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A
Okay,
we
are
live.
Welcome
to
the
Asheville
city
council.
Meeting
I
am
going
to
remind
everyone
to
please
silence
their
cell
phones.
A
Also
just
a
reminder:
if
you
would
like
to
speak
during
tonight's
meeting,
we
have
a
sign
up
sheet
at
the
desk
outside
the
door.
Please
feel
free
at
any
time
to
go
sign
up
if
you
haven't
already
under
the
agenda
item
for
which
you
would
like
to
speak,
and
we
will
Begin
by
Rising
for
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance
foreign.
A
Okay,
we're
going
to
begin
our
agenda
as
we
always
do
with
our
consent
agenda.
We
have
a
request
to
vote
on
item
I
separately.
C
A
D
A
Sorry,
all
right.
All
right
do
I,
have
a
motion
to
approve
item
I
and
then
we'll
or
actually
I'm.
Sorry.
First,
any
questions
or
comments
regarding
item
I
and
or
a
motion
to
adopt
item
I.
C
We
had
a
discussion
during
Public
Safety,
a
pretty
lengthy
discussion
during
Public
Safety
about
forfeiture
programs
in
general,
and
we
all
had
different
I
guess
nuanced
thoughts
about
why
we
should
or
why
we
shouldn't,
but
personally
forfeiture
programs,
they're
kind
of
compromising
to
me
because
a
lot
of
times
the
the
money
is
spent
allotted
and
spent
before
an
arrest
or
conviction
is
made
and
to
be
specific,
we.
C
Okay,
well,
regardless
the
specific
to
how
we're
spending
the
money
I
believe
that
our
number
one
issue
right
now
is
a
lot
of
gun
violence.
So,
while
we
cannot,
as
a
council,
we
can't
direct
the
police
department
on
how
to
spend
the
funds.
We
can't
make
policy
around
how
the
the
funding
is
spent.
C
I
do
believe
that
there
should
be
a
Community
Vision
around
the
spending
and,
as
we
have
it
now,
we
have
three
items
and
I
do
believe
that
they
are
an
asset
to
our
our
department
and
will
help
on
the
on
the
reactive
side
or
responding
to
Crime,
but
I
think
right
now
there
is
an
outcry
for
us
to
be
more,
have
more
preventative
measures.
A
Well,
I
was
going
to
offer.
I
did
have
a
chance
to
watch
the
public
safety
meeting
today
and
thank
you
guys
for
spending
so
much
time
on
that
I
know.
We
have
a
number
of
officers
here,
as
well
as
our
chief
in
case,
there's
any
questions
or
concerns
about
this
item.
So
what
we're
talking
about
here
is
a
forfeiture
program.
The
amount
of
money
involved
in
this
is
419
000
plus,
and
this
is
monies
that
have
been
forfeited
by
the
federal
government
to
the
city
to
be
used
in
very
confined
ways.
A
If,
if
you
will
I
did
ask
the
City
attorney
to
confirm
that
these
monies
derive
from
lawsuits
that
have
re
have
reached
final
adjudication
and
what
they
have
been
able
in
the
just
a
very
few
minutes,
not
much
time
to
confirm.
That
is
that
the
monies
are
only
put
into
this
fund
after
a
judge
orders
that
they
can
be
so
so
somehow,
there's
been
some
determination
within
the
case
that
the
the
that
a
joke,
because
I
had
that
question
too
about
at
what.
E
D
F
F
I'll
speak
loudly.
Thank
you
mayor,
so
we
we
did
take
a
look
into
this
and
have
been
continuing
to
review
the
process
that
the
doj,
the
Department
of
Justice,
lays
out
for
these
forfeiture
proceedings
and
I
say
forfeiture,
because
that
is
a
separate
legal
proceeding
dealing
with
taking
seize
assets,
whether
it
is
something
like
a
vehicle
cash,
any
of
those
types
of
things
and
essentially
taking
control
of
it
at
the
federal
level
that
is
separate
from
any
sort
of
criminal
prosecution
that
would
be
going
on.
F
At
the
same
time
and
directly
from
the
forfeiture
manual,
which
the
doj
publishes,
they
State
very
clearly
that
the
fourth
interaction
should
always
follow
or
come
after
the
criminal
action
not
run
parallel
to
create
potentially
the
very
problems
and
the
questions
that
council
members
have
raised
so
per
the
manual.
The
doj
essentially
prescribes
that
you,
you
allow
the
criminal
prosecution
to
take
place
to
maintain
any
of
the
assets
as
potential
evidence,
and
then
only
thereafter.
A
So
then,
thank
you
for
that.
Some
other
questions
that
I
heard
come
up
during
the
meeting
was:
can
These
funds
be
used
to
say
be
allocated
to
outside
the
agency,
and
the
answer
that
we
heard
was:
the
cap
is
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
per
year,
total
from
from
the
money,
so
not
a
not
a
significant
amount
of
funds,
and
they
also
can't
be
used
for
salaries,
so
so
pretty
pretty
narrow
in
terms
of
what
what
they
can
be
used
for.
A
We
also
heard
that,
apparently
under
federal
law,
the
city
council
cannot
direct
the
use
of
these
funds.
They
have
to
receive
a
recommendation
from
the
Department
so
that
that's,
that
was
a
piece
of
it
that
we
learned
as
well.
So
we
have.
We
have
recommendations
right
now
before
us,
for
what
these
funds
should
be
used
for
and
I
don't
know.
If
anyone
wants
to
briefly
State
what
those.
C
We
talked
about
that
maybe
Public,
Safety
and
I
think
we
came
to
the
conclusion
that
if
the
money
were
spent
in
an
outside
agency,
25
000
cap
would
not
make
a
substantial
impact
towards
the
community's
wish
list,
which
is
to
move
move
in
towards
Youth
Development
programs.
Maybe
violent,
violent
interrupter
programs,
so
25
000
annually
may
not
make
that
Mark.
Nevertheless,
I
do
believe
that
there
are
some
law
enforcement
activities
that
can
support
Community
towards
anti-violence
and
anti-gun
violence
to
be,
in
particular,.
G
So
I've
Consolidated
some
of
my
thoughts
on
this.
The
ACLU
American
civil
liberties
Union,
has
borne
in
general
around
asset
seizure,
cautioning
against
policing
for
profit.
It
risks
the
integrity
and
Trust
of
our
organization,
as
it
becomes
the
burden
of
the
resident
to
challenge
asset
seizure
even
before
they
are
found
guilty.
Asheville's
own
participation
in
missing
evidence,
room
items
during
Ron
Moore's
tenure
in
2014
is
not
forgotten.
This
is
a
lot
of
cash.
We
need
to
know
where
it
came
from
and
how
it'll
help
us
to
reach
our
goals.
G
These
resources
were
extracted
in
part
from
neighborhoods,
most
impacted
by
the
failed
War
on
Drugs
and
it's
our
responsibility
to
ensure
Equitable
Services
that
return
those
resources
to
the
neighborhoods
they
were
extracted
from.
We
have
limited
staff.
We
have
deep
needs
in
addressing
the
root
causes
of
violent
crime.
I
know
that
I
share
concerns
around
us,
I'm,
supportive
of
training
and,
in
fact,
I've
asked
if
more
of
those
resources
might
go
towards
training
to
address,
met,
Youth
mentorship
and
violence.
G
Interrupter
programming
and
my
ask
Remains
the
Same,
as
from
the
Public
Safety
Committee,
that
we
return
this
discussion
to
the
Public
Safety
Committee
next
month
to
get
that
more
information.
If
it
goes
to
vote
at
this
time,
I'm
of
the
opinion
that
we
don't
have
enough
information
on
the
demographics
of
impacted
folks,
who've
been
having
their
assets
seized
on
how
it
will
be
available
or
used,
and
so
I
can't
support
as
a
matter
of
principle.
B
Go
ahead,
may
I
make
a
motion
that
we
delay
this
so
that
Public
Safety
can
get
a
little
further
information
from
from
APD
and
have
further
discussion.
Second,.
C
And
I
would
say
to
that.
We
pushed
this
issue
and
we
push
that
point.
Can
we
bring
it
back?
Can
we
have
a
different
itemized
list
of
things
that
you
can
spend
on
and
we
exhausted
that
conversation
at
this
point
I
believe
it's
time
for
a
vote.
H
Nick,
it's
absolutely
correct,
like
she
said
as
far
as
additional
information
that
you
don't
have
that
we
were
able
to
get
from
from
Public
Safety
and
basically,
if
it's
any
way
that
maybe
the
police
captain
that
can
maybe
speak
to
that
to
explain
that,
to
or.
H
A
A
Conversation
I,
what
I
heard
remaining
were
concerns
about
the
concept
of
this
program
in
general,
which
is
a
federal
program
and
I
think
you
know.
Obviously
we
don't
have
control
over
whether
this
program
exists.
It
exists,
I
mean,
maybe
the
federal
government
will
revisit
this
program
and
others
like
it.
I
don't
know,
but
this
is
kind
of
we're
all
the
way.
It's
already
trickled
all
the
way
down
to
this
point
in.
B
A
J
The
dress
item
I
I,
understand
that
the
provisions
around
this
money
are
very
specific
about
what
sort
of
thing
that
they
can
be
used
for
and
I'm
not
going
to
even
address
the
issue
of
civil
asset
forfeitures
in
general.
It's
a
hornet's
nest,
I
note
that
this
4119
thousand
dollars
and
change
has
accrued
since
2019,
so
it
represents
approximately
three
years
worth
of
Monies
that
are
now
being
put
to
use.
J
That
suggests
to
me
that
looking
forward,
there
may
be
something
on
the
order
of
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year
coming
into
City
coffers
from
this
program.
Let's
just
say
it
continues.
At
that
rate,
that's
just
a
guess:
I
understand
that
this
money
can
only
be
spent
in
certain
ways,
but
we
all
know
that
cash
is
fungible
and
so
I
suggest
that
going
forward
when
we
consider
what
might
happen
with
funds
going
to
the
police
department.
J
The
idea
here
is
to
provide
an
incentive
for
Recruitment
and
Retention
for
people
in
the
police
force.
Asheville
is
an
expensive
place
to
live
and
I
don't
know
about
you,
but
I
would
like
to
see
the
people
charged
with
protecting
and
serving
our
community
being
able
to
live
in
it
to
live
amongst
the
people
that
they
are
charged
with,
serving
having
the
opportunity
to
become
embedded
in
a
community
to
be
in
neighborhoods,
where
people
will
know
them
and
recognize
them
interact
with
them
in
a
casual,
neighborly
fashion.
J
I
think
this
is
something
that,
unfortunately,
we
haven't
been
requiring
in
the
past.
I
would
like
to
see
going
forward
that,
as
people
enter,
our
police
force
that
they
live
in
this
city
and
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year
would
go
a
long
way
to
making
that
possible
for
people
entering
our
police
force.
A
K
A
L
Thank
you
mayor
and
Council
and
I
have
three
items
I'd
like
to
share
with
you
tonight
as
part
of
the
managers
report:
I
somewhat
apologize
for
the
number
of
items
on
this
agenda,
but
for
the
past
couple
of
meetings,
I've
not
had
an
item
on
the
agenda,
so
I'm
kind
of
making
up
for
lost
time
in
the
months
that
I
missed.
L
So
the
three
items
I
have
for
tonight
are
first,
and
this
is
one
that
I
really
really
am
so
pleased
to
present
to
you
an
employee
recognition
and
recognition
with
the
Asheville
Fire
Department.
That
I
will
recognize.
Second,
is
an
update
on
the
comprehensive
facility
study
that
will
be
presented
by
Walter,
ear
and
Jay
Dundas.
Then
third
is
an
update
on
Memorial
Stadium,
Mountainside
Park
that
will
be
presented
by
our
Recreation
director
of
D
Tyrell
mcgirt,
and
if
you
can
go
to
the
the
next
slide,
so
key
table.
L
D
L
Great
all
right
next
slide,
please
so
on
August
the
7th
Asheville
Police
Department
Captain
Anna
Pigman,
came
across
a
house
fire
on
Fairfax
Avenue,
while
driving
by,
although
off
duty,
Captain
Pigman
left
her
car
and
headed
toward
the
burning
building
in
civilian
clothes.
When
she
heard
a
call
for
help
that
someone's
still
inside
she
noticed
her
afd
colleagues
had
not
yet
arrived
and
knew
she
needed
to
take
action.
L
Captain
Pigman
immediately
approached
the
burning
house
and
walked
around
to
the
side
where
she
found
a
man
crawling
out
of
a
door
from
a
room
full
of
smoke.
She
quickly
ascended
the
stairs
and
assisted
in
pulling
the
man
out
of
the
door
away
from
the
building.
The
man
was
transported
to
the
hospital
for
smoke
inhalation
and
burned
injuries.
He
was
later
released
from
the
hospital
and
is
expected
to
make
a
full
recovery
next
slide.
Please
our
city
of
Asheville
hero,
the
actions
of
Captain
Pigman,
undoubtedly
saved
this
man's
life.
L
Chief
Burnett
presented
Captain
Pigman
with
the
chief's
challenge
coin.
For
her
exemplary
service.
She
will
also
be
recognized
as
their
annual
awards
banquet.
The
city
of
Asheville
is
proud
of
Captain
Anna,
Weezy
Pigman
and
the
exemplary
courage
she
displayed
next
slide.
Please
so
thank
you,
Captain
Pigman
and
if
you
would
come
up
and
be
recognized
and
I
would
like
to
recognize
her
in
a
different
way.
L
L
You
don't
like
all
the
hoopla,
but
we
just
truly
want
to
say.
Thank
you.
I
think
you
took
an
opportunity
based
upon
your
dedication
and
your
service,
your
this
isn't
a
job
for
you,
it's
it's
it's
what
you
do,
and
so
we
we
just
want
to
just
want
to.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
and
I'm
sure
that
Man's
family
thanked.
J
A
D
O
D
O
Behavioral
health
support
for
First
Responders
throughout
our
region.
She
also
teaches
all
of
our
new
recruits
stress,
first
aid
and
all
of
our
new
supervisors.
Stress
first
aid
as
well,
so
I
didn't
want
to
not
take
this
opportunity
to
to
not
only
recognize
her
as
the
hero
that
she
is
on
that
day,
but
here,
as
she
is
every
day
to
her
first
responder.
L
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much
and
the
next
item
and
Walter
ear
and
Jay
Dundas
with
a
capital
projects.
Department
I
know
that's
a
tough
act
to
follow,
but
this
issue
is
equally
as
important.
So
I'll
turn
it
over
to
you
Jay
and
then
to
Walter.
R
Q
Council
Jay
Dundas
capital
projects
director
in
and
we
we
committed
in
the
spring
to
providing
you
with
additional
information
follow-up
information
regarding
a
lot
of
our
projects
and
how
we're
moving
through
things
comprehensive
facility
study
is
something
that
we're
really
deep
in
right
now
and
really
trying
to
work
and
intently
to
get
through
this.
So
we
can
inform
our
future
Capital
planning
and
budgeting.
So
with
that,
Walter
gave
a
great
presentation
last
spring
and
he's
going
to
bring
that
back
up
to
you
today
and
I'll
turn
it
over
to
Walter.
S
Good
evening
Council
staff
mayor,
thank
you
for
letting
me
join
you
here
today.
My
name
is
Walter
ear,
I'm,
the
building
construction
program
manager
in
the
capital
projects
Department.
This
is
an
update
of
the
comprehensive
facility
study
presentation
that
I
gave
to
Council
in
March
and
similar
to
the
last
meeting.
I've
got
a
lot
of
slides,
but
also
a
lot
of
pictures
to
keep
the
audience
engaged
and
hopefully
keep
the
content
moving
quickly
for
these,
sometimes
dry
topic
of
facilities
feel
free
to
interrupt.
S
If
you
have
any
questions
after
this
presentation,
I
hope
you
walk
away
with
the
following
key
takeaways.
