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From YouTube: City Council Budget Work Session – November 27, 2018
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November 27, 2018
Asheville City Council Budget Work Session
C
Vice
mayor
members
of
City
Council,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
today
to
come
before
you
and
discuss
the
status
of
the
city
of
Asheville's
revenue
sources
and
particularly
to
open
up
a
conversation
with
the
community
about
those
revenue
sources.
So
we're
kind
of
titling
this
a
balancing
act
that
hopefully
will
make
sense
as
we
move
through
the
present.
The
presentation
we
all
know
how
great
Asheville
is,
whether
you're
a
resident
of
Asheville,
whether
you're
a
visitor,
whether
you're
you
work
here
and
travel
from
outside
the
city
limits
we
know.
C
Even
in
this
year
we
have
received
several
accolades,
including
our
favorite
food
city,
travel
and
leisure,
has
ranked
us
the
top
15
cities
in
the
United
States.
We
have
been
rated
the
top
vacation
destination
by
Expedia
this
year.
Now
we
are
becoming
even
more
well
known
for
our
music
industry
and
even
forbes
designated
us
as
top
destinations
of
2018.
C
So
as
a
result
of
that,
we
have
seen
a
construction
boom
with
the
economy
and
all
of
the
things
going
on
in
our
community.
It
only
takes
looking
outside
to
see
a
crane
in
the
air
and
a
lot
of
movement
happening
in
Asheville.
We
see
there
examples
of
different
pictures
of
our
community
growing
and
the
opportunities
that
our
community
has
as
a
result
of
that
growth.
C
So
the
question
then
becomes,
as
we
look
around
our
community
and
a
lot
of
times,
I'm
going
to
be
referring
to
our
the
larger
see
of
our
community
as
the
community
as
a
whole
and
the
smaller
one
being
city
government.
So
when
you
look
around
the
community
and
you
see
all
the
growth
that's
happening
and
everything
good
about
Asheville,
sometimes
people
don't
necessarily
connect
the
fact
that,
with
all
that
growth
and
all
of
the
money
coming
into
the
community,
not
all
of
that
money
hits
the
city
of
Asheville
budget
revenues.
C
You've
seen
this
kind
of
graphic
in
a
different
way
before
the
city
basically
has
four
different
types
of
revenue
that
comes
into
the
city,
with
the
largest
portion
of
that
revenue
being
property
taxes.
So
that
means
whether
you're
business
owner
or
you're
a
resident
that
you
pay
property
taxes
on
the
property
that
you
have.
That
includes
real
estate
property.
It
also
includes
cars,
any
other
equipment
that
you
have.
We
also
have
sales
tax
that
comes
that's
collected
by
businesses,
sent
to
the
state
redistributed
to
the
county
and
then
comes
back
to
the
city
of
Asheville.
C
We
have
charges
for
service.
Those
charges
for
service
include
things
like
our
solid
waste
fee
or
things
like
the
permit
fees
and
development
services.
We
also
have
other
revenues.
This
other
revenues
would
be
things
like
franchise
fees,
utility
fees
that
are
collected
by
the
state
and
redistributed
back
to
the
city,
but
they're
based
on,
for
example,
with
utility.
All
of
us
pay
that
live
in
the
city
would
pay
utility
bill
as
well
as
businesses.
A
part
of
that
money
comes
back
to
the
city
in
this
way
of
those
revenues.
C
City
council
really
only
has
the
ability
to
effect
two
of
those
different
sources
of
revenues
and
the
first
is
property
tax
and
the
other
is
charges
for
services.
So
we
are
talking
about
the
best
of
times
from
an
economic
standpoint
during
the
best
of
times.
The
growth
that
you
see
every
year
when
we
talk
about
revenues
is
around
a
three
percent
growth
in
our
property
taxes.
The
increase
in
three
percent
means
that
we
will
have
an.
C
Tax
tax
collections
means
that
we
would
realize
an
increase
of
about
two
million
dollars
a
year
out
of
a
hundred
and
twenty
four
million
dollar
budget
sales
tax
increases
again
that's
five
percent
growth.
Those
are
very
good
number.
That
means
that
Ash
was
doing
a
lot
of
business
and
there's
a
lot
of
money
coming
into
the
city.
The
revenue
the
city
receives
from
that
is
about
one
point:
increase
per
year
is
about
1.3
million
the
increases
in
charges
for
services.
C
Those
are
things
that
we
come
to
you
with
during
the
budget
cycle,
and
we
say
to
you:
we
want
to
increase
permit
fees
here
or
we
want
to
increase
a
fee
here.
Those
are
typically
where
you
see
those
increases
come
from.
We
really
cannot
count
on
any
other
increases
coming
in
through
those
other
charges.
I
do
want
to
spend
a
little
bit
of
time
talking
about
sales
taxes,
because
I
think
there
are
some
myths
around
sales
taxes
that
come
to
the
city.
I
show
this
graphic
and
I
show
in
a
couple
different
ways.
C
The
best
way
that
I
can
describe
this
graphic
is
that
we
know
that
for
every
dollar.
That's
spent
in
the
city
that
that
they
put
there
the
state
collects
7
cents
of
sales
tax,
so
of
seven
cents
of
sales,
tax
point
four
cents
of
that
seven
cents
comes
back
to
the
city,
so
I'm
going
to
say
that
one
more
time
like
seven
cents
is
collected
for
every
dollar
point
four
cents
of
that
comes
back
to
the
city
of
Asheville
to
hit
the
city.
C
C
So
in
a
typical
year
we
would
see
just
a
normal
growth
within
the
city's
budget
of
about
3.2
million.
