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From YouTube: Formal meeting 2-26-13
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Asheville City Council meeting 2-26-13
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Eric
larson's
in
the
garden
of
the
beasts
offers
a
close-up
examination
of
one
year
in
pre-war
germany.
1933
was
the
year
when
adolf
hitler
was
consolidating
his
power.
His
government
began
murdering
the
mentally
ill,
the
physically
weak,
the
gypsies
and
the
jews.
He
made
the
claim
the
germans
had
a
right
to
lebensram
living
space
or
living
room.
His
argument
was
that
people
of
a
superior
race
had
an
absolute
right
to
displace
people
of
inferior
races
in
1933.
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There
are
reasonable
people
who
support
the
current
dictator,
seeing
the
relative
freedom
they
now
enjoy
for
women
to
get
an
education
and
dress,
as
they
please,
to
listen
to
music
to
worship,
as
they
will
is
far
preferable
to
the
rebel
forces
which
want
to
throw
off
the
yoke
of
dictatorship
and
impose
sharia
law
in
afghanistan.
Our
war
of
vengeance
and
purported
liberation
is
winding
down
in
what
appears
to
be
reversion
to
the
pre-war
normal
of
central
asia
in
china.
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American
manufacturers
may
or
may
not
be
improving
the
lives
of
millions
of
factory
workers,
though
the
benefit
of
employment
is
on
the
one
side
or
the
extortion
of
slave
labor.
On
the
other
here
at
home,
while
tens
of
thousands
express
fear
of
a
non-existent
plot
to
take
their
guns,
a
far
more
real
threat
is
largely
ignored.
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64
of
low-wage
workers
experience
wage
theft
on
a
regular
basis
that
is
they're
cheated
of
their
rightful
wages.
At
the
end
of
the
week,
an
average
of
51
is
stolen
by
employers
from
each
low-wage
worker
each
week
in
america
and
yet
so
disempowered
to
those
people
so
fearful
of
losing
the
one
bad
job
they
have
that
we
hear
nothing.
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Meanwhile,
the
state
of
north
carolina
has
cut
funding
for
wage
and
our
enforcement.
The
decisions
we
make
here
in
this
room
have
neither
the
weight
nor
the
reach
of
facing
down
hitler.
They
don't
require
the
courage
of
facing
down
a
tiger,
but
they
have
real
life
consequences,
whether
it's
balancing
the
rights
of
a
landowner
against
the
needs
of
the
whole
community,
the
cost
of
a
street
vacuum
versus
the
cost
of
a
fire
truck
the
transportation
needs
of
the
working
class
versus
the
aesthetic
preferences
of
the
rich
as
we
deliberate
tonight.
A
Thank
you.
The
first
order
of
business
that's
listed
is
our
proclamations
and
tonight
we're
going
to
recognize
the
asheville
high
school
sylsa
marching
band
and
they
represented
north
carolina
at
president
obama's
inauguration
and
they
were
named
the
grand
champion
of
the
inaugural
festival,
and
so
I
want
to
recognize
the
principal
carol
ray
who
will
come
up
first
and
would
like
all
band
members
to
come
up
as
well.
B
E
E
No
pun
intended
for
our
band
and
those
are
the
directors,
mr
will
talley
and
mr
myron
massey,
and
if
I
could
allow
them
just
to
come
and
just
say
a
couple
of
words,
because
that
is
really
with
the
directors
and
then
these
marvelous
students
who
are
representing
our
105
member,
marching
band.
That
is
really
where
all
of
the
focus
should
be
tonight.
F
F
G
Good
afternoon
everybody,
my
name
is
myron
massey,
I'm
the
assistant
band
director
at
asheville,
high
school,
and
since
I'm
not
a
native
to
asheville.
I
really
didn't
know
what
I
was
getting
into
when
I
came
two
years
ago,
but
I
can
say
honestly
that
I've
loved
every
minute
of
it,
even
though
it
may
not
have
seemed
like
it.
G
These
kids
continue
to
amaze
me
on
a
daily
basis
about
how
intelligent
they
are,
the
care
that
they
have
about
what
they
do
and
their
level
of
commitment,
and
not
only
the
students,
as
that's
our
primary
priority,
but
the
parents,
the
faculty,
the
administration,
really
everyone
has
done
such
a
fantastic
job
in
making
this
a
reality,
and
I
feel,
like
these
students
represented
north
carolina
very
well
when
we
went
to
the
inauguration
this
past
january.
So
for
that
I
say
thank
you.
I
J
O
A
I
wanted
you
all
to
see
the
people
giving
you
all
the
standard
ovation
I
just
wanted
to
say
when
I
was
standing
out
there,
nicole
waving
calling
names,
it
was
exciting
to
see
that
you
were
truly
doing
a
wonderful
job
representing
not
only
asheville
but
all
of
north
carolina.
There
was
not
another
band
to
represent
our
state.
It
was
you
all.
So
congratulations
and
we're
extremely
proud
of
you
and
we
look
forward
to
seeing
the
other
things
that
you
all
do
again
principal
ray.
Thank
you
so
very
much
and
mr
massey
and
tally.
A
Thank
you
so
very
much
for
coming
in
to
all
our
parents.
Thank
you
so
very
much
for
all
that
you've
done
to
support
our
children
and
we
do
invite
you
all
to
stay
the
rest
of
the
meeting.
But
if
you
don't
want
to,
you
definitely
can
leave.
We
don't
want
you
to
have
to
stay,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
you
get
your
homework
done
for
tomorrow.
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B
V
V
It
seemed
that
shifting
that
meeting
to
april
3rd
would
work
best
for
the
rest
of
the
council,
and
I
realized
you
were
not
in
the
building
at
the
time,
and
so
there
may
be
some
further
calendar
coordination
on
this
and
another
item.
But
I
would
amend
the
recommendation
on
the
agenda
to
include
an
april
3rd
budget
work
session
and
further
there's
been
a
recent
discussion
regarding
the
need
for
strategic
planning
retreat
this
year.
That's
something
that
we
do
routinely
and
schedule.
Pressures
and
timing
have
made
it
difficult.
V
The
the
item
on
the
agenda
be
a
a
change
to
reflect
both
the
april
3rd
work
session
for
the
budget
and
a
march
11th
session
for
strategic
planning
by
council
and
further
the
the
staff
guidance
today
relating
strategic
planning
elements
to
the
budget.
I
think,
is
very
relevant
and
given
the
short
time
frame,
I
think
that
staff
helping
us
by
leading
and
programming
that
strategic
council
session
strategic
planning
session
would
be
helpful.
So
that
would
be
included
in
my
suggested
motion.
A
U
Further
on
the
on
consent,
agenda
item
e
there's
part
two
here
is
about
cancelling
community
meetings
on
july
30th
and
october
29th,
and
it's
something
that
I'm
open
to
discussion
on.
I
just
hadn't
been
able
to
understand
why
we
were
cancelling
those
community
meetings.
These
have
been
generally
very
successful
and
there's
something
that,
if
it's,
the
will
of
council
I'd
like
to
to
see
us
be
able
to
continue
with
this
year.
V
D
Y
And
I
would
I
would
speak
to
that
in
that
I
know
it's
good
to
do
community
meetings,
but
that's
a
time
that
staff
has
come
off
of
the
budget
part.
A
lot
of
people
are
finishing
up
vacations
and
that
sort
of
thing.
So
I
understand
why
we
in
the
past
have
not
had
meetings
then
and
to
do
a
community
meeting
on
top
not
having
a
meeting
on
the
second
tuesday
seems
job.
Y
And
I'm
not
sure
how
well
they
attended
that
time
of
the
year
too.
So
you
know,
I
think,
there's
an
expense
that
goes
with
it,
there's
an
opportunity
for
staff
to
get
some
time.
I
I
would
I
would
be.
I
would
be
in
favor
of
restoring
the
october
one,
but
I
I
think
we
should
really
think
hard
about
that
july.
One
so.
U
And
and-
and
that's
that's
in
thinking
back
to
those
summer
meetings-
those
are
the
ones
that
are
the
the
probably
the
least
well
attended,
with
the
exception
of
the
hawk
creek
meeting,
where
there
was
a
very
kind
of
outstanding
issue
at
the
time
that
that
had
come
forward
so
that
that
would
make
sense
if
we're
gonna.
I
know
that
one
of
our
community
meetings,
we
had
more
staff
there
than
we
had
attendees
and
that's
certainly
not
gonna,
be
the
best
use
of
of
our
staff
time
and
resources.
U
Z
Mayor,
I,
I
guess,
I'm
of
the
opinion
that
the
community
meetings
serve
a
valuable
function
and
if
we
skip
the
summer
one
then
we're
looking
at
six
months
between
those
community
meetings.
I
think
we
all
agree
that
the
meeting
in
west
asheville
last
last
month
was
earlier.
This
month
was
a
big
success
and
that,
as
as
councilman
smith
reminded
us,
the
summer
community
meeting
in
2010
attracted
over
300
people
in
east
asheville.
So
I
don't
think
it's
a
matter
of
that.
Z
B
K
A
Correct
a
couple
of
things
you
said:
councilman
hunt.
First,
I
was
in
the
building
during
the
meeting,
but
I
was
in
another
meeting.
So
that's!
Okay,
just
for
clarification
and
second,
we
did
have
a
retreat
planned
and
councilman
smith
worked
to
get
it
canceled
and
we
would
have
talked
about
partnerships.
We
were
talking
about
strategic
priorities
and
relationships
with
other
elected
officials,
but
it
was
canceled
earlier
this
year.
A
So
I'm
happy
to
see
that
we
have
a
change
in
the
mood
to
have
a
strategic
plan
retreat
because
it
would
have
given
staff
a
whole
lot
more
time
to
get
to
where
we
are,
I
think,
is
a
push
for
staff
that
we're
going
to
have
a
retreat
on
the
11th
and
then
have
our
first
work
session
on
the
12th,
and
so
that's
a
little
disappointing.
I
wish
that
we
could
have
gone
forward
with
the
retreat
that
we
had
planned.
We
had
to
help.
