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From YouTube: City Council Meeting – July 23, 2019
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July 23, 2019
Asheville City Council Meeting
A
A
E
E
There's
the
bond
project
at
the
Richmond
Hill
bathrooms
and
picnic
shelter,
there's
a
sidewalk
project
on
wood,
Avenue
sidewalks
on
Long
Shoals,
there's
a
finally
starting
reconstruction
of
the
art
station
passenger
waiting
area
bathrooms.
All
of
that
so
we're
approving
contracts
for
all
of
that
work
to
be
done,
and
all
of
that
is
it's
really
good.
So
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
things
do
get
done.
A
A
Bribe
is
ensuring
they
receive
community
support
to
develop
and
sustain
healthy
lifestyles
and
whereas,
according
to
the
American
Academy
of
Pediatrics,
Academy
of
Nutrition
and
Dietetics
American
College
of
obstetrics
and
gynaecology
American
Academy
of
Family,
Physicians
and
other
leading
health
organization.
Breastfeeding
is
the
optimal
food
for
infants.
A
Whereas
a
mother's
decision
to
breastfeed
their
babies
should
be
supported
by
her
family
and
community
and
whereas
breastfeeding
is
associated
with
lower
rates
of
childhood.
Illness
such
as
obesity,
diabetes
and
infectious
diseases,
as
well
as
less
maternal,
breast
and
ovarian
cancers
and
diabetes,
and
a
faster
recovery
from
childbirth
as
compared
to
formula-feeding
and
whereas
breastfeeding
promotes
maternal
infant
bonding
and
benefits
the
entire
family
as
its
associated
with
lifelong
health
and
development
and
whereas
collaborating
with
health
care
providers
and
community
resources
can
positively
impact
breastfeeding
success.
A
And
whereas
our
community
is
proud
to
have
Mission
Hospital
with
a
Baby
Friendly
hospital
initiative,
designation
and
whereas
in
his
Proclamation
supporting
the
2018
World
Breastfeeding
week.
The
governor
of
the
state
of
North
Carolina
has
recognized
that
in
a
world
filled
with
inequality,
crises
and
poverty.
F
So,
thank
you
very
much.
I
would
like
to
thank
the
City
Council
for
supporting
this
community-wide
effort
to
normalize
breastfeeding
for
all
receipt
of
this
designation
will
be
a
remarkable
achievement
for
our
community
and
it
supports
improved
health
outcomes
for
all
people
in
Buncombe
County.
We
know
our
community
is
well-positioned
for
this
designation
with
many
positive
and
encouraging
practices
already
in
motion.
We
will
keep
you
updated
by
sharing
information
and
milestones
as
we
go
along.
So
thank
you
very
much.
G
Good
evening,
vice
mayor
members
of
council
members
out
of
the
public,
this
next
item
on
your
agenda
is
a
conditional
zoning
request
for
the
property
located
at
2360
sweet'n
Creek
Road,
the
the
subject.
Property
actually
has
the
address
of
one
Wesley
driving,
you
can
see
the
property
is
surrounded
by
or
it's
actually
kind
of,
nestled
in
the
loop
or
the
bend
of
Wesley
Drive
2360
is
the
address
for
the
larger
Givens
the
state,
and
this
is
part
of
the
Givens
estate
property.
G
It
is
over
200
acre
campus
and
this
particular
parcel
is
4.3
acres
and
kind
of
nestled
in
the
center
of
the
campus.
The
request
is
to
rezone
the
property
from
RM
16,
and
you
can
see
from
the
exhibit
a
map,
the
demarcation
line
between
our
s
2
and
our
m
16,
the
Givens
estate,
being
as
large
as
it
is,
as
it
is,
actually
supports
a
number
of
different
zoning
designations.
G
The
request
is
to
rezone
from
arm
16
to
residential
expansion
conditional
zone
and,
as
you
can
see,
from
the
Exhibit
B
area
map,
the
property
is
already
developed
and
it's
again
I
located
in
the
middle
of
the
larger
Givens,
the
state
community,
and
you
can
see
some
of
that
surrounding
residential
development.
That's
part
of
the
larger
community.
The
request
is
triggered
by
the
proposed
demolition
of
the
11
existing
buildings
to
be
replaced
with
two
new
modern
residential
buildings.
G
The
new
buildings
will
house
a
total
of
80
units,
which
is
actually
a
net
reduction
from
the
existing
86
units.
However,
because
this
is
a
demolition
with
brand
new
construction,
we
look
at
it
as
a
brand
new
project
and
it
meets
the
level
3
threshold
which,
in
turn
triggers
the
conditional
zoning.
In
addition
to
the
two
new
buildings,
there
are
a
number
of
other
site
improvements
associated
with
the
project,
including
the
reconstruction
of
the
parking
area
for
a
total
of
98
parking
spaces,
landscaping,
ample
open
space
and
a
number
of
sidewalks
and
other
pedestrian
connections.
B
G
Revised
list
of
b1
conditions
in
preparation
for
the
meeting
this
evening,
the
project
engineer
contacted
our
staff
inquiring
about
the
Greenway.
That
load
is
located
along
the
creek,
the
property,
the
Greenway,
the
existing
Greenway
and
sidewalk
is
already
located
within
the
30
foot
aquatic
buffer,
and
our
ordinance
does
allow
for
the
replacement
of
the
existing
feature.
G
But
we
thought
it
was
important
to
go
ahead
and
note
that
in
the
b1
conditions,
just
so
that
it
was
very
clear,
the
buildings
will
be
residential
and
appearance
with
materials
that
are
consistent
with
the
rest
of
the
development.
Depending
on
your
perspective,
it
could
be
three
to
four
stories,
as
you
can
see,
from
the
proposed
building.
Elevations
and
that
concludes
my
introduction.
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
or
the
developers
representative
may
be
here.
B
I
I
E
J
I
That
it's
it's
actually
nestled
within
the
center
of
campus,
near
to
one
of
our
central
buildings,
Asbury
Commons,
you
know:
we've
looked
at
a
number
of
issues,
we're
actually
reducing
the
number
of
units
from
86
to
80,
like
introduce
Tom,
Jones
who's.
Our
civil
engineer,
to
give
a
little
more
in-depth
detail
about
the
slight
development.
K
Good
evening
my
name
is
Tom.
Jones
I'm,
with
WJLA
engineering
I
also
have
Tyler
Wagner
from
our
office,
and
kin
partnering
with
Givens
is
also
here
and
I.
Think
Shan
did
a
great
job
of
the
overview
of
the
project.
It
is
in
the
central
part
of
the
campus
as
part
of
the
girls
process.
We
had
a
neighborhood
meeting.
I
just
want
to
kind
of
touch
on
that,
because
I
think
it's
important
to
know
how
the
neighbors
and
how
the
community
feels
about
the
project.
