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From YouTube: City Council Meeting – March 23, 2021
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March 23, 2021
Asheville City Council Meeting
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This
evening
we
will
take
a
short
recess
that
is
in
my
script,
but
please
remind
me
if
I
overlook
it.
Anyone,
especially
you
maggie
or
remind
me,
maybe
for
public
comment.
We
asked
callers
to
sign
up
in
advance
to
join
the
live
speaker
queue
for
those
who
signed
up
to
speak.
Please
again,
please
use
the
meeting
code.
I
just
said
7982
to
enter
the
meeting
and
join
the
speaker
queue.
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Then
you
will
hear
an
automated
message,
letting
you
know
you
are
unmuted
and
live
in
the
meeting.
You
may
begin
speaking
after
the
automated
message
to
best
ensure
staff
can
support
you
in
the
case
of
technical
difficulties,
we
ask
that
you
join
the
queue
no
later
than
the
beginning
of
the
agenda
item
before
the
agenda
item
on
which
you
have
signed
up
to
speak.
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Additionally,
if
you
have
joined
the
speaker
queue
and
need
to
disconnect
before
your
time
speak,
please
hit
star
4
before
hanging
up.
You
can
then
call
back.
You
can
then
call
back
in
using
the
same
directions.
I
just
enter
you
back
into
the
speaker.
Queue
of
your
agenda
item
all
right.
I
would
like
to
ask
those
participating
in
tonight's
public
comment
to
follow
council's
rules
of
decorum.
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I
pledge
allegiance
to
the
flag
of
the
united
states
of
america
and
to
the
republic
for
which
it
stands.
One
nation,
under
god,
indivisible
with
liberty,
messing
it
up
indivisible
with
liberty
and
justice
for
all.
I
knew
that
was
going
to
happen.
One
of
these
nights
that
I
was
going
to
get
spaced
out
and
say
the
pledge
wrong.
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Next,
we
have
our
consent
agenda
and
we
do
need
to
remove
item
I
from
our
consent
agenda
and
but
do
I
have
a
motion
and
a
second
to
a
councilwoman
romani
asked
that
we
consider
item
I,
which
has
been
concerning
the
retreat
separately.
So
do
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
consent
agenda
without
item?
I.
G
Thank
you
hi
city
council.
My
name
is
patrick
conan
and
I
live
in
east
west
asheville.
I'm
making
a
comment
on
consent
agenda
item
I
related
to
the
council
retreat.
While
I
know
this
is
pulled
from
the
consent
agenda,
I'm
not
sure.
If
we'll
be
able
to
comment
later,
I
would
encourage
city
council
to
pull
this
item
off
the
consent
agenda
and
allow
for
greater
discussions.
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A
statutory
citations
helped
me
better
understand
what
the
basis
was
to
treat
a
full
council
gathering
as
something
other
than
public
meetings,
absent
a
specific
statutory
exception,
and
I've
not
received
any
anything.
In
response
to
that
query,
I
appreciate
that
there
will
be
no
response
to
this
comment,
which
makes
these
efforts
to
communicate
respectfully
with
council
really
quite
frustrating.
H
I.
I
am
concerned
that,
even
if
we
have
an
identified
specific
statutory
exception
that
at
a
time
where
I
think
we're
all
sharing
a
real
interest
in
increasing
trust
between
you
as
a
governing
body
and
the
communities
of
asheville,
the
governed
that
having
a
portion
of
a
council
convening
that
is
not
open
and
available
for
public
viewing
is,
is
not
in
the
best
interest
of
furthering
that
trust.
I
hope
that
in
the
discussion
that
will
ensue
that
you
will
reconsider
this
decision.
Thank
you.
So
much.
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A
Have
two
people
signed
up
to
speak
under
the
consent
agenda
that
signed
up?
You
were
emailed
the
list
earlier
today.
Did
you
all
receive
that
earlier
today?
I
got
it
okay,
because
the
email
came
through
at
1007
this
morning
from
maggie
maggie.
Are
you
on
here?
Yes,
and
we
have
just
heard
from
the
two
folks
that
signed
up
to
speak
under
the
consent
agenda.
E
The
march
31st
meeting
will
begin
at
3
p.m,
and
the
april
1st
meeting
will
begin
at
8
30
a.m,
both
on
the
arena
floor
of
harris
cherokee
center
asheville,
located
at
87
haywood
street
asheville
north
carolina.
This
retreat
will
be
in
person
for
council
members,
a
small
number
of
staff
facilitators
and
members
of
the
media.
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However,
due
to
covert
restrictions,
the
public
should
continue
to
view
the
public.
The
excuse
me
view
the
meeting.
Virtually
members
of
the
city,
council
and
city
staff
will
meet
on
march
31st
prior
to
the
start
of
the
public
meeting,
but
no
public
business
will
be
deliberated
and
no
actions
will
be
taken.
This
portion
of
the
retreat
will
not
be
open
to
the
public
members
of
the
public
and
the
media
will
be
provided.
It
means
to
view
the
meeting
remotely,
but
no
public
comment
will
be
taken.
K
The
only
comment
that
I'll
make
at
this
moment
this
is
kim
is
that
I've
expressed
my
concerns
already
regarding
a
private
portion
of
the
retreat
to
my
colleagues,
and
this
includes
the
need
to
engage
our
community
partners
to
build
trust
and
capacity
during
this
time
of
overlapping
emergencies.
So
I
can't
vote
to
support
the
action
tonight.
K
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M
Again
good
evening
and
appreciate
it
mayor,
this
has
been
a
long
day
for
you
all
and
the
earlier
part
of
your
meeting
or
your
day
was
focused
around
identifying
school
board
members
potentially
or
interviewing
them.
This
particular
presentation
will
continue
that
discussion
around
schools.
I
am
really
really
excited
about
this
opportunity
that
we
have
as
a
community
to
collaborate
around
addressing
the
needs
of
of
school-age
kids
in
in
our
community.
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Peggy
rowe
is
going
to
provide
you
with
a
detailed
presentation
on,
as
I
said
earlier,
collaborative
initiative,
spearheaded
by
the
united
way
of
belcombe
county
of
asheville
in
buckland
county,
and
I
will
turn
it
over
to
her
to
present
you
with
the
information,
but
just
before
I
do.
We
are
not
asking
for
any
kind
of
action
tonight.
Just
simply
to
introduce
this
initiative
to
you.
Peggy.
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Thank
you
miss
campbell
good
evening
mayor
vice
mayor
council
members,
peggy
roe,
as
ms
campbell
said,
special
assistant
to
the
city
manager,
and
I
want
to
take
the
opportunity
to
just
introduce
you
to
this
united
for
youth
network
concept.
I
think
it's
a
very
exciting
opportunity
for
this
city
and
hopefully
you'll
see
that
it's
aligned
with
your
2036
vision
for
connected
and
engaged
community
and
equitable
and
diverse
community
and,
as
ms
campbell
said,
we're
planning
tonight,
just
to
introduce
you
to
the
concept
and
at
a
future
council
meeting.
N
Hopefully
in
april,
we'll
come
back
to
you
for
and
ask
you
to
consider
to
vote
on
joining
the
complete
the
community
partnership
and
between
now,
and
then
we
will
give
you
a
copy
of
that
partnership.
Agreement
with
more
detail
and
you'll
have
an
opportunity
to
delve
deeper
into
the
concept
and
ask
questions
of
deborah
who
serves
on
the
board
or
kathy
ball
or
myself.
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N
The
community
goal
is
by
2035
all
city
and
buncombe
county
students
will
graduate
from
high
school
ready
and
fully
prepared
to
pursue,
pursue
their
goals
and
dreams,
and
this
chart
demonstrates
where
we
are
today
and
where
we
hope
to
be
in
2035
next
slide.
Please,
network
partners
and
many
of
these
partners
that
you
see
listed
here
have
been
working
together
on
removing
barriers
for
a
number
of
years.
What's
changed
is
the
name.
N
N
It
has
already
begun
to
create
a
united
consolidated
form
of
measuring
how
well
we're
doing
so,
not
just
how
well
we're
doing
as
a
city,
but
how
well
this
partnership
network
is
is
doing
with
regard
to
meeting
at
school
next
slide.
Please
evidence-based
best
practices
and
they're
they're,
just
a
few
here
to
just
give
you
some
examples.
So,
for
example,
integrated
student
supports
might
look
like
having
school
based
health,
centers
and
mental
and
behavioral
health
counseling
available
student
activity.
Excuse
me,
authentic
and
active
family
and
community
engagement
might
include
homework.
N
Diners
and
many
of
you
may
have
already
participated
in
some
of
those
parent
leadership
programs.
Enriched
learning
opportunities
might
include
mentoring
and
tutoring
experiences
out
of
school
time
programming,
and
then
the
collaborative
cross-sector
leadership
might
include
school-based
resource
teams
etc.
Next
slide,
please.
N
N
One
is
continuing
the
learning
centers
the
pods
continue
to
improve
transit
access
to
those
who
rely
on
it.
The
most
continue
providing
quality
programs
through
the
parks
and
rec,
and
perhaps
expanding
some
of
those
programs,
if
necessary,
next
slide,
please
other
city
commitments
enhance
and
grow
the
workforce
development
program.
The
kayla
program,
possibly
look
at
who
is
entering
the
kayla
program,
is
that
the
right
group
should
it
be
targeted
differently,
etc.
N
Consider
reiman
imagining
the
role
of
school
resource
officers
and
the
officers
assigned
to
public
housing
communities
as
we
continue.
Reimagining
policing
continue
using
strategic
initiative
funds
to
address
achievement,
gaps
for
asheville
city
school
students
continue
addressing
affordable
housing
needs
and
ms
campbell
serves
on
the
board
for
the
united
way
and
has
been
a
big
instrumental
part
of
this
initiative.
N
E
Peggy
this
is
gwen.
I
appreciate
I
appreciate
that,
and
it
does
sound
exciting.
Well,
we
have
we
will
we
have
access
to
all
the
partnership
agreements
and
all
the
commitments.
You
know
I've
expressed
in
the
past
that
I'd
really
like
to
see
the
kayla
program
expanded
and
I'd
like
to
see
the
businesses
that
use
our
kayla
interns
for
internships
actually
help
fund.
E
That
program
which
currently
the
city
of
asheville
is
funding
or
city
and
county
is
funding
100,
even
though
interns
are
provided
to
businesses
and
they're,
not
they're,
not
contributing
financially
to
those
programs.
