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May 15, 2018
Asheville City Council Meeting
A
A
D
But
this
year
celebration
is
the
power
of
Public,
Works
and
2018
marks
the
58th
annual
National
Public
Works
week,
sponsored
by
the
American
public
workers
organization.
Now,
therefore,
Esther
Eve
and
member
of
the
mayor,
the
city
of
Asheville,
do
hereby
proclaim
the
week
of
May
twenty
thirty
six,
twenty
seven,
two
thousand
eighteen
as
National
Public
Works
week
in
the
city
of
Asheville,
and
urge
all
citizens
to
join
with
representatives
of
the
American
Public,
Works,
Association
and
government
agencies
and
activities,
events
and
ceremonies
designed
to
pay
tribute.
D
E
F
N
Technologically
from
using
the
International
codes
that
are
developed
by
national
voluntary
consensus
codes.
Allowing
our
government
to
avoid
the
high
cost
and
complexity
of
developing
and
maintain
these
codes
and
whereas
building
safety
month
is
sponsored
by
the
International
Code
Council,
to
remind
the
public
about
the
critical
role
of
our
communities,
largely
unknown
guardians
of
public
safety
and
whereas
coefficients
partners
in
community
safety
and
economic
growth.
O
M
Thank
You,
councilman,
young
and
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
council
for
your
continued
support,
the
development
services
department
and
for
your
recognition
tonight
I
think
it
means
a
lot
to
the
staff
and
I
also
want
to
thank
the
staff
for
all
the
hard
work
they
do
along
with
our
customers
to
make
Asheville
a
safe
and
resilient
City.
We
can
all
be
proud
of
them.
Thank
You,.
P
C
P
Q
B
P
For
being
in
adequately
treated
for
Lyme,
disease
can
sometimes
lead
to
death,
and
whereas
Lyme
disease
can
affect
the
brain,
heart
joints
and
other
workers
and
some
patients
do
not
develop.
The
characteristic
ratch
and
symptoms
may
not
appear
for
months
or
even
years
following
the
initial
infection,
and
patients
are
often
misdiagnosed
with
more
familiar
conditions
and
where.
P
P
May
2017
has
tick
borne
diseases,
Awareness
Month
in
the
city
of
Asheville,
and
implore
all
citizens
to
protect
personal
keeping
to
practice
personal
preventative
techniques
and
engaging
in
outdoor
activities
such
as
frequent
full-body
tick
checks
using
various
methods
to
repel
and
avoid
ticks
and
proper
tick
removal
techniques
and
witness
we're
here,
one
to
set
my
hand
and
cause
the
seal
in
the
city
of
Asheville
North
Carolina
to
be
affixed.
This
15th
day
of
May.
M
R
Read
it
everybody
read
this:
we
want
this
education
of
the
school
so
badly
we're
going
to
emphasize
this
time.
Psychiatric
line.
Is
there
a
possibility?
There
is
a
connection
to
tick
bites
and
opioid
crisis.
Mass
shootings,
military
suicides
I
have
lesions
in
my
brain
just
like
they
do
from
the
IEDs.
How
do
we
know
for
sure
there's
no
test
so
we're
giving
you
some
psychiatric
line
information?
R
Hopefully
you
could
give
that
to
the
Sheriff's
Department
we've
already
passed
out,
1900
of
the
last
year's
proclamation
from
you,
but
if
you
would
pass
them
to
the
appropriate
places
and
the
big
news
is
this
year,
we
now
have
a
federal
group,
tick-borne
diseases
working
group
in
DC,
and
they
have
53
members
in
just
a
matter
of
months.
Hopefully
they
can
expose
this
problem,
that's
been
hidden
far
too
long,
forty-three
years,
I
think
hidden
so
anyway.
Thank
you
so
much.
R
A
Just
weeks
later
should
be
now
celebrating
her
21st
birthday
and
whereas
to
help
honor
idea
and
the
96
Americans,
whose
lives
are
cut
short
and
the
countless
survivors
who
are
injured
by
shootings
every
day.
A
national
coalition
of
organizations
has
designated
you
first
2018,
the
first
Friday
in
June
as
the
fourth
national
gun,
violence,
Awareness
Day,
and
whereas
the
idea
was
inspired
by
a
group
of
ideas,
friends
who
asked
their
classmates
to
commemorate
her
life
by
wearing
orange.
A
And
whereas
we
renew
our
commitment
to
reduce
gun
violence
and
pledge
to
do
all,
we
can
to
keep
firearms
out
of
the
wrong
hands
and
encourage
responsible
gun
ownership
to
help
keep
our
children
safe.
Now,
therefore,
I
Esther
manheimer,
mayor
of
the
city
of
Asheville,
do
hereby
designate
by
June
1st
2018
as
national
gun,
violence,
Awareness
Day
in
the
city
of
Asheville
and
I
call
upon
all
citizens
to
support
their
local
communities,
efforts
to
prevent
the
effect
of
gun
violence
and
to
honor
and
value
human
lives.
S
Hi
there,
my
name
is
Arielle
Jacobson
and
I'm,
a
senior
at
AC,
Reynolds,
high
school
and
continuing
my
education
at
the
University
of
Asheville,
North,
Carolina
I,
know
you're
at
the
University
of
North
Carolina
Asheville.
Sorry
about
that
and
I
am
one
of
the
leads
of
the
students
demand
action.
Action
chapter
we
have
in
Asheville,
like
the
mayor
was
saying
we
have
an
event
on
June,
1st
and
June
2nd
on
June
1st.
We
are
having
a
scavenger
hunt
downtown
from
5:30
to
8
7:30,
where
we
meet
at
the
block
off
Biltmore.
S
You
can
just
kind
of
go
with
the
group
and
you'll
learn
about
on
statistics
and
stuff
that
have
to
do
with
gun,
violence
prevention
and
then
to
celebrate
the
lives
that
have
been
lost
from
gun
violence
on
June,
2nd
at
Highland
Brewing
in
the
meadow
from
12:30
to
4:30,
we're
having
like
a
human
foosball
tournament.
So
it's
kind
of
a
fun
family-friendly
event
to
celebrate
those
lives
who
have
been
taken
from
gun
violence.
S
We
think
this
is
a
really
important
issue
and
these
young
women
here
organized
the
March
for
our
lives
in
Asheville
event
with
me,
and
we've
done
so
much
work
for
this
we're
very
passionate
about
it
and
we
know-
and
we
do
believe
that
we
are
going
to
make
a
change.
I
see
a
lot
of
young
people
in
the
audience
and
really
urged-
and
it's
like
weird
I'm
not
talking
to
you
guys,
but
it's
I
really
urge
you
all
on
to
get
involved.
S
A
T
Mayor
vice
mayor
members
of
City,
Council
I'd
like
to
take
this
opportunity
to
introduce
you
to
Shaun
Smoot.
Mr.
Smoot
is
here
with
the
company
21st
century
policing.
We
have
brought
them
on
board
and
he
is
representing
them
tonight
in
looking
at
the
incident.
The
rush
incident
that
occurred
from
August
the
25th
through
the
investigation
of
it
from
2017.
So
he
is
in
town
this
week
and
assisting
and
he's
done
some
research
read
some
policies,
but
he's
now
in
the
process
of
actually
doing
the
on-the-ground
work.
T
U
Good
evening,
it's
a
pleasure
to
view
before
you
met
a
bear
members
of
the
City
Council,
as
we
are
speaking
and
meeting
here
this
evening
and
deal
with
the
team
of
folks.
There
are
a
couple
other
consultants
here
that
are
actually
riding
along
with
officers
of
this
very
night.
We
have
undergone
start
to
our
assessment
of
the
department's
policies
and
procedures
and
joining
with
the
police
department,
administration,
training,
Professional,
Standards
and,
of
course,
the
chief
over
the
next
couple
of
days
and
as
well
as
rank-and-file
officers
and
continue
our
review.
U
We
anticipate
that
our
review
will
be
completed
toward
the
end
of
July
and
I,
look
forward
to
presenting
the
results
of
our
report
to
you
at
that
time.
Just
by
way
of
introduction
of
background
myself,
I'm
licensed
attorney
in
the
state
of
Illinois
also
licensed
before
the
United
States
Supreme
Court
I
do
a
lot
of
police
reform
work
across
the
country,
as
shown
on
the
monitor
in
terms
of
Baltimore
and
Cleveland,
which
are
both
under
a
federal
consent,
decrees
and.
U
A
A
A
second
second,
okay,
I,
have
a
motion
and
a
second
to
approve
the
consent
agenda.
Is
there
anyone
wishing
to
comment
on
a
motion
to
approve
the
consent
agenda,
not
all
those
in
favor,
please
say
aye
all
right
and
we
have
a
number
of
presentations
tonight.
Thank
you,
bass,
staff,
Exodus
and
now
that's
consent.
Agenda
said
accrued
and
we
have
week
and
we
do
have
when
we
bring
some
people
up
to
be
seats.
Are
enough
more
people,
cycling
it.
We
have
some
available
seats
up
front
if
anybody
would
like
to
come
utilize
them.
A
The
first
presentation
tonight
is
the
city
of
Asheville,
Youth,
Leadership,
Academy
and
Erica.
Dermer
is
here
who
is
gonna,
help
us
through
this
process.
I
just
want
to
mention
before
these
folks
come
up
that
Kayla
or
what's
known
as
the
city
of
Asheville
Youth
Leadership
Academy
is
a
program
the
city
has
run
for
since
2007.
A
So
this
has
been
a
really
neat
program
now
for
11
years
and
I
appreciate
you
all
coming
down
tonight,
so
we
can
honor
you
and
your
accomplishments
and
eriko
fuel.
If
you'll
come
up
I
know
we
have
a
few
student
speakers
so
and
I
know
now
we're
pretty
jam-packed
with
young
people
in
here,
so
everyone
associated
with
Kayla
is
free
to
come
up
as
well
sure.
V
Good
evening,
City,
Council
and
mayor
Mannheimer,
thank
you
so
much
for
continuing
to
support
this.
This
program,
I
heartfelt
ly,
thank
you,
I'm
honored,
to
do
this
job
every
day,
so
without
further
ado,
I'm
going
to
call
up
five
presenters
and
then
the
rest
of
the
students
are
going
to
file
kind
of
in
a
circle
behind
them,
if
that's
okay,
just
so
that
they
can
also
be
represented.
So
the
fact
that
have
Caitlyn,
Sree
and
Jasmine
riddle
and
Isabelle
Allen,
going
though,
and
man
and
devon
bostick
come
on
up.
That's
not
ordinary
speaking.
C
X
Afternoon
my
name
is
Isabel
I'm,
a
senior
at
the
school
of
encoring
Life
Sciences
at
Asheville
and,
as
of
today,
I'll
be
a
gala
alumni,
but
just
sad
to
say,
but
I
would
be
continuing.
My
studies
at
Western
Carolina
University,
trying
to
get
my
prerequisites
for
physical
therapy
I've
been
in
the
Kayla
program
for
about
two
years
now.
My
first
internship
was
that
Habitat
for
Humanity
and
the
second
one
was
that
mountain
truth.
X
Kayla
has
opened
up
a
bunch
of
doors.
For
me
you
know
it
shows
us
young
people.
It
takes
us
out
into
the
community
and
to
jobs
like
maybe
our
typical
dog.
We
like
McDonald's
or
something
like
that,
but
it
takes
us
into
the
actual
adult
world
where
you
have
to
deal
with
numbers
and
papers
and
finally,
and
just
a
bunch
of
stuff
really.
But
what
really
like
I
loved
about
Kayla
was.
X
Y
I
did
apply
my
freshman
year
and
what
I
liked
about
Kayla
is
that
it
helped
me
get
into
the
real
world
and
be
an
adult
of
basics
and
rejection
that
you're
not
always
going
to
get
what
you
want
every
time
and
it
helped
me
work
on
myself
and
get
better
and
apply
my
sophomore
year
and
I
ended
up
working
at
leaf,
and
then
this
past
summer,
I
worked
at
I'm
gonna
go
part
and
I
also
learned
as
an
adult
that
you're
not
always
gonna.
Do
what
you
like
to
do.
Y
V
Y
Chance
to
kind
of
like
work
in
the
backgrounds
of
just
filing
papers
and
realizing
that
as
an
adult,
you're
gonna
have
to
do
a
lot
of
people.
Work
with
you,
which
I
realized
is
not
for
me.
So
going
into
that
for
me,
but
I'm
so
thankful.
That
Kayla
gave
me
the
opportunity,
because
when
I
was
younger,
I
didn't
want
to
be
a
social
worker
and
someone
did
they
work
in
the
office
and
I
actually
got
the
experience
for
and
seeing
it.
That
was
not
for
me,
I'm,
going
to
be
continuing.
Y
Z
Hello,
my
name
is
Jasmine
riddle
I'm
also
a
senior
at
Sousa
I've
also
been
a
part
of
Kahlo
for
two
years.
My
first
year
in
kala
had
an
internship
at
the
vitae
home
summer.
Camp
I
wasn't
too
excited
about
that
when
I
found
out,
I
was
gonna,
be
working
there,
because
I
didn't
really
like
kids,
but
throughout
this
summer,
I
learned
that
it
was
fun
working
with
the
kids
and
I
was
actually
kind
of
good
at
it,
and
then
my
second
internship
was
at
the
Mae
heck
in
the
human
resources
department.
Z
It
was
pretty
cool
because
I
got
to
explore.
The
different
aspects
of
healthcare,
like
I,
was
able
to
job
shadowed,
nurses
and
go
on
job
interviews
and
review,
resumes
and
do
phone
screens.
So
it's
pretty
fun,
then
a
major
aspect
of
Kayla,
that's
important
to
me
and
has
been
beneficial
to
me,
is
the
connections
and
support
that
we
received
through
Kayla
this
past
year,
applying
for
scholarships
and
college
applications.
Z
AA
Hello,
my
name
is
Rihanna
and
I
attend
school
in
Korea
life
sciences,
a
Nashville
I've
also
been
in
Kayla
for
two
years.
My
first
year,
I
interned
at
children,
first
communities
in
schools
and
then
my
second
year,
I
interned
at
care
partners
when
I
first
got
into
Kayla
thought
I
was
gonna,
be
you
know
mostly,
you
just
got
working
and
receiving
a
scholarship
money,
but
then
I
realized.
It
was
so
much
more
to
that.
Not
only
did
I
mature
as
a
person.
AA
I
realized
the
importance
of
punctuality,
just
communicating
with
different
people
and
I,
most
importantly,
community
service,
I
love
the
fact
that
Kayla
requires
to
have
20
hours
of
community
service
and
I
know
that
it
went
from
me
just
you
know
doing
it
to
get
the
20
hours
to
me,
actually
loving
what
I'm
doing
loving
giving
back
to
the
community.
One
of
my
favorite
activities
would
have
to
be
when
we
volunteered
at
the
step.
AA
That's
women's
shelter
not
only
was
I
getting
back
to
them
to
cooking
for
the
women
and
the
kids,
but
it
also
made
me
realize
that
I
need
to
be
grateful
and
humble
for
what
I
had
and
what's
been
going
on
in
my
life,
kayla
has
just
opened
so
many
doors
for
me,
I
think
Erika's.
So
much
for
you
know
coming
in
our
classroom,
helping
us
with
everything
she's
made
me
realize.
You
know
how
grateful
I
am
to
be
a
Nashville
I
know
just
being
here.
AA
18
years,
I
was
just
feeling
like
I'm
just
ready
to
go,
but
I
love
it
here.
I
do
plan
on
coming
back
eventually,
I'll
be
continuing.
My
studies
at
East,
Carolina,
University
majoring
in
nursing
and
I
do
plan
on
getting
the
Bob
in
their
community
and
I'm
continuing
giving
back
to
the
community
as
well.
Thank
you.
AB
Good
evening
City,
Council
and
mayor,
my
name
is
Katelyn
Shrey
I'd
like
to
start
off
by
congratulating
my
Kaelyn
mates
for
making
it
this
far.
