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April 14, 2020
Asheville City Council Budget Briefing Work Session
A
Welcome
everyone
to
the
Asheville
City
Council
budget
work
session.
I
am
here
in
the
chamber,
along
with
three
council
members,
Vijay
Kapoor
and
Julie
Mayfield,
and
when
Whistler-
and
we
have
three
council
members
attending
my
phone
Bryan
Haynes,
Keith,
young
and
Shaniqua
Smith,
and
we
are
going
to
be.
Are
you
going
to
start
us
off?
Okay,
we'll
hear
from
our
manager,
Deborah
Campbell.
B
What
a
difference
a
month
makes
appreciate
you
all
being
here
under
these
very
uncertain
and
troubling
times,
to
continue
the
business
of
the
city
and
the
subject
matter
that
we're
going
to
cover
and
Tania
McDowell,
who
is
the
assistant,
finance
and
budget
director
will
be
doing
the
majority
of
the
presentation
and
the
heavy
lifting
and
he'll
be
responsible
for
answering
all
the
questions.
Yes
Tony,
but
essentially
we
want
to
talk
to
you
about
our
current
budget.
The
impact
that
the
culvert
19
pandemic
has.
B
The
covet
19
significantly
impacted
lots
of
things.
Obviously,
we've
had
some
operational
changes
in
terms
of
ferry,
transit,
free
on
street
parking
and
garage
parking
for
free
deference
and
releases
trying
to
help
a
partner's
contribution
to
the
Buncombe
1
Vulcan
fund
and
sheltering
at
Harrah's
sooner
so.
We've
had
obviously
significant
revenue
and
expenditure
impacts,
but
what
we
hope,
if
you
don't
remember
anything
from
this
presentation
and
as
I've
talked
to
you
in
your
check-ins,
this
is
going
to
be
a
presentation.
It's
going
to
be
really
heavy
with
a
lot
of
numbers.
B
B
B
C
B
D
Good
afternoon
Tony
McAllen
city's
finance
department,
as
Deborah
said,
this
is
a
very
numbers.
Heavy
presentation
I
see
some
smiles
already
about
that.
Please
feel
free
to
stop
me
as
we
as
we
go
through
and
ask
any
questions.
You
may
have
urban
structures
we're
going
to
see
a
little
bit
of
time
talking
about
the
current
year
and
how
we
see,
revenues
being
impacted
as
well
as
spending
and
what
we're
going
to
continue
to
spend
some
money
on
the
current
year.
D
E
D
Here
on
my
phone,
so
you
may
see
me
looking
down
here
and
flipping
as
well.
So
to
start
off
and
again,
we
spend
a
lot
of
time
here
in
the
first
few
slides
talking
about
revenues
and
the
impact
in
the
current
year.
So
we
want
to
start
by
reminding
everyone
about
the
the
mix
of
the
the
mix
and
the
nature
of
our
revenues
and
the
general
fund-
and
you
all
see
in
this
chart
many
times
about.
D
F
E
E
D
Yeah,
let
me
know
if
you
all
can
hear
or
if
they
can't
hear
on
the
phone
okay.
So
again,
this
is
our
revenue
mix
in
the
general
fund,
we're
gonna
kind
of
run
through
how
the
Cova
19
crisis
is
impacting
these
revenues
I'm
going
to
start
with
the
the
general
I
mean
with
the
with
property
taxes,
and,
as
you
all
know,
this
is
our
largest
revenue,
source
and
I.
Think
the
the
good
news
here
for
revenues
and
the
general
fund
is,
is
the
property
tax
in
its
name.
D
It's
because
of
the
way
the
system
is
set
up
here
in
North,
Carolina
bills
go
out
in
the
late
fall
and
most
of
the
revenues
are
collected
in
December
in
January,
so
we've
already
collected
about
a
little
over
ninety
nine
percent
of
our
property
tax
levy
in
the
current
year.
One
thing
we
have
heard
from
the
county
tax
office,
though,
is
that
because
of
the
crisis,
they
do
believe
there
there
may
be
a
reduction
in
their
overall
collection
rate
for
the
year.
D
Buncombe
County
has
a
very
high,
in
fact,
one
of
the
highest
collection
rates
in
North
Carolina
last
year.
They
collected
about
ninety
nine
point:
nine
five
percent
of
our
property
tax
levy.
They
think
this
year
because
of
the
crisis.
That's
gonna,
that
for
since
going
all
over
to
run
somewhere
between
ninety
nine
point,
five
and
nine.
That
may
not
sound
like
a
lot.
D
It's
not
in
terms
of
percentages,
but
when
you
talk
about
large
dollar
values,
we
think
that
may
have
as
much
as
a
four
hundred
thousand
dollar
impact
on
the
property
taxes
this
year
and
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
that's
been
in
fact
next
year
as
well,
once
we
get
there,
but
overall
you
even
with
that
reduction,
we
still
think
we're
going
to
come
in
on
budget
on
property
taxes
for
the
current
year.
Moving
on
to
sales
taxes,
our
second
largest
general
fund
revenue
source.
D
This
is
the
revenue
that
we're
most
concerned
about.
It's
the
one
we
think
is
going
to
be
most
impacted
by
the
current
crisis,
and
we
think
that
it's
going
to
come
in
substantially
under
budget
in
the
current
year
and
I'll
show
you
all
some
numbers
in
a
few
moments.
One
of
the
things
we're
dealing
with,
though
right
now
is
it's
very,
very
difficult
to
predict
exactly
where
this
revenue
source
is
headed.
D
What
we're
going
through
right
now
is
unprecedented
and
Sneyd,
so
it's
challenging
to
come
up
with
estimates
during
the
the
depth
of
the
Great
Recession
about
ten
years
ago.
The
worst
quarterly
performance
we
had
for
sales
taxes
was
a
ten
percent
decline
by
comparison,
the
leading
municipalities
is
estimating
right
now
that,
for
the
last
quarter
of
this
fiscal
year,
we
may
see
a
20
percent
decline.
Some
other
folks.
C
D
The
state
are
estimating
an
even
higher
decline.
The
Buncombe
County
Budget
Office,
when
they
did
their
presentation
to
their
board
last
week,
indicated
that
they're,
assuming
about
thirty
five
percent
decline
for
April
through
June
and
but
part
of
the
problem
with
our
part
there.
One
of
the
challenges
of
making
these
estimates.
We
don't
really
have
any
real-time
information
to
evaluate
where
we're
at
there's
three
month
lag
between
when
sales
takes
place.
Sale
takes
place
when
we
receive
the
revenue
back
from
the
state
of
North
Carolina.
D
So
we
won't
see
the
first
of
the
data
that
may
give
us
any
indication
of
where
we're
at
until
June
and
that
will
be
for
March
and,
as
you
won't
know,
March
was.
We
were
half
opens
for
March
and
have
sat
down
for
lunch,
and
so
it's
really
going
to
be
July
when
we
see
those
April
sales
tax
numbers
before
we
have
a
good
grasp
of
how
big
the
decline
is
really
going
to
be
so
just
to
give
you
all
some
perspective
in
terms
of
numbers
for
sales
taxes.