So,
although
I,
I
suspect
I'll
be
very
supportive
of
of
the
city
getting
involved
with
this,
I
really
want.
I
really
think
the
value
of
it
is
that
all
the
partners
jump
in
and
contribute
not
only
but
time
it
time
and
resources
which,
right
now,
some
of
the
some
of
the
programs
seem
a
little
lopsided
to
me.
E
So
I
would
just
like
to
cut
sort
of
see
who's
in
and
what
they're
in,
for
I
realize
that
that
probably
won't
be
available
by
the
time
we
sign
the
agreement.
But
I
would
like
to
continue
to
understand
that,
and
I
would
encourage
the
other
council
women
to
reach
out
to
those
other
partners
and
encourage
them
to
get
involved
and
contribute
talent
and
treasure.
N
K
This
is
kim,
I
have
a
couple
questions.
Are
we
hearing
any
concerns
about
data
entry
capacity
because,
as
larger
organizations
benefit
from
on
the
ground
in
relational
buy-in,
I'm
wondering
how
small
and
grassroots
partners
can
be
funded
to
meet
and
expand
the
capacity
needed
to
participate
in
the
program.
N
N
N
There
have
been
75,
who've
been
asked
to
participate
and
we
can
keep
you
updated
as
those
partnerships
are
finalized,
but
no
ma'am,
they're
they're,
not
all
involved
at
this
point,
they're
they're
involved
in
the
collaboration,
but
they
haven't
all
signed
the
formal
agreement
at
this
point.
Am
I
right
about
that
miss
campbell?
Are
you
aware.
N
A
A
Q
A
Okay,
thank
you
public
hearing,
item
b.
This
is
a
public
hearing
to
authorize
the
city
manager
to
submit
an
amendment
to
the
2020
2021
annual
action
plan
for
community
development
block
grants
and
the
home
investment
partnerships
program,
programs
to
the
u.s
department
of
housing
and
urban
development
and
to
sign
all
necessary
documents
and
a
budget
amendment
to
increase
the
amount
of
the
fiscal
year.
A
2020
2021
cdbg
fund
budget
to
include
1.6
million
from
the
sale
of
city-owned
land
originally
purchased
through
the
urban
renewal
program
in
the
1970s,
and
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
community
development
program.
Director
paul
d'angelo
who's
going
to
present
this
item
and
I'd
just
like
to
remind
folks
that
this
is
the
public
hearing
on
this
item.
A
R
Hi,
thank
you
so
much
good
evening,
mayor
vice
mayor
and
city
council,
as
well
as
city
management,
paul
d'angelo,
here
with
community
and
economic
development.
Regarding
this
action.
This
evening
we
have
a
powerpoint
prepared
of
about
eight
slides
and
then
happy
to
take
any
questions.
After
that
we
did
want
to
start
off
with
a
few
key
takeaways.
R
This
funding
must
be
spent
by
may
1st
2021
to
pass
our
annual
hud
timeliness
test,
which
means
we
cannot
have
more
than
1.5
times
our
annual
allocation
or
approximately
1.5
million
dollars
for
asheville.
In
our
line
of
credit
account,
the
city
has
a
21
acre
parcel
of
land
under
contract
and
can
be
purchased
for
approximately
1.5
million.
By
may,
1st
2021
hud
does
have
a
long-standing
policy
of
reducing
the
next
year's
cdbg
grant
allocation
if
the
funds
aren't
spent
in
a
timely
manner
next
slide.
R
So
a
little
bit
of
background
on
the
sale
of
this
parcel
are
these
parcels
on
south
charlotte
street.
The
economic
development
partnership
with
white
labs
began
in
2015
with
a
five-year
plan
that
included
the
sale
of
172
and
174
south
charlotte
street.
A
portion
of
this
site
includes
land
purchased
by
the
city
through
urban
renewal
in
the
1970s.
R
This
land
was
listed
as
exempt
in
the
city's
decision
in
2020
to
suspend
the
sale
of
city
on
land
acquired
through
urban
renewal.
The
company
has
met
their
milestones
and
the
city
has
sold
the
land
to
fulfill
the
obligation
in
the
contract
next
slide
and
a
bit
more
backgrounds
here.
The
sale
occurred
in
late
2020
and
the
city
received
3.7
million
in
revenue,
with
1.6
million
classified
as
community
development
block
grant
program
income
due
to
the
ties
to
urban
renewal.
R
The
1.6
must
be
spent
on
cdbg
eligible
eligible
activities
to
benefit
low
and
moderate
income,
individuals
and
families,
and
in
accordance
with
the
timeless
test
next
slide.
So
just
regarding
a
timeline
with
this
fund.
With
this
funding,
staff
has
been
aware
for
over
a
year
that
this
property
sale
would
occur
and
be
received
as
community
development
block
grant
program
income.
Originally
a
closing
of
may
2020
was
suggested
and
planned,
giving
community
and
economic
development
more
flexibility
with
the
spend
and
the
time
in
this
test.
R
Nearly
one
year
staff
recognized
this
1.6
million
dollar
transaction
in
the
2021
action
plan
that
passed
in
november
of
2020
as
expected
income
with
a
plan
to
follow
next
slide
with
covid
and
standard
real
estate
closing
delays,
the
closing
date
shifted
and
ultimately
did
not
happen.
Until
december
of
2020.
R
staff
immediately
began
to
document
how
this
funding
could
be
spent
to
benefit
low
and
moderate
income,
individuals
and
families
on
an
eligible
activity
and
with
very
limited
options
based
on
the
hud
tomminess
test.
Additionally,
staff
contacted
hud
to
get
clarification
about
any
waivers
or
extensions
that
could
be
given
to
determine
if
it
was
possible
to
expand,
expand
and
extend
the
time
frame
of
the
city's
timeliness
test
and
or
to
develop
a
plan
to
spend
the
money
next
slide.
R
Regarding
the
purchase
and
eligible
activity
to
purchase.
65
ford
street
in
february
of
2020
city
council
approved
the
purchase
of
65
ford
street
using
affordable
housing
bond
dollars,
particularly
money
from
the
land
banking
fund
staff
shared
at
the
january
2021.
Affordable
housing
work
session
that
this
land
is
part
of
potentially
a
part
of
a
larger
60
acre
redevelopment
opportunity
in
partnership
with
the
housing
authority
of
the
city
of
asheville
or
hakka,
and
purpose-built
communities
nationally
recognized
purpose-built
communities.
R
The
city's
intent
with
this
land
purchase
is
to
improve
the
lives
of
low
and
modern
income
residents,
and
the
cycle
of
internet
intergenerational
poverty,
create
greater
greater
racial
equity
support
and
promote
economic
mobility
and
improve
the
health
and
education
outcomes
for
family
and
children.
This
land
acquisition
will
kick-start
an
approximate
year-long
community
engagement
and
planning
process.
R
R
Staff
is
working
on
a
framework
to
move
forward
with
the
master
planning
process
for
the
65
ford
street
and
the
cedar
hill
property
to
include
mixed
income,
mixed
use
and
various
ownership
models.
The
master
plan
could
but
does
not
require
the
city
to
work
with
or
partner
with
the
housing
authority.
R
R
Staff
has
been
working
closely
with
hud
for
guidance
on
this
program
income
and
this
large
amount
for
asheville
to
receive
and
have
been
reminded
that
if
a
grantee's
timely
performance
deficiency
remains
unaddressed,
hud
will
take
corrective
action
that
could
result
in
sanctions
next
slide
and
with
that
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
regarding
the
presentation
or
the
staff
report.
Thank
you.
S
R
R
So
staff,
when
we
had
more
options
a
year
ago,
looked
at
several
possible
things.
We
could
do
like
adding
money
to
our
annual
program
and
partnership
applications
with
cdbg
funding,
but
right
now
the
options
that
we've
looked
at
land
purchase
is
the
quickest
thing
we
can
do.
This
65
ford
street
was
lucky
enough
to
have
already
gone
through
a
variety
and
most
of
its
due
diligence.
R
R
P
R
So,
normally,
on
an
annual
basis,
we
only
receive
about
100,
maybe
200
000
a
year
in
program
income
that
comes
back
to
us.
This
is
eight
to
16
times
more
than
what
we
usually
receive
so
highly
unusual
to
get
funding
in
my
three
years
at
the
city.
This
is
like
by
far
the
largest
amount,
we've
gotten
100
to
hundred
thousand
dollars.
Is
it
easy
to
manage
in
our
application
process?
R
R
R
Yes,
we've
been
working
with
hud
pretty
closely
on
this,
anticipating
receiving
a
large
amount
of
money,
so
we've
been
trying
to
be
ahead
of
it
to
understand
what
it
means
for
us
to
receive
such
a
large
amount
of
money
best
way
to
plan
it,
putting
it
in
the
action
plan
and
looking
for
avenues
that
could
work
to
pass
a
timeliness
test.
Ideally,
if
it
would
have
been
may
2020,
I
think
we
would
have
had
more
options,
but
because
of
covet
and
natural
real
estate
closing
delays.
A
D
Just
briefly
and
thank
you
paul,
I
know
that
you
did
speak
to
this,
but
we
just
said
a
lot
of
information
really
quickly
and
I
received
a
lot
of
emails
concerned
that
this
money
was
going
to
be
used
to
redevelop.
Deverview.
And
I
wanted
to
just
be
clear.
And
maybe
if
you
could
step
back
and
again
tell
us
that
about
the
assemblage
of
land
out
here
in
the
cedar
cliff
and
the
adjacency.
And
perhaps
these
the
confusion
lies
and
that
these
are
adjacent
to
each
other.
D
Thank
you,
and
if
folks
are
listening
at
home
or
watching
at
home,
we're
able
to
see
the
agenda
and
click
through
there.
You
can
actually
google
purpose-built
communities.
It
is
an
entity,
it
is
an
organization,
it's
a
non-profit
and
there's
a
lot
more
information
on
their
website
in
case
that
wasn't
clear.
K
Paul
this
is
kim
I'm
understanding
from
this
presentation
that
the
housing
authority
is
doing
some
engagement
with
the
community
about
what
is
desired,
to
see
there,
but
that
the
city
doesn't
have
to
sort
of
require
it.
So
I
was
just
wondering
in
what
ways
can
we
engage
community
to
ensure
that
the
needs
are
being
met
as
intended
for
potential
homebuyer
input
before
decisions
are
already
made?