And,
if
you
remember
in
the
slide
before
that,
I
showed
we
have
a
normal
growth
of
about
3.6
million.
So
if
you
factor
in
generally,
four
different
increases
that
we
see
in
our
budget
every
year,
the
cost
of
living
being
2.2
million
and
those
cover
things
like
just
employee
raises
covering
the
cost
for
additional
employee
cost
health
care.
C
Point
five
million
inflation
point
four
million
and
then
the
increase
in
cost
in
construction
that
you
heard
about
it.
Your
last
budget
work
session,
we're
really
at
3.2
million.
So
we
don't
want
to
paint
the
picture
too
drab,
because
we
do.
We
are
showing
that
that
leaves
us
with
about
four
hundred
thousand
dollars.
But
when
you're
talking
about
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
meet
community
expectations
in
this
community,
it
really
doesn't
get
us
very
far.
Any.
D
C
Is
a
base
budget?
That's
no
growth,
except
for
the
four
items
that
we're
talking
about.
So
that's
not
even
including
enough
to
keep
up
with
deferred
maintenance
and
when
we
talk
about
deferred
maintenance
to
be
to
be
clear
and
we've
shown
you
this
slide
a
number
of
times.
We
we
keep
up
with
how
well
we're
doing
and
maintaining
our
streets
through
a
pavement
index
condition
and
every
community
larger
community
in
North.
Carolina
uses
this
same
standard,
and
you
know
I
guess
we
could
be
in
worse
place
to
Greensboro.
C
But,
as
you
can
see,
it's
like
it's
like
scoring
a
58
or
60
out
of
a
hundred
on
a
test.
So
you
can
see
that
we
are
not
faring
well
when
it
comes
to
other
communities
of
our
size
when
it's
when
it
comes
to
taking
care
of
streets.
Now,
I
will
say
that
council
recognized
this
and
took
significant
action
in
your,
but
by
working
hard
with
the
community
to
issue
a
bond
to
increase
that
amount
and
we
have
done
better
within
the
past
year
or
so
within
that
that
amount
to
put
that
in
context.
C
It
cost
we
about
ten
four
to
resurface.
Ten
miles
cost
about
four
point:
two:
five
million
the
city
has
400
miles
of
streets.
At
this
rate,
it
would
take
us
40
years
to
resurface
every
street,
and
that
is
much
better
than
we
used
to
be
the
condition
that
we
used
to
be
in
excluding
the
bond
money
that
we
have.
The
city
is
currently
spending
in
our
capital
improvement
program
about
2.8
million
in
street
resurfacing.
C
So
let's
talk
for
just
a
minute
in
transitioning
what
what
options
counsel
had
or
have
at
this
point?
So
typically,
when
counsel
would
look
at
this
situation
and
hear
of
our
limited
revenues
and
increase
cost.
The
limitation
that
we
showed
before
was
either
increased
property
taxes
or
to
increase
fees
and
charges,
and
that
has
been
pretty
much
the
limitation
that
counsel
has
been
facing
at
this
point
so
far,
and
in
looking
at
that
some
of
those
every
year
we
come
to
you
and
we've
looked
at
different
ways
that
we
could
bring
in
revenue.
C
An
example
of
one
is
that
that
a
couple
of
years
ago,
the
General
Assembly
allowed
us
to
generate
to
collect
an
additional
vehicle
tax
in
the
amount
of
twenty
additional
dollars
for
a
total
of
thirty
dollars
that
had
to
be
spent
on
roadway
work,
which
gave
us
an
additional
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars.
So
the
the
city
is
the
city.
Staff
is
currently
always
looking
at
options
of
increasing
revenue,
sources
for
the
city
and
I
know.
This
is
lengthy.
So
please
interrupt
me
if
you
have
questions
during
this.
C
The
lighter
grayer
people
who
live
in
the
city
and
they
travel
inside
the
city
limits
for
their
work.
The
the
green
color
I'm
going
to
make
sure
it's
the
same
on
this
slide.
The
greenish
color
are
people
who
live
either
within
the
county
or
within
surrounding
counties,
and
they
travel
in
every
day
into
the
city
of
Asheville,
and
they
may
be
traveling
to
go
to
the
hospital
for
doctor's
appointments
to
work.
C
We
don't
know
exclusively
for
the
purpose
that
they're
traveling,
the
lighter
green,
is
our
tourist
population
that
travel
into
the
city
on
a
daily
basis.
I
want
to
I
want
to
toggle
between
these
two,
because
I
think
there's
an
important
point
to
be
made
between
these
two
graphs.
We
have
the
largest
increase
in
daytime
population
than
any
other
large
city
in
North.
Carolina
I
want
to
go
back
because
I
think
I
also
want
to
make
a
point.
The
information
that
you
saw,
showing
that
we
have
a
50%
increase
in
population
excludes
tourism.
C
So
when
you
look
at
adding
in
tourism
what
you're
seeing
there
is
that
we
actually
about
double
our
population
during
the
day
when
you
include
tourism,
so
we
go
from
around
ninety
thousand
to
one
hundred
and
sixty
thousand
during
the
day.
So
we
have,
we
are.
We
are
serving
during
the
day
about
double
the
city's
population,
with
the
services
that
the
city
provides.
C
That
is
neither
that
is
not
not
good
or
bad.
It
is
simply
the
fact
that
we
are
the
largest
city
within
an
hour
from
here
and
we're
a
regional
hub
that
provides
services
and
has
a
job
Center
for
the
surrounding
area
and
that
we
are
an
incredible
place
for
people
to
visit.
So
none
of
this
is
is
a
negative
sense.
It's
just
the
the
it's
just
the
facts
of
the
situation
that
we're
dealing
with
I
think
so.