We're
almost
done
guys
about
to
graduate
I'd,
also
like
to
thank
Erica,
because
this
year,
she's
been
so
helpful
to
me
and
just
everything
she's
been
able
to
do
as
far
as
resources
and
networking
and,
of
course,
this
internship,
so
I
met
her
when
this
was
the
first
year
that
Kayla
opened
up
the
county
school.
AB
So
I
was
sort
of
getting
picking
this
and
some
of
the
few
others
so
yeah,
no
matter
when
I
am
going
to
the
University
of
North
Carolina
at
Greensboro
at
the
pursuit
of
business
degrees,
I'm,
very
interested
in
hospitality
and
tourism.
So
over
the
summer,
I
was
quite
set
the
chamber
of
commerce
and
explore
Asheville,
and
there
I
think
it.
AB
So
sorry,
so
Kayla's
helped
me
accomplish
goals
for
myself.
That
I
did
have
set
and
goes
I
didn't
even
dreamed
of
I
haven't
even
planned
for
myself
and
after
the
interns
it
was
over.
Erika
has
stayed
in
touch
with
me
and
that
she
had
set
up
an
interview
with
Robert
Foster,
who
is
the
general
manager
at
them
betrayed
by
Helen
there
I
was
hired
as
a
front
desk
agent
and
forever.
I
would
be
thankful
for
America
for
that.
AB
V
C
I
B
AH
X
AJ
C
A
All
the
Kaela
folks
are
leaving,
but
just
for
everyone's
identification,
the
Kaela
program
is
obviously
pretty
fabulous
and
the
way
it
works
is
the
city
funds,
the
internship
positions
and
each
of
those
interns
actually
make
a
living
wage,
not
a
minimum
wage.
So
so
it's
a
really
awesome
program,
and
this
is
our
first
year
where
students
in
the
County
Schools
are
they
have
access
to
this
program.
A
Okay,
so
the
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
to
have
a
presentation
of
the
operating
budget
and
our
CFO
Barbara
white
Horne
is
going
to
do
that.
Just
so,
everyone
knows
the
process.
We've
done
several
work
sessions
and
Barbara
will
go
over
our
timeline,
I
bet
of
what
we've
been
doing,
but
the
public
hearing
on
the
budget
will
be
set
for
our
next
meeting,
which
happens
to
be
in
one
week
from
tonight.
So
this
is
the
presentation,
but
the
opportunity
to
speak
on
the
budget
will
happen
in
one
week.
So
Barbara,
please
take
it
away.
A
AL
The
budget
process
obviously
begins
for
staff
much
earlier
than
March
20th,
but
for
council
the
operating
budget
process
began
in
March.
The
capital
budget
process
was
completed
in
January,
as
I'm
sure
you
all
recall,
and
for
staff
budget
began
in
September
and
is
now
finally
wrapping
off
in
May.
So
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
time
in
between
budgets,
but
we
are
at
the
proposed
budget
presentation.
You
all
have
copies
I
believe
of
the
proposed
budget,
and
we
did
go
a
little
on
the
cheap
on
the
printing
deliberately
trying
to
save
a
little
money.
AL
We
are
today
public
hearing
next
week
a
work
session
if
it's
necessary.
If
there
are
questions
today
that
we
need
to
answer
if
there
are
things
that
need
to
be
changed
and
the
budget
adoption
is
scheduled
for
June
meeting
on
June,
19th,
ok,
so
key
budget
facts
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
a
great
detail,
because
you
all
have
seen
great
detail
over
the
course
of
three
work
sessions.
The
total
general
fund
budget
is
120
4.2
million
dollars,
that
is
a
2.9
percent
increase
over
the
prior
year,
the
property
tax
rate.
AL
AL
So,
just
to
kind
of
remind
you,
the
programs
and
initiatives
that
the
Blue
Ribbon
task
force
recommended
that
are
funded
in
this
budget
of
the
Human
Rights
Commission,
to
address
issues
of
equity,
diversity
and
inclusion
in
our
city
staff,
its
human
relations.
But,
oh
that's
you
know!
That's
because
I'm,
the
HRC,
the
other
one
yeah,
my
bad
sorry,
Human,
Relations,
Commission
and
I-
do
know
that
and
I
apologize
and
the
equity
office.
So
funding
for
the
development
of
the
equity
office
with
three
additional
staff
under
the
leadership
of
Kimberly
Archie.
So
I.
AK
AL
AL
Fee
changes
and
this
actually
the
parking
fee
changes
that
are
proposed
in
the
budget
are
on
your
agenda
to
be
voted
on
tonight.
What
staff
is
proposed
is
that
in
and
out
within
an
hour
remain
free.
However,
all
parking
over
one
hour
pays
the
first
hour
and
the
$800,000
that
that
is
estimated
to
generate
will
be
allocated
to
transit.
AL
A
AL
AL
A
Anybody
else
have
any
questions
again.
This
is
the
presentation
the
public
hearing
on
this
will
be
next
week
and
then
Council
will
vote
on
the
budget
at
our
one
meeting
in
June.
We
only
have
one
meeting
on
your
mouth,
what
19th
of
June,
so
we
do
have
one
normally
we
vote
on
the
fees
and
charges
package
as
a
package,
but
we
have
one
item
that
we
did
not
include
in
the
fees
and
package
the
fees
and
charges
package,
and
that
is
the
parking
fee
you
mentioned.
Do
you
need
it?
AL
A
A
So
I'm
trying
to
remember
how
we
do
this
in
terms
of
public
comment,
because
because
we
did
the
do
I,
take
public
comment
on
this
now.
Yes,
because
we
did
that
on
fees
in
charge
of
4th.
So
if
there's
any
one
year
any
council
member
also,
this
would
be
an
opportunity
to
comment
on
the
motion
to
adopt
the
fees,
the
fees
regarding
parking
that
are
on
the
overhead
projector,
okay,
I.
P
Yeah
I
just
want
to
know
just
kind
of
put
this
in
context.
I
know
we.
This
is
the
presentation
of
budget
which
took
it
took
about.
You
know
three
minutes,
so
everyone's
probably
sitting
here
be
incredibly
underwhelmed
and
I
guess
the
real
discussion
will
be
will
be
happening
next
week
in
the
public
comment.
P
But
just
in
terms
of
putting
this
in
the
context
and
we've
received
the
emails
from
folks,
some
some
downtown
folks
being
concerned
about
changing
this
and
the
impact
it
may
have
I'm
going
to
be
supporting
this
I
think
it's
something
that
is
important.
Folks
clearly
do
not
are
not
interested
in
seeing
a
tax
increase
and-
and
you
know,
you're
looking
at
$800,000
allocated
to
transit,
and
so
they,
the
the
gap
that
would
need
that
we
would
need
to
fill,
would
be
quite
significant.
P
In
my
view,
the
other
thing
I
think
for
some
of
the
folks
who
may
be
feeling
that
at
downtown
is
taking
a
hit
in
some
respects.
You
know,
there's
a
couple
of
other
things
that
we're
having
to
fund
this
year.
Number
one
is
with
only
fund
that
half
of
the
transit
increase
that
occurred
last
year,
that
happened
in
January
we've
got
a
fund
that
for
the
for
the
full
year.
The
other
thing
out
there,
too,
is
that
there
is
a
there.
P
Is
a
council
direction
here
to
create
a
downtown
district
for
the
police,
which
is
also
going
to
be.
You
know
costing
money
over
over
the
years,
so
you
know
I
realize
there
may
be
some
folks
here,
a
downtown
area
that
are
concerned
or
feel
like
they're
sort
of
taking
a
hit
on
that.
But
in
my
view
here
that
this
is
important
to
the
budget,
this
is
important
to
you,
know,
maintaining
our
transit
system
and
expanding
it
and
I
think
it's
a
reasonable
way
of
funding
and.
D
The
other,
the
other
thing
is
I,
would
I
think
it
continues
to
come
up
as
a
question
like,
why
do
we
charge
parking
in
downtown
at
meters
etc?
When,
across
the
city
we
don't
so
I?
If
we
have
agreement
on
that,
would
like
the
city
staff
to
go
back
and
kind
of
relook
at
where
parking
is
metered
in
the
city
and
where
it
isn't
and
and
kind
of
come
up
with
the
justification
for
the
differential,
the
difference
with
wide
downtown
versus
no
place
else
in
the
city.
A
Or
all
our
recommendation
to
look
at
metering,
other
parts
of
the
city,
so,
for
example,
Biltmore
village
is
not
metered.
West
Asheville
is
not
meter
there.
There's
the
river
arts
district
does
not
meet
her
Biltmore
Park
is
not
metered,
so
there
are
a
lot
of
areas
of
the
city
that
aren't
metered,
that
also
the
retail
customers
and
other
visitors,
and
so
we
talked
about
this
over
the
years,
but
for
whatever
reason,
haven't
haven't
seen
a
comprehensive
proposal
come
forward
and
I
know.
A
A
AN
Hi,
my
name
is
Karen
Ramshaw
and
when
I
was
coming
over
here,
there
was
a
car
that
had
a
bumper
sticker
and
it
said,
love
Asheville
go
local
and
we
all
know
that
the
highest
concentration
of
locally
owned
businesses
is
downtown
and
with
there's
always
a
big
complaint
all
over
the
city
that
we,
you
know
that
downtown
is
turning
into
a
tourist
area.
Well,
this
kind
of
policy
is
just
making
it
worse.
It's
already
hard
enough
for
us
to
come
downtown
and
there
is
no
other
place
to
park.
AN
You
know
the
council
has
not
voted
to
to
provide
the
infrastructure.
We
take
downtown,
and
you
know
in
nineteen,
eighty
people
all
across
the
city
stood
up
and
said
that
they
cared
about
downtown
and
they
didn't
want
to
tear
it
down,
and
it
feels
to
me
that
this
kind
of
policy
is
just
contributing
to
the
loss
of
something
that
people
have
worked
very
very
hard
since
1980
to
rebuild
and
I
just
feel
that
downtown
needs
to
be
for
everybody.
Not
just
you
know,
people
who
can
afford
it.
Thank
you.
B
A
A
So
if
you're,
you
know,
if
you're
someone
who's
just
needs
to
jump
in
someplace
and
pick
up
your
stuff
or
you
know
you
make
you're
making
a
30-minute
trip
downtown
your
first
hour
will
still
be
free,
so
that's
a
little
bit
confusing,
but
we
made
that
change
more
recent
work
session.
Anyone
else
wishing
to
speak
on
the
Senate.
Yes.
AO
Thank
you.
My
name
is
Dee
Williams,
mayor
and
city
council.
One
of
the
things
that
I
would
ask
that
you
do
is
to
come
up
with
a
more
sustainable
way
to
pay
for
increases,
not
necessarily
a
Business
Improvement
District,
because
that
means
that
property
taxes
and
everything
else
are
going
to
go
up
and
that
does
work
against
locally
owned
small
businesses.
AO
W
A
AP
All
right,
Thank
You,
mayor
members
of
council,
my
name
is
Pierre
wall
and
the
parks
program
manager
in
capital
projects.
Department
Jade,
is
out
of
town
and
I'll,
be
filling
in
to
provide
a
brief
update
on
the
overall
bond
program,
so
we'll
be
providing
a
snapshot
of
where
we
are
overall
for
the
year
for
the
parks
of
transportation
projects,
so
to
start
I'd
like
to
give
an
overview
of
the
capital
projects
phases
and
how
we
basically
move
each
project
from
conceptualization
to
operations
through
that
process.
So
the
first
phase
of
that
is
project.
Prioritization
excuse.
AP
AP
AP
We
won't
linger
too
long
on
this.
I
know,
there's
a
lot
of
words
in
there.
We're
going
to
move
forward
pretty
quickly
past
this,
but
the
cowboy'
projects.
Department,
is
organized
around
mainly
this
middle
body
of
phrases
here,
which
is
the
project
planning,
design
and
construction
phases
and
I'll
discuss
these
in
more
detail
as
we
move
to
the
next
one
and
then
of
course,
operations
when
we
hand
that
back
over
to
the
operating
departments.
AP
So,
as
I
mentioned,
project
planning,
site
design
and
construction,
those
are
the
three
main
buckets
if
you
will
of
where
the
capital
projects
department
will
oversee
those
for
the
departments
so
focusing
on
project
planning.
Obviously
this
is
this
is
the
phase
where
we're
deciding
high-level
project
information
concepts
through
staff,
interaction
and
interaction
with
the
public.
This
process
usually
takes
several
months
to
years,
depend
upon
the
complexity
of
the
project
and
efforts
include
project
concepts,
initial
budgeting,
community
input
and
identification
of
project
challenges.
AP
So
current
projects
in
this
phase
of
the
bond,
our
Memorial
Stadium,
which
we're
going
through
a
consultant
selection
process.
Now
for
that
project,
dr.
Wesley
grant
Southside
Center
again
we're
also
going
to
consult
a
selection
process
right
now
for
that
project
parks,
land
acquisition
and
road
resurfacing
phase
three.
So
currently
the
value
of
the
projects
in
the
planning
phase
are
about
twenty-eight
point:
five
million
dollars.
AP
The
next
phase,
as
we
move
forward,
would
be
the
site,
planning
and
design
phase.
So
this
is
where
we
would
refine
the
scopes,
those
vision,
goals
and
objectives
that
were
identified
in
the
planning
phase
and
develop
a
set
of
construction
drawings
to
actually
design
and
bid
and
then
build
the
project
so
with
a
well-defined
scope
and
depending
upon
flight
project
complexity.
Again,
this
process
can
take
several
months
to
several
years
project
products
of
this
initial
effort
or
refine
the
budget
bid
documents
to
bid
the
projects,
acquisition
and
easements
and
construction
agreements.
AP
So
current
examples
include
the
sports
court,
which
is
on
consent
agenda
tonight,
which
will
move
into
construction
and
completion.
Eventually,
in
fall
of
this
year,
Tempe
Avery
Moffett
complex.
We
recently
received
bids
for
that
project
and
that'll
be
forthcoming,
Hill
Street
sidewalk
project
and
Airport
Road,
so
projects
currently
in
this
phase
are
about
twelve
and
a
half
million
dollars.
AP
Final
phase
would
be
construction.
Obviously,
this
is
the
phase
where
we'll
be
building
the
projects
that
meet
the
planning
and
design
expectations
identified
in
the
prior
phases.
Projects
in
this
phase
of
work
are
typically
completed
in
1
one
year
or
one
season.
Excuse
me,
April
and
November
do
the
climate
that
we
have
here
in
Asheville
and
can
take
multiple
years
spent
upon
project
complexity.
So
products
of
this
effort
include
new
or
refurbished
infrastructure,
and
this
phase
obviously
has
the
most
impact
to
citizens.
AP
So
we
want
to
reach
out
to
those
local
businesses
and
residents
and
have
an
open
communication
plan
for
each
of
these
projects.
Moving
forward.
Current
examples
are
Martin,
Luther
King
strived
to
be
completed
this
month,
phase
won't
be
surfacing.
Bus
shelters,
which
is
about
50%,
complete
traffic
calming,
which
is
about
30%
complete,
so
projects
currently
in
this
phase
are
about
seven
and
a
half
million
at
the
bottom,
so
Martin
Luther,
King
Drive,
as
I
mentioned
before.
This
is
what
it
looked
like
before
the
resurfacing
work
started
and
then,
of
course
it's.
This
is
in
progress.
AP
This
was
several
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,
while
we
were
preparing
this
presentation
and
then
also
just
to
direct
y'all's
attention
to
the
project
capital
projects,
dashboard,
which
has
all
information
and
recently
I,
wanted
to.
Thank
that
T.
Department
because
they
just
added
another
indicator
there,
which
is
under
contract,
so
we're
trying
to
improve
the
transparency
and
the
dashboard.
And
that
concludes
the
presentation.
AP
AP
A
A
AS
AR
Members
of
council
I'm
excited
to
share
with
you
what
we
have
done
so
far
and
what
you
can
look
forward
to
in
the
future.
