that
goes
out
a
shared
right-of-way
to
the
side.
There's
a
hundred
and
forty
parking
spaces
throughout
that
site.
Sidewalks
are
required
to
be
10
feet
for
the
lodging
expansion
district.
There's
really
limited
frontage
of
the
further
parcel,
but
the
sidewalks
that
they
will
construct
will
be
10
feet
and
meet
that
standard,
as
well
as
a
10
foot
wide
walkway
that
enters
into
the
site
where
the
applicant
has
agreed
to
place
a
transit
shelter.
Y
It
just
wasn't
sufficient
with
directly
at
the
street,
so
they'll
place
that
transit
shelter
in
the
site.
With
an
access
for
public
use,
landscaping
is
required,
for
the
project
includes
street
trees,
parking
lot
landscaping,
building
impact
landscaping,
it's
all
on
the
site
on
the
plans
that
you've
received
in
your
packets
there's
a
number
of
design
and
operational
standards
that
go
along
with
the
lodging
expansion
district
and
the
plans
are
able
to
meet
those
they
do
comply.
There
is
one
condition
for
this
proposal
that
has
to
do
with
the
existing
site
condition.
Y
That's
detailed
in
the
report.
Lodging
expansion
asks
for
a
hundred
foot
minimum
lot
frontage.
This
site
has
only
about
forty
seven
feet
of
frontage
and
that's
existing
going
back
to
at
least
nineteen
forty
four.
The
applicant
held
the
required
neighborhood
meetings.
The
project
was
approved
with
conditions
by
the
Technical
Review
Committee
in
July.
Y
Y
Y
No,
no,
not
not
much
as
the
there
were
two
members
of
the
public
who
spoke
at
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Commission
meeting
last
month
and
right
at
the
beginning,
when
the
project
was
was
submitted,
we
did
have
a
couple
of
emails
from
folks,
primarily
the
concerns
that
we've
heard
have
been
regarding
existing
traffic
volume
on
Fairview,
Road
and
one.
But
the
comments
that
we
received
at
Planning
and
Zoning
Commission
were
in
support
of
the
project
from
these
two
nearby
property
owners.
Y
Y
And
natural
materials
there's
also
a
requests
for
non
reflective
glass,
that's
something
that
we
have
for
downtown
projects,
so
we're
trying
to
add
in
some
of
this
other
places
where
pedestrian
activity
is
prioritized
and
then
we
also
added
a
last
condition
regarding
signage
that
they
would
be
subject
to
the
signage
of
the
underlying
zoning
district.
So,
aside
from
that
staff
recommends
approval
of
this
project
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have.
Z
Good
evening
mayor
members
of
council
staff,
my
name
is
Derrick
Allen
and
I
represent
the
developer
on
this
project.
I
do
also
have
with
me
Michael
Hamilton
from
Rock
Bridge
is
the
development
group
Tom
Hogan,
whose
architect
and
Chris
day
who's
the
engineer
I
also
want
to
thank
Jessica
and
the
rest
of
staff.
We've
met
with
interim
city
manager,
the
new
man,
city
manager,
Stephanie
Monson
doll,
Jessica
talked
to
paul
d'angelo
about
affordable
housing
issues
and
opportunities,
own
issues,
just
a
lot
of
folks
that
have
had
input
on
it.
Z
Z
I
do
want
to
address
an
issue
that
I've
discussed
with
with
folks
here
recently,
and
that
is
just
the
hotels
in
general
we're
in
a
time
period
right
now,
where
I
think
those
things
are
important
and
we
have
to
look
at
these
on
a
case-by-case
basis
and
see
what's
unique
and
what
makes
sense
both
the
terms
of
the
context
and
where
it's
being
proposed
and
what
what's
happening
with
it.
Does
it
serve
other
things
that
we
need
in
our
community?
Is
it
something
that's
unique
to
Asheville?
Does
it
make
sense?
Z
There
are
some
that
I
know
we
wish
we
could
take
back
there's
some
that
came
through
before
required,
City
Council
hearings.
There
were
some
that
came
through
afterwards
that
maybe
were
improvidently
granted
and
so
I
think
we
have
to
take
a
hard
look
now
to
make
sure
that
we
are
letting
those
ones
that
do
make
sense
go
through,
and
with
that
in
mind,
I
think
it's
important
that
we
as
I
use
professionals,
city
staff
and
ultimately
City
Council,
are
looking
at
those
individually
and
giving
them
the
the
care
and
attention
they
deserve
with
Rockbridge.
Z
We
think
we
have
that
unique
project
in
this
particular
location.
They
are
independent
hotel
owner
operators,
they've
got
hotel
in
Nashville
and
in
Dallas
and
in
each
of
those
hotel
locations.
They
seek
out
specific
characteristics
of
that
community
and
highlight
them
in
Nashville's
its
its
music
Nashville
is
a
music
town
here
in
Nashville.
It
makes
sense
that
it's
going
to
be
all
things:
craft,
craft,
restaurant,
craft,
beer,
craft,
coffee,
we've
been
talking
with
the
ownership
group
for
table
and
all
day
which
was
old,
Todd's
and
high
five
coffee
about
locating
down
in
the
village.
Z
In
this
particular
location,
it's
170
room,
hotel,
140
parking
places.
We
tried
to
limit
the
parking
in
terms
of
the
number
of
parking
places
and
we
price
the
parking
on
the
north
side
of
the
building,
going
back
up
the
hill
on
the
side.
With
this
the
big
retaining
wall
under
district
and
and
the
non
buildable
area,
that's
adjacent
to
the
railroad
tracks,
it
has
125
seat
restaurant.
Z
Z
That's
the
one
you
can
see
from
the
bridge
over
in
the
village,
so
it's
just
a
little
bit
higher
than
that
retaining
wall
and
takes
it
out
of
you
from
from
that
perspective,
ten-foot
wide
sidewalks
throughout
the
site
and
on
favori
Road
I
have
a
hundred
two
hundred
and
twenty
employees
and
the
applicant
has
committed
to
a
living
wage
from
all
those
employees,
including
bus
passes
for
all
employees.
In
addition,
we
have
a
transit
shelter
that
we've
committed
to,
and
shuttle
for
guests
in
terms
of
the
timing
of
this
project
is
a
little
bit
unfortunate.
Z
There's
a
delay
in
the
project.
The
neighborhood
meeting
was
back
in
June
and
there
was
no
opposition.
Then
TRC
approval
came
right
after
that
in
July,
and
then
we
had
multiple
meetings
and
new
requirements
from
the
NCDOT
in
terms
of
traffic
impact
analysis
and
how
those
were
reviewed
that
went
back
and
forth
and
in
fact
we
only
received
the
comms
from
NCDOT
last
week.
In
terms
of
continuing
that
timing,
we
didn't
we
weren't
heard
by
Planning
and
Zoning
until
last
month,
those
unanimous
of
approval
there
and
no
opposition.
In
its
speakers.
Only
speakers
don't
support.
Z
This
project
site
is
currently
35,000
square
feet
of
warehouse
space
built
about
60
years
ago.
It's
located
just
down
from
the
district
apartment
site
that,
as
a
refresher
for
you,
is
three
hundred
and
nine
units
484
beds
up
on
the
hill
very
visible.
This
is
in
an
opportunity
zone.
The
window,
as
you
might
know,
is
tight
for
opportunity's
own
projects.
Z
Right
now,
I
understand
the
council
has
been
briefed
by
some
of
our
state
and
other
IDI
folks
about
this
I've
discussed
the
project
with
paul
d'angelo
have
asked
them
to
be
available
tonight
for
any
questions
that
you
have
on
the
opportunity
zone,
concept
and
application
to
this
particular
product
project.
The
site
is
also
in
a
brownfield
site.
Every
time
we
see
a
development
project
come
through
now.
The
first
question
I'm
getting
is:
can
we
use
this
for
multifamily?
Go
use
this
for
affordable
housing?
Here,
it's
not
eligible
for
any
residential.
Z
Any
long-term
residential,
not
eligible
for
multifamily
without
remediation
to
the
site,
consisted
with
the
brownsville
agreement.
It
is
eligible
for
hotel
use
in
restaurant
use
its
infill
development.