K
I'm
asking
this
because
I
hear
so
many
times
that
community
will
say:
community
members
will
say
it
was
too
late
that
the
decision
was
already
made
and
so
we're
talking
about
place
for
people
to
be
not
just
for
housing
but
for
businesses,
entrepreneurs,
cooperatives,
economic
development
opportunities.
So
what
ways
are
we
planning
with
community.
R
R
We
were
able
to
notate
in
the
presentation
that
this
purchase
of
this
land
at
65
ford
street
will
be
kicking
off
shortly
very
soon,
a
up
to
a
year
community
engagement
process
about
some
of
the
things
that
you're
talking
about
that
also
follow
the
purpose-built
model.
So
that's
the
the
intent
there
is
to
within
the
next
few
months,
reach
out
and
have
those
community
meetings
for
up
to
a
year
process
of
community.
A
B
A
T
Good
evening
last
week,
vice
mayor
smith
offered
a
poignant
reflection
on
this
deal,
pointing
to
the
fact
that
the
1.6
million
the
city
plans
to
spend
here
are
profits
from
urban
renewal
from
taking
land
away
from
black
people.
She
wondered
if
there
wasn't
some
way
to
spend
that
money
that
could
restore
but
had
been
lost.
T
Now
I
I
get
what
the
city
is
trying
to
do
here,
trying
to
improve
the
conditions
for
folks
in
public
housing.
I
get
that
there
are
many
factors
outside
the
city's
control,
like
hud's,
strict
policy
constraints.
I
get
that
the
city
thinks
this
plan
is
the
best
one
available
right
now
and
it's
the
best
we
can
do,
and
I
get
that
it's
likely
to
pass
as
a
result.
T
So
if,
if
that
kind
of
solution
is
impossible
here,
when
do
we
get
started
on
solutions
that
will
offer
that
kind
of
remedy?
When,
when
does
the
restoration
of
what's
been
lost,
truly
begin?
When
are
the
black
people
in
this
town
who
were
stripped
of
ownership
of
belonging
of
place
by
earlier
city
councils,
going
to
see
some
true
evidence
of
reparation
now?
What
would
that
kind
of
evidence
look
like?
I
think
it
starts
with
vice
mayor,
smith's
important
question:
what
was
lost?
T
T
U
Good
afternoon
everyone
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
ma'am,
we
can
oh
excellent,
I'm
still
getting
used
to
all
this
zoom
for
fiber,
but
good
afternoon.
Everyone
we
first
want
to
thank
god
for
this
opportunity
to
be
here,
as
we
all
come
through
are
still
coming
through
one
of
the
worst
pandemics
ever
in
our
nation,
and
my
name
is
francina:
tate
holreck,
I'm
the
founder
and
chair
of
the
board
for
the
coach,
tate
national
educational,
athletic
association
corporation,
which
is
also
known
as
the
coach
tape
foundation.
U
U
One
of
our
newest
board
members,
mr
jason
reicher
bowers,
he's
a
coldwell
bank
realty
born
and
raised
in
buncombe
county
and
he's
identified,
and
we've
made
site
visits
to
different
properties
over
the
last
couple
weeks
in
asheville.
That
we
believe
would
give
us
a
meaningful
impact
start
in
the
community
development
that
we
all
long
to
see
and
hell
a
part
of,
and
the
first
part
is
the
opportunity
zones
he's
identified
at
least
five
lots.
U
I
don't
have
them
right
before
me
right
now,
but
at
least
five
lots
that
appear
to
work
for
some
of
the
community
redevelopment
and
restoration
that
we
have
planned
and
number
two
is
there's
an
opportunity
for
us
to
acquire
solid
income
producing
property
over
there
in
historic
market,
and
we
were
able
to
meet
the
owners
there
and
take
a
tour
of
the
property
and
verify
the
income
and
then
number
three
is
a
church
property
for
sale.
There's
I
think
several
there
off
of
haywood
road
is
to
acquire
we're.
U
Looking
at
as
an
organization
there
for
our
ministry
and
number
four,
we
took
a
look
at
property
down
there
at
the
river
arts
market.
There's
several
lots
down
there.
That's
setting
up
our
manufacturing,
woodworking
and
design
facilities
where
we
produce
products
for
the
market
and,
of
course,
creating
jobs
and
number
five.
The
larger
acreage
is
we're
looking
at
property
over
there
on
highway
26.
A
I
This
is
linda
wool
from
candler.
Thank
you
for
everything
you're
doing,
first
and
foremost,
and
I
understand
the
time
sensitiveness
of
what
you
need
to
do
in
order
to
keep
qualifying
for
the
hud
funding,
and
I
get
it.
I'm
disappointed
that
we
had
to
get
down
to
the
wire
on
something
like
this,
without
a
lot
of
really
solid
planning
about
how
this
addresses
reparations.
I
So
I'm
glad
to
hear
about
some
of
the
things
that
you're
that
you
talked
about
in
the
powerpoint,
and
I
just
wonder
if,
according
according
to
hud
rules,
my
question
is:
how
are
you
going
to
do?
You
have
to
present
a
plan
along
with
the
purchase
of
that
land?
Does
there
have
to
be
a
formal
plan
presented
to
hud
in
order
to
keep
qualifying
for
the
timeliness,
the
measure
that
you
have
to
stand
up
to,
and
I
can't
talk
anyway.
I
I
I
I
That's
that's
a
bummer,
but
it's
really
important
to
understand
that.
So
if
we
are
looking
to
connect
what
was
lost
through
urban
renewal
with
ways
to
reverse
those
losses,
how
can
we
do
it?
What
money
is
available
for
reparations
and
if
it's
not
a
one-to-one
relationship,
in
other
words,
that
money
gotten
from
the
african-american
communities,
loss
of
ownership
of
land
and
businesses
and
homes
cannot
go
directly
into
reparation
funds?
I
I
I
Hi
council,
thank
you
for
your
enduring
this
very
long
day
that
you're
going
through
today.
I
want
to
start
by
just
offering
a
little
bit
of
confusion.
You
know
one
of
the
challenges
that
we're
even
having
this
conversation,
you
know
put
a
lot
of
public
comment
around
the
fact
that
this
is
urban
renewal
land,
and
I
appreciate
vice
mayor
smith
and
councilwoman
mosley
kind
of
seen,
if
there's
a
way
that
we
could
have
some
more
time.
I
So
to
hear
in
this
meeting,
it
clarified
that
it's
not
for
that.
It
is
sending
mixed
messages.
I'm
also
wondering-
and
I
don't
know
where
to
address
this-
but
you
know
I'm
hearing
from
the
presentation
that
there
was
four
months
that
staff
has
been
working
on,
trying
to
figure
out
what
to
do
with
this.
I
And
I
guess
I'm
thinking
back
to
the
proposal
that
was
just
presented
about
the
united
for
youth
in
the
statement
about
having
a
really
strong
goal
that
we're
building
together
and
y'all
as
a
council
made
a
historic
move
of
starting
a
reparations
fund.
The
last
council
meeting
and
the
one
before,
and
so
what
is
the
vision?
And
we
appreciate
the
presentations
about
like
the
vision
for
reparations
committee.
I
But
what
is
the
vision
for
creating
the
reparations
fund
and
how
are
staff
being
informed
for
land
sale
and
land
acquisition,
because
we
also
know
that
the
ashland
property,
the
haywood
street
congregations,
did
not
know
that
that
was
urban
renewal
land
until
deep
deep
into
the
conversations
with
the
city?
And
here
we
are
that
it's
not
clear.
You
know
to
what
extent
was
this
last
four
months
spent
trying
to
understand
how
to
deeply
attend
to
this
land
in
a
way
that
moves
towards
actual
reparations
and
there's?
I
How
can
you
really
ensure,
before
you
vote
on
this,
that
money
is
going
to
be
used
towards
like
home
ownership
or
towards
things
that
is
actually
going
to
generate
wealth,
going
to
generate
generational
wealth
and
not
just
be
kind
of
a
pat
on
the
back?
This
is
a
nice
good
thing
that
we're
going
to
do
that
might
be
helpful,
but
does
not
give
any
economic
power.
Thank
you.
Q
Okay,
I
don't
know
much
about
the
diva
view
situation,
but
I
would
have
to
imagine
it's
kind
of
hard
for
city
council
to
make
a
decision
on
this.
When
you
haven't
even
resorted
to
listening
the
racial
justice
coalition,
you
haven't
turned
to
equity
and
inclusion
to
get
what
the
people
that
live.
There
are
saying
about
this,
and,
if
you're
going
to
do
it
or
you're
going
to
build
somewhere
else
for
them
to
live
temporarily,
then
they
move
back
to
their
homes.
Q
So
I'm
thinking
this
idea
that
y'all
trying
to
come
up
with
is
gonna
result
in
the
same
situation
as
mountainside
apartments,
which
now
I
don't
think
nobody
that
receives
public
assistance
lives
over
there
and
like
lee
walker
heights,
which
should
have
actually
been
claimed
as
a
historical
site.
Kind
of
like
the
waianae
center
should
be
claimed
as
a
historical
site.
Q
So
I
think
really
the
decisions
on
these
reviews
should
be
held
back
until
you
finalize
reparations,
and
when
you
finalize
reparations,
then
you
can
figure
out
if
you
want
to
add
a
hotel
which
is
going
to
be
no.
So
if
you
can
finalize
reparations,
then
we
can
move
on
with
how
we're
going
to
treat
black
asheville.
That's
actually
kind
of
not
left
here.
We
don't
really
have
a
black
astral
lift,
but
thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
A
That
is
the
last
caller
that
we
have
signed
up
to
speak
under
this
caring
item.
So
I'm
going
to
close
the
public
hearing
council
we
we
are
going
to
need
to
vote
to
move
to.
You
know
we
have
how
we
go
through
this
process
of
recessing
it
until
the
next
meeting,
where
we
will
actually
vote
on
the
substance
of
this
matter
before
we
do
that.
Are
there
any
questions
or
comments
we
will
be.
We
as
a
council
will
obviously
be
able
to
discuss
this
again
at
the
next
meeting.
D
L
Well,
first
of
all,
I
would
like
to
say
that
I
think
the
whole
purpose,
through
the
neighborhood
concept
that
we're
actually
putting
together
for
the
possibility
for
the
diva
view
area.