K
The
Pope
meeting
was
in
an
informal
public
meeting,
was
held
on
March
the
11th
and
hosted
by
Givens
and
all
owners
within
200
feet
of
the
campus
anywhere.
The
campus
within
200
feet
were
invited
to
attend,
not
just
from
within
the
little
the
little
piece
that
we're
talking
about
here
tonight.
But
anyway,
any
property
owner
within
200
feet
of
Givens
of
State's
property
was
invited
to
attend
and
we
had
two
neighbors
show
up
and
two
residents
of
Givens,
and
that
was
it
I.
K
Think
it's
safe
to
say:
that's,
not
a
controversial
project,
don't
think
that
it
speaks
to
where
it's
located,
which
is
internal
to
the
campus.
It
also
speaks
to
the
nature
of
Givens
of
States
and
the
good
things
that
they
do
for
seniors
and
the
quality
of
the
product
and
projects
that
they've
done
in
the
past.
So
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
it's
not
a
controversial
project.
I
think
there's
good
reasons
behind
that
and
we're
just
proud
to
be
a
part
of
that
project.
K
Team,
like
Ms,
tuck,
also
I,
think
she
outlined,
or
it's
in
your
report,
that
this
project
also
meets
all
the
requirements
at
Rawls,
a
cz
zoning
subject
to
the
conditions
that
that
are
presented
there
and
I
think
it
is
important
to
know
or
to
re-emphasize
that
it
meets
the
council
goal
of
responsible
growth.
It's
in
line
with
your
comprehensive
plan
as
compatible
with
the
surrounding
land
land
uses,
which
are
also
residential,
forgivenss
estates.
This
is
a
one.
K
Drawings
of
the
type
of
buildings
that
are
they're
going
to
go
in
so
basically
these
buildings
are
replacing.
Small
units
are
really
smaller
than
people
would
want
to
rent
now,
but
were
able
to
consolidate
those
into
two
two
buildings
versus
the
11
they'll
be
demolished,
and
so
this
is
what
they
look
like
two
levels:
to
kind
of
work,
with
the
topography
to
the
greatest
extent
possible
out
there
beyond
that,
I
guess
I
just
like
to
be
available
for
questions
related
to
the
site
or
the
project
and
Givens
is
here
as
well.
E
K
K
A
I
will
open
it
up
to
public
comment.
I'll
go
through
our
no
rules,
so
you
have
three
minutes
unless
you
have
three
people
who
agreed
to
give
up
their
time
for
public
comment
and
if
so
that
is
ten
minutes
and
it's
limited
to
what
we're
discussing
right
now.
So
it's
public
comment
for
this
issue.
So
do
I.
Have
any
public
comment.
M
M
N
Moved
to
recommend
approval
of
the
additional
zoning
request
for
the
D
Gibbons
estate,
Friendship
Park,
located
at
23
60s
Wheaton
Creek
Road
from
residential
multifamily,
high
density
district,
RM
16
to
residential
expansion,
district
conditional
zone,
the
demolition
of
11
buildings,
86
housing
units
to
be
replaced
with
the
construction
of
two
buildings
comprising
80
housing
units
in
fine
with
the
request
is
reasonable,
is
in
the
public
interest
and
is
consistent
with
the
city's
comprehensive
plan.
In
that
one.
The
future
land-use
category
allows
for
multifamily
structures
that
is
consistent
with
the
proposed
residential
expansion.
A
Opposed
great
so
the
second
public
hearing,
which
is
to
consider
the
conditional
zoning
of
one
South
tunnel,
Road
from
regional
business
district
to
mixed,
used
expansion
conditional
zone
to
allow
a
mixed-use
development
that
includes
residential
retail
service
and
entertainment
use
it
uses.
The
petitioner
has
asked
that
this
public
hearing
be
continued
until
August
27th.
J
O
Okay
good
evening,
paul
d'angelo
with
the
Community
and
Economic
Development
Department
good
evening,
city
council
city
management,
thanks
for
having
us
here
tonight
to
talk
about
three
Housing
Trust
Fund
applications
that
are
full
before
you
tonight
with
staff
reports
with
additional
detail.
We
put
together
a
presentation
to
discuss
three
of
these
briefly
looking
at
the
funding
funding
sources
and
the
total
number
of
affordable
units
we'll
be
getting
and
looking
for
an
adoption
of
resolutions
to
approve
the
Housing
Trust
Fund
loan
applications
or
loan
modifications
to
help
assist
and
complete
these
projects.
O
So
the
three
projects
before
you
tonight
are
short
Michigan,
which
will
be
with
homeward
bound
for
permanent,
supportive
housing.
We're
also
looking
at
the
amaranth
Apartments,
which
is
a
tax
credit
development,
and
we
are
also
talking
tonight
about
Swannanoa
Bend,
which
is
an
affordable
housing
development
with
a
local
developer
here
in
town,
I'll,
start
off
with
Short
Michigan,
so
again,
working
here
with
him
and
we're
bound
whose
mission
is
focused
on
housing,
our
homeless
population,
particularly
with
permanent
supportive
housing
and
the
housing
first
model.
O
With
this
funding
they're
looking
at
adding
five
more
units
as
well
as
rehabbing
units,
they
have
four
eleven
rental
units
total
for
permanent
supportive
housing.
These
11
units,
in
total,
when
completed
with
the
addition
and
the
rehabilitation,
will
be
eight
one-bedroom
units
and
three
two-bedroom
units,
and
these
will
all
be
run
into
households
under
30%
of
our
area.
O
B
O
A
O
E
E
A
P
Good
evening
to
the
council,
I'm
Meredith
Schweitzer,
the
executive
director
at
homeward
bound
and
what
I
do
want
to
say
is.
We
are
very
grateful
and
appreciative
for
this
support
and
for
the
advocates
advocacy
I
want
to
thank
the
council
members
who
aren't
on
the
HDD
committee
council
members,
Smith
young
and
may
feel.
Thank
you
for
your
support.
Thank
you
for
allowing
us
to
move
into
this.
P
This
is
really
going
to
be
our
first
foray
into
affordable
housing
and
we
are
incredibly
excited
about
the
impact
of
that,
and
not
only
what
it's
going
to
mean
for
the
folks
who
we
are
able
to
house
at
this
property
at
this
site,
but
also
what
it's
going
to
mean
for
the
community
moving
forward
with
much
bigger
projects
with
greater
impact.
So
again,
I
wanted
to
extend
a
very
heartfelt
thank
you
on
behalf
of
whom
we're
bound.
Q
Bryan,
that's
been
I'm,
one
of
the
board
members
that
homeward
bound
really.
The
big
thing
here
is
that
this
is
a
great
example
of
where
city
money
being
first
in
really
enables
us
to
tackle
one
of
the
largest
problems
we
have
in
our
community,
which
is
affordable,
housing
for
those
at
under
30%,
AMI
and
I.