With
regard
to
our
search
or
the
new
city
manager,
you
might
recall
that
we
did
an
RFP
in
April
and
excuse
me
is
actually
in
March
and
selected
spring
stead
waters
to
assist
us
in
our
search
for
our
new
city
manager.
AR
They
are
out
of
Texas
and
we
had
nine
responses,
all
very
capable
search
firms
and
selected
spring
sted,
really
based
on
their
ability
and
their
comparable
searches
that
they've
done
with
cities
of
our
size,
their
cost,
their
national
approach
and
their
commitment
to
diversity,
and
those
were
some
of
the
characteristics
that
we
looked
hard
for
in
deciding
who
to
go
with.
We
have
public
engagement
meetings.
We
have
Howard
already
conducted
one
may
tenth
that
we
actually
had
two
meetings
on
May
10th,
where
we
sought
input
from
some
members
of
the
city
residents
in
the
city.
AR
You
know,
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that.
In
a
couple
minutes.
We
have
some
based
on
your
request.
We've
planned
a
lot
of
a
great
deal
of
activities
for
the
residents
to
have
the
opportunity
to
weigh
in
on
the
kind
of
profile
you
want
to
see
with
your
next
city
manager,
that
includes
city
engagement
opportunities
and
we
have
meetings
scheduled
the
17th
with
our
employees.
People
are
invited
to
come
and
give
input
as
to
what
they
want
to
see
in
their
next
city
manager.
AR
There
is
a
survey
that
that
residents
can
take
to
give
input
and
it
can
be
found
on
the
website
which
I'll
access
here
in
just
a
minute.
There
also
are
physical,
copies
available
for
residents,
who
prefer
paper
in
the
recreation
and
community
centers.
There's
a
hotline
for
folks
to
call
and
give
input.
AR
To
those
questions.
Again,
we
had
public
meetings,
May
10th
in
the
South
part
of
town.
We
have
a
downtown
meeting
scheduled
this
Saturday
folks
are
welcome
to
come.
We
have
interpretive
services
available
at
all
public
meetings.
We
have
childcare
available
for
ages,
5
and
up
at
all
public
meetings.
Next
steps
again
I
mentioned
earlier.
We
have
focus
groups
with
the
staff.
The
search
firm
will
be
here
next
week,
23rd
24th
25th.
They
will
meet
with
each
of
you
to
hear
from
you
all.
D
B
D
AM
AR
Well,
I
have
to
thank
my
community
or
excuse
me,
communications
and
public
engagement
partners
in
making
all
this
happen.
So
I'll.
Ask,
though,
is
there
a
backup
for
community
meeting
okay
and
you
that
maybe
something
will
we'll
visit
with
the
search
firm
representative
next
week
when
they
come
because.
AR
AM
A
A
A
It
would
strengthen
our
tools
for
for
us,
as
a
council
and
us
as
a
city
to
to
implement
change
that
better
reflects
the
direction
of
our
community
and
so
on.
That
list
were
several
different
items
and
I've
got
some,
but
some
of
it
was
suggestions
legislation
you
will
see
on
our
agenda
later
on
tonight.
There
is
an
item
of
resolution
regarding
the
citizen,
police,
Advisory
Committee,
and
that
resolution
would
call
for
the
elimination
of
the
of
the
current
seat
pack
or
citizen
police
advisory
committee.
A
Right
now,
the
city
is
underway
with
the
creation
of
a
Human
Relations
Commission.
As
of
today,
we
received
33
applications
for
that
Commission,
so
this
that
it,
coupled
with
that
this
package
of
legislation
would
request
that
the
legislature
enact
a
local
bill.
That
would
allow
us
to
have
a
citizen
review
committee
that
better
reflects
what
the
community
has
advised
us.
They
want
and
we
want,
which
is
a
citizen
review
committee
that
can
actually
do
something.
Instead
of
just
make
a
recommendation.
A
The
legislation
includes
the
power
of
the
citizen
review
committee
to
to
make
binding
decisions
to
have
subpoena
power,
to
look
at
personnel
records
to
be
able
to
view
body
cam
footage
under
what
the
confidentiality
agreement
I'll
tell
you
a
little
bit
more
about
that,
but
in
other
words,
a
CPAC
that
has
the
teeth
that
the
community
is
concerned
about.
This
bill
applies
to
Asheville.
Our
proposed
bill
that
we
would
also
legislature
for
applies
to
Asheville,
but
it
is
modeled
after
House
bill
165,
which
was
introduced
last
session.
A
That
bill
did
not
make
crossover,
which
means
it
never
crossed
over
from
the
house
to
the
Senate.
So
it's
that
we
did,
but
it
is
a
a
model
that
would
have.
It
is
a
bill
that
would
have
applied
statewide
and
I
contacted
one
of
the
sponsors
of
that
bill
and
I
said
you
know.
Does
this
bill
gonna
move?
Are
you
guys
gonna
scoop
this
bill
up,
put
it
in
something
else
that
actually
has
an
attraction,
and
he
said
no,
but
you
could
come
and
ask
for
a
local
bill
that
uses
the
same
concept.
A
So
that's
that's
what
is
drafted
here,
because
we
have
a
Civil,
Service
Board
already
in
existence
in
Asheville
the
creation
of
a
citizen
review
committee
that
actually
has
the
power
to
make
binding
and
appealable
decisions.
Because
of
due
process.
It
does
not
work
to
also
have
a
Civil
Service
Board.
So
you
will
see,
coupled
with
this,
the
elimination
of
a
Civil
Service
Board,
that
that
is
a
big
change,
doesn't
be
a
big
change
for
the
governing
systems
here
for
the
city
and
one
that
will
take
a
lot
of
a
conversation.
A
But
again
this
was
based
on
the
meetings
we've
had
in
the
discussions
we've
had.
In
addition,
this,
the
the
requested
legislation
we
also
included
here
is-
is
an
exception
that
would
apply
to
Asheville
for
the
body-cam
state
law,
which
does
not,
as
you
know,
allow
City
Council's
to
review
body
cam
footage.
Nor
does
it
allow
a
citizen
review
board
to
look
at
body
cam
footage.
This
would
create
exceptions
for
the
City
Council
and
the
ANA
citizen,
Review
Board.
A
If
one
were
created
to
be
able
to
see
that
body
cam
footage
if
they,
if
we
signed
a
confidentiality
agreement,
the
reason
that
is
in
there
and
I
don't
like
that
either.
But
the
reason
that
is
in
there
is
because
the
legislature
was
about
this
close
last
session
to
passing
a
reform
to
the
current
state
law
on
body,
cam,
footage
access
and
a
and
when
it
went
to
the
floor
of
the
house
and
included
a
provision
that
would
allow
City
Council's
and
since
the
review
boards,
if
applicable,
to
review
body
cam
footage.
A
If
a
confidentiality
agreement
was
signed
and
an
amendment
was
offered
on
the
floor
to
strip
that
provision
out
and
it
passed
59
to
57,
which
means
it
was
really
close
and
we're
hearing
that
there
may
be
some
interest
to
revisit
that.
So
so
that
council
statewide
could
see
the
body
cam
footage.
But
it's
clear
that
the
legislature
will
not
consider
without
some
kind
of
confidentiality
provision.
A
Nevertheless,
that
if
that
were
to
come
to
fruition,
the
state
law
that
allows
City
Council's
to
then
appeal
to
the
courts
to
or
to
petition
the
courts
to
have
that
body.
Cam
footage
provided
to
the
public,
which
we've
already
done
once
before,
would
still
be
a
vehicle.
So
so,
if
the
council
signed
a
confidentiality
view
that
body
cam
footage
and
said
you
know
what
we
need
to
go
to
court
to
get
this
out
in
the
public,
we
would
still
have
that
opportunity.
A
I'm
trying
to
make
sure
I'm
not
missing
any
one
of
them.
I
think
this
isn't
anything
to
vote
on.
This
is
just
to
to
let
you
know
that
we're
following
through
on
the
to
do
list
of
different
things
that
we
wanted
to
do.
You
heard
already
tonight
about
the
third-party
review
of
APD,
but
this
is
the
package
of
legislation
I'm,
sorry,
and
it
also
includes
the
bill.
A
That
would
ask
that,
as
some
of
you
may
know
currently,
if
you
file
a
complaint
against
someone,
an
APD
because
of
the
personnel
laws,
160
168,
the
results
of
your
complaint
may
not
be
disclosed
to
you,
because
it
concerns
what's
considered
to
be
personnel.
Private
personnel
matters.
So
that's
a
little
bit
of
a
bizarre
result.
So
we
ask
again
for
legislation
that
applies
just
to
Asheville,
that's
toddled
after
Greensboro's
model,
which
would
allow
a
complaint
to
actually
hear
the
results
of
their
complaint,
whether
disciplinary
action
was
taken
or
whatever
the
results
were.
A
P
I
just
want
them
there
if
I
may
be
this.
This
is
the
first
time
I'm
seeing
this
and
I
want
to
be
collegial
here.
But
but
this
is,
these
are
significant
legislative
priorities
and,
as
a
council
member,
this
wasn't
even
on
the
agenda.
So
so
you
know
my
take
on
this
right
now.
I
know:
we've
discussed
these
things
conceptually,
but
I
mean
there's
significant
aspects
of
it
and
and
the
fact
that
it's
sort
of
being
honestly,
these
are,
in
my
view,
spawn
want
us
now.
P
We
are
putting
this
forth
as
if
it
is
the
entire
bodies
perspective
on
our
legislative
priorities,
having
not
had
an
ability
to
sit
down
in
any
sort
of
Governance
Committee,
which
I
believe
is
how
this
was
done
in
the
past
and
just
being
passed
out
to
us
now
so
I.
Imagine
I
just
want
to
note
that
as
a.
A
I
will
say
that
this
legislation,
as
drafted,
is
really
just
a
reflection
of
the
discussion
we
had
on
a
council
level
about
how
we
wanted
to
to
make
changes
in
the
city,
and
so
you
know
agreed
that
when
we
looked
at
that
list
of
items
it
was
much
more
conceptual.
This
is
the
actual
drafting
of
those
concepts.
So
some
when
people
say
yeah
I
wanted
I
agree
with
X,
and
then
you
actually
see
what
the
product
is.
You
might
not.
A
You
might
not
feel
comfortable
with
it,
but
I
will
say
the
personnel
disclosure
information
area,
the
body
cam
footage
changes
a
lot
of
that.
We
we
had
talked
about
the
creation
of
a
citizen
review
board
that
has
actual
authority
as
well,
but
we
we
unfortunately
have
short
time
because
the
legislature
is
going
into
session
tomorrow.
However,
the
bill
drafting
deadline
is
not
until
May
May
25th,
so
we
can
I
would
be
glad
to
have
a
Governance
Committee
meeting
next
Tuesday
no
Governance
Committee
well.
N
A
Oh,
yes,
I
think
I.
Think
anytime,
you
ask
the
legislature
for
legislation
whether
or
not
they'll
consider
it
and
pass
it
as
a
whole
other
ballgame,
and
they
have
already
said
heads
up
everyone.
This
is
a
lightning-fast
session,
although
apparently
they
will
have
time
to
pass
senator
Edwards
local
districting
bill,
so
maybe
they'll
have
time
or
Ferrar
else
without.
P
A
Dj,
if
you
would
like
what
we
will
do
is
we
can
have
a
Governance
Committee
next
week
and
consider
the
bills
then
and
put
them
on
the
agenda
for
consideration
that
and
then
that
way
the
public
can
also
have
a
chance
to
look
at
them
as
well
and
take
action
officially
at
that
point,
would
that
be?
Would
that
be
acceptable?
Yes,.
N
I'll
say
this:
governors
consist
of
the
mayor
myself
and
Councilwoman
Shaniqua
Smith
I'll
speak
for
myself
only
I'm
thrilled
with
the
legislation
that
hopefully
will
be
entered
into
this
short
session.
I
think
it
addresses
a
lot
of
the
concerns
of
individuals
in
the
community
that
wanted
to
see
when
we
talked
about
CPAC
and
we
talked
about
HRC
and
all
these
different
things
that
culminated
in
the
city
of
Asheville
within
the
last
couple
of
years.
N
They
want
to
see
us
as
a
city
moving
forward,
putting
our
best
foot
forward
and
making
every
effort
to
address
the
concerns
that
they
have
asked
us
to
address,
especially
when
eliminating
our
CPAC
and
putting
together
a
human
relations
commission
that
will
have
some
teeth
and
give
the
city
of
Asheville
a
great
deal
of
tools,
as
the
mayor
mentioned
in
its
toolbox.
That
will
help
us
be
able
to
alleviate
some
of
the
some
of
the
issues
that
are
in
our
company.
In
our
community
and
I
think
this
does
a
really
good
job
of
that
I.
N
Think
I
think
this
is
the
city
of
Asheville
is
best
foot
forward
to
approach
the
things
when
we
tell
folks
it's
not
on
our
plate
to
do
it,
because
the
General
Assembly
won't
allow
us
to
do
it,
but
trying
to
work
with
the
General
Assembly
and
go
through
the
proper
channels
of
allowing
the
city
of
Asheville
to
do
what
it
needs
to
do
to
make
our
community
better
I
think
this
is.
This
is
one
of
the
best
vehicles
to
do
that,
and
so
I'm
thrilled
and
I'm
happy
to
support
it.
N
AM
Agree
with
what
must
be
M
presented
here,
but
I
think
it
goes
back
to
lucious
getting
real
comfortable
with
a
process.
I
think
we've
seen
that
a
couple
times
this
year,
where
we
really
haven't
been
able
to
weigh
in
totally
on
a
lot
of
things
before
we've
had
to
make
the
decision
and
as
a
new
council
member
I
look
like
to
sit
with
things
are
a
lot
longer.
So
I
can
actually
appropriate
questions
to
constituents
and
have
time
to
think
about
things
too
thoroughly.
A
AQ
So
this
is
an
overview
of
some
of
the
requests
that
we
got
from
code
for
Asheville
at
the
last
April
24th
meeting
in
the
Asheville,
our
code,
fresh
post,
petition
for
police
accountability
for
data
transparency.
Council
of
members
then
asked
staff
to
review
for
the
feasibility
of
implementing
the
open
data
requests
and
provide
a
timeline.
So
these
are
the
the
list
of
things
that
were
requested
in
the
petitioned.
The
open
data
sets
policies
and
reports
in
additional
action
items.
AQ
This
presentation
is
going
to
lay
out
the
next
steps
for
the
data
sets
and
the
policies
in
the
reports.
Some
of
the
additional
action
items
there
in
the
right
column
will
need
a
bit
further
guidance
from
Council
on
implementation
over
the
last
two
weeks.
Since
that
meeting
IT
the
city
manager's
office,
APD
and
legal
have
reviewed
the
open
data
requests
and
we've
developed
the
next
steps.
I'd
like
to
thank
Patrick
here
for
bringing
the
petition
forward
and
the
thoughtful
recommendations.
AQ
We
look
forward
to
working
collaboratively
with
him
as
our
open
data
program
grows,
so
open
data.
We
just
wanted
to
provide
a
kind
of
a
general
definition
of
open
data.
This
definition
is
provided
by
the
Police
Foundation,
and
the
city
of
Asheville
already
provides
a
lot
of
data
in
reports
that
are
on
our
website.
AQ
AQ
AQ
AQ
We're
hoping
the
others
will
happen
in
the
next
few
months,
and
this
includes
the
request
for
a
PD
manual
policies
and
forms
that
are
public
records,
there's
what
those
will
get
up
to
additional
action
items
will
occur
and
as
as
we
address,
those
short-term
items
will
also
begin
the
larger
process
of
addressing
these
data
requests
as
staff.
We
started
this
conversation
regarding
these
data
sets
and
we'd
like
more
voices
at
the
table
as
we
work
through
the
questions
and
concerns
that
we
need
to
consider
before
posting
posting
these
status.
AT
Thank
You,
mayor
and
council
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
today,
I
just
wanted
to
share
well.