The
facility
study
will
present
maintenance
needs
and
expected
growth
as
a
lens
through
which
we
prioritize
our
facilities
and
Associated
projects.
S
We
will
gain
long-term
capital
planning
and
forecasting
tools
that
will
help
us
think
through
our
projects
in
increments
of
five
and
ten
years
and
Beyond.
Lastly,
we
have
a
handful
of
proposed
large-scale
multi-year
projects
on
the
books.
These
projects
exceed
our
current
CIP
funding
and
we
have
some
Prep
Prep
work
to
do
if
we
want
to
propose
and
acquire
different
additional
resources
to
make
these
projects
a
reality.
S
So
here's
an
overview
of
the
presentation
first,
a
recap
of
why
we're
doing
the
study.
What
we're
currently
working
on
and
project
timelines
facilities
are
a
service
platform
as
the
city
grows
and
expands.
Services
additional
facilities
may
be
needed
to
accommodate
that
growth
in
an
Ideal,
World
growth
and
services
would
occur
in
a
planned
and
sequence
with
the
facilities
needed
to
provide
those
Services
growing.
T
S
S
S
We've
inherited
a
situation
in
which
70
percent
of
City
buildings
are
more
than
50
years
old,
which
is
generally
known
as
the
expected
useful
life
of
a
building.
Some
of
those
buildings
have
received
a
life-extending
major
renovations,
but
not
all
improvements
extend
the
life
of
a
building
as
a
whole.
We
can't
say
for
certain
whether
I
can't
say
for
certain
whether
those
past
improvements
are
in
facilities
that
we
want
to
keep
for
the
next
20
or
30
years.
S
This
study
will
help
the
city
determine
which
buildings
we
want
to
breathe
an
additional
20
or
30
years
of
life
into
drive.
This
point
home
in
March
meeting
I
gave
this
car
analogy.
Some
buildings
are
like
a
classic
car,
beautiful
design,
but
lacking
modern
conveniences,
like
air
conditioning
and
automated
features
similar
to
our
city
hall,
with
the
nearly
100
year
old
elevators,
the
manual
elevators
that
we
just
recently
automated
this
past
year.
S
S
S
Vehicle,
if
our
goal
is
to
buy
the
electric
vehicle
of
buildings,
there's
no
other
way
to
buy
that
than
to
just
buy
that
EV,
and
to
that
last
point,
I
actually
found
that
you
can
retrofit
a
car
to
be
an
EV
and
we
can
do
the
same
with
our
buildings.
But
before
that
electric
motor
was
plugged
into
this
now,
you
know
classic
truck
the
underlying
truck
itself
had
to
be
restored.
S
So,
similarly,
before
we
start
retrivating
existing
buildings,
we
need
to
evaluate
which
of
them
are
worth
investing
the
time
and
effort
to
keep
preserve,
restore
before
we
convert
them
to
a
more
sustainable
future
or
which
of
them.
We
simply
need
to
trade
in
and
replace
and
let
go
of
or
let
go
of
altogether.
S
S
S
S
The
study
will
develop
a
facility
condition
index
or
FCI
similar
to
the
PCI
or
pavement
condition
index
used
by
Public
Works
to
communicate
their
maintenance
needs.
There
are
other
lenses
that
can
be
used,
but
we
believe
that
the
maintenance
lens
is
an
essential
part
starting
point
for
our
facilities.
S
The
study
will
also
evaluate
facilities,
growth
as
it
relates
to
population
and
staff
growth.
People
incorporate
past
studies
that
evaluated
proposed
service
expansions
and
the
facility
growth
needed
to
handle
that
expansion
and
the
study
will
evaluate
and
confirm
whether
future
fire
and
police
projects
are
in
the
right
areas
of
the
city,
growth
and
expanded.
Service
delivery
will
provide
another
layer
to
the
prioritization
lens.
S
S
This
includes
projects
like
the
public
works
department,
relocation
and
the
new,
a
new
Transit
maintenance
facility
and
or
the
renovation
of
the
Thomas
wolf
Auditorium.
These
are
projects
that
exceed
our
current
CIP
funding
and,
with
the
possible
exemption
exception
of
land
acquisition.
They'll
require
us
to
consider
this
type
of
timeline
to
plan
and
prepare
for
a
large-scale
multi-year
project.
S
Here's
an
example:
the
type
of
curated
Capital
plan
that
our
consultant
Christian
Associates,
will
propose
it's
a
graphical
approach
needed
to
illustrate
the
proposed
options
on
a
conceptual
basis.
The
important
thing
to
note
is
that,
on
the
top,
we'll
have
our
large
larger
sorry,
our
larger
phase
projects
going
on
up
top
and
we'll
still
have
the
smaller,
but
still
high
priority
projects
buying
for
the
same
Capital
dollars
on
the
bottom.
S
Oh
was
I
not
on
the
right.
Oh
I
was
not
on
the
right.
Sorry
I
was
on
the
right
slide,
pressing
the
buttons,
but
it
didn't
move
supporting
those
Capital
plans
will
be
data.
S
Rich,
Capital
planning
and
forecasting
tools
from
rightly
here
are
some
examples
of
two
communities
that
have
used
the
software
I'll
note
that
technology
gives
the
appearance
that
things
are
simple
to
use,
but
you
know
they
take
time
to
get
to
get
looking
right,
so
I'll
set
up
expectations
that
they'll
this
will
be
available
towards
the
after
the
study's
done,
but
just
to
say
that
they
will
support
this
graphical
plan
with
the
rich
data.
S
Lastly,
for
the
timeline
for
the
study
we'll
come
back
later
this
year
with
a
FCI
with
the
results
of
the
FTI
assessment
and
sometime
next
year,
we'll
have
a
capital
planning
information
to
bring
to
your
attention
and
then,
at
the
summer,
June
of
next
year,
we'll
be
able
to
provide
additional
I'm.
Sorry,
the
final
presentation
of
the
studies,
findings
and
for
adoption
of
a
comprehensive
facility
master
plan
in
summer.
S
Here,
the
studies
deliverables
they're
a
little
more
here
than
we
were
I-
was
able
to
get
into
in
this
presentation
and
then,
lastly,
you
know
all
maybe
familiar
with
the
expression.
S
How
do
you
do
an
elephant
one
bite
at
a
time
so
I'd
like
you
to
consider
these
bite-sized
takeaways?
There
are
many
lenses
through
which
priorities
are
established.
S
Ultimately,
through
this
lens,
we
may
see
that
if
we
don't
have
enough
resources
to
maintain
or
grow
facilities,
we
may
be
challenged
to
provide
expanded
services
without
those
resources.
We
may
also
discover
what
we
need
to
make
significant
operational
changes
in
order
to
adapt
to
the
constraints
of
City
facilities
and
capital
budgets.
G
G
I've
seen
you
present
this
a
few
times,
but
the
1974
Ford
F-100
was
new
and
I
love.
It
I
love
the
analogies
that
you
bring
and
it
made
me
think
about
a
deconstruction,
ordinance,
I.
G
That
are
concerned
about
preserving
the
cultural
identity
of
Asheville
in
our
neighborhoods
while
we
grow
and
that's
what
that
read
as
to
me,
is
like
an
opportunity
to
use
what
we
have
and
to
honor
what
we
have.
So
thank
you
for
that.
I
wasn't
sure
if
a
deconstruction
ordinance
has
been
brought
up
in
this,
but
I
wanted
to
go
ahead
and
add
it
to
the
conversation.
Thank
you
and
then
another
thing
dashboard.
G
The
dashboard
around
the
bond
program
was
so
helpful
in
maintaining
public
engagement
and
to
continue
to
build
trust
with
our
bond
program.
So
definitely
support
that.
But
I
appreciate,
there's
a
lens
around
growth,
but
we
haven't
heard
of
a
lens
around
equity
and
I
know
that's
a
key
priority
for
this
Council.
So
as
we're
seeing
these
items
come
forward,
I
wonder
what
it
looks
like
for
us
to
have
another
review:
I,
anticipate
we'll
hear
recommendations
from
the
community
reparations
Council,
for
example,
or
how
we
could
apply
our
TDA
funds.
S
We'll
have
results
ready
from
for
that
part
for
the
growth
and
maintenance
lens,
probably
in
the
spring.
I
would
say
next
year
early
next
year
to
be
able
to
present
those
to
consider
and
that's
what
we'll
focus
on
in.
L
And
definitely
a
lot
of
the
information
that's
being
collected
is
really
for
cities,
public
facilities,
and
we
certainly
have
a
lens
of
not
only
Equity
but
sustainability
as
well,
but
in
the
context
of
a
financial
lens
as
well.
I
know
that
you
know
like
this
building
itself,
I
mean
it's
a
jewel,
I
mean.
How
would
you
know,
can
you
ever
not
think
of
having
this
building
in
the
city
of
Asheville?
L
No,
however,
when
it
comes
to
upfitting
and
creating
the
kind
of
space
that
employees
need
to
be
productive
and
and
out
the
the
emotional
well-being
and
safety
there's
a
lot
that
that
we're
going
to
need
to
do
in
order
to
upfit
a
lot
of
our
facilities,
and
then
there
may
be
some
tough
decisions
in
terms
of
do
we
really
is
it
worth
the
reinvestment,
even
though
it
is
kind
of
a
crown
jewel?
But
you
know
there
is
a
financial
context
in
the
land.
H
I
was
just
wondering
basically,
once
we
get
to
a
certain
point:
will
we
be
in
any
kind
of
collaboration
with
the
presentation
Society
on
some
of
these
projects
say,
for
instance,
if
the
cost
is
too
much
for
us
to
bear
and
we
basically
decide
to
move
XYZ
I
was
just
wondering
whether
there
are
any
collaborations
or
conversation
with
the
preservation
on
society,
because
they
may
want
to
step
in
and
sort
of
assist
and
just
wanted
to
see
if
that
was
somewhere
in
your
line
of
planning.
L
Well,
the
one
thing
that
we
will
do
is
keep
Council
informed
at
some
key
milestones,
and-
and
and
this
is
our
we're
touching
base
with
you
to
say-
we
have
launched-
we
have
Consultants
I-
think
I
would
well
actually
I
was
in
the
room
just
behind
this
bill,
this
the
chamber-
and
someone
was
saying
we're
here:
are
they
it
surprised
me?
L
It's
like
we're
here
for
the
facilities,
Master
planning
updates,
so
we're
we're
well
on
our
way,
but
we
definitely
will
be
touching
base
with
full
Council
and
with
the
finance
and
Human
Resources
committee.
A
I
I
just
had
a
kind
of
a
question
about
the
process
itself.
You
know
I
think,
there's
a
tendency
for
people
to
hear
oh
you've
hired
a
consultant
again,
and
that
sounds
like
a
waste
of
money
to
me
and
I'm,
just
wondering
if
you
could
tell
us
I
mean
I
I.
Think
a
lot
of
people
think
well
I
have
to
maintain
my
house
I
just
keep
this
to-do
list.
A
You
know
I'm
gonna
paint
this
bedroom
or
cook
this
kitchen
or
whatever,
but
you're
we're
talking
about
an
incredible
number
of
facilities
and
trying
to
time
everything
correctly
make
these
decisions
about
whether
or
not
it's
worth
the
investment.
When
that
investment
should
happen,
how
it
should
happen
relative
to
the
other
facilities
we
have.
So
my
sense
is
that
the
cost
of
getting
ourselves
organized
and
strategic
around
this
pays
for
itself
in
the
savings
over
the
years,
because
you
did
do
all
this
planning
and
preparation.
A
S
So
with
this
slide,
you
know
this
is
about
900
000
square
feet
of
facilities.
We,
our
overall
portfolio,
is
1.6
million
square
feet.
S
You
know
my
full-time
job
is
to
manage
the
overall
facilities
building
construction
portfolio,
so
it
takes
a
considerable
amount
of
time
that
staff
may
see
folks
walking
around
their
spaces
they're
actively
right
now
sending
a
staff
of
four
people
this
week
to
go
through
a
number
of
buildings.
So
it
simply
takes
a
lot
of
time
to
walk
through
those
buildings
and
then
to
do
it
all
at
the
same
time,
in
the
same
manner
from
the
correct
professional
eye.
You
know
they've
seen
these
buildings
all
over
the
country,
so
it
brings
an
objective
lens.
I.
S
Think
that's!
The
other
thing
too,
is
that
it
takes
an
objective
lens
that
we
see
like
you
know.
If
there's
something
in
your
house,
that's,
maybe
not
exactly
right,
you're
able
to
ignore
it.
You
put
the
blinders
on
because
it
works
it's
fine,
but
thinking
in
that
longer
term
perspective
of
I've
got
to
replace
my
roof
in
eight
years,
because
the
person
who
owned
it
before
me
replaced
it
two
years
before
I
bought
it
I.
S
Don't
think
that
it's
hard
to
get
outside
of
the
the
mindset
of
the
day-to-day
and
start
planning
in
that
10-year
Horizon.
For
that
thing,
that
I
need
to
do
but
I'm
just
putting
off.
So
this
helps
bring
it
to
Sharp
Focus
for
us
now
and
then
also
to
give
us
those
tools
to
be
able
to
do
it
continually
not
just
today,
but
to
be
thinking
again
in
those
those
longer
term
horizons.
With
with
you
know,
tools
to
to
give
us
that
Capital
planning
perspective
over
a
longer
period.
L
And
and
often
time
we
we
just
don't
have
all
of
the
technical
expertise
that
we
need
on
staff,
and
so
we
we're
essentially
are
kind
of
buying
some
additional
expertise
and
approaches
to
how
we
look
at
facilities
and,
as
you
said,
Walter
the
objectivity
of
you
know.
I
can
we
can
they
can
step
back
and
and
literally,
give
us
facts
without
kind
of
that
emotional
attachment
that
that
we
have
sometimes
with
the
with
some
of
the
work
that
we
do.
S
Did
an
assessment
of
condition
only
in
2017,
so
you
typically
do
these
every
five
years
and
since
it's
time
but
I
think
that
the
the
main
difference
between
here
and
there
was
that
we
didn't
look
at
space
needs
so
growth
and
we
also
didn't
really
prior.
We
were
given
a
list,
a
work
plan
essentially
to.
S
L
Lends
is
going
to
be
critical
and
the
connection
to
the
budgetary,
the
financial
expense
of
what
it
will
cost
in
order
for
us
to
do
this
in
a
rational
and
timely
manner.
S
Some
mayor
to
answer
your
question:
there's
a
lot
of
work
there,
a
lot
of
buildings
to
cover.
We
need
the
technical
expertise
from
an
outside
objective
third
party
and
then
there's
all
of
these
other
pieces
of
the
capital.
You
know
it's
just
so
much
funding
required
to
get
these
things
done,
that
all
those
layers
are
are
going
to
be
aided
by
having
an
outside
entity,
provide
that
service
for
us.
L
Thank
you
Walter.
Thank
you.
That's
it
Dee,
Tyrell
I
think
you
are
up
to
give
us
the
update
on
Memorial,
Stadium,
Mountainside,
Park
and
then
once
Dee
concludes
his
presentation.
That
will
conclude
the
manager's
report.
U
Thank
you
for
your
patience,
Madam
mayor
Madam,
vice
mayor
council,
I'm,
D,
Tyrell,
mcgurt,
Parks
and
Recreation
director
here
to
provide
you
with
an
update
on
Memorial,
Stadium
and
Mountainside
Park.
The
purpose
is
just
to
give
you
all
an
update
on
kind
of
where
we
are
with
this
project.
U
Jay
Dundas,
director
of
capital,
Improvement
projects,
is
also
going
to
be
presented
a
little
later
on
in
the
presentation.
Key
takeaways
include
one.
U
The
community
that
we've
spoken
to
on
this
project
thus
far
have
received
the
information,
as
looked
at
its
opportunity
to
look
over
the
information
we
provided
and,
for
the
most
part,
we've
gotten
really
good
responses
on
what's
being
presented
so
far.