D
D
D
A
E
D
Should
pass
time
and
collection
so,
okay,
so
outside
of
the
the
sales
taxes
we
do
expect
there
to
be
some
other
revenue
impacts
in
the
general
fund
state
utility
taxes.
It
is,
it
will
be
impacted
from
the
reduced
commercial
activity
on
the
electricity
consumption
side,
so
we
likely
will
see
that
revenue
to
climb.
We
know
our
investment
earnings
revenue
is
going
to
go
down
with
this
interest
rates
have
been
reduced,
we're
also
seeing
a
slowdown
in
development
services.
D
There's
also
concern
about
potentially
a
delay
and
some
revenues
we're
going
to
get
the
state
is
considering
suspending
motor
vehicle
registrations
and
also
deferring
sales
tax
payments
for
businesses
as
I
understand
it.
From
some
information
we
got
from
the
league
last
week.
Those
can't
be
officially
put
in
place,
and
so
the
legislature
comes
back
in
session.
It
makes
those
makes
those
official
but
those
are
possible,
and
so
what
that
would
mean
that
would
just
be
a
cash
flow
issue.
For
us.
D
The
revenue
that
we
might
get
in
this
fiscal
year
would
not
come
in
til
next
year,
which
would
have
an
impact
on
our
end
of
the
year
fund
balance.
If
that
happens,
and
then
obviously
there's
a
big
unknown
about
how
much
the
federal
and
state
assistance
we're
going
to
receive,
there's
been
some
information
received
and
released
about
the
care
act,
and
we
know
there's
going
to
be
money
coming
in
for
transit
related
to
that.
But
we
don't
know
the
full
scope
of
it.
D
Yeah
the
League
of
Municipalities
last
week,
I
know
sent
letters
to
the
state
and
also
to
our
federal
representatives
about
identifying
the
need
for
replacement
of
lost
revenue
for
local
governments.
We
don't
know
yet
if
there
will
be
anything
received
at
the
moment
at
least
there's
not
any
any
assistance
that
will
replace
those
lost
or
declining
revenues
for
this
fiscal
year.
D
G
F
D
A
great
question
I
think
so
you
know
a
lot
of
our.
Obviously
our
economy
here
is
very
turrets,
based
and
and
retail
based
with
restaurants
and
such
and
so
with
with
the
current
crisis.
I
think
the
assumption
from
the
county
budget
staff
is
that
we're
gonna
see
a
larger
get
to
our
economy
here
locally
than
perhaps
the
rest
of
the
state
may
see
so.
D
A
E
D
D
D
We
are,
however,
as
I
mentioned.
Looking
at
ways
we
can
reduce
expenses
in
the
short
term
and
I
think
these
are
kind
of
the
standard
type
strategy.
So
you
see
a
lot
of
budget
offices
a
lot
of
cities
implement
in
the
short
term
kind
of
belt-tightening
measures,
one
of
which
is
to
implement
a
hiring
freeze
for
all
existing
vacancies,
with
exceptions
for
public
safety
positions
and
other
positions
that
are
approved
by
the
city
manager
and
then
we're
also
going
to
look
at
delay
or
delaying
or
foregoing
other
operating
expenses,
as
we
can.
I
I
I
D
We
don't
have
the
exact
numbers,
I
suspect,
just
like
you
said
that
that
is
going
on,
that,
there's
being
some
delay
in
the
healthcare
healthcare
expansion
expenses
like
I,
said:
I,
don't
have
any
exact
numbers
on
on
that
right
now,
I
know.
Up
until
now,
our
cost
had
been
up
this
year,
some
white.
As
you
know,
we
were
planning
to
increase
the
contribution
to
healthcare
fund
next
year.
D
We
thought
revenues
were
going
to
slightly
exceed
expenses
and
we
may
increase
fund
balance
by
somewhere
in
the
neighborhood
of
$300,000
bottom
road
there,
because
there's
a
lot
of
uncertainty
right
now
and
it's
really
difficult
to
pin
down
what
the
outcomes
are
going
to
be
this
year.
We
want
to
give
you
all
some
ranges
of
where
we
think
things
may
end
up
on
the
revenue
side.
We're
thinking,
we
think
a
decline
of
two
and
a
half
to
four
million
dollars
is
possible.
We
think
we
may
be
able
to
reduce
expenses.
D
Some
we're
just
not
sure
how
much
so,
we've
kind
of
given
a
range
there
of
zero
up
to
a
million
dollars.
So
it's
kind
of
get
to
the
to
the
bottom
line.
And
that's
again,
that's
that
bottom
row.
We
do
think
of
the
general
fund
and
we
have
a
slide
a
little
bit
later
on
to
show
you
the
exact
percentages.
But
we
do
think
the
general
fund
fund
balance
will
decline
because
expenses
are
going
to
be
exceeding
revenues
by
somewhere
in
the
neighborhood
of
two
point,
eight
to
five
and
a
half
million
dollars.
D
All
right
so
I'll
come
back
and
we'll
wrap
up
on
general
fund
a
little
bit
later,
but
we
did
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
enterprise
funds
as
well,
and
how
this
crisis
is
affecting
a
performance
in
those
and
the
Civic
Center
fund.
As
you
all
know,
the
Paris
Casino
Harrah's
Cherokee
Six
Tanner,
is
closed
at
the
moment,
which
means
no
additional
revenues
coming
in,
so
they
will
come
in
under
budget
on
the
revenue
side,
we're
assuming
if
they
stay
closed
through
June
30th.
D
That
would
be
about
five
hundred
and
seventy
five
thousand
dollars.
The
good
news
is
with
the
Civic
Center.
Is
that
there's
a
lot
of
control?
They
have
over
their
expenses
because
of
shows,
and
so,
if
they're
not
having
a
business,
then
they're
not
staffing
for
it.
They're
not
buying
supplies,
they're,
not
contracting
with
vendors,
and
so
there's
also
going
to
be
an
offsetting
reduction
to
expenses
that
will
almost
completely
offset
the
revenue
loss.
D
D
Center,
that's
crap.
Corina
parking
services
fund
slightly
different
story
there,
as
a
c-major
indicated.
I
knew
all
no
we're
currently
providing
three
on
street
parking
and
garage
parking
at
three
as
well.
If
we
continue
that
through
June
30th,
that
will
be
a
revenue
loss
of
about
1.5
million
dollars,
unlike
the
Civic
Center
fund,
most
of
the
staff
and
most
of
the
expenses
in
parking
or
there's,
there's
not
a
lot
of
flexibility
to
reduce
those
expenses.
You
know
that
there's
not
as
much
temporary
staff.
D
Most
of
the
folks
in
that
area
are
full
time
employees,
and
so
we
don't
think
expenses
as
much
as
much
opportunity
to
reduce
expenses.
We
are
looking
at
that,
though
I
hope
to
come
back
with
some
some
some
lower
estimates
for
expenses
as
the
year
goes
on,
but
right
now
we
think
kind
of
a
worst-case
scenario.
We
could
see
a
fund
balance
decline
of
about
one
and
a
half
million
dollars
in
the
parking
services
fund.
To
kind
of
give
you
all
some
perspective,
they
have
about
2.2
million
available
on
their
fund
balance.