E
Campus,
let
me
sorry
I
just
want
to
make
the
point
on
the
tourism
number
that,
of
course,
that's
not
a
you
know.
The
tourism
is
a
seasonal
is
still
to
some
degree
a
seasonal
thing
here.
So
it's
not
like
it's
not
like.
We
have
the
same.
It's
not
like
the
commuters,
where
the
number
is
regular
everyday.
There
are.
There
are
days
when
we
probably
more
than
double
in
population
and
then
there
days
that
we
don't
yes.
C
C
Right,
that's
right
so
who
uses
Asheville
city
services
so
on
on
one
side
of
a
balance
of
a
seesaw,
you
see,
there's
a
non-resident
population,
so
this
non-resident
population
is
made
up
of
tourists.
And/Or
people
who
visit
the
city
on
a
regular
basis
and
I
would
point
out
that
you
know
the
reason
that
a
lot
of
folks
you've
heard
the
numbers
before
about
the
number
of
city
employees
who
do
not
live
in
the
city
often
times
that's
because
they
can't
afford
to
so.
C
There
are
people
who
would
choose
to
live
in
the
city
and
not
have
to
commute
as
far
except
they
can't
afford
to,
but
they
do
fall
within
this
non-resident
population.
When
we
talk
about
streets
in
sidewalks,
we're
not
just
particularly
talking
about
how
they
wear
out
the
sidewalks,
what
we're
talking
about
is
they
have
the
use
of
the
sidewalks
that
are
paid
by
the
taxpayers
to
be
able
to
travel
on,
to
be
able
to
walk
on,
and
this
is
not
abnormal
from
any
other
city.
It's
just
that.
C
We
have
a
larger
amount
of
people
who
use
them,
so
they
do
use
fire
services
when
they
have
accidents.
When
there's
emergencies
that
happen,
they're
able
to
use
the
greenways
openly
provide
for
festivals
and
events,
and
we
do
have
a
next
downtown
cleaning
sidewalk
program.
So
if
you
look
on
the
other
side
of
property
owners
and
those
are
the
folks
who
are
paying
property
taxes,
you
see
that
there
is
neighborhood,
policing
and
brush
collect
collection
that
may
that
is
a
little
bit
more
of
a
service
that
they
receive
within
the
city
limits.
C
We
were
just
in
a
finance
committee
meeting
talking
about
fire
services
and
the
calls
for
services,
and
you
know
a
lot
of
those
services
that
we're
hearing
are
on
accidents
particularly,
are
not
necessarily
people
who
live
in
the
city.
So
what
are
some
possible
solutions?
So
we
we
try
to
acknowledge
that
that
appears
to
be
what
the
dilemma
that
we're
facing
is
this
imbalance
of
who
gets
services
versus
who
pays
for
services.
C
So
we
took
a
really
broad
approach
to
saying
what
are
some
of
the
other
cities
doing
not
just
in
North
Carolina,
but
in
some
other
places,
and
we
didn't
limit
our
thinking
to
just
things
that
are
allowed
in
North
Carolina.
We
kind
of
opened
it
up,
so
these
are
some
things
that
no
city
in
North
Carolina
are
currently
allowed
to
do
a
city.
C
C
And
that's
currently
not
allowed
in
any
city
in
North,
Carolina
or
a
city
income
tax,
and
there
are
some
cities
up
north
that
have
income
tax
that
allow
for
this.
We
also
looked.
You
know
at
this
point
time.
I
want
to
pause,
because
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
folks
ask
this
question.
They
a
lot
of
people
say
what
about
the
room,
tax
and
so
I'm
gonna
talk
about
that
in
a
little
bit,
but
I
think
it's
worth
that's
spending
a
little
bit
of
time.
C
C
Currently,
3/4
percent
of
the
money
is
used
for
marketing
and/or.
Other
operational
cost
1/4
is
used
for
tourism,
product
development
fund
in
2015
that
lump
that
money
was
limited
to
going
to
nonprofits
and/or
government.
So
there
has
been
a
higher
level
of
working
with
local
governments
to
be
able
to
fund
projects
within
that
pot
of
money.
C
So
allowed
property
taxes
and
I
specifically
had
a
question
from
Councilman
Kapoor
about
you
know:
what
could
the
city
do
within
the
range
of
opportunities?
All
three
of
these
are
currently
permitted
within
the
city
without
any
special
legislation
from
the
county
and/or,
the
state,
the
first
one
is
a
Business
Improvement
District
that
was
talked
about,
probably
six
or
seven
years
ago.
Those
are
allowed
in
areas
where
we
have
a
municipal
service
district
and
are
specifically
set
up
to
be
able
to
address
business
areas
and
the
needs
that
businesses
and
more
dense
areas
have.
C
We
also
have
the
ability
to
do
a
special
assessment.
We
talked
about
this
in
finance
as
well.
A
special
assessment
is
when
you
have
a
neighborhood
that
wants
an
additional
service,
such
as
a
sidewalk
or
a
storm
drain
line
or
curb
gutter,
and
it
may
not
rise
to
the
highest
priority
that
the
city
has
there
are
we
do
have
the
ability
within
North
Carolina,
to
assess
property
owners
on
their
tax
bill
so
that
they
actually
cover
the
cost
of
that
themselves.
C
We
we
with
the
the
efforts
of
our
equity
and
inclusion
office.
We
are
always
looking
at
how
these
taxes
or
possibilities
could
potentially
impact
through
an
affordability
lens.
When
we
look
at
a
bid,
the
the
bid
as
an
option,
it
would
tax
just
property
owners.