First
of
all,
let
me
also
thank
Patrick
Conant
and
also
good
for
Asheville
for
some
real
tireless
work
and
many
many
hours
that
have
gone
in
to
bring
this
forward
and
helping
to
push
our
city
in
a
in
this
direction.
I
know
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
efforts
gone
into
that
so
think
so.
AT
I
am
the
business
and
public
technology
manager
for
the
IT
department
and
as
part
of
that
program,
we
specifically
support
the
open
data
program.
We
we're
the
ones
responsible
for
all
the
technical
stuff
that
goes
on
with
the
open
data
portal,
and
we
also
do
the
community
data
engagement,
which
I'm
going
to
talk
about
in
a
moment.
So
some
of
you
have
been
to
some
code
for
Asheville
events
as
well
as
city
for
city
of
Asheville.
Events
in
the
past,
like
open
day
to
day,
hosted
twice.
AT
I
know
some
of
you
have
participated
and
are
in
our
program
helps
support
that
public
engagement
around
data,
so
I
wanted.
So
in
addition
to
thanking
them,
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
ID
Services
has
been
working
for
some
time
to
improve
our
overall
data
governance
process
and
some
of
that's
been
brought
forward
to
the
Governance
Committee
in
the
past,
but
we're
looking
to
do
that
for
all
City
open
data.
Public
Safety
data
is
one
key
area,
but
we're
looking
to
do
this
citywide
and
one
that
explicitly
includes
community
engagement
in
a
meaningful
way.
AT
So
we
put
together-
and
admittedly
this
some
of
this
we've
been
doing
for
a
long
time.
So
this
is
a
draft
process
for
open
data.
The
stuff
on
the
left
there
Jonathan
Feldman
our
IT
director
and
is
referred
to
as
the
three
P's
of
policy,
pragmatics
and
participation
policy
is
City
Council.
You
tell
us
that
something's
a
priority
we
make
it
happen
if
it
becomes
part
of
our
open
data
program.
Community
nominates
data,
that's
participation!
AT
So
if
there's
community
involvement,
something
gets
requested,
we
review
that
and
see
if
we
can
make
it
happen,
if
there's
any
technical
concerns
or
how
we
can
make
that
and
lastly,
sometimes
just
pragmatic
staff
will
identify.
We
look,
for
example,
at
public
records
requests
and
if
we
get
the
same
request
over
and
over
again
for
the
same
information,
we
will
try
to
automate
that.
So
it's
on
our
open
data
portal,
it's
updated
every
day
and
staff
doesn't
have
to
spend
time
answering
the
same
request
over.
However,
it's
self-service
for
the
residents
and
community.
AT
So
that's
what
that's
sort
of
what
guides
the
principles
of
how
we've
done
open
data
to
date.
So
this
process
we've
been
thinking
through
it.
Admittedly,
this
is
just
a
few
days
old
in
terms
of
putting
together.
This
flowchart
and
I
should
also
say
that
in
a
meeting
yesterday,
with
Patrick,
I
already
got
some
good
feedback
and
how
to
how
to
improve
this.
So
this
is
draft
I
want
to
stress
and-
and
we
hope
and
expect
to
make
this
better
so
that
we
can
meet
the
community's
expectations.
AT
AT
Why
that
can't
happen.
There
should
be
a
good
reason
for
that,
and
we
expect
that
we
can
that
when
necessary,
we're
in
the
process
now
of
setting
up
the
actual
mechanics
of
this.
So
we
anticipate
monthly
meetings,
so
we
can
get
face-to-face
and
kind
of
work
out
some
of
the
tougher
issues,
as
well
as
an
opportunity
for
online
engagement
cuz.
We
want
people
to
be
able
to
weigh
in
if
they
forgot,
if
they
can't
come
to
City
Hall
or
they
can't
come
to
a
meeting
at
a
community
center.
AT
We
want
them
to
be
able
to
weigh
and
we'll
provide
the
ability
to
do
that.
We're
currently
starting
the
process
of
actually
setting
these
meetings
up
and
reaching
out
to
groups
like
code
for
Asheville
to
tell
us
who
needs
to
be
in
the
room.
We
want
to
make
sure
we're
getting
the
right
people
we're
not
going
to
just
identify
this.
So
it's
we're
gonna,
let
the
community
self-identify
in
terms
of
who
needs
to
participate,
and
we
want
to
stress
that
we
see
this
opportunity
working
through
this
draft
policy
and
we're
finding
it.
AT
That's
before
you
now
in
terms
of
the
petition
that
we
come
before
the
Public
Safety
Committee,
on
a
quarterly
basis
to
report
on
the
progress
and
I
would
say,
report
on
the
progress
until
every
single
item
on
that
request
has
been
addressed,
one
way
or
another.
We
feel
like.
We
owe
it
to
you
all
and
of
the
community
to
be
able
to
address
every
single
item
and
we
won't
stop
until
it's
done.
W
A
AQ
AQ
A
AQ
So
you
know
in
conversation,
it's
it's
questions.
They
just
need
a
little
bit
more
thought,
and
that
doesn't
mean
it's
going
to
take
a
huge
amount
of
time.
There's
questions
around
how
the
data
is
currently
collected
and
even
if
it's
available
for
an
open
data
data
set
and
I
can't
I'm
trying
to
explain
IT
talk
and
I'm
not
great
at
it,
but
so
some
of
these
aren't
available.
Yet
in
a
set
in
a
data
set
that
we
can
even
upload
on
vendetta,
yeahit's.
A
I
think
that
was
more
of
a
problem
of
it's
not
like.
We
have
it
sitting
there.
It's
just
a
decision
about
pressing
a
button.
It's
the
question
is
of
on
the,
for
example,
emergency
call
data
where
there's
a
request
for
the
location
of
the
call,
the
different
details
about
the
call
the
there
I
guess:
there's
not
a
full
understanding.
A
Yet
if
all
that
data
is
collected
and
then
if
it
is
what
format
it's
in,
so
it
sounded
to
me
like
some
of
it
was
that
and
then
some
of
these
some
of
them
may
bring
up
issues
of
you
know
if
you've
got
to
protect
people's
confidentiality
or
whatever
the
concern
might
be.
That
has
to
also
be
addressed,
so
it
sounds
it's
it
would
I
mean
I
share.
Your
frustration.
A
Brian
would
like
to
hear
more
of
a
timeline,
but
it
sounds
like
we
don't
know
enough
yet
about
what
what
kinds
of
challenges
we
may
see
very
little
challenges
in
some
of
these
categories,
but
we
may
see
harder
challenges
and
others
and
the
timeline
so
Brian.
The
idea
would
be
to
bring
bring
this
group
together
and
then
come
to
public
safety
and
say
you
know,
here's
kind
of
the
status
of
each
of
these
five
items,
but
we
could
also
we
don't
necessarily
have
to
go
back
to
public
safety.
A
W
B
W
A
AT
W
N
Can
I
can
concur
with
councilmember
Haynes
I
think
at
this
point
in
time.
I
think
what
you
see
right
here
is
it's
obvious
that
when
council
wants
something
to
move
very
quickly,
those
things
happen
at
a
rate
that
is,
that
is
unbeknownst
to
the
way
the
things
usually
move,
and
in
this
sense,
whatever
we
can
move
forward
as
quickly
as
possible
needs
to
happen.
It
is
not
acceptable
to
to
say
we
don't.
We
have
an
arbitrary
timeline
where
we
don't
know.
N
A
A
Victim
and
this
doesn't
give
us
detail-
I
mean,
for
example,
number
three
says:
emergency
call
data,
but
it
doesn't
break
it
down.
We
know
it's
not.
We
know
that
its
certain
information
under
each
of
these
items,
so
if
we
could
hear
more
about
exactly
what's
being
requested
and
whether
we
do
collect
that
data
now
or
not
whether
we
do
collect
it
in
a
format
that
is
easy
to
release
or
not,
and
then,
if,
if
yes,
yes,
we
collect
it
and
we
have
it.
Then
what
is
the
barrier
to
producing
that
information
to
the
public?
A
N
Know,
I
don't
care
about
the
can-do
attitude.
Even
more
results
need
to
be
in
it.
They
need
to
happen.
I'm
sorry
like
the
can
can't
be
kicked
down.
The
road
anymore.
I
can't
come
to
any
more
of
these
meetings
and
and
watch
somebody
put
something
up
on
the
screen
and
say
well,
you
know
been
working
on
it
and
we
don't
need
next
week.
We'll
see
you
in
a.
N
Can't
do
that
anymore,
I'm!
Sorry,
it
has
to
happen.
I,
don't
care
how
it
happens.
I'm
it
just
has
to
happen
whatever
the
whatever
the
barriers
are
to
making
it
happen.
I
don't
even
want
to
know
those
anymore.
I
just
want
someone
to
come
here.
To
tell
me
this
is
what
we're
gonna
do,
and
this
is
when
it's
gonna
happen.
I.
N
P
D
Councilman
Kapoor's
point:
it's
not
only
it's
not
only
transparency
about
what
APD
is
doing,
but
it's
also
making
sure
that
our
citizens
are
protected,
and
so
we
we
must
have.
We
must
look
at
it
all.
You
know
a
360
way,
because
I
don't
want
to
see
any
of
our
citizens
put
in
harm's
way
in
in
order
to
to
respond
to
this,
so
I
think
we
just
have
to
really
make
sure
that
we're
really
thinking
about
everybody
that
has
an
interest
in
this
data
or
doesn't
have
an
interested
in
the
data.
All.
A
AQ
L
Thank
you
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
speak
tonight
to
start
I
wanted
to
provide
an
update
on
our
signatures
and
endorsements
last
time.
I
was
here,
I
forget
what
the
numbers
are,
but
as
of
right
now
we
have
a
thousand
and
18
signatures
and
30
endorsements,
which
I
want
to
provide
for
the
public
press.
L
L
A
really
clear
process
to
do
that,
I
find
it
I
mean
pretty
frustrating
that
we're
going
back
and
forth
saying
that
there's
concerns
around
privacy,
because
it's
not
that
hard
dandelo.
You
know
I
want
to
sincerely
thank
everyone.
Who's
helped
us
to
move
this
process
forward.
The
point
of
the
petition
was
not
simply
to
demonstrate
support.
It
was
to
put
forward
a
tangible
solution
that
could
bring
together
many
individuals
and
groups
in
our
city.
L
You
know,
I
I
do
want
to
point
out
I'm
doing
everything.
I
can
to
move
this
process
forward.
You
know
just
to
kind
of
pull
back
the
curtain
a
little
looking
at
how
the
process
is
gone.
Just
reading
between
the
lines,
you
know
to
be
honest,
I
think
the
most
the
way
I
can
was
to
help
out
today
is
by
calling
out
the
reality
of
the
situation.
L
That's
that
our
Police
Department
is
not
ready
to
move
forward
with
data
transparency,
and
that's
that's
just
the
reality
of
it
and
that's
not
what
I'm,
where
I
want
us
to
be
I,
think
we
can
get
past
that,
but
that's
where
we
are
that's
why
the
process
shifts
every
meeting.
That's
what
and
it's
it's
incredibly
frustrating
I.
L
L
Think
it's
malicious
I
think
open
data
efforts,
police
state
efforts
can
be
scary.
It
seems
like
a
lot
can
go
wrong
and
that's
why
I
think
it's
important
for
the
community
and
council
to
show
our
Police
Department
the
way
we
can
do
this.
The
way
we
can
do
it
responsibly.
I
would
definitely
welcome
the
clear
statement
from
APD
to
prove
me
wrong.
All
we
need
to
hear
is
a
commitment
to
release
each
of
the
data
sets.
Y
B
Y
L
Very
straightforward,
I
find
it
we've
been
at
this
for
a
while
already
you
know
and
I
hear
over
and
over
there's
no
issues
with
doing
the
data
sets
with
making
those
available
the
city's
committed
to
transparency,
but
then
even
this
process,
even
the
staff
report
is
done
in
a
non
transparent
way.
If
our
city
is
ready
to
be
transparent.
Why
are
all
the
concerns
that
have
been
identified
that
the
council
members
know
about
that
staff
know
about?
Why
aren't
they
documented
I
mean
there's?
L
It
doesn't
seem
right
that
we
can't
just
break
this
down
or
we
can
say
the
end
goal.
Is
we're
gonna
put
them
out
there
and
it's
about
the
details,
but
I
just
I
really
don't
know
what
to
go
here.
Why
our
public
records
request,
for
you
supports
data
taking
two
months
and
then
there's
still
not
fulfill?
C
B
L
In
my
opinion,
is
making
this
more
complicated
than
it
needs
to
be
we're
putting
more
effort
into
obstructing
the
process
than
it
would
take
to
release
the
data?
That's
why
I
feel
the
need
to
be
honest
with
Council.
It's
on
all
of
you
to
make
this
right.
It
is
on
all
of
you
to
give
us
a
process
for
open
data
evaluation.
That
makes
sense.
We
cannot
let
looking
at
the
proposed
process.
L
L
We
have
seen
city
staff,
look
at
other
cities
in
North,
Carolina
and
say
well,
none
of
them
are
releasing
this
data,
so
we're
not
going
to
do
it
here.
I
can
tell
you
without
putting
a
lot
of
time
into
it,
that
there
are
not
a
lot
of
cities
in
our
state
that
already
put
out
all
the
data
sets
were
requesting.
L
A
I,
don't
want
to
I,
don't
want
to
cut
you
off
here,
but
I
feel
like
you're
kind
of
I,
think
we're
saying
yes
and
we're
we're
in
agreement
with
the
five
final
data
sets
that
haven't
been
released.
The
others
have,
or
will
be
very
shortly
and
we're
very
supportive
of
this
council
very
supportive
of
moving
ahead
with
that,
and
we,
we
I,
think
what
you're
hearing
tonight
is.
Staff
is
eager
to
engage
with
you
to
and
and
others
that
can
come
to
the
table,
to
try
to
make
this
a
reality.
A
L
I'm
not
trying
to
be
dramatic
or
overly
forceful,
but
I,
don't
know
if
many
members
of
council
have
been
on
this
side
trying
to
push
a
proposal
through,
but
I've
done
this
a
few
times
that
I've
seen
how
these
things
go
wrong
and
I've
seen
what
a
process
comes
out.
It
says
best
practices,
it
says:
staff
we're
gonna
have
the
final
say:
I
know
what
that
means.
I
know
where
we're
gonna
get
and.
L
Just
really
I
mean
I
I'm
gonna
get
to
the
point,
but
really
to
boil
it
down.
Council
needs
to
say
really
clearly
these
datasets
have
to
come
out.
That's
been
said,
but
I
just
think
I
don't
know
if
it
needs
a
vote
or
something
like
that,
because
otherwise
we're
gonna
spend
months
doing
this
and
APD
is
gonna,
say
we
don't
want
to
release
something.
We.
AM
They
were
saying
that,
but
I
think
what
you're
revealing
is
something
that
we
need
to
hear.
I
think
what
he's
revealing
is
what
his
experience
has
been
as
a
person
who's
very
dedicated
to
21st
century
policing
and
his
engagement
with
staff,
members
and
I
think
it's
very
important
that
he's
telling
a
story
that
we
don't
often
see,
and
we
don't
often
want
to
hear
so
I
would
like
to.
AM
We
can
kind
of
rectify,
with
staff
relationships
departmentally
and
with
our
community
members,
so
III
apart,
which
you
have
shared
here
today,
I
know
this
has
been
a
long
process
with,
for
you
and
I
think
it
takes
a
lot
for
you
to
put
yourself
out
there
and
be
vulnerable
and
and
be
strong
and
courageous.
I,
don't
know
many
who
have
done
the
great
work
that
you
have
done.
Thank
you
and.
L
A
B
L
So
you
know
clearly
we
need
community
members
in
the
room
from
the
start.
Talking
with
staff,
we
don't
need
a
staff
assessment
and
community
engagement,
I'm
I'm
happy
to
sit
with
staff
when
we
can
sort
this
out
a
lot
a
lot
more
quickly
if
we're
all
in
the
room
together.
What
I
do
think
is
that
it's
important
that
we
document
concerns.
We
need
staff
to
document
what
they
see
as
a
challenge.