D
The
transit
services
fund
against
you
all
know
we're
offering
fair
free
service
right
now
and
if
we
continue
that
through
June
30th,
that
would
be
a
revenue
impact
of
about
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
just
kind
of
regular
ongoing
operating
expenses.
When
we
think
it
we
have
told
you
all
in
March
and
also
in
January,
would
be
we're
thinking.
The
transit
fund
would
be
over
budget
in
the
current
year.
We
still
think
it
will
be.
D
There
will
be
federal
money
to
help
offset
that
I
mean
so
we
we
think
there
still
will
be
a
shortfall
in
the
fund
and
will
likely
be
coming
back
to
you
all
for
a
budget
amendment
probably
the
end
of
May,
but
but
we
hope
that,
with
the
Cova
19
care
assistant,
assistance
money
that
we
can
cover
the
shortfall
transit
from
without
having
to
dip
into
general
fund
fund
balance.
To
do
that.
So.
I
Tony
there
in
the
cares
Act
right
there
is
specific
language
for
transit
funding.
There
is
secret.
Do
you
have
a
sense
of
how
that
is
going
to
be
doled
out?
Is
this
gonna
be
something
that
that
we're
looking
at
North
Carolina?
Is
it's
going
to
get
flow
to
the
states
and
then
for
to
us,
is
going
to
flow
straight
to
the
feds?
You
all
have
any
sense
of
what
that
looks
like
we.
H
H
Language
is
very
general,
it
says
you
know
it
can
be
for
operating.
It
can
be,
you
know,
anything
really
to
kind
of
respond
to
the
Kovan
crisis,
so
this
is
an
absolute
legitimate
and
appropriate
use
for
it.
I
think
it
doesn't,
but
I
think
it's
generally.
We
can
do
kind
of
what
we
want
with
it.
Yeah.
D
H
Tony,
let
me
just
sit
on
this
for
a
second
ask
a
question,
so
we
we
were
projecting
in
March
about
I,
think
it
was
about
a
half
million
dollar
shortfall
because
of
paratransit
and
and
so
this.
What
this
slide
tells
me
is
that
the
system
overall
is
probably
spending
less.
It's
costing
us
less
because
of
kovat,
because
we're
losing
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
because
affairs,
but
the
but
the
estimated
shortfall
is
now
three
hundred
five
hundred,
as
opposed
to
say,
500
to
700.
Yes,.
H
D
D
G
G
F
H
Yes,
okay,
yes,
oh
and
so
under
our
contract
with
the
management
company
who
who
incurs,
who
incurs
the
additional
costs
and
who
benefits
from
the
savings.
So
are
we
paying
that
does
the
cost
for
those
shields
and
all
the
other
code
response
does
that
pass
through
to
us
and
then
also
the
the
fuel
savings?
We
get
the
benefit
of
that
correct.
D
I
D
I
C
I
E
I
Wanting
to
make
wanted
to
make
sure
that
the
folks
who
were
driving
these
buses
are
in
you
know,
are
protected
right
and
that's
a
that's.
A
big
concern
of
folks
and
I
think
there's
also
been
a
question.
I
mean
the
mayor
is
said
this
other
other
cities
across
the
state
are
some
of
them.
We've
been
considering
stopping
their
transit
system
or
just
you
know,
radically
scaling
it
back,
and
this.
J
B
We
will
be
going
to
our
phones
a
lot,
because
we've
got
staff
watching
and
they're
trying
to
help
us
respond
to
some
of
these
questions.
Obviously,
normally
they
would
be
here
under
different
circumstances,
but
in
terms
of
safety,
safety
has
always
been
a
concern
of
ours
for
our
employees.
When
we
first
got
word
that
it's
so
Jessica's
texting
here,
right
now
and
I
may
have
some
information
for
you.
So
I
hope
that
you
all
will
allow
us
to
be
somewhat
informal
for
this
session.
B
Safety
is
always
a
critical
and
key
to
us.
When
we
first
heard
about
the
severity
of
this
pandemic,
we
have
bought
mass
shields
gloves
we
have
cordon
off
the
buses
such
that
seats
are
separated
within
the
six
feet
and
probably
additional
distance,
so
we're
doing
our
best.
We
are
also
asking
people
who
are
waiting
for
buses
to
enforce
the
six
foot
distance
and
having
our
transit
workers
wear
masks
and
even
having
the
police
help
us
ensure
that
that
distances
is
being
being
followed
and.
H
So
one
of
the
things
that
we've
done
just
to
put
a
finer
point
on
that
is
we're
limiting
it
to
we're,
limiting
each
of
us
to
ten
passengers
and
and
and
we've,
and
to
accommodate
for
on
the
larger
and
the
more
heavily
used
routes.
We've
now
doubled
up
on
the
buses.
So
there
are
two
buses
that
come
to
help
accommodate
the
the
people
who
would
ordinarily
be
riding
that
bus.
Even
with
that
we
know,
I
have
heard
people
are
being
left
behind
at
bus
stops
and
so
I
think,
as
we
think
to
to
next
year.
H
B
I
No
and
it's
at
the
point
I'm
trying
to
make
is
I'm
not
saying
we
should
be
leaving
those
folks
I'm
trying
to
think
given
that
we've
given
this
is
a
crazy
time
right
now,
right
and
and
we're
trying
to
figure
out
we'll
help.
You
know,
there's
there's
still
a
certain
certain
certain
group
of
folks
who
are
using
the
buses,
yeah
and
they're,
going
to
a
certain
place.
Yeah
I'm
wondering
whether
there
are
the
extent
we
do
any
alternatives
right.
I
So
if
those
folks
are
going
grocery
shopping
and
that's
the
reason
why
they're
taking
transit,
is
there
an
opportunity
right
to
be
able
to
get
delivery
service
to
them?
If
these
are
folks
going
to
a
certain
place
right,
whether
it's
the
hospital
or
someplace
else,
it's
open?
Is
there
an
opportunity
to
to
basically
help
you
know,
think
creatively
and
be
able
to
do
that
instead
of
running
buses,
that
are
only,
they
only
have
ten
people
that
maybe
jeopardize
that
maybe
putting
people
you
know
in
I
would
say
harm's
way.
B
And
we
certainly
know
that
there
needs
to
be
additional
analysis
based
on,
unfortunately,
the
times
that
we
are
in
right
now,
but
I
didn't
want
to
provide
to
you
the
information
I've
gotten
from
Jessica.
Yes,
we
have
scaled
back.
There
are
three
routes:
routes,
170,
the
s6
and
one
w/e
bus
and,
as
Julie
said,
we're
living
in
the
210
people,
extra
cleaning,
resources
from
city
staff
to
support
and
we've
had.
H
H
B
You
know
what
they
say:
you
never
waste
across
this
and
then
right.
Essentially,
this
is
a
lot
of
lessons
learned
yeah
for
us.
Yeah
I
certainly
hate
that
we
are
in
this
predicament,
but
it
is
what
it
is
and
we're
learning
and
we
are
adjusting
and
but
quality
is
still
very
important
to
us.
So
it's
not
that
we're
not
thinking
about
quantity
of
service
at
all,
but
we
really
are
thinking
about.
How
can
we
provide
the
best
service
with
the
limited
resources
that
we
have
to
the
people
who
are
who
are
choice.