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
great
it's
the
only
we
can
actually
control,
okay,
close
to
60
acres
of
land
for
the
black
community.
L
That's
close
to
downtown,
and
this-
and
I
don't
know
anywhere
in
asheville-
will
be
able
to
do
this
and
the
one
thing
about
the
diva
view:
project
not
really
sure
exact
the
particulars,
but
the
whole
reasoning
behind
it
is
to
have
a
plan
unit
neighborhood
that
basically
encompasses
encompasses
town,
homes,
condos
and
basically
at
affordable
prices
for
the
community.
So
we
can
actually
have
a
area
of
a
black,
thriving
black
community
that
has
child
care
services,
all
kinds
of
businesses,
black
businesses
or
whatever.
That
is
the
whole
concept
behind
this.
L
So
and
as
far
as
diva
view,
I
think
the
purpose
and
diva
view
was
we'd,
be
able
to
actually
not
have
to
relocate
those
people
just
send
them
anywhere.
We'd
actually
be
able
to
start
building
and
relocate
those
people
into
the
newer
buildings
and
then
maybe
going
back,
and
I
hear
that
the
view
itself
needs
to
be
torn
down
and
rebuilt.
So
basically,
the
whole
concept
behind
it,
like
I
said,
is
basically
to
provide
a
community
for
the
black
community
for
the
blacks
to
be
able
to
thrive.
L
And
for
that
reason
I
I
think
it's
a
wonderful
idea.
It's
a
great
concept,
and
I
really
think
that,
like
you
said,
we
can
hold
us
all
accountable
and
have
different
meetings
to
sort
of
keep
you
informed,
but
that's
the
basics
of
it
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
actually
seeing
this
come
about.
Thank
you.
D
D
Okay
and
then
we
said
earlier,
I
believe
you
said
that
originally
we
expected
to
use
one
and
a
half
million
of
the
three
million
reserve
for
land
banking
to
purchase
this
land,
and
this
is
a
timeliness
issue.
But
this
could
this
council
could
at
a
later
date,
come
back
and
say:
okay?
Well,
what
if
we
pull
one
and
a
half
million
from
the
original
land
banking
plan
and
put
it
back
into
community
programming
right?
D
A
A
E
A
And
vice
mayor
smith,
hi.
Okay,
thank
you
all
right
again,
we
will
be
actually
voting
on
that
item
at
the
next
meeting.
All
right
now
to
our
unfinished
business
portion
of
our
agenda.
We
have
four
items
of
unfinished
business
tonight
and
again
these
are
the
items
that
we
had
a
public
hearing
on
in
our
last
meeting
and
now
we're
going
to
vote
on
them.
A
But
we
don't
take
any
further
public
comment
on
them,
except
we
will
on
item
d2
all
right.
So
the
first
item
is
unfinished
business
item
a
this
is
an
amendment
to
the
unified
development,
ordinance
articles,
five
8,
11
and
12
related
to
discretionary
decisions
in
order
to
bring
the
city's
development
code
into
alignment
with
recent
state
legislation.
A
I
am
not
aware
that
we
have
any
specially
drafted
motions
for
these.
I
have
a
motion
here
and
so
someone
will
chime
in
if
I've
got
the
wrong
motion.
But
I've
got
a
motion
here.
Can
I
get
a
motion
and
a
second
to
adopt
an
amendment
to
unified
development,
ordinance
articles,
5,
8,
11
and
12
related
to
discretionary
decisions
in
order
to
bring
the
city's
development
code
into
alignment
with
recent
state
legislation.
G
A
F
A
G
A
M
A
A
A
Go
second,
okay:
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
councilwoman
roni
hi
councilwoman
turner,
hi
councilwoman,
whistler
aye
vice
mayor
smith.
I
myself,
I
councilwoman
kilgore
hi
councilwoman
mosley
hi.
Thank
you.
Okay.
Can
I
get
a
motion
in
a
second
to
approve
the
approving
resolution
for
the
2021
special
obligation
refunding
bonds
boy?
That
sounds
a
lot
like
the
last
motion
I
just
said,
but
somehow
it
must
be
subtly
different.
A
E
A
B
E
A
First,
we
will
have
a
presentation
of
information
on
the
vance
monument
in
response
to
the
council,
request
and
general
discussion
of
the
same,
because
this
item
is
only
information
presented
at
council's
request.
There's
no
public
comment.
There's
no
vote
associated
with
this
and
we're
going
to
hear.
W
W
X
X
We
went
and
sought
information
related
to
the
demolition
site,
restoration
as
as
an
interim
option,
and
then
the
visioning
work
for
the
future
of
this
site,
we'll
go
through
those
and
provincial
present
the
information
that
has
been
collected
on
that
and
but
next
slide.
Please.
I
just
wanted
to
start
out
with
the
idea
that,
basically,
what
we
see
on
the
biltmore
avenue
every
day
is
the
current
conditions
of
of
the
monument
and
then
next
slide.
Please
and
then
what
we
have
scoped
in
order
to
collect
information.
X
So
we
we
had
to
go
through
a
information
collection
process
which
was
essentially
a
bid.
It
required
us
to
put
together
a
scope
in
order
to
know
what
the
cost
of
the
removal
of
the
monument
would
be
and-
and
we
also
at
that
in
the
development
of
that
scope,
we
made
a
conscious
decision
to
pull
the
the
landscape
restoration
out
in
order
to
provide
us
with
the
best
opportunity
for
for
inclusive
business
outreach
on
the
left
side
of
the
of
the
slide.
X
Here
you
see
the
highlighted
sections
of
the
monument
all
of
those
that
are
highlighted
from
the
green,
yellow
and
the
red
would
are
being
scoped
to
to
be
removed.
If
and
that's
that's,
the
information
was
collected
on
that
that
scope
of
of
removal
now
on
the
right,
you'll
see
the
disturbed
area.
If,
if
this
were
to
be
authorized,
we
would
have
this
whole
area
security
fence
around
the
area
where
the
green
would
represent
an
area
of
work
and
then
the
what
the
yellow
would
be
a
staging
and
and.
X
Yard
for
the
removal
of
the
of
the
monument
next
slide.
Please,
as
I
said,
we
took
the
we
separated
the
landscape
restoration,
knowing
that
that
was
again
an
opportunity
to
to
really
do
some
specific
inclusive
outreach.
The
on
on
the
left
side,
you
see
the
actual
design
that
was
used
to
bid
the
project
an
indication
of
what
the
materials
would
be
up
on
on
the
on
the
very
top
left,
it's
very
small,
but
on
the
right,
you
see
that
they
it's
it's
not
actually
what's
designed
here
or
this.
X
This
rendering
was
put
together,
but
it
just
is
included
to
kind
of
give
an
indication
of
of
what
would
be
anticipated.
That
would
go
in
in
place
of
where
the
monument
stands
right.
Now
we
yeah
as
this
interim
step,
we
would
only
we've
only
requested
pricing
for
the
landscape
restoration
in
again
that
area
where
the
monument
is
is
existing
next
slide,
please.
X
X
So
the
visioning
aspect
of
this
would
be
so.
Those
two
projects
would
would
happen
one
after
the
other.
The
visioning
aspect
of
this
would
then
take
place
from
spring
to
the
fall
of
this
2021,
and
essentially,
what
that
is
proposed
to
do
is.
We
would
issue
an
rfp
be
very
diligent
about
the
inclusive,
outreach
and
selection
associated
with
with
that
effort,
but
essentially,
what
this
that
that
portion
of
the
project
would
do
would
be
designed
to
engage
the
community.
X
X
W
W
X
Contributions
to
the
effort,
the
the
funding
operating
funds,
I
have
been
identified
for
that
and
then
just
to
touch
a
little
bit
on
how
the
minority
business
participation
has
been
undertaken
up
to
this
point
in
time
and
envisioned
in
the
future.
We
followed
the
asheville
business
inclusion
policy
for
the
demolition
contract
that
that
contractor
is
planning
to
self-perform
the
work.
X
But
again
that
was
part
of
the
benefit
and
part
of
the
decision
to
take
that
landscaping
work
out,
because
we
knew
we
could
be
we
could.
We
could
provide
more
outreach
as
from
from
our
offices.
With
regard
to
that
landscape
restoration,
I
did
want
to
point
out
error
in
the
staff
report.
It
we
calculated
that
when
I
was
putting
this
get
this
slide
together,
I
noticed
that
it
had
been
a
miscalculation
in
what
was
the
amount,
the
amount
of
minority
business
participation
it's.
X
W
X
Is
18.3
and
then
again
with
the
rfp
development
and
the
the
request
for
the
proposals,
rfp
request
for
proposals
for
the
visioning,
there
would
be
inclusive
outreach
there
with
a
focus
on
providing.
You
know,
companies
that
have
provided
this
community
visioning
and
outreach
in
the
past
next
slide
again,
just
a
real,
quick
summary:
the
demolition
site
review.
X
X
The
time
frame
for
the
visioning
work
would
be
spring
to
through
the
fall
and
then
again,
I
I
at
the
outcome
and
the
deliverable
of
that
work
would
be
bringing
a
report
back
to
council
in
the
winter,
which
would
be
information
to
act
upon
with
regard
to
budget
development
and
furthering
the
the
site
work
so
and
that
that's
the
next
slide.
I
think
it's
questions
and
discussion
at
this
point.
L
Hey:
okay,
how
are
you
jay?
Okay.
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
report.
Question
I
was
reading
the
it
says.
Advanced
monument
has
become
a
public
safety
threat
in
our
community.
That's
the
first
statement
and
then
the
second
one
is
on
numerous
occasions.
The
monument
has
been
demolized
vandalized
and
the
city
has
received
significant
threats
that
members
of
the
public
will
attempt
to
topple
the
structure.
L
L
Okay,
so
that
to
me,
first
of
all,
just
sort
of
just
doesn't
make
sense
and
it
sort
of
insults
my
intelligence,
you
know
what
I
mean,
and
so
so,
and
the
public
safety
that
I
see
with
this
issue
is
that
we,
the
thing
is,
you
know,
what's
going
on
in
this
whole
country
in
this
nation,
all
the
unrest,
all
the
civil
unrest,
the
race,
the
racist
issues,
we're
looking
at
every
week.
Every
day
people
are
being
killed
because
of
all
the
this
racist.