So
when
we
go
back
to
that
screen
of
who
do
we
tax?
C
C
C
Sales
tax
increases
disproportionately
impact,
low-income
households,
because
the
cost
to
meet
basic
needs
are
typically
a
larger
percent
of
their
overall
budget.
So,
even
if
they're
paying
less
a
prepared
food
excuse
me
for
sales
tax,
it
typically
makes
up
a
large
percentage
of
their
budget,
and
now
and
I
would
be
careful
in
how
say
this.
The
benefit
would
be
that
the
money
that
we
would
receive
would
go
toward
people
who
have
barriers
to
transportation.
So
the
state
statute
says
that
all
of
the
money
collected
for
this
has
to
go
into
transportation,
and
it
is.
C
C
E
Think
and
Kathy
I
would
it
is
that
statement
is
absolutely
true
that
it
would
benefit
people
with
transportation
barriers
building
out
the
transit
system,
for
instance,
that
is
represented
by
the
transit
master
plan,
would
also
benefit
a
lot
of
people
who
don't
have
transportation
barriers,
which
you
know
in
the
cities
that
have
really
successful
transit
systems.
That's
that's,
who
you're
serving
your
serving
both
of
those
populations,
so
it's
as
I
just
I
just
want
to
be
clear
that
this
this
would
be.
E
C
D
D
Asked
was,
you
know:
is
there
anything
that
we
can
kind
of
do
on
our
own
right
now,
similar
to
the
the
quarter,
cent
sales
tax,
and
so
so
you've
listed
those
three
the
bids,
the
special
assessments,
the
property
tax
increase.
You've
got
the
voter
referendum
for
the
sales
tax.
Are
there?
Are
there
any
other
ones
that
you're
aware
of
that?
Would
either
that
either
we
could
do
via
vote
or
that
we
could
do
via
voter
referendum.
That
you're
aware
of
the.
C
E
And
Vijay
I
just
want
to
put
a
point
on
the
transit
tax.
We
don't
get
to
do
that.
The
County
Commission
has
to
vote
to
put
it
on
the
ballot.
We
can
ask
them
to
do
that,
but
they
can
say
no
and
then
right
now
under
current
state
law.
We're
that's
that's
the
end
of
the
conversation,
so
they
don't
have
to
do
it
just
because
we
ask
right.
D
C
D
C
So
again,
as
Julie
mentioned,
this
is
a
butter
referendum.
It
has
to
be
approved
by
Buncombe
County.
The
process
for
doing
that
that
I'll
get
to
in
a
timeline
in
a
little
bit
is
similar
to
what
council
took
up
action
for
the
bond.
So
there
has
to
be
three
motions
from
County
Commissioners.
It
has
to
be
put
on
the
ballot.
C
B
B
C
It's
defined
as
1/4
of
a
cent
within
the
statutes.
The
other
precedent
that
there
is
in
North
Carolina
is
for
a
prepared
food
and
beverage
tax,
that's
also
known
as
a
meals
tax.
So
that
applies
to
any
food
that
is
prepared
and
it
could
be
in
a
deli
of
a
above,
a
grocery
store
and
again
with
an
equity
lens.
We
want
to
point
out
that
it
would
disproportionately
impact
households
with
lower
incomes,
because
larger
percentages
of
their
budgets
are
used
for
food
and
for
ready-to-eat
items.
C
What
do
other
cities
do
so,
of
course,
we're
not
alone.
We've
tried
to
target
cities
that
are
similar
in
size
in
order
to
benchmark
and
that
have
an
increasing
daytime
population
similar
to
Asheville.
So
Miami
Beach
I
want
to
point
out
on
every
slide
that
you're
going
to
see
on
the
right-hand
side
of
the
vertical
bar
everybody
that
money
goes
directly
to
cities,
so
it
isn't
passed
through
to
any
other
agency.
So
Miami
Beach
has
a
population
of
91
thousand.
C
A
C
One
of
the
ones
that
you
see
in
these
examples
the
money
goes
directly
to
the
cities:
Duluth
Minnesota
population
86,000,
3.5
million
visitors.
They
have
a
1%
city
sales
tax,
again,
I
would
say:
that's
not
currently
allowed
or
permitted
in
North
Carolina,
a
2.25
percent
Mills
or
food
and
beverage
tax,
and
a
three
to
five
point.
Five
percent
lodging
tax
City
of
Greenville
South
Carolina,
which
is
just
about
an
hour
south
of
us
population,
68,000
five
million
visitors
a
year.
A
A
C
C
C
Not
aware
of
anything
in
North
Carolina
that
allows
for
this,
so
the
balancing
act.
So
this
is
what
this
is.
What
we
call
a
balancing
act
is
how
do
we?
How
do
we
balance
this
out
so
that
the
people
who
are
receiving
the
service
are
the
people
who
are
paying
for
this
service,
so
the
ability
to
be
able
to
add
a
sales
tax
returns?
It
would
also
apply
to
their
property
owners
as
well
as
the
non
resident
population.
The
prepared
food
and
beverage
tax
would
also
apply
to
both
property
owners
and
non-residential.
C
The
hotel
tax
is
only
owned,
typically
only
comes
from
a
non-residential
population,
so
we
believe
that
a
lot
of
the
tension
around
tourism
or
the
the
infill
during
daytime
population
is
from
this
imbalance,
and
if
we
could
reach
this
balance,
then
we
wouldn't
have
the
tension
in
our
community.
Some
of
us
this
morning
spent
the
morning
with
the
reconnect
community
talking
about
how
we
have
hard
conversations
and
how
we
really
get
to
the
heart
of
the
matter.
When
we're
talking
about
things
that
are
causing
trouble
and
causing
issues.