We've
heard
a
lot
about
that
so
far
just
tonight
and
it
bookends
the
bit
more
village
with
hotel
comfortable
to
the
bohemian
on
the
other
side
of
the
village.
It
helps
to
finish
out
the
sidewalk
improvements
that
the
district
and
the
city
are
completing
that
connects
the
district
apartments
and
the
neighborhoods
to
the
north
of
district
apartments
devote
our
village.
Z
It's
a
comprehensive
plan
compliant,
and
it
just
makes
sense
for
this
area.
It
really
does,
as
we
continue
our
conversation
in
folks
who
we
would
talk
to.
We
thought
it's
going
to
be
important
for
us
to
talk
to
a
lot
of
the
retailers
that
are
in
and
around
the
Biltmore
village
area.
Those
retailers
are
local
shops,
locally,
owned,
locally
operated.
You
don't
see
a
lot
of
national
brands
in
that
area
and
there's
a
village
of
craftsmen,
both
the
food,
the
shops
etc,
and
our
original
thought
we
started.
Z
Those
discussions
was
that
it
was
going
to
be
about
the
patrons
that
might
be
coming
to
their
shops
based
on
the
hotel
occupants
and
what
became
clear
was
that
it
was
more
than
just
that
for
them.
There
are
concerns
from
some
of
the
Biltmore
village
merchants
that
that
area
of
that
side
of
the
war
village
lacks
cohesiveness
lacks
a
hard
edge,
and
they
were
really
concerned
about
that,
and
they
looked
at
this
as
a
way
to
to
give
some
definitiveness
and
some
comprehensive
planning
to
that
side
of
Biltmore
village.
Z
Addressing
the
issues
that
we've
heard
come
up
either
from
City
Council
members
or
from
staff
or
from
city
manager
traffic.
That
was
the
number
one
thing
they
came
up
and
looking
at
the
the
traffic
impact
analysis
and
getting
back
to
comets
from
NCDOT
last
week,
once
those
improvements
go
into
place
for
the
intersections
that
are
involved
and
they're
right
below
this
project,
traffic
will
improve.
Z
It
improves
their
in
terms
of
the
level
of
service
just
for
informational
purposes,
acceptable
level
of
service
for
signalized
intersections
as
deep
right
now,
the
existing
signal
has
sweetened
Creek
in
London.
Road
operates
as
a
C
in
the
evening
with
northbound
southbound
bound
operating
at
D
and
E
the
existing
signal
there
is
semi
actuated,
with
loops
only
at
London
Road,
with
the
project
improvements
with
loops
on
all
approaches.
Z
Z
Other
issues
that
we
heard
about,
or
density
and
parking
on,
the
site
due
to
easement
flood
pains
setback,
the
building
envelope,
it's
actually
pretty
small.
The
building
envelope
is
exactly
where
you
see
that
building.
If
you
look
at
page
15
of
your
council
packet,
you
will
see
that
the
easements
floodplain
and
setbacks
really
tighten
in
where
you
can
put
that
building
and
everything
inside
the
building
envelope
consists
of
the
hotel
and
almost
all
of
the
parking
is
outside
of
that
area
outside
of
the
building
envelope.
Z
We've
also
tried
to
shield
the
parking
from
view.
If
you
look
at
this,
this
is
essentially
the
view
coming
up.
Fairview
Road,
the
majority
of
the
parking
is
on
the
back
side
of
this
between
the
hotel
and
the
railroad
tracks,
and
the
rest
of
the
parking
is
on
the
hillside
behind
on
the
north
side
of
the
proposed
hotel.
Z
Another
concern
was
that
this
as
a
town
center
and
the
Comprehensive
Plan,
and
it
have
all
elements
of
a
town
center,
they
answer
that
is
well.
It
can't
it's
too
small
of
a
site,
it's
3.7
acres,
but
the
thing
that
I
think
makes
sense
is
to
back
up
and
look
at
this
in
the
total
context
of
the
entire
patchwork
of
quilt.
That's
down
in
Biltmore
village,
and
if
you
stand
at
25,000
feet,
then
you
have
a
hotel
on
either
end
or
village.
Z
Z
With
those
things
in
mind,
I'll
get
back
to
the
original
comments.
I
had
on
the
hotel.
Turning
down
all
projects,
it's
because
of
our
hotels
makes
no
more
sense
than
letting
them
all
through.
We
want
you
as
citizens.
We
want
you
as
develop
still
closely
at
the
mall.
We
want
you
to
look
for
the
unique
ones.
We
want
you
to
look
for
the
ones
that
further
other
uses.
Other
people
like
the
folks
in
the
village
here
you
have
an
opportunity
zone
that
the
city
designated.
Z
S
Yeah,
it's
e'terica
on
the
issue,
the
traffic,
so
so,
when
you
guys
did
the
you
guys,
did
the
traffic
analysis
II,
you
were
looking
at
the
impact
you
were
looking
at
the
intersection
of
Fairview,
Road
and
s-sweetie
right.
What
was
what
you
require?
Did
you
all
look
at
all
the
intersection
between
sweet,
Creek
and
Hendersonville
Road,
the
it's
kind
of
a
quarter
mile
up
I
understand
the
approach
you're
talking
about.
Then
you
know
you
get
once
you
get
past
that
right.
S
Z
AA
Yes,
thank
you.
Chris
Davis
civil
design
concepts,
the
intersections
there
was
approximately
seven
intersections
that
were
evaluated.
It
did
not
go
all
the
way
up
to
Henderson
Mill
Road
and
included
the
signalized
intersection
that
Derek
made
reference
at
London,
Road
and
Sweden
Creek,
as
well
as
up
at
stoner
all
the
way
over
at
River
Mills.
The
project
and
the
traffic
study
included
both
the
district
traffic
study
that
was
done
recently
and
the
river
mills
apartments
over
off
of
Thompson
Street.
AA
S
This
may
be
I'm
sorry,
I'm,
jarem,
I'm,
sort
of
jumping
between
folks
for
Jessica
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
well.
This
is
currently
commercial
industrial
says
it's
turning
in
industrial
zoning
right
now,
okay,
and
then
has
it
relate
our
new
comp
plan.
This
area
is
what
is
this?
What
is
the
idea?
It's.
S
Y
G
And
actually
Jessica,
while
you're
still
there
so
in
again
and
looking
at
the
comp
plan
and
the
the
images
that
we
have
about
what
we
want
town
centers
to
look
like
they,
in
fact,
the
image
that
I'm
looking
at
has
you
know
some
buildings
and
a
bunch
of
surface
parking
that
we
want
less
of
that
and
we
want
more
of
you
know
higher
density.
There's,
not
a
parking
lot
to
be
seen.
G
Presumably
parking
is
underneath
or
internal
or
you
know,
so
we
we
want
more
of
that
and
Derek
I
hear
you
saying
that
that
you
you
maybe
couldn't
you
couldn't
put
structures
in
the
places
where
the
parking
is
but
I
guess
Mike.
My
question
to
anybody
is
you
know
I
guess
to
Jessica
its.
You
know:
how
do
you
see
this
project
as
getting
us
toward
that
vision
of
what
we
want
in
a
town
center
and
then
I
realized?
This
is
a
single
site
and
it
may
be
small,
but
could
you
could
you
go
up?
G
Y
M
Y
Y
Land-Use
category
is
looking
for
a
lot,
it's
looking
for
a
lot,
and
we
know
that
you're
not
going
to
get
all
of
that
on
13.7,
a
cur
piece
of
property,
so
the
use
and
the
development
that
was
proposed
hits
a
number
of
those
elements
of
the
town
center
and
that
is
the
use
is
considered
appropriate.
The
lodging
use,
as
well
as
the
restaurant
use
those
are
both
anticipated
in
this
vicinity
in
this
category.
The
the
addition
of
the
transit
shelter,
the
sidewalk
connections.
Those
are
all
elements
that
the
the
town
center
is
looking
for.
Y
The
fact
that
a
smaller
building
is
as
close
to
the
street
as
it
can
get.
You
know
that
kind
of
knits
itself
a
little
bit
better
into
Fairview
Road
than
and
having
the
taller
portion
of
the
building
to
the
rear,
sure
we'd
love
to
see
all
structured
parking,
but
this
as
far
as
this
and
the
requirements
of
the
district
by
not
having
the
parking
in
front
of
the
building.