Ways
we
can
fix
in
the
community
to
document
what
we
why
we
think
we
should
move
forward,
which
is
what
we've
done.
L
Good
rationale
is
done
and
also
this
report
that
allows
council
to
play
an
important
role.
They
council
needs
to
make
the
final
decision
on
the
release
of
a
tedious
data
set,
and
the
report
I
described,
provides
all
the
information
they
need
to
make.
That
decision.
There's
gonna
be
times
when
we're
gonna
disagree,
I
mean
it's,
it's
gonna
happen
and
we
need
a
mechanism
to
embrace
and
deal
with
that
conflict,
not
to
pretend
that
it
doesn't
exist
and
also
you
know,
I've
been
in
meetings
with
12
staff
members
and
just
me,
I've
had
some
bad
experiences.
L
You
know
the
way
this
process
is
unfolded
has
led
me
to
believe
that
we
need
some
additional
action
from
Council
in
addition
to
moving
forward
with
these
data
sets,
our
open
data
policy
has
helped
us
greatly
to
get
to
this
point.
At
the
same
time,
I
think
the
council
in
the
public
believe
that
our
open
data
policy
means,
if
something's
a
public
record
and
want
this,
is
a
data
set
we'll
do
what
it
takes
to
do
it
responsibly,
but
it'll
get
released.
L
I
do
not
believe
that
all
city
departments
have
that
same
interpretation
and
I
think
we
could
fix
this
issue
now
and
in
the
future,
by
changing
the
open
data
policy
to
make
that
clear,
I
also
think
we
should
set
a
timeline.
We
should
say
30
days
to
hear
a
response
on
any
data
set
that
comes
forward
in
the
future.
You
know
with
all
that
being
said.
These
are
pretty
simple
revisions.
We
can
make
this
process
work.
I
do
think
the
open
data
policy
should
be
enhanced,
but
in
the
context
of
code
for
Asheville's
proposal.
L
Let's
move
this
forward
as
quickly
as
possible.
The
direction
at
the
last
meeting
was
not
clear
enough.
In
my
opinion,
I
think
the
community
I
would
greatly
appreciate
just
really
clear
direction
from
Council
today
you
know
we're
a
city
with
a
lot
of
transition
happening
and
being
more
clear,
is
not
a
bad
thing
at
this
point.
L
T
Can
I
address
with
with
heartfelt
I,
want
I
want
to
address
some
of
the
concerns
around
this,
which
I
think
speak
to
trust
and
also
speak
to
the
fact
that
we
we
don't
have
the
ability
to
have
people
assigned
to
do
this
24.
You
know
the
full
40
hours
of
their
workweek,
so
so
I
need
to
speak
up
and
say
that
from
the
time
that
this
from
from
the
date
that
it
came
forward
at
public
safety,
I
want
to
make
sure
that
council
understands
that
staff
has
been
committed
to
trying
to
get
to
this
point.
T
I
also
think
that
that
I
need
to
say
that
the
chief
is
committed
to
getting
here
to.
She
has
said
that
that
she
wants
to
work
with
the
community.
She
wants
to
make
this
happen
we
have
to,
as
in
the
role
that
we
said
in,
do
this
responsibly,
so
that
we
don't
end
up
getting
sued.
We
don't
end
up
having
issues
and
I
know.
That's
not
popular
I
know
that
there's
not
fingers
clapping
I,
understand
that
and
and
and
I'm
okay
with
that.
T
What
we
we
have
committed
to
do
is
to
work
with
this
group
and
to
build
trust
and
to
get
to
the
point
we
want
to
I.
Do
not
want
city
staff
to
be
viewed
any
of
city
staff
to
be
viewed
as
trying
to
be
obstructionist
in
this
process,
because
we
are
not
I
will
assure
you
that
everybody
is
trying
to
at
the
table
get
to
the
point
where
we're
working
together
it
is
it
is.
We
have
reached
out.
T
We
are
trying
to
get
our
hands
around
this
and
I
need
to
make
sure
that
council
understands
that
we're
doing
it
responsibly
and
we're
trying
to
do
it
reasonably
to
protect
all
of
our
citizens.
There's
no
agenda
other
than
to
do
that,
and
we
want
transparency.
We've
heard
from
you
all,
and
we
are
hearing
that
from
you
all
continually,
but
I
felt
remiss
and
not
being
able
to
clearly
say
that
we
do
have
the
police
department
on
board
they.
You
know
a
lot
of
folks
have
other
jobs,
I.
T
A
AM
This
one
along
the
nails,
he
said
something
very
important.
He
said
a
lot
of
times.
He
was
the
only
community
member
in
the
room,
a
group
of
12
staff,
members
and
I
believe
that's
an
opportunity
for
someone
that
is
on
the
public
safety
committee
to
be
in
that
rowing
to
show
support.
We
need
somebody
to
be
the
equalizer
I'm.
AM
We
would
put
all
of
our
eggs
in
a
basket
so
with
this
matter,
because
we
have
gained
national
attention
because
people
feel
unsafe,
because,
because
of
public
trust
and
police
officers
can
is
really
eroding
daily,
even
with
this
process,
we
need
to
understand
in
order
for
us
to
build
trust,
we
need
to
move
what
I'll
do.
Let
me
see.
A
P
P
A
And
I
think
what
we're
talking
about
it
in
our
next
meeting
is
of
the
debt
data
sets
that
have
been
requested.
There
are
several
that
are
already
going
to
be
pushed
out,
but
the
five
remaining
are
the
ones
we're
talking
about
now.
So
we're
gonna
hear
about
the
status
of
this
okay.
We
have
one
item
of
new
business.
A
resolution
regarding
the
citizen,
police,
Advisory,
Committee
and
Sarah
to
Williger
is
here
to
present
this
item
to
council.
AV
Good
afternoon
Aaron,
council
members,
my
name
is
Sierra
liquor
and
the
deputy
clerk,
and
also
the
boards
and
commissions
manager
and
I'm
here
before
you
tonight,
to
talk
to
you
briefly
about
the
citizens.
Police
advisory
committee
provide
you
with
some
background
and
some
reasonings
that
you
may
consider
dissolving
this
committee
to
start
at
the
beginning,
the
citizens
police
advisory
board,
often
referred
to
as
CPAC,
was
first
established
in
1991
by
Resolution
9
91
67.
AV
One
of
the
primary
functions
of
this
committee
was
to
serve
and
is
to
serve
as
a
liaison
between
the
police
department
and
the
community
regarding
concerns
and
policing
concerns
through
this
process
in
several
years
of
monthly
meetings.
It
is
virtually
a
significant
community
concerns
regarding
structural
racism.
As
a
result,
council
about
this
time
last
year
created
the
blue-ribbon
committee
to
make
recommendations
and
research
best
practices
for
a
new
committee,
the
Human
Relations
Commission's
as
I'm
sure
you
recall
just
last
month
on
April
10th,
the
Human
Relations
Commission
of
Asheville
or
the
HRC.
AV
This
includes
a
forum
in
which
citizens
can
raise
and
bring
concerns
regarding
human
relations
before
the
committee,
in
addition
and
on
the
community
relations
and
the
police
department
is
continuing
to
partner
with
neighborhood
groups
host
and
contribute
to
community
events
and
has
designated
community
liaisons
to
various
community
groups
all
to
provide
a
more
direct
community
engagement
opportunities
with
the
police
department.
A
complete
list
of
these
opportunities
events
and
meetings
will
be
put
I'm.
Sorry,
it
has
been
attached
to
the
your
proposed
resolution
and,
as
of
course,
was
attached
in
your
packet
for
review.
AV
All
of
these
meetings.
Events
and
opportunities
will
also
be
posted
on
the
city's
master
calendar,
which
is
on
the
city's
main
page
and
we
pushed
out
or
advertised
through
or
the
various
social
media
outlets,
including
the
neighbourhood
networks
and
coordination
and
collaboration
with
the
neighbourhood
and
Community
Engagement
Manager.
AV
So,
given
these
two
major
initiatives,
the
new
HRC
board
to
advance
human
relations
and
the
police
department's
community
engagement
program
to
provide
for
more
direct
community
engagement,
opportunities,
Council
and
also
I,
should
add.
The
proposed
bill
that
the
mayor
mentioned
regarding
the
citizens
review
committee.
That
council
may
consider
dissolving
the
Citizens
Police
advisory
committee.
AB
AM
B
AM
Ac
is
going
to
take
up
these
community
concerns
and
I
believe
that
in
is
new
formation.
I
think
that
is
a
bad
idea.
I
believe
that
CPAC
should
stay
in
place
to
kind
of
be
an
intermediary
come
committee
to
hear
public
safety
concerns,
because
right
now
we
see
that
public
safety
in
our
community
has
been
a
top
issue.
If
we
break.
AM
AM
Look
at
the
the
five
positions
that
are
open
staff,
those
positions
with
high
level
volunteers
and
have
CPAC
the
maybe
like
a
subcommittee
to
the
Human
Relations
Committee
I.
Think
that
would
be
a
tremendous
support.
I,
don't
think
it's
operated
and
its
function
because
honestly,
I,
don't
believe
is
really
had
the
support.
So
right
now,
I
will
caution
us.
Surely.
A
A
P
I
thought
on
this
is
one
of
timing.
Ears
by
our
perspective,
is
there's
a
lot
of
moving
parts
over
here
and
I
kind
of
understand
that
the
overall
goal
and
believe
you
know
I
want
you.
It
was
mystifying
with
kind
of
streamlined
and
things
I'm.
You
know
I've
you.
This
issue
is
kind
of
more
of
a
transition
issue.
N
N
We
have
it
here
on
this
on
this
agenda.
We've
talked
about
it
several
times
before
over
the
over
the
months,
thus
the
freezing
of
positions
going
on
the
CPAC.
So
it's
not
something
that
we've.
It's
not
a
decision
to
even
put
it
to
this
point
that
we've
made
willy
nilly
we've
taken.
Some
time
to
do
that
and
and
and
and
watch
the
CPAC
and
watched
how
it
operated.
AM
Well
thing
before
now,
maybe
looking
at
early
2017
I
would
have
been
all
for
it,
but
but
right
now,
I
just
think
it's
a
bad
idea.
I
think
it
takes
some
time
and
some
thought
and
I've
put
thought
into
it
and
actually
belief
that
when
once
we
figure
out
the
members
on
HRC
a
so
hard
to
say,
HRC,
a
I
believe
that
we
should
have
two
individuals
from
that
committee
serves
as
an
unloading
being
fond
on
CPAC,
so
that
we
have
that
continuity
of
care
and
botanist.
A
N
AW
Good
evening
I'm
Carol,
Ryoga
Foster
and
some
of
you
know,
I
completed
to
term
as
member
of
CPAC
share
the
frustrations
appreciate
the
potential
I
do
think
it
is
an
unusual
time
to
consider
dissolving
CPAP
when
we
are
not
yet
at
a
point
where
we
have
stood
up.
A
human
relations,
commission
and
I
think
there's
some
uncertainty
with
regard
to
the
scope
that
that
Commission
will
have
I
also
would
like
some
clarification.
AW
I
took
the
occasion
to
talk
with
of
mr.
on
a
little
the
chair
of
the
blue-ribbon
committee
with
regard
to
the
scope
of
of
the
human
relations
commission,
and
it
was
my
understanding
from
that
conversation
that
the
blue-ribbon
committee
did
not
support
the
dissolution
of
seatback
at
the
Blue
Ribbon
committee.
AW
AU
My
name
is
Michael
beech
I
live
in
Oakley
I've
been
observing
the
CPAC
for
the
past,
two-and-a-half
years
for
the
Unitarian
Universalist
congregation
of
Asheville
as
part
of
our
commitment
to
support
black
lives
matter.
I
provide
written
report
each
month,
so
I've
been
at
this
meeting.
When
there
was
one
other
person
in
the
audience
and
I've
been
there.
O
O
AU
And
I've
been
there
when
they
were
far
more
like
the
March
meeting
at
the
Grand
Center.
In
my
opinion,
this
committee
was
misidentified
as
a
public.
As
the
start,
it
is
not
a
committee
to
advise
the
APD.
It
is
a
committee
to
pass
two
council
recommendations
for
council
action.
A
few
actual
reservation,
brett-brett
resolutions
move
to
the
council
in
the
two
and
a
half
years
that
I
have
attended.
This
difference
was
not
regularly
clarified
and
thus
led
to
confusion
as
to
the
potential
outcome
and
effectiveness
of
any
discussion
at
the
meeting.
AU
There
are
always
been
apd
command
officers
and
duty
officers
setting
in
the
meeting,
and
they
have
taken
notes
and
responded
to
individual
reports,
comments
and
requests
and
have
apparently
not
responded
to
some.
My
experience
with
an
issue
of
random
gunshots
near
my
neighborhood
was
swiftly
acted
upon
and
yet
other
requests
regarding
safe
communities
have
gone
without
illusion.
They
have,
however,
presented
an
opportunity
for
the
community
to
speak
very
openly
directly
and
honestly
about
issues
related
to
policing.
Sometimes
this
is
quiet
and
thoughtful,
and
at
other
times
it's
loud
full
of
pain,
fury
and
anger.
AU
I
know
it's
been
difficult
for
each
officer
present
to
hear,
but
it
is
extremely
important
that
the
community
have
a
forum
to
speak
directly
to
the
APD
and
express
their
anger
and
frustration.
Cpac
did
provide
a
forum
for
the
community
to
express
its
response
to
policing
in
the
community
to
support
some
efforts
and
expressed
dismay
and
anger
and
indignation
at
others.
Issues
of
policing
are
complex.
We
all
are
aware
of
that.
AU
For
instance,
when
does
adding
extra
patrols
to
a
neighborhood
where
there
are
shootings
become
over
policing
and
who
decides
what
that
is
and
when
my
concern
is
disbanding
the
CPAC
before
the
human
relations
committee
is
in
place,
is
a
tremendous
error.
The
HRC
is
not
staffed,
it
has
not
met,
it
has
not
organized.
It
has
not
established
practices
and
guidelines.
It
may
not
have
any
clear
idea
of
the
scope
of
any
actual
power
that
they
may
or
likely
do
not
have.
AX
Next
week
the
multimodal
Commission
will
be
reviewing
our
new
transit
master
plan
and
deciding
whether
to
recommend
that
up
to
Council
there
are
only
two
people
of
the
multimodal
Commission
who
are
deep
in
the
details
of
our
transit
system.
The
other
members
of
that
Commission
are
there
to
represent
the
concerns
of
greenways
bicycles
and
pedestrians.
AX
As
a
body,
they
would
not
be
qualified
to
make
decisions
about
transit
if
they
weren't
working
with
recommendations
that
come
from
the
transit
committee,
which
has
which
is
narrowly
focused
on
our
bus
system
and
has
a
deep
and
thorough
knowledge
of
our
transit
needs.
The
HRC
a
is
going
to
have
a
very
broad
scope.
It
needs
a
broad
scope
that
same
broadness
is
going
to
prevent
it
from
developing
a
deep
and
thorough
knowledge
of
policing
issues.
AX
A
few
members,
if
we're
lucky,
might
have
that
knowledge,
but
as
a
body
as
a
whole,
they
will
not
be
able
to
develop
that
expertise
unless
they
choose
to
neglect
other
areas
of
their
scope
and
just
because
the
policing
is
the
issue,
that's
in
the
media.
Right
now
we
shouldn't
let
that
fool
us
into
thinking.
It's
the
only
issue
that
matters
when
the
multimodal
Commission
was
created.
Council
didn't
eliminate
the
transit
committee;
they
folded
it
under
the
multimodal
Commission,
that's
what
you
should
be
doing
with
HRC
a
and
C
pack.
AX
A
AY
No
I'm
Ashley
Cooper
I
just
want
to
encourage
that.
We
look
at
what's
happened
already
in
the
past,
so
the
blue-ribbon
committee
was
started
when
it
got
started.
It
took
a
while
I've
sat
in
all
of
those
public
meetings.