C
I
would
say
from
the
folks
that
we
talked
to
a
lot
of
the
issues
around
hotels.
A
lot
of
the
issues
around
tourism
are
from
from
the
community
or
from
the
fact
that
people
are
feeling
like
they're
they're,
not
paying
for
their
equal
share
within
the
community,
and
so
that's
kind
of
the
hard
conversation
to
have
around
that,
so
a
consideration
of
a
path
forward.
This
is
where
we
lay
up
we're
getting
into
laying
out
these
options
a
hotel
tax.
What
we're
proposing
is
aligning
resources
to
impact.
C
As
you
know,
we
have
received
huge
benefits
from
our
tourism
community.
If
you're
a
small
business
downtown,
it
would
be.
You
would
say
that
this
is
vital
to
your
success.
We
know
downtown
would
not
be
what
it
is
without
our
tourism
economy,
and
so
we
are
not
in
any
way
from
a
staff
perspective.
The
perspective
labeling
this
as
a
negative
thing,
because
our
community
would
not
be
what
it
is.
Additionally,
the
city
has
received
significant
amount
of
funny
funding
from
the
tourism
product
development
funding.
C
C
A
question
that
came
up
during
some
conversations
with
council
members
is
the
other
communities
in
north
carolina
that
received
these
monies
directly
receive
them
for
different
reasons,
but
within
each
of
those
we
found
these
six,
these
five
common
themes
and
things
that
other
communities
receive
that
receive
this
money
are
allowed
to
spend
it
on.
So
there
are
very
few
communities
that
get
the
hotel
tax
that
are
not
told
by
the
General
Assembly.
You
have
to
spend
it
on
this.
C
Next,
her
tourism
related
expenditures,
funding
for
tourism
from
related
capital
projects.
You
would
see
that
Charlotte
received
money
to
renovate
the
Panthers
stadium
as
a
result
of
this
a
lot
of
the
monies
along
the
beach
that
go
directly
to
directly
the
cities
are
for
beach,
renourishment
and
specifically
have
to
be
spent
on
those
things.
The
less
of
the
fifth
one
is
the
less
that
we
see
happen
more
frequently,
which
is
basically
yeah.
C
You
can
have
the
money
and
put
it
wherever
you
want
to,
but
that
is
very
infrequent
that
that
is
allowed
by
this
day,
so
TPDF
funding
I
would
just
remind
everybody
again
of
what
that
stands
for
tourism.
Product
development
funding,
which
is
3/4
one-fourth
of
the
amount
of
money
that's
received
in
the
hotel
tax,
is
estimated
to
be
about
five
million.
C
The
money
would
be
used
for
countywide
transit
related
and,
as
a
council
member
they
Mayfield
mentioned
earlier,
it
would
give
us
the
opportunity
to
expand
transit
into
the
county
and
provide
option
for
people
to
be
able
to
use
services
coming
commuting
in
from
the
county.
We
would
need
to
partner
with
the
county
to
be
able
to
make
this
happen.
C
The
implementation
it
would.
It
would
allow
us
to
implement
the
master
plan
that
you
all
approved
earlier
this
year
and
again
it
would
be
able
to
expand
services
into
the
county.
I
want
to
point
out
that
the
state
statute
that
allows
us
to
do
this
is
article
43.
105
56
had
some
questions
earlier
about
the
amount
of
that
it
specifically
speaks
to
this.
The
the
county's
ability
to
enact
this.
It
must
be
approved
as
a
referendum.
C
I
want
to
also
point
out
that
it
the
system
may
include
one
or
more
of
the
following
structures:
improvements,
buildings,
equipment,
vehicle
parking
or
passenger
transit
facilities,
so
they're
there.
Those
are
the
pieces
of
what
can
be
that
money
can
be
spent
on
it,
isn't
simply
just
buying
buses,
as
well
as
interconnecting
bicycle
and
pedestrian
infrastructure.
C
C
So
this
is
an
action
plan
for
how
we
would
propose
to
move
forward.
We
would
need
to
work
with
the
county
to
update
the
transit
plan,
and
in
doing
so,
it
would
be
looking
at
other
options
of
providing
transit
into
the
county,
as
well
as
providing
others
other
amenities
that
are
allowed
within
the
statute.
It
would
require
that
we
partner
heavily
with
the
county
to
do
this.
We
cannot
and
would
not
have
an
option
of
doing
this
without
the
county
being
fully
on
board.
C
So
there
would
be
a
lot
of
discussions
with
the
county
about
how
they
would
want
to
see
that
happen,
a
lot
of
working
with
the
city
and
doing
that,
the
county.
We
would
propose
that
the
county
would
take
all
the
the
action
that
that
board
would
need
to
take
during
the
spring
and
summer
of
2020,
and
then
we
would
propose
if
council
approves
to
move
this
item
forward
in
the
fall
2020
on
the
in
the
fall
election.
As
a
referendum,
any
questions
about
that
one.
So
now
we
move
to
prepared
food
and
beverage
tax.
C
We
won't
act
like
this
as
easy
either.
There
have
not
been
a
lot
of
communities
who
have
been
able
to
do
that,
and
we
certainly
know
that
we
would
not
be
able
to
do
it
without
having
significant
partnership
with
our
community,
with
our
business
community
and
with
our
community
as
a
whole.
I
will
point
out
that
there
is
only
one
other
city
that
I
have
seen
that
has
not
gone
directly
to
the
state
to
ask
for
the
additional
1%.
C
C
The
benefits
I
do
also
want
to
point
out
that
we
have
a
significant
great
partnership
with
a
lot
of
our
restaurants
within
our
community.