Y
S
Got
a
flipped
question
to
Julie's
question
of
you
know.
We
just
heard
earlier
today
this
meeting
when
a
prior
meeting
we
were
talking
about
the
Community
Economic
Development,
there's
all
my
jobs.
We
were
talking
about
the
need
to
have
one
of
the
questions.
I
was
asking,
was
you
know
in
terms
what's
one
of
the
biggest
impediments
were
having
for
in
terms
of
jobs
and
recruiting
manufacturing,
and
all
that
her
we
heard?
Was
that
there's
not
not.
S
Put
it
in
right
and
and
in
that
previous,
you
know
several
years
ago,
you
know
we
had
the
same
issue
at
the
intersection
of
sweetie
Creek,
most
Gaborone,
where
you
had
a
you,
had
a
commercial
spot
and
that
land
was
turned
into
apartments,
and
so
I
guess.
My
question
here
is
as
sort
of
this
is
it.
This
is
going
in
a
different
direction
where
Julie
was
going
with
it,
but
you
know
I
understand.
S
Every
day,
I
know
it
really
well
right.
I
mean
that's
sort
of
an
interesting
little
piece
of
property
tucked
away
over
there,
but
it
doesn't
seem
to
me
to
be
that
out
of
character
to
see
that
where
that
is
being
able
to
be
used
for
some
type
of
industrial,
it's
a
interesting
staffs
perspective
on
that
as
well.
When.
Y
The
2025
plan,
which
you
know,
is
no
longer
the
current
plan.
There
was
a
strategy
or
there's
a
goal
that
was
specifically
stated.
That
said,
industrial
is
owned,
land
should
be
reserved
for
industrial
purposes,
and
in
my
time
here
we
had
a
number
of
application,
and,
after
after
application
that
came
forward
for
residential
projects
that
didn't
necessarily.
B
We
had
several
of
them
come
for
it
and
I
think
the
way
we
really
handled
it
was
kind
of
on
a
case
by
case
basis,
but
if
it
was
zoned
industrial
really,
we
did
do
the
pause
button
and
we
had
staff
tell
us
whether
there
was
any
viable
use
for
it
anymore.
For
some
industrial
purpose,
I
mean
obviously
it's
a
different
day
today,
there's
different
uses
of
land
but
trying
to
make
sure
we
at
least
walk
through
that
process
before
we're
rezoning
anything
that
is
industrial
cuz
to
go.
B
AB
Evening,
mayor
and
council,
my
name
is
Benjamin
Mitchell
here
on
behalf
of
an
adjacent
property
owner
to
this
evening,
and
I
wanted
to
express
our
wholehearted
support
for
this
project,
not
to
go
to
the
doc
cam,
but
mr.
Bernstein
showed
an
exhibit
earlier.
That
gave
us
an
idea
of
the
adjacent
parcels
and
my
company
is
property
manager
for
one
within
50
yards
of
this
site.
AB
It's
also
a
brownfield
site
and
over
the
course
of
the
last
year,
a
year
and
a
half
we've
shown
this
site
to
maybe
a
dozen
or
more
potential
tenants
or
so
forth,
and
so
on
and
folks
just
aren't
ready
to
go
over
there
because
there
isn't
a
catalyst
for
foot
traffic
or
otherwise
in
that
part
of
the
village.
So
we
would
think
that
the
hotel
would
help
drive
that
demand
for
our
later
investing
additional
capital
there
in
the
vicinity
building
whether
another
restaurant
or
office
space
or
what
have
you.
AB
It
seems
to
me
that
here
this
particular
use
makes
a
nice
transfer
from
the
neighboring
historic
use
gradually
going
from
the
retail
office
to
a
hotel,
the
district
Department
that
we've
already
mentioned
tonight.
Then
we
have
the
agreement
that
was
just
a
further
earlier
this
evening,
with
burial
brewing
within
probably
another
four
yards,
easy
walking
distance
from
this
use.
AB
For
those
of
you
who
are
familiar
with
the
village
is
sort
of
shield-shaped,
and
on
this
portion
of
the
village
there
seems
to
be
a
lack
of
a
lodging
use
within
six
or
eight
hundred
yards.
A
lot
of
terrain
change
there
as
well
makes
it
difficult
for
folks
who
come
to
visit
us
and
I
believe.
That's
all.
Thank
you.
N
Mayor
members
of
City
Council,
my
name
is
Karl
kun
and
I'm,
the
owner
of
property
for
Fairview
Road,
immediately
adjacent
to
this
proposed
project,
I'm,
also
the
one
who
will
be
most
impacted
as
we
would
share
a
common
driveway
I'm,
uniquely
familiar
with
the
subject
property,
its
history
and
development.
As
you
may
be
aware,
it's
a
brownfield
site
has
floodplain
issues
and
is
also
identified
by
the
city
of
Asheville
with
an
opportunity
zone
designation.
N
This
designation
means
that
the
area's
underutilized
for
development
and
in
need
of
economic
stimulus
it
will
take
a
strong
developer
with
the
necessary
economic
backing
to
develop
this
site.
I'm
a
realist
and
know
that,
with
the
locations
proximity
to
Biltmore
village,
it
should
be
upgraded
to
its
highest
and
best
use
and
contribute
to
the
city's
tax
base.
I
also
realize
that
this
project
will
likely
cause
a
relocation
of
my
current
business
operation
as
the
area
redeveloped
itself.
That
said,
I
have
no
financial
interest
in
this
project.
I'm
in
favor
of
this
project.
N
I'll
also
ask
that
you
approve
this
project
to
begin
revitalizing.
This
area,
Biltmore
village
I,
would
also
like
to
offer
one
additional
piece
of
information
for
your
consideration.
You
could
easily
contribute
to
the
city's
coffers
by
enforcing
the
25
mile
per
hour,
speed
limit
at
this
site
on
Fairview
Road.
It's
only
a
matter
of
time
before
one
of
my
trucks
or
myself
are
involved
in
an
accident
caused
by
speeding
vehicles
flying
down
Fairview
Road.
This
merits
your
review.
Thank
you.
B
AC
So
my
interest
is
in
low-income
people
benefiting
from
it
and
so
far
I
haven't
heard
I
heard
that
there
were
going
to
be
jobs
that
were
living
wage,
but
the
way
that
opportunity
is
born
in
my
mind
and
the
way
this
country
works
is
an
authorship
and
not
so
much
an
employment.
The
other
thing
is
that
it
may
be
the
highest
and
best
useful,
and
once
you
downs
on
something,
we
know
how
that
works
as
we
do
in
South
Charlotte
Street
and
Martin
Luther
King,
Drive
hotels.
AC
We
got
a
boomed
of
hotels
here,
I
know
we
talk
about
opportunities
as
far
as
an
opportunity
zone
is
concerned,
but
I'd
like
to
hear
some
more
discussion
about
whether
other
opportunities
can
be
brought
for
the
fact
that
these
investors
are
going
to
get
capital
gains.
Abatement
and
I
know
that
I,
don't
think
the
legislation
has
been
finished.
Writing
yet,
but
I'd
like
to
be
able
to
sit
down
and
someone,
along
with
other
low-income
people,
to
talk
about
what
we're
going
to
get
out
of
it.
AC
AC
N
AC
Just
like
this,
the
next
time
I
get
in
trouble
too
they're
great,
but
I
want
to
talk
to
them
about
what
they're
gonna
do
for
us.
So
even
if
you
give
them
a
conditional
and
you
consider
it
in
the
final
end,
unless
we
were
prepared
to
go
forward
as
a
community
in
terms
of
us
benefiting
both
of
us
who
qualified
this
is
almost
because
we
are
low-income.
AC
L
AC
L
AD
For
the
opportunity,
I
didn't
plan
on
speaking
either
like
Miss
Williams,
but
like
mr.
Kapoor
I'm,
a
resident
of
the
Southside
I
Drive
this
area,
all
the
time
and
I'm
sorry
Ashley,
Edwards,
southside
resident
I,
don't
think
the
traffic
concerns
can
be
understated
here
and
I
believed
that
the
we
should
take
into
consideration
the
lights
more
towards
the
most
popular
tourist
destination
in
North
Carolina,
and
take
those
into
consideration.