Q
E
E
Not
a
question
just
a
comment
in
case:
it's
not
clear
to
people
from
the
application.
This
is.
This
is
a
perhaps
the
first
example
since
I've
been
on
council
of
of
an
organization
coming
in
and
purchasing
housing
to
keep
it
affordable.
So
we
normally
are
funding
new
construction,
and
this
is
this-
is
trying
to
keep
existing
housing
affordable
over
the
long
term,
and
this
is
going
to
be
permanently
affordable.
That's
under
your
under
your
care.
Q
J
You
I
don't
have
a
question
just
a
comment:
this
came
to
HCD
in
June
and
so
very
worthy
project,
and
it's
gonna
do
a
lot
of
good
and
I,
appreciate
your
organization
stepping
out
and
taking
the
making
the
opportunity
for
folks
to
have
this
in
the
future.
So
thank
you
and
I
hope
that
you
continue
to
do
projects
on
this
caliber,
yes
level.
Thank
you.
Thank.
Q
A
E
J
B
A
O
So
working
with
Kirk
Boott,
the
local
developer
for
affordable
housing
on
Swannanoa
Bend,
where
there's
going
to
be
770
rental
apartments,
all
one
bedrooms
and
also
utilizing
the
Housing
Choice
vouchers,
which
we
know
are
always
in
search
of
a
home
here
in
the
community,
so
Kirk
being
one
of
our
local
developers,
who
does
a
great
job
of
accepting
vouchers.
Also
here
it's
one
of
the
first
forays
into
modular
constructions.
O
So
it's
very
important
that
part
of
our
work
we're
looking
at
affordable
housing
and
cost
as
design
and
construction
innovations,
and
so
it's
very
interesting
to
see
this
project
move
forward
and
again
similar
to
other
projects
that
are
before
you
tonight
with
Housing
Trust
Funds.
These
will
all
be
rented
to
households
under
60%
of
the
area
median
income
and,
as
I
mentioned,
what
the
vouchers
were
talking.
Hud
vouchers,
Housing,
Authority
home
were
bound
by
a
health,
so
very
excited
to
support
this.
O
The
original
sources
came
in
here
with
a
traditional
bank
loan
from
home,
Trust
Bank,
some
funding
from
Buncombe
County,
as
well
as
an
original
request.
You
might
remember
300,000
additional
350
for
a
total
of
650
thousand
in
housing.
Trust
onwards,
originally
Kirk
has
come
back
asking
for
some
additional
funds
from
the
Housing
Trust
Funds,
an
additional
650,000,
which
would
be
a
1.3
million
dollar
Housing
Trust
Fund,
due
to
some
cost
increases
due
to
design
and
installation
of
a
dry
sprinkler
system.
O
A
R
A
J
Don't
have
any
questions
just
to
comment
again.
This
also
came
to
HCD
and
I
would
also
commend
the
community
on
this
and
say
this
is
definitely
a
worthy
project
in
my
eyes,
renting
and
how
to
households
at
sixty
percent
below
the
ami
and
accepting
the
Housing
Choice
vouchers
is
something
very
needed
in
the
community
right
now.
J
There
are
lots
of
people
who
have
the
Housing
Choice
vouchers
and
are
unable
to
use
those
around
the
community
right
now,
so
this
is
going
to
definitely
free
up
some
families
to
be
able
to
to
move
into
a
affordable
nice
space
to
live
in
and
raise
their
family.
So
again,
thank
you
and
I
hope
you
continue
to
work
as
you're
doing
as
well.
Yeah.
E
E
So
we
have
a
private
and
Curtis
has
developed
many
projects
here
in
town
and
he
figured
out
how
to
make
it
work
and
we
would
love
to
be
working
with
more
private
developers.
So
if
you
are
a
private
housing
developer,
do
not
think
that
you
cannot
make
this
work
because
you
can
because
Kirk
does
over.
M
Just
trying
to
think
up
the
fort
hood
anyway,
I
am
Timothy
Sadler
still
and
I
was
also
wondering
about
public
art
this
one
because
we
got
city
money
in
it,
and
so
that
is
that,
like
a
new
development
for
City,
I
I
think
we
have
like
1%
for
new
projects
or
something
for
public
art.
So
do
we
get
public
art
with
this
one.
T
E
E
J
O
O
This
will
be
70
rental
apartments,
14,
one
bedrooms,
35
two
bedrooms
and
21
three
bedrooms,
I
think
is
most
of
you
know
through
either
the
affordable
housing
advisory
committee
or
Housing
and
Community
Development.
We
are
updating
the
bone
or
porn
and
of
those
reports
usually
come
back
with
a
need
for
studios
ones
and
twos.
O
As
most
of
you
probably
know,
tax
credit
developments
can
be
tricky,
especially
coming
up
with
the
sources
to
finance
this
project,
and
so
taking
a
look
here
where
the
city's
Housing
Trust
Fund
fit
in.
Along
with
the
wards,
our
funding
from
North
Carolina
Housing,
Finance
Agency,
the
equity
and
the
tax
credits.
Also,
some
home
funds
from
the
Asheville
Regional
Housing
consortium.
There
was
an
additional
required
funds
that
they
were
for
1.37
million
and
working
in
partnership
with
Jim
you
mean
and
Hammer
apartments.
O
We
were
able
to
see
where
we
could
fit
in
to
help
cover
some
of
that
gap
to
where
now,
instead
of
a
$600,000
housing
trust
fund,
it
is
a
1.2
million
dollar
housing,
trust
fund
and
Jim,
and
his
group
were
able
to
fill
the
that
other
deficit
with
some
additional
funding
through
value
engineering
and
also
some
additional
loan
funds
from
CSG
and
their
cost
increases
were
due
to
some
that
late
notification
of
the
Ward
I
mentioned,
as
well
as
associated
inflation
with
costs.
And
so
that
is
the
amarynth
Jim
is
not
here
tonight.
O
But
we're
happy
to
answer
any
questions
and
if
I
can
just
the
best
reason
to
fly
back
from
New
York
today
was
to
come
in
for
this
slide,
because
this
shows,
where,
with
city's
housing,
trust
fund
of
3
million
dollars
for
these
projects
for
getting
145
new,
affordable
units
to
individuals
and
families
making
under
60%
of
area
median
income,
tackling
the
30%
AMI,
also
our
homeless,
households,
with
a
variety
of
bedroom
sizes
and
coming
in
at
just
under
20,000.
Eight
hundred
ninety
seven
dollars
per
unit
and
the
community
development
team
is
really
proud
of
this.