The
project
currently
is
at
60
design,
so
this
project
currently
has
its
being
proposed,
is
moving
through
and
advancing
through
the
design
process.
Then.
U
U
Mountains
on
Park
improvements,
but
a
background
history,
just
to
talk
about
the
two
projects
and
improvements
that
we're
making
you
all
remembered.
This
is
Mountainside
Park,
which
is
the
park
that
sits
right
next
to
Memorial
Stadium,
as
well
as
some
improvements
that
we're
making
over
at
Memorial
Stadium
with
Mountainside
Park,
specifically
we're
looking
at
making
some
improvements
to
the
walking
trail
that
currently
exists
in
the
park.
U
There's
a
current
gravel
walking
trail
we'll
look
at
Paving
that
making
it
more
accessible
to
more
people,
we're
looking
at
adding
a
trike
track
around
the
playground
structure
itself,
and
this
is
just
a
a
smaller
track,
where
kids
on
big
wheels
or
learning
to
ride
their
bikes
can
do
so
closer
to
where
they
can
be
supervised
by
whoever
the
adult
is
at
the
playground
with
them.
U
Pouring
Place
surfacing
it's
just
a
surfacing,
we're
looking
to
add
which
makes
the
playground
itself
more
accessible
to
kids
with
special
needs,
we'll
look
at
making
some
improvements
and
replacing
the
swing
set.
That's
there,
as
well
as
adding
some
benches
some
tables
and
some
shade
for
those
who
will
come
into
the
park
to
enjoy.
U
Over
at
Memorial
Stadium,
some
things
we're
looking
to
do
is
demolish
the
current
concession
stand
in
the
restroom
facility,
we'll
construct
a
new
combined
building
that
will
house
both
the
restroom
and
a
storage
facility
we'll
make
some
overall
improvements
to
the
accessibility
of
the
the
stadium
itself,
make
some
improvements
to
the
lighting
security
lighting
in
the
area
as
well
as
make
some
improvements
to,
and
you
can
see
here.
U
And,
lastly,
the
meat
of
this
project
is
the
track,
the
track
that
is
positioned
in
Memorial
Stadium.
This
will
be
a
six-lane
competition
track,
pretty
much
similar
to
what
you're
used
to
seeing
at
a
middle
school,
high
school
or
college
Stadium,
it's
400
meters.
It
will
have
a
rubber
track
surface
again,
which
is
conducive
for
competition
track
activities.
U
G
U
With
the
length
of
the
field
will
remain,
the
same,
they've
been
questions
about.
How
does
that
impact?
The
current
soccer
team,
that
is
there
soccer
team,
will
continue
to
be
able
to
have
their
soccer
games
at
Memorial
Stadium
with
the
new
Improvement
instead
of
being
made
here,
we'll
replace
the
restrooms,
like
I,
said
earlier,
replace
the
bleachers
on
the
west
side
of
the
stadium.
These
are
the
stands
that
are
currently
there.
The
tall
stands,
metal
stands
where
we
place
those.
U
This
is
where
the
new
restroom
and
storage
facility
will
be
located,
as
well
as
what
we're
calling
the
concrete
Plaza.
This
would
just
be
an
area
where,
if
need
be,
for
larger
events,
where
we
need
more
seating,
we
can
bring
in
some
temporary
bleachers
to
it
to
expand
the
current
seating
area
of
the
of
the
event
space
and
then
we'll
make
some
modifications
to
the
existing
stormwater
pipes
to
accommodate
the
new
trap.
U
That's
going
in
at
this
point,
I
turn
it
over
to
Jay
to
kind
of
provide
some
insight
as
to
what
has
happened,
who
we
consulted
in
next
steps
in
the
project.
Q
Thank
you,
Dee
Jay,
Dundas
capital
projects
director,
so,
as
did
indicated
that
the
the
restroom
and
storage
facility
will
be
replaced
and
moved
to
a
new
location.
These
are
concepts
of
of
current
projects
that
are
typical
bathrooms
that
we're
seeing
constructed
right
now
through
conversations
with
the
consul,
the
architect
and
staff
that
will
end
up.
Maintaining
you'll,
see
some
version
of
one
of
these.
These
restrooms
located
on
this
facility
that'll.
Q
In
this
this
area,
here
as
Dee
had
indicated
just
to
reiterate,
we
are
at
60
design.
We
are
a
point
of
design
where
we
feel
like
we've,
gotten
the
feedback
related
to
the
concepts
that
are
being
proposed
and
that
we
need
to
be
moved
through
to
design
completion
and
bidding
this
project.
There
was
public
engagement
efforts
associated
with
this
reached
out
to
the
neighborhoods
Easton
Valley,
Street,
neighborhoods
and
Oakhurst
neighborhood,
and
then
stakeholder
groups
were
also
user
groups
were
engaged.
Q
We
had
public
announcements
who
kept
up
the
the
project
page
on
the
city's
website,
and
then
there
were
two
separate
events
that
were
that
took
place
in
which
this
the
renderings
and
the
concepts
were
presented.
One
was
at
the
site
and
it
was
in
a
torrential
downpour,
but
for
the
most
part
it
was,
it
was
dry
and
people
got
to
come
out.
We
had
good
attendance
feedback,
we've
had
the
community
members
that
support
the
track.
Concept
have
have
been
participants
in
in
these
meetings.
Q
A
Q
Right
here
is,
is
the
parks,
maintenance
facility,
HUD
Hill,
and
that
site
is
currently
being
considered
for
relocation.
Q
Thanks
the
okay
and
the
construction
award
again
is
the
Tyrell
said
it
was
March
2023.
that
that
is
an
important
day
and
the
ability
for
us
to
continue
the
process.
The
design
process
from
this
60
design
through
completion
and
really
get
down
into
the
details
of
how
this
project
is
designed
and
going
to
be
constructed.
That's
the
phase
we're
in
right
now.
We
really
need
this
time
to
to
be
able
to
meet
this
March
2023
deadline.
The
project
is
a
fairly
lengthy
project.
Q
If
we,
if,
when
we,
when
we
meet
the
March
23
dead
deadline
for
design,
completion
and
construction
award,
we'll
begin
Construction
in
May
of
2023
and
it'll
be
a
year-long
project
to
make
all
of
these
improvements.
L
A
I
Q
Q
Of
the
project
cost
I,
don't
know
that.
A
I
F
A
Out
because
it's
flip-flopped
on
our
our
presentation
here
so
all
right.
That
concludes
the
managers
long,
but
very
thorough
report.
Okay,
we're
to
the
public
hearings
and
the
the
all
the
public
hearings
need
to
be
continued.
So
first
I
need
a
motion
to
continue
public
hearing
item
a
until
September
13th
2022.,
no.
I
A
I
B
I
A
I
A
D
A
Opposed
okay,
all
right
we're
going
to
move
to.
A
V
A
team
tonight
so
Sasha
will
be
on
a
little
bit
later,
but
yeah
sticky,
Reed
I'm,
the
director
of
the
community
and
economic
development
department,
I,
am
joined
by
Sasha
vertinski,
our
affordable
housing
officer,
as
well
as
a
representative
from
Laurel
Street,
residential
Ron
Stewart,
so
you'll
be
hearing
from
the
three
of
us
tonight
and
I
will
Tee
It
Up
with
our
first
set
of
slides
so
really
key
takeaways.
This
is
a
mixed
income
project
that
will
deliver
215
units
with
65
of
those
being
affordable.
V
That
affordability
is
spread
across
one
two
and
three
bedrooms
and
we'll
kind
of
dive
into
that.
A
little
bit
later,
Laurel
Street
is
proposing
the
following
terms
and
financing,
so
the
land
purchase
price
as
the
subsidy
for
the
affordability
for
one
dollar,
that
is,
for
a
30-year
period
of
affordability
and
the
city
will
fund
the
construction
of
a
traffic
signal
at
the
White
Pond
Drive
John
Walker
Avenue
intersection
there
at
Biltmore
Ave,
and
so
we
do
recommend
approval
and
we'll
walk
through
that
proposal
in
more
detail.
Just
a
high
level
background
here.
V
So
the
original
request
for
proposals
was
issued
on
this
property
based
on
the
proposed
development
of
a
mixed
income
and
affordable
Community
to
really
complement
the
Maple
Crest
Apartments
there.
This
proposed
purchase
and
sales
agreement
is
really
our
next
step
in
the
process
with
Laurel
Street
and
then
thereafter
they
will
continue
to
refine
the
project
and
then
pursue
entitlement
so
really
go
through
the
conditional
zoning
process.
V
We
brought
this
forward
to
the
Housing
and
Community
Development
Committee
and
they
voted
3-0
in
favor
of
approval,
and
that
was
on
August
16th,
okay,
so
a
little
site
picture
there.
So
you
can
see
that
the
site
here
is
about
five
acres
pad
ready
sites
that
those
improvements
were
done
in
conjunction
with
the
Maple
Crest
Redevelopment
there
to
really
support
that
connectivity.
V
You'll
see
that
new
roadway
was
not
there
before
is
really
the
Matthews
Ford
dealership
site
so
that
that
building
was
demolished
as
well
as
some
environmental
remediation
done,
and
then
that
roadway
was
constructed
to
connect
Maple
Crest
to
Biltmore
Ave
and
a
little
bit
of
background
here.
So
the
city
acquired
that
property
using
Bond
dollars
in
January
of
2020
the
purchase
price
there
5.3
roughly
a
million
per
acre
for
the
total
site,
demolition
of
the
building,
the
environmental
site
remediation.
V
Those
infrastructure
Investments
was
about
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
bond
funds,
and
so
we
are
looking
at
the
future
investment
of
the
traffic
signal
and
estimating
that
to
be
around
400
000
and
then
really.
We
had
that
last
note
there
to
also
State
the
city's
investment
in
the
affordability
at
the
Maple
Crest
Apartments,
as
well.
So
a
little
bit
of
background
there,
but
now
I
will
turn
it
over
to
Sasha
to
walk
us
through
the
proposal.
E
Thanks
Nikki
good
evening
councilwoman,
so
our
proposal
here
we're
looking
at
approximately
215
units.
20
of
those
units
would
be
affordable
to
those
at
60
of
media
area.
Median
income,
approximately
43
units,
half
of
those
units
would
accept
housing,
Choice
vouchers
and
an
additional
10
of
the
units
would
be
affordable
to
those
at
80
percent.
Very
immediate
income,
which
is
approximately
22
units.
E
Go
up,
but
this
is
kind
of
our
Baseline
here
that
we're
working
on
for
this
agreement
so
for
these
units
there's
a
mix
of
one
two
and
three
bedrooms,
which
is
something
we've
heard
from
the
community
and
the
council
members
in
the
past
that
are
important
so
that
we
can
accommodate
families
in
our
community
for
the
60,
area-made
income
and
Below
units.
We
have
22
one
bedroom
or
Studio
units
and
half
of
those
except
vouchers,
15
two-bedroom
units,
three
bedroom.
Six
excuse
me:
six,
three
bedroom
units
and
half
of
each
of
those
are
accepting
vouchers.
E
D
E
E
So
what
we're
asking
for
tonight
is
approval
of
a
purchase
and
sales
agreement
and
I
know.
We
didn't
talk
about
this,
but
we
get
through
this
they.
If
we
approve
this,
we
draft
the
agreement,
we
have
the
agreement
and
then
they
will
start
their
design
in
Earnest
and
start
their
conditional
zoning
process.
E
E
B
E
24.,
it
takes
two
years
24
months,
yeah,
two
years
of
construction,
Laurel
Street
has
a
30
minority
and
women
business
goal.
Which
is
higher
than
the
city's
standard
goal
and
we're
also
looking
at
about
a
thousand
square
feet
of
commercial
space
which
could
be
for
a
non-profit
or
Community
Development
and
or
maybe
even
a
small
community
grocery
store.
E
So
as
we
always
do,
we
do
policy
analysis
to
see
how
this
complies
with
our
existing
policies.
It's
meeting
our
policy
for
implementing,
affordable
housing
on
city-owned
land,
which
our
policy
says.
20
of
the
units,
should
be
affordable
at
60
Ami
for
20
years,
with
a
strong
preference
for
30
years
and,
as
you
know
that
the
major
consideration
here
is,
you
know
the
land
price
was
somewhat
High.
E
We
bought
this
property
from
duke
and
so
that
that
price
had
to
be
the
market,
the
market
rate
they
couldn't
sell
it
to
us
for
less
than
that,
so
our
cost
per
subsidy
is
approximately
81
500
per
unit.
Some
of
the
infrastructure
and
Investments
we've
made
have
also
benefited
Lee,
Walker,
Heights
or
Maplecrest
Apartments.
A
A
Can
ask
me
questions,
but
thank
you,
yeah
I'd
love
to
ask
you
a
couple
questions.
This
is
an
exciting
project.
Can
you
can
you
tell
us
how
you
know
we
looked
at
the
subsidy
here.
It's
81
538
dollars
per
unit.
That
includes
the
the
units
that
are
eighty
percent
of
Ami
as
well.
Yes,
compare
that
to
what
what
we
would
typically
be
looking
at
this
isn't.
A
This
is
a
land
grant
rather
than
you
know
cash,
but
if,
if
it
were
evaluated
through
the
Housing
Trust
Fund
give
me
a
little
kind
of
apples
to
apples.
Sure.
E
So
projects
vary
all
over.
You
know
there
are
different
projects
with
different
every
Project's
a
little
different.
This
is
not
a
tax
credit
project,
so
it's
not
getting
tax
Equity.
You
know
income
of
cash
or
you
know
cash
infusion
from
tax
credits,
so
that
makes
it
different.
We
are
the
only
provider
of
subsidy
in
this
project
at
this
point,
360
Hilliard,
just
for
comparison,
that
subsidy
was
around
71
72
000
per
unit,
and
so
that
was
around
40.
A
This
one's
for
30
30
years,
but
you
was-
was
360
Hilliard,
a
Tax,
Credit
Finance
project.
E
E
L
A
No
I
mean
I
mean
my
understanding.
Is
it's
more
of
what
we
ask
for.
X
So
my
recollection
so
excuse
me:
first,
must
my
name
is
Ron
Stewart
I'm,
a
senior
vice
president
of
development
for
Lowell
Street,
headquartered
in
Charlotte.
So
thanks
for
having
us,
we're
absolutely
excited
to
be
here.
So
my
recollection
of
the
RFP
that
the
city
issue
was
a
request
for
more
mixed
income
and
Workforce
housing
and
the
purpose
behind
that
was
to
be
a
complimentary
project
to
the
Maple
Crest,
which
was
had
a
deeper
level
of
affordability.
X
So
when
you
look
at
the
income
mix
that
we're
proposing
for
319
Biltmore,
the
affordability
kind
of
picks
up
where
Maple
press
stops
memory
serves
me
correctly,
Maple
Creeks
is
has
an
income
mix
of
30,
60s
and
80s.
We
do
have
60
Ami
units
in
our
income
mix,
so
it
aligns
with
City
policy.
But
then
we
have
a
tranche
at
80
as
well
as
several
years
about
150
or
so
units
that
are
at
market
rate.
X
Well
great:
well
again,
my
name
is
Ron
Stewart
I
am
Senior
vice
president
of
lower
Street
Madame
mayor
Madam,
vice
mayor
members
of
city
council,
Madam
city
manager,
thanks
again
for
having
us
I've
shared
in
the
hcd
meeting
that
you
know,
with
the
support
of
City
staff,
the
most
notable
Nikki
and
Sasha.
We
would
not
be
here
today,
so
I
definitely
want
to.
You
know
give
thanks
to
them
for
kind
of
helping
us
navigate
this
process.