L
In
night
in
the
early
1970s
I
went
to
work
at
sis
roebuck
and
sears
right
out
there
on
tunnel
road
and
what
happened
at
that
time.
Blacks
were
not
allowed
to
work
in
cosmetics
or
jury.
We
were
only
put
in
places
like
hardware
automotives
and
I
was
a
rover,
so
I
went
into
work
one
day
and
they
couldn't
find
anywhere
to
put
me
but
the
jury
department,
not
the
journey,
I'm
sorry
the
cosmetic
department
they
didn't
want
to
put
me
there.
I
sat
there
and
waited.
L
Finally,
the
lady
came
and
said
I
need
somebody
and
they
finally
put
me
there
when
they
put
me
there,
then
all
of
a
sudden,
then
a
lady
in
the
store
start
going
telling
people
that
I
steal
and
all
kinds
of
stuff,
not
knowing
anything
about
me
well
anyway,
make
a
long
story
short.
I
was
able
to
bring
the
eeoc
into
sears,
they
came
in
they
investigated
and
because
the
program
was
active
at
that
time,
then
what
did
they
do?
They
ended
up
more
or
less
giving
me
the
opportunity
to
fire.
L
Okay,
so
and
I'm
saying
and
then
the
same
thing
happened
to
me
in
the
late
in
the
70s
when
I
got
with
the
airline,
but
when
I
went
to
the
eeoc
they
said,
I'm
sorry,
ms
kilgore,
we
don't
have
the
funds
to
fight
your
case,
but
you
have
a
case.
What
I'm
trying
to
tell
you
is
this:
unless
we
start
working
on
healing
working
together,
uniting
the
community,
all
the
programs
that
we're
doing
are
just
going
to
be
futile
and
and
and
that's
what
I
am
concerned
about,
because
we
now
have
an
opportunity.
L
You
know
the
people
who
have
not
have
opportunity
with
everybody
engaging
in
equity
and
inclusion
working
together
and
doing
all
this
everybody's
coming
to
the
table,
and
it's
going
to
take
a
lot
of
people
coming
to
the
table.
So
why
would
we
take
a
chance
and
alienate
a
large
population
out
there
who
have
already
expressed
all
kinds
of
resentment
about
a
stone?
L
Oh
bless,
which
basically
does
not
even
represent
what
people
are
saying
and-
and
you
know
what
really
gets
me
is
some
of
these
comments
that
come
from
people
that
show
that
they
do
not
understand
the
black
plate
or
the
black
people,
because
when
these
people
write,
I
am
so
upset.
You
know,
black
people
are
hurt,
hurting
they're
in
pain,
and
it
hurts
me
every
time.
I
hear
that
because
I'm
not
in
pain,
the
people
I
know,
are
not
in
pain.
L
What
else
me,
when
I
see
the
black
males
having
to
go
in
the
street
and
fight
and
and
kill
each
other
on
drugs
and
things
like
that,
just
to
make
a
living
to
eat
gotta
leave
living
to
take
care
of
their
families?
What
hurts
me
is
the
health
care
system
that
does
not
apply,
give
the
kind
of
health
care
that
we
need.
What
hurts
me
is
to
see
the
homeless
and
see
people
living
in
the
streets,
blacks
because
they
cannot
afford
to
get
decent
jobs
or
given
a
chance.
That's
what
hurts
me
so.
L
L
As
far
as
I'm
concerned
there,
you
know
basically
with
these
abundance
of
whatever
this
is.
An
oblast.
Obelisk
is
basically
13
000
over
13
000
years
old.
This
oh
bless,
obelisk
obelisk
was
named
after
confederate,
but
it
does
not
represent
a
confederate
all
over
the
world.
Are
we
going
to
teach
our
kids
that
once
they
go
around
the
world
and
they
travel
and
they
see
these
statues?
These
are
bliss,
simple,
not
plain,
and
the
overlapping,
then
they're
going
to
say.
L
Oh,
that's
a
racist
confederate
monument
go
into
some
other
country
and
tell
them
that
you
know
we
cannot
sort
of
teach.
Not
we
got
to
teach
our
kids,
the
truth
tell
them
the
truth.
I
don't
want
my
kids
being
thinking
that
they're
weak,
that
they're
so
weak
that
they
can't
stand
to
see
a
statue
that
just
destroys
them.
That's
not
true.
Black
people
are
not
weak,
our
children
are
not
weak
and
we
cannot
continue
to
perpetuate
these
narratives
for
our
children.
A
I
appreciate
you
making
those
comments
and
I
I'm
just
and
jade
your
title
now
with
the
city,
I
believe,
is
remind
me
capital
projects,
director
projects,
so
jade
is,
you
know
tasked
with
figuring
out
the
you
know,
the
logistics
and
the
costs
so,
but
our
city
attorney
has
has
assisted
us
soon
with
the
the
wording
that
that
that
I
think
that
triggered
some
of
what
you
were
talking
about.
So
is
there
anyone
else
who
has
any
questions
or
comments
or
jade?
A
A
A
Okay,
I'm
just
it
doesn't
look
like
it,
so
all
right
so
folks
we,
this
is
the
the
night
where
we're
actually
have
before
us
the
opportunity
to
vote
on
the
issue
of
whether
to
remove
the
vance
monument
we
have.
It
seems
like
considered
this
issue
a
few
times
before
so
technically
speaking
at
the
last
time
we
considered
this
before
city
council.
It
was
to
receive
or
accept
the
recommendation
from
the
city
county
task
force.
That
was
tasked
with
considering
the
issue
of
the
removal
of
the
vance
monument.
A
A
Of
authorizing
the
city
manager
to
enter
into
a
contract,
to
remove
and
temporarily
replace
the
monument
until
until
we
can
engage
in
a
full
process
of
visioning
around
the
replacement
for
for
the
vance
monument
in
the
event
that
we
vote
to
remove
it.
This
is
this
is
a
difficult
decision.
I
you
know
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
us
have
lived
in
asheville,
either
all
our
life
or
most
of
our
lives
and
the
vance
monument
is
very
much
the
centerpiece
of
the
city
it
is
featured
on
postcards
it
is.
A
It
is
iconic
in
its
correlation
with
our
city,
I've
struggled
with
this
decision.
You
know
a
lot
of
folks
write
to
us
and
say
well.
I
understand
why
you
wouldn't
want
to
honor
the
former
governor
governor
vance,
but
maybe
you
can
just
repurpose
the
monument
and
just
to
remind
folks
who
are
watching
this.
The
task
force
did
consider
whether
or
not
repurposing
the
monument
would
be
appropriate,
but
they
they
did
not
make
that
recommendation.
A
They
actually
made
a
recommendation
to
see
the
vance
monument
removed
and
that
that
recommendation
was
made,
as
you
know
to
us.
You
know
for
for
me
personally,
I
I've
come
to
believe
that
the
vance
monument
no
longer
reflects
well.
It
probably
never
reflected
the
values
of
our
community
and
now
that
we're
learning
how
to
better,
understand
and
hear
one
another
and
understand
the
values
of
our
entire
community.
I
don't
see
the
vance
monument
as
reflective
of
our
community.
A
A
A
lot
of
communities
are
re,
imagining
their
downtown
spaces,
their
public
spaces,
and
these
changes
are
well
received,
and
I
think
it's
high
time
that
we
consider
it
for
ourselves
here
in
asheville.
I
I
am
looking
forward
to
a
day
that
we
have
a
centerpiece
in
our
city
that
reflects
our
asheville
today
and
I'm
proud
to
be
part
of
a
council
that
will
make
this
change.
L
So
so
it's
hard
for
me
to
believe
that
it
does
not
reflect
the
vision
of
asheville
and
and
and
basically
with
this
particular
monument.
A
lot
of
the
monuments
that
have
been
removed
have
been
basically
monuments
of
or
statues
of
men
or
the
monuments
that
have
actually
had
basically
bar
relief,
tight
structures
or
statues
attached
to
them
in
some
way,
but
very
seldom
have
you
seen
just
a
simple
obelisk,
that's
been
destroyed,
and-
and
so
I
I
think
that
everybody
it's
a
local
thing.
L
I
think
everybody
has
to
decide
in
their
community
what
needs
to
be
removed.
What
what
does
not
and
and
basically
as
far
as
the
statues
of
robert
e
lee,
and
all
that
hey
I'm
for
all
that
stuff,
going
of
course,
because
it's
actually
statues,
but
I'm
just
saying
we
as
an
artistic
city,
a
historic
city,
should
be
able
to
sort
of
embrace
that
historic
value
and
basically
bring
the
community
together,
because,
basically,
what
is
going
on
now,
I'm
what
I'm
upset
too
with
the
process.
I
think
that
the
process
was
not
vetted
correctly.
L
I
think
that
when
you
give
orders
to
a
task
force
that
you
basically
assemble
and
say,
basically
we
want
people
on
this
committee,
that's
negatively
impacted
or
affected
by
this.
It's
almost
like
seeing
a
gentleman,
that's
what
is
what
is
the
word
he's
being
tried
for
rape
and
you
say:
hey
for
the
people
on
the
jury.
We
want
people,
that's
been
victims
of
rape
to
be
on
this
jury;
in
other
words,
it
sort
of
dictate
the
outcome,
and
I
feel
that
the
community
itself
was
not
given
a
time
to
actually
participate.
L
This
something
this
big
you
know
should
have
been
actually
presented
to
the
community
and
and
and
basically
the
way.
I
look
at
our
position
here
when
we
basically
were
elected.
We
were
elected
for
all
people
to
represent
what
was
best
for
all
people,
so
we
need
to
hear
from
all
people
in
order
to
bring
about
that
harmony
in
the
community
that
we
so
desire
that
we
so
push
for
the
harmony
and
the
transparency
that
we
talk
about
all
the
time.
K
Okay,
so
holding
accountability
for
my
ancestors
and
recognizing
my
own
privilege,
I'm
honoring
requests
I've
heard
in
this
moment
to
lift
up
the
wisdom
and
understanding
and
the
experiences
of
neighbors,
often
unheard
unanswered
or
excluded
from
decision
making.
I
appreciate
the
recommendation
and
the
work
of
the
vance
monument
task
force.
I
remember
during
the
uprising
last
summer
the
voices
of
black
youth
and
their
families
crying
out
in
the
streets
of
asheville
to
urgently
dismantle
the
symbols
and
systems
of
white
supremacy.