I
have
statistics
just
for
the
Asheville,
independent
restaurants,
but
I'm
sure,
there's
ones
that
are
not
partners
there
that
contribute
significantly
to
our
community.
C
91%
of
all
error'
members
contribute
to
local
nonprofits.
The
average
value
of
donations
from
our
members
was
about
$20,000
in
2017.
This
represents
about
2.1
4
million
of
charitable
contributions
that
these
restaurants
have
made.
They
employ
over
500,
6,000
people
and
I.
Think
it's
interesting
to
look
at
the
fact
that
their
wages
of
non
tipped
employees
is
1375
for
tipped.
C
This
would
allow
for
increased
cleanliness
and
business
districts
that
have
a
lot
of
restaurants.
It
could
increase
Public,
Safety
increase,
sidewalk
maintenance
in
these
areas
and,
additionally,
help
contribute
to
improvements
to
the
Thomas
Wolfe
auditorium.
For
example,
the
cities
that
have
successfully
done
this
in
different
areas
have
adopted
kind
of
logos.
C
A
C
What
I
would
point
out
with
this
with
all
of
our
research
without
our
local
community,
supporting
us
I,
don't
think,
there's
any
option
any
question
as
to
whether
or
not
we
would
be
approved
at
the
state
level
for
this
so
I
think
as
an
action
step.
It's
really
working
with
our
local
partners
to
be
able
to
understand
and
move
forward
and
evaluate
what
their
needs
are.
C
One
of
the
unique
things
is
the
collection
process.
When
cities
do
this,
only
there
is
a
uniqueness
around
the
collection,
because,
typically
all
these
taxes
are
submitted
to
the
state
when
it
comes
to
a
meal
taxes,
the
other
places
that
have
it
the
money
is
remitted
directly
to
either
the
county
or
the
city.
So
the
process
of
working
with
restaurants
and
those
providers
to
set
up
processes
so
that
they
can
remit
it
directly
to
the
city
is
something
that
we
have
to
acknowledge.
C
Would
be
an
additional
burden
on
them,
and
so
the
city
would
need
to
work
closely
to
help
either
offset
the
cost
associated
with
that
with
part
of
this
revenue
or
to
understand
what
it
would
take
to
do
that
and
then
again
moved
her
referendum
in
the
fall
of
2020
again,
what
I
would
say
is
some
of
the
tension.
The
community
feels
around
tourism
around
around
the
increased
population.
I
think
could
be
addressed
through
these
measures,
so
next
steps
and
that
I'm
going
to
be
quiet.
C
The
next
steps
we
want
to
reassure
you
that
staff
is
always
looking
and
exploring
other
revenue
options,
just
like
a
portfolio
that
anybody
would
have
for
anything
that
they're
working
on.
We
know
that
we
are
vulnerable
because
we
are
so
limited
in
our
revenue
streams,
having
only
the
ability
to
have
fees
and
charges
and
sales
and
property
taxes
limits
us
and
makes
us
vulnerable
to
any
economic
times
that
happen.
So
we
constantly
evaluate
that.
C
We
that
the
next
action
we
would
be
looking
for
direction
from
the
city
man
to
the
city
manager
would
be
to
update
the
maps.
The
transit
master
plan,
in
conjunction
with
the
county,
to
identify
how
improvements
could
be
made
into
the
county
to
be
able
to
meet
the
needs
of
the
community
as
a
whole,
and
then
the
third
bullet
is
directs
the
city
manager
to
engage
the
engage,
the
community
on
these
alternatives
and
that
would
be
meeting
with
local
partners
like
the
actual
independent
restaurants.
C
The
Asheville
area,
Chamber
of
Commerce,
Council
of
independent
business
owners,
Asheville,
lodging
association,
Asheville,
bed-and-breakfast,
Association
and
kind
of
within
that
time
frame
to
sit
down
and
have
conversations
and
then
develop
and
implement
a
plan
for
full
community
engagement.
So
this
is
the
direction
we're
looking
from
for
from
Council
today
and
at
this
point
in
time
that
that's
the
end
of
my
lengthy
presentation,
caffeine.
D
Just
one
quick
question,
the
other.
The
other
question
that
I
asked
for
you
guys
was
was
asking
whether
there
were
other
types
of
special.
You
know
enabling
legislation
that
other
cities
North
Carolina
had
that
had
other
revenue
options
and
I
realized.
You
guys
may
not
have
had
time
to
do
that
between
now
and
then
did
you
guys,
look
and
not
find
any
or
have
you
just
not
had
the
opportunity
to
do.
C
That
yet
revenue
options
that
are
available
to
other
communities.
Above
and
beyond
this
there
there
may
be
any
of
the
question
of
some
of
these
like
a
bid.
For
example,
you
don't
generate
as
much
revenue,
so
there
are
some
very
small
ones
that
just
don't
generate
very
much
revenue
at
all
and
don't
really
address
the
imbalance
that
we
have
with
services
and
who
pays
so
so
the
we
did
evaluate
and
look
at
what
other
cities
have
done
within
North
Carolina,
and
these
are
the
options
available
to
us.
Okay,.
F
I
wanted
to
hear
a
little
bit
more
about
the
strategy
that
you
suggested
because,
in
my
opinion,
the
food
security
option
that
you
gave
well.
Let
me
go
here
when
we're
talking
about
fast
food
or
prepare
foods
for
low-income
communities
or
the
working
poor
I.
Don't
think
it
really
has
to
do
much
with
food
security
as
it
has
to
do
with
convenience,
because
people
are
working
all
the
time
and
they
don't
have
time
to
prepare
their
food.