X
Ironically,
I
joined
Lowell
Street
back
in
2019
right
prior
to
this
RFP
coming
out,
and
so
for
me
this
has
been
a
journey
because
I
kind
of
led
the
charge
for
originally
pursuing
the
project,
which
initially
we
did
not
win,
but
nonetheless,
I
think
the
fact
that
we're
here
we're
incredibly
excited
to
be
here
and
to
be
partnering
with
the
city
of
Asheville
on
this
opportunity.
X
So
I
am
going
to
briefly
go
through
our
presentation,
which
you
will
see
that
a
lot
of
it
is
kind
of
repeating
what
Nikki
and
Sasha
shared
but
feel
free
to
stop
me
and
ask
any
questions
so
initially,
I'm
just
going
to
kind
of
give
some
highlights
of
what
we're
currently
seeing
in
the
market.
Briefly
walk
through
our
development
program,
as
well
as
our
unit
and
income
mix,
discuss
our
current
budget
and
the
assumptions
around
that
and
then
talk
through
kind
of
what
our
proposed
timeline
is.
X
So,
as
many
of
you
may
know,
the
the
market
overall
has
been
very
volatile
in
terms
of
construction
costs,
labor
shortages,
as
well
as
the
availability
and
the
pricing
around
materials.
This
is
directly
due
to
a
lot
of
supply
chain
disruptions.
That's
caused
to
the
pandemic.
We
are
still
seeing
some
of
those
challenges
and
we've
been
working
with
our
construction
Partners
how
to
try
to
mitigate
those
so
that
one
we're
getting
materials
at
the
best
best
price
price
possible,
as
well
as
being
able
to
staff
projects
and
execute
on
those
projects
in
a
timely
manner.
X
Another
way
that
we
kind
of
mitigate
some
of
this
construction
volatility
is
once
we're
closer
to
closing,
we'll
actually
start
working
again
with
our
lenders,
as
well
as
our
contractors
to
start
securing
materials
at
least
making
those
purchases.
If
we
know
there's
going
to
be
a
long
lead
time,
the
other
issues
we're
seeing
in
the
market
is
this
honestly,
it's
a
tight
labor
market
not
only
in
the
construction
industry
but
just
throughout
the
economy
and
again
the
way
we're
trying
to
mitigate
that
is
partnering
with
construction
firms
early
in
this
process.
X
So
that
not
only
can
we
plan
appropriate,
but
so
that
they
can
plan
Staffing
levels
to
meet
our
designated
timeline
and
then
finally,
I
would
add
that,
due
to
the
inflation
Destiny
occurring
in
the
market
as
a
byproduct
of
the
pandemic,
the
Federal
Reserves
have
already
raised
rates
multiple
times
thus
far
this
year
and
we
were
anticipating
a
couple:
more
interest
rate
hikes
prior
to
Us,
closing
in
the
fourth
quarter
of
2023,
when
we
financially
underwrite
a
transaction
like
this.
That
is
not
going
to
close
for
you
know
a
year
from
now.
X
X
So
for
our
development
program,
as
Nikki
and
Sasha
alluded
to
as
currently
proposed,
we
are
looking
to
build
a
minimum
of
215
units
that
would
be
a
mix
of
one
twos
and
three
bedrooms.
We've
been
very
focused
on
trying
to
provide
several
three
bedroom
units,
because
what
we've
heard
from
City
staff
is
that
there's
a
strong
desire
to
have
units,
especially
at
that
affordable
levels
for
families.
So
we
heard
that
and
we're
building
it
into
our
design.
X
Additionally,
as
a
part
of
the
overall
project,
because
this
is
a
mixed
income
project,
we
will
have
on-site
leasing,
we
will
have
a
residence
Lounge,
a
fitness
center,
a
business
center
and
then
we're
also
trying
to
build
in
a
lot
of
open,
Green
Space
so
that
the
residents
can
have
some
of
the
sanctuary
to
be.
You
know
on
site,
but
then
also
we're
trying
to
design
this
project
so
that
it
directly
relates
to
Maplecrest.
We've
watched
Maplecrest
kind
of
come
out
of
the
ground.
X
We
have
originally
worked
alongside
Mountain
housing
in
a
regional
pursuit
of
this,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
this
project
does
not
turn
its
back
on
at
Maple.
Press
and
so
that
this
is
a
kind
of
a
cohesive
Community.
Additionally,
we're
also
planning
to
have
approximately
a
thousand
square
foot
commercial
space
with
the
goal
of
recruiting
either
a
local,
non-profit
or
a
local
community
development
entity
to
occupy
that
space
at
below
Market
rental
rates
and
then,
lastly,
we're
building
in
some
level
of
surface
and
structured
parking
that
would
satisfactorily
park
this
project.
X
So
residents
can
have
convenient
parking
so
now
about
our
unit
and
income
mix.
So
again
we
will
have
about
10
percent
of
the
units
that
will
be
income
restricted
to
households,
making
60
percent
of
the
local
American
medium
income.
We
have
been
also
in
discussions
with
the
Asheville
Housing
Authority
about
receiving
housing,
Choice
vouchers
for
another
10
percent
of
the
60
Ami
units,
and
so
we
owe
David
Nash,
actually
a
letter
to
make
that
request
final
and
so
coming
out.
X
Assuming
we
get
approval
this
evening
coming
out
of
this
conversation,
we'll
submit
that
request
to
the
Housing
Authority
so
that
they
can
put
that
into
their
annual
plan
and
then,
thirdly,
we
have
another
Transit
units.
Another
10
percent
that
are
will
be
income
restricted
to
households
at
80
percent
and
then
finally,
the
remaining
150
units
will
be
at
true
market
rate
units,
so
that
makes
up
a
total
of
100
or
215
units.
X
So
for
the
budget
based
on
our
current
assumptions-
and
this
is
also
taking
into
consideration-
continued
escalation
and
pricing
volatility
through
the
end
of
2023.,
we
have
created
the
development
budget
that
totals
just
under
52
million
dollars,
and
so
we
will
finance
this
through
securing
conventional
debt.
X
But
then
Laurel
trade
already
has
existing
relationships
with
Equity
investors
that
are
willing
to
finance
this
project,
both
on
the
limited
partner
side,
as
well
as
with
our
co-,
General
partner
investors
that
52
million
dollar
price
tag
is
breaking
down,
primarily
obviously
of
our
costs
that
directly
to
speak
to
the
construction
and
another
4.8
million.
X
That
involves
this
mostly
design
and
construction
costs
that
we
all
start
that
as
soon
as
we
get
approved
for
this
project
and
then
just
again
to
reiterate,
we
are
proposing
a
30-year
deep
restriction
for
the
affordability
period
and
then
lastly,
I
would
just
kind
of
touch
on
kind
of
what
our
Milestone
schedule
is.
So,
as
previously
shared,
we
did
present
to
the
Housing
and
Community
Development
Committee.
Last
week
we
are
now
coming
before
city
council
seeking
approval.
X
X
X
With
that
approval
in
hand,
we
will
then
complete
the
rest
of
the
design
for
the
project
and
then
by
fourth
quarter
of
2023,
submit
for
and
assume
to
receive
our
building
permit,
which
then
will
allow
us
to
transition
into
closing
on
our
financing
and
then
again
we
will
we
anticipate
that
this
project
will
take
24
months
to
build,
so
we
anticipate
being
able
to
accept
our
first
residence,
late,
2025
and
early
2026..
X
So
with
that,
that
concludes
my
presentation
tonight
and
I
will
make
myself
available
for
any
questions.
Thank.
H
You
Mr
Stewart
I
love
the
project.
I
think
it's
definitely
something
the
community
needs.
However,
I
was
just
wondering
if
I
know
that
a
thousand
square
foot
that
you
have
reserved
for,
like
I,
said
non-profit
or
small
grocery,
whatever
I
was
just
wondering.
If
there's
any
way
they
could
sort
of
dedicate
or
reserve
it
for
some
type
of
grocery
or
food.
You
know
Service
convenient,
affordable,
convenient
store
or
some
type
of
grocery.
H
Specifically
for
that
and
the
reason
I
say
it,
because
you've
got
over
500
units
of
affordable
units
there
and
you're
in
a
food
desert.
No
one
has
I
mean.
If
you
don't
have
a
car,
you
can't
even
get
to
you
know
basic
needs,
so
if
we
could
sort
of
is
there
any
way
that
could
be
incorporated
into
that
that
that
is
space?
It's
dedicated
specifically
for
some
type
of
grocery.
That.
X
Is
possible
yeah
and
we
obviously
we
have
because
we're
still
kind
of
early
in
the
process.
We
have
not
committed
to
any
organization,
so
you
know
once
we
get
into
the
you
know
full
design
of
the
project
simultaneously.
We
would
also
start
reaching
out
working
with
City
staff,
one
to
identify
potential
Community
organizations,
but
then
also
using
our
Network
to
see
if
there's
options
for
some
type
of
retailer
that
can
put
it
I
call
those
type
of
spaces
like
almost
like
a
bodega
where
it's
not
like
a
full-fledged
grocery
store.
X
But
you
know
a
small
like
convenience
store
where
households
can
literally
just
walk
down
the.
O
X
H
X
I
Echo,
some
of
that
I
there
are
so
many
things
to
celebrate
about
this
project.
I
had
hoped
to
have
seen
a
little
more
commercial
space
or
maybe
like
a
child
care
or
something,
but
nonetheless
it's
a
very
exciting
project.
I
do
have
a
question
about
some
numbers
that
I
think
I
missed
in
the
hcd.
Would
you
mind
scrolling
up
a
few
slides
and
let
me
ask
you
something
one
more
well,
and
maybe
the
city's
slide
is
similar,
so
I
just
realized.
I
When
we
look
at
projects-
and
we
say
you
know-
the
affordability
is
80
Ami
and
below
and
half
of
those
will
accept
vouchers.
We
literally
say
half
and
I
realized
and
I'm.
Sorry
I
didn't
notice
this
before,
but
we're
really
half
of
affordable
units
here
would
be
34
units
and
rounding
up
with
22
accepting
vouchers,
not
34
and
I.
Think
it's
just
a
simple
oversight.
It
may
not
even
impact
a
pro
forma,
because
some
of
those
60
and
Below
Ami
categories
naturally
qualify
for
the
voucher
right.
I
X
Work
and
I'll
add
that
right
now,
based
on
based
on
preliminary
discussions
with
the
Housing
Authority,
our
original
discussion
was
around
the
22
units
to
receive
housing,
Choice
vouchers.
So
that
does
have
an
impact
on
the
underwriting
of
the
project.
I
think
based
on
where
we're
at
currently
I
think
we
would
go
back
to
the
Housing
Authority
with
our
official
requests
and
ask
that
all
44
of
the
units
that
we're
showing
in
our
model
receives
housing,
Choice
vouchers.
X
I
H
X
Is
a
possibility,
and
so
one
of
the
delicate
balances
we
were
trying
to
walk
here
is
keeping
the
subsidy
request
to
just
the
land.
So
when
we
start
talking
about
you
know
additional
uses
like
such.
As
you
know,
more
commercial
or
even
like
the
child
care,
we
did
examine
that.
X
X
Honestly,
it's
difficult
to
park
not
only
on
the
surface
level,
because
we
have
to
meet
grades
to
make
a
certain
number
of
parkings
ADA
compliance,
so
you
can
have
over
five
percent
grade
change,
but
then
also
just
again
due
to
the
topography,
we're
going
to
have
to
build
structured
parking-
and
you
know
when
we
look
at
our
structured
parking
deck
on
a
project
like
this
on
average
you're
going
to
spend
probably
about
30
000
per
space.
X
A
You
made
me
think
of
a
question,
and
maybe
this
is
for
staff
tonight
we
are
talking
about
the
sale
of
this
property,
we're
authorizing
sales
property
and
then
once
that's
done,
assuming
that
passes,
you're,
you're
off
and
running
and
you're
going
to
be
doing
a
conditional
zoning
application.
It'll
come
back
to
us,
so
it's
not
you're,
not
setting
in
stone.
A
Just
as
you
mentioned,
you've
got
some
moving
parts.
So
I.
Let
me
ask
staff
this
I
know
we
have
this
RFP
and
it
has
these
parameters.
But
let's
say
they
go
back
to
the
drawing
board
and
they
say
you
know
what,
if
we
use
tax
credit
financing,
if
we
got
a
nine
percent,
for
example,
what
or
the
more
likely
four
percent
which
is
in
which
is
available
to
anyone
without
a
limitation
and
we
added
50
more
units
and
we
added
more
commercial
space,
and
could
they
do
that?
A
Could
it
come
through
the
conditional
zoning
process?
Come
back
to
us
and
say
we
kind
of
changed
it
up
a
little
bit.
We
think
we've
enhanced
some
things,
we've
grown
it
a
little
bit
and
we
figured
out
a
different
funding
mix
and
we
think
this
is
a
better
product.
Do
they
have
the
flexibility
to
be
able
to
do
those
sorts
of
things?
Okay,
you
guys
are
like
totally
looking
at
me
like.
A
We
need
minutes
to
think
about
this
and
you
might
I,
but
I'm
just
wondering,
because
you
know
where
I'm
hearing
you
talk
about
the
cost
of
structured
parking,
I'm
hearing
about
only
1
000
square
feet
of
space.
To
do
anything
other
than
residential
I
have
been
contacted
by
County
Commissioners
asking.
Would
this
be
a
great
location
and
opportunity
to
cite
daycare?
That's
funded
through
the
county
here?
A
X
Asking
so
I
can
speak
from
a
design
in
financing
structure,
how
it
ties
into
City
policy
and
process.
I
may
have
to
defer
to
Nikki
and
Sasha
so
globally.
If
we
pivot
from
this
Workforce
housing
model,
which
is
financed
with
private
Equity,
so
we
have
existing
relationship
with
institutional
investors
that
are
on
the
sideline
right
now,
ready
to
fund
a
project
like
this.
If
we
would
pivot
to
a
tax
credit
deal
and
in
your
scenario,
four
percent
I.
A
B
X
I
would
add
that
in
doing
a
four
percent
tax
credit
transaction,
though
the
the
equity
will
be
drastically
different,
so
it
is
going
to
cause
a
much
greater
financing,
Gap
right
and
so
again
we
were
trying
to
keep
ourselves
aligned
with
what
the
city's
goals
was
was
keeping
that
funding
request
to
a
minimum
to
just
the
land.
X
You
know,
obviously,
it's
possible
it's
possible
because
it's
only
money
right,
but
if
the
city
kind
of
wants
to
kind
of
keep
that
subsidy
to
just
the
land,
I
still
I'm,
confident
that
this
Workforce
housing
approach
is
the
best
approach
for
that.
If
we
did
pivot
to
a
four
percent,
there
would
be
a
need
to
come
back
and
request
additional
subsidy
in
the
form
of
the
land,
use,
tax,
incentive,
Grant
and
or
housing
trust
funds.
A
Well
and
that
and
that
that's
that
was
going
to
be
my
other
question.
The
level
of
subsidy
here
is
already
higher
than
the
the
last
and
only
other
project
we
did
with
using
City
on
land
and
leveraging
it
for
affordable
housing
and-
and
in
that
case
it
was
land,
a
land
incentive,
Grant
and
Housing
Trust
Fund
here
we're
just
only
at
land
and
we're
already
higher
per
unit
than
that
last
project.
Do
you
anticipate
that
you'll
need
to
come
and
ask
for
Housing
Trust,
Fund
or.
D
X
For
a
dollar
this
is
the
ask
and
I
know
when
we
make
reference
to
360
here
we
actually
researched
that
project
as
well,
just
to
look
at
that
as
a
benchmark
and
I
know
that
project
is
up
and
operating
now,
but
I'll
also
add
to
that
that
project
was
really
built.
It's
hard
to
get
Apples
to
Apples
because
of
one
the
city's
land
bases
in
that
project
was
significantly
less
than
what
it
is
here.
X
I
may
be
wrong
about
this,
but
I
was
under
the
impression
that
the
city
kind
of
bought
this
land
originally
and
then
came
back
after
the
fact
and
decided
it
went
affordable
housing
here,
but
I
could
be
wrong
about
that.