A
S
A
T
Was
this
monument
constructed
in
order
to
intimidate
your
ancestors
to
communicate
to
them
that
they
were
perpetual
second-class
citizens
and
to
warn
them
that
they
could
be
killed
if
they
tried
to
assert?
Otherwise,
if
it
was,
I
think
your
opinion
on
what
should
happen
with
this
monument
is
absolutely
essential
at
this
moment
and
if
it
wasn't,
if
this
monument
was
not
built
to
intimidate
you
or
your
ancestors,
then
I
would
suggest
that
your
opinion
isn't
as
imperative
to
this
discussion.
T
V
AA
AA
City
manager
example
will
most
likely
choose
one
or
more
out-of-town
consultants
who
will
who,
with
city
hall
and
others,
will
shape
the
questions
and
solutions
before
most
of
us
share
and
that's
partly
about
being
elected
or
appointed
to
public
office.
I
have
the
concept
for
what
I
think
is
a
timely,
beautiful,
relevant
version
of
asheville
patriotism.
AA
It's
a
public
art
installation
that
goes
in
a
spot
that
is
now
called
pack
square
park.
I've
written
a
commentary
about
this
unity.
Future
solution.
I
mentioned
in
the
commentary
that
a
more
detailed
plan
is
on
the
way
I
mentioned
renaming
the
pac
square
street
and
pax
square
park,
rename
the
street
and
pax
square
park.
AA
We
can
assume
that
a
monument
to
asheville's
african-americans
will
go
there.
I
have
no
problem
with
that.
If
that's
part
of
the
vision
document,
I
welcome
seeing
what
comes
forward.
I
will
be
in
contact
with
the
coa
public
arts
and
culture
commission
about
developing
a
unity
future
program
management
plan,
a
vision,
a
vision
document
process
is
great,
but
that's
just
one
way
to
do
this.
If
there's
any
deflection,
delay,
disrespect
or
dismissal
about
working
with
me
I'll
ask
for
meeting
with
the
city
attorney
the
mayor
city
manager
and
relevant
liaisons
about
my
first
amendment
rights.
AA
Z
Z
AB
AC
B
J
Okay,
good
evening
city
council,
I'm
commenting
to
express
my
support
for
the
swift
removal
of
the
vance
monument.
Last
year.
The
vance
monument
task
force
appointed
by
the
city
and
county
voted
to
recommend
taking
down
the
monument
on
march
18.
The
city's
human
relations
commission
voted
to
also
recommend
the
monument's
removal.
J
Racial
justice
activists
have
called
for
the
removal
of
the
vance
monument
for
years
now
in
asheville.
The
racial
justice
coalition
and
black
asheville
demands
have
also
been
calling
for
removal
per
the
the
city's
30
60
90
day
plan.
The
goal
of
advancing
racial
equity
in
asheville,
and
I
quote,
the
city
of
asheville-
is
committed
to
working
towards
social
justice
and
creating
a
city
where
every
resident
feels
included
and
heard
by
elected
officials
and
staff.
J
J
F
F
F
AA
AA
AA
And
that
way
you
can
start
down
here
here
it
comes
here.
It
comes
hang
on
god.
My
name
is
grant
millen,
and
I
am
a
long
time.
Asheville
resident
hi,
mayor,
mannheimer,
council
and
city
manager
campbell
I'm
developing
an
initiative
called
unity
future
which
may
or
may
not
apply
here.
It's
okay,
either
way
because
we've
got
a
state
nation
in
glen
with
challenges.
AA
I
have
the
concept
for
what
I
think
is
a
timely,
beautiful,
relevant
version
of
asheville
patriotism.
It's
a
park,
public
art
installation
that
goes
in
a
spot
in
what
is
now
called
pax
square
park.
I
have
written
a
commentary
about
this
unity,
future
solution
and
by
no
means
is
simply
about
monuments.
AA
We
can
assume
that
a
monument
to
nashville's
african-americans
will
go
there.
I
have
no
problem
with
that.
If
that's
part
of
the
vision
document-
and
I
welcome
seeing
what
comes
forward,
I
will
be
in
contact
with
coa
public
arts
and
culture
commission
about
developing
a
uni
unity,
future
program
management
plan.
A
vision
document
process
is
great,
but
that's
just
one
way
to
do
this.
AA
If
there
is
any
deflection,
delay,
disrespect
or
dismissal
without
working
with
me,
I
will
ask
for
a
meeting
with
the
city
attorney
the
mayor
city
manager
and
relevant
liaisons
about
my
first
amendment
rights.
I'm
happy
to
be
polite
in
all
this.
It's
just
that
all
voices
need
to
be
included,
including
divergent,
but
appropriate
uses
of
the
first
amendment.
I
K
I
I
I
think
that
the
consensus
is
that
yes,
the
vance
monument
is
a
piece
of
our
history.
No
doubt,
however,
as
we
all
know,
life
goes
on.
The
world
goes
on.
We
are
given
an
opportunity
every
day
to
build
something
new
and
something
better.
No,
no
doubt
we
will
make
mistakes,
we
will
make
misjudgments.
I
We
are
human,
it
is
only
natural.
What
is
not
natural
and
what
is
not.
Okay
is
when
we
make
those
mistakes
and
don't
fix
them.
Once
we
have
been
told
it's
a
mistake,
advance
monument
has
been
up
longer
than
I
have
even
lived
in
asheville
and
I've
never
really
thought
twice
about
it.
Then
again,
I
am
a
white
female.
I
However,
once
I
discovered
what
it
was
about
and
heard
what
it
meant
to
other
folk
black
folk
people
of
color
queer
folk,
I
realized
that
it
was
more
than
just
some
big
thing
in
the
middle
of
downtown
to
tell
your
friends
where
to
meet.
You
would
meet
up
with
you
at.
I
realized
that
it
was
a
monument
to
pain
and
suffering.
As
someone
who,
in
my
younger
days,
wore
the
confederate
flag,
it
was
the
same
understanding.
I
didn't
understand
it
and
when
I
was
told
by
someone
who
did
understand
it,
who
said
it's?
I
Okay,
that
you
will
never
understand,
but
this
is
what
it
means
to
me.
I
said:
okay
and
I
made
the
change.
What
asheville
is
asking
is
that
you
guys
hear
us
and
say:
okay,
we
need
to
change
it's
okay,
to
make
mistakes,
just
don't
stick
in
it,
don't
stick
with
it!
Keep
moving
forward
we're
here
with
you
guys.
I
So
that's
all
I'm
calling
today
to
remind
you
is
black:
asheville
has
spoken,
they
have
been
speaking.
White
asheville
is
speaking
with
them.
Please
listen
to
them
and
remove
this
monument
to
hate
and
anger,
and
all
of
the
things
in
our
past
that
we
have
evolved
past
the
need
for
it's
time
to
grow.
It's
time
to
move
forward,
let's
be
progressive.
AD
AD
Hi,
this
is
steve
rasmussen,
there's
not
a
word
in
this
staff
document
about
how
destroying
the
monument
furthers
our
comprehensive
plan
goal
of
enhanced
creative
play,
place,
making
through
preservation
of
neighborhood
character
and
historic
resources,
or
fits
into
our
historic
preservation,
master
plan
or
our
downtown
master
plan.
Nor
is
there
a
word
about
any
study
of
its
documented
history,
which
shows
that
it
was
built
to
imitate
the
washington
monument
as
a
symbol
of
our
city's
unity
in
diversity.
AD
Just
as
councilwoman
kilgore
is
saying
not
to
honor
the
confederate
cause,
that's
fake
history,
what
monument
to
white
supremacy
would
have
a
copy
of
the
colored
enterprise
newspaper
publicly
placed
into
its
cornerstone
of
its
dedication.
The
only
confederate
parts
about
asheville's
obelisk
are
the
plaques
attached
to
it,
which
can
be
inexpensively
artistically
replaced
speaking
of
his
expense.
I
do
see
that
at
a
time
when
the
city
tells
us,
we
can't
afford
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
an
overwhelmingly
popular
urban
forest
master
plan
that
would
directly
target
the
dangerous
environmental
inequity
in
historically
black
neighborhoods.
AD
We
might
dip
into
our
emergency
reserves
to
pay
some
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
destroy
a
historic
landmark
and
that's
not
counting
the
cost
of
whatever
would
replace
it
if
anything
or
the
lawsuits.
The
city
needs
to
be
anticipating
from
stakeholders
who
funded
the
monument's
recent
restoration,
but
have
been
left
out
of
this
proposal's
hasty
decision-making
process.
AD
No
survey
or
referendum
has
shown
that
demolishing
the
vance
monument
is
popular.
Quite
to
the
contrary,
I
hope
you've
been
reading.
The
scores
of
eloquent
and
heartfelt
letters
and
op-eds
citizens
have
been
writing
into
our
community
newspapers
that
have
been
pleading
with
you
to
repurpose
and
not
tear
down
our
beloved
obelisk.
There's
no
organized
group
pushing
this
spontaneous
mass
response.
AD
This
document
does
cite
the
flimsy,
hypocritical
legal
pretext
of
public
safety,
so
you'd
be
destroying
the
signature
landmark
of
the
city's
most
prominent
free
speech
protest
zone
because
we're
fearful
of
further
free
speech,
protests
that
our
police
are,
by
implication
here,
too,
incompetent
or
poorly
trained
to
keep
from
escalating
into
vandalism
and
violence.
You'd
be
rewarding
threats
of
more
vandalism
and
violence
as
a
way
to
get
demands,
met
and
violence
does
beget
violence.
As
you
all
are
aware.
AD
My
wife,
lady
pascha
and
I
have
even
had
our
lives
threatened
recently
by
a
prominent
advocate
of
destroying
the
monument.
If
we
continue
to
speak
out
for
repurposing
it
and
supporting
councilman
councilwoman
gil
kilgore's
proposal
that
she
published
in
the
mountain
express
for
reclaiming
it,
like
I'm
doing
right
now,
so
please
at
least
vote
to
study
her
proposal
for
reclaiming
this
monument
and
don't
rush
into
this,
because
we
all
are
going
to
regret
it.
Thank
you.
Q
Q
Yes,
I'd
just
like
to
say
that
I
fully
100
percent
agree
with
miss
kilgore
to
me.
The
monument
has
no
face
of
racism,
robert
e
lee
or
any
other
general
114
dollars
to
tear
it
down.