A
We
had
to
pay
a
facilitator
and
for
work
not
able
to
be
rendered,
and
so
that's
just
disappointing
to
waste
taxpayer
dollars
when
we
could
have
done
this
months
ago
or
at
least
a
little
over
a
month
ago,
and
so
I'm
happy
that
we've
gotten
to
this
place
of
recognizing
that
we
need
to
have
a
strategic
and
retreating
our
hope.
I
saw
a
draft
agenda,
I'm
not
sure
the
retreat
agenda
was
created.
A
For
example,
I
know
that
congressman
meadows
has
already
reached
out
to
me
to
say
that
he
wants
to
help
us
on
the
rat
tip
and
so
that's
something
he
sees
as
a
priority
and
so
talking
about
those
relationships
I
think,
are
critical,
and
so
as
whoever
set
the
agenda
for
the
retreat.
I
hope
that
we
would
talk
about
that
a
little
bit
and
put
some
time
into
thinking
about
those
relationships
that
we
have
and
how
they
can
be
fostered
even
more
to
ensure
that
we're
really
forging
ahead.
A
D
A
V
A
It's
not
typical,
but
we'll
try
to
put
in
that
framework.
I'm
not
seen
a
retreat
be
planned
at
another
committee
meeting
without
an
involvement
of
the
mayor,
but
that's
a
first
time
for
everything.
It's
a
new
day.
I
guess
so.
We
do
have
a
motion
with
a
revised
agenda
for
april
the
3rd
you
said
april.
The
third.
A
Q
U
W
A
AA
AA
AA
AA
You
have
here
on
the
overhead
the
vision
and
mission
that
was
created
over
the
past
few
months
for
those
of
you
in
the
audience.
There
also
is
an
action
plan
that
goes
with
this,
but
it
is
not
couldn't
fit
all
on
this
one
screen,
so
I
didn't
put
it
there,
but
this
the
council
members
have
that
I've
got
a
couple
of
comments
just
in
regard
to
the
missions
number
one
and
number
two,
the
key
phrase
in
mission:
one
is
this
citizen
led
improvements,
initiatives
based
on
needs
identified
by
the
residents
in
each
neighborhood
mission.
AA
One
is
one
we
worked
hard
on
and
it
responds
to
directly
to
something
in
the
asheville
strategic
operating
plan
and
fiscal
responsibility
goal
2,
which
says
to
explore
alternatives
for
enhancing
the
city's
infrastructure
maintenance.
We
are
looking
at
getting
a
lot
of
volunteer
work
done
and
helping
to
coordinate
that
in
the
neighborhoods.
So
this
is
certainly
a
very
efficient
and
economical
way
to
help
accomplish
that
goal,
and
no
one
knows
the
needs
of
the
neighborhoods
better
than
the
neighbors
in
the
neighborhood
themselves.
AA
All
through
the
time
that
we
were
putting
this
together.
A
couple
of
our
committee
members
were
adamant
and
kept
reminding
us
of
the
importance
of
our
listening,
especially
during
the
first
year.
So
I
hope
that
you
will
see
throughout
the
vision,
mission
and
action
plan
the
influence
of
that
one
specific
idea
I
want
to-
or
one
specific
portion
of
the
action
plan
I
want
to
highlight
in
that
regard
is
our
decision
to
advocate
that
we
include
monthly
meetings
in
each
of
the
five
geographic
districts
that
have
been
set
up.
AA
We
want
to
go
out
to
the
neighborhoods,
so
we
can
hear
what
the
neighborhoods
have
to
say
regarding
the
working
relationships
among
the
neighborhoods
and
the
city
of
asheville,
asheville,
strategic
operating
plan,
job
growth
and
the
community
development
goal.
1
addresses
the
importance
of
working
partnerships
between
the
city
of
asheville
and
other
key
organizations.
AA
We
recommend
that,
as
vacancies
occur,
that
a
resident
of
public
housing
be
appointed
to
the
neighborhood
advisory
committee
to
ensure
that
our
vision
for
asheville's
neighborhoods
truly
extends
throughout
our
city
and
in
our
vision
you
notice
that
war.
Those
words
are
there
throughout
the
city
of
asheville.
That
again
is
a
theme
that
is
important
to
us
as
we
proceed,
but
there
are
some
other
ways
that
an
effective
neighborhood
advisory
committee
will
advance
asheville
strategic
operating
plan.
AA
AA
Fiscal
responsibility
goal
number
two
calls
for
alternatives
for
enhancing
the
city's
commitment
to
infrastructure
maintenance,
neighborhood
cleanups
days
and
other
volunteer
activities
will
be
benefit.
The
quality
of
our
infrastructure
at
a
very
low
cost,
green
and
sustainable
objectives.
Four
of
the
strategic
operating
plan
advocates
leasing,
city-owned
parcels
to
gardeners.
AA
So
if
the
neighborhood
advisory
committee
can
help
that
good
idea
to
spread
throughout
the
city
and
not
just
that
one,
there
are
lots
of
great
things
going
on
being
done
by
neighborhood
associations
and
if
we
can
help
to
let
those
good
ideas
disseminate
and
help
help
commit
organizations
in
neighborhoods
that
haven't
done
that
before
to
do
to
do
that,
help
them
get
started.
That
will
be,
I
hope,
a
tremendous
benefit
to
the
city.
AA
AA
Madam
mayor
and
council
members,
what's
more
local
in
asheville
than
our
neighborhoods,
the
neighborhood
advisory
committee
looks
forward
to
promoting
friendly
valued
and
resilient
neighborhoods
throughout
the
city
of
asheville.
I
look
forward
to
hearing
your
comments,
suggestions
and
questions.
Thank
you.
D
Do
we
the
this,
was
a
very
nice
presentation
and
I'm
wondering
if
it
requires
any
council
action
pursuant
to
the
creation
of
the
neighborhood
advisory
committee.
I
know
you
all
were
to
bring
back
this
report
for
lack
of
a
better
term,
but
if
we
need
to
go
through
the
process
of
sort
of
formally
adopting
it.
AA
We
would
like
you
to
do
that
and,
of
course,
if
you
have
any
questions
about
particulars,
this
is
a
good
time
to
talk
about
that.
But
we
do
think
that
that
your
endorsement,
your
official
endorsement,
the
your
vote,
will
to
some
extent
legitimized
and
will
give
a
boost
to
the
neighborhood
advisory
committee
as
we
get
going,
we
haven't
deliberately
haven't
done,
tried
to
do
too
much
in
regard
to
community
outreach.
Yet
we
wanted
you
to
make
sure
we
were
doing
this
in
a
way
that
you
had
envisioned,
because
we
are
an
advisory
committee.
AB
We
could
do
that
or
an
appropriate
thing
to
do
at
this
time
might
be
to
receive
the
report
unless
there's
further
work
that
you
want
to
direct
the
the
neighborhood
that
the
the
the
neighborhood
advisory
committee
to
do.
We
could
receive
the
report
and
then
we
could
process
the
the
recommendations
and
see
what
kind
of
I.
A
Do
have
one
item
I
think
it's
important.
I
think
part
of
the
issue
that
we've
dealt
with
here
recently
on
the
mariman
avenue
corridor
was
the
neighborhoods
not
being
as
informed
about
existing
plans
and
corridor
plans
that
we
have
in
place.
The
city
of
asheville
has
adopted
over
the
last
few
years
about
16
plans
master
plans
from
the
downtown
greenways
pedestrians.
A
I
think
we
need
help
kind
of
getting
the
word
out
about
what's
in
the
plans
and
so
maybe
championing
three
to
four
plans
and
talking
about
how
they
impact
different
neighborhoods,
so
people
will
know
what's
happening
and
what
to
expect
from
the
city
would
be
great,
and
I
think
I
think
that
would
be
hard
for
staff
to
spend
time
going
to
each
neighborhood
to
talk
about
you
know:
have
you
looked
at
the
greenway
plan
and
how
it
impacts
your
community
or
the
pedestrian
plan?
And
I
want
you
all
to
consider
helping
us
spread
the
word.
A
So
there
can
be
more
information
even
with
the
downtown
master
plan.
It's
really
form-based
codes
putting
in
into
action,
and
I
don't
think
a
lot
of
people
understand
what
that
means,
and
I
think
I
know
ms
milton
helped
create
many
of
the
plans
that
I'm
talking
about
to
be
honest
and
so
just
spending
time,
choosing
three
to
four
plans
to
kind
of
get
that
information
out
to
our
citizenry
and
as
you're,
going
out
especially
number
three
to
strengthen
neighborhood
association
and
organizations
to
support
the
formation
of
new
ones.
A
AA
Certainly,
I
think
that
can
be
done
in
general.
I
certainly
see
our
role
and
I
think
the
rest
of
the
committee
agrees
that
we
are
a
liaison
between
the
city
of
asheville
and
neighbors.
Yes,
both
going
in
both
directions
and
if
we
can
help
facilitate
that
communication.
There's
a
lot
of
communication
in
this
city
and
people
like
to
talk.
W
AA
V
Just
like
to
say
I
I
look
forward
to
voting
in
support
of
a
resolution
that
endorses,
but
I
want
to
thank
you
guys
for
really
taking
the
whole
community
view
and
so
much
of
what
you've
done.
It's
it's
clear
that
neighborhoods
are
part
of
the
larger
community
and
and
this
effort
is
about
both
neighborhoods
and
the
larger
community,
and
I
appreciate
that
because
there
are
community
goals
that
are
very
important,
that
we
really
need
neighborhoods
there.
For
so
thanks.
AA
Z
Z
You
know
the
four
percent
annual
carbon
reduction,
the
replacement
of
led
street
lights
with
led
street
lights,
and
so
my
hope
for
the
the
my
hope
on
council
is
that
that
we
give
the
neighborhood
advisory
committee
a
chance
to
kind
of
get
to
develop
its
goals
and
refine
its
goals,
because
I
believe
over
time
that
it
will
serve
an
equally
beneficial
function
for
our
city
here.
So
thank
you
saul.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
P
Greetings:
asheville
city,
council
and
mayor
bellamy.
My
name
is
brenda
sears.