But
again,
the
land
base
is
just
significantly
higher,
but
then
also
you
know
earlier
I
made
reference
to.
You
know
what
we're
seeing
in
interest
rates
that
are,
you
know
Rising
every
time
they
rise
even
the
slightest
bit
that
drastically
reduces
our
project's
ability
to
size
debt
when
360
here
was
being
built.
X
This
time
last
year
we
saw
Lumber
go
up
at
least
300
percent
and
that
that
was
just
the
lumber.
Lumber
has
come
back
a
little
bit,
but
it
never
goes
back
to
pre-pandemic
levels,
but
we're
seeing
that
across
all
materials.
And
so
when
you
use
the
360
project
as
a
benchmark,
it's
not
I
would
argue.
It's
not
truly
Apples
to
Apples.
I
Yeah
I
am
hearing,
though,
is
that
this
is
a
minimum.
You
might
come
back
with
230
units
or
something,
but
so
maybe
what
I'm
hearing
is,
if
you
can
add
some
more
units
or
if
you
can
add
some
Child
Care
Centers
I,
wonder
if
maybe
the
county
who
sounds
interested
in
child
care
might
be
interested
in
another
layer
of
Deck,
Parking
Deck.
X
X
Our
original
proposal
back
you
know
two
years
ago
had
a
daycare
center
and
commercial,
but
that
was
such
a
complex
project
not
only
to
design
but
also
to
build
and
to
finance,
and
so
because
the
city
has
actually
had
this
land
for
so
long.
Our
mindset,
and
especially
for
lower
Street,
was,
let's
do
something:
that's
kind
of
middle
to
Fairway.
H
And
and
I
do
appreciate
what
you
said
about.
Basically,
the
finance
would
be
difficult
because
of
a
child
care
and
that's
very
unfortunate
that
a
lot
of
private
investors
actually
shy
away
from
money
projects
that
deal
with
child
care
and
that's
something
that's
desperately
needed,
but
the
financing
structure,
basically
behind
it,
makes
it
very
difficult
for
properties.
X
Too
yeah
and
I've
done
I
mean
I'm
originally
from
Ohio
and
I've
done
those
honestly
I'm
doing
one
in
Doom
right
now,
but
in
the
case
of
the
dorm
project,
it
is
heavily
subsidized
by
the
county,
both
on
upfront
construction
costs,
as
well
as
ongoing
operation
costs
right.
A
A
With
funding
I
mean
you,
you've
got
your
what
your
model,
what
you're
working
with
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
there
was
the
flexibility
in
this
CZ
process
that
you
would
you
know
you
could
consider
that,
and
there
wasn't
some
reason
we
we
wouldn't
be
allowed
to
do
that.
You
know
very
you
know
this
is
just
well
obviously
you're.
Maybe
we
need
to
go
check
out
what's
happening
in
Durham.
G
And
I
have
another
question
just
because
I've
been
asking
folks
that
we
have
a
goal
of
neighborhood,
resiliency
and
I've
been
asking
for
new
development.
What's
the
plan
for
renewable
energy
at
this
location,
whether
it's
options
for
charging
Vehicles
solar
on
top
because
of
the
design
phase,
what
we
hear
a
lot
at
the
end
point
is:
if
we
had
been
asked
earlier
in
the
process,
we
would
have
moved
air
conditioning
units
on
the
top,
for
example,
to
a
different
location
or
opportunities
for
common
utilities.
G
X
A
very
good
question
so
again
you
know
we're
not
that
far
into
design
but
based
on
what
my
expectations
are
today:
I,
don't
anticipate
us
doing
electric
panels,
but
one
of
the
things
that
Laurel
Street
as
a
company
is
doing
throughout
his
portfolio
is
even
on
things
that
are
up
and
operating.
We're
retrofitting
a
lot
of
our
properties
to
have
charging
stations
so
given
where
we're
at
and
that's
going
to
be
a
standard
from
our
organization
going
forward.
So
at
a
minimum.
X
I
am
anticipating
that
we
will
have
an
electric
vehicle
charging
stations
at
the
property.
But
then,
in
addition
to
that,
everything
that
we
do
from
a
Construction
and
design
standpoint
are
usually
in
aligned
with
some
type
of
national
Green
Building
standards,
so
we're
using
not
only
energy
efficient
appliances,
but
we're
also
looking
at
the
materials
Beyond,
just
appliances
that
we're
sourcing
not
only
what
the
materials
are
and
their
longevity
and
life
cycle,
but
where
we're
sourcing
them
from
just
to
try
how
to
bring
down
that
carbon
footprint.
X
But
again
at
a
minimum,
we
will
have
at
least
charging
stations.
C
You
want
to
turn
the
conversation
just
a
little
bit
purpose
build
development.
I
know
you
all
are
Masters
in
creating
cohesiveness
and
a
sense
of
community
with
families
from
different
incomes
being
that
you're
going
to
be
next
to
Maple
Crest.
How
do
you
plan
on
creating
a
sense
of
community
with
that
development,
so.
X
The
first
step
in
that
is
honestly
how
we
design
the
overall
site
plan
when
we've
and
again
we
haven't
gone
deep
into
this
design.
Yet.
But
when
you
looked
at
some
of
our
kind
of
early
on
conceptual
plants
that
our
architect
gave
us,
they
had
a
debt
at
the
western
edge
of
the
property
that
really-
or
that
was
a
surface
parking
lots.
So
you
had
this
kind
of
like
natural,
man-made
barrier,
that
kind
of
was
between
us
and
Maple
Crest.
We
immediately
said
no.
X
We
need
to
have
buildings
that
front
that
that
addresses
it,
but
then
also
one
how
we
lay
out
the
site
plan
so
that
we're
not
creating
those
barriers
between
our
property
and
in
the
Maplecrest
Community,
but
then,
secondly,
we're
going
to
kind
of
Infuse
our
site
with
additional
Green,
Space
and
walking
paths
that
kind
of
tied
those
two
properties
together
and.
X
G
D
C
P
I
don't
have,
but
I
want
to
take
an
opportunity
to
put
some
things
in
context,
something
that's
unwanting
and
a
really
really
big
deal
and,
on
the
other
hand,
not
not
surprising.
So
the
first
thing
I
want
to
point
out
is:
if
we
approve
this
this
evening,
this
is
I
believe
the
very
first
time
in
Asheville
that
the
city
would
have
partnered
with
a
majority.
Black
development
firm
want
to
point
that
out.
The
reason
it's
not
such
a
big
deal
is
Laurel.
Street,
quite
frankly,
is
among
the
most
well
credentialed
firms.
P
We've
ever
partnered
with
Dion
Nelson,
the
presidency
of
undergrad
degree
from
Spelman
MBA
from
Harvard
I
should
be
able
to
stop
right.
There
I'll
go
on
Ron
I,
believe
you
are
a
Clemson
grad
and
your
architecture
work
was
at
the
Ohio
State
Ohio
State.
P
University,
so
I
just
wanted
to
point
that
out.
I
also
want
to
broaden
the
contextual
analysis
to
show
that
we
are
making
great
strides
in
our
racial
Equity
work.
In
particular,
you
recall
in
June
we
passed
what
is
the
most
racially
Equitable
budget
again
in
our
city,
we
followed
up
in
July
and
passed
strategic
partnership
grants
to
help
lessen
the
opportunity
Gap
and,
as
a
result,
what
do
we
say
about?
P
700
children
will
benefit
from
that
and,
as
the
vice
mayor
mentioned,
this
is
a
great
opportunity
and
is
particularly
important
because
of
the
location
given
its
proximity
to
Lee
Walker
Heights,
the
South
Side,
the
Easton
neighborhood
and
the
potential
plans
we
have
for
the
South
slope.
This
is
a
big
deal.
P
I
am
ready
for
a
motion
I
move
to
recommend
that
the
Asheville
city
council
authorized
the
city
manager
to
negotiate
and
enter
into
a
purchase
and
sales
agreement
with
Laurel
Street
residential
for
the
development
of
319
Biltmore
I'll.
Second
Sandra.
A
Okay,
we
have
a
motion
on
a
second:
are
there
any
other
questions?
Otherwise,
we'll
we
have
some
folks
signed
up
for
public
comment
on
this
item.
A
You,
okay
you're
out
of
the
hot
seat.
For
now.
For
now,
unless
Nikki
did
you
have
more
things
you
want
or
you're
taking
down
the
presentation?
Okay,
okay,
but
I've
got
a
few
people.
The
first
person's,
so
I'm
gonna
I've
got
three
people
signed
up
to
speak
unless
you've
got
any
other
signs.
A
When
you
speak,
you
have
three
minutes
to
speak.
Watch
the
lights
on
the
lectern
green
means
go,
but
orange
means
you're
almost
done
red
means
stop.
So
the
first
person
signed
up
to
speak
on
this
item
is
David
Morts.
R
Thank
you
city
council,
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
today
on
this
project,
I'm
here
just
to
Really
voice.
My
support
for
city
councils,
contributing
this
land
for
the
project,
I
think
it's
really
important
that
the
city
support,
affordable
housing,
Workforce,
housing
and
more
housing
in
general,
particularly
in
the
downtown
area.
R
This
project
in
particular,
we
could
be
walkable
to
downtown
and
looks
like
a
good
project
at
this
point
and
I
just
want
to
voice
support
for
the
project
and
for
the
developer.
It
looks
like
the
city
went
through
a
rigorous
process
to
select
the
developer
for
this
and.
R
Think
it's
very
important
that
the
city
actively
support
more
affordable
housing
in
the
downtown
area,
so
I
just
wanted
to
offer
support
for
the
project.
Thank
you.
AA
Hi,
my
name
is
Jonathan
Wayne,
Scott
and
I'm
also
happy
to
see
this
project.
It's
there's
a
lot
of
good
things
to
be
said,
I
think
it's
a
great
use
of
our
city,
dirt
and
I
was
thrilled
to
see
that
there
were
some
folks
from
Clemson.
That's
where
I
grew
up.
You
know,
and
so
welcome
to
Asheville
and
it's
nice
to
see
somebody
coming
to
Asheville
with
the
intention
of
keeping
it
simple.
AA
We
do
this,
and
can
we
do
that
and
I
I
want
to
thank
Miss
Mosley
for
pointing
out
the
the
social
issues
at
hand,
and
it's
it's
a
bit
of
a
shame.
You
know
that
this
is
the
first
time
in
history
that
the
city
of
Asheville
has
partnered
with
a
black
owned
business.
It's
a
shame
that
it's
taken
this
long,
I'm
glad
that
it's
happening.
It's.
AA
Business
too
in
the
construction
industry,
and
just
as
we
heard
Captain
Pigman
earlier
saying
that
she
hopes
that
you
know
young
women
saw
what
she
had
done
as
an
example
of
what
other
women
are
capable
of
doing
and
the
opportunities
that
are
available
to
them.
This
is
also
a
great
opportunity
for
people
to
see
you
know
what's
out
there
and
what
can
be
done
and
I'm
I'm
thrilled
for
it,
and
you
know,
Clemson
is
also
going
through
its
own
reparations
kind
of
process.
It's
a
different.
AA
You
know
we're
dealing
with
the
Plantation
of
John
C
Calhoun
and
issues
like
that
in
Clemson,
but
it
kind
of
comes
full
circle
and
I'm
just
glad
to
see
it
happening,
and
it
looks
great.
A
AB
Appreciate
you
guys
giving
us
the
chance
to
speak
city
council
I,
like
the
previous
fellows,
are
here
to
speak
about
the
support
and
to
talk
about
team
building
with
the
city
and
developers
and
the
housing
in
the
city
of
Asheville.
The
only
way
we
can
address
housing
issues
is
by
bringing
more
Supply
and
more
diverse
Supply
I'm,
a
dual
citizen
of
the
Cherokee
Nation,
as
well
as
the
United
States
and
Equity,
is
a
big
big
deal
for
black
power
and
or
at
Power
and
I.
AB
I
think
I
think
there
are
other
projects
that
have
been
approached
under
this
Council
that
may
not
have
been
received
as
well
and
the
housing
crisis
in
the
sense
of
not
only
the
cost,
but
the
difficulty
with
building
it's
nice
to
make
requests
like
addressing
food
deserts
at
the
same
time,
if
we
don't
build
housing
and
it's
not
affordable,
then
we're
excluding
a
lot
of
opportunity
and
so
I
just
appreciate
that
the
team
building
exercise
that
appears
this
Project's
been
so.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second.
That
concludes
the
folks
signed
up
to
speak
under
this
item.
If
there
aren't
any
other
questions
or
comments,
are
we
ready
to
vote
all
right,
you're?
Looking
at
me,
like
you,.
D
A
E
E
So
just
some
key
takeaways
for
this
project.
Mountain
housing
opportunities
is
requesting
850
000
in
the
housing
and
Housing
Trust
Fund
loan
for
an
affordable
housing
project
at
16
restaurant
court.
It's
a
requested
loan
with
zero
percent
interest
and
deferred
for
a
period
of
40
years,
secured
with
the
deed
of
trust
and
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that.
In
a
minute.
E
E
So
we
still
have
those
funds.
This
previous
funding
approval
would
be
rescinded
as
a
part
of
the
condition
of
closing
on
this
Housing
Trust
Fund
loan.
So
this
is
the
site
here
on.
The
right
is
Tunnel
Road
and
that's
Mountaineer
in
I
just
added
that
label.
So
we
all
know
where
we're
talking
about
and
the
site
is
here
outlined
in
Orange.
E
And
I
won't
repeat
everything
I've
said,
but
again,
50
to
60
units
right
on
Tunnel
right
next
to
Tunnel
Road,
where
there's
great
access
to
Transit
jobs,
grocery
stores
and
other
retail
site
is
approximately
1.31,
Acres
and
it'll
be
a
mix
of
one
and
two
bedroom
units
and
I'll
go
through
the
I.
Have
affordability
mix
chart
so
I
won't
go
through
that
right.
E
This
second
and
again,
20
of
the
units
being
reserved
for
young
adults,
aging
out
of
foster
care,
and
one
thing
I've
learned
through
this
process
is
you
know
the
National
Alliance
to
end
homelessness,
has
done
research
and
between
31
to
46
percent
of
Youth,
exiting
foster
care
experience,
homelessness
by
age
26..
So
those
those
young
adults
are
pretty
vulnerable
when
they're
coming
out
of
that
foster
care
system.
E
So
here
is
the
income
and
bedroom
mix.
10
of
the
units
will
be
or
one
bedrooms
affordable
to
30
Ami,
another
10
percent
or
five
units
are
one
bedroom
units
affordable
to
forty
percent
area.
Median
income,
25
units
or
50
of
the
units
are
affordable
to
those
at
60
percent
area,
median
income
and
Below
one
bedroom
units,
and
then
our
two
bedroom
units,
ten
percent
or
or
five
units
are
affordable
to
those
at
forty
percent
Ami
and
another
20
percent
affordable
at
sixty
percent
for
two
bedroom
units.
E
So
again,
MHO
is
requesting
850
000
to
purchase
the
site.
The
city's
investment
would
be
secured
with
a
deed
of
trust.
Both
parties
have
agreed
on
a
three-year
period
for
construction
to
begin
after
per
purchase,
but
if
they
say
if
they
they're
going
to
apply
for
tax
credits
and
if
those
were
approved
during
that
three-year
period,
you'd
have
the
option
to
extend
that
another
two
years.
E
Did
just
today
changed
part
of
the
resolution
just
so
you
know
that
there
were
some
ideas
around
this
deed
of
trust.
So
part
of
the
idea
here
is
that
if
within
three
years
that
construction
wasn't
started
or
those
the
tax
credits
weren't
approved
that
you
know
if
the
property
was
sold,
the
city
would
get
paid
back,
it's
eight
hundred
fifty
thousand
dollars
and
then
MHO
would
get
refunded
any.
E
E
A
Is
a
standard
practice?