AD
The
traffic
already
backs
up
to
the
area
where
they're
talking
about
putting
this
project
and
so
that
with
the
pedestrian
traffic
concerns
in
the
areas
some
of
the
businesses
that
they
approached
that
were
mentioned
here
tonight,
the
Hillman
Kotova.
There
are
no
walkable
areas
to
get
to
those
places
from
this
site,
and
so
that
also,
would
you
know
something
that
would
need
to
be
improved,
so
I
support.
AD
You
know
some
development
in
this
area
because
it
does
not
match
the
other
side
of
Biltmore
village,
but
I
live
in
a
similar
area
where
Miss
Williams
does
and
I.
You
know
think
that
that
should
be
something
that's
brought
into
the
mix:
here's
how
to
how
to
bring
the
neighborhood
around
while
we're
these
developments
are
going,
especially
on
that
side.
So
I'd
like
to
you
to
consider
the
traffic
as
well
Thanks.
S
S
This
I've
got
a
couple
of
concerns
that
that
that
that
there
really
can't
be
can't
be
addressed,
I
mean
what
is
the
issue
of
traffic
and
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
the
traffic
study
was
done
on
the
on
the
roads
off
of
from
Fairview
in
London
and
I
get
all
that
the
the
the
crucial
problem
down
at
the
or
village
is
not
that
it's
the
intersection,
but
so
we
can
Creek
in
Henderson,
Mill
Road
and
that's
the
problem.
That's
we're
just
sitting
through
four
or
five
cycles
of
lights.
S
You
have
an
issue
with
that
intersection
because
folks
are
going
straight
into
using
that
to
go
to
the
bit
more
house
right
by
the
McDonald's
and
that
area
always
backs
up
and
it's
a
complete
mess
starting
at
three
o'clock.
So
so
I
understand
again
the
analysis
that
was
done.
I,
don't
necessarily
disagree
with
that
analysis
on
those
particular
areas,
but
but
the
big
problem
is.
N
S
The
traffic
is
is
really
in
the
intersection
with
Hendersonville
Road.
The
other
big
thing
that
I
see
here
is
that
you
know
in
the
Biltmore
village
area,
both
in
terms
of
in
there
and
just
along
Hendersonville
Road
in
that,
or
we
already
have
seven
hotels.
There's
the
Doubletree.
There's
the
Baymont,
there's
Aquarian
in
there's
the
grandpa,
hey
Mia,
there's
Hampton
in
there's
the
Holiday
Inn
and
there's
another
one
being
built
off
of
Thompson
Street,
so
we've
got,
we've
got
seven
going
in
there
already.
G
G
If
we
don't
start
asking
for
it-
and
this
is
not,
this
does
not
in
my
mind,
look
like
a
what
a
town
center
should
look
like
and
I
realized
it's
one
parcel,
but
I
guess
what
I
would
say
to
people
who
are
looking
to
develop
in
our
city
in
places
like
town
centers
is,
if
you,
if
you
don't,
have
enough
land
to
do
the
kinds
of
things
that
were
that
we're
looking
at
doing,
you
need
to
figure
that
out.
I
mean
if,
if,
if
mr.
G
Kuhn
is,
is
already
recognizing
that
his
business
is
going
to
need
to
leave,
then
maybe
that's
an
opportunity
for
a
bigger
Pratt,
a
bigger
parcel,
a
bigger
project,
something
that
looks
more
like
what
what
we
said
that
we
want
in
this
area
in
in
town,
centers
so
and
I.
So
I
will
also
not
not
be
supporting
this.
For
that
reason,
you
know.
B
Because
of
the
what
we've
done
with
hotels
in
the
city
is
we
require
each
one
of
them
to
come
to
us
as
a
CZ,
so
they
have
to
sit
there
and
kind
of
make
our
ordinance
fit.
Zoning
wide
so
I
think
your
comments,
probably
more
directed
at
staff
when
they're
helping
an
applicant
select
an
underlying
zoning
classification.
B
S
All
I'll
make
a
motion
if
there's
no
other
comments,
I
moved
to
recommend
denial
of
the
conditional
zoning
request
for
RV
Hotel
at
62,
Fairview,
Road,
commercial,
industrial
lodging,
expansion,
district
conditional
zone
and
five.
The
denial
is
reasonable
and
in
the
public
interest,
because
the
proposal
is
not
consistent
with
the
city's
comprehensive
plan
for
the
following
reasons:
one:
the
development
does
not
comply
with
law.
B
B
AE
B
All
right,
I
have
a
motion
and
a
second
all,
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye
all
right,
any
opposed.
Okay,
we
have
two
items,
three
items:
no,
we
have
two
items
of
unfinished
business.
The
first
is
a
an
update
on
outcomes
of
the
feasibility
study
to
create
affordable
mixed
income
communities
on
three
city-owned,
our
city,
controlled
properties,.
K
Good
evening
Council,
thank
you
for
taking
the
time
to
review
this
item
tonight.
My
name
is
Stephanie
Munson
doll,
I'm,
the
interim
assistant
planning
and
urban
design.
Director
I
am
part
of
a
team.
That's
here
tonight
to
provide
you
with
an
update
on
the
city-owned
property
redevelopment
for
affordable
housing,
and
while
we
are
not
requesting
any
action
from
you
tonight,
we
are
coming
to
make
sure
you
know
our
continued
work,
our
next
steps,
and
that
we
intend
to
come
back
to
you
in
January
with
additional
information.
K
As
a
reminder,
the
charge
that
you
asked
staff
to
do
was
to
evaluate
three
sites
that
were
in
in
town
and
of
significant
size
enough
to
see
if
we
could
use
some
of
our
affordable
housing
bond
money.
That
would
be
15
million
of
the
25
million
dollars
to
develop,
affordable
housing,
mixed
income
communities
and.
AC
I
AC
K
Positively,
the
answer
is
yes:
we
can
redevelop
all
three
of
these
sites
as
mixed
income,
affordable
communities,
but
each
one
of
them
has
its
own
opportunities,
and
it
means
that
the
timing
that
we
use
to
redevelop
them
and
the
scope
of
work
that
you
would
need
to
look
at
is
going
to
be
different
for
each
one.
So
I'm
going
to
go
over
some
findings
for
the
sites,
real
quick
for
Riverside
Drive.
K
You
did
hear
earlier
that
this
the
site
is
already
planned
for
in
the
Riverside
Drive
development
plan,
and
we
furthered
some
work
with
a
community
to
look
at
doing.
Affordable
artists
live
work
spaces
on
site.
It's
not
a
good
traditional
affording,
affordable
housing
site
because
of
its
lack
of
access
to
certain
factors
which
you'll
hear
about
later,
but
it
is
something
that
can
strengthen
the
community
South
Charlotte
Street
is
it's
a
very
important
site.
K
It
provides
a
significant
opportunity
for
the
city
to
plan
with
the
community
and
help
sustainably
grow,
an
area
that
was
extraordinarily
negatively
impacted
by
urban
renewal.
It
also
has
city
facilities
on
it
right
now,
so
it
is
not
ready
for
redevelopment.
Biltmore
Avenue,
however,
is
the
most
ready
for
redevelopment
right
now.
It
is
a
site
that
is
vacant,
and
it
provides
a
solid
opportunity
for
us
to
look
at
a
diverse
option
of
affordability
mixes
and
complement
the
Lee
Walker
Heights
development
that
is
happening
just
west
okay.
K
This
does
not
mean
that
this
funding
all
needs
to
come
from
the
city
by
any
means.
That
is
why
we
are
stressing
partnerships
here
tonight.
We
do
want
to
make
sure
that
you
that
information,
so
regarding
next
steps,
I'm
going
to
go
over
these
fairly
quickly
and
at
the
end
we
can
go
into
more
detail
about
what
they
mean,
but
we
we
are
suggesting
that
we
continue
right
away
with
a
pursuit
of
development
for
319
built
more
than
Matthew's
Ford
site
because
it
is
vacant.
K
We
would
come
back
to
you
in
January,
with
an
implementation
and
the
appropriate
next
steps.
Look
like
releasing
request
for
qualifications
and
getting
some
developers
lined
up
to
redevelop
that
site.