For
the
more
than
10
years,
I've
been
employed
as
the
supervisor
of
animal
services
for
the
city
of
asheville,
I'm
among
three
city
staff
and
two
asheville
residents
serving
on
the
noise
board,
as
well
as
one
city
staff
and
one
resident
serving
as
alternates
city
attorney.
Kelly
whitlock
serves
as
advisor
to
the
board.
P
P
In
one
case,
the
noise
board
voted
in
favor
of
a
continuance.
The
complainant
satisfied
that
the
defendant
was
satisfied
with
the
defendant's
remedy
and
later
withdrew
the
complaint
prior
to
the
next
or
the
new
hearing
date
in
2013.
The
members
of
the
noise
board
are
newly
appointed
and
eager
to
serve
whether
hearing
citation
appeals
or
weighing
the
evidence
of
complaints
brought
by
citizens.
P
P
U
P
Y
D
I
AC
Well,
I
hope
you
could
hear
me
from
from
here
I'm
luther
smith-
and
I
moved
here
from
olympia
washington
in
october
of
last
year,
and
I've
sought
to
continue
my
disability
advocacy
in
the
best
way.
I
could,
and
karen
was
good
to
give
me
an
opportunity
with
her
committee,
I'm
glad
to
see
that
you
all
have
a
mayor's
committee
on
disability
issues.
I
What
I'd
like
to
do
also
is
in
your
pocket,
there's
several
opportunities
to
become
involved
with
the
disability
community
at
large
we've
got
several
opportunities
coming
up.
One
is
march
the
19th,
which
will
be
held
at
marco's
pizza
on
hendersonville
road.
This
is
to
benefit
the
ark
which
works
with
folks
with
intellectual
developmental
disabilities.
To
help
these
folks
be
able
to
attend
camp
15
of
the
proceeds
of
anything
that
you
purchased
during
the
day
will
go
to
the
ark,
and
I
would
encourage
you
to
to
attend
that
event.
I
I
A
I
do
want
to
point
out
that
karen
has
volunteered
for
years
on
this
committee
across
the
country.
Mayors
across
the
country
all
have
committees
for
people
with
disabilities
and
the
goal
is
to
raise
awareness
about
people
with
disabilities
in
the
community
and
oftentimes.
It's
one
of
those
things
that
people
just
overlook
people
with
disabilities,
and
so
we
have
people
with
mental
illness,
intellectual
developmental
disabilities,
brain
injuries,
just
you
name
the
spectrum
and
everyone's
representing
our
community,
and
so
it's
so
many
it's
so
great
to
have
so
many
organizations
represented
at
the
table.
A
It's
important
to
do
that,
and
so
that's
one
thing:
that's
lacking
to
support
this
initiative
in
the
past,
we've
had
support
of
the
mayor's
office,
but
that
hasn't
happened
in
a
little
while,
but
we
definitely
need
staff
support
to
kind
of
keep.
This
committee
going
the
volunteers
work
together
to
bring
different
tools
to
the
table.
A
A
Y
The
committee
itself,
and-
and
I
also
would
like
to
echo
that
karen's
one
of
the
most
consistent
parts
of
our
agenda
every
year
she
comes
and
and
and
talks
and
is
a
great
advocate,
but
I
was
not
aware
that
we
did
not
have
real
staff
support
to
get
those
minutes,
and
so
I
think
that
might
be
something
we
might
talk
about
at
the
upcoming
retreat.
I
was
not
aware
of
that,
but
appreciate
the
good
well.
I
I
do
want
to
say
thank
you
to
marsha,
who
has
been
very
helpful
in
in
helping
what
I
need
and
helping
to
set
up
different
appointments.
So
we
do
have
that.
We've
had
a
change
in
in
the
committee,
it's
kind
of
a
influx
committee
where
we're
people
kind
of
come
and
go
based
on
on
what's
going
on
with
their
life
and
because
it
is
all
volunteered,
you
know
people
have
different
things
going,
but
I,
but
I
believe
strongly
in
this
committee.
I
I
believe
that
this
is
something
that
we
cannot
let
go
aside,
and
I
think
you
know
hearing
about
the
neighborhood
advisory
committee
would
love
to
see
us
work
together
with
them.
How
can
we
make
stronger
communities
and
more
inclusive
and
and
make
sure
that
everybody
has
what
they
need
to
enjoy
life?
Because
that's
what
it's
all
about?.
U
U
Thanks
so
much
for
being
here
and
updating
on
this
and
thanks
mayor
bellamy,
you've
been
a
great
advocate
for
folks
with
disabilities
across
the
community
for
years,
and
something
that
you
were
talking
about
during
your
update
is
something
that
I'd
like
to
see
come
up
at.
Our
retreat
is
around
broadening
those
communication
efforts
to
make
sure
that
these
meetings
are
accessible
to
all
the
members
of
our
community.
And
so
I
just
like
to
echo
that.
U
Y
A
So
very
much
council
next
update
is
from
water
resources.
This
is
a
sad
one.
Coming
up,
I
tell
you.
This
is
phil's
last
one
he
leaves
officially
on
friday.
Phil
has
accepted
a
position
with
estates
park,
colorado
and
so
he's
going
to
work
in
the
planning
department
there
and
make
that
community
better
and
stronger,
using
that
mpa.
He
received
from
appalachian
state,
and
so
we're
excited
about
that,
and
we
wish
you
well,
but
it's
unfortunately,
you
you're
leaving
our
community.
O
It's
certainly
bittersweet,
and
I've
enjoyed
my
time
here
and
I
I
appreciate
everything
council
has
done.
My
presentation
will
be
brief
tonight.
I
know
you
have
a
number
of
presentations
to
get
through
tonight.
It
will
begin
at
with
the
ongoing
good
faith
negotiations
with
msd,
specifically
to
their
board
meeting
last
wednesday,
the
20th
city
council.
As
background
city
council,
did
receive
a
proposal
from
msd
in
december
in
december,
relating
to
a
water
sewer
merger.
O
O
O
To
this
point,
the
city,
the
city's
counter
proposal
and
the
related
staff
actions
have
centered
on
council's
desire
to
achieve
cost
savings
for
all
stakeholders
through
shared
services
of
regional
utility
providers
towards
the
end
of
the
meeting.
The
only
other
action
that
was
taken
at
that
time
was
to
schedule
the
march
20th
meeting
for
them
to
receive
the
msd
board
to
receive
their
final
financial
impact
report,
and
so
that
looks
at
the
biltmore
forest
weaverville
and
montreal
towns.
O
To
summarize
information
sharing,
nothing
has
been
requested
from
the
city.
In
the
last
two
weeks,
the
city
of
asheville
has
requested
of
buncombe
county,
some
just
some
slides
that
they
used
during
their
board
meeting,
which
we
received
today
relating
to
the
the
regis
resolutions
passed
throughout
the
state.
The
north
carolina
league
and
municipalities
requested
that
their
member
cities
consider
adopting
a
resolution
opposing
legislation
that
provides
for
the
force
taking
of
a
municipal
water
system,
which
shows
all
of
them.
O
O
D
B
A
A
L
L
It
also
would
eliminate
all
etjs
in
north
carolina
cities
across
the
state
continue
to
watch
this
with
a
lot
of
interest
related
is
a
property
tax,
deannexation
senate
bill
97,
requiring
release
of
refund
of
property
taxes
in
any
area
that
was
part
of
a
municipality
for
six
months
or
less.
This
is
in
the
wilmington
area
and
is
specific
to
an
annexation
that
occurred
there
last
year.
We're
continuing
to
watch
this
to
see
how
it
would
affect
us
if
this
passes
on
a
statewide
basis,
charlotte
regional
airport
authority
house,
bill
104
senate
bill.
L
81
marion
council
is
very
familiar
with
this
and
the
details
of
it,
but
basically
it
would
transfer
the
airport
ownership
to
an
independent
authority,
an
11
member
authority
appointed
by
the
the
folks
there
and
with
no
members
holding
political
office.
So
we'll
continue
to
monitor
that
and
again
getting
a
lot
of
statewide
attention.
L
Building
inspections,
local
consistency-
this
is
a
new
one.
Since
the
last
time
I
was
here
house
bill
120.
This
would
require
the
north
carolina
building
code
council
to
approve
or
deny
any
additional
inspections
other
than
those
mandated
through
through
the
law.
We
do
have
a
lot
of
intermediate
inspections
in
our
in
our
building
building
department,
building
code
services,
department
and
in
talking
with
staff.
We
believe
that
this
would
be.
L
Oh,
I
did
and
I
apologize
thank
you
senate
bill
85
ordinance.
First
reading
it
requires
councils
to
wait
seven
days
after
public
hearings
to
vote
to
vote
on
the
matter
and
I
apologize
and
bob.
I
can't
remember
if
you
and
I've
talked
about
that,
I
thought
we
did.
Would
you
like
to
say
something
about
that?
We.
AB
Haven't
talked
about,
but
I'm
familiar
with
the
bill,
and
that
is
is
it.
It
does
a
couple
things
in
addition
to
what
mr
richardson
describes,
where
you
hold
a
public
hearing,
but
don't
vote
on
the
same
age.
Have
the
public
hearing.
You
have
to
wait
at
least
seven
days,
some
cities
do
that
anyhow.
So
that's
that's!
Not
that's!
Not
a
big,
not
not
a
big
deal,
the
the
other
change
that
would
make.
AB
B
L
L
So
I
would
circle
back
to
council
on
this
at
a
later
date,
and
and
would
look
for
council
if
it's
appropriate,
for
support
of
this
through
our
law
through
our
lawmakers
in
raleigh
operation
of
mopeds.
I
talked
about
this
last
time.
This
is
a
north
carolina
league
of
municipalities
supported
a
house
bill
and
it
would
require
moped
operators
to
have
valid
north
carolina
license
insurance
and
registration.
L
A
number
of
cities
in
north
carolina
have
had
issues
with
mopeds
through
the
their
respective
police
departments,
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
interest
here
talked
about
this
last
time
house
bill
30
a
repeal
of
a
combined
motor
motor
vehicle
registration
and
tax
system.
This
is
a
six-year
system.