I
was
a
public
with
a
tender
it
took
a
while
for
the
formation
of
the
committee
to
start
you
lost
the
chair
of
it,
because
the
work
was
overwhelming.
The
amount
that
was
asked
of
that
committee
was
so
large
and
to
figure
out
how
to
manage
a
group
that
had
never
worked
together.
AY
Lúcia
had
to
drop
off
from
her
role,
so
we're
gonna
repeat
that
with
the
HRC
a
it
has
never
existed
before
the
how
it
will
function,
how
this
group
will
form
Team
Dynamics
to
actually
accomplish
an
extremely
complex
charge
so
that
they
have
so
I
highly
discourage
from
dissolving
CPAC
keep
it
in
place
until
things
are
created
with
the
HRC
a-and,
we
see
if
it
even
fits
under
there.
I
also
think
that
a
lot
of
the
justification
for
dissolving
it
is
about
all
the
APD
is
doing
that's.
AY
Building
trust
with
the
community
and
I
think
we
heard
really
well
today
from
the
Kaler
students.
They
came
up
here
and
they
spoke
and
numbers
of
them
mentioned
how
helpful
and
supported
and
the
concrete
things
that
Erica
has
done
to
build
trust
with
them.
It
wasn't
Erica
coming
up
here,
saying:
I'm,
trustworthy
and
I.
Do
this
and
I
do
this
and
I
do
this
and
that's
what
proves
that
I'm,
trustworthy
and
that's
what
I
feel
like
we're
hearing
is
that
APD
is
doing
this
this
this
and
this.
AY
So
therefore
they're
doing
community
engagement,
that's
effective
and
it's
not
effective
unless
the
people
who
are
impacted
and
let
those
students
say
we
feel
safe
with
these
police
department,
because
they're
doing
this
this
and
this,
then
we
know
it's
effective.
So,
let's
have
like
some
real
community
partnerships:
let's
build
CPAC
in
a
way
that
it
can
actually
function
and
let's
not
set
the
HRC
up
for
a
total
disaster.
If
we
have
another
major
incident
that
happens
with
the
police
and
HR
CA
is
just
trying
to
get
started.
AZ
Hello,
everybody
on
Carmen,
Ramos,
Kennedy,
president,
the
Asheville,
Blanca
branch,
n-double-a-cp
and
I
just
want
to
say
something
short
and
sweet.
Having
served
on
a
city
committee,
it
took
us
a
full
year,
a
new
committee.
It
took
us
a
full
year
to
get
our
legs
under
us.
So
bear
that
in
mind.
We
need
the
transition
of
CPAC
in
place.
Please
do
that.
Thank
you.
BA
Americans
money
from
their
lands
president
for
an
order
please
and
I
rise
tonight,
and
support
a
keepin
CPAC
I've,
been
to
numerous
meetings,
I've
seen
the
staff
that
they
have.
That
represents
our
community.
Yes,
at
times
it
can
get
hectic.
Yes
at
times
it
can
be
kind
of
confusion,
but
so
can
attend
a
lot
of
City
Council
meetings
at
times
so
consider
council
meetings,
but
the
job
that
they
do.
BA
We
often
disagree,
but
at
least
as
the
colonel
or
at
least
present
I
have
an
avenue
to
go
to
view
our
side
and
I.
Listen
to
the
other
side.
I've
been
amazed
at
the
job
that
they've
done
in
the
past,
and
I've
made
some
friends
there,
but
I've
going
to
those
meetings
and
met.
People
who
may
be
on
opposite
ends
a
thought
that
we
talked
there's
a
lot
of
people
here,
not
several
of
me
in
our
audience
tonight
that
without
CPAC
I
would
have
never
met.
BA
We've
never
been
able
to
have
conversation
with
so
CPAC
has
performed
a
great
service.
I
think
for
our
community
and
I
agreed
that
it
should
stay
in
place
until
we
can
see
how
the
HRC
a
set
up,
how
it
is
functioning
I
think,
would
be
damage
to
our
city
to
the
forces
that
are
here
tonight,
even
though
we
may
disagree
but
be
able
to
be
the
engine
to
take
that
away
at
this
time
to
HRC
a
has
set
up
a
fully
functional.
Thank
you.
L
Hi,
my
name
is
patrick
cohn,
and
I
was
on
the
city's
blue-ribbon
committee
that
helped
propose.
The
recommendation
is
for
the
HRC,
a
and
I
do
want
to
confirm
just
for
clarity
that
we
did
discuss
CPAC
and
we
made
a
clear
decision
not
to
make
a
recommendation
in
one
way
or
another.
Our
discussions
really
did
feel
that
centered
around
the
idea
that,
if
CPAC
stayed
in
place,
while
the
HRC
got
started,
that
would
avoid
overwhelming
the
HRC
a
by
taking
on
too
many
roles
at
once.
L
We
felt
that,
although
CPAC
has
had
its
challenges,
it
does
serve
a
role,
that's
important
in
our
community.
If
we
take
that
away
before
the
HRC
a
is
functioning
properly.
If
it
really
worries
me
about
what
happens,
if
something
else
goes
wrong
in
our
city,
I
mean:
where
are
people
going
to
voice
their
frustration?
Cpac
might
not
solve
the
problem,
but
it
did
have
provided
people
with
a
forum
where
they
could
make
their
feelings
down,
and
that
was
very
important.
AE
Hello,
I'm
Luke
from
buck
I
just
wanted
to
add
a
brief
thing
to
what
community
members
have
already
said.
I
think
it
sets
a
really
dangerous
makes
a
dangerous
statement
when
we're
saying
to
the
community
at
the
very
first
CPAC
meeting
after
the
big
meeting
at
the
Grand
Senate
after
the
rush
incident,
that
they
were
dissolving
the
committee.
So
you
know
that
was
the
meeting
at
the
grant
Center
at
March,
then
April.
The
meeting
didn't
take
place
and.
AG
AE
Next
time,
the
committee
convenes
we're
telling
the
community
that
we're
not
gonna
have
this
anymore,
so
I
just
think
that
that
is
like
sending
the
wrong
message
in
this
moment
of
trying
to
build
community
trust.
Also
I
like
what
has
been
said
about
some
overlap,
potentially
in
this
transition
phase
between
CPAC
and
the
Human
Relations,
Committee
and
I
hope
that
we're
being
really
mindful
about
which
CPAC
members,
we
think,
really
embody
these
values
of
the
HRC
and
making
sure
that
those
individuals
are
the
ones
that
are
doing
that
interfacing.
Alright.
Thank
you.
C
C
AO
AO
Let
me
also
say
that
I
see
how
you
can
go
to
Raleigh
and
expect
the
delegation,
the
General
Assembly,
to
pass
something
that
you
don't
believe
in
here
in
Asheville,
like
low
cost,
no
cost
initiatives
like
a
written
consent.
You
had
we've
had
these
things
for
months
within
man's
the
curator
of
the
traffic
stop
data,
let.
AC
AO
That,
if
you
look
at
your
website-
and
you
look
at
the
Police
Department's
website,
the
Chiefs
page,
normally
that
the
traffic
stop
data
is
not
appropriately
reported.
There's
a
mechanism
that
a
professor
woman,
whose
name
eludes
me
now,
but
works
at
North,
Carolina
Central,
that
a
lot
of
cities
and
police
departments
have
contracted
and
what
she
does.
Is
she
utilizes
not
so
what
we
call
census
tracks,
but
designated
areas
like
and
I.
AO
AO
O
AO
Profiling
data,
what
they
call
hot
spots.
We
also
add
some
information
that
was
inputted
into
that
to
impute
bones,
as
big
rationale
for
over
policing.
You
got
a
fairly
dangerous
situation
here.
In
actual
that's
going
on
right
now
and
I
understand
that
the
city
should
be
concerned,
I
am
concerned,
this
is
a
dangerous
place
to
live,
we've
got
data
and
we
are
collecting
data
right
now.
AO
That
shows
us
that,
in
two
of
the
four
areas
that
are
the
social
determinants
of
health
and
number
one
traffic
stops
where
we
were
racially
profiled
in
there,
a
national
valuation
Police
Department
more
than
any
common
police
side
city
in
North
Carolina
as
a
first
quarter,
2018
worst
traffic
statistics
that
have
ever
been
done
since
inception.
They
need
to
know
they.
The
second
thing
is
our
Ashley
city
school
system,
of
which
she'd
not
name
folks
for
the
school
board
that
youth
performing
at
the
worst
level
of
any
youth
in
North
Carolina.
AO
AO
Just
appreciate
that
we've
been
working
really
hard
and
I
know
you
know.
Sometimes
you
think
that
folks
who
are
locals,
and
especially
folks
of
color,
who
may
not
be
regarded
as
naive
as
others
who
are
not
regarded
as
important,
don't
see
what's
going
on,
though
we
do
we
do
and
what
I
caution
you
to
do
is
just
to
be
truthful.
Shiny
objects
like
sending
a
package
of
items,
so
the
Legislature.
J
AO
Young
faces
I
was
downstairs
and
overflow
I
drove
back
from
them
from
Greenville
Spartanburg
this
afternoon
and
got
here
later
and
I
saw
those
young
people
and
I
said
it
won't
be
to
God
if
they
come
back
here
after
college
and
I
just
hope
that
they
don't
see
the
reticence
that
I've
seen
I'm
not
saying
that
city
staff
is
hard
to
deal
with,
but
certainly
any
organization
wants
from
the
top
down.
So
you're
gonna
have
to
leave
back
by.
AO
Are
and
I
understand,
you're
having
to
to
be
balanced
and
to
wait
things
out
and
to
talk
about
process,
but
just
throwing
one
shiny
thing
after
a
at
the
community
of
black
community
is
really
at
risk.
A
lot
of
y'all
don't
understand
this.
Do
you
enjoy
white
privilege?
So
you
don't
have
to
worry
about
this
I'm,
not
looking
for
anything
out
of
my
life.
I
work
for
myself,
so
I'm,
not
afraid
of
repercussions
from
wherever
I
say
to
do
so.
I
would
say
view
that's
time
to
speak
truth
to
power,
and
it's.
O
AO
Start
speaking
truthfully
as
well,
we
can't
live
here
like
this.
That
folks
cannot
be
a
grace
claim
just
because
of
the
way
they
look
and
I.
Don't
know
if
you
know
this,
but
those
of
you
who
don't
know
you're
police
forces
tactics
that
come
from
slave
patrols.
That
is
why
we
were
looking
at
21st
century
policing.
So
you
need
to
get
real
about.
AO
What's
going
on
in
this
city,
I've
lived
you
all
of
my
life,
and
let
me
say
this:
this
police
department
has
been
virtually
run
the
same
way
from
when
I
was
a
youngster
growing
up
until
the
way
it
is
now
I
understand
it
is
in
here
in
danger
and
that
these
people
are
fraternal
eyes
or
they
stick
together.
There's
nothing
wrong
there,
but
there
should
be
Gardens
and
not
warriors.
AO
That's
my
Clinton
Miller
on
one,
the
sheriff's
race,
because
he
proposed
21st
century
policing
and
he's
on
their
police
force
right
now
and
a
lot
of
them
don't
walk
that
and
I
know
that
I
also
want
to
just
say
this:
if
it
had
not
been
for
start
gods
who
who's
been
terminated
and
by
the
way
I
did
hear
from
you,
he
called
toe.
He
was
terminated
and
let
me
just
say
that
the
way
he
was
described
in
the
newspaper
I
don't
know
such
meaning.
AO
I
know
no
such
man
I
know
when
I
went
close
and
occupy
the
police
department.
He
was
the
one
who
volunteered
to
come
and
save
and
to
broker
the
situation
to
facilitate
that's
neither
here
nor
there.
But
you
need
to
understand
that
this
man
is
an
educated
man,
passionate
man
and
I
really
believe
he
was
fired
for
a
retaliation.
You
have
what
we
call
whistleblower
protection,
but
if
he's
gotten
fired
you
don't
have
anything
at
all.
You
have
something
on
paper.
AO
AO
Stopped
believing
and
I
guess
we
just
go
through
the
motions.
I
saw
these
young
people
up
here
today
and
it
kind
of
made
me
jealous
I
wish
I
was
like
that
and
we
shall
really
have
the
innocence
and
I
really
believed
that
we
would
do
the
right
thing,
but
I
know
that
people
act
out
powerful,
mighty
power,
and
let
me
say
this:
there's
nothing
worth
sacrificing
your
integrity
for
I
haven't
found
it
yet
and
I've
been
made
a
lot
of
offers.
Okay,.
AO
AO
AO
AO
Ways
that
we
put
the
EMS
put
forward
months
ago,
written
consent
must
ago,
until
you
get
21st
century
policing,
just
because
there's
an
LLC
named
21st
century
policing.
Unless
it
comes
from
the
Justice
Department
itself,
I
always
write
my
contracts
to
satisfy
me.
There
is
no
more
than
a
contract
that
your
right
priority
you
to
get
help
from
the
Justice
Department.
The
FBI
has
gotten
involved
with
the
APD,
because
mr.
AO
Rogers
civil
rights
were
violated
and
I'm
pretty
sure
so,
I
wouldn't
mind
you
to
take
advantage,
because
there's
also
incentive
funds
for
training,
and
this
is
what
I've
talked
about
with
Stoney
God's.
It
wasn't
well
received,
but
in
any
rate
I
would
admonish
each
and
every
one
of
you
to
stop
listening.
AO
You
know
the
definition
of
insanity
is
to
keep
doing
the
same
things
over
and
over
again,
some
of
us
may
be
not
as
what
not
quite
as
palpable
as
others,
but
some
of
us
have
ideas
and
some
real
solutions
that
work
and
one
of
the
things
that
I've
noticed
is
that
we
have
a
failure
to
benchmark
anything
that
we
do
and
that's
what's
wrong
with
CPAP
anytime
you
Commission
committing
you
give.
It
goes
objective,
intangible
benchmarks
there
were
never
properly
commissioned
and
they
were
never
properly
held
accountable.
AO
C
BB
Since
there
are
four
of
our
eight
voting
members
on
our
greenways
and
I
would
get
an
earful
about
how
to
make
wise
decisions
and
how
to
be
informed.
So
I
know
where
to
go.
If
I
want
to
preserve
an
old
tree
in
the
city,
I
know
where
I
need
to
go.
If
I'm
gonna
discuss,
transit,
I
know
where
I
need
to
go.
If
I
would
ask,
but
before
discuss,
affordable
housing,
but
where
are
we
gonna
go
to
say
something
good
or
bad,
or
to
bring
ideas
forward?
I'm,
just
gonna
just
suggest
this.
A
Anybody
else,
okay
counsel.
We
we
have
a
motion
in
a
second
and
we've
heard
a
lot
of
comments
about
it.
I
would
just
offer
and
I
know.
Keith
I
think
you're
preparing
to
withdraw
your
motion,
but
I
think
the
vision
as
I
understand.
It
would
be
that
eventually,
a
citizen
review
committee
would
be
subcommittee
of
the
Human
Relations
Commission,
but
that
would
be
determined
by
the
human
relationship.
Commissioners,
I
think
that
point
is
well
made
and
that
that
is
a
model
that
Greensboro
uses.
A
For
example,
they
have
a
Human
Relations
Commission
and
they
have
a
citizen
review
committee
that
has
a
little
more
teeth
than
then
ours
does
unfortunately
right
now,
so
so
so
some
of
this
legislation
is
aimed
at
getting
us
a
little
closer
to
that.
Actually
it
would
surpass
that
that
model
if
it
were
to
all
come
to
fruition,
so
it
you
want
to
make
a
you
want
to
go
ahead,
all
right,
pleasure
weathera.
So
we
do
have
a
challenge
because
we've
got
of
the
nine
members
of
CPAC
by
the
end
of
June.
A
We
will
only
have
three
remaining
and
of
the
three
one
is
not
able
to
attend
on
a
regular
basis.
So
that
gives
us
two
two
very
dedicated
CPAC
members.