D
It's
sort
of
finish
upon
the
enterprise
funds,
as
you
all
know,
with
the
water
fund,
there
is
a
no
cut
policy
in
place
and
we're
also
seeing
the
beginnings
of
some
decreased
usage
with
businesses
being
closed
and
such
so
there
will
be
a
revenue
impact
on
the
water
fund.
We
don't
think
it's
going
to
be
substantial
over
the
last
three
months
of
this
fiscal
year
to
the
point
where
we're
gonna
have
to
look
at
reducing
services
or
making
any
major
changes
in
the
water
fund.
D
I
think
if
it
were
to
continue
past
that,
then
we
may
have
to
revisit
that
and
then
obviously
the
last
two
enterprise
funds
which
we
haven't
mentioned:
storm
water
and
street
cut.
There's
really
no
major
impact.
Their
street
cut
fund
is
on
a
cost
to
reimbursement
basis.
So
as
folks
who
would
be
cutting
the
streets,
if
they're
not
getting
the
streets,
then
you
know
we're
not
sending
crews
out
and
so
so
that
one
that
is
a
break-even
fund,
so
just
to
come
back
and
kind
of
summarize
this.
D
This
first
part
of
the
presentation
we
mentioned
in
the
general
fund
that
we
do
think
there's
going
to
be
a
decline
in
fund
balance
right
now,
we're
estimating
somewhere
between
2.8
and
five
and
a
half
million
dollars,
and
so
what
that
translates
into
in
terms
of
the
percentage.
As
you
all
know,
we
have
a
policy
that
we
maintain
15%
of
our
expenses.
D
Under
that
best-case
scenario,
we
showed
you
all
will
come
in
at
just
under
16,
but
if
we
do
go
to
the
worst-case
scenario,
it
is
possible
that
we
might
come
in
slightly
under
our
policy
goal
at
the
end
of
this
fiscal
year.
So,
just
to
summarize
again
in
the
general
fund
current
year,
potential
fund
balance
decline
in
the
enterprise
funds.
Really,
the
only
one
only
enterprise
fund,
we're
concerned
about
right
now-
is
the
parking
fund
and
the
other
funds,
the
other
end
price.
D
Other
enterprise
funds,
we
believe,
are
going
to
be
okay
through
the
rest
of
this
fiscal
year.
So
that
concludes
the
first
half
of
the
presentation
on
the
current
year.
If
you
all
have
any
questions,
we
can
certainly
go
back
and
talk
about
any
of
this
before
we
move
on
to
next.
Your
budget
planning.
F
You
know
that
we
could
have
them
do
now.
I
mean
I
realized
that
they're
not
going
to
be
able
to
travel,
etc.
But
you
know
to
the
extent
that
we're
paying
folks
anyway-
and
you
know,
they're
not
able
to
do
they're
slated
job
it
just
may
be.
Something
to
consider
just
to
you
know
make
people
feel
like.
E
I
C
I
This
and
you
know
for
some
of
the
other
council
members-
and
this
is
this
piggybacks
off
your
point
when
yeah
I
think
part
of
our
goal.
Right
now
too,
is
to
is
to
utilize
as
many
federal
relief
resources
as
we
possibly
can
right.
There's
the
cares
Act
and
there
you
know
hopefully
it'll
be
there'll,
be
more
more
relief,
so
to
speak.
E
E
I
I
I
D
I
D
You
know,
and
we
have
those
email
exchanges
last
week
and
I
know:
I've
been
working
in
North
Carolina
for
twenty
years
and
I
don't
have
a
whole
lot
of
experience
with
furloughs
I
think
it's
interesting.
We
did
talk
to
some
other
cities
in
the
last
few
weeks
here
in
North
Carolina
at
the
moment,
nobody's
here
in
North,
Carolina,
Lisa's
thinking
about
furloughs
I.
Think
part
of
it
is,
you
know
in
other
states,
I
think
local
government
revenues
are
more
sensitive
to
economic
ups
and
downs.
I
think
you
know
one
of
the
things.
D
So
if
you
have
local
governments
that
are
really
heavily
reliant
on
sales
taxes
or
they
have
a
different
type
of
property
tax
system,
that's
more
impacted
by
you
know
short
terms
up
and
downs.
I.
Think
the
financial
impact
can
be
greater
in
other
places,
other
than
North
Carolina.
So
I
was
trying
to
recall
I,
don't
think.
Even
during
the
recession,
there
were
any
places
that
I
knew
about
here
in
North
Carolina
that
furloughed
employees
so
but
B,
obviously
we're
dealing
with
unprecedented
times,
and
so
it
just
goes
on.
I
I
E
C
I
Right
now,
we're
really
deeming
things
essential
right.
Are
there
things
now
and
I
know
you
wanted
to
talk
about
a
continuation
budget,
but
are
there
things
now
that
that
we
don't
need
to
be
doing
next
year
or
that
we
could
take
a
pause
from
there?
Then
I
could
make
people
happy,
but
just
kind
of
rolling
it
over
or
it's
not
gonna.
We're
not
able
to
do
regular
tax,
increasing
and
imagine
us
to
be
a
tax
increase,
and
you.
I
I
Is
whether
there's
any
ability
to
cooperate
with
the
county
on
some
of
these
services
that
we
have
as
well
just
try
and
think
creatively
here
in
the
short
term?
You
know:
are
there
ways
of
reducing
costs
that
we
can,
then
we
can
and
I
know.
We've
got
something
on
our
agenda,
you
know
and
for
our
council
meeting
on
this,
but
you.
C
F
I
think
I
mean
Debra
and
I
chatted
about
this,
and
you
said
it
I
mean
we
need
to
learn
from
this
crisis.
I
think
it's
really
fabulous
that
the
county
and
the
city
are
working
so
closely
together,
but
and
I.
Think
we've
worked
hard
to
try
to
eliminate
any
overlap,
but
there
still
are
some
I.
Think,
and
you
know
there
are
some.
F
Maybe
it's
not
overlap,
but
there
could
be
some
real
organizational
improvements
on
countywide
and
citywide
that
you
know,
I
I
really
would
would
urge
the
staff
to
consider
really
thinking
outside
the
box
and
thinking
about
you
know
what
what's
the
county
doing,
that
that
we
could
be
doing
or
vice
versa,
or
how
could
we
merge
it?
A
little
bit
better
I
mean
there's
a
couple
ideas
that
I've
already
talked
to
Deborah
about
that
we
will
not
air
publicly,
but
but
but
again,
this
hope
and
even
to
bj's
point
I
mean
I.
F
Just
you
know,
to
the
extent
that
we
have
things
that
need
to
be
done,
that
we've
been
putting
off.
You
know
that
maybe
it
isn't
in
people's
job
titles,
but
if,
if
they're,
if
they're
not
being
fully
utilized,
can
we
get
them?
I
mean
I.
Just
heard
I
had
a
discussion
with
somebody
at
mission.
They
are
paying
nurses,
seventy-five
percent
of
their
salary,
to
clean
the
hospital,
so
I
mean
it
may
not
be
the
the
job
that
people
signed
up
for.