That's
been
in,
that's
been
in
progress
to
be
set
up
and
brought
online
this
this
summer,
which
would
allow
counties
to
collect
more
efficiently
a
property
tax
collection
system
and
there's
a
bill
that
would
stop
the
implementation
of
that.
L
J
We're
currently
assessing
what
that
financial
impact
would
be.
We
do,
you
know,
charge
fees
for
those
types
of
inspections
and
expect
there
would
be
some
revenue
loss
associated
with
the
dissolution
of
the
etj.
We
should
have
a
number
here
in
just
the
next
week,
but
I
don't
know
specifically
what
it
is
tonight.
B
V
Mr
rose
did
research
and
reported
back
to
us
this
week,
and
actually
a
recommendation
emerged
out
of
today's
ped
meeting
that
perhaps
four
nods
could
be
gained
for,
but
to
to
back
up
a
little
bit.
There
was
indeed
a
legit
specific
legislation
introduced
two
years
ago
to
eliminate
the
eta
for
asheville
correct.
It
failed.
V
There's
the
constitution
constitutional
amendment
provision,
that's
been
introduced
this
year,
so
it
it
seems
clear
that
there's
keen
interest
in
the
legislature
for
this
the
I
know
that
some
members
of
council
have
had
discussions
with
individual
members
of
the
county
commission
about
the
way
this
might
play
out
and
there's
a
strong
sense.
I
think
among
several
folks
who
have
discussed
it
that
it
it
might
be
best
to
have
a
local
government
discussion
between
the
county
and
the
city
about
the
various
pros
and
cons
that
might
come
with
elimination
of
the
epj.
V
Perhaps
the
city
and
the
county
should
consider
working
together
toward
looking
at
reducing
or
eliminating
the
etj
on
terms
that
are
acceptable,
and
it
I
think
it's
important
to
reflect
for
folks
that
are
not
real
familiar
with
what
what's
up
with
etj's.
The
extra
territorial
jurisdiction
is
authority
that
municipalities
in
north
carolina
have
had
for
several
decades.
It
started
decades
ago,
at
a
time
when
most
counties
did
not
have
zoning
ordinances
and
also
at
a
time
when
annexation
was
a
norm
for
municipalities.
V
V
I
know
the
city
is
and
should
be
interested
in
the
development
pattern
on
our
borders
that
is
outside
of
the
city.
That
is
a
key
reason
as
well
for
etjs.
Originally,
we
know
that
the
county
is
concerned
about
growth
and
development
patterns
and,
if
there's
to
be
a
transition,
have
it
having
it
happen
in
a
locally
directed
way.
A
local
government
directed
way
in
an
orderly
way
would
seem
to
make
sense.
V
A
Okay,
I
will
come
back
to
that
point,
but
this
is
house
book
79,
that's
not
local
to
the
city
of
asheville.
This
would
be
all
of
north
carolina.
So
while
we
would
have
those
discussions,
this
would
supersede
that
just
so
you
know,
if
I'm
understanding
what
I'm
seeing
so
that
would
be
great.
I
know
one
of
the
things
that
we
will
lose
one
member
of
the
planning
zoning
commission
who's
appointed
by
the
county
to
pnz.
A
So
would
that
mean
we
would
feel
that
and
what
would
be
the
impact?
Do
you
see?
This
would
be
a
great
question
for
judy
daniels.
I
guess
on
future
development
around
our
city
corridor,
because
I
think
that's
why
we
originally
went
into
making
sure
we
were
extending
permitting
and
inspections
in
our
etj.
M
M
As
the
councilman
pointed
out,
this
is
a
framework
for
relationship
and
it
hasn't
been
looked
at
by
the
city
and
the
county
leadership
in
quite
some
time,
so
it
it
does
need
to
be
looked
at
a
local
level
in
terms
of
of
a
local
bill.
It
would
be
better
if
we
engaged
in
those
conversations
with
our
partners
at
the
county,
and
so
for
that
reason,
and
because
we've
had
your
council
appointed
committee,
asked
questions
about
it.
Already.
M
A
D
V
And
one
more
point
of
clarification:
I
was
on
a
briefing
call
last
week
with
the
north
carolina
league
of
municipalities
and
in
the
view
that
the
league
leadership
holds
it,
is
that
this
particular
bill
might
not
have
enough
traction
to
become
law,
and
so
the
discussion
of
both
annexation
and
etj
will
evolve
into
something
else
and
consistent
with
what
the
vice
mayor
said.
Being
a
little
ahead
of
that
curve
seems
to
make
sense
and
that
that's
the
reason
for
my
suggestion.
AB
And
as
far
as
the
structure
of
the
planning
and
zoning
commission,
it's
not
just
that
board
that
would
be
affected.
The
the
county
also
has
two
appointments:
the
board
of
adjustment,
if
the
if
the
etj
is
eliminated,
those
appointments
would
go
away
and
and
and
and
would
be
up
to
council
as
to
as
to
how
to
restructure
the
planning.
Zoning
commission
board
of
adjustment
always
consists
of
five
members,
so.
A
That's
good
to
know
all
right,
so
I
think
you
were
asking
for
four
knots
and
I
think
you
have
three
from
the
committee
and
I
at
mine.
I
had
talked
to
my
suggestion
about
the
etj
a
while
ago
and
I'm
happy
to
see
you
all
moving
something
forward,
so
I
will
not
only
like
to
support
it.
I
would
love
to
be
a
part
of
the
committee
as
well
any
other
comments
from
council
all
right,
mr
richardson.
Thank
you
so
very
much.
Yes,.
D
C
C
I
think
the
most
unusual
one
that
we've
dealt
with
in
the
last
few
months
was
the
pub
cycle
which
I
don't
know
if
it's
operating
yet,
but
maybe
they're
waiting
for
warmer
weather,
which
will
have
beer
drinkers
peddling
a
large
bus.
Like
a
contraption
around
town,
we
had
a
report
from
the
safe
alternatives
for
future
energy
from
the
carolinas.
C
They
call
it
safe,
carolinas,
talking
about
extending
the
emergency
evacuation
zones
around
nuclear
power
plants,
there's
an
effort
to
make
the
warning
areas
and
the
unsafe
the
areas
where
they're
designated
not
safe
to
eat
the
food
and
so
forth
larger.
In
light
of
what
happened
in
fukushima
and
not,
we
haven't
taken
any
action
on
that
yet,
but
we
have
heard
from
them
and
the
fire
chief
has
looked
into
it
with
his
staff,
and
we've
asked
for
more
information
from
safe
carolinas.
C
At
this
point,
we've
had
reports
on
traffic
control,
because
that's
one
of
the
things
we
get
the
most
complaints
about
on
council
is
people
speeding
through
neighborhoods,
and
we
learn
more
about
how
the
police
attempt
to
regulate
that
one
that
I've
just
seen
recently,
I
think,
be
worth
paying
attention
to.
Is
they
there's
cities
now
that
have
set
up
cameras
that
take
a
picture
of
your
license
plate
when
you're
speeding?
C
C
C
Let's
see,
we've
heard
about
the
bicycle
wayfinding
project
that
came
to
council
later
on-
and
this
is
the
maybe
the
most
unusual
one-
and
I
this
is
something
that
everyone
should
take
with
them.
When
you're
being
told
that
asheville
is
a
cesspool
of
sin,
we
learned
that
asheville
has
the
strictest
massage
rules
in
the
state
just
think
about
massage
therapy
rules.
Yes,
yes,
we
are
we're
tougher
than
most
and
we're
being
asked
in
the
legal
department's
looking
into
whether
we
can
bring
our
rules
more
into
line
with
other
cities.
A
L
Good
evening
again,
mayor
members
of
council
again,
thank
you
so
much
for
the
opportunity
to
be
with
you
this
evening.
This
is
our
mid-year
report,
six
months
into
our
fiscal
year,
12
13
and
I'm
so
excited
to
be
here
tonight
to
put
before
you
some
of
the
collective
staff
efforts
that
are
going
on
across
the
city
of
asheville,
I'll,
remind
council
that
what
you
have
before
you
are
your
six
focus
areas.
Back
in
february
of
last
year,
last
2012
council
went
away
and
and
spent
some
time
talking
about
strategic
planning.
L
Council
came
away
from
that
work
and
identified
six
focus
areas,
affordability,
physical
responsibility,
green
and
sustainability,
job
growth,
community
development,
safe
and
the
last
focus
area
that
was
added
is
multimodal
transportation,
six
focus
areas,
the
current
multi-year
strategic
plan,
11
goals
and
51
objectives
in
the
10
minutes
that
I
have
this
evening.
I
cannot
talk
about
all
the
areas
where
we're
moving
the
council's
focus
series
forward.
I
will
say
that
there
is
a
robust
25-page
update
of
the
strategic
plan
at
our
website
www.ashflanc.gov
and
thanks
thanks
for
our
good
folks
in
community
relations.
L
L
Take
a
second
and
highlight
a
couple
of
things:
strategic
investments,
one
of
the
things
that
we've
looked
at
with
the
help
of
a
lot
of
folks
in
the
manager's
office
and
across
the
departments,
is
we're
looking
at
our
projects
that
hit
more
than
one
focus
area
and
you'll
see
the
icons
that
are
denoted
where
we're
looking
at
strategic
investments
where
we're
focusing
on
projects
and
they
cross
over
multiple
focus
areas.
You
can
see
on
the
page
there.
L
I
won't
read
all
of
those
to
you
that
we
have
a
number
of
investments
and
projects
that
we're
moving
forward,
that
hit
two
three
and
even
in
some
cases,
four
of
our
focus
areas
and-
and
those
are
the
ones
that
are
going
to
give
us
the
biggest
return
on
investment
in
a
number
of
areas.
I'll
highlight
a
couple.
L
The
ice
house
property
city
council
has
been
involved
with
riverfront
development
and
one
of
the
key
pieces
of
property
down.
There
is
the
ice
house
property.
Earlier
this
year,
city
council
agreed
and
directed
staff
to
go
ahead
and
purchase
the
property
and
it's
in
the
process
of
being
demolished
as
we
speak.