O
Because
it's
working
with
our
mission-driven
developers,
who
are
really
out
there
doing
the
hardest
work
and
tackling
those
individuals
and
families
under
60%
of
area
median
income
so
great
to
see
how
we're
bound
tax
credit,
development
and
local
developer
private
developer
here
tonight
so
happy
to
answer
any
questions
back
to
a
maratha.
Thank
you
for
that.
Okay,.
O
O
U
U
E
T
E
Not-
and
you
know,
we're
more
projects
are
coming
in
cost
overruns
or
we
we
haven't.
Even
we
haven't
even
started
to
put
money
toward
our
city-owned
properties
yet,
and
we
just
at
the
Finance
Committee
meeting
this
afternoon,
had
the
first
conversation
about
getting
into
a
new
pattern
of
general
obligation,
bonds
and
I
suggested
that
we
should
absolutely
look
at
including
affordable
housing
as
a
part
of
that
as
we
go
on,
because
we
just
25
million
dollars.
It
sounds
big,
but
it's
not
going
to
go
very
far
to
meet
the
needs
in
this
community
and.
E
O
A
J
Have
a
question
I
know
the
applicant
is
probably
gonna
come
up,
but
before
they
do
just
want
to
highlight
again,
which
you
already
mentioned,
the
project
is
proposed.
It's
gonna
have
14
one
bedrooms,
35
two
bedrooms,
21
three-bedroom,
Apartments
and
specifically
18
apartments
that
are
set
aside
for
deeply
affordable
at
30
percent
AMI
and
just
kind
of
a
wrap
up
the
previous
projects
that
we
approved
earlier
tonight.
J
This
these
are
the
sorts
of
projects
that
I'm
wanting
to
see
coming
through,
that
are
deeply
affordable,
60%
ami
and
the
30%
and
projects
that
accept
Housing,
Choice
vouchers,
so
I'm
definitely
thrilled
with
the
projects
that
are
coming
through
the
night
and
believe
that
they
are
all
worthy
projects.
So
with
that
Rekha's
I,
don't.
L
D
S
E
S
S
C
A
Thank
you.
Okay,
with
that
I
will
close
the
formal
meeting
and
open
it
up
for
informal
discussion
and
public
comments.
So
I've
got
some
folks
who
have
signed
up,
but
everyone
will
have
a
chance
to
speak,
but
we'll
start
with
the
people
who
signed
up
I'll
go
over
the
rules.
Again,
you
have
three
minutes.
If
you
want
more
than
that
up
to
ten
minutes,
three
people
need
to
cede
their
time
to
give
public
comment,
and
we
talked
about
anything
that
has
not
been
discussed
on
the
agenda
previously.
V
V
I
have
seen
that
okay
I
appreciate
that
again,
my
name
is
drew
Crawford
and
vice-mayor.
I.
Believe
you've
heard
me
talk
about
my
indoor
job
of
I
love,
small
businesses
and
my
small
business
consulting
the
HDD.
Thank
you
guys.
You
have
heard
me
speak
already
about
my
outdoor
job,
which
is
creating
space
for
tiny
houses
and
working
to
really
create
space
for
tiny
houses.
V
V
But
first,
what
is
a
tiny
house
we're
talking
about
structures
that
are
under
400
square
feet?
We
were
talking
about
tiny
houses
on
wheels,
we're
specifically
talking
about
things
that
are
meant
to
be
towed
periodically
eight
and
a
half
feet
wide,
typically
12
to
40
feet
long.
If
you
want
to
translate
that
into
square
feet,
we're
talking
plus
or
minus
200
square
feet
and
if
I
sound
familiar
it's
because
you've
heard
me
before
also
talked
about
my
pigs
and
the
fence
when
they
did
a
conditional
zoning
of
the
hotel
property.
V
Next
to
me,
we're
in
extreme
east
Asheville
were
the
last
real
property
in
the
city
of
Asheville
just
for
reference
in
terms
of
where
we
are
located
on
Burleson
Road
and
to
introduce
a
few,
the
folks
in
the
picture
in
the
bottom
right
hand,
corner
we've
got
folks
who
are
a
woodworker
taking
over
the
family
business
work,
another
person
working
in
the
service
industry.
Another
person
has
worked
for
the
Humane
Society
in
the
back.
You
can
see
in
the
bus
in
the
corner,
Erik,
Kincaid
and
Sonny
are
in
the
back.
V
That's
me
working
in
my
house.
First
thing
we
want
to
talk
about
is
Life
Safety,
Building
Code.
There
are
third
party
inspection
processes
that
have
been
approved
as
a
pathway
by
the
State
Fire
Marshal
and
these
certifications.
Do
you
take
different
formats,
but
basically
rest
assured
that
if
you
have
a
NOAA
national
organization
of
alternative
housing
house,
it
has
been
certified
and
we'll
talk
about
more
about
the
different
jurisdictions
they're.
Accepting
that
the
other
big
issue
other
than
building
is
zoning
and
property
rights
to
big
buckets
and
tiny
houses.
V
If
it's
on
wheels
we're
really
talking
about
RVs,
that's
the
regulatory
structure,
we're
operating
in
we'll
talk
about
the
hundred
and
eighty
eight
rule.
If
it's
permanent
on
a
foundation
will
talk
about
HUD
manufactured
homes
or
again,
this
concept
of
a
code
compliant
no
a
house
being
used
as
a
permanent
structure.
V
But
there
are
ways
to
talk
about
those
differences,
tiny
houses
on
wheels
as
compared
to
traditional
RVs.
If
you
will
ten
cans
versus
stick
built,
homes
are
energy
efficient,
durable,
repairable,
they
create
value.
You'll,
hear
me
talking
just
a
second
about
working
with
incomes
between
that
sixty
and
eighty
percent
range
that
not
only
is
rent
but
we're
actually
have
ownership
over
the
home.
You're
living
in
one
of
the
references
we
are
talking
about
is
movable
with
one
hour
and
again
what
tiny
homes
are
not
they're,
not
tied
to
a
park
that
can
continually
increase
prices.
V
This
is
why
on
wheels
is
a
necessary
part
of
our
conversation,
because
we
have
large
investment
funds
going
in
this
region,
buying
up
mobile
home
parks
and
they're,
not
really
mobile.
The
prices
get
raised
in
the
lot
rents.
The
people
are
stuck
there.
If
you
keep
it
on
wheels,
we're
in
much
better
shape.
V
What
do
we
need
to
add
tiny
houses
to
the
affordable
housing
toolbox?
We
need
to
start
looking
at
what
zoning
is
available
to
tiny
houses.
We
need
to
expand
where
they
are
available
not
take
over
the
way.
Again.
The
topic
will
come
back
to
explore
floodplains,
village,
infill
or
smaller
projects.
Alternatives
to
ad.
V
As
a
mortgage
on
the
house
that
is
movable,
we
can
also
talk
about
different
places
you
want
to
put
them.