We
also
plan
to
release
an
RFQ
to
do
a
study
on
all
the
facilities
that
are
currently
on
that
South
Charlotte
Street
site
and
a
few
that
are
actually
around
surrounding
it.
That
will
give
us
the
information
that
we
need
to
know
about
what
it
will
it
take
to
relocate
facilities,
not
in
a
haphazard
manner
of
and
a
sustainable,
well-thought-out,
well-planned
manner.
K
K
That
again
does
not
tie
you
to
working
with
any
specific
developer,
but
it
allows
you
to
receive
a
proposal
from
someone
who
is
highly
qualified
and
has
done
similar
developments
before
now.
Going
to
ask
Bob
Eagle
to
come
up.
Bob
is
with
Lord
X
argent.
He
is
a
grimy
project
manager
for
our
external
consultants.
On
this
he
will
walk
through
the
process
and
the
more
detailed
information
behind
these
findings
and
will
all
be
available
for
questions
at
the
end.
Thank
you.
K
AF
You
Stephanie
again
my
name
is
Bob.
The
eco-floor
tech
sergeant
I
am
part
of
a
team.
We
do
have
several
sub
consultants,
and
several
of
my
partners
are
here
in
the
crowd.
So,
depending
on
your
questions,
I
may
we
may
bring
other
people
up
who
can
get
into
the
weeds
or
or
not,
as
the
case
may
be.
Thanks
for
your
patience,
the
long
agenda,
the
good
news
is
we're
almost
at
the
end.
L
AF
Of
course,
this
is
a.
There
is
a
lot
of
information
that
we
have
looked
at.
Many
of
you
have
participated
throughout
the
process.
A
lot
of
this
stuff
is
way
down
in
the
weeds
of
some
economic
pro
formas
in
some
great
detail.
I
am
merely
gonna,
give
the
highlights
so
I'm
happy
to
come
back
to
any
questions
as
I
can
our
process
that
we've
been
going
through?
AF
Basically,
since
late
February
is
a
three-phase
process,
the
first
phase
was
really
about
getting
baseline
information,
so
we
did
neighborhood
site
tours
a
lot
of
stakeholder
interviews,
a
lot
of
focus
groups.
We
did
market
research,
we
did
infrastructure
research
and
we
sort
of
looked
at
the
sites
and
in
particularly
in
their
context,
I'll
talk
about
just
a
minute.
AF
Our
second
phase
is
where
we
really
modeled
some
potential
development
scenarios,
so
I'm
going
to
show
you
what
that
looks
like
both
and
economically
and
I
want
to
emphasize
there's
other
studies
that
we
aren't
the
consultants
on,
but
that
have
been
going
on
by
your
staff,
in
particular
with
geotechnical
work
on
the
environmental
analyses.
And,
of
course
your
staff
has
been
interacting
with
a
variety
of
stakeholders
along
the
way
and
I.
AF
AF
So
a
couple
points
of
emphasis
that
I
think
are
super
important
that
it
really
evolved
as
part
of
this
project
and
I've
been
saying
this
over
and
over
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
being
super
clear
on
this
this,
while
we're
really
looking
in
some
deep
dives
about
the
suitability
of
affordable
housing
on
these
sites
and
what
can
be
done,
we
don't
want
to
make.
We
want
to
make
sure
we're
not
losing
sight
of
the
broader
community
development
opportunities
here.
AB
AF
Can
get
it's
also
about?
How
are
we
doing
projects
or
could
projects
be
done
to
it
really
improve
communities
so
we're
being
mindful
of
the
context
not
just
the
site,
but
what's
around
it,
we
looked
at
where
the
connectivity
options
can
be
we're
thinking
about
walkability
bus
routes
and
transits
all
of
these
sites.
We
looked
at
from
a
sort
of
mixed
use
and
mixed
income
perspective,
so
it
wasn't
just
about
housing
and
we
started
to
think
about
how
you
might
incorporate
open
spaces.
AF
We're
not
saying
this
is
exactly
how
you
would
do
it,
but
we
built
the
models
in
a
way
that
accommodated
that
so
we
weren't
just
maximizing
it
and
Stephanie
really
hit
that
already
and
the
community
partners
piece.
So
just
a
couple,
super
quick
highlights
on
the
phase
one.
As
I
mentioned,
we
looked
at
a
lot
of
different
pieces
in
terms
of
the
broader
context:
we've
looked
at
land
use,
transportation,
transit
bike
networks.
We
had
our
civil
engineer
at.
AF
Had
our
economics
partner
and
look
at
the
market
context
of
what
the
market
and
demographics
were,
and
then
we
did
these
individual
site
assessments.
This
is
just
one
of
many
diagrams
that
we
did
on
very
on
all
three
of
the
sites,
so
we
looked
very
specifically
at
what
their
strengths
were,
both
from
a
development
standpoint,
but
also
from
a
community
standpoint.
AF
What
their
weaknesses
were,
what
the
opportunities
were,
so
that
when
we
built
our
models,
we
were
building
up
to
something
greater
and
that
really
led
us
to
this
comparison
matrix
as
a
means
of
summary
and
sort
of
a
two
pager,
so
bear
with
me
for
a
minute.
We
really
looked
at
a
lot
of
different
factors.
This
is
sort
of
the
mentis
to
sort
of
summarize
the
ability
of
these
sites
to
accomplish
many
things.
So
we
looked
at
how
would
a
developer.
AF
We
looked
at
a
lot
of
location
factors
so,
for
instance,
are
these
sites
within
a
mile
walk
of
education
and
retail
services,
banks,
healthcare,
food
services,
important
components
like
that
parks
and
open
space,
walkability
floodplain,
a
lot
of
different
aspects
and
what
we
really
came
to
decide
was
and
Stephanie
hit
on
it.
That
Biltmore
in
South
Charlotte
Street
are
much
more
ready
for
development
in
a
traditional,
affordable
housing.
AF
Sense
Riverside
has
some
great
opportunity,
but
isn't
a
way
to
maximize
affordability
in
the
traditional
way
and
I
think
this
art
space
presentation
you
all
heard
earlier
tonight
is
really
exciting,
because
it's
sort
of
a
non-traditional
way
different
way
to
think
about
it
and
a
way
that
sort
of
a
different
kind
of
private
sector
approach
to
to
getting
affordability.
These
scenarios,
a
couple
quick
caveats
again
I
want
to
emphasize
that
we
built
these
scenarios.
The
physical
and
the
economics
we're
not
trying
to
say
this
is
what
has
to
happen
or
what
will
happen.
AF
These
are
just
models
of
what
could
happen.
We
tried
to
be
extremely
realistic,
economically
conservative,
we
looked
very
closely
at
the
limitations,
we're
looking
at
realistic
construction
typology,
so
we're
not
pie-in-the-sky
we're
being
mindful
of
market
realities
so
that
these
analyses
and
models
are
built
in
some
reality
isn't
to
say
there
couldn't
be
improvements
on
this.
You
might
get
some
developers
that
can
do
better.
Other
things.
M
AF
AF
Much
bigger
site
we
think
we
could
get
about
550
or
so
units
on
there
about
32,000
square
feet
of
retail
in
a
bunch
of
different
places.
It's
big
enough
that
you
would
probably
phase
us
if
you're
a
developer
know
developers
likely
to
come
in
and
build
515.
It's
all
in
one
phase,
it's
probably
going
to
be
in
in
multiple
phases
and
I.
Think
that's
what
Stephanie
had
on
the
real
big
opportunity
here
is:
how
do
we
reach
this
back
together
with
East
End
Charlotte
streets,
a
big
river
right
now
that
separates
and
divides?
AF
And
if
this
project
is
going
to
go
forward
to
be
successful
with
that
character,
South
Shore,
it's
going
to
really
have
to
be
thought
of
in
terms
of
how
do
you
make
it
more
pedestrian
and
friendly
and
have
stoops
and
storefronts
and
make
it
a
once
again
a
community
street
instead
of
a
highway
and
again
this
is
sort
of
what
that
could
look
like
the
economic
pro
formas.
This
is
not
my
specialty
I'm
going
to
hit
it.
AF
I
do
have
Gary
in
the
audience
who
can
come
up
and
answer
questions
as
we
need,
but
I'm
just
gonna
hit.
Some
of
those
super
quick
highlights
and
then
we'll
be
done
again.