L
What
this
will
do
is
this
will
give
us
the
land
that
we
need
for
future
implementation
of
radtip,
wilma
document
riverway
plan,
and
it
will
significantly
improve
public
safety
in
the
area
by
securing
a
dangerous
and
dilapidated
building
other
strategic
investments
in
that
same
area.
This
is
new
belgium
and
again,
we've
had
a
lot
of
attention
on
new
belgium
over
the
past
year,
but
in
the
last
six
months
the
plan
has
come
to
reality.
L
City
staff
have
rolled
their
sleeves
up
and
worked
very
hard
with
the
new
company
coming
into
asheville
the
residents
in
the
west
asheville
area,
and
we
have
worked
hard
as
the
brewery
announced
plans
for
the
115
million
dollar
plant
new
job
creation
of
over
130
jobs.
Average
wages
at
about
150
percent
of
the
average
across
buncombe
county
city
council
approved
incentives
for
this,
and
now
we're
working
hard
on
craven
street
improvements.
L
They're
expected,
I
think,
to
begin
construction
in
fall
of
2013.
and,
as
council
knows
better
than
most
people
in
our
community.
This
is
a
transformational
project
for
the
riverway.
Again,
four
of
the
core
focus
areas
are
identified
with
this
project:
eagle
street
market
development
right
here
off
the
back
side
of
our
municipal
building
and
very
close
to
city
hall.
Another
transformational
project,
where
a
lot
of
funding
partners,
three
core
focus
areas
and
this
project
is
receiving
funding.
L
L
These
are
four
projects
that
I
just
pulled
in
a
very
short
period
of
time.
The
eagle
market
street
city
funds
1.8
other
funds
about
9.4
million,
go
down
the
list.
You
see
our
partnership
with
our
public
housing
partnership
that
the
asheville
city
council
approved
several
months
ago
in
our
public
housing
areas,
we're
focusing
on
high
crime
areas,
and
we
want
these
areas
to
become
better
places
for
our
citizens
to
live
and
again
the
investment
is
70
000
to
almost
400
000
of
non-city
money.
L
And
when
you
look
at
these
four
you're,
looking
at
almost
a
two
to
one
ratio
of
city
money
with
partnerships
and
non-city
money
to
move
key
strategic
objectives
forward
that
move
your
core
focus
areas
forward:
organizational
efficiencies.
I've
talked
about
our
external
projects
and
our
community
partners.
But
how
about
our
again?
Our
great
city
staff,
with
our
organizational
efficiencies?
L
L
L
Internally-
and
you
may
say,
you
may
I'd
like
to
explain
one-
that's
a
little
less
money,
but
it's
still
to
me.
It's
very
significant
fire
department,
video
training
systems.
This
is
one
where
our
fire
department
was
at
a
conference.
They
identified
some
technology,
that's
out
there.
As
you
know,
we
have
fire
departments
strategically
located
all
over
the
city
of
asheville.
L
L
That
is
in
effect
this
year
and
our
annual
fuel
savings
will
be
at
about
twelve
thousand
dollars
a
year,
just
from
being
able
to
keep
fire
fire
trucks
at
stations,
keeping
our
people
at
our
stations
and
doing
the
training
remotely
through
this
I.t
technology,
and
so
we're
very
proud
of
these
types
of
systems
that
our
employees
are
identifying
to
save
money.
It's
green
and
sustainable
and
it
keeps
our
people
at
our
stations
and
keeps
us
safe.
L
Our
quality
of
life
we've
focused
hard
on
several
things
that
I'd
like
to
talk
to
you
about
that
again
cross
over
several
key
core
focus
areas
for
for
asheville,
the
haywood
road
form-based
code
that
got
a
lot
of
discussion
at
the
west
asheville
community
meeting
the
other
night.
I'd
like
to
talk
a
second
about
changing
together,
our
continuing
homelessness
efforts,
10-year
plan
to
end
homelessness,
safe
routes
to
school
and
the
cts
site.
L
You've
approved
funding
that
will
allow
staff
to
seek
a
consultant
partner
to
initiate
the
first
stage
of
a
form-based
code
planning
policy
and
co-changes
in
the
haywood
road
in
west
asheville
city
staff
has
sought
significant
public
input
during
the
visioning
process.
Council
approved
this
this
past
january
as
a
result
of
of
the
budget
process.
Last
year
and
again,
three
of
the
six
core
focus
areas
are
highlighted
here:
safe
routes
to
school.
This
is
the
emma
road
sidewalk.
L
This
is
just
outside
of
the
city
of
asheville,
another
key
partnership
and
again
much
needed
sidewalk
near
a
school
and
three
of
the
six
areas
are
noted
here
and
what
do
we
leave
out?
We
left
out
safe,
and
so
that's
an
area
that
we
we
didn't
identify
but
sidewalk
connections
near
our
schools,
certainly
increased
safety.
L
Changing
together,
this
is
a
program
that
is
a
part
of
our
governor's
crime
commission
funding.
Asheville
is
a
city
that
has
been
targeted
in
our
third
year
of
receiving.
This
funding
are
changing
together,
project
impact
from
2011
until
the
present.
This
is
where
we
identify
through
multi-agency
cooperation.
We
identify
some
of
our
most
violent
offenders
in
our
community.
L
We
invite
those
offenders
to
come
in
and
to
talk
to
a
number
of
people
representing
a
number
of
agencies.
These
are
people
that
are
representing
federal
state
and
local
law
enforcement,
our
judicial
system
and
our
resource
providers
and
our
community,
and
we
try
to
convince
these
people
to
change
their
life,
to
basically
turn
around
their
habits
and
to
come
and
to
come
forward,
step
forward,
accept
resources
and
to
turn
it
around.
Thus
far.
Since
2011
we
have
brought
57
violent
offenders
in
to
go
through
this
program.
L
36
of
the
57
have
accepted
our
invitation
and
30
out
of
the
36,
no
new
charges
since
the
time
that
that
we
brought
these
people
forward
and
these
people
are
brought
in
and
told
basically
that
we
have
a
very
seamless
judicial
system.
Our
law
enforcement
agencies
are
cooperating,
we're
going
to
offer
you
resources.
We
want
to
help
turn
you
around
and
if
and
if
you
decide
to
ignore
our
pleas
to
help
you
then,
the
next
time
that
you
commit
a
crime.
L
It's
going
to
be
a
trigger
crime,
there's
going
to
be
a
high
level
of
coordination
and
we're
going
to
focus
our
efforts
on
doing
what
we
can
to
remove
you
from
the
community
excellent
program
it's
in
year,
three
and
it
it
requires
a
lot
of
cross-community
partnerships.
These
are
our
changing
together
partners
in
our
community
and
again,
it's
federal
state
and
local
law
enforcement.
Our
judicial
system,
our
resource
providers,
I'm
very
proud
that
the
city
of
asheville
is
a
leader
in
trying
to
provide
community
safety.
L
Finally,
I'll
end
with
our
culture
of
leadership,
our
workforce
and
I've
bragged
on
them
several
times.
Our
workforce
is
our
most
important
resource
in
city
government
and
we're
working
hard
to
develop
our
workforce.
We
are
devoting
a
significant
amount
of
time.
84
people
have
gone
through
and
completed
a
series
of
leadership
classes
called
culture
of
leadership.
You
see
our
city
manager.
Here
we
have
several
guest
speakers
that
come
in
these
are
classes
between
15
and
25
people.
L
Finally,
again
bragging
on
our
workforce,
scott
burnett
is
pictured
here
with
local
united
way
and
state
united
way
officials.
I
think
we're
going
to
have
a
formal
celebration
in
april
and
ask
our
united
way
to
be
here,
but
but
in
the
fall
of
this
year,
scott
and
a
team
of
staff
led
an
outstanding
united
way
campaign
where
our
giving
went
up
from
last
year.
We
we
had
our
highest
level
of
giving
in
in
over
three
years,
and
I
think
it
speaks
well
to
our
city
employees,
commitment
to
this
community.
L
Y
A
S
S
Okay,
good
evening,
mayor
and
council,
I'm
here
tonight
to
present
the
second
quarter
financial
report
attached
to
your
agenda
tonight
is
the
full
report.
It's
a
14,
page,
robust
report
and
it
highlights
everything
from
our
general
fund
to
our
enterprise
funds,
as
well
as
some
of
our
major
capital
projects.
So
if
you
have
specific
questions
about
those
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
them,
we
do
have
some
some
high
level
summary
information
to
share
with
you.
S
As
usual,
we
have
our
color
coded
dot
system
to
update
you
on
some
of
our
major
revenues
and
expenses
in
the
general
fund
this
year.
As
I
come
to
you
with
the
second
quarter
report,
we
a
lot
of
the
information
that
we
have
now
is
based
on
data
we're
seeing
in
this
current
year.
When
I
came
to
you
in
november
with
the
first
quarter
report.
S
As
I
mentioned,
then
a
lot
of
that
data
was
based
more
on
trends
that
we
had
seen
last
year
as
opposed
to
things
that
were
really
going
on
in
the
current
year,
because
it
was
so
early
in
the
year.
But
at
this
point
in
the
fiscal
year
we've
gotten
some
additional
information,
some
very
important
information
about
some
of
our
revenues
that
helps
us
firm
up
some
of
our
estimates
for
the
current
year
and
and
work
through
those
as
we
go
into
the
budget
process
for
next
year.
S
One
of
those
key
pieces
of
information
is
the
the
property
tax
data
and
every
january
each
year
we
receive
from
the
county
tax
assessor
our
official
tax-based
information
for
that
fiscal
year.
We've
received
that
data
this
year
and
I
can
report
to
you
all
that
our
tax
base
for
the
current
year
grew
by
0.6
compared
to
last
year
that
growth
rate
is
still
down
from
what
we
had
seen
prior
to
the
recession.
When
we
were
seeing
two
to
three
percent
growth
each
year.
S
S
S
We
do
not,
as
of
yet
have
the
the
december
sales
tax
information
that
won't
come
in
until
next
month,
so
we'll
come
back
and
update
you
all
at
that
point,
once
we
receive
that,
there's
are
some
indications
that
december
revenue
was
not
as
robust
as
it
had
been
in
previous
years,
and
some
research
at
the
state
level
is
indicating
that
second
quarter
or
second
half
of
the
year
sales
tax
growth
growth
may
be
slower
than
what
we
saw
in
the
first
half.