Do
you
want
to
put
them
in
campgrounds
like
exists
in
Florida,
or
maybe
campgrounds
that
exist
in
Hendersonville?
There
are
properties
in
Hendersonville,
simple
life,
Aiken
Ebell
that
have
already
solved
this
problem
that
are
really
designed
as
communities
around
these
ideas.
V
Portland
they're,
the
namesake,
but
the
city
of
Durham
has
been
able
to
take
the
Noah
certification,
attach
it
to
a
foundation
and
clear
through
the
state
of
North
Carolina.
As
a
dwelling
unit,
Henderson
County
again,
we've
already
talked
about
the
two
major
projects
that
are
there.
Lake
Dallas
Texas
used
a
planning
urban
development
of
pilot
I
believe
they
call
that
San
Luis
Obispo
they're
the
ones
who
wrote
an
entire
policy
so
that
they
can
accept
them
as
ad
use,
including
annual
inspections.
V
It's
really
hard
to
have
a
conversation
with
just
one
person
at
a
time,
because
you've
heard,
if
not
in
my
backyard,
not
in
my
bucket.
It's
everyone
saying
it's
the
other
person's
job
to
get
this
process
started.
So
my
ask
of
you,
as
a
council
is,
as
you
begin
and
now
believe,
September
talking
about
affordable
housing
recognize
that
this
cross-disciplinary
subject
requires
well
a
multifunctional
team
to
sit
down
in
one
place
at
one
time
to
really
make
this
happen
and
I
believe
it
can
happen
quickly.
With
this
basis.
V
Well,
I
will
be
sending
to
each
of
you
a
link
to
the
documents
and
other
things
that
I've
cited
this
evening
following
never
make
a
presentation
without
quoting
yourself
building
a
tiny
house
is
hard
finding
a
place
to
put.
It
is
harder
and
more
recently
putting
the
mobile
back
in
mobile
homes
really
making
them
as
value
creation
prospects
for
folks
and
again,
this
emphasis
that
these
are
families
who
are
living
in
these
areas
may
I
have
a
time
check
by
the
way.
V
Thank
you
that
these
really
are
families
sunny
in
the
back
is
no
longer
the
youngest
occupant
of
our
community,
and
our
community
at
the
moment
is
one
house
with
three
bedrooms,
two
of
which
are
used
as
a
homestay
six
parking
spots,
one
of
which
is
on
Airbnb
as
a
short-term
rental.
So
people
can
actually
visit
and
experience
what
it's
like
to
live
in
a
tiny
house.
The
other
five
are
what
I
describe
as
owner-occupied
in
other
the
person
who
built
it
lives
in
it,
and
that
is
really
what
I
want
to
help
you.
V
The
city
with
is
I
want
to
help
move
this
project
forward,
as
best
I
can,
but
I
need
to
ask
for
your
help.
I
believe
you
will
recognize
this
as
the
change
of
use
table
from
the
January
9th
2018
meeting
I'll
say
that
I
had
a
small
part
in
it.
If
you
look
under
homestay
and
highway
business
HB
near
the
middle,
it
is
a
P
use
that
got
changed
to
an
S
in
2017.
V
I
got
a
Notice
of
Violation
that
I
didn't
have
a
homestay
permit
and
I
said,
but
it's
a
permitted
use
and
they
basically
said
yes,
but
we
want
you
to
pull
a
permit.
We
want
to
treat
it
as
if
it
was
already
in
a
house,
because
we
need
to
document
this
and
understand.
What's
going
on
so
I
filled
out
the
permit.
At
that
time,
I
asked:
hey.
I
also
have
this
campground
with
the
one
that's
on
wheels.
Do
we
need
to
talk
about
that,
and
the
answer
was:
was
that's
a
campground?
That's
something
else.
V
We
don't
want
to
talk
about
that.
We
want
to
focus
on
the
main
structure,
the
house
and
I'm
like
great,
but,
as
things
happen,
our
house
was
on
fire.
We
had
to
move
quickly.
The
city
had
to
move
quickly
to
deal
with
houses
becoming
rentals.
So
now,
if
you
look
under
campground
under
HB,
you'll
notice
that
that
far
left
P
is
crossed
out.
V
We're
going
to
call
it
the
water
damage
from
trying
to
put
out
the
house
fire,
and
there
are
some
other
inconsistencies.
It's
the
only
time
that
P's
weren't
replaces,
with
s's
you'll,
also
notice
that,
while
lodging
expansion
was
added
to
campgrounds
permitted
residential
expansion
wasn't
which
might
be
a
more
appropriate
expansion
uses
for
campground,
because
we
really
want
to
talk
about
these
as
residences.
V
A
L
Thank
you
for
allowing
counsel
of
independent
business
owners
to
make
public
comment
regarding
city
of
Asheville's
annual
budgeting
process
for
upcoming
and
subsequent
years,
I'm
representing
the
council
business,
the
Council
of
independent
business
owners
budget
committee,
professionally
I've,
been
a
CPA
here
in
Nashville
for
more
than
30
years.
We
understand
that
you
have
completed
the
budget
process
for
2019
and
2020,
certainly
you're
happy
that
the
process
is
over
and
you
can
now
get
on
to
other
business.
L
Last
year
we
presented
findings
regarding
the
budget
and
made
some
recommendations
for
dealing
with
the
rehabilitation
of
the
city's
infrastructure.
We
are
back
again
this
year
addressing
many
of
the
same
issues.
We
are
still
concerned
with
the
city's
handling
of
the
core
infrastructure
components
transit.
This
is
the
word
that
we
are
hearing
in
almost
every
City
Council
meeting.
L
Additionally,
we
are
reminded
over
and
over
again
about
the
need
for
more
funding
and
the
possibility
of
more
tax
dollars
being
raised
upon
this
activity.
We
do
not
dispute
the
need
for
a
transit
system,
Asheville
needs
one.
The
problem
here,
though,
is
to
record,
is
the
request
to
grow
the
system
when
the
system
is
deficient
and
efficiency
at
the
current
level
of
service.
L
Well,
let's
look
at
this
if
the
average
bus
route
is
on-time,
60
percent
of
the
time,
how
can
the
public
depend
on
it?
What
that
means
is
that
a
person
who
needs
to
get
to
work
or
to
a
medical
appointment
or
whatever
will
only
arrive
at
the
necessary
time,
60
percent
of
the
time,
so
40
percent
of
the
time
it's
a
failure,
for
example,
a
person
who
has
five
days
a
week
job
and
rides
the
bus
three
days
a
week.
They
make
the
job
on
time.
L
L
You
would
not
accept
that
at
all.
You
would
probably
talk
to
them
at
first
then
write
them
up
one
or
two
times,
and
then
eventually
you
would
let
them
go
no
longer
an
employee
of
the
city
of
Asheville.