Is
the
anticipated
request
of
661
000?
What
is
that
aligned
with
a
four
percent
or
a
nine
percent,
or
it's
not
a
tax
credit
financing
or
it's
not
designated.
E
E
Yes,
so
just
going
with
our
Housing
Trust
Fund
policy-
and
you
know
analysis,
it's
a
this
project
is
in
a
great
location.
Land
acquisition
is
an
eligible
expense
for
our
policy
and
then
I
just
I
jumped
ahead
of
myself
here
with
the
per
subsidy
unit
with
seventeen
thousand
dollars,
and
you
know
this
given
where
we're
at
in
costs.
You
know
we
believe
this
is
a
reasonable
request
on
the
per
per
unit
subsidy,
especially
given
the
advantageous
location
and
the
affordability
mix.
E
So
yes,
so
this
slide
is
not
as
poison.
You
know,
we've
been
talking
about
payback.
This
is
a
repayable
loan.
It
is
deferred
there.
Is
this
one
requirement
of
securing
other
commitments
they're
not
able
to
do
that
at
this
point,
we're
really
at
the
very
beginning
of
this
project,
they're
trying
to
get
funds
to
secure
the
land,
so
we're
taking
a
little
bit
of
a
risk,
but
we
also
feel
like
we
have
that
secure
the
deed
of
trust
and
Payback.
H
H
You
get
leaned
into
that,
okay,
so
say,
for
instance,
we
do,
you
know,
provide
the
funds
to
buy
the
land
and
then
all
of
a
sudden,
Mountain
housing
decide
not
to
do
the
project
but
decide
to
sell
it
to
someone
else
now.
Even
if
do
we
have
rights
to
that
prior
to
them
actually
selling
it
to
anyone
or
are
they
able
to
assign
it
to
anyone
without
our
input?
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that,
basically,
if
they
sit
on
the
land,
we
would
have
a.
F
So
councilman
kilburg
thank
you
for
bringing
that
up
and
actually
I
think
it's
important
at
this
point
to
notice
what
Sasha
mentioned
just
a
few
minutes
ago
that
we
did
make
some
last
minute
changes
to
the
resolution,
and
perhaps
this
might
be
a
good
time
to
put
that
up
for
the
public
to
be
able
to
see-
and
this
is
is
specifically
located
in
the
fifth
paragraph
on
the
resolution.
F
F
Some
Protections
in
place
in
this,
as
well
as
any
other
similar
transaction.
We
have
both
deed
restrictions
that
we
file
on
the
property
to
ensure
that
it
cannot
be
used
for
anything
other
than
affordable
housing,
which
does
a
great
deal
to
prevent
any
kind
of
sale.
But
we
also
would
have
in
place
our
deed
of
trust,
as
the
mayor
mentioned,
which
would
protect
our
subsidy
interest
in
all
of
this.
F
But
what
we've
added,
in
addition
to
this
is
some
language
that
you
see
here
in
this
particular
paragraph,
which
states
that,
if
even
if
there
was
no
construction
within
the
first
three
year
period,
MHO
according
to
the
agreement
would
have
to
sell
the
property.
The
city
would
recoup
not
only
the
original
investment
which
is
being
asked
for
here,
but
any
appreciation
of
the
property
minus.
Only
some
due
diligence
costs
up
to
a.
F
I
E
Yeah
Jeffrey
Jeffrey
will
probably
be
better
at
it,
but
we've
both.
My
understanding
is
that
when
you
have
a
tax
credit
project,
you're
trying
to
have
the
highest
value
project,
you
can
to
get
the
most
Equity
from
those
tax
credits
possible,
so
I
believe
and
I
have
not.
You
know
that
you
know
our
land
use
incentive,
Grant,
would
kind
of
because
you're
refunding
taxes
and
have
this
other
cash
flow.
That
could
hurt
your
what
we
call
the
basis
for
your
tax
credits,
so
you
wouldn't
get
as
much
money.
E
A
It
your
does.
Anyone
else
have
a
question
for
Sasha:
okay,
I
I,
just
while
you
guys
are
shifting
roles,
I
I
just
want
to
note
it's
sort
of
interesting
to
me.
I
know
we're
talking
about
it.
Hdd
you
all
been
talking
about
going
to
a
process
where
we
do
and
like
bring
all
the
applications
in
at
one
time
for
all
the
projects,
so
you
can
kind
of
which
is
what
the
County's
doing
now
and
apparently
dogwood's
doing
now.
So
you
can
do
this
sort
of
side
by
side.
Comparison
and
I
would
note.
O
A
Sole
subsidizer
right
and
in
this
project
right
but
I,
mean
they're
already
out
of
90
or
80.
However,
many
thousand
dollar
per
unit
subsidy
with
our
subsidy
and
in
this
one
it's
projected
to
be
around
a
90
000
per
unit
subsidy
with
tax
credit
financing,
but
from
many
sources,
not
just
us.
So
it
just
makes
me
I
just
want
to
remember
this
moment,
because
intuitively
I
feel
like
leveraging
City
on
land
into
affordable.
A
D
A
D
L
Private
sector
is
just
not
delivering
enough,
and
so
that
means
that
if
the
public
sector
feels
that
this
is
truly
a
need
for
our
community,
unfortunately,
we
all
have
to
do
more,
but
mayor
I,
totally
get
in
terms
of
you
know
our
fiduciary
responsibility
of
managing
our
resources,
whether
they're
Bond
money
or
whatever,
source
of
funding
that
we
use
those
wisely
and
strategically
and
I
really
do
believe
that
that's
what
we
are
trying
to
do-
and
we
are
not
only
looking
at
this
from
the
lens
of
of
you-
know
the
the
developer
side,
but
we
are
actually
enhancing
our
technical
expertise.
L
I
think
Nikki,
just
hired
someone
who
we
think
has
truly
the
background
that
will
be
needed
to
review
and
assess
these
kinds
of
deals.
So
we
are
we're
sharpening
our
ability
to
truly
get
a
lot
more
efficient
and
hopefully
be
more
impactful
and
deliver
more
units.
That
is
much
needed.
Well,.
A
I
mean
I,
I
will
say
you
know
and
I
think
that's
really
good,
that
we're
gonna
get
that
level
of
detail,
because
this
is
very
difficult.
I
mean
we're
basically
being
asked
to
evaluate
the
private
development
market
and
make
decisions
about
it
when
you
know
that
that's
not
necessarily
any
one
person's
area
of
expertise
but
I
I
am
noticing,
though,
that
if
we
have
to
buy
the
land,
if
we
have
to
pay
5.3
million
dollars,
that
is
a
different
cost
to
folks
than
if
we
have
a
piece
of
land.
T
A
And
you
know,
obviously,
land
in
our
city
is
now
cautious.
Anyway,
that's
a
very
expensive
way
to
get
to
that
end
if
we're
purchasing
the
land.
So
I
just
note
that
we
have
some
some
projects
in
our
pipeline
that
involve
land.
That's
been
on
the
city's
books
for
a
really
long
time.
I,
don't
know
how
we
calculate
that
subsidy
in
those
situations,
but.
A
I
Want
to
Echo
your
point,
though,
about
kind
of
streamlining
the
process,
because
I
think
what
we're
seeing
is
that
to
achieve
the
greater
affordability
that
we
so
desperately
need
and
the
amount
of
it
we're
going
to
need
Partnerships.
So
the
more
that
we
can
tie
into
the
timelines
and
align
with
the
Community
Partners
that
are
also
doing
this
work
like
dogwood,
Health,
Trust
or
Buncombe
County.
I
If
we
can
get
in
the
same
cycle,
then
we're
not
going
to
be
in
situations
like
this,
where
there's
additional
risk,
because
this
project
needs
3.1
million
dollars
from
other
funders
who
haven't
even
been
approached
yet.
But
if
we
were
all
on
the
same
timeline,
those
more
of
those
things
would
be
known.
We
could
be
more
effective,
perhaps.
A
I
That
is
worth
mentioning
because
hcd
just
met
last
week,
y'all
and
those
of
you
that
aren't
on
hcd
may
not
have
gotten
this
update
yet.
But
we
did
we're
going
to
do
this
little
pilot
of
a
work
plan,
and
so
we
put
out
that
by
the
end
of
the
year
we
want
to
come
back
to
you
with
potential
revisions
to
the
HTF
Luigi
other
policies
by
the
end
of
this
calendar
year.
So
the
Earth
has
some
things
coming
and
we're
digressing,
but
yeah.
E
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
this
was
our
staff.
Recommendation
is
based
on
several
points
and
I.
Think
the
next
slide's
key
takeaways,
but
Jeffrey,
Barton
and
Cindy
weeks
is,
are
both
here
from
Mountain
housing
so
also.
G
A
Y
Thank
you
mayor
vice
mayor
and
council
members
for
having
us
here
today
to
entertain
this
request.
My
name
is
Jeffrey
Barton
I'm
with
mountain
housing
opportunities
and
I'm.
The
director
of
real
estate
development.
There
I
am
also
joined
today
by
Cindy
viznich
weeks,
our
director
of
community
Investments,
and
we're
just
thrilled
to
be
able
to
present
this
opportunity
for
your
consideration.
I'll.
A
Y
A
couple
of
your
questions
and
deliberation
on
the
front
end
before
launching
into
my
remarks
on
the
question
of
Luigi
and
property
tax
in
the
state
of
North
Carolina,
non-profit
developers,
who
are
the
managing
member
of
the
tax
credit
LLC,
are
eligible
to
seek
property
tax
relief.
However,
that
doesn't
always
happen.
It's
not
an
automatic.
It
has
to
be
requested
in
the
case
of
mountain
housing
opportunities,
we
do
pay
property
taxes
on
some
of
our
developments
and
we
have
sought
property
tax
relief
on
some
of
our
developments.
Y
I'd
specifically
like
to
thank
Sasha
for
all
of
her
work
and
diligence
and
evaluating
our
Housing
Trust
Fund
requests.
It's
admittedly,
a
non-traditional
request
and
we
really
appreciate
City
staff's
work
with
us
to
to
kind
of
hone
in
on
how
to
support,
affordable
housing,
while
also
protecting
the
city's
interests
So
today
we're
seeking
an
early
partnership
with
the
city
in
order
to
acquire
a
site,
that's
in
a
perfect
location
for
affordable
housing.
Y
Our
vision
for
50
to
60
units
of
affordable
housing
on
this
property
includes
that
set
aside
of
20
percent
of
the
units
for
young
adults,
aging
out
of
foster
care,
as
Sasha
outlined
in
her
presentation.
This
is
a
population
that's
particularly
vulnerable
to
becoming
homeless.
Additionally,
as
is
true
of
all
MHO
properties,
we
will
accept
housing,
Choice
vouchers
at
a
hundred
percent
of
our
units,
so
to
support
this
Vision,
we'll
work
with
the
housing
authority
to
bring
this
new
resource
of
federal
housing
vouchers
to
our
community.
Y
It's
called
The
Foster,
youth
to
Independence,
voucher
program
or
FYI
vouchers.
We
have
letters
of
support
from
both
the
housing
authority
and
Buncombe
County,
the
DHHS
for
this
initiative
and
as
our
full
development
plans
come
together,
we
will
be
identifying
other
Community
Partners
who
can
come
in
and
provide
the
support
services.
It's
actually
a
requirement
of
the
FYI
Voucher
Program.
Y
Y
These
are
currently
commuters
working
low-wage
jobs,
many
of
whom
would
qualify
for
our
Apartments
if
we're
able
to
build
them
here.
So
in
many
respects,
this
site
feels
similar
to
the
site
where
MHO
built
60
units
at
Larchmont,
Apartments
off
of
Merriman
Avenue,
just
off
of
a
commercial
Corridor
on
a
bus
line
in
nearby
many
service
industry
jobs,
site
acquisition
is
the
first
and
the
very
most
important
step
in
procuring
affordable
housing
in
our
community
as
land
costs
and
interest
rates
continue
to
rise.
Y
Mho
always
intends
on
maintaining
affordability
for
the
useful
life
of
the
properties
that
we
develop
in
recognition
of
the
strong
early
funding
commitment
from
the
city.
If
we
secure
one
tonight,
we've
offered
the
extended
40-year
affordability
period
for
the
proposed
development
and
as
an
affordable
housing,
non-profit
we're
not
in
the
speculative
land
business.
T
Y
So,
in
summary,
we
have
a
unique
opportunity
to
build,
affordable
housing
at
an
optimal
location,
we're
committed
to
serving
a
vulnerable
population
with
20
percent
of
the
units
year
marked
for
young
adults,
aging
out
of
foster
care,
and
we
will
commit
to
Extended
40-year
affordability
period
and
we
also
are
willing
to
commit
to
the
shared
appreciation
clause
in
the
deed
of
trust,
to
protect
the
city's
interests.
So
thank
you
for
your
consideration
of
this
request
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have.
H
I
I,
like
the
project
I'm
familiar
with
a
lot
of
mountain
housing
opportunities
projects,
and
the
one
thing
I
can
say
is
that
they're
designed
for
the
long
term
and
I
and
basically
and
the
design
setup,
actually
a
lot
of
the
units
that
you
do
have
they're
maintained
in
such
a
way
that
you
really
don't
have
a
lot
of
the
issues
that
we
have
in
some
of
our
more
low-income
communities.
So
I
definitely
like
to
applaud
you
on
that
particular
model
and
I'm.
H
Looking
forward
to
this
particular
project,
going
up
because
of
the
location
like
you
said,
you've
been
you've
been
as
far
as
your
your
land
acquisition.
As
far
as
projects
I
can't
say
how
well
that
you've
done
the
research
and
put
them
in
places
that
actually
can
benefit
and,
like
I,
said
in
the
long
run
and
I'm
not
you
know
future
developments.
Thank
you.
Y
Yeah,
as
is
the
case
of
most
of
our
developments,
it
takes
multiple
times
and
multiple
applications
to
secure
all
the
funding
needed.
We
propose
this
in
the
Housing
Trust
Fund
application
as
a
four
percent,
or
a
nine
percent
purely
for
the
uncertainty
of
the
current
funding
guidelines
that
are
reassessed
annually
by
nchfa,
and
so
we
feel
confident
that
this
site
ticks
all
the
boxes
under
the
current
guidelines
and
meets
all
the
requirements
of
the
other
local
funding
Partners.
We
obviously
aren't
coming
with
those
commitments
in
hand
because
we're
asking
for
site
acquisition
funds,
but
yeah.
Y
I
Y
We've
committed-
and
you
know
it
kind
of
depends
on
the
revisions
to
the
Housing
Trust
Fund
policy,
but
we've
committed
to
going
and
seeking
those
other
local
funding
Partners
first
and
we'll
keep
the
city
apprised
of
our
progress
if
there,
if
it
becomes
kind
of
a
limited
window
and
the
deadlines
don't
align,
I
can't
promise
that
we
wouldn't
come
to
the
city
before
we
have
every
other
piece
of
the
funding
picture
lined
up,
but
but
it's
our
it's
our
strong
intention
to
go,
seek
other
funding
before
we
come
back
for
that
final
Gap
piece.
Y
I
You
I
think
some
of
what
you've
been
highlighting
tonight,
too,
is
speaking
to
a
policy
we
don't
yet
have
like.
When
319
Biltmore
came
to
us,
we
had
to
develop
a
land
disposition
policy,
but
we
don't
have
a
land
acquisition
policy
which
may
be
to
your
point.
Some
of
these
Gap
financing
and
the
rolling
annual
application
is
appropriate,
but
maybe
we
need
a
different
policy
for
this
kind
of
situation.
I
G
Y
You
for
your
question:
renewable
energy
is
a
really
strong
and
deep
commitment
of
mountain
housing
opportunities.
I
actually
asked
Sasha
to
flip
back
to
the
slides.
Just
so
you
could
see
how
sunny
the
site
is.