So
we'll
keep
an
eye
on
that.
For
you
all.
S
As
far
as
intergovernmental
revenue
goes,
we
still
are
projecting
we're
going
to
come
in
under
budget
on
state
utility
taxes.
It's
been
a
fairly
warm
winter
so
far.
That
is
a
revenue,
that's
very
that
is
affected
by
warmer
winters
and
cooler
summers,
and
so
our
revenue
is
down
there
and
we're
down
about
five
percent
this
year.
Even
compared
to
last
year,
so
we
think
we're
going
to
come
in
under
budget
there.
S
S
For
the
enterprise
funds
again
not
much
change
here
we
had
projected
at
the
during
the
first
quarter
that
the
civic
center
was
going
to
come
in
under
budget
or
below
expected
performance
based
on
the
fact
that
the
event
load
this
year
was
was
looking
very
similar
to
last
year
and
and
last
year's
event,
load
was
less
than
that
had
been
in
previous
years.
We're
still
seeing
that
trend
continue.
S
Currently
the
one
update
here,
the
one
changes
in
the
transit
fund
each
year
during
the
the
budget
process,
we
estimate
how
much
revenue
we're
going
to
get
from
the
federal
and
state
government
for
our
transit
system
and
and
those
truly
are
estimates.
We
don't
know
at
the
time
exactly
how
much
those
reimbursements
are
going
to
be.
As
we've
moved
into
the
fiscal
year,
we've
gained
some
additional
information
and
we
think
those
revenues
are
going
to
come
in
under
budget
by
about
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
the
current
year.
S
S
And
finally,
just
to
highlight
you
all
some
of
the
key
upcoming
dates
and
some
of
these
have
changed
based
on
actions
from
today
at
today's
finance
committee
meeting,
the
the
the
committee
reviewed,
the
proposed
fees
and
charges
for
fy13
those
fees
and
charges
will
be
coming
to
the
full
council
for
approval.
At
the
march
26
meeting,
there
are
going
to
be
two
council
budget
work
sessions,
one
on
march
12th
and
the
other
one
on
april,
the
3rd.
AC
U
AB
AB
Well,
well,
you're,
right,
it's
it's
there's
a
there's,
a
continuing
battle
for
lack
of
a
better
term
between
the
between
the
the
the
continuing
competition
between
the
legislation
and
the
technology
that
keeps
that
keeps
the
games
one
step
ahead
of
it.
But
I
think
that
as
long
as
as
long
as
the
the
games
are,
it
exists
in
some
form.
We
can
continue
to
collect
revenue
from
it.
M
I
I
would
just
if
I
could
just
add
there
is
quite
a
bit
of
tax
reform
legislation
under
consideration
and
they
are
making
it
very
clear
to
us
that
they're
not
going
to
hold
municipalities
revenue
neutral
through
that
process.
So
anything
that
is
a
source
of
revenue
enabled
by
the
state
legislature
is
under
review.
B
M
AB
S
C
S
S
A
A
R
The
subject
property
is
located
at
the
corner
of
montford
avenue
here
and
west
chestnut
here
in
the
montford
neighborhood,
often
at
the
beginning
of
a
presentation
to
orient
the
audience,
we
will
mention
nearby
landmarks.
In
this
case,
the
property
itself
is
the
landmark.
This
is
a
distinctive
building,
with
an
unusual
facade.
R
Until
very
recently
was
the
pentecostal
tabernacle
church
a
little
bit
more
history
on
it.
It
was
built
sometime
before
1907
in
the
first
half
of
the
20th
century.
It
appears
to
have
been
a
general
store
and
a
dry
goods
store,
grocery
store
and
second
half
of
the
the
20th
century.
Up
until
this
past
december
was
a
church.
R
I
did
want
to
correct
one
thing
for
the
record.
In
my
staff
report,
I
identified
this
property
as
possibly
vacant.
I
learned
today
that
it
isn't
in
fact
inhabited,
and
the
applicant's
request
here
is
to
rezone
the
property
from
rm8
to
nb,
which
is
neighborhood
business
nb,
the
neighborhood
business
zoning
was
created
for
this
type
of
location.
In
a
neighborhood,
as
I
mentioned,
the
property
has
a
history
of
having
been
used
for
commercial
purposes.
R
It's
at
a
prominent
corner,
the
neighborhood
business
district
allows
for
lower
impact
uses.
It
would
allow
for
a
restaurant
retail
office,
for
example,
but
examples
of
types
of
businesses
that
would
be
allowed
in
other
commercial
zoning
districts,
but
not
neighborhood
business
would
be
banks,
clinics
and
funeral
homes.
R
The
all
the
zoning
around
it
is
rm8,
so
one
might
ask
if
this
would
be
characterized
as
spot
zoning,
but
this
map
of
the
montford
avenue
corridor.
The
subject
property
is
here
with
a
red
star.
You
can
see,
there's
also
a
very
small
neighborhood
business
zoning
district.
Here,
that's
the
nine-mile
restaurant
and
there's
a
store
there
as
well.
This
is
the
todd's
tasties
again
another
instance
of
a
small
neighborhood
business
zoning
district,
depending
on
what
use
is
ultimately
selected
again.
This
is
a
standard
rezoning,
so
no
use
is
specified.
R
R
There
were
some
folks
who
were
concerned
about
which
ex
precisely
which
uses
would
be
allowed
and
wouldn't,
and
staff
has
explained
that,
with
this
type
of
rezoning,
there
can't
be
conditions
placed
on
exactly
which
type
of
use
as
long
as
it's
a
use,
that's
permitted
in
the
zoning
district,
one
citizen
was
definitely
opposed
to
the
project.
Her
primary
concern
being
traffic
and
parking
issues,
the
proj,
the
the
rezoning
has
been
endorsed
by
the
montford
neighborhood
association
and
at
the
planning
and
zoning
commission's
meeting
earlier
this
month.
R
A
Q
Hi
council
mayor,
my
name
is
michael
mcdonough.
I
am
half
owner
of
this
building.
I
live
right
up
the
street.
I
can
throw
a
rock
and
hit
that
building
and
I've
been
looking
at
it
for
quite
a
while
and
hoping
that
it
gets
a
little
love.
So
that's
what
I'm
going
to
give
it
this
a
little
love,
I'm
hoping
that
each
of
you
read
additional
background
in
addition
to
what
blood
gave
you.
So
I'm
here
just
to
answer
any
questions.
H
H
That
says
they
may
require
an
additional
sign
signs
or
lights,
or
perhaps
a
reconfiguration
of
the
intersection,
and
my
husband
and
I
owned
a
lot
right
across
the
street,
which
is
a
triangular,
very
kind
of
difficult
layout
for
a
lot
and
that
specific
change
on
the
intersection
could
really
affect
us,
and
I
just
wanted
to
ask
what
are
the
consequences
of
having
the
the
added
traffic
and
the
parking
requirements
we're
excited
about
having
a
neighborhood
business
right
there
across
the
street
that
we're
just
also
concerned
about
okay?
How
will
change
that.
R
It
would
be
very
different
for
a
lawyer's
office
than
it
would
be
for
a
restaurant,
for
example,
but
he
said
if,
if
the
proposed
use
to
come
in
there
were
to
be
generating
significantly
more
traffic,
it
could
be
the
the
most
likely
modification
that
he
suggested
would
be
that
what
he
called
an
extra
leg
on
the
traffic
signal
right
now.
This
is
just
a
stop
sign.
R
So,
while
there's
a
traffic
signal
at
this,
this
intersection
of
this
section
of
chestnut
here
in
montford,
the
this
leg
of
chestnut,
does
not
have
a
signal
that
you
can
see
as
you
pull
up
to
montford
avenue.
What
he
said
might
be
the
the
modification
that
would
happen
if
this
were
to
generate
more
traffic
would
be
an
additional
light
here,
so
that
traffic
coming
off
of
chestnut
street
would
the
had
the
the
signal
here
to
control
their
movement,
not
just
the
the
stoplight
at
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
meeting.
R
There
were
also
some
some
discussion
about
whether
additional
parking
might
require
if
they
were
parking
in
excess
of
what
could
be
accommodated
on
site.
If
there
might
be
measures
to
accommodate
that,
and-
and
the
discussion
was
that
that
that
could
be
considered.
But
again
it's
it's
entirely
dependent
on
on
what
would
happen,
what
what
specifically
the
use
was
and
how
much
traffic
it
would
generate.
K
V
A
C
Q
A
Opposed
sign
the
motion
carries
unanimously.
The
last
public
hearing
is
the
public
hearing
to
consider
an
amendment
to
the
unified
development
ordinance
to
provide
additional
clarification
for
two-story
requirements
for
new
construction
and
allowances
for
one-story
additions
to
existing
buildings
and
for
accessory
structures.
Mr
glynes
will
make
this
presentation
welcome.
Thank.
T
In
2010.
We
made
the
latest
changes
to
the
central
business
district
zone
and
those
were
based
on
the
downtown
master
plan
development
back
in
2008
2009.
When
the
master
plan
was
anticipated
and
created.
There
was
a
lot
there's
expectation
that
new
development
would
be
in
the
form
of
new
multi-story
structures,
and
since
that
time,
and
because
of
the
economic
downturn,
we
have
had
new
investment
in
downtown.
But
it's
been
a
more
limited
scale,
often
including
renovation
and
expansions
of
existing
and
one-story
buildings.
T
So
we
are
seeing
some
interest
additional
interest
in
larger
projects,
we're
meeting
with
folks
on
a
case-by-case
basis
time.
You
know
here
and
there,
but
we're
still
seeing
a
lot
of
continued
interest
in
renovating
one-story
buildings.
We
expect
that
to
be
a
trend
for
a
while
longer,
especially
in
areas
that
surround
the
traditional
downtown
core.
T
There's
a
lot
of
good
things
about
these
one-story
renovations
and
reinvestment.
It
does
represent
new
business
growth
and
development.
It
also
supports
historic
preservation
and
it
these
these
are
incubator
projects,
sometimes
for
smaller
local
businesses.