Unfortunately,
we
just
looked
at
employees
going
to
work.
The
sad
part
here
is
the
citizens
who
ride
the
bus
go
to
medical
appointments,
take
their
kids
places
and
so
on.
City
Council,
you
are
the
Transit
Authority.
You
were
in
control.
L
The
seven
of
you
need
to
pick
routes
to
ride
for
a
week,
no
exceptions,
you
go
to
work
and
do
your
activities
by
bus,
including
your
families.
By
doing
this,
you
will
gain
an
understanding
of
the
problems
in
your
system
if
you
have
to
replace
people
or
if
you
need
to
replace
the
transit
providers
or
if
you
need
to
go
to
older,
more
reliable
buses
to
do
so
that
don't
break
down.
Do
it.
Let's
get
this
straightened
out
water.
L
It's
our
opinion
that
water
line
infrastructure
is
another
critical
item
and
deserves
your
immediate
attention.
Just
this
year,
several
large
water
line
breaks
have
inconvenienced
and
jeopardized
many
Asheville
business
owners
and
homeowners.
For
instance,
in
February
and
March
there
were
was
a
large
water
break
on
Marin
Avenue.
That
crews
worked
on
for
over
a
week
due
to
the
age
of
the
transmission
lines.
L
Word
was
that
due
to
the
age
of
the
line,
replacement
parts
were
hard
to
come
by
then,
as
part
of
the
line
was
repaired
and
put
back
on
line,
another
break
would
occur
nearby.
There
was
also
a
large
break
on
the
main
transmission
lines
coming
out
of
the
treatment
plant
causing
dirty
water
throughout
the
system,
which
was
especially
harmful
to
the
tourist
based
industries
such
as
restaurants,
breweries
and
lodging.
Furthermore,
over
Father's
Day
weekend
there
was
a
large
break
in
South
Asheville.
L
It's
an
ongoing
theme
with
the
water
system
break,
we
pray
prayer
frame,
repair,
the
main
transmission
lines
are
a
ticking
time
bomb
and
ignoring
the
need
to
replace.
Many
of
them
is
no
longer
an
option.
The
time
is
over
for
the
out
of
sight.
Out
of
mind
mentality
as
a
city,
we
fought
diligently,
you
fought
diligently
to
keep
ownership
with
a
water
system
spending
millions
in
legal
fees.
It's
past
time
to
put
a
singular,
diligent
focus
on
the
system.
L
Rumors
abound
profound
about
water
lines
that
are
over
100
years
old,
with
even
wooden
lines
in
some
areas
and
places
where
we
don't
even
know
where
the
lines
are
located.
All
of
these
issues
plagued
the
system.
Asheville
has
a
plentiful
and
pristine
water
source,
but
the
trip,
but
the
transmission
of
the
water
to
your
citizens
is
woefully
lacking.
It's
time
for
you
to
focus
on
the
maintenance
of
this
important
infrastructure,
you
fought
hard
to
keep
it.
L
So
why
not
fight
just
as
hard
to
rehabilitate
it
refocus
a
significant
part
of
your
capital
budget
to
fix
it,
your
staff
is
knowledgeable
willing
and
up
to
the
task
if
you
only
give
them
resources
to
do
it
streets.
Last
year,
we
presented
statistics
from
your
own
Street
study,
which
laid
out
a
dire
condition
of
city
streets.
As
far
as
your
citizens
can
tell.
Nothing
has
changed.
L
Statistics
point
to
the
fact
that
the
asphalt
on
the
average
city
street
as
far
outlived
its
life
expectancy,
but
if
you
travel
city
streets,
you
don't
need
a
consultants
report
to
tell
you
that
the
pavement
on
city
streets
is
riddled
with
potholes
and
broken
areas,
but
rather
than
spend
additional
needed
resources
on
repaving
and
repairing
existing
streets,
you
are
choosing
to
spend
a
large
sum
of
city
resources,
1.25
million
dollars
to
put
your
citizens
on
a
road
diet.
Whatever
that
means
whether
you
like
it
or
not.
Your
citizens
and
visitors
need
a
viable
road
system.
L
L
Safety,
you
know
the
National
Crime
reporting
database
area,
Viacom
reports
that,
based
on
available
crime
statistics,
your
chance
of
being
a
victim
of
violent
crime
in
Asheville,
is
1
in
160,
for
your
chance
of
being
a
victim
of
property,
crime
in
Asheville
is
1
in
22,
and
your
chance
of
being
a
victim
of
any
crime
in
Asheville
is
1
in
19.
These
statistics
are
probably
not
much
different
from
any
other
large
city,
but
should
be
a
wake-up
call.
L
Asheville
needs
to
be
tough
on
crime
property
owners
in
Asheville
pay
their
taxes
deserve
and
expect
to
be
safe
by
the
way.
Congratulations
on
hiring
Chris
Bailey
as
your
new
police
chief,
not
on
duty,
yet
I,
don't
think
now
giving
your
support
and
the
resources
to
address
the
issues
that
cause
our
citizens
to
feel
safe.
That
feel
that
calls
our
citizens
to
feel
unsafe
councils
job
one
is
the
ability
to
get
emergency
services
to
citizens.
It
is
of
most
importance.
L
In
conclusion,
the
city
has
a
very
competent
and
astute
city
manager
in
Deborah
Campbell,
with
the
skills
to
manage
this
growing
city,
as
the
managing
board
of
the
city's
190
million
dollar
budget,
give
her
the
tools
to
set
the
city
on
a
path
of
restoration
and
repair.
We
urge
Council
to
take
advantage
of
the
unprecedented
growth
in
the
city
of
Asheville
and
focus
resources
on
core
infrastructure
needs.
Your
citizens
expect
and
deserve
no
less.
L
T
Good
evening,
council
members
I'm
really
here
just
to
ask
two
questions
of
you
all
and
the
first
is
we
had
a
non
official
council
meeting
on
the
subject
of
districting
and
I'm,
just
curious,
where
you
all
are
in
addressing
the
issues
that
were
brought
forth
at
that
meeting.
The
clock
is
ticking.
We
are
going
to
be
entering
primary
season
in
about
six
months.
There
are
potential
candidates
who
have
a
strong
interest
in
knowing
what
and
how
the
city's
elections
are
going
to
be
run.
T
For
those
of
us
who
are
concerned
that
perhaps
the
City
Council
will
not
take
action
in
a
timely
fashion,
there
may
be
citizens
who
would
like
to
get
together
a
petition
action.
So
we
would
all
be
quite
grateful
for
some
indication
from
you
whether
or
not
you
plan
to
take
the
option
of
revisiting
the
city
charter
to
reinstate
the
citywide
elections
or
whether
that's
something
that
you're
not
planning
to
do
so
that
the
rest
of
us
can
figure
out
how
we
want
to
move
forward.