So
we
will
will
need
to
go
back
to
boards
and
commissions
and
it
and
come
up
with
a
plan
I
guess,
but
but
it
will
involve
advertising
for
the
vacant
positions
on
CPAC.
A
N
How
would
you
say
that
you
know
it's
always
good
to
hear
from
from
community
members,
especially
when
it
comes
to
something
like
this,
because
this
is
something
that
we
have
been
wrestling
with
for
quite
a
bit
of
time
and
an
indictment.
It
wasn't
even
necessarily
and
a
hundred
percent
go
I.
Think
I
think
it
was
more
one
of
those,
let's
put
it
out
there
and
see,
but
we
have
an
opportunity
when
we
go
back
to
boards
and
commissions
that
we've
heard
that
you
know,
maybe
we
and
this
transitional
period.
N
We
can
have
those
conversations
on
how
to
make
this
the
best
possible
entity
that
we
can
and
during
this
transitional
period
and
and
what
we
can
do
to
make
it
as
successful
as
possible
as
we
move
forward
with
HRC
and
the
proposed
legislation
that
will
hopefully
go
to
the
General
Assembly.
So
those
are
some
things
that
we
can
be
thinking
about
and,
of
course
we
still
have
to
advertise
and
get
some
more
members,
but
we
just
need
a
quorum.
N
So
we've
got
a
lot
to
work
on,
but
we
can
do
it
and
I
think
we'll
be
dedicated
to
it,
and
we
hope
that
that
the
members
of
the
community
will
continue
to
contact
us
and
reach
out
to
us
and
pull
us
aside
and
say:
hey.
You
know,
I
think
this
might
be
a
good,
a
good
idea
for
this
board
to
do
XY
and
Z
in
this
transitional
period.
So
look
forward
to
to
moving
that
one
down
the
road
and
figuring
it
out.
A
Any
other
comments
from
Council
okay,
so
we
don't
need
a
vote
because
we
don't
have
a
motion
for
the
Commission
means
next
Tuesday,
okay,
okay,
that
include.
That
concludes
our
printed
agenda.
I,
have
a
number
of
people
signed
up
to
speak
so
I'm
just
gonna
go
through
those
in
order
and
if
we
already
covered
your
topic
or
whatever
the
case
may
be
feel
free
to
say
that.
A
A
C
BC
A
BC
Yeah,
we
didn't
have
a
go:
okay,
I'm!
Sorry,
thank
you
guys,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
I'm.
Also
a
member
of
cook
for
Asheville.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
for
your
ongoing
support.
This
petition
I
want
to
lend
my
voice
to
the
discussion
as
a
person
who's
been
participating
in
these
efforts
from
a
supporting
role.
BC
This
is
my
first
public
comment
ever
and
for
a
long
time
I've
been
watching
people
like
Patrick
Conan,
Dee,
Williams,
Ian,
Vance
and
Amy
Cantrell
come
to
this
podium
and
state
their
cases,
for
what
I
consider
to
be
a
very
common-sense
reform,
whether
these
reforms
came
in
the
form
of
policies
like
written
consent
or
an
increased
commitment
to
data
transparency.
One
things
were
inconsistent
from
my
observations.
BC
We
rely
very
heavily
on
what's
considered
best
practices
to
inform
our
decision-making
as
a
city
and
there's
nothing
wrong
with
this
term
in
business,
I
often
cite
best
practices
to
my
clients
as
justification
to
do
things
in
an
industry-standard
way.
It
offers
a
loose
form
of
insurance
for
my
decision-making
process.
Best.
BC
BC
Ashville
is
that
a
long
overdue
decision
point
where
we're
determining
what
our
future
holds
for
racial
equity
and
inclusion?
The
only
silver
lining
of
the
assault
on
Johnny
rush
is
that
it
exposed
the
profound
racial
disparities
that
our
town
experiences
the
comment
the
community
is
working
tirelessly
to
maximize
the
silver
lining,
with
the
help
of
groups
like
code
for
Asheville
and
others
who
supported
this
petition,
we're
working
to
extract
something
positive
out
of
one
of
them,
one
of
the
most
highly
publicized
police
incidents
to
come
out
of
Asheville.
BC
There
are
no
best
practices
for
how
to
fix
our
city's
racial
equity
problems
because
of
our
problems
are
unique.
The
only
thing
we
can
do
is
commit
to
innovation,
creativity
and
the
urge
to
try
new
things
to
build
equity.
We
need
to
listen
to
our
community
and
involve
them
in
the
process
to
make
our
police
department
more
transparent
and
accountable.
I
see
these
commitments
from
community
volunteers
and
leaders
and
I
urge
you
to
reciprocate.
BC
A
O
AE
You
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
tonight.
I'm
also
here
to
speak
in
support
of
code
for
Asheville's
petition
for
data
transparency,
student
I'm
also
concerned
and
agree
with
a
lot
of
what
patrick
said
in
his
comments
after
the
city's
presentation.
But
honestly,
I'm
optimistic
I
really
appreciated
a
lot
of
the
comments
that
were
made
by
some
of
you
all
and
I
feel
like
you
all
recognize
how
important
this
is,
and
the
community
recognizes
how
important
it
is.
Also,
like
patrick
said,
over
a
thousand
people
have
signed
the
code
for
Ashville
petitions,
so
just
for
context.
AE
BD
I'm
here,
to
give
you
a
little
information
about
the
Astra
Museum
of
Science
I
want
to
thank
mayor
and
city
council
for
giving
me
this
chance
to
speak.
Let
me
introduce
myself
I'm
Steven
Penske
I
am
professor
of
physics,
emeritus
from
Ohio
State,
University
I'm,
on
the
board
of
the
Astro
museum
of
science
and
vice
president,
along
the
way
I've
been
the
director
of
the
Ohio
Center
for
technology
and
science
when
I
was
at
Ohio
State.
More
recently,
I
was
president
of
the
Aspen
Science
Center.
BD
Let
me
give
you
a
little
history
of
how
I
got
into
this,
so
you
can
understand
how
important
this
is.
My
involvement
in
these
issues
goes
back
30
years
when
I
was
a
professor
at
Ohio,
State
and
I
was
working
with
a
colleague
of
mine,
Ken
Wilson
ken
has
a
Nobel
Prize
in
Physics
and
somebody
I
idolized,
and
he
had
a
deep
commitment
to
science,
education
and
he
said
simply
Steve.
We
can't
keep
doing
the
same
thing.
We've
been
doing
and
expect
different
results.
BD
Fortunately,
you
now
have
one
in
Asheville,
that's
been
around
now
for
about
two
years.
These
are
an
integral
part
of
how
we
go
about
teaching
signs
with
his
hands
on
inquiry
based
education,
we're
teaching
students
how
to
think
how
to
innovate,
how
to
be
creative.
These
are
the
basis
of
how
kids
learn
science,
and
we
have
a
lot
of
experience
on
how
these
kind
of
organizations
run
what
their
business
practices
are.
What
works,
what
doesn't
work,
what
we've
learned
from
talking
to
each
other?
BD
We
have
professional
meetings
that
I
go
to
on
a
regular
basis
is
that
it
requires
about
sitting.
We
can
only
count
on
about
60%
of
our
our
needs
to
come
from
our
earned
income.
We
need
about
a
third
from
other
sources
and
in
many
of
these
examples
across
the
country,
this
additional
these
additional
resources
come
in
the
sense
that
cities
and
local
governments
provide
the
buildings
and
the
home
for
these
museums.
This
is
a
very
common.
A
O
BD
The
other
places
where
they
don't
get,
this
kind
of
free
building
for
their
home
cities
and
local
governments
provide
resources
to
cover
approximately
that
amount
of
what's
needed
to
run
these
museums,
and
this
is
the
benchmark
that
we
need
to
set
here
in
Asheville
if
we're
going
to
have
a
successful
business.
This
is
a
business
like
any
other
business,
we're
selling
science.
We
have
customers,
we
run
a
building,
we
have
staff,
we
have
payrolls
if
we're
gonna
have
a
business,
a
new
business
succeed
and
you
all
know
what
the
the
risks
are
for
new
businesses.
BD
We
have
to
meet
these
and
I'll
use
the
phrase
best
practices
that
we
found
around
the
country.
If
we're
gonna,
do
this
and
I
think
you
should
all
keep
in
mind.
Another
phrase
that
I
think
has
been
said
here
and
and
that
I
mentioned
earlier,
we
can't
keep
doing
the
same
thing
and
expect
different
results.
We
need
to
improve
the
quality
and
quantity
of
science
and
STEM
related
education
in
Nashville,
and
we
have
a
dedicated
staff
and
leadership
at
this
museum
that
can
a
huge
difference
and
I
hope
you'll.
BE
Good
evening,
honorable
Mannheimer
and
vice
mayor,
when
Whistler
and
esteemed
City
Council
members,
my
name
is
Tiffany,
double-o
and
I'm.
Just
here
to
give
you
an
update
of
the
Asheville
City
Schools
foundations
in
real
life,
after-school
Network
and
just
some
of
the
great
things
that
we've
been
doing
I
do
have
some
handouts.
That
I
would
leave
out.
Leave
with
you
guys.
BE
Just
excuse
me,
you
can
tell
I
feel
in
bringing
community
partners
together
to
do
what
we
all
love
to
do
and
that's
to
serve.
Youth
I
am
extremely
excited
to
report
that
the
Cato
students
that
are
now
seniors
at
Asheville,
high
school
and
Sylla
75%
of
those
students
attended
IRL
from
six
to
eighth
grade.
BE
One
student
in
particular
is
now
being
reinvested
in
and
he's
running
in
our
program.
So
not
only
did
he
receive
training,
but
he
also
received
a
stipend.
So
for
five
weeks
he
attended
and
ran
developed
and
operated
his
own
program
with
youth
of
color,
and
what
does
it
for
him
and
our
young
individuals
was
gave
them.
It
gave
them
a
model
to
go
by.
He
learned
how
to
administer
social-emotional
learning
skills.
BE
He
was
able
to
observe
and
document
that
information
and
he's
still
a
senior,
and
it
just
warms
my
heart
to
be
able
to
come
here
and
give
you
an
update
of
just
the
wonderful
things
that
your
investment
in
our
youth
and
in
our
school
district,
along
with
in
the
foundation,
is
doing
in
our
community.
Thank.
A
BF
Hi
thanks
for
the
time
here,
my
name
is
Steven
beltram
and
my
wife
Becca
and
I
own
balsam
Gardens,
which
is
a
certified
organic
farm
here
in
town
and
we
own
a
34,
acre
property
on
which
we
maintain
a
large
portion
of
that
properties,
wildlife
and
pollinator
habitat,
as
well
as
a
riparian
buffer.
To
protect
the
watershed.
We
also
do
extensive
cover
cropping
to
sequester
carbon.
In
addition
to
growing
organic
produce,
our
form
farm
serves
important
ecosystem
functions.
BF
This
is
a
situation
that
could
put
us
out
of
business,
so
we
reached
out
to
a
group
called
backyard
bo
Pro,
which
is
a
local
charity
that
helps
landowners,
manage
deer
and
donates
the
meat
to
organizations
that
feed
the
less
advantaged
in
our
community.
We
thought
this
was
a
way
to
turn
a
problem
into
a
community
solution.
BF
A
BF
BF
W
A
W
A
Will
say
when
I
got
your
request.
I
did
some
of
my
own
research
about
this,
because
it
is
an
issue
not
just
for
Asheville
but
in
cities
across
the
nation,
where
there
are
deer
populations
increasing
significantly
and
actually
one
of
the
ones
I've
read,
which
was
by
a
very
popular
city,
think-tank,
said
that
bow
and
arrow
doesn't
actually
solve
a
problem,
but
but
I
think
you
know.
BF
W
B
BF
BG
Hey
my
name
is
Jonathan.
Wainscott
I
can
wrap
up
the
little
community
engagement
meeting
that
I
went
down
to
in
South
a
stroll
on
Wednesday
up
really
quickly.
I,
don't
think
you
should
shame
all
those
people
for
not
showing
up.
It
was
four
o'clock
in
six
o'clock
way
down
in
South
a
fill
rush-hour
traffic
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
When
I
saw
that
it
was
announced,
it
was
sort
of
like
City
Council
wants
to
hear
from
you.
BG
So
I
was
like
you
know
that
sounds
great
and
when
I
went
down
there,
you
know
you
guys
were
there
except
deejay.
Was
there
for
three
minutes
to
introduce
us
to
the
concept
that
hiring
the
city
manager
is
pretty
much
the
most
important
job
that
you
guys
have
and
that
he
was
going
and
you
guys
weren't
there
and
wloz?
Is
there
and
then
the
other
press
was
there?
BG
But
I
was
there
and
just
let
you
know,
basically
all
it
is-
is
a
little
primer
on
Dillon's
rule
so
that
we
know
that
you
know
we
can't
do
everything
that
we
want
to
do
as
a
city
and
then
just
sort
of
walk
through
the
paper
handout
that
you
can
get
as
the
survey
and
that's
really
all
that
it
is
now
my
concern.
The
reason
I
really
went
down
there,
thinking
that
I
was
gonna.
BG
Talk
to
you
guys
was
that
you
know
you
put
out
this
effort
to
engage
in
the
community
at
a
broader
way,
inclusiveness,
making
sure
everybody's
heard,
and
then
we
had
three
meetings,
one
of
them
being
a
doubleheader
on
one
day
and
then
the
other
one
that's
coming
up
way
down
in
south
Asheville.
So
you've
made
it
a
lot
easier
for
people
in
South
Asheville
to
have
to
get
to
this,
but
people
in
North,
Asheville
and
West
Asheville,
and
it
wasn't
nearly
as
easy
for
them
to
do.
That.
BG
I
know
that
you
don't
want
to
do
anything
and
sort
of
in
north
east,
south
west
kind
of
fashion,
because
you
don't
want
to
be
district
it.
But
this
this
this
was
just
a
dog
and
pony
show,
so
you
could
check
off
community
engagement.
You
know,
and
we
are
talking
about
hiring
a
city
manager
which
is
the
most
important
job
that
you
guys
as
City
Council
gets
to
do.
So,
if
you
want
to
hear
from
us
just
come
to
us,
instead
of
making
staff
go,
make
some
thing
to
then
come
back
and
figure
out.
BG
So
if
we
haven't
rewritten
our
lease
with
the
Asheville
tourists,
they're
essentially
squatting
on
our
city
asset,
which
is
ten
million
dollars
and
I,
don't
think
that
that's
really
conducive
of
like
good
asset
management
by
a
city
manager.
So
you
know,
if
we're
talking
about
squeezing
dollars
out
of
anywhere,
that
we
possibly
can
I
would
like
to
see
the
City
Council
charge,
the
Asheville
tourists
a
reasonable
rent,
which
of
course,
they're
not
going
to
want
to
pay.
C
BA
BA
Her
family
was
called
up
to
the
States
today,
with
her
three
kids
detective
Familia
from
New
York
PD
shot
a
set
in
a
car.
They
had
her
family
come
on
stage
her
three
children
as
the
nation
honor
the
families.
Today,
already
this
year
in
2018,
we
have
54
officers
have
been
killed
in
the
line
of
duty
27
been
killed
by
gunshot.
BA
I've
been
to
the
memorial
many
times,
I
was
there
last
year
and
to
see
these
kids
to
see
them
with
no
longer
be
able
to
see
their
mom
or
their
dad
or
the
families
the
job
that
these
law
enforcement
officers
do
all
cost
our
country
oftentimes
parade
it.
It
has
helped
them
to
make
fun
of
they
are
perceived
in
the
most
unlikely
as'
manner.
BA
Majority
of
the
men
and
women
in
our
country
are
doing
their
best
to
do
their
job
to
protect
and
serve.
He
was
said
today
of
those
that
died
in
2017,
it's
hidden
danger
came
and
darkness
failed,
the
destruction
loom.
They
did
not
flinch,
they
were
not
afraid
they
live
every
day
of
their
lives
by
that
most
sacred
calling
to
serve
and
protect,
and
that's
why
these
officers
do
that.
I
worked
counsel
for
many
many
years
as
I
thought.