F
C
I
think
that
I
think
it's
an
opportunity
for
us
to
engage
with
folks
who
are
providing
for
this
service
to
see
how
that
can
be
made
easier.
I
mean
some
of
the
things
that
just
come
off.
The
you
know
the
top
of
my
head
is
that
a
lot
of
folks
nowadays,
who
can
who
can't
afford,
are
getting
these
boxes
of
food
delivered
to
their
home
that
they
can
prepare
and
cook
those
are
quite
expensive.
C
If
we
work
through
some
of
our
local
nonprofit
nonprofits,
is
it
possible
to
have
some
of
those
boxes
delivered
to
people's
homes
so
that
it
makes
it
easier
for
them
to
prepare
food
at
home?
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
what
we
could
do.
I
think
there
is
a
significant
amount
of
revenue
that
could
be
put
aside
to
working
with
folks
who
do
this
all
the
time.
C
I
think
the
answers
to
these
questions
really
lie
in
in
community
and
getting
with
folks
and
saying
what
would
make
it
easier
for
you
to
be
able
to
do
that
and
offer
healthier
options.
But
if
there
were
lot
lower
cost
options
of
having
food
delivered
to
homes
in
boxes
that
have
healthy,
healthy
food,
I,
don't
know
what
all
of
the
different
options
are.
C
We
don't
have
the
answers,
but
what
we
would
ask
you
to
do
is
that
we
would
start
having
those
conversations,
so
people
could
open
it
up
and
say
what
are
some
of
the
things
that
look
different.
That's
just
one
off
the
top
of
my
head.
That
I
know
a
lot
of
folks
do,
but
those
are
very
expensive
services,
because.
F
B
C
It's
alright
I
think
we
bring
that
forward
through
an
equity
lens
to
say
this
is
what
we
would
try
to
do,
but
you
know
we're
going
to
stand
before.
You
would
be
honest
with
you
about
the
negative
impacts
of
anything
that
you
do.
What
we
would
do
is
try
to
have
those
conversations,
but
we
don't
want
to.
We
don't
want
to
sugarcoat
it
and
make
you
think
that
that
those
impacts
aren't
real,
but
we
would
try
to
work
with
community
partners
to
come
up
with
options
of
being
able
to
offset
that.
C
A
And
and
I
think
if
we
were
to
give
direction
to
staff
to
further
explore
this
one
of
the
first
steps
would
be
to
try
to
get
some
good
numbers
to
see
what
kind
of
impacts
were
really
talking
about.
I
mean
we
can
we
can
kind
of
kick
gas
through
our
anecdotal
experience,
what
it
might
be,
but
I
always
seem
surprised
by
what
the
data
actually
shows
so
I
mean
I.
Think
we'd
want
to
look
at
that,
try
to
figure
out
what
kind
of
would
that
mean
on
your
average
family
of
four
or
you
know.
A
How
does
that
really
translate
and
because
it
does
include
all
prepared
foods
so
when
you
think
of
fine
dining,
all
the
way
to
McDonald's
or
whatever
or
the
deli
prepared
foods
and
engels,
or
something
like
that,
so
we
you
know
we'd
need
to
look
at
that
and
then
being
a
quarter
cent
or
at
one
percent
to
just
sort
of
in
real-time.
What
is
that
amount
of
money?
You
know
what
does
that
really
look
like
yeah.
C
And
so
it's
very
interesting
that
the
deep
research
that
we've
done
is
very
telling
in
that
of
the
amount
of
money
that
that
you
would
receive
in
in
this
sales
tax
or
excuse
me,
food
and
beverage
tax
about
half
of
it
would
come
from
tourism.
So
you
would
look
at
a
significant
amount
of
that
coming
from
people
who
are
eating
all
their
meals
for
the
most
part
when
they're
here
through
the
equity
lens,
though
even
if
you're
only
paying
a
smaller
amount
of
those
funds.
C
It's
a
bigger
part
of
your
take-home
pay
paper,
so
the
impact
is
significant.
Even
the
amount
of
revenue
that
we
generate
is
is
much
different
and
so
we're
trying
to
acknowledge
those
things
as
we
walk
as
we
walk
through
this
carefully.
We
know
that
it
does
change
the
balance
from
the
money
that
we
bring
in,
but
how
it
affects
folks
ability
to
pay
is
what
we're
also
trying
to
evaluate
as
well.
A
Well,
and
for
that
matter,
the
quarter
cent
sales
tax
concept
as
well.
It's
a
it's
a
smaller
tax,
but
it
spread
out
over
all
trans
all
sales
tax
transactions
countywide.
So
it
brings
in
quite
a
bit
more
revenue
where
the
individual
impact
you
be.
If
you
see
how
it
compares.
You
know
if
you're,
if
you're
dealing
with
only
something
that's
a
quarter
cent,
but
it's
gonna
apply
to
well
multiply
it
up.
A
Foods
food
like
it
grocery
food,
but
it
would
apply
to
your
bike,
clothing
or
you
know
other
transactions
that
are
subject
to
the
full
sales
tax.
So
to
try
to
explore
this
I
mean
we're.
We
don't
have
a
scalpel
to
try
to
tax
visitors,
we're
limited
in
our
tools,
so
we're
trying
to
find
the
tools
that
best.
C
After
our
conversations,
this
is
really
our
first
cut
at
coming
from
you
with
what
other
cities
do
and
the
amount
of
revenue
we're
very
open.
Once
we
have
conversations
with
our
partners
with
our
community
with
other
folks
who
do
a
lot
of
equity
work
in
the
community,
this
could
change
some.
What
we
want
to
create,
we
don't
want
just
just
a
new
path.
We
want
a
better
path.