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
black
issues
that
could
be
solved
with
a
hundred
and
fourteen
thousand
dollars.
You
could
actually
add
ten
thousand
dollars
to
the
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
and
have
the
black
company
come
in
and
fully
repurpose
it
and
put
plaques
on
there
that
resemble
black
asheville.
Q
You
don't
have
to
tear
the
whole
thing
down.
It's
it's
not
an
eyesore,
it's
actually
kind
of
beautiful.
I
like
the
washington
monument,
but
I
think
we
need
to
talk
about
the
biltmore
state's
corporate
office
right
beside
the
monument
that
they
bought
their
slaves
from
the
exact
same
spot.
So
why
are
we
not
talking
about
tearing
down
to
build
more
corporate
office?
Build
more
states
bill
moore
park,
the
rambles,
the
racist
places
that
have
been
taken
and
filled
with
privilege,
and
we
get
none
of
it.
Q
How
much
taxes
does
bill
moore
state
pay
to
asheville
to
be
their
own
little
town?
Those
are
the
racist,
systemic
things
that
I'm
thinking
about
when
I
think
about
the
shallow
community
and
the
slaves
and
the
graves
that
was
dug
up
to
move
over
there
for
our
tax
dollars
and
land
to
be
used
by
races,
homes,
races
outlets,
races,
hotels,
that
are
being
built
to
serve
only
one
purpose
and
that's
the
biltmore
state.
It's
not
here
to
serve
the
community.
Q
I
Good
evening,
council,
thank
you.
My
name
is
noelle
nichol
and
I've
lived
in
asheville
for
25
years
as
a
direct
descendant
of
the
vance
family.
I
urge
you
to
vote
to
remove
the
monument
I'm
the
fifth
great
granddaughter
of
colonel
david
vance
senior
and
priscilla
brent
vance.
Their
first
born
child
jane
vance
davidson
was
my
fourth
great
grandmother
and
their
firstborn
son,
david
vince
jr
was
zebulin
vance's
father
the
task
force
engaged
in
a
careful,
thoughtful
and
balanced
process.
I
I
appreciate
that
you
have
heard
from
some
community
members
for
whom
removal
is
not
their
choice.
Perhaps
they
do
not
feel
the
presence
of
the
monument
perpetuates
harm,
or
perhaps
they
are
concerned
about
cost
as
the
descendant
of
those
who
enslaved
others.
I
try
every
day
to
eradicate
racism
from
my
own
heart
as
I
seek
racial
healing.
The
presence
of
the
monument
in
the
center
of
my
city
hurts
me
by
naming
how
I
am
harmed.
I
I
That's
what
it
means
to
be
a
caring
community
committed
to
healing
and
increased
public
safety
for
everyone.
Regarding
costs.
We
are
burdened
by
the
cost
of
systemic
racism,
from
disparities
in
our
criminal
legal
system
to
the
academic
achievement
gap
in
our
schools
each
day
the
monument
remains
as
a
prominent
symbol
of
white
supremacy
culture.
It
exacts
the
cost
that
far
eight
outweighs
the
dollar
amount
projected
for
removal,
and
I
pledge
to
join
others
to
secure
funds
if
needed.
I
Last
night,
I
emailed
each
of
you
a
picture
of
my
first
born
child,
my
daughter,
emily
hocksma,
facing
this
symbol
of
our
family's
racist
legacy.
I
took
this
picture
last
june
when
we
marched
alongside
friends
calling
for
racial
justice
in
our
community.
The
advanced
monument
is
a
symbol
of
what
we
marched
against
and
until
it
is
removed,
it
will
remain
an
obstacle
in
our
path
toward
justice,
repair
and
healing.
I
deeply
desire
to
transform
my
family's
legacy
of
enslavement
into
a
future
of
freedom
and
justice.
I
AE
This
excellent
obelisk,
which
of
itself
in
no
manner
represents
racism
but,
on
the
contrary,
is
an
ancient
and
honorable
symbol
and
in
the
present
tense
of
asheville
is
known
as
the
rallying
point
of
free
speech
in
this
city
should
be
redeemed
and
rededicated.
It
should
be
redeemed
by
refacing
it
with
language.
That
leaves
no
doubt
of
the
sorrow
and
horror
done
to
some
people
who
were
forced
into
irredeemable
slavery.
Despite
their
birthright
of
liberty.
AE
This
obelisk
can
be
rededicated
to
the
purpose
of
finding
the
one
and
only
true
race
of
mankind,
which
is
the
human
race.
When
we
fail
discussing
and
trying
to
measure
the
sorrow
and
horror
of
our
african
history,
african-american
history
is
nearly
simultaneous
sauron
horo
of
our
native
american
history.
Removal
of
this
monument
as
an
honor
to
our
african-american
citizens
fails
to
honor
another
people.
Cherokees
were
sent
into
retreat
by
rutherford's
militia
in
1776
and
retrieved.
More
and
more,
as
european
americans
came
into
this
area.
AE
Eventually,
their
forced
removal
was
a
trail
of
tears
and
a
smear
of
history,
but
think
of
this,
some
few
thousand
evaded
and
persisted
in
western
north
carolina
shouldn't.
We
offer
solace
apology,
the
heartfelt
welcome
of
their
survival
and
a
place
added
for
them
on
this
new
obelisk
to
human
race.
So
should
go
our
history.
AE
AE
AF
AF
When
I
heard
you
were
assembling
a
task
force
and
you
directed
that
task
force
to
repurpose
the
monument,
that's
what
I
thought
it
was
going
to
be.
I've
never
heard
of
the
task
force,
giving
one
directive
and
then
the
task
force
deciding
it
was
going
to
go
off
in
another
area.
Now.
I
know
because
I
received
threats
too,
of
some
of
the
threats
that
you
received
and
some
of
the
visits
to
your
house,
because
I
got
the
same
thing
and
I
got
some
property
damage.
AF
So
I
understand
when
folks
try
to
intimidate
you
and
do
you
know
the
threats
that
you're
talking
about
that
is
public
safety?
A
lot
of
that.
If
it's
an
intimidation,
if
that's
the
reason
why
you're
doing
it
and
you're
thinking
that
destroying
a
symbol
is
going
to
bring
meaning
to
our
lives
here
in
asheville,
one
thing
that
I
would
ask
you
is
that
you
give
those
folks
who
want
that
symbol
removed
removal
of
that
symbol.
AF
These
are
the
kinds
of
things
that
we
need
y'all
to
address
rather
than
symbolism,
I'm
an
economics
person
and
for
most
black
folks
in
asheville.
If
they
need
help,
we
got
the
poorest
educational
system,
achievement
gap
in
north
carolina.
We
have
the
lowest
business
formations
rate.
We've
got
a
minority
business
program,
that's
one
of
the
worst
in
the
state
or
in
the
southeast,
with
one
quarter
of
one
percent.
AF
Yet
you
still
pursue
failed
policies,
and
I
just
say
to
you
that
those
of
us
who
are
financially
astute
who
are
african-american,
we
do
not
want
any
part.
This
is
symbolic,
it
means
absolutely
nothing.
So
what
we
would
want
is
the
opportunity
to
work
with
folks
to
develop
economic
development
opportunities,
real,
tangible
opportunities.
So,
as
councilwoman
kilgore
said,
our
men
don't
have
to
go
out
into
the
street
and
get
killed,
selling
dope
or
kill
one
another
rosary,
and
so
our
children
can
have
a
future.
Thank
you
have
a
good
week.
B
I
Good
evening
city,
council,
mayor
and
the
city
manager,
thank
you
so
much
for
allowing
everyone
to
speak
tonight.
I
want
to
say
personally
that
I
know
this
issue
has
really
struck
a
chord
with
a
lot
of
people
and
even
if
I
don't
agree
with
their
perspective,
I
really
appreciate
how
many
people
are
speaking
from
their
heart
about
this,
and
I
can
just
feel
that
coming
through
the
meeting
tonight
that
people
really
care
about
what
we're
discussing.
I
So
I
just
want
to
say
that
I've
been
involved
in
this
process
and
this
conversation
since
the
beginning,
not
in
any
real
active
way,
but
more
just
watching
a
lot
of
the
meetings
that
went
on
in
the
decision-making
process
around
recommending
removal.
I
personally
feel
like
a
lot
of
that.
City
center
has
changed
in
the
20
years.
I've
been
here,
there's
what
it
looked
like
when
I
got
to
asheville
in
1999
is
not
what
the
center
of
downtown
looks
like
now.
I
It
does
hurt
some
people
in
our
community
and
does
represent
something
negative
to
them,
whether
a
bunch
of
other
people
believe
that
to
be
true
or
not
so
yeah.
I
appreciate
how
much
time
has
gone
into
this.
I
appreciate
how
many
strong
feelings
people
have
about
it
if
tonight
the
vote
goes
through
and
I
get
to
see
that
monument
removed
from
downtown.
I
O
Good
evening,
as
I'm
sure
you
can
guess,
I'm
here
to
speak
as
an
abolitionist,
but
I
cannot
do
so
without
acknowledging
the
greater
context
that
marks
this
moment.
Our
communities
are
grieving.
Thank
you
to
the
singular
member
of
this
council
who
actually
showed
up
in
solidarity
with
asheville's
aapi
community.
O
O
We
are
grieving.
The
loss
of
frankie,
who,
just
hours
ago,
was
murdered
by
u.s
marshals
in
charlotte,
guess
what
this
state
violence
is
being
inflicted
by
what
supremacy
do
the
same
is
true
for
all
of
the
pain
and
suffering
that
mr
sandra
kilgore
spoke
to
on
a
day
when
the
violence
of
white
supremacy
is
so
horrifically
on
display.
What
can
we
do
about
it?
What
can
you,
as
a
city
council,
do
about
it?
What
can
you
actually
do
to
resist
the
white
supremacy
that
takes
on
so
many
insidious
forms,
sometimes
so
far
away?
O
Answer:
tear
down
the
very
symbol
of
white
supremacy
that
sits
in
a
place
of
glorification
at
the
center
of
the
city.
To
be
absolutely
clear,
we
see
complete
and
utter
abolition
of
white
supremacy,
but
first
star
just
take
the
racist
phallus
down
for
all
the
skyline
callers
calling
in
who
haven't
taken
the
time
to
learn
about
greek
revival.
Guess
what
it's
no
coincidence,
that
washington's
shock
will
racist
houses
too
and
columns
and
other
greek
architecture
just
like
the
nazis,
constructed
in
blue
to
land?