It's
MHO
in
partnership
with
the
Housing
Authority
developed,
rooftop
solar
on
Maple,
Crest,
174
kilowatt
installations,
really
significant
solar
installation
in
downtown
MHO
on
its
own
is
also
installed.
Rooftop
solar
at
Eagle
Marketplace,
which
you
can
see
from
the
top
floor
of
this
building
and
at
our
project
in
Swannanoa
East,
Haven
Apartments.
Y
So
we
would
certainly
explore
solar
at
this
site.
Given
the
optimal
solar
exposure.
The
site
already
has-
and
we
have
you
know,
we're
pretty
Savvy
at
finding
funding.
It
always
takes
a
little
extra
funding
to
do
renewable
energy,
but
it's
an
investment
in
the
long
term,
and
so
it's
something
we
can't
you
know
commit
to
at
the
site
acquisition
stage.
But
it's
it's
in
our
DNA
to
explore
renewable
energy.
G
I
also
know
that
the
community
space
is
well
used
at
Maple,
Crest
I,
wasn't
sure
if
there
are
plans
for
a
community
space
at
this
location
and
also
what
does
it
look
like,
as
we
get
closer
to
other
details
of
this
project
for
a
management
contract
to
ensure
quality
of
life
and
site
maintenance.
Y
Yeah
good
questions,
site
amenities
are
something
that
we
work
deeply
with
our
current
residents
and
our
prospective
populations
will
be
serving
to
make
sure
they're
appropriate
in
the
case
of
this
development,
since
we're
proposing
that
set
aside
of
20
of
the
units
for
youth
aging
out
of
foster
care,
part
of
our
exploration
process
in
the
design
phase
is
going
to
be
identifying
the
Community
Partners
that
we
could
bring
in
to
provide
those
support,
services
and
finding
what
kinds
of
space
needs
they
have.
Y
So
we
can
build
it
into
the
design
of
the
facility
and
in
terms
of
Maintenance
of
the
grounds
you
know,
we
do
have
a
strong
track
record
in
history
of
maintaining
properties.
Well,
and
it's
something
that
we
we
strive
to.
Do
we
always
tell
people
they
can
go
to
any
MHO
property,
unannounced,
and
you
know,
take
a
look
for
themselves.
So
we
do
have
maintenance
agreements
with
our
property
management
company,
and
you
know
frankly
right
now,
as
is
the
case
everywhere.
Y
I
I
Y
P
I
move
to
recommend
that
the
Asheville
city
council
approved
Mountain
housing
opportunities,
request
for
800
850
000
dollars
in
Housing
Trust
Fund
loan
to
construct
50
to
60
multi-family
apartments
for
households
at
or
below.
Sixty
percent
Ami
at
16
restaurant
Court,
including
10
to
12
units
for
young
adults,
aging
out
of
foster
care.
A
J
This
is
a
leveraging
of
land
purchase
for
the
creation
of
what
can
really
be
described
as
quite
deeply
affordable,
housing
and
for
a
particularly
vulnerable
group
to
benefit
from
this
seems
like
a
win
all
the
way
around.
If,
for
any
reason,
it
doesn't
make
it
through
the
funding
process,
the
city
has
an
opportunity
to
recoup
its
funds
in
a
timely
manner,
I'm
totally
gung-ho
for
this,
so
I
hope
you
will
pass
it.
J
A
Okay,
that's
okay,
we'll
reached
the
end
of
this
all
right.
Are
we
ready
to
vote
ready?
Okay,
all
those
in
favor,
please
say:
aye.
D
A
A
C
The
boards
and
commissions
committee
met
this
morning
and
reviewed
19
possible
appointments
and
I
would
like
to
say
11
of
which
were
resignations,
starting
with
affordable
housing
advisory
committee.
The
board
of
commissions
committee
recommends
the
appointment
of
Tara
Irby
for
the
Housing
Authority
seat,
along
with
the
reappointments
of
Andy
Barrett
Marge
Bukowski
Paul
Heathman,
Barbara,
Ann,
Phillip,
David
Bartholomew,
and
the
appointment
of
minwa
Smith.
D
C
D
C
B
C
B
Know
we
we
try
to
have
people
only
participate
on
one
board
at
a
time
and
I'm
I'm
unclear
what
is
particular
unique
skill
set
is
relative
to
Hayek.
B
Served
on
two
for
me,
but
we
were
trying
to
phase
out
of
that
in.
P
G
We'll
point
out
that
the
nominating
committee
from
Hayak
is
the
one
who
recommended
the
appointment
based
on
neighborhood
Outreach
and
connectivity.
A
C
I
mean
we
have
11
resignations
and
then
a
couple
committees.
We
struggled
to
appoint
a
person
in
the
past,
so
today
we
had
to
appoint
Someone
who
lived
in
the
county
after
a
lot
of
iterations
of
bad
applications
or
applications
that
weren't
valid
because
they
were
out
of
the
city
limits.
So
the
pool
is
getting
very
thin.
I
B
B
C
All
right,
we'll
move
on
to
human
relations,
Commission
of
Asheville.
The
committee
is
going
to
re-advertise
for
that
seat,
they're,
requesting
that
they
receive
more
applications
from
City
residents
for
the
noise
Advisory
Board.
The
committee
recommends
the
appointment
of
Liliana
Woody
at
the
restaurant
Industries
interest
industry
seat
in
the
appointment
of
Reb
haslip
for
The
Residency
can
I
get
a
second.
Second,
all
right.
I
AC
C
We're
going
to
do
the
vote
and
Gwen
brought
to
my
attention
that
I
skip
Board
of
adjustments.
That
I
have
to
call
the
vote
on
the
last
one,
so
all
in
favor,
say:
hi
hi,
okay,
going
to
board
of
adjustment.
The
committee
recommends
the
appointment
of
Elliot.
Smith
can
I
get
a
second
second
century?
Okay,
all
in
favor,
say
aye.
D
A
A
A
L
L
We
delayed
the
governance
committee
meeting
or
in
which
this
agenda
item
was
going
to
be
on
that
Council
committee
agenda.
The
next
meeting
will
be
September,
the
13th
I
believe
of
governance
committee,
and
at
that
time
this
will
be
on
that
particular
agenda.
A
V
A
Just
just
so
everybody
knows
where
that's
at
in
the
city's
process.
The
other.
The
other
item
was
the
Biltmore
Avenue
bike.
Lane
proposal
it
seems,
like
there's,
been
a
little
bit
of
confusion
around
that.
If
you
could,
we
did
do
a
press
release
to
try
to
clarify
the
status
of
that
project,
but
I
asked
the
city
manager
to
just
add
a
few
words
to
that.
Since
there
it
seems
to
be
a
little.
L
L
L
One
is
to
address
some
of
the
loading
issues
that
are
unbuiltmore,
but
the
city
will
come
back
and
make
this
project
a
part
of
their
Capital
Improvement
program
and
will
reserve
the
funding
in
order
to
add
bike
Lanes
not
only
to
this
street
and
downtown,
but
a
number
of
other
streets,
and
hopefully
we'll
create
the
love
of
connectivity.
That's
needed
for
a
number
of
our
bike.
Lanes.
D
A
R
A
Captured
on
air,
we
are
live
here.
We
are
back
at
City
Hall.
We
are
resuming
our
city
council
meeting
and
we're
to
the
portion
of
our
agenda
where
we
are
taking
public
comment
and
informal
discussion.
That's
what
we
call
it
and
again
speakers.
You
will
have
three
minutes
to
speak
watch
the
light
on
your
lecterns
and
I
am
going
to
try
to
let
you
know
who
is
speaking
and
who
is
on
Deck,
so
you
can
prepare.
A
AE
Good
evening
mayor
and
vice
mayor
and
Council
I
appreciate
your
attention
for
a
couple
minutes
also
I
want
to
say:
I
am
sorry
about
all
the
turnover
I
work
with
governments
all
over
the
U.S
and
I
keep
hearing
the
same
thing
from
everyone.
That
turnover
is
big
pain,
so
apologize
that
you
have
to
go
through
it
surprisingly,
I'm,
actually
not
here
to
talk
about
Plastics
I
just
wanted
to
talk
briefly
about
some
of
the
development
that's
going
on
around
the
city.
AE
It
was
obviously
a
big
topic
of
the
night
and
in
rad,
specifically
I
know
that
area
is
going
to
be
undergoing
some
heavy
development.
There's
almost
500
new
units
going
up
in
a
couple
of
apartment
buildings
there,
and
so
what
I
wanted
to
raise
concerns
about
is
something
that
was
brought
up
earlier
by
councilman,
Kilgore
and
umroni,
which
was
around
like.
AE
And
access
to
some
of
the
basic
amenities
around
there,
we
don't
have
a
single
grocery
store
in
the
rad.
The
closest
thing
is
going
to
the
Ingles
in
West
Asheville,
which
is
kind
of
a
hike,
or
you
know
going
up
on
Merriman,
which
is
not
really
tenable
for
anyone
who
does
not
have
a
car
and,
as
was
brought
up
earlier,
a
lot
of
folks
who
are
going
to
be
in
affordable
housing
units.
AE
Don't
have
the
luxury
of
paying
for
a
car,
especially
nowadays
considering
how
crazy
expensive
they
are
and
how
expensive
gas
is
and
I'm
worried
about
some
of
the
development
that's
happening
like
the
52
million
dollar
project.
We
were
just
talking
about
that,
we're
saying:
hey:
might
we
have
a
thousand
square
feet
for
grocery
store
for
a
bodega
and
I?
AE
Think
bodegas
are
great
and
they
have
an
important
place,
but
I
worry
that
some
of
this
development
feels
a
little
like
a
piecemeal
as
it's
going
and
I'm
wondering
if
there
was
a
broader
plan
for
making
sure
that,
as
these
developments
happen,
especially
over
a
bigger
area,
that's
going
to
happen
in
a
holistic
manner
where
these
amenities
will
be
accessible
for
everyone,
and
not
just
you
know.
Hopefully,
they'll
have
something
in
the
small
retail
area.
A
A
Sorry,
we're
not
we're.
Okay,
we'll
just
keep
Nina
tovas
your
next
and
Carl
Silsby.
You
are
on
Deck.
J
Our
working
group
has
made
progress.
It's
been
challenging
and
contentious
in
some
cases,
it's
a
large
group
and
not
terribly
structured
group,
but
we
are
having
a
meeting
again
this
coming
Thursday
and
I'm
quite
optimistic.
The
first
thing
that
the
group
has
done
quite
successfully
is
identify
historically
back
a
few
years,
members
of
boards
and
commissions
with
contact
information
for
them.
J
So
we
will
be
able
to
get
a
survey
out
to
those
folks,
and
our
formulation
of
the
survey
is
coming
along
quite
nicely,
we'll
be
discussing
that
on
Thursday
night,
it's
in
process
and
I
think
it
will
be
useful
in
helping
Council
understand
the
recruitment
process.
What
brings
people
to
apply
for
a
position,
what
discourages
them
in
their
service
or
encourages
them
and
why
they
choose
to
resign
or
not.
These
are
questions
that
we
will
be
asking
folks
among
many
many
others.
J
My
guess
is,
it
will
be
at
least
another
couple
of
weeks,
at
least
maybe
a
month
once
that
goes
out.
We
hope
that
you
will
ensure
that
this
working
group
has
the
opportunity
to
see,
compile
and
analyze
the
data
that
comes
back
from
that
survey,
so
that
we
can
base
recommendations
upon
that
information
that
has
not
systematically
been
gathered
or
analyzed
in
a
constructive
way.
To
date.
A
AF
AF
AF
AF
AF
AF
Then
I
may
shave
them,
but
you
can't
do
the
definition
of
doing
the
same
thing
and
expecting
different
resources.
What
and
that's
how
I
wrote
my
letter
put
question
box
on
there.
I
didn't
want
anybody
to
say:
I
was
being
inflammatory
toward
them.
I
divide
the
terminology,
so
we'll
go
forward
and
as
I
say
it
again,
your
own
actions
and
inactions.
F
A
H
H
If
it's
possible,
could
you
stick
around
after
Council
I'd
like
to
speak
with
you.
AF
B
AA
AA
Wainscott
and
I
want
to
thank
you
for
punting
the
South
slope,
Vision
thingamajig
down
the
road
a
little
bit
because
it
kind
of
came
pulled
up
from
the
past.
It
seems
it
was
put
together
several
years
ago,
and
then
it
was
kind
of
forgotten
about
and
I
was
looking
through
it
just
doing
kind
of
cursory
look
at
it.
It
seemed
like
it
was
odd
to
me.
You
know
what
we
understand
to
be.
AA
AA
And
those
two
lobes
are
Aston
Park,
which
is
at
the
top
of
the
South
French
Broad
neighborhood
and
then
Memorial
Stadium
in
Mccormick.
O
AA
Is
is
considered
that
now
and
it
just
kind
of
has
this
air
of
you
know
the
South
slope
being
kind
of
like
we
kind
of
like
that
and
we're
going
to
take
it
from
this
other
neighborhood.
You
know
the
South
French
Broad
neighborhood
with
Aston
Park,
and
then
you
know
Memorial
Stadium
and
McCormick
field,
which
has
always
been
part
of
the
East
End
Neighborhood
is
now
kind
of
this.
The
new
South
slope,
which
is
only
10
years
old
and.
AA
Bunch
of
other
things
in
there
that
I'll
be
more
than
happy
to
debunk
in
a
couple
months.
You
know
it
said
that
43
of
the
respondents
to
this
survey
lived
in
or
near
the
area,
which
means
57
of
the
respondents,
don't
live
in
or
near
the
area.
It's
a
pretty
big
difference
between
57
and
43.
AB
AA
Sure
that
Esther
would
love
to
you
know
defeat
Kim
Roney
by
57
43.
O
AA
Things
you
know
like
there's
a
lot
of
things
to
parse
out
in
this
whole
situation,
I'm
looking
forward
to
doing
that
and
I'll
have
more
time
to
put
together
a
fantastic
PowerPoint
presentation
for
you
and
maybe
brush
up
on
my
Photoshop
skills
and
I
look
forward
to
entertaining
Gwen
on
her
way
out.
Don't
worry,
Gwen
I've
got
something
really
special
for
him.
AA
T
AA
AA
D
A
There
upgrade,
hopefully
it's
a
Model
T
and
not
the
pinto,
it's
David
Kelly
and
then
next
up
is
Henry.
Gargan.
AG
AG
Thank
you
very
much.
The
the
I
was
talking
with
the
owner
of
rabbit
rabbit
earlier,
and
he
was
ecstatic
about
about
the
turnout.
He
thought
it
was
and
he
wants
to
incorporate
this
into
his
regular
offerings
at
rabbit.
Rabbit
he's
going
to
be,
you
know,
improving
it
a
little
bit,
but
you
know
he
thinks
that
it.
It's
just
adds
to
what
he
puts
on.
AG
You
know
that
the
ages
of
the
participants
there
they
went
from
6
to
90.
and
actually
planned.
AG
AG
AG
That
brings
the
youth
into
this
as
a
as
a
you
know,
vital
component,
the
age
of
pickleballs
dropping
dramatically,
but
I
think
there's
still
plenty
plenty
of
opportunity
there.
So
that's
more
my
that's
my
one
kind
of
solid
thought
that
I
want
you
to
go
away
with
and
we
we
will
supply
the
we'll
Supply
the
bodies.
We
just
need
a
little
bit
of
organization.
AG
I,
don't
have
much
else
to
say:
I
I
will
just
kind
of
end
on
a
bit
of
a
sober
note.
Your.
AG
A
Z
Good
evening
y'all,
my
name
is
Henry
gargan
I'm,
an
attorney
with
the
southern
environmental
law,
Center
and
I'm
I.
Think
the
first
of
many
people
here
tonight
to
speak
on
the
plastic
pollution
reduction
ordinance.
That's
come
out
of
CC
and
it'll,
be
before
y'all
shortly
or
at
least
before
the
governance
committee.