So
it's
really
important
for
the
downtown
environment,
but
we
have
had
four
recent
variances
to
approve
the
changes.
T
To
these
proposals,
and
so
we've
identified
some
modifications
that
need
to
be
made,
and
these
fall
into
the
category
of
one-story
additions,
better
definition
for
two-story
requirements
and
setback
requirements,
so
in
general,
new
construction
in
downtown
is
expected
to
be
two
stories
at
a
minimum,
and
those
buildings
would
be
placed
close
to
the
frontage
line.
On
a
lot.
T
As
I
said,
the
cbd
requires
new
buildings
to
be
constructed
at
two
stories
and
we
want
to
just
define
that
a
little
more
clearly
make
that
a
24
foot
minimum
standard,
not
just
two
story-
to
be
a
little
more
clear
about
that,
and
also
through
a
lot
of
discussion
with
our
planning
zoning
commission
and
the
downtown
commission.
The
second
story
represents
a
lot
of
investment
in
downtown
a
long-term
sustainability
and
it
supports
the
tax
base.
So
we
want
to
be
sure
and
be
clear
that
the
second
story
needs
to
cover
the
full.
T
T
Another
proposal
we're
bringing
to
you
is
clarity
about
the
one
story:
editions
they're
not
really
really
allowed.
Now
by
right,
you
have
to
go
through
a
variance
process,
but
if
they
were
smaller
editions
or
smaller
in
relation
to
the
footprint
of
the
the
original
building,
the
primary
building,
we
feel
like
they're
they're,
reasonable
to
request
because
of
that
financial
and
economic
investment
they're,
so
they're
so
important,
and
it's
very
common
when
any
building
is
being
renovated.
T
T
We
also
want
to
look
at
accessory
structures,
while
they're
allowed
in
the
use
table
for
the
downtown
central
business
district.
It's
not
at
all
clear
about
where
they're
allowed
and
these
one
store.
These
accessory
structures
are
often
one
story.
They're
often
used
for
storage,
often
at
the
back
of
a
lot,
but
you
know
so
they
have
a
real
purpose
when
it
comes
to
a
business.
T
T
T
We
want
to
see
that
kind
of
a
project
move
forward
in
downtown
and
for
other
areas
of
downtown,
but
there's
a
row
of
buildings
there
that
are
being
preserved
as
part
of
that
project
and
there
they
front
on
eagle
street,
well
they're
one
story
in
nature
and
they
don't
and
they're
being
preserved
as
part
of
the
development.
So
that's
a
great
thing,
but
the
ordinance
for
street
wall
and
the
code
doesn't
really
recognize
that
as
being
an
allowed,
you
know
exception
to
the
rule.
T
T
You
know
about
about
the
outcome
and
we
figured
it
would
pass
and
it
did,
but
this
amendment
would
cover
those
kind
of
scenarios
when
they
we
have
a
one-story
building
being
preserved
as
part
of
a
larger
project,
and
that
would
meet
you
know,
be
a
part
of
our
downtown
historic
area.
So
we
want
to
build
that
into
the
list
of
amen
of
variances
or
options
for
street
wall.
That's
what
that's
there
for.
Finally,
we
have
an
amendment
for
setback,
flexibility
for
additions.
T
So
in
general
we
have
existing
buildings
in
downtown
and
they're,
basically
grandfathered
in,
but
you
know,
new
construction
has
to
be
of
zero
setback,
basically
placed
right
behind
the
sidewalk
level
at
the
front
of
a
lot.
Well,
the
existing
buildings
are
grandfathered
in
sometimes,
and
their
locations
are
also
grandfathered
in.
They
might
be
set
back,
20
feet.
T
Excuse
me,
and
those
are
they're
non-compliant,
but
they're,
but
they
stay
put
even
when
a
building
undergoes
renovations
to
meet
a
building
code
standards
or
upgraded
to
meet
the
building
code.
That
placement
of
that
building's
never
changed,
and
we
accept
that.
That's
just
a
you
know,
that's
the
that's
where
it
is.
We
never
have
someone
take
a
building
down
for
that
reason,
but
when
these
additions
come
in,
they
have
a
challenge
with
that.
So
they're
additions
to
existing
buildings,
the
buildings
the
existing
buildings
grant
fathered
in,
but
the
addition
wouldn't
be.
T
So
the
variance,
then,
is
another
thing.
That's
required
for
the
addition
to
these
buildings
that
may
be
grandfathered
in
at
their
location,
and
this
amendment
would
would
be
to
to
make
that
that
as
an
option
to
approve
it
because
they,
you
know
they're
they're
attached,
like
I
said
where
they're
needed
on
the
building,
they
might
be
an
entrance
vestibule,
but
they
also
might
be
the
kitchen
and
you
want.
T
I
want
the
kitchen
in
the
back,
so
this
would
provide
some
relief
in
those
situations
which,
right
now
we
have
to
ask
for
hardship
variants.
In
those
cases
we
have
central
business
district
areas
in
west
asheville
as
well.
The
standards
for
central
business
district
there
are
not
as
complex
for
as
the
downtown
area,
but
we
did
make
amendments.
About
the
same
time.
We
approved
the
amendments
for
the
downtown
cbd.
T
We
have
a
similar
request
for
changes
in
the
west
asheville
area,
they're
not
as
complex,
but
they
still
would
have
the
same
help
for
folks
over
there
we
exp
and
west
asheville.
We
do
expect
additional
investment
and
redevelopment
we've
had
about
three
new
buildings
built
in
the
last
10
years,
but
we've
had
a
lot
of
renovations
during
that
same
period
of
time
and
we
expect
to
see
a
lot
more.
We've
reviewed
this
ordinance
and
this
request
against
the
strategic
operating
plan
that's
been
adopted
by
council,
the
the
operating
plan.
T
Let's
see,
we
want
to
implement
community
adopted
plans
with
reasonable
regulations
to
assure
a
balanced
approach
to
managing
the
community's
resources
and
encouraging
redevelopment
and
continued
investment.
That's
how
this
amendment
will
fit
in
with
that.
It
helps
with
those
things
the
downtown
master
plan.
T
T
Finally,
the
haywood
road
plan,
although
it's
not
been
it's
in
draft
form,
a
lot
of
the
goals
for
west
asheville
and
haywood
road
were
for
historic
preservations,
and
that
was
something
that
came
loud
and
clear
through
community
meetings
there,
and
so
this.
This
type
of
amendments,
which
will
encourage
the
reuse
of
existing
building
stock,
supports
historic
preservation,
the
historic
building
stock.
T
This
amendment
was
sent
through
the
downtown
commission,
which
did
approve
it,
and
the
planning
zoning
commission
worked
on
it
for
a
small
period
of
time
and
just
wanted
to
reiterate
the
value
of
that
second
story,
and
I
think
that
that
pretty
much
covers
all
of
my
report
and
I
can
answer
any
questions.
If
you
have
any.
A
Y
Have
a
question,
as
I
thought
about
this
thing,
one
of
the
concerns
I
have
or
a
little
bit
of
a
concern
is
how
we
define
the
accessory
building.
I
I
can
see
what
we're
trying
to
do,
and
I
know
cases
where
this
is
or
I
know
the
reason
it's
here
yeah,
but
it
occurs
to
me
that
you
might
end
up
with
an
aluminum
shed
sitting
beside
a
one-story
building
with
a
little
bit
of
setback.
If
we're
not
careful,
how?
How
do
we
design
define
that
and
what?
T
The
principal
building.
Excuse
me
for
principle:
you
served
so
it's
got
a
scale
factor,
that's
a
lot
smaller,
except
for
the
except
for
the
the
outside
dining
canopy,
which
is
it
really
is
an
accessory
use
to
the
restaurant
which
could
be
placed
in
the
front.
All
of
them
would
be
expected
to
be
in
the
back
now.
It
could
be
a
little
clearer
if
you,
if
you
propose
something
like
that.
Y
T
Yeah,
I
remember
it
seemed
like
we've
had
a
few,
I'm
just
trying
to
think
where
we've
had
them
in
the
past.
I
guess
the
the
banks
avenue
restaurant
that
was
is
now
proposed
and
we
took
a
variance
forward
for
them.
They're.
They
have
a
large
lot
and
they're.
I
might
just
show
you
an
image
of
that's.
Okay,.
T
T
So
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
space
in
front
here.
I
feel
like
with
this
kind
of
a
definition
which
is
helpful
because
it
describes
scale
and
subordination
of
to
the
principal
use.
I
think
we've
got
some
things
to
cover
things.
If,
if
we
feel
that,
if
staff
feels
that
something
is
going
to
overtake
the
main
building
or
become
a
problem,
I
think
we
can
deny
it.
Y
You
know
I
was
aware
that
the
one
that
brought
this
one
up
and-
and
I
just
had
some
concerns
about
how
much
latitude
we're
allowing
with
that.
So
I
I
think
you
probably
understand
my
concern
and
I
think
that
I'm
comfortable
with
where
we
are
on
this.
In
fact,
I
really
appreciate
the
fact
that
planting
has
recognized
that
these
things
are
coming
forward
with
frequency
enough
to
where
the
merits
changing
to
where
these
things
are
not
hardships
to
so
many
people,
especially
the
time
we've
got
a
downward
economy
and
we're
looking
to
see
things
growing.
Y
I
think
you're
going
to
see
a
lot
more
of
these
single-story
existing
buildings
being
improved
on.
So
with
that,
I'm
very
happy
to
recommend
or
to
move
that
we
approve
the
amendments
to
the
udos
described
in
the
staff
report,
but
I
would
like
to
see
a
little
bit
more
clarity
of
what
we
do
with
those
accessory
structures.
T
24
foot
height
was
a
product
of
the
planning
zoning
commission
and
they
felt
that
we
we
do
want
to
scale
a
proper
scale
at
the
street
and
that
we
want
a
minimum
height
that
does
address
the
street.
With
with
the
two-story
and
the
architect
on
the
planning,
zoning
commission
recommended
a
24-foot
height
of
because
in
a
commercial
zone
in
the
downtown
area,
the
first
floor
is
often
tall.