C
C
E
I
mean
I,
guess
I'm,
wondering
from
from
an
equity
from
an
equity
perspective,
splitting
out
the
food
and
not
taxing
food,
but
maybe
taxing
just
beverages
and
maybe
not
just
a
1%,
but
actually
more
than
that.
I'm
just
wondering
if
you
could
make
up
the
revenue
if
the
tax
is
higher.
If
you
could
make
up
the
revenue
that
you
would
lose
from
not
including
food
and.
E
E
They
do
tech
so
knows
I'm,
not
right
and
I.
Guess
no,
no,
that's
not
where
I'm
headed
I
mean
it's,
it's
really
I
mean
it
would
really
be.
We
have
a
lot
of
people
who
come
here
to
drink
beer
and
sorry
to
all
of
our
brewery
friends,
but
that
is
that
is
what
happens.
The
the
other
thing
and
I've
I've
had
conversations
with
some
of
you
about
this.
E
A
So
that's
going
to
look
for
some
direction
on
this
and
I.
Don't
think
we're
talking
about
here
today,
whether
we're
saying
oh
yeah,
we
want
to
go
ahead
and
move
forward
with
these
ideas.
Obviously
each
of
these
ideas
isn't
even
ours
unilaterally
to
decide
upon,
but
I
think
we
just.
We
need
to
give
staff
an
indication
of
whether
or
not
we'd
like
to
advance
this
conversation.
A
Do
some
more
research
and
take
a
look
at
each
of
these
options,
more
in-depth
to
sort
of
weigh
them
and
also
begin
that
process
of
reaching
out
to
the
community
and
the
stakeholders
that
are
going
to
be
a
need
to
be
at
the
table.
As
a
part
of
this
conversation
and
ultimately,
I
mean
all
of
these
arrive
at
the
voters
doorstep
to
consider
if
we
were
to
successfully
advance
them
so
is
there?
G
Interested
to
move
in
the
Station
floor,
it
I
think
at
this
point
in
time.
It's
it's
worth
mentioning
that
you
know
there
are
no
clear
pathways
forward,
considering
that
this
is
not
something
again
that
we
can
unilaterally
do
and
I
would
welcome
County
commissioners
to
have
a
conversation
as
well
as
constituents
be
involved
with
councilmembers
and
County
Commissioners
on
what
they
think,
but
it's
definitely
worth
moving
the
ball
forward
and
with
the
sobering
understanding
that
there
is
no
clear
pathway
forward
right
now,
but
we
will
see
what
what
comes
of
it.
D
A
The
way
I've
seen
it
done
is
the
legislation
we're
gonna
have
to
have
enabling
legislation
and
the
legislation
is
where
you
give
the
description
of
the
use
of
the
funds
and
then
that
and
then
you
know,
there's
two
ways
to
do
it.
One
is
just
to
do
legislation
if
the
legislature
will
work
with
you
and
the
other
is
to
do
the
legislation
followed
by
a
vote.
But
the
legislation
is
what
would
include
the
description
of
the
confines
of
the
funds.
All.
D
Right,
and
so
this
is
the
question
where
I
was
getting
at
and
let
me
just
say,
I'm
supportive
of
having
us
having
us
take
a
look
at
this
I.
Think
the
question
of
the
transient
stuff
part
of
my
concern
is
just
trying
to
make
sure
we
in
the
event
that
we,
it
would
be
successful
that
we
would
actually
be
able
to
implement
and
execute
to
be
able
to
use
that,
because
again,
this
issue
we've
had
some
difficulty
with
with
kind
of
operating
a
transit
system
on
the
on
the
the
funding
we
currently
have.
D
D
Discussion
that
we
need
to
have
in
council,
as
well
as
to
how
that
money
may
be
used,
I
mean
if,
if
part
of
the
impetus
for
this
is
to
say
that
we
think
that
that
property
owners
are
bearing
too
much
of
the
burden
of
providing
the
services,
which
I
think
is
true.
And
if
you
look
at
this,
we
are
heavily
dependent
on
property
tax.
You
know
question
in
my
mind,
is
well.
D
Could
some
of
this
food
and
beverage
tax
actually
supplant
some
of
the
property
taxes
that
folks
are
paying
so
that
it's
not
necessarily
additional
monies
that
we're
spending
the
future,
but
perhaps
some
ability
to
have
it
not
have
to
have
the
property
tax
either
increase,
or
perhaps
to
transfer
some
of
that?
Some
of
that
property
tax
out
so
I
think
those
are
discussions
that
were
going
to
need
to
have
I
figure
out.
What
might
as
well
mention
that
now,
since
or
since
were
going
through
this
work
session,
but
I
am
supportive
of
having
us.
G
I
want
to
piggyback
off
of
what
council
women
may
feel
said,
particularly
about
the
beverage
tax,
to
be
able
to
specifically
look
and
see
if
there
is
possibility
for
the
specific
tax
on
alcoholic
beverages
not
and
take
away
the
food
part,
but
can
we
do
we
have
that
ability
to
do
that?
So
that
is
something
that
I
have
a
particular
interest
in
as
well
as
council.
My
field
comes
from
a
fund,
so.
A
A
With
at
least
taking
the
next
step
of
kind
of
doing
a
deeper
dive,
I'm
looking
at
each
one
of
these
options
and
frozen
cons
and
how
they
really
will
work,
so
all
right,
I
see
yep.
We
have
a
consensus
up
here.
Okay,
that
is
the
only
presentation
of
there.
Any
other
questions
of
staff
comments
before
we'll
take
a
break
before
council
starts
at
5:00.
Anything
else
all
right.
Thank
you
very
much
for
putting
that
together.