B
B
And
and
I
really
want
to
assure
you
all
that
we
are
doing
exactly
that,
we
have
I
think
we
meet
twice
virtually
with
all
the
department
heads
talking
about
redeployment
and
how
we
are
using
our
resources.
Are
there
things
that
we
could
be
doing
more
innovatively?
Are
so
there's
some
things
in
a
department
that
and
I
wish?
We
ain't
had
time
to
do
that.
Those
are
the
things
that
we
are
really
really
putting
our
resources
toward,
particularly
during
this
time
swin
when
people
are
at
home
and
they
can
actually
well.
B
It
is
the
very
last
thing
that
I
think
this
organization
needs
and
I
say
that
sincerely,
because
we
are
so
under-resourced
right
now
and
I
would
hate
to
lose
really
really,
which
I
think
we
have
really
really
good
employees
I
think
we
are
going
to
recover.
It
is
going
to
be
slow,
but
I
do
believe
that
we
can
keep
our
employees
engaged
and
I
think
we
can
keep
them
working
and
fulfilled
and
and
I
think
lawyer
to
the
city
of
Asheville,
particularly
in
a
time
of
crisis.
F
G
F
E
D
D
D
D
Into
talking
about
next
budget
year-
and
so
just
summary
kind
of
this
of
this
next
section
that
we're
going
to
through
what
you're
gonna
hear
us
talk
about
here
and
in
just
a
moment,
as
does
delaying
and
I
think
you
already
talked
to
a
city
major,
probably
about
that
in
your
check-ins-
delaying
decisions
around
that
the
budget,
as
long
as
we
possibly
can
and
stay
still
meet
state
statutes.
In
terms
of
when
we
have
to
adopt
a
budget,
we're
going
to
show
you
the
general
fund
revenue
projections
and
again
a
lot
of
them.
D
Certainly
at
this
point,
but
we
have
reduced
those
fairly
substantially
compared
to
what
we
were
showing
you
about
a
month
ago
and
we'll
be
recommending
most
likely
in
the
in
the
city.
Manager's
proposed
budget
that
comes
to
you
all
in
May
that
we
delay
implementing
any
new
services
or
program
enhancements.
For
the
time
being,
so,
we've
made
some
adjustments
to
the
schedule
again
to
try
to
give
us
as
much
time
as
possible
to
make
decisions.
Initially,
the
managers
proposed
budget
was
going
to
be
brought
to
you
all
on
may
12.
D
The
public
hearing
was
going
to
be
on
May,
26th
and
council
is
going
to
adopt
on
June
9th
we're
proposing
now
to
move
the
presentation
of
majors
proposed
budget
back
to
May
26th.
That
will
still
allow
us
to
meet
this
statutory
deadline
of
having
a
proposed
budget
presenting
you
all
by
June
1st,
so
we'll
make
that
change.
They
will
will
then
move
the
public
hearing
back
by
one
meeting
and
plan
on
moving
adoption
of
the
budget.
Also
back
to
the
last
meeting
in
June,
I
was
again
the
last
time
that
statutorily
we
could.
D
You
all,
could
adopt
a
a
full
one-year
budget.
Now
there
is
one
other
option
and
we
didn't
want
to
mention
this.
It
hasn't
gotten
a
whole
lot
of
discussion
so
far
at
least,
but
state
statutes
do
allow
for
the
adoption
of
an
interim
budget.
So
we
feel,
like
you
know
in
June,
that
we
really
don't
have
enough
information
yet
to
make
final
decisions.
D
Local
governments
in
North
Carolina
can't
adopt
an
interim
budget.
It
was
done
back
in
2003
a
lot
of
governments
across
the
state.
Did
it
at
that
point
because
there
was
some
uncertainty
about
the
state
withholding
some
money
from
us
during
that
time
we
utilized
a
two-month
interim
budget
and
fyo
three,
so
that
got
us
through
to
the
end
of
August
and
then
Kansas
City
Council
adopted
the
annual
budget.
D
C
G
F
F
C
D
You
can
the
problem
was,
and
this
is
what
happened
last
time
was
eventually
the
the
county
needs
to
know
what
the
tax
rates
going
to
be
so
that
they
can
begin
billing,
and
so
last
time
they
told
us
that
by
the
end
of
August,
we
really
needed
to.
Let
them
know
what
our
tax
rate
was
going
to
be,
and
so
really.
A
A
D
A
D
A
D
Yes,
so
alright,
so
in
speaking
of
being
fluids,
fluid
there
is
a
lot
of
unknowns.
Obviously-
and
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
this
already,
how
far
will
sales
tax
revenue
fall?
How
quickly
will
economic
growth
returning
well,
it
looks
like
would
be
a
v-shaped
recovery,
or
is
it
going
to
be
more
of
a
gradual
recovery?
We've
talked
a
little
bit
about
how
property
tax
collection
rates
may
decline.
D
We
haven't
really
witnessed
that
before
and
any
of
other
in
the
other
recessions,
but
that's
definitely
a
possibility
this
time
around
will
city
facilities
continue
to
be
shut
down
after
July
1st
and
back
to
that
question
of
when
and
how
much
assistance
will
we
receive
from
the
federal
and
state
government?
So
a
lot
of
the
knows.
So
please
keep
that
in
mind
as
we
go
through
the
next
few
slides.
So
here's
where
we
get
pretty
pretty
number
heavy
at
this
point.
D
So
when
we
met
with
you
all
to
retreat,
we
talked
about
baseline
revenue
growth
in
the
general
fund,
and
at
that
point
we
were
estimating.
We
were
going
to
get
about
6.8
million
dollars
in
revenue
growth
next
year,
where
we're
at
today
is
we're
down
to
two
million
dollars.
So
that's
been
a
four
point:
eight
million
dollar
reduction
in
our
growth
projections
in
about
a
month,
we'll
walk
you
through.
What?
What?
What
that
four
point?
Eight
million
dollars
makes
up.
The
biggest
piece
of
it
is
is
sales
taxes.
D
We
talked
a
little
bit
about
what
the
league
is
projecting
for
the
rest
of
this
year.
They
put
out
three
scenarios
for
next
year,
the
most
conservative
of
which
is
an
overall
decline
of
3.2
percent
for
the
year
for
sales
taxes,
their
most
aggressive,
which
they
call.
The
moderate
approach
is
1.5
percent
growth
and
what
they're,
what
they
project
there
is
essentially
sales
taxes
would
be
would
be
flat
for
the
first
part
of
the
fiscal
year
and
then
we'd
start
to
see
some
growth
in
the
second
half
of
the
year.
D
So,
right
now
in
our
in
our
budget
projections,
we're
using
the
modern
scenario
so
we're
using
the
most
aggressive
of
those
three,
but
the
league
is
put
out
I
mean
even
even
with
using
that
estimate.
We
are
still
that
represents
a
2.8
million
dollar
reduction
in
our
estimate
compared
to
what
we
were,
what
we
were
had,
what
we
had
in
the
budget
in
March
when
we
talked
to
you
all
on
property
taxes.
Again
I
mentioned
that
reduction
in
the
collection
rate
by
state
statute.