T
I
hope
that
you
will
soon
provide
some
guidance
about
this,
because
it's
a
matter
that
directly
affects
the
entire
voting
population.
The
people
who
elected
you
and
the
people
who
might
choose
whether
or
not
to
reelect
you
second
question
revisits
the
discussion
that
we
had
around
the
flatiron
hotel
and
the
question
there
had
to
do
with
how
many
hotel
rooms
are
enough
or
too
many
for
asheville,
and
that
question
is
really
a
pointer
towards
the
larger
issue
of
addressing
how
tourism
affects
the
Asheville
economy.
T
There
was
a
discussion
about
creating
a
subcommittee
or
something
like
that
in
order
to
come
up
with
some
kind
of
comprehensive
plan
around
tourism,
I
think
it
would
be
very
helpful
for
the
community
at
large
and
for
people
doing
business
in
Asheville
and
working
in
Asheville
to
have
a
sense
for
what
city
council
on
city
government
sees
as
the
future
of
tourism.
It's
a
big
question.
W
Hello:
everyone,
my
name
is
Gabi
Romero
and
I'm,
an
intern
with
the
western
region
of
democracy,
North
Carolina.
We
are
a
nonpartisan
nonprofit
voting
rights
organization
and
as
an
organization,
we
echo
the
concern
of
the
another
citizen
on
wanting
an
update
on
the
potential
districting
of
Asheville,
specifically
on
whether
or
not
there
will
be,
you
will
be
pursuing
the
amending
the
Charter
or,
if
you
will
be
going
with
a
lawsuit
and
if
you're,
going
with
a
lawsuit.
What
type
of
lawsuit
will
you
be
used
up
pursuing?
W
In
addition
to
that,
we
are
also
looking
for
any
specific
timeline
for
this
process.
We
were
told
at
the
last
meeting
that
it
would
take
three
council
meetings
to
amend
the
Charter
and
saying
that
it
is
already
the
end
of
July.
We
find
that
extremely
concerning
that
we
have
not
heard
any
specific
timeline
yet.
In
addition,
we
are
also
wondering
if
anyone's
stances
have
solidified
or
changed
since
the
last
meeting,
especially
given
the
significant
support
the
people
of
Asheville
have
given
against
districts
and
the
districting
Asheville
as
a
whole.
W
We
support
action
on
fighting
against
trying
to
district
Asheville.
However,
we
would
prefer
legal
action,
given
the
implications
of
this
case
regionally,
if
you
do
try
to
pursue
amending
the
Charter
as
and
also
the
uncertainty
about,
the
effectiveness
of
amending
the
Charter
alone.
So
thank
you.
Thank.
A
H
Probably
gonna
use
overhead
good-evening
kind
of
last-minute
got
him
you're
a
little
late,
I
apologize,
I,
don't
know
if
the
entire
City
Council
is
aware
of.
What's
been
going
on
at
Whole
Foods
in
the
last
couple
weeks,
I
know
I
sent
it
to
I,
know
Julie
I'd
sent
you
copies,
I
think
I
sent
it
to
most
of
the
City
Council,
but
right
before
I
think
it
was
a
couple
days
before
just
delight.
First
actually,
I
think
and
I
went
outside
on
my
porch,
and
there
were.
H
H
If
I
can
kind
of
highlight
here
so
you'll
see
June
1st
2018
I
checked
on
the
Greece
after
returning
phone
did
not
see
any
signs
of
the
same
last
week.
However,
today
my
neighbor
alerted
me
to
Greece
running
out
of
the
sidewalk
I
went
over
there
to
continue
on.
He
quotes
some
other
prohibitions
for
nuisance
and
other
items.
There's
multiple
emails,
I
think
Julie.
You
got
a
hold
of
someone
because
then
someone
named
Ben
woody
was
involved
director
of
developmental
services.
H
They
had
Keisha
involved
back
then,
and
here's
the
funny
part
about
this,
as
they
said
that
there
were
violations.
There
were
violations
right,
but
nothing
was
ever
done
about
it.
Nothing,
zero,
zilch,
nothing!
So
this
time,
I
call
the
sewer
department,
I
call
the
Health
Department
I
called
the
environmental
EPA
I
called
everybody.
Finally,
I
find
out
yesterday
that
they
just
got
a
30-day
notice
to
comply
and
they
have
30
days
not
to
fix
it.
They
have
30
days
to
come
up
with
a
plan.
Then
I
asked
Keisha.
I
know
this.
Isn't
her
job
function?
H
It's
to
decide
whether
whatever
they're
gonna
do
to
fix?
This
is
going
to
be
a
permanent
fix,
but
my
problem
is
sorry
about
that.
But
my
problem
is
I.
Just
don't
have
a
lot
of
faith
that
this
is
going
to
be
dealt
with.
So
I
just
want
to
know
who
makes
a
final
decision
that
this
engineering
beng
plan
is
going
to
be
done
and
when
it's
gonna
be
done.
H
C
B
C
Keep
up
it's
not
the
time
to
not
be
courageous,
so
many
of
us
have
to
be
courageous.
We
have
to
work
hard.
We
have
to
make
motions
in
our
lives
to
get
things
done
and
we
opt
out
to
rely
on
seconds
so
we're
looking
for
people
to
be
aggressive
to
fight
for
answers
to
these
this
gerrymandering.
Thus,
these
primaries
that
have
been
put
out
and
these
imposed
even
your
elections,
we're
looking
for
folks
to
fight
and
not
just
on
that.
C
We're
looking
for
folks
to
fight
to
change,
city
policy,
around
approval
of
hotels
and
luxury
developments
so,
and
not
just
that
either
we
need.
We
need
a
inclusionary
zoning,
we
need
anti-discrimination
ordinances,
we
need
a
whole
list,
we
need
transit,
we
need
money
for
transit.
We
need
to
extend
those
service
hours
within
this
fiscal
year
and
we're
organizing.
L
C
M
M
You
know
I
like
to
find
like
middle
grounds
and
obviously
he's
on
something
so
like
40
hours
of
staff
is
a
duh,
and
you
know
definitely
I
hope
that
the
Planning
and
Zoning
people
on
Commission
can
make
the
space
the
time
to
have
a
special
meeting
on
the
topic.
I
personally
would
like
to
help
in
any
way,
because
housing
is
such
an
epidemic
in
our
in
our
community.
Thank
you
guys
for
your
leadership.
Keith
Shaniqua,
I'm
Julie
are.
M
M
And
then
also
with
transit,
I
mean
I
do
tend
to
agree
with
some
of
the
comments
that
the
business
people
have
to
say
because
it's
really
inefficient
I
think,
but
it's
just
kind
of
that
nature
of
public
transit
these
days.