Model
of
what
we
think
could
be
not
we're
not
trying
to
create
a
prescription
of
this
is
exactly
how
much
affordable
housing.
We
need
to
have
we're
not
creating
policy
here.
The
models,
the
economic
models
were
for
Biltmore
Avenue
and
really
the
phase
one
of
South
Charlotte
Street
as
a
first
start
again
trying
to
be
very
realistic.
AF
We
used
local
cost
construction,
cost
factors
and
rent
factors
so
that
we
were
being
specific
to
Asheville
in
these
sites,
not
mythical.
We
looked
at
a
lot
of
different
income
and
affordability
levels,
so
this
gets
very
complex,
very
quick,
because
I
think
some
of
you
saw
who
were
peeking
in
on
this
there's
things
about
the
quantity
of
affordable
housing
that
we're
getting.
AF
But
then
there's
also
will
like
what
income
levels
so
there's
a
lot
of
trade-offs
and
I
want
to
emphasize
that
this
really
incredible
a
spreadsheet
tool
that
Gary,
built
and
I
know
some
of
you
have
seen
behind
the
scenes.
Rod
is
really
gonna,
be
a
great
tool
for
you
all
going
forward.
You
own
that
when
we're
done,
and
hopefully
Gary
can
train
your
staff
on
on
how
to
start
pushing
and
pulling
because
there's
a
lot
of
different
levels
levers
you
can
push
and
pull
to
really
analyze
this.
AF
So
again,
a
lot
of
numbers
here,
I'm
not
gonna,
go
through
all
these
I
thought.
I'd
just
pick
one
scenario
as
an
example,
so
you
can
see
the
kinds
of
things
we
looked
at
again.
We're
not
recommending
this
as
a
policy
we're
just
looking
at
scenarios
to
get
a
sense
of
what
you
can
do.
So
one
of
the
early
scenarios
we
looked
at
was
60%
of
the
units
being
affordable.
AF
So
that
scenario,
a
so
20%
being
in
that
around
60%
ami
range
and
another
40%
at
the
80%
range
and
then
40%
market,
and
when
you
do
that
you
can
get
about
183
of
the
310
units
61
of
those
get
to
be
down
in
that
60%
range
and
the
really
thing
I
want
you
to
zero
in
on.
Is
this
per
affordable
unit
gap?
So
what
we're
really
doing
in
these
models
is
we're
calculating?
AF
AF
AF
X
AF
No
land
cost
built
into
the
model
so
but
there's
a
land
recovery
built
in.
So
where
that's
assumed
as
economics
that
you
could
in
assuming
you
could,
when
you
put
this
out
for
a
private
redevelopment,
a
private
developer
would
pay
you
for
that
land.
However,
of
course
there
you
have
that
added
burden,
so
you're
getting
revenue
out
of
it,
but
you
have
facility.
C
AF
B
AF
Be
most
likely,
it
may
be
a
wash
that's
a
great
it
may
be,
or
so
that's
a
great
villain
and
we
just
don't
know
the
cost.
You
heard
Stephanie
mentioned
that.
That's
that
idea
of
studying
that
and
more
in
more
detail
to
be
known.
So
that's
that's
just
one
of
those
scenarios
that
gets
you
at
about
a
$60,000
per
unit
if
you
bump
it
up
to
75
percent
the
unit's
being
affordable.
That's
our
scenario
see
you.
You
get
up
to
seventy
thousand
per
unit
in
Lauren,
actually
80
over
80.
AF
S
B
AF
AF
Mentioned
trying
to
figure
that
out,
so
those
are
again
some
super
high
level
pieces.
Just
quick
highlights,
again
of
just
where
we
are
and
who
we've
talked
to.
We
have
had
a
lot
of
interaction
with
a
lot
of
different
stakeholders
along
the
way.
These
are
just
some
of
the
recent
ones.
We've
made
two
different
presentations
in
some
depth,
in
particular,
to
house
your
Housing
and
Community
Development
Committee.
With
a
lot
of
questions,
we
had
a
public
open
house.
A
month
ago
we
had
about
80
90
people,
something
like
that.
That
was
pretty
interesting.
M
AF
Last
week
of
looking
at
the
in
the
details
of
the
model,
I
won't
put
anyone
on
the
spot
to
try
to
exploit
it
and,
of
course,
your
affordable
housing.
Advisory
Committee
we've
met
with
a
few
times
and
your
staff
has
been
updated
along
the
way
and
again
these
are
just
repeats
of
the
major
findings.
So
with
that
I
will
ask
Stephanie
to
come
up
and
here
to
answer
questions.
Thank.
B
AF
AF
K
Thank
you
just
those
last
two
slides
here,
just
to
reiterate
what
our
next
steps
are
and
I
can
answer
any
questions
about
these.
We
also
have
folks
here
that
would
be
managing
the
facilities
assessment.
Our
real
estate
managers
here,
affordable
housing
special
is
this
year
our
urban
planner,
who
is
helping
us
with
community
engagement
and
communication
plan
this
year,
so
ready.
B
K
Do
not
need
you
to
take
any
formal
action.
It
is
a
preview
for
us
coming
back
in
January
and
we
need
you
to
understand
that
we're
continuing
to
work.
So
we
are
continuing
to
work
on
an
RFQ
for
the
facilities
assessment
and
we're
continuing
to
work
on
an
RFQ
for
the
Biltmore
Avenue
site,
and
then
we're
also
talking
with
potential
development
partners
for
ninety-one
Riverside
Drive
and
that
interim
okay.
B
M
B
L
AG
Vice
mayor
and
members
of
City
Council,
the
item
might
come
before
you
tonight
with
is
the
is
the
request
to
approve
the
terms
of
the
loan
and
repayment
plan
to
the
Eagle
Market
Street
Development
Corporation,
a
little
bit
of
background
on
this
project.
In
2013,
the
city
City
Council
approved
a
section
108
loan
to
the
Eagle
Market
Street
Development
Corporation
for
the
purpose
of
providing
commercial
and
retail
space
on
what
is
known
as
the
block.
The
total
amount
of
the
loan
was
seven
hundred
and
eighteen
thousand
dollars.
AG
M
AG
Reason
we're
coming
forward
to
you
tonight
is
that
Eagle
Market
Street
Development
Corporation,
which
has
recently
combined
to
become
that
Eagle
Market
police
place
commercial
LLC,
is
requesting
the
final
disbursement
of
those
funds.
The
initial
request
from
the
group
was
for
that
to
be
awarded
in
terms
of
a
grant
modified
from
alone.
AG
That
would
be
job
creation,
which
was
one
of
the
fundamental
reasons
for
the
loan
and
21
jobs
within
five
years.
That
equates
to
about
one
job
per
$35,000
loaned
a
lower
than
market
rate
rent,
which
would,
between
zero
and
five
years,
be
an
average
of
20
percent
below
market
rate
from
year.
Six
to
twenty,
the
average
would
be
15
percent
below
that
rate,
and
the
reason
for
getting
us
to
20
years
is
that's.
AG
AG
So
the
requested
action
before
you
tonight
is
authorizing
the
city
manager
to
disperse
the
remaining
funds
under
the
terms
and
repayment
plan
proposed
by
the
staff
that
you
have
at
your
seat
and
to
approve
a
budget
amendment
in
the
amount
of
four
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
I'm
available.
We
have
a
attorneys
here,
other
folks
available
to
answer
any
questions
you
might
have
and
I.
D
AG
G
So
I
don't
have
any
questions,
but
there's
a
on
attachment.
A
the
last
bullet
under
default.
There's
a
there's,
an
either
an
incomplete
sentence
or
just
there's
something
wrong.
There.
City
staff
will
review
the.
Should
the
project
fail
to
me
any
of
the
above
terms,
so
I,
don't
maybe
that
says
the
city
staff
will
review
compliance
annually.
That.
AG
G
R
Mayor
councilmembers,
I'm
Stephanie
swept
Singh
Twitty
CEO
for
Eagle
Market
Street
Development
Corporation.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
consideration
on
this
matter.
Yes,
we
are
very
amenable
to
the
terms
as
they
have
been
laid
out.
We
thank
you
for
the
audience
time
that
you
have
put
into
this
matter
and
into
this
project.