D
We
can't
budget
a
higher
collection
rate
next
year
than
what
we're
anticipating
this
year
and
so
by
doing
that,
by
reducing
the
collection
rate
assumption,
we
had
to
reduce
our
property
tax
estimates
by
about
$600,000
for
next
year.
I
did
have
a
conversation
this
morning
with
the
county
tax
assessor.
You
all
may
have
heard
from
the
county
budget
project
or
budget
presentation
last
week.
That
HCA
is
a
still
appealing
their
property
tax
values.
D
Our
conversation
this
morning,
he
told
me
that
the
numbers
that
they've
given
us
the
estimates
for
next
year
assumes
a
a
loss
appealed
loss
associated
with
that.
So,
for
now
at
least,
we
know
he
doesn't
think
we
need
to
go
back
and
change
our
revenue
estimates
based
on
I'm
based
around
how
much
we
think
we're
going
to
get
from
HCA,
but
he
does
think
that
appeal
process
will
continue
for
a
while.
So
we
may
not
have
answers
to
that
before
budget
adoption
takes
place.
Tony.
G
F
D
Okay,
some
other
Revenue
adjustments,
we've
made
and
I
mentioned
the
reduction
in
the
current
year
estimate
for
investment
learning
the
same
thing.
Next
year
we
had
to
reduce
our
estimate
there.
We
were
going
to
bring
you
all
some
fee
increases
in
fact,
you're
originally
scheduled
to
adopt
those
tonight.
Given
the
current
situation,
we
have
decided
to
not
recommend
any
fee
fee
increases
at
this
point
in
the
general
fund
or
any
of
the
other
funds,
and
what
that
means
is
a
about
a
three
hundred
thousand
dollar
reduction
in
revenue.
D
So
what
that
looks
like
in
just
terms
of
budget
to
budget
comparison,
so
this
current
year
we
had
a
total
revenue
budget
of
132
million.
We
now
think
that
growth
for
next
year
is
going
to
be
just
a
little
over
two
million
dollars
again
most
of
those
in
property
taxes,
and
so
so
that's
that's
the
reduce
picture,
so
we've
gone
from
6.8
million
in
available
revenue
down
to
what
we
think
of
as
F
is
about
two
million
dollars
in
new
revenue
for
next
year
is.
A
D
Okay,
so
switching
gears
to
expenses.
So
you
all
may
remember.
When
we
talked
about
the
baseline
budget
in
March
and
also
in
January,
we
told
you
that
revenue
growth
was
was
likely
going
to
be
eaten
up
by
all
by
the
expenditure
growth
in
the
baseline
budget.
So
we
were
projecting
about
6.8
million
in
next.
Your
growth
we've
gone
back
in
the
past
few
weeks,
and
we've
made
some
reductions
to
that.
To
that
growth.
D
We've
gotten
it
down
to
about
three
point:
four
million
dollars
still
don't
have
a
balanced
budget
budget
and
the
general
fund
we're
still
working
on
that,
but
wanted
to
walk
you
you
all
through
some
of
the
changes
that
we've
made
to
the
budget,
to
get
it
closer
to
being
balanced,
but
one
to
start
with
just
mentioning
those
things
that
are
still
included
in
next
year's
base
budget.
One
is
the
implementation
of
the
31,
which
we
mentioned
already,
and
we
talked
about
this
year.
D
We
have
a
chart
that
I'm
just
going
to
summarize
this
in
a
few
slides,
some
changes
that
we
have
made
to
try
and
bring
expenditures
down.
We
mentioned
the
hiring
freeze.
We
will
likely
be
extending
that
into
the
beginning,
at
least
of
next
fiscal
year
for
all
currently
vacant
positions
we
have
taken
out
the
employee
pay
adjustment
which
we
originally
had
assumed
would
take
place
at
the
very
beginning
of
next
fiscal
year
and
be
a
two
and
a
half
percent
increase.
D
D
The
gap
in
the
general
fund
is
about
1.5
billion
dollars.
We
are
going
to
work,
that's
for
the
next
step
for
us
and
internally
we're
going
to
continue
to
work
over
the
next
few
weeks
to
look
at
our
options
for
balancing
the
budget,
one
of
which
is
up,
but
obviously
be
a
fund
balance
appropriation
to
get
to
get
us
through.
We
may
have
to
make
some
additional
revenue
adjustments.
Perhaps
we
can
move
some
up.
D
D
A
good
question
so
I
think
you
know
we're.
Obviously,
as
we
get
additional
sales
tax
information,
we
actually
we
got
another
month
of
sales
tax.
It
was
only
jammed
with
January
sales
tax.
That
was
data
that
came
in
well
before
the
crisis
began,
but
we
got
that
information
yesterday
and
so
we're.
You
know
we're
cover
consistently
getting
new
information.
D
D
A
D
Again,
if
we
were
so,
for
example,
if
we
were
to,
we
still
have
several
months
well,
we
have
January
and
February
sales
tax.
For
me,
we
just
got
January
yesterday
and
it
was
better
than
we
had
anticipated.
So
we
factored
that
into
our
estimates,
so
that
may
help
slightly
increase
our
revenue
estimates
for
sales
taxes
for
next
year,
even
if
we
keep
the
same
assumptions
moving
forward,
so
there
may
be
some
opportunity
for
that
again.
D
I,
don't
think,
there's
a
whole
lot
of
opportunity
on
the
revenue
side
in
terms
of
looking
at
the
data
and
increase
in
the
adjustments
there.
So
so
it's
really
it's.
It
may
come
down
to
a
question
of
fund
balance
appropriation
and
how
much
as
we
as
an
organization
are
comfortable
with
you
know,
fun
balance.
I
mean
this
is
really
the
type
of
situation.
It
means
the
classic
textbook
type
type
of
situation
where
you
would
want
to
use
fun
balance
to
get
you
through
the
short
term.
D
G
F
G
D
And
endeavor
did
remind
me,
I
didn't
mention
you
know,
obviously
the
federal
and
state
assistance-
and
so
you
know
as
and
that
might
be
an
opportunity
to
you
know
to
add
revenue
to
next
year's
budget.
If
we
find
that
we're
going
to
get
money
to
help
offset
the
expenses
or
the
lost
revenue
that
we're
seeing
so
they
did.
That
is
one
positive
opportunity.
We
may
see.
F
H
F
C
F
D
That
were
that
we're
right
now
keeping
flat
based
on
trend
for
next
year,
but
yeah.
That's
one
actually
not
been
on
my
radar
so,
but
we
can
reach
out
and
and
see
what
they're
estimating
for
the
last
quarter
of
this
year.
There's
that's
also
one
of
those
revenues
where
there's
a
lag,
and
so
we
won't
get
that
last
quarter
payment
until
early.
E
E
G
C
E
I
Time,
theoretically,
that
may
not
be
a
bad
idea
of
living
capital
projects.
I
know
that's
one
of
the
years
you
guys
are
tightening
up,
and
the
reason
for
that
is,
you
know,
depending
on
what's
happening
in
the
market.
What
typically
happens
in
recession?
Is
those
prices
go
down?
So
so
you
know
to
the
extent
we
have
funding
the
extent
it's
possible
to
do
that.