T
C
N
Okay,
just
a
couple
of
comments
on
your
comments,
mr
davis,
we
can,
as
we
do
on
other
things,
keep
an
eye
on
it
and
report
back
to
you
on
the
year,
see
how
it's
going
and
see
if
we're
seeing
any
concerns
and,
of
course,
we'll
continue
to
monitor
it
and,
if
you're
concerned
about
that,
mr
bothwell,
perhaps
this
ac
committee
might
want
to
look
into
it
a
little
further.
You
might
want
to
ask
them
to
do
that.
Sure.
Okay,.
A
All
in
favor
of
the
motion
please
say:
aye
aye
aye
aye
allah
pulls
like
son.
The
motion
carries
unanimously.
We
only
have
one
more
item
for
consideration
under
unfinished
business.
Consideration
of
adoption
of
findings,
of
fact
to
support
the
resolution
to
close
moody
avenue
and
ms
mcglohan
is
going
to
have
to
talk
to
a
couple
of
new
newest
members
of
council.
First.
AD
AD
As
such,
he
felt
that
there
was
no
way
that
he
could
review
the
council's
decision
without
counsel
making
specific
findings
of
fact
and
that,
and
therefore
he
remanded
the
matter
back
to
this
council
to
make
findings
of
fact
to
support
the
council's
decision
to
close
the
alley,
and
that
is
why
it
is
back
before
you
tonight
in
your
agenda
package.
I
have
prepared
proposed
finders
of
fact
and
set
forth
procedural
history
of
the
case
in
an
effort
not
to
belabor
the
procedural
history
of
the
case.
AD
I
realized
that
I
did
not
provide
each
and
every
one
of
you
with
a
copy
of
the
complete
record.
The
complete
racket
would
consist
of
all
of
those
items
that
were
before
city
council
on
the
22nd
day
of
november,
including
the
verbatim
transcript
and
the
verbatim
transcript
would
be
everyone
that
spoke
at
that
hearing
on
the
22nd
day
of
november.
AD
So
in
light
of
that,
many
of
you
may
feel
that
you
do
not
have
enough
information
in
order
to
make
a
decision
tonight.
So
before
I
go
any
further.
Let
me
stop
at
this
point,
because
if
you
believe
that
you
need
additional
time
in
order
to
review
those
facts
based
upon
the
record
and
I've,
given
the
record
in
the
verbatim
transcript
to
the
city
clerk,
then
perhaps
there
is
no
need
for
me
to
go
any
further.
AD
If
I
wasn't
here-
and
I
didn't
vote,
can
I
vote
on
this
matter
tonight
and
I
would
refer
to
your
legal
counsel,
but
based
upon
my
understanding
of
the
law,
is
the
answer?
Is
yes,
as
long
as
you
have
familiarized
yourself
with
the
facts
and
you're
familiar
enough
with
the
facts,
you
may
vote
on
this
matter.
A
AD
Tonight,
what
is
before,
you
are
the
finance
effect
that
judge
genn
asked
that
city
council
make,
and
I
have
looked
at
the
record.
I
have
looked
at
the
verbatim
transcript
and
I
have
gathered
those
findings
from
the
record
to
support
council's
decision
to
close
the
alley,
specifically
that
it
is
not
contrary
to
the
public
interest
to
that.
No
property
owner
owning
property
in
the
vicinity
of
the
closing
would
be
denied
reasonable
means
of
ingress
and
egress
to
their
property.
AD
Now
there
may
be
a
question
about
well
exactly
what
is
the
procedure
for
council
to
adopt
these
findings
of
fact,
let
me
first
emphasize
that
the
resolution
to
close
that
alley,
which
council
adopted
on
the
22nd
day
of
november,
is
a
valid
resolution
that
is
not
before
you
tonight.
There
is
not
another
public
hearing.
There
is
no
new
notice
that
needs
to
go
out.
AD
That
resolution
to
close
is
still
a
valid
resolution
and
it
will
stand
or
fall
on
its
own
merits,
either
before
a
buncombe
county,
superior
court
judge
or
in
a
subsequent
appellate
court
review.
If
that
is
necessary,
so
you're
not
being
asked
to
hear
additional
comments,
you're
not
being
asked
to
provide
new
notice,
but
merely
to
to
adopt
the
findings.
AD
And
so
there
may
be
some
question
about
well.
What
type
of
vote
must
it
be
by
a
super
majority
or
a
simple
majority?
It
is
my
understanding,
according
to
your
legal
counsel,
that
the
vote
here
tonight
must
be
a
majority
of
the
council
members.
So
we
must
have
at
least
four
votes,
and
let
me
also
point
out
that
petitioners
account
counselor,
mr
fiano's
counsel,
bob
deutsch
and
tacoom,
and
I've
forgotten
to
coons
last
night.
AD
D
AD
And
miss
van
gaamer,
if
I
could
just
please
clarify,
I
did
not
inform
mr
gatchu.
I
think
that's
his
last
name
that
he
could
not
make
public
comment
that
it
would
be
left
up
to
counsel
to
determine
whether
or
not
he
would
be
allowed
to
address
counsel,
but
that
I
was
prepared
to
to
hand
his
objections
to
the
city
clerk.
A
Y
AB
I
did
talk
briefly
with
with
with
mr
deutsch
and
and
about
this
and
their
contention.
Is
that
because
it's
been
remanded
for
for
for
finding
the
fact
that
council
essentially
has
to
initiate
the
whole
process
all
over
again
and
and
follow
all
the
processes
for
adoption
of
resolutions
and
ordinances,
and
I
disagree
with
him-
this
is
this.
This
is
it's
not
been
remanded
for
a
new
hearing,
it's
been
remanded
to
make
punting
the
fact.
A
AB
A
And
so
basically
he's,
but
his
argument
is
that,
because
you've
compiled
them
as
the
findings
of
fact,
they
were
not
presented.
That
way.
The
night
that
we
had
the
opportunity
to
hear
everybody's
arguments
that
evening,
and
so
that's,
why
he's
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
what's
the
basis
for
his
argument.
AD
Well,
I
certainly
will
not
pretend
to
try
to
gather
the
mental
impression
of
what
the
judge
was
thinking.
I
can
only
say
what
he
stated:
it
is
not
uncustomary
for
a
resolution
to
close
to
make
the
specific
statutory
finances
set
forth
in
the
city's
resolution
and
in
the
numerous
cases
that
I
have
reviewed,
there
have
been
no
additional
findings
of
fact.
However,
this
judge
wanted
those
specific
findings
of
fact,
as
opposed
to
me,
referring
him
to
those
specific
findings
set
forth
in
the
record.
A
AD
Well,
I
do
not
want
to
provide
additional
public
comment
at
this
point,
because
we
must
rely
upon
the
public
comment
and
the
record
as
it
exists
and
as
the
record
exists
and
as
the
findings
set
forth.
The
findings
reflect
that
council
determined
at
on
that
night,
the
22nd
of
november
of
2011
that
no
person
in
the
vicinity
of
the
alley
would
be
denied
reasonable
means
of
ingress
and
egress
to
their
property.
AD
Now
what
mr
fiano
is
contending
is
that
he-
and
this
is
one
of
the
one
of
the
issues
that
he
raised
in
his
appeal-
is
that
he
would
be
denied
reasonable
means
of
ingress
and
egress
to
a
potential
secondary
structure,
and
that
is
not
the
reading
of
the
statute.
Again,
I
don't
want
to
get
into
debating
the
arguments
back
and
forth
because
mr
fiona's
attorney
is
not
here,
but
those
are
the
findings
that
set
forth
okay.
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A
We
have
approximately
13
individuals
who
are
receiving
questions
from
the
city
clerk
in
order
to
make
a
give
us
more
information
about
why
they
want
to
serve
our
community
as
members
of
the
school
board,
I
am
asking
that
we
change
the
date
of
the
public
questioning
process,
which
is
the
26th
and
the
date
we
appoint.
That's
the
spring
break
and
many
of
the
parents
who
will
be
engaged
in
watching
and
participating
in
that
process.
A
Most
of
the
kids
they're
gonna,
a
lot
of
people
will
be
traveling,
but
by
state
statute
we
must
have
them
seated
by
april
1st,
so
it
will
have
to
be
before
that,
and
so
I
won't
be
here
on
the
26th,
and
this
is
the
one
board
that
I
have
a
big
interest
in,
as
I
think
there
are
only
two
people
who
have
kids
in
city
schools.
Right
now.
You
have
children.
W
A
I
am
open
to
any.
I
saw
a
lot
of
dates
when
you
all
were
talking
about
the
retreat
that
were
closed.
So
if
we
could
go
one
week
above
that,
so
in
the
day
before
the
week
before
the
week
of
the
ends
in
the
22nd,
I'm
not
sure
why
I'll
move
things
off.
The
19th
for
the
work
session
are
people
out
of
town.
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D
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AB
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Y
X
After
mr
oath
looks
at
the
law
and
it's
and
then
we
have
to
make
it
before
april,
one
bring
it
back
on
march
12
when
you
guys
give
me
more
direction.
I've
I've
got
to
let
that,
but
I've
got
to
let
the
people
know
when
to
expect
the
interviews,
because
they're
all
expecting
them
on
the
26th
in
the
afternoon,
for
all
all
the
letters
and
everything
that's
already
gone
out,
so
I
just
need
to
notify
them
as
soon
as
possible
that
the
interview
times
are
going
to
change.
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AB
A
Z
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statutory
authorization
is
contained
in
gs
143-318.11,
a
five
two
to
discuss
matters,
relation
to
the
relating
to
the
location
or
expansion
of
industries
or
other
businesses
in
the
area
served
by
city
council,
including
agreement
on
a
tentative
list
of
economic
development
incentives
that
may
be
offered
in
negotiations,
provided
that
any
action
authorizing
the
payment
of
economic
development
incentives
will
occur
in
open
session.
Statutory
authorization
is
contained
in
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a4.
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is
contained
in
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a1
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to
prevent
disclosure
of
information
that
is
privileged
and
confidential.
Pursuant
to
the
laws
of
north
carolina
or
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a
public
record
within
the
meaning
of
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general
statutes.
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