Z
As
you
all
may
know,
the
ordinance
that
came
out
of
CC
proposes
a
ban
on
plastic
bags,
a
ban
on
polystyrene
otherwise
known
to
styrofoam
and
the
option
for
businesses
to
adopt
a
10
cent
fee
on
paper
bags.
Although
we
may
still
push
for
that
to
be
a
mandatory
portion
of
the
ordinance
I
want
to
make
just
two
broad
points
today,
because
I
know
my
time
is
limited.
Z
First.
Just
to
note
that
any
aspect
of
the
ordinance
you
may
have
questions
or
concerns
about,
there's
been
so
much
work
put
into
this
over
years,
not
just
by
us
and
when
I
say
yes,
I
mean
the
Coalition
that
I'm
here
with
as
a
member
of
plastics
free
wnc,
but
by
my
old,
my
old
law
school
did
a
law
school
Clinic
that
I
was
part
of
by
folks
around
the
state
by
folks
around
the
country.
Z
Z
It
is
not
something
that
you'd
be
sticking
your
neck
out
on.
It
is
something
that
has
been
done
in
cities,
towns,
States
counties
all
around
the
country,
including
the
South,
and
it
is
something
that
folks
have
had
a
lot
of
success
with,
and
it's
something
that
other
cities
in
this
in
this
state,
including
Durham
Chapel
Hill,
are
actively
considering.
So
you
are
not
alone.
Z
I
know
that
environmental
causes
are
close
to
the
heart
of
many
of
you,
and
so
I
I
feel
this
way
too.
I,
imagine
that
doing
something
this
small
can
feel
especially
small.
Given
the
magnitude
of
the
challenges
we
face,
but
I
think
the
point
I
want
to
make
tonight
is
that
if
we
can't
do
the
easy
stuff-
and
this
really
is
the
easy
stuff-
it
becomes
so
much
harder
to
imagine
doing
the
hard
stuff
so
I
know
the
people
of
Asheville.
The
people
of
North
Carolina
people
around
the
country.
Z
Look
to
Asheville
to
you
as
Leaders
of
this
city.
To
do
things
like
this
to
be
bold,
to
push
the
to
push
the
ball
forward
to
be
the
first
movers
and
I
really
hope
that
y'all
can
be
that
for
us.
So
I
hope
that
we
have
and
I
know
we
will
have
more
opportunities
to
discuss
this
I
know
there
are
many
behind
me
who
will
have
a
lot
more
to
say,
but
I'm
just
wanted
to
say
I'm
looking
forward
to
it.
If
you
have
any
questions,
I
am
sure
we
have
answers.
AC
Good
evening,
and
thank
you
for
all
your
time
that
you
put
in
to
being
in
the
city
council
and
mayor,
my
name
is
Marty
Terry,
Purdy
and
I
live
in
Haw,
Creek
and
I've,
been
in
Asheville
for
29
years,
and
I
just
admire
this
town
in
so
many
ways
with
its
forward
actions
in
in
the
things
that
we're
talking
about
and
I'm
going
to
talk
about
a
plastic
bag,
the
single-use
plastic
bag
that
you're
going
to
consider
in
the
future.
AC
It.
It
happened
to
me,
I
I,
used
to
put
my
plastic
bags
at
angles
in
the
big
box
and
I
found
out
that
they
weren't
ever
really
recycled.
Like
plastic
bags
can't
be
recycled
and
they're
used.
So
many
it's
like
a
hundred
billion
plastic
bags
every
year
are
used
and
it
takes
12
million
barrels
of
oil
to
produce
and
those
those
bags
are
produced
in
areas
that
are
low
income
and
I've,
seen
documentaries
about
these
places
where
people
have
to
live
and
breathe.
AC
AC
A
A
Laurie
Miller
and
then
Gene
Franklin.
N
Hello
and
thanks
for
your
time,
my
name
is
Jean
Franklin
I'm
on
the
earth
care
committee
at
my
church
and
I'm
working
hard
as
a
senior
citizen
on
environmental
issues.
N
Wendell
Berry
spoke
a
few
years
ago
at
Warren,
Wilson
College,
and
he
was
speaking
to
a
packed
house
and
the
first
thing
he
said
to
these
college
students
was:
our
generation
has
done
some
things
your
generation
is
going
to
have
to
undo
we're
going
to
have
to
these
kids
are
going
to
have
to
really
walk
back
some
of
the
luxury
and
waste
that
my
generation
has
enjoyed
and
I'm
the
first
year
of
baby
boomers.
So
90
of
all
the
carbon
that's
been
put
in,
the
atmosphere
has
been
put
in
the
atmosphere
in
my
lifetime.
N
So
anyway,
I'm
really
here
to
speak
about
the
plastic
bags.
They
are
one
of
the
the
things
that
we
can
do
now.
There
are
many
things
we
can't
fix
and
can't
correct,
but
you're
going
to
hear
some
statistics
tonight.
Every
year,
plastic
production,
just
the
production
of
plastic,
puts
as
much
greenhouse
gases
into
the
atmosphere
is
189
coal
plants.
That's
before
we
dispose
of
the
plastic
bags
and
the
statistic
that
has
touched
my
heart,
the
most
is
that
nine
percent
of
plastic
ever
gets
recycled.
N
Nine
percent,
a
million
tons
of
plastic,
are
put
on
container
ships
and
shipped
to
China
and
other
really
poor.
Third
world
countries
and
they're
unloaded
there
and
that's
where
a
lot
of
the
plastic
is
washed
into
the
ocean.
So
it
is
a
terrible
problem
and
we
can
do
something.
We
can
start
it's
going
to
be
hard
to
push
back
and
roll
back
all
these
the
waste
that
we
do.
But
thank
you
for
your
time
and
for
your
public
service.
Thank
you.
M
M
I
do
have
some
concern
about
eliminating
the
10
cent
fee
and
the
reason
is:
is
I've
studied
a
lot
of
other
locations
that
have
put
in
bag
Bans,
and
some
of
them
have
tried
instead
to
give
people
a
credit
if
they
bring
their
own
bag
and
that
hasn't
really
worked
it's
when
it
hits
their
pocket
that
they
then
remember
to
bring
their
own
back
and
just
as
a
little
visual
to
show
you
what
you
bring
in
your
own
bag
and
do
my
mom
gave
me
this
set
of
four
canvas
bags
30
years
ago
and
I've
used
them
every
single
week
since
then,
and
I
kind
of
figured
out
today,
it's
probably
eliminated
minimum
of
12
000
plastic
bags
from
the
environment,
and
people
can
remember
if
I
can
remember
to
get
mine
out
of
the
car
and
take
them
in
with
me.
W
Hello,
my
name
is
Tristan
iGo
and
I
am
here
to
support
the
plastic
bag
band
implementations,
Buncombe,
County,
Nashville
I
think
that
this
is
a
very
important
issue.
This
is
my
first
time
in
the
chamber
and
I
couldn't
help
noticing
how
many
of
the
Blue
Ridge
Mountains
we
have
at
the
top
here
and
I
think
that
this
issue
very
much
so
goes
in
line
with
trying
to
emphasize
the
natural
heritage
and
the
natural
resources
that
Buncombe,
County
and
Asheville
have
to
offer
here.
W
AF
AH
Hi,
my
name
is
Ali
Dom
I'm,
a
20
year
old
student
at
UNC,
Asheville
and
I'm
here
today
to
express
my
support
for
a
ban
on
single-use
plastic
bags
and
styrofoam
products
in
the
city
of
Asheville
I'm,
a
student
of
the
Environmental
Studies
department
and
a
climate
and
environmental
leader
on
campus
as
the
co-coordinator
for
the
UNCA
Sunrise
Hub
and
an
employee
of
our
student
Environmental
Center
Asheville
is
a
place
I.
Consider
my
second
home
and
I,
treat
it
with
the
same
care
and
concern
as
I
do
in
my
hometown.
AH
These
Plastic
Products
are
full
of
carcinogens
and
harmful
additives
that
leach
into
the
food
we
eat
the
water
we
drink
and
the
ground
we
walk
on
when
they
touch
our
food
or
are
littered
into
our
environment
and
left
to
break
down
into
microplastics.
As
aforementioned
the
French
Broad
is
already
filled
with
microplastics
and
the
average
human
consumes
about
a
credit
card's
worth
of
microplastics
weekly
they're
in
our
bloodstreams
and
the
air
we
breathe.
AH
AH
T
AH
A
K
I
was
really
taken
by
the
plastic
bags
that
I
saw
in
trees
and
in
our
in
our
rivers
and
blowing
down
the
roadways
and
I
thought.
You
know.
A
plastic
bag
band
should
be
a
really
easy
thing
to
pass
in
Asheville
because
we
live
in
such
a
beautiful
area.
So
many
people
are
committed
to
the
environment.
K
It's,
but
nothing
happened
and
I
didn't
do
anything
now,
14
years
later,
I
am
part
of
the
the
plastic
tree
wnc
and
like
all
of
you,
I
care
about
equity
and
so
I
took
on
the
task
of
looking
at
the
equity
aspects
of
this
proposed.
Plastic
Bag,
Bin
and
I
would
like
to
be
able
to
tell
you
in
two
minutes
of
what
I
have
found.
K
So
what
I
did
was
and
I
had
I
had
people
working
with
me.
It
wasn't
just
me
what
we
did
is
we
looked
at
organizations
that
served
the
unhoused
and
the
low-income
people,
and
we
surveyed
and
interviewed
them
as
well
as
and
there
were
21
organizations,
and
then
we
also
interviewed
individuals,
20
individuals
who
were
from
those
communities,
and
what
we
found
was
that
the
organizations
in
particular
supported
the
bag
ban,
but
they
realized
the
challenges
that
would
be
involved
in
instituting
it.
G
K
Okay
yeah,
so
the
organizations
were
supportive
of
the
plastic
bag
ban,
but
they
recognized
that
there
would
be
challenges
implementing
it
and
then
the
individuals
had
some
very
specific
comments
that
they
made
the
first
one
being
that
10
cents
is
too
much
for
an
unhoused
person
and
that
they
needed
to
be
provided
reusable
bags
at
free
of
charge,
and
they
had
specific
requests
about
these
bags.
They
wanted
them
to
be
waterproof
to
have
handles
that
they
would
close
to
keep
the
rain
out
and
that
they
would
fold
up
small,
so
plastic
plastic.
K
Free
wnc
is
looking
at
funding
for
purchasing
those
bags,
and
possibly
the
city
would
be
interested
in
in
helping
with
that.
But
I
do
hope
that
when
this
comes
up
to
a
boat
that
all
of
you
will
go
ahead
and
approve,
it
I
think
there
have
been
some
really
good
comments
supporting
why
we
should
do
this,
especially
since
we
are
Asheville.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
AD
I'm
Mark
Carson
I'm,
your
French
Broad
River
Keeper.
We
were
not
smart
enough
to
wear
plastic
bags
on
our
heads,
but
I
think
you
can
see.
There's
overwhelming
support
for
this
type
of
action
in
Asheville
and
luckily
for
us,
there's
been
almost
400
local
governments
across
the
country
that
have
taken
action
on
plastic.
So
we
were
really
behind
the
curve.
But
the
good
news
is:
we've
learned
a
tremendous
amount
from
those
local
governments.
AD
So
all
the
questions
that
are
probably
floating
around
in
your
head
right
now
have
been
answered
by
a
reputable
local
government
and,
as
Henry
mentioned
quite
a
few
in
the
South
I
think
there
are
15
in
South
Carolina.
So
if
you
have
concerns,
please
do
please
do
reach
out
to
us,
because
this
may
be
the
first
time
we're
shown
up
to
council,
but
is
by
no
means
the
first
time
that
we
have
dug
deep
into
the
questions
and-
and
we
think
we
have
all
the
answers
necessary
to
make
this
important
decisions.
But
I.
AD
Thank
you
guys,
because
you
guys
have
been
very
receptive.
Listen
to
us
meeting
with
us!
We've
taken
a
lot
of
your
time.
A
lot
of
Brad's
time
and
we're
looking
forward
to
see
it
move
forward.
AD
I
know
that
this
seems
like
out
of
the
million
things
that
you
have
to
do
that
this
seems
somewhat
out
of
left
field,
but
I
want
to
tie
it
together,
because
most
people
think
that
when
we're
talking
about
plastic
bags
and
styrofoam
we're
just
talking
about
trash
in
our
waterways
or
trash
along
our
roadways,
but
it's
much
bigger
than
that.
AD
They
break
into
smaller
and
smaller
pieces
called
microplastics,
and
every
single
sample
that
mountain
tree
has
taken
has
microplastics
in
it
throughout
Western
North
Carolina,
including
the
French
Broad
River,
so
we're
dealing
with
not
a
trash,
not
just
a
trash
bomb,
but
we're
dealing
with
the
human
health
and
environmental
health
problem
as
that
breaks
down
and
gets
into
the
food
web,
including
into
humans
and
the
credit
card
worth
of
microplastics
is
true.
It's
so
prevalent
that
when
we
take
our
samples,
we
have
to
open
our
bottles
underwater
because
microplastics
are
in
the
air.
AD
So
it's
human
health,
it's
environmental
health,
but
it
also
directly
ties
into
your
climate
objectives,
which
were
mentioned
before
plastic
is
really
seen
as
Plan
B
for
the
oil
companies.
They
recognize
that
as
we
move
away
from
from
gasoline
and
in
cars
that
they
have
to
meet
that
demand
somewhere
else
and
they've
been
very
successful,
doing
it
with
plastics
and
we're
hoping
this
type
of
action
can
curb
that
going
forward,
and
it
is
also
directly
an
equity
objective
that
you
guys
have
prioritized.
You
know
when
ever
our
Communications
folks
are
like.
AD
Branch,
it
is
full
of
plastics,
historic,
African-American,
neighborhood,
but
also
those
Plastics
are
manufactured
in
the
cancer
alleys
of
our
country
and,
as
they
were
mentioned,
they're
shipped
across
seas
and
dumped
in
our
oceans
and
dumped
on
poor
countries.
So
it
it
is
much
bigger
than
just
you
know.
The
visual
aspect
of
trash
along
our
rivers
and
our
roadways,
and
so
I
appreciate
you
guys
time
and
appreciate
you
guys
moving
the
ball
forward
and
we
look
forward.
T
T
It
won't
be
an
immediate
change,
but
this
will
definitely
be
a
huge
move
in
the
right
direction.
The
North,
Carolina
Solid
Waste
Management
act
mandates
that
the
city
of
Asheville
and
other
local
local
governments
quote
address
deficiencies
and
protect
human
health
and
the
environment.
End
quote:
microplastics
are
incredibly
harmful
to
the
environment
and
human
health,
as
was
also
mentioned
earlier.
T
Their
samples
have
been
found
in
humans,
and
that
is
also
an
incredible
danger
to
our
health
and
it's
you
know
about
most
important
importance
that
we
support
our
environment
and
our
own
health
and
work
to
do
all
the
things
that
we
can,
such
as
in
passing.
This
and
I
really
hope
that
you
take
the
time
to
look
at
it
and
listen
to
all
the
people
here
in
support
and
I
appreciate
you
all
staying
and
listening
to
our
comments
tonight.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
That
is
the
last
person
we
had
signed
up
to
speak
under
public
comment
and
so
you've
got
I.
Think
so
we're
not
so
yeah
we're
asking
people
to
sign
up
so
that
we're
not
we're
we're
following
our
process
and
procedure.
I'm.
Sorry,
so,
just
to
reiterate,
the
plastic
span
will
be
coming
to
the
governance
committee
on
September
12th
12th
at
probably
22
30.
Z
A
September
13th
at
2,
30
and
I
believe
the
format
of
that
meeting
will
be
virtual,
so
make
make
attendance
a
little
bit
easier
for
folks
and
then
from
there.
It
would
go
to
to
council
back
to
council.
So
just
in
terms
of
the
next
steps.