I
I
C
I
D
We've
had
some
kind
of
conversations
internally
about
about
that
and
we
definitely
wanna
move
ahead
with
all
the
general
obligation
bond
projects
that
are
underway
since
that's
under
a
seven
year
deadline.
I
know
some
of
you,
some
of
the
other
local
governments
across
the
state.
We've
talked
to
have
been
delaying
capital.
Some
places
have
a
lot
more
page.
D
You
go
capital
than
we
have
here,
and
so
that
provides
an
opportunity
for
kind
of
an
immediate
cash
savings
that
we
don't
really
have
here,
because
so
much
of
our
capital
is
debt
funded,
but
but
definitely
on
our
radar
and
and
I.
Think
there's
also
some
talk
about
a
potential.
You
know
second
round
of
stimulus,
perhaps
being
an
R
type
stimulus
from
before
that
would
go
toward
capital
infrastructure
and
making
sure
that
we're
positioned
to
have
projects
available.
That
would
be
eligible
for
that
type
of
funding
and.
I
G
D
To
transition
again,
we
left
off
with
the
the
baseline
budget
and
just
to
kind
of
transition
into
the
strategic
investment
request.
The
enhancement
requests
that
we
discussed
with
you
all
at
the
at
the
retreat,
and
there
were
a
number
of
those
that
came
up
through
the
budget
process.
Three
departments.
This
is
a
slide
that
we
share
with
you
all
at
the
retreat.
That
highlighted
some
of
those
that
address
you.
All's
strategic
priorities
there's
also
a
second
slide
here,
which
shows
some
more
of
those
requests
that
were
part
of
the
what
we
call
the
enhancement
budget.
D
You
all
heard
specifically
about
three
of
those
requests
at
the
retreat
one
one
areas
transit.
So
we
did
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
that.
As
I
mentioned,
we
do.
There
is
money
in
the
continuation
budget
for
a
full
year,
implementation
of
the
enhancements
that
we
started
this
year.
However,
at
the
moment
you
know
we
talked
about
a
tax
rate
increase
potentially
to
fund
the
extended
hours
for
next
year.
So
right
now
at
least
there's
no
money
in
the
budget.
For
that
you
know
we'll
continue
to
look
at
the
money.
B
A
H
H
H
Is
you
know
it
the
longer
this
lasts
and
the
more
people
are
out
of
work
for
a
longer
period
of
time
the
more
transit
is
going
to
become
a
key
part
of
our
recovery
and,
as
I
said
at
the
retreat,
you
know
part
of
Bill
mozillian
of
our
city,
and
so
I
think
I
would
continue
to
add.
I
would
I
would
advocate
for
putting
that
money
toward
that
service,
and
then
you
know
we,
even
if
we
don't
know
where
it's
gonna
come
from
the
next
year
we
figure
it
out.
H
A
This
need
to
do
a
little
jumping
off
I
mean
I.
Would
just
push
back
on
you
that
this
isn't
the
normal
I
get
a
year
to
year
unknown
scenario
again
this
could
be
a
catastrophic,
a
catastrophic
change
in
revenue
year
over
year,
so
I
I,
don't
I
would
want
to
be
before
we
start
spending
new
money.
Mm-Hmm
I
want
to
I
want
to
know.
If
we're
gonna
see-
and
you
know
a
little
bit
of
a
normalization
on
the
horizon-
I
mean
I.
A
F
Maybe
and
I
think
too
so
I
mean
you
know
again,
hoping
against
hope
that
we'll
actually
get
a
state
legislature
will
actually
do
something
with
the
TDA
funding.
I
I
sense
that
that
will
not
be
on
their
priority
list
in
May.
I
could
be
wrong,
but
also
I
mean
I,
think
you
know,
and
and
that
puts
the
the
additional
revenue
squarely
on
either
property
tax
increases
or
sales
tax
increase,
and
you
know
we're
really
going
to
have
to
see
how
the
community
recovers
I
mean,
as
as
as
we
are,
highly
tourists
dependent.
F
So
an
idea
that
we're
going
to
be
able
to
increase
our
revenue
through
even
sales
tax
may
not
be
reasonable
at
all
for
the
next
several
years,
not
just
next
year
but
the
next
several
years.
So
you
know,
assuming
that
magically
we're
going
to
find
that
money,
especially
given
how
reliant
are
our
local
economy
is
on
tourism,
I'm
or
visitors.
I
am
very
nervous
about
that.
Yeah.
H
I
With
respect
to
transit
is
going
forward,
is
you
know,
regardless
of
which
way?
You
know
whether
we
fund
the
additional
hours
and
figure
out
a
way
is
just
just
having
a
sense
once
things
do
return
to
normal,
you
know
is,
is
what
we're
invested.
The
question
I
keep
coming
back
to
on
transit.
Is
it's
not
because
I
don't
want
to
expand
it
or
otherwise?
It's
are
we
getting
the
dollars
or
is
the
value
for
what
we're
getting
worth
right
is?
Is
there
enough
ridership,
you
know
and
I
know,
there's
this
theory
of.
I
Don't
want
to
I,
don't
want
to
I,
don't
want
to
suggest
that
there's
not
some
merit
to
that,
but
I
think
you
know,
given
the
amount
of
money
that's
being
put
in
here
and
how
expensive
it
is,
having
a
sense
of
saying.
Okay,
are
we
hitting
the
targets
that
we
think
we
should
be
hitting
with
this
in
terms
of
ridership,
and
now
is
the
terrible
time
to
measure
I'm.
I
I
would
have
my
hat
on
doing
what
Julie's
doing
on
the
next
slide,
but
you
know,
but
I
think
we
need
to
be
able
to
say
to
out
of
those
those
folks
like
the
money's
going
over
here.
It's
doing.
We
think
it's
going
to
do
because
it
because,
if
it's
not
and
and
you
know-
and
there
may
be
alternatives-
I,
you
know
for
for
getting
people
transportation
to
where
they
need
to
where
they
need
to
go
me.
I
C
B
So
in
April
the
complexity
is
exponentially
different
than
than
it
I
would
say
it
is
way
more
complex
than
it
wasn't
in
March.
So
with
additional
revenue
from
the
federal
government
state
government.
The
first
thing
we're
going
to
try
to
do
is
offset
expenses.
That's
not
that's
our
first
thing
we're
going
to
try
to
pay
ourselves
back
for
the
amount
of
effort
and
money
and
expenses.
You
saw
a
lot
of
expenses
that
are
going
out
and
not
a
whole
lot
coming
in.
So
that
would
be
the
first
priority
for
the
terms
of
care.
B
Is
that
because
the
the
parameters,
the
guidelines
are
to
address
covent
19
types
of
impacts,
then
we
will
look
at
enhancements
any
kind
of
service
enhancements.
We
also
talked
about.
We
need
to
really
go
back
and
look
at
the
transit
master
plan
and
that
schedule
of
implementation
and
I
think
at
the
retreat.
B
You
all
are
saying
that
you're
not
trying
to
keep
the
you're
not
trying
to
add
the
service
extensions
as
part
of
that
relook
it
we
may
have
to
we
may
have
to
in
terms
of
when
it
will
be
financially
and
physically
feasible
for
us
to
actually
roll
out
those
services.