We
thank
you
again
for
your
consideration
on
this
I.
L
AE
Under
the
recommended
terms,
is
there
any
consideration
to
change
from
zero
to
five
years
to
twenty
five
and
six
to
twenty
to
15%
and
then
the
good-faith
effort
to
rent
at
historically
underutilized
businesses?
Is
there
any
reason
why
that
says,
underutilized
historically
underutilized
businesses,
as
opposed
to
african-american
or
minority.
D
AE
You
that
was
almost
a
rhetorical
question
in
some
sense
to
specify
for
those
folks
who
would
be
looking
at
this
and
wondering
also
the
other
question,
which
would
be
the
zero
to
five
years
averaged
for
a
twenty
percent
below
market
rate.
Is
there
any
consideration
to
change
that
to
25
percent
and
the
six
to
20
year
average
to
fifth
twenty
percent.
L
AE
I
think
it's
interesting
tonight
when
we,
when
we
talk
about
all
these
places,
we
talk
about
the
Biltmore
project
and
the
Charlotte
Street
project.
It's
one
of
those
things
where
everyone
we
know
happened.
You
have
like
some
of
those
some
of
those
folks
in
that
you
that
East
End,
Valley
Street
neighborhood
were
actually
homeowners
who
were
pushed
out
to
to
venture
into
subsidized
public
housing.
AE
The
first
in
the
city,
which
was
Lee
Walker
Heights,
which
were
now
redeveloping
and
we're
wanting
to
do
more
housing
projects
over
there
on
Biltmore
and,
of
course,
South
Charlotte
Street,
so
I'm
not
giving
a
history
lesson,
but
I
just
want
to
put
it
in
context.
The
spirit
and
intent
to
revive
this
area,
especially
for
minority
owned
business.
So.
AG
AG
Young
I
think
we
had
a
long
conversation
with
with
the
folks
from
Eagle
Market
Street
Development
Corporation,
as
well
as
MHO,
and
we
tried
to
get
the
the
rents
as
low
as
we
could.
We
understand
that,
since
the
2013
you
know
the
cost
of
the
infrastructure
was
significantly
higher,
so
there
were
some
implications
to
on
the
on
their
side
as
far
as
what
they
were
having
to
pay
to
get
that
space
up
fitted
and
get
it
ready
to
go.
We
tried
to
find
a
point
where
we
could.
AG
B
We
welcome
you
to
town
and
asked
you
to
work
on
this
and
deal
with
the
snowstorm,
but
I
wonder
if
there's
an
opportunity
for
the
city
to
partner
with
Eagle
Market
Street,
to
try
to
work
on
the
rent
issue,
I
mean
it
seems
like
it
may
it
may,
it
may
be
able
to
be
lower.
Who
knows
I
don't
know,
but
it
may
require
some
subsidy
to
make
that
happen,
and
you
know
is
that
is
that
is
that
potential
out
there
I.
AE
Think
I
think
I
mean
that
some
of
it
but
I
think
we
need
to
keep
in
context.
The
spirit
and
intent
is
more
than
just
about
the
rest.
It's
about
what
this
area
was,
because
it
is
no
more
and
what
it
represented,
and
when
you
look
at
like
Triangle
Park
over,
then
you
look
at
the
murals
on
the
wall.
That's
just
ghost
of
what
this
area
used
to
be
and
the
spirit
intent
of
this
project
itself
was
to
revitalize
the
area
and
to
not
hold
true
to
that.
R
AH
For
you
leave,
Stephanie
I
would
concur
with
what
Keefe
is
saying,
because
it
seems
like
the
spirit
and
intent
of
this
project
at
this
point
is
more
about
getting
it
done
than
getting
it
right
and
I
think
initially
it
was
about
getting
it
right
and
restoring
the
very
fabric
of
this
community
back.
So
my
question
to
you
is
with
the
market
rents
as
they
are
presented
here,
20%
below
market
rate
I
want
to
know
what
your
marketing
and
recruitment
plan
would
be.
What.
R
Under-Utilized,
meaning
certainly
African
American
businesses
of
us
just
call
it
like
it's
like
we
see
it,
and
so
I
have
done
everything
in
my
power
and
currently
75
to
to
90%
or
80%
of
all.
Those
businesses
that
will
come
in
to
the
project
are
African
American
businesses.
We
only
have
one
business
right
now
that
we
are
pursuing,
or
that
is
we're
negotiating
with
that
is
a
business
of
non-color
so
and
I
think
that
those
businesses
that
we
have
sought
out
are
more
than
capable
of
meeting
our
rates.
Again.
R
H
AG
Good
question:
the
money
was
part
of
section
108
in
January
of
2017
staff
came
before
you
and
requested
to
pay
off
that
loan,
because
we
were
continuing
to
pay
interest.
The
original
section
108
money
was
borrowed
in
2004
for
the
intent
of
redoing,
something
on
the
block,
because
there
there
was
an
initial
project
that
didn't
that.
Did
that
failed
to
move
through.
So
the
city
had
continued
to
pay
interest
on
that
section.
AG
108
loan
for
a
number
of
years
and
we
felt
like
it
was
in
the
city's
best
interest
and
in
fact
we
could
save
around
eighty
three
thousand
dollars
in
interest
payments.
If
we
went
ahead
and
paid
it
sooner
so
that
loan
was
paid
off
and
then
the
intent
was
to
use
funding
from
the
CIP
to
make
this
loan
once
they
once
they
were
ready
to
and
asked
for
the
money.
But.
AG
2.6
million
dollars
right
now,
and
you
know
we
would
just
add
that
you
know
in
any
time
we're
looking
at
a
project.
We
would
be
looking
to
create
a
affordable
mixed
use,
mixed
income
project,
so
we're
recommending
that
the
money
come
from
that
CFP
funds
which
is
available
right.
The
budget
amendment
is
to
transfer
it
into
this
project
right
so.
B
S
Wanted
to
thank
Sabrina
Peter
here
for,
for
helping
kind
of
you
know
kind
of
figure
out
exactly
what
might
have
happened.
You
know
you
know.
Obviously
the
city
did
commit
to
put
seven
or
eight
thousand
dollars
and
I
think
what
we
saw
in
our
role
as
oversight
years,
but
of
a
new
council
is,
you
know,
is
some
concerns
about
how
all
the
legal
you
know
how
this
was
how
this
was
was
essentially
structured
or
not
structured,
so
I,
thank
the
attorneys
here
for
a
kind
of
finding
of
this
I
mean
I.
S
Think
we
all
here
on
the
dais,
what
this
project
succeed,
I,
think
and
and
I
think
miss
Twitty
as
well.
I
think
I
think
the
points
you're
making
here
about
being
profitable
and
about
being
able
to
make
it
work
or
understandable
and
I
think
that
you
know
we
as
a
council
to
the
extent
there
are.
There
are
questions
going
forward
at
these
tent
there.
There
are,
you
know
you
will
see
what
the
market
will
bear.
You
know
when
the
time
moves
forward
with
it
so
I
mean
I
would
be
supportive
of
this.
S
I
think
this
was
a
probably
miss
Campbell,
as
well
kind
of
a
bit
of
an
eye-opener
here.
You
know
to
make
sure
that
that
you
know
the
complicated
projects
that
we
have
kind
of
going
forward,
or
you
know,
are
structured
in
a
way
that
there's
no
questions
going
forward
that
are
analyzed
and
that
we
make
sure
that
we're
you.
S
B
B
Satisfactory
Maggie
doesn't
like
it:
okay,.
A
So
so.
A
A
A
AI
D
AI
L
D
M
B
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
is
there.
Anyone
wishing
to
comment
on
this
motion,
no
okay,
all
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed.
I
would
just
add
at
the
end
of
this
I
appreciate,
I,
see
lots
of
folks
with
mountain
housing
and
Eagle
Market
Street
down
here.
M
B
Were
many
origins
of
the
what's
now
there
but
I
I
did
one
of
my
first
recollections
of
this
was
Terry
Bellamy.
When
she
was
mayor,
convened
a
meeting
and
I
was
there
and
she
asked
the
county
to
be
there.
I
know
David
Gant
was
there
and
she
invited
Mountain
housing
to
be
there
and
she
said
I
want
you
guys
to
do
this
project
and-
and
you
did
and
you
agreed
to
do
it
and
it
has
been
probably
your
hardest
project
ever
right.