It's
a
pattern.
It's
a
thing!
O
O
A
A
A
A
V
A
Okay,
that
is
a
vote
of
six
to
one.
We
now
need
to
vote
on
the
budget
piece
of
this.
I
have
in
my
script
here
we're
not
taking
further
public
comment,
but
just
the
budget
piece.
So
can
I
get
a
motion
a
second
to
adopt
a
budget
amendment
in
the
amount
of
seventy
thousand
dollars
from
the
general
fund,
unassigned
fund
balance
for
the
cost
of
comprehensive
community
vision
document.
This
is
looking
towards
the
future
and
planning
the
future
for
this
site.
Do
I
have
a
motion.
A
Okay
and
I'll
do
a
roll
call
vote
myself.
I
councilwoman
kilgore,
no
okay,
councilwoman
mosley,
aye
councilwoman,
roney,
aye,
councilwoman
turner,
aye,
councilwoman,
whistler,
aye
and
vice
mayor
smith,
aye.
Okay,
thank
you
all
right.
Let's
take
a
short
break.
We're
gonna
come
back
and
do
new
business
item,
a
which
is
the
appointment
of
the
school
board,
and
so
it
is
7
20..
Let's
come
back
at
7
30.
Is
that
all
right,
7,
30?
Okay,
all
right
everybody,
7
30,
see.
A
A
A
This
morning
the
council
conducted
the
interviews
of
the
seven
candidates
for
the
board
of
education,
and
I'm
gonna
turn
it
over
to
the
vice
mayor
to
handle
this
portion
of
the
agenda.
I
do
have
in
my
script,
just
some
instructions,
I'll
read
these
real,
quick
and
then
turn
it
over
to
the
vice
mayor
counsel.
A
P
Okay,
you
heard
it
I'll
call
each
out
no
particular
order.
I'm
just
gonna
call
you,
as
I
see
you
on
my
screen,
please
take
your
time
and
give
your
three
nominees
so
that
maggie
has
time
to
tally
each
and
then
after
we
do
a
complete
round
of
everybody's
three,
then
we'll
give
maggie
time
enough
to
give
us
the
totals
and
then
we'll
go
from
there.
P
L
P
P
A
A
P
S
P
A
A
E
E
It
was
really
a
tough
decision
and
it's
a
it's
a
grueling
process
and
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
all
the
people
who
went
through
it
and
for
the
people
who
have
who
have
served
on
our
on
the
school
board
and
all
their
amazing
years
of
service.
I
just
want
to
be
on
record
to
thank
them
all
for
this.
A
AG
AG
AG
Z
V
Hello,
this
is
andrew
james
aka
andre.
This
is
a.
I
am
a
black
male
living
in
north
asheville
and
I
have
a
question
for
city
council.
Do
you
love
black
people?
I'll
be
honest
with
you?
I
don't
think
most
of
you
do,
but
I
do
know
that
none
of
you
loves
black
people.
The
way
you
pretend
to
he
wrapped
black
asheville
in
a
warm
blanket
of
apologies
and
promises,
and
then
you
held
back
money
and
waited
for
a
viral
pandemic
to
kill
us
off.
V
I
only
want
one
thing:
I
want
what
all
black
asheville
wants.
I
want
that
quant.
You
know
I
want
that.
I
want
that
quan
city
council.
I
want
that
say
it
with
me.
Now
say
it
with
me.
Show
me
the
money
show
me
the
money.
You
know.
If
that's
the
love
show
me
the
money,
it's
capitalism,
I
don't
need
a
city
council
monument
brought
down
or
whatever
that's
great,
but
show
me
the
money.
That's
what
matters
show
me.
The
money
stay
with
me
stay
with
me
now.
V
Y
Good
evening,
council
members,
my
name
is
zeno
lancaster
and
I
live
in
downtown
nashville.
I'm
calling
in
hopes
to
bring
awareness
to
how
the
city
has
chosen
to
support
those
in
our
community
that
are
experiencing
homelessness
and
in
hopes
that
both
the
citizens
of
asheville
and
the
council
will
consider
how
to
help
that
community.
Y
When
I,
google,
the
words
asheville
needle
exchange,
the
first
page
that
comes
up
is
the
buncombe
county
site
for
the,
and
I
quote:
harm
reduction
and
needle
safety
in
buckland
county.
I'm
betting,
like
myself,
that
many
citizens
in
nashville
have
very
little
awareness
of
this
program.
When
I
click
on
that
site.
It
takes
me
to
a
page
that
has
the
following
first
sentence
today
in
north
carolina,
you
are
more
likely
to
die
of
an
overdose
than
a
car
crash.
Apparently
that's
the
best
justification
they
have
for
the
harm
reduction
program
currently
in
place.
Y
Are
we
really
comparing
driving
a
car
to
overdosing
on
dangerous,
illegal
and
addictive
drugs?
In
order
to
justify
this
program?
Do
any
of
us
not
understand
that
drugs
are
more
dangerous
than
driving
a
car?
Perhaps
you're
asking?
What
is
this
program?
Harm
reduction
doesn't
sound,
so
bad
right
for
those
citizens
that
don't
know
the
city
allows
a
needle
exchange.
Y
Y
Someone
has
to
pay
for
them.
Many
of
those
folks
experiencing
homelessness
and
addiction,
and
I
guess
this
is
confusing
to
some
of
you-
do
not
have
money
that
can
lead
to
some
desperate
actions.
I
submit
to
you
that
enabling
drug
addiction
also
enables
crime,
violence
and
death.
Why
should
the
good
citizens
of
asheville
pay
for
that?
I
am
confident
there
are
those
among
you
that
know.
This
is
wrong.
Stand
up
against
this.
Y
That
is
disgusting
and
the
people
of
asheville
need
to
know
that
this
is
and
has
been
supported
by
our
council
when
there
are
more
deaths
that
this
program
will
directly
contribute
to
them.
The
addiction,
crime
and
citizens
experiencing
homelessness
living
in
tents
rather
than
housing
will
be
bolstered
by
your
actions.
I'm
not
hiring
someone
who
just
survived
an
overdose
on
your
needles
and
can
do
so
again,
sadly
enabled
by
your
knoxville
giveaways.
Y
I
would
hire
someone
who
has
found
their
footing
through
the
housing
first
model,
which
has
an
amazing
retention
rate,
has
actually
helped
people
homer
bound
is
a
great
example
of
this
program.
Why?
Wouldn't
you
use
your
resources
to
support
them?
Instead,
getting
addicts
off
the
streets
goes
much
further
in
helping
them
than
handing
these
needles
to
keep
them
there.
Y
F
AC
AC
Remember
no
taxation
without
representation,
I
mean
we,
citizens
watch
nationals,
taxes
go
up
and
up
and
up,
and
so
we
pay
and
pay
and
pay,
and
so
now,
when
it's
time
for
national
to
represent
us,
our
as
your
as
our
representatives,
you
say:
no
is
it
because
of
a
legal
opinion.
Remember
the
last
time
when
a
legal
opinion
was
wrong
is
the
opinion
that
they're
only
concerned
in
public
safety,
because
that
is
not
the
language
of
the
statute
that
is
directly
about
individuals,
not
public
safety.
AC
Is
it
because
we
don't
have
a
chance
of
winning?
Well,
we
know
we're
not
going
to
win
we're
not
seeking
to
win
we're
seeking
mitigation
that
will
affect
the
health
and
safety
of
asheville
citizens
as
asheville's
representative
government.
Why
won't
you
represent
asheville
the
health
and
safety
of
national
citizens?
B
AB
AB
As
you
know,
I've
spoken
before
and
I'm
extremely
concerned
about
the
proposed
woodfin
development
of
the
bluffs
at
river
bend
like
galen,
spoke
about
the
safety
of
the
residents
here.
That
will
come
into
my
talk
in
a
little
bit.
Thank
you
to
all
of
you
who
have
come
up
here
to
see
this
neighborhood
in
person.
It
is
a
working-class
neighborhood
with
very
very
narrow
streets
and
limited
access.
AB
It
is
paramount
that
the
bridge
be
required
before
construction
can
begin.
If
a
bridge
is
not
built
across
the
french
broad
river,
then
the
city
of
asheville
will
have
to
pay
for
the
streets,
the
upkeep
of
the
streets
in
the
richmond
hill
neighborhood
that
will
be
destroyed
by
the
five
years
of
heavy
construction
vehicles
and
then
the
potential
10
000
cars
a
day
increase
funneling
out
of
the
development
onto
richmond
hill
drive.
This
is
a
concern
for
me
and
all
of
us
who
live
in
this
neighborhood.
AB
AB
Like
I
said,
richmond
hills
drive
is
a
dead-end
street.
The
many
roads
and
lanes
at
branch
off
are
all
dead,
hidden
streets,
there's
only
one
way
in
and
out
for
the
residents
that
already
live
here.
It
is
also
imperative
for
the
safety
of
all
involved
that
the
bridge
be
required
and
built
before
construction.
When
I
spoke
two
weeks
ago,
I
mentioned
the
recent
tractor
trailer
trucks
that
had
jack
knifed
at
the
harripan
turn
where
richmond
hill
drive
meets
pearson
bridge
road.
AB
Well,
today
I
had
to
rearrange
what
I
was
going
to
say
because,
as
I
left
today
to
go
out
and
do
it
run
errands,
I
followed
fire
truck
number
three
down.
Richmond
hill
drive
where
there
was
once
again
a
tractor-trailer
jackknifed
at
this
same
intersection,
pearson
bridge
road
was
impassable.
Policemen
directed
us
to
go
up
pearson
bridge
to
bingham
road
to
emma
road
to
the
craven
street
bridge
to
riverside
drive.
It
took
15
minutes
to
get
me
back
to
where
I
would
have
been
if
the
tractor
trailer
had
not
jackknifed.
AB
Luckily,
the
fire
truck
was
headed
home
from
the
call
what
if
it
had
been
crossing
the
pearson
bridge,
trying
to
go
up
to
richmond
hill
drive
and
route
to
an
emergency,
it
would
have
been
rerouted
the
same
route
as
me
and
would
have
added
15
minutes
to
their
response
time.
We
already
have
serious
troubles
on
these
roads.
The
added
traffic
of
the
development
would
create
literally
pandemonium
and
seriously
impede
emergency
vehicles.
Act.