Considering
where
we
are
again,
we
are
going
to
look
at
and
and
I
have
gone
on
record
I
am
so
committed
to
transit,
I
think
it
helps
build
communities.
It
is
key
for
again
choice
riders.
We
have
to
have
some
form
of
transit,
I,
think.
H
B
What
you're
saying
yes
Congrats
the
bus
is
their
choice
and,
and
so
the
vernacular
when
I
came
to
Asheville,
was
not
transit
dependent,
but
choice.
That's
the
only
to
us.
They
have
some
of
us.
We
have
other
choices
so
anyway
committed
to
transit,
but
it
has
to
be
run
efficiently
in
order
for
us
to
build
a
quality
transit
sister.
B
H
At
that
yeah
I
mean
my
question
would
be
you
know
if
we
don't
use
it
for
enhancements,
I
I,
don't
see
how
we
could
possibly
use
3.8
million
or
if,
let's
just
call
it
three
million
after
we
make
up
for
expenses
this
year.
You
know
how
we
could
use
three
million
dollars
other
than
on
enhancements.
I
mean
the
only
sort
of
the
options
would
be.
F
H
You
coming
if
it
means
that
Center
is
going
to
cost
50
million
dollars,
I
mean
but
I
mean
the
I
mean,
so
we
could
I
mean
and
I'm
gonna
encourage
us
not
to
do
this.
You
know,
use
this
three
million
and
displace
three
million
that
now
comes
from
the
general
fund,
but
then
you're
in
the
same
situation
that
you
are
the
next
year
that
you're
not
going
to
have
that
three
million
and
you
got
to
you
got
to
put
it
back.
So,
although
you
might
be
in
a.
H
You
might
be,
but
you're
you
know
it's,
it's
the
it's
the
same
argument
for
sort
of
not
making
the
service
expansion.
You're
you'd
have
to
go,
find
that
money
somewhere
else
so
anyway,
so
yeah
I,
guess
you
know
the
next
time
we
have.
This
conversation
would
love
to
obviously
see
the
plan
for
how
you're.
B
Planning
we
will
have
more
details,
I
keep
looking
at
my
phone
cuz
Jessica
and
lots
of
messages
that
I
can't
read
and
talk
at
the
same
time,
but
she
does
have
a
number
of
ideas
about
how
we
could
use
that
money.
But
she
agrees
with
me
that
the
first
priority
is
pay
ourselves
address
the
kovat
related
things
and
then
potentially
look
at
enhancements.
So
that's
the
priority.
We
would
be
looking
at
those
federal
three.
D
Okay,
again,
you
all
received
presentation
specifically
on
three
investments
at
the
retrieve.
The
second
of
those
is
compensation.
As
we've
mentioned
a
couple
times,
we
are
moving
ahead
with
the
implementation
of
thirty
one
two
and
dressing
the
compression
across
all
funds.
That's
about
a
$450,000
annual
impact.
D
Then,
finally,
on
sustainability,
we
do
have
some
money
available
in
what
we
call
the
green
green
savings
program
that
we
will
utilize
to
address
some
of
the
areas
that
are
that
are
part
of
the
sustainability
plan.
But
there's
not
going
to
be
significant
funding
or
any
funding
really
available.
At
this
point.
For
some
of
the
major
capital
items
that
we
have
been
looking
at,
such
as
the
roof
replacements
in
the
building
systems,
or
to
address
the
waste
reduction
plans
that
have
been
requested
by
departments
and.
D
It's
now,
you
know
very
minimal
revenue
growth,
as
we've
shown
you
all
and
it's
it's.
It's
eaten
up,
even
after
making
reductions
to
the
initial
round
of
expenses
that
we
had
programs
for
next
year,
and
then
you
know
if
physical
picture
improves
or
if
we
get
federal
money
that's
available
for
other
services,
then
we
can
consider
enhancements,
but
Italy
will
take
that
additional
revenue
to
make
those
those
investments
the
next
fiscal
year
so
kind
of
the
next
steps.
D
As
we
mentioned,
adjusting
the
budget
adoption
schedule,
that's
actually
going
to
come
to
you
all
on
the
May
12th
agenda
for
formal
action
through
you
all
to
adjust
the
schedule.
We're
obviously
gonna
continue
to
monitor
economic
trends
and
make
adjustments
as
needed
and
we're
going
to
work
to
balance
the
general
fund
budget
over
the
next
few
weeks
and
then
come
back
to
you
all
with
a
proposed
budget.
At
the
end
of
the
end.
D
Turn
it
over.
It
is
for
discussion
that
the
coming
councilmen
were,
which
they're
made
about
you've,
really
not
known
when
things
were
returned
to
normal,
so
you
know
typically
for
local
governments,
there's
no
there's
a
lag
between
when
the
FMO
session
happens
and
when
it
really
impacts
them,
and
so
with
the
Great
Recession
ten
years
ago.
It
was
really
that
not
the
initial
year
that
happened
that
was
the
year
after
and
even
the
year
after
that,
what
we
saw
the
the
biggest
financial
pinch
this.
This
may
be
different.
This
time.
D
Obviously,
we've
never
experienced
this
kind
of
crisis
before
so
we
may
make
a
quicker
recovery,
but
it's
just
really
impossible
to
say
at
this
point.
You
know
how
quickly
the
economy
is
going
to
recover.
After
all,
this
is
over.
So
with
that
any
any
questions
you
all
might
have,
or
discussions
around
any
of
you
courier
next
year,
any
discussion.
I
These
such
as
things,
these
types
of
situations
do
provide
opportunities
more
and
things
like
capital,
I'm,
looking
you're,
not
just
it
like
out
of
the
roads
or
whatever,
but
also
things
like
housing,
right
and
and
those
types
of
those
types
of
capital
projects
or
those
types
of
funding
that
we
may
want
to
do.
You
know
there
will
be
federal
dollars
that
will
be
coming
down.
The
pike
I
have
given
even
what
we've
seen
so
far,
which
is
a
pretty
unprecedented
in
an
election
year.
I
I
have
no
doubt
more
will
be
coming,
but
but
those
are
opportunities
and
they're
gonna
be
one-timers
to
think
about.
Okay,
well,
you
know
is
there?
Is
there
you
know,
abilities
to
to
divert
some
of
our
housing
needs
here
or
otherwise
through
some
of
those
funds
that
may
be
coming
down?
The
pike
that
that
aren't.
I
I
A
Just
I
want
to
make
sure
everyone
on
the
phone
Shaniqua,
Brian,
Keith
I
know
you
guys
are
having
a
hard
time
listening
on
the
phone,
so
you're,
probably
watching
the
live
stream,
which
has
a
little
bit
of
a
delay.
So
if
any
of
you
have
any
questions,
we'll
just
hang
tight
for
here
for
just
a
second
and
see
if
there
are
any
questions
from
anyone
on
the
phone.
B
B
B
But
if
there
are
no
further
questions,
we
really
appreciate
the
time
we
appreciate
all
the
good
advice
and
direction
and
we'll
go
back.
We'll
do
a
lot
of
homework
and
we'll
wait
for
additional
information
so
that
we
can
come
back
I
believe
in
May,
May
4th,
okay,
second
meeting
in
May
26
to
provide
you
all
with
additional
information.
Thank
you.