I
saw
only
two
people
ever
thanked
me
for
doing
my
job.
That
was
Maggie.
BA
That
was
one
other
we
take
them
for
granted.
We
once
said
to
appear
ambassador
to
job
these
men.
Women
do
or
need
I
want
decisions
to
know
something
happens
tonight.
You're
not
calling
the
mayor
you're,
not
telling
city
council
you're,
calling
police
officer,
and
you
hope
that
they
get
there
quick.
We
just
about
lost
one,
an
officer
lamb,
I
was
there
with
him
at
the
hospital.
BA
I
talked
to
his
wife,
I,
seen
his
mother
law
and
walk
around
damn
the
tears
just
realize
that
the
job
they
do
takes
a
sacrifice,
and
they
love
this
community.
They
want
this
community
to
succeed.
They
want
to
take
care
of
protects
you,
please
don't
demonize
the
law-enforcement
community
we
have
in
Asheville.
Please
don't
do
that.
I.
Ask
you.
Thank
you.
Thank.
BH
BH
BH
Are
not
what
the
rest
of
us
are
doing?
It
is
important
for
for
us
to
know
and
have
your
support
and
your
right
there
again.
There
is
a
crisis,
but
the
crisis
is:
is
how
are
you?
How
are
we
going
to
keep
that
from
happening?
How
are
you
going
to
stop
two
point,
two
officers
a
month?
How
are
you
gonna?
Stop
five
officers
in
May?
It's
not
going
to
change
unless
you
help
us,
so
we
need
your
help.
BH
You
know
those
of
us
that
do
our
jobs,
for
instance
the
Kayla
officers
or
the
Kayla
young
people
that
came
up
I'd,
say
90%
of
them,
I'd
ask
for
the
actual
high
school
or
the
silicic
program.
That's
my
kids.
I
spent
the
last
four
years
at
Asheville
high
school
I.
Do
urge
you
I
do
urge
you.
Some
people
have
said:
do
they
trust
the
police
I
hired
you
Dallas
can
do
they
trust
officer
Loveland?
BH
BH
AY
So
I
want
to
thank
you
for
moving
forward.
I
want
to
thank
you
for
the
ways
that
you
today
have
acknowledged
the
value
of
what
public
input
has
brought
the
ways
that
you've
acknowledged
the
importance
of
process
and
transparency
and
sticking
to
process
the
ways
that
you're
bringing
legislature
forward.
That's
important
to
make
moves
to
the
larger
state.
AY
We've
also
really
seen
that
we're
in
a
unique
transitional
moment
where
really
effective
leadership
is
needed
and,
in
addition
to
crisis
we're
also
in
an
interim
time
and
we've
seen,
you
know
jokes
tonight
about
I,
don't
even
know
what
your
title
is
anymore.
We
have
no
idea
what
the
concerns
are.
We
there
was
a
moment
when
you
said
about
how
y'all
really
agree
with
what
Patrick
was
saying,
but
then
what's
the
next
step,
and
it
just
gets
passed
to
city
management
and
I.
AY
Think
at
this
moment,
when
there
is
an
interim
management
system
that
was
not
set
up
to
run
the
way
it's
running
right
now
we
lost
somebody
and
now
everybody's
scrambling
to
feel
fill
the
places
and,
at
the
same
time,
we're
in
crisis.
Things
are
slipping
through
the
cracks,
so
I
think
that
your
leadership
at
council
I
understand
that
we
have
a
council-manager
system
and
it's
set
up
to
work
that
way,
and
hopefully,
when
we
have
our
new
city
manager,
that's
like
ready
to
be
in
their
role.
It
will
work
that
way.
AY
But
for
this
moment
it
feels
like
your
leadership
in
your
effective
leadership,
is
needed
in
some
ways
that
it's
maybe
not
needed
times
when
things
are
operating
as
they
need
to
operate,
because
people
not
being
responded
to
people
bringing
up
really
essential
issues
it
taking
the
timeline
like
we
need
timelines
of
things
being
when
things
are
being
brought
to
you
and
when
they're
actually
being
delivered
upon.
What
are
your
stress,
priorities
or
strategic
priorities,
and
how
are
those
strategic
priorities
really
being
addressed?
I
think
that
there's
you
know
I
have
down
on
there
like.
AY
O
AY
Up
the
leadership
but
also
leaning
on
the
community,
so
when
it
comes
to
passing
policies,
that's
great!
That's
your
role,
but
how
to
actually
implement
those
in
the
community.
You
need
to
be
in
partnership
with
us.
People
have
a
lot
of
knowledge
here.
I
mean
again.
The
cook
for
Asheville
demonstrates
how
to
drill
down
into
the
policy
to
actually
put
it
into
practice
in
a
community
how
to
bring
in
more
concrete
community
engagement,
so
that
folks
are
actually
a
part
of
partnering,
not
just
engaging.
Thank.
AY
B
K
Not
a
native
okay,
now
I'm,
the
owner
and
operator
of
Monaco
mio
pizza
at
27,
Biltmore,
ass,
so
I'm,
ready
to
her
to
downtown
and
Monaco
me
own
Italian
means
madhouse,
crazy,
I'm,
gonna
think
at
65
years
old,
when
I
invested
my
money
in
this
place.
Maybe
I
was
crazy.
I've
got
a
just
a
constant
problem
of
homeless
people
and
drug
use
in
that
block
of
27
Biltmore.
And
it's
not
like
it's
a
sporadic.
K
Using
my
men's
room,
my
ladies
room
to
use
drugs
take
baths,
and
my
and
my
sinks
I
come
in
in
the
morning
and
twice
they've
defecated
in
my
L
Cove
of
my
building
at
7:30
at
night
on
a
Wednesday
night
I
had
to
go
outside
and
there
was
a
gentleman
literally
peeing
on
my
wall
on
27
Biltmore.
It
wasn't
like
he
was
on
the
side
of
my
building.
K
He
was
on
the
front
of
my
building,
for
this
I
need
your
help
and
more
police
officers
that
are
working
that
strip
from
packs
where
the
sometimes
looks
like
a
homeless
camp.
At
65
years
old
I
invested
my
life
savings
into
Asheville
I
expect
Nashville
to
come
back
and
invest
something
into
me.
Not
a
well-educated
man.
I
quit
school
in
ninth
grade
I've
been
in
the
restaurant
business
most
of
my
life.
What
I'm
asking
you
people
is
to
do
your
job
and
give
me
some
protection
in
there.
I
don't
like
being
broken.
K
Failure
is
not
an
option
for
me.
At
66
years
old
now,
I've
only
lived
in
the
city
three
years,
but
I
love,
Asheville,
but
I
want
to
ask
you
love
me
a
little
bit.
I,
don't
think
it's
my
job
at
66
years
old,
constantly
have
guys
sitting
in
front
of
my
restaurant
smoking,
weed
and
abusing
drugs.
I
try
to
run
a
family
restaurant
if
there's
weed
being
smoked
outside.
Obviously
my
exhaust
fans
suck
it
inside.
If
people
come
in,
they
they
think
I'm,
smoking
it
and
I
tell
them.
K
So
my
thing
is:
I
need
some
support
in
that
area
and
it's
not
just
me
it's
a
lot
of
other
business
owners
and
we're
talking
about
all
getting
together
and
coming
in
and
coming
to
the
next
meeting.
But
this
is
what
we
need.
We
need
more
police
officers
at
helping
us
out
down
there
because
it's
a
problem
just
getting
out
of
it.
Thank.
A
K
A
Offer
that
a
couple
of
years
ago,
some
of
us
went
on
the
visit
to
Fort
Collins
Colorado,
one
of
the
EndNote
trips
or
another
city,
where
you
take
kind
of
deep
dive
look,
and
they
have
an
interesting
program
where
the
city
helps
fund
a
nonprofit
that
trains
folks
who
can
respond
to
calls
from
business
owners
like
you
that
are
interacting
with
a
chronically
homeless
population
or
a
traveler,
and
instead
of
having
that
be
a
police
interaction.
That
is
an
interaction
that
involves
helping
folks
find
resources
that
may
better
may
better
seat
them.
A
It
would
address
your
concern
as
well,
but
also
meet
the
needs
of
those
folks
involved
and
Kathy
balls
and
she's
stepped
into
this
role,
as
manager
has
picked
up
that
idea
and
run
with
it
and
and
we're
now
actually
moving
on
it,
where
nothing
was
happening
before
so
so
anyway,
we
have
heard
your
concern
before
and
we're
trying
to
find
a
way
to
address
it.
That
is
not
an
additional
burden
to
police
or
a
law
enforcement
answer
to
the
to
the
issue,
but
no.
K
I
appreciate
everything
you've
said:
I
want
you
to
know,
I'm,
not
a
heartless
sob,
but
I
have
hired
several
of
these
people
and
giving
them
the
opportunity
yeah
and
yeah
twice.
They've
walked
out
on
me
with
no
notice
or
anything
once
in
the
middle
of
their
shift.
So
it's
nice
to
talk
about
placement
and
helping
people
out,
but
let's
use
the
Bible
and
say
god
helps
those
who
help
themselves.
Ladies
people
aren't
interested
in
helping
themselves
or
anybody
else
so
looking
for
a
free
handout
from
whoever
give
a
toll.
Thank.
B
C
C
BI
You
know:
Stephen
got
up
and
spoke,
and
we've
been
going
around
and
about
with
everybody
on
city,
council
and
city
staff
and
other
people
in
the
sustainability
office
and
the
attorney
and
all
these
people
for
I
think
at
least
a
month
and
trying
to
you
know,
get
some
movement
on
this
issue
and
it's
a
public
safety
ordinance.
It's
not
about
whether
we
agree
or
disagree
with
killing
animals
Stephens
also
vegan
for
a
long
time.
BI
It's
not
we're
trying
to
kill
a
bunch
of
deer,
but
I
just
feel
like
it's
your
job
to
move
a
meeting
along
and
you
did
a
you,
do
a
really
good
job
at
running
a
meeting,
but
it
was
kind
of
like
push
it
off
to
something
else,
and
it
just
didn't
feel
fair
and
I
didn't
feel
good
and
I'm,
not
a
speech
person.
This
is
not
our
environment
so
and
I,
don't
really
know
exactly
what
to
say.
Cuz
I
wasn't
planning
to
speak,
but
just
that
this
is
our
forum
to
talk
with
you.
BI
People
and
you've
all
had
really
long
days
and
we've
all
had
a
really
long
day,
and
unfortunately,
it's
8
o'clock
at
night
and
we're
still
here,
but
this
is
our
only
way
to
engage
with
you
and
I
just
want
to.
You
know
make
sure
that
I
walk
away
feeling
good
about
that
and
you
walk
away
feeling
good
about
that
and
I
did
not
so
here.
I
am
yeah,
I
I,
don't
know
a
lot
of
farms
are
outside
city
limits
and
I.
B
BI
Like
somehow,
we
got
lucky
enough
to
farm
in
the
city
limits
and
that
makes
our
food
more
accessible
to
more
people
in
a
different
way
than
farms
that
are
outside
the
city
and
I.
Just
we
run
into
a
lot
of
hurdles
because
of
that
city
limit
and
I.
Don't
want
Asheville
to
suffer,
not
suffer,
but
I
don't
want
Asheville
to
lose.
You
know
the
opportunity
for
local
food
because
of
that.
So
thank.
A
A
BI
Q
BI
A
So
what
so?
What
the
city
attorney
is
saying.
Ultimately,
what
you're
talking
about
is
proposing
an
amendment
to
an
ordinance.
She
was
simply
saying
that
someone
would
have
to
draft
the
amendment
to
the
ordinance,
yes,
that
that
the
hope
I
think
was
that
this
council
tonight
would
ask
the
city
attorney
to
go
ahead
and
draft
that
amendment.
BI
A
Was
the
way
that
that
was
meant
I'm,
sorry,
I'm,
I'm,
not
I.
Don't
think
this
council
is
prepared
tonight
to
to
direct
the
city
staff
to
begin
preparing
that
that
amendment,
if
I'm
sensing
the
council
correctly,
but
they
are
willing
to
begin
that
conversation
at
public
at
the
public
safety
subcommittee
of
Council.
W
BI
AG
W
AS
AS
We
have
almost
a
thousand
signatures
for
that,
if
not
now
when,
where
our
interpreters
I
hear
APD
officers
saying
they're
overworked,
not
that
we
have
to
look
at
what
APD
is
doing
their
job
description,
as
you
just
did
with
the
gentleman
that
is
struggling
with
a
homeless
population
that
I
love
and
who
are
my
family
because
of
where
we
are
sending
people
that
don't
have
the
tools
to
do
the
job.
We
need
to
send
folks,
and
you
all
know
that,
while
you're
looking
into
Fort,
Collins
and
I,
thank
you
for
that.
AS
It's
not
now
when
we
had
seen
the
consequences
of
over
policing
and
racial
bias,
policing
the
poor
or
walking,
while
black
and
police
brutality
writ
large,
with
the
horrific
beating
and
electrocuting
of
mr.
Johnny
rush,
if
not
now,
when
a
man
beg
over
and
over
I
can't
breathe.
If
not
now,
when
the
soul
of
our
city
has
been
laid
bare
and
found
wanting,
if
not
now
we
are
in
a
crisis,
if
not
now,
what
did
you
feel
when
you
watch
the
meeting
of
Johnny
rush?
AS
This
story
is
a
micro
story
of
the
macro
story
of
poor
people
and
people
of
color
and
Asheville
being
over-policed,
and
that
decision
is
in
your
hands
by
the
city's
own
numbers.
We
are
over
police
before
this
year
is
out.
We
will
be
the
second
highest
police
city
in
the
state,
the
second-highest
way
higher
than
the
national
average
much
higher
than
in
the
tourist
town
of
Wilmington
and
other
comparable
communities,
if
not
now
low
cost,
no
cost
solutions,
pretty
consent,
homeless,
voice
policy
recommendations,
if
not
now,
yes
to
your
legislative
agenda.
AS
B
AS
Results
of
over
policing
have
enormous
human
costs
and
resource
cost
to
the
city,
we're
worried
about
getting
sued
around
the
public
data,
but
we
are
being
sued
right
now
because
of
over
policing.
It's
not
now
when
it's
not
now
with
eliminating
the
1.2
million
increase.
This
is
my
last
sentence:
the
APD.
We
could
have
an
entirely
fair
free
bus
system
and
be
able
to
have
$400,000
for
a
people's
budget
and
join
cities
across
the
country
and
participatory
budgeting.
We
need
a
million
dollars
for
the
people,
if
not
now,
when
thank
you.
L
Don't
worry,
I'm,
not
gonna,
hide
it
right
now,
but
you
know
on
on
transparency
on
the
open
data
proposal.
I
do
want
to
thank
Council
for
for
providing
me
the
opportunity
to
speak
for
hearing
my
concerns
for
hearing
what
the
community
is
saying.
This
is
very
important
and
I'm
pushing
very
hard
on
this,
because
I
think
it
is
very
important.
L
I
I
do
believe
that
we
have
a
crisis
of
confidence,
a
crisis
of
trust
between
the
public
and
the
police
department
and
that
harms
all
of
our
officers
who
are
doing
the
right
thing,
because
when
we
don't
put
date
out
there,
people
assume
it
says
the
worst
possible
thing.
It
could
the
only
way
to
fix
that,
and
then
that's
not
fair,
but
that's
the
truth.
The
way
to
fix
that
is
to
be
transparent
and
that's
and
that's
all
I
have
to
say
have
a
good,
fresh,
Phil's
proposal.
L
One
other
thing
as
we
move
to
create
the
HRC.
A
I
met
with
dr.
Dwight
Mullen
of
UNCA
recently
and
I
was
talking
with
him
and
I
was
thinking
of
how
he
presented
the
state
of
black
Asheville
to
the
Lumpkin
County
Commissioners.
How
those
numbers
caused
them
to
take
really
bold
actions
to
fund
community
driven
solutions
and
I
asked
him?
Have
you
ever
been
invited
to
present
here,
and
he
had
not.