So
there's
this
great
Netflix
documentary,
it's
called
liquid
Swartz
by
one
RZA
from
wu-tang
clan
and
he's
got
a
great
solution
for
having
you
know
kind
of
like
a
ski-lift
type
of
thing
and
can
be
public
or
private
like
you
can
own
a
cab
or
the
city
can
invest
in
them
and
there
it's.
M
M
I
think
that's
that's
pretty
much
all
that
I
was
thinking
about,
but
yeah
whatever
we
can
do
to
get
more
housing
and
healthy
housing.
Not
you
know,
I
really,
don't
like
fiberglass
I
can't
believe
we
call
it
green
building
in
this
community.
It's
kind
of
a
pet
peeve
of
mine,
but
anyway,
thanks
for
time.
Thank.
A
X
Hi,
my
name
is
Jonathan
Wainscott,
oh
I,
thank
you
guys
for
having
the
work
session
and
suspending
the
rules
to
allow
for
public
comment.
The
other
night
was
really
great
and
mr.
Branum
did
a
fantastic
job
breaking
down
the
situation.
For
us,
it
is
a
very
complicated
situation,
but
I
think
some
of
the
points
were
very
elementary
did
a
great
job
explaining
how
the
wake
in
Greensboro
case
is
really
not
at
all.
Like
the
Asheville
case
whatsoever.
I
think
you
mentioned
how
much
power
the
state
has.
We
are
a
mother,
mae-eye,
State,
Dillon's
rule.
X
If
they
even
mentioned
that
you
know
the
state
has
the
capacity
to
eliminate
cities
and
I.
Think
that
should
be
understood
that
that's
in
the
cards
I
mean
I.
Think
that
everybody's
concerned
with
what
Asheville
is
gonna
do
next
should
also
understand
what
the
North
Carolina
legislature,
who
doesn't
like
Asheville,
will
take
in
response
to
us.
I.
Don't
think
that
they're
gonna
find
it
to
be
clever
that
we've
changed
our
charter
back
to
an
at-large
system,
I,
don't
think
they're
going
to
respond
with
nice
job.
X
You
win
I,
think
that
you
know
they
may
want
to
make
sure
that
this
doesn't
happen
with
other
municipalities
just
circumventing
the
the
law
and
make
an
example
out
of
Asheville
the
way
you
know
we
don't
want
Reed
Thompson's
Airbnb,
to
set
an
example
for
all
other
people
can
scofflaw
we're
pretty
tough
on
him
about
things.
The
law
was
the
law.
You
know
the
North
Carolina
legislature
could
send
a
message
to
the
rest
of
municipalities.
By
suspending
their
ability
to
have
a
referendum,
we
could
be
the
most
hated
city
in
the
whole
state.
X
We
can
wreck
it
for
a
lot
of
municipalities.
We
could
cease
to
exist.
There
may
not
be
a
chain
reaction,
as
mr.
Branum
said
after
this,
because
I
think
that
maybe
the
North
Carolina
legislature
will
have
had
enough
of
this
nonsense
and
end
the
Charter
I
mean
they
could
they
could
remove
you
from
office
put
in
an
interim
Council
and
since
they
don't
like
you
very
much,
maybe
they'll
appoint
somebody
who's.
Just
you
know
thorn
in
your
side.
Could
you
imagine
such
a
things
again?
X
I
think
the
most
prudent
thing
to
do
is
to
amend
the
Charter
to
get
a
primary
I.
Think
that's
a
completely
reasonable
ask
districts
are
here
to
stay.
There
is
no
lawsuit,
there's
nothing
that
we
can
really
do
and
cooler
heads
need
to
prevail,
and
you
know
I
know
that
it's
not
a
popular
position,
but
the
will.
The
people
have
been
wrong
many
times
in
history,
Jim
Crow
laws
carried
the
day
by
a
majority
votes.
Plenty
of
systems
that
have
been
in
place
have
been
done
so
by
the
majority.
X
The
majority
has
been
used
to
suppress
minority
power
and
that's
exactly
what
at-large
systems
do
and
that's
why
they've
been
eliminated
by
and
large
by
the
efforts
of
the
civil
rights
movements.
You
know
the
n-double-a-cp
could
have
petitioned
the
n-double-a-cp
Legal
Defense
Fund
to
come
to
our
aid.
So
anyway,
thanks
again
for
everything.
Thank.
A
E
The
cost
of
the
construction
and
tiny
homes
are
a
great
way
to
do
that.
There
are
other
ways
to
do
that,
but
so
we're
going
to
be
having
that
conversation
at
that
work
session
on
September
6th.
Also,
at
our
last
HCD
meeting,
we
asked
the
affordable
housing
Advisory
Committee,
or
we
tasked
them
with
starting
to
look
at
additional
incentives
for
homeowners,
around
building
80
use
and
using
long
term
rentals
for
folks
with
housing
vouchers.
E
So
again
we're
just
trying
to
expand
the
pie
of
homes
that
can
be
used
for,
can
and
should
be
used
for,
affordable
housing.
So
we're
continuing
to
try
to
address
this
problem
in
in
new
and
creative
ways.
The
second
thing
I
want
to
address
is
the
is
the
issue
of
hotels.
So,
in
the
wake
of
the
flat
iron
vote,
you
know
I
think
several
people
up
here
said
again.
E
We
need
to
have
a
conversation
around
hotels
and
shortly
after
that,
I
proposed
to
Esther
that
we
just
put
a
hotel
moratorium
in
place,
or
we
explore
that
so
that
we
can
have
this
conversation
and
so
at
our
August
29th
PE
d
meetings,
we
will
be
getting
our
initial
briefing
on
a
hotel
moratorium.
What
that
process
will
be,
but
suffice
it
to
say
we
could
have
a
moratorium
in
place,
I
think
well
before
the
end
of
the
year.
E
In
order
to
give
us
the
breathing
room
that
we
need
to
have
the
conversation
around
guardrails
and
around
hotel
construction
in
the
city
that
we
have
been
talking
about
for
several
months
and
not
yet
done
anything
about,
so
some
people
will
love
that
some
people
will
hate
that.
But
that's
where
we're
headed
just
wanted
to
say
that.
D
D
The
law
that
makes
information
privileged
and
confidential
is
north
carolina
general
statute
143
through
318
10
e,
to
consult
with
an
attorney
employed
by
the
city
about
matters
with
respect
to
which
the
attorney-client
privilege
between
the
city
and
his
attorney
must
be
preserved,
including,
but
not
limited
to
the
administrative
procedure
and
the
potential
lawsuit
regarding
city
counsel,
alleged
election
districts.
The
statutory
authorization
is
contained
in
north
carolina
general
statute
143
through
8
318
11,
a
3
as
well
as
a
potential
lawsuit
involving
other
parties,
have.