Yes,
but
I
I
think
that.
B
B
So
I
don't
have
any
ownership
over
this,
but
I
am
thankful
that
you
all
did
it
and
I'm
sorry
that
it
was
so
challenging
and
that
there
were
so
many
bumps,
but
I
think
that
it's
important
for
the
city
to
continue
to
have
a
strong
relationship
with
Mountain
housing,
because
we're
going
to
do
more
and
we
do
need
you
as
a
community
partner
in
our
city.
So
thank
you
and
thank
you
for
coming
down
here
for
your
millionth
City
Council
meeting.
B
B
L
AI
It
I'm
Sarah
Skinner
I,
wanted
to
make
comments
about
the
South,
Charlotte
and
Biltmore
plans
that
were
presented
today.
I'm
sorry,
everybody
left
before
I
got
to
say
this,
but
I'm
interested
in
more
diverse
and
equitable
and
truly
affordable
housing
in
Asheville
I've
been
coming
to
City,
Council
and
affordable
housing
related
meetings
as
a
community
member
to
help
educate
myself
about
this
issue,
I'm
happy
to
see
an
uptick
in
what
seems
to
be
an
emphasis
on
affordable
housing
and
that's
very
exciting.
AI
To
me,
I'm
also
encouraged
by
the
creative
discussions
I
hear
at
a
hack
members
are
having
discussions
interfacing
with
community
members,
city
staff,
Realtors
bankers
who
all
seem
interested
in
making
more
affordable
housing
for
people
who
really
need
it.
One
concern
I
have
in
general
is
the
ad
ami
target
for
affordable
housing.
So
I
was
glad
to
hear
tonight
that
some
of
these
plans
include
60.
Ami
I
have
some
questions,
though.
AI
AI
What
do
studies
tell
us
about
the
size
of
living
situations
that
its
individual
and
families
in
Asheville
really
need
right
now,
I
do
appreciate
strides
being
made
and
would
ask
that
in
this
new
South,
Charlotte
and
Biltmore
and
the
plans
that
people
are
working
on
that
we
actually
go
lower
250
ami
if
possible,
and
include
voucher
housing
as
well.
That
would
truly
create
mixed
community
plans,
and
that
has
so
much
promise.
AI
So
I
was
glad
to
hear
councilman
young
talk
about
the
history,
because
I
think
that's
one
reason
I'm
here,
I'm
new
to
Asheville,
but
I
I
have
heard
the
history
and
I
think
we
need
diverse,
equitable,
affordable
housing
in
Asheville,
and
one
way
to
do
that
would
be
to
start
with
these
800
units
and
really
make
it
possible.
Thank
you.
G
B
Gonna
hear
more
about
these
projects
in
January.
We're
gonna,
hear
more
details
on
the
three
sites
that
we've
asked
staff
to
look
into
I
mean
I.
Think
the
people
should
start
to
have
a
conversation
about
the
subsidies
that
you
saw
in
those
performers.
Construction
is
incredibly
expensive
and
even
when
we
own
the
property,
the
subsidy
level
for
per
unit
for
per
affordable
unit,
we're
talking
tens
of
thousands
of
dollars,
and
you
know
our
benchmark
subsidy.
We
try
to
make
it
twenty
thousand
dollars,
but
clearly
we're
not
even
close
to
talking
about
that.
B
To
help
support
this
effort,
but
I
always
say
you
can't
buy
yourself
out
of
an
affordable
housing,
crisis
and
I
think
you
can
see
why
with
these
numbers,
but
it
is
an
important
way
for
the
city
to
be
able
to
preserve
land
located
in
the
heart
of
our
city
in
perpetuity
for
for
people
to
to
be
able
to
use
at
affordable
rates.
Otherwise
we
know
what
will
happen.
It
will
just
be
redeveloped
all
at
market
rate
and
it
will
gentrify
and
that'll
be
the
end
of
the
story.
AC
I
just
want
to
issue
my
support
for
Sarah
Skinner.
That's
the
reason
why
I
was
here
today:
I've
been
working
on
a
for,
but
housing
off
and
on
for
a
long
time
here
in
the
city
and
one
of
those
most
successful
forelegs
into
its
meant
east
view,
with
the
housing
authority,
where
you
have
folks
from
public
housing
along
a
condominium,
and
it
will
be
owned
in
perpetuity
by
them.
The
other
thing
is
that
there
are
subsidies
that
can
come
in
the
form
of
social
enterprise
for
retail
space.
AC
AC
I,
don't
know,
I,
don't
know
how
a
lot
of
people
feel,
but
it
looks
like
a
lot
of
people
who
look
like
me
are
being
pushed
out,
and
you
know
when
I
see
a
room
full
of
developers
and
they're
telling
you
about
Opportunity
Zones,
and
the
only
reason
why
an
area
is
designated
opportunities
on
it's
because
of
an
economic
demographic
that
looks
like
me.
So
I
would
urge
you
also
to
bring
folks
in
from
the
community.
AC
So
they
can
have
some
opportunity
because
it
gets
to
be
mighty,
discouraging
here,
especially
when
those
of
us
living
in
city
limits
like
I'd,
do
in
Killingworth
have
to
pay
over.
So
three
thousand
dollars
a
year
in
property
taxes
plus
the
car.
So
just
keep
us
in
mind
and
also
we
may
have
differences
of
opinion.
But
but
hopefully
we
can
be
civil
and
we
can
do
some
good
work
for
folks
in
our
community
and
thanks
Sarah.
X
My
name
is
Jonathan
Wainscott
I'd
like
to
welcome
Debra
Campbell
to
Asheville.
Let's
meet
her
a
couple
weeks
ago.
I
just
want
to
continue
to
clarify
the
narrative
of
the
racial
gerrymandering
with
the
district
elections
and
all
those
kind
of
stuff.
One
of
the
things
that
I've
found
that
has
been
diluted
in
the
conversation
is
the
success
of
Miss
Smith
and
Joel
burgesses
article
back
in
July.
He
had
mentioned
that
you
did
very
well
in
the
six
most
populated
african-american
precincts,
which
is
true.
X
But
in
that
district
you
came
in
third
place
like
you
did
in
at
least
third
in
every
district
in
Asheville,
you
came
in
357
votes
above
white
guy,
rich
Lee,
who
wanted
took
fourth
place,
and
so
you
crushed
it
everywhere.
So
this
narrative
that
you
know
you
barely
made
it
on
to
Council
by
a
highly
energized
african-american
vote.
X
You
that
congratulations,
you
took
more
votes
in
your
second
place,
finish
than
Keith
did
with
his
first
and
Brian
did
with
his
second,
and
you
beat
the
vice
mayor,
who
came
in
first
place
before
that
I
mean
you
just
really.
You
did
a
really
fantastic
job
and
it
wasn't
because
of
a
strong
african-american.
X
It
was
because
of
a
strong
Shaniqua
Smith
and
a
electorate
that
is
not
resistant
in
hostile
to
diversity
on
our
council
and
this
council,
with
northeast
Southwest.
All
represented
here
is
a
situation
that
we
need
to
preserve
and
I
would
just
implore
you
again
to
reconsider
your
position
on
the
electoral
structure.
Greenville
South
Carolina
has
district
elections.
I
know
that
South
Carolina
they've
only
got
60,000.
People
they've
got
two
African
American
women
sitting
on
their
Council,
so
Asheville
is
not
the
only
progressive
place
in
the
southeast.
Welcome
to
Asheville.
Thank
you.
I.
AE
Hear
mr.
Wainscott
I
would
say
that
you
did
do
well,
you
did
crush
it,
but
Shaniqua
I'm
not
sitting
here
as
an
anomaly
that
had
happen
in
25
years
and
when
it
did
happen,
it
wasn't
because
two
people
were
were
elected
successively
like
that.
So
let's
hope
that
it
should
we
have
districts
should
not
have
districts.
Let's
hope
that
the
anomaly
doesn't
happen
every
25
years
so
25
years
ago
you
and
I
wouldn't
be
here,
but
we're
here
today.
Hopefully
it
won't
be
25
years
later
before
there
are
other
african-americans
that
served
together
on
council.